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MEMORANDUM OF DISCUSSION

A meeting of the Federal Open Market Committee was held in
the offices of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
in Washington, D.C., on Tuesday, October 28, 1969, at 9:30 a.m.
PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Martin, Chairman
Hayes, Vice Chairman
Bopp
Brimmer
Clay
Coldwell
Daane
Maisel
Mitchell
Robertson
Scanlon
Sherrill

Messrs. Francis, Heflin, and Swan,
Alternate Members of the Federal
Open Market Committee
Messrs. Morris and Kimbrel, Presidents
of the Federal Reserve Banks of
Boston and Atlanta, respectively
Mr. Holland, Secretary
Mr. Broida, Deputy Secretary
Messrs. Kenyon and Molony, Assistant
Secretaries
Mr. Hackley, General Counsel
Mr. Partee, Economist
Messrs. Axilrod, Baughman, Gramley,
Green, Hersey, Solomon, and Tow,
Associate Economists
Mr. Holmes, Manager, System Open Market
Account
Mr. Cardon, Assistant to the Board of
Governors
Messrs. Coyne and Nichols, Special
Assistants to the Board of Governors

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Mr. Williams, Adviser, Division of Research
and Statistics, Board of Governors
Messrs. Keir and Wernick, Associate Advisers,
Division of Research and Statistics,
Board of Governors
Mr. Bernard, Special Assistant, Office of the
Secretary, Board of Governors
Mr. Wendel, Chief, Government Finance Section,
Division of Research and Statistics, Board
of Governors
Miss Eaton, Open Market Secretariat Assistant,
Office of the Secretary, Board of Governors
Messrs. MacDonald and Strothman, First Vice
Presidents of the Federal Reserve Banks of
Cleveland and Minneapolis, respectively
Messrs. Eisenmenger, Parthemos, Taylor, Jones,
and Craven, Senior Vice Presidents of the
Federal Reserve Banks of Boston, Richmond,
Atlanta, St. Louis, and San Francisco,
respectively
Mr. Hocter, Vice President, Federal Reserve
Bank of Cleveland
Messrs. Garvy and Kareken, Economic Advisers,
Federal Reserve Banks of New York and
Minneapolis, respectively
Messrs. Bodner and Meek, Assistant Vice
Presidents, Federal Reserve Bank of
New York
Mr. Willes, Senior Economist, Federal Reserve
Bank of Philadelphia
Mr. Sandberg, Special Assistant, Securities
Department, Federal Reserve Bank of
New York
Chairman Martin noted that since the previous meeting of
the Committee the President had announced that he planned to
nominate Dr. Arthur F. Burns as a member of the Board for the term
beginning February 1,

1970--when his (Chairman Martin's)

expired--and to designate Dr. Burns as Chairman.

In

term

this connection,

the Chairman caused to be distributed for ready reference copies of

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the statements that had been issued at the time by the President
and by himself.
He had been asked by Dr.

Burns,

the Chairman said,

indicate that he did not intend to take part in

to

any of the

activities of the System or to attempt to influence any of its
decisions until after he had been confirmed and had taken his oath
of office.

By the same token, Dr. Burns would not consider himself

necessarily committed by any decisions taken by the System during
that period.

He might, however, want to visit with members of the

Committee and other System officials.
Chairman Martin added that copies of the green and blue
books 1/ prepared for this meeting had been sent to Dr. Burns as a
matter of information, and that it

was planned to provide him also

with copies of other staff materials prepared for the Committee
during the period before he assumed office.
By unanimous vote, the minutes
of actions taken at the meeting of the
Federal Open Market Committee held on
October 7, 1969, were approved.
The memorandum of discussion for
the meeting of the Federal Open Market
Committee held on October 7, 1969,
was accepted.
Before this meeting there had been distributed to the
members of the Committee a report from the Special Manager of the

1/ Respectively the reports, "Current Economic and Financial
Conditions" and "Money Market and Reserve Relationships," prepared
for the Committee by the Board's staff.

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System Open Market Account on foreign exchange market conditions
and on Open Market Account and Treasury operations in

foreign cur

rencies for the period October 7 through 22, 1969, and a supplemental
report covering the period October 23 through 27, 1969.
these reports have been placed in

Copies of

the files of the Committee.

In supplementation of the written reports, Mr. Bodner said
he thought he was revealing no secret when he said that the event
for which all of those on the international side had been waiting
had now occurred:

the German Government had established a new

parity for the mark at 3.66 to the dollar,

or 27.32 cents per mark.

That represented an increased cost of marks to foreigners of some
9-1/4 per cent, a revaluation that exceeded just about everyone's
expectations.

The markets had reacted very well to the German

move and other major countries had already indicated that they
would maintain their present parities.

The unwinding of positions

had begun with a substantial outflow of funds from Germany and the
Netherlands,
firming in

some money moving into the United Kingdom,

and a

the exchange rates for the French franc and Italian

lira.
Mr. Bodner commented that toward the end of last week,
as the market began to revise upward its expectations as to where
the new German parity would be set, there was increased speculation
on the possibility of upward adjustments by several other European
countries.

Pressures focused particularly on the Dutch guilder,

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but there was also some flow into Belgium and Austria.
same time,

At the

the flow of funds out of Germany tapered off as the

market premium of about 7-1/4 per cent did not seem so attractive
when people began to think of a revaluation of 8 per cent or better.
Over the past weekend the Dutch and the Austrians had issued state
ments that they had no intention of making adjustments in their
rates, and those statements appeared to have been accepted by the
market.

The Belgians,

on the other hand, indicated they were still

considering what to do and there was a large flow of funds into
Belgium yesterday.

Subsequently the Belgians, too, said they would

make no change in their parity, and today the flows had begun to
reverse.

All in all, the picture at the moment was one of relatively

orderly markets settling down to the new situation.
hesitated to make forecasts, it

Although he

seemed not unreasonable to hope

that there would be a period of relative calm ahead.
It might be useful to review briefly the experience of the
past few weeks, Mr. Bodner observed.

As the Committee was aware,

the German Federal Bank had operated throughout the period of the
floating mark to keep the market stable and orderly by providing
a firm floor just below current market quotations.

Over the

entire period during which the rate was permitted to rise, the
German Federal Bank sold some $1 billion in the process of preventing
any slippage.

Thus, it returned to the market about two-thirds of

the funds that had come in during September.

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Those tactics were useful in

said.

In the first

several respects,

Mr. Bodner

place, by preventing significant fluctuations

in the mark rate they lent an air of stability to the market that
helped considerably to reduce the widespread nervousness that had
been occasioned by the abandonment of the previous intervention
levels.

In addition, the sales of dollars helped to prevent a

squeeze in the Euro-dollar market in early October when U.S. banks
were increasing their borrowings while funds were moving into several
other European centers.

The sharp rise in

made further speculation in

the mark rate quickly

marks unattractive and,

on the contrary,

encouraged liquidation of mark positions.
As he had noted at the last meeting, Mr. Bodner continued,
the rise in the mark rate lent some strength to sterling and to
the Belgian franc and it

brought some speculation in

guilders.

The guilder was widely seen as the most likely candidate for
revaluation in

company with the mark,

and over the past few weeks

there had been a steady flow of funds into the Netherlands.

In the

final three days of last week in particular, the flow was very
heavy; the Dutch took in $360 million, bringing their total gains
for the month to $770 million.

After repaying outstanding drawings

to the System, the Dutch rebuilt their dollar position and then
sought cover for the remaining inflow.

The System drew the entire

$300 million available under the swap line, but that still
Dutch with $200 million of excess dollars.

left the

The additional cover

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was provided by the Treasury in

the form of a one-week swap.

Treasury took the position that in

the circumstances it

The

would like

to await this week's developments before committing itself for a
longer period.

Thus far this week, the Dutch had sold nearly

$100 million as the speculative flows were beginning to be reversed.
As far as the other currencies were concerned, Mr. Bodner
remarked, the pattern in the market had been very much as indicated
by the initial reactions to the German move at the end of last
month.

Belgium made persistent modest gains and over the period

succeeded in acquiring sufficient dollars to liquidate fully its
$184 million outstanding drawings from the System.

As he had

indicated earlier, the flow into Belgium continued yesterday but it
was beginning to unwind today.

steadily throughout the month,
$385 million.

The British also gained reserves

and those gains had totaled some

The British repaid $25 million to the System and

$75 million to Germany last week, and tomorrow would be repaying a
further $75 million to the System and $25 million to Germany.
They planned to repay a further $100 million to the System on
Thursday.

That would reduce their swap drawings from the System

to $900 million.

The $100 million repaid to Germany this month

was part of the $250 million recycling credit given by the
Germans in May.
Mr. Bodner reported that two countries, France and Italy,
had continued to lose reserves during this period, but in both

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cases losses were smaller than last month and during the last week
both countries were able to pick up some dollars.

Nevertheless,

the situation in both countries remained uncomfortable and repre
sented the major dark cloud on the horizon--except for the U.S.
position, which was quite clearly bad and did not appear likely to
improve significantly next year.
In the private gold markets, Mr. Bodner continued, there
had been a persistent decline in price throughout the period and
last week the London fixing got down to $39.95,
last December.

the lowest since

There had been a slight firming since then because

of the Middle East flare-up,

but turnover remained modest.

On the

official side there had been almost no transactions until today,
when Ireland sold the Treasury $19 million in gold.

The U.S. gold

stock remained unchanged, of course, while the Stabilization Fund's
holdings now stood at about $820 million.
Finally, Mr.
Euro-dollar market,

Bodner remarked, he might say a word about the
in which there had been a significant decline

in rates since the last meeting of the Committee.

At that time

rates had been running around 10-5/8 per cent for maturities of one
to six months,

but thereafter rates had declined steadily and

yesterday the three-month rate, for instance, was 8-11/16 per cent.
That decline reflected a combination of factors.

In the first

part

of the period the dollar sales by the German Federal Bank had kept
the market fairly well supplied despite the fact that U.S.

banks

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were increasing their borrowings.

More recently, U.S. bank takings

had dropped off sharply and that, coupled with a downward shift in
expectations about the future course of rates, seemed to account
for the further sharp decline.

Today, however, U.S. banks were

again actively bidding for Euro-dollars and the three-month rate
had moved up sharply to about 9-5/16 per cent.
Mr. Bodner concluded by noting that at the last meeting of
the Committee the staff had been asked to prepare a memorandum
reviewing the forward lira commitments of the Treasury.

That

memorandum was in preparation and would be distributed to the
Committee soon.
Mr. Daane commented that he was hopeful that the situation
in the market for Dutch guilders was settling down, as developments
yesterday and today apparently indicated.

He asked what measures

might be taken if that turned out not to be the case and there was
a renewed inflow of dollars to the Netherlands.
Mr. Bodner replied that the probable nature of such measures
was not clear at the moment.

The Treasury had taken the position

that it would be appropriate for the Netherlands Bank to increase
its holdings of uncovered dollars beyond the $200 million it presently
was prepared to hold.

The Treasury had been willing to make the one

week swap as a temporary measure partly because it was thought possible
that the situation would unwind this week, but also to provide time
to discuss with the Dutch the question of increasing their holdings

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of uncovered dollars.

He had advised the Dutch earlier in the week

of the Treasury's attitude, and he noted that Under Secretary Volcker
would be in the Netherlands this week and no doubt would talk with
them about the subject.

He (Mr. Bodner) believed the Treasury

had not yet reached a decision about the course it would follow
if the Dutch should indicate that they were not prepared to hold
more than $200 million.
In reply to another question by Mr. Daane, Mr. Bodner said
the legal situation with respect to increased dollar holdings of
the Netherlands Bank was a little cloudy.

However, he understood

that officials of that Bank had made a firm commitment to their
directors that they would not increase their uncovered dollar
holdings beyond $200 million without the directors' express
approval.
Mr. Brimmer noted that the System had drawn the full $300
million available under its swap line with the Netherlands Bank.
Given the Treasury's attitude that the Dutch should be prepared
to hold more than $200 million in uncovered dollars, he hoped the
System was not placing itself in conflict with the Treasury.
Mr. Bodner said he did not think there was any conflict.
The System's drawings on the Dutch swap line had been viewed as
consistent with the kinds of instructions the Committee had given
to the Desk from time to time on the use of the swap lines, and
no objections to the drawings had been raised by the Treasury.

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Moreover, he personally felt that the use of the swap line in the
prevailing circumstances was entirely appropriate, since it had been
necessitated by a type of speculative flow which the swap network
was intended to cope with.

When the System swap line had been

exhausted the Treasury had agreed to extend a one-week swap of its
own while the question of any further action was being considered.
At no point had anyone suggested that the System should increase
the size of its line with the Netherlands Bank.

In any case, in

view of the outflows from the Netherlands this week, the question
of possible further steps might well be moot shortly.
By unanimous vote, the System
open market transactions in foreign
currencies during the period October 7
through October 27, 1969, were approved,
ratified, and confirmed.
Mr. Bodner then noted that seven swap drawings by the Bank
of England totaling $725 million would mature in the period from
November 10 to December 3, 1969.

As he had indicated earlier, by

Thursday the total amount outstanding under the British swap line
would be reduced to $900 million.

That was some $75 million below

the level at the end of June and $225 million below the level
reached after the French devaluation.

The Account Management had

kept consistent pressure on the British to make maximum repayments,
and it felt that in general they had devoted as much of their
resources as possible to repayments to the System.
was aware,

As the Committee

the British swap line had been in continuous use since

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June 1968, well over the one-year limit, so the Committee's express
authorization was required for renewals of the drawings in question.
As to the individual drawings,
renewals.

most would involve first

or second

One would involve a fourth renewal, but he would hope that

that drawing would have been liquidated by the time it
November 20.

matured on

In general, however, it clearly would take some time

before all of the British drawings could be repaid and he recommended
renewal of the seven drawings at their maturity dates if

the British

were not in a position to repay them.
Mr.

Hayes commented that in

a conversation with Dr. Blessing

of the German Federal Bank he had noted the very large size of the
Bank of England's debt to the System and had expressed the hope that
the Germans would not press for an undue proportion of any repayments
the British might be able to make.
the view--a fact that Mr.

Dr. Blessing was sympathetic to

Hayes thought might have had some bearing

on the size of recent and expected repayments of British debt to the
System.
By unanimous vote, renewal for
further periods of three months, if
requested, of the seven swap drawings
by the Bank of England maturing in the
period November 10 to December 3,
1969, was authorized.
Mr. Bodner then noted that nine of the System's swap
arrangements would mature on December 2 and the others would mature

on various dates later in December.

He recommended that the Committee

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approve renewal of all outstanding reciprocal currency arrangements
for further periods of one year.
By unanimous vote, renewal for
further periods of one year of the
following swap arrangements, having
the indicated amounts and maturity
dates, was approved:

Foreign bank
Austrian National Bank
National Bank of Belgium
Bank of Canada
National Bank of Denmark
Bank of England
Bank of France
German Federal Bank
Bank of Italy
Bank of Japan
Bank of Mexico
Netherlands Bank
Bank of Norway
Bank of Sweden
Swiss National Bank
Bank for International
Settlements:
Dollars against Swiss francs
Dollars against authorized
European currencies other
than Swiss francs

Amount of
arrangement
(millions of
dollars)
200
500
1,000
200
2,000
1,000
1,000
1,000
1,000
130
300
200
250
600

Maturity
of latest
authorized

renewal
1969
1969
1969
1969
1969
1969
1969
1969
1969
1969
1969
1969
1969
1969

December

1,000

December
December
December
December
December
December
December
December
December
December
December
December
December
December

2, 1969

December

2, 1969

Chairman Martin then invited Mr. Brimmer to bring the
Committee up to date on the status of proposed revisions in the
Federal Reserve's voluntary foreign credit restraint program.
Mr. Brimmer said he had been hopeful that revisions in both
the Federal Reserve program and the program for controlling foreign
direct investment administered by the Commerce Department would be

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announced by the end of this week.

However, as of late yesterday

that schedule no longer appeared feasible, mainly because the Com
merce Department had not resolved a basic question as to whether
preference should continue to be given under its program to direct
investment in developing countries.
program was concerned,

it

As far as the Federal Reserve

was planned to retain priorities for loans

to developing countries.
The main change planned in
Mr.

the Federal Reserve program,

Brimmer continued, was the introduction of two different types
One was a so-called "General Ceiling," equal to 90 per

of ceilings.

cent of each participating bank's old lending ceiling and available
for loans of any type or maturity.

In addition, an "Export Term-Loan

Ceiling" would be introduced, equal to 1 per cent of the participating
bank's total assets at the end of 1968 and applicable to term loans
to finance new U.S. export credits to any part of the world, includ
ing Western Europe.

Export term loans would be defined as they were

for purposes of the interest equalization tax.

The aggregate General

Ceiling would be about $9.1 billion--$1 billion less than the old
ceiling; the Export Term-Loan Ceiling would aggregate about $2.4
billion, for a combined total of about $11.5 billion.

