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MEMORANDUM

OF DISCUSSION

A meeting of the Federal Open Market Committee was held in
the offices of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
in Washington, D. C, on Tuesday, September 10, 1974, at 3:15 p.m.
PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Burns, Chairman
Hayes, Vice Chairman
Black
Bucher
Clay
Holland
Kimbrel
Mitchell
Sheehan
Wallich
Winn

Messrs. Coldwell, MacLaury, Mayo, and Morris,
Alternate Members of the Federal Open Market
Committee
Messrs. Eastburn, Francis, and Balles, Presidents
of the Federal Reserve Banks of San Francisco,
Philadelphia, and St. Louis, respectively
Mr. Broida, Secretary
Mr. Altmann, Deputy Secretary
Mr. Bernard, Assistant Secretary
Mr. O'Connell, General Counsel
Mr. Axilrod, Economist (Domestic Finance)
Mr. Solomon, Economist (International Finance)
Messrs. Bryant, Gramley, Parthemos, Pierce, and
Reynolds, Associate Economists

Mr. Sternlight, Deputy Manager, System Open
Market Account

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Mr. Wonnacott, Associate Director, Division
of International Finance, Board of
Governors
Mr. O'Brien, Special Assistant to the Board
of Governors
Messrs. Keir and Williams, Advisers, Division
of Research and Statistics, Board of
Governors
Mr. Wendel, Assistant Adviser, Division of
Research and Statistics, Board of
Governors
Miss Pruitt, Economist, Open Market Secretariat,
Board of Governors
Mrs. Ferrell, Open Market Secretariat Assistant,
Board of Governors
Messrs. Eisenmenger, Boehne, and Scheld, Senior
Vice Presidents, Federal Reserve Banks of
Boston, Philadelphia, and Chicago,
respectively
Mr. Meek, Monetary Adviser, Federal Reserve
Bank of New York
Mr. Fousek, Economic Adviser, Federal Reserve
Bank of New York
Mr. Cox, Assistant Vice President, Federal
Reserve Bank of Atlanta
Mr. Rolnick, Economist, Federal Reserve Bank
of Minneapolis
Chairman Burns said he regretted any inconvenience that might
have been caused the members by the rescheduling of this meeting of
the Committee from 9:30 a.m. tomorrow to this afternoon.

The

rescheduling had been necessary because of conflict with one of
the "pre-summit" meetings called by

the Administration.

As the

Committee members were aware, the President had met with a group

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of professional economists in the first pre-summit last week.

The

second such meeting, with labor leaders, would be held tomorrow,
and the President had asked him to be present.
The Chairman said it was extremely important that the
Committee take whatever time was needed at this meeting for a
thorough discussion of the state of the economy and the appropriate
course of monetary policy.
7:00 or 7:30 p.m., and

Today's session might continue until

if more time was required, the meeting

could be reconvened for an hour or so early tomorrow morning and
again tomorrow afternoon.
Chairman Burns then called for the staff reports on the
domestic economic and financial situation, supplementing the written
reports that had been distributed prior to the meeting.

Copies of

the written reports have been placed in the files of the Committee.
Mr. Gramley made the following statement:
Business sentiment seems to have become noticeably
more pessimistic in recent weeks. There have been

increasing reports in the red book1/ and elsewhere
of cancellations of business capital spending plans,
of greater caution in inventory policies because of
excess stocks and high interest rates, and of weakening
in consumer demands for household furnishings and
appliances.
The August report of the National Association of
Purchasing Management was particularly bearish. Noting

1/ The report, "Current Economic Comment by District,"
for the Committee by the staff.

prepared

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further declines in the diffusion indexes for both
new orders and production, the NAPM interpreted these
as "flashing warning signals that the current reces
sion is beginning to permeate a broader segment of
the economy."
Some of the statistics becoming available since
the last Committee meeting, however, have had a bit
more positive tone, and the staff has not altered
significantly its view of the economic outlook. Pros

spects look to us gloomy, but they did a month ago
too.
We do not have a good reading yet on industrial
production in August, but it appears that output was
at about the same level as, or slightly below, the

July figure. Such physical volume data as we have
show little change in output between the 2 months,
but total manhours worked in manufacturing were off
0.7 per cent in August.
Auto assemblies, which remained at around an
8 million annual rate in August, are scheduled to rise
to just under a 9 million rate in the fourth quarter
if sales hold up. Our staff believes, however, that
these tentative production schedules are likely to
be revised down. Currently high sales rates probably
reflect efforts of consumers to beat price increases
on 1975 models and will not be sustained.
Employment data for August also suggest a con
tinued sideways movement in the economy. As you know,
the unemployment rate edged up to 5.4 per cent, and
initial claims for insured unemployment have risen
further since the mid-August survey week. There was
a moderate rise last month in total nonfarm employ
ment--that is, the payroll series--but it was centered
in services and State and local government. Manufac
turing employment was down, owing partly to strikes,
and construction employment recovered by much less
than the number of striking workers returning to
their jobs. Since May, employment in construction
has declined by about 120,000--or around 3 per cent.
The most puzzling statistics to come in during
recent weeks have been those relating to business
fixed capital investment. Manufacturers' capital
appropriations rose dramatically in the second quarter--

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especially in the materials industries--and new orders
for nondefense capital goods climbed another 6 per cent
in July. There is, I believe, substantial reason to
expect further increases in real investment in those
industries where we need it most from the standpoint
of eliminating shortages and relieving inflationary
pressures.
Outside the materials industries, however, a marked
deterioration seems to be occurring in business investment
intentions. Publicly announced cancellations of capital
spending plans that we have been keeping track of since
April have risen another $1-1/2 billion since the last
FOMC meeting, and now total over $10 billion, includ
ing at least $900 million in cutbacks during 1974.
The cancellations are mainly in utilities, but

there is reason to believe that other, less publicized
cutbacks are occurring elsewhere. Thus, the latest
Commerce Department survey of anticipated plant and
equipment expenditures shows a progressive deteriora
tion in expected outlays for the latter half of this
year that affects manufacturing as well as nonmanu
facturing activities. The weight of the evidence
points, we believe, to a modest decline in aggregate
real business fixed investment in coming quarters.
In weighing all the incoming facts, our staff

has found no good reason to revise in any major way
its GNP projection for the rest of this year and on
through 1975. We have incorporated into this projec
tion a cutback in Federal spending to just under $300
billion, on a unified budget basis, but we have
allowed for some additional Federal assistance to
housing in the first half of next year. These are
minor changes, and the real GNP pattern that emerges

is rather like what it was 3 weeks ago--with declines
through the first half of 1975 and a moderate pickup
thereafter. As before, the unemployment rate reaches
a level around 7-1/4 per cent late next year.
Our price projections are a little more gloomy
than they were last time, though not greatly so. The
size of recent wage and price increases has surprised
us once again, but we see some relief towards the end
of the forecast period because a reasonable case can
be made for an abatement of special factors, and the

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beginnings of a cooling off of underlying inflationary

pressures, in the economic environment projected. As
you are well aware, however, our staff forecasting
record in the price area has not been good, and these
current price projections are subject to a very wide
margin of error.
I feel somewhat more confident that our projec
tion of real activity is in the right ball park--assum
ing no change in monetary policy and a moderately more
restrictive course of fiscal policy. But if we have
erred, I believe the error lies in the direction of
underestimating the severity of the downward adjust
ment that seems to lie ahead.
Mr. Morris referred to Mr. Gramley's comment that any
error in the staff's projection was likely to be in the direction
of overestimating the strength of economic activity, and asked
whether the uncertainties were mainly in the area of inventory
investment.

He noted in that connection that the staff at the

Boston Reserve Bank found it difficult to reconcile the inventory
estimates

with the rest of the projection.

In their view, final

demands as weak as projected would be associated with a more severe
inventory contraction than the Board staff anticipated.
Mr. Gramley agreed that inventory investment represented
one element of uncertainty in the Board staff's judgmental projec
tion.

That projection called for a higher level of inventory

investment than suggested by the Board's econometric model, in
part because it seemed possible that the upward adjustment for
bias incorporated in the Commerce Department's inventory estimates

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from the end of 1972 forward might have resulted in an overstate
ment of the current level of inventories.

Also, it seemed unlikely

that the inventory pattern typical of most recessions would be
repeated in this cycle; while weakness was expected in many sectors,
it was anticipated that business fixed investment would remain high
relative to other recessionary periods and that the demand for
materials would continue strong.

But, as Mr. Morris had suggested,

any errors in the projections of inventory investment were likely to
be in the direction of overestimation relative to final sales.
Mr. Mayo observed that he was somewhat more optimistic than
the Board staff.
very strong.

For one thing, the capital sector still seemed

Moreover, the pattern of the projection over time

seemed unrealistic; to his knowledge, there had never been a series
of quarters in which real GNP remained essentially unchanged as long
as that indicated.
Mr. Gramley agreed that the staff projection could be ques
tioned on the basis of historical precedents but indicated that he
nevertheless considered it to be a reasonable possibility.

As to

the outlook for fixed capital investment, there was ample room for
differences of view, particularly in light of the puzzling nature
of some of the evidence.

For example, the latest Commerce Depart

ment survey of business plans indicated an annual rate of increase
in aggregate spending on plant and equipment of 8.4 per cent from

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the second to the fourth quarter of 1974.

Taken literally, that

increase in nominal spending would imply a sharp decline in real
expenditures on plant and equipment.

It was difficult to interpret

such a statistic.
Mr. Hayes said that, like Mr. Mayo, he was somewhat more
optimistic than the Board staff about the general economic outlook.
Whereas the Board projection called for a small decline in real
GNP for several quarters, projections made by the staff at the
New York Reserve Bank suggested a small, positive growth rate in
real GNP over the same period.

For one thing, the Bank projection

of consumer spending over the next five quarters was stronger than
that of the Board--apparently as a result of the Bank forecast of a
decline in the rate of personal saving.

He would like to have more

detail about the assumptions underlying the Board projection of
rather sluggish consumer expenditures.
In response, Mr. Gramley said the projected sluggish
performance of consumer spending reflected the expected sluggish
performance of real income.

He saw nothing in the information

available on consumer attitudes to indicate that consumers would
increase expenditures relative to income.

The econometric model

implied the opposite; given the trends likely for expenditures in
the nonconsumer sectors, the model suggested that the personal

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saving rate was more likely to rise than to fall.

The absence of

a rise in the saving rate in the judgmental model was probably
the chief cause of difference between the judgmental and econometric
projections.
Mr. Hayes then asked about the specific assumptions under
lying the staff projection that Federal spending would be less
than $300 billion in the 1975 fiscal year.
Mr. Gramley replied that the major assumptions were:
deferment of pay raises for Federal workers from October 1 until
January 1; a 40,000 cutback in Federal employment; postponement
of the expansion in the public service employment program until
the last quarter of the fiscal year; and a $2 billion reduction
in defense outlays, which was consistent with the legislation
approved by the Senate.

Of course, it was not certain that those

economies would actually be realized.
Mr. Hayes observed that, in view of the weakness in economic
activity anticipated by the Board staff, and given the assumption
that M 1 would grow at a rate of 5-3/4 per cent, he would have
expected the staff to project some decline in short-term interest
rates over the next four quarters.

However, the projection appeared

to imply little net change in short-term rates.

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In response, Mr. Gramley noted that, as a result of the
anticipated pace of price advance, nominal GNP was expected to
grow over the projection period at an average rate of about
7-1/2 per cent--well above the 5-3/4 per cent growth rate assumed
for

M
1 .

In his judgment, that relationship would be consistent with

a sort of rough stability in short-term interest rates over the
period as a whole.

In the near term, however, rates would not

necessarily be stable.
Mr. MacLaury remarked that, like Mr. Morris, he was
skeptical about the staff projection of the inventory-sales ratio;
he was inclined to doubt that that ratio would remain at histori
cally high levels through 1975.

Another point that concerned him

was the effect of recent stock market behavior on spending.

First,

it seemed to him that the low level of prices of common stocks
cast doubt on the likelihood of an upturn in the growth rate of
consumer spending in the second half of 1975.

Secondly, the

decline in stock prices would have an effect on the cost of capital
and, consequently, on business fixed investment.

He wondered

whether it would not be necessary to have a substantial upturn
in stock.prices to achieve the levels of consumer spending and
business fixed investment projected by the Board's staff.

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Mr. Gramley said he did not believe so, although he might
note that to an important extent the projection of consumption
expenditures yielded by the econometric model was lower than that
in the judgmental estimates because of the strength of the wealth
effect in the model's consumption equation.

The upturn in con

sumer spending projected by the staff for the latter half of 1975
was based on the increase in disposable income expected to result
from increased social security payments and an anticipated redis
tribution of income toward wage earners, reflecting the combina
tion of an expected slowing of inflation and continued large
increases in nominal wage rates.

There was no assumption of a

significant decline in the rate of saving.
Continuing, Mr. Gramley remarked that the econometric
model's projection of business fixed investment, which did take
into account changes in the cost of capital, was no more pessimistic
than the judgmental forecast.

There were, however, differences in

composition; the econometric model suggested more spending on
durable equipment and less on structures.
Mr. Eastburn observed that the projection made by the staff
at the Philadelphia Reserve Bank also was slightly less pessimistic
than that of the Board staff, particularly in the area of residen
tial housing.

He wondered if Mr. Gramley would comment on that

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sector and also summarize the main differences between the
econometric and judgmental projections.
In response, Mr. Gramley said the two projections were
basically similar with respect to the over-all pattern of future
changes in real GNP; the primary difference lay in the structure
of expenditures.

