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A meeting of the Federal Open Market Committee was held in the
offices of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System in
Washington on Monday, September 28, 1942, at 10:15 a.m.
PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Eccles, Chairman
Sproul, Vice Chairman
Szymczak
McKee
Ransom
Draper
Evans
Alfred H. Williams
Gilbert
Young
Leedy
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Morrill, Secretary
Carpenter, Assistant Secretary
Goldenweiser, Economist
John H. ,illiams, Associate Economist
Dreibelbis, Assistant General Counsel
Rouse, Manager of the System Open
Market Account
Mr. Thurston, Special Assistant to the
Chairman of the Board of Governors
M
r. Smead, Chief of the Division of Bank
Operations of the Board of Governors
Mr. Thomas, Assistant Director of the
Division of Research and Statistics
of the Board of Governors
Mr. Piser, Chief, Government Securities
Section, Division of Research and
Statistics of the Board of Governors
Mr. Berntson, Clerk in the Office of the
Secretary of the Board of Governors
Messrs. Paddock, Fleming, McLarin, Davis,
and Day, alternate members of the Federal
Open Market Committee
Messrs. Leach and Peyton, Presidents of the
Federal Reserve Banks of Richmond and
Minneapolis, respectively
Mr. Sienkiewicz, Secretary of the Presidents'
Conference

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Mr. Edmiston, Assistant Vice President of the
Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis
Upon motion duly made and seconded,
and by unanimous vote, the minutes of the
meeting of the Federal Open Market Commit
tee held on August 3, 1942, were approved.
Mr.

Rouse distributed copies of a report prepared at the Federal

Reserve Bank of New York, under date of September 28, 1942, covering
open market operations in the System account during the period from Au
gust 3 to September 23, 1942,

inclusive, and he discussed briefly the

principal items in the report.

He also presented a supplementary report

prepared at the New York Bank covering transactions in the System account
during the period from September 24 to September 26,
which it

1942, inclusive, in

was stated that the total amount of securities held in the Sys

tem account had been increased to $3,488,725,000 on the latter date.
Upon motion duly made and seconded,
and by unanimous vote, the transactions in
the System account during the period from
August 3 to September 26, 1942, inclusive,
were approved, ratified, and confirmed.
During the course of the discussion of Mr. Rouse's report, Mr.
McKee stated that he would like to hold in reserve for later consider
ation the general question of policy which he had brought up at previous
meetings with respect to the treatment of premiums on securities held in
the System open market account.
Mr. Rouse stated that at the end of the calendar year 1941, when
earnings of the Banks,

after dividends, were only slightly above expenses,

one of the Federal Reserve Banks had shown a loss for the year, and it

had

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been suggested that, in oraer to avoid a situation of this kind in the
future, a method of allocation of earnings from the System account be
worked out so that when the earnings of the System as a whole were suf
ficient to cover expenses and dividends it
any Bank to show a loss.
ter with Mr.

would not be necessary for

Mr. Rouse said that he had discussed the mat

Smead and that they would suggest that the present procedure,

calling for quarterly allocations of securities held in the System ac
count,

be modified to the extent of providing for two additional alloca

tions, in the last quarter of each year, on November 1 and December 1,
on the basis prescribed by the existing procedure.
Upon motion duly made and seconded,
and by unanimous vote, the proposed change
in the existing procedure of allocation
was approved, with the understanding that
it would be applied as of November 1 and
December 1, 1942, and annually thereafter
in the same manner.
Mr. Rouse then said that, in connection with the directions
issued by the Federal Open Market Committee to the Federal Reserve Banks
to purchase all Treasury bills offered to such Banks on a discount basis
at the rate of 3/8 per cent per annum, the Federal Reserve Bank of New
York,

as agent for the System account,

had advised the other Federal Re

serve Banks that such purchases would be for delivery on the next busi
ness day except in
emergency, in

unusual cases, it

being understood that in the case of

order to provide funds to the selling bank, the bills would

be purchased for immediate delivery.

A number of banks, Mr. Rouse said,

that had repurchased bills previously sold to a Federal Reserve Bank on

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that basis had felt that they should be able to repurchase for immediate
delivery in order that they might have the benefit of the earnings on the
bills for the one day.

