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U N IT E D S T A T E S D E P A R T M E N T OF L A B O R Frances Perkins, Secretary B U R E A U OF L A B O R S T A T IS T IC S Isador Lubin, Commissioner + Employment and Earnings in the Engineering Profession 1929 to 1934 By A N D R E W F R A S E R , JR . o f th e B u rea u o f L a b or Statistics u n d er th e d ir e c tio n o f A . F. H IN R IC H S , A ssista n t C om m ission er B u reau o f L ab or Statistics B ulletin 682 U N IT E D S T A T E S G O V E R N M E N T P R IN T IN G OFFICE W A S H IN G T O N : 1941 For sale by the Superintendent o f Documents, Washington, D . C. Price 25 cents U N IT E D STATES D E P A R T M E N T OF LABO R F ran c es P e r k in s , Secretary BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS I s a d o r L u b i n , C o m m issio n er A. F. H in r i c h s , A s s is ta n t C o m m is sio n e r D o n a l d D a v e n p o r t , Chief, Employ ment Outlook Branch and Construction H u g h S. H a n n a , Chief, Editorial and Research A r y n e s s J o y , Chief, Prices and Cost H e n r y J. F it z g e r a l d , Chief, Business Management Branch of Living Branch S id n e y W. W i l c o x , Chief Statistician C H IE F S OF D IV IS IO N S H e r m a n B . B y e r , Construction and Public Employment J. M. C utts, Wholesale Prices S w e n K j a e r , Industrial Accidents J o h n J. M a h a n e y , Machine Tabula tion F. S h a r k e y , Information C harles B o r is St e r n , Labor Statistics F l o r e n c e P e t e r s o n , Industrial Rela tions ii Information Bulletin S t e l l a S t e w a r t , Retail Prices E. T a l b e r t , Statistics L e w is R o b e r t J. M y e r s , Wage and Hour Labor Law E m m ett H. W elch, Employment Occupational Outlook F a it h M. W il l i a m s , Cost of Living CONTENTS Page Preface_____________________________________________________________________ Summary__________________________________________________________________ C hapter I.— Scope and method___________________________________________ Purpose and collection of data________________________________________ The number of returns________________________________________________ Comparison with previous studies____________________________________ The components of the sample________________________________________ Adequacy of returns received from engineers entering the profession prior to 1930________________________________________________________ Adequacy of returns received from younger engineers________________ Weighting returns from younger engineers____________________________ C hapter II.— The growth of the engineering profession, 1910 to 1934____ C hapter III.— Educational qualifications of professional engineers______ Educational requirements and professional engineering status________ Educational specialization by professional class_______________________ Trends in educational background____________________________________ Growth of postgraduate work in engineering_________________________ The extent of transfers from original courses of specialization________ C hapter IV.— Employment in the engineering profession, 1929 to 1934__ Supply and demand for engineering services, 1929 to 1934___________ Employment status of all professional engineers_________________ Employment status of five professional classes___________________ Employment status of two groups of younger engineers_________ Employment status of older and younger engineers______________ Employment opportunities for older and younger engineers con trasted_________________________________________________________ Employment status of professional classes by age groups________ Employment in relation to engineering experience____________________ Employment in relation to type of education_________________________ Fields of engineering activity_________________________________________ Types of engineering work____________________________________________ C hapter V.— Conditions of employment in the engineering profession___ Means used to obtain employment____________________________________ Economic security in the engineering profession______________________ Civil-service status_______________________________________________ The employment contract________________________________________ Provision for retirement on pension______________________________ C hapter VI.— Unemployment in the engineering profession, 1929 to 1934_ Unemployment at end of 1929, 1932, and 1934, by professional class, type of education, and age__________________________________________ Incidence of unemployment, 1930 to 1934, inclusive, by professional class, type of education, and age___________________________________ Periods of unemployment, 1930 to 1934, inclusive, by professional class, type of education, and age___________________________________ h i ix 1 20 20 21 23 23 24 32 34 36 41 41 42 44 45 46 48 48 48 49 53 54 58 61 67 72 75 78 81 81 84 84 85 89 92 92 99 104 IV CONTENTS Page C hapter V I.— Continued. Influence of regional location on unemployment______________________ Public relief among professional engineers, 1929 to 1934______________ Direct relief_______________________________________________________ Work relief at end of 1929, 1932, and 1934; by professional class, type of education, and age____________________________________ Work relief, 1930 to 1934, inclusive, by professional class, type of education, and age_____________________________________________ C hapter V II.— Patent privileges of professional engineers________________ Patent privileges by field of engineering activity______________________ Patent privileges by type of engineering work________________________ C hapter V III.— Earned annual incomes of professional engineers, 1929 to 1934_____________________________________________________________________ Salient features of the data___________________________________________ Earned annual incomes from all sources in 1929, 1932, and 1934____ Incomes of all engineers combined without regard to age______ Incomes by professional class, without regard to age____________ Annual income related to age— all engineers combined__________ Incomes in relation to advancing age and experience____________ Incomes of engineers of identical ages____________________________ Annual income and education, without regard to age____________ Annual income related to age and type of education_____________ Sources of earned annual income, 1929 to 1934_______________________ Incomes from engineering and nonengineering work_____________ Changes in incomes, 1929 to 1934________________________________ Incomes of unemployed engineers________________________________ C hapter I X .— Monthly earnings of professional engineers, 1929 to 1934_ Engineering earnings without regard to kind of engineering employ ment in 1929, 1932, and 1934_______________________________________ Earnings of all engineers combined without regard to age_______ Earnings by professional class, without regard to age____________ Earnings related to age— all engineers combined_________________ Earnings of enginers of identical ages____________________________ Earnings in relation to advancing age and experience____________ Earnings and education, without regard to age__________________ Earnings related to age and type of education___________________ Earnings by kind of engineering employment_________________________ Earnings by field of engineering activity______________________________ Earnings by type of engineering work________________________________ Earnings by geographical division____________________________________ Earnings by size of city_______________________________________________ C hapter X .— Limitations of the data for prediction purposes____________ 108 112 112 113 115 120 120 122 124 124 127 127 129 131 138 139 140 142 150 153 156 160 162 162 162 164 167 171 172 174 175 181 191 196 200 203 208 List o f Appendixes A ppendix A.— Facsimile of questionnaire used to collect data____________ A ppendix B.— Detailed statistical tables pertaining to scope and methodTable 1.— Allocation of engineers in minor professional classes with allied major professional classes_________________________ A ppendix C.— Detailed statistical tables pertaining to educational qualifi cations of professional engineers________________________ Table 1.— Distribution of all engineering graduates with course same as professional class reported at end of 1934, by year of graduation___________________________________________ 214 218 218 219 219 CONTENTS A A A A A Page p p e n d i x C.— Continued. p p p p p p p p V Table 2.— Distribution of all engineering graduates with course differ ent from professional class reported at end of 1934, by year of graduation_____________________________________ e n d i x D.— Detailed statistical tables pertaining to the growth of the profession_______________________________________________ Table 1.— Number of enrollments and first-degree graduations from engineering colleges,1920 to 1934________________________ e n d i x E.— Detailed statistical tables pertaining to unemployment in the engineering profession_______________________________ Table 1.— Distribution of all engineers reporting gross unemploy ment, 1930 to 1934, by type of education and professional class______________________________________________ Table 2.— Distribution of all engineers reporting net unemployment, 1930 to 1934, by type of education and professional class_____________________________________________________ Table 3.— Number of graduate engineers reporting unemployment, and work relief after specified unemployment, 1930 to 1934, by years of graduation____________________________ e n d i x F.— Detailed statistical tables pertaining to earned annual in comes of professional engineers_________________________ Table 1.— Distribution of gross number of all engineers combined reporting annual earnings in 1929, 1932, and 1934, from all types of employment, by age________________________ e n d i x G.— Detailed statistical tables pertaining to monthly earnings of professional engineers________________________________ Table 1.— Distribution of number of engineers reporting monthly engineering earnings in 1929, 1932, and 1934___________ Table 2.— Distribution of gross number of all engineers combined reporting monthly engineering earnings in 1929, 1932, and 1934, by age________________________________________ 221 223 223 224 224 226 228 229 229 232 232 233 List of Charts I:— Scope and method. Chart 1.— Distribution curves of all older professional engineers re porting age in 1935 survey and in 1930 Census (all pro fessional classes combined)_____________________________ Chart 2.— Distribution curves of all older professional engineers re porting age in 1935 survey and in 1930 Census (by pro fessional class)__________________________________________ Chart 2a.— Distribution curves of all older professional engineers reporting age in 1935 survey and in 1930 Census (by professional class)____ ________________________________ h a p t e r III.— Educational qualifications of professional engineers. Chart 3.— National distribution of the 9 professional classes by type of education— 1934______________________________________ h a p t e r IV.— Employment in the engineering profession, 1929 to 1934. Chart 4.— Distribution of employment status of professional engineers by age group at end of 1929, 1932, and 1934____________ Chart 5.— Distribution of kinds of engineering employment of older engineers at end of 1929 (by professional class)__________ h a p t e r V III.— Earned annual incomes of professional engineers, 1929 to 1934. Chart 6.— Earned annual income of engineers according to age, 1929-_ C hapter C C C 28 30 31 43 63 68 134 VI CONTENTS V III.— Continued. Chart 7.— Medians of earned annual income according to age, 1929, 1932, and 1934________________________________________ Chart 8.— Upper and lower quartiles of earned annual income accord ing to age, 1929, 1932, and 1934________________________ Chart 9.— Upper and lower deciles of earned annual income according to age, 1929, 1932, and 1934___________________________ Chart 10.— Comparison of medians of earned annual income according to age, 1929 (for specific types of education)____________ Chart 11.— Earned annual income of professional engineers in engineer ing and nonengineering work by age in 1929____________ C h a p t e r I X .— Monthly earnings of professional engineers, 1929 to 1934. Chart 12.— Monthly compensation of professional engineers in engin eering work by age in 1929______________________________ Chart 13.— Comparison of medians of monthly rate of compensation according to age, 1929 (for specific types of education)___ C hapter Page 135 136 137 144 155 169 178 Letter of Transmittal U n ited S tates D epar tm en t of L a b o r , B u r e a u of L abor S ta tistic s , Washington, D. C., June 3, 1940. The S ecretary of L abor: I have the honor to transmit herewith a report on Employment and Earnings in the Engineering Profession. This report was prepared by the Bureau of Labor Statistics at the request of American Engineering Council. I sador L u b in , Commissioner. Hon. F rances P e r k in s , Secretary of Labor. V II P R E FA C E In the engineering profession there are not only certain similarities in the qualifications required in the various branches of activity but there is also a great degree of specialization. Once a field of speciali zation has been selected, there is relatively little movement between the various engineering groups. This study not only presents a picture of the broad profession known as engineering, but also of the major professional classifications which include civil, mechanical, mining, chemical, and electrical engineering. It deals with the changes in employment opportunity and income within the engineering profession over the period from 1929 to 1934. It gives a cross-section of a number of professional groups at a given point in time. It also portrays the ebb and flow of their fortunes over a critical period. The extent of the coverage is a manifestation of the interest of individual engineers in the fortunes of their profession and of the whole-hearted cooperation offered the Bureau of Labor Statistics by the engineering societies and the deans of engineering schools. An adequate summary of the several analyses can hardly be more than briefly presented in the first pages of this report. Among the high lights are the following: 1. The number of engineers increased by more than 25 percent between 1929 and 1934. The number of engineering jobs increased by less than 5 percent. 2. In both 1932 and 1934 substantial numbers of engineers were unemployed. In the worst period approximately one-tenth were unemployed at the same time. 3. A far larger proportion, about one-third of the total number, experienced unemployment at one time or another from 1929 to 1934. 4. Under these conditions entry into the profession was unusually difficult. Large numbers of the graduates of the classes of 1930-34 were unemployed for considerable periods. Many were forced into nonengineering employments and entrance salary rates were severely depressed. 5. Despite this fact, three-fifths of the graduates of 1930-34 did have engineer ing jobs at the close of 1934. 6. Older engineers were less likely than younger engineers to lose their jobs. When they did so, however, the older engineers had a more difficult time in getting themselves rehired. 7. The small increase in the total number of engineering jobs between 1929 and 1934 is entirely due to an increase in public employment. Employment with private firms declined 8.2 percent. 8. The average annual earnings of all engineers declined from $3,412 in 1929 to $2,286 in 1934, a decline of one-third. This reflects lower rates, loss of em ployment and poorer types of employment. IX X PREFACE 9. The average rates paid for all engineering services declined from $289 per month to $210, a decrease of 27.3 percent. 10. At any time there is a wide range in the annual earnings of engineers. Thus, in 1929, 10 percent earned less than $1,878 while the highest 10 percent earned more than $7,466. 11. The average earnings of engineers increased with age up to the group 60 to 65 years of age. The initial increases are relatively rapid. 12. The earnings of the lowest 10 percent of the engineers of comparable age do not advance significantly after 40 years of age, and are little if any higher than the usual average earnings of groups 3 or 4 years after graduation. 13. While differences in earnings among the various classes of engineering are quite pronounced, the striking characteristic of entrance rates into the profession is their similarity as between different classes of engineers and as between different types of work. This study is the first of its kind made by the Bureau of Labor Sta tistics. W ith the recent establishment of the Occupational Outlook Service in the Bureau, similar studies will be made in the future. It is obvious from this study that problems of earnings and employ ment opportunity are by no means confined to wage workers and that the Department of Labor must be concerned with other groups whose income depends upon the sale of their services. The “ labor problem ,” if it ever was primarily the problem of a special class in the commun ity, has become in one way or another the problem of virtually all groups. While this study should have an important place in the literature of trends of social forces in the United States, it will also necessarily serve more immediate practical forecasting purposes. Young persons making a choice of a profession must project the probable future advantages of the several alternatives that may be open to them. In this connection, the results of the present study must be used with great caution. For example, it cannot be too strongly emphasized that the present average earnings of a group who have been in a profession for 15 years is not a measure of the probable earnings 15 years hence of a group entering the profession this year. The group will, of course, be subject to the usual vicissitudes of changing price and wage levels. Furthermore, the present earnings of any two age groups reflect not only present conditions but also carry into the present the background of conditions prevailing when each group entered the profession. If there were comparatively few professional workers 15 years ago in a field in which production has since expanded rapidly, it follows that there will be comparatively few people with long experience relative to the present demand. The present earnings of this group are likely to reflect this scarcity, and to carry a premium that will not continue when the supply of new entrants becomes relatively large. Forecasts of relative earnings and opportunities must, there- PREFACE XI fore, involve forecasts of supply and demand. This the present report has not attempted, except as a knowledge of changing condi tions in recent years may furnish a starting point for cautious projection. The report was prepared by Andrew Fraser, Jr., under the direction of A. F. Hinrichs, Assistant Commissioner of the Bureau. The clerical work for the survey was directed by Abner C. Lakenan. The machine tabulation work was conducted by J. Paul Kingston under the direction of John J. Mahaney, Chief, Machine Tabulation Division. I sador L u b in , Commissioner oj Labor Statistics. B u lle t in 7\[o. 68 2 o f t h e U n it e d S t a t e s B u r e a u o f L a b o r S t a t i s t ic s Employment and Earnings in the Engineering Profession, 1929 to 1934 Summary This report on employment and earnings of professional engineers deals with information collected in 1935 by the Bureau of Labor Statistics, at the request of American Engineering Council, in order to determine the effects of the depression upon professional engineers during the period 1930-34. Scope and Method The data were collected by means of a mail questionnaire, a copy of which was sent to each of 173,151 professional engineers. This list may be considered as representative of every phase of professional engineering activity, in that it was compiled through the cooperation of most of the engineering societies in the country, with additional names furnished by 32 State boards of engineering examiners and the deans of 156 engineering schools. The net number of usable returns was 52,589, or 30.4 percent of the original mailing list. The 52,589 returns embraced 33,841 older engineers who reported that they were professionally active prior to 1930. The remaining 18,748 returns included younger engineers who had entered the profession in the period 1930-34. The 33,841 returns from the older engineers averaged 15 percent of the 226,136 technical engineers reported in the 1930 census. On a regional basis, and separately for four groupings of professional classes, the age composition of the returns closely approximated the 1930 census data. Comparison of the 18,748 returns from younger professional engineers, which covered primarily men with first degrees in engineering, with the corresponding Office of Education data for the period 1930-34 shows that approximately 32 percent of all such engineers furnished information to the Bureau. The two parts of the sample obtained in this survey can be con sidered as representative of all professional engineers in the country. They are also representative of the profession even in combination after adjustment had been made for the disproportion in the returns received from older and younger engineers whenever a cross section of the profession was required for the years 1932 and 1934. 1 2 EM P LO YM E N T, EARNINGS---- ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 - 3 4 The Growth of the Engineering Profession, 1910 to 1934 T o understand better the problems faced by the profession in the period 1930-34, special consideration was given to the growth of the profession. This analysis shows: that for the decade 1910-19, the census indicates an absolute increase in technical engineers from 88,744 to 136,080, or 53.3 percent. In the decade 1920-29 the increase was from 136,080 to 226,136, or 66.2 percent. From 1930 to 1934, reports made in the present survey indicate a growth of 26.4 percent, or in absolute numbers in the sample from 33,841 in 1929 to 42,787 in 1934. Despite similarity in annual influx the data reveal that the rate of increase of technically trained engineers during the depression was slightly less than it had been in the decade of the 1920’ s. For the latter period, the compound rate of growth apparently was 5}{ percent per year as against a compound rate of growth of 4% percent per year in the period 1930-34. Further comparison of the two periods shows a marked change in the source of supply of engineers. In the depression years the colleges were supplying as many engineers with degrees as were supplied in the 1920’s from all sources. In the 1920’ s, a sub stantial number of entrants to the profession were nongraduates with an incomplete college course. This raising of educational standards appears to be definitely related to the change in the relationship of the demand for professional services to the supply of trained engineers. W hat this change meant, and also that which occurred in the increase in the number of professional engineers in terms of employment and unemployment, is developed in this report. Educational Qualifications of Professional Engineers Although the reports in the survey embraced a substantia] number of men who had obtained professional engineering status without formal engineering education, analysis reveals that a first degree in engineering is almost a prerequisite to obtaining professional status. Insistence upon rigid engineering education as a prerequisite to engineering experience is further evidenced by the fact that all but a very small proportion of the agricultural, ceramic, and chemical engineers had college degrees. However, as many as 17.3 percent of the civil engineers were not college graduates. Despite the fact that first degrees predominate in all professional classes, the extent of educational specialization showed considerable variation. Thus, while first degrees in engineering were reported by 63.4 percent of the architectural engineers, the highest proportion (77.3 percent) was found in the case of the ceramic engineers. In stances of transfer of engineers from their original course of special ization to other fields of activity were negligible. SUMMARY 3 Although the data also reveal a distinct growth in postgraduate training in engineering, the ratios of engineers with postgraduate training show marked differences in the demand for a higher degree of educational specialization and more elaborate training. In the case of chemical engineers, the percentage was as high as 15.7. The percentage for agricultural engineers with graduate degrees was almost equally large. Among the other seven professional classes, the proportions of postgraduates ranged from 3.5 in the case of industrial engineers to 9.3 for both ceramic and mining and metal lurgical engineers. Employment in the Engineering Profession, 1929 to 1934 Supply and demand jo r engineering services, 1929 to 1934•— Over the 5-year period ending December 1934, the number of persons in, or trained for, the engineering profession increased by 25.3 percent.1 On the other hand, opportunities for engineering employment in creased only 4.4 percent. The result was a large amount of un employment and intense pressure to find nonengineering work. Thus, the proportion of engineers engaged in nonengineering employments increased from 6.3 percent in 1929 to 14.1 percent in 1934. The proportion unemployed increased from 0.7 to 8.5 percent. Had it not been for the large increase in the employment of engineers by public authorities, the effect of the depression on the profession would have been even more disastrous. Thus, private engineering employment decreased by 11.8 percent from 1929 to 1932, and despite some increase from 1932 to 1934, it was still 8.2 percent below the 1929 level at the end of the 5-year period 1930-34. On the other hand, there was a 46.8 percent expansion in public employment of engineers. The absolute increase reported in private engineering employment between December 1932 and December 1934 was only half of that obtaining in engineering employment with public authori ties. Relative to the numbers so employed in 1932, the rate of increase in public engineering employment was almost five times as great as that in private engineering employment. Over the period 1930-34 the increase in the number of engineers among the several professional classes ranged from 17.6 percent for mining and metallurgical to 62.5 percent in the case of chemical and ceramic engineers, but in no professional class did total engineering employment keep pace with the growing number of engineers. i This increase of 25.3 percent differs b y 1.1 percent from that of 26.4 percent noted in the discussion of the growth of the profession. This difference is explained by the fact that in tabulating the data on employment status homogeneity of the sample of older and 1930-1932 engineers was maintained. That is, in the case of the former, only those reporting for the 3 years 1929, 1932, and 1934 were used; in the case of the latter, only those reporting for the 2 years 1932 and 1934 were included. While the difference between the 2 percentages does not materially affect the analysis, it does indicate that the percentage of engineers eliminated from the tabulations was small. 4 E M PLO YM EN T, EARNINGS---- ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 - 3 4 Furthermore, the opportunities for private engineering employment differed markedly among the professional classes. Thus, over the 5-year period, private engineering employment increased by more than a third for chemical and ceramic engineers. Employment of electrical, mining and metallurgical, and mechanical and industrial engineers remained relatively constant. In the case of the civil engineers, there was a decrease of about one-third in private engineer ing employment. All professional classes participated in the increases in employment of engineers by public authorities. The sharpest increases occurred in the period 1932-34. The most pronounced increase occurred among civil engineers. The proportion of this group employed by public authorities increased from 40.0 percent in 1929 to 48.5 in 1934. In 1929 private engineering furnished by far the greatest employ ment for engineers. For civil engineers this covered 54.3 percent. There was a range of from 80.6 to 87.3 percent among the other four professional classes. B y December 1932 private engineering among civil engineers had dropped to 37.6 percent and by December 1934 to 31.8 percent. There was also a continuous decline in this type of employment among electrical engineers; only 63.1 percent reporting such employment in December 1934. There was only a slight im provement over 1932 for the remaining professional classes. In 1934 these three averaged 69.1 percent. Nonengineering employment increased sharply from 1929 to 1932 and in equal measure for all professional classes, absorbing many more engineers than did public engineering, in which employment also increased. But despite the fact that the proportions of all engineers in nonengineering employment rose from 6.3 percent in 1929 to 12.0 percent in 1932, there was an even larger increase in unemployment. This situation was common to all professional classes. Between Decem ber 1932 and December 1934 there were further increases in nonengineering employment for all professional classes, although the increases were not so great as between 1929 and 1932. Unemploy ment declined for all professional classes, except for civil engineers. Of all engineers who reported as being professionally active prior to 1930, only 46.2 percent were in the employ of private firms in 1934; in 1929, 62.2 percent were so engaged. Federal Government em ployment provided for 10.1 percent in December 1934; in 1929, this field gave employment to only 5.3 percent. Over the period 1930-34 there was a remarkable stability in the number of engineers classified as independent consultants, and those engineers engaged in the teaching of engineering subjects. This was also the case for those in the employ of State, county, municipal, and other public authorities, especially if considered together. SUMMARY 5 Despite the fact that 5,003, or 16 percent, of the reporting engi neers active in the profession before 1930 suffered a loss of private engineering employment by 1934, some 3,112, or 18 percent, of the new entrants found engineering work with private firms. The in crease in public engineering employment was shared by both older and younger engineers. Employment in relation to engineering experience.— Analysis of the employment data in relation to advancing age and experience shows that private engineering predominates as a first field of employment for recent graduates. W ith advancing age, the decline in the propor tions so reporting was very marked indeed. For civil engineers, public engineering employment follows in importance after private engineering employment as first fields of employment opportunity. B y contrast, the two most important sources of employment after private firms for recent graduates in the other professional classes were teaching and nonengineering. Among all professional classes, both State and county government employment and that with municipal and other public authorities constituted both training grounds and fields of final employment. B y contrast, Federal Government employment was virtually a field of final employment or one suited for men with years of experience. Independent consulting was practically nonexistent as a type of employment for recent graduates. Employment in relation to type oj education.— Engineers, irrespective of the type of education they have received, are overwhelmingly dependent upon private industry for employment. Only among post graduates did private firms employ as little as one-half. For firstdegree engineering graduates, State and county work followed in importance after private-firm employment (7.3 percent). This pro portion differed but slightly from those reporting nonengineering work or employment with municipal and other public authorities. Among those with postgraduate training, no less than 29.4 percent were engaged in teaching. Of the 1,729 engineers engaged in the teaching of engineering subjects, 60.7 percent were first-degree engi neering graduates and 31.8 percent were postgraduates. Nonengi neering graduates and engineers who had not completed a college course embraced the same proportions (3.3 percent). The next highest percentage of 0.8 referred to noncollegiate technical school engineers. The analysis makes it evident that experience and not education was the important criterion for entry into independent consulting work. Fields oj engineering activity.— In regard to fields of engineering activity, chemical and ceramic engineers were more dependent upon 2 8 5 2 0 8 ° — 4 1 --------2 6 E M P LO YM E N T, EARNINGS---- ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 - 3 4 manufacturing industries for their employment than any of the other four professional classes. N ot less than 66.6 percent of the older engineers were so engaged in December 1934. For all three age groups, 4.5 percent were employed by public utilities and 5.7 percent were in extractive industries. Transportation and construction work were practically nil as fields of engineering activity for chemical and ceramic engineers. Public engineering included 8.5 percent, while 11.6 percent were engaged in teaching and other forms of personal service. In general, mechanical and industrial engineers closely paralleled the distributions noted for chemical and ceramic engineers. Both mining and metallurgical engineers and electrical engineers had alternative fields of engineering activity to manufacturing, name ly, extractive industries and public utilities. W ith advancing age, the proportions of these professional classes in manufacturing steadily declined, while those reported for both extractive industries and public utilities steadily increased. In the remaining fields of engi neering activity, these two professional classes show similar distribu tions. Civil engineers predominate in the construction fields of private industry and public employment, while their opportunities in other fields were very low. Thus, in manufacturing only 5.4 percent of their older engineers were so employed, in public utilities 3.8 percent, in extractive industries 2.7 percent, and in transportation 4.3 percent. The 6.9 percent reporting in personal service was relatively the lowest of the five professional classes. Types of engineering work.— Consideration of the distributions of engineers by types of engineering work shows that civil engineers predominate in construction and that this is the predominant type of work for civil engineers. For all other classes of engineers the most important type of employment was “ operation” — production, main tenance, etc., under supervision. The next most important type of employment was design and research. Sales work is more important as a source of employment to electrical and mechanical and industrial engineers than to other classes of engineers. As would be expected, general administration and management covered a higher proportion of younger mechanical and industrial engineers than are reported by any other professional class. Among the older engineers reporting, however, there was little difference be tween the various classes in the proportions so engaged. Consulting and teaching both presented the same characteristics. First, they did not offer a wide range of employment to younger engi neers, and second, there was a close similarity in the proportions of all older engineers engaged in these two types of work. SUMMARY 7 C onditions o f Em ploym ent in the Engineering Profession Analysis of reports furnished by engineers in engineering work in December 1934 shows that 68.4 percent of all professional engineers used personal contacts and recommendations to obtain their jobs. Those who used this medium, together with those who obtained their positions through the civil service, formed nearly four-fifths of all reporting. The degree of economic security among professional engineers, as evidenced by possession of an employment contract covering some period of time, or by pension privileges, was negligible. U nem ploym ent in the Engineering Profession, 1929 to 1934 Unemployment at end oj 1929, 1932, and 1934-— Between the ends of 1929 and 1932, the percentage of engineers who were unemployed increased from 0.7 to 10.1. A t the end of 1934 the percentage was 8.5. There was slight variation in the proportions of unemployment among the various professional groups for each of the three periods. Thus, in 1932, the range was from 8.6 percent for the chemical and ceramic engineers to 10.7 for mechanical and industrial engineers. In 1929, while 2.0 percent of the mining and metallurgical engineers reported unemployment, the range for the remaining professional classes was only from 0.5 to 0.7 percent. So also in 1934 there is a narrow range for all professional groups, except civil engineers. In their case the proportion unemployed increased from 10.0 to 10.2 percent. As of December 31, 1929, the percentage range of unemployment was from 0.4, in the case of the youngest engineers, to 1.9 for engineers 48 years and over. B y December 1932 unemployment had increased markedly for all age groups. Unemployment was least (8.0 percent of the total) for engineers 31 to 40 years of age in 1932 (33 to 42 years of age in 1934); it rose, however, to 10.9 percent among the oldest engineers, those over 50 years of age in 1932. B y December 1934 many of the older engineers were still unable to obtain work, and there is a very strong presumption that the preference in new hirings was given to the younger men. Thus, unemployment among those who graduated from 1925 to 1929 was cut from 10.6 per cent in December 1932 to 7.0 percent in December 1934. Declines also occurred between these periods among those who had graduated from 1930 to 1932, and those 41 to 50 years of age in 1932. But the proportion of those over 50 in 1932 reporting unemployment rose from 10.9 percent in December 1932 to 11.5 percent in December 1934. Among the several professional classes, with the possible exception of chemical engineers, unemployment at all three dates was higher for those who were 53 years of age or over in 1934 than for the younger men who entered the profession in the period 1925-29. 8 EM P L O Y M E N T , EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 - 3 4 Incidence of unemployment, 1930 to 1984, inclusive.— M ore than 34 percent of all the engineers reporting were unemployed at one time or another in the period 1930-34, as against about 10 percent who were unemployed on December 31, 1932. For all graduates 33.9 percent experienced unemployment. This percentage differs but slightly from the general average of 35.4 and 35.6 percent, respectively, for engineers who did not complete a college course and for engineers with a noncollegiate technical-school training. In all professional groups there appeared an age beyond which there was apparently a common risk of unemployment. For civil engineers it was 43 years of age, whereas for electrical, and mechanical and industrial engineers it occurred after 33 years of age. There appears to have been no greater incidence of unemployment among the engi neers 53 years of age and over than there was among those 43 to 52 years of age. A t all ages, civil engineering showed the greatest extent of unem ployment. Thus, of this group graduating in 1930 to 1932, 59.7 per cent reported unemployment at some time during the 5 years covered. The next highest percentage, 54.7, was found among electrical and mining and metallurgical engineers. Among civil engineers graduat ing prior to 1914, approximately 27 percent reported unemployment, whereas approximately 24 percent of the mechanical and industrial engineers, and mining and metallurgical engineers so reported. Periods of unemployment, 1930 to 1934, inclusive.— For the country as a whole, the median period of unemployment for engineers who were college graduates was 12.2 months. For engineers who did not complete their college course it was 16.3 months, and for those with a noncollegiate technical-school training, it was 17.3 months. The average length of the period of unemployment increased with age. When the older engineers became unemployed, unemployment lasted longer than it did with the younger engineers. Thus, the median period of unemployment for engineers graduating in 1925-29 was 12.1 months, whereas the median for those graduating prior to 1905 was 23.1 months. This rapid increase in the length of the average period of unem ployment holds also with reference to all of the separate professional classifications. In the case of electrical engineers, the average rose from 14.1 months for those men 33 to 42 years of age to 25.3 months for those who were over 53 years of age. For mechanical and indus trial engineers, the increase was from 15.2 to 22.2 months, and in the case of civil engineers from 12.9 to 22.9 months. The influence of regional location on unemployment was practically negligible, whether considered from the point of view of differences in incidence or of severity of unemployment. SUMMARY 9 Public relief among professional engineers, 1929 to 1984•— A t no time was direct relief extensive among professional engineers, but the de velopment of work-relief programs after 1932 was important. In fact relief work on work-relief projects was the main source of assistance to those who remained unemployed. Thus, on December 31, 1932, when slightly more than 10 percent of the engineers were unemployed, only 0.7 percent were on work relief. Two years later nearly 5 percent of all engineers were on work relief, which was approximately half of the total number of engineers unemployed at that time. The reports for December 31, 1934, show striking differences in the extent of work relief as between civil engineers and the other pro fessional classes. A t that time 6.2 percent of all civil, agricultural, and architectural engineers were on work relief as compared with only 2.2 percent of all the other professional classes combined. Among engineers with an incomplete college course, 19.6 percent of the civil-engineer group reported some work relief, whereas only 7.5 percent of those in the other professions considered together so re ported. Among college graduates, work relief was reported by 16.8 percent of the civil-engineer group and by only 10.9 percent of the mining and metallurgical engineers. For the other professional classes, the percentages were 8.3 for both electrical and mechanical and industrial engineers, and 6.6 for chemical and ceramic engineers. In all professional classes, age was an important factor in the fre quency of work relief. Thus, there was relatively little difference as regards the frequency of work-relief experience between those gradu ating in 1930-32 and those graduating in 1933-34. B y contrast, the percentage of civil engineers and electrical engineers who reported work relief was only half as large among those graduating prior to 1915 as among those graduating in 1930 or later years. The median period of work relief was approximately 5 months. Essentially, the periods were the same for both civil engineers and mechanical engineers, though the average period was perhaps shorter in the case of electrical engineers. In more than four-fifths of the cases, those who reported a period of work relief also reported a period of unemployment. Patent Privileges of Professional Engineers In general, there appears to be little restriction upon professional engineers with regard to patent rights to inventions made by them. The extent of restriction, however, depended largely upon the engi neer’s field of employment and the type of work in which engaged. 10 E M P LO YM E N T, EARNINGS---- ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 - 3 4 Earned A n n u a l Incomes o f Professional Engineers, 1929 to 1934 E arned A n n u a l Incom es fr o m all Sou rces in 1929, 1932, and 1934 Incomes of engineers without regard to age.— In 1929, 50 percent of the 30,032 reporting engineers earned more than $3,412, and 50 per cent earned less than that amount. Twenty-five percent earned more than $5,012, and 10 percent had incomes in excess of $7,466 per annum. On the other hand, 25 and 10 percent of the engineers earned, respectively, less than $2,509 and $1,878 per year. Also in 1929 and without regard to the age distributions of the different classes, 10 percent of the mining and metallurgical engineers earned more than $9,912 per year, chemical and ceramic engineers ranked second with 10 percent earning more than $9,103, and were followed in order by mechanical and industrial engineers ($8,508), electrical engineers ($7,185), and civil engineers ($6,507). A t the upper 25-percent level, mining and metallurgical engineers reported earnings of $6,301 per year, and those of the other professional classes ranged from 4 percent lower for chemical and ceramic engineers to 28 percent lower for civil engineers. This order of professional classes was also maintained in 1932 and 1934. Between 1929 and 1934 the median earnings of all engineers from all sources declined from $3,412 to $2,286, or 33.0 percent. The percent age decrease of the earnings of the highest 10 and 25 percent were about the same as that noted for the median. On the other hand, in 1934, 10 percent of the engineers earned less than $872, a decrease of 53.6 percent at this income level. Almost two-thirds of these decreases in earned annual income occurred between 1929 and 1932. There were further decreases from 1932 to 1934. Over the period 1929 to 1934, relatively, the smallest shrinkages in earnings were reported by the civil engineers, while the chemical and ceramic engineers suffered the greatest cuts. The median income of the former group declined 30.2 percent; of the latter group, 46.2 percent. The decrease for electrical engineers was 32.3 percent; for mining and metallurgical engineers it was 34.5 percent; and for mechanical and industrial engineers, 37.2 percent. Annual income related to agey all engineers combined.— Analysis of the income data reported by all engineers in 1929, 1932, and 1934 shows that average earnings advanced with age up to 60 or 65 years of age. The initial periods of exceptionally rapid rise are followed by slower rates of increase. Thus in 1929 the median earnings of those graduating in 1927-28 were $2,098 and were $3,145 among those who graduated in 1921-24. The average of those who graduated in 188996 ($4,968) was little higher than the average of the group graduating in 1897-1904. Similar relationships, but with lower average earnings for each age group, prevailed in 1932 and 1934. SUMMARY 11 The earnings of the upper 10 percent in each age group advance more rapidly than median earnings. Thus, in 1929, the highest 10 percent of the engineers 25 years of age earned 45 percent more than the median engineer of that age. A t 44 years the earnings of the upper 10 percent were 116 percent greater than the median, and at 60 were 157 percent greater. On the other hand, the level of earn ings of the lowest 10 percent of the engineers of a given age advances less rapidly than at the median level and reaches a maximum at an earlier age. In 1929, 10 percent of the 25-year-old engineers earned less than $1,462, while 10 percent of those who were 44 earned less than $2,683. Even in 1929, in every age group there were some 10 percent or more of the engineers who earned less than an average engineer who had been out of college 4 years or more. W ith advancing age, there fore, the spread between the earnings of the most successful and the least successful engineers became greater. This tendency was more pronounced in 1934 than in 1929. Thus, in 1929 the upper 10 per cent of those graduating in 1889-96 earned more than 5.5 times as much as the lowest 10 percent. In 1934, when many were unem ployed, the upper group averaged 10.7 times as much as the lower. Comparison of the earnings of engineers of identical ages in 1929 and 1934 shows that the average income of engineers who had been out of college for 2 years declined 43 percent. The income of those who had been out 5 years declined 35 percent. For older engineers the decline approximated 30 percent. In all but the youngest age groups the earnings of identical gradu ating classes were lower in 1934 than in 1929. Among the very youngest identical group for whom figures can be shown, the classes of 1927-28, the tendency for earnings to advance with experience almost exactly offset the tendency of earnings for any given job to decline during the depression. Annual income and education.— Consideration of the incomes reported by engineers of different educational backgrounds shows that those with a formal engineering education did receive a higher income. The differences in earnings, however, did not accrue in equal measure for all five professional classes. A t the lowest ages, engineers who have achieved professional status after a high-school education enjoy an advantage in earning capacity. A t about 28 years of age this initial advantage is lost. The 1929 average earnings of the graduates in various classes of engineering ranged from $2,725 to $3,000 per year, and those of the corresponding “ other” or nongraduate group of engineers from $2,430 to $2,650. W ith advancing age, the spreads in earnings in favor of the gradu ates became very marked indeed. For example, at 5, 20, and 37 years after graduation, the earnings of first-degree mechanical and 12 E M P LO YM E N T, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 - 3 4 industrial engineers exceeded by $175, $925, and $1,322 per year those of the engineers of the same professional class whose college course was incomplete, and surpassed by $225, $1,160, and $1,815 per year those of engineers with a noncollegiate technical-school education. Even in the graduate groups there was variation in the increases in earning capacity with age among the several professional classes. Thus, the 1929 earnings of first-degree civil engineers who had been out of college for 5 years were only $2,050 less than the earnings of those who had graduated 30 years before, whereas the corresponding difference for chemical and ceramic engineers was $3,600. The ranges in earnings of the remaining graduate groups fell between those reported by the civil and the chemical and ceramic engineers. Sources of Earned Annual Income, 1929 to 1934 Annual incomes from engineering and nonengineering work.— In 1929 there was greater spread in the earnings of engineers engaged in non engineering work than in those obtained from engineering work. Thus, among engineers 40 to 47 years of age, 10 percent of those engaged in nonengineering earned more than $12,424 and 10 percent earned less than $2,420 per year. The respective annual incomes of similar proportions of all those engaged in engineering work were $9,815 and $2,705; and of graduates in engineering $10,088 and $2,936. The age of maximum earning power for engineers arrives more quickly for nonengineering than for engineering work. Thus, at 48 to 55 years of age, those college graduates who stayed in engineering were doing as well as those who had gone into nonengineering work. This was true even at the highest income levels. But despite the fact that in 1929 the tendency was for average annual incomes of engineers engaged in nonengineering to exceed slightly those in en gineering work, the opportunities in nonengineering fields did not embrace more than 7 percent of the total number of engineers in any one age classification. Over the period 1929-34 the relationship changed between the jobs engineers took in engineering and nonengineering work. On the whole it appears that in 1929 nonengineering work was an alternative to engineering work, but from 1929 to 1934 many nonengineering jobs were accepted as an alternative to unemployment or work relief. Those engineers who were able to stay in engineering fared better than those engaged in nonengineering work. Thus, the group of engineers who were engaged in engineering in 1929 when they were 44 years of age averaged $4,562, while the smaller group in engineering in 1934 averaged $3,524. SUMM ARY 13 It was among those newcomers who were trying to force their way into the profession that the greatest fall in annual income from engineering occurred. Thus, average earnings in engineering in 1934, 2 years after graduation, were 37 percent less than in 1929. The earnings of those who had been out of college 10 years were 31 percent lower in 1934 than in 1929. A t higher ages all groups averaged a decrease of 26 percent. Annual incomes of unemployed engineers.— In 1934 almost one-tenth of the engineers were unemployed or on work relief at the end of the year. The low level of earnings of this group during 1934 contributed to lowering the average earnings of all engineers. Thus, of those engineers who were unemployed at the end of 1934 the average earn ings for the preceding 12 months of those who were less than 28 years of age ranged from $700 to $950. Engineers of 40 to 50 years aver aged $1,350. Only about 10 percent of the unemployed, even though they were in those ages at which engineering earnings reached a peak, had made as much as $2,000 in the preceding 12 months. Ten percent made less than $300 a year. Monthly Earnings of Professional Engineers, 1929 to 1934 Although the general changes in monthly rates show similar tend encies to those already described concerning annual earnings data, it should be emphasized that monthly engineering earnings give a more accurate measure of the rate at which engineering services are com pensated than do the annual earnings from engineering work because the latter figure is influenced by continuity of employment as well as rate of remuneration. One of the most important additions to the earlier data is a clari fication of the relationship of engineering entrance rates and rates in succeeding years. Annual data for a class graduating in the middle of the year under consideration are of little significance; monthly rates are significant. Therefore, and directly supplementing what has already been said, it may be noted that 1929 average engineering earnings for the graduating class of 1929 were $149. The average in 1929 for the class of 1927-28 was $181. The 1934 average entrance rate was $110. The range of rates of earnings embracing four-fifths of the engineers of the class of 1929 in 1929 was $115 to $215. The corresponding range in 1934 was $75 to $149. The upper level of 1934 was the same as the average of 1929. Thus, from this more exact measure of entrance rates, it is possible to see the extent to which the depression and the pressure for jobs slowed down the rate of increase in earnings from engineering. Thus the average monthly rate received by 1929 graduates in 1929 was $149. In 1932 it was $156 for such of this class as were engaged in engineering and in 1934 was $162. Those of the class of 1932 in 14 EM PLO YM EN T, EARNINGS---- ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 - 3 4 engineering averaged $111 in 1932, as against $124 in 1934. It became progressively more difficult to gain valuable experience. In 1929 the group with 1 or 2 years experience averaged $181, while the entrance group averaged $149. In 1932 the corresponding averages were about $135 and $111. In 1934 they were about $120 and $110. Engineering Earnings Without Regard to Kind of Engineering Employment in 1929, 1932, and 1934 Earnings of all engineers combined, without regard to age.— In 1929, the range in monthly engineering earnings of professional engineers was very great. Some 79 engineers reported earnings of less than $60 per month, while 168 earned more than $1,880 a month. The median monthly earnings of the 28,511 reporters engaged in engineer ing was $289. One-quarter earned more than $415, while only 10 percent had earnings greater than $609 a month. Between 1929 and 1934 there were progressive declines in monthly engineering earnings. While the sharpest absolute decreases occurred at the higher levels of earnings, the greatest percentage decreases took place at the lower earnings levels. Almost two-thirds of the decreases occurred between 1929 and 1932. Monthly earnings by professional class, without regard to age.— Com parison of earnings by professional class, without regard to age and the consequent effect of the varying age distributions, shows that in 1929 the upper 10 percent of mining and metallurgical engineers (highest at this level) reported earnings of not less than $792 per month as against $515 a month for civil engineers, who were lowest at this level. Next to mining and metallurgical engineers came chemi cal and ceramic engineers, followed by mechanical and industrial, and electrical engineers. For the upper 25 percent of the reporting engineers the order of the professional classes was the same, monthly engineering earnings ranging from not less than $372 for civil engineers to not less than $503 a month for mining and metallurgical engineers. A t the middle and lower earnings levels, the differences in earning capacities of the 5 professional classes were less marked, although, in each instance, mining and metallurgical engineers and electrical engineers occupied the upper and lower extremes, respectively. In 1932 and 1934 the order of the professional classes at the two higher earnings levels was essentially the same as that noted for 1929. A t the three lower earnings levels shifts occurred in this order in 1929 and there were further shifts in 1932 and 1934. Earnings related to age, all engineers combined.— On an age basis the 1929 monthly compensation for engineering services of the lowest tenth of reporting engineers was more than twice as high for those in the age group 48 to 55 as for those of 23 years. At the upper 10percent earnings level, maximum earnings of $1,050 a month were SUMMARY 15 reached in the sixties. Similarly, at the average and at the upper and lower quarters earnings levels, age 60 was the turning point. For men of identical ages in 1929, 1932, and 1934 the data reveal that the greatest impact of the depression, as far as engineering earnings were concerned, fell upon men with from 2 to 5 years7 experience. Earnings and education.— Although the 1929 data on engineering earnings reveal an advantage in favor of men who have engineering degrees, this advantage was less clearly defined than was the case with earned annual incomes. However, the extra years of experience which the “ other77 or nongraduate engineers had while the graduates were in school permitted of their obtaining higher earnings than gradu ates only up to a point corresponding to 5 years after graduation. Even at 2 years after graduation the differentials in earnings between the two groups were slight. Similarly, at 4 years after graduation, while at the median level graduate earnings ranged from $225 for first-degree electrical engineers to $250 a month for first-degree chemical and ceramic engineers, among the “ other77 or nongraduate engineers they ranged from $200 for engineers with secondary-school education to $229 a month for mechanical and industrial engineers with incomplete college courses. W ith advancing age there was a considerable advantage in engi neering earnings in favor of the graduates. This was an average advantage, however, for there was a distinct variation in the earning capacities among both graduates and “ other77 or nongraduate engi neers. The monthly engineering earnings of graduates continued to increase several years beyond the point of maximum earnings of “ other77 or nongraduate engineers. The earnings of the latter either remained stable or declined after 53 years of age. Earnings by kind oj engineering employment.— W ith due allowance for varying proportions of experienced engineers in the several pro fessional classes, it appears that in 1929, and among those engineers in the employ of private firms, mining and metallurgical engineering paid the highest rates for engineering services, followed by chemical and ceramic engineering, mechanical and industrial engineering, civil engineering, and electrical engineering. In the order as stated, the median monthly engineering earnings reported for 1929 were $338, $341, $314, $300, and $276. These relationships held at all levels of earnings with only one significant exception. From 1929 to 1934 there were large decreases in the rates of pay at all earnings levels among engineers in the employ of private firms. In both 1929 and 1934, there was a marked spread in the earnings in private firm employment of each professional group. Thus, while the earnings of the upper 10 percent of reporting civil engineers were 106 percent greater than the median earnings of the group, the 16 E M P LO YM E N T, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 - 3 4 corresponding difference for mining and metallurgical engineers was 135 percent. For the other three professional classes, the differences were: 111 percent for electrical engineers, 117 percent for mechanical and industrial engineers, and 119 percent for chemical and ceramic engineers. In 1929 there was a considerable range in earnings opportunities among the various kinds of engineering employment. Thus, while one-half of the engineers in the employ of State and county govern ments earned not less than $236 a month, the lowest at this earnings level, the highest median monthly earnings of $439 were reported by independent consultants. Intermediate between these median monthly earnings lay teaching ($310), private-firm employment ($301), municipal government and other public authorities ($272), and Fed eral Government ($264). The gradation of earnings in 1929 at the two lower earnings levels was the same as that noted for the median. But at the two higher earnings levels private-firm employment exceeded teaching, being second in order after independent consultants, while the earnings of all three public engineering employments were lower in each instance than those of engineers engaged in teaching. Over the period 1929-34 there was an especially marked decline in the earnings of independent consultants as compared with the decline in rates for the other kinds of employment. These changes are to be regarded as in large part a measure of underemployment. In the other kinds of employment, the largest decline (27 percent) in average rates paid was in private-firm employment. The smallest decline (14 percent) was in teaching. Average compensation by the Federal Government for engineering services declined 23 percent, as against 19 and 17 percent, respectively, for State and county govern ments, and municipal and other public authorities. In private firm employment, in teaching and among engineers em ployed b y municipal and other public authorities, earnings of the upper 10 and 25 percent declined less than the average; earnings of the lower 10 and 25 percent, somewhat more than the average. In Fed eral Government employment, the declines at all but the highest level of earnings were similar to the decline of the average rate. Separate analysis of the earnings data for older engineers and younger engineers emphasizes the extent to which earnings in 1934 were diluted by the influx of younger engineers. Thus, while consid eration of each group of engineers as a whole revealed a greater decline in earnings at the lower levels than at the higher, for the older engi neers the four other earnings levels sank in almost exactly the same ratio as the average in the case of private-firm employment, teaching, Federal Government, and State government employment. SUMM ARY 17 Earnings by field of engineering activity.— In general it may be said that at all earnings levels, and among engineers with 5 years or more of experience, State and county employment is at lower rates than Federal or municipal. For civil engineers, electrical engi neers, and mechanical engineers public employment averaged less than any of the fields of private employment, except construction. For example, while civil engineers averaged $234 per month in municipal employment and $232 per month in the private construc tion industry, in the other fields of private employment the range in monthly earnings was from $248 to $270. B y contrast, chemical and ceramic engineers with the Federal Government averaged $300 per month in 1934 as against $296 in private manufacturing industries. Within the various fields of private employment, average rates in the construction industry are low. Furthermore, in the five fields of private engineering activity and in personal service, chemical and ceramic engineers and mining and metallurgical engineers appear to have a distinct advantage in earnings, whereas among the three other professional classes the differences in the median monthly earnings reported were not very great. There was less spread in the earnings reported for public employ ment than those received by engineers in the other fields of engineering activity. For example, while the median earnings of civil engineers in Federal employment were $221 a month, at the upper 10-percent earnings level the earnings received were $375 a month. B y contrast, civil engineers in manufacturing received median monthly earnings of $248 a month and $488 a month at the upper 10-percent level. Among engineers born in the years 1907-9 and 1910-14, the monthly earnings received for public construction work were slightly greater than those received for private construction work. And except for private construction, there was very little difference in the earnings reported by the two groups of younger engineers engaged in public construction and those received in the other fields of engineering activity. Earnings by type of engineering work.— For engineers with 5 years of experience or more, those engaged in general administration and management were without any important exception the best-paid group. On the average, engineers engaged in general administration make from half again to twice as much as those engaged in design, construction, or operation. For example, mechanical engineers en gaged in design and research averaged $228 while those in general administration and management averaged $324 per month. Consulting, teaching, and sales in all instances average less than administration and generally average more than design, construction, and operation. 18 E M P LO YM E N T, EARNINGS---- ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 - 3 4 In all professional classes, except electrical engineering, higher rates were paid in design and research and in operation than in construction. For example, while civil engineers engaged in construction reported median monthly earnings of $211, members of this same professional class engaged in design and research and operation received, respec tively, $218 and $226 a month. Mining engineers averaged nearly the same in design and research as in operation. But in the case of both chemical and ceramic en gineers and electrical engineers, those engaged in design and research averaged more than those engaged in operation, and at the higher levels of earnings the differences between them were even more marked. Within each type of work, construction excepted, chemical and ceramic engineers, and mining and metallurgical engineers had the advantage. For example, the former professional class reported median monthly earnings of $285 for design and research; the latter received $262 a month. The range in monthly earnings for the three other professional classes was from $218 to $228. Due to the variations in spread, these differences in earnings became accentuated at the two higher earnings levels. For example, while mining and metallurgical engineers reported median monthly earnings of $393 for general administration and management, one-quarter received not less than $618 a month and one-tenth not less than $1,028 a month. The corresponding figures for civil engineers en gaged in the same type of work were $312, $426, and $587 a month. Although the spread in earnings for consulting was less than that noted for general administration and management, it was relatively greater than that which occurred in any of the other types of work. The smallest spread occurred in the earnings reported for construction. The earnings reported by the two groups of younger engineers show that in all types of engineering work younger engineers start with practically the same level of earnings. Monthly earnings by geographical division.— In 1929, there were persistent differences in the average rates of pay of three types of engineering. Thus, graduate mechanical engineers in 1929 averaged higher than electrical or civil engineers in all geographical divisions, except the District of Columbia. In all regions, except New England, graduate electrical engineers earned less than graduate civil engineers. Within the regions the spreads in earnings differ substantially. The differences in rates as between the various regions are not con sistent from one group to the next, nor from one year to another. The earnings of engineers in the Middle Atlantic States and the District of Columbia appear in general to be slightly above those in New England and the East North Central States. This is especially the case among civil engineers. These four regions are generally above SUMMARY 19 the Pacific States and the West South Central States, both of which rank fairly high as regards earnings of civil engineers. Electrical engineers are as high in the Pacific States as in the East North Central. In 1934, especially, mechanical engineers in the West South Central States ranked as high as electrical engineers as regards average earnings. In general, the lowest average rates were reported from the Mountain States and the West North Central, though the differences between the averages in these regions and the South Atlantic and East South Central States are not consistent. Monthly earnings by size of city.— In 1929, there was an extreme range in average earnings among the cities with a population of 400.000 or more from about $280 per month for Los Angeles and Minneapolis and St. Paul to $351 in Pittsburgh. None of the 18 cities of 400,000 or more in 1934, and only two in 1929, had average earnings materially lower than the average in the smaller cities. By and large, the cities of 400,000 or over appear to pay $200 to $250 more per year in average earnings than cities of 50,000 to 400,000. These in turn average $100 more than cities of 10,000 to 50,000; and these, perhaps $200 more per year than was paid in communities of less than 10,000. A situation similar to that noted for average earnings reported also occurred at the two lower earnings levels. The concentration of opportunities for higher earnings in the larger cities is fairly well defined at the upper 25-percent level and more so at the upper 10-percent earnings level. In only three of the cities with 400,000 population or more did the upper 10 percent of the engineers earn less than was earned at this level ($602) in cities of 100,000 to 400,000. In cities with less than 10.000 population, the upper 10 percent earned $503 or more in 1929. Similar differences obtained in 1934. Among the younger engineers, there was almost no variation in their earnings by size of city. Over the period 1929-34, the earnings at all income levels and for all cities declined. The smallest declines in average earnings were re ported for the cities of San Francisco (15 percent) and Washington, D. C. (14 percent). But for the remaining cities the decreases ranged from 20 percent in the case of Los Angeles to as high as 31 percent for the city of Cincinnati. Chapter I Scope and Method Prior to 1929 recessions in business activity in the United States were known to affect business profits and wage-earner employment. The professional worker was not immune to loss of employment and earnings, but his problems were apparently entirely different from those of the wage earner. The inconveniences of professional workers arising from reductions in salaries or unemployment appear to have been of short duration. These conditions, however, did not obtain in the depression years 1930 to 1934, inclusive. Early in 1930 unemployment became a national problem and struck simultaneously nonprofessional and professional workers. As the de pression lengthened in time and increased in intensity, its effects upon professional engineers became evident. But professional work ers concerned with this problem were confronted with the lack of reliable data that could have been used as a basis on which to formu late plans to bring about an amelioration in the situation. Conse quently, at the request of American Engineering Council, toward the end of 1934, the Bureau of Labor Statistics undertook a survey of the engineering profession in cooperation with a committee representative of all branches of professional engineering activity.1 Purpose and Collection of Data The primary purpose of this survey was to determine the extent of unemployment among professional engineers in the period 1930-34. It was also desired to determine what kind of professional employ ment gave engineers the greatest protection against unemployment, where they found substitute employment, and their earnings between January 1, 1929, and December 31, 1934. The data were obtained through the medium of a mail question naire 2 requesting information from professional engineers for the three periods ending December 31, 1929, 1932, and 1934. The questions covered present residence; age; marital status and number of dependents;3 educational background; employment status; unem ployment and relief; earned annual income; rates of monthly com pensation from engineering work; membership in engineering societies;3 1 The Bureau’s studies have dealt almost entirely with wage-earning groups. The only other professional group recently studied were editorial employees of newspapers. For data on the results of that survey, see M onthly Labor Review, M ay 1935, p. 1137 (also printed as B. L. S. Serial No. R. 239.). 2 See appendix A, p. 214, for facsimile of questionnaire used in the survey. 3 N o analysis was made of this information. 20 SCOPE AN© METHOD 21 method of obtaining employment, together with information on contract and pension privileges; patent rights; civil-service status; field of engineering activity and type of work within that field; and professional class. A copy of this questionnaire was sent to each of 173,151 professional engineers. The mailing list for the questionnaire was compiled for the Bureau through the cooperation of National, State, and local engineering so cieties. They also secured additional names from 32 State boards of engineering examiners, and the deans of 156 engineering schools for graduates in the classes of 1930-34. A t the time the request for names was issued there were known to be in existence 80 National, 42 State, and 197 local engineering societies, and of these, respectively, 73, 39, and 121 submitted names from their past and present membership rosters. The cooperating bodies embraced every phase of professional engineering activity. The original mailing list, from which duplica tions were eliminated, is the most inclusive that could be devised for the profession. As regards engineers who entered the profession in 1929 or earlier, it is representative, except as membership in an engi neering society may introduce a selective bias. This bias was mini mized by drawing upon the roster of past membership so that the selec tive effect of unemployment during the depression does not affect the list. As regards those who prepared to enter the profession since 1929, it is virtually all-inclusive of graduates from engineering colleges and universities. There may be some under-representation of engi neers drawn from the ranks or from noncollegiate technical schools in recent years. While this possibility exists, the evidence leads to the belief that it is not an important source of error. The Number of Returns Of the 173,151 questionnaires sent out 58,388, or 33.7 percent, were returned with information; 5,883, or 3.4 percent, were returned as “ not found.” The net number of usable returns was 52,589, or 30.4 percent of the number of persons on the original mailing list. No follow-up method was used. The extensive response was due largely to the publicity given to the survey by the cooperating bodies through their official publications and attests the interest that professional engineers felt in the problems of their profession. The returns covered every State and the District of Columbia, and ranged in number from 101 in Nevada to 7,659 in New York. (Table 1.) In view of the small number of returns from individual States— in only 13 cases were more than 1,000 reports received from a single State, while in 24 States less than 500 were received— the States were grouped according to the census geographical divisions, with the single exception that the District of Columbia was segregated from the 2 8 5 2 0 8 ° — 4 1 ------- 3 22 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 192 9 -3 4 South Atlantic region and presented separately. This segregation was deemed advisable in that the m ajority of engineers reporting from the District of Columbia were in the employ of the Federal Government. On this regional basis, the returns from all engineers in the nine professional classes combined ranged from 948 in the District of Columbia to 14,977 in the Middle Atlantic region. T a b l e 1 .— Distribution at end of 1984 of 'professional geographical division and State Number reporting Geographical division and State United States___ _____ _ __________ _ reporting , by Number reporting Geographical division and State New England . . _________________ Connecticut Maine___ . . . . ________ Massachusetts . __________ ___ __ _ New Hampshire Rhode Island.. __________ Vermont West North Central. _ _ ___ _ Iowa _ __________ _ ______ _ Kansas... ._ .... _______________ Minnesota . . . __ ___________ _ M issouri__ . _ . . . Nebraska ___ _ _ _ _ _ _ North Dakota.. _ _ . . . South Dakota . . . _ . . . . _ _ Pacific. _ _. California _ . Oregon . . . Washington ... East North Central . . . _ . . . Illinois . Indiana __ . ______________ _ Michigan_______ _ __ . . . ___ Ohio__________ _ . . . Wisconsin . _ _ Middle Atlantic _ _ _ New Jersey.. _____ _ _____ New York . ________ Pennsylvania _______ _________ 52, 589 District of Columbia. _________ ____ East South Central. __ . _____ Alabama ___ ____________ Kentucky . .. _______ ________ Mississippi _ _______ _ _ _ _ Tennessee. _____________ _____ Mountain __ _ _ ____________ Arizona. . ________ ___________ Colorado._ ____________________ Idaho . . _____ . Montana _______ ___ _____ _ Nevada ________ _______ New Mexico _ ______________ Utah . . . ____ ________ Wyoming ________ __ _ West South Central _____ _______ __ Arkansas. _ _______________ Louisiana. ________ _____ _____ _ ____ _ Oklahoma Texas.. _______ _______ _____ South Atlantic. ______________ ____ _ D elaware__ . . . ______ ____ _____ Florida___ . . . . ......... .............. Georgia. _____ __ ___________ Maryland _ __________________ North Carolina _____________ . South Carolina_______________ Virginia___ . _______________ . . . West Virginia____________________ engineers 948 1, 544 343 402 268 531 2, 434 369 908 197 291 101 156 254 158 2,486 171 481 509 1, 325 3,920 195 626 592 628 421 295 678 485 4,674 934 322 2, 717 227 313 161 4,978 902 740 1,265 1, 224 398 172 277 5,651 4,389 427 835 10,977 3,689 1, 316 1,951 2,999 1,022 14, 977 3, 323 7,659 3,995 . T a b l e 2 — Geographical distribution at end of 1934 of the 9 major professional classes of engineers Geographical division Professional class i Total All classes_____ ____ 52, 589 Agricultural_______ Architectural____ _ Ceramic___________ Chemical __ _ _ 397~ 538 388 3, 512 Civil_________ ____ 19, 891 Electrical_____ ____ 11, 443 Industrial_________ 1,007 Mechanical_______ 13, 226 Mining and metal lurgical__________ 2,187 Dis West South trict East Moun South of Co South At tain Cen lantic Cen lum tral tral bia 948 9~ 10 3 37 1, 544 5T 8 11 107 2,434 20~ 20 2 108 2,486 36~ 22 5 213 3, 920 38~ 29 22 291 West East M id New North Pacif North dle Eng Cen ic Cen At land tral tral lantic 4,674 4,978 ffi 44 10 369 123 107 38 296 38 30 26 179 71 139 169 878 31 129 102 1,034 5,651 10,977 14,977 450 195 6 197 707 286 19 320 1,191 385 14 285 1,082 489 18 548 1,619 856 76 898 1,631 1,080 129 1,313 2,295 991 56 884 3,099 920 44 986 3, 294 2,412 270 3,343 4, 523 3, 829 375 4,452 41 65 409 73 91 88 188 329 401 502 i From the Office of Education returns it was found that, while the number of professional classes was large (primarily due to specialization), nearly 90 percent of all engineering graduates in any one year were confined to the 9 professional classes of agricultural, architectural, ceramic, chemical, civil, electrical, in dustrial, mechanical, and mining and metallurgical engineering. The number of engineers reporting other professional classes were so small that special analyses were not warranted. These were combined with one or other of the major professional classes to which they were most closely allied. These particular data are presented in appendix B, p. 218 table 1. SCOPE AND METHOD' 23 On a national basis the range in the returns of each of the 9 pro fessional classes was from 388 for ceramic engineers to 19,891 for civil engineers (Table 2). It was not feasible consistently to analyze separately the smaller groups: Agricultural, architectural, ceramic, and industrial engineers. The first two are therefore at times merged with civil engineers, the third with chemical, and the last with mechanical engineers. Comparison With Previous Studies The gross number of returns, namely, 52,589, makes this survey unique in size and comprehensiveness. W ith regard to size, three previous major studies can be cited: (1) The one made in 1924 by the Society for the Promotion of Engineering Education 4 of engineering graduates and nongraduating former students, which dealt with data collected from 7,000 individuals; (2) the American Society of Mechani cal Engineers’ study 5 of 1930, which was based on returns from ap proximately 8,000 engineers; and (3) the American Society of Civil Engineers’ study 6 of 1934, which included 16,000 engineers. The present study is the first one in which it has been possible to collect sufficient detail to compare the status of engineers in the several branches of professional engineering activity under approximately the same conditions on a Nation-wide basis. The Components of the Sample Although the returns covered members of nine major professional classes of engineers, cognizance must also be taken of two other factors which vitally affect the whole of the ensuing analysis: (1) Differences in educational background, and (2) differences in the length of time that the reporting engineers had been in the profession. Classifica tions by education and by age or years since graduation have been followed for each professional class. In regard to differences in educational background, the reporting engineers have been grouped in three classes to cover graduate engi neers, while three others embrace those engineers who did not report graduation after four years’ attendance at a recognized university or college. M ore specifically, the three types of graduate education are: (1) Postgraduate, (2) nonengineering graduates,7 and (3) first-degree 4 Bulletin No. 3, Report of the Investigation of Engineering Education, Engineering Education, vol. I, Society for the Promotion of Engineering Education, University of Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, Pa. Lancaster Press, Inc., Lancaster, Pa., 1930. 8 1930 Earnings of Mechanical Engineers, Mechanical Engineering, September and November 1930 and December 1931. American Society of Mechanical Engineers, New York, N. Y. 6 Revised Report on Salaries of Civil Engineers, Civil Engineering, vol. 4, No. 8, pp. 423-425. August 1934. American Society of Civil Engineers, New York, N. Y. 7 Primarily, graduates with liberal arts degrees and a major in some field closely allied to engineering, such as mathematics, physics, or chemistry, and who reported they were actually engaged in engineering work for one of the three periods. 