For example, the econometric model yielded sub

stantially higher figures for net exports and residential construc
tion but considerably lower figures for personal consumption
expenditures and inventories than did the judgmental model.
With respect to residential construction in particular,
Mr. Gramley continued, the econometric model implied that the
effects of credit availability on the housing market were of
relatively short duration and that, over the long run, the real
interest rate was a more important
construction.

determinant of residential

It was the opinion of the staff, however, that an

upturn in housing was not likely unless there were a significant
improvement in the mortgage market.
Mr. Balles said it was his impression, based partly on a
review of the economic situation with the directors of the San
Francisco Reserve Bank, that there were strong cross-currents in
the economy, particularly in the area of inventories.

On the one

hand, there was concern about possible involuntary inventory

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accumulation in housing-related consumer goods.

On the other

hand, in such industries as steel, petrochemicals, and paper
products, firms were having difficulty in maintaining inventories
at a reasonable level relative to sales.

In light of such dif

ferences, he would be inclined to exercise caution in making broad
assumptions about inventory trends.
Mr. Balles said he would like to associate himself with
those members who were more optimistic about the outlook for capital
spending and the economy than the Board staff.

On the whole, while

he thought the staff's projection of a decline in real GNP through
mid-1975 was within the range of reasonable possibilities, he sus
pected that it erred on the pessimistic side.
Chairman Burns remarked that it might be helpful if he
were to follow up Mr. Balles' comment on inventories by reading
some excerpts from a report on a survey conducted by the Commerce
Department in August.

The survey, which covered a number of major

U.S. corporations, focused on the question of existing shortages
of materials.
First, he might cite the following statement from the
general summary:
The items reported to be in shortest supply appeared to
be steel and related products such as scrap and castings,
paper and paperboard, polyvinyl chloride, soda ash, caustic
soda, chlorine, aluminum, zinc, and various types of
equipment.

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One of the respondents explained the reasons why the situa
tion for a series of products had worsened in the past few months
as follows:
Anthracite coal--mine regulations, rail car shortage;
calcined anthracite coal--reduced capacity due to pollu
tion regulations; magnesium--inadequate production capacity
vs. demand, coupled with end of stockpile availability;
silicon--inadequate production capacity and pollution abate
ment requirements causing temporary shutdowns; steel--mills
are late on deliveries and warehouse stocks short, booking
orders without prior buying history is impossible; machinery
and equipment--due in part to shortages of steel, castings,
bearings, and other components.
One large corporation indicated that it had established a
task force
to exert an all-out effort to identify substitutes for
polyvinyl chloride used in the various. . .components.
Many of the alternative materials, however, are already
in short supply.
Another corporation reported the following:
Of particular concern at this time is the delivery delayif not outright unavailability--of many metal products made
of steel, copper or aluminum. It has become apparent that
these producers are shortening their product lines in order
to increase productivity. This situation has resulted in a
100 per cent increase of our material shortages follow-up
and sourcing work. Almost every purchase order for major
equipment now requires expediting. The majority of the pur
chase orders placed now take longer to be completed, entail
additional negotiation and, in too many cases, require
follow-up prior to receipt.
The Chairman said he would conclude from those comments,
first, that it was very difficult to generalize about the economy

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at this time; aggregate data could be highly misleading when so
many particular markets were in disequilibrium.

Secondly, exist

ing shortages were limiting the economy's capacity to produce.

At

the same time, such shortages also served to maintain employment
because employers do not lay off workers when materials are unavail
able; they maintain the work force in the expectation that delivery
of materials will occur eventually, thus in effect hoarding labor.
Chairman Burns then asked Mr. Gramley for his views on the
implications of the survey findings.
Mr. Gramley said it seemed to him that the report failed
to take into account recent indications that shortages had become
less acute. In the last 3 or 4 months, in particular, the supply
situation had improved substantially for many commodities--for
example, petrochemicals and steel.

There were reports that all

types of steel were available now if the purchaser was
to pay the price.

willing

To the extent that the survey findings were

valid, however, the principal implication,

in his opinion, was

that the downturn would be less serious than it might otherwise
be; the expansion of capacity in those areas where shortages con
tinued, such as industrial materials, would help sustain economic

activity.

That consideration was one of the factors underlying

the staff projection.

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The Chairman, noting that that conclusion applied mainly
to the short run, remarked that he would draw another implication
as well:

if deficiencies in demand cumulated, there was likely to

be a sharp decline in employment in the longer run.

As he had

mentioned earlier, businesses had maintained employment in cases
where production had declined because of shortages.

If demand

weakened cumulatively and the shortages ended, the decline in
employment would be larger than that in production.
Mr. Coldwell noted that the recent pattern of labor force
growth had been rather volatile; the increase last year had been
quite large, but this year there had actually been declines in
some months.

He asked if the staff thought

that the historical

pattern of labor force participation was likely to be resumed or
whether it was possible that there would be sufficient flexibility
in participation rates to permit a decline in employment without
a rise in unemployment.
Mr. Gramley said the latter was not impossible.

In its

projections the staff had assumed a reasonably normal pattern of
labor force expansion for this stage of a cycle. Specifically, it
had projected a slowdown in labor force growth to about 900,000
from the fourth quarter of 1974 through the fourth quarter of 1975,
or about one-half the rate of 1.6 or 1.7 million that would be

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consistent with population trends and participation rates in the
absence of a cyclical contraction.

It was possible, of course,

that labor force growth would be even less than projected.
Chairman Burns observed that the slowdown assumed was a
considerable one.

There was no great regularity in the behavior

of the labor force during business cycles.

Historically, the rate

of growth in the labor force had diminished in roughly two-thirds of
the contractions, but in some contractions it had actually increased.
In his opinion the staff had made a rather conservative assumption.
Mr. Francis commented that, along with some other speakers,
he anticipated a little more strength in the economy than was
indicated by the Board staff's analysis.

He had the impression

from recent discussions with representatives of major corporations
in the Eighth District that shortages of some raw materials, such
as steel, were easing slightly, and that might have implications
for inventory investment.

However, none of the businessmen with

whom he had talked indicated that their companies had reduced their
capital spending programs for 1974.
its capital budget by one-third.

Indeed, one company had increased

However, the added spending reflected

higher prices rather than additional real capacity.
Mr. Francis then said he had been rather puzzled

by the con

tinued net growth in nonfarm employment so far this year in the face of

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declining real output.

While Chairman Burns had touched on that subject,

he wondered if the staff had any further comments.
Mr. Gramley remarked that there were two possible explana
tions of the recent relationship between employment and real output.
As Chairman Burns had suggested, there might well be some labor
hoarding, particularly in industries which had experienced shortages
of materials.

Secondly, it was possible that the GNP statistics

overstated the weakness in the economy during the first half of the
year.

There was some support for that possibility in the fact that

employment data for the trade and service industries were stronger
than seemed consistent with the GNP figures.

It was possible, of

course, that both explanations were valid.
Mr. Wallich said he would have expected average weekly
hours to fall sharply if employers were hoarding labor.

However,

there had not been such a decline in hours.
The Chairman noted that the weekly hours data reflected
hours paid for rather than hours worked.

While an employer could

eliminate overtime work when shortages made it necessary to reduce
production, he might well find it difficult to cut back on the
regular work week, particularly in industries where skilled workers
were hard to find.

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Mr. Wallich then noted that the staff projections suggested
that the rise of U.S. exports, while slowing somewhat, would remain
substantial.

The volume of exports would, of course, depend on the

level of farm prices and exchange rates for the dollar, among other
things.

Given the state of economic conditions abroad, however, he

was skeptical about the magnitude of the rise projected.
Mr. Bryant commented that the most uncertain part of the
export projections was that for agricultural exports, because agri
cultural prices were changing so rapidly.

As for nonagricultural

exports, the projections might well be too optimistic; if he were
revising them today, he probably would lower them somewhat.
Mr. Winn said he also would like to associate himself with
those who were more optimistic than the Board's staff about the
economic outlook.

His attitude was based in part on recent develop

ments in the construction industry, which had been experiencing
particularly severe problems.

Even though the situation of builders

in his District had worsened in some respects during recent months,
their attitudes had improved considerably; they now seemed to be
facing up to their problems
of despair.

rather than giving in to feelings

Furthermore, the demand for apartments seemed to

be picking up, and it appeared likely that rents could be increased
enough to make apartment building profitable--even with the present

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cost of money, increases in utility rates, and potential increases
in taxes.

He thought it was possible that the economy was now in

a transition phase, and that some of the current difficulties might
be resolved more quickly than the staff's projections implied.

How

ever, a lengthy coal strike this fall could cause serious problems.
Coal inventories of public utilities and steel companies were
extremely low at present.
The Chairman said he had heard reports that the current
strong demand for steel reflected expectations of a coal strike,
and that steel mills might have to shut down after 3 weeks if there
was a strike.
Mr. Black said some observers thought that, in view of the
strong demand for coal, the coal company operators might yield to
the union demands rather quickly.

However, that view was not

unanimous.
The Chairman asked whether the staff had any comments on
the likelihood of a revival in apartment construction.
Mr. Gramley said it was very likely that there would
be a buildup in the backlog of demand for housing--particularly
for apartments, because single-family housing had become too expen
sive for the average consumer.

He believed, however, that an upturn

in apartment construction would be dependent on two developments.

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First, there would have to be a substantial increase in rents;
the trend toward condominiums undoubtedly reflected the unprofit
ability of new rental units at the current level of rents.

Secondly,

there would have to be a significant easing in the availability of
funds for multi-family dwellings.

The difficulties experienced by

real estate investment trusts had substantially reduced the avail
ability of such funds, and as yet no alternative sources had been
found.
Mr. Mitchell observed that at a meeting the Board had held
with representatives of the Mortgage Bankers Association of America
last week, one mortgage banker had made a rather striking comment.
He had said that all poor builders had failed in 1973; that average
builders were in trouble now; and that, if conditions did not
improve, the good builders would be in serious trouble by the end
of the year.
ing.

Comments

by others in the group also were dishearten

He might also mention the reports in recent red books warning

of potential builder failures if materials shortages, reduced avail
ability of funds, and the high cost of funds

continued.

It seemed

to him that some of the builders who were optimistic about their
prospects were simply myopic.
The Chairman remarked that conditions in the construction
industry probably differed substantially by region.

For the country

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as a whole, the available data suggested that there had been over
building of both apartments and office buildings.

For apartment

buildings, vacancy rates were now higher than they had been for
several years.
Mr. Gramley said that, although vacancy rates had risen,
the amount of overbuilding of multi-family structures did not
appear to be nearly as great as it had been in, say, 1965.
Mr. Winn said it was his impression that the problem of
overbuilding was concentrated mainly in office buildings, although
even in that field conditions differed

by region.

Mr. Mitchell observed that there were other trouble spots,
including condominiums, second homes, and motels.

The problem of

over-commitment was most dramatically displayed in the difficulties
being experienced by REIT's.
Mr. Black asked whether business efforts to deal with
inventory problems were likely to have a perceptible effect on
prices or interest rates.
Mr. Gramley replied that if involuntary inventory accumula
tion became large enough over the next quarter or so to generate
distress selling at the retail level, it was possible that there
would be some price cutting.

There already was some evidence of

a similar development in the industrial raw materials area; as

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inventories of materials had grown, demand had begun to ease and
prices of sensitive raw materials had begun to decline.

It was

doubtful that there would be any significant impact on interest
rates, however, unless the decline in the rate of inventory accumu
lation proved to be much larger than now envisaged.

A shift to

zero or negative inventory investment would, of course, imply a
recession sufficiently severe to produce a decline in interest
rates.

The staff did not anticipate

investment of that magnitude.

a decline in inventory

As he had noted earlier, however, on

the basis of the current aggregate inventory-sales ratio relative
to past relationships, the econometric model yielded more pessimistic
results than shown in the judgmental projection.
Mr. Black observed that the historical relationships
embodied in the equations of the model reflected conditions quite
different from those prevailing at present.
Mr. Gramley agreed.

He added that the staff had projected

a more modest decline in inventory investment than suggested by
past relationships because of the special factors in the current
situation.
Mr. Sheehan said he strongly disagreed with the Com
mittee members who believed the staff was unduly pessimistic about
the economic outlook.

Like Mr. Gramley, he thought any errors in

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the staff projection were likely to be in the direction of under
estimating the magnitude of the downward adjustment.
From recent conversations with a number of businessmen,
Mr. Sheehan continued, he had concluded that shortages of materials
were much more isolated now than they had been 3 or 4 months ago.
Certain grades of steel were still in short supply;

for example,

one fabricator in the Southeast reported that, while he could obtain
sheet steel, he could not maintain a 2-day supply of welding material
despite the use of expediters all over the country.

On the other

hand, steel reinforcing rods for concrete, which had been in very
short supply earlier in the year, were now available.

Several textile

industry representatives reported that they were receiving numerous
cancellations of orders, and people in both the textile and glass
industries indicated that they were paying careful attention to
their inventories.
It seemed quite likely to him, Mr. Sheehan observed, that
the inventory correction would be greater than suggested in the
staff projection.

He also was quite worried about the outlook

for sales of the 1975 automobiles, in view of the extremely
sharp increases inauto prices and the declines in real income.

