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BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON

OF THE CHAIRMAN

OFFICE

May 3, 1962.

CONFIDENTIAL (FR)
To:

Members of the Federal Open Market Committee
and Presidents not currently serving on the
Committee.

From:

Chairman Martin

At the meeting of the Federal Open Market Committee on
April 17, 1962,
executive

reference was made to the understanding during the

session of the meeting on January 23 of this year that

Messrs. Hayes, Balderston, and I would hold informal

exploratory

discussions looking toward the selection of a successor to
Mr. Rouse as Manager of the System Open Market Account,

and it

was

agreed that this informal g roup would submit a report to the Committee for consideration at a later meeting.
The enclosed report is

submitted for your personal and

confidential use prior to consideration of the subject in executive
session at the meeting to be held on May 8, 1962.
MS: me
No copies sent to St. Louis.
Sent to Messrs. Ellis, Hayes, Treiber,
Bopp, Fulton, Wayne, Bryan, Scanlon,
Deming, Clay, Irons, & Swan
Chairman Martin, Govs. Balderston,
Wm.
Mills, Robertson, Shepardson, King,
& Mitchell. Messrs. Young, Sherman,
& Kenyon. One copy of report to files in

Enclosure

sealed envelope

McC. Martin, Jr.

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REC IN RECORDS SECTION
Report to Federal Open Market Committee by Informal

Nominating Group

JUL 20 1967

on
Proposed Manager of

System Open Market Account

Carded
Background
At the Federal Open Market Committee meeting of January 23, 1962,
Chairman Martin informed the meeting in Executive Session that the question
of the selection of a successor to Mr. Rouse as Manager of the System Open
Market Account was now under active consideration.

He suggested that, in

lieu of the appointment of any formal nominating committee, he, Governor
Balderston and Mr. Hayes would hold informal exploratory discussions looking toward the selection of an individual to succeed Mr. Rouse who would
be agreeable to both the Federal Open Market Committee and to the Federal
Reserve Bank of New York.

Mr. Martin added that suggestions of suitable

names for consideration would be welcomed from members of the Committee
or from the Presidents not currently serving on the Committee.
Subsequently this informal nominating group met for a rather
full discussion of the problems involved and to review various names which
During the ensuing weeks there were

the members of the group had in mind.

a number of additional conversations among the three members of the group,
leading to the recommendation which Chairman Martin presented to the Federal
Open Market Committee meeting in Executive Session on April 17, 1962.
the light of the ensuing discussion,

it

In

was deemed desirable by the Commit-

tee to defer action on the proposed appointment and,

in the meantime,

to

have a memorandum prepared for the benefit of the Committee that would set
forth the reasons for the conclusion reached by the informal group.
memorandum is

provided in

order to meet the Committee's wishes.

This

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-2Recommendation
The informal nominating group recommends for the post of Manager,
to succeed Mr. Rouse,

Mr. Robert W. Stone,

now an Assistant Vice President

of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York assigned to the Securities Function.
It is

suggested that the appointment be made effective

in the near future,

at a date to be agreed upon by the Committee and the New York Bank, perhaps

May 15.
Mr. Stone, age 39, was graduated from the University of Connecticut
in

1949 with a B.A.

1951.

degree,

and was awarded an M.A.

degree in economics in

He received his Ph.D. in economics from the University of Virginia

in 1955.

Mr. Stone was employed by the Bank in May 1953 as an Economist C.

In April 1955 he was assigned to the Personnel Department where he served
as Supervisor, Assistant Chief and Chief of the Salary Research Division.
In

1958 he became an officer of the Bank with the title of Manager and was

assigned to the Securities Department where he had primary responsibility
for Trading and Reports.

He held this position until his appointment as

Assistant Vice President in the Securities Department in January 1962; in

addition, from January 1960 to October 1960 he was Assistant Secretary of
the Bank.

