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BANKERS' CONVENTION SECTION OF THE COMMERCIAL & FINANCIAL CHRONICLE. COMPANY,in office of Librarian of Congress. righted in 1922 according to Act of Congress by WILLIAM B.DANA 00W- Vol. 115. NEW YORK, OCTOBER 21, 1922 Washington,DO. No. 2991. the American Bankers Association did high service g through defining the principles at stake, clearin THE CHRONICLE. the issues, placing beaway political perversion of newspaper The Commercial and Financial Chronicle is a weekly mail every Saturday hind the policy thereby indicated the full force of enat 144 to 160 pages, published in time for the earliest its own corremorning, with the latest news by telegraph and cable from lightened banking opinion, and thus bringing the spondents relating to the various matters within its scope. ts. e comprises a number of added Sections or Supplemen The Chronicl matter so sharply into the foreground that public valuable adjuncts of the Issued periodically, and which form exceedingly opinion generally could grasp the salient facts. weekly issues. a year. is furnished The Railway and Industrial Section, issued twice When that had been accomplished, action could not the Chronicle. without extra charge to every annual subscriber of longer be postponed merely through ignorance, miscontaining the sworn The Railway Earnings Section, issued monthly, expenses, filed each month with the Inter-State returns of earnings and understanding or a disposition to let the matter extra charge to every anCommerce Commission. is also furnished without drift. nual subscriber. a year, is also furnished The Electric Railway Section, issued twice We are inclined to believe that this year's Bankers' of the Commercial and without extra charge to every annual subscriber Convention has achieved this purpose in the matter Financial Chronicle. is also furnished The State and City Section, issued semi-annually, of the financial relations of the United States to . without extra charge to every subscriber of the Chronicle Is likewise fur- Europe. The choice of that question as the central The Bank and Quotation Section, issued monthly. the Chronicle. aished without extra charge to every subscriber of theme of the Convention's discussion was wise; but time to time, like Besides these Supplements, others are published from it was also inevitable if the traditions of the Assothe present Bankers' Convention Section. are Ten Dollars Terms for the Chronicle, Including all the Supplements, ciation were observed. For that question is beyond (which includes within the United States, Thirteen and a halt Dollars a half Dollars in Canada. dispute the vital and outstanding economic problem postage) in Europe, and Eleven and WILLIAM B. DANA COMPANY, Publishers, of the period; yet it is the problem of all others the Front, Pine and Depeyster Streets, New York. popular comprehension of which has suffered most from unwillingness to grapple with facts, inability INDEX TO ADVERTISEMENTS. to understand their financial significance, and the in the tendency to postpone through mere perplexity or A complete index to the advertisements appearing Convention Section will be inertia any decision in the matter. present issue of the Bankers' found on pages 93 and 94. What the German reparations question is to Europe, the questions of the indebtedness of our recent allies to our Treasury and of our general attitude THE CONVENTION AND THE EUROPEAN toward Europe, are to the United States. Our GovPROBLEM. ernment has got no further than to appoint a Debt under the Act of last February, The conventions of the American Bankers Associa- Commission, which, refunding these *11,000,000,000 tion have in one particular aspect been notable occa- is to arrange for obligations into loans maturing not sions in the financial history of the times, in that Governmental 4 bearing not less than 41 % in. each annual gathering has devoted its attention later than 1947 and finan- terest. The questions whether all the eleven Governfrankly and unhesitatingly to the uppermost time obligations our Treasury holds cial problem of the day; listening to addresses on ments whose warLoan Act—including not only that subject by the best qualified public or private under the Liberty , Italy and Belgium, but Cuba, Ruexperts and in the end declaring through formal res- England, France lovakia, Russia, Serbia and Greece— olution the attitude of the great body of responsible mania, Czechos able to meet even the interest payAmerican bankers on the question. The Bankers As- are financially how that payment should in any case sociation has thus in the past taken its position on ment, and as to ed, was practically left unconsidered in the the specie resumption controversy and the greenback be arrang Congressional debate. craze, on the controversy over free silver coinage and It was not to be expected that the Bankers' Conbimetallism, on the question of reform in our later a body, or any speaker at its meetings, banking and currency system and on the project for vention as would present the solution of the problems created the Federal Reserve. sequel to the war. It was not possible, in so Each of these considerations was at the time the by this rly complicated a question, that any one foremost financial issue of the day; in publicly and peculia propose, in advance of much closer study of emphatically declaring its position on each of them, should 92 BANKERS' CONVENTION. the matter in all its details, a concrete, comprehenIn the end, after other discussions of the matter sive and uniform program for dealing with them. and a vote by the Nation al Bank Division favoring a The most that enlightened and experienced finan- conference betwee n the United States and the Eurociers could reasonably do in approaching such a pean States regard ing the general question, the Consituation was to set forth the facts, state the alter- vention itself adopte d the following striking resonatives and enunciate general policies. To the dis- lution: cussions of the matter in its various aspects, three "We call attention again to the seriousness of the notable speeches in the recent Convention were deforeign situation, especially of Europe, which is afvoted. Thomas W. Lamont urged with great positiveness fecting detrimentally our own conditions and preand cogent reasoning, that we "decide which of these venting even those industries in our country which are not dependent upon foreign trade from recoverdebtors are good in part but must be given ample ing fully from the depression which otherwise would time to pay—far longer, perhaps, than twenty-five be rapidly disappe aring. years." He urged the careful consideration of the "There is no possibility of a healthy and normal question whether insistence on early payment of situation in this country until•the nations with whom these debts "is going to prove an asset or a liability we trade are able to pay us for what they import. for American business." Mr. Reginald McKenna, As this can be done in the main only by the means of late Chancellor of the British Exchequer and now exports to us, we trust that the President will not Chairman of the London City & Midland Bank, be- hesitate to make use of the power granted him by the new, tariff law to make such adjustments in the gan by declaring frankly that England proposed to schedul es as may be necessary from pay her war debts to the United States Treasury. a restoration of our international time to time for commerce. That she "has the ability to pay," that "her deter"We believe that the time has come for the Governmination to honor her bond in full" can be positively ment of our country to formulate the principles on asserted, and that the American banking community which it will be able to co-operate with other nations may "treat England's debt to the United States as to bring about the needed rehabilitation of European certain to be provided for," were statements which countries and peace in the world. "To this end we urge the Administration to conthemselves cleared away much of the fog of suspicion sider the advisability of promptly making its repreand misunderstanding created by the Balfour note sentative upon the Reparations Commission an offiand its confusing suggestions that England might cial of that body we also recommend to Congress not be able to consider paying her Governmental ob- that there be granted to the Debt Funding Commisligations to America unless France paid hers to Eng- sion such further powers as will enable it to negotiate more effectively with the foreign nations now debtors land. But Mr. McKenna also pointed out that England's of the United States." ability to make these payments, through the machinIt will be observed that neither this resolution nor ery of foreign exchange, was due to her comman d- any of the speeches before the Convention recoming position as the largest European trading nation mended a policy of cancellation. It is, in fact, the and the largest holder of foriegn investment securiadvocacy of that somewhat sweeping policy, on ties. What England could do in this regard might grounds more emotional than economic or political, be a matter of practical impossibility with other which has heretofore served mostly to obscure the States indebted to our Treasury which did not pos- true facts of the situation. The speeches whicIP we sess such facilities for the transfer of capital. None have cited and the Convention's resolution are the of them, he believed, is in a condition to meet that words of practical men, dealing with the practical indebtedness out of hand. "In the existing condition aspects of an immensely important subject whose of Europe a definite postponement of any payment consideration cannot safely be deferred. That they by them is desirable in the interest of all parties," outline no specific policy, suggest no specific statute, and while an attempt to force payment beyond such is recognition of the fact that the case of each sepdebtors' power would be futile in itself, it would also arate debt and of each separate debtor ought to be inevitably be "injurious to the trade of the world." considered on its separate merits, after favoring as Looking at the whole problem in its larger aspects, a general princip le the adoption of measures which Mr. Thomas B. McAdams in his speech as President will deal with facts as they exist and will distinguish of the Association, asked forcibly if the time had not the economically possible from the economically imarrived "for the United States to cast aside her pol- possible. It is through the insisting on this commonicy of aloofness and throw herself whole-heartedly sense program that the Bankers' Convention has into the situation" which exists in Europe and as be- rendere d a public service which we believe should tween Europe and ourselves, in order that "a cure have import ant consequences not only in its effect on for social disorder and financial demoralization may public opinion, but in the shaping of the Governbe speedily devised." ment's future action in the matter. INDEX TO ADVERTISEMENTS Otis & Co 62 AMSTERDAM, HOLLAND. de Bary (H. Albert) & Co Rotterdamsche Bankvereeniging 81 75 ANTWERP, BELGIUM. Banque de Commerce 74 ATLANTA, GA. Fourth National Bank 55 BALTIMORE, MD. Baltimore Trust Co Continental Trust Co Converse (A. D.) & Co Fidelity Trust Co Hambleton & Co Leach (A. B.) & Co., Inc Maryland Trust Co National Exchange Bank Redmond 8c Co _ Safe Deposit & Trust Co 52 34 40 53 7 14 54 52 22 53 BAYONNE, N. J. Mechanics Trust Co 44 BIRMINGHAM, ALA. Birmingham Trust & Savings Co Caldwell & Co 55 54 BOSTON, MASS. 61 Allyn (A. C.) & Co 40 Bond & Goodwin 12 Brown Bros. 8c Co 26 Childs (C. F.) 8c Co 85 Coffin & Burr 40 Curtis & Sanger Outside Back Cover Estabrook & Co 84 Fourth-Atlantic National Bank 29 Goldman, Sachs & Co 40 Hathaway, Smith, Folds & Co 20 Hayden, Stone & Co 33 Hornblower & Weeks 84 Hotchkin & Co 85 International Trust Co 36 James (Thomas M.) Company 90 Kidder, Peabody & Co 14 Co., Inc Leach (A. B.) & 2 Lee, Higginson & Co 84 National Shawmut Bank 62 Otis & Co 199 Stone & Webster BROOKLYN, N. Y. First National Bank Kings County Trust Co Nassau National Bank 42 42 42 BUFFALO, N. Y. Harriman (W. A.) & Co Leach (A. 13.) & Co., Inc Marine Trust Co 23 14 82 CALGARY, CANADA. Wheelwright (M. S.) & Co 69 CAMDEN, N. J. Camden Safe Deposit & Trust 45 CANTON, CHINA. 86 Asia Banking Corporation 77 Bank of Canton Chinese Merchants' Bank of Hong Kong 78 CHATTANOOGA, TENN. Hamilton National Bank Caldwell & Co 51 54 CHICAGO, ILL. 61 Allyn (A. C.) & Co 65 Ames (A. E.) & Co 60 Co Becker (A. G.) & 40 Goodwin Bond & 54 Caldwell 8c Co 26 Childs (C. F.) & Co 60 Cooper, Stitt & Co Corn Exchange National Bank, Cover Inside Back 40 Curtis & Sanger 29 Co Goldman, Sachs & 6 Hallgarten & Co 61 Hanchett Bond Co 23 Harriman (W. A.) & Co 40 Hathaway, Smith, Folds & Co 60 Holtz (H. T.) & Co 33 Hornblower & Weeks 14 Leach (A. B.) & Co., Inc 2 Lee, Higginson & Co 198 Sanderson 8c Porter 199 Stone & Webster 87 Tobey & Kirk Page. Page. Page. AKRON, OHIO. CINCINNATI, OHIO. Caldwell & Co Dominick & Dominick Otis & Co 54 39 62 CLEVELAND, OHIO. Hathaway, Smith, Folds & Co Leach (A. B.) & Co., Inc Midland Bank Otis & Co 40 14 62 62 COLORADO SPRINGS, COLO. Otis & Co 62 COLUMBUS, OHIO. Otis & Co 62 DENVER, COLO. Boettcher, Porter & Co Otis & Co 63 62 DETROIT, MICH. Caldwell & Co C tilds (C. F.) & Co Hanchett Bond Co Harris, Small & Lawson Hornblower 8c Weeks Leach (A. B.) & Co., Inc National Bank of Commerce Otis & Co Union Trust Co 54 26 61 59 38 14 58 62 59 FORT WORTH, TEX. Fort Worth National Bank 64 GRAND RAPIDS, MICH. Michigan Trust Co 59 GUAYAQUIL, ECUADOR. Banco de Descuento 79 HANKOW, CHINA. Asia Banking Corporation 86 HARTFORD, CONN. Outside Back Cover Estabrook & Co 85 Hartford Aetna National Bank HOBOKEN, N. J. First National Bank of Hoboken 44 HOLLYWOOD, CAL. Hunter, Dulin & Co 63 HONGKONG, CHINA. 86 Asia Banking Corporation Chinese Merchants' Bank of Hong Kong 78 Hongkong & Shanghai Banking Corp'n_ 76 HOUSTON, TEXAS. First National Bank 64 JERSEY CITY, N. J. Commercial Trust Co. of New Jersey_... 45 43 First National Bank . KNOXVILLE, TENN. Caldwell & Co 54 LONDON, ENGLAND. 74 Anglo-South American Bank 80 Banco Commerciale Italiana 77 Bank of Taiwan, Ltd 73 Barclays Bank 12 Brown, Shipley & Co 66 Canadian Bank of Commerce Chartered Bank of India, Australia & China 78 74 Deacon's (Williams) Bank 68 Dominion Securities Corporation Co. of New York 5 Equitable Trust 29 Empire Trust Co 6 Hallgarten & Co 2 Higginson & Co 87 Huth (Fred'k) & Co. 79 International Banking Corporation 30 LazArd Bros. & Co 72 Lloyds Bank, Ltd & Midland Bank 73 London Joint City 71 Mercantile Bank of India, Ltd 9 Morgan, Grenfell & Co 70 National Bank of India, Ltd 72 Union Bank of Australia 41 Wood, Gundy & Co 76 Yokohama Specie Bank LOS ANGELES, CAL. 60 Becker (A. G.) & Co 29 Goldman, Sachs & Co 63 Hunter-Dulin & Co 64 Staats (William R.) Co LOUISVILLE, KY. Fidelity & Columbia Trust Co MANILA, P. I. Asia Banking Corporation 54 86 MEXICO CITY, MEXICO, Canadian Bank of Commerce Equitable Trust Co. of New York 66 5 MILAN, ITALY. Banca Commerciale Italiana 80 MILWAUKEE. Allyn 'A. C.) & Co First Wisconsin National Bank 61 62 MINNEAPOLIS, MINN. Allyn (A. C.) & Co Bond & Goodwin Hathaway, Smith, Folds & Co Leach (A. B.) & Co., Inc 61 40 40 14 MONTREAL, CANADA. Ames (A. E.) & Co Dominion Securities Corporation Molsons Bank (The) Royal Bank of Canada Sterling Bond Corporation Sutro Bros & Co Union Bank of Canada Wheelwright (M. S.) 8c Co., Ltd Wood, Gundy & Co 65 68 69 67 65 87 65 69 41 MORRISTOWN, N. J. Morristown Trust Co 44 NASHVILLE, TENN. Caldwell & Co 54 NEW BEDFORD, MASS. Outside Back Cover Estabrook & Co NEWARK, N. J. Clark, Dodge 8c Co National Newark & Essex Banking Co 10 43 Co NEW ORLEANS, LA. Caldwell & Marine Bank 8c Trust Co Whitney-Central Banks_ 54 55 55 NEW YORK CITY. 41 Aldred 8c Co 61 Allyn (A. C.) & Co 35 Trust Co American 65 Ames (A. E.) & Co 74 Anglo-South American Bank 86 Asia Banking Corporation 195 Associated Bankers Corporation 80 Banca Commerciale Italiana 81 Banco di Roma 30 Bank of America 77 Bank of Canton 86 Bank of Central & South America 17 Bank of Manhattan Co 11 Bank of New York & Trust Co 77 Bank of Taiwan, Ltd 42 Bank of United States 13 Bankers Trust Co 73 Bank Barclays 39 Barney (Chas. D.) 8c Co 193 Barstow (W. S.) & Co 60 Becker (A. G.) & Co 39 Bertron, Griscom 8c Co 40 Bond & Goodwin 12 Brown Brothers & Co 54 & Co Caldwell 66 Canadian Bank of Commerce Chartered Bank of India, Australia & 78 China 34 Chatham & Phenix National Bank 89 Chemical National Bank 26 Childs (C. F.) 8c Co Chinese Merchants' Bank of Hong Kong_ 78 10 Clark, Dodge & Co 37 Coal & Iron National Bank 85 Coffin & Burr 1 Coggeshall & Hicks 24 Commerce, National Bank of 40 Converse (A. D.) & Co 31 Corn Exchange Bank 40 Curtis & Sanger 25 Discount