He

had had much the same pessimistic feeling about the economy last
December, and while he had been wrong then and might be wrong again,

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he still believed the economy might well be even weaker than the
staff suggested.
Mr. Kimbrel noted that the directors of the Federal Reserve

Bank of Atlanta had demonstrated considerably more pessimism
during the last 10 days than at any time in the recent past.

That

change in attitude undoubtedly reflected the problems being encountered
in their own industries, which included construction, mortgage financ
ing, utilities, and textiles.

Furthermore, a significant deteriora

tion in public confidence in the banking system was suggested by an
increase in the number of inquiries about FDIC deposit insurance, and
about the procedures the FDIC followed when banks experienced diffi
culties.

Those inquires typically did not involve any particular

banks but were general in nature.
Mr. Kimbrel then noted that the staff was projecting an
increase in the unemployment rate to the neighborhood of 7 per cent
by next fall.

He asked about the outlook for wages.

Mr. Gramley responded that the projections implied an
increase in the average hourly earnings index at a rate of about
9 per cent over the projection period.

It was assumed that the

wage increases provided in large union contracts would probably
be higher, but that growing unemployment in the competitive sectors,
such as trade and services, would dampen the over-all rate of increase.

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Mr. Holland noted that the high employment budget, which
had been showing a moderate deficit for several quarters, was
expected to shift to a rather sizable surplus.

The staff projec

tion indicated a change of about $10 billion between the third

and fourth quarters of this year, and a further change of similar
size in the first half of 1975.

He asked what specific factors

accounted for that increase in fiscal drag.
Mr. Gramley replied that the surplus was primarily a result
of the anticipated restraint in Federal spending; no particular
change in tax provisions was assumed.
Mr. Wendel noted also-that inflation tended to increase
Federal receipts relative to expenditures.

Mr. Gramley added that estimates of the high employment
budget figures had to be interpreted cautiously, in view of the
large role played by inflation in determining the final figures.
Mr. Holland then observed that the staff projections sug
gested a substantial shrinkage in profit margins from the fourth

quarter on in nominal terms--and an even greater shrinkage in real
terms.

He wondered whether the decline in profits was expected to

have an impact on capital spending within the projection period or
whether longer lags were typically involved.

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Mr. Gramley replied that, while declining profit margins
had been an element in the staff's thinking in connection with
the projection of developing weakness in some areas of business
fixed capital investment, they did not play a major role.

The

major factors were the cutbacks in capital spending already
announced by public utilities, the current high level of interest
rates, and the accelerator effects in industries where demand
factors were becoming more important, such as automobiles.

No

great weight had been given to cyclical changes in profit margins
because business investment recently had appeared to be demon
strating less cyclical response than in the past.

He thought that

businessmen would recognize the relationship between the reduction
in profits and the cyclical slowing of economic activity, and would
base their investment decisions mainly on longer-run considerations.
Finally, Mr. Holland said, he had the impression that there
were powerful cross-currents in the economy that were likely to
persist for

some time.

He wondered whether cross-currents were

becoming evident in price movements, despite the continuing rapid
rise of the over-all indexes.

Specifically, he asked whether there

had been any significant reduction in the number of sectors of the
economy that were generating price increases.
Mr. Gramley replied that prices of both food and fuels
were now rising less rapidly than before.

There also had been a

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weakening in prices of sensitive industrial raw materials.

With re

spect to the over-all averages, it appeared that inflation was slow
ing to a pace approaching the rate of increase in unit labor costs.
Chairman Burns commented that although the index of sensi
tive industrial raw materials prices had been declining irregularly,
the total index of industrial materials prices had not declined.
Mr. Mayo remarked that he had hoped in connection with the
next Federal budget that President Ford would be able to obtain the
cooperation of Congress in restraining expenditures.

In view of

the reaction to the recent pardon of former President Nixon, he
wondered whether President Ford would be able to mobilize the Con
gressional support needed for greater fiscal restraint.
The Chairman noted that he had observed increasing concern
over the past few months about the Federal budget on the part of
Congressmen in both political parties--a concern which undoubtedly
reflected the attitudes of their constituents.

The passage of

budget reform legislation was one expression of the growing atten
tion that Congress was giving to procedures that would facilitate
better control over Federal spending.

Because he thought the

basic attitudes of the public about Government expenditures had
not changed, he did not believe that Congressional support of
the President's efforts to control spending would be appreciably
diminished.

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Before this meeting there had been distributed to the
members of the Committee a report from the Manager of the System
Open Market Account covering domestic open market operations for the
period August 20 through September 4, 1974, and a supplemental
report covering the period September 5 through 9, 1974.

Copies of

both reports have been placed in the files of the Committee.
In supplementation of the written reports, Mr. Sternlight
made the following statement:
In the brief interval since the last meeting of
the Committee, the Trading Desk provided reserves a
bit more readily, within a context of sustained
restraint, responding to decisions made at the August
meeting and to intervening evidence of relatively slow
growth in key monetary aggregates. At the same time
the Desk was mindful of the desirability of avoiding
overly aggressive tactics that would risk market mis
interpretation of the extent of System moves. Sharp
fluctuations in interest rates, especially in the bill
market, provided an unsteady backdrop to the Desk's
reserve operations, posing a continual risk that the
market would either over-interpret or under-interpret
our intentions.
In the early part of the period, when bill rates
were backing up sharply in the wake of the Treasury's
announcement of a $2 billion sale of 10-month bills
to raise new cash, the Desk made fairly strenuous
efforts to move Federal funds below 12 per cent. The
Federal funds rate declined 39 basis points to an
average of 11.84 per cent in the August 28 week, helping
to set the stage for an improved credit market atmosphere.
A weaker view of the aggregates by the end of August
called for revising the Desk's money market objective
a little further, to a funds rate around 11-3/4 per cent,
as estimated M1 growth was falling somewhat below the
lower end of the Committee's desired range. The further

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decline in the funds rate, to an average of 11.64 per
cent in the September 4 week, was brought about through
reserve-providing market forces, which the Desk par
tially offset, against a background of brighter market
sentiment.
In the final days of the interval, the Desk
retained an objective of around 11-3/4 per cent even
though the aggregates had softened further. Overt action
to produce significant further easing would have risked
a breakout of over-ebullient expectations, especially in
the wake of the Board's announced reduction in reserve
requirements on over-4-month CD's. Funds traded around
11-1/2 to 11-5/8 per cent on September 5 and 6, elicit
ing Desk action to absorb reserves, but the rate firmed
unexpectedly to average around 11-7/8 per cent on
Monday, September 9, despite an ample projected avail
ability of reserves. This morning, trading was in the
area of 11-3/4 per cent.
Based on their observations of System actions
and press comments, most market participants seem to
have concluded that a very modest modification of
restraint has taken place. There remains a great sen
sitivity to further developments that might confirm,
enlarge, or diminish the market's evaluations of a
possible shift. At present, dealers seem disposed
not to go overboard in bidding up prices. They have
been up this path too recently. On balance, there
seems to be a feeling that policy,at least as measured
by the Federal funds rate, is more likely to ease off
a bit further than to hold fast or tighten. Accord
ingly, the dealers are not too uncomfortable with
their fairly sizable positions in bills, coupons, and
agency issues.
The sharp swings in market sentiment over the
period were most noticeable in the Treasury bill rate,
which backed up dramatically in the first few days of
the period. From auction averages of 8.85 and 8.90
per cent on the 3- and 6-month bills the day before
the last meeting, the averages climbed to record dis
counts of 9.91 and 9.93 per cent on August 26. This
past Monday, September 9, the rates were back down to
9.10 and 8.98 per cent. In the meantime, the Treasury's
$2 billion, 10-month bill, which looked for a time as

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though it might not be covered in the auction, drew
strong dealer bidding on August 28, selling at an

average rate of 9.77 per cent.

Dealers still hold

a sizable supply of this bill.
Treasury coupon issues followed a course similar
to that of bills, but with less dramatic moves. Dealer

inventories of coupon issues have come down only modestly
in the past few weeks, but as noted, the dealers do not
seem greatly concerned on this point. Reserve needs
after mid-September may offer some opportunity for Desk
purchases in this area.
Elsewhere in the capital markets, yields on
corporate and municipal bonds have risen on balance
over the period in rather thin trading. While these
markets have continued to function, their condition
has remained fragile and they would not appear to be
receptive to much of an increase in new issue volume.
The stock market, meantime, has remained an area of
deep gloom, broken by only occasional brief rallies,
as market participants await more solid evidence that
our economic ills are on the way to solution.
Mr. Holland asked whether it would be correct to infer
from Mr. Sternlight's characterization of attitudes in the market
that the risks were lower now than at other times that some further
decline in the funds rate in the period ahead would produce a major
rally in prices of securities.

In his own view, market attitudes

were more favorable than they had been for some time.
Mr. Sternlight replied that there was less risk of a major
rally in response to the degree of movement in the funds rate that
had recently occurred, but a larger decline could reawaken ebullient
expectations.

While market participants now were disposed to recall

market developments of last February and of September 1973, such

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memories could fade away if the participants observed what they
considered to be a really significant movement in the funds rate
and in System policy; the market was still vulnerable to misinter
pretations of System actions.
In response to questions from Messrs. Holland and

Mitchell,

Mr. Sternlight observed that market participants watched the behavior
of the monetary aggregates--as well as that of the funds rate--for
clues to the course of monetary policy because they believed that
the Committee gave a lot of weight to it.

He believed that was

true of the equity as well as the debt markets.
Mr. Axilrod added that over the past few months market
participants might have changed their assessment of the weight to
be given to the aggregates as an indicator of policy.

One active and

knowledgeable participant once had remarked that he took 6 weeks of
stability in M1 as a sure sign of a forthcoming rally in the bond
market.

Now, M

had been stable for 6 weeks, but there had been

no signs of a rally in bond markets.
Mr. Eastburn asked whether a reduction even as small as
a quarter of a point in the discount rate would be likely to touch
off substantial declines in market rates and whether there was
speculation in the market that the rate soon would be reduced.

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In reply, Mr. Sternlight said the dealers had not been
talking about the possibility of a cut in the discount rate.

Even

a small reduction would elicit some reaction, but whether it would
provoke substantial declines in market rates would depend on the
whole situation at the time and whether the market had reason to
view the reduction as part of a pattern of System actions.

For

example, the recent Board action to remove the marginal reserve
requirement on large time deposits maturing in 4 months or more
could have touched off dramatic changes in rates, but the market inter
preted the actions--as itwas encouraged to do--as a rather modest move.
By unanimous vote, the open
market transactions in Government
securities, agency obligations, and
bankers' acceptances during the
period August 20 through September 9,
1974, were approved, ratified, and
confirmed.
Mr. Axilrod made the following statement on prospective
financial relationships:
1/
Of the three alternatives
presented to the
Committee today, alternative B is generally consistent
with the projection of the economic outlook presented
by Mr. Gramley, assuming that the 5-3/4 per cent annual
growth rate for M shown in that alternative were to
be continued throughout next year. Alternative A is

1/ The alternative draft directives submitted by the staff for
Committee consideration are appended to this memorandum as Attachment A.

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moderately more expansive, characterized by a 6-1/2
per cent annual rate of growth in M 1 , while alterna
tive C represents a less expansive policy and includes
a 5-1/4 per cent rate of growth in M1. Alternative C
assumes unchanged money market conditions, while
alternatives A and B presume varying degrees of eas
ing in money market conditions, and in interest rates
and credit conditions more generally, over the months
immediately ahead.
The recent shortfalls in M1 growth have brought
the level of M1 sufficiently below the growth path
adopted at recent meetings so as to require some further
easing of money market conditions to encourage a move
back toward path. The extent of ease would depend on
how promptly, if at all, the Committee may wish to
compensate for the shortfall. Alternative C does not
contemplate compensating for the shortfall at all,
while alternatives A and B do make it up, in one case
by winter and in the other by spring.
Whether the recent shortfall reflects long-lasting
factors, or is a temporary aberration that may be
followed in the coming months by an overshoot that
occurs more or less naturally (i.e., without signifi
cant declines in the funds rate) is, of course, a
critical question. Earlier, we had assumed such an
overshoot would occur, perhaps in September. It still
may, but the fragmentary figures for early September
do not suggest it.
We have attempted to determine what, if any,
special factors may have been at work retarding M1
growth in the summer, given the interest rates that
have prevailed. There are a few. One is the behavior
of foreign official demand deposits. They have been
declining over the past 2 months, and account for
about 1 percentage point, at an annual rate, of the
2-month July-August slowdown in M 1 growth. The rise
in U.S. Government deposits from June to August may
be another special factor that retarded M1 growth,
although I hesitate to mention it because our statis
tical evidence on the relationship between U.S. Govern
ment deposits and M1 is, in my view, weak.
Another factor that might be mentioned, and a
more basic economic one, is the possibility that during

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before of the eroding impact of rising prices on the
real value of their cash balances. In the short-run
consumers could well have attempted to protect them
selves by moving into attractive interest-earning
assets that were becoming available. It is also
possible that in August cash was drawn down to meet
part of the downpayments on auto purchases, which
expanded as consumers acted to beat the price increases.
If these special factors have been affecting M
1
growth, there would be room for resumption of greater
growth in the months ahead, when U.S. Government deposits
are projected to decline and when, as may occur, foreign
official deposits stop declining. We have allowed for
this to some extent in our projections, which do assume
a substantial pick-up in growth after September. But
it is quite possible that we may not have allowed for
enough. Thus, the Committee may wish to consider rais
ing the upper end of the 2-month, September-October
ranges of tolerance, if it wishes to permit a somewhat
more rapid M1 growth in the short-run, should it develop
at the Federal funds rate specified.
One final point should be made, however. Short
falls in M growth may also reflect a weakening of
economic activity relative to staff projections. The
longer that shortfalls in M1 growth continue, given
particular money market conditions, the more likely
are they to reflect a weakening in transactions demands
for cash, and hence in GNP, as compared with expecta
tions. This line of reasoning argues for permitting
interest rates to decline as reserves are supplied in
an effort to sustain M1 growth. I would point out,
however, that in 1973 we had a third quarter in which
M1 showed no growth, but this was followed by a fourth
quarter in which it grew by 9 per cent, even though
interest rate declines were relatively very modest.
Thus, at the present time, one option for the Committee
to consider is whether it wishes to await somewhat more
sustained weakness in M1 before contemplating a policy
that permits relatively sizable interest rate declines.

