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MEMORANDUM OF DISCUSSION
A meeting of the Federal Open Market Committee was held
on Tuesday, October 2, 1973, at 11:00 a.m. at the call of
Mr. Mitchell, acting as Chairman in the absence of Chairman Burns
and Vice Chairman Hayes.

The latter, who had returned to the

country in the afternoon of October 1, served as Acting Chairman
during the meeting.

This was a telephone conference meeting,

and each individual was in Washington, D. C.,

except as otherwise

indicated in parentheses in the following list of those participating

PARTICIPATING:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Hayes, Acting Chairman
Balles
Brimmer
Bucher
Daane
Francis
Holland
Mayo
Mitchell

Mr. Morris

(New York)
(San Francis

(St. Louis)
(Chicago)
(Boston)

Mr. Sheehan
Mr. Broida, Secretary
Messrs. Altmann and Bernard,
Assistant Secretaries
Mr. O'Connell, General Counsel
Mr. Partee, Senior Economist
Mr. Axilrod, Economist (Domestic Finance
Messrs. Andersen (St. Louis), Scheld

(Chicago), and Sims (San Francisco)
Associate Economists
Mr. Holmes, Manager, System Open
(New York)
Market Account
Mr. Coombs, Special Manager, System
(New York)
Open Market Account
Mr. Sternlight, Deputy Manager,
System Open Market Account
(New York)

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Mr. Melnicoff, Deputy Executive Director,
Board of Governors
Mr. Feldberg, Secretary to the Board
of Governors
Mr. Coyne, Assistant to the Board
of Governors
Messrs. Keir and Pierce, Advisers,
Division of Research and Statistics,
Board of Governors
Mr. Gemmill; Adviser, Division of
International Finance, Board of
Governors
Mr. Struble, Senior Economist, Division
of Research and Statistics, Board
of Governors
Miss Pruitt, Economist, Office of the
Secretary, Board of Governors
Mrs. Ferrell, Open Market Secretariat
Assistant, Office of the Secretary,
Board of Governors
Mr. Baughman, First Vice President,
(Chicago)
Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago
Mr. Anderson, Assistant Vice President,
(Boston)
Federal Reserve Bank of Boston

Vice Chairman Hayes noted that this meeting had been
called for the purpose of considering supplementary instructions
to the System Account Manager in light of certain significant
inconsistencies that had developed among various elements of the
instructions the Committee had agreed upon at its meeting on

September 18.
Secretary's Note: On Monday, October 1,
1973, the Secretary had transmitted the
following message to members of the
Committee (to President-members by
telegram):

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"As you know, the Committee agreed at September 18
meeting that, to facilitate attainment of specifications
for aggregates decided upon, the Desk (beginning in the

following week) should initially aim at reserve condi
tions consistent with a Federal funds rate of about
10-1/2 per cent. However, in view of sharp market rally
that began shortly after Committee meeting, and against
background of instruction in policy directive to take
account of domestic financial market developments, Desk
did not wish to be over-aggressive in pursuit of this
objective and average Federal funds rate has remained
around 10-3/4 to 10-7/8 per cent.
"Since the Committee meeting short-term market interest
rates (other than funds rate) have dropped about 1 to
1-3/4 percentage points and long-term market rates have
continued to decline. At the same time, the monetary
aggregates have weakened and all of the key aggregates
are now projected to be below the September-October
ranges of tolerance adopted by the Committee.
"System Account Manager has notified Acting Chairman
Mitchell that significant inconsistencies have developed
among various elements of Committee's instructions, and
the Acting Chairman has called a telephone conference
meeting of the Committee for 11:00 a.m. EDT, October 2,
1973, to consider supplementary instructions.
"Among the possible alternatives are the following:
"1. So long as market conditions do not become
disorderly and aggregates remain at or below lower ends
of ranges adopted, to provide reserves at a rate con
sidered likely to be consistent with a progressive
reduction of the funds rate within the 9-3/4 to 10-3/4
per cent range adopted on September 18.
"2. To undertake reserve supplying operations con
sistent with an average Federal funds rate of about 10-1/2
per cent until instructed otherwise, unless such action
threatens to reinvigorate the recent sharp market rally.
"3. To undertake no reserve supplying actions that
would tend to confirm inferences by market participants
that the sharply lower levels of short- and long-term
rates are an objective of policy, even if one consequence
is a Federal funds rate averaging at or slightly above
the 10-3/4 per cent level. If this third alternative
is chosen, upper end of funds rate range of tolerance
might be raised to 11 per cent."