Corporation of New York 37 Doherty (Henry L.) & Co 39 Dominick 8c Dominick 43 Dunham & Co 29 Empire Trust Co 5. Equitable Trust Company of New York Outside Back Cover Estabrook & Co 27 Ewen (Wm. Carnegie) 41 Farlee (J. S.) & Co 19 Farmers' Loan & Trust Co 38 Finch & Tarbell 35 Garfield National Bank__ 29 Goldman, Sachs & Co Guaranty Trust Company of New York_ _194 04 INDEX TO ADVERTISEMENTS—Concluded. Page. Hallgarten & Co 6 Hambleton & Co 7 Hanchett Bond Co 61 Harriman (W. A.) & Co 23 Hartshorne & Battelle 35 Hathaway, Smith, Folds & Co 40 Hayden,Stone & Co 20 Heidelbach, Ickelheimer & Co 31 Hongkong & Shanghai Banking Corp 76 Hornblower & Weeks 38 Huth & Co 87 Importers' & Traders' National Bank 200 International Acceptance Bank 32 International Banking Corporation 79 Irving National Bank 33 Italian Discount & Trust Co 81 James (Thomas M.) Company 36 Kidder (A. M.) & Co 41 Kidder, Peabody & Co 90 Langley (W. C.) 8c Co 3 Lazard Freres 30 Leach (A. B.) 8c Co., Inc 14 Lee, Higginson & Co 2 Maitland, Coppell & Co 195 McMillin (Emerson) & Co 38 Mechanics & Metals National Bank 21 Mercantile Bank of India 71 Metropolitan Trust Co 28 Morgan (J. P.) & Co 9 Munroe (John) & Co 32 National Bank of Commerce 24 National City Company 8 New York & Pennsylvania Joint Stock Land Bank 37 Noiseless Typewriter Co 197 Otis & Co 62 Quincey (Chas. E.) & Co 4 Redmond & Co 22 Rotterdamsche Bankvereeniging 75 Royal Bank of Canada 67 Sanderson & Porter 198 Scholl (Wm.) & Co 39 Seaboard National Bank 15 Smith (Edward B.) 8c Co 1 Smithers (F. S.) & Co 33 Speyer 8c Co 18 State Bank 36 Stone & Webster 199 Sutro Bros. & Co 87 Tobey 8c Kirk 87 Underwood Typewriter Co 196 Union Bank of Canada 65 United States Mortgage & Trust Co 28 United States Trust Co 16 Winslow, Lanier 8c Co 200 Wood, Gundy 8c Co 41 NORFOLK, VA. National Bank of Commerce 51 OAKLAND, CAL. Hunter, Dulin & Co 63 OKLAHOMA CITY, OKLA. Hanchett Bond Co 61 86 PHILADELPHIA, PA. Barney (Chas. D.) 8c Co 39 Bertron, Griscom & Co 39 Bodine, Sons & Co 49 Bond & Goodwin 40 Brown Brothers & Co 12 Coffin & Burr 85 Commercial Trust Co 47 Converse (A. D.) 8c Co 40 Drexel & Co 9 Fidelity Trust Co 50 Fourth Street National Bank 49 Girard Trust Co Inside Front Cover Goldman, Sachs & Co 29 Guarantee Trust & Safe Deposit Co 48 Ham'Aeton & Co 7 Hanchett Bond Co 61 Harper 8c Turner 49 Harriman (W. A.) & Co 23 Hathaway, Smith, Folds & Co 40 Land Title & Trust Co 47 Leach (A. B.) & Co., Inc 14 Pennsylvania Co. for Insurances on Lives, &c Inside Front Cover Philadelphia Trust Co 50 Real Estate Trust Co 46 Real Estate Title Insurance 8c Trust Co_ 48 Redmond & Co 22 Reilly, Brock & Co 48 Smith (Edward B.) & Co 1 Third National Bank 47 PITTSBURGH, PA. Bank of Pittsburgh, N. A Childs (C. F.) & Co First National Bank Hathaway, Smith, Folds & Co Leach (A B.) 8c Co., Inc Masten (A. E.) & Co Redmond & Co Union Trust Co 57 26 57 40 14 57 22 56 PLAINFIELD, N. J. Plainfield Trust Co PORTLAND, ME. Coffin & Burr Hayden, Stone & Co Hornblower & Weeks 85 20 38 PORTLAND, ORE. Canadian Bank of Commerce Hathaway, Smith, Folds & Co 66 40 PROVIDENCE, R. I. Estabrook & Co • Outside Back Cover Hornblower & Weeks 38 Kidder, Peabody 8c Co 90 81 ROTTERDAM, !TOLLAND. Rotterdamsche Barilcvereeniging 75 63 64 ST. LOUIS, MO. Becker (A. G.) & Co Caldwell & Co Childs (C. F.) & Co Goldman, Sachs & Co Hanchett Bond Co Hathaway, Smith, Folds & Co National Bank of Commerce 60 54 26 29 61 40 61 45 SAIGON, CHINA. Chinese Merchants Bank of Hong Kong_78 75 5 30 32 9 63 64 SAN FRANCISCO, CAL. 60 Becker (A. G.) & Co 66 Canadian Bank of Commerce 29 Goldman, Sachs & Co 40 Hathaway, Smith, Folds & Co Hong Kong & Shanghai Banking Corp- 76 63 Hunter, Dulin & Co International Banking Corporation 79 Sanderson & Porter 198 64 Staats (William R.) Co SANTA BARBARA, CAL. Hunter, Dulin & Co 63 SCRANTON, PA. Haper 8c Turner Hathaway, Smith, Folds & Co 49 40 SEATTLE, WASH. Becker (A. G.) & Co Canadian Bank of Commerce Goldman, Sachs & Co Hathaway, Smith, Folds & Co 60 66 29 40 SINGAPORE, CHINA. Asia Banking Corporation 86 SHANGHAI, CHINA. Asia Banking Corporation 86 Bank of Canton 77 Chinese Merchants Bank of Hong Kong_78 SPRINGFIELD, MASS. Estabrook & Co Outside Back Cover Hayden, Stone & Co 20 Springfield National Bank 83 Tifft Brothers 85 SYRACUSE, N. Y. Harriman (W. A.) & Co Salt Springs National Bank 23 83 TAIWAN, JAPAN. Bank of Taiwan, Ltd 77 THE HAGUE, HOLLAND. Rotterdamsche Bankvereeniging 75 TIENTSIN, CHINA. Asia Banking Corporation 86 TOLEDO, OHIO. Otis & Co ROME, ITALY. Banco di Roma 74 13 80 Page. SAN DIEGO, CAL. Hunter, Dulin 8c Co Stoats(Wm. R.) Co 45 54 40 69 32 PEKIN, CHINA. Asia Banking Corporation RICHMOND, VA. First National Bank Hathaway, Smith, Folds 8c Co 63 PASSAIC, N. J. Passaic National Bank & Trust Co Munroe & Co 49 OTTAWA, CANADA. Wheelwright (M. S.) & Co PASADENA, CAL. Hunter, Dulin & Co Staats (William R.) Co 44 PAU, FRANCE. READING, PA. Harper & Turner OMAHA, NEB. Omaha National Bank PARIS, FRANCE. Anglo-South American Bank Bankers Trust Co Banque Holland-Americaine Banque Francaise De L'Afrique Equatoriale Equitable Trust Co. of New York Lazard Freres & Cie Munroe & Co Morgan, Hanes & Co Page. PATERSON, N. J. Paterson National Bank 62 TORONTO, CANADA. Ames (A. E.) & Co Canadian Bank of Commerce Dominion Securities Co Housser, Wood & Co Union Bank of Canada Wood, Gundy & Co 65 66 68 69 65 41 UTICA, N. Y. Utica Safe Deposit & Trust Co VANCOUVER, CANADA. Union Bank of Canada VICTORIA, CANADA, Ames (A. E.) & Co WASHINGTON, D. C. Hambleton & Co Redmond & Co Washington Loan & Trust Co WHEELING, W. VA. Masten (A. E.) & Co WILMINGTON, DEL. duPont (E. I.) de Nemours 8c Co WINNIPEG, CANADA. Union Bank of Canada Wood, Gundy & Co WORCESTER, MASS. Worcester Bank & Trust Co YOKOHAMA, JAPAN. Yokohama Specie Bank, Ltd YOUNGSTOWN, OHIO. Otis & Co 82 65 65 22 51 57 88 65 41 83 76 62 F SCTION HANKING/ 4 AMERICAN BANKERS' ASSOCIATION 48th Annual Convention, Held at New York City, October 2 to 5, 1922. INDEX TO GENERAL CONVENTION PROCEEDINGS. The American Banker's Responsibility, Thomas W. Lamont_Page 95 Reparations and International Debts, Rt. Hon. R. 99 McKenna The Responsibility of Government for Industrial Justice, 104 Governor Henry J. Allen 103 Public Health Assets, Dr. George E. Vincent 111 Industrial and Trade Conditions, Fred I. Kent 114 Annual Address of President Thomas B. McAdams 115 Report of Executive Council and Administrative Committee_ 115 Report of the Committee on State Taxation 116 Report of the Committee on State Legislation 117 Report of the Committee on Federal Legislation 119 Report of the American Institute of Banking 119 Report of State Seck etaries Section 119 of the Clearing Houses Report 120 Report of the Trust Company Division 120 Report of the Savings Bank Division 121 Report of the National Bank Division Page 121 Report of the State Bank Division 121 Report of Committee on Public Education 122 Annual Report of the Insurance Committee 122 Report of Agricultural Commission 124 Report of the Commerce and Marine Commission 125 Branch Banking 130 Report of Committee of Five on Par Collections 130 Report of Membership Committee 130 Report of the Public Relations Commission 130 Report of Economic Policy Commission 131 Remarks of Myron T. Herrick, U. S. Ambassador to France 131 Telegram from President Harding 132 Greetings from Andrew W. Mellon, Secretary U. S. Treasury 132 Remarks of Sir Frederick Williams-Taylor 132 Report of Committee on Resolutions 133 Amendments to Constitution of A. B. A 133 Report of Nominating Committee 133 Installation of Officers The American Banker's Responsibility By THOMAS W. LAMONT, of J. P. Morgan & Co. As Chairman of the local Reception Committee and in behalf of New York's bankers and citizens generally, I bid you welcome to this city. We want you to feel that New York City is your city—not for this convention week alone, but for all time. For we would have you believe with us, once and for all, that New York is not local to the Atlantic seaboard, but is countrywide in its interests, in its achievements, in its attachments. There exists in this country to-day far too much in the way of sectional feeling—a feeling which if not tempered by more intimate intercourse and common experience means disunity for our country. To prevent any such unfortunate tendency is the part of all of us. New York is not made up of a citizenship separated by some mysterious distinction from the rest of the country. On the contrary, it is composed largely of men and women from every locality in the four quarters of America. Except for its size, it might be any other great American city. Broadway is another name for Main Street. Let me tell you in a word how we in New York feel. We feel that we have a share equal with you all in the life and the ambitions of our country from the Atlantic to Pacific. We have the same satisfactions, the same pride as you in the great manufactures and the wonderful agriculture of the Mississippi Valley, in the cotton fields of the South, in the wheat prairies of the Northwest, in the rugged grandeur of the Rockies and Sierras, in the fertility, the color, the charm of the Pacific Slope. These great resources, the common inheritance of us all, which your boundless energy and capacity have developed to the benefit of the world, command our admiration and our gratitude. In the same way do you all share.deeply in whatever this City of New York possesses in the way of fine tradition, of character, of enterprise and accomplishment. Whatever it has builded for the stability and security of our country, you have had a share in that building. Whatever it has accomplished in the less material things of life, in music, letters and the arts, to such accomplishment, I say, you have contributed generously and in a portion that could never have been spared. Therefore it is that we would have you feel that New York belongs to the country and the country to New York. Therefore it is that we would have you return here, time after time, members with us of a closely joined family, sympathetic in understanding, close in aspiration, warm in mutual affection. Domestic Business Conditions. Our President here has asked me to say something about American business to-day, both domestic-wise and as it is affected by conditions abroad. As to the domestic situation by itself, there would appear to be little cause for conflicting views. We seem to be well into the final stage which, as the records of decades show, marks the end of one business cycle or the beginning of a new one. I hardly have to recall to you the successive stages of our business triumphs and our trials. First, was the end-of-the-war phase of huge demands for commodities of all kinds, of swiftly mounting prices, of constantly expanding business and accompanying inflation. Second, came the storm signals, namely, the heavy drop in security values in the last half of 1919. Third, came the swift fall in commodity prices, not in America alone but all over the world—a fall that would have spelled disaster to American business had it not been for the sagacity and cour. age of you bankers here before me, backed up by the Federal Reserve System with a fine common-sense Southern banker at the head of it, Governor Harding of the Federal Reserve Board! Fourth, in this cycle, came finally the ease in money its which denoted the flattening of prices with business on summer back. That easing of money became marked in the cyof 1921, and now, as has been the case in other business a twelv-month of easy money, begun cles, we have, after buffets clearly to move forward again. We have had rude But American business has at last, with and deep wounds. characteristic courage, bound up Its bruises and is slowly moving on to new goals. not Yet, despite clearing skies and fair weather, we have unbounded confidence. We must not forget yet cause for 96 BANKERS' CONVENTION. that, before the race is won, we still have some hurdles to jump. What are some of these hurdles? Our farmers would tell us that a chief one is the low price prevailing for farm products. They say, "Yes, this is a big season for crops, but' our net money gain will be small." You know what the figures show, but here is the estimated comparison between our crops last year and this: Wheat Corn Oats 7 cereals Cotton 1922. 818,000,000 bushels 9,875,000,000 " 1,255,000,000 " 5,274,000,000 " 10,600,000 bales 1921. 795,000,000 bushels 3,080,000,000 " 1,061,000,000 " 5,195,000,000 " 8,000,000 bales I shan't attempt to argue the point of lower prices; but I never knew any country to "go broke" because of its abundant crops. So, even though our farmers suffer disappointment, I think the low price hurdle is the easiest one to jump. The farmers had high prices in 1919 and 1920, but the aftermath was a serious one for them. In the long run they, like all of us, will fare better on a moderate price scale, with small fluctuations. dent Harding's ringing veto of the bill has created such a feeling of relief in the community. The tariff measure is of a somewhat different order. We shall be fortunate indeed if we do not find that in practice it protects a lot of industries that do not require protection, and cuts off from our farmers and manufacturers a lot of foreign markets that are ready to buy our commodities. Many of our people still fail to realize that the word "trade" means, in the final analysis, an exchange of goods or services. Many of us still cling to the idea that international trade, as the term applies to America, means that we can sell freely to all the markets of the world and in turn need buy from them little or nothing. This theory, which seems to be the basis of much of our tariff legislation, will, if pursued, surely wreck a big part of our foreign trade. If there is any one motto which American producers and legislators should learn by heart, it is that oft-repeated one of the British merchants, who, over a century ago, declared that "He who will not buy, neither shall he sell." Now, let us cast our eyes across the ocean, and see if we can derive any comfort from that situation. With war and rumors of war, with the Turk—the "Sick Man of Europe," suddenly alive and kicking the Greeks all around the lot, with Russia, Germany and Austria what they are, with Ireland still in a ferment, we may well wonder what end is in sight. Yet, to say that Europe has "gone all to pot," or in fact to give vent to broad generalizations about Europe, is very dangerous. On the surface, yes, things look about as bad as they could. But you bankers, when you are sizing up a customer, look far beyond his mere written statement. You take into consideration his character, his life-long record and many other factors not plainly visible. So in any size-up of Europe we must take into account the invisible factors. And I say to you that these invisible forces are saving Europe today. Politically, Europe may be in the doldrums or worse; but economically (though many people may disagree on this point) I, for one, believe that Europe is on the mend. The Problem of Labor and Capital. What other hurdles have we to leap in our race for prosperity? Certainly our labor strikes form one, and a big one at that, even though the worst may now seem to be over. We all say that we deplore these wretched struggles, yet the extent of our regret must be measured by our endeavor to prevent their recurrence; by our attempt to reconcile the conflicting views. As bearing upon this situation, I ask you, who are so influential in counselling large men of business, to remember that in this country there are still traces of arrogance among employers, as there are manifest signs of arrogance in labor. Yet the employer has even less excuse for arrogance than the laborer. The high wages of the war and of the years just after had, not unnaturaly, a somewhat "spoiling" effect upon labor. They gave labor the feeling that it must always share in the prosperity—never in the adversity of business. I deplore that feeling; yet I beg to remind you here that that feeling of labor, in so far as it was directed to the improvement of living conditions, to the gainInvisible Forces Saving Europe. ing of a little leisure, and of the time to play and be happy, What are these invisible forces that, I maintain, are so was wholly right and to the advantage of the community. great as more than to offset the visible and unfortunate facFrom such men as you, such ambitions on the part of labor, tors in the European situation? The first of them is producmoderately and wisely directed, should have every possible tivity. Those forces that for almost five years were given encouragement. over to the killing of men,are now being devoted to the growThe problem of capital and of labor will never be wholly ing of crops, to the making of goods. Second, trade is on the worked out. People talk as if it were an example in arith- increase; not only as to Great Britain, the