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Mr. Morris remarked that in the second half of 1973when a quarter of no growth in M1

was followed by a quarter of

substantial growth, as noted by Mr. Axilrod--economic activity
was expanding, and he was doubtful that the experience of that
period was relevant to the present situation.
In response, Mr. Axilrod commented that nominal GNP
was projected to expand at an annual rate of about 8.5 per cent
in the second half of this year, not far below the rate of
about 10.5 per cent in the second half of 1973.

However, real

GNP was projected to decline in the current period while it
had expanded somewhat in the earlier one, and therefore, the
behavior of the public's transactions demands for cash might
differ this time.
Mr. Black asked whether a lagged response to the
upswing in interest rates earlier in the year might not be
another possible cause of the recent weakness in M1 growth.
That cause, coupled with a shortfall in transactions demands
for cash, might result in continuing weakness in M

growth.

Mr. Axilrod replied that the lags in the relation
ship between interest rates and monetary growth were both
uncertain and variable.

It was possible that the recent

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weakness in M1 growth reflected a shorter-than-normal lag in
the response to last summer's rise in interest rates.

If that

were the case, however, resumption of higher rates of growth
also would be likely to occur sooner than would otherwise be
expected.
Mr. Hayes observed that in the perspective of develop
ments over the past few years he found it difficult to see any

shortfall in M1 growth.

M1 grew at an annual rate of 8.7 per

cent in 1972, of just over 6 per cent in 1973, and of about
5.25 per cent in 1974 to date.

He regarded that gradual slow

ing in the growth rate as appropriate in the highly inflationary
conditions that the System had been trying to combat.
Mr. Axilrod responded that in his statement he had not
attempted to judge the appropriateness of any of the M

growth

paths presented in the blue book. 1/ He merely had pointed out
that the August base from which alternative growth paths were
projected was below the growth paths adopted by the Committee
at recent meetings and, consequently, that a 5-1/4 per cent
growth path projected from the August base resulted in a

1/ The report, "Monetary Aggregates and Money Market Conditions,"
prepared for the Committee by the Board's staff.

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lower level of M
1

in the second half of this year than had

been anticipated by the Committee.
Mr. MacLaury asked whether there might be any validity
to another possible explanation for the recent slowing down
in M1 growth--namely, that banks had become sufficiently con
,
cerned about the state of their own liquidity and that of the
banking system as a whole that they were tightening up their
lending policies without regard for the availability of

reserves.
Mr. Axilrod said he would not exclude that possibility.
If banks had been tightening up their lending policies to that
degree, growth in nominal GNP would be restrained and growth
in M1 would be held down.

As he had observed in his statement,

the longer shortfalls in M
1

growth persisted, given particular

money market conditions, the more likely they were to reflect
a slower-than-expected rate of growth in GNP.
After recessing briefly, the Committee reconvened
with limited staff attendance.

In addition to the members,

alternate members and other Reserve Bank Presidents, the
following were present:

Messrs. Broida, Altmann, O'Connell,

Axilrod, Bryant, Gramley, and Sternlight.

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Also present were:
Mr. Coombs, Special Manager, System Open Market
Account
Mr. Coyne, Assistant to the Board of Governors
Before this meeting there had been distributed to the
members of the Committee a report from the Special Manager of the
System Open Market Account on foreign exchange market conditions
and on Open Market Account and Treasury operations in foreign cur

rencies for the period August 20 through September 4, 1974, and a
supplemental report covering the period September 5 through 9, 1974.
Copies of these reports have been placed in the files of the Committee.
In supplementation of the written reports, Mr. Coombs
made the following statement:
Despite some strong German trade figures
and disappointing U.S. figures for August, the
dollar has firmed up considerably since the
last meeting of the Committee. Interest rate
differentials continue to favor New York and
the Euro-dollar market as against Frankfurt,
and the failures of two more small German
banks have probably resulted in further out
flows of short-term funds from Germany.
As the mark came on offer we cleaned up
the $55 million residual of our mark debt and
added roughly $60 million to balances. The
mark is now trading only slightly below its
central rate. The German Federal Bank has
been intervening fairly heavily to keep it
from declining further, and I am hopeful

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that they will continue to do so. Before
making heavy additions to our mark balances,
however, I should like to see a firmer expres
sion by the German Federal Bank and the German
Government as to their exchange rate policy.
Meanwhile, the mood of apprehension in
both the exchange market and the Euro-dollar
market has deepened, with particular concern
now being expressed that the Euro-dollar market
and perhaps the New York market as well are
approaching the limits of their capacity to
recycle Arab oil money back to the deficit
countries. There is much worrying by respon
sible people that the near-saturation of the
Euro-dollar market both as a recipient and a
lender of funds may bring about sudden heavy
flows of oil money into the U.S. Government
securities market while the supply of dollar
liquidity elsewhere will equally suddenly dry
up. In effect, we are getting back to the
market psychology of last winter which pro
duced such a sharp run-up in dollar rates,
but with a real possibility this time that
some of these fears may actually materialize.
Chairman Burns asked why Mr. Coombs thought it would
be desirable for the German Federal Bank to continue to
intervene.
Mr. Coombs replied that he was concerned about the
risk of sizable declines in exchange rates against the dollar
of a number of major foreign currencies, in a repetition of
the pattern of last year when declines on the order of 20
per cent were recorded.

In his judgment, that sharp fall-

and subsequent rise--in exchange rates had served no useful

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purpose; on the contrary, it had contributed to present problems
by fostering a casino-like atmosphere in exchange markets and
by augmenting domestic inflation.

The current situation was

marked by many imponderables; until more was known about the
fundamentals, he thought it would be helpful to have a reason
able degree of stability in exchange markets.
In reply to a question by Mr. Winn, Mr. Coombs said
the flows of oil funds to the United States in the coming
period might be so large that the U.S. market would have dif
ficulty accommodating them.
Mr. Morris asked whether modest declines in U.S. interest
rates would be helpful in stabilizing the situation.
Mr. Coombs replied that he thought not.

U.S. Government

securities were an attractive investment to the oil producers
not so much because of the interest rates they carried but rather
because of their high credit standing.
Chairman Burns remarked that the source of the difficulty
lay in the massive volume of funds being accumulated by the oil
exporting countries.

The problem was likely to be unmanageable

unless the flows to those countries were reduced by a decline in
the price of oil.

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Mr. Mitchell said he assumed that investment outlets could
be found for funds of OPEC countries so long as those countries
were prepared to bear the credit risks involved.

He would be

opposed to any program in which the risks were borne by institu
tions which the United States would underwrite.
Mr. MacLaury remarked that the basic question seemed to
be whether the U.S. Government should undertake to resolve the
problem--specifically, whether this country should offer a
recycling facility for oil money.
Chairman Burns observed that that was the outcome a
number of European countries no doubt would like to see.

If

most of the funds of the OPEC countries were invested in the
United States, U.S. commercial banks would be able to recycle
only part of them because the number of creditworthy borrowers
was limited.

When a financial solution was found to be impossible,

a political solution was likely to be sought; some Europeans were
probably already envisioning a grandiose new Marshall Plan, involv
ing tens of billions of dollars.

In his judgment, there was no

chance at all that the Congress would agree to any such plan.
Another plan that was likely to be discussed actively in
the weeks ahead, the Chairman continued, involved the establish
ment of a new and much larger recycling facility in the International

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Monetary Fund.

Under the present facility, which was somewhat

more than $3 billion in size, the countries supplying funds
received a below-market interest rate of 7 per cent, and borrowers
were charged a below-market rate.

The proposed new facility would

be much larger--perhaps $10 to $20 billion--and it would be
designed to attract OPEC funds by offering returns equal to market
interest rates.

Such a facility would not pose any immediate

issues for the U.S. Congress unless it was proposed to assemble
funds not only from the OPEC countries but from the United States
also.

However, the IMF was likely to incur losses on the recycl

ing operations, and it might be presumed by other countries that
the United States and West Germany would be willing to make up
such losses.

In his judgment any such presumption would be highly

questionable.
Mr. Hayes said he fully agreed with the thrust of the
Chairman's remarks, including the view that Congress was unlikely
at present to approve a plan under which the United States would
act to resolve the oil financing problem.

It appeared, however,

that the OPEC countries wanted to invest large sums directly in

this country.

Eventually, therefore, U.S. action to facilitate

recycling might be necessary in order to avert a catastrophe.
In light of that possibility, he wondered whether it might not

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be desirable for the Administration to undertake an educational
process now.
Chairman Burns remarked that he, for one, would not want
to undertake such an educational process.
have to be found.

Other solutions would

In the short run, the OPEC countries could

ameliorate the problem they had created by lending directly to
the countries experiencing great difficulty in financing oil
imports; in the longer run, the problem should be resolved by
a reduction in the price of oil.
Mr. Holland observed that it obviously was not in the
U.S. national interest to have attractive returns offered on any
securities the OPEC countries acquired directly from the Treasury.
It also would be desirable to discourage U.S. banks from offering
high rates for OPEC funds placed with them.
Mr. Wallich said he would agree that the best solution
to the immediate problem would be for the OPEC countries to make
direct loans to the countries having difficulty in financing oil
imports.

If that was not feasible, he thought the next best

hope lay in the IMF.

As a matter of practice, the IMF so far

probably had never reached the conclusion that it had incurred
a loss because a borrowing country had defaulted; typically, when

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a borrower was unable to make scheduled payments, the debt was
renegotiated and the repayment period stretched out.
Chairman Burns remarked that the procedure Mr. Wallich
had described was typical of the past.

However, there was now

a new financial environment in which everything was on a much
larger scale.
Mr. Coombs noted in that connection that payments to
oil producers in September alone would come to $10 billion.

To

his mind, the best solution by far would be for the OPEC countries
to offer direct credits to the oil-importing countries.
Mr. Hayes said it was -important to bear in mind that,
regardless of the degree of recycling, the poorer oil-importing
countries would probably find the burden of debt service unbearable.
Mr. Wallich noted that the only way in which debts for
oil imports--or even the interest on such debts--could really be
paid in fact was by exports of goods and services from oil-import
ing to oil-exporting countries.

So long as the oil exporters

were accumulating financial claims, it mattered little whether
they were charging for oil or charging interest; the sums involved
simply had to be added to the total debt.
Mr. MacLaury asked whether it might not be better to use
the World Bank rather than the IMF as a loan-pooling facility,
since the problem was not of a short-run nature.

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-46Chairman Burns said there was merit in that suggestion.

One problem, however, was that the World Bank customarily made
loans to the so-called developing nations, whereas the countries
experiencing difficulty in financing oil imports included some of
the strong industrial nations.
By unanimous vote, the System
open market transactions in foreign
currencies during the period August 20
through September 9, 1974, were approved,
ratified, and confirmed.
The Chairman noted that at the September meeting of central
bank governors in Basle, from which Messrs. Wallich and Coombs had
just returned, a communique had been issued relating in part to
assistance to Euro-market financial institutions facing temporary
1/
liquidity problems.--

He invited Mr. Wallich to comment.

Mr. Wallich observed that the communique was written
with the understanding, conveyed by those central bankers present
who had also been at the Paris meeting of finance ministers and
central bankers, that the finance ministers were expecting the
governors' meeting at Basle to come forward with a statement on
the lender-of-last-resort function.

The communique contained

relatively little detail about central bank responsibilities as
lenders of last resort in the Euro-markets and it did not
1/ A copy of the communique is appended to this memorandum as
Attachment B.

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commit any particular country.

However, there was some forward

movement on that subject at the meeting, particularly in connection
with London institutions.

Originally, the Bank of England repre

sentatives had taken the position that the responsibility to act
as lender of last resort to subsidiaries and consortium banks in
London should be assumed by the central banks of the countries in
which the parent institutions were located.

The Federal Reserve

representatives had urged instead that in the first instance the
parent institution should be responsible for helping the London
subsidiary, and that if additional assistance were needed the
Bank of England, as the host country central bank, should help
the subsidiary, and the central bank of the parent institution
should help the parent.

The Bank of England representatives then

advanced a new proposal under which the Bank would hold formal
discussions with every foreign subsidiary and consortium bank in
London, numbering perhaps 60 institutions, in which each would be
asked for a clear statement that the parent institution--in the
case of consortium banks, the various share-holding banks--would
provide assistance in the event of need.

They expected to get

positive replies, on the grounds that international banks could
not afford to walk away from their subsidiaries, but they implied

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that they might be prepared to ask some banks to withdraw if
satisfactory statements were not forthcoming.
Mr. Wallich remarked that the situation could be improved
under that procedure because the parent institutions would provide
support in dealing with problems of solvency as well as of liquidity,
whereas central banks had to limit operations as lenders of last
resort to liquidity problems.