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Vice Chairman Hayes suggested that the meeting begin
with a report from the Manager on System operations and market
developments since the September 18 meeting of the Committee.
Mr. Holmes presented the following statement:

Over the period since the Committee last met, short
term interest rates have plummetted--the 3-month bill
rate by over 175 basis points--as the sensitive financial
markets became convinced that the System had relaxed its
policy of restraint a bit and that the peak of interest
rates in all maturity areas had been passed. At the same
time, growth rates in the monetary aggregates and RPD's
appear to be below the lower end of the ranges of tolerance
specified by the Committee at the meeting.
Following the meeting, in accordance with the
Committee's basic policy decision, the Desk planned to
become somewhat less restrictive in the supply of reserves,
anticipating that the Federal funds rate would edge off to
about 10-1/2 per cent last week. As you know, the funds
rate has continued, on average, to run above the desired
level, despite a rather substantial supply of reserves
to the banking system. Apart from the usual technical
reasons that sometimes make it difficult to control the
Federal funds rate precisely--i.e., commercial bank
problems in managing their reserve accounts, a $600
million shortfall in float over the past weekend, and a
$1.3 billion shortfall from reserve projections
yesterday--banks appear to be placing greater emphasis
on Federal funds purchases rather than on alternative
sources of funds. Once the decline in short rates got
under way, banks became reluctant to commit themselves
to relatively high rates on even 90-day CD's and this
tended to increase rate pressure on the overnight Federal
funds market.
The extremely sensitive state of market expectations
is illustrated, I believe, by the sharp decline in other
market rates despite the fact that the weekly average
Federal funds rate hit a record high last week, primarily
reflecting an extremely tight funds market last Wednesday.
As usual, the market may have overreacted, and it would
not be surprising to see some short rates back up slightly
even if we get the Federal funds rate down to the

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10-1/2 per cent level.

Pushing persistently down towards

the lower end of the 9-3/4 to 10-3/4 per cent range of

tolerance would, I believe, set off another wave of market
speculation and a renewed decline in the general level

of interest rates.
This morning we have had a fair backup in short
term rates, with the 3-month Treasury bill quoted at
7.40 per cent, compared with the 7.15 per cent established
in yesterday's auction. Yesterday we supplied the market
with $1.5 billion in reserves only to see $1.3 billion
of that amount offset by a shortfall from yesterday's
reserve projections. Today the Federal funds rate opened
at 10-3/4 per cent--higher than we have been seekingbut it has been tending to ease off slightly. We had
been prepared to make 2-day RP's, but have not taken any
action as yet since there is the possibility that the
rate may come down on its own. We are buying about $50
million of Treasury bills directly from foreign accounts.
Mr. Daane noted that the second of the three alternatives
described in the Secretary's wire called for reserve-supplying
operations consistent with a 10-1/2 per cent funds rate unless
such operations threatened to reinvigorate the recent sharp
market rally.

He asked how the Manager appraised the chances

of achieving a 10-1/2 per cent funds rate without reinvigorating
the rally.
Mr. Holmes expressed the view that the chances were good.
There had been some backup in short-term rates this morning, and
he suspected that market rates would be generally stable at
about their prevailing levels if the reduction in the funds
rate could be carried out smoothly, without overshooting, to
a level below 10-1/2 per cent.

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Mr. Mayo commented that, in view of the discussion at
the September Committee meeting, he had expected the Desk to
undertake some probing action, at least by not resisting any
tendencies for the Federal funds rate to decline to 10-1/2

per cent.

He asked whether the difficulty arose because the

rate had not shown any tendency to fall.
Mr. Holmes replied that the Desk had not awaited such
tendencies; it had tried to encourage the desired decline, but
without success.