Under the

revised program a few banks would find themselves over their general
ceilings, which would continue to be applicable to short-term export
financing.

It

seemed reasonable to give such banks 12 months to bring

their holdings down to the ceiling, and it
reduce any overage by about one-fourth in

was planned to ask them to
each calendar quarter.

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Mr. Brimmer said he personally was still

not convinced that

changes in the program were needed to foster U.S.

exports.

However,

there had been considerable pressure from various agencies of the
Government to make modifications for that purpose.

The revisions

he had described had been worked out partly because, in his judgment
and that of others associated with the effort, if no concessions
were made to the views of other agencies there was a risk that the
decision would be made to exempt export credits entirely from the
VFCR program.
Mr. Brimmer noted that Chairman Martin and Mr. Daane had
been quite helpful in the course of the recent inter-agency discus
sions.

The Board was planning to review the proposed changes at a

meeting this afternoon.

Reserve Bank officers charged with responsi

bility for administering the program had been invited to a meeting at
the Board tomorrow to discuss the subject.
In a concluding observation, Mr. Brimmer said the Commerce
Department was planning to take further steps to liberalize its
program.

In his view they were going too far toward liberaliza

tion, given the outlook for the U.S. balance of payments.
Mr. Daane noted that the fact that the total of the two
new aggregate ceilings exceeded the single aggregate ceiling under
the present program by about $1.5 billion did not necessarily imply
that the change would lead to a worsening of the balance of payments
by that amount.

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Mr.

Brimmer remarked that it

was hard to say what the

effect of the change would be, partly because it

was not clear to

what extent banks would shift toward term lending in
financing.

their export

Also unclear was the extent to which banks not in

the

present program would utilize their leeway under the new program.
He was hopeful that participating banks would understand that the
objective was to promote U.S. exports rather than to enlarge the
volume of export financing,

and that all of the leeway under the

Export Term-Loan Ceiling would not be used.

However,

he was not

sure that that would be the case.
Mr.

Robertson said it

might be worth noting that loans by

the Export-Import Bank would no longer be exempt from the ceiling.
Mr. Brimmer commented that new loans in

three categories-

made directly or guaranteed by the Export-Import Bank, guaranteed
by the Department of Defense, or insured by the Foreign Credit
Insurance Association--would no longer be exempt.

However,

the

exemptions would continue for outstanding loans in those categories.
Mr. Coldwell asked whether estimates were available of the
number of banks whose outstanding credits would be in

excess of

the new ceilings.
Mr.
but it

Brimmer replied that no firm estimates were available

appeared that the number was not large and that most such

banks were in New York.

As he had mentioned, it had been considered

desirable to give such banks a good deal of time to get back under

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the ceilings.

Also, some of their export credits no doubt would

qualify under the new Export Term-Loan Ceiling.
Mr.

Hayes said he was somewhat puzzled by certain aspects

of the proposed program.

First, it

was not clear to him why banks

should be given an incentive to make term loans in

their export

financing operations in preference to short-term credits.
second question related to considerations of equity.

His

He did not

know what the net effect of the new VFCR program would be on the
larger banks that had been doing a good deal of foreign lending
all along, but if the effect was to increase the degree of

restriction on their operations that would seem inconsistent with
the changes being made in the Commerce Department program.

It

seemed to him that in general banks had been more severely
restricted than other business corporations,

and he would hope

that whatever changes were made would not increase the disparity.
In response to Mr. Hayes'

first question, Mr. Brimmer

commented that the separate ceiling had been restricted to term
loans not to provide any particular incentives but simply because
of the problems of distinguishing export credits from other types
of loans in the general category of short-term credits.

Bankers

themselves had reported that they would find it difficult to make
that distinction and the general conclusion had been that there
was no systematic way of identifying short-term export credits.
Mr. Brimmer went on to say that the question of equity
which Mr. Hayes had mentioned had been debated at length.

It was

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true that the large banks in New York, Chicago, and San Francisco
that had been doing a considerable amount of foreign lending for
a long time were still
base.

frozen into ceilings related to the 1964

However, those ceilings were large enough to permit the

banks in question to continue making foreign loans and it
equitable to give other banks the opportunity to do so.

seemed
Moreover,

since the assets of the larger banks were substantial, their new
Export Term-Loan Ceilings, set at 1 per cent of such assets, also
were sizable.

Finally, the large banks tended to be those with

foreign branches and thus had the flexibility that such branches
provided.
Clearly, Mr. Brimmer observed, questions of judgment were
involved.

However, if

one started from the position that no great

degree of liberalization in the program was appropriate--as he
had--one's conclusions were apt to be in the direction of limiting
the magnitude of the changes.
Mr. Hayes said he certainly was not advocating substantial
liberalization, since he was a strong advocate of the need for the
Federal Reserve program.

Rather, his reservations concerned the

desirability of incorporating an incentive for banks that had not
been engaged in foreign lending to move into the business.
Mr. Brimmer commented that, as he had indicated earlier,
the proposed changes in the VFCR program represented a compromise
that reflected various kinds of pressures.

With respect to

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Mr. Hayes' observation, he would note that the Export-Import Bank
was anxious to see a considerable increase in the number of U.S.
banks engaged in export financing.

It was to be hoped that the

compromise worked out was one that could win general acceptance and

still retain some degree of control over the foreign lending of
U.S. banks.
Mr. Daane remarked that he thought there was merit in the
observations of both Messrs. Brimmer and Hayes.

He and Mr. Brimmer

had worked hard to hold down the amount of liberalization of all of
the Government's balance of payments programs but, as Mr. Brimmer
had indicated, they had achieved only partial success.

In their

judgment, the U.S. balance of payments position and outlook did not
justify any liberalization in either the Federal Reserve program or
that of the Commerce Department.
Before this meeting there had been distributed to the
members of the Committee a report from the Manager of the System
Open Market Account covering domestic open market operations for
the period October 7 through 22, 1969, and a supplemental report
covering the period October 23 through 27, 1969.

Copies of both

reports have been placed in the files of the Committee.
In supplementation of the written reports, Mr. Holmes
commented as follows:
The bond markets--as the written reports spell out
in some detail--experienced a rather dramatic change in
sentiment, a change that began about the time of the
last meeting of the Committee. There were three distinct

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elements in the shift of expectations toward the emergence
of lower interest rates: First, a growing belief--sparked
by the September unemployment data--that fiscal and
monetary restraint was beginning to cool off the economy;
second, a strengthening of the hope that settlement in
Vietnam was near at hand; and third, a feeling that those
favorable economic and military developments would permitor indeed engender--a relaxation of monetary restraint in
the months ahead. In this atmosphere, the markets forgot
their earlier apprehension about the heavy calendar of
Federal agency and corporate financing and bond prices
rose sharply, wiping out the sizable declines that took
place in September.
How solidly based the recent rally in the bond
markets may prove to be is open to question. Indeed, in
the past several days some reaction has set in as the
most recent bits of new economic intelligence--on durable
goods orders and housing starts--failed to corroborate
earlier evidence of a slowing economy, and as Vietnam
developments appeared somewhat less hopeful. Thus, it
appears that the market atmosphere in the weeks ahead
will be very sensitive to unfolding economic develop
ments as well as to shifting hopes for disengagement in
Vietnam. While the Treasury will not be a major factor
in the market for the rest of the year, heavy demands in
the corporate, municipal, and Federal agency markets are
apt to maintain pressure on the available supply of new
money.
Short-term interest rates have exhibited less
dramatic developments, although rates on commercial paper,
bankers' acceptances, and Euro-dollars have moved lower.
Treasury bill rates have been generally steady despite
the auction by the Treasury of $5 billion of tax-antic
ipation bills. In yesterday's weekly Treasury bill
auction average rates of 7.03 and 7.26 per cent were
established for three- and six-month bills, respectively,
down only 2 to 3 basis points from the rates established
in the auction just preceding the last meeting of the
Committee. While the Treasury bill market continues to be
in a good technical position, some pressures could
develop as the result of flows of funds abroad as
speculative positions in German marks are liquidated
and the German Federal Bank continues to sell bills that
it had acquired earlier.
Maintaining relatively steady money market condi
tions entailed large-scale open market operations over
the period, with some form of open market activity

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taking place on all but one business day in the period.
In the first part of the period, with money market banks
under considerable pressure, a large supply of reserves
was required to prevent the emergence of tighter money
market conditions than the Committee had desired. Thus,
from October 7 to 17 the System purchased over $1.1 bil
lion in Treasury bills outright--of which over half were
from foreign accounts--and made $2.1 billion of short
term repurchase agreements. Consideration was given
during this period to purchases of coupon securities,
but with prices of Treasury notes and bonds moving
sharply upward, we considered it imprudent to add addi
tional fuel to the fire. By Friday, October 17, it
appeared that the credit proxy, including Euro-dollars,
was turning out substantially weaker than had been
estimated at the time of the last meeting, with an
annual rate of decline of 11-1/2 per cent projected
against a 4 to 8 per cent rate of decline anticipated
at the time of the last meeting. Thus, some degree of
implementation of the proviso clause of the directive
seemed called for and--with the Federal funds rate on
the high side--reserves were injected over the weekend.
As it turned out, the money center banks accumulated a
heavy volume of excess reserves--over $5 billion--over
that weekend, and as they subsequently attempted to
dispose of them in the market the Federal funds rate
dipped below recently prevailing levels. While some
easing of tensions in the money market was called for
by the weakness in the credit proxy, there were risks
that an unopposed easing of conditions might have
encouraged the market--on the alert for any signal--to
believe that policy had been significantly eased--thereby
adding to the upsurge in bond prices.
Thus, the System
reversed direction and last week absorbed reserves by
making over $2-1/2 billion in matched sale-purchase
agreements and by selling about $425 million Treasury
bills in the market and to foreign accounts.
I might add that by last Friday estimates of the
credit proxy for October were back within the range
anticipated at the last meeting--although at the deeper
end--and with November projections indicating a sizable
increase in the proxy, the proviso clause was no longer
in effect. Money supply, as you know, was stronger
than expected in October, with the estimated rise at
about a 2-1/2 per cent annual rate compared with a 2 to
5 per cent rate of decline anticipated at the time of
the last meeting. I should note in passing that under
the ground rules laid down in Governor Mitchell's

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memorandum of September 5, 1969, we would have had to
tighten up on money market conditions under a short
run money supply target. And, given the disparate
movement of the different aggregates from estimates,
there would have been considerable confusion about the
meaning of the proviso clause if we had been operating
under a "basket of aggregates" approach.
With respect to the new authorization for lending
Treasury securities held in the System Account, we
have continued to work on the detailed operating prob
lems involved but have held up discussions with the
dealers in hopes that the Treasury would reach some
final decision about its participation. There has been
some discussion at the Treasury about direct Treasury
lending of securities out of unissued stock, although
I would not be very hopeful about the prospects because
of legal and other problems. I would be reluctant to
wait for the Treasury much longer, and plan to be in
touch with the dealers in the next day or so to explain
our approach. Our operations can subsequently be
folded in with Treasury or investment account activity
once the appropriate decisions have been made at the
Treasury.
In response to a question by Mr. Robertson, Mr. Holmes
indicated that the Treasury was holding back on a final decision
to participate in the lending of Government securities pending a
thorough investigation of the alternatives.

He thought the

Treasury would decide against lending securities from its unissued
stock in view of the problems with that approach, but the possi
bility of permitting loans by some Government investment accounts
was under active consideration.
Mr. Robertson expressed the view that the lending of U.S.
Government securities was primarily the business of the Treasury,
and that it would be highly unfortunate if the System were to
engage in such lending without the concurrent participation of the
Treasury.

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Mr. Holmes said he thought it would be desirable for the

Treasury to join the System in

this activity,

since the efficient

functioning of the market was a matter of joint concern.

However,

he believed there still would be compelling reasons for the System
to go ahead with lending of securities even if the Treasury de
cided not to participate.
Mr. Robertson said he recognized the System's interest in
the efficient functioning of the Government securities market.
He noted, however, that the legal basis for System lending of
securities was a finding of necessity.

In his view a decision

by the Treasury not to participate would raise a serious question
about the necessity of such lending by the System.
Mr.
in

Daane remarked that it

was the System's own interest

the functioning of the market which had led to the decision

to lend securities.

While the Treasury also was interested in

the performance of the market, he agreed with Mr. Holmes that
there were clear and compelling reasons for the Federal Reserve
to undertake such lending even if

the Treasury did not partici

pate.
Mr.

Mitchell noted that the portfolios of the Government

investment accounts were not as large or as diversified as the
System's portfolio and had been described as inadequate for the
lending operation.

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Mr. Robertson said that that consideration could be advanced
in support of System participation to supplement lending operations
by the Treasury.

As he had indicated, however, a failure of the

Treasury to engage in lending would raise the question of the
necessity for the System to do so.
Mr. Hayes said it was his impression that the Treasury
would welcome lending operations by the System.
Mr. Holmes indicated that one practical problem associated
with the ending of securities by the Treasury trust funds was
related to the fact that the portfolios of those funds were
divided between special and marketable issues.

If the Treasury

were to permit the trust funds to lend marketable obligations on
attractive terms, there would be pressure to invest more of the
trust fund assets in marketable issues and the Treasury would lose
some of its flexibility in managing the investments of those
funds.

There was therefore some reluctance at the Treasury to

allow the trust funds to participate in the proposed lending of
securities.

At the same time, the Treasury appeared to be looking

favorably on the possibility of securities loans by such agencies
such as the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation and the Federal
Home Loan Banks, whose investments were entirely in marketable
Treasury securities.
Chairman Martin said he expected that the Treasury would
decide to participate in the lending of securities.

In any case,

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he thought the Committee's action at the previous meeting to
authorize such lending by the System Open Market Account had not
been made conditional on Treasury participation.
Mr.

Hayes concurred in

the Chairman's comment regarding

the Committee's action.
Mr. Robertson said he thought the Committee's decision
had nevertheless been based on an underlying assumption that the
Treasury would participate.
Mr. Bopp remarked that the necessity for System lending
of securities was a matter of judgment.

Since the judgment to

be made rested primarily on technical considerations, he thought
it was appropriate for the Committee to rely on the recommenda
tion of the Manager, who was in the best position to assess all
of the relevant considerations.

In his (Mr. Bopp's) opinion,

the course followed by the Treasury was not relevant to the
Committee's decision.
In response to an inquiry by Mr. Brimmer, Mr. Hackley
indicated that in his opinion the only legal basis for System
lending of Government securities was a determination that such
lending was reasonably necessary to the effective conduct of open
market operations and the effectuation of open market policies.
He agreed that such a determination involved a matter of judgment
which need not depend upon the Treasury's decision about partici
pating in the lending arrangement.

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Mr.

Heflin said he did not disagree with Mr. Hackley's

legal opinion but thought nevertheless that Mr.
made a pertinent point.

Robertson had

Since the views of outside observers

regarding the necessity of the lending operations were likely to
be importantly influenced by the Treasury's decision, he
(Mr.

Heflin) thought the System's ability to support the position

that such operations were legally authorized would be weakened
if the Treasury decided against participation.
Chairman Martin remarked that the Committee could,

of

course, reconsider the decision it had made at the previous meet
ing.

In any case,

it

was important that the Manager have a clear

understanding of the Committee's wishes in the matter.

Perhaps

the best course would be to permit the Manager to proceed on the
basis of the decision already taken, without attaching conditions
regarding Treasury participation, but at the same time advising
the Treasury that the Committee would consider it

highly desirable

for the Treasury to participate.
There was general agreement with the Chairman's suggestion.
Mr.

Mitchell noted that at the time of the previous meet

ing private demand deposits and the money supply had been projec
ted to decline in October, but they now appeared to be growing
moderately.
as to its

While he was pleased by that outcome, he was puzzled

cause.

Was it

the consequence of the marginal imple

mentation of the proviso clause?

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Mr. Holmes said he always found it difficult to explain
short-run changes in the money stock.

One factor that apparently

contributed to the October growth was the rapid decline in U.S.
Government deposits, but he was not sure that that was the com
plete explanation.
In response to another question by Mr. Mitchell, Mr. Holmes
said the recent shift in market expectations did not appear to
Rather, the rally in

have been induced by System operations.

the bond markets was sparked mainly by changing views about the
economic outlook and reports regarding peace prospects in Vietnam.
Market participants had long been looking for signs of weakening
in the economy and the September unemployment data were widely
interpreted as the first significant indication of such weakening.
In addition, a large FNMA issue offered in early October--about
which there had been considerable apprehension in the marketproved to be a sell-out and that served to engender confidence
among market participants.
Mr. Holmes added that the market had tended to view the
System's operations over the past month as indicating that there
had been essentially no change in policy.

Some close observers

inferred that a subtle change might have occurred around mid
October, but they were not quite sure.

For a few days just after

midmonth, when the Federal funds rate had declined to relatively
low levels, there was a risk the market would conclude that there

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had been a significant shift in

policy.

