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S H O R T H A N D

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The Gridiron Room, Willard Hotel,
Saturday, December 12, 1914.

The Board o f Governors m e t pursuant t o adjournment.

The Chairman: G e n t l e m e n , I have here a telegram from
Wire H. GC» Burmett t o Mr. MeKay. I

will read i t into t h e

record:

"Some banks questioning our legal right t o charge their
customers’ checks against their reserve balance before t h e y
receive t h e checks.

from .Board.

S u g g e s t y o u secure definite ruling

I t occurs ‘to me everyone might b e better

satisfied i f we charged all transit letters the day following thelr transmittal a n d credit a l l deposits t h e d a y follow-=

ing their receipt."
I should a l s o like t o read into t h o record t h e last part
of a telegram addressed t o Mr. Bardwell, f r o m Governor
Kains.

"Hope that a condition will be brought about whereby
bank acceptances farthering commercial transactions will b e
readily bought ané sold."
AS I understand t h e expression b y Governor Kains, h e
would like t o see a policy adopted,

o r some rule adopted,

that would permit a t onee o f the purchase o f bank acceptances b y the federal reserve banks. f p e a k i n g f o r the bank
in New York f would like t o have t h e record clearly s h o w that

that i s our position:

W e would like a 8 soon as possible

to b e authorized t o commence t h e purchase o f banimrs’ acceptances a S contemplated b y the Act-+


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Mr. Wold: M i n n e a p o l i s i s very anxious t o d o likewise.

Mr. Seay:

D i d n o t one o f the circulars f r o m the Board

provide f o r the same thing?
The Chairman:
into t h e record:

M a y I ask that this expression also g o

T h a t t h e Pederal Reserve B a n k o f Chicago

would also like t o have such ruling o r procedure a t once, s o
that they might purchase the bankers' acceptances.
Mr. Rhoades:

W e would like t o d o i t i n Philadelphia.

Mr. MeDougal: i

would like t o inquire whether a n y o f

our banks have embarked i n the matter o f the purchase o f
acceptances?

Mr. Seay: i

can s a y that some i n our district have.

The Chairman: I

think I can throw a little light o n

that f r o m the standpoint o f New York where t h e business h a s
really developed t o some proportion.

T h e r e a r e t w o trust

companies i n New York that are accepting very considcrable
amounts o f drafts covering cargoes coming f r o m South America
to this country, f r o m South American t o Europe, f r o m Europe

toChina, and from India to Europe.
of t h e c o m m e r c i a l p a p e r b r o k e r s

handling bankers’ acceptances, I

I n talking with some

i n N e w York, w h o a r e n o w

gathered that o n e o f the

trust companies alone probably h a d their acceptances e n from
ten t o twelve mililon dollars o f paper that h a d been a e
chased b y the banks o r handled b y the brokers.

O n e o f the

national banks was estimated t o have h a d about t e n million
dollars outstanding, a n d another trust company four o r five
million. I

would n o t b e surprised, judging fromthe general

information I have gathered,

i f the transaction to-day

in bankers' acceptances i n New York would average f r o m two
to three hundred thousand dollars a

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day through t h e brokers.

The rates, w h e n first t h e acceptances appeared i n
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the market a t New York about seven o r eight yeeks ago, were
im n o case below s i x per cent.


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Before I

left N e w York t o

attend this meeting t h e y h a d actually s o l d a t three a n d a
half p e r cent.

Mr. MeDougal:

Quarter;

W e were offered some a t four a n d a

a t least I sew the broker's sheet.

The Chairman:

T h i s matter o f acceptances i s one o f

very great importance t o u s i n New York because o f the large
amount o f foreign commerce t h a t passes through t h e port o f
New York a n d the large number o f banks there that have t o d o
with the handling o f exchange.

I f 1 t would b e o f any inter-

est t o the Federal Reserve Banks, I
the G o v e r n o r s a

memorandum

can arrange t o send t o

o n t h e subject

o f the purchase

of bankers' a c c e p t a n c e s t h a t w e a r e s h o r t l y g o i n g t o p r e p a r e
for s u b m i s s i o n

t o the Federal Reserve Board,

i n the hope that

we will g e t a n early ruling that will permit u s t o buy those
acceptances a n d t o use t h e m a s a means o f earning some part
of our expenses until t h e discounts h e l p u s out.
Mr. MeDougal: I

would b e very glad t o have s u c h infor-

mation, Mr. Strong.
Mr. Bardwell:

W e will b e very glad t o have s u c h a

report i n San Francisco.
Mr. Fancher:

W

e k n o w v e r y little s h o u t i t i n our

district, a n d w e would welcome a n y suggestion o r information
bearing upon it.
Mr. Rhoades:

W e would like t o have that too.