Yesterday, for example, the System had supplied

$1.5 billion in reserves in an effort to move the funds rate
down from its prevailing level of 10-7/8 per cent, but the
System's action had been almost fully offset by a shortfall in

float and an unexpectedly high level of the Treasury balance.
Mr. Mitchell noted that the apparent preference of
banks for raising funds in the Federal funds market rather than
through sales of CD's seemed to be a major contributor to upward
pressure on the funds rate.

He asked how long such a preference

might be expected to continue.
Mr. Holmes said he thought it would be a short-run
phenomenon, lasting perhaps another week or so.
Mr. Francis commented that the recent increase in mar
ginal reserve requirements on large-denomination CD's probably
had also tended to encourage banks to substitute Federal funds
for CD's.

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In reply to a question from Mr. Morris, Mr. Holmes
said he believed the market had already discounted a decline in
the funds rate to 10-1/2 per cent.

As he had indicated earlier,

he suspected that such a funds rate would prove consistent with
a level of bill rates above their recent lows.
Mr. Balles asked Mr. Holmes to elaborate on his view
that a decline in the funds rate to 9-3/4 per cent--that is,
to the lower end or the range specified by the Committee at

its last meeting--would set off a new wave of speculation and
a renewed general decline in interest rates.
Mr. Holmes noted that the sharp downward adjustment in
short-term rates since the last Committee meeting had occurred
without any accompanying reduction in the Federal funds rate,
so market participants were still uncertain about the degree of
easing in System policy.

In his judgment, a pronounced decline

in the Federal funds rate now would be interpreted by the market
as a strong indication that monetary restraint was being relaxed.
That would affect market rates generally, and it might result
in a greater reduction in long-term rates than had occurred
during the recent rally.
Vice Chairman Hayes then asked Mr. Axilrod to comment
on the implications of recent interest rate developments for
the behavior of the monetary aggregates.

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Mr. Axilrod observed that the recent sharp drop in
short-term interest rates could be described as a market easing,
even though the Federal funds rate had remained at record
levels.

Since analysis suggested that the growth rate of

money responded to changes in short-term rates in general and
not just to changes in the Federal funds rate, the question
naturally arose as to whether the decline which had occurred
in short-term rates should not lead the staff to raise its
projections of the monetary aggregates.

By way of background,

he might note that, as indicated in the blue book prepared for
the September meeting, a funds rate of about 10-3/4 per cent
was likely to be consistent with growth in M 1 at an annual
rate of about 3 per cent in the 6-month period covering the
fourth quarter of 1973 and the first quarter of 1974.

In

September the Committee adopted a target of 4-1/2 per cent for
the growth rate in M 1 over that period, recognizing that such
growth was likely to be consistent with a decline in interest
rates.
It was the consensus of the staff, Mr. Axilrod continued,
that if the funds rate remained around 10-3/4 per cent over the
next few months

short-term market rates would rebound, and

apparently that adjustment had begun today.

However, the staff

would not expect rates to snap back all the way to their previous

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peaks; and even if they did, there would have been an interim
period of easing.

According to the various econometric models

and judgmental analyses, the effect of the interim easing on
growth in the monetary aggregates would be relatively minor,
adding perhaps one-half of a percentage point to the annual
growth rate over the 6-month period.

Thus, taking into account

both the drop in short-term market rates that had occurred and
the expectation of some back-up, the staff would expect a
continuation of current money market conditions to be associated
with a longer-run growth rate of M 1 on the order of 3-1/2 per
cent, which would still be well below the Committee's 4-1/2
per cent target.

No significant effect would be expected on the

growth rates of the aggregates in the near term--that is, on
the rates over the September-October period.
Vice Chairman Hayes asked Mr. Partee to comment on the
relation to the economic outlook of the recent decline in
interest rates.
when he
Mr. Partee said it occurred to an economist
rates--parti
observed a large and unexpected drop in interest
the aggregates--that
cularly when accompanied by low growth in
of the economy.
that might be indicating something about the state
saw nothing that would
After reviewing the evidence, however, he
as previously
suggest a major change in the staff outlook

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presented to the Committee.