traditional mermetic, capable of a final solution. It is no such thing. It is chant of the world, which is already well on her feet, but as • a problem of human beings: therefore, of emotions, grop- to the whole continent of Europe, even including Russia. ings, longings and ambitions. We can meet it only little by England has, since 1919, paid off £275,000,00 0 of her external little, and only then if we put ourselves in the other fellow's debt—an amount equivalent to one and one-third of Amerishoes and get his viewpoint. Do you and I want to change ca's entire national debt prior to the World War. Last year our jobs of long hours, evening conferences, heavy and con- France reduced the trade balance against her from an adtinuing responsibility, for the job of the man who has the verse figure of 23 billion francs to 2 billion francs. chance in his daily work to relieve his brains with the work The third point is that the people of Europe are saving. of his hands? Some days no doubt we all feel like It; but The war and its aftermath meant an orgy of spending. Now whether we would make exchange or would not, it is our re- saving is taking its place. Politicians may disagree every sponsibility to study more fully than we do to-day the condi- morning upon the settlement of the reparations question, but tions of labor and to be sure that, by and large, every compe- meanwhile the brave French peasant, day by day, is growing tent worker (be he in the office or in the field) has an inter- his wheat, is saving his centimes. What, by the way, is the val in the drudgery of work for that enjoyment of life that amount of savings that the French people have invested in will make him a more contented and better citizen. In this their own Government securities since the war? One hunmatter you and I have a responsibility that we cannot dodge. dred million francs. As to Russia, just as I was leaving London early in the Polities and Business. slimmer, practical business men, familiar with Russian conWhat other hurdles have we to jump? If I should answer ditions, made this prediction to me: That there are two —politics—the response might well be that politics are always ways, one akin to the other, in which the Russian situation with us and must ever be reckoned with as a handicap upon will gradually improve. One is that the Soviet Government business. If that is true, it is our own fault in the men whom will begin to persuade foreign engineers, manufacturers and we select to legislate for us. The hurdles against business other technical experts to return to Russia and take in hand which politics set up are likely to be more formidable in the various units of production and transportation. The second continhed unsettlement which they threaten than in the is that foreign merchants will open up more active trade—not actual results of legislation. That is the reason that the direct with Russia. which seems for the moment impossible Bonus Bill, with its threat to tax sev,eral billions of dollars —but with the buffer States, like Latvia, Esthonia, etc., more out of the American people and distribute the fund in whose merchants (having formerly been a part of it) know such a way that probably no one would receive real benefit, Russia. perfectly ; and in return for shipments of goods into has been a hurdle to business. That is the reason that Presi- Russia can secure payment in kind or in some other way not BANKING SECTION. 97 open to the ordinary foreigner. One of my friends described Ism that has led us, in five of the six wars that our nation these two processes as to Russia as akin to the isolated skin- has waged, to battle for high principle—are we bringing grafting operations that are sometimes undertaken upon a that same inspiration to our relations with the world at bad burn on the human body. A lot of little patches of large? That is the question that, with searching earnesthealthy skin are stuck here and there, gradually grow, and ness, you and I may well put to ourselves to-day. after a time, with good luck, come together and cover the Inter-Allied Debt Problem. whole burn. I was inclined to think this a pretty good metaprophecy as to Russia was not In this connection, there is no concrete problem more vital phor and to believe that this onlikely of fulfillment, even though the time involved may for us to study with clear and generous vision than that of the so-called inter-Allied indebtedness. From the purely be long and weary. American view there are certain points important for us to Grievous Loss of Man Power. bear in mind. It has been said many times in the last twelveGrievously as the Continent of Europe has suffered from month that the one adjustment essential to the settlement of the 'war, I would remind you that we are too apt to reckon Europe is the German reparations question. I agree that such losses in material terms—in the destruction of dwellthis has been, and is, a question of great importance, but it ings, of mines and of means of production. Europe's greatseems to me that it has now become secondary to the general est loss, one for which not only she but the whole world must one of inter-Allied debts. Of course, in a way of speaking, it suffer for generations to come, is the death of millions of is simply a part of the latter question, because Germany's her young men; vital, eager, ambitious; singers, painters, indebtedness to the Allies is international in character. In poets; men of imagination and of genius, upon whose ideas our discussions of reparations over here, the American attia great portion of the world depended for its future progress, tude has, on the wnol(!, been critical of the French for apfor its discoveries in science, for its inspiration in the arts. parently not realizing more quickly the facts of the situation Do you remember those lines of young Rupert Brooke, himand thus drastically scaling down the reparations payments. self destined a little later to lay down his life in the great In fact, many criticis over here have been advising France cause: to forgive a good part of the German debt. To these critics These laid the world away; poured out the red Frenchmen have not unnaturally replied: "It is easy for Sweet wine of youth; gave up the years to be Of work and joy, and that unhoped serene Americans to advise us to forgive German debts due to us in • That men call age; and those who would have been, repair of the frightful havoc caused by Germany upon our Their sons, they gave, their immortality. homes and industries, but what about America, in turn, doAnd Europe's great tragedy has been the loss of such lives her social structure, the restoration of ing a little of the debt-forgiving business, especially as the and the upset of which will require far more of time and patience than the debts that were contracted with the American Government were made in order to enable us, in large measure, to do repair of the material destruction wrought upon her. It is to the firsuch spiritual repair that America can by thought, by in- America's fighting before her own soldiers got into contribute even more than in material ing line." I am not going to argue this point. I simply bring sight and sympathy It up so as to ask you to give it your further thought and ways. And upon us bankers and business men falls the reof encouraging in this country the education and study—whether there may not be some reason in the French sponsibility inspiring of our young men to high and generous ideas. For attitude. The reason why I say that reparations has now reached a it is our young men, trained in imagination and initiative, that, in the next decade or two, must supply to Europe some stage secondary to the larger question of inter-Allied indebtof the vitality that lies stilled forever beneath the mud of edness is that, while no reparations adjustment has yet been reached, nevertheless public opinion on the other side Flanders, Remember, too, that Europe cannot be restored by formu- has now advanced to a state where, when the reparations las. No scheme can right the world. Neither statesmen, question comes up again next November, it ought not to be economists nor bankers can devise a plan of salvation. Only Impossible to settle. In other words, over a year ago the the people can save themselves, and that through the exercise British realized that the Germans could, or would, never pay of the old-fashioned virtues of hard work, of thrift, of kind- anything like the reparations total fixed in the Versailles liness and co-operation--coupled with wise and courageous Treaty. Later the Belgian Government became similarly leadership. And that is the point that leads me to emphasize convinced, and now in France, as I have talked there with the title which I have given to these scattered remarks of many classes of representative Frenchmen, there has come to be the same recognition of the fact that Germany cannot pay mine: "The American Banker's Responsibility." the huge totals set forth. The French Government, however, ' America's Good Fortune. • has, not unnaturally, taken the position that it could make First, I want to remind you of the great privilege it is to be no official acknowledgment of such a general fact until such an American citizen to-day. This is still the country of great time as a possible settlement was offered. The French theopportunity. The great open spaces of this North American sis is that if Germany cannot pay what she has promised to continent have given us justification for boundless vision, pay,let her come forward and state just why she cannot, and for generous impulse, for glowing optimism, for helpful co- what and when she can pay. Up to date the French declare operation in all directions. Just to be born an American, they have not received any clear-cut proposition from Gerfree from some of the clinging prepossessions of the Old many covering these points. They say that when they reWorld, is in itself an inheritance and a career. ceive such a proposition, they will be prepared to act. I • Are we to-day realizing our opportunities? As to our bring out this point of view, because I feel that while to many purely domestic situation, I should reply, on the whole, yes! there may have appeared to be something "hard-boiled" in Our people are generally working in a worthy way towards the French attitude, it is only fair to analyze that attitude worthy ends. They are meeting most of our strictly home and see what it really is. problems witll candor and good sense. If, as a people, we The Sums Owing to America. have a lack, it is that not often enough do we "pause in livFurther, when it comes to this question of inter-Allied ining to enjoy life." We are sometimes apt, in our eagerness for quantity, to overlook quality. We let our days and our debtedness, suppose we put to ourselves, in all seriousness, passing pleasures grow elaborate and complex, forgetting that point that the French have put to us, namely—"Is it that moth and rust corrupt and that ideas and ideals are the fair for us, inasmuch as we seem to be urging France to foronly things that endure for the ages. America within itself give part of the German debt in order to effect economic is, I repeat, a land of generosity and co-operation. Through- adjustments in Europe, to do a little forgiving ourselves?" out our great and growing commonwealths from East to As we put this point to ourselves, suppose we spend a moment West we see public spirit, eager and Intelligent; we see warm in looking at the amounts of Governmental indebtedness hearts, fine impulses, directed toward noble ends. But are owing to our Government. Just for record, I will mention we bringing this native American idealism—that same ideal- again the rough totals by countries: 98 BANKERS' CONVENTION. .Armenia Austria Belgium Cuba Czechoslovakia Esthonia Finland France Great Britain Greece Hungary Italy ' Latvia $11,959,917 24,055,708 377,564,298 8,147,000 91,169,834 13,999,145 8,281,926 3,358,104,093 4,166,318,358 15,000,000 1,685,836 1,648,034,050 5,132,287 26,000 4,981,628 170,585 135,620,583 36,128,494 192,601,297 51,153,160 Nieaiegtia • Poland Rumania Russia' Serbia • Total • $10,150,154,196 Now, as to this indebtedness, early last spring Congress passed a law under which the President appointed a special commission to negotiate with the foreign nations the handling of their indebtedness. The power of this commission, however, was strictly limited by law. It must require the borrowing nations to pay off their entire indebtedness within ,25 years and meantime to pay interest at an average rate not below 41 / 4%. Of course, such provisions leave little room for negotiation. Under that bill about all that the European nations can do is to "sign on the dotted line," or else to decline to sign, on the ground that they know that they will not be able to live up to the specified obligation and, therefore, feel it impossible to commit themselves to a promise that they cannot carry out. Now, being all, I hope, practical men, I think it behooves us to scrutinize this situation and to look into the various factors bearing upon it. Let us, by investigation, determine what, if any, of these debts are in any event uncollectible, and so should be written off in order to "quit fooling ourselves." Let us decide what others of these debtors are good in part but must be given ample time to pay in—far longer perhaps than 25 years. Emphatically, let us figure to see whether the payment of these debts (which inevitably must mean a great increase in our import and a heavy decrease in our export trade) is going to prove an asset or a liability for American business. Do They Really Owe Us All the Debt? Then, aside from these phases of the question, there is another one for us to study, which has practicality in it and also some sentiment. It is based on the following fact, • namely that about one-half of the total indebtedness shown • in the foregoing table was contracted between April 4 1917 (when Congress declared war against Germany) and the date a year later when the American army for the first time got its soldiers into the trenches in any considerable numbers. Can it not, with much reason, be argued that whereas during this period of one year we were wholly unable to furnish soldiers to fight our battles for us, at least we were able to furnish arms and munitions? We did furnish these, but not as a free contribution to the war, for during that period • the Allies were purchasing these commodities in America and were paying for them by contracting the debts just described. Ought, therefore, any part of this first half of the debt to be canceled by the American taxpayers? I do not attempt to answer that question, which, of course, has been raised many times heretofore. I simply bring it up again and urge you to think about it, and if, and when, you reach a conclusion, express that conclusion out loud. One thing is certain: if someone on April 4 1917 had been able to give us our choice as to whether we should rather give up freely and for all time five billion dollars in money or give up the lives Of several hundred thousands of our sons, there would have been no hesitation as to our choice. Fate, however, was the one that determined that choice. It determined that Great Britain and France should give up the lives during that first year, and that we should furnish, not our blood but our money; taking, however, in place of it the promises-to-pay of • our allies. No other policy at the time could have been followed,I grant you, but now that the war is behind us and we can take a long look back, is it wise for us, is it just, is it generous to make some composition of this matter? What is your opinion? In making up our minds as to the proper answer,let us recall a phrase that of late years has been much used here, and sometimes misused—"America First." What does 'America First mean? Does it mean that we shall strain every nerve to make America first in wealth and prosperity? If so, we have already attained that ambition. Already we hold two-fifths the entire world's stock of gold. We produce 54% of its cotton; 45% of its grains; 60% of its copper; more than half of its iron and steel. Is there any field of material accomplishment that we are not pre-eminent in? As to science, no ambition could be more exalted than to have America first in that field. And we may well be glad and proud that in so many lines of science, especially perhaps medicine and pathology, this country is in the van;,its progress being manifestly due not only to the zeal and skill of our scientists, but also to the boundless generosity of those men who have used their wealth to relieve and to bless mankind. In education, too, America is in the front rank, and even though in systems for training the minds of our young we may have much to learn, yet no one can deny that in our scheme of general free schools