If all went well, the program would

represent a substantial step forward.

If not, the situation would

be much as it was now; some gap, although perhaps not a very seri
ous one, would exist in the back-up facilities available to Euro
market institutions in London.,
Chairman Burns said he was not persuaded that the proposed
procedure was a great step forward.

While U.S. parent institutions

presumably would agree to provide support to their London subsid
iaries, in the event of need they themselves would turn to the
Federal Reserve for support.

Thus, the Bank of England would carry

no responsibility, even though the failure of a London subsidiary
might have repercussions throughout the British financial community.
Mr. Wallich observed that even if the Bank of England
were to agree to provide the back-up, the Bank might well have to
draw on its swap line with the Federal Reserve to obtain the dollars
needed.

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Chairman Burns expressed the view that the intermediate
step involving the Bank of England would serve a useful purpose.
Mr. Mitchell noted that in one recent case, involving the

London subsidiary of a U.S. bank, the Bank of England had cooperated
with the System in persuading the parent bank to extend the nec
essary assistance.

He thought that had been an excellent test of

the Bank's good will in resolving such problems.
Mr. Wallich agreed.

The sums involved in that case had

been relatively small, but that was likely to be true generally.
For one thing, the large institutions for the most part were
branches, and there was no question but that a U.S. bank would have
to stand behind its branches.

Moreover, the main subsidiaries were

affiliated with very large U.S. banks; if the latter had to use
a few tens of millions of dollars in a rescue operation they might
have to come to the discount window, but their over-all position
probably would not be changed a great deal.

Problems were most

likely to arise with smaller banks that had subsidiaries with
deposits of a few hundred millions, but not billions, of dollars.
To put the situation in perspective, he might note that the total
of deposits in foreign branches of U.S. banks was some $140 billion,
whereas only $11 billion was held in foreign subsidiaries of U.S.
parents, and of that only $2.6 billion was held in subsidiaries
London.

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Mr. Wallich then said he might take this opportunity to
comment on two other developments in Basle.

First, a representa

tive of the Bank of Italy had expressed unhappiness over the
decision by U.S. national bank examiners to classify loans made
by U.S. banks to borrowers in Italy in a "special mention" categorya decision which he thought had resulted in deposit losses by
Italian commercial banks.

Mr. Wallich added that the examiners'

action had in fact originated from an effort to coordinate the
treatment of Italian loans in various examining districts where
that treatment had diverged.
Chairman Burns remarked that he had been aware of the
unhappiness of the Italian authorities on that score.

While their

attitude was understandable, he believed that the deposit losses to
which they pointed were the result not of the examiners' decision
but of the cloud that had been surrounding Italian financial
markets for some time.
Mr. Wallich then observed that, as indicated in the
communique, the discussion at Basle also had been concerned with
the rules and regulations governing foreign exchange positions of
banks.

The BIS had now collected data on such regulations, as

well as on certain related subjects, for a number of major countries.
It was proposed at Basle that the various countries might attempt
to coordinate their regulations, or at least that the authorities

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in each country should carefully study the regulations of other
countries with a view to strengthening their own if they concluded
that they were too weak.

While he (Mr. Wallich) had argued against

coordination, he had suggested that contacts among examiners be
developed to improve understanding of the technical problems in
volved.

He believed that much could be learned by the examiners

of particular countries, and he hoped that mechanisms could be
worked out for exchanges of information and perhaps of personnel.
Mr. MacLaury asked whether studies also were under way of
regulations governing Euro-dollar liquidity positions--that is,
of relationships between Euro-dollar assets and liabilities.
Mr. Wallich replied affirmatively.

He noted that some

countries had rules about matching Euro-dollar maturities while
others did not.

Also, of course, there were regulations concern

ing more general liquidity relationships and capital ratios.

Some

of the continental European countries had much firmer legal guide
lines on such matters than were applied in the United States.

On

the other hand, it was his impression that the United States had
by far the best approach to bank examination in terms of the develop
ment of detailed information about the position of individual banks.
In reply to a question by Mr. Coldwell, Mr. Wallich said
the European authorities were now beginning to concern themselves

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with the question of open positions; the Germans, for example, had
just introduced a tighter rule on that subject.

The Bank of England,

which in the past had not even had a bank examination

department,

had recently established such a department.
Chairman Burns noted that the Federal Reserve staff had
been asked to study the possible need for legislation or regulation
governing the degree of foreign exchange exposure of individual
commercial banks.
The Chairman then asked whether Mr. Coombs had any recom
mendations for the Committee.
Mr. Coombs said he would recommend renewal, if necessary,
of two System swap drawings on the National Bank of Belgium,
totaling $31.8 million, that would mature on October 18 and 25,
respectively.

Because that swap line had been in continuous

use for more than a year, express authorization by the Committee
was required if the drawings were to be renewed.

It might, how

ever, prove possible to purchase the francs needed to repay the
debt before the drawings matured.
Mr. Mitchell asked whether it would be agreeable with
the U.S. Treasury for the System to make such purchases of
francs.

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Mr. Coombs expressed the view that the Treasury would not
object to the System's accumulating Belgian francs in its balances
for possible subsequent use in repaying debt.

However, the exchange

rate for the franc was now only about 2 per cent above the central
rate.

He would be inclined to postpone purchases of francs until

the rate had declined to the central rate, which might well happen
within the next week or two.
In reply to a question by Mr. Holland, Mr. Coombs said his
main reason for wanting to defer purchases of Belgian francs was
to avoid the need for a potentially futile debate with the Belgians
about sharing losses on System repayments.

As the members knew,

the Treasury had introduced the question of loss-sharing in con
nection with System repayments on both its Belgian and Swiss franc
swap debts, but no final agreement on the matter had been reached
as yet with the Belgians.

The issue would not arise if the francs

needed were acquired at the central rate.
Mr. Holland said he would favor making strong represen
tations to the Treasury that the System should repay all of its
outstanding debt to the Belgians even if no loss-sharing arrange
ment had been negotiated.

In his judgment the advantage sought

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through loss-sharing, in terms of saving money for the United
States, was far outweighted by the disadvantage of permitting a
3-year old debt to remain on the System's books any longerparticularly at a time when the System was preaching the impor
tance of good credit practice to others.
Mr. Coombs observed that the Swiss, who had already
agreed in principle to a loss-sharing arrangement in connection
with System repayments on its Swiss franc swap debt, might well
be disturbed if the System incurred losses on its Belgian franc
debt without pressing for an equivalent arrangement.
In reply to a question by Mr. Sheehan, Mr. Coombs said
the System's total swap debt to the Belgians was $262 million at
the moment.

Negotiations currently were under way to write up

the amount to $316 million, to reflect the devaluations of the
dollar of December 1971 and February 1973.
Mr. Wallich remarked that he reluctantly supported
Mr. Coombs' position.

Earlier, he had felt that the System

should repay its debt to the Belgians even without an agreement
on loss sharing, since it was continually reminding its swap
partners of the short-term nature of drawings on the swap network.
However, in light of the considerations Mr.

Coombs had mentioned,

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and in light of the distance already covered in the discussion
of loss sharing, he now believed that an effort should be made to
avoid a loss on repayments of the debt to the Belgians.
Chairman Burns suggested that the Committee defer further
consideration of the question Mr. Holland had raised for a brief
period, to see whether Mr. Coombs' hopes about movements in the
Belgian franc exchange rate were realized.
Mr. Mitchell proposed that the question be deferred until
the next meeting.
Mr. Holland said he would be prepared to accept such a
postponement.

He planned to press the issue at the time of the

next meeting if it had not been resolved by then.
The Chairman remarked that Mr. Holland could expect
support from other members in that event.
By unanimous vote, renewal
for further periods of 3 months
of two System drawings on the
National Bank of Belgium, ma
turing on October 15 and 18, 1974,
respectively, was authorized.
Mr. Holland then said he would like to raise another
question in connection with the System's swap debt to the Belgians.
He understood that the FOMC Subcommittee, to which the full Com
mittee had delegated authority to resolve problems relating to

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the terms of repayment of that debt, had recently decided not
to ask the Treasury to use some of its SDR's if necessary to
obtain the francs required to liquidate the debt, in accordance
with the terms of a 1968 letter from Treasury Secretary Fowler
to Chairman Martin.

He thought it would be desirable for the

full Committee to be informed at some stage of the reasons
underlying that decision.
Mr. Mitchell suggested that that matter be scheduled
for discussion by the Committee at its next meeting.
There was general agreement with that suggestion.
Chairman Burns then called for the Committee's discus
sion of monetary policy and the directive, and he suggested that
the members address themselves to three questions.

They might

consider, without regard to the particular role of monetary policy,
what might be the desirable course of economic activity over the
next 6 to 9 months--whether, in the present circumstances, it
would be better if activity remained near the current level, with
any further decline held in check, or whether it would be better
if activity revived promptly and recovered significantly.

Secondly,

the members might comment on the Committee's longer-run targets
for the aggregates, focusing on M1 for the sake of simplicity.

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The blue book presented three alternatives: an annual rate of
5-1/4 per cent--the rate that had been adopted at the last three
meetings--and rates of 5-3/4 and 6-1/2 per cent.

Finally, the

members might express their preferences with respect to the
short-run specifications and the language of the directive.
The Chairman added that earlier in the day the Board had
turned down one Reserve Bank's application to reduce the discount
rate from 8 to 7-3/4 per cent.

The Board had taken that action

because the discount rate was well below market interest rates
and because a reduction at this time would be an excessively
strong policy signal.
Mr. Hayes observed that he was acutely aware of the growing
demands that the System relax its policy stance to some degree, but
he thought it would be a serious mistake to yield to those demands.
First, inflation was real and immediate, and inflationary expecta
tions continued unabated, whereas unemployment--though expected to
reach higher levels next year--was still rather low.

Second, the

probabilities favored a prolonged period of little or no growth but
not a severe recession.
that a relatively

Third, the Committee had long recognized

extended period of monetary restraint would be

needed to bring substantial progress against inflation.

Fourth, fiscal

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restraint was not yet by any means assured, and a relaxation of
monetary policy in advance of its realization could be taken as an
implied reduction in the need for fiscal restraint.

Fifth, from

a global standpoint, inflation was still a greater problem than
the risk of recession, and success in combatting inflation in this
country would have world-wide benefits.

Sixth, to the extent that

liquidity problems existed, they could and should be dealt with
through specific measures rather than a broad shift in monetary
policy.

Seventh, the market was all too likely to seize upon any

modest easing move as the beginning of a major policy change.

Such over-reaction had occurred several times in the past year,
and it would be desirable to avoid another such occurrence.

The

market had already shown some tendency to react in that way to
recent developments, including the removal of the marginal reserve
requirement on large time deposits maturing in 4 months or more,
although the reaction had been modest.
Against that background, Mr. Hayes continued, he would
rather see economic activity remain near its current level than
turn up sharply.

With respect to the longer-run targets, he would

retain a 5-1/4 per cent rate for M1, as under alternative C. To raise
the target to 5-3/4 per cent, in accordance with alternative B, would
signifya clear easing of policy in terms of an immediate decline in the

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Federal funds rate and in other market interest rates, and that
would not be appropriate.

Maintenance of the 5-1/4 per cent rate

would not be too restrictive.

In the event that the economy proved

to be weaker than he now expected, the growth in the money supply
automatically would become more accommodating than it now appeared,
and the rate of monetary growth would not need to be much more than
5-1/4 per cent.

Even the more pessimistic projections suggested that

pronounced weakness in activity was several quarters ahead, and there
fore, there would be time to consider the necessity of changing the
longer-run targets.
Consequently, Mr. Hayes concluded, he was in favor of main
taining about the current policy of firm restraint.

The slowdown

of growth in the monetary aggregates over the past 2 months was
all to the good, and he was satisfied with the projections of
monetary growth based on the current levels of short-term interest
rates.

In the event that other economic policies were directed

more toward restraining inflation, as would be desirable, his views
on monetary policy might change.

Accordingly, he favored alterna

tive C, although he could be persuaded to shade downward a little the
10-3/4 to 12-3/4 per cent range for the funds rate shown under that
alternative.

Concerning the discount rate, it was wise not to make

a change in the present circumstances.

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Mr. Mayo remarked that everyone would like to see an upturn
in economic activity over the next 6 to 9 months.

However, the

Committee had no real alternative but to pursue a policy that main
tained a restrictive stance against inflation.

Consequently, he

believed that over the 6- to 9-month period it would be better if
economic activity remained near the current level.

The Committee

did have a responsibility to check any further declines in activity,
and perhaps of even greater importance, it had a responsibility
with respect to the liquidity situation.

Many bankers in his

District were saying that they could get through this period basi
cally unscathed, but they were fearful that many of their customers
could not--that many businesses could not bear the currently high
interest rates for more than a limited period.
Accordingly, Mr. Mayo said, he favored alternative B.

That

alternative represented a policy that was still very restrictive,
but one that allowed for some shading downward of the Federal funds
rate.

A very slight easing--accomplished very delicately--was

desirable, and the alternative B range of 10 to 12 per cent for
the funds rate was appropriate.

The Manager should be instructed

to take advantage of easing tendencies in the market and to avoid
reversing those tendencies to the extent that had been felt necessary
during the past month.
run target for M1

He had no objection to raising the longer

to 5-3/4 per cent.

As he interpreted the record,

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the Committee in reality had been pursuing a 5-3/4 per cent growth
path since January 1974,
the fact.

and it would be desirable to acknowledge

The pursuit of such a rate of growth would not constitute

a ratification of inflation.

