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Review

FEDERAL RESERVE

BANK

OF

OCTOBER

1943

SAN

FRANCISCO

Sources of Manpower in the Twelfth District

I abor shortage is the principal wartime problem of the
Twelfth District, threatened labor surplus the princi­
pal concern for the postwar future. The labor shortage
results from a sharp expansion of industrial production
and the concurrent withdrawal into military service of a
large number of workers and potential workers. The
probability of experiencing substantially full employment
after the war depends on how many of the additional jobs,
or their equivalent, carry over into the postwar period,
and on how many of the additional workers, and of the
men already drawn into military service from the area,
seek permanent employment in the District.
J

Little can be said, in specific terms, about the probable
or potential number of postwar jobs. The amount of the
wartime increase in jobs and the direction in which it has
been concentrated are pertinent points of departure for
judging the extent to which the increase may persist. Sim­
ilarly, while it is impossible to foretell how many of the
people who have come into the District’s labor force will
remain in it, determination of their number and sources
should help to define the magnitude of the problem.
U nb a la n ced Increase in Em ploym ent

Employment in nonagricultural establishments and on
farms in the District is estimated to have increased by
1,302 thousand from an average of 3,575 thousand in
1940 to 4,877 thousand in June 1943.
E

m plo y m e n t

F

in

a r m s

N

— T

o n a g r ic u l t u r a l
w e lfth

F

ederal

E
R

s t a b l is h m e n t s
eserve

D

a n d

Total
M o n th ly A v e ra g e , 1 9 4 0 -----Ju n e, 1943 ..................................
In crea se .......................................

3,575
4,877
1,302

694
699
5

is t r ic t

686
1,544
858

All
Other1
2,195
2,634
439

Increases were limited to the chief urban industrial
centers, with the remainders of the various states, for the
most part, losing population. An apparent exception is
Arizona, where population grew in both the Phoenix area
and in the rest of the state. In this instance, however, the
“remainder” includes both a second urban industrial area
in and around Tucson, and counties in which 28 thousand
Japanese have been relocated.

1 M a n u fa ctu rin g activ ities in G ov ern m en t yards and de'pots in clu d ed in A ll
O th er.
N o t e : F ig u res e'xclude prop rietors o f u n in corp ora ted businesses, the selfem p loy ed , d om estic servants, casual w ork ers, and unp aid fa m ily w ork ers
other than farm fam ily w ork ers. A n estim ate o f a b ou t 600 thousand for
the ex clu d ed g rou p s, as o f A p ril 1940, can be derive’d b y su b tra ctin g e m ­
ploy m en t in n on a g ricu ltu ra l establishm ents and on farm s fro m the total
n u m ber rep ortin g them selves em p loyed in the 1940 ce'nsus. T h e derived
figu re is in error b y any discrep an cies betw een the tw o sou rces o f data.
S o u r c e : U n ited States Bureau o f L a b o r Statistics, e x cep t for agricu ltu ral
em p loym en t, for w h ich it is U n ited States B u reau o f A g ricu ltu ra l E c o ­
nom ics.

Two-thirds of this increase has been in manufacturing
employment, and over 90 percent of the growth in manu­
facturing has been in shipbuilding and aircraft. Including
Navy yards and repair work in military air depots, these
two industries now employ half again as many workers as
did all manufactures before the war. The older estab­




★ ß a c h U te A tta c k

Population

Resident civilian population in the seven western states
in June 1943 was 789 thousand greater than total popula­
tion in April 1940, when the most recent decennial census
was made. With the exception of Idaho, all of the states
experienced some gain, despite heavy withdrawals into
the military services.

on

(in thousands)

ManufacAgricultural
turing1

lished industries serving civilian markets have grown
over a long period much more slowly than the wartime
rate of expansion in the production of military goods. It
would require many years at the prewar rate of growth
for those industries to provide as many jobs as now exist
in manufacturing enterprises in the District. But the war
also has brought important metal producing and metal
working industries, which are capable of supplying raw
and semi-finished materials and parts, to manufacturers
of civilian as well as of military goods. Even if, as is
expected, shipbuilding and aircraft production fall to a
fraction of their present levels, the consequent reduction
in the number of jobs may be balanced in part not only
by resumption of activities which have been curtailed be­
cause of raw material or labor shortages, but by the con­
version of war industries to the manufacture of new
peacetime products on a sizeable scale. From the stand­
point of the total number of jobs available after the war,
the most important question is the extent to which such
conversion is physically possible and economically feasi­
ble. This and other questions concerning availability of
jobs represent one side of the problem. The other has to
do with the number of people wanting jobs, and it is to
this side of the problem that the following discussion is
related.