for the youth of the land we probably surpass any other country in the world. Likewise, In our charity, America's record is a noble one. Who can forget the colossal sums for relief that our people freely gave during the war and after? Mr. Herbert Hoover estimates these sums to have aggregated $1,204,343,000 down to the summer of 1921. Of this amount approximately $200,000,000 was sent abroad after the armistice to feed the hungry and clothe the naked. Are We Doing Our Full Share? Yet with all this splendid record of liberality and accomplishment, I again put the question whether you and I and our fellow citizens generally are doing our full share to solve the weighty, the tragic questions that are weighing upon the world? Are we giving to the solution of those questions the best that is in us—our constant study and thought, the willingness to sacrifice? I make no appeal to you for the immediate material aid of the world that lies beyond the Atlantic and Pacific. I make appeal to you, and to myself, for something far more rare—for our assurance to them that we are with them in mind and in spirit in the solution of their difficulties; that we are once again ready, as we were in the Great War and as our forefathers have been for 150 years, to suffer if need be, and to yield up something of ourselves in the general cause of world justice and peace. Concretely, may I digress for a moment to mention two situations with which in the past two years I have become somewhat familiar? One of these is the Far East. The other is Mexico. Across the Pacific, Japan is our nearest neighbor. Do not gain the opinion that the Japanese people are a sharp, tricky nation, unfriendly to us and wanting to get the advantage of us. It is not so. The Japanese nation as a whole is exceedingly anxious for our good-will and friendliness and will go far to gain and retain oui co-operation. Nothing, I believe to-day, is, in their own opinion, quite so vital to them as an unbroken friendship with their neigh-. bors of America. But it was upon the transcendent problem of China that I particularly wanted your thought. There is a great people—four hundred millions of them—a people high in the arts and in civilization three thousand years before Columbus came to America. But in these modern days their antiquated system of government has broken down. And trusting America, these great people of China—sober, peaceful, honest, industrial and intelligent—ardently desire the guidance of America. Any question affecting the peace and development of the whole Pacific basin must be of interest to us, and no task of greater magnitude and import waits upon us than to assist in the solution of China's difficulties. That is why I regard the Pacific Four-Power Treaty reached at Washington last winter as of such supreme importance to the Far East and as calling for the study and loyal support of every American citizen. BANKING SECTION. The Situation as to Mexico. The other concrete situation which I had in mind was nearer at hand; our next neighbor to the south. To Mexico, as to China and Japan, duties not of my own seeking called me not long ago, and much time has been spent in an endeavor to assist Mexico in what I believe to be a sincere attempt by her present Administration to work out the problem of her foreign indebtedness. Any such attempt, if carried out in good faith and effectiveness by the Mexican Government, must be bound to impress the world. And what I ask of you now is to give some little thought to this near neighbor of ours. Do not accept the "hard-boiled" opinion of your neighbor that "Mexico is hopeless" or that "all the Mexican people care about is to fight revolutions." No such opinion is true. No such • opinion shows any scrutiny of the facts. Study the situation for yourself and you will find this to be true: That during the administration of Porfirio Diaz, intelligent and high minded as he was in so many ways, millions of the Mexican people had almost no opportunity to improve their position either by acquiring education or becoming, even in part, owners of the land which they cultivated. So that the revolution which overthrew -Diaz and the revolutionary movements that succeeded it misdirected though some of them were—were, in general, efforts to relieve and uplift the great mass of Mexican people. Remember this and you cannot fail to have more sympathy with the situation to-day. Of course, the movement to reform, like all such movements in history, went too far. The pendulum swung away to the left. Trying to correct admitted evils the Republic created some new ones and adopted a constitution which is subject to criticism, not so much on the ground of its radicalism, as upon its unworkableness. The present Administration in Mexico is, I believe, making an earnest effort to change the workings of that 1917 Constitution so as to give the country a sound basis to work upon and its foreign investors adequate security. Because, however, the process is slow and halting, we have no cause for despair. On the contrary, there is strong ground for hope, always provided that you intelligent leaders of our community take the trouble to study the facts, and never be wearied in your patience and sympathy for that neighbor whose frontier marches for sixteen hundred miles with ours from the Gulf of Mexico to the Pacific. To the problems, then, of these two neighbors of ours to the south and across the Pacific, I ask you to give your per- 99 sonal thought and interest; pointing out to you meantime that the situation of Europe is inescapably joined with that of our own. In a material way we have made many nations, as Mr. Wickersham has said, dependent upon our own surplus products, and ourselves, in turn, dependent in part upon their markets. But, as I have said, the co-operation that I ask first for them is not economic. It lies in understanding and in sympathy. The shot that was fired at Lexington in 1775 was heard around the world. At that moment America set aglow a new beacon to light the way to freedom and liberty for generations on both sides of the ocean. But now that we have won so far on the way to a splendid na. tional achievement, to well-ordered freedom, to prosperity and contentment, have we no flaming torch of leadership. that we can raise before the eyes of the many millions who, since the armistice, have been looking in vain for it? America at the Parting of the Ways. Finally, do not forget that, as these nations of Europe face great dangers, America, too, is facing a crisis, though of a different order. We have gained great power. With the power goes weighty responsibility. Have we discharged it? For the period of the World War, my answer is yes, a thousandfold yes. For the period since the armistice, can any one of us search his heart and answer yes? We have, it is true, offered criticism to the nations of Europe. We have shouted advice across to them. But we have been timid and fearful of petty entanglement. Now we have, it•would seem, come to the parting of the ways. Shall we meet the responsibility that has come with our power—or shall we fail? Shall you and I give our mind, our understanding and our sympathy to these problems or shall we stand aside and add to our national stock of gold? Shall we urge upon our national Government active co-operation in the counsels of the Mother Country and of the Old World? Or shall we keep silent? Nineteen hundred years ago it was that St. Paul said: "For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall much be required." And a little before there was One who said: "With what measure ye mete; it shall be measured to you again." What shall we measure for ourselves? Shall it not once more be the courage that is America's tradition? Shall It not be the generosity as well as the Juktice that, among all the nations of the earth, will' in truth and in name make America First? Reparations and International Debts By The Right. Hon. R. MCKENNA, Chairman of the London Joint City and Midland Bank, Limited. When I received the honor of your iniation, which I greatly appreciated, I must confess I had many misgivings. I knew it would not be a light task to address an audience whose collective importance in the world of finance is unrivaled. I remembered, however, the cordial friendship which has always existed between American and British bankers, and as I realized that your invitation was a further evidence of this friendship my hesitation gave way and I gladly decided to come. • Let me begin with an explanation of my choice of subject. I thought at first that some professiimal topic should be selected, but I soon - ame across a serious difficulty. There is C a much greater difference between the law and practice of banking in America and England than is generally supbosed, and I felt that I should be liable to be misunderstood unless this difference were constantly borne in mind. This very meeting will Illustrate the point. I understand there are over 30,000 separate banks in the United States, a large number of which are represented here. In the whole of Great - Britain we have only 39. But with us the branch system is so highly developed that these few banks have no less than 9,650 branches, of which 6,800 belong to five banks alone. The main distinction is that our banks are regarded by the Legislature as ordinary corporations or companies, while yours are subject to special legislation in regard to nearly all their activities. You have a limit prescribed to the amount of a loan to any one customer. Certain loans are prohibited and others are restricted. Your investments are regulated. You are subject to limitations in incurring contingent liabilities and you are bound to maintain minimum cash reserves. We have none of these restrictions. Alone amongst deposit banking countries the United States protects depositors, some of the States going so far as to prescribe a system of guarantee. We differ also in our central bank policy. You have adopted the Federal Reserve System under which there are 12 Federal Reserve Banks in 12 districts. In England we have a,single central bank of issue, a joint stock corporation which deals with private customers as well as with the Government and the banks. Your Federal Reserve notes are issued against. gold and self-liquidating commercial paper. Our Bank of England notes are issued against gold only, with a fiduciary issue of £18,450,000. •The principles of sound banking are the same everywhere, but our countries diverge ,in law and practice. This is natural. British social and political conditions differ so much from yours that the same banking system could hardly be appropriated to both: Perhaps we have each something to learn from the other, but I am sure any hasty attempt to es- 100 BANKERS' CONVENTION. tablish a common procedure in the two countries would be unwise. As our development has progressed each nation has adapted itself to its environment, and such changes as we may make in the future must conform to the habits and traditions of our peoples. With these thoughts in mind,I found it very difficult to select a technical banking subject for discussion to-day. However careful I might be I felt that,unless accompanied by much tedious explanation, my language, associated with ideas related to English practice, would be liable to be misunderstood by you whose associated ideas are so different. I resolved, therefore, to pass over professional banking topics and to look for a subject of general interest to the business community. What should this be? In their report to the Reparations Commission, the Bankers' Committee which sat early this summer in Paris laid stress upon the need to resume normal trade conditions between countries and to stabilize exchanges, and they came to the conclusion that neither of these aims could be accomplished without a definite settlement of the reparation and other international debts. Here, then, it seemed to me, was a subject for my address. There will be general agreement that there is no matter of more deep concern to the world's trade at the present time than reparation payments and international debts, and I trust, therefore, you will not deem it out of place that I have chosen this subject for discussion to-day. There are two preliminary observations which I must make. The first is that I speak as a banker expressing my personal views. I have nothing to do with politics and I do not appear here in any representative character. I approach the question solely from the economic point of view and my endeavor is to determine, so far -as I can, the limit of the debtors' capacity to pay, and the effect of payment upon the world's trade. Our duty is to satisfy ourselves on the financial possibilities of the case. It is not what the debtors may Justly be called upon to pay, but what they are able to pay, which we as business men, anxious to discover the conditions upon which trade prosperity is founded, must consider with the most careful attention. My second observation is to meet a possible criticism. How can I, a member of a nation which is one of the debtors of the United States, speak freely to an American audience upon international indebtedness? The primary and essential duty of a debtor is to discharge his liability, and, until this is done, all observations on the origin of the debt and on the economic consequences of international payments are liable to be viewed with suspicion. A creditor may, if he like, open up questions of that kind, but a debtor should admit his obligation without further discussion. I recognize that these are objections which I must answer and I believe that I can do so conclusively. In the course of my argument I shall show that England has the ability to pay, and, once that is established, I can unhesitatingly assert her determination to honor her bond in full. I believe I am justified In asking you to treat England's debt to the United States as certain to be provided for, and, if this be conceded, we shall be free to consider the question of the remaining international debts as one in which America and England are equally concerned and in which both have the same interest as creditors. First, let us look at the magnitude of these international debts. The greatest of all is that of Germany for reparations, a debt of which the United States declined to receive any share. The amount was not defined by the Treaty of Versailles, but subsequently by the London Ultimatum it was put at 32 billion dollars, at which amount it stands nominally to-day. Of the remaining debts the liability of France / 1 to the United States and Great Britain is 62 billion dollars, / 1 and of Italy to the same two countries, 42 billion dollars. / 1 2 Russia owes these countries 3 billion dollars and a further one billion dollars to France. These are the principal debts; the others are all comparatively small in amount. Of the creditors of the European Continental Governments England Is the greatest. We have no record in history of international claims of this magnitude. The indemnity exacted by Germany from France under the Treaty of Frankfort in 1871, in round figures one billion dollars, created the largest debt between Governments ever known until the recent war, and is the only precedent we have of a considerable international payment. It is of interest to recall how the liability was discharged. Payment of 150 million dollars was made in gold and silver coin and in German bank notes and currency collected in France and the balance in foreign bills, chiefly Germany currency bills. The precise form in which the payment was made is, however, comparatively unimportant. For our present purpose the significant question is how France procured the means of payment . She was bound to acquire German marks or foreign currency exchangeable for marks, and to do so she had either to find German or other foreign buyers for such things as she had to sell or to obtain foreign subscriptions to her loans. Very considerable sales were made of foreign securities owned by French nationals, the French loans were largely subscribed externally, and the export of French goods was so much increased that an average excess of imports of 65 million dollars a year in the four years 1868-1871 was converted into an average excess of exports of 46 million dollars a year in the four subsequent years. By September 1873 the whole indemnity was paid, and although France remained liable for the loans she had issued, she was clear of any direct debt to the German Government, and indeed of all foreign debt payable in any but her own currency. Here we have an example of a very considerable international debt rapidly paid off without any serious disorganization of the world's trade. Now, what were the conditions which made this possible? The war had been short, and the amount of the indemnity was well within the capacity of France to pay. Her nationals