Concerning the discount rate, he would

not recommend a change in the present circumstances.

To reduce the

discount rate when it was already so out of touch with market rates
would merely emphasize that it was not a useful policy instrument
at present.

But to the extent that a reduction did have an announce

ment effect, it would be an improper one at this time.
Mr. Coldwell commented that in his judgment at this time a
major depression in this country was unlikely.

However, he was con

cerned about the possibility of additional recessionary pressures and
believed that it would be desirable if further declines in economic activ
ity

were stemmed.

He would prefer economic activity to remain near its

current level for about 3 months--not for as long as 6 to 9 monthsand then to start on a course of real improvement.

Inflation was

still the biggest problem, and it was with respect to that problem
that monetary policy could make its greatest contribution.

Thus,

he would not be inclined to rush away from a policy of restraint
at the first signs that it was having an effect; he would prefer a
delicate move toward ease, following market rates down if they were
inclined in that direction.

Monetary growth had not fallen short

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of the targets he had had in mind, and consequently, he saw no
need to endeavor to make up shortfalls.
Since he preferred to maintain a fairly taut position,
Mr. Coldwell said, he favored specifications between those of alterna
tive B and C--includinga longer-run target of 5-1/2 per cent for M1
and short-run ranges of tolerance of 3 to 5 per cent for M1 and 10-1/2 to
12-1/2 per cent for the Federal funds rate.

He could accept the

language of either alternative B or C, although he would prefer
an amended version of alternative C that would read "the Committee
seeks to maintain stability in bank reserves and money market con
ditions consistent with modest growth in monetary aggregates."
Regarding the discount rate, he believed that the Board's action
in disapproving the application for a reduction was appropriate;
a reduction at this time would have been inappropriate both because
the rate was so much below market rates and because the announce
ment effects would have been excessively strong.
Mr. Francis observed that no matter what course of economic
activity Committee members might wish to see, a move toward ease in
monetary policy over the next quarter or two was likely to increase
inflationary pressures rather than to stimulate a significant gain
in production.

If the Committee maintained the longer-run target

for monetary growth that it had been pursuing, in time economic

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activity would turn up.

Consequently, he preferred the longer-run

monetary growth of alternative B for the balance of this year, but
in the first quarter of next year, he would prefer the target of
alternative C.

He could accept the language of alternative B.

Mr. Eastburn commented, with respect to the Chairman's
first question, that he preferred to see economic activity remain
near its current level for a period of time, that the only way the
Committee could achieve its objective of getting inflation under
control was to maintain a relatively slow rate of growth in
activity.

A period of 6 to 9 months of little or no growth might

be too long, but a judgment about that could be made later on.

He

would feel more comfortable with his position if there were some
assurance that the Administration would take such actions as provid
ing employer-of-last-resort facilities and liberalizing unemploy
ment compensation.
Mr. Eastburn remarked that the Committee had been endeavor
ing to reduce the rate of monetary growth and that it needed to
maintain its focus on the longer-term goals.

That did not mean,

however, that the rate ought to be reduced inexorably until infla
tion was conquered or, alternatively, that it should be increased
precipitously as soon as economic growth slowed.
target was an M1

In general, his

growth rate between 5-1/2 and 6 per cent, but the

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decision concerning the appropriate rate for the next 7 months
involved some complications.

With that decision in mind, he had

distributed a chart of money supply target paths, which he had
found useful.1/
Continuing, Mr. Eastburn said the long solid

line on

the chart showed a steady 5-3/4 per cent growth path throughout
1974 and the first quarter of 1975.

The upper dashed line on

the chart represented the 5-1/4 per cent growth rate from June
to December of this year, which the Committee had adopted at the
July meeting; that rate implied M1 growth of 6.2 per cent from
December 1973 to December 1974.

By the time of the August meeting,

the money supply data had been revised downward, with the result
that the 5-1/4 per cent path adopted in August implied--as shown
in the chart--growth of about 5-3/4 per cent in 1974; in terms of
the actual level of M1, the August decision
ing of policy.

represented a tighten

The lowest line on the chart showed the 6-1/4 per cent

rate of growth that M would have to follow from the August base
through March 1975 if a 5-3/4 per cent rate were to be achieved for
the whole period from December 1973 to March 1975.

Thus, a 6-1/4

per cent growth rate would be required over the 7 months from August
1/ The chart is appended to this memorandum as Attachment C.

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to restore M1

growth to the

5-1/2 to 6 per cent range that he

preferred.
Mr. Eastburn said the analysis would lead him to favor
alternative A, because it called for a 7-month growth rate of
6-1/4 per cent.

However, such a shift in the longer-run target

at this time would imply a more drastic change in money market con
ditions than he desired.

Therefore, he would recommend a target

of 6 per cent, which was part way between alternatives A and B.
He would specify the funds rate range of alternative B, with the
understanding that the rate would be moved down gradually within
the range.

The language of alternative B was acceptable.

Chairman Burns remarked that he might make a few general
comments at this point.

With regard to the first question he had

put to the Committee, he would not wish to see a prompt recovery
in economic activity.

If recovery began promptly, economic activity

would turn up at a time when inflation was continuing at a two-digit
rate.

The result--if business cycle history was any guide--would

be an acceleration in the rate of inflation in the months immediately
ahead.

At the same time, he believed that somewhat lower interest

rates had become appropriate and truly desirable in view of the
tensions existing in financial markets and of the dangerously
depressed conditions in the stock exchanges.

And if the staff

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analysis was correct, somewhat lower interest rates were consistent
with moderate rates of growth in the monetary aggregates in the
period ahead,
Mr. Kimbrel commented that he agreed with what the Chairman
had just said.

The public was beginning to be convinced of the

System's determination to fight inflation, and he would hate to
see any actions now that would be interpreted as a significant
easing and that could be mistakenly taken to mean that the System
already anticipated success in its efforts.

The result of such

actions might well be that the System would fail to accomplish its
objectives, especially since the support of fiscal policy still
was so uncertain.

At the same time, he would be distressed to see

any further decline in the economy; he hoped that activity would
remain close to its present level.

Toward that end, he would favor

a longer-run M1,,
target of 5-1/2 per cent, which was mid-way between
alternatives B and C. Otherwise, he favored alternative B, except
that he would not want the funds rate to decline by more than one
percentage point between now and the next meeting and would not
object if it moved up for a short period.

Accordingly, he would

specify a somewhat higher and narrower range for the funds rate
than shown under alternative B--namely, a range of 10-3/4 to
12-1/4 per cent.

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The Chairman then asked Mr. Gramley for his policy
recommendations.
Mr. Gramley observed that the staff projections of GNP
were based on the longer-run path of monetary growth of alterna
tive B, and those projections suggested that economic activity
would decline significantly in the period through the second quarter
of 1975.

In his

judgment, the risk of error in the projections

was on the side of underestimating the degree of weakness ahead.
Therefore, he believed that the time had come to make a rather
significant move toward easing monetary policy.

He would not be

concerned that the financial and business communities might infer
that the System had given up the fight against inflation, because
he believed that such an inference would be drawn only if the System
acted in a manner that seriously threatened a rejuvenation of infla
tionary forces.

An easing of policy along the lines of alterna

tive A would not create such a threat and would not lead to mis
interpretations of the System's policy stance.
Mr. Wallich remarked that economic developments--apart from
financial market developments--in the period immediately ahead had
already been largely determined by past actions of the System, and
that policy actions in the immediate future would influence the
course of economic activity early next year, perhaps in the spring.

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He would like

to see a slow rise in real GNP, more or less

maintaining a constant per capita real GNP, which would mean an
annual rate of growth on the order of 2 per cent.

The rate of

unemployment would rise, but the rise would not be so fast that
the System would be subjected to pressures to reverse policy
completely.

There was a certain amount of slack in the economy

that could be tolerated, and it would be desirable to spread it
over a period of time; in other words, the country might tolerate
a greater aggregate loss of manhours under a policy that resulted
in moderate unemployment over time than it would under a very
restrictive policy that quickly generated much higher unemployment.
There was a danger now that unemployment would rise sharply, and
it was surprising that the rise had not already been greater.
Continuing, Mr. Wallich said he favored a policy for the
period ahead that would bring about an upturn in real GNP by some
time early next year but that at the same time would avoid the
typical recovery in which actual output rose more rapidly than
That would

potential output and the rate of unemployment declined.
lead him to choose either alternative A or alternative B.

Because

of the high rate of inflation, the Committee ought to modify its
longer-run target somewhat to take account of some part--but by
no means all--of the rate of increase in prices.

At the same time,

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it was critical to avoid a decline in the Federal funds rate to an
extent that would give a false signal.

If people inferred that the

System had changed its policy completely, control of the situation
would have been lost.

Consequently, he would accept alternative B,

with a 10 to 12 per cent short-run range of tolerance for the funds
rate, although he would prefer a slightly faster rate of monetary
growth than specified under that alternative.
Chairman Burns commented that it was extremely important
to avoid giving a false signal, and for that reason, he would prefer
a funds rate range of 10-1/2 to 12 per cent to one of 10 to 12
per cent, as indicated under alternative B.

The mid-point--ll-l/4

per cent--then would be 3/4 of a percentage point below the
mid-point of the range adopted at the last meeting.
Mr. Sheehan remarked that he was in general agreement with
Mr. Wallich's conclusions.

He would hope that economic activity

would remain near the current reduced level--or, ideally, decline
another 1 per cent--until about the middle of next year and then
turn up and expand at a rate not above 2 per cent for an indefinite
period.

He held that position because inflation was intensifying,

rather than abating, and he was not convinced that the rise in the
GNP implicit deflator would be down to a 7 per cent annual rate by
the middle of next year, as suggested by the staff projections.

He

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could accept an increase in the unemployment rate into a range
of 6-1/2 to 7 per cent by the middle of next summer and hoped that
that would not generate severe pressures to ease policy dramatically.
Being more pessimistic about the economic situation than many other
members of the Committee, he felt that the greatest hazard concern
ing the present stance of monetary policy was that the decline in
economic activity would go too far over the next 3 to 6 months, and
that it would create strong pressures for substantially easier
monetary and fiscal policies, thereby undoing what had already been
accomplished with considerable pain.
For the period until the next meeting, Mr. Sheehan said,
his conclusion with respect to the Federal funds rate was the same
as the Chairman's.

Too often in the past, the System had shifted

abruptly between fighting inflation and fighting recession and
unemployment, and now he would prefer to see a more gradual easing.
The funds rate had declined about 200 basis points since mid-July,
and he would prefer that it continue to decline at about that pace.
If it declined another 3/4 of a point to a little over 11 per cent
by the time of the next meeting and then another 3/4 of a point in
the following inter-meeting period, a gradual easing might be
accomplished without precipitating a rapid decline in other market
interest rates.

For the longer-run M1 target, he preferred a rate

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of 6 per cent to the 5-3/4 per cent shown under alternative B;
in general, he would shade the alternative B specifications for the
aggregates in the direction of alternative A, but he did not feel
the need to argue for that at this time.
Chairman Burns remarked that everyone knew the President's
objectives for total Federal expenditures, but experience had shown
that there could be a wide gap between the amount sought and the
amount actually spent.

With respect to the unemployment problem,

the President almost certainly would ask for a contingency plan
that would call for a sizable increase in public service employment
in the event of a rise in the unemployment rate beyond a certain
point.

The particular details of the plan were under discussion

at present, and he would guess that 6 per cent would be the rate
that would bring the expanded program into operation.
Mr. Holland said the economy clearly was changing in
important ways--that cross-currents were at work and an adjustment
was underway. Although painful, the adjustment was necessary; it
might have to continue over a span of years in order to restore
reasonable stability of prices, and that had to be taken into
account in the formulation of monetary policy.

With respect to

the course of economic activity, therefore, the most that one
should seek was a shift to modest increases in real GNP after the

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spring of 1975.
was unlikely.

Although an earlier upturn would be welcome, it
In fact, he was not altogether confident that an

upturn would occur immediately after the spring without some
stimulus from policies other than monetary policy.
Mr. Holland observed that, given the long-term nature of
the current problem, he would favor a policy of continued monetary
and credit firmness for another month or two--in order that mone
tary policy's dampening effect on demands for goods and services
be continued a little longer.

In the present circumstances, how

ever, holding the Federal funds rate at its current level was not
consistent with maintenance of the existing degree of monetary re
straint but rather would permit an undesirable further cumulation of
grinding pressure of credit tightening already spreading through the
financial system.
aggregates--M,

Similarly, continuation of growth in the monetary

in particular--at the low pace of the last few

months would not constitute a steady policy but would involve an
undesirable intensification of pressures.
Consequently, Mr. Holland continued, he favored the
language and specifications of alternative B, although he would
prefer a longer-run target for M1 of 5-1/2 rather than 5-3/4 per cent
because he thought that the demand for money would not rebound as
strongly in the autumn as suggested by the staff projections.

In

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his judgment, a 5-1/2 per cent rate of growth over the next two
quarters would be consistent with the over-all monetary and credit
conditions that he favored.

Also, he would specify a short-run

range of tolerance for M1 of 3 to 5-1/2 per cent--rather than 3-1/4
to 5-1/4 per cent, as shown under alternative B--in part because
specifications in terms of quarters of percentage points suggested
more precision in the control of the aggregates than the System
could in fact exercise.