The fact that the Desk

made several billion dollars of matched sale-purchase transactions
kept such a view from developing, even though the funds rate was
still

on the low side.
Mr. Maisel referred to Mr. Holmes' comment that as of

last Friday the proviso clause was no longer in

effect because

the estimate of the bank credit proxy for October was back within
the projected range and a sizable increase was projected for
November.

That statement suggested that the Manager thought the

Committee had taken a position with respect to bank credit growth
for the two months together.

While he (Mr.

Maisel) was of the

view that the Committee should formulate its

preferences for

bank credit for periods longer than one month,

he noted that the

Board staff projections available on Friday had indicated a
decline in October at an 8 per cent annual rate and a rise in
November at a 7 per cent rate, and thus a negative growth rate
over the two months.

He could not recall any comments at the

preceding meeting suggesting that the Committee thought negative
growth was desirable during the period in

question.

Mr. Holmes replied that the marginal implementation of
the proviso had been suspended primarily because the October pro
jection was back within the 5 to 8 per cent range of decline which
the Committee had found acceptable at the previous meeting.

As

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he had indicated,

however,

the fact that the newly available pro

jection for November showed strength relative to October also had
been taken into account.
Mr.

Brimmer said he was glad that the Manager had not

based his recent operations exclusively on the October projection,
especially when the month was nearly over and November projections
had become available.

Perhaps the recent experience pointed up

a problem which the Committee should be looking into.
Mr. Maisel agreed.

He added that he was not convinced

that the Friday projection of bank credit behavior in October and
November together was as strong as had seemed likely at the time
of the previous meeting.

In any case, he had not meant to suggest

that the Desk's operations had been improper.
saw it,

The problem,

as he

was that the Committee did not provide the Manager with

an adequate basis on which to make his operating decisions.
Chairman Martin commented that he continued to be wary
of what he had often referred to as "statisticalitis."
By unanimous vote, the open
market transactions in Government
securities, agency obligations,
and bankers' acceptances during
the period October 7 through 27,
1969, were approved, ratified,
and confirmed.

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The Chairman then called for the staff economic and
financial reports,

supplementing the written reports that had

been distributed prior to the meeting,
placed in

the files of the Committee.

copies of which have been
At this meeting the staff

reports were in the form of a visual-auditory presentation and
copies of the charts and tables have been placed in

the files of

the Committee.
Mr. Partee made the following introductory statement:
The time has come once again for the staff to
present to the Committee a full-scale review of
Early in the game,
economic and financial prospects.
we decided to develop a projection encompassing the
First, fiscal
full year 1970, for three reasons.
policy is almost certain to become more expansive next
year, but a good part of the stimulus may not be felt
until the latter half of 1970. Second, monetary policies
pursued for the remainder of this year and into early
1970 will have effects on GNP well beyond the middle of
next year.
Third, much of the basis for the continuing
strong bullish sentiment of businessmen and investors
on the other side of the
rests on the premise of a "hill
valley" and we need to have a judgment as to how steep
that hill
may be.
I must emphasize that this is only a first
look
at 1970--and it is fraught with uncertainties.
The
Federal Budget for fiscal 1971 is still in the formative
stage, and we can only guess at its eventual dimensions.
What happens with regard to the Vietnam conflict will
obviously be of major importance, and the rumors flying
around these days make it difficult to know just how
much of a decline there may be in defense spending to
And from the
help offset increases in other programs.
private economy have come some recent data on housing
starts and new orders for durables that are more bullish
than anything we had expected.
Given these uncertainties--especially regarding
the course of fiscal policy--it seemed to us appropriate
to devote even more careful attention than usual to the
policy assumptions of the projection.

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Mr.

Gramley then presented the following comments on the

policy assumptions of the projection:
It has been evident for some time now that the
maximum degree of fiscal restraint is behind us--the
real question is how much stimulus will be coming from
the Federal budget. We have assumed Federal expenditures
in the current fiscal year consistent with the Budget
ceiling of $192.9 billion for total outlays, reflecting
the Administration's intentions to remain within this
limit and the increasing probability that defense
expenditures will decline as earlier expected.
The
pressures for increased outlays in other areas are
intense, however, and should lead to a significant
increase in expenditures next year. We expect total
expenditures, as measured in the national income accounts,
to grow by almost a 9 per cent annual rate in the second
half of 1970, compared with about 5 per cent during the
past year.
Another uncertainty centers around the timing of
the removal of the tax surcharge. We are assuming an
extension of the surcharge at 5 per cent through June 30
and elimination thereafter. If the surcharge were to
go off entirely on January 1, Federal receipts in the
first half of 1970 would be reduced by about $5 billion,
annual rate. Either way, however, the economy will
face a considerable amount of additional fiscal stimulus
next year from lower tax rates.
With expenditures growing and receipts leveling
out, the over-all Federal Budget would swing into a
moderate deficit after the first quarter, and the deficit
deepens in the second half when the surtax is completely
suspended. The projected deficit is large, although
smaller than in several quarters of 1967.
In addition to adjustments in tax rates, the movement
of the budget into deficit in 1970 reflects the projected
economic slowdown.
This is indicated by the contrast
between the NIA surplus or deficit with the high employ
ment budget. The high employment budget abstracts from
changes in the rate of economic growth, and it continues
to register a small surplus through 1970.

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There is already a substantial degree of monetary
restraint in force.
Growth rates of all the major
monetary aggregates showed sizable declines in the
first
half, and even larger reductions in the third
quarter. Growth in total reserves on a three-month
moving average basis was deeply negative in the third
quarter and has exhibited a weaker performance all
year than in 1966. The sizable attrition of negotiable
CD's that began early this year was joined during the
spring and summer months by a run-off of consumer time
and savings deposits. As a result, we have witnessed
the longest and deepest decline in total time deposits
of the postwar period.
While monetary restraint has reduced the growth
rate of the money supply, the relatively high rate of
expansion in current dollar GNP thus far in 1969 has
sustained demands for transactions balances. Conse
quently, money supply growth, while moderating, has
remained somewhat above the 1966 rate. Total bank
credit growth has been lower than in 1966, because
of the heavy attrition of time deposits. If adjust
ments are made for nondeposit funds not reflected in
bank balance sheets, bank credit growth in 1969 would
still be smaller than in 1966.
Indications of financial pressure are also
evident in interest rate developments. Short- and
long-term rates in all sectors have advanced through
most of this year, and especially in the third quarterwhen GNP growth and corresponding credit demands con
tinued strong, while the supply of available funds was
severely constrained. Even though expectational factors
have induced some decline in rates recently, the effects
of mounting pressures in credit markets have begun to be
felt throughout all sectors of the economy.
These pressures have fallen with particular force
on the banking system. Liquidity ratios have declined
materially this year--to levels below those experienced
in 1966, not only at New York banks but also at other
weekly reporting member banks. With liquidity reduced,
the ability of commercial banks to finance additional
credit demands has depended increasingly on their
success in obtaining nondeposit sources of funds, which
have become more difficult and costly to obtain, partly
as a result of regulatory actions. Other financial
intermediaries, such as thrift institutions and insurance
companies, have also experienced growing restraint on
their ability to accommodate credit demands because funds
inflows have declined, policy loans have advanced, and
liquidity positions have deteriorated.

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These pressures on financial institutions have
begun to affect borrowing patterns in the nonfinancial
sectors.
Thus, the annual growth rate of corporate bank
loans has declined considerably since mid-year.
With
total investment continuing to advance this summer, the
slowdown in bank loan growth to businesses appears to be
attributable to effective rationing.
This decline in bank loan growth has not been
fully offset by increased dependence on other sources of
funds. In particular, market borrowing, including issues
of commercial paper as well as bonds and stocks, also
declined a little in the third quarter. Consequently,
total borrowing of the corporate sector has fallen this
summer, and liquid assets have been drawn down.
State and local governments have been more severely
affected by increased monetary restraint. Long-term
borrowing by these governmental units has declined sharply
this summer in response to higher interest rates, and
short-term borrowing has dropped even more from the
exceptionally high rate earlier this year--perhaps partly
in response to reductions in available bank funds. Total
borrowing, consequently, has fallen markedly.
It seems
governments have been forced
likely that State and local
to re-evaluate and reduce their capital spending plans
in response to these financial problems.
In considering an appropriate set of policy assump
tions for the future, we have tried to take into account
the continuing effects of restraint in the nonfinancial
sectors that has resulted from tighter monetary policies
during 1969--as reflected in the behavior of total reserves,
Our policy
money supply, time deposits, and bank credit.
assumptions, however, call for only a gradual move toward
less restraint--and one that does not begin until after
the turn of the year, when the nature of the economic
adjustment that now seems in prospect will be clearer.
Because the less restrictive posture of monetary
policy is assumed to begin in the first
quarter of 1970,
total reserves are projected to decline a little
in the
Growth in total reserves is
last quarter of this year.
half of
resumed at about a 2 per cent rate in the first
1970 with the rate advancing to about 4 per cent in the
second half of the year.
With the gradual change in policy assumed, total
time deposit growth would remain relatively small in the
first half of next year, since market interest rates in
the first quarter would still average near current levels.
Thereafter, time deposit growth should pick up, since

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projected GNP growth is slower, and interest rates should
decline in response to this and the larger reserve addi
tions.
Growth in money supply also would be expected to
pick up a little in the first half, and then rise to about
a 4 per cent rate in the second half of the year, when
projected reserve injections are a bit larger.
On the asset side, we would expect bank creditmeasured on an end-of-month basis--to correspond closely
to the projected increases in deposits.
Thus, bank credit
growth might increase gradually to about a 5 per cent rate
in the second half of 1970.
Given projected economic
developments, we would not expect banks to face loan
demands sufficient to generate large inflows of Euro-dollars
or other nondeposit sources of funds reflected on bank
balance sheets.
The moderate path of monetary and credit expansion
envisaged is characterized by projected developments in
the CD market.
Yields on 3-month Treasury bills, given
our GNP projection and our assumptions about reserve
growth, might decline to a range of 6 - 6-1/4 per cent
by mid-year. On the assumption that CD rate ceilings are
unchanged--an effort at realism rather than a staff
preference--the relationships between market yields and
CD ceilings would likely lead to a continued run-off of
outstandings through the first
quarter of next year.
Thereafter, only very modest growth in outstandings would
be expected--with the level by December 1970 only a little
higher than at present.
We have also assumed unchanged Regulation Q ceilings
on consumer-type time and savings deposits, so that growth
in these claims would respond mainly to developments in
market security yields.
Growth in consumer deposits at
banks--that is, all time and savings deposits other than
CD's would resume, but the rate of growth would be barely
above zero in the first
half of next year, since first
quarter gains would be held down by outflows during the
January interest-crediting period.
The projected gain
in the second half also is relatively small, reflecting
the limited decline expected in market interest rates.
Growth of nonbank savings accounts is likely to
follow a similar pattern. With rate ceilings unchanged,
inflows to thrift institutions should resume after the
January reinvestment period and increase gradually over
time as market rates decline.
These policy assumptions seem to us a cautious approach
to resumption of expansion in the monetary and credit aggre
gates. We turn now to the analysis of nonfinancial develop
ments that might emerge with this projected course of policy.

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Mr.

Wernick made the following comments on nonfinancial

developments:
The bite of monetary and fiscal policy has become
evident in many indicators of economic activity. Retail
sales growth has continued sluggish, lending credence to
the findings of recent surveys that consumers are re
stricting their purchases because of concern about higher
prices, tight money, and future prospects. The two-month
dip in industrial production in August and September re
flects an important change in the thrust of the economy
and is in sharp contrast to the 6 per cent annual rate
of increase earlier this year.
The trend in unfilled orders for durables has re
mained fairly level in recent months, and seems to be
in line with a moderation in economic activity. Mean
while, employer hiring decisions have apparently begun
to respond to weakening demands, and growth in nonagri
cultural employment has slowed appreciably this summer.
With monetary policy assumed to remain very re
strictive into early 1970, current indicators seem to imply
a decline in GNP growth over the next few quarters.
The
critical questions are how much and for how long? We
anticipate that in the first half of next year, gains in
final sales will be appreciably lower, and inventory
investment will be weaker, than in the third quarter of
this year. Dollar gains in GNP should taper off to about
$7 billion, and real growth probably will be at or below
zero.
After midyear, GNP growth is projected to pick up
again. Consumer buying should be buoyed by tax cuts and
a Federal pay increase, while housing starts will be
turning up as funds become more available.
We think that
real growth can be held to moderate proportions, rising
perhaps to 3 per cent by year's end. This would be some
what less than the expected growth in resources, and it
would imply some easing in pressures on costs and prices.
The principal factor pointing to a stronger second
half is the likelihood that Government spending will
become more stimulative. The higher spending totals,
however, are not likely to appear in Federal purchases
of goods and services. In fact, Federal purchases are
anticipated to resume a downward trend this quarter
and to decline further until mid-1970 as defense spending
is curtailed. A civilian and military pay raise in the
third quarter of next year would raise these purchases
somewhat.

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But in all probability other NIA expenditures will
be increasing much faster next year.
The projected
step-up reflects increased social security benefits,
higher costs of proposed and current welfare programs,
and growth in such noncontrollable items as interest
and veterans payments.
State and local government capital expenditures
will probably be limited in the coming year by high
interest rates.
However, other State and local govern
ment purchases will continue to increase, and the total
would thus rise only a little less rapidly than during
the past year.
High borrowing costs and limited supplies of
available funds have already cut housing starts by
Despite the September rise, we think
almost one-fourth.
housing starts are likely to continue to recede, perhaps
to an annual rate of 1.0 million units in the spring.
Important factors in this assessment include the low
level of savings inflow to mortgage lending institutions,
the probability of large outflows in January, and the
fact that builders and buyers will increasingly resist
high interest rates.
As funds begin to become more
readily available next spring, starts should turn up.
But we foresee only a moderate rise at first, reflecting
the usual lag as builders gear up.
Residential expenditures will lag further behind,
so that our starts projection would not bring any sig
nificant upturn in GNP expenditures before the final
quarter of the year.
While housing outlays have been in a declining
trend, business fixed expenditures have continued to
rise steadily this year.
However, output of business
equipment has begun to level off recently, and new
orders for machinery and equipment were drifting down
ward prior to the sharp jump in September, which was
due in part, apparently, to special factors.
We expect only modest further increases in
business fixed investment expenditures in this and
the coming quarter, in line with the Commerce-SEC
survey. Thereafter, with the growth in final demands
projected to level off, the investment tax credit elimi
nated, and profits declining under strong upward cost
pressures, it seems doubtful that earlier plans to in
crease business investment spending will be realized.
We are projecting expenditures to remain level after
the first
quarter, implying a year-over-year increase
of about 4 per cent.

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Growth in consumer expenditures has already
slowed, despite substantial gains in disposable income.
Much of the easing in total expenditures affected durable
goods purchases, with sales of appliances, furniture,
and other household durables noticeably weaker.
The reduction in the surcharge to 5 per cent in
January and higher social security benefits in April
should tend to support disposable income and consumption
But shorter workweeks
half of next year.
in the first
and more limited employment gains are expected to be
We would thus expect a rise of only
dampening factors.
modest proportions in consumer expenditures, with
durable goods sales continuing weak.
After midyear, disposable income should climb more
strongly with the elimination of the surcharge, another
boost in Federal pay, and a rebound in output. But
this should have limited effects on consumption, since
a moderate rise in the savings rate seems probable with
The 6.7 per cent savings rate we are
the surtax off.
projecting for the second half would be less than in
other recent years prior to the surcharge.
Partly because retail sales were sluggish,
inventory investment increased last quarter. The ratio
of durable goods inventories to unfilled orders, a
fairly reliable indicator of excessive inventories, has
risen significantly, and is now higher than in late 1966.
In the current quarter there may be some unintended
stock-building, which will increase the probability of
a decline in inventory investment early next year. The
slowing we have projected over the year is more modest
than in most earlier inventory adjustments, in part
because the projected reduction in real output is small
and business confidence in future prospects apparently
continues strong. Nevertheless, the slower pace of
inventory accumulation would result in cutbacks in
industrial production and employment in the first half
of next year.
Growth in employment has already moderated. With
industrial employment projected to decline and other
sectors showing less strength, employment gains should
continue weak through the first
half of next year.
In
fact, we would also expect employment gains to remain
relatively small in the latter half of the year since
productivity gains usually accelerate as output picks up.
A marked easing in employment in the past has been
associated with a slower growth of the labor force.