Plant and equipment expenditures and

net exports should be strong for quite some time to come; housing
and consumer spending--especially for durables--were expected
to be soft; and inventory investment should strengthen, at least
for a time, as stocks were rebuilt.

Thus, it seemed quite likely

to him that interest rates would back up later in the fall, and
that the aggregates would begin to grow more vigorously again in
keeping with the nominal GNP.
At the same time, Mr. Partee continued, it was important
to recognize that real growth in the economy had slowed and that
the outlook was for continued slow growth.

Recognition of that

fact had undoubtedly spurred the recent market rally, and at
this time a somewhat easier monetary stance than was appropriate
during the spring and summer might be called for.

Given the

clear prospect that excessive economic expansion was now in the
past, it was difficult to defend a policy which continued to
impose maximum restraint on both interest rates and monetary
aggregates.
Therefore, Mr. Partee said, it would seem appropriate
to him to back off a bit from the System's extremely tight mone
tary posture, as the Committee had decided at the last meeting.
He would recommend a move to reduce the funds rate to the 10-1/2
per cent area, but he would avoid going appreciably below that
level until it was possible to review the economic situation in

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depth and reassess the outlook for the aggregates.

In light of

the speculative attitude about the future course of System policy
and interest rates which had underlain the recent rally in the
securities markets, it would be preferable to avoid the appearance
of any marked easing in policy.

He would recommend a stance

consistent with alternative 2 at this juncture.
Mr. Hayes asked whether the evident slowdown in real
economic growth was not primarily due to capacity constraints
and shortages rather than to a slackening in demand.
In response, Mr. Partee observed that the picture was
mixed.

Supply constraints were very real in many basic industries

and some fabricating industries, but at the same time there were
some indications of slackening demand.

Construction was slowing,

manufacturing employment had shown very little growth in recent
months, and average weekly hours had declined somewhat.

While

it was obvious that growth in real GNP could not have continued
at anything like the 8 per cent rate of the first quarter, he did
not see any indication of supply pressures developing that would
suppress real growth markedly below the 4 per cent rate or so that
the economy had recently been experiencing.

All available evi

dence tended to support the view that the slowing reflected
mainly a moderation of demands.
Mr. Hayes expressed concern about the outlook for prices and
asked Mr. Partee if he also considered that outlook highly unfavorable.

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Mr. Partee responded affirmatively.

While food prices

might come down somewhat or stabilize following their extraordinary

increase, he thought that the pace of advance in wage rates would
increase in late 1973 and in 1974, and that productivity growth
would be small.

As a consequence, he expected considerable

increases in unit labor costs.
Mr. Morris remarked that he found it hard to reconcile
Mr. Partee's view that the Committee had made the right decision
at its last meeting with his opinion that a decline of more than
one-quarter of a point in the funds rate could undo the monetary
restraint already put in train.
In response, Mr. Partee said he had not meant to imply
that he concurred in all aspects of the Committee's decision at
its last meeting--at which he had not been present--but only that
he agreed that the economy was now at the point where there could
be a little easing.

The precise dimension of that easing would

have to be determined in forthcoming meetings of the Committee.
He was not greatly concerned about temporarily low growth rates
for the monetary aggregates because they were the natural conse
quence of actions the Committee had taken.

If very low growth

rates persisted, however, it would be necessary to become in
creasingly active to bring about reasonable growth again.

Growth

rates in the aggregates were highly variable from month to month,
and he would not be surprised if the kind of spurt in M1 that had
often occurred in the past were to develop some time this fall.

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Mr. Daane remarked that it would be useful to have the
views of the Special Manager on the international implications
of recent and prospective interest rate developments in the
United States.
In response, Mr. Coombs said the recent decline of
domestic short-term rates had received a great deal of attention
abroad, and foreign observers apparently had concluded that the
System had either taken the first step toward monetary ease or
was on the verge of doing so.

Understandably, exchange market

participants were worried about the possibility of a pronounced
change in stance which would cause interest rate differentials
to widen and could seriously dampen what they hoped was a develop
ing recovery of the dollar.