During the spring of 1961 he spent five weeks on a special

assignment with the Board of Governors in Washington.
In the judgment of the nominating group, Mr. Stone has demonstrated a variety of fine characteristics, including intellectual capacity,
imagination, balanced judgment, understanding of economic theory and the
role of monetary policy, the ability to express himself well both orally
and in writing, adequate but not excessive

self-confidence,

a pleasing

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-3personality and an ability to get along with others.
had as much experience in

Although he has not

the financial markets as might be considered

ideal, he has a good general understanding of the Government securities
market, has been broadening his contacts with leading participants in

the

market, and has been characterized by one of those leading participants
as having "good market sense."
The informal nominating group has given very careful consideration to Mr. Stone's qualifications and feels that, in
youth, he now possesses

spite of his relative

the qualities needed to perform satisfactorily the

heavy duties of Manager,

and in

addition he gives promise of further

development in this position over the years.

Discussion
The group's recommendation has been made only after a careful

review of the requirements for the post of Manager and of the qualifications, not only of Mr.

Stone, but of a considerable number of alternative

candidates whose names had been suggested either by members of the group
or by others.

The following is

a list

of names that were considered:

Robert Bethke, Vice President, Discount Corporation
Robert H. Craft, President, Paribas Corporation
J. Dewey Daane, Deputy Under Secretary of the Treasury
for Monetary Affairs
Charles J. Gable,

Jr., Senior Vice President, The First
Pennsylvania Banking and Trust Company,

Philadelphia
Robert C. Holland, Adviser,
Alan R. Holmes,

Board of Governors

Assistant Vice President, Federal Reserve Bank
of New York

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-4John J.

Larkin, Vice President, First National City Bank

Ralph F. Leach,

Vice President and Treasurer, Morgan Guaranty

Spencer S, Marsh,

Jr., Assistant Vice President,
Reserve Bank of New York

Federal

Donald C. Miller, Vice President, Continental Illinois National
Bank and Trust Company, Chicago
John Perkins, Vice President, Continental Illinois National
Bank and Trust Company, Chicago
Herbert Repp,

President, Discount Corporation

Paul I.

Senior Vice President, The Old Colony Trust
Company, Boston

Wren,

C. Richard Youngdahl, Executive Vice President and Director,
Aubrey G. Lanston & Co., Inc.
At the outset it was recognized that the Manager must have both

a knowledge of money and security markets, particularly the market for
U.S. Government securities, and an understanding of the role of central
banking and monetary policy, and especially the role of open market operations.

It was also agreed that the group should feel quite free to look

outside the System,

as well as inside the System,

for suitable candidates.

We were aware that good arguments could be made for both of these alternatives.

We would be more likely to find a thorough knowledge

markets among senior professionals in those markets.

of security

An appointment of

someone outside the System who enjoyed a very high reputation in the
financial world might be expected to lend prestige to the post of Manager,
and there may always be some advantages in injecting "new blood" into any
System activity.

On the other hand,

the group felt

that it would be hard

to find someone available from an outside organization who had a close
understanding of monetary policy--and that conceivably it might be easier

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the System, thoroughly familiar with monetary policy, to

expand his knowledge and understanding of the details of the operations
of the securities markets than to inculcate a good understanding of
central banking in

a professional securities expert.

The group was mind-

ful of the difficulties imposed by limitations on the salary that could
be paid for the job of Manager as compared with the salary (together with
a variety of fringe benefits not available in

the System) enjoyed by many

of those candidates now working in private organizations.

We had in

mind

also the fact that, other things being equal, there are advantages to
promotion from within an organization from the standpoint of preserving
or enhancing the morale of the organization's staff.
that all

Finally we recognized

of us have had a better opportunity to appraise the candidates

from within the System,

whereas,

in

the case of at least some of the "out-

siders", there would necessarily be somewhat more of a "gamble.
At our first

meeting, we concluded that Mr.

outstandingly attractive candidate,
the System, in

among all

Repp would be an

those considered from outside

view of his unusually high reputation for ability, integrity,

and statesmanship.