★

The two largest urban areas, centering in Los Angeles
and San Francisco, experienced the greatest absolute
increases in population. Relative to 1940, however, the
greatest gains occurred in the Las Vegas, San Diego,
Portland - Vancouver and Seattle - Tacoma - Bremerton
areas. Las Vegas, with over two and a half times its pre­
war population, is an extreme example of the effect of

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locating important war production facilities in or near a
small community.
P o p u l a t io n a n d I n - m ig r a t io n — T w e l f t h F e d e ra l
R e se r v e D is t r ic t
(April, 1940-June, 1943)
T otal
C ivilian
Popula- P op ula tion
tion
N et
A p r . 1, June 30,
Ratio
I n -m i1940
1943
1943 to
gration
(in thou- (in thou1940(in thousands)sands) (in percent)
sands)

State A r e a
A r i z o n a .........................................
P h o e n ix A r e a ........................
R em a in d er o f S t a t e ............

499
186
313

C a liforn ia .....................................
S an F r a n cis c o B a y A r e a .
L o s A n g e le s A r e a ...............
San D ie g o A r e a ....................
R em a in d er o f S ta te ............

6,907
1,462
2,786
289
2,370

Id a h o

Ratio
In -m igration
to 1940
P opulation (in
percent)

574
208
366

115
112
117

89
29
60

18
16
19

7,453
1,722
2,984
386
2,361

108
118
107
134
100

923
356
352
112
103

13
24
13
39
4

............................................

525

465

89

— 40

8 ( lo s s )

N ev a d a .........................................
L a s V e g a s A r e a ....................
R em a in d er o f S t a t e ............
O r e g o n .........................................
P o r tla n d -V a u co u v e r A r e a .
R em a in d er o f S t a t e ............

110
16
94
1,090
355
735

136
42
94
1,146
434
712

124
263
100
105
122
97

34
27
7
121
107
14

31
169
7
11
30
2

U ta h ..............................................
550
Salt L a k e -O g d e n A r e a . . .
268
R em a in d er o f S t a t e ............
282
............................. 1,736
W a s h in g t o n
S e a ttle -T a c o m a -B r e m e r to n
A r e a .....................................
731
P o r tla n d -V a n co u v e r A r e a .
50
R em a in d er o f S t a t e ............
955

584
307
277
1,848

106
115
98
106

42
44
—2
203

8
16
1 (lo s s )
12

894
81
873

122
162
91

164
32
7

22
64
1

T w e lfth D is tr ic t T o t a l ..........11,417
A ll U rb a n A re a s C o m b in e d 6,143
A ll R em ain d ers o f S ta te s. 5,274

12,206
7,058
5,148

107
115
98

1,372
1,223
149

12
20
3

515

127

139

34

P o r tla n d -V a n co u v e r A r e a
T o t a l ....................................

405

A r e a s : E a ch “ area” is c o m p o s e d o f the co u n ties c o n ta in in g the cities used
in id en tify in g the are'a, w ith the e x c e p tio n o f “ San F r a n cis c o B a y A r e a ”
w h ich is A la m e d a , C on tra C osta, M a rin , San F r a n cis c o , San M a te o and
S ola n o cou n ties.
S o u r c e s o f D a t a : B o th the 1943 pop u la tio n figu res and the estim ate o f net
in -m ig ra tion are’ based o n registra tion s w ith the O ffic e o f P rice A d m in is ­
tration fo r W a r R a tio n B o o k I I . T h e re gistra tio n figu res p u rp o rt to e x ­
c lu d e all m em bers o f the arm ed fo rce s w h o re ce iv e sustenance in kind or
w h o are m essed separately un d er an o ffic e r ’ s com m a n d . F a ilu re to r e g ­
ister, dish o n e st d u p lica te re g istra tio n , o r n e g le ct in retu rn in g b o o k s
issu ed person s su b seq u en tly deceased o r b e c o m in g ineligible’, m ay in tro ­
d u ce errors into the b a s ic data. U n ce rta in ty as to a c c u r a c y is greater in a
sm all g e o g r a p h ic area than in a state o r in co m b in a tio n s o f states o r
areas. E rro rs are n o t believed to be ex ce ssiv e in any case.