In his judgment, there might already

have been marginal effects of that kind.
Mr. Brimmer asked what the effect would be on the Federal
funds rate and on short-term rates generally if the Manager were
instructed to resist any tendency for the funds rate to rise but
otherwise to remain passive rather than to probe actively in an
effort to move the rate down into the neighborhood of 10-1/2 per
cent over the next week or two.
In reply, Mr. Holmes said the reserve outlook suggested
that the funds rate would be under upward pressure, particularly
over the next week.

Accordingly, given such an instruction the

Desk probably would be working to keep the rate at the current
10-3/4 or 10-7/8 per cent level.

Maintaining the funds rate

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at that level probably would reinforce the tendency for other
short-term rates to back up a bit, but not necessarily to their
previous peaks.
Mr. Brimmer then asked about the probability of an
overshoot below the 10-1/2 per cent if the Desk moved actively
to reduce the funds rate to that level in the immediate future.
Mr. Holmes estimated that the chances of overshooting
were 50-50.

If current reserve projections proved correct, the

Desk would be supplying reserves next week, and he suspected
that the 10-1/2 per cent level could be reached without too
much difficulty.

He added that recent reserve-supplying oper

ations had been large but not overly aggressive.
Mr. Balles asked about the latest projections of M
for October and November.
In reply Mr. Axilrod said that, on the basis of firm
figures through September 19 and partial figures through
September 26, it appeared that M1 would decline at a 2.7 per
cent annual rate in September.

M1 was now expected to rise

in October at a rate of about 1-1/2 per cent.

Those figures

would imply a decline at an annual rate of slightly more than
1/2 per cent for the 2-month period, below the 0 to 4 per cent
range of tolerance the Committee had specified for that period.
The staff expected M1 to increase modestly in both November and

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December

and to grow over the fourth quarter as a whole at an

annual rate of about 2-1/2 per cent, or perhaps a shade higher.
These projections were based on an assumption that the Federal
funds rate would remain at about its current level.
In reply to a question by Mr. Balles, Mr. Axilrod said
that third-quarter growth in M1 was now estimated at a 0.3 per
cent annual rate, measured from the June to the September level,
and at a 5 per cent rate, measured from the average level of the
second quarter to that of the third quarter.
Vice Chairman Hayes noted that while he had been abroad
during the past few weeks

he had had conversations with bankers,

businessmen, and newspapermen, both American and foreign,
which tended to confirm the view Mr. Coombs had expressed
earlier.

In particular, the recent drop in short-term rates-

and to some extent in long-term rates--seemed to dominate their
thinking about U.S. monetary policy.

Generally speaking, they

believed that the System had embarked or was about to embark
on a major change in policy.

He questioned whether it was

desirable for that impression to prevail at a time when infla
tion still appeared to be the most critical economic problem,
and he would be reluctant to act in such a way as to confirm
that view.

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The Vice Chairman then called for comments on the appro
priate course for policy at this point, beginning with Mr. Mitchell.
Mr. Mitchell noted that the existence of inconsistencies
in the Committee's instructions had been apparent for several days.
He had considered the desirability of having a meeting of the
Committee in Washington, but after discussing the matter with
other Board members he had concluded that it would be best to deal
with the immediate problem by this telephone conference.

A

decision could be made later, in light of the developments over
the next several days, as to whether the Committee should hold
another special meeting next week or wait until the regularly
scheduled meeting on October 16.
Mr. Mitchell added that late yesterday, at about the time
the message calling this meeting was dispatched, he talked by
telephone with Chairman Burns, who was in South Africa.

Messrs.

Partee and Axilrod, who also participated in the conversation,
provided summary reports on the economic and financial situation
and he (Mr. Mitchell) read the text of the message being sent to
the Committee.

After a rather extended discussion, Chairman Burns

expressed the opinion that the second of the three alternatives
described in the message offered the most satisfactory solution
to the problem at the moment and would not prejudice decisions to
be taken by the Committee in the future.

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Mr. Mitchell remarked that he also favored alternative 2.
He expected that there would be a diversity of views today, and he
thought it might be well for the members to allow for the possi
bility that another meeting would be held next week.
Mr.

Morris said he preferred alternative 1 which, in his

view, was consistent with the instructions the Committee had
agreed upon at its September 18 meeting.

