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FEDERAL RESERVE BANK
O F NEW YORK

Circular No. 8 2 7 1 'I
February 8, 1978 J

AUTOMATIC TRANSFERS OF FUNDS
FROM SAVINGS ACCOUNTS TO CHECKING ACCOUNTS
Revised Proposal To Amend Regulation Q

To All Member Banks, and Others Concerned,
in the Second Federal Reserve District:

Follow ing is the text of a statem ent issued F eb ru ary 2 by the Board of G overnors of the F ederal
R eserve System:
The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System today issued for comment a revised proposal
to permit the automatic transfer of funds from an individual’s savings account to the depositor’s checking
account to cover checks drawn by the depositor or to ensure a minimum balance in the depositor’s check­
ing account.
Comment should be received by the Board by March 20.
The proposal revises an earlier proposal made in March of 1976 in two main respects; namely, the
minimum forfeiture of interest would be the amount earned in the previous 30 days and no minimum
amount for transfer would be required.
The proposed new service would be available only to individuals — not to businesses or governments
— and would be entirely voluntary. Depositors could not be required to enter into automatic transfer
agreements nor could such transfers be made unless previously authorized by the depositor.
The proposal is aimed at increasing the convenience and efficiency of savings accounts and lowering
the cost — both to individual depositors and to the public — of making payments by check. Banks usually
charge depositors a substantial fee when it is necessary to return checks written on accounts with insuffi­
cient funds. Also, the Federal Reserve System incurs additional costs when such checks are presented to
it for clearance because they involve hand processing and multiple handling.
The difference in cost to individual depositors would be the difference between the charge made by
the customer’s bank for a returned check — generally several dollars — and forfeiture of interest, which would
normally be substantially less. The proposed transfer service would be an alternative to plans that protect
depositors from overdrafts by automatic extensions of credit by their bank.
Depositors who entered into automatic transfer agreements with their bank would avoid the embarrass­
ment and cost of having checks “bounce.” Merchants and others to whom such checks are written would
likewise avoid embarrassment and expense.
The proposed new service would be added to two other services previously authorized by the Federal
Reserve to increase banking convenience to the public. These permit customers to withdraw or transfer funds
from savings accounts at member banks by telephoned instructions and authorize member banks to pay bills
for their customers according to a plan preauthorized by the customer.
The proposal announced by the Board today would end a current prohibition in Regulation Q — pay­
ment of interest on deposits — against automatic transfers from savings deposits.
Under the proposal, a member bank and an individual depositor, acting voluntarily, would agree on a
plan authorizing the bank to draw upon the customer’s savings account in the bank to cover checks written,
or to keep funds in the customer’s checking account from falling below a certain level.
The proposal has two features not in the previous proposal:
1 — The minimum forfeiture of interest would he the amount actually earned during the previous 30
days. The earlier proposal would have required forfeiture of 30 days’ interest on the amount transferred from




a savings account to a checking account. This would have resulted in an interest penalty even where no
interest had actually been earned during the 30 days before the funds were transferred.
The Board does not believe that such transfers should result in an interest penalty greater than the
amount of interest actually earned on the funds transferred. Consequently, the rule as now proposed would
require forfeiture of interest amounting to no more than interest actually earned on the amount transferred
during the 30 days before the transfer. This would include interest accrued but not yet paid, or credited
to an account.
If no interest had been earned during that 30 days — where, for example, a bank pays interest only on
funds left with it for at least a quarter — no interest would be forfeited. Further, if the funds had been on
deposit for less than 30 days the interest forfeited would be no more than the amount earned during the time
the funds were on deposit.
Thus, the amount of interest forfeited on funds transferred from a savings account would depend on the
rules of the depositor’s bank. The text of the Board’s proposal provided five examples of how interest for­
feiture could be calculated under different sets of rules and circumstances. These showed interest penalties
on transfers of amounts up to $200 ranging from zero to 84 cents.
The Board requested comment on whether there should be any interest penalty.
2—The revised proposal does not require a minimum amount for transfer. The earlier proposal would
have permitted transfers only of $100 or multiples of $100.
The Board said it anticipated deferring the effective date of the proposed revision of Regulation Q
for 60 days after the date of adoption, and requested comment as to whether this would be sufficient time
for member banks to advertise the new service and make operational adjustments.
The proposed amendment to Regulation Q would not affect existing arrangements under which thrift
institutions agree with their customers to transfer funds automatically, or as otherwise specified by the
customer, to the customer’s checking account at a commercial bank.
P rin ted below is the text of the revised proposal. C om m ents thereon should be subm itted by
M arch 20, and m ay be sent to our C onsum er Affairs and Bank Regulations D epartm ent.
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[Reg. Q]
P A R T 2 1 7 — IN T E R E S T ON D E P O S IT S
(Docket No. R-0027)