held large blocks of foreign securities, which were realizable in foreign markets; her credit was good, which enabled her to obtain foreign subscriptions to her loans ;and in her effort to increase her exports she was not hampered by high tariffs. She was driven off the gold standard and although there was some decline in the value of the franc, the depreciation never exceeded 5%, and, taking the whole period through, amounted to barely more than 1%. But of the several factors in the French ability to pay the most important lay in her accumulated reserve of wealth, the foreign securities owned by her nationals. It is interesting to note the Industrial condition of France at that time. Employment was extremely active and production was on a great scale. She had to meet her external liabilities, which compelled her to increase her sales in foreign markets, and she did so notwithstanding the competition of other nations. The improved standard of efficiency in production which was thereby forced upon her endured long after the period of the indemnity. In Germany, on the other hand, there was a very different experience. The receipt of a large amount of gold and silver had, with other causes then in operation, a serious effect upon German internal prices, which rose rapidly. In 1872 there was a brief trade and financial boom, followed in the ensuing year by a crisis which was the beginning of a period of depression. It would not be correct to say that the trade conditions in Germany were entirely due to the payment of the French indemnity, but undoubtedly it was a contributory cause of material importance. The comparative prosperity in France and depression in Germany are remarkable and give color to the story that Bismarck, in commenting upon the state of the two countries, declared that the next time he defeated France he would Insist on paying an indemnity. Such is the only precedent we have for the payment of a great international debt. The figures we have to deal with to-day are on a far larger scale than the indemnity exacted from France 50 years ago, but the problem in all essential particulars is the same. We have to discover the capacity of the debtors to pay and to consider the consequences of payment. As the indemnity demanded from Germany is much the greatest of the debts and is the one most urgently in need of a satisfactory settlement, I place it in the front of our discussion. BANKING SECTION. • '101 The first question is, what is Germany's capacity to pay? trade figures show that the exports, long after the immediYou are perhaps expecting that I am about to give you an ate deficiency in essential foreign commodities due to the inventory of Germany's natural resources and an estimate of war was made good, are still barely equal to the imports. her productive power. All this has been done many times The conclusion seems irresistible that Germany has no presand much industry has been displayed in the inquiry. I have ent capacity to obtain a surplusfrom the export of goods. I am not sanguine enough to believe that those who think no doubt that the experts who advised the signatories of the Treaty of Versailles that Germany could pay 120 billion they can extract from Germany enough money to enable dollars had made many careful calculations of this kind. them to meet the internal liabilities, which they themselves But what we have to investigate is not Germany's capacity have incurred in restoring devastated areas, will be satisfied to produce wealth but her capacity to pay foreign debt. I with the statement I have just made. At the recent Reparacannot help thinking that we have here the source of the er- tions Conference of the Allied Powers held in London proror into which the Versailes experts seem to have fallen. No- posals were made of punitive measures to be taken with the body has ever doubted Germany'simmense power to produce, object of compelling Germany to make immediate cash paybut production by itself is not enough. She must find a mar- ments, a policy which could only have been advanced under ket for her exports, and the problem thus becomes one of de- the conviction that Germany really could pay. For my part, termining the possible extension of German export trade. I do not believe that it is within her power to do so, but let Nor is this the end. We must remember that an increase in us suppose for a moment that she can. We have then to conher exports will only provide funds for reparations if there sider what the effect of this enforced payment would be upon is no corresponding increase in imports. Payment for her international trade, and whether it would be to the advanindispensable imports must be the first charge upon the pro- tage either of Germany's creditors as a whole or of the ceeds of her foreign sales, and it is only the balance, the ex- rest of the world. If Germany could pay what is demanded of her, the only portable surplus, which is available for reparations. In speaking of a nation's exportable surplus we must not method of obtaining the money would be by increasing her is essenforget that other factors may contribute to it besides the exports. Now what are these exports to be? She exports over imports. Interest received from for- tially a manufacturing nation. Her foreign sale of raw mabalance of is obliged to eign investments and payment for external services, such as terials is comparatively small. On balance she may be contributory factors. Before the war Ger- import food, and in consequence of the loss of a large part hipping, iron ore many possessed a very considerable exportable surplus de- of her mineral lands she is compelled to import both all three sources, but mainly from the interest on and coal for the supply of her factories and furnaces. An rived from by exher foreign investments, which were probably worth not less increased exportable surplus could only be obtained billion dollars. As regards the surplus from the tending her sale of manufactured goods. To do this in the / than 512 sale of her products and payment for services, it is safe to say teeth of the competition of other manufacturing nations she that it never exceeded 100 million dollars a year. But what must work longer hours for less wages, she must cut profits, is her position to-day? Most of her foreign investments have she must reduce her imports to the indispensable minimum. gone. Some were sold during the war, others have been But her competitors will not consent to stand idle while they seized as enemy property by the Governments of the Allied lose their trade. They will find themselves faced with growand Associated Powers, and most of what remain have lost ing unemployment and heavy trade losses. So far as German their value, as in the case of the Russian investments. Her goods seek to invade their own domestic markets they may shipping has been largely confiscated and she has been de- endeavor to exclude them by tariffs, but in order to retain prived of some of her most productive areas—Alsace-Lor- their hold on neutral markets they, too, will be compelled to raine, the Saar Basin and the Polish provinces. All the reduce wages and cut profits. And thus Germany's effort to sources whence an exportable surplus might have been drawn extend her foreign trade must be confronted with the oppohave been greatly impaired if not wholly destroyed. At no sition of the whole manufacturing interest of the rest of the time was Germany's exportable surplus sufficient to enable world, and could only be successfully countered by a general her to make the annual payments demanded under the Lon- lowering of the standard of life. den Ultimatum; it is entirely out of the question that she • I know it is frequently alleged that the collapse of the mark with the accompanying disorganization of the world's .do so to-day. could But let us get a little nearer to the problem of Germany's trade might have been avoided if the German Government present capacity to pay from the surplus sale of her produc- had acted with firmness and good faith. It is said that Gertion. According to a recent statement by the Chancellor of many has intentionally depreciated her currency in order to the Exchequer in the House of Commthis, she has paid money induce her creditors to abandon their claims. We are told and delivered property altogether to the value of about two that her people are not adequately taxed and"that if they billion dollars. Of this amount 1,645 million dollars repre- were subject to the burdens borne in some other countries the sented the value of ships, coal, other payments in kind, prop- Government would be able to meet its liabilities. It is cererty in ceded territories and local payments to Armies of tainly true that in my own country far heavier taxation is Occupation. The amount in cash has been only 375 million levied than in Germany, but I am inclined to think we are dollars. And yet, with this comparatively small cash pay- overtaxed and that overtaxation so far from fostering cannot ment, observe what has happened. The mark has declined fail to depress national production. But whether I am right to less than one-seventieth of he value it had when the ob- or wrong in that opinion I fail to see how additional taxation ligation to pay was imposed upon Germany by the Treaty of can stimulate foreign trade and provide a large exportable Versailles. The means of payment has been found by the surplus. The taxes would be paid in marks, and whether the sale of marks. After this experience it is difficult to believe marks are derived from avowed taxation or from concealed in that Germany has any surplus at the present time from the taxation through the use of the printing press, they are neither case a currency which would be accepted in discharge of her products. export There is a further consideration in support of this conclu- of foreign liability. In the actual condition of Germany a foreign sale of sion. It is beyond question that in the last three years Gert of the payment of repmany has made every effort to develop her external trade. marks is an inevitable accompanimen whose industry and efficiency are arations. Except by such sale there does not appear to be any The German workman, the Government to obtain the necesgenerally admitted, has been fully employed and the facto- practicable method for exacting it from exportactively at work all over the country. The sary foreign currency other than by ries have been been much ers as a condition of their receiving an export license. But decline in the mark, which at every stage has exporter, who often has external obligations, of his own greater in the external than in the internal value, has af- the German ex- to meet, does not want marks, but dollars or pounds sterling, forded a very considerable advantage to the case may be, and forthwith sells the marks paid him porter, so much so, indeed, that there is hardly anywhere a as the not com- by the Government for the currency he needs. If we add to manufacturer producing goods for export who does sale in the course of business the further sale by plain of German competition. Nevertheless, the German this regular 102 BANKERS' CONVENTION. Germans who mistrust the stability of their own currency, nothing more than comparatively small annual payments we have a sufficient explanation of the stupendous drop in can ever be made in this way. But it will be more convenient the value of German money. now to deal with an individual debt, and I will ask you to Let me come back now to the question of what Germany consider the particular case of the debt from France to Engcan pay. Certainly she can pay something, though not in the land, which I can speak about with more freedom, as it is a form or under the conditions it is now sought to impose debt in regard to which my own country is the creditor. We upon her. Many Germans possess foreign assets, whether shall get a clearer view of it if we examine the circumstances investments or balances in foreign banks, and it would be in which it was incurred. a perfectly practicable proceeding for them to sell these During the war France developed an immense demand for assets to the German Government, who in turn could hand goods of foreign production. As an increasing proportion them over to the Reparations Commission. But it is an es- of her man-power became engaged in her army, her capacity sential condition of such a transaction that the owners of the to supply herself was progressively reduced. She had no foreign assets should be willing to sell them; no Government abundance of foreign securities with which to pay for her rein the present situation of Germany could force a compul- quirements and she could obtain the war materials indissory sale. How, then, could this consent be obtained? I pensable for the maintenance of the fight in no other way have no doubt that if these assets could be sold for an as- than by borrowing the money to pay for them. Before the sured profit the holders would be willing to dispose of them. United States came into the war France had borrowed one It must be remembered that to a considerable extent they billion dollars from the British Government, and this amount are the proceeds of sales of marks which have been flung by was subsequently inc-eased to over 2y, billion dollars. The Germans on the foreign markets under the well-founded ap- price of the goods bought by France was naturally high. prehension that the pressure of reparations payments would Commodities produced to meet an urgent war need can never rapidly depreciate their value. Relieve this pressure and be cheap. But France was obliged to have the goods, whatthe mark would immediately improve. It has still a far ever the price, and a great stimulus was given to American greater value in Germany than it has outside, and the Ger- and British trade. man holders of foreign assets would have a clear advantage Let us now reverse the process and imagine France paying in selling them for marks to their Government. off this debt. She could only do so by producing goods and It is impossible to give.any precise estimate of the total exporting them in very large quantities, far in excess of norvalue of these assets, but I believe it would be safe to put mal trade demands. If the general trade organization of the them at not less than a billion dollars. Whatever the amount world permitted of the absorption of this additional French may be, however, Germany could pay it, provided the fall in output, I have no doubt that her industry would be capable the mark was arrested. More than that I do not think she of the effort necessary to enable her to pay interest and sinkhas the ability to find, at any rate for some years, and it ing fund on her debt. But would there be any willingness to would be a condition of this payment that no more should be receive the goods? Neither England nor any other country demanded of her for a long time to come. I believe that, is prepared to-day to pay for and consume goods on an exlooking merely at the amount to be received, the creditors ceptional scale. The immense demand created by the war would gain by abandoning the attempt to obtain other money has no parallel in peace. And yet, how is France to pay unpayments for a period of at least three years, and I am quite less an exceptional demand exists? The truth is that her sure the world as a whole would be an immense gainer in debt is far too great in relation to ordinary international the general stabilization of exchanges which would ensue trade possibilities. It was incurred by the purchase of goods upon an arrest of the fall in the mark. required in war and bought at war prices. It could only be Before I leave this part of my subject there is one observa- discharged by the transmission of goods, not wanted in peace, tion I should like to make. I have no wish to minimize the and sold at no less high prices. We became accustomed in just claims of the Allies against Germany, and I recognize war to talk in billions. Our language was suited to the cirthe serious political difficulties which stand in the way of cumstances of the time, but, if we carry our minds back to their abatement. But no solution of the reparation is pos- 1914 and return to the ideas appropriate to peace conditions, sible unless political considerations are subordinated to eco- we shall recognize at once that France has no trade surplus nomic facts. What Germany can pay may not be a simple or reserves of accumulated and exportable wealth to enable question, but it is a question capable of being answered. Un- her to meet her present external liabilities. fortunately, the answer runs counter to popular hopes, popuThere are, of course, conceivable, though I trust improbalar passions, and, more formidable still, a popular sense of ble, conditions in which the French debt to us might be renatural justice which prescribes that the defeated