M igration

Net in-migration, which has been much more important
than natural increase in this period of rapid growth,
added 1,372 thousand persons to the District’s population
between April 1940 and June 1943. This is 583 thousand
more than the population increase, the difference being
the excess of military withdrawals over natural increase.
The figure of 1,372 thousand measures only net migra-

Distribution and Trade—
Index numbers, 1935*39
daily average=100
Retail Trade

With Seasonal
Adjustment-19431942
Aug. July June Aug.

D ep a rtm en t S to re Sales (v a lu e )
T w e lfth D is t r ic t .......... .p l9 8
S ou th ern C a liforn ia . . . p l 9 2
N o rth e r n C a lifo r n ia .. .p l 7 4
P o rtla n d ........................ .p l9 9
W e s te rn W a s h in g t o n . . p2 4 0
E a stern W a s h in g t o n
and N o rth e r n I d a h o .p l 9 7
P h o e n i x ........................... . p283

Without Seasonal
Adjustment ------- N
,--------- 1943-------- X 1942
Aug. July June Aug.

199
195
186
205
241

200
199
179
203
245

172
166
151
180
217

p l8 0
p l7 9
p l5 8
p l9 0
p226

165
166
152
174
199

184
183
165
194
227

158
155
139
173
204

176
232

183
235

168
228

p l7 8
p l9 7

156
176

173
200

152
159

117
117
118

107
123
85

107
116
95

p ll9
p l2 7
p i 08

119
125
112

115
131
95

123
130
115

Carloadings (n u m b e 'r)1
T o ta l .................................... .p l0 3
M erch a n d ise and M is c. . p l l ¿
O t h e r ................................ .p 89

1 1923-25 daily average = 100.
p Preliminary.




October 1943

tion to the District; in other words, only the difference
between in-coming and out-going population is reflected
in the figure. In the more congested centers, transporta­
tion, housing, and general living conditions are, or have
been at one time, so unsatisfactory that some of the in­
migrant workers leave after a relatively brief experience.
Furthermore, some localities have attracted population
from other parts of the District and the latter areas, in
turn, have offset their losses, at least in part, by drawing
on still other regions. The urban communities with the
greatest volume of supply contracts have gained popula­
tion from their own hinterlands, and from other states in
the District, as well as from outside the District. With
these intra-district movements, the total shifting of pop­
ulation has been several times the net amount of inmigration.
Sources of Increased M a n p o w e r

The increase in Twelfth District manpower require­
ments in nonagricultural establishments and on farms
consists of the 1,302 thousand by which employment has
increased, plus the replacement of workers withdrawn by
military inductions and enlistments. The requirements
have been met by in-migration and by increased intensity
of employment of the population.
Net in-migration has been the most important single
source of additional manpower. It has furnished 686
thousand workers. Substantially all of the 488 thousand
unemployed and of the 215 thousand on emergency work
in 1940 presumably have been absorbed. The age distri­
bution of the population in 1940 was such that a net
increase in the number of persons in the age groups most
likely to be in the labor force could have been expected
by 1943. This is estimated to have supplied about 70 thou­
sand workers, without allowance for migration and mili­
tary withdrawals.
The propensity to seek work, under the stimulus of
the war effort, has assisted materially in meeting ex-

Production and Employment—
Index numbers, 1923-25
average=100
With SeasonalWithout Seasonal
<Adjustment--------■>
,--------Adjustment--------%
,---------1943--------- x1942
-- --------- 1943--------- n 1942
Industrial Production1
Aug. July June Aug.
Aug. July June Aug.
L u m b e r 23 ............................. p l2 7
R efin ed O ils ........................... —
Cem ent .................................. 135
W h e a t F lo u r ........................ 121
P e t r o l e u m .............................
—
E le c tr ic P o w e r ................... p389

141
—
137
126
—
378

138
—
145
130
—
385

134
—
226
117
—
318

p l5 2
198
151
121
118
p426

150
192
150
110
118
422

156
194
165
115
118
413

162
184
203
117
110
349

Factory Employment and Payrolls2 3 4
E m p lo y m e n t
T w e lfth D is t r i c t ............
C a liforn ia ...................
P a cific N o r t h w e s t .. .
O re g o n ...................
W a s h in g to n ..........
In te rm o u n ta in ..........