Automatic Transfers o f Savings Deposits
AGENCY: Board of Governors of the Federal Re­
serve System.
ACTION:

Proposed rule.

SUMMARY: This proposed rule would permit mem­
ber banks to arrange with their depositors for the
automatic transfer of funds from depositors’ savings
accounts to their demand deposit (checking) accounts
to cover checks drawn by depositors or to replenish
depositors’ checking accounts. Such transfers are
now prohibited by Board regulations. The proposed
transfer service rule is entirely voluntary; member
banks could not require depositors to accept the
service, and automatic transfers could not be made
unless previously authorized by the depositor. The




proposed automatic transfer service would be avail­
able only to individuals and not to business organiza­
tions or governmental units. Comments on the pro­
posal may be submitted until March 20, 1978. The
proposed amendment is intended to increase the
efficiency of the Federal Reserve’s check clearing
operations and provide depositors with added cus­
tomer convenience.
DATE:
1978.

Comments must be received by March 20

ADDRESS: Secretary, Board of Governors of the
Federal Reserve System, Washington, D.C. 20551.
All material submitted should include the Docket
Number R-0027.

FOR FU RTH ER INFO RM ATIO N, CONTACT:
Allen L. Raiken, Associate General Counsel, Legal
Division, Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System, Washington, D.C. 20551, telephone (202)
452-3625.

must be returned because of insufficient funds. The
existence of return items also has a substantial effect
upon the speed and efficiency of the check clearing
operations of the Federal Reserve System. As a result,
the Federal Reserve System incurs a substantial ex­
pense in the handling of returned checks and drafts.
The Board’s proposed amendment is intended to per­
mit an alternative to the existing practice of returning
checks and drafts drawn on insufficient funds. The
Board believes that the proposed amendment repre­
sents a reasonable accommodation that may be offered
by member banks to their depositors in order to re­
duce the likelihood that depositors’ checks will be
returned to the presenting parties because of insuffi­
cient funds in depositors’ checking accounts. It is
anticipated that the proposed service would reduce
the number of checks that are returned through the
check clearing operations of the banking system,
thereby resulting in substantial savings for all parties
concerned.

SUPPLEM ENTARY INFO RM ATIO N: In March,
1976, the Board solicited comments on a proposed
amendment to Regulation Q to permit member banks
to provide their depositors with the automatic transfer
of savings deposits to cover checks drawn by deposi­
tors on their demand deposit (checking) accounts or
to replenish their demand deposit accounts (41 FR
12039). The Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation
proposed a similar amendment to its regulations ap­
plicable to Federally insured banks that are not mem­
bers of the Federal Reserve System.
On April 29, 1976 the Board issued a clarification
of the proposal indicating that the automatic transfer
service would be completely voluntary and that de­
positors could not be required to obtain the service
(41 FR 18523). Similarly, member banks would not
be authorized to transfer a depositor’s funds from a
savings account unless the depositor voluntarily had
entered into an agreement previously with the bank
specifically authorizing the transfer service. This pro­
vision, however, would not affect the ability of a mem­
ber bank to use a depositor’s savings deposit in satis­
faction of a debt where the bank is authorized to do
so under local law.

This proposed amendment would not affect existing
arrangements whereby a thrift institution has agreed
with its customer to transfer funds automatically or
otherwise to the customer’s demand deposit account
at a commercial bank in accordance with a pre­
authorized agreement. Transfers of funds from a
thrift institution to a commercial bank would not be
subject to the proposed minimum interest penalty
forfeiture provision.
In view of the comments received in response to
the Board’s previous automatic transfer proposal, the
Board has modified the proposed amendment and
again requests public comment on the proposed auto­
matic transfer service. Under the proposed amend­
ment, member banks could make the proposed trans­
fer service available only to individuals, and not to
business organizations, governmental units or other
organizations.