24 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS----ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 192 9 -3 4 engineering graduates. The engineers classified in the three other types of education have been collectively designated as “ other” 8 engineers and cover men who reported (1) an incomplete college engi neering course, (2) noncollegiate technical school education, and (3) secondary-school education only.9 Within each type of education, the differences in experience spans comprise two broad groupings of the reporting engineers. First, those who reported for the year 1929 and were, therefore, professionally active prior to 1930; and, second, those engineers who had entered the profession in one of the years 1930-1934, inclusive, and who could not have reported for the year 1929. For purposes of this survey, the former group are referred to throughout the discussion as “ older” engineers, while the latter are designated as “ younger” engineers. The gross returns received from the 52,589 professional engineers comprise 33,841 who reported they were professionally active prior to 1930, and 18,748 who entered the profession in the period 1930-34. A t this point it is pertinent to note that, in the absence of a satis factory definition of the term “ professional engineer,” this report is being based primarily on one criterion of professional engineering status, namely membership in an engineering society. In the case of the older engineers, this criterion may be applied without qualifica tion. But even as regards the younger engineers, it also has consider able merit. Their names, it will be recalled, were furnished by the deans of practically every engineering school in the country. But inquiry revealed that a substantial number of these names were also furnished by engineering societies. This is explained by the fact that even in the sophomore year many engineering students obtain student memberships in one or another of the engineering socie ties. In the junior and senior years there is a marked increase in the number of such candidates. Adequacy of Returns Received from Engineers Entering the Profession Prior to 1930 T o check the returns received from those engineers who reported they were professionally active prior to 1930, comparisons of these figures were made with those on technical engineers as contained in the Fifteenth Census, volumes IV and V, Population, U. S., 1930 census. 8 In the text, the term “ other” engineers is used interchangeably with nongraduate engineers. Whenever possible, the former is preferred because engineers who attended noncollegiate technical schools received diplomas after as many as 3 years of study. Strictly speaking, therefore, they are graduates. 9 Throughout this report, age and years after graduation are used interchangeably. Of course, in the case of nongraduates (i. e., “ other” engineers) age only applies. The relationship between these two factors can readily be derived from the fact that the median age of graduation of new entrants to the profession was found to be 23 years. SCOPE AND METHOD 25 The appropriateness of the census data as a basis for comparison will be seen to be warranted in the discussion which deals with the growth of the profession. A t this time, it needs merely to be noted that these data do not permit of making separate analyses for the reporting graduates and “ other,” or nongraduate engineers. In order to insure that the returns from the older engineers ade quately represented the engineering profession throughout the whole country, consideration was first given to the reports received from each of the 10 geographical divisions. For purposes of comparison with the 1930 census data, it was necessary to make certain groupings of the nine professional classes tabulated. These groupings comprise (1) chemical, mining, and metallurgical engineers, (2) civil engineers and surveyors and architectural engineers, (3) electrical engineers, and (4) mechanical, agricultural, ceramic, and industrial engineers and all other engineers not elsewhere classified. The numbers of engineers so reporting in the survey without regard to age and the corresponding figures on technical engineers in the 1930 census are presented in table 3. Returns from the separate groupings of professional classes do show a considerable variation. Of the chemical engineers group active prior to 1930, apparently 24.7 percent reported in 1935. Reports from mechanical engineers and all others embraced 17.7 percent; of the civil engineers, 14.4 percent; and of the electrical engineers, 11.5 percent reported. Similar differences between the professional classes were found in the separate regions, though, as was to be expected when the national sample was broken down, differences in the propor tions of returns became more accentuated when considered on a regional basis. It should also be noted that in every district except the Pacific and Mountain States a larger proportion of chemical and mining and metallurgical engineers reported than in any other class. Second in order of frequency of reporting were mechanical and other engineers in every district. Civil engineers were third, except in the South Atlantic and the Pacific States. The causes of these variations cannot be determined. Their effect, however, should be noted. For example, in connection with an analy sis of earnings for all engineers without regard to professional class, the presence of a relatively large proportion of chemical engineers will raise the average somewhat above its true level. N o attempt has been made to apply weighting factors for these differences in returns, because the differences in the end products are not great enough to necessitate it. But for this reason the analyses for the separate pro fessional classes are probably more accurate than the analysis of all engineering. As regards the analysis of the separate professional classes, it may be noted that at least one-ninth of all engineers was included even in the class with the smallest coverage, a large enough 26 T a b l e 3 .— Numbers of older 1 professional engineers reporting in sample and in 1980 census ,2 by geographical division Geographical division All professional classes Chemical, min ing, and metallurgical Civil engineers and surveyors Electrical Mechanical and all others 3 All profes sional classes Chem ical, mining, and metal lurgical Civil engi neers and sur veyors Elec trical Mechan ical and all others Sample Census Sample Census Sample Census Sample Census Sample Census 33,841 226,136 2,961 11,966 14,651 102,057 6,623 57, 775 9,606 54,338 15.0 24.7 14.4 11.5 17.7 District of Columbia___. . . ____ _ East South Central. __________ Mountain . .. . . . ____ West South Central... . . . _____ South Atlantic.._ .. . . . . . . ____ 713 889 1, 590 1, 369 2,584 1,892 7, 362 7, 355 13,078 15,924 60 91 337 125 197 87 330 1,591 587 735 373 430 878 681 1,242 1,058 4, 509 3, 553 8, 212 9,080 123 151 189 216 474 373 1, 535 1, 342 2,505 3,440 157 217 186 347 671 374 988 869 1, 774 2, 669 37.7 12.1 21.6 10.5 16.2 69.0 27.6 21.2 21.3 26.8 35.3 9.5 24.7 8.3 13.8 33.0 9.8 14.1 8.6 13.8 42.0 22.0 21.4 19.6 25.1 New England . . . . . ______ West North Central. _ __________ Pacific_________________________ East North Central_____________ Middle Atlantic. ______________ 2,693 2, 940 4,343 6, 630 10,090 16, 370 15,401 27,138 51, 523 70,093 175 205 340 556 875 474 621 2,367 1,979 3,195 1,105 1, 622 2,628 2,312 3,380 6,922 8,918 14, 231 19,059 26,485 559 505 594 1,366 2,446 4,156 3, 387 5,589 13, 263 22,185 854 608 781 2,396 3, 389 4,818 2,445 4,951 17, 222 18. 228 16.5 19.1 16.0 12.9 14.4 36.9 33.0 14.4 28.1 27.4 16.0 18.1 18.5 12.1 12.8 13.5 14.9 10.6 10.3 11.0 17.7 24.9 15.8 13.9 18.6 Total for United States. _ . 1 Includes those engineers who reported they were professionally active prior to 1930. 2 Data on technical engineers in the Fifteenth Census, vols. IV and V, Population, United States, 1930 Census. 3 Agricultural, ceramic, and industrial engineers and all other engineers not elsewhere classified. EM P L O Y M E N T , EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 - 3 4 Percentage number reporting in sample formed of 1930 census figures Gross numbers reporting SCOPE AND METHOD 27 coverage to warrant belief that it may be fully representative of the professional class. As regards all professional classes combined there were returns from 15.0 percent of the engineers reported by the 1930 Census. These were well distributed regionally. Returns from four regions fell within the range of 14.4 percent and 16.5 percent. The lowest percentage of returns was 10.5 percent for the West South Central. The Mountain States averaged 21.6 percent. The District of Colum bia, with 37.7 percent as many returns for older engineers in 1935 as in the census of 1930, is an obvious exception. None of these regional differences warrant efforts at reweighting the sample covered by the survey. In point of fact, they are the best quantitative index available of the shifts in economic opportunity for engineers from 1930 to 1935. For example, the present study shows an increase of 88.1 percent in Federal Government employment from the end of 1929 to the end of 1934 among older engineers, thus con firming the evidence of table 3, which at first glance shows an appar ently disproportionate large number of returns from the District of Columbia. The method adopted to check the age composition of the returns from the older engineers was as follow s: The number reporting in the sample was tabulated with regard to age in 1930 by intervals corre sponding to those used in the census of 1930. The number in each age interval was calculated as a percentage of the grand total report ing age and compared with a series of similar computations derived from the 1930 census data. This was done for all engineers classified in the four groupings of professional class within each geographical division. In this connection, it should be noted that age was reported by 33,494 of the 33,841 older engineers, that is, by all but 1.0 percent. In the census, of the 226,136 technical engineers, age was reported by all but 180. The data on age are, therefore, comprehensively enough reported in both cases to permit close analysis. The sample of returns appears to be fully representative of each age group. Because of the particular incidence of death and retire ment upon the older engineers, it follows as a matter of course that it was impossible in 1935 to secure returns as of 1930 representing each age group in 1930 in the true proportions which had existed in that year. In the reporting sample, 5.7 percent of the engineers were 55 or older in 1930, whereas at the time of the census 9.7 percent of all engineers enumerated were 55 or more. Similarly, in the age groups 45 to 54 years the sample shows 16.7 percent and the census 17.4. The widening gap of returns with advancing age is precisely what should be expected. Conversely, the sample taken in 1935 produced a larger percentage of engineers who were 20 to 44 years old in 1930 28 E M P LO YM E N T, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 - 3 4 CH ART I. DISTRIBUTION CURVES OF ALL OLDER PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS REPORTING AGE IN 1935 SURVEY AND IN 1930 CENSUS ALL PROFESSIONAL CLASSES COMBINED PERCENT 60 - 50 40 30 20 10 SAMPLE: 4,004 11,909 10,049 274 CENSUS: 93,273 77,21$ 92,390 4.990 33,494 223,936 U.S. BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS SCOPE AND METHOD 29 than did the census. The parallelism of the two curves in chart 1 and the reasonableness and consistency of the discrepancies leads to the conclusion that the whole sample is reasonably representative in 1934 of the age distribution of engineers who entered the profession before 1930. It is in the nature of retrospective surveys that the data for 1929 slightly underestimate the number of mature engineers in the profession at that time. Approximate allowance for survival to 1935 may be made from cen sus estimates of the number of males in 1935 by 5-year intervals. They may be compared with corresponding groups in 1930 to compute survival rates. These have been applied to engineers 25-34, 35-44, and 45-54 without developing any evidence of real differences in the ratios reporting. Above 55 years of age, to support the belief that the tendency to report was uniform at all ages, it is necessary to assume that one-quarter of the engineers 55-64 in 1930 had retired by 1935 when they would have been 60-69, and that about one-half of those 65 or more in 1930 had retired. It is further necessary to assume that those who retired did not, in general, respond to a questionnaire ad dressed primarily to employed or unemployed engineers. These as sumptions are at least sufficiently reasonable so that it is unnecessary to reweight the relatively small number of reports involved for the purpose of calculating averages for the profession as a whole. A t worst, such underreporting as may possibly occur would only affect upper decile and quartile incomes. The order of such influence is indicated by the following com parison: Average annual income for older engineers only in 1934 was $2,670, without weighting the sample for different ages. If we increase the sample of those who were 50—64 in 1930 by one-third, and double the sample of those 65 or more, the average would be $2,699. However, the upper decile for the un weighted sample (i. e., the limit above which 10 percent of the earnings are found) is $5,679, and would be $5,827 if the sample were weighted as indicated. In the chapters which follow, each age group is sepa rately analyzed. This conclusion as to the representativeness of the data as regards the age distribution of reporting engineers is further supported when the data are broken down by professional classes and by regions. Charts 2 and 2a present a comparison on a national basis of the age distributions in 1930 of the engineers reporting in 1934 and in the census for four groups of professional classes. Each distribution shows the general characteristics described above, with evidence of under-reporting by civil engineers and surveyors 20 to 34 and by chemical engineers above 35. The curves may be interpreted to indi cate a relative over-representation in the sample in the case of me chanical engineers of those who were 25-34, and in the case of civil 30 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS----ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 -3 4 CHART 2 DISTRIBUTION CURVES OF ALL OLDER PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS REPORTING AGE IN 1935 SURVEY AND IN 1930 CENSUS BY PROFESSIONAL CLASS rvuntocrr n c r u m S A M P L E ; 337 3.937 CENSUS: 937 in; 98/ 903 530 ISO 34 0 3.933 3,093 3,397 1,143 468 79 ELECTRICAL ENGINEERS yuMac.tr /rerununo in: S A M P LE : 1,074 3,789 1,719 795 7,339 15,140 6,568 6,333 CENSUS .* 33,993 37>T3° U.S. BUREAU OF LABOR 163 13 O 3,839 389 43 OLDER ENGINEERS INCLUDE ALL GRADUATESAND “OTHER" STATISTICS _____________________________________ ENGINEERS PROFESSIONALLY ACTIVE PRIOR TO 1930 31 SCOPE AND METHOD CH ART 2 0 . DISTRIBUTION CURVES OF ALL OLDER PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS REPORTING AGE IN 1935 SURVEY AND IN 1930 CENSUS BY PROFESSIONAL CLASS CIVIL ENGINEERS a SURVEYORS, AND ARCHITECTURAL ENGINEERS S A M P L E : 1,851 14,808 CENSUS: 101,971 PERCENT 13,184 4,6/3 £7,££3 8,7/£ 17,373 87£ 7,583 158 £,644 0 54/ MECHANICAL ENGINEERS AND ALL OTHER* S A M P L E : 1,04/ CENSUS: 4,598 33,343 3,493 3,840 /6,989 8, 8/8 1,576 478 69 16,985 H,0£7 4,57/ 1,188 S4* 99 U. S. BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS 0 143 *SEE TABLE 3 OLDER ENGINEERS INCLUDE ALL GRADUATESAND "OTHER" ENGINEERS PROFESSIONALLY ACTIVE PRIOR TO 1930 32 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS---- ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 -3 4 engineers of those who were 35-44. In no case are the discrepancies serious. On a regional basis, the comparison between 1930 and 1934, in view of the influence of migration, is hardly an important test of the repre sentativeness of the sample, though the data appear fairly representa tive even on this basis. The data are themselves significant as indi cating differences in the age distributions of engineers that have devel oped in the several regions since 1930.10 Adequacy of Returns Received from Younger Engineers As in the case of the older engineers reporting, the 18,748 returns re ceived from newcomers to the profession in the period 1930-34 were compiled on a professional class basis. Of this number, 195 were non engineering graduates and 286 were classified as “ other” or nongradu ate engineers. There is no means of testing the relative adequacy of these samples. Because virtually all engineering school graduates received questionnaires, whereas “ other” or nongraduate young engi neers did so only if they were members of an engineering society, the latter type may not be represented in its true proportions. The remaining 18,267 reports for graduates in engineering may be tested as regards representativeness against the total number of firstdegree engineering graduations, as compiled by the Office of Education for 1930, 1932, and 1934 in their biennial surveys for the periods 192930, 1931-32, and 1933-34.11 This comparison for 5 professional classes 12 is made in table 4 for each of the 3 years separately and against an estimate for the 5-year total. These data indicate the uniformity of the percentage of returns from this younger group of chemical, civil, electrical, and mechanical engineers. It ranges from an apparent coverage of 46.7 percent of the civil engineers in 1930 to a low of 33.3 percent coverage of electrical engineers in 1934. From year to year there is marked regularity of coverage for these four groups in combination. Returns from 1934 graduates are somewhat lower than from 1930 and 1932 graduates, but returns for 1931 and 10 It may also be noted here that there is no means of testing the representativeness of the sample of older engineers as regards income. Membership in engineering societies may tend to have eliminated some of the lower incomes. There may have been somewhat less willingness to report high incomes than there was for average incomes. But without exception, the several distributions of income follow a consistent pattern even when analyzed in detail. Thus, the same type of distribution emerges when the data are analyzed by ages, by professional classes, or even on a regional basis. This is true of both annual income and monthly engineering income. We trust that the promise of confidence that accompanied the questionnaire removed unwillingness to report income more or less uniformly at all levels. At all events 88.7 percent of the older engineers reported income for 1929, without any great variation as between one age group and another. It remains for those with a critical and intimate knowledge of the profession to evaluate the adequacy of the returns of income. n Totals for the 5 years have been computed by straight-line interpolation to estimate graduations in 1931 and 1933. 12 In the case of the survey figures for civil, electrical, and mechanical engineers, there are included engi neers with minor professional classifications. Spot checks of these data show that the majority so reporting were graduated prior to 1930. Hence, they do not unduly affect the comparisons for the younger engineers. 33 SCOPE AND METHOD 1932 graduates as compared with interpolated figures for graduations in these years show the same percentage coverage as 1930 and 1932. T a b l e 4 .— Numbers of 1 9 3 0 -8 4 engineering graduates reporting in survey and to the Office of Education Total, 1930-34 Professional class Sam ple 1930 1932 1931 1933 1934 Office Office Office Office Office Office Sam of Sam Sam of of Sam Sam of of of Edu ple Edu ple Edu Edu ple Edu ple ple Edu cation1 cation cation cation cation cation Number All classes___ 18,267 51,303 Chemical____ Civil________ Electrical-----Mechanical- _. All others___ 1,948 4,618 4, 558 3,926 3, 217 5, 562 10, 220 12, 438 10, 363 12, 720 3,284 8,947 3,629 (2) 319 924 905 605 531 818 1, 977 2,427 1, 674 2,051 327 990 959 706 647 (2) (2) (2) (2) (2) 3,866 10,374 3,872 (2) 3,616 11,420 1,148 2,100 2,480 2,085 2, 561 423 951 884 908 706 (2) (2) (2) (2) (2) 466 828 852 870 600 1, 359 2,036 2, 558 2, 454 3,013 413 925 958 837 733 Percentage All classes___ 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 (2) 100.0 100.0 100.0 (2) 100.0 Chemical-----Civil________ Electrical-----Mechanical- - _ All others 10.7 25.2 25.0 21.5 17.6 10.8 19,9 24.2 20.2 24.9 9.7 28.1 27.6 18.4 16.2 9.1 22.1 27.1 18.7 23.0 9.0 27.3 26.4 19.5 17.8 (2) (2) (2) (2) (2) 10.7 23.9 24.7 21.7 19.0 11.1 20.2 23.9 20.1 24.7 10.9 24.6 22.8 23.5 18.2 (2) (2) (2) (2) (2) 12.9 22.9 23.6 24.0 16.6 100.0 11.9 17.8 22.4 21. 5 26.4 Percentage number reporting in sample formed of Office of Education figures All classes___ 35.6 36.7 Chemical____ Civil________ Electrical____ Mechanical. All others - - _ 35.0 45.2 36.6 37.9 25.3 39.0 46.7 37.3 36.1 25.9 (2) 37.3 (2) 31.7 (2) (2) (2) (2) (2) 36.0 44 0 38.6 40.1 28.6 (2) (2) (2) (2) (2) 34.3 40.7 33.3 35.5 19.9 1The Office of Education total for 1930-34 includes estimated graduations in 1931 and 1933. which were computed by straight-line interpolation. 8Interpolated figures not shown. The miscellaneous categories of the Office of Education were covered apparently only to the extent of 25.3 percent.13 In view of the uniformity of the percentage of returns in the main professional classes, it seems probable that this difference arises from differences in the methods of classification used by the Bureau of Labor Statistics and the Office of Education. The latter apparently followed more detailed distinctions within various types of education than did the Bureau. This cannot affect the later tabulations, how ever, because in no event were there enough returns from the highly specialized branches of engineering to permit their separate analysis in this study. All branches were recombined into the first four shown in table 4, with the addition of mining and metallurgical engineers. 13 In the sample, this classification also includes 1,908 engineers who reported a professional class different from the field in which the degree was originally obtained. Due to the fact that all tabulations were con trolled on the professional class reported, it was not feasible to make a separate analysis of these 1,908 reports. 34 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 -3 4 Weighting Returns from Younger Engineers Despite the fact that the preceding analysis shows that the returns received from older and younger engineers can be accepted as repre sentative of each of the groups within the engineering profession, the disproportion in the numbers of each group reporting requires further consideration. The census of 1930 reported 226,136 technical engineers as of April 1, 1930. Assuming that engineers in each age group in 1930 experienced the same mortality as the general male population between 1930 and 1935, as indicated by estimates of population in 1935 made by the Bureau of the Census, 13,336 engineers would have died before the questionnaires for the present survey were mailed. This would leave in 1935 a total of 212,800 engineers who had been in the pro fession in 1930. Usable returns were received from 33,841, or 15.9 percent. From returns to the Office of Education of first degrees to graduates from engineering colleges and universities from 1930-34, it is esti mated that 51,303 persons prepared to enter the profession. Of these, 50,508 might have been expected to survive to 1935. Usable returns were received from 18,267, or 36.2 percent of the 50,508. It is evident from these figures that this younger group is more heavily represented in the returns than the older group. A detailed examination of the returns by the older group revealed no tendency toward more complete coverage in the lower ages of this group. Nor did 1932 or 1934 graduates differ materially from 1930 graduates in the proportion of their number who responded. These facts lead to the belief that the response of 16 percent by older engineers as against a 36 percent response by younger engineers does not indicate a true difference in the tendency of engineers of different ages to return the questionnaires. On the other hand, older engineers were canvassed only if they had been known to some engineering society, while younger engineers were approached through comprehensive lists of graduates many of whom, however, were members of engineering societies. There is every reason to believe that the questionnaire reached a larger proportion of the recent graduates than of the engineers who had been in the profession in 1929. It is reasonable to assume that in each group approximately the same proportion of those canvassed responded. This difference in the proportion covered does not affect separate analyses of the group of younger and older engineers. But where an attempt is made to describe the profession as a whole in 1932 or 1934, the picture is distorted by the overrepresentation of the younger graduate group. As there were more than 18,000 returns from such men out of a total of about 52,600, it seriously distorts the balance to SCOPE ANOD METHOD1 35 overrepresent the younger group in the ratio of about 2 to 1, or by more than 9,000. No perfect adjustment of the sample is possible. The important thing was that the number of returns from younger engineers be cut approximately in half before they were combined to present a com posite picture of the professions. Actually in this case the various tabulated totals for engineers graduating in 1930-34 were reduced by 53.1 percent before they were combined with reports for all “ other” engineers or earlier graduates. In effect this reduced the number of returns for 1934 from 52,589 to a more balanced sample of 42,787. Similarly, in 1932 the unadjusted number of reporting engineers was 45,141, as against an adjusted total of 39,277. The importance of some such adjustments may be seen from the fact that the median monthly rate of compensation in 1934 for all engineers engaged in engineering work is $210 for the adjusted sample, as against $189 had there been no adjustment for the overweighting of new entrants to the profession.14 14 There are too many unknown facts to allow the adjustment to be more than an approximation. For example, no allowance could be made for retirements from the profession. It is, however, a useful check on the processes of statistical reasoning that lead to approximate results, to arrive at an adjustment factor step by step. Such a process leads in this case to the conclusion that there had been 15.9 percent reporting by one group, 36.2 percent reporting by another, and that returns from the latter group could well be reduced by 56.0 percent to be in approximate balance with the returns by the former group. In point of fact, the adjust ment factor used in this report is 53.1 percent. This figure was derived early in the study, since which time new collateral data have become available; it is retained to avoid the confusion of unimportant changes in tables already published in the Monthly Labor Review. For example, the average of $210 which has been published would be changed to $213. Chapter II The G row th of the Engineering Profession, 1910 to 1934 The materials collected in this study deal only with the period 193034, but other data make it possible to trace the growth of the engi neering profession against the background of that which occurred from 1910 to 1930. From 1910 to 1930, the number of technical engineers as reported by the Census of Occupations increased from 88,744 to 226,136. This included an increase of some 53.3 percent for the decade 1910-19, during which time the absolute numbers increased from 88,744 to 136,080. In the decade 1920-29 the increase was 66.2 percent. This growth, however, requires further consideration. The 1930 Census of Occupations also shows a category of designers, draftsmen, and inventors, embracing 93,518 males. Some of these men were obviously eligible for membership in one or another of the engineering societies, and especially so in view of the fact that many college graduates serve an apprenticeship as draftsmen. Since persons so reporting were not included in the census returns as technical engi neers, the consequence was to lower the number reported by the census who regarded themselves as in the profession in 1930. But all persons in this census category cannot be considered exclusively as subprofessional to engineering. For example, dress designers are included as designers, while bridge designers should be excluded and classified as technical engineers. Draftsmen in an architect’s office and in the design room of a machine-tool establishment are lumped together. It is, however, worth noting that the number of male draftsmen grew so nearly at the same rate as the number of technical engineers from 1910-19 and again from 1920-29 that conclusions based on rates of growth for technical engineers alone may be accepted. The main question is whether or not the absolute growth in the number of technical engineers as shown by the census may be accepted. Representatives of the engineering profession incline to the belief that there is a tendency to overreport professional status to the census enumerator and thus to inflate the number reported to be technical engineers. There is no way to tell whether or not there 36 GROWTH OF THE ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 1 0 -3 4 37 were in fact 226,000 technical engineers in 1930, but it does appear probable that the indicated net growth of 90,000 occurred from 1919-29. The census shows 32,020 technical engineers 45 years of age or more in 1920 and 21,822 engineers 55 years of age or more in 1930. (By professional class the figures for 1920 and 1930, respectively, are: Civil engineers, 15,111 and 10,768; electrical engineers, 4,734 and 3,471; mechanical engineers, 9,894 and 5,896; and mining engi neers, 2,281 and 1,687.) It may fairly be assumed that so few people entered the profession at these ages from 1920-29 that the net loss of 10,200 at this age level may be accepted as representing death and retirement. Since there are substantial numbers of new entrants to the profession at lower ages, it is not possible to assume that the loss can be estimated for the group 20-44. years of age in 1920 by comparing it with the group 30-54 years of age in 1930. Rather some estimate must be made of the number of deaths and disability retirements that would probably have occurred out of the 103,875 technical engineers reporting in 1920 at these ages. The age distribution of the 1920 data is in intervals too wide to permit of a reasonable estimate of probable survivals. On the other hand, it may be assumed that comparatively few male workers enter the labor market for the first time after they are 25, and that the disappearance of engineers will approximate that for the total male population within the age limits under discussion. There were 10.637.000 native white male workers in 1920 who were 25-44 and 10.246.000 in 1930 who were 35-54, a decrease of 3.7 percent. A pply ing this ratio to the 103,875 engineers who were 20-44 in 1920, there would have been a disappearance through death or disability of 3,800, making a total loss in both groups of about 14,000. Allowance cannot be made for two offsetting forces: The entrance of men who were technical engineers in 1920 into nonengineering work in 1930; the recruiting of technical engineers by 1930 from among men who were in subprofessional occupations in 1930. The residual of these two opposite tendencies is probably small enough to be dis regarded without invalidating general conclusions. Essentially, therefore, gross additions of 104,000 technical engineers between 1920 and 1930 have to be accounted for—14,000 replace ments and a net growth of 90,000. This represents net additions per year of 10,400 men employed as technical engineers. The largest source of supply was the influx of college graduates. The Office of Education has reported biennially graduates with first degrees in engineering. Interpolating graduations for the other years, it may be estimated that about 75,000 degrees were awarded in the academic years 1919-20 to 1928-29. In passing, be it noted 2 8 5 2 0 8 ° — 4 1 ------- 4 38 E M P LO YM E N T, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 - 3 4 that the range in the estimate is from 74,600 to 75,600 because 1920-21 degrees may be estimated to fall either midway between those gradu ated in 1919-20 and 1921-22, or it may be assumed that the increase from 1920-21 to 1921-22 was like that in the following year. (See appendix D, p. 233, table 1.) N ot all of these men entered or remained in engineering. In the sample obtained by the Bureau, 5.6 percent of the graduates of the classes 1920-29 (who were also past or present members of engi neering societies) reported that they were in nonengineering work. They would probably have reported some other occupation to the census in 1930 than that of technical engineering. Hence, the influx of technical engineers by 1930 from college graduates was probably about 70,440. This disregards two facts— that a negligible number of these engineers died before 1930 and that some of the graduates in the later classes may still have been serving a subprofessional apprenticeship in 1930. It is safe to assume that many of these would have called themselves engineers. Moreover, professional engineering societies accept them in membership. In any event, the 70,440 graduates embrace 67.7 percent of the 104,000 engineers who apparently entered the profession from 1920-29. In other words, 32.3 percent must have included men without col lege degrees in engineering. In point of fact, the returns show that of all men reporting for this decade and who had engineering jobs in 1929, some 29 percent comprised both nonengineering graduates and “ other’ ’ or nongraduate engineers. Or if the engineering graduates comprise 71 percent of the total number entering in this decade, it is possible to account for the entrance into the profession of about 99,210 technical engineers. It is of course possible that the sample obtained by the Bureau in 1935 underestimates nongraduate engineers entering in this decade by about 3.3 percent and is probably accounted for by the fact that the younger group of nongraduate engineers are less likely to join engineering societies than graduates. A t all events the reasonableness of the census figure of growth leads to the possible inference that the absolute total as a whole is also reasonably repre sentative. From 1930-34, reports made in the present survey indicate a growth of 26.4 percent. The adjusted data presented in table 5 show that between the end of 1929 and 1934 the number of engineers in the sample increased from 33,841 to 42,787.1 From the preceding figures it appears therefore that the annual influx in absolute numbers during the two periods was quite similar. It is estimated that in the twenties there was an average gross influx 1 The indicated growth of 26.4 percent makes no allowance for active engineers in 1929 who died or retired by 1935 and did not respond to the questionnaire. GROWTH OF THE ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 1 0 -3 4 39 of about 11,300 per year.2 In 1930-34, the average as estimated from graduations reported by the Office of Education and from the sample for nongraduates 3 was about 10,300. Despite this similarity in annual influx, however, the rate of influx of technically trained engineers during the depression was slightly less than it had been in the decade of the twenties. In that decade the profession was growing at the compound rate of about 5% percent a year. This was the growth in the number practicing the profession or regarding themselves as engineers even though unemployed and classified as technical engineers in the census of 1930. In addition, slightly more than one-twentieth of those trained in college and receiving engineering degrees were going into non engineering fields of employment. If for comparison with the growth in 1930-34, this latter group be regarded as engineers, or at least as part of the gross annual addition to the supply of engineers, the number of engineers in the period 1920-29 was growing at the compound rate of about 5% percent. In the period from 1930 to 1934, the compound rate of growth was 4% percent. T a b l e 5 .— Graduates 1 and “ other” engineers 2 reporting at end of 1 92 9 , 1 93 2 , and 1934 [Figures adjusted as explained on p. 34] Percentage Number Item Total Gradu “ Other” ates 1 engineers2 Total Gradu “ Other” ates 1 engineers2 Professionally active in 1934. _____ - __ Professionally active in 1932_____________ Professionally active in 1929 ------ --------- 42, 787 39, 277 33, 841 33, 486 30,012 24, 826 9,301 9, 265 9,015 100.0 100.0 100.0 78.3 76.4 73.4 21.7 23.6 26.6 Entered profession 1933-34. ____________ Entered profession 1930-32 ____ ______ Professionally active in 1929----- ------------- 3, 510 5,436 33,841 3, 474 5,186 24,826 36 250 9,015 100.0 100.0 100.0 99.0 95.4 73.4 1.0 4.6 26.6 1 Graduate engineers include all postgraduates, nonengineering graduates, and first-degree engineering graduates. 2 ‘ ‘Other” engineers include all engineers with college course incomplete, noncollegiate technical school course, and secondary school education. The third point to be noted has regard to the marked change in the source of supply of engineers in the two periods. From 1920-29 there was an annual absorption of 10,400 engineers in engineering jobs and an average of college-degree awards of only 7,500. Further more, the engineering profession had to compete for the services of these graduates with nonengineering groups. There was room then for men with a few years of college training. In the depression years, however, these conditions did not prevail, for the colleges were supplying as many engineers with degrees as 2 The basis of estimation accounts for an annual addition of 10,400 engineering jobs. Also counted in the text are about 900 or 1,000 college graduates each year who went into nonengineering work. 3 Includes nonengineering graduates and “ other” or nongraduate engineers reporting. 40 E M P LO YM E N T, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 - 3 4 were supplied in the twenties from all sources. The number of first degrees awarded rose sharply, averaging more than 10,200 and reach ing 11,421 in 1933-34. On the other hand, only 481 of the 18,748 reporting engineers entering the profession from 1930-34 did not have college degrees in engineering. Yet, it has been noted that the main source of supply of nongraduates in the twenties was from among those with an incomplete college course. This sharp contrast makes permissible the statement that the extremely small number of such men reporting in the depression period does not represent underreporting. It may well reflect a profession effectively closed to all but men with engineering degrees, and more especially so when such a supply was more than adequate to meet current demand.4 This raising of educational standards appears to be definitely related to the change in the relationship of the demand for profes sional services to the supply of trained engineers. What this change meant, and also what occurred in the growth in numbers of professional engineers in terms of employment and unemployment, is developed in the following chapters. 4 In this regard, analysis of the figures of the Office of Education shows that during the decade of the twenties slightly less than half of the enrollees were graduating. But while enrollment decreased from 74,000 in 1929-30 to 62,601 in 1933-34, degrees awarded increased from 8,947 to 11,421 (appendix D, p. 233, table 1). It is most unlikely that engineering schools as a whole ever “ flunked out” half of the total enrollment (not merely the freshman class; or seriously lowered standards during the depression. It seems probable that “ college course incomplete” as the educational background of an engineer meant, in a great number of cases, a man who had found a job after a year or so of college work. If educational requirements were raised by employers during the depression, he stayed on in school if he could. Chapter III Educational Qualifications of Professional Engineers Educational Requirements and Professional Engineering Status If membership in an engineering society be accepted as a measure of professional status, the reports furnished by engineers in this survey clearly indicate that formal engineering education was not the sole method of obtaining such a status. Thus, the data in table 6 show that some 69.4 percent of the 42,683 engineers reporting for 1934 specified that they had first degrees in engineering, while 5.8 percent also reported postgraduate work. Another 2.8 percent gradu ated from liberal arts colleges usually with a major in mathematics, physics, or chemistry. In later analyses these three groups are discussed together. But some 21.8 percent of the engineers had T a b l e 6 .— Distribution at end of 1934 of engineers in the 9 professional classes reporting , in by type of education [Figures adjusted as explained on p.34] Professional class Type of education Total Agri cul tural Archi Ce Chem Civil tec tural ramic ical Min ing Me Indus and Elec trical trial chani metal cal lurgi cal Number All types____________ ___ - 42, 787 325 408 300 2, 410 17,020 8,926 743 10,802 1,853 First-degree engineering grad uates...:__________ _____ Postgraduates__________ ... . Nonengineering graduates.. College course incomplete___ Noncollegiate technical school. Secondary school.......... ......... Not reporting....... ................. 235 50 12 17 5 6 259 17 28 67 26 6 5 232 28 14 15 6 5 1,665 11,291 377 679 426 186 154 2,951 20 1,124 3 510 5 39 6,564 638 190 862 517 140 15 518 26 29 97 52 18 3 7,630 498 218 1,299 879 245 33 1,314 173 85 189 55 33 4 29, 708 2, 486 1,188 5, 651 2,684 966 107 .... _ Percentage All types______ _____ ______ 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 First-degree engineering grad uates____________________ Postgraduates______________ Nonengineering graduates___ College course incomplete___ Noncollegiate technical school. Secondary school___________ Not reporting______________ 69.4 5.8 2.8 13.2 6.3 2.3 .2 72.3 15.4 3.7 5.3 1.5 1.8 63.4 4.2 6.9 16.4 6.4 1.5 1.2 77.3 9.3 4.7 5.3 1.7 1.7 69.1 15.7 7.7 6.4 .8 .1 .2 66.4 4.0 2.5 17.3 6.6 3.0 .2 73.5 7.2 2.1 9.6 5.8 1.6 .2 69.7 3.5 3.9 13.1 7.0 2.4 .4 70.7 4.6 2.0 12.0 8.1 2.3 .3 70.9 9.3 4.6 10.2 3.0 1.8 .2 — 41 42 E M P LO YM E N T, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 - 3 4 attained professional status through following a less formal training. Three-fifths of this group had attended engineering schools but had not completed the college course. The “ other” or nongraduate engineers included 967 men whose education did not extend beyond graduation from a secondary school; the majority of these were professionally active prior to 1930. The indication from the preceding analysis that experience did affect the obtaining of professional status makes possible some explana tion of the small returns from “ other” or nongraduate engineers for the period 1930-34. These, it will be recalled, covered but 1 percent of all younger engineers reporting. On the other, hand, among the older engineers the proportion so classified was 26.6 percent. Thus, it appears that there is a “ time lag” during which the “ other” or nongraduate engineers have to obtain sufficient experience to offset the lack of formal engineering education. Educational Specialisation by Professional Class While first-degree graduates predominate in all professional classes, chart 3 reveals that there are marked variations as regards educational background among the several professional classes. For example, the lowest proportion of first-degree engineering graduates embraced 63.4 percent of the 408 architectural engineers, while the highest pro portion covered 77.3 percent of the 300 reporting ceramic engineers. In the case of engineers with postgraduate training there are reflected differences in the demand for a still higher degree of educa tional specialization and for a more elaborate training. Some 15.4 percent and 15.7 percent, respectively, of the agricultural and chem ical engineers had postgraduate degrees, and 9.3 percent in the case of both ceramic and mining and metallurgical engineers. Next in order came electrical engineers with 7.2 percent reporting postgrad uate work. The range among the other four professional classes was from 3.5 percent for industrial engineers to 4.6 percent for mechanical engineers. The opportunities for specialization for the several professions in colleges other than engineering schools differ. This is partially reflected in the relative distributions of the nonengineering graduates. Thus, in chemical engineering, it will be noted that this type of educa tion embraced 7.7 percent of this class and was as high as 6.9 percent for architectural engineering. Among the other professional classes the proportions ranged from 2.0 percent for mechanical engineers to 4.7 percent in the case of ceramic engineers. Consideration of the reports from “ other” or nongraduate engineers more clearly emphasizes the insistence upon rigid engineering educa tion as a prerequisite to engineering experience. Thus, of engineers NATIONAL DISTRIBUTION OF THE NINE P R O F E S S IO N A L C L A S S E S BY TYPE OF EDUCATION-1 9 3 4 GRADUATES OTHER ENGINEERS POST GRADUATES 1ST DEGREE ENGINEERING GRADUATES COLLEGE COURSE INCOMPLETE NON-ENGINEERING GRADUATES NON-COLLEGIATE SCHOOL TECHNICAL SECONDARY SCHOOL CERAMIC ELECTRICAL AGRICULTURAL MINING AND METALLURGICAL MECHANfCAL INDUSTRIAL CHEMICAL CIVIL ARCHITECTURAL ALL PROF. CLASSES O 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 0 10 20 0 10 0 10 20 0 10 0 PERCENT 1935 - SURVEY OF THE ENGINEERING PROFESSION 10 43 U. S BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS EDUCATIONAL QUALIFICATIONS OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS CHART3 44 E M P LO YM E N T, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 - 3 4 with college courses incomplete, relatively the lowest proportions are to be found in agricultural, ceramic, and chemical engineering, and ranged from 5.3 percent to 6.4 percent. But among the other professional classes the range was from 9.6 percent of the electrical engineers to as high as 17.3 percent of the civil engineers. A similar situation is to be noted in the distributions by professional class of engineers with noncollegiate technical school training and those with no education reported beyond secondary school. Trends in Educational Background Further consideration of the data permit of deriving certain find ings in regard to two trends concerning educational background. First, a comparison by corresponding age groups of the reports from “ other” or nongraduate engineers reveals a distinct tendency for formal college education to become a prerequisite to attaining pro fessional engineering status. Thus from the data presented in table 7 it will be noted that 34.3 percent of the reporting engineers born prior to 1875 entered the profession without a college degree. This percentage decreases steadily and was 28.1 percent among engineers born in 1885-94 and 25.7 percent among those born in 1895-99 and graduating from college in 1918-27. T a b l e 7 . — Percentage “ other” engineers formed of older 1 engineers reporting year of birth Year of birth Total Age in 1929 - _________________ ____ __________ 1905-9 ____________________________________ _____________________ __________ 1900-4 1895-99 - __ ___________ ____________ --1885-94 __________________________________ _______ _______ _____ _________ 1875-84 Prior to 1875 __________________________ 20-24 25-29 30-34 35-44 45-54 55 and over Total report ing “ Other” engineers 33,494 9,015 4,004 6,456 5,452 10,049 5,603 1,930 1,049 1,384 1,401 2,826 1,693 662 Percentage “ other” engineers 26.9 00 21.4 25. 7 28.1 30. 2 34.3 1Includes those engineers who reported they were professionally active prior to 1930. 2 The percentage for the figures as shown is 26.2. The 1,049 “ other” engineers in this group were profes sionally active in 1929. It is to be noted that returns from graduate engineers were tabulated not by age but by year of graduation on the assumption that they were 23 years of age at graduation. Therefore, for strict comparability, the 1905-9 group ought also to include engineering graduations in the period 1930-32. Were this done, the adjusted total reporting in this age group would be 9,052, of which number the 1,049 “ other” engineers would comprise 11.6 percent. This percentage, however, may overemphasize the shift which occurred in the change in the proportion with time of “ other” engineers in the profession. Certainly the trend appears to have been continuous, but it may be expected that some additions will be made from these age groups among “ other” engineers as they mature in their work. Furthermore, within the several “ other” or nongraduate types of educational background there have been distinct shifts. (Table 8.) Thus, among the 1,293 engineers born prior to 1880 who had not received a college degree 587, or 45.4 percent, were secondary-school graduates or attended noncollegiate technical schools. Among those bom from 1895-1904 only about one-third had such a background, the others being engineers who did not complete a college course. The EDUCATIONAL QUALIFICATIONS OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS 45 highest percentage (17.1) of engineers with only secondary-school education embraced men born in the years 1885-89. For noncollegiate technical school engineers the peak was reached some 5 years later. B y contrast, it is significant to note that the highest percentage for engineers with college courses incomplete embraced men bom in the period 1900-4, or some 10 years later than that noted for noncollegiate technical school engineers. This situation may also reflect the retention of memberships in engineering societies by engineers with incomplete college courses which were obtained during their attend ance at engineering schools. T a b l e 8 .— Number at end of 1984 of “ other” engineers reporting , by age and specific type of education Total Born in period College Nonengi colleSec neering giate ondary course tech school incom nical plete school Total NonNonCollege colleCollege colleSec Sec course giate ondary course giate ondary incom tech school incom tech school plete nical nical plete school school Percentage Number In each age group In each type of education Total____ 9,301 5,651 2,683 967 100.0 60.8 28.8 10.4 100.0 100.0 100.0 18741_____ 1875-79___ 1880-84___ 1885-89___ 1890-94___ 1895-99___ 1900-4____ 1905-9____ 1910-14.... 662 631 1,062 1,406 1,420 1,401 1,384 1,049 286 358 348 596 789 792 898 915 737 218 187 200 358 452 476 375 360 224 52 117 83 108 165 152 128 109 88 16 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 54.1 55.2 56.1 56.2 55.7 64.1 66.1 70.3 76.2 28.2 31.6 33.7 32.1 33.6 26.8 26.0 21.3 18.2 17.7 13.2 10.2 11.7 10.7 9.1 7.9 8.4 5.6 6.3 6.1 10.5 14.0 14.0 15.9 16.2 13.1 3.9 7.0 7.4 13.4 16.8 17.8 14.0 13.4 8.3 1.9 12.1 8.6 11.1 17.1 15. 7 13.2 11.4 9.1 1.7 i Or earlier. Growth of Postgraduate Work in Engineering The second trend to be considered has regard to the growth of post graduate training in engineering. Thus, the proportions who sought postgraduate work embraced 6.6 percent of all engineers reporting in the graduating classes prior to 1905. (Table 9.) Of the classes of 1905-9 the proportion was lower, namely 5.9 percent. Thereafter there was a steady increase from 7.1 percent of the 1910-14 classes to 8.6 percent of those who graduated in the years 1920-24, and to 10.2 1 percent of those graduating in 1925-29. Clearly, there has been a steady growth in postgraduate work in engineering. The preceding analysis, however, showed that postgraduate work is extensive in but a few professional classes. 1 The increase to 10.2 percent noted must be qualified, for it is highly probable that it reflects not only a rising trend of the past but also the lack of engineering employment in the period 1930-34. Rather than remain unemployed many engineering students continued their studies, a situation which may also have affected engineers of the graduating classes 1933-34. 46 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 -3 4 The decline in the ratio of postgraduate degrees among those gradu ating in 1930-34, as the detailed figures in the table show, is no more than a reflection of lack of time to complete graduate training. T able 9.'— Number of 'professional engineers reporting postgraduate degrees in engineering at end of 1934 [Figures adjusted as explained on p. 34] Year first degree was obtained 1 Total ad vanced degrees Total engi neering graduates Percentage advanced degrees formed of total engineering graduates Total___________________________________________________ 2,486 33,382 7.4 1930-34__________________________________________________ 1925-29__________________________________________________ 1920-24__________________________________________________ 1915-19__ _______________________________________________ 1910-14__________________________________________________ 1905-9 _____________________________________________ Prior to 1905________________________ ____ _ _ 473 662 433 260 257 178 223 8,634 6,482 5,034 3, 225 3, 616 3,032 3, 359 5.5 10.2 8.6 8.1 7.1 5.9 6.6 1934___________ ______ __________________________________ 1933________ _______ _____________________________________ 1932______ ______ ______________________________________ 1931____________________________________________________ 1930____________________________________________________ ______________________________ __ ______ 1929 __ 1928 __ _______________________________________________ 1927_____________________________________________________ 1926 ____________________________________________ 1925_____________________________________________________ 14 77 134 137 111 162 133 123 122 122 1,675 1, 794 1,832 1, 738 1, 595 1,647 1, 255 1,185 1,172 1, 223 .8 4.3 7.3 7.9 7.0 9.8 10.6 10.4 10.4 10.0 1 In the ease of the graduating classes 1933-34, the year shown is that in which the advanced degree was obtained. The Extent of Transfers from Original Courses of Specialisation In this section consideration is given to an aspect of engineering education which apparently has been of some concern to the pro fession, namely, to what extent do engineers transfer from their original course of specialization to other fields of activity. A t first glance the fact that 11.1 percent of the 31,839 reporting graduates stated that they had transferred from their original course of specialization appears significant. (Table 10.) But when con sideration is given to the relative proportions so reporting within each professional class, it will be noted that the tendency to transfer was least for ceramic, chemical, and electrical engineers, in that the pro portions practicing in these fields who had received a degree in another ranged from only 4.4 percent to 6.5 percent. Among architectural and civil engineers the proportions were approximately the same, namely, 12.7 and 11.0 percent, respectively, while a similar corres pondence will be noted in the case of mechanical and mining and metallurgical engineers with 14.7 percent and 15.7 percent, respec tively. On the other hand, in the case of agricultural engineers 31.3 percent, and in the case of industrial engineers no less than 51.0 percent, reported some other field of specialization in college. EDUCATIONAL QUALIFICATIONS OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS T able 47 10 ,— Number of engineers at end of 1934 reporting college course same as and different from professional class [Figures adjusted as explained on p. 34] Professional class Item Total i Agri Archi Chem Civil cul tec Ceram ic ical tural tural Min ing Me Elec Indus chan and trical trial met ical allur gical Number Total i____________________ 31,839 284 276 260 2,029 11, 857 7,118 529 8,006 1,480 Course same as professional class reported____________ 28,290 Course different from profes sional class reported______ 3,549 195 241 243 1,918 10, 552 6,802 259 6, 833 1,247 89 35 17 316 270 1.173 233 111 1,305 Percentage Total_____________________ 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 Course same as professional class reported________ 88.9 Course different from profes sional class reported__ _^ 11.1 68.7 87,3 93.5 94.5 89.0 95.6 49.0 85.3 84.3 31.3 12.7 6.5 5.5 11.0 4.4 51.0 14.7 15.7 1 The totdl includes first-degree graduates and those reporting postgraduate work in engineering as shown in table 6 exclusive of 355 reports covering men with (a) degrees in business administration, (b) courses in fields other than engineering, and (c) advanced degrees in other fields. Since the lowest proportions reporting change were among ceramic, chemical, and electrical engineers, it is evident that some conditioning factor must have affected these professional groups to keep the pro portions so low. The obvious answer is, of course, specialization. On the other hand, the excessively high proportion reporting a change among agricultural and industrial engineers need not necessarily be interpreted as one arising from change in activity as so much one in change of name. It is, of course, well known that mechanical and industrial engineering are closely correlated. Furthermore, industrial engineering as a professional class was a much later development than mechanical engineering. Therefore, it would obtain its source of supply from men who had been trained or graduated in mechanical engineering before engineering colleges began to teach specialized courses in industrial engineering. Similar remarks also apply to agricultural engineering, in that this field is closely allied to civil engineering. Despite the fact that, apparently, transfers among engineers is not extensive, the subsequent discussion of employment in the engineering profession does reveal certain aspects which might affect the programs of engineering education, for this analysis shows distinct shifts in regard to work of a nonengineering nature. Chapter IV Employment in the Engineering Profession, 1929 to 1934 Supply and Demand for Engineering Services, 1929 to 1934 E m ploym en t Status o f A l l Professional Engineers 1 Between December 1929 and December 1932 the total number of professional engineers in the sample increased by 4,439, from 31,252 to 35,691. (Table 11.) There was a further increase of 3,470 to 39,161 by December 1934. Thus there was a quarter again as many men with engineering training at the end of 1934 as at the beginning of the depression.2 T a b l e 11 .— Em ploym ent status at end of 1 92 9 , 1 93 2 , and 1934 ° f o,U engineers reporting [Figures adjusted as explained on p. 34] Increase or decrease in number Percentage Number Employment status 1929 to 1932 to 1929 to 1934 1932 1934 1929 1932 1934 1929 1932 1934 31,252 35,691 39,161 100.0 100.0 100.0 +4,439 +3,470 Engineering employment ____ 29, 051 Private1 ______ _______ 22,456 6, 595 Public2... . ------------Nonengineering employment - _ 1,969 232 Unemployment______ ____ _ 27, 787 19, 797 7,990 4,290 3,614 30, 299 20,619 9,680 5, 523 3, 339 93.0 71.9 21.1 6.3 .7 77.9 55.5 22.4 12.0 10.1 Total_______________________ 77.4 52.7 24.7 14.1 8.5 -1,264 +2, 512 -2,659 +822 +1, 395 +1,690 +2,321 +1,233 -275 +3,382 +7,909 +1, 248 -1,837 +3,085 +3,554 +3,107 1 Includes employees of private firms, independent consultants, “ any other employment,” and teaching. 2 Includes employees of Federal, State, county, and municipal Governments, and other public authority. 1 For these particular purposes, there are utilized the data as derived from the reports furnished as answers to question 6 of the questionnaire, in which the engineer was requested to check his employment status against only 1 of 14 items for each of the 3 years ending Dec. 31, 1929, 1932, and 1934. In view of the smpll number reporting in some categories, similarity in the detailed distributions, and the desirability of discuss ing unemployment and related data as a whole, these 14 categories were reduced to 8 and are designated thus: (1) Private firm (includes also those reporting as employees of private consulting firms and under “ any other employment” in question 6), (2) independent consultant, (3) teaching, (4) Federal, (5) State and county, (6) municipal and other public authority, (7) nonengineering employment, and (8) gross unemploy ment (i. e., includes those reporting unemployment, on work relief, or on direct relief). In the ensuing dis cussion items (1) to (3) inclusive, and (4) to (6) inclusive are hereafter referred to, respectively, as private engineering employment and public engineering employment, and these 2 in combination as total engineer ing employment. 2This increase of 25.3 percent in table 11 differs by 1.1 percent from that of 26.4 percent noted in the dis cussion of the growth of the profession. This difference is explained by the fact that in tabulating the data on employment status homogeneity of the sample of older and 1930-32 engineers was maintained. That is, in the case of the former, only those reporting for the 3 years 1929,1932, and 1934 were used; in the case of the latter, only those reporting for the 2 years 1932 and 1934 were included. While the difference between the two percentages obviously does not materially affect the analysis, it does indicate that the percentage of engineers eliminated from the tabulation was small. 48 EM PLOYM ENT, ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 - 3 4 49 This increase took place during 5 years of depression in which there was at first an actual shrinkage in engineering opportunities. En gineering employment as a whole declined 4.4 percent between 1929 and 1932. There was a rise by December 1934. The number in the adjusted sample engaged in engineering work increased from 29,051 in December 1929 to 30,299 in December 1934. The result was a large amount of unemployment and an intense pressure to find nonengineering work. For December 1932, 3,614 reported that they were unemployed. The percentage of those reporting unemployment declined from 10.1 at the end of 1932 to 8.5 at the end of 1934. But in the face of the continuing influx of engineers, the absolute number of those unemployed declined only slightly, to 3,339 at the end of 1934. Furthermore, the amount of unemployment was held at these levels only because large numbers of trained engineers went into nonprofessional work. While the presence of 6.3 percent of the professional engineers in nonengineering employment in 1929 indicates this was even then an established and normal outlet for them, there was an enormous increase in such work between 1929 and 1932. There was a further, but smaller, increase in nonengineering work between 1932 and 1934. The number reporting themselves as en gaged in such work increased from 1,969 in 1929 to 5,523 by December 1934. Among the engineers reporting, 12.0 and 14.1 percent were engaged in nonengineering work in December 1932 and 1934, respec tively. In the subsequent analyses of the income data, it will be seen that the specific nonengineering work of many of those reporting in 1934 was much more frequently of a makeshift character than in 1929. Had it not been for the large increase in the employment of en gineers by public authorities, the effect of the depression would have been even more disastrous. Private employment decreased by 11.8 percent from 1929 to 1932. Despite some increase from 1932 to 1934, it was still 8.2 percent below the 1929 level at the end of the 5-year period 1930-34. The dependence upon public employment is further evidenced by the fact that although both classes of engineering employment increased between December 1932 and December 1934, the absolute increase reported in private employment was only half of that obtaining in employment with public authorities. Relative to the numbers so employed in 1932, the rate of increase in pub lic employment was almost five times as great as that in private employment. Em ploym en t Status o f F ive Professional Classes The preceding analysis was concerned with .the engineering profes sion as a whole. Corresponding adjusted data are presented in table 12 for each professional class. 50 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 -3 4 T a b l e 1 2 . — Em ploym ent status at end of 1929, 1932, and 1934, of all engineers reporting, by professional class [Figures adjusted as explained on p. 34] Number of engineers In engineering employment Total Professional class Total private 1 1934 1929 1932 1934 All classes..-- ____________________ 31,252 35,691 39,161 22,456 19, 797 20,619 6,595 7,990 9, 680 103 5, 510 350 504 128 122 6,620 456 643 149 143 7,941 623 802 171 1929 Chemical and ceramic. __ _________ Civil, agricultural, and architectural. Electrical.-. . _____ _ _________ Mechanical and industrial_________ Mining and metallurgical_________ 1932 1934 Total public 2 1,470 1,931 2,389 13, 786 15, 330 16,365 6,112 7, 276 8,117 8,455 9, 587 10, 609 1, 429 1,567 1,681 1932 1929 1, 217 7,477 5, 238 7, 374 1,150 1,322 5,760 4, 940 6, 729 1,046 1,640 5,191 5,137 7, 512 1,139 Number of engineers In nonengineering employment Professional class 1929 All classes.. _ _____ Chemical and ceramic_________________ Civil, agricultural, and architectural____ Electrical-.. __________________________ Mechanical and industrial. . __________ Mining and metallurgical. _ ______ ____ 1932 Unemployed 3 1934 1932 1929 1934 1,969 4,290 5, 523 232 3, 614 3,339 143 694 493 517 122 320 1,413 1,155 1,190 212 459 1, 556 1, 759 1, 518 231 7 105 31 60 29 167 1,537 725 1,025 160 147 1,677 598 777 140 1 Includes employees of private firms, independent consultants, “ any other employment,” and teaching. 2 Includes employees of Federal, State, county, and municipal Governments, and other public authority. 3 Includes direct relief and work relief. While the total number of engineers during the 5-year period end ing December 1934 increased by 25.3 percent, the corresponding in creases for the separate professional classes ranged from 17.6 percent for mining and metallurgical engineers to 62.5 percent in the case of chemical and ceramic engineers. (Table 13.) T able 13.-— Percentage change 1929 to 1934 in engineering employment, by profes sional class [Figures adjusted as explained on p. 34.] Professional class Percentage increase in each pro fessional class, 1929-34 Percentage increase or decrease, 1929-34 in— Total en gineering employ ment Private1 engineer ing em ployment Public2en gineering employ ment All classes____________ ____ _____ _____ _ _ _ ____ +25.3 +4.4 -8 .2 +46.8 Mining and metallurgical ______ _______ _ . Civil, agricultural, and architectural__ ____ _ ___ Mechanical and industrial* . _ ____________ Electrical_____ __________ _ _________ .. Chemical and ceramic... ___________________ _______ +17.6 +18.7 +25.5 +32.8 +62.5 +2.5 +1.1 +5.5 +3.1 +35.1 -1 .0 -3 0.6 +1.9 -1 .9 +34.8 +33.6 +44.1 +59.1 +78.0 +38.8 1Includes employees of private firms, independent consultants, “ any other employment,” and teaching. 2Includes employees of Federal, State, county, and municipal Governments, and other public authority. EM PLOYM ENT, ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 - 3 4 51 In no professional class did total engineering employment keep pace with the growing number of engineers. The closest balance between the increase in number of engineers and the increase in total engineer ing employment was 62.5 percent to 35.1 percent for chemical and ceramic engineers. That is, without displacement of engineers already in the profession in 1929 about half of the increased number of chemi cal engineers could have been absorbed in engineering work. The next highest increase in number of persons trained for engineering work occurred among electrical engineers, among whom there was an increase of 32.8 percent. This was met by an increase of only 3.1 percent in the total number employed as engineers. Mechanical and industrial engineers fared somewhat better. Their numbers increased by 25.5 percent, while opportunities for engineering employment increased by 5.5 percent. Roughly, one-fifth of the total increase in number of all engineers between 1930 and 1934 was provided for by the growth of new jobs. Clearly, the wide variations in the rates of increase in these professional classes had an important bearing upon the nature of their employment distributions in the period 1929-34. The data for private and public engineering in table 13 accentuate the differences in available engineering opportunities for each profes sional class. Thus over the 5-year period, although private engineer ing employment for all engineers considered as a group declined by 8.2 percent, it increased by more than a third for chemical and ceramic engineers. There was little increase or decrease for electrical, mining and metallurgical, and mechanical and industrial engineers; but in the case of the civil engineers, there was a decrease of about one-third in private engineering employment. B y contrast, no professional class was excepted from the increases which took place in public engineering employment. It was, however, the civil engineers who were most affected. For them public employ ment was an important field in 1929 when 40 percent of all civil engi neers were so engaged. The 44.1 percent increase by 1934 in the amount of such employment reported meant an absolute increase of 2,431 jobs over the 5-year period in the sample covered. In contrast, less than 6 percent of electrical and mechanical engineers had been employed by public authorities in 1929. B y December 1934, although the numbers of them so engaged had increased by 78.0 and 59.1 per cent, respectively, the absolute increases in jobs reported were only 273 for electrical and 298 in the case of mechanical and industrial engineers. For chemical and ceramic, and mining and metallurgical engineers, the absolute increases were, respectively, 40 and 43. Since the available engineering opportunities did not keep pace with the increases in men trained to enter the profession, there must obvi ously have been changes in the proportions, first, of those engaged in engineering and second, of those unemployed, or engaged in nonengi- 52 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 -3 4 neering work. This is evidenced by considering the adjusted data presented in table 14. T able 14 .— Percentage distribution of employment status at end of 1929, 1932, and 1934 of engineers reporting, by professional class [Figures adjusted as explained on p. 34] Percentage total in each professional class reporting— Engineering employment Professional class Private1 Public2 Nonengineer ing employ ment Unemploy ment 3 1929 1932 1934 1929 1932 1934 1929 1932 1934 1929 1932 1934 Total, United States________________ 71.9 55.5 52.7 21.1 22.4 24.7 Chemical and ceramic______________ Civil, agricultural, and architectural. _ Electrical__________________________ Mechanical and industrial__________ Mining and metallurgical----------------- 82.8 54.2 85.6 87.3 80.6 68.5 37.6 67.8 70.2 66.8 68.7 7.0 6.3 579 31.8 40.0 43.2 48.5 63.1 5.8 6.3 7.8 70.8 5.9 6.7 7.6 67.9 8.9 9.5 10.1 6.3 12.0 14.1 9.7 5.0 8.1 6.1 8.5 16.6 9.2 15.9 12.4 13.5 19.2 9.5 21.7 14.3 13.7 0.7 10.1 .5 .8 .5 .7 2.0 8.5 8.6 6.2 10.0 10.2 10.0 7.4 10.7 7.3 10.2 8.3 1 Includes employees of private firms, independent consultants, “ any other employment,” and teaching. 2 Includes employees of Federal, State, county, and municipal Governments, and other public authority. 3 Includes direct relief and work relief. Private engineering employment furnished by far the greatest amount of employment to engineers. In 1929, even among civil engineers, 54.3 percent were so employed. For the remaining 4 professional classes, the percentages ranged from 80.6 for mining and metallurgical to 87.3 for mechanical and industrial engineers. These proportions dropped sharply from 1929 to 1932 because of a decrease in the number of private jobs and an increase in the number of engi neers. By December 1932, only 37.6 percent of the civil engineers reported as being in private engineering. The range for the remaining 4 professional classes was from 66.8 to 70.2 percent. B y the end of 1934, there was a further decrease in the proportions privately em ployed among both civil and electrical engineers. The former de creased to 31.8 percent. Among electrical engineers, private engineer ing work had employed 67.8 percent in 1932 as compared with 63.1 percent in 1934. There was only a slight improvement over 1932 for the remaining professional classes. In all classes, excepting chemical and ceramic engineers, the pro portions engaged in public engineering increased from 1929 to 1934. The most pronounced shift occurred among the civil engineers, namely, from 40.0 percent in 1929 to 48.5 percent in 1934. This, in some measure, compensated for the large decline in the private en gineering employment of this professional class. Indeed, as a result of public employment, the proportion of civil engineers in total en gineering employment in both 1932 and 1934 was slightly higher than in any other professional class. Lack of engineering employment opportunities in the period 1929-32 led to increases in both nonengineering employment and unemploy- EM PLOYM ENT, ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 - 3 4 53 ment for all professional classes. In general, the loss of private em ployment occurred from 1929 to 1932. Nonengineering employment increased sharply, absorbing many more engineers than public en gineering work, in which employment also increased. But despite the fact that the proportion of all engineers in nonengineering rose from 6.3 percent in 1929 to 12.0 percent in 1932, there was an even larger increase in unemployment. This situation was common to all pro fessional classes. There were further increases in the proportions engaged in nonen gineering work among all professional classes in the period 1932-34. Among electrical engineers, the rate of increase in the proportion who were in nonengineering employment was three-fourths of that which occurred in 1929-32. But for the remaining professional classes the corresponding ra.tes of increase were only one-third or less. In the case of civil engineers and mining and metallurgical engineers, there were almost no increases in the proportions engaged in nonengineering employment. For each of these groups there was a greater increase from 1932 to 1934 in public than in nonengineering employment. For civil engineers it was much larger. For mechanical engineers the proportions in public engineering rose from 6.7 percent in 1932 to 7.6 percent in 1934, whereas nonengineering embraced 12.4 percent of all mechanical engineers in 1932 and 14.3 percent in 1934. In their case, therefore, the rate of expansion in public engineering employment was less than that which occurred in nonengineering employment. E m p loy m en t Status o f T w o G rou ps o f Y o u n g e r E ngineers Comparison of the distributions of employment status in 1929 of those reporting engineers who entered the profession in the period 1925-29, with that in 1934 of a comparable group who entered the profession between 1930 and 1934, reflects the pressures to which new entrants were subjected during the depression years. It also em phasizes the abnormality of the employment status of the latter in 1934. In 1929 only 5.3 percent of the most recent graduates with pro fessional training were in nonengineering work and 0.4 percent were unemployed. In other words, all.but one-twentieth of those who entered the profession in these 5 years were employed in engineering work in 1929. (Table 15.) But in 1934, two-fifths of the comparable group of recent engineering graduates 3were not in regular professional engineering work. No less than 10.6 percent of them were unem ployed in December 1934, while 29.4 percent reported as being engaged in nonengineering work. 3 The term “ engineering graduate” is used interchangeably with “ entered the profession.” The tabula tions cover predominantly those who received first degrees in engineering in the years specified, but also include all “ other” engineers (such as those whose college work was incomplete) who were 23 to 27 years old at the date of reported employment. 285208°— 41------5 54 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 192 9 -3 4 T a b l e 15 .— Comparative employment status of 2 groups of younger engineers Age group In public engineering employment In pri vate 1 engi Total neering Munici pal and employ Fed State and other ment eral county public authority In nonengi- Unem neer- ployed 2 ing em ploy ment Number of engineers 1925-29 engineers, who were 23 to 27 years of age in 1929____________________________________ 36,997 1930-34 engineers, who were 23 to 27 years of age in 1934____________________________________ 316,872 5,151 452 618 6,910 1, 544 1,272 375 371 30 401 4, 959 1, 786 Percentage 1925-29 engineers, who were 23 to 27 years of age in 1929____________________________________ 1930-34 engineers, who were 23 to 27 years of age in 1934________________ _________ ______ 100.0 73.6 6.5 8.8 5.4 5.3 0.4 100.0 40.9 9.2 7.5 2.4 29.4 10.6 1Includes employees of private firms, independent consultants, “ any other employment,” and teaching. 2 Includes direct relief and work relief. 3 The absolute numbers are not comparable. About twice as high a proportion of the younger groups returned schedules. Of all recent engineers reporting both in 1929 and in 1934, approxi mately one-fifth were engaged in the three categories of public en gineering. Insofar as any differences existed, there appears to have been a slight decline in the proportions of the 1930-34 group that secured public employment. The decrease in the percentage in State and county employment was only from 8.8 to 7.5. But municipal and other public authorities in 1929 had employed 5.4 percent of the 1925-29 engineers, whereas in 1934 they employed only 2.4 percent of those who entered the profession in the period 1930-34. On the other hand, the Federal Government employed a larger percentage of the recent graduates in 1934 than it had employed in 1929. For 1929, 6.5 percent of the 1925-29 engineers reported themselves as having been employed by the Federal Government, whereas 9.2 percent of the recent entrants to the profession were so employed in 1934. In 1929 nearly three-fourths of the recent engineers were in private engineering employment. Only 40.9 percent of the 1930-34 engineers so reported for December 1934. Clearly, the abnormally large pro portion of the new entrants to the profession who were unemployed or were compelled to find work of a nonengineering nature in 1934 was due primarily to the lack of opportunities in the principal field of engineering activity. E m p loy m en t Status o f O ld er and Y o u n g e r E ngineers This dependence upon private engineering employment is common to the greater part of the engineering profession. A substantial number, however, are normally in the employ of public authorities. EM PLOYM ENT, ENGINEERING PROFESfSION, 55 19 2 9 - 3 4 This is borne out by considering the distributions of employment status of all engineers reporting. These data are shown in table 16, divided into three broad classes, by age.4 T a b l e 16 . — Distribution of older and younger engineers reporting , by employment status at end of 1 92 9 , 1 93 2 , and 1934 Percentage Number Employment status Older engineers 1 Younger engineers 1930-32 2 1929 1932 1934 1932 1934 1933<343 Older engineers i Younger engineers 1930-322 1933343 1934 1929 1932 1934 1932 1934 1934 Total________________________ 31, 252 31, 252 31,252 9,469 9,469 7,403 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 Engineering employment--------- 29,051 25,327 25, 548 Private em ploym ent--____ 22,456 18,142 17,378 Private firm. - - - ___ 19,424 14,894 14,422 Independent consultant- 1, 303 1,459 1,243 Teaching______ _______ 1,729 1, 789 1, 713 Public employment_______ 6, 595 7,185 8,170 Federal_______________ 1, 647 2,063 3,149 State and county___ _ 2, 632 2, 884 2,882 Municipal and other public authority_____ 2,316 2, 238 2,139 Nonengineering employment - __ 1,969 3, 047 3,202 232 2, 878 2, 502 Unemployment--. . ____ 4,070 2, 984 2,892 17 75 1,086 536 400 93.0 71.9 62.2 4.2 5.5 21.1 5.3 8.4 258 251 150 2,651 2, 655 2, 304 757 1,029 1,570 7.4 6.3 .7 5, 248 3,532 3,247 50 235 1, 716 531 927 6,057 3, 926 3, 748 25 153 2,131 1,008 872 81.1 58.1 47.7 4.7 5.7 23.0 6.6 9.2 81.8 55.7 46.2 4.0 5.5 26.1 10.1 9.2 55.4 37.3 34.3 .5 2.5 18.1 5.6 9.8 64.0 41.5 39.6 .3 1.6 22.5 10.6 9.2 55.0 40.4 39.2 .2 1.0 14.6 7.2 5.4 7.2 6.8 2.7 2.7 2.0 9.7 10.2 28.0 28.0 31.1 9.2 8.0 16.6 8.0 13.9 1 Includes both graduates and “ other” engineers who reported they were professionally active prior to 1930. 2 Includes both graduates and “ other” engineers who entered the profession in the years 1930-32. 3 Includes both graduates and “ other” engineers who entered the profession in the years 1933 and 1934. Of all older engineers reporting for December 1929, it will be noted that 71.9 percent were engaged in private engineering, 21.1 percent in public engineering, 6.3 percent in nonengineering work, and only 0.7 percent were unemployed. Of the 71.9 percent in private engi neering, 62.2 percent were in the employ of private firms, 4.2 percent in independent consulting work, and 5.5 percent in teaching. In public engineering, the percentages for Federal, State and county, and municipal and other public authorities ranged from 5.3 to 7.4. This situation had an important bearing on the changes which occurred in the subsequent period, especially with regard to substitute employment. Over the 5-year period there was a net change in the distributions of employment affecting 16.8 percent of the “ older” engineers; that 4 Table 16 presents the absolute figures for all reports received without adjustment. It deals with the older and younger engineers separately and, therefore, no adjustment was required in these broad age classifica tions, though allowance did have to be made for the relatively large number of reports received from young engineers when the groups were treated in combination. Older engineers comprise those who reported they were active in professional engineering prior to 1930. The younger engineers are those who entered the profession in the years 1930-34, inclusive, and are divided into 2 broad-age groups, each designated by the graduating classes which they embrace, namely, 1930-32 engineers and 1933-34 engineers. Furthermore, in tabulating the data on employment status, homogeneity of the older and 1930-32 engineers was maintained. That is, in the case of the former, only those reporting for the 3 years 1929,1932, and 1934 were used; in the case of the latter, only those reporting for the 2 years 1932 and 1934 were included. Analysis shows that the percentage eliminated was small. 