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MINUTES OF !BE MEETING- OB' THE FEDERAL OPEN MARKET COMMITTEE
HELD AT WASHINGTON, D. C., OCTOBER 22, 23, and 24, 1 9 3 5 _

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The meeting was called to order on October 2 2 at 10:30 a. m., there
being present:
Governor Harrison, chairman, Governors Young, Fleming, Seay,
Newton, Schaller, Martin, Geery, Hamilton, and Galkins*
Deputy Governors Gilbert and Burgess, secretary.
Mr. Strater was also present.
The preliminary memorandum on credit conditions and the report of opera­
tions were submitted.
letter was read from the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System pointing out the requirements of section 10 of the Federal Reserve Act as
amended by the Banking Act of 1935 with regard to the record to be maintained in
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connection with the determination of open market policies^

A copy of the letter

is attached herewith.
After discussion it was unanimously
V0TEJ) that to meet the requirements of law a record be.kept,
as suggested by the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System, setting forth such actions as may be taken by the
committee upon questions of policy relating to open market
operations, the votes taken in connection therewith, and the
reasons underlying each such action, and that this record be
transmitted to the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System,
Thereupon Governor Harrison left the meeting to report this action to
Governor Eccles and returned shortly indicating that Governor Eccles had agreed
to the suggested procedure on behalf of the Board.
At this point Governor Norris entered the meeting.
It was unanimously
VOTED that the report of operations be accepted and
placed on file, and that operations in the System*s
special investment account since the last meeting of the
committee be ratified.




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The preliminary memorandum on credit conditions was also accepted and
placed on file.
There then ensued an extended discussion of the general credit situation
and particularly of the existing large excess of bank reserves and methods which
might be employed to absorb part of these reserves in order that the System might
be in a position to deal more readily with any future overexpansion of credit.
|During the course of this discussion the different members of the committee re-

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advantages and disadvantages at this time of a sale of government
or changes in reserve requirements of member banks, a number of the

governors expressing preference for the first method and a number expressing
preference for the second, while still others were doubtfulj>f the destrjg&llity
of any action at this time.

The discussion also involved consideration of the

various methods which might be employed in carrying out either of these two
general lines of action, the desirability of a public statement in connection with
them, and the relationship between Federal reserve policy and Treasury policy.
The opinion was expressed by a number of the governors that some definite
action at this time to reduce the amount of excess reserves would be reassuring to
• the public as indicating that those charged with responsibility in connection with
j monetary policy were prepared to exercise the instruments of restraint in their
I control if and when necessary.
The meeting adjourned at 12:57 p. m. for lunch.
At 2:30 p. m. the meeting reconvened, there being present the same
persons as in the morning meeting.

Discussion was resumed of the same questions

as in the morning meeting.
In the course of this discussion a number of those present emphasized
that as far as the credit picture was concerned there appeared to be no necessity
for any reversal in a policy now directed toward stimulating recovery, but the




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question was whether without impeding recovery there was something that could be
done to pave the way for later control, and there was the further question whether
any action that was taken could be explained publicly in such a way as to avoid
misunderstanding as to its real purpose.
After a further general discussion it was agreed that Governor Eccles
should be asked to join the meeting for an informal discussion prior to any
attempt to formulate the views of the meeting.
At 3:10 Governor Eccles entered the meeting.
Governor Harrison summarized for him the opinions which had been ex­
pressed in the course of the preceding discussion.

Governor Harrison’s statement

was supplemented by a number of the other governors.
Governor Eccles reviewed in some detail the recent changes in the
credit situation and the problems now confronting the Federal Reserve System.
With respect to the instruments available to deal with excess reserves
Governor Eccles was inclined to favor increase in reserve requirements as the
most feasible method, though the dangers of possible public misunderstanding should
receive serious consideration.
After some general discussion Governor Eccles left the meeting at 4:55.
It was agreed that the meeting would reconvene in the morning, and that
in'the meantime those present should consider the form of a resolution which
might set forth the opinion of the committee.
The meeting adjourned at 5 p. m.
At 10:15 on October 23 the meeting reconvened with the same attendance
as on the preceding day.

There was a brief discussion of the maturity of secur­

ities held in the System account, and the accounts of the several Federal Reserve
Banks.

It was suggested, and a number of those present agreed, that it might be

desirable for the System when appropriate opportunity arises to increase its hold­
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The point was made that some increase

in long term holdings might at times aid in a proper adjustment between the rates
on short term and longer term securities and at the same time might aid in main
taining the earnings of the Reserve Banks should there be further declines m
yields on government securities.

Governor Harrison reported that he had talked with Mr. Coolidge, the
Under Secretary of the Treasury, to see if the Treasury had any views with respect
to Federal reserve policy at this time, and that Mr. Coolidge had indicated that
he believed the Treasury would not desire to take any position which would in any
way tie the hands of the Federal Open Market Committee.
There ensued a discussion of the resolution which might be adopted as
setting forth the views of the committee, and drafts prepared by Governor Norris
and Governor Young were read and discussed.