The Federal Reserve Bank of New York had taken

the position that the desire of the selling banks for additional earnings
did not constitute an emergency and that delivery on the day succeeding
the resale, which was the usual practice, was justified,

Mr. Rouse made

the further statement that some of the Federal Reserve Banks felt that,
when requested by the original seller, bills held under an option to re
purchase should be sold for immediate delivery, that if
decided upon it

such a course were

could be handled in the System account only if

the Federal

Reserve Bank of New York maintained a night accounting force, but that the
problem might be met by authorizing the Federal Reserve Banks to hold in
their own accounts bills purchased under an option to repurchase.
ensuing discussion, it

In the

was stated that the arrangement suggested by Mr.

Rouse could be effected by an amendment of the directions issued by the
Federal Open Market Committee to the Federal Reserve Banks under dates
of April 30 and August 3, 1942, and that an amendment of the Committee's
regulation relating to open market operations would not be necessary.
In response to an inquiry, Mr. Dreibelbis agreed with this view.
The suggestion was then considered in the light of the questions
(1) whether such an arrangement would be subject to possible abuse on the
part of banks and (2)

the extent to which the arrangement would be in line

with the effort of the System to obtain a wider distribution of bills.
Several of the Presidents said that they had had requests for immediate

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delivery of repurchased bills and that, in some cases, the Banks had ob
jected to one-day delivery.

The suggestion was made that the objective

sought might be accomplished by advising the banks that all resales of
bills would be on one-day delivery, so as to remove any possible mis
understanding as to future transactions.

Some of the members of the

Committee felt that this would be a satisfactory solution of the matter,
that, if arrangements were made for immediate delivery, all that would
be accomplished would be to give the holder the additional income for one
or two days,

and that, if

a concession were made on bills, the same con

cession might be asked in the future for certificates and possibly other
securities.

Other members took the position that the broad purpose was

to obtain a wider distribution of bills on the basis of the bills being
equivalent to cash, and that for that reason an arrangement should be
adopted which would permit immediate delivery on resale.
At the conclusion of the discussion,
Mr. Alfred H. Williams moved that the di
rections issued by the Federal Open Market
Committee under dates of April 30 and Au
gust 3, 1942, be amended to read as follows:
Until otherwise directed by the Federal Open Market Com
mittee, the twelve Federal Reserve Banks are directed to pur
chase all Treasury bills that may be offered to such Banks on
a discount basis at the rate of 3/8 per cent per annum, any
such purchases, if desired by the seller, to be upon the con
dition that the Federal Reserve Bank, upon the request of the
seller before the maturity of the bills, will sell to him
Treasury bills of like amount and maturity at the same rate
All bills purchased outright are to be pur
of discount.
chased for the System open market account. All bills pur
chased under option to repurchase are to be held by the
purchasing Federal Reserve Bank in its own account and
prompt reports of all such purchases are to be made to the
manager of the System open market account.

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The Federal Reserve Bank of New York, as agent for the
System account, is directed to transfer to the respective
Federal Reserve Banks as promptly as convenient all unmatured
bills held in the System account which were purchased by such
Banks for System account under an option retained by the sell
er to repurchase and such bills shall be received and held by
such Federal Reserve Banks subject to the first paragraph of
this direction.
Mr. Williams' motion having been duly
seconded was put by the chair and carried,
Messrs. Eccles, Ransom, Draper, Evans,
Williams, Gilbert, Young, and Leedy voting
"Yes" and Messrs. Sproul, Szymczak, and
McKee voting "No".
Upon motion duly made and seconded,
and by unanimous vote, the actions of the
executive committee of the Federal Open
Market Committee, as set forth in the min
utes of the.meetings of the executive com
mittee held on July 22 and August 3 and 18,
1942, were approved, ratified, and confirmed.
For the information of the Presidents of the Reserve Banks who
were not members of the executive committee of the Federal Open Market
Committee, Mr. Sproul reviewed the discussions had since the last meet
ing of the full Committee with representatives of the Treasury with re
spect to September Treasury financing and the recently announced Series
C tax notes.
Following Mr. Sproul's statement, Mr. Ransom discussed briefly
the considerations which led to action by the Board to reduce reserve
requirements of member banks in

central reserve cities effective

August 20 and September 13, 1942.
At this point, Mr. Clayton, Assistant to Chairman Eccles, joined
the meeting.
Statements were then made by Mr. Goldenweiser and Mr. John H.
Williams with respect to the large volume of future Treasury financing,