56 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS----ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 -3 4 is, of engineers who had entered the profession prior to 1930. In other words, out of every 1,000 engineers reporting, there were net changes in the employment status of 168 between 1929 and 1934. In absolute numbers, there were shrinkages of 5,255 jobs for engineers graduating prior to 1929. N o less than 5,002 were separated from private firms. The remaining net losses of employment were dis tributed among those engaged in independent consulting (60), in teaching (16), and in municipal and other public employment (177). These decreases in employment opportunities for older engineers were not counterbalanced by increases in the other classes of engineer ing employment. In fact, 2,270 engineers reporting graduation prior to 1930 were still unemployed in December 1934, while 1,233 found employment in nonengineering work. Only 1,752 had been absorbed by increases in public engineering employment, one-sixth with State and county authorities, and five-sixths, or 1,502, with the Federal Government. The m ajor part of the loss of employment for older engineers occurred from 1929 to 1932. In this period net shifts in employment had affected the status of 14.7 percent of these men. The net change in the period 1932-34 involved only 4.0 percent of them. Obviously, by December 1932 the engineering profession had suffered the major impact of the depression. Between December 1929 and December 1932 there were net losses of employment involving 4,608 engineers. Only two of the categories of employment were involved, namely, that with private firms, and that with municipal and other public authorities. But of the 4,608 positions concerned, the shrinkage of employment with private firms affected 4,530; the latter, only 78. O f these engineers, only 884 were able to find other types of engineer ing employment by December 1932; nea^y 50 percent of them entered Federal Government employment, while a third entered State and county employment. There were 156 additional engineers reporting themselves as being independent consultants and 60 as engaged in teaching. Of the remaining 3,724 engineers, 2,646 were unemployed and 1,078 were engaged in work of a nonengineering nature. The shifts noted in the period 1929-32 are, therefore, indicative of two trends affecting engineers who had been in the profession in 1929: (1) The pronounced increase in Federal employment and the decrease in private employment; and (2) the comparative stability of the remaining classes of engineering employment. These trends are further accentuated by a consideration of the shifts which occurred between December 1932 and December 1934. In 1932-34, all categories of engineering work, with the exception of that with Federal Government, decreased as regards employment EM PLOYM ENT, ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 - 3 4 57 of engineers who had been in the profession in 1929. Thus, an addi tional net total of 472 engineers graduating before 1930 were sepa rated from private firms. The decreases in jobs in the remaining engineering classes ranged from 2 in the case of State and county employment to 216 for independent consultants. Incidentally, it will be noted that the proportion engaged in the latter class was only slightly less than the proportion so engaged in 1929. This would seem to indicate that the increase which had taken place from 1929 to 1932 was an artificial one, in which otherwise unemployed engineers set themselves up as consultants. Altogether, the decreases in en gineering employment between 1932 and 1934 affected 865 older engineers. Despite these decreases in many types of job opportunity, there was also a decrease of 376 in the number of engineers reporting unemployment. Only 155 found opportunities in nonengineering employment. The Federal Government gave engineering employ ment to the remaining 1,086 (87.5 percent) of those whose status shifted from 1932 to 1934. The net result of the changes in employment status among the older engineers was such that by December 1934 only 46.2 percent were in the employ of private firms, whereas 62.2 percent had been so engaged at the end of 1929. Federal employment provided for 10.1 percent in December 1934, as against only 5.3 percent in 1929. All other classes of engineering employment remained comparatively stable over the period 1930-34, especially if State, county, and mu nicipal employment are considered together. In December 1934 there were 8.0 percent unemployed, but it is obvious that had not 10.2 percent of the older engineers found work of a nonengineering nature, the proportion unemployed would have been larger by that amount. It is also obvious that by December 1934 it was primarily the increased engineering employment by the Federal Government that ameliorated employment conditions for these older engineers. The contrast between the job status of recent graduates in 1929 and 1934 has already been noted. But certain outstanding shifts from 1932 to 1934 may be noted among the engineers who entered the profession during the depression. In the first place employment opportunities increased from the end of 1932 to the end of 1934 among those who graduated in 1930-32. Slightly more than half of the 16.6 percent of this group who had been unemployed or on work relief in 1932 found employment by 1934. Furthermore, they had found nonrelief engineering employment. There was no change in the proportion engaged in nonengineering work. The gain was almost equally divided between private employment and public employment. Fewer engineers graduating in 1930-32 were teaching or engaged in what they called consulting work. The increase in 58 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS----ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 -3 4 employment by private firms, however, absorbed 5.3 percent of all engineers in these classes. Similarly, there was a slight decline in the proportions employed by States and counties, but this was much more than offset by an expansion of Federal engineering employment that absorbed an additional 5.0 percent of the total number. A comparison of the distributions of employment of 1933-34 grad uates in 1934 may be made with employment in 1932 of those grad uating in 1930-32 to show how conditions had changed as regards the most recent graduates. This comparison is not perfect because in the one case 3 graduating classes are considered and in the other only 2. From 1932 to 1934 there was almost no change in the proportions of the most recent graduates who found engineering employment. Unemployment was slightly lower, primarily because 3.1 percent more 1933-34 graduates were in nonengineering work in 1934 than had been true of 1930-32 graduates in 1932. While recent graduates in 1934 had as much opportunity for engi neering employment as a comparable group had had in 1932, this was because of an expansion in private employment and particularly em ployment with private firms. Of the 1933-34 graduates, 4.9 percent more were employed by private firms and 1.8 percent fewer were in teaching or acting as independent consultants than had been the case in 1932 among 1930-32 graduates. The total opportunities for public employment were less in 1934 among the most recent graduates than had been true of a similar group in 1932. The Federal Government did employ 1.6 percent more of them in 1934, but this could not offset the decline of employ ment opportunities with State, county, and municipal authorities from 12.5 percent of the 1930-32 graduates in 1932 to 7.4 percent of the 1933-34 graduates in 1934. E m p lo y m e n t O p p o r tu n itie s fo r O ld er and Y o u n g e r E n gineers C on tra sted The preceding discussion has shown the barriers that the depression threw in the way of newcomers to the profession. It now remains to examine the effect that even the partial absorption of the newcomers had upon the employment opportunities of the older engineers. This interrelationship is best studied in two different phases of the employment cycle: (1) During a period of an absolute contraction in job opportunities, and (2) during a period of expansion. These conditions are represented respectively by the two periods 1929-32 and 1932-34. In the first, it will be recalled that total engineering employment for the adjusted sample decreased from 29,051 to 27,787. In the second period, it grew to 30,299 by the end of 1934. The adjusted data are presented in table 17. 59 EM PLOYM ENT, ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 - 3 4 T a b l e 17 .— Increase or decrease, 1929 to 1934, in employment of older engineers and younger engineers , by employment status [Figures adjusted as explained on p. 34] Total number reporting Increase or decrease 1929 to 1932 1932 to 1934 Employment status 1929 1932 1934 Total____________________________________ 27, 988 28,694 32, 735 -2 , 862 +3, 568 +668 +3,373 Private fir m ____ _ ______________ State, county, and municipal government and other public authority_______________ Federal Government------- -- --------------------Nonengineering___________________________ 19,424 16,416 17, 534 -4 , 530 +1, 522 -472 +1, 590 4,948 1,647 1,969 5, 677 2, 312 4, 289 5,804 +174 +555 -101 3,872 +416 +249 +1, 086 5, 525 +1,078 +1, 242 +155 +228 +474 +1, 081 Older1 New 2 Older i New 3 engi en engi en neers trants neers trants 1 Includes those engineers who reported they were professionally active prior to 1930. 2 Includes those engineers who entered the profession in the years 1930-32. 3 Includes those engineers who entered the profession in the years 1933 and 1934, and also those who came in during this period from classes of 1930-32. B y December 1932 employment with private firms had declined by 15.5 percent. The loss of employment by private firms among older engineers was even greater than this. In absolute numbers, 4,530 were put out of work. Despite the enormous drop, even at this period of the depression no less than 1,522 of those engineers who entered the profession in the period 1930-32 found opportunities for engineer ing employment with private companies. Thus, approximately twothirds of the loss of employment among older engineers was due to a decrease in the amount of private employment available. Onethird was due to the fact that older engineers were unable to secure, or unwilling to take, employment which newcomers to the profession secured. B y the end of the second period, private firm employment increased by 1,118, or 6.8 percent, over that reported for December 1932. Here again there was a repetition of the condition noted for the period 1929-32. Even in this period there was a reduction in employment with private companies, affecting 472 of the older engineers. In passing, it should be noted that this decrease did not affect those who entered the profession from 1925 to 1929, but was confined to those who graduated prior to 1925. Essentially, therefore, those who entered the profession in the years 1930-34 secured all the net new employ ment that developed with private firms and also continued to find some openings at the expense of older engineers. Over the entire 5-year period 1930-34, although 5,002 older engineers suffered loss of employment with private firms, no less than 3,112 of the new entrants found engineering work. 60 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 192 9 -3 4 A considerable number of the younger engineers were able to enter engineering activity with private firms, apparently at the expense of the older engineers. This admission of younger engineers into privatefirm employment was probably not the result of a direct displacement on a particular job of any one group of older by younger engineers. The explanation is to be found in the relative ease with which a younger engineer found a new job as compared with an older one who had lost a job. The older engineer inevitably had a greater concern with the suitability of the employment and remuneration offered than had the man without an established position. Further more, the enormous influx of new entrants to the profession caused keen competition for all kinds of engineering employment, which, under the then prevailing conditions, were very definitely not of the type to suit the older engineers and which further depressed salary rates for the more elementary types of work.5 The changes effected by the depression upon the engineers in the employ of State and county, and municipal and other public authori ties, are in striking contrast to those which occurred among older engineers in private firms. Between 1929 and 1932 there was a 14.7 percent increase over the total of 4,948 who were engaged by State and county and municipal and other public authorities in 1929. The increase was shared by both the older engineers and new entrants. The number of the former increased by 174, the latter by 555. B y December 1934 the total so employed had increased to 5,804. But in this second period only the new entrants increased— by 228— whereas the older engineers decreased b y 101, a net change in favor of the younger engineers of 127. It will, however, be noted that 73 of the net number of older engineers who entered these fields of em ployment b y December 1932 were retained. Clearly, the older engineers in the employ of these particular public authorities held on tenaciously to their jobs during the depression. The most marked shift as regards this type of employment was the decrease in the proportion of younger engineers who found work with such authorities. The decrease in the number of older engineers so employed b y December 1934 may not have been due wholly to the increase of new entrants. M any of the older engineers may have found this employment an easier passage to Federal employment, which, in the period 1932-34, required a large number of engineers as administrators and supervisors for the work-relief programs then 6 In this regard, it may here be noted that for men with advancing years of experience engaged in engineer ing, the monthly earnings of engineers who were 23^ years in 1929 and 28^ years in 1934 actually increased, whereas for succeeding age groups the decline in earnings became progressively greater. For men of cor responding years of experience the greatest decline occurred for engineers who had only from 2 to 5 years’ experience in engineering work, as against relatively equal declines for newcomers and men with more than 5 years’ engineering experience. EM PLOYM ENT, ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 - 3 4 61 under way. These positions may have been more in keeping with the older e n g in e e r previous training and experience. This last statement is substantiated by the changes which occurred in Federal employment. In both periods the absolute number of older engineers who found this kind of work was greater than that for the younger engineers. Thus, by the end of December 1932 Federal employment increased by 40.0 percent from 1,647 to 2,312. This increase covered 665 engineers, which comprised 62.5 percent older and only 37.5 percent younger engineers. In the second period, the total number in the employ of the Federal Government increased from 2,312 to 3,872, an increase over 1932 of 68.0 percent. The absolute increase was divided in the ratio of 70.0 percent of the older to 30.0 percent of the younger engineers. Over the 5-year period, the respective total absolute increases were 1,502 and 723. It will also be noted that, while in the period 1929-32 the rate of increase of older to younger engineers was two to one, it increased to two and one-half times for the older by the end of December 1934. From this marked preference for older engineers in Federal Government employment, it can only be assumed that the nature of the work did more closely meet their criteria for reemployment, at least for such opportunities as were available. This contrast of employment opportunities for older and younger engineers indicates that, taking all factors into consideration, between 1930 and 1934 there was a substantial net loss of employment by the engineers active before 1930 and a considerable absorption in employ ment of newcomers to the profession. As indicated, some of this shift may have been due to direct displacement; some of it to the securing of newly created positions by the younger men. The exact proportions affected by these two tendencies cannot, of course, be determined from the reports furnished in this survey. But considera tion of the data on a more detailed age basis does reveal the general incidence of this situation. E m p loy m en t Status o f P rofession a l Classes b y A g e G rou ps This analysis of the employment status data reported by engineers of different ages is confined to two groupings of the nine professional classes. In this regard it is necessary to recall that in the discussion of employment status for all engineers combined (table 16) it was there noted that in 1929 engineering employment was reported by 29,051 older engineers. Of this number, 22,456, or 71.9 percent, were in private engineering and 6,595, or 21.1 percent, were in public engineering. Further analysis of these data shows that of the 22,456 engineers engaged in private engineering in 1929 only 7,477, or 33.3 percent, were civil, agricultural, and architectural engineers, whereas 62 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS----ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 192 9 -3 4 this same professional class comprised 5,510, or 83.5 percent, of the 6,595 in the employ of all public authorities. This marked contrast in engineering activity warrants separate analysis of the employment status of civil engineers, more especially as they constitute about half of the entire reporting sample. On the other hand, the close similarity in engineering activity of the other four professional classes permits of presenting their data in combination in view of the fact that the numbers in the samples for mining and metallurgical, and for chemical engineers are too small to support as detailed an analysis as is possible for civil engineers. These particular data by age are presented in table 18 and in graphic form in chart 4. The engineers in each professional group are classified by age and employment status in each of the 3 years. Thus, there were 2,310 civil engineers who were 50 years old in 1932 and who were over 47 in 1929. The employment status of this group is traced from year to year. The 4,280 who were 41-50 years of age in 1932 are treated as a second group, those 31-40 in 1932 as a third, and finally those 26-30 in 1932 as the fourth age group of the reporting engineers who had been in the profession in 1929. The sample was increased by 1,544 6 newcomers by 1932 and by a further 1,035 6 by 1934. What happened to the distribution of jobs in civil engineering in connection with this addition of 2,579 engineers to the 13,786 already in the profession in 1929? In the first place, total private-firm em ployment for civil engineers declined from 6,181 in 1929 to 4,008 in 1934. But even with this limitation in opportunity, 483 newcomers to the profession found jobs with private firms in 1934. There was, therefore, a net displacement between 1929 and 1934 of 2,656 or 43 percent, of the civil engineers who had been with private firms in 1929. The displacement was greatest from 1929 to 1932 and for those civil engineers entering the profession from 1925-1929. Thus, of this group nearly half of those employed by a private firm in 1929 were not so employed in 1932. This proportion decreases in each higher age group. Among those over 50 the displacement amounted to about one-quarter. For all those civil engineers who had been with private firms in 1929 there was a net loss by 1932 of 2,113 jobs, or 34 percent, while 312 newcomers to the civil engineering profession had jobs with private firms in 1932. From 1932 to 1934 there was a further net displacement of 543 of the older civil engineers, but in this period the loss of employment with private firms affected all age groups about equally, averaging nearly 13 percent of the 1932 employment. 6 On an adjusted basis as explained on p. 34. CHART 4. CIVIL, AGRICULTURAL AND ARCHITECTURAL STATE a COUNTY GOV'T. PRIVATE FIRM MUNICIPAL GOV'T. a OTHER PUBLIC INDEPENDENT AUTHORITY TEACHING CONSULTANT NONENGtNEERING WORK UNEMPLOYED ft DIRECT RELIEF VZZZZA ///////A SgSgSSgf i f i ■ ALL OTHER PROFESSIONAL CLASSES COMBINED 3 8 -4 7 E 4 1 -5 0 4 3 -5 2 2 8 -3 7 3 1 -4 0 3 3 -4 2 2 3 -2 7 2 6 -3 0 2 8 -3 2 2 3 -2 5 2 5 -2 7 2 0 -2 4 2 0 25 30 35 4 0 45 50 55 6 0 65 70 75 80 85 0 5 10 15 0 5 10 15 20 25 30 55 0 5 10 0 5 EMPLOYMENT, ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 -3 4 DISTRIBUTION OF EMPLOYMENT STATUS OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS BY AGE GROUP AT END OF 1 9 2 9 ,1 9 3 2 a 1 9 3 4 10 15 SO PERCENT EMPLOYMENT STATUS IN 1929 U. S. BUREAU OF LAtfOR STATISTICS V7Z^\ 1932 ES553 1934 __________________________ ^CHEMICAL, CERAMIC, ELECTRICAL, INDUSTRIAL, MECHANICAL, MINING AND METALLURGICAL ENGINEERS 00 64 T a b l e 18 ,— Number of engineers reporting employment status at end of 1929, 1982, and 1984, by professional class and age [Without regard to type of education reported] Total1 Y ounger3 engineers Older2engineers Employment status by professional class 1934 Over 47 years in 1929 Over 50 years in 1932 Over 52 years in 1934 38-47 years in 1929 41-50 years in 1932 43-52 years in 1934 28-37 years in 1929 31-40 years in 1932 33-42 years in 1934 23-27 years in 1929 26-30 years in 1932 28-32 years in 1934 23-25 years in 1932 25-27 years in 1934 Civil, agricultural, and architectural_____ 13,786 15,330 16,365 1929 1932 20-24 years in 1934 2,310 2,310 2,310 4,280 4,280 4,280 4, 429 4,429 4,429 2,767 2,767 2,767 1,544 1,544 1,035 Private firm____________ - ______ 6,181 Independent consultant_____________ 736 Teaching______________________ ___ 560 Federal Government.__ . . . ______ 1,177 4,380 772 608 1,693 4,008 610 573 2,936 944 259 109 180 701 250 105 200 608 212 100 319 1,858 307 186 319 1,339 303 187 406 1,177 234 180 649 2,023 160 173 338 1,335 181 179 445 1,138 128 180 727 1,356 10 92 340 693 30 107 454 602 28 92 674 312 8 30 188 273 5 17 369 210 3 4 198 State and county government_______ 2, 451 Municipal and other public authority. 1,882 Nonengineering work... ___________ 694 2 Work relief ______ ____ Unemployed and direct relief. . . . _. 103 3,047 1,880 1,413 127 1, 410 3,190 1,815 1,556 1,016 661 284 359 135 284 337 166 115 169 686 596 291 40 281 352 162 17 242 37 722 574 375 33 341 723 564 371 208 174 904 621 191 1 18 974 578 343 43 351 997 543 324 291 101 577 306 77 1 8 688 286 227 26 256 660 240 216 177 78 382 90 306 8 220 363 76 264 127 50 163 55 215 98 89 All other professional classes i ___________ 17,466 20, 361 22, 796 2,462 2,462 2,462 4, 522 4, 522 4,522 6,252 6,252 6,252 4,230 4,230 4, 230 2,895 2,895 2,435 Private firm_____ _______ _____ _ 13, 243 12,039 13,539 Independent consultant___________ 567 709 651 Teaching__________________________ 1,169 1,289 1,238 Federal Government____ ___ _____ 470 614 940 1, 524 247 241 81 1,253 261 245 92 1,226 254 234 113 3, 337 192 308 125 2,810 220 307 139 2,812 211 306 199 4,898 112 427 152 4,107 165 435 181 4,114 138 417 252 3,484 16 193 112 2, 656 49 224 146 2, 745 38 204 216 1, 213 14 78 56 1,492 6 50 106 1,150 4 27 54 33 90 195 35 85 228 13 250 38 88 245 45 219 54 131 343 3 29 60 133 465 38 350 60 139 467 99 229 78 151 673 41 421 75 145 754 140 217 41 69 294 46 79 574 27 429 45 83 659 84 156 57 32 937 17 491 44 42 979 62 114 25 15 863 78 219 State and county government______ 181 Municipal and other public authority. 434 Nonengineering work___ . . . . . . . . . 1,275 W ork relief__ ______ _ _ _ _ ___ 4 Unemployed and direct relief________ 123 276 480 2,877 136 1,941 287 512 3,967 508 1,154 51 . 53 144 443 1 22 21 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 192 9 - 3 4 Number Percentage 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 Private firm_______________________ Independent consultant_____________ Teaching__________________________ Federal Government_______________ 44.9 5.3 4.1 8.5 28.6 5.0 4.0 11.0 24.6 3.7 3.5 17.9 41.0 11.2 4.7 7.8 30.4 10.8 4.5 8.7 26.3 9.2 4.3 13.8 43.4 7.2 4.3 7.5 31.2 7.1 4.4 9.5 27. 4 5.5 4.2 15.2 45.8 3.6 3.9 7.6 30.2 4.1 4.0 10.0 25.6 2.9 4.1 16.4 48.9 0.4 3.3 12.3 25.0 1.1 3.9 16.4 21.8 1.0 3.3 24.3 20.3 0.5 1.9 12.5 17.4 0.3 1.3 24.0 20.1 0.3 0.7 19.2 State and county government_______ Municipal and other public authority Nonengineering work_______________ Work relief________________________ Unemployed and direct relief________ 17.8 13.7 5.0 («) .7 19.9 12.3 9.2 .8 9.2 19. 5 11.1 9.5 6. 2 4.0 12.3 15.5 5.8 12.3 14.6 7.2 5.0 7.3 16.0 13.9 6.8 1.7 12.2 15.2 7.0 0. 7 10.5 0.9 16.8 13.4 8.8 0.8 8.0 16.8 13.2 8.7 4.9 4.1 20.4 14.0 4.3 (®) 0.4 22.0 13.1 7.7 1.0 7.9 22.5 12. 3 7.3 6. 6 2.3 20.9 11.1 2.8 («) 0.3 24.9 10.3 8.2 0.9 9.3 23.9 8.7 7.8 6.4 2.8 24.5 5.8 19.8 0.5 14.2 23.5 4.9 17.1 8.3 3.2 15.7 5.3 20.7 9.4 8.6 All other professional classes 4___________ 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 Private firm_______________________ Independent consultant_____________ Teaching__________________________ Federal Government_______________ 75.9 3.2 6.7 2.7 59.1 3.5 6.3 3.0 59.4 2.9 5.4 4.1 61.9 10.0 9.8 3.3 50.8 10.6 10.0 3.7 49.8 10.3 9.5 4.6 73.8 4.2 6.8 2.8 62.2 4.9 6.8 3.1 62. 1 4.7 6.8 4.4 78.4 1.8 6.8 2.4 65.7 2.6 7.0 2.9 82.3 65.8 0.4 2.2 6. 7 • 4. 6 4.0 2.6 62.8 1.2 5.3 3.5 64.8 0.9 4.8 5.1 41.8 0.5 2.8 1.9 51.4 0.2 1.8 3.6 47.2 0.2 1.2 2.2 State and county government_______ Municipal and other public authority. Nonengineering work_______________ Work relief________________________ Unemployed and direct relief________ 1.0 2.5 7.3 («) .7 1.4 2.4 14.1 .7 9.5 1.3 2.2 17.4 2. 2 5.1 1.3 3.7 7.9 1.4 3.5 9.3 0. 5 10.2 1.5 3.6 10.0 1.8 8.9 1.2 2.9 7.6 0.1 0.6 1.3 2.9 10.3 0.8 7.7 1.3 3.1 10.3 2. 2 5.1 0.8 2.3 7.1 («) 0.4 1.2 2.4 10.8 0.7 6.7 1.2 2.3 12.1 2.2 3.5 1.1 1.9 13.6 0.6 10.1 1.1 2.0 15.6 2.0 3.7 2.0 1.1 32.4 0.6 16.9 1.6 1.4 33.9 2.2 3.9 0.6 35.5 3.2 8.9 2.1 1 Figures for 1932 and 1934 have been adjusted as explained on p. 34. 2 Includes graduates and “ other” engineers who reported they were professionally active prior to 1930. 3 Includes graduates and “ other” engineers who entered the profession in the periods 1930-32 and 1933-34. 4 Includes chemical, ceramic, electrical, mechanical, industrial, mining, and metallurgical engineers. 5 Less than 0.05 percent. 0.5 1.0 19 2 9 - 3 4 1.0 1.6 7.0 EM PLOYM ENT, ENGINEERING PROFESSION, Civil, agricultural, and architectural_____ Oi Oi 66 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 -3 4 In the remaining professional groups in combination this situation differs chiefly in the fact that, although employment reported with private firms also declined from 13,243 in 1929 to 12,039 in 1932, it rose sharply to 13,539 in 1934. Between 1929 and 1932, 1,213 new engineers were added and, therefore, a net of 2,417 older engineers were displaced. It is impossible to determine the extent to which this represented a loss of jobs by the older groups and the filling of other new jobs that developed with younger men. Between 1929 and 1932, 25 percent of those who entered the profession from 1925-29 were displaced from private firms, whereas this proportion dropped to 12 percent among those 41 to 50. This resembles the experience of civil engineers, among whom also the senior group had the least insecurity. But the proportion rises again to 17 percent among those over 50. From 1932 to 1934 there was a general expansion of private-firm employment among these professional groups. Recruiting was almost without exception from among engineers under 30 years of age. There was an actual net loss of 27 more jobs among those who were over 50 years of age in 1932 and a net gain of only 7 among the group 31-40 years of age in 1932. The group that were 26-30 years of age in 1932 were reemployed to the extent of 89 jobs; about one-tenth as many as they lost from 1929 to 1932. On the other hand, 279 more engineers were hired who had graduated in 1930-32 and 1,150 who graduated in 1933-34. Put slightly differently, there was no net increase in employment opportunity with private firms for men over 30. M en graduating in 1933-34 had an even chance of finding em ployment with a private firm by the end of 1934. Men who had been employed as junior engineers in 1929 but had lost their jobs had only one chance in 10. Except for Federal Government employment, the men displaced from private firms found limited opportunities in the other four kinds of engineering employment shown in table 18. For example, engi neers of all ages classified as independent consultants showed small changes in their numbers in the 3 years for which data were reported. In the case of all civil engineers reporting, the adjusted figures are 736 in 1929, 772 in 1932, and 610 in 1934. For all other professional classes, the corresponding figures are 567, 709, and 651. A similar situation is to be noted for men engaged in the teaching of engineering subjects and those in the employ of municipal and other public author ities. State and county governments, however, did offer a larger number of opportunities for engineering work, in that, for both groups of engineers the numbers so reporting steadily increased over the period 1929-34. The civil engineers, however, were the chief bene ficiaries of this gain, for their numbers increased from 2,451 in 1929 to 3,047 in 1932 and to 3,190 in 1934, as against corresponding figures of 181, 276, and 287 for the other professional classes combined. EM PLOYM ENT, ENGINEERING PROFEiSlSIiON, 1 9 2 9 - 3 4 * 67 As regards Federal Government employment, all age groups par ticipated in the increase of jobs. In the case of civil engineers some 1,177 were so engaged in 1929, but by 1932 the number had increased by 516 to 1,693. B y 1934, 2,936 were in the employ of the Federal Government, an increase of 1,243 engineers even over that reported for 1932. B y contrast, among the other professional classes, the in crease in absolute numbers of men with the Federal Government was only from 470 in 1929 to 940 in 1934, that is, a change of only 470, or but one-quarter of the increase in the number of civil engineers for the same period. Since employment opportunities in engineering were practically nonexistent in the period 1930-34, except for jobs obtained with the Federal Government, engineers displaced from private firms were left with the possibilities of going into nonengineering work, on work relief, or remaining unemployed. As regards nonengineering work, the data in table 18 clearly demonstrate that engineers of all ages were compelled to seek work of a nonengineering nature. Relatively, however, this situation was more acute for the two groups of younger engineers who entered the profession in the period 1930-34. On the other hand, as between civil engineers and the other professional classes combined, the data also show that, relatively, this shift into non engineering work was smaller for the civil engineers, of whom 694 so reported in 1929 and 1,556 in 1934, an increase of 868 as against an increase of 2,692 over the same period among the other professional classes. Even in 1929 a smaller proportion (5.0 percent) of the civil engineers were engaged in nonengineering than was true of the other professional groups (7.3 percent). Relatively, at all ages this relation ship held in 1934 but the span increased, especially in the case of those who graduated in the period 1925-29 and were 28 to 32 years of age in 1934, for in 1934, while 7.8 percent of civil engineers of these ages reported non engineering work, the proportion was as high as 15.6 among the other professional classes. Similarly, in the case of the two groups of younger engineers there was a wide variation as between civil engineers and members of the other professional classes engaged in non engineering work. As regards work relief and unemployment, these data for the three stated periods are shown merely to indicate the over-all situation in regard to employment status. A detailed discussion of unemploy ment is to be found in chapter 6. Employment in Relation to Engineering Experience The preceding discussion has traced the apparent relationship be tween age and changes in employment status from 1929 to 1934. The shifts are obviously for the most part a reflection of the impact of the depression. But it must also be noted that certain kinds of shifts are 68 CHART 5. BY PROFESSIONAL CLASS FEDERAL STATE ft COUNTY PRIVATE FIRM MUNICIPAL GOVT. a OTHER PUBLIC AUTHORITY TEACHING NONENGINEERING WORK INDEPENDENT CONSULTANT OVER 47 CIVIL,AGRICULTURAL AND ARCHITECTURAL 38. 47 CHEMICAL AND CERAMIC ELECTRICAL MECHANICAL AND INDUSTRIAL MINING AND METALLURGICAL 10 IS tO tO 30 35 40 43 SO 60 63 70 75 6 0 65 0 10 IS 0 PERCENT U. S BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS ALL ENGINEERS ENGAGED IN ENGINEERING WORK PRIOR TO 1930 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 -3 4 DISTRIBUTION OF KINDS OF ENGINEERING EMPLOYMENT OF OLDER ENGINEERS AT END OF 1 9 2 9 EM PLOYM ENT, ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 - 3 4 69 to be expected in any event, if the status of individual engineers is compared at the beginning and end of a 5-year period. The distri bution of employment status in 1929 of the four age groups of engineers who reported that they were professionally active prior to 1930 seems to indicate that there are certain types of employment into which younger engineers flow and from which they move, with increasing experience, into other fields. (Table 19 and chart 5.) As of December 1929 the m ajority of the new additions to each professional class found their first jobs with private firms. Despite the exodus into other fields which occurred with advancing age and experience, the proportions so employed remained substantially large. Even among engineers over 47 years these proportions ranged from 41.0 percent of the civil to 65.7 percent of the mechanical and indus trial engineers. It will also be noted that the rates of decrease with age in the proportions employed by private firms among chemical and ceramic, electrical, and mechanical and industrial engineers closely paralleled each other. Mining and metallurgical engineers, however, show a more rapid decline even at low ages and a drop from 63.5 percent for those 38-47 years to 44.2 percent for engineers over 47 years of age. Over the four age groups the percentages for civil engineers declined gradually from 48.9 to 41.0. In the case of civil engineers, the three categories of public engi neering employment follow in importance after private-firm employ ment. The most important in 1929 was that of State and county government. As a training ground its usefulness extended through to the age of 37. During this time, slightly more than 20.0 percent of the civil engineers were so engaged. Between 37 and 47 years the proportion declined to 16.0. There was a further decline to 12.3 percent for civil engineers over 47 years of age. Next in order came Federal Government. In 1929 this gave employment to 12.3 percent of civil engineers 23-27 years. Thereafter it was primarily a field of final employment, as indicated by the fact that the proportions so employed remained fairly constant after 27 years of age, ranging from 7.5 to 7.8 percent. Municipal and other public authority employment constituted both a training ground and a field of final employment for civil engineers. Between 28 and 37 years a sub stantial number transferred from other fields of activity. This pro portion remained fairly constant up to 47 years of age. Beyond this there was a sharp rise to 15.5 percent. Teaching was not an important field of training for civil engineers. Thus, the proportions in this category of employment increased very gradually from 3.3 to 4.7 percent. Throughout, the proportions reported in each age group were relatively less than those reported for any other professional class. In the case of nonengineering em2 8 5 2 0 8 ° — 41-------- 6 70 T a b l e 19 .— Distribution of all older 1 engineers reporting employment status at end of 192 9 , by professional class and age [Without regard to type of education reported] Chemical and ceramic Mechanical and industrial Electrical Employment status Mining and metallurgical j Over Over Over Over 23-27 28-37 38-47 Over 47 23-27 28-37 38-47 47 23-27 28-37 38-47 47 23-27 |28-37 38-47 47 23-27 28-37 38-47 47 Number of engineers in each specified age group in 1929 Total_____________ ____ ___________________ 2,767 4,429 4,280 2,310 374 576 367 153 1,810 2,265 1,447 Private firm a______________________________ 1,356 2,023 1,858 Independent consultant 160 307 10 Teaching___________________ ____ _______ 92 173 186 Federal Government__ ____ __________ _ 340 319 338 944 259 109 180 278 430 11 47 15 251 19 33 16 88 1,506 1,805 1,088 4 22 21 13 18 76 157 103 6 36 38 30 State and county governmentMunicipal government and other public authority________________________________ Nonengineering work____________ _______ Unemployment3__________ _______ _________ 21 9 590 1,861 2,961 2,218 1,415 185 450 490 304 372 1,550 2,340 1,687 9 36 74 108 56 87 191 137 11 63 79 56 150 3 9 4 323 14 32 20 311 43 35 23 134 67 29 15 930 123 138 49 10 14 11 12 15 24 25 16 8 8 16 5 38 133 7 64 167 7 56 133 4 30 60 13 19 106 12 59 187 7 52 138 15 47 86 26 3 7 1 10 37 6 8 43 11 8 35 11 ............................................... 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 577 904 686 284 8 7 2 306 77 9 621 191 19 596 291 37 359 135 40 9 48 1 11 52 3 15 29 2 5 14 1 Percentage of engineers in each specified age group in 1929 Total................ Private firm3______________________________ 48.9 Independent consultant_____________________ .4 Teaching__________________________________ 3.3 Federal Government_______________________ 12.3 45.8 3.6 3.9 7.6 State and county government_______________ Municipal government and other public authority _ ___ _ _ _ _ _ _ ___ _ N onengineering work_____________ _______ Unemployment3___________________________ 20.9 20.4 16.0 12.3 2.1 1.2 .5 11.1 2.8 .3 14.0 4.3 .4 13.9 6.8 .9 15.5 5.8 1.7 2.4 12.8 .3 1.9 9.0 .5 4.1 7.9 .5 43.4 7.2 4.3 7.5 41.0 11.2 4.7 7.8 74.4 5.6 2.4 74.7 1.9 8.2 2.6 68.4 5.2 9.0 4.4 57.4 13.7 11.8 3.9 83.2 .2 4.2 2.0 79.7 .6 6.9 1.7 .6 .6 .8 2.0 .8 .8 3.3 9.2 .7 2.1 7.3 .4 2.8 7.4 .3 3.9 9.2 .3 5.1 10.2 2.2 1.0 5.7 .6 2.0 6.3 .2 1 Includes both graduates and “ other” engineers who reported they were professionally active prior to 1930. 2 Includes employees of private consulting firms and in “ any other employment.” 3Includes direct relief and work relief. 75.1 1.5 7.1 2.1 63.0 6.1 9.5 1.9 83.3 .5 4.7 3.4 79.0 2.5 6.5 2.7 76.2 4.9 6.2 2.5 71.8 3.1 7.1 4.4 63.5 8.8 7.1 4.7 4.3 1.8 3.3 1.6 1.6 3.8 .5 2.2 8.2 1.3 1.6 8.8 2.2 2.6 11.5 3.6 65.7 8.7 9.8 3.5 81.1 1.6 4.9 2.2 1.1 1.1 2.3 6.2 .6 3.3 6.1 1.8 44.2 22.1 9.5 4.9 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 192 9 - 3 4 Civil, agricultural, and architectural EM PLOYM ENT, ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 - 3 4 71 ployment, the progressive increase with age was much sharper than that indicated for teaching. After the age of 47, however, the pro portions declined from 6.8 to 5.8 percent. Independent consulting did not attain importance for civil engineers until between 28 and 37 years of age. Over the four age groups this category of employment showed the sharpest increase with age. The most marked change occurred after 47 years, at which time the proportions engaged in independent consulting rose from 7.2 to 11.2 percent. Among chemical and ceramic, electrical, mechanical and indus trial, and mining and metallurgical engineers, the two most important sources of employment for recent graduates, after private-firm em ployment, were teaching and nonengineering. Throughout all four age groups the proportions reported in these two fields were relatively very much higher than they were for the corresponding age groups in any one of the three categories of public engineering. This was also the case with regard to independent consulting, but only up to the age of 47. B y comparison with nonengineering employment, the most marked uniformity of trend with age obtained in teaching. Thus, for the latter, after the age of 27, the relative increases were practically the same for all four professional classes. These proportions remained fairly constant up to the age of 47. Beyond this age limit, there were sharp rises. It will also be noted, that, in the case of chemical and ceramic engineers, teaching embraced a higher proportion in each age group than any other professional class. (The proportions of the latter were consistently the same throughout.) Thus, over the four age groups, the percentages of chemical and ceramic engineers so engaged ranged from 5.6 to 11.8. The corresponding percentages reported by electrical, mechanical and industrial, and mining and metallurgical engineers averaged from 4.6 to 9.6 percent. In nonengineering employment, slightly higher proportions were reported by electrical and mining and metallurgical engineers. The progressive increases with age were also more sharply defined for the latter. In the case of electrical engineers, the proportions increased gradually from 7.3 percent of the youngest to 10.2 percent of the oldest of the four age groups. B y contrast, mining and metallurgical engi neers increased sharply after 27 years of age from 3.8 to 8.2 percent. There was a further increase to 8.8 percent for engineers 38 to 47 years; after which there was another sharp rise to 11.5 percent of engineers over 47 years. For mechanical and industrial engineers, the percentages reported for nonengineering employment remained fairly constant. Of the oldest chemical and ceramic engineers, 9.2 percent were engaged in nonengineering work. As in the case of civil engineers, members of the other four pro fessional classes showed the same trends with age in the three cate gories of public engineering employment. That is to say, they con- 72 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 -3 4 stituted both a training ground and a field of final employment. The only progressive increases with age occurred in Federal Government employment for mining and metallurgical engineers; and in positions with municipal and other public authorities for electrical and mechani cal and industrial engineers. The remaining proportions reported for public engineering followed the same general tendency— they decreased after 27 years of age and increased between the ages of 38 and 47. In most instances, there were further increases reported for engineers over 47 years. Independent consulting was, of course, practically nonexistent as a type of employment for the recent graduate. It was, however, the one field in which the respective proportions were sharply defined. B y the age of 37, relatively a larger number of mechanical and indus trial, and mining and metallurgical engineers were established as independent consultants than was the case for chemical and ceramic and electrical engineers. The latter reported only 0.6 percent. The highest percentage for this age group, namely 3.1, occurred among mining and metallurgical engineers, which class maintained this relative differential for the two remaining age groups, and between the ages of 38 and 47, covered 8.8 percent. B y contrast, only 5.2 and 4.9 percent, respectively, of the chemical and ceramic and mechan ical and industrial engineers were so engaged. Again electrical engineers were the lowest with 1.5 percent. The proportionate increases for all four professional classes were very marked indeed after the age of 47. This covered 22.1 percent of the mining and metallurgical and 13.7 percent of the chemical and ceramic engineers, whereas the proportions of electrical, and mechanical and industrial engineers over 47 years engaged in independent consulting were 6.1 and 8.7, respectively. Employment in Relation to Type of Education Elsewhere the statement has been made that there is quite an apparent tendency to increase the educational requirements for entry into the engineering profession. Broadly speaking, however, each of the six types of education for which data have been compiled will continue for some time as components of the engineering profession. Hence, an examination of the relation of each type of education to the seven categories of employment is warranted. Again only the data for those engineers who reported they were professionally active prior to 1930 are presented in table 20. Irrespective of type of education, engineers are overwhelmingly dependent upon private industry for employment. Thus, among the graduates of both engineering colleges and noncollegiate technical schools, almost two-thirds were employed by private firms in 1929. EM PLOYM ENT, ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 73 19 2 9 - 3 4 Approximately three-fifths of the engineers with a secondary school education or whose college course was incomplete were so employed. Only among postgraduates did private firms employ as little as onehalf. T a b l e 2 0 . — Em ploym ent status at end of 1929 of all older 1 engineers reporting , by type of education Type of education Graduate engineers Employment status All types of edu cation Firstdegree engin Post eering gradu grad ates ates “ Other ’ ’engineers Non Nonengin College Sec course collegieering incom ate ondary grad technical school plete uates school Number Total____________________________________ 31, 252 20, 721 1,865 814 4,665 2,334 853 Private firm 2____________ ______ _________ Independent consultant___________________ Teaching________________________________ Federal Government_____ _•_______________ State and county government_____________ Municipal government and other public authority-------------- ------------------------------Nonengineering work------------------------- -----Unemployment3------------------------------------- 19, 424 1,303 1, 729 1,647 2, 632 13, 274 816 1, 050 1,113 1.514 926 45 549 92 80 463 48 59 113 44 2, 713 247 56 223 613 1, 523 101 13 69 265 525 46 2 37 116 2, 316 1,969 232 1, 366 1,440 148 61 102 10 42 43 2 507 265 41 229 109 25 111 10 6 Percentage Total____________________________________ 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 Private firm2____________________________ Independent consultant____ ________ .... Teaching_________________________________ Federal government___________ _________ State and county government--------------------Municipal government and other public authority_______ ____ ______ - ___ Nonengineering work_________ _____ _ _ Unemployment3----------- ------------------------- 62.2 4.2 5.5 5.3 8.4 64.0 3.9 5.1 5.4 7.3 49.7 2.4 29.4 4.9 4.3 56.9 5.9 7.2 13.9 5.4 58.1 5.3 1.2 4.8 13.1 65.2 4.3 .6 3.0 11.3 61.6 5.4 .2 4.3 13.6 7.4 6.3 .7 6.7 6.9 .7 3.3 5.5 .5 5.2 5.3 .2 10.9 5.7 .9 9.8 4.7 1.1 13.0 1.2 .7 1 Includes both graduates and “ other” engineers who reported they were professionally active prior to 1930. 2 Includes employees of private consulting firms and “ any other employment.” 3 Includes direct relief and work relief. The second largest employment outlet was clearly defined only among postgraduates. No less than 29.4 percent reported as being engaged in teaching. Of the nonengineering graduates 13.9 percent were in the employ of the Federal Government. The proportions engaged in the remaining kinds of employment for these two types of education did not show a large variation. For first-degree engineer ing graduates, State and county government work followed in importance after private-firm employment. Only 7.3 percent were so employed, but it should be noted that this differed but slightly from 6.9 percent who were engaged in nonengineering work and 6.7 percent embraced by municipal and other public authorities. After private-firm employment, all “ other” engineers had, as close options for employment, the same two categories of public engineering. 74 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 192 9 - 3 4 For all three types of education, State and county government employment was only slightly more important than that with munici pal and other public authorities. Furthermore, in both instances, the secondary-school engineers reported the higher proportions. Thus, while 13.6 percent of them were in the employ of State and county governments, those whose college course was incomplete and graduates of noncollegiate technical schools reported 13.1 and 11.3 percent, respectively. A similar order was noted for positions with municipal and other public authorities, in which the percentages ranged from 9.8 for noncollegiate technical school engineers to 13.0 percent for the secondary-school engineers. Except for the 13.9 percent of nonengineering graduates who were in the employ of the Federal Government, there was no extreme variation among the remaining proportions reported by graduates and “ other” engineers. The highest (5.4 percent) occurred for first-degree engineering graduates; the lowest (3.0 percent) for non collegiate technical school engineers. This was also the case with Regard to the percentages reported for independent consulting. A similar condition was noted in nonengineering employment for all types of education, except secondary school engineers. Only 1.2 percent of this number were engaged in nonengineering work. The greatest divergence in the proportions reported by each type of education occurred in teaching. It has already been noted that 29.4 percent of the postgraduates were so engaged. But although the numbers in each of the other two types of graduate education were much lower, relatively they were much higher than those for the “ other” engineers. Thus, while 5.1 percent of all first-degree engineer ing graduates found employment as teachers of engineering subjects, the highest percentage reported among “ other” engineers was only 1.2. Clearly, the educational requirements for teaching of engineering are exceptionally high. This is further exemplified by a consideration of the relation of the proportions reported for each type of education in terms of the grand total engaged in each employment category. Of the 1,729 engineers engaged in the teaching of engineering sub jects, 60.7 percent were first-degree engineering graduates and 31.8 percent were postgraduates. Nonengineering graduates and collegeincomplete engineers embraced nearly the same proportions, averaging but 3.3 percent of the whole. The next highest percentage of 0.8 referred to noncollegiate technical school engineers. Clearly, in relation to the whole, teaching does demand a higher standard of educational requirement. Furthermore, it is unquestionably one in which engineers with postgraduate training are in greatest demand. A similar analysis of the remaining engineering employment classes also evidenced another slight differential in educational requirements. Thus, among the graduate engineers, and for private-firm and Fed- EM PLOYM ENT, ENGINEERING PROPESiSION, 19 2 9 - 3 4 75 eral Government employment, the several proportions were consis tently higher than those for State and county, and municipal and other public authorities. Among the “ other” engineers, this condi tion was reversed. Furthermore, the percentages reported by the “ other” engineers for these particular employment classes showed a greater divergence than was the case for the graduate engineers. Thus, while college-incomplete engineers averaged 23.0 percent of all engineers employed by State and county, and municipal and other public authorities, those employed by private firms and the Federal Government only averaged 13.7 percent of the whole. The noncollegiate technical school engineers included only 4.2 percent of the total working for the Federal Government. For the other two employ ment categories of public engineering, they averaged 10.0 percent. Their private-firm employment embraced 7.8 percent. Relatively, the secondary school engineers showed the smallest differential. Thus, in positions with private firms and the Federal Government, they averaged 2.5 percent as against 4.6 percent of all engineers reported for State and county and municipal and other public authorities. It was previously indicated that independent consulting was essen tially a field of employment that became markedly important only after the age of 47. T o a lesser extent, this was also noted for non engineering employment and teaching. It has been demonstrated that teaching does demand a higher educational standard. B y con trast, it is evident that experience is an important criterion for entry into independent consulting and nonengineering work; for both the two highest proportions covered first-degree engineering graduates and college-incomplete engineers. Those reported by the remaining types of education were very much less. In each instance, however, it was noted that noncollegiate technical school engineers followed after those whose college course was incomplete. These relative pro portions were 19.0 and 7.8 percent for independent consulting and 13.5 and 5.5 percent in the case of nonengineering employment. Fields of Engineering Activity 7 Although the distributions by fields of engineering activity presented in table 21 merely reflect in more detailed form the activity peculiar to each professional class, they again show that for the m ajority of engineers the choice of employment in such activities is somewhat narrowly confined. In general, chemical and ceramic and mechan ical and industrial engineers are dependent primarily upon manufac turing industries for their employment. To a lesser extent, so are mining and metallurgical and electrical engineers, while civil engineers predominate in the construction field of employment. 7 Fields of engineering activity are synonymous with zones of interest in question 12 of the questionnaire. 76 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS---- ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 - 3 4 Relatively, however, chemical and ceramic engineers are more dependent upon manufacturing industries for their employment than any of the other four professional classes, for of their older engineers no less than 66.6 percent were so engaged in December 1934. In the other fields of engineering activity, the proportions of chemical and ceramic engineers reporting were very small. Thus, for all three age groups the proportions employed by public utilities and extractive industries were practically the same and embraced, respectively, 4.5 percent and 5.7 percent of men professionally active prior to 1930. Transportation and construction work were practically nonexistent as fields of employment for chemical and ceramic engineers. In the combined fields of public employment, however, 8.5 percent of the older engineers reported as being engaged, while 11.6 of this same group were engaged in teaching and personal service. In general, mechanical and industrial engineers closely paralleled the distributions noted for chemical and ceramic engineers. They followed second in order in regard to the proportions embraced in manufacturing with 53.8 percent of their older engineers so employed and in personal service 11.3 percent of this same group were so engaged. So also in the three categories of public employment there was a close similarity between chemical and ceramic and mechanical and indus trial engineers. However, in the fields of engineering activity desig nated public utilities, extractive industries, transportation, and private construction, the proportions were much higher, averaging from 4.1 to slightly over 9 percent over the three age groups. B y contrast to the distributions just discussed, it is of interest to note that both mining and metallurgical engineers and electrical engineers had alternative fields of engineering activity to manufac turing, covering, respectively, extractive industries and public utilities. The figures show that, in the case of mining and metallur gical engineers, manufacturing and extractive industries together accounted for 86.6 percent of the younger engineers and as many as 72.2 percent of the men professionally active prior to 1930. The corresponding proportions for electrical engineers in manufacturing and public utilities were 74.4 percent and 72.7 percent. It is, however, to be noted that over the three age groups the proportions of each of these professional classes in manufacturing steadily declined, while those reported for both extractive industries and public utilities steadily increased. In general, these two professional classes show similar distributions in the remaining fields of engineering activity. Civil, agricultural, and architectural engineers again present the same situation as was noted in the discussion of kinds of engineering employment, namely, that they predominate in the construction fields of private industry and public employment, while their oppor tunities in other fields of employment were very low. Thus, in , T a b l e 2 1 — Number of engineers reporting field of engineering activity at end of 1 98 4 » % professional class and age group Chemical and ceramic Civil, agricultural, and architectural Electrical Younger engineers bom Younger Younger Younger Older Older Younger Older Older engineers engi engi engi engineers engi engineers engineers born born born born neers neers neers neers born born born born prior to prior to prior to prior to 1907-92 1907 3 1910-14i 1907-92 1907 3 1910-14i 1907-92 1907 3 1910-141 1907-92 1907 3 1910-141 1907-92 1910-141 Older engi neers born prior to 1907 3 Number All fields___________________________ ______ 627 658 1,279 1,310 1, 556 7,061 172 209 1,146 755 1,177 4,949 1,328 2,131 11,532 Manufacturing_______________________________ Public ut ilities_________________________ Extractive industries___ ______________________ Transportation____________________ ____ _ __ Construction (private)________________________ 481 35 35 5 9 545 15 53 2 6 853 58 73 15 24 825 91 68 75 106 942 146 68 64 117 3,792 604 243 328 639 84 79 8 83 333 228 31 23 24 442 458 31 28 40 1,559 2,033 70 164 125 79 30 74 21 215 99 60 85 40 261 617 441 317 495 1,885 Federal Government4________________ ________ State and county government4_________________ Municipal government4___ _____________ ___ _ Personal service 8________________ _________ ___ 23 9 9 21 10 7 2 18 42 23 43 148 56 19 11 59 89 41 10 79 412 110 137 796 2 2 262 12 564 4 23 11 4 11 11 1 14 79 39 22 141 43 23 9 41 63 30 26 59 204 83 204 507 415 388 65 41 711 678 114 83 2, 523 3,011 1,448 795 65 6 Percentage All fields............. ....... ............ ............................. 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 Manufacturing__ ___________________________ Public utilities_____ ________ __ ________ Extractive industries______________ _____ ______ Transportation________ _______ _ _ _____ ___ Construction (private)________________________ 76.8 5.6 5.6 .8 1.4 82.8 2.3 8.1 .3 .9 66.6 4.5 5.7 1.2 1.9 63.0 6.9 5.2 5.7 8.1 60.6 9.4 4.4 4.1 7.5 53.8 8.6 3.4 4.6 9.0 48.8 37.8 3.8 39.6 1.2 1.0 22.9 1.0 49.3 .3 2.0 44.2 30.2 4.1 3.0 3.2 37.6 38.9 2.6 2.4 3.4 31.5 41.2 1.4 3.3 2.5 5.9 2.3 5.6 1.6 16.2 4.6 2.8 4.0 1.9 12.2 5.4 3.8 2.7 4.3 16.3 Federal Government4______ - _____________ __ State and county government4_________________ Municipal government 4_ __ ___ ____________ Personal service 6______ _ - __ - ________ 3.7 1.4 1.4 3.3 1.5 1.1 .3 2.7 3.3 1.8 3.4 11.6 4.3 1.5 .8 4.5 5.7 2.6 .6 5.1 5.8 1.6 1.9 11.3 6.4 2.3 5.3 5.3 .5 6.7 6.9 3.4 1.9 12.3 5.7 3.0 1.2 5.4 5.4 2.5 2.2 5.0 4.1 1.7 4.1 10.2 31.2 29.2 4.9 3.1 33.5 31.8 5.3 3.9 21.9 26.1 12.6 6.9 1Includes graduates and “ other” engineers who entered the profession in the period 1933-34. 2 Includes graduates and “ other” engineers who entered the profession in the period 1930-32. 3 Includes graduates and “ other” engineers who reported they were professionally active prior to 1930. 4 Primarily engineers engaged on construction work. 5Includes engineers engaged in teaching, publications, professional, trade organizations, etc. 37.8 3.5 <1 EM PLOYM ENT, ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 - 3 4 Field of engineering activity Mining and metal lurgical Mechanical and industrial 78 E M P LO YM E N T, EARNINGS---- ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 - 3 4 manufacturing, only 5.4 percent of their older engineers were so em ployed, in public utilities 3.8 percent, in extractive industries 2.7 percent, and in transportation 4.3 percent. The 6.9 percent reporting in persona] service was relatively the lowest of the five professional classes. Types of Engineering Work 8 Consideration of the distributions of engineers by type of work (table 22) shows that operation was the most important one for the younger engineers in all five professional classes, except civil engi neering. Thus, while 62.7 percent and 56.8 percent of the younger chemical and ceramic engineers reported operation as their type of work, only 35.5 percent of the older engineers in this professional class were so engaged. Similarly, declines are to be noted for mining and metallurgical, electrical, and mechanical and industrial engineers, although from 20.8 percent to 37.1 percent of the older engineers in these three classes were in operation. Among civil engineers operation as a type of work embraced only 18.7 percent and 14.2 percent of the younger engineers, and but 11.2 percent of those professionally active prior to 1930. After operation, and except for civil engineers, the next highest proportions are to be noted for men engaged in design and research. The general tendency in this type of work was for the percentages to increase with age. This was especially so for chemical and ceramic engineers and electrica] engineers, and to a lesser extent for mining and metallurgical engineers. For the other two professional classes the proportions remained fairly constant. Over the five groups of older engineers the range in the numbers in design and research was from 19.3 for mining and metallurgical engineers to 34.2 percent of the chemical and ceramic engineers. As regards construction, it is to be noted that in this type of work civil engineers predominated. N o less than 49.0 percent and 52.6 percent of the younger engineers and 43.7 percent of the older engi neers of this professional class so reported. The lowest proportions in construction work covered chemical and ceramic engineers and averaged only 2.6 percent. Among the other three professional classes, from 7 percent to 10 percent of their members were engaged in construction. The numbers reporting sales work seem to indicate that this type of work was relatively more important only to electrical and mechanical and industrial engineers. Thus, while the former averaged 4.0 percent of their younger engineers, the latter was slightly higher with nearly 6.0 percent. For the older engineers in these two professional classes 8 Types of engineering work are synonymous with functional classification in question 13 of the question* naire. T a b l e 2 2 . — Number of engineers reporting type of engineering work at end of Dec. 1934, by professional class and age group Chemical and ceramic Mining and metal lurgical Older Younger engi neers born engi neers born prior to 1910-144 1907-92 1907 3 Younger engi Older neers born engi neers born prior to 1910-141 1907-9 2 1907 3 Civil, agricultural, and architectural Older Younger engi neers born engi neers born prior to 1910-141 1907-9 2 1907 3 O der engi neers born prior to 1907 3 Number All ty p e s_________________________ ________ Operation.-. _ _ _________ Design and research____________________________ Construction 4________ ______________ _____ Sales __ ___ . __ _ _ _ ___ _ _ _ General administration and management____ __ Consulting 3______ ______________ __ ________ Teaching______ _______ _____ ___ ______ _____ 645 611 1,203 168 198 1,069 725 861 4,975 1,254 1,479 6,628 1,286 2,052 10,947 405 192 10 8 7 13 10 347 195 17 11 12 11 18 427 412 29 50 90 75 120 116 29 13 2 2 4 2 110 44 16 3 7 11 7 397 206 67 24 113 142 120 385 158 69 32 24 35 22 342 291 113 36 20 30 29 1, 515 1, 378 524 362 411 353 432 530 405 95 67 87 32 38 565 500 124 98 103 44 45 1,378 2,128 661 640 761 494 566 240 320 630 3 34 44 15 291 491 1,079 20 60 63 48 1,225 2, 301 4, 789 157 1,102 795 578 Percentage 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 Operation .. _ . _ ___ ___ ___ ____ _ __ Design and research_____ ____________________ Construction 4_____ ____ ________ _ ______ Sales_____________________ ___________________ General administration and management____ _ _ Consulting __ ____ __ _ _ ____ Teaching_______ _______ __________________ 62.7 29.8 1.6 1.2 1.1 2.0 1.6 56.8 31.9 2.8 1.8 2.0 1.8 2.9 35.5 34.2 2.4 4.2 7.5 6.2 10.0 69.0 17.3 7.7 1.2 1.2 2.4 1.2 55.6 22.2 8.1 1.5 3.5 5.6 3.5 37.1 19.3 6.3 2.2 10.6 13.3 11.2 53.2 21.8 9.5 4.4 3.3 4.8 3.0 39.7 33.8 13.1 4.2 2.3 3.5 3.4 30.4 27.7 10. 5 7.3 8.3 7.1 8.7 42.3 32.3 7.6 5.3 6.9 2.6 3.0 38.2 33.8 8.4 6.6 7.0 3.0 3.0 20.8 32.0 10.0 9.7 11.5 7.5 8.5 18.7 24.9 49.0 .2 2.6 3.4 1.2 14.2 23.9 52.6 1.0 2.9 3.1 2.3 11.2 21.0 43.7 1.4 10.1 7.3 5.3 1 Includes graduates and “ other” engineers who entered the profession in the period 1933-34. 2 Includes graduates and “ other” engineers who entered the profession in the period 1930-32. 3 Includes graduates and “ other” engineers who reported they were professionally active prior to 1930. 19 2 9 - 3 4 All types.................................. ............................... EM PLOYM ENT, ENGINEERING PROFESSION, Older Younger engi neers born engi neers born to 1910-141 1907-9 2 prior 1907 3 1910-144 1907-92 Younger engi neers born Type of engineering work Mechanical and in dustrial Electrical 4 Includes both private and public construction. 6 Includes both independent consultants and engineers employed as consultants with private firms. CD 80 E M P L O Y M E N T , EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 - 3 4 the respective percentages were 7.3 and 9.7. By contrast, among the younger members of the other three professional classes, the percentage engaged in sales did not exceed 2 percent, and ranged from 1.4 to 4.2 percent of their older engineers. As would be expected, general administration and management covered a higher proportion of younger mechanical and industrial engineers than that reported by any other professional class. The numbers so reporting embraced 7.0 percent, as against only 3.5 percent of the 1933-34 mining and metallurgical engineers. Among the older engineers reporting, however, there was little difference in the several proportions so engaged. For the case of older chemical and ceramic engineers some 7.5 percent were in general administration and management, while the highest percentage reported covered 11.5 percent of the mechanical and industrial engineers. Consulting and teaching both present the same characteristics. First, they apparently do not offer a wide range of employment to younger engineers. Second, there was a close similarity in the pro portions of older engineers engaged in these two types of work. Thus, while for consulting the proportions ranged from 6.2 to 13.3 percent, they ranged from 5.3 percent to 11.2 percent for teaching. Chapter V Conditions of Employment in the Engineering Profession One of the effects of the depression years was to bring about a quickening of interest in the whole subject of economic security of professional groups, for, prior to the onset of the depression in 1929, such topics were primarily the concern of nonprofessional workers. Because of this a series of questions relating to economic security was incorporated in this survey of the engineering profession. In effect they supplement the preceding discussion of employment and the subsequent one on unemployment among professional engineers. The particular aspects covered are as follows: (1) Means used to obtain employment, (2) civil-service status, (3) the employment and separa tion contract, and (4) provision for retirement on pension. The data 1 were derived from reports furnished only by engineers who had engineering jobs in December 1934. Means Used to Obtain Employment The data furnished by engineers concerning the medium through which they obtained employment are presented in table 23. These figures demonstrate that for the engineering profession as a whole, placement was not the function of any particular organization. The vast majority of professional engineers obtained their jobs through personal contacts and recommendations. This was the means used to find the position held in 1934 by no less than 68.4 percent of the 35,559 engineers who also reported the field of engineering activity in which they were engaged. This medium of finding employment was reported b y three-quarters o f the chemical, electrical, and mining and metallurgical engineers, and b y slightly more than 70.0 percent 1 The numbers reported in this chapter as engaged in engineering work in December 1934 cannot be com pared with those shown in the discussion of employment. The former were derived from all of the 35,890 engineers who reported the field of engineering in which they were engaged. The discussion of employment dealt with all those older engineers who reported in the 3 years 1929,1932, and 1934, and all 1930-32 engineers who reported in 1932 and 1934. The grand total, including the 1933-34 engineers, was 35,675. ■Of the 35,890 engineers who gave income data in their special field, 331 did not report the year of their birth. Hence, 35,559 constitutes the base for all subsequent relationships with field of engineering activity engaged in. But 1,458 of these engineers did not report as to type of work engaged in, and hence 34,101 was used as a base figure for all subsequent relationships with type of engineering work. Furthermore, the data shown in the tables of this chapter are unadjusted, as spot checks of the figures showed that the adjusted data did not differ sufficiently to affect the general discussion and conclusions derived therefrom. 81 82 EM P L O Y M E N T , EARNINGS---- ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 - 3 4 T a b l e 23.— Distribution at end of 1934 of all engineers reporting medium of ob taining employment, by professional class Engineers utilizing each specified medium Medium used to obtain employment All profes sional classes Chemi Civil, agricul cal and tural, ce and ramic architec engi tural neers engineers Elec trical engi neers Mechan ical and indus trial engi neers Mining and metal lur gical engi neers Number 35, 559 2,538 14,861 6,816 9,833 1,511 24, 312 Personal contacts and recommendations__ 3,706 Civil service._ ----------- _ ___ ___ -------------841 E ngineering society. _ ______________________ Private employment agency. _ _______ _____ 576 567 Newspapers______________ _____ ___________ _ 363 Technical journals. ___ ^ ._ ___________ _ United States Employment or Reemployment 264 _ ------- _ _ _ Service___ 268 Other public employment service. ________ _ 2, 551 Any other medium__________________________ Medium not reported........................................... 2,111 1,927 63 36 49 27 54 9,179 2, 941 274 113 152 142 5,106 289 130 112 120 64 6,960 343 360 285 255 85 1,140 70 41 17 13 18 7 15 259 101 190 169 706 995 14 26 655 300 46 54 849 596 7 4 82 119 All media_________ _ _ _ _ _ _ ------- ------- Percentage All media___________________________________ 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 Personal contacts and recommendations_______ Civil service.__ ---------------------------------- ------Engineering society--------------------------------------Private employment agency--------------------------Newspapers____ _ _ _ __ ___ ___ __ Technical journals----------- -----------_ ----United States Employment or Reemployment Service. __ ------- -- ------------- -- ------------------Other public employment service. _ _-------Any other medium------ -- --------- ----------------Medium not reported _ ____________ ___ __ __ 68.4 10.4 2.4 1.6 1.6 1.0 75.9 2.5 1.4 1.9 1.1 2.1 61.7 19.8 1.8 .8 1.0 1.0 75.0 4.2 1.9 1.6 1.8 .9 70.7 3.5 3.7 2.9 2.6 .9 75.4 4.6 2.7 1.1 .9 1.2 .7 .8 7.2 5.9 .3 .6 10.2 4.0 1.3 1.1 4.8 6.7 .2 .4 9.6 4.4 .5 .5 8.6 6.1 .5 .3 5.4 7.9 of the mechanical and industrial engineers, but by only 61.7 percent of the civil engineers. The civil engineers, however, also secured a substantial number of jobs through civil-service agencies. They were the only professional group of which this was true. Of the engineers who had engineering jobs in December 1934, 19.8 percent of the civil engineers stated that these were found through the civil service, whereas among the remaining four professional classes, the range was from only 2.5 percent for the chemical and ceramic engineers to 4.6 percent for the mining and metallurgical engineers. Thus, 2,941, or four-fifths of the total of 3,706, who used the civil service as a means to a job were civil engineers. It will, however, be noted that personal contacts and recom mendations, together with civil service, accounted for 74.2 percent of the mechanical and industrial engineers. For each of the remaining professional classes, these two media covered approximately fourfifths of their respective totals, ranging from 78.4 percent of the chemi cal and ceramic to 81.5 percent of the civil engineers. O O N D IT T O IN S : OF EMPLOYMENT IN ENGINEERING PROFESSION 83 In all professional groups there was a relatively high proportion of unclassified means of securing a job, although the several professional groups show marked differences. “ Any other medium” may well include a substantial number placed through their colleges, a point not covered in the questionnaire and one likely to affect the percentage noted in this classification. Although the percentage distributions for the remaining avenues to employment do not embrace large numbers of each professional class, relatively they do present some striking contrasts. Only 2.4 percent of all engineers reported that they obtained their position through an engineering society. Some 3.7 and 2.7 percent, respectively, of the mechanical and industrial, and of the mining and metallurgical engineers were so classified. For the three remaining professional classes, the percentages ranged from 1.4 to 1.9. Despite the fact that so few engineers reported an engineering society as their employment medium, it must be recognized that such societies are an important factor in obtaining employment for professional engineers. It is obvious that through their members there must inevitably be a pool ing of information on employment prospects, both locally and nation ally. Furthermore, the officials of the various societies are kept in close touch with local and national employment conditions as a result of their meetings and conventions; but such appointments as are made would depend rather upon personal contacts and recommendations than upon contacts made through the society’s employment service. The fact, therefore, that only 2.4 percent of all engineers reported the engineering society as their medium of employment must be interpreted in the light of these conditions. The securing of employment through newspapers and technical journals was reported by 1.6 and 1.0 percent, respectively, of all engineers making returns. It will be noted however that, relatively, electrical and mechanical and industrial engineers found more jobs through newspapers than did any of the other professional classes; this medium was reported by 1.8 percent of the electrical and 2.6 percent of the mechanical and industrial engineers, whereas among the other classes the highest percentage was 1.1. On the other hand, technical journals as a medium of employment were of more assistance to chemical and ceramic engineers (2.1 percent); among the remaining professional classes the percentages ranged from 0.9 to 1.2. Private employment agencies were used by only 1.6 percent of all engineers reported. When considered together, the two public em ployment agencies embraced approximately the same proportion, namely, 1.5 percent. A similar comparison among the five pro fessional classes showed that, relatively, public agencies were of more importance to civil engineers, of whom 2.4 percent so reported, where as the next highest percentage was 1.0 percent for mechanical and 84 EM P L O Y M E N T , EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 - 3 4 industrial engineers. Only 0.8 percent of the civil engineers used private employment agencies to obtain jobs, but 2.9 percent of the mechanical and industrial engineers did so; for the remaining pro fessional classes, the percentages ranged from 1.1 to 1.9 percent. Economic Security in the Engineering Profession A written contract of employment and pension privileges are two important criteria of economic security. The efficacy of any such schemes, however, depends to a marked extent upon the nature of the employment. This is demonstrated by a comparison of the data concerning economic security among professional engineers who re ported as being engaged in public engineering, personal service, and private engineering. Civil^Service Status The importance of civil-service status as a factor in stability of employment is shown in table 24. . T a b l e 2 4 — Distribution at end of 1984 of all engineers reporting civil-service status, by field of engineering activity and professional class Number Field of engineering activity and professional class Total Percentage Not With With Not re Total With With re sta out out sta port port status tus status tus ing ing Federal Government- _______ ____ ___________ 4,649 74 Chemical and ceramic________ - ________ Civil, agricultural, and architectural_______ 3, 620 Electrical_____________________ _______ 306 Mechanical and industrial___ ___ ______ 549 Mining and metallurgical_________________ 100 2,084 2, 250 22 44 1, 649 1, 734 143 138 272 240 62 30 315 8 237 25 37 8 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 44.8 29.7 45.6 46.7 43.7 30.0 48.4 59.5 47.9 45.1 49.6 62.0 6.8 10.8 6.5 8.2 6.7 8.0 State and county governments --------------------- 4,438 Chemical and ceramic. __________________ 37 Civil, agricultural, and architectural_______ 4, 044 134 Electrical____ ____ _ _ ________ Mechanical and industrial___=. _________ _ 170 Mining and metallurgical_______________ _ 53 2,487 1,604 30 3 2, 203 1, 535 91 33 28 123 5 40 347 4 306 10 19 8 100.0 100.0 100.0 100 0 100.0 100.0 56.1 81.1 54.4 67.9 72.3 75.5 36.1 8.1 38.0 24.6 16.5 9.4 7.8 10.8 7.6 7.5 11.2 15.1 Municipal governments___________ ____ ______ 2,090 54 Chemical and ceramic.. - ________________ Civil, agricultural, and architectural_______ 1, 617 238 Electrical - . ___ _ ___________ ____ 158 Mechanical and industrial____________ Mining and metallurgical_________________ 23 1,028 28 829 88 70 13 952 23 709 136 77 7 110 3 79 14 11 3 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 49.1 51.8 51.3 37.0 44.3 56.6 45.6 42.6 43.8 57.1 48.7 30.4 5.3 5.6 4.9 5.9 7.0 13.0 Despite the fact that 11,177 of the engineers reporting were in the employ of public authorities in December 1934, only 45.0 percent of them reported as being under civil service. The proportion of all engineers with civil-service status was 48.4 percent in the case of positions under the Federal Government, and for employment under State and county and municipal governments, 36.1 and 45.6 percent, respectively. The percentage under civil service of the engineers employed by the Federal Government was higher than in the two CONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT IN ENGINEERING PROFESSION 85 other public employments, despite the very great increase in Federal Government employment by December 1934, as a result of temporary employment under the work-relief programs; it may be assumed that relatively few of the engineers so employed would be classified under civil service. Consequently, under normal circumstances, the pro portion of all engineers under civil service with the Federal Govern ment would be higher than 48.4 percent. On the other hand, with regard to the other two classes of public engineering, it will be recalled that the numbers of engineers so engaged remained comparatively stable over the period 1930-34. Hence, the proportions reported as being under civil service are representative of the situation. The relative proportions of each professional class under civil service differed very markedly among the three classes of public engineering employment. The smallest range occurred in Federal positions— from 45.1 percent for electrical engineers to 62.0 percent for mining and metallurgical engineers. These two professional classes also constituted the extremes of the range of the proportions embraced by municipal governments, but in reverse order. Thus, of the mining and metallurgical engineers in municipal employment 30.4 percent, and of the electrical engineers 57.1 percent, had civil-service status. Relatively, the smallest numbers of each professional class under civil service were found in State and county governments. This is best exemplified by the comparative data for civil engineers; of their number, 47.9 and 43.8 percent respectively, in Federal and municipal employments, but only 38.0 percent in State and county positions, had civil-service status. But since the civil engineers comprised approximately 80.0 percent of the 5,038 engineers who were under civil service, it is obvious that such a status is a significant contribu tory factor to the stability of employment. T R e Em ploym en t C ontract For the engineering profession as a whole, the data in table 25 clearly evidence a lack of economic security in terms of a written con tract which would secure employment over a substantial period of time. In all, only 3,169, or 8.9 percent, of the 35,559 engineers who reported employment in an engineering field 2 were covered by written contract. Of these, some 0.8 percent had a contract for less than 1 year, 3.5 percent a contract for between 1 and 2 years, and only 0.9 percent for 2 years or more. Engineers who did not report as to period of contract formed 3.7 percent of the whole. No less than 91.1 percent either answered “ N o ” or did not furnish specific information. 2Throughout the whole of this discussion, only engineering employment is considered. Consequently, no cognizance has been taken of the economic security of engineers engaged in nonengineering employment. 2 8 5 2 0 8 ° — 4 1 ------- 7 86 E M P LO YM E N T, EARNINGS---- ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 - 3 4 Comparison of the positive returns on employment contract from all engineers in the three broad fields of engineering activity shows that use of the contract was most common in personal service— primarily education. For engineers under contract in the personal service field the most common contract period (reported by 25.6 percent of the 2,778 engi neers so engaged) was from 1 to 2 years. Some 4.0 percent were under contract for periods of 2 years or longer. Although the cor responding percentages for public engineering were much lower than for personal service, they were higher than for private engineering. For employment contracts under 1 year, however, private exceeded public engineering (1.0 percent, as against 0.5 percent). Of all reporting engineers engaged in public engineering, 2.0 percent had contracts for 1 and under 2 years, and 1.1 percent for periods of 2 years and over. The corresponding percentages for private engineer ing were 1.4 and 0.5 percent. . T a b l e 2 5 — Distribution at end of 1934 of all engineers reporting employment contract, by field of engineering activity Number Field of engineering activity All fields________________ Un Under contract der for— con tract, Not Total 2 no pe report Total Un land 2 Un land ing i years riod years der 1 under re der 1 under 2 and 2 and year years over port year years over ed Under contract for— 35, 559 295 1,234 0.8 3.5 0.9 99 12 6 8 2 71 637 20, 358 100.0 113 3, 217 100.0 60 1,743 100.0 50 4,088 100.0 17 1,227 100.0 397 10,083 100.0 1.0 .9 .6 .4 .4 1.4 1.4 1.8 1.1 .5 .3 1.7 .5 .3 .3 .2 .2 .7 121 34 295 10,484 100.0 181 4,359 100.0 .5 .7 2.0 .9 1.1 .7 2.6 93.8 3.9 93.8 81 4,167 100.0 .3 2.8 1.1 1.8 94.0 33 1,958 100.0 .2 2.7 1.8 1.6 93.7 378 1,548 100.0 1.1 25.6 4.0 13.6 55.7 212 32 11 16 5 148 298 63 21 21 4 189 Public engineering_______ 11,177 Federal Government, _ 4, 649 State and county gov ernments___ _______ 4,438 M u n icip a l g o v e r n 2,090 ments ______ 53 33 224 42 15 125 50 5 57 37 2,778 30 712 110 _______ Un der con tract, Not no pe re riod port re ing i port ed 330 1,310 32,390 100.0 Private engineering______ 21, 604 Construction ___, , , 3,437 Extractive industries __ 1,841 Public utilities_______ 4,183 Transportation______ 1, 255 10, 888 Manufacturing, ___ Personal service, Percentage 3.7 91.1 2.9 3.3 3.3 1.2 1.4 3.6 94.2 93.7 94.7 97.7 97.7 92.6 1 Also includes those who reported “ No,” which number could not be separated in the tabulation. For the separate fields of engineering activity under private engi neering, relatively, the largest proportion of engineers under contract in their jobs occurred in manufacturing, with 408, or 3.8 percent of the 10,888, reporting as so engaged. In the construction and extrac tive industries 3.0 and 2.0 percent, respectively, had written contracts. The smallest proportions under contract were reported by engineers in the employ of public utilities or engaged in transportation (1.1 and 0.9 percent, respectively). There was a marked contrast in contract CONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT IN ENGINEERING PROFESSION 87 status between Federal positions and those in the two other categories of public engineering. Thus, while only 2.3 percent of the 4,649 reporting engineers in Federal employ were on contract, the propor tion working on this basis for State and county and for municipal governments formed respectively 4.2 and 4.7 percent of their grand totals. The type of work in which engineers under contract were engaged is presented in table 26. T a b l e 26.