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Next year, the labor force is anticipated to increase
at about a 1.5 million rate--less than the very sharp
rise over the past year, but in line with normal labor
force growth.
With employment gains smaller than the rise in the
labor force, the unemployment rate is expected to rise
to about 4.5 per cent by midyear and to about 5 per cent
by year end.
Reduced demands for labor, a shorter workweek, and
less premium pay should dampen somewhat the increase in
average hourly compensation in manufacturing next year.
In addition, employer resistance to increased wage costsreinforced by shrinking profits and weaker marketsshould stiffen markedly. But having seen past wage gains
eroded by rapidly rising prices, unions are expected to
demand even larger wage increases and to strike to get
them. On balance, we have assumed that average hourly
compensation in 1970 will increase a little
less than
this year.
For the year 1970 as a whole, productivity gains
should also be smaller, as they usually are in years
of slower economic growth. With hourly compensation
and productivity both increasing a little less rapidly,
unit labor costs would continue to advance at about a
4 per cent rate for the year as a whole. But after
midyear, as output picks up, productivity gains should
be substantially larger than in the first half, and
upward pressures on costs and prices should moderate.
For the present, labor and other costs are con
tinuing to climb and industrial prices are moving up
at a fast pace. But if business demands and pressures
on resources slacken, the advance in industrial prices
should gradually slow.
We would expect the slowing
trend to be more apparent in the latter part of the
Prices of farm and food
year, as cost pressures ease.
products are expected to be more stable next year
and to contribute to a slowing in the rise in the over-all
wholesale price index.
There is some hope, also, for moderation in the
rise of consumer goods prices. In particular, prices
of nonfood commodities should respond to the slower
pace of industrial prices. Although service prices and
the total CPI seem certain to continue climbing at a
fast rate, the rise may be slowed somewhat if mortgage
interest rates increase less rapidly--especially in the
latter part of next year.

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On balance, we expect real GNP growth to turn
negative in the first half of next year, and then
to rise moderately. With pressures on resources
easing throughout the year, we would expect a gradual
slowing in the rate of inflation, with the increase
in the GNP deflator down to about 3 per cent by the
end of 1970.
Mr. Hersey presented the following comments on the balance
of payments projection:
We have provided you with a table giving our
projection of the U.S. balance of payments a year ahead.
Every figure in this projection ought to be read as the
center of a range of possibilities. With that said, it
may be useful to summarize the projection now, before we
look at the parts. In brief, comparing 1970 with 1969,
we look for a goods and services net export balance
better by nearly $2 billion; we expect a small decrease
in the net outflow of U.S. Government grants and loans,
more than offset, however, by an increase of about $1
billion in net identified outflows of private capital;
and we think it reasonable to suppose that adverse pay
ments classed as "errors and omissions" because of lack
of information will be about $2 billion smaller. The
over-all balance to be financed by Euro-dollar borrowings
of U.S. banks and by official reserve transactions would
thus improve perhaps by $3 billion, from a deficit of
about $8 billion this year to one in a range of $4 to
$6 billion in 1970.
We look for improvement in the trade account
because one of our basic assumptions is less buoyant
demand in the United States than abroad. Demand in
other industrial countries for our exports depends
greatly on levels of industrial activity. The composite
index for other industrial countries, after a slowdown
from mid-1966 till a year later--notably in Germany, has
recently been rising faster than our index. Beginning
in the present quarter, and until late next year, a
wide divergence between the trends in activity here and
abroad should help to enlarge the U.S. trade surplus.
We are beginning to see the export prices of our
chief competitors tilt upward under the pressure of full
capacity utilization and rising wage demands. British
export prices dropped sharply in terms of dollars
through devaluation of sterling in November 1967, but
they have risen some since then. Japanese export prices
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which declined during and after the 1967 recession,
rebounded sharply beginning late in 1968--probably
reflecting the addition by exporters of the 4 per cent
border tax adjustment--and may rise somewhat further now,
since the 9 per cent revaluation of the mark amply exceeds
the rescinded border tax adjustment.
It is abundantly clear,
however, that U.S. export prices for manufacturers have
been going up recently as fast or faster than the others.
When the cooling of the U.S. economy being projected today
materializes we may hope for more favorable comparisons.
Given this background, and the encouraging trade
figures of recent months, we expect the merchandise export
surplus to recover to about $2 billion next year. How
ever, by the second half of 1970 imports will probably
again be rising faster than exports, if we can assume that
past relationships to the various causal factors continue
to apply.
Even with reasonable stability in the U.S.
economy, further gains in the trade balance would then
depend on stronger demand pressures abroad than are now
projected, on faster cost and price advances abroad than
here, or on additional exchange rate adjustments.
One indicator of the depth of our difficulties in
foreign trade is the steeper rise in import buying than
in total expenditures in the U.S. economy. At times of
setbacks in U.S. demand--as in 1960, or 1967--the pro
pensity to import dips; but the relationship has been
shifting upward since 1964.
Our projection of a very
slow rise in the next few quarters represents a falling
below the longer-term trend.
The decline in the goods and services balance to
the middle of this year reflected mainly the developments
in merchandise trade. Another unfavorable factor was the
rise in interest payments on our greatly enlarged borrow
ings from foreigners, plus dividends on foreign holdings
of U.S. equities.
Income paid to foreign investors, banks,
and central banks is estimated to be $1-1/2 billion more
this year than last. Next year such payments would rise
much more slowly as interest rates ease down.
In the
present projection U.S. military expenditures abroad are
carried forward at close to the present $5 billion rate.
Projecting capital movements now is difficult
because of possible changes in the control programs,
uncertainty about trends in the portfolio preferences of
foreign investors, and the difficulties of forecasting
changes in interest rates and equity markets abroad as
well as here.
From the latter part of 1967 until early
this year we benefited greatly from large inflows of
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U. S. corporations. Even though the outflow of U.S.
capital was large, the net balance of the two flows was
inward for about a year. As you know, the inflow of
foreign capital for investment in U.S. securities de
clined abruptly last spring. We look for a gradual
increase from now on. On the other hand, the outflow
of U. S. capital, though probably shrinking before the
year end, is likely to be larger next year.
U.S. manufacturing companies' projections of plant
and equipment outlays by their foreign subsidiaries
indicate a new surge of capital flow to finance the sub
sidiaries. It should be noted that our flow projections
make no allowance for the loosening of the direct in
vestment control program which seems to be in the cards.
Even without allowing for liberalization, the part
of the corporate outflow financed by U.S. funds--that
is, after deducting the "Delaware corporation" type of
borrowing--is expected to be nearly $1 billion higher
next year than in 1969, and $2 billion higher than the
1968 amount. This U.S. funds outflow will be as large as
before the mandatory control program--though still low
in relation to the rising requirements of the foreign
subsidiaries.
For the outflow of U.S. bank credit, we assumed
in this projection that the VFCR would not be changed
materially and we allowed for only a small outflow. If
additional leeway is provided for export credits, a very
rough guess is that the outflow might be $1/2 billion
larger than we assumed.
Perhaps the most striking feature of the U.S.
balance of payments this year has been the massive in
crease in borrowing of foreign liquid funds by U.S. banks.
This inflow has sheltered our reserve position, and even
yielded surpluses on the official settlements basis from
the second quarter of 1968 through the second quarter
of this year. But since July these liabilities have not
increased much.
The adjusted over-all balance, which this year has
run slightly less unfavorably than the published liquidity
balance, sums up the current account plus all capital
flows except the Euro-dollar borrowing plus "errors and
omissions," which were extraordinarily large in the first
half of this year. We think that unrecorded movements of
funds into Euro-dollars and German marks in the second
quarter may have been at an annual rate around $5 billion.
As these outflows subside, and as recorded capital flows
and the trade balance improve, the deficit is becoming
smaller in the current half year as measured on the

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liquidity basis or on the virtually identical adjusted
over-all basis. Next year, though smaller than in 1969,
it will probably still be larger than in any year before

1969. The range of uncertainty is wide, and, I think,
may be wider than we have indicated. Even more uncertain
is the future of the official settlements deficit. We
would need to have a conviction about the direction of
change in liabilities to foreign commercial banks before
we could decide whether to project this deficit as
smaller or larger than the projection of the liquidity
deficit.
The massive overhang of liabilities to commercial
banks abroad, at a time when the underlying deficit
remains very large, creates a danger of a very rapid
buildup in foreign official claims against us, should U.S.
banks decide, under changing market conditions, to reduce
these borrowings considerably. This situation makes it
highly important to be able to demonstrate to foreign
countries that the United States has not been negligent
in efforts to restore stability in the domestic economy.
Mr. Partee concluded the presentation with the following
remarks:
Economic projections for as long as five quarters
ahead always contain potentially large margins of error.
This is especially true of the GNP projection just pre
sented--if it captures correctly the contours of economic
developments in 1970. If real GNP growth does fall to
zero or a little below in the first half of next year,
economic weaknesses in some sectors could spread to others,
and carry us into a deeper and more prolonged economic
slowdown than we now foresee. This would create strong
pressures for remedial action and perhaps undermine the
basis for price stability later on.
On the other hand, our projection calls for a resump
tion of economic growth in the second half of next year.
A more expansive fiscal policy than we have assumed, or
continuance of the present degree of inflationary psychol
ogy in the business community, could add excessively to
that rebound. A revival of growth to the degree we are
projecting would not destroy prospects for getting
inflation under control. But these prospects would be
seriously jeopardized if, after a first-half slowdown,
real growth were to resume as rapidly as it did, say, in
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Our projection assumes a good deal of additional
fiscal stimulus in 1970, especially after midyear,
but we have not assumed the worst. If the surcharge were
eliminated entirely as of January 1, it would give a very
large boost to disposable income in the first half, and
would increase the prospects for an early rebound in
final demand. And it could be that more dramatic in
creases in Federal expenditures will develop, especially
if the expected decline in defense spending does not
materialize.
There are also possibilities for major error in
our projection for private spending. Probably the most
important is in business fixed investment, which could be
either stronger or weaker than we have assumed. Arguing
for more strength is the persistence of inflationary
psychology, the pressing need to cut costs, the results
of two rather fragmentary private spending surveys, and
the unexpected upsurge in September new orders for
machinery and equipment. But there are equally impres
sive considerations arguing for greater weakness--includ
ing the current and projected trend of final demands, the
indicated downdrift in capacity utilization, the tightness
and high cost of money, and the probability of a fairly
severe profits squeeze. Under the circumstances, I think
the projection of no change in expenditures after the
first quarter is the better part of valor.
For housing, a strong case can be made for further
declines from present levels, given the current state of
the mortgage market. But we have no strong convictions
as to how far down the bottom is, though it seems certain
to occur in the first half of next year, given our policy
assumptions. A month or so ago, the outlook seemed so
bleak that a drop in starts to around the one million
level appeared inevitable. But the upward revisions of
starts for August, together with the unexpected rise in
September, suggest that there may be a little more life
in this sector than we had bargained for.
In the inventory area, on the other hand, the
potential weaknesses could be greater than we now expect.
Ratios of durable goods inventories to unfilled orders
have risen considerably since last spring, and are now
above the levels of late 1966 and early 1967. We expect
a much smaller adjustment in inventory investment this
time mainly because the short-fall in sales is also
projected to be small, and because businesses probably
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prices are still rising and a second-half rebound seems
probable. But if expectations about final sales and
prices were to change materially early next year, the
rate of inventory accumulation could fall far more
sharply than projected here. This is always a much more
volatile sector, looking backward, than one is willing
to project ahead.
Another volatile area, at least in its component
parts, is the balance of payments. Our projection calls
for some improvement next year in the liquidity balancebased mainly on a cyclical recovery in the current ac
count surplus. Monthly foreign trade reports are
encouraging, and growth in our imports should moderate
with the projected slowdown in the domestic economy.
But it should be emphasized that, in the capital flows
part of the projection, we have assumed no further easing
in Department of Commerce or VFCR restraints. And, in
any case, a projected deficit of around $5 billion during
a cyclically propitious year underscores the fundamental
importance of getting inflation under control.
The case for projecting moderation in both economic
growth and in price pressures next year rests fundamen
tally on the belief that monetary restraints currently
in place will be taking their toll in spending. The
projected course of monetary policy is, I believe, in
keeping with the uncertainties of the situation we face.
The resumption of monetary expansion is assumed to be
gradual, and growth of the major monetary aggregates next
year would remain far below the high rates of 1968.
Indeed, the projected rates of growth of some of the
aggregates--such as time deposits--would remain below
longer-run norms throughout the year, since in the
financial environment we are projecting interest rates
on market securities would remain very high for a period
of economic slack.
The continuation of relatively high market interest
rates results, in part, from the growing amount of credit
needed by the Federal Government and the Federal lending
agencies. Budgetary borrowing on a seasonally adjusted
basis should remain relatively small until the second
half of calendar 1970. But then the budget will be
moving into deficit, and the Treasury will be coming to
market for a substantial volume of funds.
Borrowing of Federally sponsored agencies, meanwhile,
is projected to continue at relatively high levels in the
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mortgage market by FNMA. These borrowings should
decline by the latter half of 1970, fortunately, as
projected fund inflows to the nonbank intermediaries
improve.
In the private economy, over-all credit flows
consistent with our projection would not be excessively
large, but private security offerings should be sub
stantial. Borrowings by municipal governments, as
indicated earlier, have been held down recently by high
rates of interest, and these governments should be a
major source of sustained credit demands next year.
Also, corporate nonfinancial businesses are expected
to be relatively large borrowers in the securities
markets, as projected spending for fixed investment is
reasonably well maintained in the face of a sharp
decline in profits.
Given the credit demands projected, and our
assumptions about monetary policy, the emerging pattern
of financial flows does not seem to be one which would
actively stimulate the economy. The share of funds
supplied by commercial banks, for example, would rise
to only a little more than 10 per cent in the first
half of next year, and then edge up to 20 per cent in
the final six months.
The major nonbank savings institutions, meanwhile,
are projected to show only modest growth rates of
deposit accounts, and the increase in their share of
total funds raised would be correspondingly small.
Financing the projected GNP, consequently,would
require that the nonbank public--that is, businesses,
consumers, and State and local governments--continue to
be major direct lenders in credit markets by purchasing
market securities. Indeed, the projected proportion of
total funds supplied by the public in 1970--32 per cent
in the first half and 23 per cent in the second--is an
amount that historically has characterized a period of
substantial monetary restraint.
Consistent with these fund flows is a pattern of
interest rate movements--as best we can judge themwhich seems to confirm the view that projected credit
market developments would not give rise to much stimulus
to spending next year. For bill rates, we would expect
a decline to the 6 to 6-1/4 per cent range by the second
quarter of 1970. There could be a gentle rise in bill
rates thereafter, if economic activity picks up in the
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For longer-term interest rates projected declines
are even more modest,in line with our expectations
that demands for long-term funds will be strong. Indeed,
mortgage rates are expected to drift up a little further
from present levels, since these rates are always slow
in responding to general changes in credit market
conditions.
Obtaining the projected rates of interest and the
associated growth rates of the monetary aggregates would,
at some point down the road, require an easing of money
market conditions. Since May of this year, net borrowed
reserves have edged down a little while the Federal funds
rate has risen moderately, following the sharp run-up in
the first five months. But the monetary aggregates and
also market interest rates have both been signaling a
marked intensification of monetary restraint over this
period.
If the economy weakens as we are projecting, holding
money market conditions unchanged would mean that we
would be operating against the direction of market forces,
and this would lower the growth rate of the money supply
and other monetary aggregates further. Although con
sistency with our projection would not require overt
policy action at this time to lead the market down, it
does presuppose a readiness to accommodate declines in
interest rates initiated by the market. Subsequently,
more positive steps would be needed to encourage
resumption of adequate longer-run growth in the monetary
aggregates.
For the moment, however, I would no longer recommend
an immediate change in the stance of monetary policy,
given the puzzling character of some of the recent economic
indicators and the still unknown potential for more fiscal
stimulus early next year. For this meeting, I believe
that prudence calls for the adoption of the "no change"
policy specified in alternative A of the directive.1/
I still believe that the odds favor further development
of economic weaknesses along the lines that we have pro
jected, and I also feel that policy has been and is too
restrictive to be viable for very long. But there is
enough current uncertainty about the outlook to justify
keeping taut pressure on the system for a little while
longer, until the near-term outlook comes into sharper
focus again.
1/ The alternative draft directives submitted by the staff for
Committee consideration are appended to this memorandum as Attach
ment A.

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Mr. Coldwell noted that in the staff's projection growth
in dollar GNP was expected to fall from an annual rate of over
$17

billion in the third quarter of 1969 to about $7 billion in

the first two quarters of 1970, and that real GNP was expected to
decline slightly in the latter period.

He asked whether his

understanding was correct that that outlook was predicated largely
on expected developments with respect to business inventories.
Mr. Partee replied that developments in most expenditure
categories were expected to contribute to the weaker performance
of GNP in the first half of 1970.

Thus, the projections suggested

that plant and equipment outlays would level off, that residential
construction expenditures would decline sharply further, that
Federal purchases would continue to edge down, and that consumer
spending would not be notably strong.

It was true, however, that

a turnabout in the inventory situation--from sizable accumulation
in the third quarter to a more moderate rate of investment in the
first half of 1970--was one of the factors underlying the projection
of no growth in GNP in the latter period.