He thought that current

market expectations were based on a belief, reinforced by state
ments of the Chairman and other System officials, that the Federal
Reserve would avoid fostering financial conditions that would
produce a recession in 1974.

Market participants, observing the

recent contraction of M 1 , had concluded that the System would supply
more reserves and thus put downward pressure on the Federal funds
rate.

He believed that the Committee should not destroy that

expectation, and he saw nothing to be gained by waiting a week
or two before permitting the funds rate to decline.

As for the

possible impact of a lower funds rate on the balance of payments,
he felt that it would be short-sighted to focus on immediate
effects only.

To keep short-term interest rates from declining

now would be to generate conditions that would require a much
greater decline in early 1974, and consequently more serious
balance of payments problems at that time.

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Mr. Balles agreed with Mr. Morris that the Committee
should not attempt to offset the effects of current market
expectations.

He thought that, among other things, market

participants were discounting a slowdown in real economic growth
of the kind projected by the Board staff and generally antici
pated in business and financial circles.

If the System tried

to resist rate declines induced by market expectations, it was
quite likely to undershoot its longer-run targets for the
monetary aggregates and to incur some risk of turning an
economic slowdown into an actual recession.

For such reasons,

as well as those expressed by Mr. Morris, he favored alter
native 1.
Mr. Mayo said that while he agreed in principle with
Messrs. Morris and Balles, he personally did not consider
alternatives 1 and 2 to be mutually exclusive.

The Committee

could instruct the Manager to seek the 10-1/2 per cent funds rate
mentioned in alternative 2 over the next 3 or 4 days, and plan
on reducing the target to 10-1/4 per cent in the following week
unless circumstances changed.

In effect, then, alternative 2

would serve as specific guidance for the short run within the
general philosophy underlying alternative 1.

He would not be

deeply disturbed if the funds rate turned out to be 10-1/4

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rather than 10-1/2 per cent this week.

At the same time, he would

not want the Manager to feel that he had to reduce the rate imme
diately to 9-3/4 per cent simply because the Committee had decided
to seek somewhat easier market conditions.
Mr. Daane said he had heard nothing this morning to sug
gest significant changes in prior views on the economic outlook,
the seriousness of the inflation problem, or the international
situation.

Market developments since the previous meeting had

served to bear out his belief that expectational factors were of
particular importance at this time.

For that reason he would be

concerned about the possible consequences even of alternative 2,
since overt actions to reduce the funds rate to 10-1/2 per cent
could be interpreted by the market and the world at large as an
easing of policy.

While he could accept alternative 2, he would

be happier if it were modified to call for passive acceptance of
any tendency for the funds rate to decline to 10-1/2 per cent
rather than for overt actions to that end.
Mr. Daane offered two further observations.

First, just

as the Committee had been accused in the past of money market
myopia, there was now a tendency within its ranks towards myopia
with respect to short-run movements in the monetary aggregates.
He did not believe there would be any significant difference in

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the growth rates of the aggregates if the funds rate during the
next week or two were 10-1/2 rather than 10-5/8 or 10-3/4 per
cent.

Secondly, Mr. Daane continued, he felt that the Committee
could not ignore international considerations at this time.

He

agreed with the Special Manager's view that widening interest
rate differentials might pose a threat to the incipient recovery
of the dollar, and during his recent trip abroad he had encountered
reactions to the recent changes in domestic interest rates similar
to those Mr. Hayes had described.

In contrast to Mr. Morris, he

believed that the adverse effects of domestic interest rate
declines on the U.S. balance of payments would be much smaller
in early 1974 than now because the U.S. payments position was
likely to be much stronger then.

At present, when the position

of the dollar in foreign exchange markets was still far from
secure and interest rates abroad were under upward pressure, a
decline in domestic rates would be particularly undesirable.
In his view international considerations alone offered grounds
for avoiding overt easing of money market conditions.
Mr. Brimmer observed that the Committee's task today
was to resolve the inconsistencies that had developed in the
instructions it had issued at its September 18 meeting.

Although

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he had not been present at that meeting, he understood that the
Committee had sought to achieve only a slight easing in interest
rates and had not intended to make a basic change in the stance
of monetary policy.