— Distribution at end of 1934 of all engineers reporting employment contract, by type of engineering work Percentage Number Un Under contract for— der con Not tract, re Total Un 2 2 no pe port Total Un 1 and land der un years der un years riod re ing i 1 der 2 and 1 der 2 and year years over year years over port ed Under contract for— Type of engineering work All types, ______________ 34,101 288 1,196 Design and research ____ Construction _______ __ Operation ___ ______ _ Consulting_____________ Teaching________________ Sales-----------------------------General administration and management- ___ 9,050 8,233 8, 276 2,146 2,050 1,513 106 39 57 26 24 15 119 153 79 30 692 59 52 63 38 11 98 7 305 209 148 80 350 56 2,833 21 64 42 88 Un der con tract, no pe riod re port ed Not re port ing! 0.8 3.5 0.9 3.6 91.2 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 1.2 .5 .7 1.2 1.2 1.0 1.3 1.9 1.0 1.4 33.8 3.9 .6 .8 .5 .5 4.8 .5 3.4 2.5 1.8 3.7 17.1 3.7 93.5 94.3 96.0 93.2 43.1 90.9 2,618 100.0 .7 2.3 1.5 3.1 92.4 311 1,236 31,070 100.0 8, 468 7, 769 7, 954 1, 999 886 1,376 i Also includes those who reported “ N o,” which number could not be separated in the tabulation. In general, the distribution followed the same trend as shown in table 25, that is to say, the largest groups had written contracts for periods from 1 and under 2 years. Table 26 also confirms the previous finding that engineers engaged in teaching are relatively more secure with regard to employment than other members of the engineering profession: 33.8 percent of their number reported written contracts for periods of from 1 to 2 years. Sales employments, next in order, had under contract for a similar period only 3.9 percent of their 1,513 reporting engineers, and general administration and management only 2.3 percent. Each of the other types of work had less than 2.0 percent. Even for the contract periods of 2 years and over, teaching covered 4.8 percent of the total reported for this type of work. The next highest percentage, namely, 1.5, was reported for general administra tion and management. In no one of the remaining employments did the percentage of engineers with written contracts for 2 years and over exceed 0.8 percent. Thus, with regard to fields of engineering activity or the types of work within them, the engineering profession cannot be said to have any substantial security of employment provided through a written 88 E M P LO YM E N T, EARNINGS---- ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 - 3 4 contract for a period of time. On the other hand, professional engineers are not generally restricted with regard to the seeking of employment similar to that in which they may be engaged. This is evidenced by a consideration of the data furnished by professional engineers concerning their separation contract status. Tables 27 and 28 indicate the percentage of the engineers who are bound for indicated periods of time after leaving their present employ not to accept similar employment. Thus, while 8.9 percent of the engineers reported that their present employment status was pro tected by contract, 1.7 percent reported that they were bound by contract in some respect with reference to accepting similar employ ment with another employer after separation from their present job. This included 0.8 percent whose separation contracts were for less than 1 year, 0.2 percent for a period of from 1 to 2 years, and 0.4 percent for 2 years and over. Clearly, restrictions upon professional engineers with regard to new employment were few. T able 2 7 . — Distribution at end of 1984 of all engineers reporting separation contract, by field of engineering activity Number Percentage Un Under contract der for— con Field of engineering activity tract, Not Total pe report Total 2 no 2 Un land years Un land riod ing i years der 1 under re der 1 under 2 and 2 and year years over port year years over ed Under contract for— All fields________________ 35, 559 287 77 128 95 34,972 100.0 0.8 0.2 0.4 Private engineering______ 21, 604 Construction _ ______ 3, 437 Extractive industries-_ 1.841 Public utilities.4,183 Transportation _____ 1,255 Manufacturing _____ 10,888 180 32 19 16 2 111 67 5 1 2 124 8 2 2 .8 .9 (2) .6 .2 .1 (2) 112 .4 .2 1.0 .3 .1 .1 59 38 21,195 100.0 10 3, 382 100.0 4 1,815 100.0 4 4,159 100.0 2 1,251 100.0 18 10,588 100.0 Public engineering_______ 11,177 Federal Government. 4,649 State and county gov ernments . . . 4, 438 Municipal govemments. 2,090 50 16 3 1 2 2 26 11,096 100.0 8 4,622 100.0 .4 .3 (2) (2) 27 7 1 1 10 8 4,400 100.0 2,074 100.0 .6 .3 (2) 2, 778 57 7 31 2,681 100.0 2.1 Personal service__________ 2 1.0 .5 1.0 (2) (2) Not re port ing! 0.3 98.3 .2 .3 .2 .1 .2 .2 98.1 98.5 98.6 99.5 99. 6 97.3 .2 99.4 .2 99.5 .2 99.2 .4 99. 3 (2) .3 Un der con tract, no pe riod re port ed .1 1.1 96.4 1 Also includes those who reported “ N o,” which number could not be separated in the tabulation. 2 Less than Ho of 1 percent. The purpose of the separation contract is to prevent the transfer of a special capacity to a competitor. M ore particularly it is designed to protect the employer’s interest in secret processes and developmental research. This being so, it is difficult to account for the fact that 4.3 percent of those engaged in teaching reported a separation contract covering the obligation not to engage in similar employment for a period of time, as against the obligation to work out the period of the 89 'CONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT IN ENGINEERING PROFESSION T able 28.— Distribution at end of 1934 of all engineers reporting separation contract, by type of engineering work Number Percentage Under contract for— Un Under contract der for— con tract, Not 2 no pe report Total Un Total Un 1 1 2 der and years riod ing i der and years 1 under and 1 under and re year 2 over port year 2 over years ed years Type of engineering work All types 274 72 122 9,050 8, 233 8,276 2,146 2,050 1, 513 68 45 52 10 51 28 33 9 12 62 2 33 9 2,833 20 6 ______________ 34,101 Design and research ____ Construction___________ Operation._ __________ Consulting .. ___________ Teaching_____ . . . ____ _ Sales___ ________________ General administration and management_______ 6 6 93 33,540 100.0 5 15 18 16 8 31 1 11 4 0.8 0. 2 0.4 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 .8 .5 .6 .5 2. 5 1.9 .4 .1 .1 .7 (2) .4 .4 .3 .4 .3 2,792 100.0 .7 .2 .4 8,872 8,159 8,163 2,119 1,962 1, 473 Un der con tract, no pe riod re port ed Not re port ing 1 0.3 98.3 .2 .2 .2 .4 1.5 .1 97.9 99.2 98.7 98. 7 95. 7 97. 3 .1 98.6 1Also includes those who reported “ No,” which number could not be separated in the tabulation. 2 Less than Mo of 1 percent. employment contract (table 28). It seems probable that there may have been confusion in the reports. Sales and design and research are, as should be expected, the other two types of work in which the separation contract appears most frequently. But whereas 2.7 per cent of those engineers in sales work reported a special contractual limitation upon taking up similar work with another employer, the period to which they bound themselves was generally less than 1 year. In design and research a smaller percentage, 2.1 percent, were bound by a special separation contract but in one-third of the cases the period specified was 2 years or more, and was over a year in more than half the cases where such a contract existed. In construction, of course, such contracts are least frequently reported and again are for periods of less than a year. Provision for Retirem ent on Pension An analysis of the data furnished by professional engineers concern ing their pension privileges is presented in table 29. As of December 1934 almost one-third (10,641) of the 35,559 pro fessional engineers reporting who had engineering jobs at that time stated that they had pension privileges. Of this number, 6,684, or 18.8 percent, were covered by contributory pension schemes, and 3,957, or 11.1 percent by noncontributory schemes. Some 57.8 percent were in employments for which no pension provision had been made. About 12.3 percent did not furnish information. Of the engineers in pensionable positions, the smallest relative pro portion, 26.2 percent, were engaged in private engineering. By contrast, 37.4 percent of the engineers engaged in public engineering 90 E M P LO YM E N T, EARNINGS---- ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 - 3 4 T a b l e 29. — Distribution at end of 1934 of all engineers reporting pension privileges, by field of engineering activity Number Percentage Pension privileges Field of engineering activity Total No pen sion Con tribu tory plan Pension privileges Noncontributory plan Not No re port Total pen sion ing Con tribu tory plan Noncontributory plan Not re port ing All fields_____________________ 35,559 20,556 6,684 3,957 4,362 100.0 57.8 18.8 11.1 12.3 Private engineering---------------- 21, 604 13, 207 Construction-------------------- 3,437 2,445 Extractive industries_____ 1, 841 1,109 Public utilities----- -------- 4,183 1,833 Transportation----------------- 1, 255 576 Manufacturing___________ 10,888 7,244 2,265 174 272 341 120 1,358 3,387 2,745 100.0 138 680 100.0 200 260 100.0 1, 555 454 100.0 143 100.0 416 1,078 1, 208 100.0 61.1 71.1 60.2 43.7 45.9 66.5 10.5 5.1 14.8 8.2 9.6 12.5 15.7 4.0 10.9 37.2 33.1 9.9 12.7 19.8 14.1 10.9 11.4 11.1 357 1, 202 100.0 542 100.0 248 51.8 39.8 34.2 43.2 3.2 5.3 10.8 11.7 Public engineering___ _______ Federal Government_____ State and county govern ments. ________ . . . Municipal governments. __ 11,177 4, 649 5,791 1, 850 3,827 2,009 4, 438 2,090 2, 723 1, 218 1,193 625 58 51 464 100.0 196 100.0 61.3 58.3 26.9 29.9 1.3 2.4 10.5 9.4 Personal service______________ 2,778 1, 558 592 213 415 100.0 56.1 21.3 7.7 14.9 and 29.0 percent of those in personal service had pension privileges. It will also be noted that for public engineering and personal service the contributory scheme predominated. On the other hand, of the engineers engaged in private engineering, the largest proportion was covered b y noncontributory systems. However, within the private engineering group marked differences were shown; the same was true of the three categories of public engineering. The largest number of professional engineers covered by a pension plan were those in the employ of the Federal Government. Out of a total of 4,649 engineers in Federal employment reporting, 43.2 percent were under a contributory and only 5.3 percent under a noncontribu tory plan. The corresponding proportions in positions with State and county, and municipal governments were very much less— 26.9 and 1.3 percent, and 29.9 and 2.4 percent, respectively. This order of difference parallels that of the proportions of engineers under civil service in these three classes of employment, but only in the case of the Federal Government are the two proportions closely related. This arises from the fact that, whereas all persons under Federal civil service must contribute to the retirement fund, this is not true to the same extent for employments under State and county, and municipal governments, where age, length of service, and salary are also taken into consideration. Among the remaining fields of engineering activity, public utilities and transportation reported the next highest proportions (after Federal employment) as having pension privileges. Public utilities and trans portation used the noncontributory scheme; this type of plan covered CONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT IN ENGINEERING PROFESSION 91 37.2 percent in utilities and 33.1 percent in transportation; contribu tory systems covered only 8.2 and 9.6 percent, respectively, of those reporting. For the three remaining pursuits shown under private engineering, the largest number of engineers with pension privileges did not exceed 25.7 percent, and in all cases contributory schemes predominated. From the preceding discussion of the pension privileges it is quite evident that the kind of employment has a marked effect upon the question of the installation of a pension scheme. In no type of engi neering employment was a majority of the reporting engineers pro tected by such a plan. Chapter VI Unemployment in the Engineering Profession, 1929 to 1934 Although unemployment has for decades been recognized as a major form of insecurity affecting wage earners, it was not formerly regarded as an immediate problem of the professional worker. Fairly reliable data concerning wage-earner unemployment have been made available from time to time, but for professional workers little more has been known than that in this depression unemployment grew to such proportions among professional workers as to constitute a major problem. It is, therefore, of fundamental interest to trace in more detailed form how engineers fared in regard to unemployment during the depression. This survey of the engineering profession presents for the first time a substantially reliable picture of the incidence of unemployment upon a professional group. There are unfortunately no comparable data for the other professions. The information furnished1 has made it possible to measure not only the proportions who were unemployed at the end of each of the 3 years covered in the survey, but also to measure the incidence of unemployment over the 5-year period and the duration of such unemployment. The extent of relief is also measured. Unemployment at End of 1929, 1932, and 1934 The first part of the discussion will be concerned with trends in unemployment. For the country as a whole there was an appreciable decrease in unemployment among professional engineers between December 31, 1932, and December 31, 1934. Thus, while the pro portion unemployed on December 31 rose from 0.7 percent in 1929 to 10.1 percent in 1932, it had declined to 8.5 percent by 1934 (table 30). i See questions 6 and 7 of the questionnaire. 92 (Appendix A, p. 214.) UNEMPLOYMENT, ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 -3 4 93 T a b l e 30.— Percentage of engineers reporting u n em p loym en t 1 at end of 1929, 1 93 2 , and 1934, by professional class [Figures adjusted as explained on p. 34] Percentage unemployed on Dec. 31— Professional class 1929 1932 1934 All classes...... .................................. ................................ ..................... 0.7 10.1 8.5 Chemical and ceramic___ _ _ ____________ ____________ _____ _________ ____ Civil, agricultural, and architectural_________ Electrical..________ _____________ . ______________ ___________ Mechanical and industrial____ __ __________ _ ___ Mining and metallurgical__________ ____ ____ _______ _ . .5 .7 .5 .7 2.0 8.6 10.0 10.0 10. 7 10.2 6. 2 10.2 7.4 7.3 8.3 i Includes direct relief and work relief. It has already been shown that the decreases in unemployment among engineers from 1932 to 1934 do not imply an increase in the proportion engaged in engineering activities. While a larger pro portion of the engineers were employed in 1934 than in 1932, the gain, if all professional classes are considered in combination, occurred in nonengineering work. Increases of nonengineering employment were particularly important to electrical engineers. Only in the case of mining and metallurgical engineers was there a large increase in the percentage reporting engineering employment. The most striking fact in table 30 is the narrow range in the propor tions of unemployment among the various professional groups for each of the three periods. This is especially true for 1932 with a range of from 8.6 percent for the chemical and ceramic engineers group to 10.7 percent for mechanical and industrial engineers.2 In 1929, although 2.0 percent of the mining and metallurgical engi neers reported unemployment, the range for the remaining profes sional classes was only from 0.5 to 0.7 percent. The fact that mining and metallurgical engineers differed so markedly probably indicates that they were affected earlier by the drop in business activity. So also in 1934 there is a narrow range for all professional groups, except civil engineers. In their case the proportion of unemployment increased from 10.0 to 10.2 percent, which presumably reflects less building in 1934 than in 1932. The unemployment situation among the remaining professional classes improved the most in the case of mechanical and industrial engineers. B y type of education.— The type of education the engineer had received affected the extent of unemployment (table 31). Thus, in 2 This is especially noteworthy because, according to the Federal Reserve Board indexes for 1929 and 1932, general manufacturing activity declined from 119 to 63; manufacturing wage-earner employment from 105 to 65; whereas building permits for nonresidential construction decreased from 142 to 40. In part, the stability of employment among civil engineers was due to the large proportion in public employment. The high instability among mechanical engineers may have been due to a relatively large employment in the “ heavy industries” where the index of wage-earner employment declined from 103.7 to 51.3. But the 1932 data do indicate an apparently extensive interrelationship of activity for various professional classes. 94 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS----ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 -3 4 1932 the proportion of all postgraduates who were unemployed was only two-thirds that of graduates with a first degree in engineering. Among chemical engineers and mechanical engineers, the difference in favor of the postgraduates was greatest. The smallest difference occurred among civil engineers. The same characteristic relation ships occurred in 1934, though, for all but civil engineers, in each case the decrease in unemployment was marked. There is no clear evidence in this table of a relationship between the extent of unemployment among those engineers whose college work was incomplete, or who attended noncollegiate technical schools, and those who had first degrees.3 T a b l e 31 .— Percentage of engineers reporting u n em p loym en t 1 at end of 1 9 2 9 , 1 9 3 2 , and 1934, by type of education and professional class [Figures adjusted as explained on p. 34] Percentage unemployed on Dec. 31— 1932 1929 Professional class 1934 Non Col Non First- Col lege colle Post Firstlege colle Post FirstPost de course de course de giate giate grad gree grad gree gree tech grad grad in tech uates grad in uates grad com uates com nical nical uates plete course uates plete uates course All classes__________ 0.6 0.7 0.9 Chemical and ce ramic Civil, agricultural, and architectural __ Electrical _______ Mechanical and in dustrial__________ Mining and met allurgical ______ .4 1.6 .6 .8 .7 .3 .8 .6 10.5 10.4 11.1 5.8 2.6 7.2 10.1 10.6 10.2 9.6 11.7 10.3 8.8 4.8 10.2 7.5 1.1 7.5 5.8 9.7 1.4 1.4 9.2 7.3 8.7 Col lege course in com plete Non colle giate tech nical course 10.3 10.0 11.9 9.3 13.3 8.6 .5 .8 .9 .4 6.0 11.0 11.9 10.5 4.3 7.8 8.2 6.3 .7 2.1 2.1 3.8 8.8 11.2 8.3 9.6 7.2 8.9 8.4 11.2 i Includes direct relief and work relief. B y age.— The outstanding feature of table 32 is that a larger pro portion of the older engineers remained unemployed on December 31, 1934, than was true of those graduating from 1905 to 1932. In the table the engineers are classified on the basis of their age in 1934. The first four groups shown in the table include both engineers with out college degrees who were over 28 in 1934, and those who graduated prior to 1930. The last two groups shown entered the profession during the depression and, therefore, could not have been employed in December 1929. As of December 31, 1929, the percentage range 3 The striking lower percentages of unemployment among secondary-school engineers, namely, 6.6 in 1932 and 3.4 in 1934, are not shown in the table because the number of cases is small, and because it may be that some secondary-school engineers ceased to be engineers when unemployed. This may have also been the case even for the college incomplete and noncollegiate technical-school engineers. Percentages for nongraduate chemical engineers have been omitted from table 31. They are based on such a small number of cases as probably to be without significance. The percentages are: For engineers whose college training course was incomplete, 7.9 in 1932 and 6.8 in 1934; for those with noncollegiate tech nical-school training, 25.0 in 1932 and 23.8 in 1934. UNEMPLOYMENT, ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 -3 4 95 of unemployment was from 0.4, in the case of the youngest engineers, to 1.9 for engineers 48 years and over as of that period, and 53 years or over as of 1934. B y December 1932 unemployment had increased markedly for all age groups. Unemployment was least (8.0 percent of the total) for engineers 31 to 40 years of age in 1932 (33 to 42 years of age in 1934). Unemployment rose to 10.9 percent among the oldest engineers, those over 50 years of age in 1932. The possibility of voluntary retirement makes it impossible to determine whether the proportion unemployed at the end of the year was larger among the oldest group of engineers than among those who were 26 to 30 years of age in 1932, 10.6 percent of whom were unemployed. The youngest group, com posed for the most part of those who attempted to enter the pro fession after graduation in the depression years of 1930-32, had the largest unemployment at that time; on December 31, 1932, one-sixth of them were unemployed. , T a b l e 3 2 — Percentage of all engineers reporting u n em p loym ent 1 at end of 1929, 1932, and 1934, by age and year of graduation 2 Percentage unemployed on Dec. 31— Approximate age in 1934 of engineers and year of graduation 1929 53 j^ears of age and over, and graduates prior to 1905___ _ . -. _ 43 to 52 years of age, and graduates during 1905-14________________ 33 to 42 years of age, and graduates during 1915-24____ __________ 28 to 32 years of age, and graduates during 1925-29________________ 25 to 27 years of age, and graduates during 1930-32________________ 23 to 24 years of age, and graduates during 1933-34________________ 1.9 .7 .4 .4 1932 10.9 8.7 8.0 10.6 16.6 1934 11.5 8.1 7.0 7.0 8.0 13.9 1 Includes direct relief and work relief. 2 In order to obtain a datum whereby direct comparisons could be made between engineers with and with out degrees, the median age of graduation among the several professional classes was computed. This was found to be 23 years. Consequently, the data were so tabulated to permit of grouping by years of graduation and corresponding year of birth for each of the periods 1929, 1932, and 1934. In this table, engineers with colege degrees in the years indicated are combined with “ other” engineers of the ages given in the table. Further inspection of table 32 shows very clearly that by December 1934 many of the older engineers were still unable to obtain work, and there is a very strong presumption that the preference in new hirings was given to the younger men. This is partly explicable on the grounds that: First, the older engineers probably were in a better position financially to weather the continuing depression; and second, the available professional employment opportunities were of such a nature as not to be in keeping with their experience or their customary salary status. In any event, it will be observed that unem ployment among those who graduated4 in 1925 to 1929 was cut from 10.6 percent in December 1932 to 7.0 percent in December 1934. The proportion of those who had graduated from 1930 to 1932 and were unemployed on December 31, 1932, was cut in half by December 31, 4 Includes also corresponding group (i. e., 28-32 years), the year of graduation and age being used interchangeably. 96 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 -3 4 1934. B y way of contrast, the percentage of unemployment among those 41 to 50 years of age in 1932 was reduced from 8.7 percent in 1932 to 8.1 percent in 1934. The proportion of those over 50 in 1932 reporting unemployment rose from 10.9 percent in December 1932 to 11.5 percent in December 1934.5 T a b l e 33. — Percentage of engineers reporting u n em p loym ent 1 at end of 1 9 2 9 , 1 9 8 2 , and 1 9 3 4 , by age, year of graduation , and professional class Percentage unemployed on Dec. 31— 1929 Approximate age in 1934 of engineers and year of graduation 53 years of age and over, and graduates prior to 1905----------43 to 52 years of age, and graduates during 1905-14------------33 to 42 years of age, and graduates during 1915-24------------28 to 32 years of age, and graduates during 1925-29------------25 to 27 years of age, and graduates during 1930-32______ -. 23 to 24 years of age, and graduates during 1933-34_____- - _ Civil, Mechan Mining Chemi agricul tural, Electri ical and and cal and and cal indus metal ceramic archi trial lurgical tectural 0.7 .5 .5 .3 1.7 .9 .4 .3 2.2 .3 .3 .4 1.8 .6 .2 .6 3.6 2.2 1.3 .5 11.3 9.6 8.7 11.9 15.6 12.8 9.6 6.0 12.4 17.5 10.2 7.7 6.0 6.0 5.8 10.4 14.2 7.5 6.2 7.5 6.1 10.7 1932 53 years of age and over, and graduates prior to 1905----------43 to 52 years of age, and graduates during 1905-14________ 33 to 42 years of age, and graduates during 1915-24________ 28 to 32 years of age, and graduates during 1925-29________ 25 to 27 years of age, and graduates during 1930-32-----------23 to 24 years of age, and graduates during 1933-34____ - 3.9 7.0 5.0 8.8 15.8 11.2 8.8 8.9 10.2 14.7 10.0 7.1 6.6 9.9 20.2 1934 53 years of age and over, and graduates prior to 1905----------43 to 52 years of age, and graduates during 1905-14....... ........ 33 to 42 years of age, and graduates during 1915-24________ 28 to 32 years of age, and graduates during 1925-29------------25 to 27 years of age, and graduates during 1930-32________ 23 to 24 years of age, and graduates during 1933-34------ ___ 5.9 4.1 4.4 5.5 4.9 11.9 12.3 9.0 8.9 9,2 11.5 18.0 11.4 7.3 5.5 5.3 6.9 14.6 i Includes direct relief and work relief. Evidence of the improved employment opportunity for younger men between the end of 1932 and 1934 is also shown in the smaller per centage of unemployment among the most recent graduates. M ore than a sixth6 of those graduating in 1931-32 were unemployed on December 31, 1932. On December 31, 1934, the plight of the new comer was still hard, worse than that of any of the group that had 5 The criticism has been made that the percentages of unemployment shown in the table relate to the indefinite group of those “ 53 and over.” The figures would presumably be smaller if the group were closed at 62 years of age. It is quite certain from the contour of the percentages both in 3932 and 1934 that the per centage continues to rise with age. It is also certain that the high percentages shown are due to the per sistence of unemployment when it occurs, rather than to a rising risk of unemployment. « It is impossible to say how much more; the 16.6 percent, shown in the table, includes 193 Ograduates as well. UNEMPLOYMENT, ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 -3 4 97 “ experience” ;7 nevertheless, the percentage of unemployment among those graduating in 1933-34 was 13.9, a better record than the corre sponding one in 1932 for 1931-32 graduates. These findings are borne out by table 33, in which the same type of information is presented for each of the five professional groups of engineers. In each of these groups, with the possible exception of the chemical engineers, the percentage of unemployment at all three dates was higher for those who were 53 years of age or over in 1934 than for the younger men who entered the profession in the period 1925-29. In chemical engineering, long experience appears to have been particularly valued. A smaller proportion of the chemical engineers in the group over 50 years of age in 1932 were unemployed in December 1932 than in any of the other age classes. The brunt of unemploy ment in this profession was being borne by those who graduated in 1925 or later. Chemical engineers graduating from 1905 to 1932 had only a slightly more favorable experience as regards unemploy ment than those of similar ages in the other professions. In the period from 1932 to 1934, the percentage of unemployment among chemical engineers was materially reduced among all groups graduat ing after 1905 but rose in the case of the oldest group. It is note worthy, however, that the proportion of unemployment was only half as great among the oldest group of chemical engineers in 1934 as in any of the other professional classes, and was only slightly larger than the proportion of unemployment among the younger chemical engineers. In electrical engineering, also, engineers who entered the profession in 1925 or later were more likely to be unemployed in December 1932 than were those who entered the profession before 1925. But in December 1934, the percentage of the oldest electrical engineers who were unemployed was about the same as that for the group graduating in the period 1925-29. From December 1932 to 1934, the total percentage of electrical engineers who were unemployed declined, but there was a rise from 10.0 percent to 11.4 percent among engineers in the oldest group. This group reported twice as large a proportion of unemployment in December 1934 as did the group graduating during the period 1925-29. Mechanical engineering shows a somewhat similar pattern to that just described for electrical engineering, except that unemployment declined slightly from 1932 to 1934 in the oldest group. Mining and metallurgical engineering followed closely the general trend in 1929 and 1932. In 1934, however, unemployment was lowest in the group 33 to 42 years of age, and rose somewhat in the group over 42 years of age. Among those 53 years of age and over, 7 Note, however, that the engineering graduate had a better opportunity of employment than the general male population of an industrial State. Of the male population of Massachusetts 21-24 years of age who either had a job or were looking for a job on Jan. 1,1934, 33.7 percent were unemployed. 98 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS----ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 -3 4 14.2 percent were unemployed— a substantially higher figure than for this age group in any of the other professional classes. The relationship of unemployment to age in the case of the civil, agricultural, and architectural group of engineers followed the general trend in 1929 to 1932. This class, however, showed less improvement in employment opportunity between 1932 and 1934 than did the other professional classes. The fact that the general percentage of unemployment continued to rise for civil engineers led to a distinctive pattern of unemployment by age groups for this profession in 1934. The largest percentage of unemployment was still found among those who had come to the profession most recently, but from December 1932 to December 1934 there was a decline in unemployment among those who graduated between 1925 and 1932. The extent of unem ployment in 1934 remained unchanged among civil engineers 33 to 42 years of age, but increased among those 43 years of age and over. In 1932 all classes of engineers who attempted to enter the profes sion in the period 1930-32 had similar experiences. About 15 percent of these chemical engineers, civil engineers, and mechanical engineers were unemployed on December 31, 1932, as were 17.5 percent of the mining and metallurgical engineers and 20.0 percent of the electrical engineers. The proportions of those unemployed declined more in this age group from 1932 to 1934 than in any other age group. By 1934, the unemployment of these newcomers was essentially the same as for those who graduated prior to 1929. Civil engineers alone showed a relatively small improvement as regards unemployment for those graduating from 1930-32. It will be recalled (table 30) that the percentage of unemployment for all civil engineers rose from 10.0 in December 1932 to 10.2 in 1934. A rise in the percentage unemployed in 1934 occurred for those over 43 years of age; and was as great in 1934 as in 1932, for those who were 33 to 42 years old. Those graduating in the years 1925-29 showed a decline, in proportion unemployed, from 10.2 to 9.2 percent. Addi tions to the ranks of civil engineers were mainly from among the newcomers, in the two depression years of 1932 and 1934. Unemploy ment among the 1930-32 graduates fell from 14.7 to 11.5 percent. In summary, this analysis of trends shows (1) that there was a distinct improvement in the unemployment status of professional engineers between December 31, 1932, and December 31, 1934; (2) that there were but slight differences in the incidence of unemploy ment among the various professional classes in 1932 and, except for civil engineers, in 1934; (3) that engineers who had received post graduate degrees fared better than engineers with other types of training; and (4) that as between older and younger engineers, the former not only felt the effect of the drop in business activity earlier than the latter but unquestionably were still lagging, at least until UNEMPLOYMENT, ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 -3 4 99 December 31, 1934, in the return to professional activity. In general it may be said that in this period of contraction of business activity, the inexperienced newcomer had greater difficulty in securing a pro fessional status than any other class, that those with 5 to 25 years’ experience fared best as regards unemployment, and that there was little difference (except in the case of chemical engineers) in the per centages of unemployment at a given date between those with less than 5 years’ experience and those with more than 25 years’ experience. In a period of expansion the younger and the more inexperienced engineers have a definite advantage. The normal method of recruit ment at the bottom is followed. It is to be noted from table 33 that by December 31, 1934, the percentage of unemployment in all professional classes showed little variation between the age groups that entered the profession as late as 1932 and those with an upper limit of 53 years of age. However, there is evidence that in the 4 largest professional classes unemployment continued to be relatively high among the group of engineers who were more than 53 years of age in 1934.8 Incidence of Unemployment, 1930 to 1934, Inclusive The preceding discussion traced the general trend of unemployment which prevailed among professional engineers over the period from December 31, 1929, to December 31, 1934. The percentages referred to the number unemployed as of given dates. They gave no measure either of the number who were unemployed at other times during the 5-year period or of the length of unemployment. Light is shed on these points by the data obtained as to the period of unemployment, i. e., the number of months during which the engineers were on work relief 9 or were without work of any kind. The data in this section, therefore, afford a measure of the gross or over-all period of displace ment from regular employment, without regard to the mitigating effects of the various types of relief. 8 While it is theoretically possible that part of this larger unemployment for the oldest group shown may be due to retired members of the profession who have maintained membership in engineering societies, the extent of the difference appears to indicate in fact that even in 1929 there was greater unemployment among the more experienced engineers. The method of sampling used involved the compilation of a mailing list from the past and present member ship of engineering societies. Undoubtedly, there are a certain number of retired engineers who reported unemployment in reply to the question as to type of employment. As there was no specific heading, “ retirement,” a retired engineer had the alternative, in replying to the question on employment, of reporting himself as unemployed, reporting himself engaged in nonengineering work, or leaving the question un answered. From the internal evidence in table 31 and in other tables it appears that retirement is not a sufficiently important factor to explain the differences in the percentages of unemployment as between the younger and the older engineers. This is most convincingly illustrated in tables 34 and 35 which show, not the number of unemployed at a particular date, but the total number unemployed in the 5-year period following Jan. 1, 1930. In these tables, the percentage for the oldest group of engineers, is no larger than it is for the group aged 43-52, and is smaller than the percentage for any of the younger engineers. Further more, the consistency of the movements shown in table 32 would indicate that retirement is not a dominating influence. 9 Excluding work on P. W. A. projects and in nonrelief administrative positions in the public service. 100 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 -3 4 M ore than 34 percent of all the engineers reporting were unem ployed at one time or another within these 5 years, as against about 10 percent who were unemployed on December 31, 1932. The per centage who reported unemployment at some time during the 5 years, January 1, 1930, to December 31, 1934, with a classification by age and type of education, is shown in table 34. For all graduates com bined, including those with postgraduate degrees, no less than 33.9 percent experienced unemployment. This percentage differs but slightly from the general average of 35.4 and 35.6 percent, respectively, for engineers who did not complete a college course and for engineers with a noncollegiate technical-school training.10 This slightly lower incidence of unemployment for the “ other” engineers is explicable on two grounds: (1) As a statistical “ freak,” arising out of slight differ ences in the age distribution of graduates and “ other” engineers, and (2) the longer experience record of “ other” engineers, for the graduate sample is especially heavily weighted by newcomers to the profession during the depression period 1930-34. For each particular age group shown in the table there is a slightly higher percentage of unemploy ment. It is evident from this table that unemployment was greatest among the newcomers to the profession and decreased with the age of the engineer. In all professional groups there appeared an age beyond which there was apparently a common risk of unemployment. (Table 35.) That age varies among the several professional classes. For civil engineers it was 43 years, whereas for electrical, and mechanical and industrial engineers it occurred after 33 years of age.11 It will be noted that in the case of the 2 youngest age groups the percentages affected by unemployment are practically the same for all 3 types of education, with roughly half of the engineers who entered the profession during the depression period reporting some period of unemployment. These findings seem definitely to extend the conclusions reached earlier as regards the influence of educational background. Table 31 showed less unemployment in 1932 and 1934 among those with post graduate degrees than among those with first degrees, but there were no decisive differences in the over-all figures between first-degree graduates and “ other” engineers. It may now be stated that this was due to the age composition of the two groups, for when age is considered (table 34) the older college graduate does appear to have an advantage. 10 The table does not show the percentage of unemployment among engineers with only a secondary-school education, for their number was too small to warrant classification by age. The percentage of unemploy ment among all such engineers was 22.6. 11These are the ages as of the end of the 5-year period, 1930-34. UNEMPLOYMENT, ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 -3 4 101 T a b l e 34 .— Percentage distribution of all engineers reporting a period of gross 1 unemployment , 1930 to 1 9 3 4 , by age 2 and type of education [Figures adjusted as explained on p. 34] All graduating classes_____ __ _____________ ______ __________ College grad uates: Percent age reporting unemployment Age (in years) in 1934 Graduating class _ 33.9 Entered profession during 1930-34: Graduated in— 1933-34_________________________________ ____ _____________ _ 1930-32 ______________________________ ______ ________ Entered profession in 1929 or earlier: Graduated in— 1925-29 ___________________________________________ ____ 1915-24 ____________________________________ 1905-14 ____________________________________ __ Prior to 1905_______________________________________________ 23-24 25-27 47 1 53.5 28-32 33-42 43-52 53+ 36. 0 27.1 23! 8 23! 5 “ Other” engineers with— Year of birth Age (in years) in 1934 College course incomplete Noncollegiate technical course Percentage reporting unemployment All ages 35.4 35.6 20-24 47.9 48.2 25-27 28-34 35-39 40+ 50.0 41.6 33.4 30.4 47.6 43.8 34.1 32.3 - ______________ ________________________________ Entered profession during 1930-34: Born in 1910-14 ____ _____ ______________________ Entered profession in 1929 or earlier: Born in— 1907-9 ________________________________ ___ 1900-8 - ......................... ......................... ............ 1895-99 . ________________________ _______ ________ Prior to 1895 _ ___________________________________ i Includes direct relief and work relief. » It will be noted that the age groups of “ other” engineers shown in the table differ slightly from those shown in table 36. The latter, however, correspond to those shown in appendix F, p. 229, table 1. This difference is due to the fact that the age groups in table 36 were used in the original tabulation of the data. The age groups in tables 34 and 35 were derived from the former by hand tabulation to obtain a better comparison by age with the graduates 25-27 years of age. For further consideration of the incidence of unemployment by age, the data in table 34 are shown for two distinct groups of engineers, those entering the profession during the depression years 1930-34 and the four older groups who had entered the profession prior to 1930. These four older groups had a common experience as regards the period during which they were exposed to the risk of unemployment. On the other hand, the younger engineers were exposed to a shorter period of risk, a factor which is of great importance when the length of their employment is considered. They were also subjected to the necessity of making their way into the profession under singularly difficult conditions. Length of exposure appears to have been a fac tor even as regards the general incidence of unemployment, for a slightly larger proportion of those who graduated in the period 1930-32 were unemployed during this 5-year period than was the case for those graduating in 1933-34. 2 8 5 2 0 8 ° — 4 1 ------- 8 102 EM P L O Y M E N T , EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 - 3 4 T a b l e 3 5 . — Percentage distribution of graduate and college course incomplete en gineers reporting gross1 unemploym ent , 1930 to 1 9 3 4 » by age2 and professional class [Figures adjusted as explained on p. 34.] Percentage reporting unemployment Graduating class or year of birth All graduating classes_________ Age (in years) in 1934 Graduate engineers Mining Chemical Civil, ag ricultural Electri Mechan and and ical and archi cal met ceramic and industrial tectural allurgical ________ Entered profession during 1930-34: Graduated in— 1933-34__________________________ 1930-32__________________________ Entered profession in 1929 or earlier: Graduated in— 1925-29__________________________ 1915-24_________________ _________ 1905-14__________________________ Prior to 1905...................................... 23-24 25-27 28-32 l 33-42 f 43-52 l7 53+ 29.2 38.0 31.6 31.0 30.2 40.3 44.3 55.1 59.7 48.9 54.7 40.7 48.5 45.6 54.7 O ff f 1 * 11 1 0. \ 41.9 34.4 26.8 27.0 31.3 19.6 17.2 17.1 34.2 25.4 1 24.7 \ 23.3 I 23.9 OQ Z a. C 33.7 Engineers with college course incomplete All ages-------------------------------------------------Entered profession during 1930-34: Born in 1910-14.. ----------------------------- 20-24 Entered profession in 1929 or earlier: Born in— 1907-9___________________________ 25-27 1900-6. __________________________ 28-34 1895-99__________________________ 35-39 Prior to 1895_________________ _ 40+ 00 39.1 ___ 00 (*) 55.9 00 *41.8 00 00 00 00 00 60.3 46.4 37.8 33.3 00 00 00 00 441.1 436.7 429.3 426. 3 00 00 00 00 431.2 00 1Includes direct relief and work relief. aIt will be noted that the age groups of “ other” or nongraduate engineers shown in the table differ slightly from those shown in table 36. The latter, however, correspond to those shown in Appendix F, p. 229, table 1. This difference is due to the fact that the age groups in table 36 were used in the original tabulation of the data. The age groups in tables 34 and 35 were derived from the former by hand tabulation to obtain better comparison by age with the graduates 25-27 years of age. 3Included with mechanical and industrial. 4Includes chemical and ceramic, electrical, and mining and metallurgical. In the case of the four older groups, all entering the profession before 1930, the largest percentage of unemployment occurred among those who entered slightly before the beginning of the depression. There appears to have been no greater incidence of unemployment among the engineers 53 years of age and over than there was among those 43 to 52 years of age. Therefore, relating this analysis to the preced ing discussion of table 33, it can only be concluded that the higher percentage of unemployment for the oldest age groups as of December 31, 1932, and as of December 31, 1934, is due not to the more frequent occurrence of unemployment but to the greater length of the period of unemployment when loss of position occurs. These findings as regards the extent of unemployment among engi neers in general are confirmed by analysis of the separate professional UNEMPLOYMENT, ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 -3 4 103 classes of engineers.12 Thus, table 35 shows that for the country as a whole, approximately two-fifths of the civil engineers reported some unemployment within the 5 years covered, whereas slightly less than one-third so reported in the other professional classes. Of the engi neers with college degrees the lowest proportion was 29.2 percent, for chemical and ceramic engineers; the highest was 38.0 percent, for civil, agricultural, and architectural engineers. Among those with an incomplete college course, 39.1 percent of the civil engineering group reported unemployment, whereas only 31.2 percent of the remaining engineers so reported. A t all ages civil engineering showed the greatest unemployment. Thus, among engineers graduating in 1930 to 1932, 59.7 percent of the civil engineers reported unemployment at some time during the 5 years covered. The next highest percentage, 54.7, was found among electrical, and mining and metallurgical engineers. Among civil engineers graduating prior to 1914, approximately 27 percent reported unemployment, whereas approximately 24 percent of the mechanical and industrial, and mining and metallurgical engineers so reported. So also examination of those with an incomplete college course shows unemployment persistently higher for civil engineers than for other professional groups in every age category. The unemployment experience of civil engineers graduating in 1914 or earlier differed only slightly from that found in the case of mechani cal and industrial, and mining and metallurgical engineers. In elec trical engineering13 and chemical engineering the proportion unem ployed was distinctly less among the older engineers, amounting to about 17 percent in the case of electrical engineers and to less than 15 percent14 in the case of chemical engineers. 12It should be noted that in the case of all graduate engineers, it was necessary to make certain combina tions of professional classes. Thus, a small number of ceramic engineers were combined with chemical engineers. Civil, agricultural, and architectural engineers were combined, but the group was dominated by civil engineers. Mechanical and industrial engineers were combined, as were also mining and metal lurgical engineers. In the case of the “ other” engineers there were too few cases of noncollegiate technicalschool graduates to warrant tabulation of the period of unemployment by both age and professional class; hence, only the data for those whose college course was incomplete were tabulated. This group has been divided to distinguish civil, agricultural, and architectural engineers from mechanical and all other classes of engineers. Inasmuch as the unemployment experience of civil engineers differed from that of all other classes, this grouping into two categories makes possible general comparisons between the unemployment experience of graduate engineers and those with an incomplete college course. The percentages of these various professional classes of engineers who reported unemployment ajt some time during the 5-year period, 1930-34, are shown in table 35 by the age groupings heretofore shown. 13 The high general average for electrical engineers shown in the table is due to an especially high rate among the newcomers to the profession. n The figure of 15.1 percent for chemical engineers covers all those graduating prior to 1924. Table 31 suggests that this figure would be slightly lower if it referred only to the graduates of the pre-war years. 104 E M P L O Y M E N T , EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 - 3 4 Periods of Unemployment, 1930 to 1934, Inclusive “ Gross unemployment” is used in this section to cover periods of work relief or periods without work of any kind. The figures show the median periods of unemployment.15 Table 36 shows the median periods of unemployment, by age, edu cation, and professional classes, during the 5-year period. In con nection with the age classifications shown, it is important to remember the period of exposure to the possibility of unemployment. Thus, to the hazard of unemployment, engineers graduating from college in 1933 had a maximum exposure of 18 months and those graduating in 1934 a maximum exposure of 6 months, before the close of the period T a b l e 3 6 . — M edian period of gross 1 unemploym ent , 1980 to 1984* by age, type of education , and professional class [Figures adjusted as explained on p. 34] Period of gross unemployment (in months) of— Age Graduating class years) in 1934 1933-34_____________________ 1930-32___________________ Entered profession in 1929 or earlier: Graduated in— 1925-29___________________ 1915-24___________________ 1905-14___________________ Prior to 1905______________ Civil, ag Mining AD Chemical ricultural, Elec Mechani and and cal and and archi trical industrial classes! ceramic metal tectural lurgical 12.2 9.8 12.8 12.1 12.1 13.7 23-24 25-27 7.5 11.9 7.0 10.6 7.9 11.9 7.7 13.2 7.1 11.1 6.0 11.9 28-32 33-42 43-52 53+ 12.1 13.4 } 17.8 } 23.1 11.1 \f 11.4 /\ 12.2 12.9 17.0 22.9 12.4 14.1 20.7 25.3 12.0 15.2 } 18.5 } 22.2 17.4 All graduating classes-------------------Entered profession during 1930-34: Graduated in— Graduate engineers 11.7 Period of gross unemployment (in months) of— Other engineers Year of birth Age (in years) in 1934 College course incomplete All classes All ages------ -------------------- ---------------Entered profession during 1930-34: Born in— 1910-14_____________ ______ _____ 1905-9__________________________ Entered profession in 1929 or earlier: Born in— 1900-94_________________________ 1895-9— _______________________ Prior to 1895____________________ NoncolleCivil, ag giate tech ricultural, Mechanical nical course and archi and others tectural 16.3 15.8 16.9 17.3 20-24 25-29 12.5 14.0 13.8 13.9 11.4 14.3 15.0 15.3 30-34 35-39 40+ 14.2 14.6 19.4 13.2 14.1 18.3 15.1 15.3 22.0 16.0 14.7 19.2 1 Includes direct relief and work relief. 15 In other words, the middle point, half of the engineers having had a longer period and half a shorter period of unemployment. U N EM PLO YM EN T, ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 - 3 4 105 studied (Dec. 31, 1934). On the other hand, all four groups of engineers who graduated prior to 1929 were exposed to the possibility of depression unemployment for the full period of 5 years. There are significant differences in the period of unemployment as among the various age groups of engineers and as among engineers with different types of educational background. There are real differences among the several classes of engineers, but professional class had a less marked influence on the average period of unemploy ment than either age or educational background. For the country as a whole, as indicated in table 36, the median period of unemployment for engineers who were college graduates was 12.2 months. For engineers who did not complete their college course, it was 16.3 months and for those with a noncollegiate technical-school education, it was 17.3 months.16 The influence of educational back ground appears to be persistent whether the data are classified for each of the professional classes or for all engineers combined. How ever, the difference of over 4 months in the median period shown in table 36 as between all college graduates without regard to age and all those whose college course was incomplete exaggerates the spread. It may be that there was no spread in the case of the older engineers; the impossibility of making identical age groupings prevents any other conclusion than that, in the case of older engineers, educational background is no longer a determining factor. Comparison of the median period of unemployment in similar brackets beginning with the engineers who were approximately 30 years of age in 1934 indicates that unemployment lasted only 1 or 2 months longer in the case of those with an incomplete college record. Although in the case of the two youngest groups of engineers the college graduate appears to have had some advantage, there is reason to believe that the difference between an average period of 7% months for the graduates of the classes of 1933-34 and months for those 20 to 24 years of age with an incomplete college record is due in large part to the fact that the latter group had a longer work history and consequently a longer period of exposure. For civil engineers classified on an age basis there was also a persistently longer period of unemployment for those with an incomplete college record. As between the two types of “ other” or nongraduate engineers, the difference of 1 month (i. e., between 16.3 months and 17.3 months) in the average appears to arise from the experience only of the younger engineers. For those over 35 years of age in 1934, there was no difference. In the younger age groups the differences ranged from 1.3 months to 2.5 months, and in all cases, those with an incomplete college course had the shorter period of unemployment. 18 No figure is shown in the table for engineers with a secondary-school education, for its significance is not certain. The median period for such engineers was 12.4 months. 106 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 -3 4 The average length of the period of unemployment increased with age. Thus, the youngest group exposed to the full 5-year risk (those graduating in 1925 to 1929) had a median period of unemployment of 12.1 months. The next group of engineers, those graduating between 1915 and 1924, showed an increase of only 1.3 months in the period of unemployment. For those with an incomplete college course, who were 30 to 34 years of age in 1934, the average period of unemploy ment for the 5 years as a whole was 14.2 months and for those 35 to 39 years of age 14.6 months. Whether the differential for noncollegiate technical-school graduates of these ages is real, or is due to certain peculiarities of the sample, cannot be said; but for all professional classes of engineers there was also a slight increase in the average period of unemployment among those who graduated before 1925 as compared with those who graduated later. B y and large, however, those engineers who were 30 to 40 years of age and became unemployed were unemployed for 12 to 14 months, but within these limits age was not an important factor. It is interesting to note that the engineer who entered the profession during the period 1930-32 had an average period of unemployment which was almost identical with that shown for the engineers who had entered just prior to the depression. This was true, in spite of the fact that the younger men had a shorter period of exposure to unem ploym ent; their lack of experience obviously militated against their absorption. The severity of unemployment increased rapidly in the case of engineers who were more than 43 years of age in 1934. The median period of unemployment for those engineers 43 to 52 years of age who were unemployed was 17.8 months. Among the engineers 53 years of age and over it was 23.1 months. For the “ other” engineers 40 years of age and over, the average period of unemployment was slightly more than 19 months as against about 14% months for those who were 30 to 40. This rapid increase in the length of the average period of unemployment holds also with reference to all of the separate professional classifications.. In the case of electrical engineers, the average rose from 14.1 months in the case of those who were 33 to 42 years of age to 25.3 months for those who were over 53 years of age. For mechanical and industrial engineers, the increase was from 15.2 to 22.2 months, and in the case of civil engineers from 12.9 to 22.9 months. In general, therefore, it may be said that the average period of unemployment for graduate engineers tended to increase from about 1 year in the case of those who graduated from 1925 to 1929 to almost 2 years for those who graduated prior to 1905. The older engineer suffered from unemployment because of its greater length when it occurred rather than because of its greater frequency. Though the U N E M P L O Y M E N T , ENG IN E E R IN G PROFESSION, 19 2 9 - 3 4 107 proportion of those who became unemployed over the 5-year period was only two-thirds as great in the case of the oldest group as it was in the case of the youngest group to enter the profession prior to 1930, when unemployment did occur it tended to last twice as long in the case of the older engineer. The averages for all graduate engineers without regard to age ranged from 9.8 months for chemical and ceramic engineers to 13.6 months for mining and metallurgical engineers. For the three largest classes the range was from 12.1 months in the case of mechan ical and industrial engineers to 12.8 months for civil engineers. Those who graduated in 1933 to 1934 had an average period of unemploy ment of 6 to 8 months. Comparison of the severity of unemployment among the professional classes is confied to those four age groups that had entered the profession prior to 1930, for averages could not be shown for all age classes of chemical and ceramic engineers, as the number of those over 33 years of age was too small to allow of subdivision. It is apparent, however, that the average period of unemployment was not more than two-thirds as long for chemical and ceramic engineers as for the various other classes. The period of unemployment of mining and metallurgical engineers was probably somewhat shorter in the various age classifications than it was for the three larger professional classes.17 The general averages indicate comparatively little difference, as regards the period of unemployment, civil, electrical, and mechanical and industrial engineers. Although unemployment occurred more frequently among civil engineers than in any other engineering class, its severity was slightly less than for the other classes. The median periods of unemployment which have been cited show clearly enough the differences among the various groups. Long as these average periods were, they still fall short of conveying the full picture. This may be gathered from table 37, which shows the per centage of engineers who reported varying periods of unemployment. It covers only engineers with college degrees received in 1929 or earlier years, without regard to professional class. Of this group, 6,965 engineers reported that they were out of work at some time between January 1, 1930, and December 31, 1934. In slightly more than one-fifth of the cases, they were unemployed for less than 6 months; another fifth were out of work for from 6 months to a year. T o a limited extent, those reporting unemployment of less than 6 months may have reported incidental and short periods between jobs. However, the median period of unemployment over these 5 years for It will be recalled that the average for all mining and metallurgical engineers was 13.6 months, higher than the average in any of the other professional classes. It appears from the detailed figures with reference to the periods of unemployment classified by age that in each age group the three larger professional classes showed either an equal severity or a greater severity. 108 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 -3 4 those graduates who became unemployed was 14.7 months, and larger numbers were out of work for much longer periods. In fact, 800 engineers (11.5 percent of the total number becoming unemployed) of these particular graduating classes were out of work for 3 years or more. T a b l e 37 .— Percentage d istribu tion o f en gineers graduating fr o m college p rio r to 1 9 8 0 , b y p eriod o f u n em p lo ym en t Year of graduation Total report Percentage whose reported unemployment (in months) was— ing unemploy ment at any Total time during report 1930-34 12 24 42 30 36 18 48 Un 6 and and ing in and and and and and and survey der under under under under under under under over 12 Per 6 Num cent 36 42 18 24 30 48 ber age All years prior to 1930. 24,853 6,965 100.0 21.0 21.6 16.5 12.8 9.5 7.1 5.1 3.2 3.2 1925-29______________ 6,499 1915-24______________ 8, 298 1905-14______________ 6, 602 Prior to 1905 ------------ 3, 454 2,340 2,245 1, 570 810 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 23.9 23.3 17.7 12.8 25.7 22.9 18.8 11.7 19.4 16.1 14.0 14.4 13.4 11.4 13.8 13.1 7.9 9.4 11.4 10.6 4.0 7.3 8.7 12.0 3.2 4.4 7.2 8.3 1.6 3.0 3.7 7.0 .9 2.2 4.7 10.1 Unemployment of less than 6 months was reported by 23.9 percent of those graduating in the period 1925-29 who became unemployed, as against only 12.8 percent of those graduating prior to 1905. This tendency to shorter periods of unemployment among the younger graduates is equally marked among the group out of work for periods of 6 to 12 months. The percentages of the unemployed who were out for 18 to 24 months show no differences among the age groups, largely because this is a turning point in the distribution. In groups with the longer periods of unemployment the percentage for the older unemployed engineers is consistently higher than for the younger ones. Thus, at the extreme, only 0.9 percent of the unemployed engineers of the classes of 1925-29 were idle for 48 months or more, whereas 10.1 percent of those graduating prior to 1905 had more than a 4-year period of unemployment. Influence of Regional Location on Unemployment The data tabulated on a regional basis are given in table 38 for all first-degree engineering graduates (excluding those with postgraduate and nonengineering degrees) in the three professional classes of civil, electrical, and mechanical engineering.18 There were too few cases to warrant regional tabulations for mining and metallurgical engineers and chemical and ceramic engineers; neither were tabulations justified in the case of engineers with various types of educational background is Civil engineering as here tabulated does not include the few agricultural and architectural engineers reporting whose inclusion would have complicated the task without modifying the results. So also mechani cal engineers do not include industrial engineers. 109 U N EM PLO YM EN T, ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 - 3 4 other than college graduations. Furthermore, in the regional 19 comparisons, work relief has been excluded, leaving only those periods during which the engineers reporting had no work of any sort; these periods have been termed “ net unemployment.” 20 It will be noted in table 38 that the range for the three professional classes combined was from 20.7 percent in the District of Columbia to 37.9 percent in the East South Central region. For the country as a whole, approximately one out of every three of these college graduate engineers was unemployed at one time or another during the 5-year period. T able 3 8 . — N e t 1 unem p loym ent^ 1 9 2 9 to 1 9 8 4 >am on g first-d egree graduate en gineers reporting, by region and p r ofessio n a l class [Figures adjusted as explained on p. 34] Region Professional class Dis East West New United trict of South Moun South South Eng Cen Atlan Cen tain States Co land tic lumbia tral tral West East Mid North Pacific North dle At Cen Cen lantic tral tral Percentage of first-degree graduates reporting net unemployment All three classes____ 33.2 20.7 37.9 34.2 29.4 30.9 32.8 29.8 29.1 33.3 37.1 Civil_______________ Electrical__________ Mechanical_________ 35.6 31.1 31.3 18.1 29.7 19.6 41.3 36.7 31.0 31.6 40.6 35.9 29.7 34.1 24.9 33.5 30.8 26.6 36.3 29.3 31.1 30.9 28.6 28.3 28.9 28.3 30.6 36.8 32.2 30.3 45.2 30.6 34.8 i Median period (in months) of net unemployment All three classes......... 11.3 7.9 9.3 10.7 9.4 10.4 11.7 10.2 11.1 12.2 12.1 Civil_______________ Electrical----------------Mechanical_________ 11.2 11.4 11.4 8.4 6.7 5.5 9.0 10.4 9.5 9.9 11.8 11.0 8.7 10.5 10.0 10.3 10.5 11.0 12.0 11.3 11.5 9.5 12.5 10.2 11.1 10.7 11.3 12.0 12.7 11.8 12.8 11.5 12.0 i Excludes direct relief and work relief. In the various professional classes, unemployment occurred less frequently among engineers in the District of Columbia than among engineers reporting from other districts. Thus, 18.1 percent of the civil engineers in the District of Columbia had some unemployment during the 5 years, whereas in no other area did unemployment occur in less than 28.9 percent of the cases. For mechanical engineers, the District of Columbia reports showed 19.6 percent; the next lowest figure was 24.9 percent in the West South Central States. Only in 19 It is necessary to assume that the region from which the engineers reported is the region to which the various items reported are to be allocated. This is a safe assumption as regards employment status as of December 31, 1934. Migration makes it less valid as regards status in 1929. The error is probably not so great as to warrant disregarding possible regional classification. 2° The extent of the distortion introduced by this more limited definition of unemployment is not great enough to be serious. For engineers with degrees in the United States as a whole, 32.0 percent reported a period of net unemployment, while 33.9 percent reported a period of gross unemployment, a difference of only 1.9 percent. Further, the median period of gross unemployment (unemployment and work relief) was 12.2 months. The net period of unemployment (excluding any time reported on work relief) was 11.3 months. 110 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS---- ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 -3 4 the case of electrical engineers was unemployment among engineers in the District of Columbia approximately equal to that in other regions. In this profession 29.7 percent of those reporting from the District of Columbia had had some unemployment in the 5 years covered by the study. Outside the District of Columbia there was also a rather marked range in the frequency of unemployment reported from the various regions in the several professional groups. Thus, in the case of civil engineers, the range was from 28.9 percent in the Pacific Coast States to 45.2 percent in the Middle Atlantic States, electrical engineers ranged from 28.3 percent in the Pacific region to 40.6 in the Mountain region, and, finally, mechanical engineers ranged from 24.9 percent in the West South Central region to 35.9 percent in the Mountain region. The most significant fact is the great extent of unemployment among engineers in all geographical divisions. The regional differ ences in the rate of unemployment among the various classes of engi neers are not sufficiently consistent to order all of the regions from high to low. The District of Columbia, as noted, had a consistently low percentage of unemployment. It may be noted further that engineers in each professional class reporting from the West North Central, the South Atlantic, and Pacific regions had a percentage of unemployment below the national average. For the three professional classes combined, the range and the length of unemployment (disregarding period of work relief) was from 7.9 months in the District of Columbia to 12.2 months in the East North Central region (table 38). Civil engineers showed unemployment ranging from 8.4 months in the District of Columbia to 12.8 months in the Middle Atlantic region; electrical engineers from 6.7 months in the District of Columbia to 10.4 months in the East South Central region, and to 12.7 months in the East North Central States. For mechanical engineers, the difference between the average of 5.5 months in the District of Colum bia and that of 9.5 months in the East South Central States, the next lowest region, was especially great. The highest average for mechnical engineers was 12.0 months in the Middle Atlantic region. The similarities in the lengths of the periods of net unemployment are more marked than any consistent series of differences among the regions. In general, the average period of net unemployment was longer in the Middle Atlantic, New England, and East North Central regions, whereas in the three Southern regions and the District of Columbia the average tended to be less than the general average for the country. The regional analysis of the data relating to unemployment was undertaken originally to establish possible variations of a regional character. The differences shown for the individual professional UNEMPLOYMENT, ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 -3 4 111 classes are large enough to deserve attention. If, for example, this had been a study of civil engineers alone, the spread in the incidence of net unemployment between 28.9 percent shown in the Pacific region and 45.2 percent shown in the Middle Atlantic States would have justified the regional break-down and must lead to the con clusion that there were pronounced regional differences. So, also, the span in the average period of net unemployment for civil engineers from 8.7 months in the W est South Central area to 12.8 months in the M iddle Atlantic States is a considerable one. These tables, as has been pointed out, do develop a few outstanding regional differences as regards the incidence and severity of unemployment for the three professional classes analyzed. They do not present a clear-cut picture of large regional differences for engineers in general. Geographical influences are certainly less consistent than those which have been shown with reference to type of engineering, age, and educa tional background. The regional analysis has developed a confirmation of the national findings that is of importance. In any questionnaire study, there is always the possibility of an underlying selective bias that distin guishes the conditions of those who reply and those who fail to reply to the questionnaire. Even complete consistency in the results of successive analyses of small samples cannot establish the fact that no such bias exists. But the generalizations which have been drawn on the basis of national aggregates are substantially strengthened when it is found that they persist on a regional basis. Thus, as regards the median period of unemployment, we find that in at least five of the regions electrical engineers had a longer average period of net unemployment than either civil or mechanical engineers. In contrast to this, the averages for civil and mechanical engineers show negligible differences in four regions and differences of less than a month in two other regions. The influence of age on the frequency and length of unemployment cannot be shown in the same detail on a regional basis as was possible on a national basis. Such age breakdowns, however, are possible for the three large professional classes in the East North Central and the M iddle Atlantic States, the two regions with the largest number of reporting engineers. As regards the frequency of unemployment (table 39) the pattern is almost without exception the same as that described on a national basis in greater detail. Unemployment was most frequent among the engineers who graduated in 1930-32 and was slightly less frequent for those who graduated in 1933-34 and had, therefore, only been in the professional market for a maximum period of 18 months. In both regions and in all three professional classes, unemployment occurred less frequently among engineers who graduated prior to 1925 than 112 E M P L O Y M E N T , EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 - 3 4 among those who graduated in 1925-29. But even with these relatively small groups, at least one out of five was unemployed at one time or another within the 5-year period. This was the lowest ratio and occurred in the case of electrical engineers who graduated prior to 1925 and reported from the East-North Central region. As regards the median period of net unemployment, the average was consistently higher for the engineers who graduated prior to 1925 than it was for those who graduated between 1925 and 1929. It is also of interest to note the consistency as regards the period of un employment for each age group shown for these three professional classes in the two regions. T a b l e 39.— N e t 1 u n e m p lo ym en t , 1 9 2 9 to 1 9 8 4 , am on g first-d egree graduate en gineers rep o rtin g , b y reg io n , age, and p rofessio n a l class [Figures adjusted as explained on p. 34] East North Central region Graduating class and age in 1934 Electri cal Civil Mechan ical Middle Atlantic region Civil Electri cal Mechan ical Percentage of first-degree graduates reporting net unemployment A l l gradua ting classes Entered profession in period 1930-34: 1933-34 (23-24 years)________________ 1930-32 (25-27 years)________________ Entered profession prior to 1930: 1925-29 (28-32 years)________________ Prior to 1925 (33 years and over)___ _ 46.2 58.9 43.5 52.3 34.5 45.5 57.8 64.8 51.9 48.1 43.8 45.6 39.8 28.9 32.7 19.9 34.0 23.8 56.0 37.1 28.7 21.9 36.3 30.5 Median period (in months) of net unemployment A l l graduating cla sses Entered profession in period 1930-34: 1933-34 (23-24 years)________________ 1930-32 (25-27 years)________________ Entered profession prior to 1930: 1925-29 (28-32 years)________________ Prior to 1925 (33 years and over)_____ 7.4 11.6 8.4 14.0 6.5 10.7 8.6 12.3 7.1 13.6 6.6 11.4 10.6 15.6 12.3 16.3 11.9 16.7 11.6 15.3 10.3 15.0 10.2 15.8 1 Excludes direct relief and work relief. Public Relief Among Professional Engineers, 1929 to 1934 Direct R elief 21 Consideration of the number of engineers reporting direct relief evidences the fact that in the majority of cases engineers survived without public assistance their periods of unemployment from 1930 to 1934. This was especially true of those who entered the profession prior to 1930. Thus, fewer than 1 percent of the engineers reported themselves to have been unemployed on December 31, 1929. At that time there 21 The data for direct relief and work relief at end of 1929, 1932, and 1934 are presented in appendix E, pp. 224-228, tables 1 to 3, inclusive. UNEMPLOYMENT, ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 -3 4 113 were no work-relief projects and none of the engineers reported them selves as on direct relief.22 Slightly more than 10 percent of all engi neers reported themselves as unemployed on December 31, 1932; 31 engineers reported themselves as on direct relief— less than one-tenth of 1 percent of all the engineers and only one-half of 1 percent of the number reporting unemployment. For the 5-year period as a whole, receipt of some direct relief was reported by 0.8 percent of all engineers with college degrees and about 2 percent of those who attended noncollegiate technical schools or who did not complete their college course.23 W o r k R e l ie f at End o f 1929, 1932, and 1934 Engineering training was required in the administration of many of the projects designed to benefit other groups in the community. There was also a large increase in nonrelief forms of public employment. This was of particular benefit to civil engineers, of whom 8.5 percent were employed by the Federal Government on December 31, 1929, while 18.0 percent were so employed on December 31, 1934 For civil engineers the increase in this form of employment was greater than the increase in work relief. Despite the increase in public employment, work-relief projects were the main source of assistance to those who were unemployed. On December 31, 1932, when slightly more than 10 percent of the engineers were unemployed, only 0.7 percent were on work relief. Two years later nearly 5 percent of all engineers were on work relief, which was approximately half of the total number of engineers unem ployed at that time. The reports for December 31, 1934, show striking differences in the extent of work relief as between civil engineers and the other profes sional groups. A t that time 6.2 percent of all civil, agricultural, and architectural engineers were on work relief, as compared with only 2.2 percent of all the other professional classes combined. The difference probably reflects chiefly the development of work programs that called especially for the civil engineer’s training; it also reflects the fact that the total amount of unemployment among civil engineers in their normal fields increased from 1932 to 1934, whereas it decreased in the other professional classes. The greater amount of work relief among civil engineers balanced their more widespread unemployment. There 22 In this survey, work relief is defined as emergency employment, usually made available on the basis of need, by such agencies as C. W. A., F. E. R. A., and W. P. A. It does not include engineering work on P. W. A. projects, which should have been reported either as a form of private employment or as Govern ment employment for those engineers working in the Public Works Administration itself. It also does not include engineers hired for strictly administrative work by the various relief administrations. There was some overreporting of work relief and a corresponding underreporting of public employment. Direct relief refers to direct financial or other assistance from any public authority. 23In New York City direct relief appears to have been more extensive through the Professional Engineers Committee on Unemployment than through public agencies. 114 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 192 9 - 3 4 was comparatively little difference between civil engineers and other professional groups as regards the net amount of unemployment on December 31, 1934; those entirely without work formed 4.0 percent of the civil engineers as compared with 5.1 percent of the other types combined. W ork relief was slightly more common among engineers without college degrees than among those who were college graduates. The situation with reference to direct relief has already been noted. Among the civil engineers 6.7 percent of the college graduates, as against 7.9 percent of the “ other’ ’ engineers, were on work relief on December 31, 1934. For the 5 years as a whole, 16.8 percent of the graduate civil, agricultural, and architectural engineers group reported a work-relief experience, whereas 19.6 percent of this same group of professional classes with an incomplete college course so reported.24 Comparison of the proportions receiving work relief at the close of 1932 and 1934 indicates that the older engineers were favored prior to 1932, while the more recent graduates were being favored in 1934. In 1932 the group graduating in the period 1930-32 had a larger pro portion of its membership unemployed than any of the other age classes, but the proportion of work relief (0.6 percent) was slightly less in December 1932 than the proportion among the older engineers (0.8 percent of those graduating from 1915-29 and 0.7 percent of those graduating prior to 1915). Among the civil, agricultural, and architectural engineers the difference in favor of the older groups was marked, work relief being reported for only 0.5 percent of those grad uating from 1930 to 1932 as against 1.0 percent of those graduating from 1915 to 1929. B y December 31, 1934, this situation had been reversed and there was a larger proportion on work relief among the recent college graduates than among those who had entered the pro fession prior to the depression. This was especially true of the civil engineers, for whom work relief on December 31, 1934, was reported for 9.4 percent of those graduating in 1933-34 and 8.3 percent of those graduating in 1930-32, in comparison to only 6.5 percent of those graduating in 1915-29 and 4.9 percent of those graduating prior to 1915. In the other professional groups no real differences between the early and late graduating classes appear. Of the engineers in pro fessions other than the civil-engineering group, who graduated during the years 1930-32, 2.2 percent were on work relief, but 3.2 percent of those graduating in 1933-34 reported work relief. In this connec tion it must be recalled that in 1934 there was a larger proportion 24 Separate figures are not available as regards the civil engineers who attended noncollegiate technical schools. Without regard to professional class, such engineers appear to have had a slightly lower workrelief experience than engineers with other types of educational background; 12.1 percent of all engineers from noncollegiate technical schools reported some period of work relief, whereas 14.0 percent of those with an incomplete college course and 12.4 percent of the college graduates so reported. U N EM PLO YM EN T, ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 - 3 4 115 of unemployed among those graduating in 1933-34 than among the other age groups. W o r k R e lie f, 1930 to 1934, In clu sive Thus far, in this section, the discussion of work relief has been confined to the reports for specific dates. For the 5-year period as a whole, a larger number of engineers had some experience with work relief. For all types of engineers, irrespective of background, about one-eighth reported some period of work relief, but very wide differ ences were shown in the extent of work relief for civil engineers and for other types of engineers. Thus, among engineers with an incom plete college course, 19.6 percent of the civil-engineering group reported some work relief, whereas only 7.5 percent of those in the other pro fessions considered together so reported. Among college graduates work relief was reported by 16.8 percent of the civil-engineering group and by only 10.9 percent of the mining and metallurgical engineers. For the other professional classes, the percentages were 8.3 for elec trical engineers, 8.3 for mechanical and industrial engineers, and 6.6 for chemical and ceramic engineers. In all professional classes, age was an important factor in the frequency of work relief. Table 40 gives for the three professional classes of civil engineers, electrical engineers, and mechanical engi neers,25 the percentages of those receiving work relief, at any time during the 5 years, 1930 to 1934, classified by age. The figures relate only to college graduates. T a b l e 40 .— P ercentage o f graduate en gineers reporting w ork relief at a n y tim e, 1 9 8 0 to 1 9 8 4 , by yea r o f graduation and p rofessio n a l class [Figures adjusted as explained on p. 34] Percentage reporting work relief Year of graduation All years____ _____________ _ engi Civil engineers Electrical neers ___ _________ Mechanical engineers _ 16.8 8.3 8.3 1933-34_____________________________________________ 1930-32____________________________________________ 1915-29_____________________________________________ ______ __ Prior to 1915____ _ ___ ___ __ _ ___ ___ 26.4 25.2 15.9 12.4 12.5 12.8 6.2 6.3 10.2 10.4 7.4 7.6 It will be noted from the table that there was relatively little differ ence, as regards the frequency of work-relief experience between those graduating in 1930-32 and those graduating in 1933-34. Among civil engineers, approximately one-fourth of those in these classes reported a period of work relief, about an eighth of the electrical engineers, and slightly more than a tenth of the mechanical engineers. The percent25 The civil engineers here tabulated do not include architectural and agricultural engineers, nor do the mechanical engineers include industrial. 116 E M P L O Y M E N T , EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 - 3 4 age of civil engineers and electrical engineers who reported work relief was only half as large among those graduating prior to 1915 as among those graduating 4n 1930 or later years. Only for the civil engineers was there any indication of a difference in the frequency of work relief as between graduates of 1915-29 and those of years prior to 1915. The median period of work relief was approximately 5 months, as shown in table 41 for college graduates classified by year of graduation in the three professional groups of civil, electrical, and mechanical engineering. T a b l e 41.— M e d ia n p eriod o f work re lie f am ong graduate en gin eers , 1 9 3 0 to 1 9 3 4 , by yea r o f graduation and p rofessio n a l class [Figures adjusted as explained on p. 34] Median period (in months) of work relief Year of graduation engi Civil engineers Electrical neers Mechanical engineers All y e a rs_______ __________________________________ 5.2 4.5 5.1 1933-34_____________________________________________ 1930-32_____________________________________________ 1915-29_____________________________________________ Prior to 1915-_ ______ ______ .. ___________________ 4.1 4.8 5.6 5.5 3.8 4.3 4.6 6.5 4.1 4.5 5. 