Wishing to avoid giving a signal of an

overt and large change in policy, he favored the 10-1/2 to 12 per
cent range for the funds rate that had been suggested by the Chairman.
In the event that growth in the aggregates in the September-October
period appeared to be weaker than projected and the funds rate was
pressing against the lower limit of its range without producing
satisfactory results,

the Chairman could consult with the Committee.

In the present circumstances, Mr. Holland observed, it would
not be appropriate to hold the funds rate at its current level until
such time as growth in the aggregates appeared to be at one or the
other extreme of their ranges.

Rather, the Desk should move the

funds rate down gradually to about 11 per cent by the time of the
next meeting, unless the aggregates appeared to be growingat rates close
to either of the specified limits.

Such action would produce some

desirable side-effects in terms of a little lessening of tensions in
financial markets and in terms of the System's public relations.

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Mr. Bucher commented that he was encouraged to learn that
the Administration almost certainly would propose an expanded
public employment program.

However, the staff projection already

incorporated an assumption of an expanded program, and the pro
jected rate of unemployment nevertheless rose above 7 per cent
in the second half of 1975.
Chairman Burns remarked that the staff projection also
incorporated an assumption of Federal expenditures for fiscal 1975
of just under $300 billion on a unified budget basis.

If circum

stances developed that would bring the expanded public service
employment program into operation, total expenditures would
undoubtedly exceed $300 billion by some amount.
Continuing, Mr. Bucher said he shared the concern about
developments in the debt and equity markets, particularly because
of the effects of those developments on the ability of business
to finance plant and equipment expenditures and thereby to improve
the supply situation--which was one aspect of the inflation problem
that warranted more attention.

However, he would not want to see

real GNP decline continuously through the second quarter of 1975,
or the unemployment rate rise to more than 7 per cent in the
second half of that year--outcomes the staff anticipated if the
Committee adopted the alternative B specifications.

He also was

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dissatisfied with the projected rate of increase in prices, but
he viewed the fight against inflation--which he supported--as a
longer-term problem.

He disagreed with the position that monetary

policy had been a major cause of the inflation.

In his view, the

staff projections were beginning to suggest that the price--in
terms of foregone output and employment--that would be paid for
not having a little more patience in dealing with inflation was
too high.
Mr. Bucher said he realized that nothing could be done at
this point to avoid a further decline in economic activity over
the next few months.

He also agreed that the Committee should be

gradual in its policy moves--he was a long standing believer in
gradualism--and that it should not signal a major change at this
point.

Accordingly, he was willing to follow the course of just

trying to stem any further declines in real GNP for a while.

How

ever, he would want growth in real GNP to resume sooner than the
staff suggested it would under alternative B.
Mr. Bucher remarked that he had been uncomfortable with
the degree of monetary tightness reached a few months ago, and he
had viewed the subsequent gradual lessening of restraint as appro
priate.

He would like to continue on that course now.

He could

accept the longer-run target of 5-3/4 per cent for M1 specified

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under alternative B, but otherwise, he preferred specifications
between those of alternatives A and B.
upper limit for the M
1

Thus, he preferred an

range over the September-October period

somewhat above the 5-1/4 per cent of alternative B, and he favored
a Federal funds rate range of 10 to 12 per cent or even 9-3/4 to
12 per cent.

In his judgment, a decline in the funds rate below

10-1/2 per cent would not cause a major over-reaction, provided
the decline was managed gradually and carefully and was allowed
to occur more or less in response to market forces.

The language

of alternative B was acceptable.
Chairman Burns remarked that the decline in economic
activity this year was not due fundamentally to monetary policy
or to any other Government policies.

Rather, it was a result of

the corrective forces released by the inflationary boom that had
been going on in this country for the past 10 years.

Inflation

had caused the decline in real GNP, in real income of the working
man, and in purchases of big-ticket items; inflation had caused
the erosion in profits, the rise in interest rates to extraordi
narily high levels, the weakness in the bond markets, and the price
declines in the stock exchanges.
times neglected.

That important truth was some

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Mr. Mitchell commented that he agreed with the Chairman's
remarks, but one also had to ask what had caused the inflation.
It was the interaction between the consequences and the causes of
inflation that made the problem so difficult for the Committee.
Mr. Black observed that in considering the policy issue
four considerations were foremost in his mind:

(1) the recent

slowing of growth in M , which he believed would be more per
sistent than the staff seemed to think; (2) the shaky condition
of financial markets and business and consumer uncertainty
about the future;

(3) the deterioration in business conditions

since the Committee's last meeting; and (4) the continuance of
inflation as the major problem.
Continuing, Mr. Black commented

that he would not want

to see a quick revival in economic activity, for the reasons that
had been suggested

by the Chairman.

It would be preferable if

activity remained close to current levels for a time, and in any
case--as Mr. Holland had suggested--probably the most one could
hope for was an upturn in real GNP after the spring of 1975.

For

the longer-run M1 target, he favored a rate of 5-1/2 per cent,
believing that 5-1/2 most likely was as high a rate as could be
achieved with the degree of change in interest rates that would

be tolerable.

While he agreed with Mr. Francis that growth in M1

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at a 5-3/4 per cent rate throughout the remainder of the year and
then at a 5-1/2 per cent rate would be desirable, he doubted that
the System could achieve that sort of fine tuning.
Mr. Black said he would accept the 2-month specifications
for the aggregates shown under alternative B and the funds rate
range that had been suggested by the Chairman.

Like Mr. Holland,

he believed that the Desk should move the funds rate down graduallyperhaps even below 11 per cent, if market forces worked in that
direction and growth in the aggregates did not show unexpected
strength--because it would be undesirable for the slow rate of
monetary growth to persist into the fourth quarter.

Concerning the

discount rate, he agreed with the Board's action in disapproving the
reduction for the reasons that had been cited.

Mr. MacLaury remarked that the chances of stimulating a
prompt revival in economic activity, even if desired, were so
that he did not consider it a genuine alternative.

low

Most would

agree, he thought, that it would be desirable to attempt to stem
any further decline in activity.

The slowdown in monetary growth

since June could not be ignored; he was prepared to believe that
it reflected some fundamental causes and that a rebound in the
fourth quarter of the year was most uncertain.

Thus, he agreed

with Mr. Gramley's policy prescription and with his rationale for
it in terms of economic prospects.

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Mr. MacLaury observed that in the present situation of
weakening economic activity, Committee members appeared to define
a policy change in terms of the behavior of interest rates rather
than growth of the monetary aggregates.

Even in terms of the

aggregates, moreover, members seemed to describe an adjustment
in the longer-term M1 target upward from 5-1/4 per cent as a
change in policy, and yet--as Mr. Eastburn's analysis indicatedthe 5-1/4 per cent rate adopted at the August meeting implied
growth of 5-3/4 per cent over the whole of this year; now, a
6-1/4 per cent growth rate from the August base to March 1975
would be required in order to return M1 to a 5-3/4 per cent growth
path.

He continued to favor growth of 5-3/4 per cent for this year

and, consequently, would accept a longer-run target of 6-1/4 per cent.
Given the recent deterioration in the economic outlook, one could
make a case for
growth.

a change in policy to a higher rate of monetary

In terms of growth rates based on quarterly average levels-

which he believed was the more appropriate basis--Appendix Table IV
of the blue book indicated that the 6-1/2 per cent longer-term
growth rate of alternative A involved rates of 5.7 and 5.9 per cent
in the fourth and first quarters, respectively, rather than the
rates of 7.1 and 7.0 per cent calculated on the basis of last months
quarters.

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Since he favored a 6-1/4 per cent longer-run M1 target,
Mr. MacLaury said, he generally preferred specifications closer to
those of alternative A than of alternative B, except for the Federal
funds rate.

He shared the common view that the Committee should

be careful to avoid giving a false signal to the financial markets,
and therefore, he would be content with the funds rate range of 10
to 12 per cent specified under alternative B.

Concerning the dis

count rate, it was conceivable that an increase, to bring the rate
closer into alignment with market rates, at some time during the 5
week interval until the next meeting might counteract any signals
that the financial markets might otherwise see in a further decline
in the funds rate.
Mr. Balles remarked that the kind of demand stimulus needed
to bring about a prompt revival in economic activity would preclude
the successful pursuit of a policy that would substantially reduce
inflation from the two-digit rate now prevailing.

In his view, it

would be premature at this time to back down from the course of
moderate monetary restraint that the Committee had been following.
The clamor of voices calling for an easing in System policy--such as
was heard in the recent sub-summit meeting of economists with the
President--had been expected in response to the maintenance of
monetary restraint.

In a meeting at the San Francisco Bank 3 days

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earlier--attended by Senator Cranston, Sherman Maisel, George L.
Bach, and other economists and businessmen--almost everyone had
called for the System to ease policy.

Eventually, however, Bach

pointed out that a year ago most economists were telling the
System that policy had been too expansive and that monetary growth
needed to be slowed down; now that the System had succeeded in doing
that for a few months, the same people were calling for policy to
be eased.
Mr. Balles observed that because of the cross-currents and
the disequilibria that the Chairman had noted, less than the usual
degree of reliance could be placed on forecasts.

The staff's view

of the outlook might prove to be correct, although he hoped it would
not, but what had not been fully spelled out was the terrible price
that would be paid if inflation was not brought under control.

He

was prepared to accept sluggish economic growth for 6 to 9 months,
if necessary, because he believed that failing to bring inflation
under control was far more costly to the foundations of our society.
Mr. Balles said he favored a longer-run M1 target of about
5-1/2 per cent.

Whether the adopted target was 5-1/2 or 5-3/4 per

cent, however, it was important to raise monetary growth from the
low rate of the past 3 months up to about the rates that the Committee
had anticipated; unfortunately, the market would not know whether to

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interpret a 4 per cent rate of growth in M1 --as was now projected
for the third quarter--as a result of Committee policy or of an
accident.

In the weeks ahead, the Committee would have a great

opportunity to lower interest rates, while holding growth in the
aggregates within acceptable ranges.

Accordingly, he would not

be reluctant to see the Federal funds rate decline to 10 per cent,
and he would be a little bolder that those who had called for
moving the rate down gradually--as long as growth in the aggre
gates, and particularly in M1, remained close to the 5-1/2 per cent
longer-run target.

He agreed with the remarks of others concerning

the cumulative effects of the maintenance of the current levels of
interest rates along with the slow rate of monetary growth.

Alto

gether, he favored the short-term specifications of alternative B,
including especially the 10 per cent lower limit of the range for
the funds rate.
Mr. Morris remarked that he would like to urge the Board
to be prepared to reduce reserve requirements this fall.

In his

view, the System needed to have a long-term strategy to take
advantage of opportunities to lower the cost of being a member
of the System.

To reduce reserve requirements, two conditions

had to be present:

a need to supply a substantial amount of

reserves, and a willingness to give the market a policy signal.

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Both of those conditions were likely to be present in the fall,
and the opportunity should not be lost.
Continuing, Mr. Morris observed that the most desirable
course of economic activity--if policy could be fine-tunedwould be one that moved the unemployment rate up to 6 per cent
and held it there for the next 2 years.

The American people now

would be willing to accept a 6 per cent rate as a cost of combatting
inflation.

More slack than that would not make much of a contribu

tion toward achieving price stability, and it would run the risk
of generating political forces in favor of efforts to reduce the
level of unemployment--efforts which might then result in the more
typical rapid recovery in activity.

It would be better

to pursue

a policy of restraint that could be maintained for a while.
Mr. Morris commented that for the period through the first
quarter of 1975 he would support the 5-3/4 per cent longer-run
target for M1 of alternative B, even though the staff projections
suggested that it would result in an unemployment rate above 6 per
cent.

It was especially important, however, that growth not con

tinue to fall short of that rate, because the recent rate of growth
was unacceptably low.

Thus, he would accept the alternative B

range of 10 to 12 per cent for the funds rate, and would instruct
the Desk to move the rate down to 11 per cent within the next 10

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days and to be prepared to move it down further if it appeared
that growth in the aggregates would remain slow.

The market was

not likely to misjudge the significance of such a decline in the
funds rate in the circumstances of sluggish growth in the aggre
gates; any reaction in the money market was likely to be short
lived.

In any case, for years the System had given too much

weight to the fear of excessive market reactions to its actions.
The Committee should take the actions that the members thought
were desirable, and if market professionals made misjudgments,
they would have to pay the price.
Mr. Clay observed that the most pressing problem continued
to be the accelerating rate of inflation.

The present policy of

restraint had to be continued until there were some indications
of progress in combatting inflation, or the fight would be lost.
Such indications, when they appeared, would do a great deal to
stimulate business activity and to improve conditions in the
financial and stock markets.

Therefore, it would be desirable

for economic activity to remain close to the current level.

He

hoped that prompt action would be taken to stem an actual, but
not a prospective, decline in activity.
Mr. Clay said he did not fully understand the reasons for
the shortfall in M1 growth in the recent period, but it might be

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significant that growth in the other aggregates had been closer
to expected rates.

In the period immediately ahead, growth in

most of the aggregates was likely to be strong, as businesses
borrowed to meet liquidity needs and to speculate on inventories.
Demands for funds also would be strong in the capital markets,
reflecting business needs to finance plant and equipment spend
ing and Federal agency needs.

However, growth in M1 was likely

to be restrained, as individuals and businesses sought to minimize
holdings of non-interest earning balances.

In any case, he hoped

the System would have more success in achieving its targets for
growth in the monetary aggregates in coming months than it had
experienced since June.