enemy paid. If we were at war and the call upon our men to line who planned the war should make good the damage suffered the trenches was such that many of our mines and factories by the victors. And so no authoritative answer is given had to close down; and if France were at peace and at libwhile Europe slides into ruin. erty to increase her output to the utmost of her capacity she I have dealt at length with the reparations problem in an might pour upon our shores war material and stores equal to endeavor to show that a nation, except in so far as it has an the whole amount of her debt to us. But in what part of the exportable surplus, can only pay foreign debt out of the globe is there a demand for this additional output in time of wealth it has accumulated outside its own country. If we peace? The mere endeavor to extend her foreign sales to the pass now to the other international debts we have to recog- necessary degree would disorganize the trade of the world. nize that the general argument is equally applicable to them We have seen the painful effect of an enforced competition by all. Have the debtors an exportable surplus, and what are Germany; we should experience precisely the same results their foreign assets? With regard to the latter question the from a similar effort by France. only debtor possessing any large accumulation of such assets The inevitable conclusion is that these international debts is England. Notwithstanding her immense sale of securities are far too great for the capacity of any of the debtor counto the United States in the second and third years of the tries except England. She alone in her accumulated foreign war, a sale which largely furnished the means of paying for Investments has adequate resources with which to discharge the goods of all kinds bought by the Allies, England still her liability to the United States. Of the others, France has owns sufficient foreign securities to cover her debt to the the greatest resources, but they are, I believe, quite insuffiUnited States two or three times over. But neither France cient to meet her obligations. The whole subject requires a nor Italy has similar reserves of wealth, and I doubt whether rational reconsideration by the creditors, who must keep either of them has sufficient to meet more than a trifling steadily in view the immediate effect of the payment of these part of their foreign debt. debts on the general trade of the world. The creditor counThere remains to be considered their exportable surplus in tries will obtain greater advantage from trade prosperity, the ordinary way of trader I shall speak later of the circum- which will ensure full employment in their factories and stances in which an exportable surplus from production workshops, than they can ever receive from the precarious asually arises, and I shall give my reasons for thinking that payment of these debts. In the last two years we have had BANKING SECTION. 103 able condition for such rapid repayexperience of the effect upon foreign trade of tumbling ex- rapidity. The indispens inary demand for own credit,and though the consequences ment is that there should be an extraord changes and broken-d demand which is a natural accompaniment of may be more serious in England than in the United States, its goods, a in peace. I cannot help thinking that where foreign trade is comparatively only a small part of the war but does not exist general, though very natural, misundertotal trade, they are still grave enough in the latter country there has been a standing of the conditions under which international payalso to warrant the fullest and most careful consideration. its present magnitude the subject is It may be objected that my argument appears to lead to ments are made. In disno nation, unless it has ac- new. In the past we have been accustomed only to the the unpalatable conclusion that ively small liabilities between nations -cumulated resources in the form of foreign investments, can charge of comparat partly by the remittance of gold, discharge external obligations to anything more than a com- which has been effected of export trade facilitated by a paratively small amount. This is an objection which goes to and partly by an extension not easy of international loans and fall in the exchange of the debtor country, and it is the very root of the question from the ideas we have formed forces us to a consideration of the real meaning of an ex- for us now to free ourselves experience. Mistaken opinions on portable surplus. I cannot do more than touch upon it in the course of our past not surprising, but they are briefly now without stretching your patience beyond the these economic questions are causing grave disasters throughout the world. It is not limit of extreme good nature. my own recollection—that It seems to me that the most compact form in which I can many years ago—it is well within to the experience a want of understanding of sound principles of banking led present the case is by calling your attention which were then believed to be of England as a creditor country. For over two centuries to repeated financial crises countries. Year by inevitable. As they usually happened at intervals of 10 or 11 British capital has been lent to other attributed them to the variayear England produced more than she either consumed her- years, many serious persons other nations, and tions which occur in the spots on the sun. These spots may self or could exchange for the products of through the weather, the harvest, she could not obtain a market for the surplus unless she gave affect the weather, and, foreign issues but a wider knowledge of banking and of currency requirethe purchaser a long credit. Foreign loans and how to escape their malign influence of all kinds were taken up in England and the proceeds were ments has taught us n. British facto- on credit. A better understanding of international trade spent in paying for the surplus productio limits of international payments will ries and workshops were kept in good employment, but it was and of the possible distheir output quickly enable us to find a remedy for the evils wh•ch now a condition of their prosperity that a part of of the Atlantic are beginning on both sides should be disposed of in this way. Taking the aggregate of tract us. The public rational view than was possible three years the transactions, British creditors have received a good re- to take a more leaders of opinion direct our footsteps along turn on their investment, but the ability of the debtors to ago, and if the develop- the right path I believe the world is now prepared to follow it. pay has been dependent, speaking generally, on the To sum up: The conclusion to which I am driven is that ment of their country being fostered by the receipt of further pay now whatever she may have in forloans. If we take the whole field of British foreign invest- Germany can only can realize every year England has returned in eign balances together with such amount as she ment we shall find that of her remaining foreign securities; that this loan more than she received in interest, and the balance of by the sale payment is only possible if all other demands are postponed the world's indebtedness to her has been steadily growing. to ensure the stabilization From this view of loans made to foreign countries they for a definite period long enough n of to be somewhat unremunerative. If of the mark; and that future demands at the expiratio might seem at first sight be limited to the annual amount of Gerthe creditor has to go on lending in order to be paid the inter- this period must time. Further, that Engest on previous loans, a bad debt would appear to be the only many's exportable surplus at that to pay to the United States interest possible end to the business. But this is by no means the land has the capacity the other debtors are case. While this continuous lending has been true in the and sinking fund on her debt; but that meet more than a small part of past in the aggregate of foreign loans, it is not necessarily none of them in a position to the existing condition of true in any individual instance, nor does it follow that it their external liabilities, and in payment by them is be true of the loans as a whole. In our experi- Europe a definite postponement of any will always to corpora- desirable in the interests of all the parties. The actual ence as bankers it is not uncommon to see loans could ultimately pay should, tions and finis justifiably increasing in amount. The bor= amount which the other debtors case of Germany, be ascertained by inquiry into rower may show by the growth of his business and expand- as in the a full and frank conference being turnover that such advances are thoroughly warranted, their exportable surplus at debtors. and in spite of his greater total of indebtedness his credit tween creditors and It remains only for me now to thank you for the patience may be improving and his balance sheet may disclose an inme. I have strictly confined creasing surplus. What is true of an individual or corpora- with which you have heard of Reparabut on a larger scale and myself to a consideration of the economic aspect tion may be true of a country, Debts, how they are payable, the viewed over a much more extended period of time. The life tions and International to pay, and the effect of of an individual or even of the most successful company is general capacity of a debtor country convinced that an attempt to enas nothing compared with the life of a nation. Take the payment. If I have become is injurious to the case of your own country. The United States has been the force payment beyond the debtor's ability whole world, lowers wages, regreatest external borrower in history. You required foreign International trade of the unemployment, the concapital for your internal development and you took from duces profits and is a direct cause of economic grounds and is uninEngland alone not less than three billion dollars. It is esti- clusion is founded solely on any regard to the mated that at the time of the outbreak of the war your ex- fluenced by any political considerations or I know very well that ternal debt had become stationary in amount, and that your moral obligations of the debtors. pay the whole there are other considerations affecting these debts, but exportable surplus of commodities sufficed determined by the rulers of the interest. Repayment of the capital, however, would these are matters of statecraft to be your capacity for a very long period of the creditor countries according to their view of wise polhave been beyond even beside!' those of trade and had it not been for the opportunity afforded by the war. As icy, which covers many interests itself then an inexhaustible demand in Eu- finance. The fact that a debtor cannot Bay does not of you know, there arose n. The debt may become the subject rope for American goods, which led to an immense increase discharge the obligatio on and bargain by which if the debtor obtains reIn your exports. Payment for these exports was largely of negotiati may still recover some advantage to which made out of the proceeds of the sale of the stocks and bonds lief, the creditor duty of capital liability which had been he may be justly entitled. But I conceive it to be the held in England, and thus a so far as they can in forming a sound public to help growing for over two centuries was almost entirely dis- bankers opinion upon the financial and commercial aspects of these charged in a few years. onal debts, and it is in pursuance of this duty that We see, then, that a debtor nation may in certain circum- Internati with remarkable ease and I have ventured to make these observations to-day: stances pay off its foreign debt BANKERS' CONVENTION. The Responsibility of Government for Industrial Justice By HENRY J. ALLEN, Governor of Kansas. Mr. President, Members of the American Bankers Asso- remembering what I had seen these wonderful chaps do in ciation, Ladies and Gentlemen: It is a very great pleasure France without any cards I knew that this mine leader was to come here this morning, it is a delight to hear the generous in for a surprise. words of the President. I am not entitled to so generous I will never forget the morning they landed. All the mintreatment, but I enjoyed it very well. ers were down to give them welcome. They were going to I hink we are standing to-day, in reference to the indus- give them the sort of welcome that strikers give to those who trial panic, about where we stood 14 or 15 years ago in ref- interfere in the proceedings. They were going to call them erence to the bankers' occasional panic. To-day every man scabs and what-not and then these lads got off their special who thinks upon the situation of industrial problems, knows train, a lot of keen-eyed, kindly faced, self-controlled young there should be a remedy and many know what the remedy chaps. They were so obviously what they were! They were ought to be, just as 15 years ago we thought we knew the not scabs, but citizens come to offer themselves for the deremedy for the banking ills that came out of the bad system fense of the public; but even the miners realized how inconof banking we then possessed. gruous it would be to call them any of the things they came I believe it is just as possible for the Government to lead to call them, so they received them in silence, and these boys us into paths of stability and justice and righteousness in began to march up the i3treets of the city to the point from reference to the industrial problem, as it proved easy for the which they were to go to the mines. Government to thus lead us in reference to the banking probI saw a striker come up to a lad in whom I had a personal lem. interest, and I heard him say, "Well, boy, you ain't going to It is unexpectable that every time a new contract is to be the mines this morning." made between the men who mine coal and the men who op"Yes, going to mine coal to-morrow." erate mines, between the men who work in shops and the men "Well, you can't turn a wheel out there; the pits are full who are on the railroads, that that contract should be the of water. The thermometer is below zero, the machinery has basis of a vicious and costly civil war upon the helpless been down for two weeks. We couldn't mine coal out there public. ourselves under the circumstances." If we are going to get anywhere in this country in referThis lad never looked at him, but as he trudged along he ence to the solution of this problem, then most assuredly we answered him out of the corners of his mouth, saying, "Did will have to reach the remedy through Governmental power, you ever see any trenches in France?" and through the pledge of a righteous and spoken tribunal. That night, while we were throwing out the guard lines, In my State we have reached a point where we now realize we began to pump water out of the pits. We sent along the that it isn't right for the helpless public to bear the ills that regiment of the National Guard which we didn't need, since come from that damnable thing they call "Economic Pres- we had it. sure," and when we adopted a law providing an impartial The next day, against obstacles that seemed insuperable, tribunal before which cause8 might be brought in the essen- they produced at one of the mines a carload of coal. I have tial industries of food, fuel, clothing and transportation, we never heard so much cackling over one egg in all my life. didn't know how the matter was going to work. It came out They called me up all that night at the hotel where I was of the coal strike of two and one-half years ago, in the win- staying to ascertain whether I had learned that they had ter time, that our people, like most people who had coal mined a car of coal. The next day it was ten cars; the next within their borders, weren't very prudent in getting into the day it was 30 cars, and in ten days these great chaps probins, so within two weeks from the hour the strike came, we duced enough coal to relieve the emergency in more than 200 were out of coal in the schoolhouses; we were threatened in Kansas communities, and our danger of freezing was over. the hospitals and in the homes, industries were slowing down They did for us another thing in its fundamental value more and there was threat of suffering in hospitals. worth while even than the fuel we needed so badly at that I went to the Supreme Court of my State and asked if hour, in that they taught us to realize this great truth: That they wouldn't turn over to the State under a proper receiver- the State has the right to protect the public against anybody. ship all of the coal mines in order that we might produce coal This law has been upon the statute books of my State two under the direction of the State. I will never forget the look and one-half years. A certain type of employer and a cerof