7 5.6 The differences in the length of the period between the various pro fessional classes are small and show no particular regularity. Essen tially, the periods are the same both for civil engineers and for me chanical engineers, though the average period was perhaps somewhat shorter in the case of electrical engineers. Little difference is shown between those who graduated from 1915-29 and those who graduated prior to 1915, but apparently those who graduated prior to 1930 had a slightly longer period of work relief than those who graduated in 1930-32.26 Thus far in this discussion, those reporting work relief have been regarded as unemployed. In more than four-fifths of the cases those who reported a period of work relief also reported a period of unem ployment. However, of the 3,816 engineers with college degrees who reported a period of work relief, 642 reported no period of unemploy ment. This situation calls for some explanation though it does not change the general outline of the conclusions reached. There seems to be a slight overreporting of work relief and, therefore, a slight over estimate of unemployment due to the method of adding together periods of unemployment without work of any kind and periods of 26 If it is correct to conclude that the major part of the work-relief experience came in the years 1933-34; the differences between the classes graduating in 1930-32 and those graduating earlier are not to be explained in terms of a longer period of eligibility for work relief. It may be pointed out that a shorter period in the case of the classes of 1930-32 is consistent with the earlier conclusion that recruitment was more extensive among this group of engineers than among the older ones. The still shorter period, which is indicated for those who graduated in 1933-34, may well be explained by the fact that they had a shorter period of eligibility for work relief. U N EM PLO YM EN T, ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 - 3 4 117 work relief to determine the gross frequency and period of unemploy ment. There is also a corresponding underreporting of nonrelief public employment. In this discussion, it is necessary to distinguish three age groups, those graduating in 1929 or earlier years, those graduating in 1930-32, and those graduating in 1933-34. Among the more recent graduates little difference is found between civil engineers and all other types of engineers, as regards work relief without unemployment. Of the 533 engineers graduating from col lege in 1933-34 and reporting some work relief, 157 reported no period of unemployment, i. e., approximately a third of them appear to have entered directly into work relief. Among those graduating in 1930-32, 133 out of 819 or somewhat under a sixth, reported such an experience. This may merely reflect a need for young engineers to staff minor supervisory positions on projects conceived to meet the needs of other groups. T a b l e 4 2 . — C o m p a riso n o f graduate engineers reporting w ork relief fo llo w in g u n em p lo ym en t, and o f graduate en gineers reporting w ork relief w ith n o u n em p lo ym en t, 1 9 3 0 to 1 9 3 4 [Figures adjusted as explained on p. 34J Graduating class Total number reporting work relief only, and work relief fol lowing unemployment Total number reporting work relief only Civil, ag All other All profes ricultural, profes sional sional and archi classes tectural classes Civil, ag All other All profes ricultural, profes sional and archi sional classes tectural classes All engineers with college degrees,.. 3,816 2,170 1,646 642 390 252 Graduating classes: 1933-34_______________________ 1930-32_______________________ Prior to 1930__________________ 533 819 2,464 269 425 1, 476 264 394 988 157 133 352 83 65 242 74 68 110 In the case of those civil engineers who graduated in 1929 or earlier years, 242 of the 1,476 who reported work relief did not report a period of unemployment. There are too few cases in the other pro fessional classes to warrant a breakdown, but among all engineers other than civil engineers graduating in 1929 or earlier years, there were 110 out of 988 who reported no period of unemployment. Two factors lead to the belief that some of those reporting a period of work relief but no period of unemployment should be separated from the unemployed: (1) It will be noted that this situation was commoner among civil engineers than among the other professional classes, un doubtedly because the training of civil engineers was more extensively required on work-relief projects than was the training of other types of engineer; (2) it seems probable that there was some misunder standing by engineers replying to the questionnaire and that a small percentage of them reported public administrative employment in 285208°— 41----- 9 118 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 - 3 4 connection with work-relief projects as work relief rather than as public employment. It is possible that certain engineers reporting a period of work relief neglected to report a period of unemployment or merged the two figures in a single one of a period of work relief. In general, a period of work relief was associated with a reported period of unemployment. This was true of more than 85 percent of the engineers, without regard to professional classification, graduated in 1929 or earlier years, who secured work relief. For this group of college graduates, there is a clear relationship between the period of unemployment and entrance into work relief.27 The percentages in table 43 represent the ratio of the total number of individuals receiv ing work relief after a given period of unemployment to the total number of unemployed persons who had at least as much as the short est period of unemployment indicated. Thus, for example, 6 percent of all civil engineers who reported any period of unemployment whatsoever were placed on work-relief projects after a period of less than 6 months of unemployment, 11.9 percent of all civil engineers who were unemployed 6 months or more were placed on work-relief projects after 6 to 12 months of unemployment, etc. The figures in the table relate only to unemployed engineers with college degrees who reported work relief at any time from January 1930 to December 1934. T a b l e 43. — Percentage o f u n e m p lo ye d graduate en gineers on w ork re lie f after sp eci fied u n e m p lo ym en t , 1 9 3 0 to 1 9 3 4 , by ?/ear o f graduation Percentage of engineers who received work relief after specified months of unemployment Year of graduation Less than 6 6-12 12-18 18-24 24-30 30-36 36-42 42-48 All engineers with college degrees__________ 4.3 9.3 12.6 13.7 14.9 18.4 18.0 18.8 Civil engineers__________ ______________ 1925-29______________________________ 1915-24_______________________________ 1905-14____ __________________________ Prior to 1905____________________ : ------ 6.0 6.3 7.2 5.9 1.8 11.9 13.8 13.5 11.0 6.4 15.7 17.4 19.5 14.4 9.0 17.9 25.8 20.9 16.6 8.5 18.1 25.2 19.8 19.0 10.6 22.1 26.0 36.0 15.6 16.8 21.2 33.0 28.0 22.0 13.0 24.6 63.0 27.0 23.0 18.0 Other professional classes_______ _ ___ 1925-29______________________________ 1915-24______________________________ 1905-14______________________________ Prior to 1905__________________________ 2.8 2.5 3.7 2.8 .8 7.0 7.4 7.5 7.1 4.5 9.9 10.6 12.4 8.5 5.4 10.2 11.2 12.7 9.1 5.9 12.5 13.5 11.8 15.2 8.4 15.5 19.6 19.3 14.0 9.7 15.5 20.0 20.0 10.0 14.0 14.1 20.0 8.0 19.0 12.0 n For the correlation of the period of unemployment that antedates relief, the following information is available: The total period of unemployment, exclusive of work relief, and the total period of work relief. In order to simplify the presentation, the material is presented as though there were in all cases a sequence of an unbroken period of unemployment followed in certain instances by work relief. It is quite possible that in certain instances the total period of unemployment is broken into several stretches interspersed with periods of work relief. In such a case, it would be incorrect to say that work relief followed after 12 months of unemployment if 12 months were the total reported period of unemployment exclusive of work relief. To distinguish several periods of unemployment would have required a greater refinement than it was possi ble to undertake by the questionnaire method. The extent of the error, which is implied in this assumption, is probably not great, but technically all that can be shown is a relationship between a certain aggregate period of unemployment, exclusive of work relief, and the existence of some period of work relief which may have preceded a period of unemployment or have broken into a period of unemployment. U NEM PLO YM EN T, ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 - 3 4 119 During the 5-year period, placement on work-relief projects rose steadily as the period of unemployment was lengthened. For all unemployed civil engineers, the increase was from a 6.0-percent placement within less than 6 months to a 22.1-percent placement after 30 to 36 months of unemployment for those who had been unem ployed as much as 30 months. Among the other professional groups, the corresponding percentages of placement rise from 2.8 to 15.5 percent, as would be expected, because of the larger number of cases covered. This movement is more regular for all classes of graduates combined than for the four age groups, but even in these age groups there is an essential regularity. This increase in the percentage of placements on work-relief projects with lengthening periods of unemployment reflects the actual course of events in these 5 years, but the 5 years were not a homogeneous period as regards the availability of work relief, which was first inaugurated on a large scale in 1933. Any person unemployed for as little as 6 months in 1931 had virtually no opportunity to secure work relief. On the other hand, a person who became unemployed in July 1931 would, probably after the lapse of 30 months, have found C. W. A. work. Therefore, in interpreting the figures shown in the table, it must be remembered that longer periods of unemployment increased the probability of work relief merely by carrying over into a period in which work relief became available. A further and more significant comparison may be made with reference to the availability of work relief to the members of the different groups of graduating classes. For this purpose, these classes should be interpreted as indicating not particularly differences between younger and older engineers, but more especially probable differences in the financial resources of the different groups. In the aggregate, those engineers who graduated prior to 1905 probably had substantially larger financial reserves than those who graduated from 1925 to 1929. In the case of civil engineers, the percentage on work relief was highest in the case of those who graduated from 1925 to 1929. Among the other professional groups, this relationship was less well maintained, though there appeared to be a distinct demarca tion between those who graduated prior to and after 1915. The strongest contrast was between those who graduated in the period 1925-29 and those who graduated prior to 1905. Thus, 6.3 percent of the civil engineers who graduated from 1925 to 1929 received work relief after a period of less than 6 months of unemployment, but only 1.8 percent of those who graduated prior to 1905 reported work relief after such a period. Of the civil engineers unemployed as long as 24 months, 25.2 percent of those graduated in 1925-29, as con trasted with only 10.6 percent of those graduated prior to 1905, received work relief after 24 to 30 months of unemployment. Chapter VII Patent Privileges of Professional Engineers Since definitive information on the subject of patent rights of pro fessional workers has hitherto been unavailable, there were included in this survey certain questions relating to this subject. The par ticular information presented in this chapter covers the right to patent or to receive special compensation for inventions or improvements made on the one hand in the course of the work and on the other not directly related to the work in which the professional engineer was engaged. They are compiled from reports of those engineers who stated that they were engaged in engineering work in December 1934. Patent Privileges by Field of Engineering Activity Information as to patent privileges was furnished by 61.6 percent of the 35,559 reporting engineers 1 with engineering jobs at the end of 1934 (table 44). Of all engineers covered, 31.7 percent reported retention of the patent rights for all inventions made either in the course of their work or in fields not directly related to their work. Among the nine separate fields of engineering activity this was true of the largest group in each case, except in manufacturing, where the highest pro portion (30.1 percent) reported that they had no rights to patents relating to their work, but did retain their rights to those not directly related to their work. This latter combination (“ (1) N o, (2) Y es,” in table 44) ranked second in importance and included 16.9 percent of the 35,559 engineers. The third group in importance (including 4,575, or 12.9 percent) was that reporting complete restriction on both aspects of patent privileges. There were substantial variations in the rights to inventions in the several fields of employment. Thus, half of the engineers employed by manufacturing establishments reported that they had no rights in inventions made in the course of work and less than one-quarter reported positively that they did have special rights in connection with such inventions. One-third of those in extractive industries reported that they had no rights in such inventions, while an approxi1 As in the case of the discussion of “ Conditions of Employment” (ch. V, p. 81), the figures presented are unadjusted, as spot checks on an adjusted basis revealed no significant differences which would ma terially affect any conclusions derived from the analysis. 120 121 PATENT PRIVILEGES OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS mately equal number reported they did have such rights. In various lines of private employment, the smallest proportion reporting no rights to inventions made in the course of work was found in construc tion, but the highest proportion positively reporting that they had special rights was in public utilities. Restrictions on rights in inven tions made in the course of work existed for one-quarter of those engineers employed by the Federal Government, though more than half did not answer the question and only one-fifth stated positively that they did have special rights. In other fields of public employ ment and in personal service about 15 percent stated that they had no rights, while one-half of those in personal service, largely teachers, reported that they did have rights to inventions made in the course of work. T a b l e 4 4 .— D istrib u tio n o f all en gineers reporting patent rights at en d o f 1 9 3 4 , b y field o f en gineering activity Right retained to inventions (1) made in the course of work, and (2) not directly related to work Field of engineering activity Total (1) Yes; (2) yes (1) No; (2) yes (1) No; (2) no (1) Yes; (2) no Not report ing Number 35,559 11, 263 6,017 4, 575 42 113,662 Private engineering___________________ ___ 21,604 Construction_______ _________________ 3, 437 1,841 Extractive industries____ _ _________ Public utilities - ___ _________ ____ _ 4,183 Transportation___ _____________ __. 1, 255 Manufacturing____________________ 10, 888 6,499 1,178 601 1, 771 434 2,515 4,801 294 342 670 217 3,278 3,279 405 288 374 143 2,069 29 5 2 6 3 13 6,996 1, 555 608 1,362 458 3,013 Public engineering-. _ __ ____ - 11,177 4, 649 Federal Government___ ___ ______ State and county governments__________ 4,438 2,090 Municipal governments____ _________ 2,778 Personal service________ __ ______________ 3, 364 1,009 1,587 768 1, 400 946 582 249 115 270 1,150 567 386 197 146 10 3 5 2 3 5,707 2,488 2, 211 1,008 959 All fields____________________________________ Percentage All fields______________ ____ ______________ 100.0 31.7 16.9 12.9 0.1 38.4 Private engineering _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ________ Construction____ _ ___ ___ _ Extractive industries___ ____ ______ ____ Public utilities__ . __ _____ Transportation_______ _ ___________ Manufacturing--------- --------------------------- 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 30.1 34.3 32.6 42.4 34.6 23.1 22.2 8.6 18.6 16.0 17.3 30.1 15.2 11.8 15.6 8.9 11.4 19.0 .1 .1 .1 .1 .2 .1 32.4 45.2 33.1 32.6 36.5 27.7 Public engineering_________________________ Federal Governments---------------------------State and county governments_______ . _ Municipal governments___________ . Personal service______ __________ _ ------------ 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 30.1 21.7 35.8 36.7 50.4 8.5 12.5 5.6 5.5 9.7 10.3 12.2 8.7 9.4 5.3 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 51.0 53.5 49.8 48.3 34.5 1Included in this total are 42 cases in which reports state that there is a right to inventions made in the course of work but no rights to inventions not connected with the work, a combination which suggests error in reporting. It affects 0.1 percent in each class in table 44 (except transportation, 0.2). As a general rule in all fields of engineering activity, rights to inven tions made outside the course of work were retained by engineers. This was specially stated to be so by more than half the engineers in the 122 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 -3 4 several fields of private employment, except construction where 45.2 percent failed to answer the question. On the other hand, specific answers that such rights did not exist were made by 19.0 percent of those employed in manufacturing and 15.6 percent of those in extrac tive industries. Only about half of those engaged in public service answered the question. Of those who did answer, four times as many said they had rights to inventions made outside the course of work as said they did not have rights to such inventions. Even in this field approximately one-tenth did not have special rights in inventions made outside the course of work. Patent Privileges by Type of Engineering Work Of the engineers who were engaged in engineering work in December 1934, 34,101 reported on the type of engineering work in which they were engaged. This is a somewhat smaller number than reportedton the field of employment. In general, of course, the same distribution is shown as regards patent rights in table 45, where the classification is by type of work, as was shown in table 44 for field of employment. There were distinct differences as regards rights in inventions among the several types of professional work. Teachers had the most extensive rights in inventions, and engineers engaged in sales and in design and research were most restricted. T a b l e 4 5 .— D istr ib u tio n o f all en gineers reporting patent rights at end o f 1 9 3 4 , by ty p e o f en gin eerin g work Right retained to inventions (1) made in the course of work, and (2) not directly related to work Type of engineering work Total (1) Yes; (2) yes (1) No; (2) yes (1) No; (2) no Not re porting Number All types_______ ______________________________ Design and research_____________________________ Construction_______________________ ___________ ____________ _____ Operation_________________ Consulting______________ ____________ Teaching_________________________________ ____ Sales___________________________________________ General administration and management__________ 34,101 10,828 5,779 4,401 i 13,093 9,050 8, 233 8, 276 2,146 2,050 1, 513 2,833 2,128 2, 730 2,737 695 1,132 453 953 2,404 717 1,494 202 199 310 453 1, 430 892 1,108 246 90 293 342 3,088 3,894 2,937 1,003 629 457 1,085 Percentage ________________ 100.0 31.8 16.9 12.9 38.4 Design and research. _ . ___ ___________ ____ ____ Construction. __________________________________ Operation_______ ______ _______________________ Consulting__________ _________________________ Teaching__________________________ ____________ Sales... . . . ________ . . . . ._ . . . ____________ General administration and management____ . . . ... 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 23.5 33.2 33.1 32.4 55.3 29.9 33.6 26.6 8.7 18.1 9.4 9.7 20.5 16.0 15.8 10.8 13.4 11.5 4.4 19.4 12.1 34.1 47.3 35.4 46.7 30.6 30 2 38.4 All types_____________________ i Included in this total are 40 cases in which reports state that there is a right to inventions made in the course of work but no rights to inventions not connected with the work, a combination which suggests error in reporting. It affects not more than 0.1 percent in each type of work shown in the table. PATENT PRIVILEGES O'F PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS 123 In general, about one-third of the engineers stated positively that they retained rights in inventions made in the course of their employ ment. But 55.3 percent of the teachers stated that they had such rights, while only 14.1 percent of them reported that they had no such rights. In construction and consulting work, approximately one-third reported that they had rights in such inventions and onefifth that they had no such rights. Engineers engaged in operation and in general administration reported about as frequently that they did have rights to inventions made in the course of work as that they did not. However, among engineers engaged in sales, and in design and research, approximately two-fifths stated positively that they did not have rights in inventions made in the course of work, while a very much smaller proportion (in the case of those engaged in design and research, less than one-fourth) reported positively that they had rights to inventions made in the course of work. The same general relationship as regards the restriction on rights in inventions holds with reference to inventions not directly related to the work on which engineers were employed. In the case of teachers, almost two-thirds stated positively that they had rights in such in ventions and only 4.4 percent reported that they did not have such rights. Among the other groups, approximately half had rights in inventions not made in the course of work. About one-eighth stated that they did not have rights in inventions even though they were not directly related to the work in which they were employed. In this respect, there appeared to be no substantial differences in practice affecting engineers engaged in construction, operation, consultation, or general administration. The differences shown in the table prob ably arise from differences in the percentage which did not answer this question. But in the case of engineers engaged in design and research, 15.8 percent reported positively that they had no rights to inventions not directly related to work. Engineers engaged in sales reported a restriction in this respect in 19.4 percent of the cases. Chapter VIII Earned Annual Incomes of Professional Engineers, 1929 to 1934 The annual incomes reported in this survey include those received by engineers from all personal services in the three years 1929, 1932, and 1934. They are a measure of what engineers were able to earn and were determined, not only by the rate of earnings, but also by the volume of employment. In the first part of this chapter, the earned annual income data are presented without regard to their source, that is, they relate to the incomes of engineers, not to the incomes of men engaged primarily in engineering or nonengineering work. These particular data are shown in relation to (1) professional class, (2) age, and (3) type of education. In part II, however, the annual incomes, classified by age only, are shown related to the professional engineer’s employment status. The employment status, it will be recalled, was reported only as of December 31, 1929, 1932, and 1934. Consequently, it has been necessary to assume that the kind of engineering or nonengineering employment engaged in at the end of the year was the source of the income for that year. This assumption makes possible valid general comparisons of the earnings of engineers in these two types of employ ment. But in the section dealing with the annual incomes of engineers who were unemployed, or who were employed on relief projects at the end of the year, it must not be assumed that they reflect the source of the income. They are merely the incomes which had accrued during the year to those who were unemployed at the end of the year. Salient Features of the Data 1 From a consideration of certain pertinent aspects affecting the returns on income and earnings for 1929, 1932, and 1934, it is believed that these data are representative of the engineering profession as a whole. They have been shown to be representative as regards age, after allowance is made for the larger representation of engineers graduating in 1930 or later years. Also the several distributions of income follow a consistent pattern even when analyzed in detail. i To avoid an obvious repetition it is to be noted that the remarks in this section apply to both earned annual incomes as discussed in this chapter and to the analysis of monthly rates of compensation from engi neering work only, presented in the chapter immediately following. 124 EARNED ANNUAL INCOMES OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS 12 5 Thus, the same type of distribution emerges when the data are analyzed by ages, by professional classes, or even on a regional basis. This is true of both annual income and m onthly engineering income. T a b l e 46 .— Comparison of gross and net numbers of engineers reporting annual earnings in 1934 [Without regard to employment status reported] Graduates of classes Professional class Total “ Other” engineers born Prior to 1930-32 1933-34 1930 1 Total Prior to 1907 1 1907-9 1910-14 Number All classes: Number reporting in survey____ 43,288 Gross number reporting income. 38, 513 Net number reporting income. 33, 720 Chemical and ceramic: Number reporting in survey____ Gross number reporting income.. Net number reporting income.._ Civil, agricultural, and architectural: Number reporting in survey____ Gross number reporting income.. Net number reporting income. Electrical: Number reporting in survey____ Gross number reporting income.. Net number reporting income... Mechanical and industrial: Number reporting in survey____ Gross number reporting income.. Net number reporting income . . . Mining and metallurgical: Number reporting in survey____ Gross number reporting income.. Net number reporting income... 24,826 22,178 20, 376 11,050 10, 201 7, 210 7,412 6,134 6,134 9,301 8,277 7, 569 8,440 7, 513 6, 871 575 523 457 286 241 241 3,697 3, 270 2, 749 1,451 1,285 1,150 1, 259 1,169 783 987 816 816 203 177 156 158 137 124 27 27 19 18 13 13 16,114 14, 562 12,984 10, 314 9,344 8,596 3,602 3,369 2, 539 2,198 1,849 1,849 4, 712 4, 275 3,915 4,341 3,941 3, 603 256 233 211 115 101 101 9,924 8, 792 7,627 5,182 4,688 4, 368 2,949 2, 686 1,841 1, 793 1, 418 1,418 1, 519 1, 345 1, 256 1, 285 1,140 1,067 156 140 124 78 65 65 11,643 10, 236 8,923 6, 596 5,785 5,271 2, 854 2, 620 1, 821 2,193 1, 831 1,831 2, 590 2,246 2,035 2,407 2, 082 1,889 124 113 95 59 51 51 1,910 1,653 1,437 1,283 1,076 991 386 357 226 241 220 220 277 234 207 249 213 188 12 10 8 16 11 11 Percentage of number reporting in survey All classes: Gross number reporting income.. Net number reporting income. Chemical and ceramic: Gross number reporting income. _ Net number reporting income... Civil, agricultural, and architectural: Gross number reporting income. . Net number reporting income. __ Electrical: Gross number reporting income. _ Net number reporting income . . . Mechanical and industrial: Gross number reporting income. _ Net number reporting incom e... Mining and metallurgical: Gross number reporting income.. Net number reporting income... 89.0 77.9 89.3 82.0 92.4 65.3 82.8 82.8 89.0 81.4 89.0 81.4 91.0 79.5 84.3 84.3 88.5 74.4 88.4 79.1 93.0 62.3 82.7 82.7 87.2 76.8 86.7 78.5 100.0 70.4 72.2 72.2 90.4 80.6 90.6 83.3 93.6 70.6 84.1 84.1 90.7 83.1 90.8 83.0 91.0 82.4 87.8 87.8 88.6 76.9 90.4 84.3 91.1 62.5 79.1 79.1 88.5 82.7 88.7 83.0 89.7 79.5 83.3 83.3 87.9 76.6 87.7 79.9 91.9 63.9 83.5 83.5 86.7 78.6 86.5 78.5 91.1 76.6 86.4 86.4 86.5 75.2 83.9 77.2 92.5 58.5 91.3 91.3 84.5 74.7 85.5 75.5 83.3 66.7 68.8 68.8 1Includes all engineers 23 years of age and more in 1929 who reported they were profesionally active prior to 1930. Furthermore, the averages proved to be essentially the same, whether derived from a “ gross” or “ net” number reporting. The “ gross” number reporting income is the total number of engineers who reported income in any 1 year, irrespective of whether or not they reported in other years. The “ net” number reporting income is the number who furnished information for all three years— 1929, 126 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 -3 4 1932, and 1934.2 In the income tables averages are derived from the “ gross” numbers reporting. T a b l e 4 7 .— C o m p a riso n o f gross and net n u m bers o f en gin eers rep ortin g m on th ly en gin eerin g ea rn in gs 1 in 1 9 3 4 [Without regard to employment status reported] Graduates of classes Professional class Total “ Other” engineers born Prior 1930-32 1933-34 to 1930 2 Total Prior to 1907 2 1907-9 1910-14 Number All classes: Number reporting in survey___ 43, 288 Gross number reporting income _ 31, 574 26, 680 Net number reporting income. Chemical and ceramic: Number reporting in survey.._ Gross number reporting income. _ Net number reporting income... Civil, agricultural, and architectural: Number reporting in survey____ Gross number reporting income. _ Net number reporting income.. _ Electrical: Number reporting in survey-----Gross number reporting income. _ Net number reporting income. __ Mechanical and industrial: Number reporting in survey____ Gross number reporting income. . Net number reporting incom e.._ Mining and metallurgical: Number reporting in survey-----Gross number reporting income. . Net number reporting income... 24,826 19,814 17,686 11,054 7,405 4, 639 7,412 4,355 4, 355 9,301 7,504 6, 639 8,440 6,860 6, 070 575 447 372 286 197 197 3, 697 2, 568 2,071 1, 451 1,151 1,004 1, 259 842 492 987 575 575 203 141 118 158 116 99 27 16 10 18 9 9 16,114 12,929 11,073 10, 314 8, 593 7, 647 3, 602 2, 817 1,907 2,198 1, 519 1, 519 4, 712 3,996 3,538 4,341 3,691 3,260 256 212 185 115 93 93 9, 924 6, 307 5, 376 5,182 4,003 3,678 2,949 1, 524 918 1, 793 780 780 1,519 1,138 1,041 1, 285 980 898 156 109 94 78 49 49 11,643 8, 350 6, 994 6, 596 5,105 4, 511 2, 854 1,938 1,176 2,193 1, 307 1,307 2,590 2,022 1, 765 2,407 1,882 1, 648 124 102 79 59 38 38 1,910 1,420 1,166 1, 283 962 846 386 284 146 241 174 174 277 207 177 249 191 165 12 8 4 16 8 8 Percentage of number reporting in survey All classes: Gross number reporting income. Net number reporting income. _. Chemical and ceramic: Gross number reporting income. _ Net number reporting income... Civil, agricultural, and architectural: Gross number reporting income. . Net number reporting income... Electrical: Gross number reporting income. _ Net number reporting income.._ Mechanical and industrial: Gross number reporting income.. Net number reporting income. _. Mining and metallurgical: Gross number reporting income.. Net number reporting income. __ 72.9 61.6 79.8 71.2 67.1 42.0 58.8 58.8 80.7 71.4 81.3 71.9 77.7 64.7 68.9 68.9 69.5 56.0 79.2 69.1 67.0 39.1 58.3 58.3 69.5 58.1 73.4 62.7 59.3 37.0 50.0 50.0 80.2 68.7 83.3 74.1 78.3 53.0 69.1 69.1 84.8 75.1 85.0 75.1 82.8 72.3 80.9 80.9 63.6 54.2 77.2 70.9 51.7 31.2 43.5 43.5 74.9 68.5 76.3 69.9 69.9 60.3 62.8 62.8 71.7 60.1 77.4 68.4 68.0 41.2 59.6 59.6 78.1 68.1 78.2 68.5 82.3 63.7 64.4 64.4 74.3 61.0 75.0 65.9 73.6 37.8 72.2 72.2 74.7 63.9 76.7 66.3 66.7 33.3 50.0 50.0 1In the text, “ engineering earnings,” “ monthly engineering income,” and “ engineering income,” are used interchangeably. 2Includes all engineers 23 years of age and more in 1929 who reported they were professionally active prior to 1930. 2 In the case of the 1930-32 graduates and “ other” engineers born in 1907-9, the net number reporting income is the number furnishing data for the 2 years 1932 and 1934. In the case of the 1933-34 graduates and 1910-14 “ other” engineers, income data for 1934 alone were relevant. Hence, there is no difference between “ gross” and “ net” data. EARNED ANNUAL, INCOME'S OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS 127 The “ gross” numbers reporting earned annual income for 1934 and the “ net” numbers are shown compared in table 46. These numbers are the totals of those returning questionnaires before any adjust ment was made in the number of the younger men. In each case, the base for computing percentages was the number reporting in the survey, that is, those engineers who reported a type of education.3 For all age groups, it will be noted that there were dis tinct differences between the “ gross” and “ net” percentages reporting income. The greatest divergences occurred among the 1930-32 gradu ate and the 1907-9 “ other” engineers. For the country as a whole, these were, respectively, 27.1 and 11.5 percent. On a national basis, older graduates differed by 7.3 percent, older “ other” engineers by 7.6 percent. Despite these variations, a comparison of the corresponding measures of levels of annual income derived from the “ gross” and “ net” returns showed no significant differences. A similar situation was noted for the “ gross” and “ net” returns on monthly engineering in come shown in table 47. In the ensuing discussion, the middle values of income were com puted for groups with at least 10 engineers reporting. For the upper and lower 25-percent groups or levels, the measures were based on not less than 50, while the upper and lower 10-percent groups embraced not less than 100 engineers. Earned Annual Incomes From All Sources in 1929, 1932, and 1934 Incomes o f A ll Engineers Combined W ithout Regard to Age The income data for 1929 were furnished by 30,032 engineers, or slightly over 90 percent of all reporting engineers who were 23 years of age and more in 1929 and who reported that they were profes sionally active prior to 1930.4 These data, together with the adjusted figures on earned annual income, without regard to employment status reported, for 1932 and 1934, are shown in table 48. 3 The use of type of education as a base was felt to be justified because only 104 of the 52,689 professional engineers reporting in this survey did not report their type of education. The 104 engineers, however, did report their professional class, and either year of graduation or year of birth. They were, therefore, used for all purposes, except those dealing with type of education. 4 The gross figure of 38,513 shown in table 46 relates to all reports, whether for engineers in the profession in 1929 or to recent entrants. The choice of 23 years of age as datum arises from the fact that this was the computed median age of gradua tion of graduate engineers. It is obvious that this base did not make it feasible to include in the 1929 tabula tions those “ other” engineers who were under 23 years of age in 1929. Their data, however, are shown com pared with those reported by the 1930-32 graduates, that is, men of comparable ages for the years 1932 and 1934. 128 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 192 9 - 3 4 T a b l e 48 .— C o m p a riso n o f 5 levels o f annual earning in 1 9 2 9 , 1 9 3 2 , and 1 9 3 4 o f all p rofessio n a l en gin eers reporting [Figures adjusted as explained on p. 34 and without regard to employment status reported or type of education] Percentage at specified in come level Annual earnings of more than specified amount 1929 __ ______ $7,466 10 percent 5,012 25 percent_________ _____ 3,412 50 percent..... ................_. 2,509 75 percent________ _____ 1,878 90 percent____ _______ 1932 $5,605 3,827 2,574 1,698 889 1934 Increase or decrease 1929-34 Percentage change 1929-32 1932-34 1929-34 1929-32 1932-34 $5,138 —$2, 328 -$ 1 ,861 3,429 -1 . 583 -1,185 2, 286 -1.126 -838 -811 1, 473 -1,036 872 -1,006 -989 -$467 -398 -288 -225 -1 7 -3 1 .2 -31.6 -3 3.0 -41.3 -5 3.6 —24.9 -2 3.6 -2 4.6 -3 2.3 -5 2.7 —8. 3 —10.4 -11. 2 —13.3 -1 .9 In 1929 the range in earned annual incomes among professional engineers was great. Some 479 reported incomes less than $800 per year, while 295 earned more than $19,000 a year. In 1929, without regard to their age distribution, half of the engineers had annual incomes greater than $3,412, while half earned less than that figure. However, 25 percent earned more than $5,012 per annum. Only 10 percent of the 30,032 reporting engineers had incomes in excess of $7,466 per annum. On the other hand one-quarter of all engineers reporting earned less than $2,509 per year, and one-tenth earned less than $1,878 per year. From 1929 to 1934, marked decreases took place in the earned annual incomes of professional engineers. The sharpest absolute declines occurred in the higher income levels. Thus, in 1929, while the highest one-tenth of the engineers had earned more than $7,466, in 1934 the earnings of this highest-paid tenth ranged down to $5,138. The middle income declined from $3,412 in 1929 to $2,286 in 1934. However, the percentages of decrease for the highest 10 and 25 percent of reporting engineers were approximately the same, namely, 31.2 and 31.6 percent, respectively. The middle or average values of all incomes declined by 33.0 percent. A t the lower income levels, the absolute declines were almost as great as was the decline of the median earnings; but the percentage decreases were greater. This decrease at the lower levels reflects not only salary cuts, but also the low earn ings of those with long periods of unemployment. In 1929, while the yearly earnings reported by the lowest 25 and 10 percent of the engineers were less than $2,509 and $1,878 respectively, by 1934 the former had decreased to $1,473, the latter to $872. The relative percentage decreases were greatest for these two lower income levels, namely, 41.3 and 53.6.6 5 It must be noted that errors of reporting account for part of the decline, at least in the lowest brackets for which comparison is made. The questionnaire called for earnings during the calendar years 1929 and 1934. An engineer graduating from college in either year would usually have had only a half year in which he earned. In both years, there is some evidence that annual rates were occasionally reported. Such over reporting was more common for 1929 than 1934. EARNED AN N U AL INCOMES O'E PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS 129 Almost two-thirds of the decrease in earned annual incomes occurred between 1929 and 1932. This, it will be recalled, was coincident with the greatest declines in employment. There were further declines in the period 1932 to 1934. In general, the order of the absolute decreases and the percentages of change followed those which took place in the period 1929 to 1934, the one exception being that, between 1932 and 1934, there was only a 1.9 percent decline in the lowest income levels. The corresponding absolute decrease was $17. Incomes by Professional Class, W ithout Regard to Age When these adjusted data on annual income were compared for all engineers reporting in the five professional classes, marked diver gences in their respective earnings capacities were revealed. These differences in earnings capacities within the several profes sional classes were greatest at the higher income levels. Thus, in 1929, nine-tenths of all electrical engineers earned $1,662 or more, while a similar proportion of the mining and metallurgical engineers earned $1,985. The range was $323. For the middle values of income, a difference of $733 was noted between the extremes of $4,010 for mining and metallurgical and $3,277 for electrical engineers. On the other hand, at the highest level, one-tenth of the mining and metallugrical engineers earned $9,912 or more, whereas a correspond ing proportion of civil engineers earned only $6,507 or more. Clearly, it was in the higher income levels that the earnings capacities of the several professional classes diverged the most, even in terms of per centages. Furthermore, this characteristic of greater variability among the professional classes at higher levels persisted in 1929, 1932, and 1934. However, when the question is asked as to which professional class offers the greatest earnings, or which the lowest, the answer must be carefully qualified. In the first place, the averages shown in table 49 relate to the total number of the professional class. For example, 1,319 mining and metallurgical engineers reported incomes for 1929, and of these one-tenth, or 132, had incomes of $10,000 or more. There were 13,424 civil, agricultural, and architectural engineers, of whom one-tenth, or 1,342, had incomes in excess of $6,507. There fore, it may be concluded that of every 1,000 engineers in either pro fessional class, a larger proportion will earn $10,000 in mining and metallurgical engineering than in civil engineering. But the total number of opportunities to earn $10,000 were greater in civil engi neering, much the larger of the two professional classes. Among the civil engineers reporting to the Bureau for 1929, there were 469 who indicated incomes of $10,000 or more in 1929. 130 E M P LO YM E N T, EARNINGS---- ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 - 3 4 T a b l e 49.— C o m p a riso n o f 5 levels o f annual earnings in 1 9 2 9 , 1 9 8 2 , and 1 9 8 4 o f all en gineers reporting, by p rofessio n a l class [Figures adjusted as explained on p. 34 and without regard to employment status reported or type of education] Percentage of professional class at specified income level1 Annual earnings of more than speci fied amount 1929 1932 1934 Increase or decrease 1929-34 Percentage change 1929-32 1932-34 1929-34 1929-32 1932-34 10 percent: Mining and metallurgical___ $9,912 $7, Oil $6, 486 —$3, 426 —$2,901 -$525 -34.6 -29.3 Chemical and ceramic______ 9,103 6, 525 5, 860 -3 , 243 -2 , 578 -665 -35.6 -28.3 Mechanical and industrial--. 8, 508 6, 220 5, 572 -2 , 936 -2,288 -648 -34.5 -26.9 Electrical_________________ 7,185 5,785 5, 220 -1,965 -1,400 -565 -27.3 -19.5 Civil, agricultural, and archi tectural. _________ _____ 6, 507 5,086 4, 561 -1,946 -1 , 421 -525 -29.9 -21.8 25 percent: Mining and metallurgical___ 6,301 4,698 4,328 -1 , 973 -1 , 603 -370 -31.3 -25.4 Chemical and ceramic_____ 6,043 4, 425 3,703 -2 , 340 -1,618 -722 -38.7 -26.8 Mechanical and industrial.-- 5, 582 4,123 3, 662 -1,920 -1,459 -461 -34.4 -26.1 Electrical_________________ 4,806 3,770 3, 410 -1 , 396 -1,036 -360 -29.0 -21.6 Civil, agricultural, and archi -929 -313 -27.6 -2 0.6 tectural. ________ ___ 4,508 3, 579 3,266 -1,242 50 percent: -949 -435 -34.5 -23.7 Mining and metallurgical___ 4,010 3,061 2,626 -1 , 384 Chemical and ceramic______ 3,803 2, 625 2,047 -1,756 -1,178 -578 -46.2 -31.0 Mechanical and industrial __. 3, 699 2,681 2, 324 -1 , 375 -1,018 -357 -37.2 -27. 5 Civil, agricultural, and archi 3,291 2, 545 2, 297 -994 -746 -248 -30.2 -22.7 tectural. _ . . . ___ -768 -291 -32.3 -23.4 E lectrica l..______ ______ _ 3,277 2, 509 2, 218 -1,059 75 percent: Mining and metallurgical___ 2,839 1,788 1,512 -1 , 327 -1,051 -276 -46.7 -37.0 -950 -252 -45.8 -36.2 Mechanical and industrial... 2, 626 1, 676 1,424 -1,202 -982 -343 -52.2 -38.7 Chemical and ceramic . . . . 2, 538 1,556 1,213 -1 , 325 Civil, agricultural, and archi -903 -729 -174 -36.1 -29.2 2,499 1,770 1,596 tectural________ _____ . . . -996 -705 -291 -42.6 -30.1 Electrical___. . . . . . _______ 2, 339 1, 634 1,343 90 percent: 893 -1,092 -1,212 +120 -55.0 -61.1 773 Mining and metallurgical___ 1,985 -6 6 -56.4 -53.0 Mechanical and industrial 1,956 919 853 -1,103 -1,037 Civil, agricultural, and archi -910 -1,017 +107 -47.2 -52.8 909 1,016 tectural.,_______________ 1,926 610 -1,076 -954 -122 -63.8 -56.6 732 Chemical and ceramic.. ._ _ 1,686 -931 -789 -142 -56.0 -47. 5 873 731 Electrical _______ _____ . 1,662 -7 .5 -10.2 -10.4 -9 .8 -10.3 -7 .9 -1 6.3 -1 1.2 -9 .5 -8 .7 -14.2 -22.0 -13.3 -9 .7 -11.6 -15.4 -15.0 -22.0 -9 .8 -17.8 +15.5 -7 .2 +11.8 -16.7 -16.3 i Arranged in ascending order of earned annual income for 1929. Again, the ranking of the profession on the basis of earnings oppor tunity relative to the number of engineers in the professional class was not the same at all levels and in all three periods. As regards the relative level of income for the highest 10 percent, and also the highest 25 percent, in each professional class, there was a constant relation ship. Thus, in 1929, 10 percent of the mining and metallurgical engineers earned more than $9,912. Chemical and ceramic engineers ranked second with 10 percent earning more than $9,103, and were followed in order by mechanical and industrial engineers ($8,508), electrical engineers ($7,185), and civil engineers ($6,507). Relative to the mining and metallurgical engineers, the divergence was 8, 14, 27, and 33 percent. A similar divergence was noted between the lower limit of $6,301 reported by the upper fourth of the mining and metal lurgical engineers and those of the other professional classes. In 1929, these ranged from 4 percent in the case of chemical and ceramic ($6,034) to 28 percent for the civil engineers ($4,508). This order of professional classes was also maintained in 1932 and 1934. EARNED A N N U A L INCOMES OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS 131 In 1929, the relative order of the median professional incomes was the same as that just described, as regards mining, chemical, and mechanical engineers. But whereas the upper limit of the earnings of the lowest 25 percent of the electrical engineers exceeded that of a similar proportion of the civil engineers by 6.6 percent, at the median level the situation was reversed— half the civil engineers earned $3,291 or more, whereas half the electrical engineers earned $3,277 or more. This change in order persisted in 1932 and 1934. In 1932 and 1934, the median earnings of mining and mechanical engineers led all the others. Chemical engineers were below mechan ical engineers in 1932. The median earnings of chemical engineers were lower than the median of every other professional class in 1934. At the lower levels the most marked shift in rank was that of civil engineers and chemical engineers. In 1929, one-quarter of the civil engineers earned less than $2,499, exceeding only the comparable earnings of electrical engineers. But in 1932, civil engineers were in second place as regards the level of earnings of the lowest quarter of the profession, and in 1934 they were in first place. Even in 1929, the lowest 10 percent of the civil engineers had earned almost as much as the lowest 10 percent of the mining and mechanical engineers, and substantially exceeded the level of the lowest 10 percent of the chemical and electrical engineers. W ith reference to both the lowest 25 and 10 percent groups, chemical engineers’ earnings came in last place in 1932 and 1934. Further examination of the adjusted data in table 49, given without regard to age, demonstrates not only differences in earnings capacities but also variations in the decreases in earned annual income over the period 1929 to 1934. W ithout exception, the greater part of all con tractions in income reported occurred between 1929 and 1932, though there were further declines in the period 1932 and 1934. A nnual Income Related to Age— A ll Engineers Combined The effects of age upon earned annual incomes, for all professional engineers combined are presented in table 50. This table makes it plain that the engineers’ earnings advanced with age. In 1929, the income level of half of the engineers who had grad uated in 1927 or 1928, or were from 24 to 25 years of age, exceeded $2,098, whereas that of half of the engineers in the age group 56-63 exceeded $4,968. Similarly, in 1932 and 1934 there was a continuous advance. But apparently age 60 represented a turning point in the average earnings of professional engineers. Furthermore, the increase in earnings with age comprised three distinct phases: Initial periods of exceptionally rapid rise which contain the maximum average yearly increase, followed by two others in which the rates of increase were 132 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 - 3 4 T a b l e 50 .— C om p a rison o f 5 levels o f a nnual earnings in 1 9 2 9 , 1 9 8 2 , and 1 9 8 4 of all en gineers rep ortin g , b y age [Without regard to employment status reported or type of education] Proportion with annual earnings of more than specified amount Years after graduation Year of gradu ation 10 per 25 per 50 per 75 per- 90 per cent cent cent cent cent 1929 64 years and over. 56-63 years______ 48-55 years_____ 40-47 years______ 36-39 years______ Prior to 1889_ _ 1889-96______ 1897-1904_____ 1905-12______ 1913-16______ 41 and over__ 33-40________ 25-32________ 17-24________ 13-16________ $9, 999 12, 749 11, 701 9,913 7,936 $6, 942 7,493 7,129 6,473 5,802 $4, 427 4,968 4,918 4,588 4,121 $3,005 3, 378 3,471 3,403 3, 210 $1,904 2, 328 2,621 2,683 2,563 32-35 years______ 28-31 years______ 26-27 years______ 24-25 years______ 23 years 1_______ 1917-20______ 1921-24______ 1925-26______ 1927-28______ 1929_________ 9-12_________ 6-8__________ 3-4__________ 1-2__________ 0____________ 6,520 4,797 3,621 3,049 2, 330 4,850 3,786 3,099 2, 497 1,922 3,674 3,145 2,550 2,098 1, 313 3,004 2, 567 2,149 1,822 882 2,448 2,130 1,827 1,462 478 1932 67 years and over. 59-66 years______ 51-58 years_____ 43-50 years______ 39-42 years______ Prior to 1889_ _ 1889-96______ 1897-1904_____ 1905-12______ 1913-16______ 44 and over___ $8,940 36-43________ 9, 318 28-35________ 8,350 20-27________ 7,570 16-19________ 6,395 $5, 931 6,167 5, 753 5,192 4,592 $3, 650 3,959 3,832 3,619 3, 385 $2,104 2,462 2,525 2,520 2,475 $953 964 1, 219 1,410 1.478 35-38 years______ 31-34 years______ 29-30 years______ 27-28 years______ 26 years________ 1917-20______ 1921-24._ . . 1925-26.. ___ 1927-28______ 1929_________ 12-15________ 8-11_________ 6-7________ 4-5.................. 3 .................. - 5,519 4,287 3, 428 2,970 2,451 4,115 3, 386 2, 862 2,452 2,075 3,135 2, 677 2, 314 2, 020 1, 772 2,307 2,025 1, 810 1, 504 1, 271 1, 355 1,229 1,110 876 735 25 years________ 24 years_______ 23 years »_______ 1930_________ 1931_________ 1932________ _ 0 ................. 2,139 1, 960 1, 673 1, 898 1,605 1, 097 1, 540 1, 224 645 1,007 733 322 577 293 129 - . - 1934 69 years and over. 61-68 years______ 53-60 years______ 45-52 years______ 41-44 years______ Prior to 1889_ _ 1889-96______ 1897-1904_____ 1905-12______ 1913-16______ 46 and over__ 38-45________ 30-37________ 22-29________ 18-21________ $7, 360 8,280 7,720 7,226 6,204 $5,182 5, 391 5, 264 4,907 4,441 $3,138 3,497 3, 502 3, 380 3, 211 $1, 470 1,800 2,165 2,364 2,256 $787 770 1,157 1,441 1,491 37-40 years______ 33-36 years______ 31-32 years______ 29-30 years______ 28 years________ 1917-20______ 14-17________ 1921-24______ 10-13________ 1925-26______ 8-9__________ 1927-28______ 6-7__________ 1929 __ 5____________ 5,336 4,259 3, 496 3,004 2, 567 3,953 3, 334 2, 840 2,467 2,162 2,977 2, 569 2, 294 2, 023 1,.858 2,173 1,958 1,817 1,568 1, 431 1,463 1, 358 1, 276 1,061 998 27 years________ 26 years________ 25 years_______ 24 years________ 23 years 1_______ 1930 1931 1932 1933 1934 4__......... ......... 3____________ 2 1______ I____ 0___________ - 2, 318 2,100 1,952 1,801 1,310 1,987 1, 816 1, 581 1, 454 927 1, 666 1,441 1,275 1,139 598 1,256 1,067 945 813 299 865 631 495 333 120 __ __ __ __ __ 1 Averages for annual income in the year of graduation are probably seriously in error because they are a combination of careful reports in which earnings are given in the 6 remaining months of the year following graduation, and reports of annual rates. The reader is advised generally to disregard these figures, and to study for this graduating class monthly rates of engineering income. progressively slower up to the respective maxima of the five income groups or levels. The age spans of these phases differed with the income level. Thus, for the middle and two lower levels of income in 1929, the maximum yearly increase of $450 was reached at the age of 25. On the other hand, the initial periods of rapid rise for the upper EARNED ANNUAL INCOMES OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS 133 25- and 10-percent levels were not reached until the ages of 27 and 34 respectively. The subsequent periods of increase for the upper 10 percent embraced the age spans of 34 to 44, and 44 to 60, whereas those for the next highest income level extended from 27 to 38, and 38 to 60 years of age. The three remaining income levels increased at practi cally the same rate between 25 and 34 years. But while the age span for the third phase of increase was from 34 to 52 for the middle level, it extended only from 34 to 44 in the case of the two lower levels of income. There was also an increased spread of earnings with advancing age. Even in the early ages there was a fairly considerable range. Thus, in 1929, among those who graduated in 1927, or 1928, the lowest quarter earned less than $1,822, whereas the earnings of the highest quarter were about one-third higher than this amount, or $2,497 per annum. It is also true that the highest 10 percent of these ages earned at least twice as much as the lowest 10 percent. But among engineers who were about 52 in 1929, the highest-paid quarter earned at least twice as much as the lowest-paid quarter, and the highest 10 percent earned more than four times as much as the lowest 10 percent. Similar relationships existed in 1932 and 1934, although the range of increases was due in large part to the influence of unemployment on the earnings in the lower levels of income. The spread in earnings was accentuated beyond the age of 38. At that point, the income curve of the upper 10 percent diverged upward and continued thus to the age of 60. On the other hand, the remaining curves ran consistently parallel up to their respective maxima. For example, at the ages of 25, 44, 52, and 60 the incomes of the upper 25 percent differed from the median by 19, 41, 45, and 51 percent, while the order of differences for the lower 25 percent was 13, 26, 29, and 32 percent. B y contrast, the corresponding incomes of the upper 10 percent at these ages were greater than the median by 45, 116, 138, and 157 percent. Clearly, beyond the age of 44, the earned annual incomes reported in 1929 by the upper 10 percent of all engineers differed very greatly from those in the other income levels, and this advantage in earning capacity was maintained in 1932 and 1934 also. The earnings of engineers in the lower income brackets ceased to increase at a relatively early age. It is only approximately correct to assume that ability and income are in direct proportion. B y and large, however, it is perhaps safe to assume that the engineers at any age in the lowest 10-percent income group are less able than the aver age at that age; and that the highest 10 percent are substantially more able than the average. The Bureau’s data reveal that the maxi mum earnings of the lowest 10 and 25 percent were reached in 1929 285208°—41----- 10 134 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 -3 4 EARNED ANNUAL INCOMES OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS 135 MEDIANS OF EARNED ANNUAL INCOME ACCORDING TO AGE 1929, 1932 AND 1934 INCOME FROM ENGINEERING AND NONENGINEERING SERVICES INCLUDING FU LL AND PART TIME EMPLOYMENT, A LL TYPES OF EDUCATION DOLLARS DOLLARS 13,000 13,000 -------- 1— |— |-------1----------- 1---------- r 12,000 12,000 11,000 9,000 6,000 a,ooo 7,000 6,000 6,000 5,000 5,000 4,000 3,000 2,000 - 2,000 1,000 .1. 1. J___ I____J____ L AgC/NYCARS 2H23 27 30 Years After 2 4 7 n is Graduation U . S. B ureau of L abor S t a t is t ic s SO 6S 136 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 -3 4 EARNED ANNUAL INCOMES OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS 137 138 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 192 9 - 3 4 at about 44 years of age, and the average engineer reached his maxi mum earnings at about 52. The same relationship held in 1932 and 1934. i In the two later years the maximum for the average engineer oc curred at about 60, but it is evident that earning power for engineers above the average continued to rise beyond this age. Thus, the aver age earnings of engineers 53 to 60 years of age in 1934 exceeded $3,502, whereas the average earnings of those 61 to 68 years were more than $3,497. But the highest 10 percent of the first group earned over $7,720, whereas the same class of the second group earned more than $8,280. Table 50 discloses differences in the age-income cycles beyond the points of maximum earnings, that is, at the end of the third phases of increase. In the case of the two higher income levels, the fourth and last phase in 1929 was one of decrease. This was not so for the three lower income levels. For them, there was a fourth phase of no change in income which covered a span of approximately 8 years: 52 to 60 for the middle group, and from 44 to 52 in the case of the two lower levels. The fifth phases were ones of decrease. Relatively, however, the steepest declines occurred in the two higher income levels. Incomes in R elation to Advancing Age and Experience Changes in income brought about by the depression in various years m ay be considered from the point of view of particular individuals whose age and experience was increasing, or from the point of view of the expectations of men with comparable periods of experience. For example, the average earnings of engineers who graduated in 1927-28 declined only from $2,098 in 1929 to $2,020 in 1932, and increased slightly to $2,023 in 1934. On the other hand, those who graduated in 1897-1904 averaged $4,918 in 1929, $3,832 in 1932, and $3,502 in 1934. Such comparisons for each group of engineers over the period 1929-34 may be made from table 50. They are, however, more conveniently arranged for direct comparison in table 51. This table shows a rise in earnings for the youngest engineers in the profession in 1929, who were near to 30 years of age in 1934. The advance in earning capacity in the first 5 years of engineering expe rience was so great that it offset the influence of the depression in the case of the youngest engineers. A t higher ages, when an added year’s experience influenced income less, the incomes of particular engineers declined by as much as 30 percent for the average graduate of the classes of 1889-96. In general, the older the group the greater was the decline in the average income of the group. EARNED AN N U AL INCOMES O'F PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS 139 T a b l e 51.— Comparison of 5 levels of annual earnings in 1929, 1982, and 1984 of 5 age groups of older 1 engineers reporting [Without regard to employment status reported or type of education] Annual earnings of more than specified amount of engineers whose ages were— Percentage at specified income level 65 60 63 in in in 1929 1932 1934 D o l. D o l . D o l . 10 percent- _ __ _ 12, 749 9, 318 8, 280 25 percent______ 7,493 6,167 5,391 50 percent_____ 4,968 3,959 3,497 75 percent______ 3, 378 2,462 1,800 90 percent _____ 2, 328 964 770 41 38 43 in in in 1929 1932 1934 D ol. D ol. D ol. 7,936 6, 395 6,204 5,802 4,592 4, 441 4,121 3,385 3, 211 3, 210 2.475 2, 256 2, 563 1, 478 1,491 33 30 35 in in in 1929 1932 1934 D o l. D ol, D o l. 4,797 4,287 4, 259 3,786 3, 386 3, 334 3,145 2,677 2,569 2, 567 2.025 1,958 2,130 1,229 1, 358 25 28 30 231+ 26/a 2 8 / in in in in in in 1929 1932 1934 1929 1932 1934 D ol. D ol. D ol. D ol. D o l. D ol. 3.049 2,970 3,004 2, 330 2, 451 2.567 2,497 2, 452 2, 467 1,922 2,075 2,162 2,098 2,020 2,023 1,313 1,772 1,858 1, 822 1,504 1, 568 882 1, 271 1,431 1,462 876 1,061 478 735 998 Percentage increase or decrease 1929- 1929- 1932- 1929- 1929- 1932- 1929- 1929-'1932- 1929- 1929- 1932- 1929- 1929- 193234 34 32 34 34 32 34 34 34 34 32 32 34 34 32 10 percent______ 25 percent-- _ ___ 50 percent--____ 75 percent_____ 90 percent______ -3 5 -2 8 -3 0 -47 -6 7 -2 7 -1 8 -2 0 -27 -5 9 -11 -1 3 -1 2 -27 -2 0 -2 2 -2 3 -2 2 -30 -4 2 -1 9 -2 1 -1 8 -23 -4 2 -3 -3 -5 -9 +1 -11 -1 2 -1 8 -2 4 -3 6 -11 - 1 -11 - 2 -1 5 - 4 -21 - 3 -4 2 +10 -3 -1 +5 +5 +1 + 1 0 -1 -2 +1 +12 +8 +4 -4 -4 0 +42 +35 +5 -1 4 -1 7 +4 +62 +44 +13 -2 7 -4 0 +21 +109 +54 +36 includes graduate and “ other” engineers who reported they were professionally active prior to 1930. Incomes o f Engineers o f Identical Ages In order to trace the influence of the depression on professional opportunity and on the normal expectations of members of the pro fession, table 52 compares the earnings for identical ages in each of the 3 years.6 For each level of experience, incomes declined from 1929 to 1934, and two-thirds to three-quarters of this decline occurred from 1929 to 1932. Over the entire period the average income of those who had been out of college for 2 years declined 43 percent. Those who had been out 5 years had, on the average, 35 percent less income in 1934 than the corresponding group in 1929. For older engineers, the decline approximated 30 percent, being slightly more than this for those with 10 years’ experience, and slightly less for those with 20 years’ experience. The most significant differences brought about by the depression were in the spread of incomes at various ages. In all cases, primarily because of the influence of unemployment, annual income for the lowest 25 percent and the lowest 10 percent declined more than the average income at a given age. Thus, 2 years after graduation, 10 percent of the engineers earned less than $1,462 in 1929 as compared with a corresponding group earning less than $410 in 1934. This was a decline of 72 percent as compared with a 43 percent decline for the average at this age. Similarly, the average for engineers 30 years 6 The figures are not derived from direct tabulations which were made on the basis of the same combina tions of years of birth or graduation in each of the 3 years, but the movements of earnings proved to be sufficiently regular to justify reading the values for particular ages from the chart. 140 E M P L O Y M E N T , EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 - 3 4 after graduation declined 30 percent from 1929 to 1934, while the level below which the earnings of 10 percent of such engineers were found fell by 50 percent. , T a b l e 5 2 — Comparison of 5 levels of annual earnings in 1929, 1932, and 1934 for corresponding years after graduation [Without regard to employment status reported or type of education] Proportion with annual earnings of more than specified amount Age of engineers Years after gradu- 10 percent 25 percent 50 percent 75 percent 90 percent lit lu ll 1929 1932 1934 1929 1932 1934 1929 1932 1934 1929 1932 1934 1929 1932 1934 D o l. 23M years.. 25 years___ 28 years___ 33 years___ 43 years___ 53 years___ 60 years___ D ol. D o l. D o l. D o l. D o l. D o l. D o l. D o l. D o l. D o l. D ol. D o l. D o l. D o l. 2,330 1, 673 1, 310 1,922 1, 097 927 1,313 645 598 882 322 299 478 129 120 3,049 2,150 1,880 2,497 1, 750 1,500 2,098 1, 399 1,190 1,822 840 860 1,462 420 410 5 3,980 2,970 2,410 3, 300 2,452 2,080 2,710 2,020 1, 750 2,275 1,504 1, 340 1, 925 876 940 10 6,000 4,287 3,700 4,560 3,386 2,990 3,500 2,677 2, 380 2,890 2, 025 1, 850 2,375 1,229 1,299 20 9,450 6,680 6,204 6,350 4, 750 4,441 4,450 3,420 3, 211 3,380 2,490 2,256 2,650 1,460 1,491 30 11, 700 8,000 7,450 7, 190 5,580 5, 050 4,900 3,780 3, 420 3, 430 2,520 2,240 2,590 1,285 1,286 37 12, 749 8,900 7,900 7,493 5,960 5, 250 4,968 3,900 3,500 3,378 2,490 2,010 2,328 1,050 980 H 2 Percentage increase or decrease 1929- 1929- 1932- 1929- 1929- 1932- 1929- 1929- 1932- 1929- 1929- 1932- 1929- 1929- 193232 32 32 34 34 34 34 34 34 32 34 32 34 34 34 2 3 years._ 25 years___ 28 years___ 33 years___ 43 years___ 53 years___ 60 years___ H 2 5 10 20 30 37 -4 4 -3 8 -3 9 -3 8 -3 4 -3 6 -3 8 -2 8 -2 9 -2 5 -2 9 -2 9 -3 2 -3 0 -2 2 -1 3 -1 9 -1 4 -7 -7 -1 1 -5 2 -4 0 -3 7 -3 4 -3 0 -3 0 -3 0 -4 3 -3 0 -2 6 -2 6 -2 5 -2 2 - 20 -1 5 -1 4 -1 5 -1 2 - 7 - 9 -1 2 -5 4 -4 3 -3 5 -3 2 -2 8 -3 0 -3 0 -5 1 -3 3 -2 5 -2 4 -2 3 -2 3 -21 -7 -1 3 -1 3 -1 1 -6 -1 0 -1 0 -6 6 -5 3 -4 1 -3 6 -3 3 -3 5 -4 0 -6 3 - 1 -7 5 -5 4 + 2 -7 2 -3 4 -1 1 -5 1 -3 0 - 9 -4 5 -2 6 - 9 -4 4 -2 7 -1 1 -5 0 -2 6 -1 9 -5 8 -7 3 -7 1 -5 4 -4 8 -4 5 -5 0 -5 5 -1 -2 +7 +6 +2 0 -7 There was comparatively little difference for the various ages in the decline of the median income or in the decline of the level of income above which only 25 percent of the engineers of corresponding ages were found. The highest level of income (that achieved by only 10 percent at each age) declined more than the average in the case of all groups of engineers with 5 years’ or more experience. Thus this select group among engineers 60 years of age lost 38 percent from 1929 to 1934, whereas the average decline at that age was 30 percent. A n n u a l In com e and E d u ca tion , W it h o u t R eg a rd t o A g e The foregoing analysis of annual incomes reported by professional engineers for 1929, 1932, and 1934 took no account of differences in educational background. In 1929, some 22,386, or 86 percent, of the 24,826 older graduates in engineering courses in the sample reported income and 7,646, or 90 percent, of the 8,440 older “ other” engineers who were in the profession in 1929 reported. The five income levels for these two groups are shown in table 53. 141 EARNED AN N U A L INCOMES OOF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS! T able 53 .— Comparison of 5 levels of annual earnings in 1 9 2 9 , 1 98 2 , and 1934 of older 1 graduate 2 and “ other” 3 engineers reporting , by professional class [Without regard to employment status reported] Annual earnings of more than specified amount Percentage of professional class 4 at speci fied income level Graduate engineers 2 1929 1932 1934 Percentage in come of “ other” engineers formed of that of graduate “ Other” engineers 3 engineers— 1929 1932 1934 10 percent: Mining and metallurgical___________ $10,015 $7, 413 $7, 530 $8, 940 $6, 370 $6, 263 Chemical and ceramic______________ 9,173 7, 432 7, 414 8,100 6, 435 6, 795 Mechanical and industrial.— ______ 8,715 6,481 6,269 8,161 6, 273 5, 997 Electrical________ _____ ___________ 7,301 6,263 6,084 6,654 5,943 5, 670 Civil, agricultural, and architectural. _ 6,853 5, 478 5,133 5,745 4, 470 4, 222 26 percent: Mining and metallurgical______ . . . 6,349 4,973 4,833 6,025 4, 640 4,587 Chemical and ceramic_____________ 6,111 5,116 4, 976 5,210 4, 540 4,335 Mechanical and industrial_______ 5,603 4, 414 4, 262 5, 536 4,269 3, 972 Electrical__________________________ 4,886 4,175 4,062 4,497 3,762 3,654 Civil, agricultural, and architectural.. 4,732 3, 923 3, 671 4, 036 3, 349 3,163 50 percent: Mining and metallurgical___________ 4,053 3, 299 3,227 3,762 3,082 3,072 Chemical and ceramic. ____________ 3, 839 3, 368 3,308 3, 525 3, 050 2,857 Mechanical and industrial__________ 3,663 3, 025 2,848 3, 777 2,929 2,645 Civil, agricultural, and architectural-_ 3,375 2,834 2,636 3,099 2,530 2, 362 Electrical_________ ______ ___ . . . 3,296 2, 863 2, 821 3, 213 2,627 2,517 75 percent: Mining and metallurgical___________ 2,841 2,013 2,029 2,829 2,013 1,947 Mechanical and industrial.. . _______ 2, 556 1,981 1, 952 2,902 1,930 1,837 Civil, agricultural, and architectural-. 2,541 2,009 1, 956 2,429 1, 860 1,747 Chemical and ceramic_____________ 2,538 2,178 2,195 2, 540 1, 885 1, 834 Electrical__________ _____ __________ 2,317 1,997 2,003 2,400 1,883 1,792 90 percent: Mining and metallurgical___________ 1,977 1,052 1, 279 2,030 1,210 1,283 Civil, agricultural, and architectural-_ 1,935 1,136 1,361 1, 910 1,028 1,152 Mechanical and industrial________ . 1,888 1, 212 1,245 2,170 1,040 1,169 Chemical and ceramic______________ 1, 657 1,443 1,458 1, 820 699 783 Electrical- _______________________ 1,609 1,311 1,308 1,860 1,185 1,088 1929 1932 1934 89 88 94 91 84 86 87 97 95 82 83 92 96 93 82 95 85 99 92 85 93 89 97 90 85 95 87 93 90 86 93 92 103 92 97 93 91 97 89 92 95 86 93 90 89 99 114 96 100 104 100 97 93 87 94 96 94 89 84 89 103 99 115 110 116 115 90 86 48 90 100 85 94 54 83 1 Includes those engineers who reported they were professionally active prior to 1930. 2 Graduate engineers include all postgraduates, nonengineering graduates, and first-degree engineering graduates. 3 “ Other” engineers include all engineers with college course incomplete, noncollegiate technical school course, and secondary school education. 4 Arrange in ascending order of graduates’ annual earnings for 1929. Consideration of the ratios derived from the 1929 earnings reported by the “ other” and graduate engineers clearly indicates that those with a formal engineering education had higher incomes. Thus, in the highest 10- and 25-percent income groups, the earnings of the graduates in each professional class exceeded those of the “ other” engineers. It will, however, be noted that there were wide variations in the ratios in the earnings of the two groups, indicating that the differentials in earnings do not accrue in equal measure for all five professional classes. In the upper 25-percent level, the order of yearly differences in favor of the graduates was $901, $696, $389, $324, and $67, the three smallest of these being in the electrical, mining and metal lurgical, and mechanical and industrial classes. In the highest income level, differences of $647 and $554 per year were reported by the grad uate electrical and mechanical and industrial engineers; in the three remaining professional classes none of the graduate groups reported 142 EM PLO YM EN T, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 - 3 4 differentials of less than $1,000 per year. In general, from 1929 to 1934, the earnings of the upper 25 percent of the older graduates and of the “ other” engineers declined by similar amounts. The advantage enjoyed by engineers with college degrees is less marked at the lower levels. The average income of mechanical en gineers in the profession in 1929 reporting income for 1929 was actually higher for noncollege graduates than for graduates. This was the only professional class of which this was true for the average, but, in general, the lowest 25 percent and the lowest 10 percent among the “ other” engineers had higher incomes than among the graduates. But even at these levels, it will be seen that an advantage accrued over the pe riod 1929 to 1934 to the college graduates. The income of the lowest 25 percent of those graduating prior to 1929 declined less than the income of the lowest 25 percent of the corresponding group of “ other” engineers, and by 1934 college graduates had the higher incomes even at this level. A n n u a l In com e R e la te d to A g e and T y p e o f E du cation The apparent advantage enjoyed in 1929 by the “ other” engineers at the lower levels of income may best be explained in conjunction with the data in tables 54 and 55. The data for the median values7 only of earned annual income of all engineers classified by age in the three years, 1929, 1932, and 1934 are presented in table 54.8 The first observation to be made has regard to the fact that the “ other” engineers, at a very early age, lose the advantage in earning capacity arising from practical experience gained while the college graduate is in school. This loss of advantage is best exemplified by considering the ranking order of the 12 groups of engineers at corre sponding years after graduation (table 55). 7 The middle value of earned annual income—50 percent earning more and 50 percent earning less than the figure shown. 8Insufficient data were furnished for the two lower and higher income levels to enable a complete com parison for all age groups and all types of education. EARNED AN N U AL INCOMES OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS a b l e 54 .— M edian annual earnings in 1929, 1982, and 1984 of all engineers reporting, by age and type of education [Without regard to employment status reported] Secondary-school education I Mechanical and all I others8 (0 1889-96 1897-04 1905-12 1913-16 41+ 33-40 25-32 17-24 13-16 (2) 6,030 5, 320 5,000 4,286 6,000 5,500 5,663 5,000 4,933 (2) 6,450 6, 600 6, 429 6,021 4,460 4,981 4,804 4,411 3,964 (2) 5,580 5,460 5,239 4,480 5,100 6,255 5,793 5,434 4,878 4,800 6,180 5,200 5,400 4,825 3,400 3,733 3, 774 3, 565 3, 328 5,700 4,933 5,179 4, 579 4,031 (2) 3,657 3, 514 3, 500 3,168 (2) 4,440 4,714 4,246 3,889 3,800 4,120 4, 333 3,708 3,625 32-35______ 28-31______ 26-27____ _ 24-25______ 23________ 1917-20 1921-24 1925-26 1927-28 1929 9-12 5-8 3-4 1-2 0 3,608 3,164 2,565 2,008 1,040 4,086 3,072 2,675 1, 978 1,500 4, 523 3, 544 2, 729 2,007 1,200 3,616 3,122 2,579 2,150 1, 256 4,048 3,190 2,505 1,977 996 4,057 3, 354 2, 616 2,099 1,146 4,600 3, 306 2, 840 2,086 1,175 3,036 2, 614 2, 410 2,127 2,062 3,793 3,200 2,468 2,232 2,129 3,121 2, 574 2,400 2,200 1,780 3,448 2,925 2,482 2,144 1,950 3,267 2, 814 2, 250 2,100 1,900 Electrical 64 and over. 56-63______ 48-55______ 40-47______ 36-39______ Age Civil, agricultural, and architectural Civil, agricultural, and architectural Noncollegiate techni cal course Mechanical and all others 3 College course incomplete Civil, agricultural, j and architectural i Mining and metal lurgical Mechanical and J industrial 1 Years after grad ua tion First-degree engineering graduates Chemical and ce ramic ! Year of grad uation Nonengineering graduates Others with— Postgraduates T 143 1929 income (in dollars) 1932 income (in dollars) 44+ 36-43 28-35 20-27 16-19 67 and over. 59-66______ 51-58______ 43-50______ 39-42______ (0 1889-96 1897-04 1905-12 1913-16 35-38______ 31-34______ 29-30______ 27-28______ 26________ 1917-20 12-15 3,377 1921-24 8-11 2, 882 6-7 2,472 1925-26 4-5 2,029 1927-28 3 1,794 1929 25________ 24_________ 23_________ 1930 1931 1932 (2) 5,160 4,757 4,155 3,745 3,000 (2) 3,600 (2) 4,600 (2) 4,090 4, 733 5,000 5,200 3, 761 4, 677 4, 475 5,320 3,533 4, 214 4,222 4,657 3, 318 3,877 5,200 4,700 4,189 4,070 3,800 1,100 5,000 3,940 4,222 3,700 2,600 2, 950 2,969 3,038 2,702 4,600 3,600 3, 688 3, 631 3,162 (2) 2,933 2,846 2, 777 2,709 (2) 3,400 3, 550 3,241 2, 968 3, 467 3, 433 3, 650 3,178 3,173 3,600 2,945 2,655 2,167 1,800 3, 470 2, 861 2,403 1,985 1,716 3, 444 2, 744 2,200 1,940 1,560 2,518 2,406 2,090 1,932 1,657 3,029 2,563 2,105 1,906 1, 638 2, 475 2,173 1,971 1, 836 1,900 2, 682 2,310 2,000 1, 686 1,600 2,720 2,488 2,057 1,840 1,350 3, 773 3,167 2,580 2,064 1,773 3,048 2, 628 2, 343 2,124 1,896 3,509 2,807 2,309 1,992 1,660 2 1, 378 1, 575 1,628 1,709 1, 451 1,495 1,492 1,709 1, 373 1,700 1, 450 1,633 1, 600 1,700 948 1, 367 1,208 1,349 1,032 1,247 1,147 1,620 1, 390 (2) 1 480 1,433 1,183 (2) 687 1,800 606 629 586 645 1,400 (2) 0 1934 income (in dollars) 69 and over. 61-68______ 53-60______ 45-52______ 41-44______ 46+ 0) 1889-96i 38-45 1897-04 30-37 1905-12• 22-29 1913-16i 18-21 3,100 (2) 3,200 4,400 (2) 3, 567 4,400 5,100 3,337 4,088 5,000 3, 311 4,467 4, 111 3,129 (2) 4,143 4,400 4,089 3,917 3, 933 4,100 3, 731 3, 875 3,538 1,200 4, 333 3,900 4,086 3,588 2,000 2,800 2, 787 2,780 2, 496 3,400 2, 900 3,493 3, 497 2,990 (2) 2, 600 2, 429 2, 533 2,420 2,000 2, 460 3,364 2, 974 2, 713 3,100 3,133 3, 508 2, 940 3,031 37-40______ 33-36______ 31-32______ 29-30______ 28_________ 1917-20i 14-19| 3,250 3, 575 3,850 2,826 1921-24: 10-13 2,864 2,857 3,244 2, 516 1925-26i 8-9' 2,513 2,475 2,586 2,263 1927-28l 6-7 2,072 2,200 2,225 2,069 1929i 5i 1,888 1,871 1,982 1,892 3, 393 2, 801 2, 364 2,021 1,759 3, 278 2,704 2, 378 2,058 1,908 3, 567 2,811 2, 463 2,100 1,809 2, 354 2,147 1, 974 1.875 1, 678 2, 890 2, 432 2,093 1,911 1,808 2, 286 2,036 1, 863 1,567 1,867 2, 543 2,161 1,957 1,738 1,525 2, 711 2, 356 1,900 1,860 1, 575 4 1,563 1,800 1,795 1,762 3 1,437 1,457 1,426 1, 545 2! 1,255 1,233 1,286 1, 384 1 840' 1,314 1,162 1,249 567 638 0i 612! 1,000' 1, 527 1,263 1,138 1,047 540 1, 719 1,433 1, 261 1,126 560 1, 542 1, 479 1,241 1,159 564 1, 518 1, 567 1,388 1,283 1,200 1,500 1,800 1,433 1, 660 1, 633 1,400 1,467 1,800 1,400 (2) 1,367 (2) 1, 267 (2) 1,600 (2) 1,089 (2) 1,263 1,325 27_________ 26_________ 25_________ 24_________ 23_________ 1930i 1931 1932! 1933 1934 (2) 4,333 4,488 3,923 3, 517 1 Prior to 1889. 2 Fewer than 10 persons reported. 3 Includes chemical and ceramic, electrical, industrial, and mining and metallurgical engineers. 14 4 EM P L O Y M E N T , EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 - 3 4 C hart 10. COMPARISON OF MEDIANS OF EARNED ANNUAL INCOME ACCORDING TO AGE. 1929 INCOME FROM ENGINEERING AND NONENGINEERING SERVICES. INCLUDING FU LL AND PART TIME EMPLOYMENT FOR SPECIFIC TYPES OF EDUCATION DOLLARS DOLLARS 13,000 / 3,000 1. P O S T G R A D U A T E S 2 . N O N E N G IN E E R IN G G R A D U A TE S 12,000 11,000 FirstDegreeEngineering Graduates 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. - C H E M IC A L A N D C E R A M IC C IV IL , A G R IC U L T U R A L A ND A R C H IT E C T U R A L E L E C T R IC A L M ECHA NICAL A N D IN D U S T R IA L M IN IN G A N D M E TALLU RG IC AL 12,000 11,000 College Course Incomplete ft C IV IL . A G R IC U L TU R A L A N D A R C H IT E C T U R A L 9. M E C H A N IC A L A N D O T H E R S 10,000 Noncollegiate Technical Course 10,000 10. C IV IL A G R IC U L T U R A L A N D A R C H IT E C T U R A L 11. M E C H A N IC A L AND O T H E R S 12. S EC O N D A R Y S C H O O L E D U C A TIO N 9,000 - 9,000 6,000 8,000 7,000 7,000 3 \ 6,000 6,000 «T 5^ - 5,000 4,000 - 4,000 3,000 - 3,000 2,000 - 2JOOO 1,000 - 1,000 5,000 ^ ,// A g e IN YEARS 23j 25 2 7 Years After Graduation 30 34 r U. S. Bureau of L abor Statistic s v EARNED ANNUAL INCOME'S OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS 145 T a b l e 55 .— R a n k o f en gineers o f specified education according to m edian a nnua l earnings in 1 9 2 9 and 1 9 3 4 , f o r corresp on d in g yea rs after graduation [Without regard to employment status reported] Years after graduation Type of education 2 5 10 20 30 37 2 10 l Rank in 1929 20 30 37 5 Annual earnings in 1929 College course incomplete: Mechanical and others^___________________________ 1 8 6 7 7 8 $2, 232 $2,650 $3, 580 $4,425 $5,100 $4,933 Noncollegiate technical course: Civil, agricultural, and architectural____________ . 2 11 11 12 12 12 2,200 2,450 2,950 3,425 3,550 3,657 First-degree engineering graduates: Civil, agricultural, and architectural______ _ 3 5 7 8 8 7 2,150 2,750 3,490 4,300 4,800 4,981 Noncollegiate technical course: Mechanical and others1.. _ - __________________ 4 9 9 9 9 9 2,144 2,600 3, 300 4,190 4,650 4,440 College course incomplete: Civil, agricultural, and architectural_______________ _ 5 10 12 11 11 11 2,127 2, 475 2,900 3,500 3, 750 3,733 Secondary-school education_______________ 6 12 10 10 10 10 2,100 2,430 3,150 3,700 4,275 4,120 First-degree engineering graduates: Mechanical and industrial______ ____ 7 3 3 2 2 2 2,099 2,825 3,875 5,350 5,800 6, 255 Mining and metallurgical_____________ 8 2 2 3 6 3 2,086 2,975 4,200 5, 300 5, 350 6,180 Postgraduates____ ______________________ 9 6 8 6 5 4 2,008 2,750 3, 475 4,850 5, 375 6,030 First-degree engineering graduates: Chemi cal and ceramic_________________ _____ 10 1 1 1 1 1 2,007 3,000 4, 250 6, 350 6,600 6.450 Nonengineering graduates____________ ___ 11 4 5 5 3 6 1,978 2,800 3,800 4,990 5,600 5,500 First-degree engineering graduates: Elec trical_________________________________ 12 7 4 4 4 5 1,977 2,725 3,800 5,075 5,450 5,580 Rank in 1934 Annual earnings in 1934 Secondary-school education_______________ 1 9 9 8 9 8 $1,550 $1,625 $2,025 $3,031 $3,200 $3,350 Noncollegiate technical course: Mechanical and others1___________________________ 2 12 10 10 10 10 1,475 1,475 2,010 2, 713 3,150 2,980 College course incomplete: Mechanical and others1__________________________ _____ 3 10 8 9 7 9 1, 350 1,600 2,200 2,990 3,490 3,200 Noncollegiate technical course: Civil, agri cultural, and architectural______________ 4 2 12 12 12 12 (2) 1,830 1,900 2,420 2,490 2,490 First-degree engineering graduates: Civil, agricultural, and architectural__________ 5 5 7 7 8 7 1,325 1,800 2, 350 3,129 3, 300 3,400 College course incomplete: Civil, agricul tural, and architectural----------------- -------- 6 n 11 11 11 11 1,300 1,600 2,000 2,496 2, 780 2,790 Nonengineering graduates_____ ___________ 7 3 3 1 2 3 1, 275 1,825 2,600 4,467 4,250 4, 400 First-degree engineering graduates: 8 l 1 2 1 1 1,250 1,875 2, 750 4,111 5,050 (2) Chemical and ceramic___ --- ______ Mining and metallurgical_____________ 9 7 4 4 5 5 1,200 1,700 2, 550 3,588 3,980 4,050 Mechanical and industrial. _ _________ 10 4 6 5 6 6 1,180 1,825 2, 490 3,538 3,780 3,880 Electrical___________________________ 11 8 5 ,3 3 4 1,080 1, 650 2, 500 3,917 4,250 4, 325 940 1, 750 2,610 3, 517 4,175 4, 425 Postgraduates- ----------------------- ------------ 12 6 2 6 4 2 1Includes chemical and ceramic, electrical, industrial, and mining and metallurgical engineers. 