Moreover, as he had

indicated in his remarks during the chart show, the inventory
turnaround could well be sharper than implied in the projections.
Mr. Heflin noted that Federal expenditures on goods and

services, which had increased at nearly an 11 per cent annual rate
in the third quarter, were projected to be declining at a rate of
over 8 per cent in the second quarter of 1970.

He asked whether

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that projection was based simply on a staff assessment of informa
tion available publicly, or whether it had been possible to get
additional information from Government agencies.
Mr. Gramley replied that the projection in question
represented the staff's best judgment after discussing prospects
for Federal spending, including defense spending, with people in
various agencies--particularly the Bureau of the Budget.

While

the staff had tried to get as much information as possible on the
views of people in those agencies, it had felt free to exercise
its own judgment when individual figures mentioned seemed to be
outside the bounds of reasonable expectation.

Particular attention

had been given to the question of whether it was realistic to expect
budget outlays in fiscal 1970 to be held to the assumed level of
$192.9 billion.

While there had been some indications that it

might not prove possible to hold outlays down to that level, it

appeared that defense spending would decline sufficiently so that
any excess over that figure was not likely to be great.
Mr. Gramley added that the projection of a considerable
expansion in Federal spending in the second half of 1970 reflected
anticipated developments with respect to the uncontrollable items
in the budget and an expectation of a substantial rise in welfare
outlays.

It was hard to say just how large the rise would be; the

figures shown in the tables were simply the staff's best guess at
the moment.

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Mr. Partee remarked that in his judgment any errors in the
projected rise in Federal spending in the second half of 1970 were
more likely to be on the side of understatement than overstatement.
He was impressed by the number of areas in which Federal spending
was likely to be expanding then.
In reply to questions by Mr. Daane, Mr. Gramley said that
the projections assumed that the Federal budget on the NIA basis
would shift into deficit in the second quarter of 1970 and that the
deficit would deepen later in the year.

No allowance had been made

for possible reductions in Federal income taxes that might be asso
ciated with tax reform legislation since passage of such legislation
was still uncertain and, in any case, the main impact of any result
ing reductions in taxes would not be felt until 1971.
Mr. Brimmer noted that the projections suggested that the
deficit in the Federal budget on the NIA basis in calendar 1970
would be $5 billion, roughly the same as in 1968.

However, the trend

during successive quarters of 1968 had been from deficit to surplus,
whereas it was expected to be in the opposite direction in 1970.
Mr. Gramley agreed.

He added that it was worth emphasizing

that a Federal deficit was anticipated in 1970 not only because of the
impact on receipts of the expected reduction, and then elimination,
of the surtax, but also because of the effect of slower growth in
personal income and corporate profits.

The high employment budget

gave a better picture of the expected impact of fiscal policy

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on the economy.

The budgets on both bases suggested a considerable

increase in the degree of fiscal stimulus in 1970, but the NIA
budget exaggerated the amount of the increase.
Mr. Brimmer remarked that from the standpoint of monetary
policy it was significant that the Government's financing problems
would become increasingly severe as the year progressed.
Mr. Gramley concurred, noting that the projections implied
that Treasury borrowing would be at about a $6.5 billion annual
rate in the first half of 1970 and at about a $14.5 billion rate
in the second half.
The Chairman then called for the go-around of comments and
views on economic conditions and monetary policy, beginning with
Mr. Hayes, who commented as follows:
At our last meeting most of the Committee agreed
that there was as yet no basis for a change of policy,
in view of the fact that combatting inflation remained
our most important objective, and that there was as
yet only fragmentary evidence of an approaching slow
down significant enough to assure real progress in
attaining our anti-inflationary objective. It seems
to me that nothing has happened since that meeting to
justify any different conclusion.
The most recent business indicators have presented
a highly mixed picture. While it does appear that
demand pressures have abated somewhat in recent months,
they remain excessive. The economy may slow further,
but any forecast of a significant slowing rests im
portantly on assumptions about a prospective inventory
adjustment and weakness in home building that may not be
borne out. Retail sales figures have been a bit
stronger than they were earlier, and housing seems to
have put on some renewed strength in the past two
months--however temporary this strength may prove to be.

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The recent jump in durables new orders plus the renewed
advance in the composite leading indicators suggest how
uncertain prospects for the expected slowdown may be.
Even though the Federal Budget is likely to show an
appreciable surplus this fiscal year, fiscal policy
will probably swing rapidly during calendar 1970 toward
a much less restrictive or even a stimulative posture,
in the light of large prospective Federal spending
increases and the prospective reduction in the surtax
and its subsequent expiration.
I should note that the extension of the surcharge
at 5 per cent is by no means a foregone conclusion.
There is also a prospect of several expansionary fiscal
measures, including a postal pay increase, a further
civil service pay increase, and increases in social
security benefits. While timing and the exact magnitudes
are uncertain, there is considerable political pressure
in each case for an effective date at the beginning of
1970. Indeed, on one pessimistic computation, the extra
disposable income resulting from possible fiscal actions
on taxes, pay, and benefits might be well over $10
billion, at an annual rate, in the first quarter of 1970.
Meanwhile, price inflation shows only faint signs
of abatement, if any. I was especially impressed by the
pervasiveness of the increases in industrial wholesale
prices throughout the range of industries in September.
Wage pressures remain intense, and the labor strikes
expected over the coming months could add to inflationary
pressures by stimulating precautionary inventory demand
as well as supply bottlenecks. I would hope that a
moderate rise in the over-all unemployment statistics
would not bring political pressure for a premature easing
of much-needed fiscal and monetary restraint.
In fact, there has been very little easing in the
labor market so far. On the other hand, inflationary
expectations remain strong and pervasive. Businessmen
expect the slowdown to be very moderate and short, and
act accordingly in maintaining, by and large, their
optimistic plans for capital spending. It might be
significant in this connection that corporate profits
have been holding up surprisingly well.
The German mark revaluation is, of course, a
distinctly useful development from the standpoint of
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the balance of payments situation remains essentially
very unfavorable, and prospects for a significant
near-term improvement are lacking. One relatively
bright spot may be the resumption in the coming
months of heavy foreign inflows into our stock market
as off-shore funds and other institutional investors
reinvest their current large cash holdings in U.S.
equities.
But the only real hope for our balance of
payments lies in the restoration of a reasonable
current account surplus which cannot be achieved
without an adequate cooling of the domestic economy.
Such statistics as have become available on the
principal money and credit aggregates do not change
materially the assessment made at the last meeting.
The banking system continues to be under very sub
stantial restraint, and the recent growth of the
aggregates has been lower than would be desirable
over a prolonged period. But since this comes on top
of rather generous growth in the early months of 1969,
I do not feel it has been a mark of excessive restraint.
Based on end-of-month figures, bank credit has grown
at a rate of about 3 per cent for the year to date
after adjustment for loan sales to affiliates. Over
the same period the money supply has also grown at a
rate of about 3 per cent. While the CD outflow appears
to be moderating, in good part this reflects a switch
ing of foreign official and international deposits from
the foreign branches of U.S. banks to their head offices,
especially in New York.
It is in the areas of interest rates and market
expectations that we have seen the principal change
since our last meeting. A sharp drop in intermediate
and long-term yields has been encouraged by a steady
flow of reports and comments from Washington and else
where of a cooling in the economy, by growing hopes of
further progress toward peace in Vietnam, and by expecta
tions of an impending change in monetary policy. The
further this rate decline goes, the more risk there will
be of a severe reaction should these expectations fail
Thus,the partial reversal of rate
to be fulfilled.
movements in the past few days strikes me as a healthy
development.
We are still a long way from achieving our objective
of checking the inflationary spiral, and there is room
for doubt as to whether a sufficient cooling of the
economy is in the offing. Under these conditions I
believe we should make no change in our policy of firm

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restraint, nor should we make any moves that could easily
be interpreted as a change of policy in the current deli
cate psychological climate. Thus,for the second paragraph
of the directive I would favor alternative A, which is
identical with the second paragraph adopted at our last
meeting. The marginal reserve targets mentioned at the
last meeting should be retained--that is, borrowings in
a range of $1 billion to $1.5 billion, net borrowed
reserves of $900 million to $1.2 billion, and Federal
funds rates generally within a span of 8-1/2 to 9-1/2
per cent. As for the Treasury 3-month bill rate, the
range of 6-3/4 to 7-1/4 per cent mentioned in the blue
book might be compatible with the other targets. As far
as the proviso clause is concerned, I would welcome some
increase in the credit proxy such as the November projec
tions imply. In light of the delicate psychological
climate, however, I would not like to see the proviso
clause invoked on either side unless the deviation from
the projections is quite large.
Mr. Francis noted that the money supply, bank reserves, and
Federal Reserve credit had continued to show no increase for five
months.

In view of the usual lags between those magnitudes and

total spending, the nation probably faced a sharp decline of total
demand for goods and services in the near future, and, indeed, the
process might already have begun.

In the late summer and early

fall some effects from the moderate restraint on monetary expansion
in the first five months of the year appeared in the data on indus
trial production, employment, and housing.

Much more marked effects

on the economy resulting from the increased monetary restraint of
the most recent five months might be expected during the next
several quarters.
The Committee now had a choice of whether to continue the
current degree of restraint or relax it, Mr. Francis said.

No one

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knew exactly what the impact of the Committee's past and future
actions would be on forthcoming economic activity and with what
lags.

However, the Board's staff had today provided the Committee

with projections, and he would submit for the record a copy of
projections made at the St. Louis Reserve Bank.projections had been made by the Bank's staff:

Two alternative
one based on the

assumption that money expanded at a 3 per cent rate beginning
immediately, and the other based on the assumption that money was
continued unchanged until the January meeting of the Committee
and then increased at a 3 per cent rate.
The studies made at his Bank indicated to Mr. Francis that,
if the System did not permit some growth in key monetary aggregates
beginning now, an unacceptable economic recession would most likely
develop in 1970, which in turn might force the Committee into
inordinate monetary expansion reminiscent of 1967.

If there was

no growth in the money stock until the January meeting of the
Committee and then money was expanded at a 3 per cent rate, his
staff calculated that real GNP would decrease at an average annual
rate of about 2 per cent during the first half of 1970.

But, if

the System started immediately to increase the money supply at an
annual rate of 3 per cent and continued that rate, there would be
only a slight decline in the level of real GNP during the first

1/ The Reserve Bank projections referred to are appended to this
memorandum as Attachment B.

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half of 1970:, and a faster recovery in the second half.

On the

other hand, the tighter stance now would not be of much additional
benefit in reducing inflation more quickly.

In either case, it

appeared to him that the rate of over-all price increase would be
down to about 3 per cent by the end of next year.
This morning's chart show indicated that real GNP would
show little change during the first half of 1970, Mr. Francis
observed.

Implicit in that presentation was a quarter-by-quarter

acceleration in the rate of expansion in money until a 4 per cent
rate was achieved in the last half of next year.

His Bank's studies

indicated that the implied growth in money was too slow for the
next three quarters if the Committee desired to avoid an excessive
slowing in real GNP expansion.
If the System did not moderate its course soon, Mr. Francis
continued, the likelihood was great that it would be following a
course of gyrating policies from one extreme to another--a type
of course which had been followed in the past and for which the
System had criticized itself and had been criticized.

Whether or

not the recent and current extremely restrictive policy was continued,
declines in interest rates might be expected as demands for credit
and inflationary expectations receded, a development which might
already have been started in October.

Following what he believed

was the most appropriate policy, interest rate declines would result
both from the renewed moderate monetary expansion and from declining

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loan demand accompanying slower growth in total spending.

The

decline of interest rates would be comparable in nature to that
of late 1966 and early 1967.
Some suggested that the System dared not take any step
which would be interpreted as easing because that would reinforce
public expectations of excessive demand and inflation, Mr. Francis
remarked.

In his opinion, the conduct of monetary policy by

attempting to control public psychology directly rather than through
control of financial magnitudes had not been and would not be
successful.
In Mr. Francis' opinion, the Committee should take a mix
of three steps immediately if the economy was to avoid further
severe dislocations from monetary actions:

resume moderate monetary

growth; raise the discount rate in line with market interest rates;
and lift Regulation Q ceiling rates, especially for large CD's.
it was believed that any adverse psychological or expectational
effects would develop from any of those actions, they could be
offsetting if the System announced simultaneously--as he believed
it should in any event--that:
1.

It intended to manage its holdings of Government

securities in the near future with a view to achieving a moderate
rate of growth in M1, in contrast with the zero rate of the past
five months and with the 7 per cent rate of 1967-68.

If

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2.

The discount rate was being raised to a point in touch

with short-term money market rates.

The System should announce

that that action was not a further tightening measure and was
neither intended nor expected to raise market interest rates, but
was a technical step to correct an intolerable condition at the
discount window.

It should also announce that it was its intention

to lower the discount rate when and as short-term market rates
declined.
3.
large CD's.

Regulation Q limits were being raised, especially on
It should be announced that that action was intended

neither as a tightening nor as an easing measure, and that it was
not expected as such to raise or lower general market interest
rates; but that the purpose was simply to arrest the extreme
disintermediation which had affected the financial system since
the first of the year.

It might say that that, of course, in no

way precluded reduction of interest rates paid by banks when and
as supply and demand conditions brought down general market rates.
In conclusion, Mr. Francis said he would urge that the
Committee not continue through the remainder of this year its
recent practice of no increase whatsoever in the strategic monetary
magnitudes.
Mr. Kimbrel reported that in the Sixth District, as in the
nation, evidence was appearing which could be interpreted as indi
cating the beginnings of a slowdown.

In September nonfarm employment,

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for example, showed only a diminutive increase, and the unemployment
rate increased fractionally.

The dollar value of plans announced

for new and expanded manufacturing plants in the third quarter for
the Sixth District was down substantially from the second quarter,
thus continuing the declining trend.

Loans at member banks as a

group were being held up only by a decline in investments as the
banks continued to lose time deposits.

Bankers at the District's

larger banks were complaining bitterly about the impact of Regula
tion Q.

A good case could be made that by continuing a policy of

restraint the System was risking a greater reaction than it intended.
Nevertheless, Mr. Kimbrel thought it had to be admitted that
there also were substantial risks involved in moving toward less
restraint.

First of all, there was the risk that the "standard"

forecast that was gradually being accepted could be wrong; such
forecasts had been wrong before.
sive.

It was persuasive but not conclu

Moreover, apparently a great many bankers, businessmen, and

members of the public would welcome a chance, at the first sign of
relaxation, to prove by their actions that those who had forecast
a slackening of inflationary pressures were wrong.
Mr. Kimbrel said that bankers told him that they did not
see any lessening in the demand for loans.

If fewer applicants

were showing up, it was only because would-be borrowers knew that
the banks would turn them down because of a shortage of loanable
funds.

Bankers told him that they believed the first sign of

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relaxation would be immediately followed by an intensification of
loan demands.

When it came to their own operations, some of them

favored relaxation in the hope that it would reduce pressures on
them, not because the demand for credit had fallen off.

Many

businessmen he talked with seemed to be merely waiting for the
signal of relaxation before resuming capital spending that had
been temporarily shelved.

The prevailing mood was an expectation

of continued inflation, and plans were being made accordingly.
Under those circumstances, it seemed to him that the greater risk
was that a move toward relaxation would be interpreted as validating
expectations for continued inflation.
That risk, it seemed to Mr. Kimbrel, was recognized in the
discussion in the blue book of possible developments that might
follow the adoption of a policy toward somewhat less firm conditions
in the money market set forth as alternative B.

It was pointed out

that even a slight easing could raise expectations of further easing.
For those reasons he would, if he had a choice, favor the adoption
of a directive patterned after alternative A.
At the same time, Mr. Kimbrel continued, he was disturbed
over the inordinately tight squeeze into which Regulation Q, along
with the System's present policy of maintaining firm conditions, had
put the banks.

He acknowledged that the banks were the instrument

through which the System had to operate, and, therefore, that the
banks had to feel the impact of any policy of restraint.

Yet, the

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continued decline in time deposits at banks through CD attrition
was adding an element of increasing restraint on the banks when
the System's intention was not to increase restraint but only to
maintain it.
Mr. Bopp said that for some months now, in preparing for
meetings of the Committee, he had tried to evaluate the role of
purely economic forces and the role of expectations.

For a con

siderable period both had been clearly inflationary and had called
for monetary restriction.

More recently, economic forces had

moderated, and they promised to moderate further in months imme
diately ahead.
strong.

However, expectations of inflation had continued

Because of that expectational element, he had been loath

to see any relaxation of restraint.
However, Mr. Bopp continued, a difficult question now was
how to interpret the more buoyant atmosphere in financial markets.
It could reflect a belief that public policy was succeeding in
curbing inflation and that demands in credit markets were slacken
ing.

It could also mean that the market believed the Federal

Reserve was so concerned about rising unemployment that a move
to ease was imminent.