A draft prepared by Governor Harrison

was then read and, after discussion and amendment it was unanimously agreed that
this resolution be the sense of the meeting, with the understanding that a further
draft should be submitted for review as to detailed wording.
At 12:00 m* the meeting was adjourned as a meeting of the Federal Open

Market Committee and reconvened as a Governors Conference.
At 12:50 p. m. the meeting reconvened as a Federal Open Market Committee
meeting.
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The resolution previously considered was read as amended and unanimously

adopted, as follows:

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The Committee reviewed the preliminary memorandum sub­
mitted by the Chairman and discussed at length business and
credit conditions and the banking position in relation to
them.
It was the unanimous opinion of the Committee that the
primary objective of the System at the present time is still
to lend its efforts towards the furtherance of recovery.
While much progress has been made, it cannot be said that business activity on the whole is yet normal, or that the effects
of the depression are yet overcome.
Statistics of business
activity and business credit activity, both short and long
term, do not now show any undue expansion. -In these circumstances, the Committee was unanimously of the opinion that
there is nothing in the business or credit situation which at
this time necessitates the adoption of any policy designed to
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But the Committee cannot fail to recognize that the rapid
growth of bank deposits and bank reserves in the past year and
a half is building up a credit base which may be very difficult
to control if undue credit expansion should become evidenti
The continued large imports of gold and silver serve to increase
the magnitude of that problem. Even now actual reserves of
member banks are more than double their requirements, and there
is no evidence of a let-up in their growth. That being so, the
Committee is of the opinion that steps should be taken by the
Reserve System as promptly as may be possible to absorb at least
some of these excess reserves, not with a view to checking some
further expansion of credit, but rather to put the System in a
better position to act effectively in the event that credit ex­
pansion should go too far.
Two methods of absorbing excess reserves have been dis­
cussed by the Committee:
(a) the sale of short term Government
securities by the Federal Reserve System, and (b) the raising of
reserve requirements.
While the Committee feels that method (a), if employed,
would have the dual effect of absorbing excess reserves and im­
proving the position of the Reserve Banks, nevertheless, there
are two risks in this method, first, that it may be a shock to
the bond market, inducing sales of securities by banks all over
the country; second, that however it may be explained publicly,
it may be misconstrued by the public as a major reversal of
credit policy, since this method has iiever been employed except
as a means of restraint, which is not desired at this time. A
majority of the Committee is opposed to the sale of Government
securities at this time, believing that its advantages do not
now justify the risks involved in this method of dealing with
the subject.'
There are also risks incident to method (b), - raising
reserve requirements. This method of control is new and untried
and may possibly prove at this time to be an undue and restraining
influence on the desirable further extension of bank credit. The
Committee feels, therefore, that before this method of dealing with
the problem of excess reserves is employed, it would be wise for
the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System to mak^ a
thorough study, through the twelve Federal Reserve Banks, of the
amount and location of excess reserves by districts and by classes
of banks, in order thus to determine whether, or to whet extent if
at all, an increase in reserve requirements might interfere,with
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extension of loans and investments of member banks.
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In view of the monetary powers now possessed by the Treasury,
the Committee is impressed with the importance of advising with
the Treasury relative to any steps that may be taken by the Reserve
System in order as far as possible to insure reasonable coordination
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Furthermore, the Committee recognizes the possible
dangers of the public misunderstanding of any action which
may be taken in this matter, and would favor a careful pub­
lic statement before action is taken*
In making these suggestions to the Board of Governors
regarding reserve reciuirenients, the Committee recognizes
that it is going somewhat beyond its own immediate jurisdic­
tion, but it has found it impossible to consider open market
operations independently from the whnle credit situation and
other Federal Reserve policies.
After discussion it was agreed that the authority previous3.y granted to
the executive committee of the Federal Open Market Committee to make shifts of
maturities in the System open market account should be continued, as necessary in
the proper administration of the account, to enable the executive committee to re­
place maturities from time to time and to make shifts in maturities to meet changing
market conditions.

Therefore, it was unanimously

VOTED that superseding previous authorizations, the executive
committee be authorized to make shifts between maturities of
government securities up to $300,000,000, provided that the
amount of securities maturing within two years be maintained at
not less than $;1,000,000,000 and that the amount of bonds be
not over §500,000,000.
It was also agreed that authority should be given to the executive com­
mittee to buy or sell (which would include authority to allow maturities to run off)
securities for System account up to a certain amount, in order that the committee
might be in a position to act promptly if circumstances not now foreseen should
make action appear desirable before a further meeting of the full committee.

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fore, it was unanimously
VOTED that the executive committee be authorized to buy or
sell up to $250,000,000 of Government securities subject to
telegraphic approval of a majority of the Federal Open Market
Committee and the approval of the Board of Governors of the
Federal Reserve System.
This motion had the effect of continuing a similar authority granted at
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At 1:10 p. m. the meeting adjourned.
At 10:09 a. m. on Thursday, October 24, the meeting reconvened as a
joint conference of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System and the
Federal Open Market Committee.

There were present:

From the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System:
Governors Eccles, Hamlin, Miller, James, Thomas,
Szymczak, and 0*Connor.
From the Federal Open Market Committee:
The same persons as were present on the preceding two days.
Under Secretary Coolidge.
From the staff of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System:
Messrs. Morrill, Goldenweiser, Bethea, Carpenter, and
Thompson.
Two memoranda prepared by the Board*s staff on ’’Business and Credit
Conditions” and on ’’International Gold and Capital Movements” were distributed.
Governor Harrison reported to the meeting the action of the Committee on
the preceding two days, summarizing the subordinate motions and reading in full
the resolution with respect to credit policy.
Under Secretary Coolidge outlined to the meeting the purposes of the
Treasury with respect to the sale of savings bonds, and after a brief discussion
of this subject, left the meeting*
There ensued a brief general discussion of the conclusions of the Federal
Open Market Committee.
At 11:04 the meeting adjourned as a joint conference of the Board of
Governors of the Federal Reserve System and the Federal Open Market Committee.




W» Randolph Burgess,
Secretary.