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the effect of such financing and increased business activity on member

bank reserves, and the steps that might be taken to meet this situation.
Copies of these statements have been placed in the files of the Federal

Open Market Committee.
The meeting then recessed and reconvened at 2:15 p.m. with the
same attendance as at the end of the morning session except that Messrs.
Clayton and Berntson were not present.
There was a discussion of some of the questions raised by Messrs.
Goldenweiser and Williams in

their statements,

particularly with respect

to changes in reserve requirements and the part that changes in the dis

count rate and borrowings by member banks might play in the System credit
policies.

There appeared to be no disagreement with the thought that

there was nothing in the history and experience of the Federal Reserve
System that would suggest that the System should abandon any of its

powers

in the field of credit control or should rely upon any single power to
the exclusion of the others, but that it
powers as circumstances might require.

should use any or all of its
There was agreement that it

be logical for the System to continue its

would

present policy with respect to

purchases of Treasury bills at a 3/8 per cent rate, or at a 1/2 per cent
rate if that should be agreed to by the Treasury, and at the same time
either to reduce to 1/2 per cent the discount rate in effect at the
Federal Reserve Banks on loans and advances to member banks under sec
tions 13 and 13a of the Federal Reserve Act or to establish a preferen
tial rate of 1/2 per cent on advances collateraled by Government secu
rities with maturities of one year or less.

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For the information of the Federal Open Market Committee in the
formulation of its

open market policies, there was a general informal

discussion of the relative merits of a reduction in the general discount
rate of the Reserve Banks to 1/2 per cent and of the establishment of a
preferential rate of 1/2 per cent,

on advances collateraled by Govern

ment securities with maturities of one year or less, and what the pos
sible attitude of the Reserve Banks and the Board of Governors might be
with respect to the establishment by the Reserve Banks of reduced discount
rates.

A majority of the Presidents indicated that they would favor a

preferential rate of 1/2 per cent.

All of the Presidents stated that, if

desired, they would be glad to present to their directors the question of
a reduction in the discount rate or the establishment of a preferential
rate as a matter of System policy.

In the discussion of this matter, it

was made clear that a reduction in the general discount rate or the estab
lishment of a preferential rate on Government securities would apply to
advances to both member and nonmember banks secured by direct obligations
of the United States.
It

was then suggested that it

would be helpful to the members of

the Federal Open Market Committee in the determination of its
policy if

open market

general agreements could be reached today by those present on

the following matters:
1.

What should be done to bring about a wider dis
tribution of bills.

2.

Whether the Federal Reserve Banks should reduce
their general discount rate to 1/2 per cent or
establish a preferential rate of 1/2 per cent.

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What should be done with respect to reductions
in reserve requirements.

4.

What the open market policy of the System should
be for the immediate future.

5.

What could be none to increase purchases of Gov
ernment securities by nonbank investors.

6.

October financing.

In a discussion of the first

of the six items, it

was suggested

that a wider distribution of bills might be obtained, and a more effec
tive use of existing reserves achieved, (1) by the issuance by the
Treasury each week of a stated amount of bills, in
ular offering, at a fixed rate for allotment in

addition to the reg

some limited amount to

each bank that desired to purchase them in that way, or (2) by the Sys
tem making Treasury bills available for purchase at the 3/8 per cent
rate up to a fixed amount by anyone desiring such bills.

It

was felt by

some of those present that the first suggestion would be extremely help
ful in broadening the distribution of bills, but it

was stated that ac

cording to information received from the Treasury it

was obliged under

present law to issue bills on a competitive basis,

and, so far as the

members of the Federal Open Market Committee knew, no way of meeting that
obstacle had yet been found.
There was some discussion of the desirability of Treasury cer
tificates as a medium for investment of short-term funds of the smaller
banks and of the desirability of the Treasury issuing a security with
a four-month maturity to meet this demand of country banks.
tion was made,

however, that it

The objeo

would be simpler for the Treasury to

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increase the volume of bills and for the System to attempt to get a wider
distribution rather than to add another short-term issue to the existing
variety of securities now outstanding.