309
371
226
220
229
161

310
370
231
230
230
164

306
365
236
230
238
164

252
290
211
197
218
146

311
372
230
226
232
161

311
370
232
232
232
168

306 255
365 291
234 215
232 203
235 222
168 148

P a y ro lls
T w e lfth D i s t r i c t ............
C a liforn ia ....................
P a cific N o rth w e s t. . .
O re g o n ...................
W a s h in g to n ..........
In te rm o u n ta in ..........

613
726
453
399
484
335

622
717
497
451
523
334

611
708
487
430
520
304

446
502
382
335
410
227

624
730
481
428
511
324

617
716
487
434
518
327

613
712
485
434
514
322

1 D a ily average.
2 1935-39 average = 100.
3 R e v ise d series. B a ck figu res w ill b e supplied o n requ est.
4 E x clu d e s fish, fru it, and ve ge ta b le can n in g.
p P relim in ary.

456
506
406
360
433
223

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MONTHLY REVIEW

panded manpower needs. A greater proportion of young
people, of housewives, and of men nearing or past re­
tirement age have taken or retained jobs. Shifting of
some of the proprietors of unincorporated businesses,
self-employed, domestic servants, casual workers, and
family workers other than farm family workers, into
employment in non-agricultural establishments and on
farms, or into military service, has also counted in meet­
ing the increase in manpower requirements as defined
above. Measurement of the total addition resulting from
increased participation of young people, housewives, etc.,
and of whatever number of proprietors, servants, etc.
may have shifted occupations, is not directly available.
The difference between this total and military withdraw­
als can be derived, however, and military withdrawals
were larger by about 155 thousand.
Perm anence of Increased District Labor Su p p ly

A fairly large number of the workers who made it
possible for Twelfth District industry and agriculture to
expand employment by 1,302 thousand may be unwilling
to drop out of the District labor force when the war ends.
A substantial part of the housewives will withdraw if their

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husbands have jobs or reasonable assurance of jobs, how­
ever, and many of the young people will quit and many of
the old ones may retire. Former domestics may be unwill­
ing to give up factory jobs, at factory wages, for what
they formerly earned as servants, but the opportunity in
domestic service will exist for them or for others. The
same will hold, more or less, for the casual workers,
proprietors and self-employed who may have shifted from
their earlier occupations. Some of those who have mi­
grated to centers of war production doubtless will return
to their prewar homes. Other in-migrants, however, have
brought their families and possessions, with full intention
of permanent settlement in the District. The previously
unemployed and those on emergency work programs in
1940 can hardly be expected to return voluntarily to their
former status. In addition, the demobilized military per­
sonnel will be seeking employment.
Unless the war industries of the District can convert
their facilities to the manufacture of peacetime products,
the number of jobs in the District will be much smaller
than at present. The number wanting work in the District
is likely to exceed by a wide margin the number employed
in 1940. The threat of a serious labor surplus is real.

Government Finance and Bank Credit
Bank Deposits and C o in a nd C u rren cy in Circulation

the four weeks ending October 6, which in­
D
cluded the period of the Third War Loan Drive, pur­
chases of Government securities by individuals, corpora­
tions, and other non-bank buyers temporarily halted the
expansion in bank deposits and coin and currency in cir­
culation which has been evident over the past two years or
more. Payment for those purchases by non-bank investors
drew heavily upon deposits and to a much smaller extent
upon cash holdings of the public. Adjusted demand de­
posits of Twelfth District member banks declined about
6 percent during the period. This decline was in marked
contrast to the persistent increase of other recent months
which has averaged about 4 percent monthly since the
first of the year. The steady increase in the demand for
currency also was interrupted, although not to the same
degree. Coin and currency in circulation remained almost
unchanged in the two weeks ending September 22. The
u r in g