For the period ahead, he favored a slight

easing, with any move in that direction carried out very gradually
so as to avoid interpretations that the System had given up the
fight against inflation.

Accordingly, he favored the specifica

tions of alternative B, shaded very slightly toward those of
alternative A.
Mr. Winn remarked that the problems of inflation were
foremost among the concerns of the people.

The System's goal

should be to make its contribution to the maximum growth in output
consistent with stable prices, and in the present circumstances,
the pursuit of stable prices implied continuation of economic
activity at about the present level for a period of time.

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Mr. Winn observed that the behavior of the monetary
aggregates and its impact on economic activity might be different
now from a few years ago, because of such developments as individ
uals' placement of funds in marketable Treasury securities instead
of savings accounts, corporations' efforts to minimize cash balances,
and the tremendous growth of CD's.

Perhaps something could be

learned from the experience in Canada, where the economy had been
able to accommodate an interest rate structure that was substan
tially higher than that in the United States.
Because of the uncertainty in interpreting the behavior
of the aggregates, Mr. Winn said,he would not wish to emphasize
any one over the others.

In the longer run, he would not be

unhappy if growth in the aggregates fell within the over-all ranges
encompassed by the three alternatives; he would be concerned if
growth rates fell outside those ranges, as had occurred in the past.
His feeling about the short-run targets was the same, and he would
like to think that the Committee could hold another meeting before
the one scheduled for mid-October in the event that the aggregates
appeared to be growing at rates outside those ranges.

With respect

to the funds rate, he believed that a substantial decline in a
relatively short period would be widely misinterpreted and would
lead to an inflationary burst that would only create more severe

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problems in the future.

Therefore, he would prefer to ease the

rate down gradually within a range of 10-1/2 to 12-1/4 per cent
while carefully monitoring the behavior of the aggregates.

Growth

in the aggregates should not be permitted to drag; neither should
it be excessive, as it was a few years ago when the System faced
a similar problem.

If the money supply were to grow at a 10 per

cent rate this autumn, the System's credibility would be completely
lost.
Mr. Mitchell remarked that he shared Mr. Gramley's appre
hension concerning the future course of economic activity.
also agreed with Mr. Wallich's view

He

concerning the lags between

changes in monetary policy and their effects; the course

of

activity was already determined at least for 3 months, probably
for 6 months, and perhaps for as much as 9 months.

To generate

an upturn in residential construction, for example, the outflow
of funds from the thrift institutions first had to be reversed;
it would then take time before the institutions would be will
ing to make commitments, and still more time before builders would
undertake new housing starts.

In many other areas as well, a sub

stantial amount of time would be required to revitalize activity.
Mr. Mitchell said he felt considerable uncertainty about
the policy that would be appropriate in the present circumstances.

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The Board's model and other systematic approaches to the issue
were based on historical experience that did not include some
of the elements that were causing the present problem.

Never

theless, he thought that in looking back at this period it would
be desirable

to be able to demonstrate that the Federal funds

rate had been trending downward; he would like to be able to say
that, measured by the change in the funds rate, the System had
been gradually shifting its policy.
growth in M1

He was less concerned about

which would fall below 6 per cent for the year

except in the unlikely event that M
1

grew at an annual rate of

about 8 per cent over the balance of the year.

Accordingly, he

would place major emphasis on a downtrend in the funds rate, and
would not be disturbed if the rate moved down to, or somewhat
under, 11 per cent.
Chairman Burns said he believed, on the basis of the
discussion, that he could suggest a set of specifications that
would reflect the Committee's intent.

The specifications

basically were those of alternative B, with a few modifica
tions.

Under alternative B, if it appeared that M1 would grow

in the September-October period at a rate close to or above 5-1/4
per cent--the upper limit of the short-run range of tolerance--the
Desk would be required to aim for a Federal funds rate of 12 per cent.

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However, in view of the low rates of monetary growth since June, it
would be reasonable to raise the upper limits of the short-run
ranges for the aggregates; he would suggest ranges of 3 to 6 and
5 to 7-1/2 per cent for M1 and M2, respectively, instead of the
alternative B ranges of 3-1/4 to 5-1/4 and 5 to 7 per cent.

The

range for RPD's would be adjusted accordingly, to 6 to 8-1/2 per
cent.

For the funds rate, he believed that a range of 10-1/2 to

12 per cent would be acceptable to the majority.
Mr. Bucher remarked that raising the upper limit of

the

short-run ranges for the aggregates was in accordance with his
own views, but he preferred a lower limit of 10 per cent for the
funds rate.
Chairman Burns asked the members to indicate informally
their preference between 10 and 10-1/2 per cent for the lower
limit of the funds rate range.
A majority indicated a preference for 10-1/2 per cent.
Mr. Clay commented that he would be concerned if M1 grew
at a rate as high as 6 per cent over the September-October period.
However, he did not believe such a rate of increase was likely,
and consequently, he would not oppose the 3 to 6 per cent range.

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Mr. Hayes said specification of 5-3/4 per cent for the M
1
longer-run target would represent a considerable change, and he
suggested that a lower rate be considered.
The Chairman asked for an expression of preference between
longer-run targets represented by growth in M1 at rates of 5-1/2
and 5-3/4 per cent.
A majority expressed a preference for 5-3/4 per cent.
Mr. Holland observed that a number of Committee members
had suggested that the funds rate be moved down gradually without
waiting, as was the usual practice, to see how the aggregates were
behaving in relation to the specified ranges.
Chairman Burns commented that as a rule the Manager ought
not to move the rate immediately after a Committee meeting.

He

would say that the rate should be moved down from its present
level of about 11-3/4 per cent to about 11-1/2 per cent or a shade
below that by a week from now, and then to about 11-1/4 per cent
by a week later, on the assumption

that the aggregates appeared

to be growing at rates within the specified ranges and on the
further assumption that markets were not reacting in such a way
as to raise questions about proceeding further.

Once the 11-1/4

per cent mid-point of the range had been reached, the Desk would
be guided in its operations by the behavior of the aggregates.

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Chairman Burns then proposed that the Committee vote on
a directive consisting of the general paragraphs as drafted
the staff and alternative B for the operational paragraph.

by
It

would be understood that the directive would be interpreted in
accordance with the following specifications.

The longer-run

targets--namely, the annual rates of growth for the period from
August 1974 to March 1975--would be 5-3/4, 7, and 5-1/2 per cent
for M1, M 2 , and the bank credit proxy, respectively.

The associated

ranges of tolerance for growth rates in the September-October period
would be 6 to 8-1/2 per cent for RPD's, 3 to 6 per cent for M1,
and 5 to 7-1/2 per cent for M2 .

The range of tolerance for the

weekly average Federal funds rate in the inter-meeting period would
be 10-1/2 to 12 per cent.
Mr. Hayes indicated that he planned to dissent from the
proposed directive.
With Mr. Hayes dissenting, the
Federal Reserve Bank of New York
was authorized and directed, until
otherwise directed by the Committee,
to execute transactions for the System
Account in accordance with the follow
ing domestic policy directive:
The information reviewed at this meeting suggests
that real output of goods and services is changing little
in the current quarter, following the first-half decline,
and that price and wage increases are continuing large.
In August industrial production, according to preliminary
indications, remained near the level of recent months,
while the unemployment rate edged up to 5.4 per cent.
Wholesale prices of farm products rose further, on average,
and announcements of increases for industrial commodities
continued numerous.

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In recent weeks the dollar has continued to appreciate

against leading foreign currencies.

U.S. bank lending to

foreign borrowers diminished in July and apparently also
in August, while inflows from abroad increased. The foreign
trade deficit, which had narrowed in June, widened in July.

In August growth of the narrowly defined money stock
was above the low pace of July but well below the 6 per cent
annual rate of the first half of the year. Net inflows of
time deposits other than money market CD's continued at
about the July rate, but the performance of passbook savings
at banks--and of total deposits at nonbank thrift institu
tions--remained weak. Although growth in business loans
remained relatively strong in August, growth in total bank
credit was moderate, and banks reduced their reliance on
large-denomination CD's and nondeposit funds. Interest
rates on most short-term market instruments have changed
little on balance since mid-August, while rates on most
types of longer-term securities have risen further. On
September 4 the Federal Reserve announced the removal of
the 3 per cent marginal reserve requirement on longer-term
large-denomination CD's.
In light of the foregoing developments, it is the
policy of the Federal Open Market Committee to foster
financial conditions conducive to resisting inflationary
pressures, supporting a resumption of real economic growth,
and achieving equilibrium in the country's balance of pay
ments.
To implement this policy, while taking account of
developments in domestic and international financial
markets, the Committee seeks to achieve bank reserve and
money market conditions consistent with moderate growth
in monetary aggregates over the months ahead.
Secretary's note: The specifications agreed upon
by the Committee, in the form distributed following
the meeting, are appended to this memorandum as
Attachment D.

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It was agreed that the next meeting of the Committee would
be held on October 15, 1974, at 9:30 a.m.
Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

Secretary

ATTACHMENT A

September 10, 1974

Drafts of Domestic Policy Directive for Consideration by the
Federal Open Market Committee at its Meeting on September 10-11, 1974
GENERAL PARAGRAPHS

The information reviewed at this meeting suggests that
real output of goods and services is changing little in the current
quarter, following the first-half decline, and that price and wage
increases are continuing large. In August industrial production,
according to preliminary indications, remained near the level of
recent months, while the unemployment rate edged up to 5.4 per
cent. Wholesale prices of farm products rose further, on average,
and announcements of increases for industrial commodities continued

numerous.
In recent weeks the dollar has continued to appreciate
against leading foreign currencies. U.S. bank lending to foreign
borrowers diminished in July and apparently also in August, while
inflows from abroad increased. The foreign trade deficit, which
had narrowed in June, widened in July.
In August growth of the narrowly defined money stock
was above the low pace of July but well below the 6 per cent
annual rate of the first half of the year. Net inflows of
time deposits other than money market CD's continued at about
the July rate, but the performance of passbook savings at banksand of total deposits at nonbank thrift institutions--remained
weak. Although growth in business loans remained relatively
strong in August, growth in total bank credit was moderate, and
banks reduced their reliance on large-denomination CD's and
nondeposit funds. Interest rates on most short-term market
instruments have changed little on balance since mid-August,
while rates on most types of longer-term securities have risen
further. On September 4 the Federal Reserve announced the
removal of the 3 per cent marginal reserve requirement on longer
term, large-denomination CD's.
In light of the foregoing developments, it is the policy
of the Federal Open Market Committee to foster financial conditions
conducive to resisting inflationary pressures, supporting a resump
tion of real economic growth, and achieving equilibrium in the
country's balance of payments.

OPERATIONAL PARAGRAPH
Alternative A
To implement this policy, while taking account of
developments in domestic and international financial markets,
the Committee seeks to achieve bank reserve and money market
conditions consistent with a higher rate of growth in monetary
aggregates than has prevailed over recent months.
Alternative B
To implement this policy, while taking account of
developments in domestic and international financial markets,
the Committee seeks to achieve bank reserve and money market
conditions consistent with moderate growth in monetary aggre
gates over the months ahead.
Alternative C
To implement this policy, while taking account of
developments in domestic and international financial markets,
the Committee seeks to achieve bank reserve and money market
conditions consistent with modest growth in monetary aggre
gates over the months ahead.

ATTACHMENT B
Communique Issued by Central Bank Governors of the
Group of Ten and Switzerland

At their regular meeting in Basle on 9th September, the
Central Bank Governors from the countries of the Group of Ten and
Switzerland discussed the working of the international banking
system.

They took stock of the existing mechanisms for supervision

and regulation and noted recent improvements made in these fields
in a number of major countries.
They agreed to intensify the exchange of relevant
information between Central banks on the activities of banks
operating in international markets and, where appropriate, to
tighten further the regulations governing foreign exchange positions.
The Governors also had an exchange of views on the problem
of the lender of last resort in the Euromarkets.

They recognized

that it would not be practical to lay down in advance detailed rules
and procedures for the provision of temporary liquidity.

But they

were satisfied that to that end means are available and will be used
if and when necessary.

MONEY SUPPLY TARGET PATHS
RATIO SCALE,

5 I4%PATH
AOPrTED IN JULY

..
J

5 1/4% PATI"
ADOPTED IN AUGUST "--

*

MLLLIONS OF DOLLARS

A-

WTI PATH FROM
AUGUST 1974 NEEDED TO REACH
5 314% PATH BY MARCH 19B5
6.3% G

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F.Ra. OF PHILADELPHIA
CONFIDENTIAL (FR)

ATTACHMENT D

September 10,
Points for FOMC guidance to Manager
in Implementation of directive

A.

Specifications
(As agreed, 9/10/74)

Longer-run targets (SAAR):
(September plus fourth and first
quarters, combined)

5-3/4%

Proxy
B.

1974

5-1/2%

Short-run operating constraints:
1.

2.

Range of tolerance for RPD growth
rate (September-October average):

6 to 8-1/2%

Ranges of tolerance for monetary
aggregates (September-October average):

3 to 6%
5 to 7-1/2%

3.

4.

Range of tolerance for Federal funds
rate (daily average in statement
weeks between meetings):

10-1/2 to 12%

Federal funds rate to be moved in an

orderly way within range of toleration.
5. Other considerations:

account to be taken of developments

in domestic and international financial markets.

C.

If it appears that the Committee's various operating constraints are
proving to be significantly inconsistent in the period between meetings,
the Manager is promptly to notify the Chairman, who will then promptly
decide whether the situation calls for special Committee action to give
supplementary instructions.