He felt that the wisdom of avoiding an

appreciable change in policy at this time had been confirmed by
the evidence on economic and financial conditions presented by
the staff this morning.
As he interpreted the present situation, Mr. Brimmer
continued, market expectations were outrunning the Committee's
intentions.

In his judgment, the Committee could implement its

September decision in an orderly fashion by adopting alternative
2 today.

Although he was inclined toward the approach Mr. Daane

had suggested, he thought the need to supply reserves noted by
the Manager would make it impractical for the Desk to adopt a
passive stance at this time.
Mr. Brimmer said he would want the Desk to exercise a
good deal of caution in moving toward a Federal funds rate of 10-1/2
per cent.

He would not want the funds rate to fall substantially

below 10-1/2 per cent over the next week or two because he feared
that the cumulative consequences of rate declines could undermine
the monetary restraint in train.

He agreed that the Committee

should give some weight to balance of payments considerations at
this time, as it did customarily.

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In sum, Mr. Brimmer said, he favored adopting alternative 2
as a short-run measure.
in the near future,

The Committee could review its decision

giving more weight to the growth of the aggre

gates if that appeared desirable.
Mr.

Sheehan remarked that in

its

discussion today the

members had been focusing on the Federal funds rate and not giving
the monetary aggregates the kind of attention anticipated under
the experiment the Committee had launched in February 1972.
According to the latest staff estimates, the September-October
growth rates for all

of the aggregates were below the ranges

the Committee had agreed upon at its

September meeting.

M was

showing virtually no growth over the third quarter and--accepting
current projections for November and December--it would expand at
only about a 1-1/2 per cent rate over the second half of 1973.
If such a low growth rate persisted for long it might well lead
to a recession.
Mr. Sheehan observed that at its September meeting the
Committee had not decided to maintain the funds rate at 10-1/2
per cent for the following 4 weeks.

According to his recollection,

the Committee had decided (1) that the Desk should avoid probing
actions during the first few days following the meeting;

(2) that

it should aim for a Federal funds rate of 10-1/2 per cent in the
following week; and

(3) that it should make subsequent operating

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decisions according to the procedures in effect for the past
18 months--namely, permitting the funds rate to vary within a
specified range of tolerance while attempting to achieve
growth rates for the aggregates within ranges specified for
them.
Mr. Sheehan said he favored alternative 1. The
adoption of that alternative would not necessarily mean that
the Desk would have to press the funds rate down to the lower
limit of the 9-3/4 to 10-3/4 per cent range the Committee had
set on September 18; it could be consistent with a funds rate
at 10-1/4 per cent, the midpoint of the range.

Such an outcome

would be quite satisfactory to him.
In a concluding observation, Mr. Sheehan said a de
cision to permit some easing in money market conditions should
not be equated with a decision to completely reverse the course
of policy.

At the September meeting the Committee had agreed

to back off slightly from a very tight posture, not to move
to so easy a posture as to stimulate inflationary forces.
Mr. Bucher said he would associate himself with the
views expressed by Messrs. Sheehan, Morris, and Balles.

While

he agreed with Mr. Mayo that alternatives 1 and 2 were not
mutually exclusive, he would be concerned about adopting
alternative 2 because of the possibility that the Committee

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would not be prepared to take the next step and let the funds
rate decline further if other conditions suggested that that
was desirable.

Accordingly, he supported alternative 1.

Mr. Bucher observed that he wanted to continue giving
the monetary aggregates the weight they had been receiving for
some time.

Money market rates had been permitted to increase

when the Committee was concerned about excessive growth in the
aggregates, and while he had occasionally resisted specific
decisions of that kind, he saw no reason for not pursuing a
generally symmetrical policy and permitting interest rates to
decline when the aggregate growth rates were obviously too low.
The degree of monetary restraint now in place was considerable,
and he was concerned about the possible effects of that restraint
on the economy next year.

Finally, he was not greatly concerned

about possible market reactions; as he had indicated at the
September meeting, he would not want to permit the market, in
effect, to tell the Committee how to manage monetary policy.
Mr. Holland said he agreed that some gradual movement
toward a less restrictive monetary policy would be prudent at
this time, in view of the evidence of a transition in the economy
and of slowing in all of the key aggregates--including M1, M2,
M3, and the bank credit proxy.