We thought it

worthwhile,

therefore,

to explore his

availability, even though we did not foresee much likelihood of success in

this regard.

We also felt that Mr. Bethke, of the same organization, was

one of the most promising of the "younger outside" candidates, and it

was

therefore decided to explore informally his availability in case Mr. Repp
should not be interested,

It

should be emphasized that we were talking

solely of determining availability of these individuals and not in terms
of making any immediate offer to them.

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-6As instructed by the nominating group, Mr. Hayes had a lengthy
conversation on February

5

with Mr. Repp,

outlining the problem created

by Mr. Rouse's impending retirement and expressing the hope that Mr. Repp
might wish to have his name considered as a possible successor.

After

listening carefully to this proposal, Mr. Repp said that, while he felt
very much flattered and while he was very much interested in central
banking, he would not like to have his name considered,
he felt that it

primarily because

would be a breach of faith with the new stockholders of

Discount Corporation, who had been assured that no significant changes
would be made in

the company's management.

sacrifice he would be called upon to make.

He also spoke of the financial
It

would be very considerable;

his present aggregate salary and bonus are several times as large as the
top of the salary range applicable to the Manager.
is

60 years old,

Furthermore, Mr. Repp

and a change at this time would have a very considerable

effect on his retirement pay.

Beyond this, it

was clear that he takes

considerable pride in being the "boss of his own show" and would be
reluctant to move from this to a role in which he would necessarily be
subject to the instructions of a relatively large organization

After expressing regret over this conclusion,
asked whether, in Mr. Repp's

Mr. Hayes then

judgment, Mr. Bethke would be likely to be

interested in having his name considered.
Bethke as "very bright, hard working,

Mr. Repp characterized Mr.

energetic,

tion and a very agreeable personality."

full of drive and imagina-

On the other hand, he was not sure

that he possessed quite as much "toughness" in dealing with the "hard-boiled"
participants in the securities market as the Committee had a right to look
for in

the Manager.

Nevertheless,

as instructed by the nominating group,

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Hayes asked him to make some discreet and highly confidential

soundings to ascertain whether we should look upon him as an available
Mr. Repp undertook to do so, on an "objective" basis, although

candidate.

he did not conceal his hope that Mr. Bethke would wish to remain with
Discount Corporation.

A day or two later Mr. Repp reported that he had

discussed this question with Mr. Bethke; that Mr.

Bethke was quite flat-

tered to be considered as even a possibility; that he had thought over
the matter carefully and objectively, and had come to the conclusion that
his name should not be considered.

While he had recognized the strong

appeal of the job's public service aspects and its

intellectual stimula-

tion, nevertheless he enjoyed his association with the Discount Corporation

and particularly the competitive aspects of the work, as well as the
opportunities for substantial financial remuneration.
indicated that Mr.

(Mr. Repp had already

Bethke would very soon be obtaining a combined salary

and bonus very substantially in excess

of the top salary range for the

Manager.)
The experience of the nominating group with these informal
soundings convinces them of the serious difficulties that would be likely
to be met in

any attempt to attract to the post of Manager any individual

occupying a post of senior responsibility with one of the leading banks or
financial houses.

The Committee felt

that there were appreciable risks in

proceeding too extensively with exploratory conversations of the kind outlined above,

since it

might be difficult to prevent spreading of rumors

that the position of Manager was being "shopped around."

The group there-

fore decided to proceed with further deliberations among the members of
the group but without additional exploratory conversations on availability.

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-8One name that was given serious consideration was that of
Mr.

Gable, who had served as Special Assistant to the Secretary of the

Treasury during the previous Administration and who is
in

the System and in

well known to many

financial circles generally.

After weighing carefully the merits and drawbacks of all of the
candidates listed above,

the informal nominating group concluded that,

among those who would be likely to be obtainable,

Mr. Stone appeared to

possess a better combination of the qualities that the Committee is seeking
than any of the others.

Wm. McC. Martin,

Jr.

C. Canby Balderston
Alfred Hayes

May 1, 1962.