The first explanation assumed that

expectations of inflation had died down; the second, that they
were still strong.
Mr. Bopp hoped the first explanation--that declining rates
signaled reduced demand for funds and a conviction that the

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inflation fight had been won--was true.
of weakening on the demand side, however.

He saw little evidence
For example, the

impression he got from banks in Philadelphia was that the demand
was still there.

Moreover, if inflationary expectations were

weakening--and he was not at all sure that was the case--he
believed they could be revived easily and with the slightest
excuse.
Eventually, of course, the Committee had to ease, Mr. Bopp
observed.

Moreover, there was a danger that if it kept its eyes

focused on the target of interest rates as the real economy slowed
down, it might find the volume of money and credit progressively
declining.

It was even possible that that had already been

happening and explained the continuous decline in total reserves
and deposits in the past few months under a "no change" policy.
If the Committee was to accomplish only modest growth in money
and credit, interest rates probably would have to decline.

The

problem, of course, was that to the extent that the market was
conditioned to following interest rates as a guide to System
policy, it could take such a decline as evidence that inflation
was likely to accelerate after, at best, only a brief slowing down.
In the longer run, Mr. Bopp continued, expectations had
less impact than underlying conditions of the supply of money and
credit.

One could argue, therefore, that even if the market

interpreted a decline in rates as fuel for inflationary expectations,

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those expectations could not survive continued restraint on the
money and credit aggregates.

Nevertheless, in the current atmos

phere, short-run considerations were particularly important, and
expectations could greatly complicate and prolong the Committee's
task of slowing inflation.
Accordingly, Mr. Bopp believed the Committee should be
careful not to appear to be trying to push down interest rates.
Should demand for funds decline, however, and rates begin to fall,
he would not try to roll them back.
A for the directive.

He would vote for alternative

He was glad that implicit in that alternative

of no change was some growth in bank credit and bank reserves.
Some growth in those variables now seemed acceptable in light of
the substantial declines during the past several months.
Mr. MacDonald said it appeared to be the general opinion
in the Fourth District that the pace of real economic activity
would continue to decline in the final quarter of 1969 and through
the first half of 1970, in spite of the temporary interruption in
the third quarter.; and that the slowdown would be accompanied by
an increase in unemployment and by some easing in inflationary
pressures.

That view was supported by the "consensus" forecast

of business economists who had attended a regular outlook session
at the Cleveland Reserve Bank on October 17.
The median forecast of that group of about 40 economists
representing major corporations, Mr. MacDonald continued, indicated

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a $12 billion gain in GNP in

the fourth quarter of 1969,

and further

slowing in current dollar gains to about $10 billion in both the
first and second quarters of 1970.

The economists were nearly

unanimous in the view that recent fiscal and monetary restraint,
accompanied by inventory adjustment, would be the major factors
underlying the anticipated slowdown through the first half.

Con

tinued curtailment in residential construction and sluggishness in
capital spending were expected during the first half of next year,
and industrial production was expected to recede further.

The

group's forecast implied a reduction in the rate of price increaseas measured by the GNP deflator--during that period.
Mr. MacDonald said that an acceleration in economic activity
during the second half of 1970 was also indicated in the median
forecast, with current dollar gains amounting to $16 billion and
$19 billion during the third and fourth quarters, respectively.
The stepped-up pace would be supported by moderate growth in Govern
ment expenditures, followed by more rapid inventory accumulation
and a resumption of upward price pressures.

More importantly, a

key assumption in the group's forecast was that there would be an
abrupt shift in monetary policy from the highly restrictive posture
of recent months to considerable ease.

Such a policy shift would

encourage a sharp recovery in construction, particularly residential.
Many participants were quite emphatic that, in the face of slowing
business activity, the monetary authorities would likely err by

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increasing credit at an excessive rate before inflation and infla
tionary expectations had been brought under control.
In Mr. MacDonald's judgment, the views expressed at the
business economists' meeting provided additional support for the
adoption now of a monetary policy of more moderate restraint that
could be maintained for an extended period.

Such a policy would

help to avert a sharp upswing in GNP during the second half of
1970 that would nullify the System's recent efforts to control
inflation.

It would seem prudent, therefore, to support the

recent easing in financial market conditions by moving to achieve
sustainable positive growth rates in the monetary and bank credit
aggregates.
Mr. Sherrill said developments in the past three weeks
offered ample evidence of the degree of interaction between the
real world and the world of expectations.

He thought the expla

nation of those developments was that expectations had kept the
real world from reflecting as much restraint as it would have
otherwise.

The strength of expectations in itself involved some

thing of a paradox; because the economy appeared to be cooling
it was expected that monetary restraint would be relaxed and that
that, in turn, would lead to a new economic upsurge.
Mr. Sherrill expressed the view that the posture of restraint
in fiscal policy was in real danger of giving way to stimulus.

It

was quite possible that the income tax surcharge would be permitted

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to lapse on January 1 because of expectations that the economy would
cool more than he personally thought likely.

Moreover, any tax reform

measures probably would be accompanied by tax reductions.

If both

monetary and fiscal restraints were being relaxed simultaneously,
a resurgence in the expansion of the real economy was quite likely.
Accordingly, he would not want to relax monetary policy at this time.
That view was reinforced by the fact that the projections for slowing
in the economy were based in good part on expectations of continued
moderation in consumer spending.

He was not sure one could count

on that moderation, particularly since the rate of increase in
disposable income was up sharply in the third quarter.
He recognized the risks in continuing the present posture
of monetary restraint, Mr. Sherrill continued, but he thought there
would be greater risks in a relaxation.

Monetary restrictions were

fatiguing when they had been in effect for so long a period, particu
larly when they had shown so little result.

But if the grip of

monetary policy were loosened it probably would prove impossible to
take a second grip should there be an economic resurgence.

Under

those circumstances there would be a real possibility that direct
controls would be imposed.

Despite the fact that he found recent

developments with respect to the monetary aggregates to be disquieting
he favored alternative A for the directive.
Mr. Brimmer said he was grateful to the staff for their
detailed projections, which he had found quite helpful.

He recognized

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the difficulty of making projections for so long a time period,
and he noted that those presented today were based on certain
specific assumptions about policy.

He hoped anyone who might look

back at some future time to assess the accuracy of today's projec
tions would take both of those considerations into account.
Mr.

Brimmer then remarked that the outlook portrayed by

the staff for production,
first

employment,

and unemployment in

half of 1970--particularly the declines in

the

real GNP foreseen

for two successive quarters--were of a type that would lead most
analysts to classify the period as one of recession.
to which unemployment was projected
with recessionary tendencies in

The levels

to rise next year were consistent

the economy.

At the same time,

prices were expected to be still rising at nearly a 3 per cent
annual, rate in

the last quarter of 1970.

That posed the classic

dilemma of trade-offs and priorities among conflicting goals of
policy.
Mr.

Brimmer said he thought the Committee should face up

squarely to the fact that a recession early next year might well be
inherent in the course it was following, and that it should face
directly the question of priorities among its various objectives.
He personally thought it

would be desirable to keep policy on its

present track for at least a while longer,
favored alternative A for the directive.

and accordingly he
In his judgment it

not as difficult to reach such a conclusion today as it

was

was likely

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to be at coming meetings.

He suspected, however, that it would

prove necessary to hold to the present policy course for some time.
Mr. Maisel said he would like to speak again to the propo
sition that allowing more freedom in money market conditions now
would result in a better money and credit situation and one that
would involve fewer shocks to the economic system.

It would mean

less "stop and go" in monetary policy and a better adjustment of
policy to economic flows.

The question, in his view, was how to

allow economic conditions to influence credit in the proper direc
tion and manner.

How could the Federal Reserve follow the logic

of its own operations?

It should be able to use current information

and not be constrained by the straitjacket of economic projections,
which was a matter separate from that of the nature of the projec
tions themselves.

He thought such a position was implicit in

Mr. Partee's observation during the chart show to the effect that,
while consistency with the staff's projection would not require
overt policy action at present, it did presuppose a readiness to
accommodate interest rate declines initiated by the market.
As he saw it, Mr. Maisel continued, the development of a
logical policy now was related to decisions with respect to the
form of the Committee's instructions to the Manager in the directive,
as supported by the specifications given in the blue book.
were three major problems.

There

First was a problem of semantics:

how

should the Committee formulate an instruction to the Manager not to

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tighten further, assuming that was its wish?

Related to that was

the problem the Manager faced in his operations of following any
tendencies in the market toward greater ease--if that was the
direction of the underlying pressures in the economy--rather than
forcing greater tightness.

The second problem was that of insuring

that there was no major change in expectations in the market as a
result of day-to-day events and the Desk's operations.

The third

problem was suggested by the Manager's comments, in his statement
today, regarding his recent actions under the proviso clause; it
arose from the fact that the projections referred to in that clause
ordinarily related to bank credit developments in a single month,
whereas the Committee's main concern clearly was with trends over
a longer period.

Adopting alternative B for the directive would not

appear to be at all helpful in dealing with those various problems.
With respect to the first problem, Mr. Maisel observed,
the situation appeared to be asymmetrical.

Earlier this year the

Committee had instructed the Manager at successive meetings to
maintain current conditions, but the Manager had in effect not
opposed the market's tendency to tighten further and the Committee
had accepted the results at each subsequent meeting.

But the

Committee did not seem to be able to follow the same course when
the market's tendency was in the opposite direction.

The Manager

felt constrained to attempt to hold the daily Federal funds rate
as close to 9-3/4 per cent as possible, providing the estimate of net

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borrowed reserves did not exceed $1.2 billion--which was consistent
with the Committee's instructions.

It meant, however, that the

Manager could allow market forces to influence actual conditions only
when banks made miscalculations in managing their reserve positions
and there were sharp decreases in the Federal funds rate on the last
day or two of the weekly period.
As a result of the situation he had described, Mr. Maisel
said, unless the Committee gave the Manager specific instructions
on the matter it would not be able to get results of the type that
previous speakers today had indicated they favored; it would never
be able to permit market conditions to do their part in determining
rates and flows.

One example of a situation in which there would

be a need for greater flexibility might be that in which there was
a divergence between movements in Euro-dollar rates, commercial
paper rates, and the Federal funds rate, of which the last was the
one most easily dominated by the Desk.
As to the second problem, Mr. Maisel observed, it was clear
that the Committee thought that a change in the wording of the
directive and in the Desk's day-to-day operations might result in
a major change in market expectations.

There was nothing in the

current directive that guarded against that.
Finally, Mr. Maisel said, the third problem was a consequence
of the fact that the rate of change in the bank credit proxy fluctuated
widely from month to month, largely because of the effects of Treasury

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financing operations.
in

Thus, for November a fairly sizable increase

the proxy was projected,

even though November was the middle

month of a quarter in which no increase at all was expected on
average.

The size of the projected November increase might be

worrisome only if
the change in

it

was considered alone,

without reference to

the longer period of which November was a part.

Mr. Maisel thought all three problems required some change
in

the directive and operations.

He believed the manner in which

specifications were formulated in the blue book should be modified
to give the Manager more leeway to allow the tendency of market
forces to be reflected in rates.

The Manager should be told to

consider 9-1/2 per cent as a ceiling for the Federal funds rate
in

reaching decisions on his daily operations,

on the assumption

that the average for the week would fall below 9 per cent if
was the tendency of market forces.

It

that

would be best to use a

one-way proviso with respect to bank credit and add a proviso on
interest rates,

along the following lines:

that operations shall be modified if

"provided,

however,

bank credit appears to be

expanding significantly less than currently projected or if
interest rates are tending to decline unduly."

market

Second best would

be retention of the two-way bank credit proviso shown in the staff
draft, with the addition of an interest rate proviso reading as
follows:

"...or if

modifications are necessary

large declines in market interest rates."

to resist unduly

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Mr. Daane said he did not concur in Mr. Francis' suggestion
that the discount rate be increased, whatever pains might be taken
to describe the action as technical.

Nor did he favor the other

actions Mr. Francis had proposed.
More generally, Mr. Daane continued, he thought that there
was no basis for relaxation of monetary policy at this juncture,
and that there were grounds for considerable apprehension that the
stimulus from fiscal policy might come sooner and in larger
measure than the staff had projected.

He was uneasy about the

similarity between the current situation and that of the fall of
1965, when Federal defense spending was entering a period of sharp
expansion.

He did not expect defense spending to rise sharply now,

but he was disturbed about the outlook for other types of Federal
outlays.

He also shared Mr. Sherrill's concern about the tax

outlook.

Chairman McCracken of the Council of Economic Advisers

recently had publicly said that failure to extend the surtax at
5 per cent through the first half of 1970 would add about $5 billion
at an annual rate to the Federal deficit in that period, and that
failure to repeal the investment tax credit would add another $1.5
billion to the deficit.

If one added a few billion dollars to

budgeted expenditures to allow for probable overages--some of which
were already matters of public knowledge--one could easily arrive
at an estimate that the deficit on an NIA basis would be ata $10
billion annual rate in the first half.

He did not hold any

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particular brief for that figure, but he did feel that fiscal
policy was on the verge of a large shift toward stimulus.
It was against that background, Mr. Daane observed, that
he had concluded that there was no justification for a relaxation
of monetary policy now.

While there were some questions in his

mind about the appropriate course of policy in the future, he
favored alternative A for the directive today.
Mr. Mitchell said he favored alternative A for the directive,
on the grounds Mr. Bopp had advanced.
Mr. Mitchell added that he agreed with Mr. Maisel that the
Committee was having a difficult time in connection with its instruc
tions to the Manager; as Mr. Maisel had indicated, monetary policy
had tightened during a period when the Committee had been issuing
"no change" directives.

In that connection he noted that Mr. Maisel

was chairman of a committee, also including Messrs. Morris and Swan,
that had undertaken to review the format of the directive.

He asked

whether that group might be expected to offer constructive suggestions
soon.
Mr. Maisel replied that the directive committee had held
two meetings and that its work was progressing.

However, he did not

expect that it would be able to make its report in time to help the
Open Market Committee deal with the directive problem it now was
facing.

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Mr. Heflin said he was inclined to agree with Mr. Brimmer's
comment that it was easier to reach a decision for no change in
policy today than it was likely to be at coming meetings; at the
moment he thought there was no real alternative to holding to the
present stance of policy.

He had reached that conclusion despite

the fact that recent data for the Fifth District--which in some
respects were more current than the national figures--offered
clearer indications of a slowing of the pace of activity than had
been evident earlier.

The indications were particularly sharp in

the textile industry, but there had also been a marked slowing in
general retail trade and automobile sales, and construction activity
had continued in a steep decline.

Sentiment in both the banking

and business communities appeared to have taken a bearish turn
lately, and nearly half the businessmen in the Reserve Bank's
latest survey now expected some decline in activity in the months
ahead.
In contrast, Mr. Heflin continued, recent national statis
tics--particularly the third-quarter GNP figures and the September
data for new durables orders and for housing starts--suggested that
progress was being made at only a moderate rate.

The continued

rapid increase in consumer and industrial prices in September was
discouraging, although not altogether unexpected.

But as far as

today's policy decision was concerned, he believed the current rate
of inflation was less important than the question of what was

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happening to the underlying upward pressures on the price level.
He thought there were some encouraging signs that the peak pressures
might be past, and there also were signs of a turnaround in the
patterns of expectations in both the business community and the
bond markets.

But while there may have been considerable progress

in those areas, he agreed with Mr. Sherrill that it was too early
to consider actions that might turn loose the tremendous pent-up
demands of consumers.

On that ground, and in light of the outlook

for Government expenditures, he thought it would be a mistake to
relax monetary policy at this time.
Mr. Heflin said he was convinced that the task of returning
the economy to a sustainable growth path would require two--and
perhaps three--quarters of growth in spending at a rate well below
Despite the staff's excellent

that indicated for the third quarter.

chart presentation this morning, he had serious doubts that that
much moderation was a firm prospect.

Accordingly, he was prepared

to hold to the current degree of restraint a while longer, and he
favored alternative A for the directive today.
Mr. Clay observed that there were some indications of
progress in the effort to slow the excessive pace of economic
expansion.

However, those developments had only laid the ground

work for the more difficult part of the struggle to restrain price
inflation and restore price stability.

He said that with full

recognition of the lagged impact on prices in the correction sequence.

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It was going to be very hard to bring price inflation under

control, Mr. Clay continued.

Not only was the inflation disturb

ingly strong, but inflationary expectations did not seem to have
lessened significantly.

There did appear to be a heightened public

recognition of the inflation problem and the need to correct it,
but there was a lack of confidence that it would be dealt with
successfully.
Mr. Clay said the potential for, and indeed a substantial
risk of, continuing inflationary pressure was going to come from
wage negotiations between labor unions and business management.
The outcome of those bargaining sessions would be crucial.