mild surprise that came into the face of our Chief Justice, tain type of labor leader unite in declaring that it doesn't a great public servant, who has been upon our Supreme Court work, but in two and one-half years the court has found adbench for more than 35 years. He said, "Well, Governor, judication for thousands and thousands of men who labor in upon what allegation do you want to take over these mines?" railways, in electric light plants, in packing houses, in mines, I am a lawyer, and I said, "Well, Judge, whatever allegation In mills, 45 decisions, and of those 45 decisions, 43 of them you think would work." have been accepted without contest as being entirely satisMen have been kind enough to give me credit for courage factory by both parties to the controversy. in reference to the coal mining operations of the State. I A man said to me the other day, "Well, I liked your court want to tell you that the first credit for courage belongs to when it was established, but I am not so sure I am for it any the Supreme Court of my State which did not hesitate to do more." I said, "In the meantime what has happened to a needful thing merely because it hadn't been done before. you?" Then, when they had turned over the mines, I became the He said: "You know I am in the Wolf Packing Company." greatest coal operator in the world without any miners at I said, "Oh, yes, we have made some decisions for you." work. The last one I remember related to the working of women in We issued a call for volunteers, and within 24 hours more one of the bureaus of that great industry. We discovered than 12,000 citizens of the State sent me word that they that in one of the bureaus men and women were working during the same hours, at the same task, with the same dewere coming to mine coal. They weren't interested in the labor problem; they were gree of efficiency and the men were drawing one wage and interested as patriots in the growing danger that attends a the women were drawing a smaller wage. The court, having famine in fuel, and we took from this gredt offering many gone thoroughly into the situation, issued the order that hundreds of young men who had been in the service of their thereafter in my State when men and women work at the country. Alexander Howatt, as the President of the District, same task, with the same efficiency, they shall draw the said that not a pound of coal had ever been produced in the same wage. district since its organization except by union labor and not I said,"What is the matter with that decision?" a pound would ever be produced except by union labor, and, He said, "Nothing is the matter with the decision." BANKING SECTION. 105 of 90 days the men went back to work at the old wage, under I said,"Then what is your plaint?" I wish you could have heard him distend himself. He said, the old working conditions—they hadn't gained a dollar. Then, when the industrial court was set up for business "I resent the right of the Government to tell me how I shall the car men came asking for a new award, pleading for a livrun my business." That is the keynote of objection. I am glad to say that ing wage, and the industrial court took a survey of the costs the Kansas Court of Industrial Relations does not exist for of living and gave a wage award; and the president of the the purpose of telling a man how he shall run his business; court, in handing down the decision, called attention to the it is an emergency measure; it relates only to the essential fact that the Legislature had not given to the court the power industries of food, fuel, clothing and transportation, and it to fix a thing called "a living wage." The law says that provides that when a quarrel in one of these industries has every such man shall be entitled to a fair and just wage. reached the point where it threatens the welfare of the pub- What is the difference.? A living wage is a wage sufficient lic, then that court shall take over the controversy and make to meet a cost of living; a fair and just wage is a living wage awards, and in the meantime the industry shall continue to plus enough to enable a man to give to himself and to his operate in order that the public may have at all times free family some of the benefits of modern life, plus enough to access to transportation and to food and to fuel and to cloth- enable him through reasonable frugality to build a safeguard against age and sickness. ing. That was the interpretation of the court—they gave it. The It isn't a regulatory court, it is an emergency court, and then we have gone rather far along the process of regulation men accepted it, the company accepted it, and peace came by Government for anybody to be too nervous about it where ravaging strikes had prevailed. Then, in a year the railway company came back to the now. the moment we are born to the court and said, "The wage you adjusted a year ago is out of We are all regulated from hour of the funeral. You men who live under constant regu- tune, costs of living have gone down, and if we are to meet lation and have come to like it, realize that there are some the expectation for lower transportation rates, then we must Instances in which the Government may tell you what to do. have lower wages." Again the court made a survey of the costs of living in all The Government has gone so far, every married man in this audience is regulated. I mean in addition to that you cases where there was any room for doubt; they gave the are thinking about. The Government has told him how he benefit of the doubt to the laboring man, as they should have shall treat his wife. The most sacred relationship in the done, and then finally they handed down their award, and it it as a fair world is the relationship of the parents and the child, and was a reduction of wages, and the men accepted it. the Government has come to every parent and has said,"You and just decision and the company accepted I have a letter with me from the general manager of that shall raise that child according to a prescription of the State; business in the Joplin you shall keep it living in wholesome surroundings; you shall company who says"We are now doing and employ the teach- Pittsburgh & Galena Traction Co. under the second contract buy books and build the school houses it is the first time in ers," and in my State, thank God! it says that no matter how adjudicated by the industrial court and your child you our experience when we look forward with assurance to peace much you may think you need the labor of and contentment," and both fhe men and the company have shall keep it in school until it is 16 years of age. life of his accepted the court as being the way to find just solution of I do not care how potential he may be in the community, under certain circumstances it will carry before affairs. Do you mean to tell me that a court that is getting that the bar of judgment, that the judge shall tell it, it shall be sort of results is not working? that he will have back his liberty. I have a letter from the General Manager of the Illinois Ali, my friends, if Government may find justice for all of this, if it may find justice with which to prescribe the sacred Traction Co., which operates three or four railways in our relations of the family, of the parent and the child, if it may State, several light and power companies, and in this letter find justice for a man in relation to his property, and his lib- the General Manager calls my attention to the fact that his erty, and his life; if Government may do all of this with just- company has had nine adjudications by the industrial court tice, don't you think that Government might also find justice and that every man employed by them in a mechanical cafor the laboring man in his quarrel with his employer in pacity has had his wages fixed by the court in emergency matters when a strike had threatened and said,"Not a single these essential industries? certainly Men are always telling us what Government is for: that it complaint exists to-day on the part of the men and literty, and in not on the part of the company of the functioning of the inexists for equality, that it exists for personal had been made these Volstead days, we hear much about the fact that it ex- dustrial court," though nine adjudications the world which affect their entire personnel. ists for personal freedom; that it exists to make So I say to you, the court is working. Of course, we have safe for democracy, but the finest definition of Government had trouble. When the court was first set up for business I have ever heard is that of President Adams, who said,"The who is the chief aim of Government is justice." That is the chief aim in we had to fight it out with Alexander Howatt, President of the Miners' District in that State, District No. every relationship of life, and God help us, as a free people When at any time when any considerable number of folk may rise 14. We don't have any more trouble with Mr. Howatt. on the first of April the strike came in the coal fields, everyto question the capacity of Government to be just, because to those who question, for them Government no longer exists. body went out. The court called the operators together and It was Edmund Burke, proponent of our Anglo-Saxon foun- said, "There is no need of coal just now. Every bin is full. dation, standing in the British Parliament, who said: "All Every coal car is full, but as soon as there is a depletion in the powers of the Empire, including the powers of the King the supply which menaces the public, then you will have to and of the Parliament, and of the army and of the navy, exist operate these mines or the State will have to operate for the sole purpose of placing twelve honest men in a jury them." In 30 days it was necessary for some of the operators to box." upon which we have builded in this open their mines to make up the reserve of coal. When they That is the foundation country, that is the foundation of the Kansas law, and God opened their mines men went back to work. On the day at who were mining help us at any time when that foundation may be questioned Herrin, Ill., there' were murdered 22 men shaft its efficiency, to find justice for all men in relation to coal in strip mines, on that day in Kansas 375 deep as to mines were operating without even an additional police all quarrels. Howatt and 12 of his titsYou might be interested in one or two of these types of force. Why? Because Alexander out. Our first case, I remember, trict officers were in jail for violating the Kansas law. cases that have been tried In the recent railway strike, the general managers of the was a railroad case. The Joplin Pittsburgh & Galena Railyear for five years. The last one Santa Fe and Rock Island have written saying that in Kanway Co. had had a strike a chaps sas they have been allowed to carry on their iZustries at was in 1918, continued for 90 days and cost these poor millions, and at the end practically 100% because of the law in Kansas which guaranwho struck millions; and the public 106 BANKERS' CONVENTION. tees to every man who wants to work the right to work withHe said. "Oh, yes, Governor; the boys are going to put on out molestation: a little demonstration." It is sometimes charged that we have taken away from What was the purpose of it? There were 50 or 60 colored men their God-given right to quit work. That is one of the men working in the round houses and they knew, every man silly statements that Samuel Gompers makes at times. And who was going to parade, that If they put on a Ku Klux Klan friends, if we had sought to do this, then our law would have parade in that town, there wouldn't be a colored man at no business upon the statute book of any modern State. We work the next morning. have not taken away from any man his right to quit. We It would be like the colored man whose friend said, "Sam, have expressly provided in the contention of the Act that if you ever get a letter from these Ku Klux Klan people, nothing within the law shall be interpreted to deprive any what are you going to do?" Sam says, "I am going to read man of his natural right to choose his own employment, and it on the train." to cease It at his w11. I said to this man and to this group So I called up the Mayor who had been bragging to me of men,"You may quit work whenever you may wish and go about his 100% Americanism; I said, "What about this paoff about whatever entertains you elsewhere , but after you rade? Are you going to let them have it?" have quit that isn't your job any more and you shall not "Oh, yes!" come back. You shall not come back here to-morrow with I said, "You can't have it." your pockets full of dynamite to keep these men who want "Well," he said, "I would like to know how you are going to linger on the job from working." The law holds that the to prevent it?" right to work is just as sacred as the right to love and that it I said, "Fortunately, I don't have to prevent it; I am Is the duty of the Government to protect both men in their nothing but the Governor; you are the Mayor of the town—I natural inclinations. am going to require you to prevent It." The statement from the General Manager of the Santa Fe, He said, "Hasn't a man a constitutional right to march in one of the greatest systems of the Middle West (the greatest a parade?" system out there possible), where they have centred in KanI said, "I am not discussing constitutional law with you; sas great repair shops, says that their repair shops in Topeka I am just telling you that you can't have the parade!" employing several thousand men are 115% normal. You I said, "You can call me up at six o'clock and tell me know that is plus. How does he get It? The personnel is all whether you have figured out some way to stop it. If you employed and the personnel that is now doing business in can't stop it, I can !" their shops Is 115% more effective than the old personnel He called me up and asked, "How are you going to stop was. How does it happen? Every railroad company has re- this parade if I can't?" ported this: That in the employment bureaus that have I said, "It's easy. When you call me up at six o'clock and made up the personnel for employment in the place of the throw up the sponge and tell me you can't run your town, shopinen who went out, one of their difficulti es has been that then I will ask the Supreme Court to remove you from office. all of the men who come seeking employment want to be sent That is the first step. And then I am going to send enough to Kansas. Why? Because the State has pledged its own soldiers into your town to take the pillow-case off the head order that every man who wants to work in Kansas shall of any man who appears upon the street." have that right under the protection of Governme nt. "Well," he said, "have you got a constitutional right to Of course, we have had trouble about that, too. We have do that?" had a lot of discussion about whether it was proper to guarI said, "I don't know, but I am in command of the soldiers antee that a man should have the right to work. They have and they will do what I tell them to do. Your remedy is in even called into question our attitude toward free speech. the courts, if you want to discuss constitutional law. I am Oh, I hope no one will ever think that in Kansas there is any merely an administrative officer; I am not a judge." danger to free speech. We are still the freest lot of talkers He called me up at six o'clock and told me the boys had in the world. I imagine that nothing in Kansas would ever postponed the parade. affect the God-given right of free speech in any degree Now, he was a good citizen, but what was the matter with unless possibly it might be a general epidemic of lockjaw— that him? Why, he had found out a new way to violate the law— might affect us some. that was what was the matter with him. It isn't free speech that is in danger in this country, Ah, friends, of course we need laws to control the red my friends. It is the free right of a man to work. That is what radical of foreign birth, but in addition to that we need Is in danger. It is just as sacred as the right of free equally a new baptism of respect for law upon the part of speech. these 100% American citizens! The cunning manner in which these American strikers I think I have just about exceeded my time, and the subcontrive to evade the law proves their superiority over any ject I came here to talk about this morning I have not other striker in the world in that respect. touched on yet. I have said a number of times that I would rather We found another clever way in which they were violatdeal with the red radical of foreign birth in a strike than the ing the law. The strike leaders were getting together all the American striker, because the red radical hates Governme nt merchants who dealt in commissary supplies, who ran hoand fears it, but the American striker, like most