Such a move would be desirable

not only to deal with the immediate problem but also to estab
lish a better policy stance for the somewhat longer run.

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While he wanted to get the aggregates growing again,

Mr. Holland continued, he was aware that their growth rates
responded not just to the Federal funds rate but to the whole
family of money market rates that influenced the behavior of
banks and their customers.

The Committee had been using the

funds rate as a surrogate for that larger family, and it was
necessary to avoid "Federal funds myopia" at times when the
changes in that rate differed from those of other money market
rates.

In his judgment, other money market rates were now

moving enough to begin to generate growth in the aggregates,
given the usual time lags, and he was reasonably satisfied with
the situation.

However, it was important to avoid a sharp

change in money market conditions that would reverse the recent
rally and wipe out most of the declines in rates.

That would be

counterproductive not only in terms of expectations but also
from the point of view of the desirable posture for policy
over coming months.
Against that background of thinking, Mr. Holland
remarked, he could support alternative 2 today.

He would

add, however, that if money market rates other than the funds
rate were to back up substantially in the period before the
meeting scheduled for October 16, he would hope the members
would consult again--by telegram, in a telephone conference,

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or in a Washington meeting--about the desirability of permitting
the funds rate to decline below 10-1/2 per cent, in order to
preserve the spirit of the policy course decided upon at the
September 18 meeting.
Mr. Francis associated himself with those who had
expressed support for alternative 1.

He remarked that the

Committee found itself now, at the half-way point between the
September 18 and October 16 meetings, in a situation where the
growth rates in the monetary aggregates were below, and the
Federal funds rate was above, the ranges agreed upon at the
September meeting.

It seemed to him that the appropriate

course was to supply sufficient reserves to get the aggregate
growth rates back within the target ranges.

He was not con

cerned about the effect on the funds rate.
Vice Chairman Hayes stated that his own position was
similar to that of Messrs. Daane and Brimmer.

He felt that

it would be dangerous to confirm the widespread market ex
pectations of a System move to a substantially easier position.
He agreed with Mr. Holland that the Committee should take into
account the substantial drop in the general level of interest
rates that had already occurred and the implications those

rate declines had for the future behavior of the aggregates.
He gathered from Mr. Holmes' comments that while there might

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be some backup in rates, it was unlikely that they would return
to their peak levels.

He would support alternative 2, although

his philosophical bent inclined him toward alternative 3.
Vice Chairman Hayes then remarked that the differences
of view among the Committee members were more pronounced today
than usual.

It seemed to him that a slight majority favored

alternative 2.
After some further discussion, it was suggested that the
members be polled on their preferences.

The poll indicated

that six members (Vice Chairman Hayes and Messrs. Daane, Holland,
Mayo, Mitchell, and Brimmer) favored alternative 2 and five
members (Messrs. Balles, Bucher, Francis, Morris, and Sheehan)
favored alternative 1.

In expressing their preference for

alternative 2, Messrs. Holland, Mayo, and Mitchell indicated
that they intended the instruction contained in that alter
native to apply only for the next several days.
Vice Chairman Hayes remarked that it was always under
stood that the Committee would consult about open market opera
tions outside of regularly scheduled meetings if circumstances
so required.

It was likely that another telephone conference,

or perhaps a meeting in Washington, would be called for early
next week, if a number of members believed then that further
consultation was desirable.

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Mr. Mitchell remarked that more evidence would be avail
able later this week on the behavior of the market and on growth
rates in the aggregates.

A final decision regarding the need

for further consultation might be deferred until that evidence
was in hand.

It also would be desirable to review the question

with Chairman Burns, who was expected to arrive in Washington
over the weekend.
A discussion then ensued of the way in which today's
meeting would be reflected in the FOMC policy record.

In the

course of the discussion Mr. Daane noted that more general

deliberations on the manner in which the Committee's decisions
should be recorded in the policy record were contemplated for
an early date, and that it would be undesirable at this time
to prejudge the outcome of those deliberations.
Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

Secretary