2Fewer than 10 engineers reported. A t the end of 2 years after graduation 9 in 1929, the “ other” engi neers held ranks 1, 2, 4, 5, and 6, the first-degree civil graduates were third, and the remaining graduate groups occupied positions 7 to 12, inclusive. Five years after graduation, however, there was a com plete reversal of this situation, which placed all graduates ahead of the “ other” engineers. Eelatively, the greatest shifts in position occurred between the second and fifth years after graduation. Secondary-school engineers dropped from sixth to twelfth place. The noncollegiate civil engineers declined from second to eleventh place, while the civil engineers whose 9 The incomes reported just after graduation are not compared. These are invalidated by the fact that, while the graduates could have reported incomes for 6 months only, it was possible for the “ other” engineers to have reported an income for a full year or more. 146 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 -3 4 college course was incomplete declined from fifth to tenth place. Positions 8 and 9, respectively, were occupied by the mechanical engineers whose college course was incomplete and by those who were graduates of noncollegiate technical schools; 2 years after graduation they had held first and fourth places. Among the engineering grad uates, the greatest shift in position occurred among the first-degree chemical and ceramic engineers, who moved from tenth to first place at 5 years after graduation, and maintained that position throughout the 1929 age cycle. It will also be noted that the 1929 earnings reported by the first-degree civil engineers were greater at 5 years after graduation than those of both postgraduates and first-degree electrical engineers. On the other hand, the earnings of these three groups were less than those reported by first-degree mining and metal lurgical, and mechanical and industrial engineers, and nonengineering graduates. Thus, it follows that the greater decline from 1929 to 1934 in the incomes of the lower 10 and 25 percent of the “ other” engineers re flects in part the greater advantage of 5 years' additional experience among the younger college graduates. Between 5 and 10 years after graduation, there were but slight changes in relative position. A t the latter period, however, all firstdegree and nonengineering graduates were ahead of the postgraduate engineers. The secondary-school engineers reported earnings greater than either of the two groups of “ other” civil engineers. The “ other” mechanical engineers trained in noncollegiate technical schools fol lowed ninth in order, after the postgraduates. A t 20 years after graduation, the first-degree civil engineers ranked below both the “ other” mechanical engineers whose college course was incomplete and the postgraduate engineers; between 20 and 37 years after graduation, the relative standing of the several groups remained comparatively stable. It will also be noted that even in 1934 the order of the groups shows no marked departure from the situation which prevailed in 1929. A further explanation may be given of the apparent advantage of “ other” engineers in the lower income levels, as shown in table 53. There are too few cases to warrant showing text tables of income for the lowest 10 and 25 percent of the engineers classified simultaneously by professional classifications, age, and type of education. But such values have been computed for every such classification embracing more than 100 reports and the results may be summarized. In 1929, at every age, the lowest 10 percent of the civil engineers with incom plete college courses had lower incomes than the lowest 10 percent of those with completed college courses. This continued to be true in 1934 for engineers who graduated prior to 1928, the last year with an adequate number of reports to warrant this particular comparison. EARNED ANNUAL INCOMES OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS 147 For the five age groups from 28 to 47 for which comparisons can be made, the lowest 10 percent of civil engineers with noncollegiate technical school courses had lower incomes than those with incomplete college courses. These statements hold, not only for the lowest 10 percent of the civil engineers but also for the lowest 25 percent. There are not enough cases of engineers in the professional classes, other than civil engineers, to warrant a detailed analysis of nongrad uates on an age basis for the separate classes. But the income of the lowest 10 and 25 percent of the nongraduates of the four classes combined is less than the corresponding level of income for graduates in any of the professional classes at almost all ages for which com parisons can be made. It seems highly probable, in the light of these facts, that part of the advantage shown by “ other” engineers in table 53 is due to a higher age among the nongraduates in the groups com pared. Table 55 also shows that, although the earnings reported in 1929 by the “ other” engineers at 2 years after graduation were higher than those of the graduates, the differentials were not great. For the former, the 1929 median earnings ranged from $2,100 in the case of secondary-school engineers to $2,232 for mechanical engineers who had not completed their college course, while the range for the latter was from $1,977 for electrical to $2,099 for mechanical and industrial engineers. A t 5 years after graduation, when the positions were reversed, the differentials were still slight. The earnings of the grad uates ranged from $2,725 to $3,000 per year and those of the “ other” engineers from $2,430 to $2,650. With advancing age, however, the spreads in earnings in favor of the graduates became very marked. In the case of mechanical engineers, for instance, the differences in earnings between the first-degree engineers and those who did not complete their college course were $175, $295, $925, $700, and $1,322 per year, and between first-degree and noncollegiate mechanical engineers they were $225, $575, $1,160, $1,150, and $1,815 per annum. Similarly, for the civil engineers, the differences in earnings between those with firstdegrees and those whose college course was incomplete were $275, $590, $800, $1,050, and $1,248 per year, while between first-degree civil and noncollegiate technical school engineers, the order was $300, $540, $875, $1,250, and $1,324 per annum. Even among the graduate groups there was variation in earning capacity. Thus, while the earnings of first-degree civil engineers ranged from $2,750 to $4,800 per year between 5 and 30 years after graduation, the range for the first-degree chemical and ceramic en gineers was from $3,000 to $6,600 per year. In other words, over a period of 25 years, the civil engineers* earnings increased by only $2,050, whereas those of engineers in the chemical and ceramic field increased by $3,600. The ranges in earnings of the remaining graduate 148 E M P LO YM E N T, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 - 3 4 groups fell between those reported by the civil and the chemical and ceramic engineers. Earnings of the 4‘other” engineers ceased to increase several years before those of the graduates. Their earnings began to decline after 55 years of age in 1929, whereas the earnings of the graduates continued to increase even at 64 years of age and over (table 54). When consideration is given to the changes in income status between 1929 and 1934 of selected age groups of engineers in each type of edu cation, it appears, again, that the depression bore hardest upon the older engineers. As indicated in table 56, over the period 1929-34 the decreases in earnings of engineers who were 60 years of age in 1929 and 65 in 1934 ranged from 20 to 45 percent. The smallest range, however, oc curred among the graduate engineers. This is explained by the fact that for the “ other” engineers, the earnings reported at the age of 60 in 1929 were those for the period of decline, since they were less than those reported for engineers who were 52 in 1929. When, how ever, comparison is made of the earnings for the 2 age groups of engineers who were 52 and 44, respectively, in 1929 and 5 years older in 1934, it will be noted that the decreases in their earnings over the period 1929-34 show little variation. The important thing to note is that the effect of the depression was approximately the same on both graduates and “ other” engineers. On the other hand, for the 2 younger groups shown in table 56, the graduate engineers who were 25 in 1929, practically all showed increases in their earnings by 1934, whereas the “ other” engineers showed further decreases. This situa tion was even more pronounced in favor of the graduate engineers who were 23% years of age in 1929. Throughout the whole of this analysis of differences in earnings by type of education, there have only been incidental references to the changes which occurred over the period 1929-34 and in the intervening periods, 1929-32 and 1932-34. It will be recalled, however, that the percentage decreases in the incomes for all engineers at corresponding years after graduation were practically the same. This was also the case for the 12 groups of engineers when segregated by type of educa tion, as is evidenced by a consideration of the data shown in table 57. A t 5 years after graduation the range of decreases of earnings over the period 1929-34 was from 25 to 43 percent. At 10 years after graduation, the range was from 25 to 39 percent, while even at 30 years after graduation the percentage decreases ranged only from 22 to 35 percent. It will, however, be noted that the extremes of the ranges are the exception, indicating that regardless of types of education, the incomes of engineers of identical ages in 1929 and 1934 suffered about the same from the depression. T a b l e 5 6 . — C om p a rison o f m edian annual earnings in 1 9 2 9 , 1 9 3 2 , and 1 9 3 4 ° f selected age grou ps o f en gineers rep ortin g, by typ e o f education [Without regard to employment status reported] Type of education 60 in 1929 63 in 1932 66 in 1934 52 in 1929 55 in 1932 57 in 1934 44 in 1929 49 in 47 in 1932 j 1934 25 in 1929 28 in 1932 30 in 1934 23*$ in 26*$ in 28*$ in 1929 1932 1934 Median annual earnings Postgraduates________________________ Nonengineering graduates_____________ M First-degree engineering graduates: Chemical and ceramic_____________ Civil, agricultural, and architectural. Electrical________________________ Mechanical and industrial_________ Mining and metallurgical_________ College course incomplete: Civil, agricultural, and architectural. Mechanical and others i___________ Noncollegiate technical course: Civil, agricultural, and architectural. Mechanical and others 1___________ Secondary-school education___________ m $6,030 5,500 $5,160 4,600 $4, 333 4, 400 $5,320 5, 663 $4,757 5,000 $4,488 4,400 $5,000 5,000 $4,155 4,475 $3,923 4,088 $2,008 1,978 $2,029 2,167 $2,072 2,200 $1,040 1,500 $1,794 1,800 $1,888 1,871 6,450 4,981 5, 580 6, 255 6,180 w 4,090 4, 733 4,700 5,000 (2) 3, 567 4,143 4,100 4,333 6,600 4,804 5,460 5,793 5,200 5,200 3,761 4,677 4,189 3, 940 5,100 3, 337 4,400 3, 731 3,900 6,429 4,411 5,239 5, 434 5,400 5,320 3, 533 4,214 4,070 4,222 5,000 3, 311 4,089 3,875 4,086 2,007 2,150 1,977 2,099 2,086 2, 064 2,124 1,992 1,985 1,940 2,225 2, 069 2,021 2,058 2,100 1,200 1, 256 996 1,146 1,175 1, 773 1,896 1,660 1, 716 1,560 1,982 1,892 1,759 1,908 1,809 3, 733 4,933 2,950 3,600 2,800 2,900 3, 774 5,179 2,969 3,688 2,787 3,493 3,565 4,579 3,038 3,631 2,780 3,497 2,127 2, 232 1,932 1, 906 1,875 1,911 2,062 2,129 1,657 1,638 1,678 1,808 3,657 4,440 4,120 2,933 3,400 3,433 2,600 2,460 3,133 3, 514 4, 714 4, 333 2,846 3, 550 3, 650 2,429 3, 364 3, 508 3,500 4, 246 3,708 2, 777 3, 241 3,178 2, 533 2,974 2,940 2,200 2,144 2,100 1,836 1, 686 1,840 1,567 1,738 1, 860 1, 780 1,950 1,900 1,900 1,600 1, 350 1,867 1,525 1, 575 Percentage change 1929-34 1929-32 1932-34 1929-34 1929-32 1932-34 1929-34 1929-32 1932-34 1929-34 1929-32 1932-34 1929-34 1929-32 1932-34 Postgraduates________________________ Nonengineering graduates_____________ First-degree engineering graduates: Chemical and ceramic_____________ Civil, agricultural, and architectural. Electrical_________________________ Mechanical and industrial_________ Mining and metallurgical__________ College course incomplete: Civil, agricultural, and architectural. Mechanical and others 1____________ Noncollegiate technical course: Civil, agricultural, and architectural. Mechanical and others 1___________ Secondary-school education____________ -1 4 -1 6 -1 6 -4 -1 6 -2 2 -1 1 -1 2 -6 -1 2 -2 2 -1 8 -1 7 -11 -6 -9 +3 +11 +1 +10 +2 +2 +82 +25 +73 +20 +5 +4 (2) -28 -26 -34 -3 0 (2) -18 -1 5 -2 5 -19 (2) -1 3 -1 2 -13 -13 -2 3 -31 -1 9 -3 6 -2 5 -21 -2 2 -1 4 -2 8 -2 4 -2 -11 -6 -11 -1 -2 2 -2 5 -2 2 -2 9 -2 4 -17 -20 -2 0 -2 5 -2 2 -6 -6 -3 -5 -3 +11 -4 +2 -2 +1 +3 -1 +1 -5 -7 +8 -3 +1 +4 +8 +65 +51 +77 +66 +54 +48 +51 +67 +50 +33 +12 0 +6 +11 +16 -25 -41 -21 -2 7 -5 -1 9 -2 6 -3 3 -21 -2 9 -6 -5 -2 2 -2 4 -1 5 -2 1 -8 -4 -1 2 -1 4 -9 -1 5 -3 0 -19 -15 -2 0 -2 3 +1 +10 -29 -45 -24 -20 -23 -17 -1 1 -28 -9 -3 1 -2 9 -1 9 -1 9 -2 5 -1 6 -1 5 -5 -4 -28 -3 0 -21 -21 -2 4 -1 4 -9 -8 -7 -2 9 -1 9 -11 -1 7 -21 -1 2 -1 5 +3 +1 +5 -22 -1 7 +7 -1 8 -2 9 -2 —5 +17 1Includes chemical and ceramic, electrical, industrial and mining and metallurgical engineers. 2 Fewer than 10 engineers reported. 149 -28 -2 0 EARNEL AN N U AL INCOMES OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS 285208°— 41 Engineers whose ages were— 150 E M P LO YM E N T, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 - 3 4 m ed ia n annual ea rn in g s , 1 9 2 9 to corresp on d in g yea rs after gradu ation , b y typ e o f education T a b l e 5 7 . — P ercentage decrease in 1 9 8 4 , fo r [Without regard to employment status reported] Type of education Percentage decrease in income, at end of specified period after graduation 2 years 5 years 10 years 20 years 30 years 37 years Postgraduates___ _________ _ _______ _ ______ -5 3 -3 6 -3 6 Nonengineering graduates _ __ ____ ___ ____ __ -3 5 First-degree engineering graduates: -3 8 -3 8 Chemical and ceramic. __ . _ __ ________ 8 _______ and-3 -35 _ Civil, agricultural, architectural-4 5 -39 Electrical _ _ __ _______ __ ___ ______ -4 4 -35 Mechanical and industrial. _ _ _________ -4 2 -43 Mining and metallurgical ____ _ _______ _ College course incomplete: -3 9 -3 5 Civil, agricultural, and architectural--________ -4 0 -40 Mechanical and others 1 - __________ Noncollegiate technical course: -2 5 Civil, agricultural, and architectural__________ _ 00 -31 -4 3 Mechanical and others1 . __ __ -2 6 -3 3 Secondary-school education _ ____ ____ _ __ -2 5 -3 2 -2 7 —10 -2 2 —24 —27 —20 -3 5 _-3 _ 3 -3 4 -36 -3 9 -3 5 —27 -2 3 -3 4 -3 2 -2 3 —31 -2 2 -3 5 -2 6 00 —32 —22 -38 -3 4 -31 -3 9 -2 9 —32 -2 6 —32 —25 —35 -3 6 -3 9 -3 6 -2 9 -3 5 -1 8 -3 0 -3 2 -2 5 —32 —33 -1 9 1 Includes chemical and ceramic, electrical, industrial and mining, and metallurgical engineers. * Fewer than 10 engineers reported in 1934. Sources of Earned Annual Income, 1929 to 1934 Before presenting the annual incomes from all kinds of engineering work and nonengineering work attention is directed to the following: It must be noted that the requirements of editing the questionnaires caused a relatively large proportion of the engineers engaged in non engineering work in 1929 to be those who had college degrees in engi neering. Thus, elsewhere it has been shown that the general m ove ment from 1929 to 1934 was out of engineering work either into unemployment or into work not in the engineering field. Conse quently a substantial number of those who were in pursuits other than engineering in 1929 would also have so reported in 1932 and 1934. Such returns from nonengineering graduates and “ other” engineers were, in general, discarded. Therefore, the tabulations for non engineering work in 1929 tend to be those of graduate engineers. On the other hand, a number of nongraduates who were practicing their profession in 1929 passed into nonengineering employment in 1932 and 1934. The schedules for such engineers were retained. Clearly the situation which prevailed in 1929 was less true in 1932 and 1934. Hence, it is as well to compare the earnings for nonengineering both with the earnings of graduates and with those of all persons reporting who were engaged in engineering. These data are presented in table 58. T a b l e 58.— C om p a rison o f 5 levels o f annual earnings in 1 9 2 9 , 1 9 3 2 , and 1 9 3 4 f r o m n on en gin eerin g and en gin eerin g w ork , b y age Age Year of graduation 10 percent Years after NonEngineering grad engi work by— uation neering work All by all All engi engi grad neers 1 neers 1 uates 25 percent 50 percent 75 percent 90 percent Engineering Nonengi work by— neering work All All by all engi- ‘ engi grad neers 1 neers 1 uates Engineering Nonengi work by— neering work All All by all engi grad engi neers 1 neers 1 uates Engineering Non work by— engi neering work All All by all grad engi engi neers 1 neers 1 uates Non Engineering work by— engi neering work All All by all engi engi grad neers 1 neers 1 uates 1929 income (in dollars) 64 years and over 56-63 years_____ 48-55 years_____ 40-47 years_____ 36-39 years_____ Prior to 1889_ _ 1889-96______ 1897-1904_____ 1905-12______ 1913-16______ 41+--(2) 33-40._ (2) 25-32-_ 12,495 17-24- 12,424 13-16- 10,140 32-36 years_____ 28-31 years_____ 26-27 years_____ 24-25 years_____ 23 years________ 1917-20______ 1921-24______ 1925-26______ 1927-28______ 1929_________ 9-12— 5-8— 3-4___ 1-2___ 0_____ 8,052 5,460 4,170 2,910 2,496 9,937 12, 625 11,709 9,815 7,751 10,148 13,516 12,478 10,088 8, 294 (3) 7,155 7,867 8,106 6,620 6,917 7,500 7,108 6,407 5,680 7,346 7,955 7,610 6,747 6,099 2,400 4,400 5,057 5,346 4,347 4,476 4,979 4,912 4,562 4,102 4,971 5,590 5,232 4,876 4, 353 (3) 2,893 3,494 3,408 3, 013 3,060 3,422 3,481 3,405 3, 210 3,469 3, 760 3, 777 3,624 3,354 (2) (2) 2,280 2,420 1,998 1,957 2,420 2,661 2,705 2,582 2,413 2,624 3,020 2,936 2,756 6,480 4,753 3,618 3,043 2,356 6,578 4,842 3,641 2,992 2,165 5, 502 4,099 3,075 2,344 1,973 4,814 3, 776 3,104 2, 501 1,933 4,988 3,847 3,124 2,477 1,858 3,685 3,042 2,331 1,786 1,500 3, 672 3,145 2,558 2,105 1,322 3,822 3,207 2,582 2,095 1,168 2, 792 2,349 1,821 1,407 936 3,010 2,577 2,164 1,834 888 3,146 2,664 2,200 1,831 862 1,945 1,642 1,308 889 446 2,458 2,150 1,850 1,476 502 2, 581 2,258 1,891 1,493 449 1932 income (in dollars) Prior to 1889_ _ 1889-96______ 1897-1904_____ 1905-12______ 1913-16______ 1917-20______ 1921-24______ 44+_36-4328-3520-27-_ 16-19_. 12-158-11 — (2) (2) 9,146 9,188 7,450 5,486 4,290 9,009 9,020 8,405 7,567 6,387 5,579 4, 332 9,386 9,643 9,008 7,979 6,700 5,858 4,415 (3) 5,000 5,069 5, 528 4, 980 3,675 3,007 6,032 6,252 5,892 5,242 4, 643 4,191 3, 457 6,363 6,589 6,163 5, 557 4,990 4,400 3, 546 3,000 2,550 3, Oil 3,129 2,800 2,320 1,963 3,846 4,126 4,046 3,742 3,490 3,223 2,790 4,100 4,689 4,411 4,007 3, 711 3, 381 2,885 (3) 1,200 1,395 1,528 1,602 1, 276 1,123 2, 242 2,640 2,823 2, 720 2,604 2, 475 2,195 2, 469 3,143 3, 119 2,968 2,854 2,664 2, 299 (2) (2) 525 736 809 587 490 1,145 1, 300 1,807 1,903 1,926 1,851 1, 619 1,233 1,571 1,989 1,999 2,090 1,999 1,728 29-30 years______ 27-28 years_____ 26 years________ 25 years_________ 24 years_________ 23 years_________ 1925-26______ 1927-28______ 1929________ 1930_________ 1931_________ 1932_________ 6-7— 4-5— 3 ___ 2____ 1____ 0_____ 3, 301 2,463 2,034 1,930 1,766 1,689 3, 501 3,005 2, 518 2,167 2,039 1, 910 3,565 3, 021 2, 504 2,155 2,014 1,826 2,465 1,908 1, 585 1,465 1,348 1,240 2,934 2,504 2,140 1,946 1,742 1, 335 2,799 2,521 2,134 1,941 1, 725 1,243 1, 639 1,319 1,045 1,069 921 814 2, 411 2,103 1,871 1,662 1,394 766 2, 455 2,128 1,878 1,658 1,381 716 964 765 570 585 470 406 1,942 1,702 1,523 1,325 1,024 383 1,990 1, 751 1,546 1,324 1,008 358 454 306 228 234 188 163 1,468 1,257 1,119 937 539 153 1,533 1, 310 1,169 927 515 143 See footnotes at end of table. 151 67 years and over. 59-66 years_____ 51-58 years_____ 43-50 years_____ 39-42 years_____ 35-38 years_____ 31-34 years_____ EARNED AN N U AL INCOMES OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS Proportion with annual earnings of more than specified amount as derived from— Age Year of graduation 10 percent Years after Engineering Nongrad work by— engi uation neering work All All by all engi engi grad neers 1 neers 1 uates 25 percent 50 percent 75 percent 90 percent Engineering Nonengi work by— neering work All All by all engi engi grad neers 1 neers 1 uates Engineering Nonwork by— engi neering work All All by all grad engi engi neers 1 neers 1 uates Engineering Nonwork by— engi neering work All by all AH engi grad engi neers 1 neers 1 uates NonEngineering engi work by— neering work All All by all engi engi grad neers i neers 1 uates 1934 income (in dollars) 69 years and over. 61-68 years______ 63-60 years______ 45-52 years______ 41-44 years______ Prior to 1889_ _ 1889-96______ 1897-1904_____ 1905-12______ 1913-16______ 46+__ 38-45.. 30-37.. 22-29.. 18-21.. (2) (2) 7,848 9,171 7,293 7,367 8,460 7,951 7,230 6,221 7,570 9,372 8,548 7, 665 6,542 (3) (3) 4,147 5,426 4,576 5,155 5,700 5,443 4,980 4,518 5,513 6,264 5,841 5,271 4,863 2,500 2,200 2,523 3,040 2,892 3,292 3,793 3,745 3,524 3,319 3,700 4,280 4,095 3,788 3,540 (3) (3) 1,305 1,579 1,667 1,861 2,294 2, 520 2, 526 2,471 2,225 2,625 2,751 2,688 2, 655 (2) (2) 631 921 1,042 1,050 1,105 1, 558 1,826 1,829 1,229 1,160 1,711 1,893 1,966 37-40 years. 33-36 years. 31-32 years. 29-30 years. 28 years___ 1917-20. 1921-24. 1925-26. 1927-28. 1929___ 14-17.. 10-13.. 8-9__-_ 0-7___ 5_____ 5,560 4,101 3,560 2,658 2,209 5,393 4,323 3,554 3,066 2,635 5, 656 4,405 3,601 3,120 2,658 3,667 3,055 2,468 2,028 1,764 4,058 3,387 2,892 2,507 2,209 4,278 3,499 2,949 2,533 2,227 2,414 1,992 1,700 1,439 1,296 3,101 2,676 2,380 2,106 1,929 3,271 2,801 2,442 2,141 1,946 1,514 1,276 1,123 1,015 934 2,379 2,113 1,929 1,745 1,593 2, 525 2,219 2,002 1,806 1, 621 848 694 526 500 431 1,839 1,625 1, 513 1,298 1,244 1,960 1, 752 1,581 1, 362 1,266 27 years. 26 years. 25 years. 24 years. 23 years. 1930 1931 1932 1933 1934 4_____ 3_____ 2_____ 1_____ 0_____ 2,149 2,028 1, 793 1, 664 1, 388 2,370 2,155 2,002 1,911 1,391 2,371 2,146 1,999 1,895 1,311 1,621 1, 536 1,442 1,325 1,093 2,044 1,900 1,701 1,562 976 2,044 1,895 1,693 1,551 939 1,224 1,171 1,113 991 744 1,789 1, 578 1,396 1,272 642 1, 797 1,571 1,392 1,265 617 889 835 815 606 372 1,431 1,265 1,107 960 321 1,443 1,261 1,104 954 309 408 352 336 242 149 1,083 954 837. 526 128 1,093 949 835 520 123 __ __ __ __ __ 1 Includes all graduates and all “ other” engineers. 2 Between 50 and 100 engineers reported. 2 Between 10 and 50 engineers reported. EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 -3 4 Proportion with annual earnings of more than specified amount as derived from— 15 2 T a b l e 58.— C om p a rison o f 5 levels o f annual earnings in 1 9 2 9 , 1 9 3 2 , and 1 9 3 4 f r o m non en gin eerin g and en gin eerin g w ork , b y age— Con. EARNED AN N U AL INCOMES OE PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS 153 Caution should be exercised in comparing earnings with various types of employment in 1929, 1932, and 1934. The earnings of all engineers in engineering work reflect best the changes in what was being paid for engineering services. Both sets of figures of engineering earnings do reflect changes in the rates for given kinds and qualities of work. This is not true of the earnings from nonengineering; they indicate merely what individual engineers were able to earn in mis cellaneous employments called “ nonengineering.” Conceivably such persons might all have been managers of industrial establishments in 1929 and gasoline-station attendants in 1932. Obviously a decrease in earnings from nonengineering employment would not then measure the fall in earnings of industrial managers. Actually the changes reflect the composite effect of a lowering of pay for various types of nonengineering work and a lowering of the quality of nonengineering work that was accepted as an alternative to unemployment. Finally, among those reported at the end of the year as engaged in both engineering and nonengineering, there were some who suffered unemployment during part of the year. Inasmuch as unemployment was far more common in 1932 and 1934 than in 1929, this accounts for part of the decreases in annual incomes previously noted for both engineering and nonengineering. As regards engineering, rate change alone will be more fully analyzed later when monthly earnings from engineering employment are presented.10 Incomes from Engineering and Nonengineering W ork The first significant point of comparison between the incomes in 1929 of engineers engaged in engineering and those in nonengineering work is that the earnings of the latter showed greater dispersion. Thus, among engineers 40 to 47 years of age, 10 percent of those engaged in nonengineering earned more than $12,424 and 10 percent earned less than $2,420 per year. The respective annual incomes for similar proportions of all those in engineering work were $9,815 and $2,705; and of graduates in engineering $10,088 and $2,936. It seems apparent from these figures and others for 1929, that on the one hand many engineers were attracted out of engineering jobs by favorable opportunities, whereas, on the other hand, an almost equally large proportion dropped out of engineering work and were forced to find alternative employment. This point appears to be substantiated by a consideration of the variation in the relationship between engineering and nonengineering earnings in moving from the lowest to the highest of the 5 income levels. (Chart 11.) 10 In the present chapter it must be borne in mind that the influence of unemployment in decreasing annual income was probably somewhat more important among those who reported nonengineering work as the source of income. It has been stated that the major direction of flow was from engineering work into non engineering work. While some such transfers were made without an intervening period of unemployment, there must have been unemployment for many who lost engineering jobs and went into nonengineering work after failure to find work of an engineering nature. 154 E M P L O Y M E N T , EARNINGS---- ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 - 3 4 Only at the lowest 10-percent income group or level did engineering incomes exceed those from nonengineering work at all ages for which comparison can be made. A t the middle levels the engineering in comes were greater than nonengineering by only 10 percent at 25 and 27 years of age, and by only 5 percent at age 30. From this point the more rapid advance in average nonengineering earnings to a maximum at age 44 brought about an equalization of the incomes near to age 34 at a value of $3,700 per year. They again equalized at 54 years. That is, between 44 and 54 years, while the average returns from nonengi neering had declined from $5,346 to $4,900, those from engineering had advanced from $4,562 to $4,900. The advance in the latter continued to age 60, attaining a value of $4,979 per year, as against $4,400 for nonengineering at the same age. At the upper 10- and 25-percent income groups or levels, engineering work ceased to have an advantage over non engineering near to age 26. Thereafter the latter diverged upwards from the former to reach a maximum of $12,495 at age 52 at the highest level, and of $8,106 at age 44 in the case of the next lowest level. The corresponding values of engineering earnings were $11,709 and $6,407 per annum. The steady advance in engineering earnings, together with the declines in nonengineering earnings brought about an equalization of incomes at age 58. A second point of significance is that, in 1929, engineering work as such ultimately offered rewards as high as engineers were able to find in nonengineering. This arose primarily from the fact that the age of maximum earning power arrived more quickly for engineers in nonengineering than in engineering work. For at 48 to 55 years of age those college graduates who stayed in engineering were doing proportionately as well as those who had gone into nonengineering. This was true even at the highest income levels. The earnings of the upper 10 percent of the college graduates continued to advance from $10,088 at age 44 to $13,516 at 60. The average at these ages rose from $4,876 to $5,590, whereas the average from nonengineering fell from $5,346 to $4,400 between these ages. From the preceding analysis, therefore, it appears that in 1929 the tendency was for average annual incomes of engineers who engaged in nonengineering work to exceed slightly those from engineering work. Notwithstanding, it should be noted that the opportunities outside the engineering field did not embrace more than 7 percent of the total reporting in any one age classification. Furthermore, since there is no knowledge of the basis of selection, it cannot be said that non engineering earnings would have been greater or less for the engineer had he stayed in engineering work. The only justifiable assumption is that in 1929 there was a preference to remain in engineering by those in the two lower income groups or levels and a definite tendency to accept attractive openings in nonengineering work at the two EARNED AN N U A L INCOMES OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS 155 CHART II. EARNED ANNU AL INCOME OF PROFESSIONAL EN G IN EER S IN ENGINEERING AND NONENGINEERING WORK BY AGE IN 1929 PRIMARILY INCOME REPORTED BY GRADUATE ENGINEERS IN EITHER FU LL OR PART TIME EMPLOYMENT DOLLARS DOLLARS 14,000 T------ 14,000 ----- 1—I—r 13,000 13.000 13,000 13,000 11,000 10,000 10,000 9,000 9,000 6,000 6,000 7,000 7,000 6,000 6,000 5,000 5,000 4,000 3,000 3,000 3,000 3,000 1,000 - Aqe in Years 23\25 27 JO 34 Years After 7 II Graduation 2 4 No. inNoncncineering Work tot 159 149 239 299 No.inEngineerin4 Work 124521422192 3814 2/94 1,000 38 IS 239 2439 44 2/ 487 4394 52 29 188 1849 80 37 37 88 43 42 641 157 U. S. Bureau of L abor Statistics 156 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 -3 4 higher income levels. The turning point in this movement occurred near to the middle levels of income reported. Changes in In com e, 1929 to 1934 Earlier in this chapter the changes from 1929 to 1934 in the incomes of all engineers were analyzed on an age basis. The decreases noted were due partly to salary reductions on given jobs. They were also due to the fact that incomes were reduced by extended periods of unemployment and by the necessity for accepting poorer jobs. The purpose of the earlier discussion was to determine, for example, what happened between 1929 and 1934, on the average, to engineers 40 to 47 years of age. From the data presented in table 58 it is now possible to trace more precisely the influence of these several factors on the incomes of engineers. The first point to be noted is that the relationship changed between the jobs that engineers took in engineering and nonengineer ing work. In 1929 the essential elements of the story are to be found in the similarities of earnings in the two fields, rather than in the differences. On the whole it appears that nonengineering work was an alternative to engineering work. But from 1929 to 1934 many nonengineering jobs were accepted as an alternative to unemployment or work relief. Thus, the average earnings of those who were 40 to 47 years of age in 1929 and were in nonengineering work were $5,346. In 1934 a larger number of men from this age class were in nonengi neering, and the average of this larger group was $3,040, a decline of 43 percent. B y way of contrast the average annual income of grad uates in engineering work of from 40 to 47 years of age was $4,876 in 1929. A smaller number still in engineering in 1934 averaged $3,788, a decrease of only 23 percent. The extent to which earnings opportunities from nonengineering work depreciated between 1929 and 1934 differed at the various age levels. The average earnings of two groups in nonengineering whose ages were 28 to 40 in 1929 declined by almost one-third from 1929 to 1934. As between the groups of those who were over 48 in 1929, the average income of the 1934 group was only half the average of the 1929 group. Similarly at each of the other income levels there was a greater fall in the average income of older men in nonengineering. Those who were able to stay in engineering fared better. As illustrating this point, table 59 is presented, covering graduates of EARNED ANNUAL INCOMES OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS T a b l e 59. — C o m p a riso n o f 5 levels o f a nnual earnings in 1 9 2 9 , fr o m en gin eerin g w ork, o f 5 age grou p s o f older graduates 157 1 9 8 2 , and 1 9 8 4 1 reporting Annual earnings of more than specified amount of engineers whose ages were— Percentage at specified income level 60 in 1929 63 in 1932 65 in 1934 38 in 1929 41 in 1932 43 in 1934 30 in 1929 33 in 1932 35 in 1934 25 in 1929 28 in 1932 30 in 1934 10 percent__ $13,516 $9, 643 $9,372 $8,294 $6,700 $6. 542 $4,842 $4,415 $4,405 $2,992 $3,021 $3,120 7,955 6, 589 6, 264 6,099 4,990 4,863 3,847 3, 546 3, 499 2,477 2, 521 2, 533 25 percent__ 2,095 2,128 2,141 50 percent___ 5,590 4,689 4,280 4,353 3, 711 3,540 3,207 2,885 2,801 3,760 3,143 2, 625 3,354 2, 854 2, 655 2,664 2,299 2, 219 1,831 1, 751 1,806 75 percent__ 2,624 1, 571 1,160 2, 756 2,090 1,966 2,258 1, 728 1, 752 1,443 1,310 1,362 90 percent__ Percentage increase or decrease 10 percent__ 25 percent__ 50 percent— 75 percent___ 90 percent__ 192934 192932 193234 192934 192932 193234 192934 192932 193234 192934 -31 -21 -2 3 -3 0 -5 6 -2 9 -1 7 -1 6 -1 6 -4 0 -3 -5 -9 -1 6 -2 6 -2 1 -2 0 -1 9 -2 1 -2 9 -1 9 -1 8 -1 5 -1 5 -2 4 -2 -3 -5 -7 -6 -9 -9 -1 3 -1 7 -2 3 -9 -8 -1 0 -1 4 -2 4 (2) -1 -3 -3 +1 +4 +2 +2 -1 -9 1929- 193232 34 +1 +2 +2 -4 +12 +3 (2) +1 +3 +4 1Includes postgraduates, nonengineering graduates, and first-degree engineering graduates who reported they were professionally active prior to 1930. 2 Less than 1 percent. advancing age and experience, who were engaged in engineering work. A similar table based on the data in table 58 might be presented for all engineers. Essentially, however, the changes which occurred in the earnings from engineering work, as reported by all engineers and by graduates only, were consistently uniform. In the period from 1929 to 1934 the average earnings of graduates in engineering who were 60 years old in 1929 declined 23 percent. There was a smaller decrease for the middle-aged groups, and among those averaging 30 years of age in 1929 the decline amounted to 13 percent. For the youngest groups shown in the table— those who were 25 in 1929 and 30 in 1934— the 5 years of added experience resulted in an actual increase in the average earnings of those who remained in engineering in 1934, as against the average for the larger numbers in the profession in 1929. The nature and extent of these changes in the averages of graduate earnings from engineering work were closely paralleled by those which occurred at the two upper income groups or levels. The increase in average earnings that was noted at 25 and 30 years did not occur for this age group at the two lower levels of income for the period 1929 to 1934. Furthermore, the declines in earnings for the lowest 10 percent in each of the three older groups were greater than the average. The relative changes as between nonengineering earnings and those for engineering work of engineers with advancing age and experience are also found to be the same for men with comparable periods of experience (table 60). T a b l e 60, — C om p a rison o f 5 levels o f annual earnings in 1 9 2 9 , 1 9 8 2 , and 1 9 3 4 f r o m n on en g in eerin g and en gin eerin g w ork , f o r corresp ond ing years after graduation 00 H Proportion with annual earnings of more than specified amount Age of engineers Years after graduation *4 10 percent 1929 Nonengineering work—all engineers: 23£ 2 years______________________ 25 years __ _____ ___ 28 years - __ ________ __ 33 years _ ________ _____ 43 years _ __ _ ____ _ __ ____ 53 years..- _____________________ 60 years_________________________ Engineering work—all engineers: 23H years_______________________ __ 25 years _ 28 years________________________ 33 years .. _______ 43 years________________________ 53 years _ . . . . . . 60 years _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Engineering work—graduates only: 23 years_______________________ 25 years _______________ ______ 28 years. ______ ______ _ __ _ 33 years __ _ __ _ _____ _ 43 years_________________________ 53 years_____ _ ______________ 60 years.------------------------------------ Cn 50 percent 25 percent 75 percent 90 percent O 1932 1934 1929 1932 1934 1929 1932 1934 1929 1932 1934 1929 H ------ $2,496 2_____ 2,910 5_____ 4,560 10____ 7,320 20____ 11,950 30____ (0 37____ 0) $1,689 1,850 2,463 4,290 7, 950 9,130 0) $1,388 1,710 2,160 3, 770 7,293 8,400 0) $1,973 2,344 3,320 5,060 7,780 7,730 7,155 $1,240 1,380 1,908 3,007 5,140 5,200 5,020 $1,093 1,365 1,680 2,640 4, 576 4, 770 (2) $1,500 1,786 2, 525 3, 500 5,100 4, 970 4,400 $814 990 1, 319 1,963 2,880 3,050 2,725 $744 1,040 1, 250 1,790 2,892 2,775 2,400 $936 1,407 1, 995 2, 670 3, 390 3,420 2,893 $406 520 765 1,123 1,580 1, 425 1, 270 $372 685 910 1,170 1,667 1,435 (2) $446 889 1,410 1,840 2,340 C1) 0) $163 210 306 490 785 570 0) $149 275 420 575 1,042 760 0) — - 2, 356 2____ 3,043 5_____ 3,910 10 .. 5,940 20____ 9,400 30 .. 11,900 12, 625 37 1,910 2,100 3,005 4,332 6,660 8,230 8,800 1,391 1,960 2,470 3,800 6,221 7,620 8,150 1,933 2,501 3,320 4,480 6,250 7,060 7,500 1,335 1,840 2,504 3,457 4,800 5,640 6,130 976 1,610 2,115 3,020 4, 518 5,180 5, 550 1, 322 2,105 2, 750 3, 520 4, 440 4,900 4,979 766 1, 520 2,103 2,790 3, 580 3, 990 4,070 642 1,310 1,840 2,470 3, 319 3,620 3,750 888 1,834 2,280 2,890 3,400 3 460 3’ 422 383 1,150 1,702 2,195 2, 660 2,790 2,710 321 1,020 1,490 2,000 2,471 2,530 2,440 502 1.476 1,940 2, 385 2,690 2, 650 2,420 153 690 1, 257 1,619 1,920 1,840 1,470 128 650 1,150 1, 550 1,829 1,680 1,370 2,165 H -----2_____ 2,992 5_____ 4,030 6,100 1 0 .. 20____ 10,350 30____ 12, 500 37____ 13, 516 1,826 2,100 3,021 4,415 7,100 8,820 9, 400 1,311 1,940 2,470 3,860 6,542 8,100 8,850 1,858 2,477 3,360 4,660 6,620 7,620 7,955 1,243 1,840 2,521 3,546 5,140 5,980 6,400 939 1,610 2,110 3,110 4,863 5,560 5,980 1,168 2,095 2,800 3, 680 4, 770 5,270 5, 590 716 1, 510 2,128 2,885 3,865 4,320 4, 580 617 1, 310 1,840 2,530 3,540 3,910 4,150 862 1,831 2,375 3,040 3,600 3,780 3, 760 358 1,150 1, 751 2,299 2,890 3,030 3,080 309 1,015 1, 505 2,110 2,655 2,710 2,690 449 1,493 2,010 2,495 2,910 2,960 2,624 143 690 1,310 1,728 2,060 1,980 1,710 123 650 1,170 1, 640 1, 966 1,790 1,460 1932 1934 W 3 3 O 3 O t— i 3 H H W w 52! o a § § U1 M o 3 M to to to I 00 Percentage increase or decrease 1920-34 1929-32 1932-34 1929-34 1929-32 1932-34 1929-34 1929-32 1932-34 1929-34 1929-32 1932-34 H____ 2____ 5_____ 10____ 20____ 30 37 -4 4 -41 -53 -4 8 -3 9 -3 2 -3 6 -4 6 -41 -33 —18 -8 -12 -12 -8 -8 —45 -4 2 -4 8 -5 0 -41 —38 —37 -4 1 -4 3 -41 -3 4 —33 —30 —12 -1 -1 2 -1 6 -11 —8 —50 -4 2 -5 0 -4 9 -43 —44 —45 —46 -4 5 -4 8 -4 4 -4 4 —39 —38 -9 +5 -5 -9 (3) -9 -1 2 -5 1 -5 4 -5 6 -5 1 —58 -63 -6 2 -5 8 -5 3 -5 8 —56 +32 +19 +4 +6 +1 -69 -7 0 -69 -55 -7 6 -7 8 -73 -6 6 +31 +37 +17 +33 +33 H .... 2 _____ -41 -3 6 -37 -36 -34 -36 -35 -1 9 -31 -23 -2 7 -2 9 -31 -3 0 -27 -7 -18 -12 -7 -7 -7 -5 0 -3 6 -3 6 -33 -2 8 -2 7 -2 6 —31 -2 6 -2 5 -23 -23 -2 0 -18 —27 -1 3 -1 6 -13 -6 -8 -9 -51 -3 8 -3 3 -3 0 -2 5 -2 6 -2 5 —42 -2 8 -2 4 -21 -1 9 -1 9 -1 8 —16 -14 -13 -11 -7 -9 -8 -4 4 -3 5 -31 -2 7 -2 7 -2 9 -3 7 -2 5 -24 -2 2 -1 9 -2 1 -1 1 -1 2 -9 -7 -9 -1 0 -5 6 -41 -35 -3 2 -3 7 -43 -5 3 -3 5 -3 2 -2 9 -31 -3 9 -6 -9 -4 -5 -9 -7 -3 9 -35 -39 -37 -37 -35 -35 -16 -3 0 -25 -28 -31 -29 -30 —28 -8 -18 -13 -8 -8 -6 -4 9 -35 -3 7 -33 -2 7 -27 -25 —33 -2 6 -2 5 -2 4 -2 2 -2 2 -2 0 —24 -13 -1 6 -1 2 -5 -7 -7 —47 -3 7 -3 4 -31 -2 6 -2 6 -2 6 -3 9 -2 8 -24 -2 2 -1 9 -18 -18 -14 -13 -14 -1 2 -8 -9 -9 -4 5 -3 7 -31 -2 6 -2 8 -2 8 -3 7 -2 6 -24 -2 0 -2 0 -18 -1 2 -1 4 -8 -8 -11 -1 3 -56 -4 2 -34 -3 2 -40 -44 -5 4 -3 5 -31 -2 9 -3 3 -3 5 -6 -11 -5 -5 -1 0 -1 5 5____ 10..... 20____ 30____ 37____ }4 . . . . 2_____ 5_____ 10____ 20____ 30____ 37____ 1 Between 50 and 100 engineers reported. a Between 10 and 50 engineers reported. 3 Less than 1 percent. 159 1929-34 1929-32 1932-34 EARNED ANNUAL. INCOMES OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS Nonengineering work—all engineers: 23H years_____________________ 25 years______________________ 28 years______________________ 33 years______________________ 43 years______________________ 53 years______________________ 60 years______________________ Engineering work—all engineers: 23H years_____________________ 25 years______________________ 28 years______________________ 33 years______________________ 43 years______________________ 53 years______________________ 60 years______________________ Engineering work—graduates only: 23^ years_____________________ 25 years______________________ 28 years_______________________ 33 years______________________ 43 years______________________ 53 years______________________ 60 years_______________________ 160 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS---- ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 192 9 - 3 4 As far as the comparison of nonengineering and engineering earn ings is concerned, this table merely reenforces the evidence already advanced as to the severe fall of income that occurred when engineers were forced out of the profession. However, the table sets forth more clearly than table 59 the picture of the fall of earnings from engineering. It was among those newcomers who were trying to force their way into the profession that the greatest fall of income occurred. Thus, average earnings in engineering in 1934, 2 years after graduation, were 37 percent less than in 1929. The earnings of those who had been out of college 10 years were 31 percent lower in 1934 than in 1929. A t higher ages all groups averaged a decrease of 26 percent. A similar movement occurred in the level of earnings of the upper and lower 25 percent of those in engineering, but at the level of the upper 10 percent the declines were greater for the older engineers. Incomes of Unemployed Engineers In 1934 almost one-tenth of the reporting engineers were unem ployed or on work relief at the end of the year. The low level of earnings of this group during 1934 contributed to lowering the average earnings of all engineers (table 61.) The distribution of the earnings of this group has significance only as indicating the income which a group, unemployed in December 1934, had earned in the preceding 12 months. Some were probably men who had a few months’ work at a good rate, and a long period of unemployment. Others may have worked quite steadily at a low rate and become recently unemployed. All were unemployed at the end of the year. They could look back on average earnings for the pre ceding 12 months of $700 to $950 if they were less than age 28, while those of 40 to 50 had averaged $1,350. Only about 10 percent of the unemployed, even though they were in those ages at which engineering earnings reach a peak, had made as much as $2,000 in the preceding 12 months. Ten percent had made less than $300 a year. EARNED AN N U AL INCOMES OE PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS 161 T a b l e 61,— C o m p a riso n o f 5 levels o f a nnual ea rn in gs in 1 9 8 2 and 1 9 8 4 o f all en gineers reporting u n e m p lo ym en t, by age [Without regard to type of education] Age Year of graduation Years after graduation Proportion earning more than specified amount 10 25 50 75 90 percent percent percent percent percent 1932 income 67 years and over. 59-66 years______ 51-58 years______ 43-50 years______ 39-42 years_____ Prior to 1889_ _ 1889-96______ 1897-1904_____ 1905-12______ 1913-16 _____ 44 and over__ 36-43________ 28-35________ 20-27________ 16-19________ 0) (2) $2,453 2,790 2,497 C1) (2) $1,477 1,867 1, 574 C1) $720 793 1,105 1,008 0) (2) $396 528 494 0) (2) $159 211 198 35-38 years_____ 31-34 years_____ 29-30 years_____ 27-28 years_____ 26 years________ 1917-20 1921-24 1925-26 _____ 1927-28 _ 1929_________ 12-15_- _____ 8-11_________ 6-7__________ 4-5 3____________ 2,420 2,150 1, 754 1, 690 1, 232 1, 417 1, 416 1, 250 1,178 925 1,057 932 761 751 605 559 462 380 375 303 223 185 152 150 121 25 years________ 24 years________ 20-23 years_____ 1930._ _____ 2____________ 1931- ______ 1___________ 1932-,- _____ 0____________ 1,280 1,233 (3) 907 891 754 581 588 503 290 294 251 116 118 (3) 1934 income 69 years and over. 61-68 years______ 53-60 years______ 45-52 years______ 41-44 years_____ Prior to 1889_ _ 1889-96 _____ 1897-1904_____ 1905-12______ 1913-16 46 and over__ 38-45-___ 30-37-. ____ 22-29_______ 18-21__ _ 37-40 years_____ 33-36 years_____ 31-32 years_____ 29-30 years_____ 28 years________ 1917-20 __ 1921-24______ 1925-26 _- -_ 1927-28______ 1929_________ 27 years________ 26 years________ 25 years________ 24 years________ 20-23 years_____ 1930_________ 1931_________ 1932 __ 1933 __ 1934_________ 1 Fewer than 10 persons reported. Between 10 and 50 persons reported. * Between 50 and 100 persons reported. 2 (2) (3) $2,349 2,546 2,151 (2) $1, 300 1,700 1,943 1, 730 $1,000 688 1,080 1,357 1, 357 (2) $344 542 748 867 (2) (3) $217 299 353 14-17____ 10-13___ 8-9. 6-7_____ 5________ 2, 250 1,959 2,138 1, 796 1, 805 1,780 1, 634 1,746 1, 495 1,417 1, 316 1, 304 1,243 1,045 893 769 836 716 546 449 308 340 287 219 180 4________ _ 3__________ 2____________ 1____ -_ 0________ . 1,638 1, 545 1,548 1,460 1, 257 1, 374 1, 210 1,200 1,107 881 948 836 716 756 571 534 419 358 378 285 214 167 143 151 114 Chapter IX Monthly Earnings of Professional Engineers, 1929 to 1934 In the preceding discussion of earned annual incomes it was neces sary to assume that the kind of engineering employment reported at the end of 1929, 1932, or 1934 was the source of the earnings through out that year. As regards the six distinct analyses of monthly rates presented in this chapter, there should be virtually no inconsistency between the source reported and the earnings, primarily because, unlike earned annual incomes, the monthly rates at which engineer ing services were purchased are not affected by periods of partial or complete unemployment during the year. Engineering Earnings Without Regard to Kind of Engineering Employment in 1929, 1932, and 1934 Earnings o f A ll Engineers Combined W ithout Regard to Age Of the 33,266 engineers 23 years of age and more who reported as of December 31, 1929, that they were professionally active prior to 1930, 28,511, or 85 percent, stated their average monthly rates for the engineering work in which they were engaged. These 1929 data, together with the adjusted figures for 1932 and 1934, are shown in table 62, without regard to age or kind of engineering employment reported. T a b l e 62.— Comparison of 5 levels of monthly engineering earnings in 1929, 1932, and 1934 of all professional engineers reporting [Figures adjusted as explained on p. 34 and without regard to kind of engineering employment reported or type of education] Percentage at specified earnings level Monthly engineering earnings of more than specified amount 1929 10 percent_______________ 25 percent_________ _ 50 percent_______________ 75 percent_______________ 90 percent______ _______ $609 415 289 215 162 1932 $484 334 235 167 123 1934 $435 304 210 148 112 Amount of decrease Percentage decrease 1929-34 1929-32 1932-34 1929-34 1929-32 1932-34 $174 111 79 67 50 $125 81 54 48 39 $49 30 25 19 11 28.6 26.7 27.3 31.2 30.9 20.5 19.5 18.7 22.3 24.1 10.1 9.0 10 6 11.4 8.9 As in the case of earned annual incomes, the range in the 1929 monthly engineering earnings of professional engineers was very great. While some 79 engineers reported earnings of less than $60 per month, 162 MONTHLY EARNINGS OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS, 192 9 - 3 4 163 168 earned more than $1,880 a month. The median monthly earn ings of the 28,511 reporting engineers was $289; one-quarter earned more than $415; and only 10 percent had earnings greater than $609 a month. The lowest 25 percent of the reporting engineers earned less than $215 a month, while the lowest 10 percent earned less than $162 a month. Over the period 1929-34, the changes which occurred in monthly engineering earnings were similar to those previously noted in the discussion of earned annual incomes: (1) Earnings progressively declined from 1929 to 1934; (2) almost two-thirds of the decreases occurred between 1929 and 1932; (3) the sharpest absolute decreases occurred at the higher levels of earnings, but the greatest percentage decreases took place at the two lower income levels. The changes in monthly engineering earnings were very much less than those for earned annual incomes. This is due to the fact that annual earnings reflect the combined effects of several factors which were operative in the depression years: (1) The decline in engineer ing earnings; (2) the acute unemployment; and (3) the deterioration in the nature of the available nonengineering work. Furthermore, the fact that there were a large number of engineering graduates in 1930-34, of whom a large number were unable to find engineering employment, probably acted further to cause a greater drop in annual incomes than in rates for engineering services. Clearly, earned annual income data cannot be used as a measure of the rates at which engineering services were purchased. Illus trative of this is the fact that in 1929 only at the two higher earnings levels did earned annual income exceed 12 times the monthly earnings reported solely from engineering services.1 In the years 1932 and 1934 the difference between 12 times the monthly engineering income alone and the reported annual income from all services was more marked than in 1929. A t each earnings level it showed rates of earnings higher than realized income. The discrepancy is of course greatest at the lower levels. Thus, 10 percent of the reporting engineers actually earned less than $872 in 1934. This group in cluded many who were unemployed, on work relief, or in makeshift nonengineering jobs. On the other hand, among those who had engineering jobs at the end of 1934, the lowest 10 percent were paid at the rate of $112 a month or $1,344 a year. This was a decline of 30.9 percent subsequent to 1929. B y contrast, the earned annual incomes of a similar proportion of engineers had declined by 53.6 percent. A t the next highest income level, engineering earnings decreased by 31.2 percent, as against 41.3 percent in the case of earned annual incomes. The differences between the decline in monthly 1 This relationship is reasonable because in 1929 the earnings of those in nonengineering work were greater than the earnings of those in engineering. 164 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 -3 4 rates for engineering work and in annual earnings of all engineers were less marked at the average level and at the two higher levels. Thus, on the average engineering rates declined 27.3 percent, whereas annual incomes declined by 33.0 percent. It follows from this discussion that there is an important distinction between movements at the various levels of earned annual incomes and of engineering rates. Earned annual incomes among the upper 10 percent declined 31.2 percent; among the lower 10 percent, heavily weighted in 1934 with engineers who had been unemployed, by 53.6 percent. Engineering rates also declined more at the lower levels than at the upper levels. B y and large, and especially by contrast with the movement of annual earnings, however, the impression given by the figures is of a fairly uniform decrease in rates of earnings at all levels. Thus, the monthly rates for the upper 10 percent of those engaged in engineering work declined 28.6 percent, while for the lower 10 percent they declined 30.9 percent. Earnings by Professional Class, W ithout Regard to Age The findings and comments of the preceding analysis also apply to the engineering earnings reported by the five professional classes. These are shown, also without regard to age 2 or kind of engineering employment, in table 63. In 1929 there were several marked differences in the relationship of monthly rates for the various professional groups at the higher and lower levels. Mining and metallurgical engineers received more than the other professional groups. The upper 10 percent of mining and metallurgical engineers had earnings of not less than $792 per month. Second in order came chemical and ceramic engineers, of whom the upper 10 percent had monthly earnings of not less than $732, followed by mechanical and industrial engineers, and electrical engineers, respectively, with not less than $674 and $587 a month. At this level, civil engineers received the lowest rates, $515 per month. For the upper 25 percent of the reporting engineers the order of the profes sional classes was the same, monthly earnings ranging from not less than $372 for civil engineers to not less than $503 a month for mining and metallurgical engineers. At the lower levels as well the mining and metallurgical rates of pay were greater than the rates for corre sponding proportions of the other professional classes. But the rela tionships between the other classes are altered. At the two highest levels electrical engineers were in fourth place; at the middle and two lowest levels the rates for electrical engineers were less than those for 2 It is important to note that any data concerning the several professional classes as a whole without regard to age tend to obscure the effects of different age distributions within the classes. Those classes with a relatively high proportion of older men for this reason are likely to show relatively high earnings, and those with relatively more younger men to show smaller earnings. MONTHLY EARNINGS' OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS, 19 2 9 - 8 4 165 any of the other professional groups. Civil engineers rose to fourth place as regards average earnings, and to second place as regards the rates received by the lowest 10 percent in the various professional groups. And while chemical and ceramic engineers continued at the average level to be the second-best paid of the professional groups, they shifted to fourth place as regards the level of earnings for the lowest 10 percent. T a b l e 63.— Comparison of 5 levels of monthly engineering earnings in 1929, 1932, and 1934 of all engineers reporting, by professional class [Figures adjusted as explained on p. 34 and without regard to kind of engineering employment reported or type of education] Percent of professional class at specified earnings level1 Monthly engineering earnings of more th a n s p e c i f i e d amount Percentage decrease 1932 1934 192934 192932 193234 192934 192932 $792 732 674 587 $585 579 512 496 $524 509 441 463 $268 223 233 124 $207 153 162 91 $61 70 71 33 33.8 30.5 34.6 21.1 26.1 20.9 24.0 15.5 10.4 12.1 13.9 6.7 515 430 390 125 85 40 24.3 16.5 9.3 503 490 455 405 409 400 356 336 371 339 313 315 132 151 142 90 94 90 99 69 38 61 43 21 26.2 30.8 31.2 22.2 18.7 18.4 21.8 17.0 9.3 15.2 12.1 6. 2 1929 10 percent: Mining and metallurgical _ _ Chemical and ceram ic,_____ Mechanical and industrial___ Electrical__________________ Civil, agricultural, and archi tectural _________________ 25 percent: Mining and metallurigcal Chemical and ceramic, __ _ Mechanical and industrial __ Electrical_________ _,, _____ Civil, agricultural, and archi tectural ___________ ,, , 50 percent: Mining and metallurgical , __ Chemical and ceramic ______ Mechanical and industrial____ Civil, agricultural, and archi tectural________ ______ , Electrical__ _ __ . . , 75 percent: Mining and metallurgical . __ Mechanical and industrial____ Chemical and ceramic_______ Civil, agriculural, and archi tectural- ___________ _ ,, Electrical___________________ 90 percent: Mining and metallurgical_____ Civil, agricultural, and archi tectural _____________ Mechanical and industrial _ _ Chemical and ceramic____ _ Electrical,,. _______ ________ Amount of decrease 193234 372 311 279 93 61 32 25.0 16.4 10.3 334 326 311 274 251 246 241 203 215 93 123 96 60 75 65 33 48 31 27.8 37.7 30.9 18.0 23.0 20.9 12.0 19.1 12.6 277 275 229 232 205 215 72 60 48 43 24 17 26.0 21.8 17.3 15.6 10.5 7.3 241 225 221 183 166 157 154 145 131 87 80 90 58 59 64 29 21 26 36.1 35.6 40.7 24.1 26.2 29.0 15.8 12.7 16.6 213 201 169 163 150 148 63 53 44 38 19 15 29.6 26.4 20.7 18.9 11.2 9.2 186 125 115 71 61 10 38.2 32.8 8.0 167 167 156 148 126 122 116 123 120 107 101 108 47 60 55 40 41 45 40 25 6 15 15 15 28.1 35.9 35.3 27.0 24.6 26.9 25.6 16.9 4.8 12.3 12.9 12.2 1 Arranged in ascending order of monthly engineering earnings for 1929. While there were shifts in the order of the various professions as between different levels of earnings in 1929, the spread was less marked at the lower levels. Thus, among the lowest 10 percent of the various groups the range was from $148 per month for electrical engineers to $186 for mining and metallurgical, a range of not quite 26 percent. A t the average level the absolute range was greater, from $275 to $334, but relatively it was a narrower range than was found at the 2 8 5 2 0 8 ° — 4 1 --------12 166 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS---- ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 192 9 - 3 4 lowest level. However, at the levels of the highest 25 percent and the highest 10 percent in each class there was not only a greater absolute spread but also a greater relative difference among the several pro fessional groups. Thus, the upper 10 percent of the mining and metal lurgical en gineers, who were paid not less than $792 a month, received 54 percent more than the upper 10 percent of the civil engineers who received not less than $515.3 Despite the progressive declines in engineering earnings between 1929 and 1934, the orders of the professional classes at the two higher levels were essentially the same as those noted for 1929. However, at the middle earnings level, chemical and ceramic engineers had dropped from second place in 1929 and 1932 to fifth by 1934; but even in 1934 their monthly engineering earnings were practically the same as those of the civil engineers, who were fourth in order. Mining and metal lurgical engineers were highest both in 1932 and 1934. Thus, in the latter year, while their median earnings were $241 a month, those of both mechanical and industrial engineers and electrical engineers were $215 a month. A t the lowest 25-percent earnings level of the reporting engineers, the lowest and highest figures for 1932 and 1934 were again reported, respectively, by chemical and ceramic engineers and mining and metal lurgical engineers. A t the same level in 1934 the range was from not more than $131 for chemical and ceramic engineers to not more than $154 for mining and metallurgical engineers. This reduction in the range of earnings was more pronounced at the lowest earnings level both in 1932 and 1934, for while in the former year it was from not more than $116 to not more than $126, in the latter it was from not more than $101 to not more than $120, the upper and lower extremes being reported, respectively, by the civil engineers and the chemical and ceramic engineers. The decline in engineering earnings of each professional class was very much less than that which occurred in earned annual incomes. The greatest percentage decreases took place at the two lower levels. For example, while engineering earnings of electrical engineers at these limits declined by 26.4 and 27.0 percent, the corresponding annual incomes decreased by 42.6 and 56.0 percent. In the case of chemical and ceramic engineers, the drops in engineering earnings at these levels were 40.7 and 35.3 percent as against 52.2 and 63.8 percent in their annual income. 3 It has been stated before, but can hardly be over-emphasized, that these levels of earnings need to be related to the number of those in the various professional groups. Thus, there were 12,920 civil engineers and 1,231 mining and metallurgical engineers in the 1929 sample under discussion. This means then, that 1,292 civil engineers earned more than $515 and 123 mining and metallurgical engineers earned more than $792. In absolute numbers there were more civil engineers (434) earning more than $792 monthly than there were mining and metallurgical engineers. Conversely, the highest paid 434 mining engineers (30.5 percent) of the total number earned approximately more than $427 per month. MONTHLY EARNINGS1OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS, 192 9 -3 4 167 Earnings Related to Age— A ll Engineers Combined In table 64 there are presented the monthly engineering earnings, by age,4 of all engineers combined and without regard to kind of en gineering employment. T a b l e 64.— Comparison of 5 levels of monthly engineering earnings in 1929, 1932, and 1934 of all engineers reporting, hy age [Without regard to kind of engineering employment reported or type or education] Age Year of grad uation Years after graduation Proportion with monthly engineering earnings of more than specified amount 10 per 25 per 50 per 75 per 90 per cent cent cent cent cent 1929 64 years and over___________ 56— 63 years_________________ 48-55 years___________ _ __ 40-47 years_________________ 36-39 years_______ _____ ___ Prior to 1889 _ _ 1889-96______ 1897-1904 1905-12 1913-16 _ 40 and over__ 33-40. __ 25-32 17-24 . 13-16 $820 1,050 933 789 630 $601 628 592 514 467 $388 425 414 385 339 $263 296 297 289 269 $194 210 232 229 218 32-35 years....... ....................... 28-31 years....... ................. 26-27 years......... .................... 24-25 years........................... . 23 vears _ _ _ 1917-20______ 1921-24. . . 1925-26. . 1927-28_______ 1929_________ 9-12_____ 5-8 3-4 1-2__________ 0. 519 404 307 252 215 407 317 256 215 174 310 262 218 181 149 249 217 186 152 130 208 187 155 133 115 1932 67 years and over. ________ 59-66 years__________ _ . 51-58 years______________ __ 43-50 y e a r s.___________ . . . 39-42 years_________________ Prior to 1889.. 1889-96.... __ 1897-1904_____ 1905-12______ 1913-16______ 44 and over__ 36-43 ______ 28-35________ 20-27________ 16-19________ $725 751 707 624 517 $499 517 486 433 396 $331 352 340 315 295 $216 241 241 234 223 $144 152 164 168 170 35-38 years________________ 31-34 years____ _ . 29-30 years......................... __ 27-28 years 26 years................................... 1917-20_______ 1921-24 _. ._ 1925-26______ 1927-28.._ 1929_________ 12-15________ 8-11 _ __ 6-7... ........... 4-5__________ 3____________ 458 358 299 250 221 349 293 244 215 185 272 234 205 181 156 211 189 166 147 134 157 143 135 119 110 25 years__________ _________ 24 years...................... ............. 23 years 1930_________ 1931_________ 1 _ __ 1932............... 0____I___ 190 173 165 161 149 137 143 126 111 122 104 89 101 84 66 1934 69 years and over___________ Prior to 1889. _ 61-68 years____ _ _ _____ 1889-96........... 53-60 years_________ _______ 1897-1904_____ 45-52 years....... .... _ ______ 1905-12______ 41-44 years.. ___ _ _______ 1913-16______ 46 and over__ 38-45________ 30-37________ 22-29________ 18-21________ $620 711 650 592 505 $430 480 447 413 375 $284 321 310 292 273 $173 205 212 214 205 $108 126 146 152 150 37-40 years______ ______ ___ 33-36 years 31-32 years._ ......................... 29-30 years______ _________ 28 years. _ _____ ________ 1917-20______ 1921-24....... . 1925-26. .......... 1927-28______ 1929................. 14-17________ 10-13________ 8-9__________ 6-7__________ 5____________ 440 354 299 253 228 336 285 238 215 191 254 224 199 177 162 197 177 161 145 138 148 139 133 118 113 27 years............ ................... 26 years. _ __ _______ 25 years......... ................ ......... 24 years. ._ ______________ 23 years___________ ________ 1930_________ 1931 ________ 1932 ________ 1933 ............... 1934_________ 199 182 169 159 149 172 156 145 138 129 148 137 124 116 110 125 114 103 98 91 104 94 84 82 75 t ill" ” ” ” !” 0 ____________ * Throughout the ensuing discussion, age and years after graduation are used interchangeably. Of course, in the case of nongraduates (i. e., “ other” engineers) age only applies. The relationship between these 2 factors can readily be derived from the fact that the median age of graduation of new graduates to the profession was found to be 23 years. 168 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 -3 4 As shown in the table there was, in general, a steady advance in monthly earnings at all levels up to the highest age groups. Except for the absence of the exceptionally rapid rise from 23 to 25 years, the changes with age in monthly engineering earnings at all 5 levels show no marked differences from those derived from the analysis of earned annual incomes by age. Thus, in 1929 the compensation for engineering services of the lowest tenth of the reporting engineers steadily increased from over $115 a month for those at age 23 to a maximum of over $232 a month for those who were between 48 and 55 years. A t each of the four higher earnings levels maximum earn ings were reached some 8 years later, or near to age 60. The respec tive maxima were not less than $297, $425, $628, and $1,050 per month. The tables of monthly earnings by age are of especial importance because of the light they shed on the entrance rates of engineers. In the tables of annual incomes the graduating class of 1929 did not have an opportunity to earn for more than 6 months. Some engineers apparently did report an annual rate of earnings, rather than actual earnings in the year. In any event, however, it is not possible to present any useful contrasts between the earnings of men just out of college and those who had been out a year or more. In this section on monthly rates of earnings the progression from entrance rates of pay is clearly shown. There is a marked spread in rates of pay at all ages. In 1929 the earnings of engineers 23 years of age, essentially beginners in the pro fession, averaged $149 a month. A bove this one-quarter earned over $174, and one-tenth over $215 per month, as against monthly engi neering earnings of over $130 and $115 at the two lower levels. The spread in engineering earnings with advancing age became quite marked at the age of 30; that is, some 8 years earlier than was the case for earned annual incomes. (See chart 12.) Again the earnings of the upper 10 percent of reporting engineers diverged sharply from those at corresponding ages in the lower levels. Thus, at age 44 the former were greater than the average by some 102 per cent, as against a corresponding difference at the upper 25-percent level of only 33 percent. A t age 60, the respective differences were 144 and 48 percent. These general relationships of monthly engineering earnings by age of all engineers 5 reporting, also held in the years 1932 and 1934, as well as for the m onthly earnings of all graduates,6shown in table 65. 6 Graduates and “ other” engineers combined. ®Postgraduates, nonengineering graduates, and first-degree engineering graduates combined. MONTHLY EARNINGS OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS, 1 9 2 9 -3 4 CHART 12 MONTHLY COMPENSATION OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS IN ENGINEERING WORK BY AGE IN 1929 INCLUDES COMPENSATION FOR A L L KINDS OF ENGINEERING SERVICES REPORTED DOLLARS DOLLARS Ag£in Years 2Jits zt so Years after Graduation z a t No. Reporting* Mi&HW7EEAS 1(140 ZfiM 2fi45 4fiOS 3JOO 3,404 0,233 M l G M M T£S I£63 2,173 2,167 3£53 2J2I3 2A4S 4,410 U . S. B u r ea u of 34 30 44 52 00 00 It IS 21 29 37 43 2,700 970 23S IASS 040 ISS L abor S t a t is t ic s 169 170 T a b l e EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 -3 4 65.— C o m p a rison o f 5 levels o f m on th ly en gin eerin g ea rnings in 1 9 2 9 , 1 9 3 2 , and 1 9 3 4 o f all graduate en gineers reporting, b y age [Without regard to kind of engineering employment reported or type of education] Year of grad uation Age Years after graduation Proportion with monthly engineering earnings of more than specified amount 10 per 25 per 50 per 75 per 90 per cent cent cent cent cent 1929 64 years and over___ _____ _ 56-63 years. . . . 48-55 years 40-47 years______ _________ ... ... 36-39 years___ _ Prior to 1889. _ 1889-96... . 1897-1904. 1905-12______ 1913-16______ 41 and over__ 33-40________ 25-32 17-24________ 13-16________ $880 1,152 1,018 826 663 $624 661 625 552 490 $417 472 434 410 356 $302 326 319 306 286 ' $215 243 252 245 231 32-35 years _ _ 28-31 years... _ _ 26-27 years.. _._ 24-25 years__ __ 23 years____ __ 1917-20. . 1921-24______ 1925-26______ 1927-28_________ 1929 _______ 9 -1 2 ________ 5-8__________ 3-4__________ 1-2__________ 540 410 308 247 205 416 322 260 213 169 321 269 220 180 148 263 223 189 152 130 218 196 160 135 115 _____ _ _ _ ___ _ _ _ __ _ ... __ 0____________________ 1932 67 years and over___________ 59-66 years_________________ 51-58 years 43-50 years. . _ ____ 39-42 years _. _ __________ Prior to 1889.. 1889-96______ 1897-1904. 1905-12______ 1913-16______ 44 and over__ 36-43________ 28-35 . . 20-27______________ 16-19______________ $778 807 739 653 557 $519 558 505 458 419 $350 401 374 334 312 $234 277 265 248 240 $173 170 185 178 187 35-38 years. ___ ________ . . . 31-34 years__ ______________________ 29-30 years _ _______ 27-28 years . _ _ ____ 26 years _ _ 1917-20___________ 1921-24___________ 1925-26______ 1927-28______ 1929 ________ 12-15______________ 8-11 ______________ 6-7_____ ________ 4-5_____ ________ 3________ ______ 480 368 302 253 219 365 301 251 217 184 288 241 210 183 156 223 198 172 149 135 171 149 141 122 113 25 years___________________ 24 years------------------------------------------------23 years ______ ___ _________ 1930_________ 1931_________ 1____________________ 1932 ______________ . . . ............ ............... 187 171 159 160 148 134 143 125 110 122 104 88 101 0 84 64 1934 69 years and over__________________ Prior to 1889. _ 61H58 years___________________________ 1889-96. 53-60 years _ _ . ___ 1897-1904________ 1905-12. 45-52 years 41-44 years _ ___ 1913-16.-. _____ 46 and over ____ 38-45 _____ 36-37______________ 22-29. ________ 18-21________ $636 770 704 626 533 $480 517 478 431 404 $307 360 337 313 294 $205 232 229 226 219 $110 132 152 158 161 37-40 years., _ . . ... _ 33-36 years___ ___________. . . 31-32 years _ . _ . 29-30 years _ . . _ __ 28 years. . . . . . _____ 1917-20______ 1921-24___________ 1925-26___________ 1927-28___________ 1929_______________ 14-17________ 10-13................... 8-9....................... ..... 6-7............................... 5......... .......................... 461 360 303 258 228 354 294 242 218 192 271 232 205 181 164 210 186 169 148 140 157 145 140 121 115 27 years___________ __________ __________ 26 years____________ . ______________ 25 years___ ____ ______________ __ 24 years_______ ___ ________ 23 years_______ . . . . . 1930_______________ 1931_________ 1932_______________ 1933_______________ 1934_______________ 4____________________ 3____________ 200 180 169 159 149 172 156 145 137 129 149 137 124 116 109 126 114 102 98 91 105 94 84 82 75 2 . . . ......................... 1......... .......................... 0 . . ......................... .. Consideration will now be given to the extent to which rates of pay for engineering work may have been affected by the depression. In this connection it must be noted, however, that the changes shown in the table underestimate the effective changes in rates. It is prob ably safe to assume that on the whole the less able engineers were laid off more frequently than the more able. If that were so, the average capacity of the 9,179 engineers who were 33 to 42 years of age in 1934 and were engaged on engineering work in 1934 was probably somewhat EARNED A N N U A L INCOMES OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS) 171 greater than was that of the 8,210 engineers of these ages in 1929 engaged on engineering work in 1929. It follows that for $239 per month in 1934, the average for engineers 33 to 42, it was possible to hire a somewhat better qualified man than could have been hired for $338 in 1929. T o this extent, the change in the averages understates the effective change in rates for engineering services. Earnings of Engineers of Identical Ages The average rates of earnings reported by men who were of identical ages in 1929, 1932, and 1934 are presented in tables 66 and 67. The general character of the results is not unlike that discussed under annual earnings. However, these tables make it possible for the first time to make a careful analysis of changes in the earnings of the engineers 23% years of age, many of whom in 1929 tended to translate earnings for the first 6 months after graduation into an annual rate.7 T a b l e 66 .— C o m p a riso n o f 5 levels o f m on th ly en gin eerin g ea rnings in 1 9 2 9 , 1 9 3 2 , and 1 9 3 4 o f all en gin eers , f o r corresp on d in g yea rs after graduation [Without regard to kind of engineering employment reported or type of education] Proportion with monthly engineering earnings of more than specified amount Years Age of engi after gradu neers ation 10 percent 25 percent 1929 1932 1934 1929 1932 1934 23^ years. 25 years__ 28 years, __ 33 years,__ 43 years, 53 years, 60 years__ Vi 2 5 10 20 30 37 50 percent 75 percent 90 percent 1929 1932 1934 1929 1932 1934 1929 1932 1934 $215 $165 $149 $174 $137 $129 $149 $111 $110 $130 252 180 160 215 152 140 181 133 120 152 339 250 210 276 215 187 231 181 153 196 485 358 314 386 293 248 299 234 205 239 741 559 505 501 405 375 375 301 273 283 940 685 617 592 462 428 416 332 299 296 1,050 733 670 628 497 459 425 349 313 296 $89 114 147 189 227 240 242 $91 $115 102 133 130 167 162 202 205 228 211 230 209 210 $66 92 119 143 169 164 157 $75 82 109 134 150 148 137 Percentage increase or decrease 1929- 1929- 1932- 1929- 1929- 1932- 1929- 1929- 1932- 1929- 1929- 1932- 1929- 1929- 193234 32 34 34 32 34 34 32 34 34 32 34 34 32 34 23K years , 25 years,__ 28 years__ 33 years__ 43 years__ 53 years, 60 years,_, Vi 2 5 10 20 30 37 -31 -3 7 -3 8 -3 5 -3 2 -34 -36 -2 3 -2 9 -2 6 -2 6 -2 5 -2 7 -3 0 -1 0 -11 -1 6 -1 2 -10 -1 0 -9 -2 6 -3 5 -3 2 -3 6 -2 5 -2 8 -27 -21 - 6 -2 9 - 8 -2 2 -13 -2 4 -15 -1 9 - 7 -2 2 - 7 -21 - 8 -2 6 -3 4 -34 -31 -27 -2 8 -26 -6 -2 7 -2 2 -2 2 -2 0 -2 0 -18 -1 -1 0 -1 5 -1 2 -9 -10 -1 0 -3 0 -3 3 -3 4 -3 2 -2 8 -2 9 -2 9 -3 2 -2 5 -2 5 -21 -2 0 -1 9 -1 8 +2 -11 -1 2 -1 4 -1 0 -1 2 -14 -3 5 -3 8 -3 5 -3 4 -34 -3 6 -35 -4 3 -31 -2 9 -2 9 -2 6 -2 9 -2 5 +14 -1 1 -8 -6 -11 -1 0 -13 These data reveal the fact that the newcomers to the profession suffered less than those with from 2 to 5 years7 experience in engineer ing. Thus, while median monthly earnings of the newcomers were 26 percent less in 1934 than those of men of similar ages in 1929, they were 34 percent less in the case of men with from 2 to 5 years7 experi ence in each of these years. But it will also be noted that the declines 7 This qualification applies only to graduate engineers, for in the case of “ other’’ or nongraduate engineers many of them could have been working for a year or more. 172 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 -3 4 in earnings of engineers between 1929 and 1934 with from 20 to 37 years of experience were practically the same as those reported by engineers 23% years of age. Furthermore, a similar relationship existed at the four other earnings levels, despite the fact that the declines in earnings were relatively greater in the case of engineers at the two lower earnings levels. T a b l e 67.— C om p a riso n o f 5 levels o f m on th ly en gin eerin g ea rnings in 1 9 2 9 , 1 9 8 2 , and 1 9 3 4 o f all graduate en gineers, f o r corresp on d in g ye a rs after gra dua tion [Without regard to kind of engineering employment reported or type of education] Proportion with monthly engineering earnings of more than specified amount Age of en gineers 23^ years.. 25 years__ 28 years__ 33 years__ 43 years__ 53 years__ 60years___ Years after grad uation 10 percent 25 percent 50 percent 1929 1932 1934 1929 1932 1934 1929 1932 1934 90 percent 75 percent 1929 1932 1934 1929 1932 1934 H $205 $159 $149 $169 $134 $129 $148 $110 $109 $130 2 247 180 161 213 153 140 180 132 119 152 5 339 253 210 280 217 184 238 183 155 199 10 500 368 320 389 301 260 309 241 212 252 20 797 583 533 539 428 404 400 320 294 301 30 1,030 715 664 628 497 451 440 365 326 320 37 1,152 780 729 661 539 489 472 394 348 326 $88 112 149 198 241 260 271 $91 $115 100 135 132 170 174 211 219 243 228 253 230 243 $64 93 122 149 181 182 175 $75 82 no 132 161 156 146 Percentage increase or decrease 1929- 1929- 1932- 1929- 1929- 1932- 1929- 1929- 1932- 1929- 1929- 1932- 1929- 1929- 193232 32 32 32 34 34 34 34 34 34 34 32 34 34 34 23 years.. 25 years___ 28 years__ 33 years___ 43 years___ 53 years__ 60 years__ H -2 7 2 5 10 20 30 37 -3 5 -3 8 -3 6 -3 3 -3 6 -3 7 -2 2 - 6 -2 7 -1 1 -2 5 -1 7 -2 6 -1 3 -2 7 - 9 -3 1 - 7 -3 2 - 7 -2 4 -3 4 -3 4 -3 3 -2 5 -2 8 -2 6 -21 - 4 -2 8 - 8 -2 3 -1 5 -2 3 -1 4 -2 1 - 6 -2 1 - 9 -1 8 - 9 -2 6 -3 4 -3 5 -31 -2 7 -2 6 -2 6 -2 6 -2 7 -2 3 -2 2 -2 0 -1 7 -1 7 - 1 -3 0 -3 2 -1 0 -3 4 -2 6 —15 -3 4 -2 5 -1 2 -3 1 -2 1 - 8 -2 7 -2 0 -1 1 —29 -1 9 -1 2 -2 9 -1 7 +3 -1 1 - 11 -1 2 -9 -1 2 -1 5 -3 5 -3 9 -3 5 -3 7 -3 4 -3 8 -4 0 -4 4 -3 1 -2 8 -2 9 -2 6 -2 8 -2 8 +17 -1 2 -1 0 -1 1 -1 1 -1 4 -1 7 It will be recalled that in the discussion of employment status, as far as available engineering work was concerned, the tendency appeared to be to give preference to engineers who entered the profession in the period 1930-34. The analysis of the data in table 66 shows that it was not those engineers who entered the profession in 1934 who suf fered relatively the greatest cuts but those who had entered during one or other of the depression years, 1930-33, inclusive. Similar data for earnings of graduates of identical ages are shown in table 67. Earnings in Relation to Advancing A ge and Experience In tables 68 and 69 the changes in earnings from 1929-34 are shown as they were affected not only by decreasing rates for a given type of work but also as they were influenced by advancing years and experience. Those engineers who were 23% years in 1929 and 28% in 1934 reported an increase in earnings from $149 to $162. At this level added experh ence counts heavily, as may be seen from the fact that in 1929, men with 5 years’ experience averaged about $240. Those engineers who 173 M O N TH LY EARNING® OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS, 19 2 9 - 3 4 entered the profession in 1929 were able to advance slightly even in the face of the depression. But it must not be overlooked that a large proportion of men 23% years of age in 1929 were not engaged in engi neering work in 1934. T a b l e 6 8 ,— C o m p a riso n o f 5 levels o f m on th ly en gin eerin g earnings in 1 9 2 9 , 1 9 3 2 , and 1 9 3 4 o f 5 age g ro u p s o f older 1 en gin eers reporting [Without regard to kind of engineering employment reported or type of education] Monthly engineering earnings of more than specified amount of engineers whose ages were Percentage at specified income level 26Mi 28M 60 in 63 in 65 in 38 in 41 in 43 in 30 in 33 in 35 in 25 in 28 in 30 in 23K in in 1929 1932 1934 1929 1932 1934 1929 1932 1934 1929 1932 1934 in 1929 1932 1934 10 percent______ $1,050 $751 $711 $630 $517 $505 $404 $358 $354 $252 $250 $253 $215 $221 $228 25 percent______ 628 517 480 467 396 375 317 293 285 215 215 215 174 185 191 50 percent______ 425 352 321 339 295 273 262 234 224 181 181 177 149 156 162 296 241 205 269 223 205 217 189 177 152 147 145 130 134 138 75 percent-....... . 210 152 126 218 170 150 187 143 139 133 119 118 115 110 113 90 percent.........— Percentage increase or decrease 1929- 1929- 1932- 1929- 1929- 1932- 1929- 1929- 1932- 1929- 1929- 1932- 1929- 1929- 193234 32 34 34 32 34 34 34 32 34 32 34 34 32 34 10 percent-........... 25 percent______ 50 percent---------75 percent--------90 percent- ___ -3 2 -2 4 -2 4 -31 -4 0 -2 8 - 5 -1 8 - 7 -1 7 - 9 -1 9 -1 5 -2 8 -1 7 -2 0 -2 0 -1 9 -2 4 -31 - 18 - 2 -1 5 - 5 -13 - 7 -1 7 - 8 -2 2 -1 2 -1 2 -1 0 -1 5 -1 8 -2 6 -11 -8 -11 -13 -2 4 -1 -3 -4 -6 -3 0 -1 0 0 -2 0 -5 -3 -11 -11 +6 +1 0 +10 -2 +9 -1 +6 -2 -1 +3 +6 +5 +3 -4 +3 +3 +4 +3 +3 1 Includes those engineers who reported they were professionally active prior to 1930. T a b l e 69 .— C om p a riso n o f 5 levels o f m on th ly en gin eerin g earnings in 1 9 2 9 , 1 9 3 2 , and 1 9 3 4 o f 5 age gro u p s o f older 1 graduate en gineers reporting [Without regard to kind of engineering employment reported or type of education] Monthly engineering earnings of more than specified amount of engineers whose ages were Percentage at specified income level X 26^ 28M 60 in 63 in 65 in 38 in 41 in 43 in 30 in 33 in 35 in 25 in 28 in 30 in 23 in in in 1929 1932 1934 1929 1932 1934 1929 1932 1934 1929 1932 1934 1929 1932 1934 10 percent---------- $1,152 $807 $770 $663 $557 $533 $410 $368 $360 $247 $253 $258 $205 $219 $228 661 558 517 490 419 404 322 301 294 213 217 218 169 184 192 25 percent---------472 401 360 356 312 294 269 241 232 180 183 181 148 156 164 50 percent.......... 326 277 232 286 240 219 223 198 186 152 149 148 130 135 140 75 percent---------243 170 132 231 187 161 196 . 149 145 135 122 121 115 113 115 90 percent........... Percentage increase or decrease 1929- 1929- 1932- 1929- 1929- 1932- 1929- 1929- 1932- 1929- 1929- 1932- 1929- 1929- 193234 34 32 34 34 32 34 34 32 34 32 34 34 32 34 10 percent______ 25 percent______ 50 percent______ 75 percent______ 90 percent______ -3 3 -2 2 -2 4 -2 9 -4 6 -3 0 - 5 -1 6 - 7 -1 5 -1 0 -1 5 -1 6 -3 0 -2 2 -2 0 -1 8 -1 7 -2 3 -3 0 -1 6 - 4 -1 4 - 4 -1 2 - 6 -1 6 - 9 -1 9 -14 -1 2 -9 -1 4 -1 7 -2 6 -1 0 -7 -1 0 -1 1 -2 4 -2 -2 -4 -6 -3 +4 +2 +2 +2 +1 +2 -3 -2 -1 0 -1 0 +2 0 -1 -1 -1 +11 +14 +11 +8 0 +7 +9 +5 +4 -2 +4 +4 +5 +4 +2 1 Includes those engineers who reported they were professionally active to prior 1930. Earnings of the next higher age group showed practically no change. 174 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 -3 4 For succeeding age groups the declines in earnings were progressively greater. Thus, while there was a 15-percent decrease between 1929 and 1934 at the middle level of earnings of engineers who were 30 in 1929 and 35 in 1934, the decrease was as high as 24 percent for engi neers who were 65 years of age in 1934. A similar situation existed at the other four earnings levels, for all engineers, and also for graduate engineers only, as shown in table 69. Furthermore, it is to be noted that, among engineers up to 35 years of age in 1934, the earnings at the upper levels fell less than at the average. At all ages the greatest loss was at the lower levels. Earnings and Education, W ithout Regard to Age Of all engineers who furnished information on the monthly rates of compensation received by them for engineering services in 1929, 21,205 were graduates and 7,305 were “ other” or nongraduate engi neers. The former number represented 86 percent of the 24,837 graduates, and the latter covered 81 percent of the 9,015 “ other” engineers who reported that they were professionally active prior to 1930. A comparison of the engineering earnings of these two groups is shown, without regard to age and kind of engineering employment reported, in table 70. Although the figures in the third from the last column in table 70 indicate an advantage in favor of those men who have engineering degrees, this advantage is less clearly defined than was indicated in the similar analysis of earned annual incomes. This is evidenced by the fact that only at the highest earnings level did the earnings of graduates of all five professional classes exceed those of “ other” engineers. Even at this level, the advantage did not accrue in equal measure for each of the five professional classes. Thus, while the monthly earnings of the upper one-tenth of the mining and metallurgical graduates exceeded those of the upper tenth of the “ other” or nongraduate engineers by $94 a month, the differ ences in monthly engineering earnings among the four remaining pro fessional classes ranged from $31 for mechanical and industrial engi neers to $61 for chemical and ceramic engineers. A t the upper 25percent level, the engineering earnings of mechanical and industrial graduates and “ other” engineers were practically the same. There was a difference of only $13 between the earnings of the two groups in the case of mining and metallurgical engineers, and for electrical engineers the difference was only $22 a month. However, at this level, in the case of chemical and ceramic engineers and civil engineers the dif ferences were much higher, being $61 and $62 per month, respectively. At these two earnings levels, the relationships between the earnings of graduates and “ other” or nongraduate engineers in 1932 and 1934 were similar to those just noted for 1929. M O N TH LY EARNINGS' OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS, 19 2 9 - 3 4 175 70.— C om p a riso n o f 5 levels o f m on th ly en gin eerin g ea rnings in 1 9 2 9 , 1 9 8 2 , and 1 9 8 4 o f older 1 graduate and “ other” en gineers reporting, by professio n a l class T able [Without regard to kind of engineering employment reported] Monthly engineering earnings of more than specified amount Percentage of professional class at specified earnings level2 Graduate engi neers 3 1929 10 percent: Mining and metallurgical______________ $803 Chemical and ceramic______________ 737 Mechanical and industrial_____________ 684 Electrical________ __________________ 594 Civil, agricultural, and architectural____ 544 25 percent: Mining and metallurgical. _____________ 506 Chemical and ceramic_________________ 494 Mechanical and industrial_____________ 454 Electrical_________________ . . . _____ 408 397 Civil, agricultural, and architectural____ 50 percent: Mining and metallurgical______________ 337 Chemical and ceramic_________________ 329 Mechanical and industrial_____________ 308 Civil, agricultural, and architectural____ 287 E l e c t r i c a l .__ _______ _____ __ ___ 276 75 percent: Mining and metallurgical______________ 240 222 Chemical and ceramic _ __________ 219 Mechanical and industrial. _ . Civil, agricultural, and architectural____ 217 Electrical_____ ______________________ . 199 90 percent: Mining and metallurgical______________ 185 169 Civil, agricultural, and architectural____ 160 Mechanical and industrial_____________ Chemical and ceramic_________________ 156 Electrical_______ ______________________ 145 “ Other engi neers 4 Percentage earn ings of “ other” en gineers formed of those of graduate engineers 1932 1934 1929 1932 1934 1929 1932 $617 636 537 516 463 $612 632 514 505 427 $709 676 653 557 478 $501 596 511 504 385 $512 553 495 482 352 88 92 95 94 88 81 94 95 98 83 84 88 96 95 82 423 433 385 357 336 413 426 362 352 313 493 433 455 386 335 403 408 364 336 290 392 365 341 319 268 97 88 100 95 84 95 86 94 91 86 290 297 265 249 252 280 290 249 231 246 318 307 317 258 272 274 289 262 224 238 260 260 236 206 229 94 93 103 90 99 95 94 95 94 86 94 97 99 90 94 202 206 188 190 187 197 203 180 177 187 246 216 243 207 206 197 206 188 174 179 186 185 171 156 168 103 97 111 95 104 98 100 100 92 96 94 91 95 88 90 142 143 138 150 145 145 140 136 146 144 195 164 192 154 159 132 131 134 121 128 135 128 125 129 126 105 97 120 99 110 93 92 97 81 89 93 91 92 89 88 1934 93 90 95 89 93 1Includes those engineers who reported they were professionally active prior to 1930. 2 Arranged in ascending order of graduate monthly engineering earnings for 1929. 3 Graduate engineers include all postgraduates, nonengineering graduates, and first-degree engineering graduates. 4 “ Other” engineers include all engineers with college course incomplete, noncollegiate technical school course, and secondary-school education. At the average and at the two lower levels of earnings, the ratios of engineering earnings of the two groups of engineers were practically the same as those noted for earned annual incomes. That is, in 1929 there was a slight advantage in favor of the “ other” engineers, which was maintained to a somewhat greater degree in 1932 and 1934 than was the case for earned annual incomes. In part, however, this ad vantage in earnings of “ other” engineers was due primarily to a higher age among the nongraduates in the groups compared. Earnings Related to Age and Type o f Education The advantages in increased earning capacity accruing from formal education are better seen in table 71, which shows the engineering earnings by type of education and by age. Only the median earnings are given, as insufficient data were obtained to warrant a complete comparison for all age groups and types of education at the two higher and lower earnings levels. 176 E M P L O Y M E N T , EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 - 3 4 T a b l e 71 .— M e d ia n m on th ly en gineering earnings in 1 9 2 9 y 1 9 8 2 , and 1 9 8 4 o f all en gineers reporting , b y age and typ e o f education [Without regard to kind of engineering employment reported] Oth(irs with— Mechanical and all others Secondary-school education 408 424 407 358 328 484 438 428 368 (2) 410 506 483 440 405 440 493 437 458 405 310 315 318 302 273 440 420 423 401 335 (2) 347 286 293 269 (2) 380 402 354 326 320 360 353 308 310 32-35____________ 28-31____________ 26-27____________ 24-25____ _______ 23____ ____ ______ 1917-20 1921-24 1925-26 1927-28 1929 9-12 5-8 3-4 1-2 0 307 266 220 180 145 335 255 224 166 152 395 295 236 179 150 305 260 220 187 155 338 264 213 167 137 337 285 224 180 141 370 284 235 183 156 257 220 204 184 166 319 267 215 193 178 254 218 210 187 160 290 253 211 186 150 275 233 192 183 160 Electrical Postgraduates I Civil, agricultural, and architectural (2) 510 493 523 487 Mining and metal- | lurgical I 480 493 482 414 416 Mechanical and in dustrial (2) 484 455 421 350 Civil, agricultural, and architectural 41+ 33-40 25-32 17-24 13-16 Chemical and ce ramic 0) 1889-96 1897-1904 1905-12 1913-16 Year of gradu ation Age (in years) Nonengineering graduates 64 and over______ 56-63____________ 48-55____________ 40-47____________ 36-39____________ Years after graduation Civil, agricultural, and architectural NoncolCollege legiate course in technical complete course Mechanical and all others First-degree engineering graduates 1929 earnings (in dollars) 1932 earnings fin dollars) (2) 67 and over....... . 