The Ghailrman: I n a s m i c h a s the record o f this meeting
is t o b e considered a
these banks, I

confidential record i n the hands o f

a m a t liberty t o express o n e view that I

have heard f r o m the Federal Reserve Board a s t o what their
attitude will possibly b e i n the matter o f rates applying
to t h e p u r c h a s e

o f this class o f paper

i n t h e o p e n market.

It goes without saying that t h e rate o f discount fixed b y
each b a n k w o u l d n o t a p p l y t o t h e s e transactions.
subsequently b e d e t e r m i n e d w h e t h e r a

I

t mist

u n i f o r m rate, d i f f e r e n t

from t h e d i s c o u n t r a t e , s h a l l b e e s t a b l i s h e d f o r t h e p u r p o s e

of this paper i n the open market,
be p e r m i t t e d

o r whether t h e banks shall

t o b u y s u c h acceptances

a t the best rate that

they c a n i n each individual transaction.

T h e opinion e x -

pressed t o m e was t o the effect that t h e banks s h o u l d e s tabilish a rate which might prevail f o r one day, o r even f o r
a part

o f aday, subject t o thexnview a n d determination o f the

Federal R e s e r v e B o a r d ;

b u t nevertheless a n y paper purchased

by a federal reserve b a n k will b e confined t o the acceptance
of t h o s e f b r m s o r i n s t i t u t i o n s w h i c h h a d b e e n a p p r o v e d f o r

purchase b y the management o f that bank.
each bank would have a
recorded

I

n other words,

list o f obligations w h i c h would b e

i n t h e i n s t i t u t i o n a s a c c e p t a b l e f o r purchase,

and

when the bank was i n the market t o buy acceptances t h e y would
practically take everything t h a t was offered within t h e
_ reasonable limits a t the rate established.

T h a t i s i n fact

licensed b y experience abroad, b u t i n m y opinion,

a t the

outset, I

think i t would b e very unsound p a c t i c e

i n this

country.

I n the first place, these acceptances a r e gathered

together b y commercial paper brokers a n d are offered i n
| lots, a n d they are mixed lots;

t h e y make a

rate i n New York

for the whole lot, which will be higher than the rate at
which y o u w o u l d b e p e r m i t t e d

'of that Lot.


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t o take a n y o n e acceptance o u t

I n a b i l i t y t o discriminate a t once would

always cause t h e bank t o take t h e paper a t the lowest rate.
We h o p e t h a t a l l o f t h a t c a n b e d i s c u s s e d

i n the memorandum

which will b e submitted first t o those w h o attend t h e meeting here--=- t o all federal reserve banks,

i n order that w e

can get a n expression o n i t and submit i t t o the Federal
Reserve Board.
Is there a n y other matter that w e should discuss before
going t o the meeting with the Federal Reserve Board a t t e n

o'clock.

T h e one matter that I recall i s with regard t o

the newspapers.

M r . Curtis i s just n o w preparing a

state-

ment f o r the newspapers bearing u p o n the meeting a s a whole.

what form are
I n just ommofiammmafi the notes which are

Mr, FancheS:

pledged with the federal reserve agent?

W h a t f o r m o f endorse-

ment i s t o b e used?
The Chairman:

W

e have b e e n advised b y o u r counsel

in

New York that n o form o f endorsement f o r the federal reserv ¢

bank is necessary s o long as the prior endorsement makes the
note negotiable,
Mr. Seay:

W

The Chairman:

e h a v e a s s u m e d t h a t i n o u r district.

T h e obligation o f the Federal Reserve

bank is a statutory obligation and does not need t o be repeated o n the back o f notes that a r e pledged.
Mr. Fancher:

E x c e p t where i t i s rendered strictly t o

the order o f the bank.
The Chairman:

E x c e p t where i t i s rendered a s a non-

"negotiable time instrument.

Gentlemen, I think i t i s time that w e adjourn t o the
Treasury Building f o r o u r meeting w i t h the Federal Reserve
Board.

(Whereupon, a t LO o'clock a. m e the Board o f Governors
adjourned t o the Treasury Building f o r the purpose o f holding |

a conference with the Federal Reserve Board.)


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