A v era ges o f W edn esda y figures
(millions of dollars)
C o n d itio n Ite m s o f W e e k ly R e p o rtin g
M em b er B a n k s
T o t a l lo a n s ...................................................
C o m ’ l, ind. & a gric. lo a n s ............
L o a n s to finance securities
tran saction s ....................................
R ea l estate lo a n s ..................................
A ll oth er lo a n s .......................................
T o ta l in vestm en ts ..................................
U n ited States G o v ’ t s e c u r it ie s .. . .
A ll oth er s e c u r itie s .............................
A d ju ste d dem and d e p o s its ...................
T im e d e p o s i t s ...........................................
U n ited States G o v ’t d e p o s it s ............

970
472
70
325
103
3,456
3,025
431
2,493
1,265
495

C oin and C u rren cy in C ircu lation
—
T o ta l (ch a n g es o n l y ) .............................
F ed . R es. notes o f F . R . B . o f S. F . 1,625
M em b er B a n k R e s e rv e s ........................
1,372




■Change F r o m —

f

1943
Sept.

f-------- Ly'tô-------- \
A ug.

+
+

56
23

July

+
+

55
31

—
—

... >
1942
Sept.

72
5

+ 33
—
4
+
4
+ 69
— 62
+ 131
+ 30
+ 33
+ 59

+ 27
—
4
+
1
+ 173
+ 41
+132
+ 76
+ 47
+ 69

31
+
46
—
52
+ 1,532
+ 1 ,5 3 0
2
+
690
+
168
+
426
+

+

91

+
+

8
48

+153
+ 62

+
+

+

68

714
573
133

upward movement was resumed before the end of Sep­
tember, but the increase of 34 million dollars over the
four weeks ending October 6 was substantially smaller
than increases in other recent months.
The decline in demand deposits was not accompanied
by any similar reduction in time accounts, although the
moderate but persistent increase in time accounts, which
has been evident over the preceding six months, was inter­
rupted. The total of these accounts on October 6 was
virtually unchanged from the level of four weeks earlier.
Funds held in time accounts apparently were not used on
any large scale for the purchase of Government securities.
Loans and Investments of M e m b e r Banks

Loans of weekly reporting member banks increased by
180 million dollars or 20 percent to a total of 1,103 million
during the period, September 8 to October 6. Loans for
purchasing or carrying securities increased 63 million
dollars during the four weeks to total 93 million on
October 6. A considerable portion of these loans was
probably made for the purchase of Government securities.
The only other increase of some magnitude occurred in
commercial, industrial, and agricultural loans, which in­
creased by 60 million dollars to total 520 million. During
the same period, investments of reporting member banks
rose by 244 million dollars or 7 percent to 3,635 million.
Increased holdings of Treasury bills and certificates of
indebtedness accounted for two-thirds of the increase.
In the subsequent two weeks, loans declined slightly,
but investments of reporting member banks increased
further by 315 million dollars. This increase was largely
the result of allotments of the issues of % percent certifi­
cates of indebtedness and 2 percent bonds offered by the
Treasury for cash subscription to commercial banks only.

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S u m m a ry o f N a tio n a l B u sin ess C o n d itio n s
Released Septem ber 22, 1943— B oard o f G o v e rn o rs o f the F ed era l R eserve System

n d u s tr ia l

activity and war expenditures were maintained in August at a high level.

I Commodity prices showed little change. Retail trade continued in large volume.
I n d u s t r ia l P r o d u c t io n

IN D U S T R IA L P R O D U C T IO N
F ederal R eserve m onthly index o f physical volum e
o f produ ction , adjusted fo r seasonal variation,
1935-39 average = 100 fo r total. G ro u p s are ex­
pressed in terms o f points in the total index.
M on th ly figures, latest show n are fo r A u gust.

D E P A R T M E N T ST O R E SA LE S A N D STO CK S
Federal R eserve m onthly indexes o f value o f sales
and stock s, adjusted for seasonal variation, 1923-25
average = 100. M on th ly figures, latest shown are
fo r A u gust.