59-66____________ 51-58____________ 43-50____________ 39-42____________ (0 1889-96 1897-1904 1905-12 1913-16 44+ 36-43 28-35 20-27 16-19 (2) 435 421 365 318 260 400 427 384 353 336 367 334 307 289 (2) 415 420 353 330 420 416 390 351 327 (2) 420 443 418 420 356 374 314 247 273 262 258 235 380 335 333 326 284 (2) 267 247 249 232 (2) 300 311 289 270 295 311 311 273 265 35-38____________ 31-34____________ 29-30____________ 27-28____________ 26_______________ 1917-20 1921-24 1925-26 1927-28 1929 12-15 8-11 6-7 4-5 3 294 249 220 188 157 305 245 227 190 149 324 273 223 185 149 262 232 208 187 164 309 243 202 178 152 301 250 211 175 152 300 239 206 162 149 226 206 187 168 149 263 228 189 174 148 222 193 180 154 163 244 209 180 156 150 234 212 173 168 130 25______________ 24_______________ 23______________ 1930 1931 1932 2 1 0 142 119 110 149 120 144 124 108 149 134 116 136 118 103 137 120 106 143 114 97 156 145 143 133 131 127 167 (2) (2) 140 135 (2) 150 140 (2) (2) (*) 1934 earnings (in dollars) 69 and over______ 61-68____________ 53-60____________ 45-52___________ 41-44____________ (0 1889-96 1897-1904 1905-12 1913-16 46+ 38-45 30-37 22-29 18-21 (2) 376 386 339 299 250 370 387 353 384 (2) (2) 426 425 350 306 331 296 285 263 (2) 408 379 349 333 330 370 346 333 303 (2) 400 340 347 302 210 257 240 236 218 310 300 320 301 254 (2) 256 220 227 208 (2) 227 297 261 247 280 283 298 252 254 37-40___________ 33-36____________ 31-32____________ 29-30____________ 28__ ____ ________ 1917-20 1921-24 1925-26 1927-28 1929 14-17 10-13 8-9 6-7 5 279 241 217 186 166 305 242 208 197 164 340 287 228 198 170 244 218 198 179 163 300 240 205 180 162 283 239 207 180 165 311 237 207 183 153 201 183 166 156 145 247 216 184 170 153 199 183 158 142 160 228 198 180 159 150 229 198 162 153 134 27_______________ 26_______________ 25______ _________ 24_______________ 23_______________ 1930 1931 1932 1933 1934 4 3 2 144 137 123 120 95 145 131 130 123 130 153 134 122 114 107 150 143 131 126 116 145 127 114 109 106 149 132 118 110 106 143 143 120 118 113 145 137 124 126 118 135 145 136 117 107 155 110 (2) (2) 133 131 113 138 108 150 153 (2) 1 Prior to 1889. 1 0 2 Fewer than 10 engineers reported. no (2) no M O N TH LY EARNINGS OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS, 19 2 9 - 3 4 177 The extra years of experience which the “ other” or nongraduate engineers had while the graduates were in school permitted of their obtaining higher earnings than graduates only up to a point corre sponding to 5 years after graduation. Even at 2 years after gradua tion, in 1929 the differences in earnings between the two groups were slight. Thus, while the median monthly earnings of “ other” or nongraduate engineers ranged from $183 for secondary-school engi neers to $193 for mechanical engineers whose college course was in complete, the earnings of graduates engaged in engineering work ranged from $166 per month for those with a nonengineering education to $187 for first-degree civil engineers. A t 4 years after graduation, as will be seen from chart 13, the graduates were beginning to pull ahead of the “ other” or nongraduate engineers. Thus, while the range in the median monthly earnings of the former was from $213 for first-degree electrical engineers to $236 a month for first-degree chemical and ceramic engineers, it was from $192 for engineers with secondary-school education to $215 a month for mechanical and industrial engineers with incomplete college courses in the case of the “ other” or nongraduate engineers. Beginning at 5 years after gradua tion, the effect of a formal education on engineering earnings was accentuated. For example, at 11 years after graduation, the average monthly earnings of first-degree civil engineers were greater than those of the “ other” or nongraduate engineers of this professional class. The median monthly earnings were $305 for graduates, $257 for those whose college courses were incomplete, and $254 for civil engi neers who had attended noncollegiate technical schools. Similarly, in the case of first-degree electrical engineers and mechanical and industrial engineers, earnings were greater than those reported by the members of these professional classes whose college courses were incomplete or who had attended noncollegiate technical schools.8 It will also be noted that while mechanical engineers with incomplete college courses had the highest earnings of any of the groups of “ other” or nongraduate engineers, their earnings differed very little from those of first-degree civil engineers. Thus, at 11 years after graduation the latter reported median earnings of $305 a month as against $319 a month for mechanical engineers with incomplete college courses. The corresponding figures at 29 years after graduation were $407 and $423 a month. Furthermore, from 5 to 37 years after graduation, there was a fairly uniform relationship in the ranking of the earnings reported by the several types of education. Relatively, this uniformity was most marked among the “ other” or nongraduate engineers. Thus, 8 The term “ mechanical and all others” shown in table 71 under “ college course incomplete” and “ non collegiate technical schools” includes chemical and ceramic, electrical, industrial, and mining and metal lurgical engineers. 178 E M P LO YM E N T, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 - 3 4 CHART 13 COMPARISON OF MEDIANS OF MONTHLY RATE OF COMPENSATION ACCORDING TO AGE. 1929 INCLUDES COMPENSATION FOR A LL KINDS OF ENGINEERING SERVICES REPORTED DOLLARS DOLLARS 1,200 -- ---P O STG RAD UATES N O N E N G IN E ER IN G G RADUATES F irst Degree E ngineering Graduates C H E M IC A L AND C E R A M IC CIVIL. AG RIC U LTU R A L.A N D A R C H IT E C T U R A L ELECTRICAL MECHANICAL A N D IN D U S T R IA L MINING AND M ETALLURG ICAL College Course Incom plete CIVIL, A G R IC U L TU R A L,A N D A R C H IT E C T U R A L M EC H A N IC A L AND O TH E R S Noncollegiate Technical Course C IV IL .A G R IC U LTU R A L A ND A R C H ITE C TU R A L M E CHA NICAL AND O T H E R S SECONDARY S C H O O L E D U C A TIO N 1,100 1,200 1,100 1,000 900 800 700 300 - 200 too - A ge in Years 23125 27 Years a ft e r Graduation 2 4 U.S. Bureau of L abor S tatistics MONTHLY EARNINGS OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS, 1 9 2 9 -3 4 179 while secondary-school engineers remained tenth in order, civil engi neers whose college courses were incomplete, or who had attended noncollegiate technical schools, held, respectively, eleventh and twelfth places. Over the same period, first-degree chemical and ceramic engineers were first in order. They did, however, rank tenth at 2 years after graduation. Among the remaining types of education such shifts as did occur were not very pronounced. Even in 1934, the same relative positions were maintained. W ith advancing age, the 1929 data show that there was a consid erable advantage in engineering earnings in favor of the graduates. Thus, between civil engineers who had first degrees and those who had incomplete college courses, the differences for men 28, 33, 43, 53, and 60 years of age were $24, $45, $55, $93, and $109 a month, while between those with first degrees and noncollegiate technical school educations, the corresponding differences were $20, $48, $65, $118, and $77 a month.9 There was also a distinct variation in the earning capacities among both graduate and “ other” or nongraduate engineers. Thus, at 10 years after graduation, the 1929 median monthly engineering earnings of graduates ranged from $290 for civil engineers to $368 for chemical and ceramic engineers. Graduates' median earnings 30 years after graduation ranged from $408 for civil engineers to $492 in the case of chemical and ceramic engineers. For “ other” engineers, the range in earnings of men whose ages corresponded to 10 years after gradua tion, that is 33 years, was from $242 to $300 a month; and at 53 years of age, or corresponding to 30 years after graduation, the range was from $290 to $422 a month. A t both of these age points, the lowest earnings among “ other” engineers were reported by noncollegiate technical school civil engineers, the highest by mechanical and indus trial engineers with incomplete college education. A further advantage of formal engineering education was that graduate earnings from engineering work continued to increase for several years beyond the point of maximum earnings of “ other” or nongraduate engineers. The earnings of the latter either remained stable or declined at 53 years of age. Consideration will now be given to the effect of the depression on earnings of men with advancing years and experience and different educational backgrounds. Over the period 1929-34, the data in table 72 indicate that the graduates who were 23% years in 1929 and 28% years in 1934 received increased earnings for all kinds of engineering, except in the case of mining and metallurgical. There were, however, no increases reported by any of the “ other” or nongraduate engineers of corresponding • Figures derived from data plotted on semilogarithmic-paper. 180 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS---- ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 -3 4 ages. B y contrast, for the selected age groups of 52 to 57 and 44 to 49 years, decreases in earnings occurred among both graduate and “ other” engineers in almost equal measure. For example, for engi neers who were 44 years in 1929 and 49 in 1934, the earnings of the graduates declined from 19 to 24 percent, while those of the “ other” engineers fell by 18 to 25 percent. T a b l e 7 2 . — C om p a rison o f m ed ia n m on th ly en gineering earnings in 1 9 2 9 , 1 9 3 2 , and 1 9 3 4 o f selected age grou p s o f en gineers reporting, by typ e o f education [Without regard to kind of engineering employment reported] Engineers whose ages were— Type of education 60 63 65 52 55 57 44 47 49 25 28 30 23^ 26^ 28^ in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in 1929 1932 1934 1929 1932 1934 1929 1932 1934 1929 1932 1934 1929 1932 1934 Median monthly engineering earnings Postgraduates____ __ _ ______ $484 $435 $376 Nonengineering graduates____ __ 493 400 370 First-degree engineering graduates: Chemical and ceramic______ 510 0) C1) Civil, agricultural, and archi tectural__________________ 424 367 331 Electrical---------- ------------- 484 415 408 Mechanical and industrial___ 506 416 370 Mining and metallurgical___ 493 420 400 College course incomplete: Civil, agricultural, and archi tectural— 315 273 257 Mechanical and others 2____ 420 335 300 Noncollegiate technical course: Civil, agricultural, and archi tectural---------- --------------- 347 267 256 Mechanical and others2------ 380 300 227 Secondary-school education_____ 360 311 283 $455 $421 $386 $421 $365 $339 $180 $188 $186 $145 $157 $166 482 427 387 414 384 353 166 190 197 152 149 164 493 420 426 523 443 425 407 438 483 437 334 40 390 356 296 379 346 340 358 428 440 458 307 353 351 374 285 349 333 347 318 262 240 302 258 236 423 333 320 401 326 301 179 185 198 150 149 '170 187 167 180 183 187 178 175 162 179 180 180 183 155 137 141 156 164 152 152 149 163 162 165 153 184 168 156 166 149 145 193 174 170 178 148 153 286 247 220 293 249 227 187 154 142 160 163 160 402 311 297 354 289 261 186 156 159 150 150 150 353 311 298 308 273 252 183 168 153 160 130 134 Percentage increase or decrease— 1929 1929 1932 1929 1929 1932 1929 1929 1932 1929 1929 1932 1929 1929 1932 to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to 1934 1932 1934 1934 1932 1934 1934 1932 1934 1934 1932 1934 1934 1932 1934 Postgraduates-------------------------Nonengineering graduates---------First-degree engineering gradiates: Chemical and ceramic______ Civil, agricultural, and archi tectural__________ ______ Electrical__________________ Mechanical and industrial__ Mining and metallurgical___ College course incomplete: Civil, agricultural, and archi tectural_________________ Mechanical and others 2------Noncollegiate technical course: Civil, agricultural, and archi tectural________________ Mechanical and others 2------Secondary-school education_____ -2 2 -1 0 -1 4 -1 5 - 7 - 8 -1 9 -1 3 - 7 +3 +4 - 1 +14 +8 +6 -2 5 -1 9 - 8 -2 0 -1 1 - 9 -1 5 - 7 - 8 +19 +14 +4 +8 - 2 +10 0) 0) 0) -2 2 -1 6 -2 7 -1 9 -13 -1 4 -1 8 -1 5 -1 0 -2 -11 -5 -1 4 -1 5 +1 -1 9 -1 5 - 4 +11 +3 +7 +13 - 1 +14 -2 7 -13 -2 8 -2 2 -1 8 -4 -1 9 -19 -11 -1 0 -11 -4 -2 0 -1 8 -2 4 -2 4 -1 4 -1 8 -2 0 -1 8 -7 -1 -5 -7 -4 0 - 4 +5 +6 - 1 +8 +7 +1 +18 +11 +7 0 - 3 +3 +17 +8 +9 0 -1 1 +13 - 2 - 4 +3 -1 8 -1 3 - 6 -25 -1 8 - 8 -2 2 -1 5 - 9 -1 5 - 9 - 7 -1 3 -1 0 - 3 -2 9 -2 0 -1 0 -2 4 -2 1 - 4 -2 5 -1 9 - 8 -1 2 -1 0 - 2 -1 4 -1 7 +3 0 +2 - 2 -2 6 -2 3 - 4 -2 3 -1 4 -11 -2 3 -1 5 - 9 -2 4 -1 8 - 8 0 0 0 -4 0 -2 1 -2 4 -2 6 -23 - 5 -2 6 -1 8 -1 0 -1 5 -1 6 +2 -21 -1 4 - 9 -1 6 -1 2 - 4 -1 8 -11 - 8 -1 6 - 8 - 9 -1 6 -1 9 +3 1 Fewer than 10 engineers reported. 2 Includes chemical and ceramic, electrical, industrial, and mining and metallurgical engineers. On the other hand, for men with identical years of experience, the earnings received in 1934 by both graduates and “ other” engineers MONTHLY EARNINGS OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS, 1 9 2 9 -3 4 181 were all less than those which were obtained in 1929. Thus, in table 73 it will be noted that at 2 years after graduation the earnings obtained for engineering services in 1934 were less than those received in 1929 by from 32 to 41 percent for all types of education, except nonengineering graduates and those engineers with a secondary-school education. In the case of nonengineering graduates, the earnings were 24 percent less and for engineers with secondary-school education they were 29 percent less. Again it will be noted that the decreases reported by men with 5 years’ experience were, in general, greater than those for men who had had but 2 years’ experience and also greater than the declines in earnings reported for men with from 10 to 37 years’ experience. T a b l e 73. — P ercentage decrease in m edian m on th ly en gin eerin g ea rn in gs, 1 9 2 9 to 1 9 8 4 , f o r corresp on d in g yea rs after gradu ation , by typ e o f education [Without regard to kind of engineering employment reported] Type of education Percentage decrease in earnings at specified years after graduation 2 Postgraduates____________________________________ Nonengineering graduates___ ____ _________________ First-degree engineering graduates: Chemical and ceramic_____ ____________________ Civil, agricultural, and architectural___________ Electrical__________ _________________________ Mechanical and industrial_____________________ Mining and metallurgical,__ _______ ____ ______ College course incomplete: Civil, agricultural, and architectural. .......... ........ Mechanical and others 3_______________________ Noncollegiate technical course: Civil, agricultural, and architectural____________ Mechanical and others 3___ . .. Secondary-school education. _ __________ _________ 5 10 20 30 37 32 24 34 33 24 30 26 i8 21 23 34 32 34 39 37 36 32 33 35 42 33 30 31 32 37 31 25 20 i 10 32 14 29 18 30 22 33 34 30 37 31 36 26 34 24 27 21 25 41 36 29 26 37 28 31 34 34 27 29 18 23 31 23 33 24 19 21 23 (3) 27 19 30 27 1 Despite the fact that at 20 years after graduation, nonengineering graduates and mechanical and in dustrial engineers show only 8- and 10-percent decreases in earnings, the consistency of the remaining de creases shown is too regular for these particular differences to have any effect on the general argument. 2 Fewer than 10 engineers reported. 3Includes chemical and ceramic, electrical, industrial, and mining and metallurgical engineers. Earnings by Kind of Engineering Employment In the preceding section no attempt was made to relate earnings to the kinds of engineering employment reported at the end of 1929, 1932, and 1934.10 The numbers of engineers 11 who furnished this particular information are shown compared in table 74 with the numbers who also stated their monthly rate of compensation. In each of the 3 years 10 Employment (1) with private firm, (2) as independent consultant, (3) in teaching, or with (4) Federal, (5) State and county, or (6) municipal and other public authorities, u The general analysis of engineering earnings in 1929 was based on 28,511 engineers; table 74 shows only 27.206 engineers reporting kind of employment and earnings in the same year. The difference of 1,305 is accounted for as follows: The data for 28,511 engineers were complied from two separate tabulations—one for graduates by year of graduation, and a second for “ other” engineers by year of birth. The data for the 27.206 engineers were compiled by year of birth only. Clearly, 1,305 graduates did not furnish their year of birth. 285208°—41- 13 182 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS---- ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 192 9 - 3 4 more than 90 percent reported monthly engineering earnings. This was the case for all types of engineering employment, except independ ent consulting. Among consultants the proportions reporting earn ings ranged from 69.5 percent in 1932 to 76.0 percent in 1929. T a b l e 74 .— C om p a riso n o f total n u m ber o f en gineers reporting k in d o f en gin eerin g em p lo ym en t o n ly and total num ber reporting m on th ly ea rnings f r o m en gin eerin g em p lo ym en t at end o f 1 9 2 9 , 1 9 3 2 , and 1 9 3 4 [Figures adjusted as explained on p. 34] All engineers 1929 Kind of engineering employment 1934 1932 Per Per Per Total Num cent Total Num cent Total Num cent num num ber ber num ber age age age ber ber report report report report ber report report report report ing report ing ing ing ing ing ing ing income income income income ing income income 29, 298 27, 206 92.9 28. 373 25, 990 91.6 31,870 29,820 93.6 Private firm .. _ __ 19, 590 Chemical and ceramic.. 1,035 Civil, agricultural, and architectural. _ _ _ _ 5,193 Electrical.. _ _ _ ___ - 5,844 Mechanical and indus trial________________ 6,588 Mining and metallurgi cal. ___ 930 Independent consulting. ___ 1, 311 Teaching_________________ 1, 716 Federal Government--------1, 614 State and county govern 2, 677 ment. . . . __________ Municipal government and 2, 390 other public authority___ 18,162 949 92.7 91.7 16, 728 1,143 15, 211 1,044 90.9 91.3 18,433 1, 597 17,110 1,496 92.8 93.7 4, 863 5, 461 93.6 93.4 3,608 5,300 3, 231 4,900 89.6 92.5 3, 258 5,651 3,003 5, 287 92.2 93.6 6,041 91.7 5, 849 5,289 90.4 6,951 6,421 92.4 848 997 1, 626 1, 510 91.2 76.0 94.8 93.6 828 1,500 1,934 2, 340 747 1,042 1,828 2, 227 90.2 69.5 94.5 95.2 976 1, 295 1,895 4,137 903 949 1,820 3,974 92.5 73.3 96.0 96.1 2,617 97.8 3,422 3, 338 97.5 3,694 3,634 98.4 2,294 96.0 2,449 2,344 95.7 2,416 2, 333 96.6 All kinds_________________ Since the earnings by kind of engineering employment are first discussed without regard to age, it. is pertinent at the outset to note that there is a distinct variation in the age composition of the samples of reporting engineers in the several professional classes. This is made evident by considering the numbers of those engineers, classi fied by age, who reported that they were in the employ of private firms in 1934 (table 75). The differences in age composition seriously affect comparisons between chemical engineers and the other four professional classes. Among the men engaged in chemical engineering in 1934 some 36.5 percent constituted men who had entered the pro fession since 1929. B y contrast, the proportions of the younger engineers in the other professions were less striking, ranging from 14.3 percent in the case of electrical engineers to 18.1 percent for mechan ical and industrial engineers. 183 MONTHLY EARN I NOS10F PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS, 192 9 - 3 4 T a b l e 75 .— A g e d istribu tion in 1 9 3 4 o f en gineers em p lo yed b y private fir m s reporting m on th ly com p en sa tion solely f r o m en gin eerin g w ork , by p r ofessio n a l class [Figures adjusted as explained on p. 34] Age in years Professional class Total Younger engineers i 20-23 24 25 26 Older engineers 2 27 28 70 29 30-39 40-49 50-59 60-69 and over Number Chemical and ceramic_______ Civil, agricultural, and archi tectural_________ ________ Electrical_________ __________ Mechanical and industrial___ Mining and metallurgical_____ 1,496 180 106 102 95 63 86 3,003 5, 287 6, 421 903 126 175 320 40 70 117 214 27 80 146 207 27 83 175 231 27 92 145 195 26 96 335 318 44 84 414 261 85 19 1 91 834 896 306 2,063 1,215 253 2, 231 1,545 33 280 257 484 517 713 115 128 86 180 25 23 7 14 2 5.7 1.2 0.1 29.8 16.1 23.0 9.8 24.1 11.1 28.4 12.7 4.3 1.6 2.8 2.8 0.8 0.1 0.2 0.2 Percentage Chemical and ceramic________ Civil, agricultural, and archi tectural___________________ Electrical____________________ Mechanical and industrial____ Mining and metallurgical____ 100.0 12.0 7.1 6.8 6.4 4.2 5.7 5.6 27.7 17.5 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 2.3 2.2 3.3 3.0 2.7 2.8 3.2 3.0 2.8 3.3 3.6 3.0 3.1 2.7 3.0 2.9 3.2 6.3 5.0 4.9 3.0 5.8 3.9 3.7 4.2 3.3 5.0 4.4 27.7 39.1 34.8 31.0 1 Graduate and “ other” engineers who entered the profession in the years 1930-34, inclusive. 2 Graduate and “ other” engineers who reported they were professionally active prior to 1930. Furthermore, in the case of those engineers who reported that they were professionally active prior to 1930, it will also be noted that chem ical and ceramic engineering comprised a relatively higher propor tion of younger men, as was also the case for electrical engineering. On the other hand, the proportion of older men in the three other professional classes was greater. These proportions were approxi mately the same for mechanical and industrial engineers and mining and metallurgical engineers, and relatively higher in the case of civil engineers.12 In table 76 the effort is made to contrast the earnings opportunities afforded by different kinds of employment, which is of significance insofar as one kind of employment uses a larger proportion of younger engineers than another. Even though one pays as much as or more than another for engineers with any given amount of experience, it may be incorrect to assume that it offers as much high-salaried employment as that form of employment that uses a larger pro portion of experienced engineers. In this sense, it is correct to say that in 1929 private-firm employment in mining and metallurgical engineering paid the highest rates for its engineering services as a 12 These differences in age composition should be borne in mind throughout the ensuing analysis. Similar remarks apply to the later discussion of earnings by (1) fields of engineering activity, (2) types of engineering work, (3) regional location, and (4) size of city. Furthermore, since the incidence and intensity of the depression on corresponding age groups in each professional class has been shown to be fairly consistent, an analysis of the age composition of each one for 1929 or 1932 would not differ markedly from that shown for 1934. 184 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 -3 4 whole, that private employment in chemical engineering came next, and was followed in order by mechanical, civil, and electrical engineer ing. In the order as stated, the median monthly earnings reported for 1929 were $338, $341, $314, $300, and $276. These relationships held at all levels of earnings with only one significant exception. T a b l e 76 .— C o m p a riso n o f 5 levels o f m on th ly en gineering ea rnings at end o f 1 9 2 9 , 1 9 3 2 , and 1 9 3 4 o f all en gin eers rep o rtin g , hy k in d o f en gin eerin g em p lo ym en t [Figures adjusted as explained on p. 3 " Proportion with monthly engineering income of more than specified amount Kind of engineering employment 10 percent 25 percent 50 percent 75 percent 90 percent 1929 1932 1934 1929 1932 1934 1929 1932 1934 1929 1932 1934 1929 1932 1934 D ol D ol D ol D ol D ol D ol Private firm___ 638 522 491 434 358 Chemical and ceramic_____ 746 606 518 498 414 Civil, agricultural, and ar chitectural. . . . . . 618 508 475 422 345 Electrical____ 581 506 479 404 342 Mechanical and industrial - _ 684 538 490 465 373 Mining and metallurgical. _. 797 612 571 510 416 1, 251 727 763 731 430 Independent consulting. Teaching_________ ___ 554 507 478 417 375 434 408 373 351 318 Federal Government . . . . . State and county government... 377 345 320 303 272 Municipal government and other public authority___ __ 457 425 399 347 324 D ol D ol D ol D ol D ol D ol D ol D ol D ol 329 301 247 220 220 170 150 342 341 258 197 230 159 131 167 127 112 174 125 103 322 324 328 377 426 357 275 242 300 276 314 338 439 310 264 236 180 153 173 189 209 190 163 155 302 272 248 227 222 200 176 247 235 253 277 245 281 230 212 229 220 216 240 256 266 204 190 226 204 228 244 291 240 196 195 179 167 171 176 144 215 173 159 162 154 145 154 153 204 154 148 126 128 126 126 86 164 143 132 122 115 108 119 94 153 129 122 188 152 140 Percentage increase or decrease e* CO 05 Private firm_____ _ ____ Chemical and ceramic .. Civil, agricultural, and ar chitectural _________ Electrical_______ Mechanical and industrial. _ Mining and metallurgical__ Independent consulting Teaching__________ ______ Federal Government _____ .. State and county government.._ Municipal government and other public authority .. _ _ A 05 op d 1 ts <N CO i r"< £ A | op !05 <N CO S oo rH rH op g s op 05 s 05 op § <N 05 op c* CO ,“i -2 3 -1 8 - 6 -2 4 -1 8 - 8 -2 7 -1 8 -1 1 -3 2 -2 3 -1 2 -3 3 -2 4 -1 2 -31 -1 9 -1 5 -3 1 -1 7 -1 7 -4 2 -2 4 -2 4 -4 3 -3 1 -1 8 -4 1 -2 8 -1 8 -2 3 -1 8 -2 8 -2 8 -3 9 -1 4 -1 4 -1 5 -1 8 -1 3 -2 1 -2 3 -4 2 -8 -6 -8 -1 3 - 7 -6 -5 -9 -7 +5 -6 -9 -7 -2 4 -2 0 -2 9 -2 6 -4 2 -1 4 -2 2 -2 0 -1 8 -1 5 -2 0 -1 8 -41 -1 0 -9 -1 0 - 6 -1 3 - 7 -7 -5 -1 2 -9 -1 -5 -1 4 -1 1 -2 4 -2 0 -3 1 -2 9 -4 2 -1 4 -2 3 -1 9 -1 8 -1 5 -1 9 -1 8 -4 4 -9 -1 3 -1 0 - 7 -1 7 - 9 -7 -6 -1 5 -1 3 +4 -5 -1 1 -1 0 -2 8 -2 5 -3 6 -3 7 -4 7 -1 5 -2 1 -2 4 -2 1 -1 8 -2 5 -2 8 -51 -1 0 -1 2 -1 8 -9 -8 -1 5 -1 3 +6 -5 -1 1 -7 -3 2 -2 5 -3 8 -3 7 -5 5 -1 9 -2 1 -21 -3 0 -1 6 -2 7 -3 3 -5 9 -1 4 -1 2 -1 5 -3 -1 0 -1 4 -6 +9 -7 -1 0 -8 - 8 -2 1 -1 0 -1 2 -2 6 -1 9 - 8 However, these figures do not shed fight directly on the adequacy of the rates paid for similar types of service. For example, electrical engineers in 1934 were younger than civil engineers (table 75). It is perhaps not surprising, therefore, that in 1929 electrical engineers earned less than civil engineers in private-firm employment. N or is it surprising that at the level of earnings of the lowest 10 percent in private employ in 1929, civil engineers should rise from fourth to second place. Conversely, the earnings of chemical engineers in private firm employment in 1929 appear in even a more favorable light when it is realized that they are nearly the same as for the older group of mining engineers at the three intermediate levels. MONTHLY EARNINGS! OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS, 1 9 2 9 -3 4 185 From 1929 to 1934 there were great changes in rates of pay at all earnings levels among engineers in the employ of private firms. Differences among the various professional classes resulted in some inversion of the relative level of earnings from that reported in 1929. The order of the professional groups was the same in 1929 and 1934 for the upper 10 and 25 percent in private-firm employment, except that civil engineers were below electrical engineers in 1934. However, civil engineers rose from fifth to second place at the median and lower levels and chemical engineers fell from second to fifth. Here again, these were the rates paid in various types of engineering service. But in 1934, while 78.7 percent of the civil engineers in private-firm employment were 30 years or older, the proportion of chemical and ceramic engineers in this same age group was only 52.2 percent. In both 1929 and 1934 there was a marked spread in the earnings in private-firm employment of each professional group. As between the groups, however, there were significant differences. In 1929, the earnings of the upper 10 percent of reporting civil engineers were 106 percent greater than the median earnings of the group, the corres ponding difference for mining and metallurgical engineers was 135 percent. In the case of the other three professional classes, the dif ferences were: 111 percent for electrical engineers, 117 percent for mechanical and industrial engineers, and 119 percent for chemical and ceramic engineers. These differences in spread as between the professional groups were even more marked in 1934. Thus, the earnings of the upper 10 percent of reporting civil engineers were 107 percent greater than the median earnings of the group, the corres ponding difference for mining and metallurgical engineers was 138 percent. The differences for the other three professional classes were: 118 percent for electrical engineers, and 127 and 163 percent, respec tively, for mechanical and industrial, and chemical and ceramic engineers. As is evident from these figures, in all professional groups there was a somewhat greater dispersion of rates of pay in private-firm employ ment in 1934 than in 1929. That is to say, that in each professional class, rates of pay of engineers in the employ of private firms declined slightly more at the level of the lowest 10 percent than at the level of the highest 10 percent, and at the level of the lowest 25 percent than at the level of the highest 25 percent. Thus, the upper 10 percent of the chemical engineers in private employ earned at least 5 times as much as the lower 10 percent in 1934; in 1929 they had earned 4.3 times as much. The smallest increase in spread occurred at these levels among electrical engineers, the ratios being 3.8 in 1929 and 4.2 in 1934. While there was a general tendency to increased dispersion of rates of pay in private-firm employment between 1929 and 1934, it was 186 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 -3 4 more marked as regards the upper and lower 25 percent than with regard to the upper and lower 10 percent. Thus, among chemical engineers the upper 25 percent earned 2.2 times as much as the lower 25 percent in 1929; 2.6 times as much in 1934. This measure of dis persion at this level increased 20 percent; at the 10-percent level, cited in the earlier paragraph, 17 percent. In contrasting the rates of pay for all engineers in other kinds of employment it has not been possible to distinguish the professional groups. Nor are there enough cases to warrant the presentation of the age distributions such as were shown for private-firm employment. Age is an important factor, especially in evaluating the significance of the higher earnings in independent consulting. In 1929 there was a considerable range in earnings opportunities among the various kinds of engineering employments. While onehalf of the engineers in the employ of State and county governments earned not less than $236 a month— the lowest at this earnings level— the highest median monthly earnings of $439 were reported by independent consultants. Second in order at this same earnings level came the earnings of engineers who reported that they were engaged in the teaching of engineering subjects with $310 per month, followed by median monthly earnings of $301 for all reporting engineers in the employ of private firms. Third and fourth in order were, respectively, the earnings of engineers in the employ of municipal governments and other public authorities, and the Federal Govern ment, the respective figures being $272 and $264 a month. The gradation of earnings at the two lower earnings levels was the same as that noted for the median. At the two higher earnings levels private-firm employment exceeded teaching, being second in order after independent consultants, while the earnings of all three public engineering employments were lower in each instance than those of engineers engaged in teaching. In other words, while a smaller proportion of the engineers engaged in teaching were employed at low salaries than among those employed by private firms, a smaller proportion of the teachers were employed at high salaries. Thus, in 1929 the upper 10 percent of the teachers earned $554 per month, the lower 10 percent earned $190. In privatefirm employment the spread was from $638 to $167, and in municipal employment the spread was even narrower— from $457 to $188 per month. Here, as in teaching, a smaller proportion were employed at low salaries than in private employment, but the largest difference was in the proportion at high salaries. In 1929 the Federal Govern ment paid the lower 10 percent of its engineers as little as private industry, but the upper 10 percent earned only $434 per month or more. State and county work offered the smallest proportion o f jobs at the higher salaries. In fact, the level of earnings of the upper M O N TH LY EARNINGS’ OF PROF ESS IO N AL ENGINEERS, 1 9 2 9 - 3 4 187 25 percent in 1929 was about the same as the average in private employment. Although these data show that independent consultants had a distinct advantage in earnings, it cannot be said that this field of employment offered the greatest opportunities. In the first instance, independent consulting is generally agreed to be one in which pro fessional engineers become established only after having obtained considerable engineering experience. Furthermore, it is questionable if such a thing as a rate of compensation can be applied to this field of engineering service, for, unlike the other kinds of engineering employment, the rates reported were almost necessarily derived directly from the earned annual incomes reported. These un doubtedly are made up from fees dependent on experience and skill, as well as the cost of completion of work, rather than from a salary scale. Over the period 1929-34 there was an especially marked decline in the earnings of independent consultants as compared with the decline in rates for the other kinds of employment. These changes are to be regarded as in large part a measure of under-employment. In the other kinds of employment, the largest decline (27 percent) in average rates paid was in private-firm employment. The smallest decline (14 percent) was in teaching. State and county, and munici pal and other public employment declined 19 percent and 17 percent, respectively. Average rates with the Federal Government, reflecting in part the influx of many younger engineers, declined 23 percent. The relative attractiveness of the several employments, even aside from differences in stability of employment, changed markedly. Thus, in 1929 teaching averaged $310 and private-firm employment $301 per month. In 1934, teaching averaged $266; private-firm employment $220. In 1929 municipal employment averaged $29 less than private; in 1934, $7 more. The changes at the extremes were even more marked. The upper 10 percent of the teachers averaged $84 less than the corresponding group of private-firm employees in 1929; but only $13 less in 1934. In private-firm employment, in teaching, and among engineers employed by municipal and other public authorities, earnings of the upper 10 and 25 percent declined less than the average; earnings of the lower 10 and 25 percent, somewhat more than the average. In Federal Government employment, the declines at all but the highest level of earnings were similar to the decline of the average rate. Thus, in general, the spread of earnings was greater in 1934 than in 1929, especially the spread between the level of earnings of the upper 10 percent and the lower 10 percent. A t these levels the greatest increase in the range occurred in municipal employment (17 percent) and private employment (15 percent). Thus, the upper 10 percent 188 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 -3 4 of the municipal engineers in 1934 earned at least 2.9 times as much as the lower 10 percent; in 1929, 2.4 times as much. As between the upper and lower 25 percent, there was no change in the relative spread of earnings from 1929 to 1934 for teachers and Federal em ployees. There was about a 10-percent greater spread for privatefirm employees and municipal engineers. Valuable as the findings of the preceding analyses are it has been indicated that they must be accepted qualifiedly because it was not feasible for the Bureau to effect tabulations of these data on an age basis. Accordingly, partially to clarify such differing relationships as may exist between age and the earnings received from the several kinds of engineering employment, a separate analysis of these earn ings as reported by both older and younger engineers is warranted. Again in table 77 it will be noted that the proportions reporting earnings were in general not lower than 90 percent of the total of those reporting in each kind of engineering employment, while the proportion of independent consultants reporting was relatively much lower. The earnings data for the older engineers, that is, those men who reported they were professionally active prior to 1930, will first be considered. These are shown in table 78. However, since the earnings reported for 1929 are the same as those discussed in the preceding analysis, consideration will be given only to the changes which occurred in them over the period 1929-34. These figures emphasize the extent to which earnings in 1934 were diluted by the influx of younger engineers. It has previously been indicated that, considering each group of employed engineers as a whole, earnings fell more at the lower levels than at the higher. This did not occur among the homogeneous age groups. For the “ older” engineers the four other earnings levels sank in almost exactly the same ratio as the average in the case of private-firm employment, teaching, Federal Government, and State government employment. Furthermore, the average decline for this age group was materially less than was the case for the employment as a whole. In the case of teaching, the decline in earnings was 12 percent, the three kinds of public engineering employment averaged decreases of 14 percent, while earnings of men in private engineering fell by only 18 percent. T able 77.— Comparison of total number of engineers reporting kind of engineering employment only and total number reporting monthly earnings from engineering employment at end of 1929, 1932, and 1934, by age group 1932 1929 Kind of engineering employment Engineers born 1910-14 3 Engineers born 1907-9 2 1934 1932 1934 1934 Per Total Num Per Total Num Per Total Num Per Total Num Per Total Num Per Total Num cent cent cent num cent- num cent num cent num ber num ber ber ber num ber ber age age age age Sage age ber report report ber report report ber report report ber report report ber report report ber report report ing ing report ing ing ing ing ing ing report ing report ing report ing report ing report ing ing income income ing income income ncome income ing income income ing income income ing income income All kinds______________________________ 29,298 27,206 92.9 26,402 24,178 91.6 27,097 25,258 93.2 4,205 3,869 92.0 5,836 5,634 96.5 4,347 4,115 94.7 Private firm___________________________ Chemical and ceramic______________ Civil, agricultural, and architectural_ Electrical_______ ______ _______ Mechancial and industrial_____ _ ___ Mining and metallurgical___________ 92.7 15,487 14,081 891 976 91.7 93.6 3,357 3,010 93.4 4,939 4,567 91.7 5,429 4,904 709 91.2 786 90.9 15,210 14,041 950 91.3 1,030 89.7 2,778 2,552 92.5 4,847 4,529 90.3 5,734 5,254 90.2 821 756 92.3 92.2 91.9 93.4 91.6 92.1 2,646 356 535 770 895 90 2,413 326 471 710 824 82 91.2 91.6 88.0 92.2 92.1 91.1 3,765 575 577 1,042 1,389 182 3,616 555 545 993 1,350 173 96.0 96.5 94.5 95.3 97.2 95.1 3,114 634 448 675 1,207 150 2,936 610 419 624 1,139 144 94.3 96.2 93.5 92.4 94.4 96.0 997 1,626 1,510 2,617 76.0 94.8 93.6 97.8 1,479 1,844 2,141 3,098 1,028 1,751 2,033 3,029 69.5 95.0 95.0 97.8 1,275 1,782 3,436 3,147 935 1,720 3,292 3,100 73.3 96.5 95.8 98.5 44 193 425 692 31 165 413 660 70.5 85.5 97.2 95.4 25 149 940 735 22 139 920 721 88.0 93.3 97.9 98.1 18 91 555 430 14 75 535 419 77.8 82.4 96.4 97.4 2,294 96.0 2,353 2,256 95.9 2,247 2,170 96.6 205 187 91.2 222 216 97.3 139 136 97.8 19, 590 18,162 1,035 949 5,193 4,863 5,844 5,461 6,588 6,041 930 848 Independent consulting________________ 1,311 Teaching______________________________ 1,716 Federal Government_____ __________ 1, 614 State and county government___________ 2,677 Municipal government and other public authority____________________________ 2,390 1 Includes both graduate and “ other” engineers who reported they were professionally active prior to 1930; all tabulated on year-of-birth basis. 2Includes both graduate and “ other” engineers who entered the profession during the years 1930-32. 3Includes both graduate and “ other” engineers who entered the profession during the years 1933-34. 189 MONTHLY EARNINGS’ OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS, 192 9 - 3 4 Engineers born prior to 1907 1 190 E M P LO YM E N T, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 - 3 4 T a b l e 7 8 . — C o m p a riso n o f 5 levels o f m on th ly en gin eerin g ea rnings at en d o f 1 9 2 9 , 1 9 3 2 , and 1 9 3 4 o f all older 1 en gineers reporting, hy k in d o f en gin eerin g em p lo ym en t Proportion with monthly engineering income of more than specified. amount Kind of engineering employment 10 percent 25 percent 50 percent 75 percent 90 percent 1929 1932 1934 1929 1932 1934 1929 1932 1934 1929 1932 1934 1929 1932 1934 A l l en g in eers born p r io r to 1907 D o l. B o h D o l Chemical and ceramic. ---Civil, agricultural, and architectural - Electrical------ ------------------Mechanical and industrial - __ Mining and metallurgical__ Teaching ____ ____ __________ Federal Government______ State and county governmentMunicipal government and other public authority _. D o l. D o l, D o l. D o l. D o l. D o l. D o l. D o l. D o l. 638 544 517 434 377 360 301 260 248 220 186 183 746 640 652 498 435 430 341 296 289 230 198 197 D o l. D o l. D o l. 167 138 139 174 142 145 618 581 684 797 517 516 563 621 501 503 515 623 350 346 360 419 300 276 314 338 257 246 268 287 249 226 192 192 180 239 204 181 181 153 244 228 187 176 173 275 244 190 190 189 1, 251 554 434 377 732 511 416 351 767 731 432 428 485 417 383 364 391 351 328 297 332 303 280 257 439 310 264 236 248 288 242 220 259 291 146 156 273 240 222 212 225 196 182 169 203 195 174 160 209 87 96 190 177 168 163 150 142 155 142 137 457 429 407 347 328 309 272 252 234 222 203 186 188 159 148 422 404 465 510 356 353 395 425 137 138 139 136 146 137 133 144 Percentage increase or decrease CM os 1-1 § gg _7_ 2 !os co | 8 ios rH 1-1 CM C O CO d § 8 CO M CO C & OS i TH os s 8 i OS 1-1 CO CM | A l l en g in eers born p r io r to 1907 Private firm___________ _____ Chemical and ceramic _ _ Civil, agricultural, and archi tectural______________ _ Electrical. _______ __ _ Mechanical and industrial- - _ Mining and metallurgical___ -1 9 -1 5 - 5 -1 7 -1 3 - 5 -1 8 -1 4 - 5 -1 7 -1 5 - 2 -1 7 -1 7 + 1 -13 -1 4 +2 -1 4 -1 3 - 1 -1 5 -1 3 - 2 -1 4 -1 4 - 1 -1 7 -1 8 +2 -1 9 -1 3 -2 5 -2 2 —16 —3 —17 —16 -1 1 - 3 -1 4 -1 3 -1 8 - 9 -23 -1 5 0 -1 8 -1 7 -2 2 -2 -2 -9 -1 -1 7 -1 3 -2 2 -1 9 -1 4 -1 1 -1 5 -1 5 Independent consulting. ______ Teaching______ ___________ Federal Government______ ___ State and county government___ Municipal government and other public authority.______ ____ -3 9 -1 2 -1 0 -1 2 -4 1 +5 -41 -41 - 1 - 8 - 5 -1 3 - 8 - 5 —4 —6 -1 5 - 7 - 9 - 7 - 5 -1 5 - 8 - 8 -4 1 -1 2 -1 5 -1 4 -4 4 -H -7 -5 -8 -7 -7 -8 -1 1 - 6 - 5 -11 -5 - 6 -1 4 -7 -3 -3 -9 -4 -15 -11 -2 3 -2 2 —15 0 -11 0 -1 8 - 6 -2 2 0 -4 6 -5 0 —12 - 8 —14 - 7 -1 8 -1 1 - 7 -1 6 - 9 +7 —5 —7 -8 —19 —24 -1 0 -1 0 -23 -2 0 -2 4 -2 8 +7 —1 -4 +6 -5 4 -5 8 +10 —12 —7 —5 —13 —8 —5 -1 2 - 8 - 4 - 8 -21 -1 5 —7 i Includes both graduate and “ other” engineers who reported they were professionally active prior to 1930; all tabulated on year-of-birth basis. Those engineers who entered the profession in the years 1930-32 (table 79) reported slight increases in the earnings received in 1934 over those obtained in 1932. But engineers who entered the profes sion in the years 1933-34 received less in 1934 than did those in 1932 who had entered the profession in 1930-32. For example, while the median monthly earnings in 1932 of engineers born in 1907-9 were $133 with private firms, the most recent entrants to the profession received only $112 a month in 1934. The corresponding figures for Federal employment were $155 and $133 a m onth.13 13 It should, however, be noted that the earnings data for engineers who entered the profession in the years 1930-32 covered a period of 3 years, as against 2 years in the case of the later entrants to the profession. M O N TH LY EARNINGS OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS, 1 9 2 9 - 3 4 191 T a b l e 79,— C o m p a riso n o f 5 levels o f m on th ly en gineering earnings at end o f 1 9 3 2 rep o rtin g , b y k in d o f en gineering em p lo ym en t Engineers born 1907-9 Kind of engineering employment2 1934 income (dols.) 90 percent earned more than 75 percent earned more than 50 percent earned more than 1 25 percent earned 1 more than 10 percent earned more than 90 percent earned more than 75 percent earned more than ; 50 percent earned more than 25 percent earned 1 more than | 10 percent earned more than 1932 income (dols.) Private firm_____ __ ______ __ . 90 99 Chemical and ceramic. _ _ ____ Civil, agricultural, and architec 90 tural______________________ 90 Electrical___________________ 89 Mechanical and industrial____ Mining and metallurgical___ (3) 111 133 155 186 116 139 158 188 112 111 108 101 136 134 129 125 Teaching______ . . . _ 87 111 137 Federal Government. _ _ . __ 106 132 155 State and county government_____ 95 116 141 Municipal government and other 92 115 155 public authority_______________ 158 155 152 148 92 111 136 162 195 96 117 140 169 205 196 101 117 140 167 207 179 90 110 136 162 193 183 88 108 132 159 192 94 114 136 158 185 (3) Engineers born 1910-14 1934 income (dols.) 90 percent earned | more than 75 percent earned more than | 50 percent earned more than 25 percent earned more than 10 percent earned more than 1 en gineers | and 1 9 3 4 o f all you n g er 81 82 94 112 132 152 96 114 134 153 84 101 120 139 157 78 92 110 128 148 80 91 109 129 148 82 93 112 133 152 173 205 97 126 152 184 220 (3) 63 108 142 (3) 172 189 113 131 149 167 189 100 114 133 153 172 155 171 102 118 139 155 174 85 101 117 134 151 202 228 104 121 142 162 190 87 103 123 150 186 1 Includes both graduate and “ other” engineers who entered the profession in the years 1930-32 and 1933-34; all tabulated on a year-of-birth basis. 2 The earnings reported for independent consulting by the younger engineers are not believed to be sig nificant, and therefore are omitted. 3 Fewer than 100 persons reported. While the 2 preceding analyses have dealt with monthly engineering earnings in 6 kinds of engineering employment, similar data were also requested in regard to two other aspects of engineering services: (1) The field of engineering activity,14 and (2) the type of work15 engaged in within these fields of activity. It should again be emphasized that these data were given only for the period ending December 31, 1934, and as in the immediately preceding discussion these two groups of data are analyzed separately for older and younger engineers. Earnings by Field of Engineering Activity 16 In table 80 there are presented the numbers of engineers who reported the field of engineering activity in which they were engaged at the end of 1934. Of all older engineers reporting, 93 percent furnished their monthly rates of compensation, while, for the two groups of younger engineers the proportions furnishing this informa tion were 95 and 96 percent. This was also the case for the several fields of activity. The earnings data for these older engineers are presented in table 81. 14 These comprise: (1) Construction, (2) extractive industries, (3) public utilities, (4) transportation, (5) manufacturing, (6) personal service, and (7) Federal, (8) State and county, and (9) municipal govern ments. 16 These comprise: (1) Design and research, (2) construction, (3) operation, (4) consulting, (5) teaching, (6) sales, and (7) general administration and management. 16 A hand tabulation was made to determine the age composition of the engineers in the 5 professional classes who reported they were engaged by public utilities and in personal service. This showed that, relatively, the age composition of each professional class was similar to that noted for private firm employ ment as shown in table 75. 192 E M P LO YM E N T, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 - 3 4 T a b l e 80 , — N u m b er o f engineers reporting m on th ly en gineering ea rnings at end o f 1 9 3 4 , b y field o f en gineering activity j Field of engineering activity Municipal gov ernment j State and county government Personal service i Manufacturing j Transportation Public utilities Extractive in dustries Total Construction Age group F ederal Govern-j ment I Public employ ment 1 Private employment Number Older engineers:2 Gross number reporting________ Number reporting earnings-------Engineers born 1907-9:3 Gross number reporting________ Number reporting earnings-------Engineers born 1910-14:3___________ Gross number reporting________ Number reporting earnings-------- 25,967 2,696 1,267 3,148 1,006 7,083 2,387 3,260 3,266 946 6,484 2,210 3,106 3,196 24, 223 2,374 1,162 2,959 1,854 1,786 5, 731 5, 524 426 406 320 305 68V 671 134 2,107 133 2,023 253 238 884 855 767 745 153 148 4,192 3, 972 356 333 273 260 384 360 124 1,802 117 1,699 168 148 548 533 443 430 94 92 93 94 88 95 97 97 98 97 97 96 97 98 Percentage Older engineers____________________ Engineers born 1 9 0 7 - 9 . _ ____ Engineers born 1910-14_____________ 93 96 95 88 95 94 92 95 95 94 98 94 94 99 94 92 96 94 1 The data reported were primarily for men engaged in construction. 2 Includes both graduates and “ other” engineers who reported they were professionally active prior to 1930; all tabulated on year-of-birth basis. 3 Includes both graduates and “ other” engineers who reported they were professionally active in the year shown; all tabulated on year-of-birth basis. The earnings shown in table 81 are those of engineers with 5 years or more of experience. The figures for public employment are essentially a breakdown among the 5 professional classes of the data shown in table 77 earlier in this chapter. They are presented here largely because it becomes possible to contrast the earnings of civil engineers, the most important group in public employment, with the earnings of civil engineers in the private-construction industry, for most of the engineers in public employment are engaged in construc tion. Thus, it may be noted that the lowest averages for civil en gineers are in construction. State and county government em ployees average $205; Federal employees $221; and civil engineers in private construction $232. In general, it may be said that among engineers with 5 years or more of experience State and county employment is at lower rates than Federal or municipal. This is true of the higher and lower levels of earnings, as well as of the average level. The Federal Government averages less than municipal governments for civil engineers and mechanical engineers, but more for electrical engineers. For these three types of engineers, public employment averages less than any of the fields of private employment except construction. Thus, civil M O N TH LY EARNINGS OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS, 19 2 9 - 3 4 193 engineers averaged $234 per month in municipal employment and $232 in the private-construction industry, but ranged from $248 to $270 in other fields of private employment. Only in the case of chemical engineers do the rates in Federal employment exceed those received in the dominant field of private employment. Thus, chemical and ceramic engineers with the Federal Government averaged $300 per month in 1934 as against $296 in private manufacturing industries (and $285 in extractive industries). T a b l e 81 .— C o m p a riso n o f 5 levels o f m on th ly en gin eerin g ea rnings at en d o f 1 9 3 4 o f all older 1 en gineers reporting field o f en gineering a ctivity , by professio n a l class Monthly earnings in dollars by field of engineering activity Public utilities Transportation Manufacturing Personal service | Federal Government State and county government [ Extractive industries (3) 468 377 458 (3) (4) 529 (4) 536 634 (4) 477 534 545 (3) (3) 496 492 523 (5) 668 488 506 514 603 604 496 481 520 608 (3) 375 398 415 (4) (3) 335 (4) 356 (3) (3) 402 367 463 (3) (3) 316 268 315 (>) 420 388 328 404 432 367 362 360 374 (3) (3) 357 351 359 (5) 433 344 353 361 428 434 370 346 378 400 (3) 288 309 302 390 (3) 258 308 283 (3) (3) 308 299 342 (3) 310 232 203 221 230 285 270 270 264 277 249 251 241 269 190 320 256 260 258 (5) 296 248 251 241 295 306 269 252 279 313 300 221 228 234 265 167 205 215 208 183 253 234 215 257 220 C9 170 146 154 (3) 195 200 188 194 195 200 190 186 191 (3) (3) 199 184 186 (5) 196 189 187 175 205 215 207 200 204 233 (3) 165 186 179 196 <*) 162 152 163 (3) (3) 188 162 204 (3) (3) 128 114 118 (3) (4) 149 (4) 145 145 (4) 148 144 145 (3) (3) 161 144 144 (5) 145 145 137 132 163 143 160 149 149 183 (3) 142 144 144 (4) (3) 140 (4) 140 (3) (3) 151 138 167 (3) Construction Percentage of professional class at specified income levels 10 percent earned more than: Chemical and ceramic_____ ____ __ . . Civil, agricultural, and architectural_____ E lectrical.-._____________ . Mechanical and industrial______________ Mining and metallurgical_______________ 25 percent earned more than: Chemical and ceramic_____ ____________ Civil, agricultural, and architectural_____ Electrical______ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Mechanical and industrial______________ Mining and metallurgical—. ___________ 50 percent earned more than: Chemical and ceramic___ ____________ Civil, agricultural, and architectural __ .. Electrical_____ ______ _____ _ _ Mechanical and industrial.. _ _ _ __ Mining and metallurgical-_____ — 75 percent earned more than: Chemical and ceramic___ _ . ____ Civil, agricultural, and architectural____ Electrical_____________________________ Mechanical and industrial.- __ Mining and metallurgical. _ 90 percent earned more than: Chemical and ceramic. . . . _ . __ __ . Civil, agricultural, and architectural___ Electrical_____ ___________________ __ Mechanical and industrial. _____ ._ ___ Mining and metallurgical _ _______ . _ Municipal government Public employ ment 2 Private employment 1 Includes both graduate and “ other” engineers who reported they were professionally active prior to 1930; all tabulated on year-of-birth basis. 2 The data reported were primarily for construction. Thus, of 4,692 in Federal employment, 82 percent were so engaged. In State and county work and municipal government employ the proportions in con struction were 95 and 97 percent, respectively. 3 Fewer than 50 persons reported. 4 Fewer than 100 persons reported. « Fewer than 10 persons reported. Within the various fields of private employment, average rates in the construction industry are low. This has already been shown to 194 E M P LO YM E N T, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 - 3 4 be the case for civil engineers. It is quite as striking in the case of mechanical engineers and electrical engineers.17 Thus, in the case of chemical and ceramic engineers, while the high est median monthly earnings of $320 were received by men in trans portation work, $310 per month were reported by those engaged in private construction. Similarly, for men of the same professional class in the employ of the Federal Government and in personal serv ice, there was only a difference of $6 in the monthly earnings reported. The figures were, respectively, $300 and $306. The earnings of chemical and ceramic engineers in the employ of public utilities and those engaged on municipal government construction were practically the same. The latter figure of $253 a month was, however, less than that of $285 reported for extractive industries, while this in turn was exceeded by the earnings of $296 a month received by engineers engaged in manufacturing. For mechanical and industrial engineers the median monthly earn ings of $221 for private construction work were lower than those re ported for Federal and municipal construction. The latter, however, did exceed the median monthly earnings of $241 of men engaged in manufacturing and were the same as those earned by mechanical and industrial engineers in the field of transportation. The range in earnings of the three other fields of engineering activity was from $264 for extractive industries to $279 for men engaged in personal service. In the case of mining and metallurgical engineers only public utilities7 earnings were less than the three fields of construction work. Thus, while $190 a month were reported for the former, the range in the latter was from $220 for municipal construction to $265 for men engaged in Federal construction work. The earnings in the three remaining fields of engineering activity were greater, being $277 for extractive industries, $295 for manufacturing, and $313 for engi neers of this professional class engaged in personal service. From the preceding analysis of the 1934 median monthly earnings reported for fields of engineering activity it can be concluded that, except for contruction work, there were no marked differences in earn ings opportunities for each professional class. However, subject to the qualification that these data are analyzed without regard to age, within each field the relative earnings of the five professional classes show distinct variation. Thus, in the five fields of private engineer17 The fact that members of all 5 professional classes reported construction as a field of engineering activity has to be qualified. First, it is obvious, for example, that the numbers of opportunities for, say, chemical and ceramic engineers in construction are somewhat limited. Second, it has to be borne in mind that the field of engineering activity was requested only for the period Dec. 31,1934. At that time there was a lack of opportunities in normal fields of engineering activity for all 5 professional classes. Hence, it is highly probable that for engineers in certain professional classes the fields of engineering activity reported were more of an accidental choice than a deliberate one, due to the conditions which prevailed at that particular time. Therefore, no special significance is to be attached to the fact that the few chemical engineers hap pened to average more than those in other fields of employment. MONTHLY EARNINGS OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS, 1 9 2 9 -3 4 195 ing activity and in personal service, chemical and ceramic engineers, and mining and metallurgical engineers appear to have had a dis tinct advantage in earnings, whereas among the three other profes sional classes the differences in the median monthly earnings reported were not very great. Although a similar situation also prevailed at the two higher earnings levels, it will be noted that there was less spread in the earnings reported for public employment than in those received by engineers in the other fields of engineering activity. For example, while the median earnings of civil engineers in Federal employment were $221 a month, at the upper 10-percent earnings level the earnings received were $375 a month. B y contrast, civil engineers in manufacturing received median monthly earnings of $248 a month and $488 a month at the upper 10-percent level. T a b l e 82 .— C om p a riso n o f m ed ia n s o f m on th ly en gin eerin g ea rnings at en d o f 1 9 8 4 o f all you n g er class 1 en gineers reporting field o f en gin eerin g activity, by p rofessio n a l Monthly earnings in dollars by field of engineering activity Engineers born 1907-9: Chemical and ceramic__________________ Civil, agricultural, and architectural. __ Electrical ... ________ Mechanical and industrial.. __________ Mining and metallurgical __________ __ Engineers born 1910-14: Chemical and ceramic__________________ Civil, agricultural, and architectural____ Electrical_________________________ ____ Mechanical and industrial-. __________ Mining and metallurgical.______________ Municipal gov ernment 1 State and county government Personal service i Manufacturing Transportation Public utilities 1 Extractive indus tries Construction Professional class Federal Govern ment Public employ ment 2 Private employment (3^ 138 123 123 (3) 125 146 139 148 137 112 135 144 138 (3) (3) 151 136 133 (3) 114 142 130 131 134 95 148 146 148 157 130 150 141 151 134 (3) 140 124 127 147 (3) 140 146 144 (3) (3) 118 106 112 (3) 151 132 129 121 121 138 108 108 109 (3) (3) 142 122 112 (3) 141 114 109 108 104 130 113 103 114 (3) 150 134 116 138 135 (3^ 118 110 123 (3) (3) 127 (3) (3) (3) 1 Includes both graduate and “ other” engineers who entered the profession during the years 1930-32 and 1933-34; all tabulated on year-of-birth basis. 2 The data reported were primarily for construction work. 3 Fewer than 10 persons reported. A t the lower 25-percent earnings level the data show no marked departure from those noted in the discussion of median earnings, except that the monthly earnings reported at this level for public employment were slightly higher than those reported by engineers engaged in private construction. This condition also occurred at the lowest earnings level with the exception that the earnings reported for public employment were practically the same as those received by engineers in each of the remaining fields of engineering activity. Likewise, for the earnings shown in table 82 for two groups of younger engineers, that is, those born in the years 1907-9 and 1910-14, the 196 E M P L O Y M E N T , EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 - 3 4 monthly earnings received for public construction work were slightly greater than those received for private construction work. There was, however, very little difference in the earnings reported by each age group for public construction and those received in the other fields of engineering activity, except private construction. Earnings by Type of Engineering Work Those engineers who reported a field of engineering activity were also requested to indicate the type of work that they were engaged in within their particular field. The numbers so reporting are shown in table 83, while the earnings data of the older engineers are presented in table 84. T a b l e 8 3 . — N u m b er o f en gineers reportin g m on th ly en gineering earnings at en d o f 1984y b y typ e o f en gin eerin g w ork Type of engineering work Age group Total Design and re search Con struc tion Sales General ad minis tration and man age ment 1,836 1,683 1,233 1,181 2,477 2,241 Opera Con Teach tion sulting ing Number Older engineers:1 Gross number reporting___ ____ 24.822 Number reporting earnings. _- _ 23, 419 Engineers born 1907-9: 2 Gross number reporting_______ 5,201 Number reporting earnings. . . 5,068 Engineers born 1910-14:2 Gross number reporting______ 4,078 3,909 Number reporting earnings____ 6,425 6,151 6,070 5,847 4,942 1,859 4, 703 # 1,613 1, 521 1,488 1,349 1,312 1,655 1,613 159 156 147 141 168 163 202 195 1,104 1, 067 817 798 1,676 1,601 128 117 87 76 112 105 154 145 93 96 87 96 97 94 90 97 94 Percentage Older engineers___________________ Engineers born 1907-9_____________ Engineers born 1910-14____________ 94 97 96 96 98 97 96 97 98 95 97 96 87 98 91 1 Includes both graduates and “ other” engineers who reported they were professionally active prior to 1930; all tabulated on year-of-birth basis. 2 Includes both graduates and “ other” engineers who reported they were professionally active in the year shown; all tabulated on year-of-birth basis. The data on rates of earnings are tabulated without regard to age, except for a break-down as between those engineers who were profes sionally active prior to 1930 and those who entered the profession in 1930 or later years. Among both groups the largest proportions were in design and research, construction, and operation. However, among the older group 10 percent were in general administration and management, about 7.5 percent in teaching and consulting, and 5 percent in sales, while among the younger groups the proportions are 4 percent in general administration, 3 percent in sales and consulting, M O N TH LY EARNINGS OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS, 1 9 2 9 - 3 4 197 and 1.5 percent in teaching. It seems probable that the§e differences between the younger and older groups similarly exist within the older group. T a b l e 84 .— C o m p a riso n o f 5 levels o f m on th ly en gin eerin g ea rnings at end o f 1 9 8 4 o f all older 1 en gineers reporting typ e o f en gin eerin g w ork , by p r ofessio n a l class Monthly earnings in dollars by type of engineering work Percentage of professional class at specified income level 10 percent earned more than: Chemical and ceramic_________________ Civil, agricultural, and architectural ___ Electrical__________________ _________ Mechanical and industrial_____________ Mining and metallurgical___ - _________ 25 percent earned more than: Chemical and c e r a m i c . ___ _______ Civil, agricultural, and architectural____ Electrical_____________________________ Mechanical and industrial________ ____ Mining and metallurgical___ ___________ 50 percent earned more than: Chemical and ceramic_________________ Civil, agricultural, and architectural____ Electrical_________________________ Mechanical and industrial __ ____ . __ Mining and metallurgical______________ 75 percent earned more than: Chemical and ceramic___ _ _ _ Civil, agricultural, and architectural____ Electrical_______________________ _____ Mechanical and industrial____ ____ ____ Mining and metallurgical. _____________ 90 percent earned more than: Chemical and ceramic____________ _ Civil, agricultural, and architectural____ Electrical _________ . . . . _____ Mechanical and industrial_____________ Mining and metallurgical______________ Design Con and struc research tion Opera Con Teach tion sulting ing Sales General admin istra tion and man age ment 577 365 509 463 492 (2) 352 392 437 (3) 512 406 432 485 515 (3) 540 541 611 692 (2) 478 438 494 532 592 484 467 496 (2) 418 278 353 329 376 00 271 295 314 291 371 304 296 333 394 516 361 387 395 484 (2) 363 335 369 391 400 330 329 355 00 699 426 504 496 618 285 218 245 228 262 213 211 215 228 220 253 226 204 235 260 345 260 235 242 314 320 274 248 282 310 307 255 251 254 270 483 312 359 324 393 203 169 190 167 193 (2) 164 166 169 152 175 176 150 171 174 223 188 177 167 219 (2) 216 201 211 238 217 195 188 192 00 310 225 251 222 283 151 140 146 132 152 (2) 141 132 130 (3) 136 141 116 129 140 (3) 140 130 125 154 (2) 176 154 165 187 144 145 135 143 (2) (3) 587 734 741 1,028 (3) 171 162 158 181 1 Includes both graduate and “ other” engineers who reported they were professionally active prior to 1930; all tabulated on year-of-birth basis. 2 Fewer than 50 persons reported. 3 Fewer than 100 persons reported. The purpose of table 84 is to show the rates of earnings in 1934 of engineers with 5 years or more of experience in various types of work. In this comparison the engineers in general administration and management were, without any important exception, the best-paid group.18 On the average, engineers engaged in general administration make from half again to twice as much as those engaged in design, construction, or operation. Thus, at the median-earnings level the range for chemical and ceramic engineers who reported monthly earn ings was from $213 for construction 19 and $253 in operation to $483 13 The contrast between general administration and design, construction, or operation would be height ened if the averages were diluted by the earnings of younger engineers. 19 There were less than 50 chemical engineers engaged in construction. It is doubtful that the average is of any special significance. 2 8 5 2 0 8 ° — 4 1 --------1 4 198 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 -3 4 for general administration and management. A t this same earnings level the corresponding figures for the upper and lower extremes in the case of mechanical and industrial engineers were $228 and $324, or a range of $96. Consulting,20 teaching, and sales in all instances averaged less than administration and generally averaged more than design, construction and operation. In the case of electrical engineering, the average rate in design and research was $10 higher than in consulting and a few dollars less than in teaching and sales; all of these four classes of work were substantially above construction and operation. The average rate for teaching was generally higher than for sales and consulting, a relationship that held also as regards the earnings of the lowest 10 and 25 percent. A t the level of earnings of the upper 10 and 25 percent, consulting yielded more than sales and teaching. In all professional groups, except electrical engineering, higher rates were paid in design and research and in operation than in construction. Among electrical engineers the highest-paid 10 percent engaged in operation also received more than the highest 10 percent in construc tion, but at the lower earnings levels construction paid more. In the case of civil engineers and mechanical engineers, there was relatively little difference in average rates of pay for these three functions. For example, at the median-earnings level, civil engineers engaged in con struction received $211 a month, while members of this same profes sional class engaged in design and research and in operation received, respectively, $218 and $226 a month. Furthermore, mining engineers averaged nearly the same in design and research as in operation. In the case of both chemical and ceramic engineers and electrical engi neers, those engaged in design and research averaged more than those engaged in operation, and at the higher levels of earnings the differ ences between them were even more marked. In regard to differences in earnings within each type of work, it will again be noted that, except for construction, chemical and ceramic engineers, and mining and metallurgical engineers had the advantage. Thus, the former professional class reported median monthly earnings of $285 for design and research; the latter received $262 a month. The range in monthly earnings for the three other professional classes was from $218 to $228. Due to the variations in spread, these differences in earnings became accentuated at the two higher-earnings levels. For example, while mining and metallurgical engineers reported median monthly earnings of $393 for general administration and management, one-quarter re ceived not less than $618 a month and one-tenth not less than $1,028 a month. B y contrast, the corresponding figures for civil engineers 20 In the present table, “ consulting’’ includes reports from independent consultants and from employees of private firms whose function is to act as consultants. MONTHLY EARNINGS OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS, 19 2 9 -3 4 199 engaged in the same type of work were $312, $426, and $587 a month. Although the spread in earnings for consulting was less than that noted for general administration and management, it was relatively greater than that which occurred in any of the other types of work. The smallest spread occurred in the earnings reported for construc tion. Thus, electrical engineers in this field had median monthly earnings of $215, but at the upper 10-percent earnings level they were only $392. T a b l e 8 5 . — Comparison of medians of monthly engineering earnings at end 1934 of all younger1 engineers reporting type of engineering work, hy professional class Monthly earnings in dollars by type of engineering work Professional class Engineers born 1907-9: Chemical and ceramic____ _ __ ______ Civil, agricultural, and architectural____ Electrical_____________________________ Mechanical and industrial _ _______ Mining and metallurgical._ __________ Engineers born 1910-14: Chemical and ceramic - ______ _______ Civil, agricultural, and architectural____ Electrical____________________ ___ Mechanical and industrial _ ______ Mining and metallurgical... __ _______ General admin istra Sales tion and man age ment Design and re search Con struc tion 152 146 146 134 145 141 143 138 130 143 134 145 134 130 133 150 144 119 133 135 130 143 145 158 (2) 167 144 140 149 (2) 160 156 143 138 (2) 121 125 114 112 113 115 124 105 118 118 112 126 108 110 112 125 121 117 112 (2) (2) 110 113 113 (2) (2) (2) 108 108 (2) (2) 136 129 110 (2) Opera Con Teach tion sulting ing 1Includes both graduate and “ other” engineers who entered the profession during the years 1930-32 and 1933-34; all tabulated on year-of-birth basis. 2 Fewer than 10 persons reported. Although the preceding analysis does evidence a somewhat steep gradation in earnings by type of work for each professional class, it should again be emphasized that these should be considered in relation to the earnings opportunities within each of the types of work reported. Obviously, the possibilities in general administration and management were very small. They were also relatively smaller for teaching and consulting. On the other hand, in the four other types of work shown, the numbers of opportunities available were relatively much greater. In addition to the numbers of available opportunities in each type of work, the effects of age and experience should also be borne in mind. The influence of the last two factors is made evident by con sidering the median-earnings data for two younger groups of engineers presented in table 85. These show that in all types of engineering work younger engineers start with practically the same level of earn ings. 200 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS----ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 192 9 -3 4 Earnings by Geographical Division In the preceding analyses of monthly engineering earnings the data were dealt with on a national basis. Consideration will now be given to determine what variations obtained in the rates of monthly com pensation received by engineers located in different geographical divisions throughout the country. For these purposes the only data compiled on a regional basis were those reported by o ld e r21 graduate and “ other” or nongraduate engineers in the three major professional classes of civil,22 electrical, T a b l e 86.— Number of older graduate and “ other” engineers reporting monthly engineering earnings in 1929, 1982, and 1984, by region [Without regard to kind of engineering employment reported] Percentage re porting earnings Number reporting Graduate engineers “ Other” engineers Professional class by region Earnings Earnings Edu Edu ca ca tion 1929 1932 1934 tion 1929 1932 1934 Grad “ Other” uate engi engi neers neers 1929 1929 C ivil, ag ricu ltu ra l, and architectural United States_____ ______ _______ 10,318 9,064 8, 216 8,593 4,341 3,856 3,500 3,691 659 601 643 290 259 238 New England_______________ 777 247 951 846 736 761 Middle Atlantic_____________ 2,389 2,081 1,810 1, 822 279 283 313 273 67 61 61 61 District of C olum bia_______ 484 566 415 440 East North Central _______ 1,761 1,536 1,360 1,409 712 716 659 405 333 848 356 South Atlantic _ 350 302 341 269 301 452 476 480 635 979 1,020 1,161 1,032 546 473 439 480 1,647 1,510 1,374 1,443 87.8 84.8 87.1 89.1 87.2 84.4 88.8 89.3 89.0 91.0 85.5 87.9 88 135 455 275 897 82 128 436 255 816 86 138 455 289 864 88.6 89.0 88.9 86.6 91.7 90.7 84.4 91.4 86.5 90.7 United States___________ ______ 5,184 4,406 4,060 4,003 1,285 1,098 342 341 New England.. . . . . . . ___ 431 356 115 89 444 384 Middle Atlantic .. ________ 1,961 1, 711 1,604 1,562 95 75 71 75 25 22 District of Columbia________ 897 809 793 279 East North Central ..............- 1,050 246 252 376 287 255 87 77 South Atlantic_____________ 998 76 343 21 219 72 980 75 332 23 215 71 85.0 82.6 87.3 78.9 85.4 76.3 85.4 77.4 86.5 88.0 88.2 88.5 19 32 67 35 114 18 31 66 39 110 88.7 87.4 82.8 83.9 85.5 77.8 82.5 83.5 78.0 87.2 United States___________________ 6,599 5,539 4,492 5,105 2,407 2,029 1, 773 1,882 New England_______________ 434 597 483 450 226 187 170 173 Middle Atlantic .. ............ 2,435 2,068 1,809 1,837 604 838 705 649 District of Columbia_______ 115 106 101 103 29 26 26 26 East North Central ________ 1, 558 1, 316 1,160 1,216 668 502 586 539 South Atlantic______________ 383 497 347 357 131 104 99 100 East South Central___ _____ 142 119 121 113 49 36 31 33 West South Central_________ 214 253 206 214 63 50 47 46 West North Central_________ 382 321 297 308 143 115 111 106 Mountain_____________ _____ 115 112 104 99 48 42 34 39 505 417 376 395 212 Pacific_________________ ____ 178 154 166 83.9 80.9 84.9 92.2 84.5 77.1 83.8 84.6 84.0 97.4 82.6 84.3 82.7 84.1 89.7 87.7 79.4 73.5 79.4 80.4 87.5 84.0 East South Central _______ West South Central_________ West North Central... ------M oun tain .___ ___________ Pacific______ ____ _____ _____ 97 160 498 318 989 E lectrica l East South Central _. ______ West South Central............... West North Central_________ Mountain__________________ Pacific____________________ _ 115 167 412 137 440 102 146 341 115 376 94 132 312 102 339 96 136 305 100 343 27 40 85 50 133 21 33 71 39 116 M e ch a n ica l and in d u stria l 21 Those engineers who reported they were professionally active prior to 1930. 22 Also includes agricultural and architectural engineers. MONTHLY EARNINGS OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS, 192 9 -3 4 201 and m echanical23 engineering. The figures in table 86 show that reports on earnings were furnished by more than 300 graduate civil engineers in each of the 10 geographical divisions for 1929. The sample of mechanical and electrical engineers is smaller, but for virtually any division at least 100 reports are available. In general, there were reports on income from about five-sixths of the engineers, though the percentage of returns from New England and the South Atlantic States is persistently slightly below the average. A t this point it is pertinent to note that since the regional data were compiled without regard to employment status reported, the base of reference for the percentages of returns is the type of educa tion reported and not the kind of engineering work engaged in. The choice of this particular base for 1929, however, is warranted. First, in that year the number of unemployed engineers was less than 1 percent; second, even if allowance had been made for those men engaged in nonengineering work, the general relationships for the percentages shown would not be vitally affected. The adequacy of the regional data can, however, be gauged from the data presented in the ensuing discussion of earnings by size of city. These earnings are shown related to men engaged in engineering work and range from 88.7 percent for men employed in Cincinnati, Ohio, to 94.8 percent for Newark, New Jersey. The monthly rates of compensation reported from engineering work of graduates and “ other” or nongraduate engineers in these three professional classes are presented in table 87 without regard to age. In 1929 there were persistent differences in the average rates of pay of three types of engineering. Graduate mechanical engineers in 1929 averaged higher than electrical or civil engineers in all divisions, except in the District of Columbia. The spread within the regions differed substantially, however. Thus, among the graduates the greatest ranges were $46, which occurred in the New England area, and $56 in both the East North Central and West South Central divisions. The smallest ranges, namely $8 and $11, occurred, respec tively, m the Pacific and Mountain regions. Within the other five regions the extremes in the median earnings varied from $22 in the Middle Atlantic division to $36 in the East South Central States. In all regions except New England, electrical engineers earned less than civil engineers. In the Mountain States and the Pacific States there was an over-all spread of only about $10 among the three classes. In three other regions—New England, South Atlantic, and East South Central States— the difference between graduate civil and electrical engineers was less than $10. 23 Also includes industrial engineers. 202 E M P LO YM E N T, EARNINGS---- ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 - 3 4 T a b l e 87.— Comparison of median monthly engineering earnings in 1929, 1932, and 1934 of all older graduates1 and “ other” engineers2 reporting, by region [Without regard to kind of engineering employment reported] fl ll if Region .a 12 Ti SS rrt T2 II flS -re 5S O Older graduate engineers 1 New England____________________ Middle Atlantic_____ ____ _____ District of Columbia__ _ _______ East North Central----- . . . ----------South Atlantic----- . ------ ----------- $271 318 316 307 266 $280 297 291 270 261 $317 319 293 326 284 $238 275 308 250 227 $262 268 277 244 238 $292 274 276 270 248 $222 238 300 230 199 $266 269 239 242 231 $276 254 273 254 242 East South Central_________ _____ West South Central__________ . . . West North Central______________ Mountain. ___ ________________ . Pacific_________________________ - 259 290 263 245 275 256 253 249 239 269 292 309 276 250 277 223 263 233 226 240 227 223 227 222 246 241 270 235 225 240 219 238 220 225 237 221 209 224 231 239 239 259 218 227 227 Older “ other" engineers 2 New England__________________ . Middle Atlantic___________ ____ District of Columbia. ______ ____ East North Central___ . . . ... South Atlantic___________________ $238 286 294 276 254 $269 295 360 279 249 $305 329 300 326 323 $221 244 273 223 216 $251 255 268 233 209 $264 271 250 266 270 $210 209 258 201 197 $235 238 237 225 209 $246 236 274 235 274 East South Central_____ _____ . . . ______ . . . West South Central. West North Central... ___ _____ Mountain. . . . _. _ _________ . P acific..----------------- ------------ . . . 246 294 228 217 259 245 238 258 247 257 344 308 299 256 296 206 257 210 192 227 190 226 256 233 233 273 238 240 207 254 207 233 190 185 218 200 228 240 237 224 254 225 227 190 230 Percentage income of “ other" engineers formed of that of graduate engineers New England___ . _ _________ . Middle Atlantic__________________ District of Columbia________ _____ East North Central___________ . . . South Atlantic____ _________ . . . 88 90 93 90 96 96 99 124 103 95 96 103 102 100 114 93 89 89 89 95 96 95 97 95 88 90 99 91 99 109 95 88 86 87 99 88 88 99 93 90 89 93 100 93 113 East South Central___________ . . West South Central. ____ _____ West North Central... _________ Mountain. ----------- ---------------Pacific---------------------------------------- 95 101 87 89 94 96 94 104 103 96 118 100 108 102 107 92 98 90 85 95 84 101 113 105 95 113 88 102 92 106 95 98 86 82 92 90 109 #107 103 94 106 87 104 84 101 1Includes all postgraduates, nonengineering graduates, and first-degree engineering graduates who re ported they were professionally active prior tol930. 2Includes all engineers with college course incomplete, and those with noncollegiate technical school and secondary-school education. Between 1929 and 1934 the average rates of graduate electrical engineers fell less than those of civil engineers. In only two regions— District of Columbia and the West North Central States— did elec trical engineers average less than the two other professional groups. In the M iddle Atlantic States they averaged more than mechanical engineers, as was also the case in three regions— West North Central, M O N TH LY EARNINGS' OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS, 1 9 2 9 - 3 4 203 Mountain, and Pacific States— where earnings in the various pro fessional groups were all more or less alike. The differences in rates as among the various regions are not consistent from one group to the next, nor from*one year to another. However, the Middle Atlantic States and the District of Columbia appear in general to be slightly above New England and the East North Central States. This is especially the case among civil engi neers. These four regions are generally above the Pacific States and the W est South Central States, both of which rank fairly high as regards earnings of civil engineers. Electrical engineers are as high in the Pacific States as in the East North Central; in 1934 especially, mechanical engineers in the West South Central States ranked high as regards average earnings. In general, the lowest average rates were reported from the Mountain States and the West North Central, though the differences between the averages in these regions, and those in the South Atlantic and East South Central States are not consistent. Earnings b y Sise o f C ity In addition to obtaining data by region, an analysis was also made to determine what effects size of city had upon the earnings oppor tunities of professional engineers. These data were, however, tabu lated only for the years 1929 and 1934 for 18 individual cities and groupings of 4 others by size of population. From the data in table 88 it will be noted that approximately 90 percent of the engineers reporting furnished their income data. The corresponding figures of earnings on an adjusted basis are shown in table 89. As regards average earnings in 1929 there was an extreme range among the cities with a population of 400,000 or more from about $280 per month for Los Angeles, Minneapolis, and St. Paul to $351 for Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh also had the highest average in 1934; the lowest average rates were in Milwaukee, Buffalo, and Cincinnati. The extreme differences in rates as among cities appear large, being equivalent in 1929 to $1,056 per year. But in general the averages seem to depend upon local conditions of employment. The largest of these cities do not have the highest average. Cities in one section of the country are not regularly higher than those in other sections. Rather, widely separated and dissimilar cities have often almost iden tical earnings. The order of the cities changed sharply from 1929 to 1934. 