The suggestion was offered that

the preferable method would be to use one-year certificates in increased
amounts which would provide the necessary volume for bank investment,
with a higher yield, and, combined with a reduction in the discount rate,
would afford a means to banks by which they readily could make temporary
adjustments in their positions.
During this discussion, Mr.

Clayton rejoined the meeting.

Reverting to the question of the discount .ate,

there was an in

formal discussion of the attitude of the members of the Board of Governors
toward a reduction in the general rate or the establishment of a preferen
tial rate of 1/2 per cent.

It

was understood that the Board would give

further consideration to this matter and that the Federal Reserve Banks
would be advised at an early date of its attitude with respect to it.
On the question of a further reduction in reserve requirements
of member banks,

Chairman Eccles expressed the opinion that, if

a further

reduction of 2 per cent in the reserve requirements of member banks in
central reserve cities were made, the System should resist as long as
possible any further reductions in requirement s, on the theory that for
the time being at least any further additions to the reserves of member
banks should be made through open market operations or member bank bor
rowings.
Mr. McKee stated that in
ments, reduced reserve balances,

his opinion, because of larger invest
and large interbank balances, member

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banks in central reserve cities should have higher required reserves
than banks in

reserve cities.

The problem of changes in reserve requirements was discussed in
the light of these opinions and the expectation that, if

reductions in

reserve requirements alone were relied on to furnish needed bank re
serves,

required reserves would almost reach the vanishing point by the

end of next year.

During the discussion, a majority of the Presidents

indicated a feeling that a further reduction of 2 per cent in reserve
requirements of central reserve city banks was expected but that such
action would not necessarily be regarded as an indication that still
further reductions were to be expected.

Most of the Presidents were of

the opinion that the System would be justified in taking the position
that, after another 2 per cent reduction was made in reserve requirements
of central reserve city banks, no further reduction should be made for the
time being, with the understanding that needed reserves would be supplied
through open market operations.

While this discussion was in

progress,

copies were distributed of a memorandum prepared by Mr. Horbett, Assist
ant Chief of the Division of Bank Operations,

which contained a current

analysis of the reserve position of member banks.
Chairman Eccles stated that the members of the executive committee
had been invited to a conference at the Treasury tomorrow at 11:00 a.m.
for the purpose of discussing Treasury financing,

and that, therefore, he

would suggest that the members of the Federal Open Market Committee and the
other Presidents of the Federal Reserve Banks meet again tomorrow to consider that subject.

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It

was agreed that, in view of the discussions at this meeting

of the Federal Open Market Committee,

substantially larger purchases of

securities for the System open market account undoubtedly would be nec
essary during the period before another meeting of the full Committee,
but that, inasmuch as purchases of Treasury bills at the buying rate were
not limited by the resolution adopted at the last meeting of the Committee,
the renewal of the authority contained in that resolution would meet the
situation for the time being, it

being understood that authority for addi

tional purchases of Government securities could be granted upon the tel
ephonic, telegraphic, or written approval of a majority of the members
of the Committee should that be found to be desirable.
Thereupon, upon motion duly made and
seconded, the following resolution was
adopted by unanimous vote:
That the executive committee be directed, until other
wise directed by the Federal Open Market Committee, to arrange
for such transactions for the System open market account, either
in the open market or directly with the Treasury (including pur
chases, sales, exchanges, replacement of maturing securities,
and letting maturities run off without replacement), as may be
necessary in the practical administration of the account, or
for the purpose of maintaining about the present general level
of prices and yields of Government securities, or for the pur
pose of maintaining an adequate supply of funds in the market,
or for the purpose of granting temporary accommodation to the
Treasury; provided that the aggregate amount of securities
held in the account at the close of this date (other than
Treasury bills purchased pursuant to the directions of the
Federal Open Market Committee issued under dates of April 30,
August 3, and September 28, 1942) shall not be increased or
decreased by more than $1,000,000,000.
The meeting then recessed with the understanding that it

would

reconvene at 9:00 o'clock tomorrow morning, September 29, for the

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consideration of problems relating to Treasury financing.

Secretary.

Approved:
Chairman.