The automatic transfer service is intended to in­
crease the efficiency of the Federal Reserve’s check
clearing operations by reducing the number of return
items processed by the System as well as to provide
depositors with the convenience of a deposit transfer
service that would be available in addition to the
telephone and bill payment transfer services that
member banks currently are authorized to offer to de­
positors. This service would provide an alternative to
existing procedures where there are insufficient funds
in depositors’ checking accounts. Generally, if a cus­
tomer’s check is presented to the bank and there are
insufficient funds in the customer’s checking account
the check is returned to the payee with the term “in­
sufficient funds” indicated on the check. As a result,
the bank usually charges a fee to the customer when it
is necessary to return these checks. As an alternative
to returning checks, many banks currently advance
funds to customers in accordance with overdraft loan
agreements. Under such overdraft loan agreements,
depositors usually incur interest charges on the funds
advanced.

The proposed amendment reflects two additional
modifications from the proposal originally announced
by the Board. The proposal does not require a mini­
mum denomination for funds that may be transferred
pursuant to this proposed amendment. As originally
proposed, the amendment would have required that
transfers be made in multiples of no less than $100.
The Board believes that a minimum transfer amount
requirement may unduly penalize depositors that may
incur overdrafts in amounts less than the required
minimum denomination resulting in a transfer from
savings of more than the amount needed to cover the
check or to replenish the account. The Board believes
therefore, that it may be inappropriate to establish
a requirement that could result in a transfer of more
than the amount necessary to cover the check, es­
pecially since membei banks would be required to
impose an interest penalty as described below. No­
thing in the proposal, however, would prohibit a mem­
ber bank from establishing minimum transfer amounts
if they so desired in view of internal bank operational
procedures.

The Board is of the view that the costs incurred by
consumers, banks, merchants, other businessmen, and
the Federal Reserve System, because of the existence
of return items, can be reduced as a result of the pro­
posed automatic transfer amendment. Because of the
special handling procedures required to process cus­
tomer overdrafts, many banks impose a substantial
charge to their customers for checks and drafts that




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The second modification relates to the minimum
amount of interest that must be forfeited by the de­
positor on funds transferred. As originally proposed,
a depositor would have been required to forfeit a
minimum of 30 days’ interest on the funds transferred.
Depositors, therefore, would have incurred an interest
penalty even if no interest actually had been earned
during the previous 30 days on the funds transferred.
The Board believes it is unnecessary to require a
minimum interest penalty that may result in forfeiture
of an amount that is more than the amount of interest
actually earned on the funds transferred during the
previous 30 day period. Consequently, the amend­
ment proposed by the Board would require a for­
feiture of interest in an amount no less than the
amount of interest actually earned during the previous
30 days on the funds that are transferred from savings
to checking. Public comment also is requested on
whether any interest forfeiture should be required.
Interest actually earned during the previous 30 days
would include interest that has been accrued but not
yet paid (credited to the account or paid to the
depositor or other party) as well as interest that had
been paid on the funds transferred.
Member banks would continue to be required to
reserve the right to impose at least a 30-day notice
period on intended withdrawals of savings deposits
as presently required in § 217.1(e) of Regulation Q.
Under the terms of the proposed amendment, if in
accordance with the bank’s usual methods of comput­
ing interest, no interest has been earned on the funds
on deposit during the previous 30 day period, no
interest need be forfeited if funds are transferred
automatically to cover checks. Similarly, if the funds
transferred had been on deposit for less than 30 days,
only the amount of interest earned for the period of
time the funds had been on deposit need be forfeited.
It is recognized that application of this forfeiture re­
quirement may result in forfeiture of varying amounts
of interest based on differences in bank rules regarding
computing and calculating interest. For example, a
bank’s use of the last-in, first-out method in determin­
ing which deposits are being transferred could alter
the minimum penalty amount that must be imposed.
The following are examples of how the required
penalty provision may be applied:

required is $0.21, which represents 15 days’ interest
earned on the funds transferred.
Example 3.
Same facts as Example 1 except bank computes
interest quarterly, and no interest is paid on funds
withdrawn prior to the end of a calendar quarter.
No interest forfeiture is required since under the
bank’s rules no interest was actually earned during
the previous 30 days on the funds transferred.
Example 4.
Bank pays interest at an annual rate of 5 per cent
from day of deposit to day of withdrawal and uses
the last-in, first-out method in computing interest.
The depositor deposits $500 into the savings account
on January 1 and deposits an additional $100 on
February 1. Bank transfers $200 from the depositor’s
savings account to his checking account to cover over­
drafts on February 15. The minimum interest for­
feiture required is $0.63 which is determined as follows:
Since the $100 deposit of February 1 had only been
on deposit for 15 days, the depositor need only forfeit
a minimum of $0.21, which represents the actual inter­
est earned on the $100 during the 15 day period it
remained on deposit. The depositor is required to
forfeit at least $0.42 on the remaining $100 that has
been transferred. This amount represents 30 days’
interest earned on those funds.
Example 5.
Same facts as Example 4. However, bank uses
first-in, first-out method in computing interest. Under
those circumstances, the depositor is required to for­
feit minimum interest of $0.84, which is computed as
follows: Since the funds transferred are deemed to
be those that were deposited first, the depositor
actually earned interest on the $200 transferred for
the entire 30 days prior to the date of transfer. Con­
sequently, the depositor is required to forfeit a mini­
mum of $0.84, which represents the actual interest
earned on the funds transferred during the previous
30 day period.
Member banks would be required to maintain data
on fund transfers via the automatic transfer service
in a manner that will facilitate data collection by the
Board.

Example 1.
Bank pays interest on savings deposits at an annual
rate of 5 per cent from day of deposit to day of with­
drawal. Interest is credited quarterly. Depositor es­
tablishes a new savings account and deposits $500
on January 1. On February 28, bank transfers $100
from savings to demand to cover depositor’s overdraft.
The minimum interest forfeiture required is $0.42,
which represents 30 days’ interest earned on the funds
transferred.

To aid in the consideration of this matter by the
Board, interested persons are invited to submit rele­
vant data, views, or comments. Any such material
should be submitted in writing to the Secretary,
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System,
Washington, D.C. 20551, to be received by March 20,
1978. All material submitted should include the
Docket Number R-0027. Such material will be made
available for inspection and copying upon request ex­
cept as provided in section 261.6(a) of the Board’s
Rules Regarding Availability of Information (12 CFR
§ 261.6(a)).

Example 2.
Same facts as Example 1 except bank transfers $100
on January 15 to cover overdraft. Minimum forfeiture

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If, after consideration of the comments received, the
Board adopts the proposed amendment, it is antici­
pated that it would not become effective for a period
of at least 60 days following adoption. Public com­
ment is requested on whether a 60 day deferred effec­
tive date is sufficient to provide member banks with
time to implement operational and marketing pro­
cedures necessary to offer the service to depositors.

(2)
***However, withdrawals may be permitted by
a member bank to be made automatically from a sav­
ings deposit that consists of funds deposited to the
credit of and in which the entire beneficial interest is
held by one or more individuals through payment to
the bank itself or through transfer of credit to a
demand or other deposit account of the same deposi­
tor pursuant to an agreement between a member bank
and its depositor that authorizes such payments or
transfers in order to cover checks or drafts drawn by
the depositor upon the bank; provided, the depositor
shall forfeit an amount no less than the amount of
interest actually earned during the previous 30 days
on the funds withdrawn and transferred from a savings
deposit in the manner described. In accordance with
§ 217.1(e)(2) of this Part, a member bank must re­
serve the right to require the depositor to give notice
in writing of an intended withdrawal not less than
30 days before such withdrawal is made and may not
require a depositor to enter into an agreement pro­
viding for such automatic transfer of savings deposits.

Pursuant to its authority under § 19 of the Federal
Reserve Act (12 U.S.C. §§461, 371b), the Board of
Governors proposes to amend § 217.5(c) of Regula­
tion Q (12 CFR 217.5(c)) as follows:
SECTION 217.5 — WITHDRAWAL OF
SAVINGS DEPOSITS
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