204 E M P LO YM E N T, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 - 3 4 T a b l e 8 8 .— Comparison of total number of engineers reporting engineering em ployment and total number reporting monthly engineering earnings in 1929 and 1934, by size of city [Figures adjusted as explained on p. 34 and without regard to kind of engineering employment reported] All engineers 1929 1934 City Percent Percent Total Total Total Total age age number reporting number reporting reporting reporting income reporting reporting income income income Total........................................................... 29,207 27,124 92.9 31,846 29,806 93.6 New York___....... ............ ......................... Chicago.......... ........................... ................ Philadelphia-------- ------------------------------Detroit_______________________________ Los Angeles. ______________ _____ ____ 2,977 1, 395 636 485 979 2,744 1,291 586 433 921 92.2 92.5 92.1 89.3 94.1 2,557 1,317 660 522 983 2,362 1,214 607 475 915 92.4 92.2 92.0 91.0 93.1 Cleveland------------- -------------------------- St. Louis______________________________ Baltimore_____ ______________ ______ Boston-----------------------------------------------Minneapolis and St. Paul______________ 454 340 201 351 503 409 317 178 329 462 90.1 93.2 88.6 93.7 91.8 518 388 236 371 554 467 366 210 347 514 90.2 94.3 89.0 93.5 92.8 Pittsburgh.......... ......................................... San Francisco..................................... ........ Milwaukee---------------- --------- ---------------Buffalo........................................................ Washington------------------------- ------------ _ 467 513 289 118 644 435 478 267 108 600 93.1 93.2 92.4 91.5 93.2 462 535 307 158 718 428 501 282 148 676 92.6 93.6 91.9 93.7 94.2 New Orleans__________________________ Cincinnati------ ------------------------------------Newark_______________________________ Population 100,000 to 400,000____________ Population 50,000 to 100,000_____________ 140 222 191 5,161 2,613 129 197 181 4,785 2,437 92.1 88.7 94.8 92.7 93.3 168 273 189 5,878 2,914 156 241 176 5,496 2, 757 92.9 88.3 93.1 93.5 94.6 Population 10,000 to 50,000._ . . . ----------Population under 10,000________________ 4,962 5, 566 4,639 5,198 93.5 93.4 5, 652 6, 486 5. 344 6,124 94.6 94.4 There does appear to be some relationship between city size and average rates. None of the 18 cities of 400,000 or more in 1934 and only two in 1929 had average earnings materially lower than the average in the smaller cities. By and large, the cities of 400,000 or more appeared to pay $200 to $250 more per year than cities of 50,000 to 400,000. These in turn averaged about $100 more than cities of 10,000 to 50,000; and these, about $200 more than was paid in communities of less than 10,000. A situation similar to that noted for average earnings reported also occurred at the two lower earnings levels. But the concentration of opportunities for higher earnings in the larger cities is fairly well defined at the upper 25-percent level and more so at the upper 10-percent earnings level. Thus, the highest earnings reported in 1929 at the upper 10-percent level were those of engineers in the city of Phila delphia, who reported not less than $765 per month. These earnings were only slightly higher than those reported for Boston. In Cleve land and New York 10 percent of the engineers received not less than $755 and $750 per month. Next in order came Detroit, Chicago, Pittsburgh, and Buffalo, where earnings at the upper 10-percent level ranged from $704 to $729 per month. MONTHLY EARNINGS' OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS, 1 9 2 9 -3 4 T able 205 89 .— Comparison of 5 levels of monthly engineering earnings in 1929 and 1934 of all engineers 1 reporting engineering em ploym ent , by size of city [Figures adjusted as explained on p. 34 and without regard to kind of engineering employment reported] 75 percent 90 percent 1 | 25 percent 1929 income in dollars 1934 income in dollars 50 percent <x> ft *a• !> 90 percentj «CUD Percentage decrease 1929-34 10 percent 25 percent i 50 percent 10 percent j 90 percent 50 percent 75 percent 10 percentj C ity2 |25 percent Proportion with annual earnings of more than specified amount Philadelphia_____________________ Boston _____________________ Cleveland. ____________ ____ _ _ . New York______________________ D etroit........................................... - 765 761 755 750 729 488 482 504 488 486 329 317 335 320 341 233 220 242 238 257 178 167 187 187 195 509 563 511 613 500 357 349 346 395 363 238 248 230 253 249 165 167 155 171 169 123 118 119 124 130 33 26 32 18 31 27 28 31 19 25 28 22 31 21 27 29 24 36 28 34 31 29 36 34 33 Chicago............................—........... . Pittsburgh-...................................... B uffalo......................... ................... Baltimore..... ................. ......... ......... Cincinnati....... ................................ 721 713 704 676 653 488 498 480 445 434 326 351 329 299 308 240 271 223 223 228 188 209 174 163 159 518 511 482 503 420 352 388 310 333 304 237 269 215 228 214 159 193 143 147 145 121 130 114 110 107 28 28 32 26 36 28 22 35 25 30 27 23 35 24 31 34 29 36 34 36 36 38 34 33 33 Newark_____ ______ _____________ St. Louis.____ _________________ . Milwaukee____________ ________ New Orleans_____ ______ ____ ___ Population 100,000 to 400,000. .......... 652 634 615 615 602 435 458 426 427 410 308 319 293 305 287 218 228 219 222 214 154 171 161 145 163 459 487 429 432 436 320 353 321 323 310 228 228 216 225 216 158 160 145 157 152 119 116 108 124 117 30 23 30 30 28 26 23 25 24 24 26 29 26 26 25 28 30 34 29 29 23 32 33 14 28 Population 50,000 to 100,000.............. San Francisco.................................. . Washington, D. C _________ ______ Los Angeles______________________ Population 10,000 to 50,000.............. . 579 576 551 543 536 408 401 427 386 403 292 291 312 280 282 218 224 230 223 212 166 184 174 192 164 425 487 487 423 416 309 343 388 302 291 216 247 267 224 207 155 191 194 177 149 118 145 151 135 114 27 15 12 22 22 24 14 9 22 28 26 15 14 20 27 29 15 lfr 21 30 29 21 13 30 30 Population under 10,000____ _____ Minneapolis and St. Paul..... ........ 503 355 263 203 156 377 267 194 144 112 494 375 279 213 182 399 297 220 164 128 25 19 25 21 26 21 29 23 28 30 1Includes both graduates and “ other” engineers; all tabulated on year-of-birth basis. 2Arranged in ascending order of incomes reported at upper 10-percent level for 1929. In only three of the cities with 400,000 population or more did the upper 10 percent of the engineers earn less than was earned at this level ($602) in cities of 100,000 to 400,000. In cities with less than 10,000 population the upper 10 percent earned $503 or more in 1929. Similar differences obtained in 1934. Over the period 1929-34 the earnings at all income levels and for all cities declined. The average rates paid declined about equally from 1929 to 1934 in communities of different sizes. At the average earnings level the smallest declines were reported for the cities of San Francisco and Washington, D. C., in which the percentages of decrease were, respectively, 15 and 14. But for the remaining cities the decreases ranged from 20 percent in the case of Los Angeles to as high as 31 percent for the city of Cincinnati. In general, greater declines than those noted for average earnings occurred at the two lower earnings levels, while those for the two upper earnings levels were smaller. 206 EM P LO YM E N T, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 - 3 4 These data are also shown for two age groups in tables 90 and 91. For engineers born prior to 1907 and who were, therefore, profession ally active in 1929, the declines in earnings were practically the same at all five earnings levels. As for the younger engineers, it will be noted that there was almost no variation in their earnings by size of city. As between individual cities, there was a spread at the average level of approximately the same proportion as was noted in the aver ages for all engineers. T a b l e 90. — Comparison of 5 levels of monthly engineering earnings in 1929 and 1934 of all engineers 1 horn prior to 1907 reporting engineering em ploym ent , by size of city [Without regard to kind of engineering employment reported] 75 percent 90 percent 765 761 755 750 729 488 482 504 488 486 329 317 335 320 341 233 220 242 238 257 178 167 187 187 195 537 601 540 633 514 383 365 394 415 397 265 273 261 274 275 193 198 184 194 193 145 -3 0 141 -21 146 -2 8 141 -1 6 145 -2 9 -2 2 -2 4 -2 2 -1 5 -1 8 -1 9 -1 4 -2 2 -1 4 -1 9 -1 7 -1 0 -2 4 -1 8 -2 5 -1 9 -1 6 -2 2 -2 5 -2 6 Chicago. ......................... ........ Pittsburgh................................. __ Buffalo.-_ ____ ____________ . Baltimore____________________ Cincinnati___________________ . _ 721 713 704 676 653 488 498 480 445 434 326 351 329 299 308 240 271 223 223 228 188 209 174 163 159 544 520 517 531 435 374 401 364 360 327 258 286 250 254 245 185 210 191 191 179 141 -2 5 155 -2 7 141 -2 7 142 -21 126 -3 3 -2 3 -1 9 -2 4 -1 9 -2 5 -2 1 -1 9 -2 4 -1 5 -2 0 -2 3 -2 3 -1 4 -1 4 -2 1 -2 5 -2 6 -1 9 -1 3 -2 1 Newark. ................................... ... . St. Louis ----------------------------------Milwaukee____________ _ New Orleans____ _ _ _ -------------Population 100,000 to 400,000. _ 652 634 615 615 602 435 458 426 427 410 308 319 293 305 287 218 228 219 222 214 154 171 161 145 163 493 517 436 456 468 352 391 334 342 332 253 258 232 249 235 196 193 158 183 176 142 -2 4 142 -1 8 122 -2 9 147 -2 6 138 -2 2 -1 9 -1 5 -2 2 -2 0 -1 9 -1 8 -1 9 -21 -1 8 -1 8 -1 0 -1 5 -2 8 -1 8 -1 8 -8 -1 7 -2 4 +1 -1 5 579 408 292 218 Population 50,000 to 100,000. San Francisco- - — _ ----------------- 576 401 291 224 Washington, D. C ----------------- 551 427 312 230 Los Angeles_____ _ _ ----------------- 543 386 280 223 Population 10,000 to 50,000------------- 536 403 282 212 166 184 174 192 164 442 494 497 433 440 329 349 402 309 313 236 255 284 231 227 178 201 214 186 172 142 -2 4 152 -1 4 166 -1 0 146 -2 0 136 -1 8 -1 9 -1 3 -6 -2 0 -2 2 -1 9 -1 2 -9 -1 8 -2 0 -1 8 -1 0 -7 -1 7 -1 9 -1 4 -1 7 -5 -2 4 -1 7 i Philadelphia_____________ ______ Boston__ ____ ____ _____ _ Cleveland __________________ New York___________________ _. D etroit... ____________________ - I 50 percent 25 percent 90 percent Percentage increase or decrease, 1929-34 10 percent 75 percent 50 percent 25 percent 10 percent 90 percent 75 percent ! : 50 percent 10 percent City 2 25 percent Proportion with annual earnings of more than specified amount J 1929 income in dollars 1934 income in dollars Population under 10,000................ . Minneapolis and St. Paul..... ......... 503 355 263 203 156 408 290 216 161 131 -1 9 -1 8 -1 8 -2 1 -1 6 494 375 279 213 182 408 308 230 185 145 -1 7 -1 8 -1 8 -1 3 -2 0 1 Includes both graduates and “ other” engineers; aii tabulated on year-of-birth basis. 2Arranged in ascending order of incomes reported at upper 10-percent level for 1929. M O N TH LY EARNINGS OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS, 1 9 2 9 - 3 4 207 T a b l e 91. — Comparison of 5 levels of monthly engineering earnings in 1934 of all engineers 1 born 1907—14 reporting engineering em ploym ent , by size of city [Without regard to kind of engineering employment reported] Proportion with annual earnings of more than specified amount City 10 per cent 25 per cent 50 per cent 75 per cent 90 per cent 1934 income in dollars Philadelphia___________________________________ Boston________ _____________ _______ _______ Cleveland__________________ __________ ______ New York_____ ______ _ ____ Detroit________________________________________ 196 175 197 193 163 147 148 165 168 133 118 126 135 138 108 101 106 110 120 Chicago------------------- -------------------------------------Pittsburgh____ ______________________________ B uffalo_________________________ ____________ Baltimore______________ . . . __ _______ _ Cincinnati_________ ___________ ____ ____ _____ 187 (2) (2) (2) 192 156 145 154 138 152 130 124 129 115 125 108 108 105 98 105 Newark_______ _______ ____ _________ _____ St. Louis__________________________ __________ M ilwaukee____ _______________________________ New Orleans__________________________________ Population 100,000 to 400,000_____________ ______ (2) 158 157 132 158 154 127 132 113 128 130 100 103 95 105 106 128 145 155 134 126 106 112 127 111 103 129 126 106 105 (2) (2) (2) 184 181 Population 50,000 to 100,000_____________________ San F r a n c i s c o . ______________________________ Washington, D. C_____________________________ Los Angeles________________ _____ _______ — — Population 10,000 to 50,000______________________ (2) 210 179 177 151 169 177 154 151 Population under 10,000_____________ _____ _____ Minneapolis and St. Paul-. ____________________ 175 173 152 147 176 1 Includes both graduate and “ other” engineers; all tabulated on year-of-birth basis. 2 Fewer than 100 persons reported. 89 Ca) 88 89 96 89 (2) (2) (2) (2) (2) (2) 89 86 88 88 (2) 95 91 86 87 87 Chapter X Limitations of the Data for Prediction Purposes In the preceding analysis there has been presented a comprehensive picture of the activities of professional engineers, as well as the earnings derived from these activities. In regard to the latter it cannot be-too strongly emphasized that these data relate only to what engineers of various ages were earning in 1929, 1932, and 1934. Since there are no better data available, it is almost inevitable that the figures will be used to predict what young engineers may expect to earn 10 or 15 years hence. For that reason, it is important to emphasize the severe limitations which attach to the data in this connection. The first point— that the general level of engineering income fluc tuates from year to year— needs merely to be mentioned in passing. Therefore, the absolute level of incomes for engineers with any given amount of experience cannot be forecast for any future year. The chief danger to be guarded against is the assumption that the income relationships for 1934 will hold in some future year. A cautious use of such information may add to the value of the advice of those who are directing young men into the various fields of speciali zation. A careless assumption that this same relationship will hold 20 years hence for future graduates will make the resulting advice dangerous. The tabulations show merely the facts of the income distribution in 1934 or some other particular year. For example, chemical and ceramic engineers 20 years after graduation averaged $4,100 and onequarter of such engineers earned more than $6,000. On the other hand, civil engineers 20 years after graduation averaged $3,100 and the best-paid quarter averaged only $4,100 or more. It is evident, therefore, that men graduating from college in 1914 advanced on the whole to higher levels of income if their college work had been in the field of chemical or ceramic engineering than if it had been in the field of civil engineering. This much is fact. B ut it must not be concluded from these data on income alone that it is wise to encourage men entering college in 1940 to specialize in chemical and ceramic engineering and to discourage their entering the field of civil engineering. Such advice will be sound only if the conditions surrounding the two fields of engineering and their pros pects for the next 20 years are similar to the conditions of 1914 to 208 LIMITATIONS OF DATA FOR PREDICTION PURPOSES 209 1934. Years of experience are themselves a factor in determining what kind of engineers are available. It is quite possible that there may be a relative scarcity of engineers with a given type of academic background and with 20 years of experience, while at the same time the supply of younger engineers with that same type of formal educa tion m ay have become excessive. It is quite easy to see that a special scarcity value m ay have attached in 1934 to chemical engineers that did not accrue to civil engineers graduating in 1914. There was a tremendous expansion of the chemical industry in the United States during and following the 1914-18 W orld War. It is a matter of com mon knowledge that such enterprises had the greatest difficulty in finding sufficient men with the requisite education and experience. On the other hand, while there are more civil engineers and more jobs for civil engineers than in 1914, a decrease in certain types of civil engineering work— as, for example, the construction of new railroads— has acted to restrain the development of relative scarcity values such as may have attached to chemical engineers. At the same time it is impossible to make a comparison of the earn ings of the younger engineers in the several professional classes and to conclude that the relationship between the professional groups will hold when they have had 20 years’ experience. Thus in 1934 we find that chemical and ceramic engineers who graduated in 1932 averaged $1,286, whereas civil and mechanical engineers averaged $1,384. The statistics do not preclude the possibility that there is a longer period of apprenticeship for some types of engineering work than for others and that, following such a period of apprenticeship, there may be a more rapid advancement in the one line than in the other, ultimately to a higher level of income. Conclusions as to the relative desirability of entering one type of engineering rather than another should be drawn only by those with an intimate acquaintance with all fields of engineering. Available statistics are probably a less satisfactory basis for advice than would be the pooled nonstatistical judgments of a number of people with a wide knowledge of the engineering profession and its opportunities. The statistical materials of this study can be used safely in projection only to fortify the judgments and forecasts of such individuals. To those who know not only the present situation of the various profes sional groups but also the changing background of those professions over the past few decades, the income data will have particular signifi cance. One who knows how the supply of and demand for particular types of engineering training has changed can make allowances and may attempt to estimate the most probable changes in future rela tionships. He will be helped to appraise the state of the current market for engineering services, by the earlier chapters of this report, 210 E M P LO YM E N T, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 - 3 4 in which has been indicated the extent to which recent engineering graduates have been able to find engineering jobs. The statistics which are presented here have a value that varies with the richness of the background of the user. Educational advisers and directors are performing specialized work and by the very nature of their work must guess what the future holds in store for various professions. Their prognosis becomes better if it is based on an extensive and accurate knowledge of existing conditions. This basis of knowledge the Bureau supplies on a larger scale than previously available. The Bureau has attempted as comprehensive an analysis of recently existing relationships as its resources permit, and will welcome further critical analysis from any source of the detailed materials. The Bureau has carefully refrained from describing differences in the average incomes of graduate and nongraduate engineers as a measure of the value of a completed college course in engineering. From the data in hand, it is impossible to determine whether the differences are due to the fact that given individuals have received a college education or to other factors. It is possible that the differ ences in income arise from an initial process of selection. It is also possible that a prejudice in favor of the college graduate affords him better opportunities to acquire valuable experience than are given to the noncollege graduate. In such case, the advantages would arise not from formal education which the man had received but from his status as a college graduate. It is a matter of common belief that college training has economic value for the prospective engineer. The figures in this study support this belief but cannot be taken as conclusive proof. Rather more conclusively they prove the great importance of other factors in addition to formal education. If formal education is an asset, the young graduate engineer should advance more rapidly than the non graduate of corresponding age. This does happen. The data thus furnish supporting evidence as to the value of a formal education. But were formal education an all-important element in determining income in these early years, there should come a point at which no further relative spread developed between the average earnings of college graduates and nongraduates. The facts show that the spread does increase. The difference is greater both in absolute terms and in relative terms after 30 or 40 years of experience than it is after 10 or 15 years of experience. This increased spread not only is noted with reference to the average of the two classes but applies at the five levels that have been studied. It was found not only in 1929 but also in 1932 and 1934. It can hardly be argued that the scholastic background of engineers who entered the profession in 1900 is a controlling factor with refer- LIMITATIONS OF DATA FOR PREDICTION PURPOSES 211 ence to their earnings in 1929 and 1934. Certainly, the value of their services is no longer primarily dependent upon the odds and ends of information which they acquired in college, although it is possible that habits of thinking and study which the engineer received in his college days constitute a permanent legacy. B y and large the factors controlling the value of a man’s engineering services after 30 years or more of experience must be primarily his native capacity and the training which he has received on the various jobs that he has performed. As regards native capacity, there is reason to believe that, on the average, better material will be found among college graduates than among those who failed to complete a college course. There are of course many individuals who are unable to complete an engineering course for financial reasons. There are also many individuals of limited capacity who receive degrees. But there is also a wholesale process of weeding out that goes on in the engineering schools. Thus even the differences in income shown in the earliest years of exper ience may reflect differences in capacity rather than differences arising from the value of the formal training. Whether ability is more important than the differences in the kinds of experience that are open to the college graduate and the nongradu ate, it is impossible to tell. It is a matter of common knowledge that for a number of years college education has been thought of as a normal prerequisite to engineering work. A number of large em ployers of engineers deliberately differentiate between the college graduate and the nongraduate, offering the young engineer with a college education opportunities for training on the job which either are not available to the nongraduate or are open to him after special consideration rather than as a matter of routine. It must be noted that this latter type of advantage will tend increasingly to accrue to the status of the graduate as opposed to the nongraduate. In this sense status is gained by graduation, to some extent no longer with regard to the value of the formal education as such. The more common a college education becomes, and the more widespread the assumption of a difference in capacity between the college graduate and the nongraduate becomes, the more certain it is that employers will discriminate in favor of the college graduate. Such discrimination means that the college graduate will generally be given more favorable opportunities for training on the job than the nongraduate of equal capacity. It is known, however, that many large employers of young engi neers have already developed a highly selective process of employ ment in interviewing candidates from engineering colleges. They may assume that in general college graduates are more promising material than nongraduates. They no longer recognize the mere fact 212 E M P LO YM E N T, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 - 3 4 of graduation as evidence of employability and give special status only to those who graduate with a standing substantially better than the average of the class. Thus the advantage of status which may have accrued a number of years ago through the fact of college grad uation alone now accrues in equal measure only to graduation with exceptional standing. The candidate for a position in the engineering profession should study carefully the tables not only for average earnings but also for the upper and lower 10 and 25 percent of the engineers. Table 54 of chapter V III shows clearly that a young man is well advised to enter the profession after successfully completing a period of formal edu cation beyond the high-school level. The earlier chapter on educa tion indicated that college training was coming to be a prerequisite for entrance to the profession. But it is unwise to rely heavily on the value of a college education per se. The present study gives conclusive demonstration of differences of income which generally reflect different degrees of capacity. The lot of the college graduate m ay be somewhat easier than that of the nongraduate. But even in 1929 the lowest 10 percent of the college graduates in civil engineering were earning less than $2,500 after 10 years of experience, with $2,700 after 20 years of experience. These figures are to be compared with the average earnings of $3,600 and $4,400 for these respective groups. On the other hand, the upper 10 percent of the civil engineers whose college course was incomplete earned $5,200 or more after 10 years of experience and $7,600 or more after 20 years of experience. The upper 10 percent of the engineers with only a secondary-school education similarly showed earnings substantially above those of the average college graduate. In other words, graduation from an engineering school is no guaranty of a satisfactory income, while there is still apparently an opportunity for a man of outstanding capacity to secure far better than an average engineering income even though he has not attended college. The most significant differences in income revealed by the present survey are not the differences in the average income received by individuals who have received a college degree and those who have not. Nor are they the differences as between individuals who have entered one professional class rather than another. These differences on the whole are moderate, though they are large enough to prove the desirability of choosing well both the field of endeavor and the type of training best adapted to advancement in that field. The most striking differences are those which exist within each profession and within each group classified on the basis of its educational background. One out of 10 of the engineers in each such group secured an income several times as great as the average for the group as a whole. At least one out of 10 at the bottom of each such group, whether a college LIMITATIONS OF DATA FOR PREDICTION PURPOSES 213 graduate or not, whether a chemical engineer or a civil engineer, whether a man with many years of service or freshly out of college, is hardly to be distinguished as regards income from a skilled wage earner. It is impossible to forecast from these data what the future holds in store for the high-school boy who must be advised as to what type of training will be most advantageous. But it may be pointed out that in 1929 the average income of graduate engineers with 10 years' experience ranged from $3,600 to $4,600 in the various professional classes. In 1929 only 6.4 percent of the incomes in the United States exceeded $4,000. Furthermore, engineering is a profession in which earning capacity advances and is sustained until late in life. But if in these respects the profession appears attractive on the average, its rewards are not particularly attractive to the poorer or less fortunate engineers. Even in 1929 the lowest-paid 10 percent of the engineers could hope for no more than $2,500 to $3,000, though they might stay in the profession for 40 years. In 1934, exposed as the profession was to the risks of unemployment, the lowest-paid 10 percent of the en gineers with less than 5 years' experience after graduation earned less than $1,000. Even with 10 to 30 years' experience they earned no more than $1,000 to $1,500. Judged from the basis of money income, there can be no question but that the best of a group of skilled wage earners are in a better economic position than those who struggle to maintain a position on the fringes of the engineering profession. 285208° 41- 15 Appendix A Facsimile of Questionnaire STRICTLT CONFIDENTIAL U . S . DEPARTMENT OF LABOR BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS W A S H IN G T O N SURVEY OF THE ENGINEERING PROFESSION Undertaken at tha Request of the American Engineering Council 1. STATE......... .................................. N a m e .......................................................... .......................................... 2. CITY ............................................... B usiness 3. Y (Optional. Requested only to aid editing In case of error) ear of birth 4. A re yo u m ar r ie d ? Y e3 ....... N o ............. 5. E ducation : (Detach Here and Beturn Questionnaire Only) address , if a n t ............................................................. (Otherwise home address) N um ber of dependents . Nam* or iNSTiTtmoN a. Secondary schools.......... (High or preparatory) (Including wife, If married) CorrESZ TAKIN (e. g. clvU engineering, liberal arts, etc.) -(D - 6. Noncollegiatetechnicalschools.(2). (Day or evening, beyond secondary schools) e. University or college_ -(3). d. Graduate work.—............ .......(4). 6. The Bureau is tracing the change in engineering opportunities since 1929. Please indicate your major occupation by using a check in the appropriate space to indicate E m ploym ent: an affirmative answer to describe your status at the END of each of the THREE years. a. Were you engaged in engineering in a private firm or organization?_______________ ____ (1). (Excluding private consulting work and teaching) b. Were you engaged in engineering on private consulting work? (1) As independent consultant.................................. .......... ....... ...................... .......... .......(2). (2) As employee of private consulting firm.......................................................................(3). c. Were you engaged in engineering as an employee of a public authority (excluding work relief) ? (1) Federal Government............ ......................... ........................... ..................................._(4). (2) State Government...........................................................................................................(5). (3) County Government.......... ................................................... . ...................................__.(6). (4) Municipal Government....................................... .......................................................... (7). (5) Other public authority (please specify)............ ....................... ................................... (8). d. Were you teaching engineering subjects as a member of an engineering faculty?-.............(9). e. Were you employed on nonengineering work?........................ ...... ....... ................................ (10)(Indudlng teaching other than that indicated under (<f), but excluding direct relief or work relief) Specify nature of work....................................... ........................................... .... ..................... j. Were you on work relief!............................................................... ............... .......................... (11). (Specify relief agency and nature of work) g. Any other employment (please specify)................................................................................-(12). h. Were you wholly unemployed?...................... ........... ....................................................... (13). i. Were you on direct relief (excluding work relief)?................................................................ (14). 7. U nem ploym ent and r e l ie f (during 60 months from Jan. 1, 1930, to Dec. 31, 1934): a. Number of months totally unemployed...................(1)..................... If none please check here (Excluding months on work relief or C. W. A.) b. Number of months on work relief or C. W. A ...... (2)......... ........... c. Number of months on direct relief.......... ...............(3)...................... (Excluding months on work relief or C. W. A.) 214 If none please check here If none please check here 215 FACSIMILE OF QUESTIONNAIRE 8. E a r n e d incom e (please g ive data fo r each year): a. For year ending b. For year ending c. For year ending 9. H a v e From salaries or personal services in both engineering and nonengineering work Average monthly rate from engineering work for time actually employed December31, 1934.............(1).. December31, 1932__ (2).. December31, 1929__ (3).. you e v e r b e en a m em b er of a n eng in e e rin g or a llie d te c h n ic a l s o c ie t y ? Now a member Name of society Formerly a member National societies. State societies. Local societies. Answer questions 10, 11, 12, 13, and 14 only if you had an engineering job at the end of 1934 10. E m p l o y m e n t contract: a. Are you under contract for your position? (1) Y e s ....... N o ....... For what period?................... b. In the event of separation does your contract require a waiting period before taking similar work? (2) Y e s ........... N o ............ How many m onths?_____________ c. Have you the right to patent or to receive special compensation for inventions and improvements? (1) Made in the course of your work (3)................. ............... ........................................................... (2) N ot directly related to your work (4)............................................................................................ d. Have you pension privileges? (5)............... e. Are you under civil service? (6).... .......... 11. S o u r c e of a. ____ b.......... c .......... d. - ...... e ....... . j .......... g .......... h. ------ in f o r m a t io n (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (G) (7) (8) u sed to locate C on tributory............... presen t p o s i t io n N oncontributory.................. (please check media used): Engineering society. Private employment agency. United States Employment or Keemployment Service. Other public employment service (specify)..................... Personal contacts and recommendations. Newspapers. Technical journals. Any other medium. 12. At the end of 1934, in what industry, service, or zone of interest were you employed? Service, or Zone of Interest” on opposite page— Classification I.) (See “ Industry, 13. W hat principal function did you perform in that work? page— Classification II.) 14. What was your professional classification as an engineer? (Mechanical, civil, electrical, mining, metallurgical, chemical, marine, industrial (not otherwise classified), agricultural, military, naval architect, etc.) (Answer here, as "Public Utilities—Qas’’) (See “ Functional Classification” on opposite (Answer here, as "Operation—Testing” ) (Answer here, as "Chemical” ) ( 2) 216 E M P LO YM E N T, EARNINGS---- ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 - 3 4 CLASSIFICATION I INDUSTRY, SERVICE, OR ZONE OF INTEREST (to help in answering question 12) A. Construction such as— C. Public Utilities such a Electric light and power Gas Agriculture Airport Bridges Buildings Cable Radio Telegraph Telephone Highways Mapping Military Power Railroad Reclamation Refrigeration Regional planning Sewerage Surveying Tunnels Ventilation Waterways Waterworks General construction B. Extractive Industries such as— Coal Copper Iron and steel Gold and silver Lead and zinc Other metals Oil and gas Nonmetallic minerals D. Transportation Industries such a Steam railroad Electric railway Water-borne Automotive Aeronautical Pipeline E. Manufacturing Industries such as— Iron and Steel: Machinery, machine tools, vehicles, shipbuilding, aircraft, ordnance, etc. Electrical Manufacturing: Power equipment, transmission equip ment, motors, lighting, heating, in struments, appliances, etc. Nonferrous Metal Working: Copper and alloys, enamelware, etc. Chemical and Allied Industries: Charcoal and coke, explosives, paint and varnish, petroleum refineries and products, soap and other chemical products, paper and paper products, etc. Textiles, Clothing, Boot and Shoes: Yarn and cloth manufacture (cotton, wool, silk, rayon, and other fibers) printing and dyeing, garment manu, lecturing and other textile productsshoe factories, leather products, etc. Lumber and Furniture: Lumbering, sawing and planing mills, wood product manufactories, etc. Food, Drug, Beverage, and Tobacco In* dustries: Canning, flour milling, meat packing, sugar refining, other food products, distilleries, breweries, tobacco fac tories, etc. Clay, Glass, TOe, and Stone Industries: Brick, lime and cement, potteries, glass works, etc. F. Personal Service such as— Education Publications Professional and trade organizations Real estate Banking Insurance Wholesale and retail establishments G. Agriculture and Forestry. CLASSIFICATION II FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFICATION (to help in answering question 13) A. Design and Research. Including supervision and administration of Design or Research. Also Include here Exploration, etc. Also Include here Production, Maintenance, Testing, Chemical Analysis and Control, Inspection, etc. D. Consulting. B. Construction. Including supervision and administration of Construction. ' E. Teaching. C. Operation. Operation.*1 Including Investigation, Production, Valu ation, Appraisal, Arbitration, Testimony, etc. sion and administration of Including supervision and administration of Education, as Deans, Editors, etc. F. Sales. Including supervision and administration of Sales, G. General Administration and Man. agement. Including Financial Planning, Organization, Promotion, Efficiency, etc. Indicate this classification only it not prin cipally or directly supervising or ad ministering one of the other classifications listed above. ' 217 FACSIMILE OF QUESTIONNAIRE U. S. DEPARTMENT OF LABOR BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS W A S H IN G T O N Dear Sir: This survey of the engineering profession and the incidence of the depression on engineers is undertaken by the United States Bureau of Labor Statistics at the request of the American Engineering Council, in the hope that the information obtained will be of true service to engineers, and a guide to those who are preparing to enter the profession. The questionnaire has been prepared with the collaboration of leaders of your profession; the information requested is simple, quickly answered, and vital to the study. The third page is no formidable array of questions, but is a guide to your answers to questions twelve and thirteen. Please answer all questions with the detail requested. Your answers will be held in strictest confidence, avail able only to regular sworn employees of this Bureau, for tabu lating purposes alone. Your name need not be signed; though we request that it be, so that we may have the opportunity to cor respond with you about any apparent errors found in the sched ule. The enclosed return envelop requires no postage. Please reply promptly; no schedules can be used which are received after July 8. The Bureau of Labor Statistics and the societies of your profession will appreciate your cooperation in this venture. Sincerely yours. Commissioner o f Labor Statistics. (4) v. s. ••mauNT niMTiaa orrice U—3067 Appendix B T a b l e 1.-— A lloca tio n o f en gineers in m in o r p rofessio n a l classes 1 with allied m a jor p r ofessio n a l classes C o m b in e d w ith— Professional class reported Total i _________ 3.605 Administrative _ _ ________ ____ Aeronautical_ _____ _______ _ Automotive _ _____________ _____ _ Bridge _______ ___ _ _ _ _______ Combustion . _______ __________ 11 224 91 23 24 Commercial _ _ ____ ______ _ _ _ _ Communications __ _ ____ .. Construction - . __ ______ _______ Electro-chemical __ __ _______ ___ ____ 31 62 121 21 41 Forestry . __ _ _________ ____ Fuel " - _________ - __ ________________________________ Gas General engineering _ _____ 12 9 25 127 88 Geophysical _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Heating and ventilating.- _ _______ Highway _ _ _ _ ___________ _ _ ____ ______ Hydraulic Hydroelectric ____ ____________ 41 131 258 86 20 Total______ . ___________ Agricul tural Electrical : Mechan ical Civil 19 1,583 1,420 11 224 91 23 24 31 62 121 41 21 12 9 25 127 88 41 131 258 86 20 __________ _______ _ ________ ______ ____ _________ _______ ___ ___ ____________ ____ ___ _______ _______ 13 42 5 20 129 Military _ _ __ _________ __ Miscellaneous __ _________ Municipal _ ________ Naval Constr., arch___ ________ _ Ordnance _ _ _ _ _ ____ _______ 70 149 12 153 6 70 Petroleum _______ ______ Power __ __ ____________ Production __ ________ _____ __ Radio __ _ ________ _ _ Radio broadcast __ _ ________ _ _ 224 13 43 439 3 224 13 Irrigation Lighting Logging Lubrication Marine 583 ! 13 5 42 20 129 149 12 153 6 439 43 3 Radio tube _ _ __ ___________ _ Railroad _______ _ __ Railway, mechanical. _ _______ ______ __ Railway, electrical _ __________ ____ Refrigeration __ _ _ ________ ____ ______ 11 22 Research . _ _ _____ __ __________ __ Safety _ ______ ______ ____________ Sales engineering__ _____________ _______ Sanitary ___ _______________ __ _ Soil erosion _ . _ _ __________________ 52 16 42 142 2 Sound engineering. _ ________________ Structural _ _ ________________ __ Telephone _ ______ ______ ___________ Textile __ _ _ ______________________ Topographic _ __ _•_________________ 24 247 62 81 9 24 247 Valuation___________ _____ ____________ Welding______________________ _______ 45 13 45 22 11 3 3 5 5 62 52 16 2 42 142 9 62 62 81 13 1 The number of certain professional classes reported being so small, special analyses are not warranted. Hence, they have been combined with one or another of the major professional classes, as used for the general analyses of the data, to which they are most closely allied. 218 Appendix C T a b l e 1.— D istrib u tio n o f all en gineering graduates with course sam e as professio n a l class reported at end of 1934, by year o f graduation Professional class V 5 'g'3 ao 03U t-i bed Mechanic; Industrial Electrical I so n < Chemical 3u 3 g s 3o "E be aS i Graduating classes Total Ceramic Course taken Total 36, 969 244 359 326 2, 951 13,004 9,222 420 8,915 1.528 34, 242 1930-34 15, 412 1925-29 4, 967 1920-24 3,838 1915-19 2, 395 1910-14 2, 816 1905-9 2, 345 1900-4 1,198 1,271 0) 201 84 45 22 27 13 6 2 2 338 213 40 26 17 26 7 3 6 294 2, 488 12, 302 8, 460 145 1,753 4, 436 4, 274 73 204 1,819 1,378 36 176 1,429 957 991 518 15 107 14 123 1,340 539 64 1,124 434 8 518 203 3 36 645 157 25 403 8,390 1,366 294 3,739 474 63 1,219 126 22 1,010 160 11 604 105 3 594 164 4 530 168 93 4 336 76 2 358 33,098 1930-34 15,194 1925-29 4, 734 1920-24 3,687 1915-19 2,287 1910-14 2, 697 1905-9 2, 224 1900-4 1,100 1,175 0) 200 84 45 22 26 13 6 2 2 329 211 37 26 16 25 6 2 6 289 2, 385 11,884 8,165 144 1,724 4, 380 4, 206 70 182 1,741 1,310 36 164 1,380 916 97 955 487 15 14 10 91, 281 516 58 1,067 408 8 2 30 477 187 21 603 135 389 8,174 1,283 288 3, 695 462 58 1,173 118 20 979 144 11 584 96 3 581 155 4 511 156 3 315 82 2 336 70 1,000 202 209 120 93 98 111 83 84 1 1930-34 1925-29 1920-24 , 1915-19 ! 1910-14 1905-9 1900-4 0) 9 2 3 1930-34 1925-29 1920-24 1915-19 1910-14 1905-9 1900-4 0) 86 12 11 19 10 13 9 5 7 1930-34 1925-29 1920-24 1915-19 1910-14 1905-9 1900-4 0) 58 4 13 12 5 8 1 10 5 engineering graduates with Engineering only, total _ _ _ _ Engineering, plus B. A. in liberal arts, total. Engineering, plus M. A. in liberal arts, total. Engineering, plus Ph. D. in liberal arts, total. 1 1 1 1 4 3 T 1 1 89 28 21 8 7 12 6 4 3 376 54 70 41 33 48 55 37 38 245 62 57 30 26 17 23 13 17 13 6 5 1 6 1 33 2 7 7 3 7 2 2 3 26 2 4 7 3 3 3 1 3 8 9 12 1 1 24 4 7 4 2 3 5 1 3 1 1 2 1 2 3 2 2 2 I 1 1 2 1 1 1 1 4 2 1 197 39 44 27 19 13 16 19 20 66 11 6 13 6 7 10 7 6 1 14 5 5 1 1 3 1 1 3 1 1 1Prior to 1900. 219 1 2 1 1 4 220 E M P L O Y M E N T , EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 - 3 4 T a b l e 1.— D istrib u tio n o f all en gin eerin g graduates w ith course sam e as p rofessio n a l class reported at end o f 1 93 4 > by yea r o f graduation — Continued Master’s degree in engineering, total _ 1930-34 1926-29 1920-24 1916-19 1910-14 1905-9 1900-4 0) Engineering only, to ta l____________ Engineering, plus B. A. in liberal arts, total. Doctor’s degree in engineering , total Prior to 1900. 1930-34 1925-29 1920-24 1915-19 1910-14 1905-9 1900-4 0) 1930-34 1925-29 1920-24 1915-19 1910-14 1905-9 1900-4 0) 1930-34 1925-29 1920-24 1915-19 1910-14 1905-9 1900-4 0) 2,477 916 540 327 191 207 133 75 88 42 10 11 10 21 10 7 8 1 2 2, 448 911 ' 530 321 190 203 131 75 87 42 10 11 10 8 2 1 2 1 30 14 9 2 3 2 1 2 > O 6 30 14 9 2 3 2 1 29 5 10 6 1 4 2 o A W 699 277 172 88 55 49 34 13 11 15 9 680 180 149 97 51 77 49 36 41 360 182 73 44 24 16 6 6 9 672 180 145 95 51 76 48 36 41 690 275 168 87 55 48 34 13 10 13 7 3 2 3 8 2 9 2 4 1 2 1 4 2 1 1 1 363 182 73 46 24 17 1 250 31 51 54 28 25 23 13 25 Mechanical A 6 6 1 21 10 7 1£ 1 a> Mining and metallurgical 0 Industrial Ceramic Gradu ating Total classes Agricultural Course taken Architectural Profe;ssional class 8 3 3 1 1 1 1 483 181 90 66 : 40i 421 33, 121 19 144 54 26 15 9 15 10 ” 8 479’ 141 181i 52 88 26 661 15 39 9 41 ! 15 33 9 12 7 19 8 4: ! 2 1 1 ! 3 2 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 100 13 21 21 9 14 10 5 7 22 2 6 3 3 2 1 5 63 7 16 14 6 6 6 3 5 2 1 1 42 6 3 9 6 4i 3 3 8 18 2 4 5 3 1 2 1 221 APPENDIX C T able 2 . — D istrib u tio n o f all en gineering graduates with cou rse d ifferent fr o m p rofessio n a l class reported at end o f 1 9 8 4 , b y yea r o f graduation Mechanical Mining and metallurgical Industrial Electrical Civil Chemical Ceramic j Gradu ating Total classes Agricultural Course taken Architectural Professional class 4,413 111 39 20 144 1, 657 362 361 1,441 278 193(Ki4 1925-29 1920-24 1915-19 1910-14 1905-9 1900-4 0) 4,109 1, 547 560 522 372 372 337 218 181 97 38 15 8 5 11 12 5 3 38 7 4 7 4 8 4 2 2 15 3 7 3 1 1 121 1, 572 53 644 15 187 15 215 6 122 15 122 8 125 4 87 5 70 333 82 54 56 50 31 33 14 13 343 1, 356 163 479 56 206 36 140 23 135 23 146 25 110 9 77 63 8 234 78 23 38 24 15 19 20 17 1930-34 1925-29 1920-24 1915-19 1910-14 1905-9 1900-4 0) 3, 963 1, 532 537 499 353 353 315 204 170 92 38 15 6 5 11 11 4 2 38 14 7 3 4 ----7 4 2 8 1 4 1 2 2 117 1, 521 53 638 14 185 14 206 6 116 13 115 8 115 4 80 5 66 322 81 54 53 48 30 30 14 12 332 1,309 161 474 53 190 34 135 19 131 23 141 25 104 9 75 8 59 218 77 22 37 22 11 17 16 16 128 15 20 20 16 16 21 12 8 4 1 1930-34 1925-29 1920-24 1915-19 1910-14 1905-9 1900-4 0) 11 1 Total engineering graduates with course different from professional class. First degree in engineering, total____ Engineering, plus B. A. in liberal arts, total. Engineering, plus M . A. in liberal arts, total. Engineering, plus Ph. D. in liberal arts, total. 1930-34 1925-29 1920-24 1915-19 1910-14 1905-9 1900-4 0) i Prior to 1900. 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 49! 6 2 9 6 7 9 6 4 10 1 2 2 1 3 10 2 3 2 3 38 5 14 5 3 3 6 1 1 12 1 1 6 2 2 - 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 1 3 2 4 1 2 1 7 1930-34 1925-29 1920-24 1915-19 1910-14 1905-9 1900-4 0) 2 1 1930-34 1925-29 1920-24 1915-19 1910-14 1905-9 1900-4 0) 264 66 62 45 35 20 17 12 7 14 3 4 1 4 1 1930-34 1925-29 1920-24 191.5-19 1910-14 1905-9 1900-4 0) 256 65 58 44 34 20 17 11 7 14 3 4 1 4 1 Master’s degree in engineering, total. Engireering only, total............ ......... 2 2 2 2 1 1 4 1 1 1 1 1 3 1 1 1 1 1 1 5 1 2 1 1 19 8 5 1 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 5 1 2 1 1 18 8 5 2 2 1 2 1 1 1 75 18 17 20 6 3 4 7 25 3 7 5 4 1 2 73 18 15 20 6 3 4 24 3 7 5 3 1 2 15 8 2 1 3 1 3 3 15 8 2 1 3 i 79 21 17 11 8 9 5 5 3 31 4 8 4 7 4 4 75 20 15 11 8 9 5 4 3 31 4 8 4 7 4 4 222 EM P L O Y M E N T , EARNINGS---- ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 - 3 4 2 .— D istrib u tio n o f all en gin eerin g graduates w ith cou rse different fr o m p r o fessio n a l class reported at end o f 1 9 3 4 > by yea r o f gra d u a tion — Continued T able t Prior to 1900. Appendix D T a b l e 1.— N u m b er o f enrollm ents and first-degree graduations fr o m colleges , 1 9 2 0 to 1 9 8 4 en gineering 1 Enrollments and number of first degrees Professional class 1919-20 1921-22 1923-24 1925-26 1927-28 1929-30 1931-3211933-34 Total enrollment 51,908 56, 649 57,690 59,315 66, 637 74,000 73, 766 62,601 5, 743 Chemical________ ______ ____ Civil____________ ______ __________ 8,859 9,469 Electrical________________________ Mechanical-— ________________ — 11, 789 All others_________ ____ __________ 16,048 5, 364 9, 672 12,374 12,154 17,085 4,141 10,024 14,002 10,637 18,886 4,238 10,829 15,666 9,743 18,839 4,948 11, 501 15, 781 10, 434 23, 973 4,474 11, 563 15, 647 11, 597 30, 719 8,738 11,049 14,903 13, 445 25,631 7,222 8, 391 11, 372 11,485 24,131 All classes________________________ Number of first degrees All classes................... .................... 4, 620 7, 358 7,984 7,977 8,284 8,947 10, 374 11,421 Chemica_______ ______ __________ Civil_____________________________ Electrical________________________ Mechanical__ — _______________ All others_______ ________________ 732 1,093 931 1, 238 626 1,009 1, 615 1,490 1,673 1,571 835 1,748 2,047 2,055 1,299 741 1,866 2,246 1,809 1, 315 702 1,874 2,565 1, 622 1,521 818 1,977 2,427 1,674 2,051 1,148 2,100 2,480 2,085 2, 561 1,359 2,036 2, 558 2,454 3,013 1 Figures derived from the Biennial Surveys of the Office of Education for the years shown. 223 Appendix E T a b l e 1.— D istrib u tio n o f all en gineers reporting gross 1 u n em p lo ym en t 1980 to 1 9 3 4 1 by typ e o f education and p rofessio n a l class 11,367 33.9 12.2 2,810 2,805 1,891 1,313 Total graduate engineers 2______ Graduating classes in— 1933-34___________________ 3,489 47.1 7.5 1,438 1,217 452 210 5,902 53.5 11.9 1,431 1,558 1,129 691 1930-32_________ ______ _ 2,340 36.0 12.1 560 601 453 313 1925-29________ _________ 2.245 27.1 13.4 523 514 362 255 1915-24............ ................... 1,570 23.8 17.8 278 294 220 217 1905-14___________ _____ _ 810 23.5 23.1 104 95 116 106 Prior to 1905___ ____ ______ Chemical and ceramic 3_______ Graduating classes in— 1933-34_______ ____ _ 1930-32__________ _____ 1925-29________________ Prior to 1925__________ Civil, agricultural, and architec tural 3 ___________ _______ _ Graduating classes in— 1933-34-........................ 1930-32. .......... ...... ......... 1925-29.................... ........ 1915-24,.__________ ____ 1905-14______ _______ Prior to 1905__________ Over 48 months J 42 and under 48 months 36 and under 42 months | 30 and under 36 months 24 and under 30 months l 18 and under 24 months 1 12 and under 18 I months Under 6 months! 1 6 and under 12 months Median period in months i Type of education and professional class N um ber re porting u n employment Percentage of grand total Number whose unemployment and work relief 895 641 459 273 280 66 429 186 211 179 86 28 291 94 164 137 97 30 194 75 99 113 67 17 94 38 68 58 57 31 85 20 49 74 82 9.8 229 219 114 74 29 24 19 11 14 40.3 7.0 44.3 10.6 29.8 11.1 15.1 11.4 174 150 34 43 141 166 37 38 49 94 22 25 25 56 18 18 3 28 6 8 1 26 5 6 1 21 5 4 1 7 3 4 2 7 2 8 4,950 38.0 12.8 1,184 1,181 733 29.2 397 555 132 154 1, 212 2,147 1,007 1,114 832 422 55.1 59.7 41.9 34.4 26.8 27.0 7.9 11.9 12.2 12.9 17.0 22.9 Electrical3. . ............ ................ 2,343 31.6 12.1 Graduating classes in— 878 48.9 7.7 1933-34__________ ____ _ 1930-32________________ 1,610 54.7 13.2 534 31.3 12.4 1925-29________________ 362 19.6 14.1 1915-24_________ ______ 202 17.2 20.7 1905-14.................. ......... 79 17.1 25.3 Prior to 1905......... ......... 858 582 m 283 197 125 133 472 532 226 270 157 60 574 418 550 270 260 152 45 164 421 205 186 129 64 92 261 128 117 121 51 28 147 91 102 89 43 11 104 37 74 68 50 9 68 31 45 47 38 8 32 13 31 27 35 10 32 6 29 42 36 589 403 269 184 125 93 58 48 346 330 139 84 26 8 319 411 121 76 43 7 123 319 107 59 20 10 44 199 75 40 27 13 14 133 42 37 29 7 7 94 23 25 20 10 10 62 13 17 22 7 3 36 9 15 10 6 12 26 5 9 5 11 Mechanical and industrial3____ 2,685 31.9 12.1 Graduating classes in— 892 40.7 7.1 1933-34________________ 1930-32___________ ____ 1,379 48.5 11.1 1925-29.......................... . 598 34.2 12.0 1915-24.......................... 576 25.4 15.2 384 24.7 18.5 1905-14............................ 242 23.3 22.2 Prior to 1905.................. 719 703 441 334 231 175 126 73 63 391 362 148 119 *67 32 309 382 151 123 72 33 102 255 109 85 49 31 43 151 79 80 48 36 20 101 43 60 44 27 8 59 24 53 39 28 9 35 24 27 35 19 5 16 13 19 17 14 5 18 7 10 13 22 Mining"and metallurgical 3....... . Graduating classes in— 1933-34________________ 1930-32________________ 1925-29___________ ____ Prior to 1925............. 104 113 75 54 44 34 24 6 22 55 57 13 39 30 49 22 54 14 40 10 40 6 24 13; 271 1 20 4 30 1 8 5 25 1 8 2 18 0 3 0 5 2 2 0 20 See footnotes at end of table. 224 476 30.2; 13.7 110 211 69 258 45.6 6.0 54.7 11.9 33.7 11.7 23.9 17.4 225 APPENDIX E, T a b l e 1 . — D istrib u tio n o f all en gineers reporting gross u n e m p lo ym en t 1 9 8 0 to 1 9 8 4 , b y typ e o f education and p r ofessio n a l class — Continued Over 48 months 42 and under 48 months | 36 and under 42 months 30 and under 36 months J 24 and under 30 months 18 and under 24 months 12 and under 18 months 6 and under 12 months | Under 6 months! Median period in months Type of education and professional class N u m b e r re porting un employment Percentage of grand total Number whose unemployment and work relief was— 416 358 319 281 213 157 117 60 81 12.5 14.0 14.2 14.6 19.4 24 81 79 66 166 26 80 80 61 111 17 66 54 50 132 13 53 52 33 130 10 39 33 36 95 4 18 28 25 82 4 17 14 13 69 2 5 7 8 38 3 8 10 6 54 Civil engineers 4_______________ 1,182 39.1 15.8 Born in years— 52 55.9 13.8 1910-14-...................... . 209 57.3 13.9 1905-9_________________ 199 43.5 13.2 1900-4_________________ 164 37.8 14.1 1895-99________________ 558 33.3 18.3 Prior to 1895__________ 270 205 182 182 108 89 63 34 49 12 49 48 37 124 11 45 46 35 68 10 34 27 28 83 7 37 28 18 92 6 19 16 16 51 3 10 16 16 44 1 9 9 8 36 2 2 3 2 25 0 4 6 4 35 Mechanical engineers 8________ Born in years— 1910-14....................... . 1905-9....... .............. ....... 1900-4______ _____ ____ 1895-99________________ Prior to 1895____ ______ 820 31.2 16.9 146 153 137 99 105 68 54 26 32 11.4 14.3 15.1 15.3 22.0 12 32 31 29 42 15 35 34 26 43 7 32 27 22 49 6 16 24 15 38 4 20 17 20 44 1 8 12 9 38 3 8 5 5 33 0 3 4 6 13 3 4 4 2 19 Noncollegiate technical school8____ Born in years— 1910-14__________ ____ ____ 1905-9____________________ 1900-4____________________ 1895-99___________________ Prior to 1895______________ 955 35.6 17.3 148 202 143 127 90 90 73 28 54 48.2 49.8 41.4 34.1 32.3 15.0 15.3 16.0 14.7 19.2 8 18 24 25 73 4 28 32 32 106 3 18 28 19 75 3 20 20 11 73 3 10 10 11 56 3 10 11 16 50 0 3 14 10 46 1 2 5 4 16 2 3 5 3 41 Total secondary school8___________ 219 22.6 12.4 50 58 24 28 15 17 15 4 8 Total college work, incomplete_____ Born in years— 1910-14___________________ 1905-9____________________ 1900-4_______ _______ _____ 1895-99__________ ____ ____ Prior to 1895........................ 2,002 35.4 16.3 103 367 357 298 877 51 158 158 134 319 27 112 149 131 536 47.9 49.5 39.0 33.4 30.4 41.8 42.0 34.4 29.3 26.3 1 Includes direct relief and work relief. 2 The United States totals for graduate engineers have been adjusted as explained on p. 34. 3 Includes gross unemployment figures for first-degree engineering graduates, postgraduates, and onengineering graduates combined. 4 Includes agricultural and architectural engineers. 6Includes ceramic, chemical, electrical, industrial, and mining and metallurgical engineers, c Includes all professional classes combined. 226 E M P LO YM E N T, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 19 2 9 - 3 4 T a b l e 2 , — D istrib u tio n o f all en gineers reporting n e t 1 u n e m p lo ym en t 1 9 3 0 to 1 9 3 4 , by typ e o f education and p rofessio n a l class Over 48 months 42 and under 48 months 36 and under 42 months 30 and under 36 months 24 and under 30 months 18 and under 24 months 12 and under 18 months 6 and under 12 months Under 6 months Median period in months Number whose reported unemployment was— I Percentage of grand total Type of education and professional class Number reporting unemployment T otal2 Total postgraduates 3....... ................ Graduating classes in— 1933-34___________________ 1930-32___________________ 1925-29___________________ 1915-24___________________ Prior to 1915 _ _ ___ 691 27. 1 10.9 188 194 125 69 50 30 16 11 8 33.9 6.1 47.2 9.3 32.4 11.6 20.1 11.8 16.7 13.9 32 132 53 36 22 25 120 60 37 29 5 73 45 24 19 1 38 27 13 11 0 17 17 14 11 1 8 9 10 7 1 6 5 3 5 0 1 1 4 5 0 1 0 2 5 Total nonengineering graduates3-. 182 17.8 10.3 54 52 38 16 5 12 3 1 1 9, 876 32.9 11.3 2,575 2,680 1,746 1,051 Total first-degree engineering graduates 3__________________________ Graduating classes in— 1933-34___________________ 1930-32___________________ 1925-29___________________ 1915-24___________________ 1905-14___________________ Prior to 1905 ____________ Chemical and ceramic________ Graduating classes in— 1933-34________________ 1930-32________________ 1925-29________________ Prior to 1925 _ - _-- 65 396 217 143 114 3,081 5,183 2,003 1,952 1, 369 683 43.0 51.4 35.3 26.7 23.1 22.8 163 173 27 159 42 57 78 57 24 63 16 30 37 39 17 53 11 26 44 60 171 89 57 21 20 13 7 11 176 115 21 29 124 137 27 22 41 84 14 16 18 49 10 16 3 25 4 4 1 20 5 5 1 17 2 3 2 6 0 3 1 5 2 6 791 456 285 189 127 67 73 110 410 175 176 137 59 41 178 93 107 103 50 17 96 51 72 68 41 7 77 23 46 42 39 5 44 15 20 36 33 12 21 6 11 16 19 3 14 1 15 25 24 513 568 363 220 157 89 66 38 33 325 276 123 80 24 4 289 384 117 80 47 11 93 297 94 56 23 8 33 174 61 31 21 10 11 112 35 26 29 7 7 73 12 22 12 9 11 58 9 9 11 5 4 26 6 8 4 6 10 22 2 6 2 9 688 677 429 280 206 132 95 44 42 382 333 149 121 58 25 287 360 145 125 73 31 84 236 101 96 53 29 29 124 64 68 39 37 19 85 33 49 49 26 7 48 24 30 29 23 9 31 15 22 24 15 5 9 4 10 10 13 2 11 6 5 9 16 391 29.3! 13.3 82! 98 74 38 34 24 20 7 14 95; 175i 50I 215i 49i 48 8: 29i 26i 41 17 50i 10i 35 14 39' 5 19 7 20i 1 14 2 25 1 7 1 19 1 9 1 14 1 1 0i 6 1 1 0 M echanical and industrial-.. 2, 593 31.6 11.4 Graduating classes in— 824: 38.5i 6.6 1933-34________________ 1930-32________________ 1,237 47.0i 10.8 541 34.5 11.0 1925-29. ____________ 526i 25.7 13.1 1915-24________________ 344: 24.4 16.6 1905-14________________ 215i 22.81 22.0 Prior to 1905 ________ 321 23 225 65 106 100 79 186 Electrical engineers___________ 2,057 31.1 11.4 Graduating classes in— 783 45.3 7.4 1933-34________________ 1930-32________________ 1, 422 52.7 13.0 459 31.1 11.5 1925-29________________ 318 19.7 11.9 1915-24________________ 182 17.3 17.2 1905-14________________ 69 17.3 25.3 Prior to 1905- ________ See footnotes at end of table. 464 51 332 125 154 159 83 9.6 Civil, agricultural, and architec tural_______________________ 4,260 35.7 11.3 1,106 1,166 Graduating classes in— 459 358 1933-34_______________ 1, 012 47.2 6.8 515 536 1930-32________________ 1. 891 56.1 10.8 868 40.0 10.5 227 277 1925-29________________ 969 33.0 11.2 255 267 1915-24________________ 722 25.3 14.9 139 156 1905-14________________ 340 24.8 22.3 28 47 Prior to 1905 ________ M in in g and m e ta llu rg ic a l-.. Graduating classes in— 1933-34________________ 1930-32________________ 1925-29________________ Prior to 1925 ________ 703 126 544 235 220 180 102 39.4 6.4 43.5 11.0 27.3 10.8 15.0 12.4 575 29.7 367 458 85 104 6.9 1, 391 1,084 338 11.4 1,287 1, 458 1,062 10.9 528 583 398 11.6 494 513 352 15.8 239 299 233 22.6 59 97 107 41.7' 5.8 53.4 11.8 33.3i 12.0 23.3; 16.4 227 APPENDIX Ei T a b l e 2 . — D istrib u tio n o f all en gineers reporting net u n e m p lo ym en t 1 9 3 0 to 1 9 3 4 , b y typ e o f education and p rofessio n a l class — T ota l 2 I I g o Civil engineers 4___ Born in years— 1910-14_______ 1905-9________ 1900-4________ 1895-99_______ Prior to 1895 - __ Mechanical engineers s_ Born in years— 1910-14___________ 1905-9____________ 1900-4____________ 1895-99____________ Prior to 1895______ T o t a l noncollegiate technical school6_______________________ Born in years— 1910-14_________________ 1905-9____________________ 1900-4____________________ 1895-99___________________ Prior to 1895______________ Secondary school,6 United States 6 * 8 -3 © i§ o CO CO so CM Cl 1 © © £ Ph § co « a .3 §1 (-1 'O § £ CO a l l 3 03 A« 35 33 O TJ S 3 03 'SfC CM O CO ! 33 0 3 3 fl o 831 a 3 08 3 S3 CM oc -3 a a 3 c3 'c G C« Ui 'C j2 G 7* a © rr, 0 'g O a 00 g 03 CO CO CM t-i > 0 1,841 32.6 14.2 381 422 326 246 170 119 91 45 43.3 45.7 36.1 31.3 27. 7 11.2 11.6 11.6 12. 9 17. 7 23 75 78 63 142 27 101 94 68 132 19 65 54 56 132 7 40 49 31 119 5 26 19 26 94 4 14 22 16 4 10 2 63 1, 054 34.8 13.1 240 253 190 143 81 49.5 51.0 38.7 34.6 29.5 11.2 10.8 11.1 11.8 15.9 10 41 47 38 104 15 65 49 38 86 9 35 27 31 88 3 3 22 27 13 78 787 30.0 15.7 141 169 136 38.5 40.7 33.6 28.2 25.1 11.3 13.3 12.2 14.3 21.5 13 34 31 25 38 12 36 45 30 46 10 30 27 25 44 885 33.0 15.7 139 202 6 21 27 26 59 6 26 31 30 109 48 59 93 339 331 279 799 46 186 177 150 495 47 153 154 129 304 25 103 142 121 494 44.6 45.8 39.4 31.5 29.8 13.0 13.4 14.3 13.3 17.5 205 21.2 11.5 7 5 G 'G a G S3 3 41 2 5 15 55 2 3 35 1 27 57 45 26 19 11 9 11 47 4 5 11 8 29 0 5 4 8 28 2 1 0 2 21 0 1 3 1 14 103 89 62 46 19 22 4 18 22 18 41 2 15 10 15 47 0 9 11 8 34 4 2 5 3 7 27 0 2 2 1 14 0 13 164 113 86 71 53 24 33 3 20 34 21 86 2 16 13 11 71 2 7 12 11 54 3 8 8 11 41 0 2 13 6 32 1 2 2 2 17 12 20 30 15 14 13 2 4 i 1 Without regard to direct relief or work relief reported. 2 The United States totals for graduate engineers have been adjusted as explained on p. 34. 3 Includes all professional classes. 4 Includes agricultural and architectural engineers. 5 Includes ceramic, chemical, electrical, industrial, and mining and metallurgical engineers. 6 Includes all professional classes combined. 1 00 ! ^ u © CO a h § s 00 CO .3 ® a •g § a a 33 Total college work incomplete____ Born in years— 1910-14___________________ 1905-9____________________ 1900-4____________________ 1895-99__________________ Prior to 1895___________ cs a a Type of education and professional class Number whose reported unemployment was— T3 s g to a> Continued 6 4 3 5 1 2 23 228 EMPLOYMENT, EARNINGS---- ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 - 3 4 T a b l e 3 .— N u m b er o f graduate en gineers reporting u n e m p lo ym en t , and w ork relief after specified u n e m p lo y m e n t , 1 9 8 0 to 1 9 3 4 , b y yea r o f graduation Number whose reported unemployment and work releif (in months) was— Year of graduation Under 6 6 and under 12 12 and under 18 18 and under 24 24 and under 30 30 and under 36 36 and under 42 All engineers with college degrees obtained prior to 1930: Total unemployed____________ Total securing work relief______ 6,611 284 5,136 479 3, 492 439 2,285 312 1,485 222 919 169 532 96 282 53 Civil, agricultural, and architectural: Total unemployed____________ Total securing work relief - . . . 3,133 187 2,422 289 1,621 254 1,027 184 653 118 398 88 236 50 126 31 952 60 705 97 409 71 213 55 111 28 50 13 24 8 8 5 1,035 75 757 102 472 92 282 59 172 34 95 34 47 13 26 7 766 45 616 68 450 65 308 51 200 38 128 20 81 18 43 10 Total unemployed-------- --------Total securing work relief--------- 380 7 344 22 290 26 224 19 170 18 125 21 84 11 49 9 Other professional classes: Total unemployed______ _____ Total securing work relief------ _ 3,478 97 2, 714 190 1,871 185 1, 258 128 832 104 521 81 296 46 156 22 1,309 33 961 71 604 64 348 39 185 25 102 20 51 10 20 4 1,095 41 828 62 555 69 362 46 237 28 145 28 75 15 36 3 709 20 594 42 436 37 328 30 243 37 150 21 87 9 43 8 365 3 331 276 15 15 220 13 167 14 124 12 83 12 57 7 42 and under 48 1 9 2 5 -2 9 Total unemployed____________ Total securing work relief______ 1915-24. Total unemployed------------------Total securing work relief--------1905-14 Total unemployed_____________ Total securing work relief___ P r io r to 1905 1925-29 Total unemployed... -----------Total securing work relief______ 1915-24 Total unemployed_________ . . . Total securing work relief______ 1905-14 Total unemployed_____________ Total securing work relief--------P r io r to 1905 Total unemployed_____________ Total securing work relief--------- Appendix F T a b l e 1 .— D istrib u tio n o f gross 1 n u m ber o f all en gineers com bined reporting a n n u a l ea rn in g s in 1 9 2 9 , 1 9 8 2 , and 1 9 8 4 f r o m all typ es o f e m p lo ym en t , b y age [Without regard to employment status or type of education reported] Year of graduation. ____ Year of birth __ ______ _ __ ___ Age in years__ _ ____________ 1929 1927-28 1925-26 1921-24 1917-20 1913-16 1905-12 1897- 18891904 96 <0 1904-5 1902-3 1898- 1894-97 1890-93 1882-89 1874- 188681 73 1901 (*) 1906 24-25 23 26-27 28-31 32-35 36-39 40-47 48-55 56-63 64+ Number reporting in 1929 C la ss interval Total reporting earnings_______ 1, 518 2, 723 2, 760 5,131 3, 345 3,702 254 307 147 90 135 93 184 127 45 54 33 24 8 3 1 5 2 2 54 34 47 81 183 231 470 533 254 321 223 161 54 26 11 8 12 3 10 2 1 3 1 18 16 24 33 72 85 210 311 265 460 474 414 185 57 51 16 25 8 16 7 3 2 2 1 1 1 3 34 11 11 29 42 47 150 292 214 543 817 1,039 642 377 306 130 140 78 101 36 23 19 6 11 15 3 7 3 1 1 14 7 10 9 21 17 44 87 72 225 325 551 424 315 284 166 177 110 176 62 72 43 20 23 39 9 14 7 3 4 15 19 2 10 9 13 12 32 64 58 186 257 501 408 349 338 179 243 144 287 98 109 61 41 52 70 33 54 25 11 10 27 Under $800_______________ ___ $800 and under $1,000_________ $1,000 and under $1,200______ $1,200 and under $1,400_____ __ $1,400 and under $1,600 ______ _ $1,600 and under $1,800. __ ____ $1,800 and under $2,000.. _____ $2,000 and under $2,200-. ___ _ _ $2,200 and under $2,400 $2,400 and under $2,600_____ $2,600 and under $3,000________ $3,000 and under $3,400 ___ _ $3,400 and under $3,800______ $3,800 and under $4,200 _ ___ ___ $4,200 and under $4,600________ $4,600 and under $5,000________ $5,000 and under $5,400.-_ __ ___ $5,400 and under $6,000________ $6,000 and under $6,600 _ _ $6,600 and under $7,200 - __ $7,200 and under $7,800______ $7,800 and under $8,400 _ _ _ _ $8,400 and under $9,000______ $9,000 and under $9,600 ______ $9,600 and under $10,200 ... $10,200 and under $12,000. __ $12,000 and under $13,800 $13,800 and under $15,600 __ $15,600 and under $17,400 ___ $17,400 and under $19,200 __ _ _ $19,200 and over . . . _ _ __ 1 1 1 4 257 6,618 2, 943 1,036 37 14 21 16 31 15 56 103 63 227 380 686 663 497 515 397 502 321 532 176 247 153 97 107 192 94 181 109 33 40 113 24 9 9 20 23 12 30 39 21 101 122 283 241 184 216 173 213 135 257 108 115 74 47 72 84 44 96 68 18 19 86 16 8 9 10 12 4 14 21 15 35 45 74 76 65 57 62 56 44 96 36 45 36 11 20 27 23 37 15 12 9 1 46 [ See footnotes at end o f table. 229 285208' 41- 16 9 5 1 3 1 2 9 4 3 20 7 17 14 21 22 8 14 5 22 10 10 4 4 7 14 2 3 5 1 3 7 230 E M P L O Y M E N T , EARNINGS---- ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 - 3 4 T a b l e 1 . — D istrib u tio n o f gross n u m ber o f all en gin eers com bin ed rep ortin g a nnual ea rn in gs in 1 9 2 9 , 1 9 3 2 , and 1 9 3 4 f r o m all typ es o f em p lo ym en t, b y age — C o n tin u e d 1925- 1921- 1917- 1913- 1905- 1897- 1889Year of graduation____________ 1932 1931 1930 1929 1927(J) 24 12 1904 96 28 26 20 16 1904- 1902- 1898- 1894- 1890- 1882- 1874- 1866Year of birth................................ 1909 1908 1907 1906 5 (3) 3 1901 97 89 93 81 73 ........... ..................... 26 27-28 29-30 31-34 35-38 39-42 43-50 51-58 59-66 67+ 23 in24 Age years25 Number reporting in 1932 C la ss in terva l Total reporting earnings............. 1,799 2,937 3,089 1,654 2,659 2,630 4,889 3,184 3,506 6,178 2,695 Under $800___________________ 104 801 $800 and under $1,000__________ 177 297 $1,000 and under $1,200______ _ 110 322 $1,200 and under $1,400_____ __ 112 402 $1,400 and under $1,600________ 82 374 44 258 $1,600 and under $1,800 _______ $1,800 and under $2,000 ________ 53 237 $2,000 and under $2,200________ 28 123 $2,200 and under $2,400________ 18 40 $2,400 and under $2,600.__ __ _ _ 20 36 $2,600 and under $3,000____ _ . 22 11 $3,000 and under $3,400 _______ 11 8 $3,400 and under $3,800________ 4 5 $3,800 and under $4,200____ ____ 2 $4,200 and under $4,600._______ 3 $4,600 and under $5,000________ $5,000 and under $5,400________ 1 $5,400 and under $6,000 _______ 1 1 $6,000 and under $6,600________ 1 $6,600 and under $7,200 _______ 1 $7,200 and under $7,800________ $7,800 and under $8,400________ $8,400 and under $9,000............. 2 1 $9,000 and under $9,600______ $9,600 and under $10,200. __ __ 2 $10,200 and under $12,000______ $12,000 and under $13,800 ______ $13,800 and under $15,600.______ $15,600 and under $17,400_______ $17,400 and under $19,200 $19,200 and over______ _______ j____ 1 See footnotes at end of table. 428 236 248 319 449 380 524 282 69 79 39 20 6 5 1 1 180 84 106 123 163 199 302 223 85 93 43 32 8 5 3 1 1 1 1 228 100 86 140 213 196 332 346 286 259 224 144 46 19 15 6 7 3 5 1 1 1 161 53 89 94 125 123 256 281 234 347 320 276 116 62 36 13 16 6 13 3 2 2 1 1 1 3 1 273 95 101 139 164 129 279 342 273 519 680 697 412 255 194 94 74 42 57 15 21 9 153 58 53 70 52 60 131 146 136 241 338 456 319 222 195 105 112 94 84 43 34 18 8 5 10 7 17 1 4 4 12 2 6 2 1 1 2 7 136 45 65 74 78 53 95 127 115 236 306 440 320 286 259 152 154 115 151 62 58 '40 16 22 38 13 23 12 2 5 8 291 83 108 130 120 76 158 228 141 348 428 691 525 474 394 283 324 234 297 139 143 98 57 65 92 51 88 42 15 17 38 175 44 45 57 52 26 76 92 38 110 158 246 215 170 163 124 142 150 172 60 61 54 27 40 56 31 43 19 11 9 29 931 231 80 16 22 15 22 9 18 27 10 44 49 58 70 64 57 39 52 27 69 25 30 26 g 17 9 10 8 15 4 5 16 17 8 6 5 8 1 8 9 6 12 9 19 12 13 15 4 15 7 15 8 4 6 1 7 4 2 1 1 2 2 4 231 APPENDIX F T a b l e 1 . — D istr ib u tio n o f gross n u m ber o f all en gin eers com b in ed rep o rtin g ea rn in g s in 1 9 2 9 , 1 9 3 2 , and 1 9 3 4 f r o m all typ es o f e m p lo y m e n t , b y age — annual Continued 1925- 1921- 1917- 1913- 1905- 1897- 1889Year of graduation_____ 1934 1933 1932 1931 1930 1929 192726 24 28 20 16 12 1904 96 P ) 1904- 1902- 1898- 1894^ 1890- 1882- 1874- 1866Year of birth................... 191114 1910 1909 1908 1907 1906 5 3 93 1901 97 89 81 73 P> Age in years. ................. . 20-23 24 26 25 27 28 29-30 31-32 33-36 37-40 41-44 45-52 53-60 61-68 6 9+ Number reporting in 1934 C la ss interval Total reporting earnings. 2,826 3, 549 3, 733 3,626 3, 367 1, 741 2.806 2,737 5,058 3, 275 3, 619 3, 416 2r819 Under $800____________ 1,891 $800 and under $1,000___ 361 $1,000 and under $1,200.. 198 $1,200 and under $1,400.. 170 83 $1,400 and under $1,600.. 31 $1,600 and under $1,800.. 31 $1,800 and under $2,000.. 19 $2,000 and under $2,200.. 8 $2,200 and under $2,400.. 8 $2,400 and under $2,600.. 7 $2,600 and under $3,000.. 8 $3,000 and under $3,400. _ 3 $3,400 and under $3,800.. 1 $3,800 and under $4,200.. 1 $4,200 and under $4,600. _ $4,600 and under $5,000. 1 $5,000 and under $5,400.. 1 $5,400 and under $6,000. _ 3 $6,000 and under $6,600.. $6,600 and under $7,200 $7,200 and under $7,800 $7,800 and under $8,400 . $8,400 and under $9,000.. $9,000 and under $9,600.. $9,600 and under $10,200 $10,200 and under $12,000 $12,000 and under $13,800. $13,800 and under $15,600. $15,600 and under $17,400. $17,400 and under $19,200 $19,200 and over_______ 853 510 594 591 421 224 161 93 33 30 16 603 460 454 312 573 403 627 523 599 556 311 430 254 456 147 248 49 88 48 78 29 37 10 17 20 3 7 5 1 2 3 1 1 1 1 2 1 4 1 1 1 1 2_____ 3 1 1 2 1 1 1 i 277 100 185 75 277 105 367 127 428 180 451 199 579 291 379 282 148 116 125 110 78 72 40 45 16 18 4 8 3 3 4 2 2 1 1 2 1 2 2 1 3 168 80 107 191 185 232 398 366 270 323 204 158 47 33 18 116 46 72 105 156 165 280 302 268 333 350 245 105 70 53 174 79 119 169 230 190 384 391 354 520 628 666 366 256 179 103 8 20 5 15 68 1 9 50 11 46 7 1 16 1 2 1 1 4 4 3 1 2 1 24 18 5 102 41 63 86 112 82 179 178 176 281 358 438 283 202 175 105 103 81 82 43 21 18 15 103 49 61 96 116 101 160 185 120 257 339 422 328 243 223 143 154 114 127 50 54 29 15 25 30 237 87 115 167 172 133 262 269 198 429 490 683 517 425 403 293 290 197 279 123 126 85 49 69 85 62 67 40 176 54 66I 73 88 53 107 106 81 137 180 235 210 167 168 115 149 126 149 46 59 41 25 32 47 34 41 8 12 14 3 2 4 21 8 21 7 1 4 13 22 1 2 3 12 7 3 3 12 4 1 4 14 40 21 972 246 101 32 29 25 35 21 23 24 17 39 44 71 62 57 58 39 43 40 47 26 19 16 10 16 17 16 11 4 1 5 14 25 7 8 18 10 4 9 9 4 11 9 26 9 18 13 4 11 7 14 3 9 3 3 4 2 1 i 4 1Total number of engineers who reported monthly engineering earnings in [any 1 year, irrespective of whether or not they reported in other years. 2 Prior to 1889. ®Prior to 1866. 232 Appendix G a b l e 1 .— Distribution of number of engineers reporting monthly engineering earnings in 1 92 9 , 1 982 , and 1984 [Figures adjusted as explained on p. 34] i Chemical and ce ramic engineers Total Class interval Total reporting earnings_____ Mechanical and in dustrial engineers Mining and metal lurgical engineers 1929 1932 1934 1934 1929 1932 1934 1929 1932 1934 1929 1932 1934 _____ 28, 511 28, 642 32,836 1,288 1,473 1, 958 12,920 12,889 14,624 5,504 5,687 6,222 7,568 7,411 8, 648 1,231 1,182 1,384 3 4 3 19 33 84 37 58 152 124 113 94 68 107 47 80 34 20 42 15 34 31 7 5 25 13 16 6 6 2 6 21 16 47 78 93 131 70 77 172 112 124 100 64 88 45 50 30 16 21 24 23 21 5 5 11 6 11 4 1 1 6 16 7 19 100 277 347 261 334 821 650 572 461 216 355 156 230 79 78 98 50 107 68 28 19 52 24 22 14 7 5 31 69 52 144 246 350 509 361 429 854 608 502 364 234 224 115 144 80 52 73 38 75 46 15 18 24 19 12 10 3 2 15 78 101 262 431 462 536 416 492 912 563 478 360 227 221 107 142 85 39 61 31 61 48 15 18 24 17 11 7 3 4 10 19 11 22 89 199 317 273 368 947 839 910 656 332 607 239 448 145 96 200 110 159 171 52 28 107 31 74 37 16 8 58 105 77 192 344 462 536 434 407 1,024 773 685 574 246 428 168 272 82 77 114 71 87 84 28 12 46 27 22 15 5 2 12 120 130 391 657 682 763 570 582 1,147 766 651 487 291 381 167 228 94 73 98 61 81 81 29 21 39 19 16 4 6 2 11 2 2 5 5 12 46 39 40 154 117 159 100 43 112 39 85 33 17 39 17 28 35 3 4 23 16 18 7 5 1 25 20 15 20 49 55 79 50 55 150 116 109 94 56 79 40 54 14 14 22 9 12 23 5 6 7 4 8 5 4 1 7 15 11 48 87 98 124 69 76 161 131 114 89 55 73 35 58 17 9 26 5 21 16 7 6 8 5 7 3 2 Under $60_______ _______________ _ $60 and under $80________ _________ $80 and under $100_______ ____ ____ $100 and under $120-____________ $120 and under $140__________________ $140 and under $160__________ _______ $160 and under $180______ ______ _ _ $180 and under $200_______ _____ _ ___ $200 and under $240___________ _ __ $240 and under $280________________ _ $280 and under $320- __ _____________ $320 and under $360____ __________ _ $360 and under $400________________ _ $400 and under $440________________ _ $440 and under $480__________________ $480 and under $520______________ __ _ $520 and under $560______________ $560 and under $600__________________ $600 and under $640__________________ $640 and under $680-. _______________ $680 and under $760____ ____________ $760 and under $840__________________ $840 and under $920__________________ $920 and under $1,000__________ ____ $1,000 and under $1,080_______________ $1,080 and under $1,240_______ ______ $1,240 and under $1.400___ _ ______ $1,400 and under $1,560_____________ $1,560 and under $1,720_______________ $1,720 and under $1,880_________ ____ $1,880 and over___ ________________ Electrical engineers 1934 1929 79 49 91 326 786 1, 399 1,176 1,626 4, 355 3, 559 3, 455 2,565 1,150 2,014 779 1, 362 450 300 602 316 465 439 134 77 306 116 191 102 51 23 168 1932 Civil, agricultural, and architectural engineers 439 275 656 1,232 1,603 2,331 1,784 2,034 4, 520 3,238 2,650 2,025 1,003 1, 310 600 817 309 232 340 200 270 247 73 52 128 73 71 44 22 8 56 391 393 1,171 2, 214 2, 722 3,387 2,383 2,516 4,862 3,138 2,243 1,821 1,050 1,222 531 689 311 188 285 156 257 227 75 59 126 60 57 25 20 12 45 24 40 117 202 198 179 108 98 207 130 114 108 64 94 42 52 20 17 26 18 22 23 8 8 14 6 9 4 1 1 4 1929 39 25 42 113 265 605 566 826 2,281 1,829 1,701 1,254 491 833 298 519 159 89 223 124 137 134 44 21 99 32 61 38 17 7 48 1932 224 115 253 515 643 1,076 869 1,066 2, 320 1, 629 1,230 893 403 491 232 297 103 73 110 58 73 73 20 11 40 17 18 10 9 2 16 154 111 353 837 1,282 1,785 1,220 1, 268 2, 435 1,548 1,086 777 413 453 180 209 95 50 74 41 72 59 16 6 41 13 14 7 8 5 12 8 E M P L O Y M E N T , EARNINGS ---- ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 - 3 4 T 233 APPENDIX G T a b l e 2 . — Distribution of gross 1 number of all engineers combined reporting monthly engineering earnings in 1 9 2 9 , 1932y and 1 9 3 4 > by age [Without regard to employment status or specific type of education reported] Year of graduation.__ ---------- 1929 192728 192526 192124 191720 191316 1905- 1897- 188912 1904 96 (2) Year of birth........................ ...... 1906 1904r5 19023 18981901 189497 189093 1882- 1874- 186689 81 73 (*) Age in years . . . ______ ______ 23 24-25 26-27 28-31 32-35 36-39 40-47 48-55 56-63 64+ Number reporting in 1929 C la ss interval Total reporting earnings_______ 1,446 2,638 2,645 4,905 3,186 3,484 10 7 29 135 355 425 177 116 126 36 12 4 1 9 5 18 73 240 517 427 479 555 178 71 29 3 18 2 9 2 1 1 2 6 4 11 21 74 196 236 378 858 438 238 80 27 31 12 16 3 3 3 2 2 1 11 8 5 26 34 116 171 328 1,212 991 842 485 161 222 74 97 25 18 19 14 14 16 2 2 1 1 4 2 1 1 10 5 5 13 16 36 48 102 443 527 526 431 182 274 91 163 56 32 68 33 42 36 10 4 10 5 4 5 1 6 1 8 7 4 3 10 12 24 33 82 384 428 528 480 192 331 143 253 82 58 110 43 76 69 22 12 39 11 21 11 1 1 14 Under $60____________________ $60 and under $80_____________ $80 and under $100...................... $100 and under $120___________ $120 and under $140___________ $140 and under $160___________ $160 and under $180____ _ _ $180 and under $200_______ ____ $200 and under $240___________ $240 and under $280___________ $280 and under $320___________ $320 and under $360___________ $360 and under $400. ___ _____ $400 and under $440___________ $440 and under $480___ _ ____ $480 and under $520___ _____ _ $520 and under $560___________ $560 and under $600. _ ________ $600 and under $640___ ________ $640 and under $680________ __ $680 and under $760__ _________ $760 and under $840__________ $840 and under $920 . __ ______ $920 and under $1,000_____ ____ $1,000 and under 1,080. . . . ___ $1,080 and under $1,240 _______ $1,240 and under $1,400 . . . . . . $1,400 and under $1,560.___ __ $1,560 and under $1,720 ______ $1,720 and under $1,880________ $1,880 and over________________ See footnotes at end of table. 6 2 1 1 1 1 6, 233 2, 766 4 9 8 26 27 47 57 79 500 620 824 689 365 722 289 481 161 103 221 129 180 188 55 33 143 55 87 41 21 9 60 11 2 5 12 15 26 17 38 187 247 307 261 154 296 122 249 77 61 119 60 109 80 32 15 78 26 59 25 21 7 48 970 235 8 3 6 7 11 7 5 18 65 78 86 83 49 96 38 79 34 19 50 32 29 31 10 12 27 14 17 14 6 4 32 3 2 1 3 1 5 5 5 25 15 20 22 15 17 7 15 9 6 11 2 12 14 2 1 2 3 2 3 2 5 234 E M P LO YM E N T, EARNINGS— ENGINEERING PROFESSION, 1 9 2 9 - 3 4 T able 2 . — Distribution of gross number of all engineers combined reporting monthly engineering earnings in 1 9 2 9 , 1 9 8 2 , and 1 9 3 4 , by age— Continued 1927- 1925- 1921- 1917- 1913- 1905- 1897- 1889Year of graduation____________ 1932 1931 1930 1929 28 (2) 12 1904 96 24 26 20 16 Year of birth_______ _________ Age in years--------------------------- 1909 1908 1907 1906 26 27-28 29-30 31-34 35-38 39-42 43-50 51-58 59-66 67+ 25 24 23 1904- 1902- 1898- 1894- 1890- 1882- 1874- 1866(3) 3 1901 97 93 89 73 5 81 Number reporting in 1932 C la ss interval Total reporting earnings----------- 1,050 2,044 2,506 1,419 2,389 2,395 4,433 2,907 3,175 5,620 2,431 Under $60____________________ $60 and under $80______________ $80 and under $100_____________ $100 and under $120____________ $120 and under $140____________ $140 and under $160-.- ________ $160 and under $180____________ $180 and under $200____________ $200 and under $240--- _ ______ $240 and under $280____________ $280 and under $320____________ $320 and under $360____________ $360 and under $400___________ $400 and under $440 __________ $440 and under $480___________ $480 and under$520 . _ . . . ___ $520 and under $560________ $560 and under $600_________ _ $600 and under $640 ___________ $640 and under $680 ___________ $680 and under $760-__________ $760 and under $840 _______ _ _ $840 and under $920____________ $920 and under $1,000 ___ _____ $1,000 and under $1,080_________ $1,080 and under $1,240_________ $1,240 and under $1,400 ________ $1,400 and under $1,560- _ $1,560 and under $1,720_________ $1,720 and under $1,880_____ $1,880 and over____ ______ _ _ See footnotes at end of table. 80 89 206 264 173 124 35 20 36 13 4 1 2 76 79 259 467 478 388 143 54 74 14 5 1 2 45 45 147 330 574 729 315 144 131 23 11 6 1 1 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 2 32 49 32 27 28 27 16 27 16 17 52 37 59 36 30 135 75 109 64 40 227 116 154 55 65 373 253 261 106 88 95 326 256 278 102 436 331 366 175 158 499 650 1,085 513 461 166 317 766 454 440 64 166 524 424 424 22 80 331 285 361 21 132 145 189 10 11 20 122 181 219 1 45 8 70 101 1 11 4 84 147 46 1 3 14 58 33 1 2 9 25 43 1 2 20 47 36 1 15 28 10 5 2 38 16 1 1 38 8 18 2 5 8 4 2 9 3 17 3 2 8 1 4 8 1 1 1 3 2 2 i 1 2 2 6 19 15 56 106 234 360 231 170 167 36 12 6 3 41 78 28 14 23 44 41 113 85 34 52 74 72 146 192 58 672 242 710 245 678 257 605 224 312 135 482 200 205 135 276 176 107 55 42 88 141 55 42 80 108 69 96 55 21 30 26 13 56 36 34 17 29 19 19 12 3 9 1 3 18 18 837 201 27 5 12 12 12 27 16 23 74 61 79 89 45 62 30 58 32 7 31 21 23 23 7 6 6 8 9 5 2 1 4 7 6 9 7 23 18 13 20 11 13 5 14 6 4 3 9 6 5 6 3 7 7 1 1 1 1 3 3 235 APPENDIX G T a b l e 2 . — Distribution of gross number of all engineers combined reporting monthly engineering earnings in 1929, 1932, and 1934, by age— Continued Year of graduation___ 1934 1933 1932 1931 1930 1929 1927- 1925- 1921- 1917- 1913- 1905- 1897- 1889- (2) 12 1904 96 24 26 20 16 28 Year of birth________ 1911- 1910 1909 1908 1907 1906 1904- 1902- 1898- 1894- 1890- 1882- 1874- 1866- (3) 14 3 1901 97 89 5 93 81 73 Age in years________ 20-23 24 25 27 26 28 29-30 31-38 33-36 37-40 41-44 45-52 53-60 61-68 69+ Number reporting in 1934 C la ss in terval Total reporting earnings----- ------ --------- 2,054 2,500 2,602 2,635 2,618 1,477 2,483 2,454 4,549 2,985 3,290 5,808 2, 554 Under $60___________ $60 and under $80___ $80 and under $100___ $100 and under $120... $120 and under $140. __ $140 and under $160. $160 and under $180. __ $180 and under $200... $200 and under $240... $240 and under $280. „ $280 and under $320... $320 and under $360. _. $360 and under $400... $400 and under $440... $440 and under $480... $480 and under $520. _. $520 and under $560. . $560 and under $600 ... $600 and under $640... $640 and under $680.__ $680 and under $760. $760 and under $840... $840 and under $920... $920 and under $1,000 _ $1,000 and under $1,080. $1,080 and under $1,240. $1,240 and under $1,400. $1,400 and under $1,560. $1,560 and under $1,720. $1,720 and under $1,880 $1,880 and over______ 69 180 481 614 420 166 54 24 19 4 2 1 1 1 68 127 474 714 556 324 110 52 46 9 3 2 1 2 1 1 64 121 390 602 665 423 164 79 57 21 4 4 2 2 1 1 47 58 225 486 603 679 257 143 106 14 9 1 1 28 33 135 336 483 718 396 234 180 46 14 2 4 4 1 1 11 21 42 114 204 320 287 197 191 47 23 9 1 4 2 2 1 2 3 3 2 2 5 2 2 1 1 1 2 1 1 25 13 54 177 242 431 349 385 505 168 67 30 16 7 1 6 1 17 29 11 22 32 42 78 119 161 250 307 382 248 345 384 458 637 1,025 270 685 135 479 82 302 34 116 25 127 5 42 40 15 15 7 2 22 3 13 2 4 13 1 1 2 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 1 2 1 29 10 21 65 108 186 161 177 534 427 386 297 182 210 93 121 54 36 46 20 28 37 8 9 20 5 9 1 2 1 2 7 20 11 24 61 112 172 162 215 556 447 357 250 152 148 67 81 33 27 17 12 24 16 1 1 8 5 2 2 1 4 1 2 1 1 51 26 57 129 174 240 224 274 810 728 626 543 330 444 174 221 122 67 117 59 104 91 28 30 47 27 26 10 6 7 16 38 16 29 51 77 149 79 118 275 253 258 209 159 184 110 146 54 32 54 30 54 52 23 13 32 23 13 5 3 2 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