Output of manufactures and minerals showed little change in August and the Board’s
seasonally adjusted total index of industrial production remained at the July level.
Production of durable manufactures increased. Output of iron and steel continued to
advance and reached the peak levels achieved earlier this year. There were further slight
increases in activity at war plants in the transportation equipment industries. Output of
other durable products showed little change.
Production of nondurable goods declined in August, reflecting further decreases in
output of textile, leather, and food products. Cotton consumption in August was about
15 percent lower than the same period a year ago and was at the lowest level since the
beginning of 1941. Leather output has also declined in recent months and is currently
close to prewar levels. Activity at meat-packing plants showed the usual seasonal de­
cline in August but preliminary figures indicate that output was about one-fifth larger
than a year ago. Output of most other manufactured foods declined somewhat further.
Production of petroleum, coke, and rubber products continued to advance in August
while chemical production showed little change. Production of crude petroleum con­
tinued to rise and in August was in the largest volume on record. Lake shipments of
iron ore likewise reached a record level. Production of coal and metals was maintained
in large volume.
D i s t r ib u t i o n
Department store sales continued large in August and the first half of September.
Increases during this period were less than seasonal, however, following maintenance of
sales at a comparatively high level during July. For the year to date value of sales at
department stores has been about 13 percent greater than in the corresponding period
last year, reflecting in part price increases. Inventories at department stores have in­
creased in recent months and are now somewhat higher than at the beginning of this
year, indicating that receipts of new merchandise have been in excess of the value of
goods sold. Total carloadings were maintained in large volume during August and the
first half of September. Shipments of grain showed a less than seasonal decline from
the peak reached in July and were one-fifth larger than August a year ago.
C o m m o d it y P rices

The general level of wholesale commodity prices continued to show little change in
August and the early part of September. Prices of lumber and newsprint were in­
creased, while prices of fruits and vegetables showed further seasonal declines.
In retail food markets prices of apples and fresh vegetables decreased further from
mid-July to mid-August. The Bureau of Labor Statistics cost of living index declined
one-half of one percent as decreases in foods were partly offset by small increases in
retail prices of other goods and services.
A g r ic u l tu r e

General crop prospects declined slightly in August according to official reports. The
forecast for corn production was raised by 3 percent to almost 3 billion bushels, while
prospects for other feed crops declined. Production of cotton indicated on September 1
was 11.7 million bales as compared with a crop of 12.8 million last season. Milk produc­
tion in August was estimated to be 2 percent smaller than output a year ago, while
marketing of most other livestock products continued in larger volume than last year.
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In mid-September excess reserves of member banks rose sharply to about 2 billion
dollars from the average level of about 1.1 billion which had prevailed in the latter part
of August and early in September. This increase was due in part to the fact that the
Treasury was making disbursements out of temporary borrowing from Reserve banks on
special certificates in anticipation of tax collections and receipts from the Third War Loan
Drive. It also reflected in part a substantial decrease in required reserves at the middle of
the month when funds from individual and corporate deposits were transferred to Gov­
ernment loan accounts which are not subject to reserve requirements. During the four
weeks ended September 15 the Reserve System holdings in Government securities in­
creased by about 1 billion dollars in addition to the special certificates taken directly
from the Treasury. Most of the increase was in the form of Treasury bills sold to the
Reserve banks with sellers retaining the option to repurchase. Over this four-week period
currency in circulation increased by about 560 million dollars to a total of 18.8 billion
outstanding.
In the last two weeks of August and the first week of September, reporting member
banks in 101 leading cities showed a net decline in security holdings as a result of the
sale of bills to the Reserve System. In the week ending September 15, however, some
non-banking holders sold securities to the banks in anticipation of purchases during the
Drive, and bank holdings also increased through repurchase of bills from the Reserve
System. Commercial loans which had expanded by 100 million dollars in July and in
August, increased by 250 million during the week ending September 15. This increase
in commercial loans was shared by both New York and other reporting member banks.
In the week ending the 15th, loans to brokers and dealers in New York City increased
370 million dollars, most of which was for purchasing and carrying Government securi­
ties, and there was also an increase in loans on securities to others.