Public

economic policy success in moderating the pace of economic activity,
with its impact on corporate profits and the demand for labor, could
be a substantial restraining force in those negotiations.
Because the economic stabilization effort was approaching
a crucial stage, Mr. Clay believed it was important that moderation
of economic activity continue and that inflationary expectations
be dispelled.

A complicating factor in the attainment of that goal

was the fairly common projection of economic events that included
a marked upturn in activity by mid-1970.

Unfortunately, considerable

uncertainty had arisen as to the degree of restraint that could be
expected from fiscal policy in the months ahead.
role of monetary policy all the more important.

That made the
Accordingly, mone

tary policy should be continued without relaxation.

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Mr. Clay said that alternative A of the draft economic
policy directive appeared to him to be satisfactory.
Mr. Scanlon noted that tentative drafts of the second
paragraph of the current economic policy directive had been
included in the blue book prepared for this meeting.

He had

found that procedure helpful and hoped it would be continued.
Mr. Scanlon then said he would summarize the statement
he had prepared on economic conditions in the Seventh District
and submit the full text for inclusion in the record.

He summa

rized the following statement:
There is widespread acceptance among business
economists in the Seventh District of the view that
monetary and fiscal measures are gradually taking
hold and that real growth will be slight (or cease
temporarily) in the first half of 1970.
We have no local evidence to support the apparent
resurgence (shown by national data) in housing starts
and in orders for durable goods in September. Neither
do we have local evidence that unemployment increased
significantly in September as indicated by national
data. On the other hand, we have ample confirmation
that prices of goods and services have continued to
rise at a rapid pace.
Labor shortages persist in most industrial centers.
This is true for unskilled and semi-skilled as well as
for skilled workers. Steel output continues to be
limited by labor availability. The supply of trainable
job applicants for both factory and white collar jobs
is reported by personnel managers to be even less
adequate than last year. The job situation appears to
be easier in the smaller towns, but workers in such
areas are seldom prepared to move to large centers where
jobs are more plentiful. Despite the decline in home
building, shortages of trained construction workers
(especially those who work with machinery and metals)
are severe, particularly in the Chicago and Indianapolis

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areas. Wage increases for construction workers are
averaging 15 per cent annually. For other contracts
we are told increases of 10 per cent may become the
norm in months to come.
Price increases have been frequent and substantial
for such products as appliances, machinery, vehicles,
metal products, instruments, and electrical goods.
Charges for services have increased very sharply. In
September, 82 per cent of Chicago purchasing agents
reported paying higher prices, compared with 60 per
cent a year earlier. Supply and demand prospects for
agricultural products indicate that recent price
declines for these commodities have run their course.
Steel demand continues vigorous, but order lead
times are very short. Order books are not firming up
for coming months as rapidly as had been anticipated.
While declines in auto sales in the first 20 days
of October are partly a result of strikes at General
Motors, reports from Detroit indicate distinct uneasi
ness concerning sales trends. Production schedules for
the fourth quarter, and for early 1970, may be adjusted
downward.
The surge in construction contracts nationally
in August (attributed to certain large projects) was
not duplicated in the Seventh District. For this region,
contracts reported by F. W. Dodge were down 9 per cent
from a year earlier in August--and were the lowest since
August 1967. The commercial, manufacturing, and resi
dential sectors all participated in the drop from last
year in August. For the first seven months of 1969
construction contracts in this area were up 9 per cent.
Mr. Scanlon went on to say that while there were some indi
cations that over-all credit demand might be softening somewhat,
bankers continued to forecast a substantial overhang of demands for
credit.

The big banks continued to operate with almost no cushion

of liquidity, except for their ability to tap the commercial paper
or Euro-dollar markets.

Their holdings of securities had continued

to decline, except for the temporary impact of Treasury financings,
with holdings of municipals off quite sharply.

Loan rationing

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appeared to be continuing and one of the Seventh District's largest
banks had announced that a premium above the prime rate was being
charged customers on accommodations in excess of their normal
borrowings.

The impact of the high cost of loanable funds on

third-quarter bank profits might have a further restrictive effect
on loan policies.
As to policy, Mr. Scanlon said his position was identical
with that expressed by Mr. Bopp.
toward ease at this time.

He did not favor an overt move

He would accommodate any easing in the

market that was attributable to a lessening of credit demands.
He recognized that the Committee could not accomplish that if it
used an interest rate objective as its criterion.

He confessed

that the Committee's current measures for determining changes in
credit demands left much to be desired.
Mr. Scanlon favored alternative A of the draft directives.
Mr. Strothman remarked that the projections presented for
this meeting in a way were reassuring--and supportive of continuation
of the Committee's policy of the recent past.

That seemed to be

consistent with an unemployment rate averaging 4.5 per cent in the
second quarter of next year.

And all things considered, a 4.5 per

cent unemployment rate was tolerable, at least over some interim
period.

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Mr. Strothman noted that the Board's staff projected that
the unemployment rate would increase further in the second half
of 1970--to 5.0 per cent in the fourth quarter.
be too high a rate, even for a transition period.

That might well
But if the

Committee waited until early next year to change policy it could
still influence the unemployment rate in the second half of 1970.
And by early 1970 the Committee should have a better fix on the
second half of that year than was presently possible.

In particular,

it should have a better fix on business fixed-investment spending
for the second half.

Mr. Partee and his associates were projecting

a 4.0 per cent increase, year-over-year, in capital spending.

He

thought that reasonable, but as the Committee was aware, there were
some survey results which suggested larger increases.
There might be some risk in delaying a policy change,
Mr. Strothman said.

Delay could make extension of the surcharge

that much more difficult; it might be argued that with monetary
policy remaining extremely restrictive, there was no need to
extend the surcharge.

But it might also be argued from an observed

easing of policy that the Federal Reserve had denied the need for
extending the surcharge.

Congress might not grasp that a change

in the mix of monetary and fiscal policies was necessary.
Not knowing the effect on Congress of any Committee decision,
Mr. Strothman continued, the members could only act as if there were
none.

Therefore, he was for no change in Committee policy this

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morning.

To repeat, delaying a policy change was consistent with

a reasonable unemployment rate for mid-1970; and should it want
to, the Committee would still be able to do something about develop
ments in the second half of 1970.
Mr. Strothman favored alternative A of the staff directives
and the monetary targets associated with that alternative in the
blue book.1/
Mr. Swan remarked that he would not comment on Twelfth
District conditions this morning except to note one development.
According to the San Francisco Reserve Bank's very limited sample
of five savings and loan associations, there had been a substantial
savings outflow in the first three weeks of October.

Of the five

associations, four had reported rather significant losses, and the
very small gain reported by the fifth was centered in a new branch
it had just opened.

Thus, it appeared that the situation at savings

1/ The blue book passage referred to read in part as follows:
"Prevailing firm conditions in the money and short-term credit
markets might be taken to encompass ranges for the Federal funds
rate of about 8-1/2 - 9-1/2 per cent, for member bank borrowings
of $1 - 1-1/2 billion, and for net borrowed reserves of $900
million to $1.2 billion--in each case, the approximate ranges
.. .

prevailing since the last meeting of the Committee

the

3-month bill rate seems likely to fluctuate in a 6-3/4 - 7-1/4
per cent range

.. .

total member bank deposits

.

.

. are

expected to grow on average at an annual rate in a 5 - 8 per cent
range in November, supported by a 4 - 7 per cent annual rate of
growth in nonborrowed and total reserves .

.

. the bank credit

proxy adjusted to include Euro-dollars and other nondeposit
sources is projected to rise on average in November in a 6 - 10
per cent annual rate range."

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and loan associations was a rather weak one.

In conjunction with

the lack of strength at banks in consumer-type time deposits and
CD's, that suggested that some consideration should be given to
raising some of the ceiling rates under Regulation Q--not only on
large-denomination CD's but perhaps also on longer-term CD's of
any denomination--and taking equivalent action for savings and
loan associations.
Turning to monetary policy, Mr. Swan said that in view of
the so-called "cross-currents" in recent monthly economic statistics,
in view of the interest rate developments since the Committee's last
meeting, and in view of the November projections for the monetary
aggregates, he would accept alternative A for the directive today.
But like Mr. Scanlon he would hope that any tendencies toward easier
conditions that might be generated by the market itself would not
be fully offset by System operations.

It was true that some such

tendencies might reflect purely expectational factors, and some
might represent over-reactions to Vietnam peace rumors and the
like.

Nevertheless, if the market continued to transmit messages

of easing tendencies, those messages deserved to be heard.

As to

the monetary aggregates, he did not know whether or not there were
any questions about the adequacy of the seasonal adjustment factors,
but he was impressed by the fact that the latest estimate of the
decline in bank credit in October and the increase projected for
November would nearly cancel each other out.

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Mr. Swan said he had a few comments on the language the
staff had proposed for the first paragraph of the directive.

One

sentence in the draft read "Most market interest rates have declined
considerably on balance from their recent highs, in large part
because of changing expectations."

For the sake of clarity it

might be helpful to add a phrase indicating the kinds of the expec
tations that had changed.

Secondly, the language of the statement

reading "In the third quarter, average monthly bank credit declined
. . ." struck him as extremely awkward.

He supposed that the

reference intended was to the change in the bank credit proxy from
the end of the second quarter to the end of the third, but he was
not sure.

Finally, the statement that "In recent weeks . . .

flows of consumer-type time and savings funds at banks and non
bank thrift institutions appear to have remained relatively weak"
seemed to him to imply that there had been inflows but not of
substantial size.
in recent weeks.

He doubted very much that there had been inflows
Perhaps the staff had good reasons for the con

structions it had. proposed at each of the points he had mentioned,
but he thought it might be possible to improve the language at
those points.
Mr. Partee commented that the staff had suggested a
reference to weak "flows" in the third statement Mr. Swan had
cited because it was not known at this time whether there actually
had been net inflows or outflows in recent weeks on a seasonally

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adjusted basis.

There might well have been net outflows, but data

were not yet available to document a statement to that effect.
Chairman Martin commented that he did not consider the
problems mentioned in the draft language to be particularly serious.
Mr. Coldwell observed that the Eleventh District economy
appeared to be cresting, with gains now minimal and a few losses
surfacing.

Industrial production in Texas fluctuated with the

dominant oil and gas industry but, excluding the effects from
mining, there was a distinct slowing of the upward pace.

Employment

was rising more slowly and unemployment was creeping upward.
Similarly, retail sales had stopped advancing in a physical sense
and construction activity--although up recently--was on a downward
trend.

Agricultural output in cotton was estimated to be 8 per

cent below the 1968 crop, while smaller crops and citrus were
showing good gains and the livestock industry was advancing sharply.
Mr. Coldwell said the District banking picture showed loans
and demand deposits declining while investments and time and savings
deposits increased.

However, the latter appeared to be just minor

interruptions in the downward trend of 1969.

The tone and feel

of District banks reflected some relief from the intense restraint
of the summer months.

Borrowings from the Federal Reserve Bank

were sharply lower and talk was heard of a number of country banks
now seeking participations or continuously selling sizable blocks
of Federal funds.

The larger banks insisted that demand was just

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as strong as ever and that it was restrained only by lack of
available funds.
Mr. Coldwell remarked that he would not take the Committee's
time to review the national economic conditions already reported.
However, he would point out that there were interpretations of
future conditions differing from those presented by the staff in
its most interesting chart show.

The Committee was dealing in

futures, and it was in that area that he saw some crucial differences.
One interpretation of the coming six months, Mr. Coldwell
continued, reflected a form of surface stability in the growth rate
of GNP in current dollars but a wide range of internal shifts.

In

effect, that outlook assumed sufficient price inflation and impact
from past increases in prices to keep the GNP changes in the narrow
$16 billion to $18 billion band of the past five quarters.

There

were some who looked for further growth in the coming months based
on a resurgence of consumer spending and a relaxation of fiscal
restraint.
Personally, Mr. Coldwell said, he was skeptical of the
deep declines in growth of dollar GNP in the first two quarters
of 1970 that were forecast by the staff.

But he was equally

skeptical of a near-term resurgence of consumer spending.

In his

opinion there was a real possibility of a high degree of stability
in the growth of over-all GNP, perhaps slanted downward by $1 billion
to $2 billion per quarter.

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Mr. Coldwell commented that the financial trends of the

past few weeks as well as the operations of the Desk appeared to
have already signaled a policy change to some in the market.

If that

view were to become widespread he believed it would be unfortunate,
not only because of the false hopes it raised for future credit
availability and yields, but also because he saw only a slight
diminution in the inflationary expectations of business.

If the

resurgence were abetted by policy, the Committee would be encouraging
the very credibility gap it sought to close.
As he saw the Committee's problem over the next few months,
Mr. Coldwell continued, it would be to begin a slow move toward
permitting some reserve aggregate growth in a manner that kept the
move a secret from the market.

More specifically, he believed the

Committee should begin to think about permitting bank funds to be
enlarged but keep the news of that growth from regenerating specula
tive and inflationary expectations.

To achieve such a move and keep

it from being the cause of major problems, he thought the Committee
should consider such possibilities as implementation of a simultaneous
increase in the Regulation Q ceilings for CD's of $100,000 and larger
and imposition of a strong limitation on the issue by commercial bank
affiliates of commercial paper and bank letter-of-credit guarantees.
Such simultaneous moves, which should be well publicized, could
rechannel the available funds into bank time deposits while sharply
reducing off-balance-sheet financing in the commercial paper market.

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For the present period, however, Mr. Coldwell thought the

System should keep its restraint intact.

Any encouragement to the

financial markets or to business could lead to the development of
expectations which, if unfulfilled, could mean a sharp reversal
and perhaps even a disorderly decline in securities prices.
he favored alternative A for the directive.

Thus,

He would prefer to

avoid specification of market conditions, but would say instead
that he favored maintaining the feeling of tautness that had been
evident in late September.
Mr. Morris said he wanted to commend the staff on the
excellent longer-term analysis they had presented today.

It

seemed to him that the Committee needed to formulate a longer-term
policy stance at this juncture, rather than merely contenting
itself with the much easier task of defining policy for the next
four weeks.
The evidence suggested to Mr. Morris that it was necessary
to formulate a policy which could exert financial restraint for a
considerable period of time to come.

He had no doubt that the

economy was cooling, but the strength of the indicators of new
investment commitments in September suggested that the cooling
process was proceeding considerably more slowly than had been hoped.
He was also concerned about the fact that the Federal Budget was
moving from restraint to stimulus, and that the stimulus could
become very substantial if the surcharge was eliminated entirely

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on January 1.

And, with the personal saving rate now back to

relatively high levels, he was concerned about the possibility
of another unpleasant surprise from the consumer like that in
the second half of 1968.
It was for those reasons that Mr. Morris believed the
Committee should formulate a long-term restrictive strategy.

His

concern with respect to the policy the Committee had been following
since May rested on a conviction that it was not a viable long-term
policy.

He would like to see the Committee edge away from that

course before events forced it off it.

He would support alternative

B as a means of getting onto a sustainable restrictive policy
course.

He recognized that even the subtle change implied in
alternative B might generate expectations of a major change in
policy, Mr. Morris continued.

He thought, however, that any such

expectational effect would be short-lived, as the market assessed
the action and recognized its limited extent.

The great advantage

of monetary policy as a stabilization instrument was said to rest
on the fact that it could be used very flexibly.

But the Committee's

concern about market expectations--which he thought was excessivetended to inhibit the use of that flexibility and to limit policy
changes to major changes.
Mr. Morris recalled that J. P. Morgan had once explained

his success in the stock market by saying it was his practice to

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"buy too early and sell too soon."

He thought there was a moral

in

the objective today was to set

the story for the Committee.

If

a policy for only the next four weeks, the choice between alterna
tives A and B for the directive probably would not make much
difference.

On the other hand, if

the Committee was concerned

with trying to formulate a longer-term policy that would be
consistent with the economic projections,
which it

this was a juncture at

should consider some modification in

its

stance--simply

because the growing lack of liquidity in the economy was going to
force the Committee off its present policy course soon, if not
necessarily in

the next four weeks.

The question was whether

the Committee should be forced to move by events or should initiate
the action itself.

He had enough confidence in the ability of

the market to adjust to a more flexible use of monetary policy
to support alternative B for the directive.
Mr. Robertson made the following statement:
The data that have become available to us since
the last meeting tend to establish the correctness of
our decision then to continue a restrictive monetary
stance.
They also suggest that we should hold to our
present course for at least another four weeks. While
it is likely that the economy will slow down in the
current quarter, and possibly slow even further in the
half of next year, it is also possible that the
first
second half of next year may be strong and that, even
given a slowdown in coming months, inflationary pres
sures may not be satisfactorily contained.
I realize that the second-half strengthening next
year is predicated on an eventual easing of monetary
policy from its current course--as has been assumed in

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the excellent chart show we saw this morning--but for
us firmly to judge the extent and timing of ease that
is desirable requires more certain knowledge as to how
fiscal policy will develop and more time to sort out
the implications of the puzzling recent economic infor
mation. The spurt in new orders for durables, the
rise in housing starts, and the somewhat unexpected
strength of pressures on consumer prices as indicated
by the latest index are disquieting insofar as they
cast doubt on the extent to which inflationary pressures
are under control. On the other hand, recent declines
in industrial production and evidence of excess inven
tories in certain areas, particularly comparing
inventories of durable goods manufacturers with unfilled
orders, are consistent with an economic slowing in
process.
The restraint on the monetary aggregates also seems
to me consistent with an economic slowing. Thus, I would
not like to see any sharp, sustained rebound in growth
of bank credit or of the money supply. While the November
proxy is projected to show considerable growth, October
did show a sharp decline and the proxy for the fourth
quarter as a whole looks as if it will be about flat.
At the same time, I would not be disturbed if the money
supply were to grow at around a 2-3 per cent annual rate
over the fourth quarter, which appears to be slightly
faster than indicated by the projections given us for
October and November taken together.
More money supply
growth than the less than 1 per cent annual rate we seem
to have experienced in the third quarter would not seem
inappropriate, given the economic outlook, but a growth
on the low side of historical standards still seems
desirable in view of the lingering inflationary expecta
tions.
As to interest rates, I do not think we should
resist rate declines, unless they were to be accompanied
by a sustained surge in bank credit growth or a rapid
expansion of the money supply. And if declines in the
bill rate or longer-term interest rates were to begin
dragging down the Federal funds rate, I would not work
too hard attempting to hold the funds rate up, especially
if that resulted in undesirable weakness in the monetary
aggregates. Finally, if interest rates rise following
their recent dip, as some now seem to expect, I would
let the process develop to some extent.
But I would not
let it snowball, and I would not be reluctant to throw

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in some reserves to moderate it--recognizing that the
projections of monetary aggregates we have been given
are on the tight side, after allowing for monthly fluc
tuations, and would seem to provide some leeway for
reserve provision in these circumstances.
With this background, I would vote for alternative
A of the directive.
Chairman Martin said he also favored alternative A, for
essentially the same reasons as those for which he had advocated
no change in policy at the Committee's previous meeting.

It was

his impression from the go-around that all of the voting members
favored that alternative, with the possible exception of Mr. Maisel.
He proposed that the Committee vote on a directive consisting of
alternative A for the second paragraph and a first paragraph in the
form submitted by the staff.
Mr. Maisel remarked that while he had spoken earlier in favor
of different language for the directive, he concurred in the approach
advocated by at least half of the members today to let interest
rates decline if credit market pressures were in that direction.
Because he did not want to disassociate himself from the views of
those members he planned to vote favorably on the directive.
By unanimous vote, the
Federal Reserve Bank of New York
was authorized and directed,
until otherwise directed by the
Committee, to execute transac
tions in the System Account in
accordance with the following
current economic policy directive:

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The information reviewed at this meeting indicates
that the pace of expansion in real economic activity
was sustained in the third quarter by an acceleration of
inventory investment, which about offset a further slack
ening in growth of private final sales. Slower over-all
growth is projected for the fourth quarter, although some
cross-currents have been evident in the recent behavior
of monthly economic measures. Prices and costs are
continuing to rise at a rapid pace. Most market interest
rates have declined considerably on balance from their
recent highs, in large part because of changing expecta
tions. In the third quarter, average monthly bank credit
declined and the money supply changed little; in October
it appears that bank credit is decreasing further on
average but that the money supply is growing somewhat. In
recent weeks the net contraction of outstanding large
denomination CD's slowed markedly, apparently reflecting
mainly an increase in foreign official time deposits, but
flows of consumer-type time and savings funds at banks
and nonbank thrift institutions appear to have remained
relatively weak. The U.S. foreign trade surplus increased
further in September, but the deficit in the over-all
balance of payments was still large on the liquidity basis
and even larger on the official settlements basis. The
appreciation of the German mark since the end of September,
culminating in the revaluation of the official parity, has
led to a partial reversal of speculative flows, and
conditions in the Euro-dollar market have eased. In light
of the foregoing developments, it is the policy of the
Federal Open Market Committee to foster financial
conditions conducive to the reduction of inflationary
pressures, with a view to encouraging sustainable economic
growth and attaining reasonable equilibrium in the country's
balance of payments.
To implement this policy, System open market opera
tions until the next meeting of the Committee shall be
conducted with a view to maintaining the prevailing firm
conditions in money and short-term credit markets; provided,
however, that operations shall be modified if bank credit
appears to be deviating significantly from current projections.
Chairman Martin then noted that the Committee had planned
to consider today the question of its meeting schedule for 1970.
He asked Mr. Holland to comment.

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-92Mr. Holland observed that in a memorandum dated September

29, 1969,1/ the Secretariat had presented three alternative types
of schedules and commented on the pros and cons of each.

Schedule

A, which called for fourteen meetings a year, was similar to
those the Committee had followed in recent years.

Schedule B

called for twelve meetings a year, mostly on the third Tuesday of
the month, and involved four or five 5-week inter-meeting intervals
each year.

Schedule C called for thirteen meetings a year, gen

erally at 4-week intervals.
Mr. Daane said that for several reasons he had a strong
preference for schedule B, calling for twelve monthly meetings.
First, the demands being placed on the staff had been steadily
increasing.

This morning, for example, Mr. Morris had suggested

that greater emphasis be placed on formulating policy for the
longer run.

While he (Mr. Daane) sympathized with that view, it

was clear that if the Committee were to undertake to do so on a
regular basis the burden on the staff would increase further.
Secondly, shifting to a twelve-meeting schedule would reduce the
number of occasions on which Committee members and staff invested
time and energy in meetings that did not need to be held; he
considered today's meeting to be a good illustration of the point.

1/ A copy of this memorandum, which was entitled "FOMC meeting
schedules for 1970 and later years," has been placed in the files
of the Committee.

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Finally, he thought there was merit in the argument that monthly
meetings held at about the same time each month would have
advantages in that there would be a relatively uniform and
reasonably complete body of data for the previous month before the
Committee at each meeting.

It would be understood, of course,

that interim meetings could always be called if circumstances
warranted them.
Mr. Daane noted that the Secretariat's memorandum listed
as a possible disadvantage of a monthly meeting schedule the fact
that it would involve four or five 5-week intervals each year,
and would thus lengthen somewhat the average time period for which
the Committee formulated policy at each meeting.
did not see why that was a disadvantage.

He personally

The memorandum also sug

gested that--because members' statements in the go-around often
reflected their reaction to issues raised at the preceding meetinglonger inter-meeting intervals would tend to increase the "internal
lag in the operations of the Committee."

That problem would be

considerably less important if the format of the meetings was
changed to permit a greater amount of interchange of views.

On

that as well as other grounds, he thought it would be desirable
to consider ways of providing more flexibility in the Committee's
discussions.

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Mr. Hayes said he agreed entirely with Mr. Daane's obser
vations, and would add a few comments.

He was impressed by the

points made in the Secretariat's memorandum regarding the advan
tages of a monthly schedule on grounds of available data, and
regarding the advantages of some reduction in the number of
meetings in producing a better perspective in staff reports and
Committee deliberations.

He agreed with Mr. Morris that it

would be desirable for the Committee to consider policy for a
longer period, and he thought a review of the format of meetings
would be helpful in that connection as well as in the one
Mr. Daane had suggested.
Two other advantages of the monthly schedule were worth
noting, Mr. Hayes continued.

First, that schedule would be

considerably better than alternative A--the present type of
schedule--and somewhat better than C--the four-weekly schedulein minimizing the number of meetings held during periods of
even keel associated with Treasury refundings.

Schedule B was

not perfect in that regard, since some meetings would be called
for around the announcement dates for refundings.

However, it

tended to avoid meetings during periods in which the subscription
books were open.

Finally, a third-Tuesday schedule would tend to

avoid the conflicts with the Basle meetings that would frequently
arise under both of the other alternatives.

While only a few

participants in Committee meetings were subjected to the strains

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that such conflicts created, he thought that consideration deserved
some weight.
In concluding, Mr. Hayes noted that a third-Tuesday schedule
was now feasible because the Federal Advisory Council had expressed
willingness to shift its regular meeting dates to first Fridays.
He hoped the Committee would take the opportunity provided by the
Council's decision to adopt schedule B.
Mr. Brimmer commented that in the past he had expressed some
reluctance to shift to a monthly schedule because he thought there
were important disadvantages in five-week inter-meeting intervals
at the frequency that would be involved.

While he still considered

frequent long intervals to be a disadvantage, he was prepared to
accept schedule B if that was the preference of other members.
He agreed that the Committee should give some weight to the desira
bility of minimizing the number of meetings held during even keel
periods, although he would not limit that consideration to Treasury
refundings.
If the Committee adopted a monthly schedule, Mr. Brimmer
said, he would hope that the staff would put the time so freed to
good use.

Specifically, he thought it would be helpful to the

Committee if the staff presented chart shows like that of today
more often--perhaps every third meeting.
Mr. Maisel noted that schedule B involved only one less
meeting each year than C, the four-weekly schedule.

At the same

time, it introduced a relatively large number of 5-week intervals.

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While he did not feel strongly on the matter, it was not clear to
him why the Committee had to move to the extreme represented by B.
He would prefer adopting schedule C, on the grounds that it would
offer many of the advantages seen in B and would represent much
less of a break with tradition.
Mr. Clay said he also would favor C, partly because he
thought the monthly schedule would involve too many 5-week intervals.
In addition, he had some question about the argument that B was
preferable from the point of view of data availability.

If the

Committee met at about the same time each month, those monthly
statistics which were regularly released shortly before the meeting.
date were likely to get undue attention in the Committee's delibera
tions, at the expense of data released much earlier in the inter
meeting periods.
Mr. Robertson remarked that he had no strong preferences
between B and C.

He did think, however, that there would be

disadvantages in reducing the number of meetings from fourteen to
twelve in 1970, which was likely to be a difficult year for monetary
policy.

As far as the burden on the staff was concerned, some of

the comments in the discussion thus far suggested that it might be
increased rather than reduced by a shift to a monthly schedule.
On balance, he thought it would be desirable to adopt C, the
thirteen-meeting schedule, for 1970 and see how it worked out.

If

no particular problems arose he would not object to considering a
twelve-meeting schedule for later years.

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Mr. Mitchell remarked that the nature of the proceedings at

meetings seemed to him to be far more important than the question of
their frequency.
present.

In his judgment the sessions were much too long at

He would favor abridging the length of at least some meet

ings by shortening the agenda.

It might also be desirable for the

staff to cut back on the size of the green book.

As to the question

of frequency, he thought there were important advantages in having
the Reserve Bank Presidents and the members of the Board meet rela
tively often, and also advantages in public awareness of the fact
that they did so.
Mr. Hayes noted that he had not heard any criticism from out
side observers of the reduction in recent years--from about eighteen
to fourteen a year--in the number of scheduled Committee meetings.
Mr. Brimmer observed that, as he had indicated earlier, he
did have some continuing concern about the frequency of 5-week
intervals under the monthly schedule, and he thought Mr. Robertson's
comment had merit.

He also noted from the Secretariat's memorandum

that the staff's views were divided between schedules B and C.

On

balance, he was now inclined to favor schedule C if the staff felt
that such a four-weekly schedule would not pose serious problems
for its work.
Mr. Partee commented that from the staff's point of view
either B or C would be a substantial improvement over A, the present
type of schedule; it was in connection with the 3-week intervals in

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the latter that the staff had experienced the greatest difficulty.
In his judgment the choice between B and C depended mainly on a
decision by the Committee as to whether it was willing to have
four or five 5-week intervals each year.
Mr. Sherrill asked whether there were grounds for preferring
either B or C from the point of view of the Desk's operations.
Mr. Holmes replied that there would not appear to be any
major difference between the two from his standpoint.

However,

Mr. Coombs no doubt would find B preferable, since it would avoid
the burden placed on him when Committee meetings were held on the
day following meetings in Basle.
Mr. Sherrill then said he would favor some lengthening in
the average intervals between Committee meetings.

When meetings

were held too close together an erroneous impression was created
that the Committee was attempting over-fine control.
Mr. Hayes asked whether a monthly meeting schedule would
not have some advantages from the staff's standpoint.
Mr. Partee replied that in some respects the staff's work
would be facilitated under schedule B.

For example, the fact that

the blue book would be prepared at the same time each month would
probably prove helpful in developing the bank credit projections,
and it should be possible to include projections for both the
current and coming months in each issue of the blue book.

At the

same time, he had some sympathy for Mr. Clay's point that under a

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monthly schedule some economic series were likely to get more
attention than others, which would regularly be close to one month
old at the time the Committee met.
Chairman Martin then proposed that the Committee agree that
its tentative schedule for 1970 should be that shown under the
heading "C-four weekly" in the Secretariat's memorandum.

If the

resulting reduction in the frequency of scheduled meetings from four
teen to thirteen a year was found to pose no particular problems, the
Committee might plan on moving to a monthly schedule in later years.
No objections were raised to the Chairman's proposal.
The Chairman then indicated that the Board had been
considering possible regulatory action in the area of commercial
paper issuance by bank affiliates and that it would be considering
that question further at its meeting this afternoon.

He indicated

that it would be helpful to the Board to have any views that the
Reserve Bank Presidents might care to express.
A number of Presidents offered comments on the subject,
and the Chairman remarked that their views would be kept in mind
during the Board's discussion later today.
It was agreed that the next meeting of the Federal Open Market
Committee would be held on Tuesday, November 25, 1969, at 9:30 a.m.
Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

Secretary

ATTACHMENT A

CONFIDENTIAL (FR)

October 27, 1969

Drafts of Current Economic Policy Directive for Consideration by the
Federal Open Market Committee at its meeting on October 28, 1969
FIRST PARAGRAPH
The information reviewed at this meeting indicates that the
pace of expansion in real economic activity was sustained in the
third quarter by an acceleration of inventory investment, which
about offset a further slackening in growth of private final sales.
Slower over-all growth is projected for the fourth quarter, although
some crosscurrents have been evident in the recent behavior of monthly
economic measures. Prices and costs are continuing to rise at a rapid
pace. Most market interest rates have declined considerably on balance
from their recent highs, in large part because of changing expectations.
In the third quarter, average monthly bank credit declined and the
money supply changed little; in October it appears that bank credit
is decreasing further on average but that the money supply is growing
somewhat. In recent weeks the net contraction of outstanding large
denomination CD's slowed markedly, apparently reflecting mainly an
increase in foreign official time deposits, but flows of consumer
type time and savings funds at banks and nonbank thrift institutions
appear to have remained relatively weak. The U.S. foreign trade
surplus increased further in September, but the deficit in the
over-all balance of payments was still large on the liquidity basis
and even larger on the official settlements basis. The appreciation
of the German mark since the end of September, culminating in the
revaluation of the official parity, has led to a partial reversal
of speculative flows, and conditions in the Euro-dollar market have
eased. In light of the foregoing developments, it is the policy of
the Federal Open Market Committee to foster financial conditions
conducive to the reduction of inflationary pressures, with a view to
encouraging sustainable economic growth and attaining reasonable
equilibrium in the country's balance of payments.
SECOND PARAGRAPH
Alternative A
To implement this policy, System open market operations until
the next meeting of the Committee shall be conducted with a view to
maintaining the prevailing firm conditions in money and short-term
credit markets; provided, however, that operations shall be modified
if bank credit appears to be deviating significantly from current
projections.

Alternative B
To implement this policy, System open market
the next meeting of the Committee shall be conducted
achieving slightly less firm conditions in money and
markets; provided, however, that operations shall be

operations until
with a view to
short-term credit
modified if bank

credit appears to be deviating significantly from current projections.

Simulated Effects of Assumed Alternative Rates of Monetary Expansion 1/
sumed Alternative Rates of Monetary Expansion- /
Projected

Projected Annual2/
Rates of Change in M
0 Per Cent until Jan. 13 then 3 per cent
Rate of Change in Y
Y*

P
Unemployment Rate
3 Per Cent beginning now 3 /
Rate of Change in Y
Y*

1/1970

11/1970

3.0
- 1.7

2.2
-

4.7
4.5

5.4

3.7

4.5

IV/1970

4.2
1.3
2.9
5.7

4.8
1.6
3.2
5.4

- 0.5

4.7
Unemployment Rate

2.8
- 0.7
3.5

1.9

4.1
4.9

3.9
- 0.8

III/1970

4.2
4.8

Key to Abbreviations:
Y

Y*
P
M

=
=
=
=

Nominal GNP
Real GNP
GNP Price Deflator
Money Supply (demand deposits and currency in the hands of the public)

1/ Simulated effects reflect only monetary and fiscal actions.

Other factors affecting GNP are
assumed unchanged.
Annual rate is compounded from IV/1969 to IV/1970. Government expenditures are assumed to grow
2/
at a 3 per cent annual rate during this period.
3/ Three per cent annual rate of change in M beginning with the month of November 1969.
October 27, 1969