American tels, who ran restaurants, and making them pledge themcitizens, neither respects Government nor fears it. selves that they would not sell anything to a man who I remember at one of the towns in which we had great rail- worked ill a shop. What was that? Why, that was picketway shops the Mayor of the town had appointed a lot of the ing. And so the Attorney-GeLJral sal:. "Now, if you men strikers to be special guards, t nd we found that the police- want to sell, you have got to sell everybody; you can't picket men were picketing. And a policeman was apprehen ded who In this fashion"—and he broke that u , had been going to some of the men who liad remained What happened then? Why, the strike leaders got out a at work and saying things like this: "Now, you know, Bob, we window card which expressed 100% sympathy with the trikwill do all we can to protect you, but there are some fellows ers. If there is a larger per cent of sympathy than 100%, I here that we may not be able to handle,.and say, Bob, we have that for these poor strikers, these chaps who were would hate to have happen to you what happened to those forced to leave their jobs, and to-day they are out of work poor chaps at Herrin, Illinois." with ruin staring them in the face. Oh, how I sympathize Bob didn't turn up for work the next day. What was that? with them! I sympathize with the men who are laboring That was picketing. So we finally got them to stop it. under the obsession that there is no other way to obtain Then the next thing that came to my attention, that these Justice except by civil war. 100% Americans had arranged for a Ku Klux Klan parade But this card was not fundamentally for the purpose of on the streets of the city on Friday night. I called up the express'ng sympathy; it was for the purpose of hanging in Mayor and I said, "Mr. Mayor, what about this parade, this the windows of those stores and hotels and restaurants that Ku Klux Klan parader' had refused formally to sell goods. It was getting at the • BANKING SECTION. point in another way, it was picketing in a different fashion, and so, the Attorney-General says, that is against the law. What one man may do fora purpose many men in concert may not do. It is a violation of the law because it is a conspiracy to build an atmosphere of intimidation against the men who are at work. So the Attorney-General ordered the cards down. As the cards came down around in the shop centres, my friend Will White blew up in Emporia. And I have no criticism for him. He is a wonderful chap, a great, solid man, but he became confused as to what free speech is. As I said before, it is in no danger in Kansas—there are a lot of things that you cannot do under freedom. My fr:end White if he had the taste, could light a cigar and go anywhere Ile wished in Emporia with it, except into a powder factory. I wouldn't let him do that; I would curtail his liberty that much. And it wasn't free speech that was in danger; it was the right,of a man to work without intimidation that was threatened. Take our friends in the packing strike. Those of you who live in the Middle West are familiar with the fact that Kansas is the second packing centre in the United States. More than 10.000 men work in the packing plants, and yet, when the packers' strike came, though there were riots and killings and destruction of property in Chicago, in Omaha, in St. Paul, in St. Jcseph, in Sioux City, in Oklahoma City, in Kansas the packing plants functioned with no disorder and we didn't need to call out an extra police force. Why? Because the law was there waving to every man, "You don't have to work in this packing plant if you don't want to; you can leave if you wish, or the court will adjudicate a wage for you to work under. But if you leave this packing plant you shall not come back to molest those who remain. The State has guaranteed that they shall work." And they have worked. In the mines of the State during the three months when the strike gripped everybody else with loss of coal, Kansas produced 900,000 tons of coal, more than enough for her domestic and industrial purposes. And astonishing as it may seem, we have produced 50% of the normal output with 25% of the personnel, showing how tremendously the industry has been overmanned. I wish we might have in the control of the industrial situation, wh:ch is to-day the greatest panic breeder in the world, the wisdom of Government that has led the banking profession into stabilization. I am proud Of the fact that the President of the United States recently, in delivering his brave message to Congress, declared that the Federal Railway Labor Board should have the power to enforce its own decisions; because I am only sorry that after pointing out so courageously and so unerringly the need of this legislation he should have said that he warned Congress against doing anything hasty. Any statesman who thinks it is necessary to urge this Congress not to hurry has no idea of speed. All, my friends, we find in this great land that the best acts of legislation come out of the aroused demand of the public. You hadn't guaranteed the creation in this land of the Federal Reserve System until the explosion of 1907 and the aroused public said "We want something better than what we have had !" Government goes forward out of the same power that sends forward the automobile engine—the power of its explosions, and it is the duty of Congress to make of the explosions a righteous public indignation direction, and it is the duty of the courts to establish the speed limits. I believe that out of the pressure of the tragedy of the last year in the essential industries of transportation and fuel, there is going to come a demand that we write into the fundamental law of the land the sacred pledge that the Government shall protect the public. That is the basis of our law, founded upo man principle that exists in, organized sod that was engraved as one of the 12 laws upo Rome in the Greek language. Let the safet be the supreme law. You may write around that all the sermons the right of the man to take a stick of dyna his own war, but whenever the welfare of the aced the public will come back to this broad p the Government for its protection. Fifteen years ago we didn't know how we c, the banking profession so as to stabilize it, and Aldrich and his confreres began the study of a' serve System, we still questioned the propriety ment to take over an institution like banking in and the was the old voice pleading with us again zation, and then came the wonderful accomplisht Sixty-third Congress, giving to us the fundamenta that underly this growing Federal Reserve Syste All, it IP not surprising that there should be in its administration some things that cause discom am gratified as a citizen who knows very little ing, to stand here this morning and express this fication, that in the Federal Reserve System ther of confidence which all men .feel, and the compla it are the details of administration. They do nk underlying principles. Out in my State, we complain about the Fede System in very much the same spirit that me about the weather. We haven't anything 'Jett( And when Kansas can't offer a new remedy that the present remedy is all right. We expect fair weather and foul weather, b learned that under this system the prudent ma ample shelter. I think one of the most frequently misundersto of the law is in relation to the fact that thes really individual banks, functioning in their se tricts according to the localization of the conditi We had a charge made not long ago that the serve Bank had contracted credit, and the friends of the farmer (God bless them, how comf are to him) were out preaching against the Fede System for having contracted credit. I have jus trouble to gather some figures and I find that in City Disrtict we haven't contracted agricultural from Jan. 31 1920 to July 1 1921 Kansi.e City ha its agriculture and live stock paper from twentydollars to thirty million. Minneapolis had mere period from nine and one-half millions to fort Dallas, from four and one-half millions to thi lions; St. Louis from three hundred thousand to t half millions; Richmond from four hundred t eleven millions; Atlanta from seven hundred t fifteen millions. All of the banks of the system h period increased their agricultural credits from million to two hundred and thirty-four million. So, when we know the figures we realize that, complaint, despite the fact that the farmer does n the Federal Reserve System has not been guilty ing his credits. I am glad to stand as a citizen of West to pay tribute to the enduring thing we hasthis great country, through the establishment tern; in some fashion guaranteed by Government, will always remain; that the currency shall be f that the reserve shall be real, and it is because o system that we have gone through the rigors of tl even the greater test of the reconstruction perio followed the war. I thank you very much. I didn't intend to tak time. BANKERS' CONVENTION. Public Health Assets By Dr. GEORGE E. VINCENT, President of the Rockefeller Foundation. it and Gentlemen: In the older days when a sed a body of bankers, he always introduced the very beginning and that epithet was one smiles of satisfaction; you could almost hear of contentment. That epithet was "hard. there is anything the American business man an banker likes to be considered, it is hardhat does it mean to be hard-headed? To be means to have the kind of cranium into which e idea cannot be inserted when its owner is not 'o be hard-headed is to have one entrance to the to be always on guard, examining, analyzing and voluntarily those ideas which seem to fit into one's of life. You like to be considered hard-headed cy, but there is another quality that I believe is important to every individual who acomplishes n this world, and that is imagination. e listened to the addresses this morning, I have sted, as an outsider, to see the degree to which tion has been appealed to. Mr. Lamont was apstantly to your imagination, to your imagination anted expanded to include not only the large inhis nation, but expanded o include a vision of the d, of which we are only an organic part, which consider apart from the rest of this great, quiverted whole. .sident, in that inspiring address of his, was conealing to your imagination, as American citizens, -esponsibilties. peal for a little while to your imaginations and to eadedness in the interests of one of the most dismbjects that has ever presented itself to a public I am going to talk about "Health." How we disscussion of health! We are in perfectly vigorous What we like to do is to violate the laws of have not the slightest doubt that almost all the sent before me will violate the principles of per..ne at luncheon. I haven't the slightest doubt that ake pleasure in this. We talk about the pathetic omen in the slums who boast about the ability of ren at three and four months to consume pickles with apparent immunity, but after all, every hulikes to boast about the marvelous capacities of his It is only when we become the victims of our inthat we then go to a sanitarium, where we enjoy symptoms with other people who have been com, isit the same place. so much pleasure out of ill health that we don't r about health. Moreover, it is the obvious things -Id that tire us. All the important things are the hugs. All the fundamental things are the things ow all about and hence to which we give almost no In the development of science man began with t stars and only in recent decades has he arrived at nd his mind. Our knowledge about ourselves is ntary that the extraordinary condition of society -ibuted in no small degree to our ignorance of what ignorance of ourselves, ignorance of other'people. 't apologize, I simply have the opportunity to imyou and I am taking advantage of it. I want to interest in behalf of this tiresome subject of pubbut you say that there is no such thing as public ou are outstanding individuals. You don't believe your health with anybody, but after all, there is ea as public health. you know you are well or not? You can't be sure ebody has taken your temperature and then, when is announced, you can't be sure that you are well discover that that temperature practically coincides temperatures of millions of people that have been over the world. You can't tell whether you are well until you have compared yourself with the rest of society. "Oh, yes," you say, "you have internal evidence." Yes, to be sure, you have what is called a symptom. You have a pain. But if you were to discover in every individual with whom you came in contact precisely the same pain in the same spot. then you would know you were perfectly well, because, after all, the standard of health is the average condition of the community. We have been getting new ideas of health. We began by the idea that if you were up and around (I suppose you have heard that expression when you asked someone in the old days,"How are you feeling?") you were well. Of course. now we have such interesting conversational subjects that we no longer resort to these shameless devices, but in the old days we used to say,"How are you feeling?" and the reply was often,"Oh, I can't complain." What an inspiring conception of full, vigorous health that was! Or, "I am so as to be about." There is something stimulating and Inspiring! The idea that the difference between health and disease is horizontal and perpendicular or vice-versa! We can't get very far with that, but the first idea of health is freedom from actual limitations, freedom from pain—we are getting a long way from that. We are going on to the next stage. when we regard health as something which involves a sense of full vigor, full vigor of body, and inevitably full vigor of mind. What we are holding up (those of us who are interested in this field of public health) is an enlarged conception of public health. Public health not only as a means of importance to the individual, but public health as fundamental to the stability, the prosperity, the progress of a nation. We are interested in stocks and bonds, in the material things for which we stand. We boast about plants and machinery, but after all, the most important machinery in this world is the machinery of that complicated mechanism known as the human body, because inseparably associated with this physical body is this sort of termination at the upper end which we by courtesy call the brain and with which we associated certain ideas, certain capacities, certain abilities to bring things to pass. There can be no sound thinking except among a body of people who On the whole are in sound physical condition. I don't mean to say that now and then an invalid can't be of very great importance. because the history of literature, the history of art, shows that there are exceptionally diseased individuals who have made great contribution, but the moment you begin to generalize disease into millions you are confronted by an entirely different situation, and it is a sound and safe principle that only in a great nation which is physically sound can you expect to develop the right spirit, the right sanity, the right loyalty, the right coherency, to make a nation truly strong and truly great. Things have been accomplished in these last few decades. They have been accomplished by two things. They have been accomplished by medical science and medical discovery. We know a great deal now that 50 years ago was unknown about disease. We know that the great menace to the vast majority of individuals comes from bodily parasites that are invisible, but bodily parasites which exist just as truly as though they could be encountered in the public streets as obstacles to public traffic. There are some people in this world who imagine that just because they cannot see things with the unaided eye those things do not exist. There are people in this great and enlightened country of ours—and when we talk about how great and enlightened we are, let us not look too closely at the patent medicine advertisements in the newspapers or listen too credulously to the constant absurdities that are floating through every community with regard to the nature of the human body and the nature of the parasitic diseases which play upon it. BANKING SECTION. 109 You live in communities where you exercise a good deal If you need hard-headedness in banking business you need of Influence. You are willing to admit it privately; you are hard-headedness when it comes to medical facts. Don't, I beg of you, give way to any of the absurdities of too modest to admit it in any other way. Use your imaginathe day; if you want to get the facts, appeal to those who tions for a moment. There have been pleasant things said represent scientific authority and prestige, just as you do in to you this morning about the power which you exercise and the responsibility which goes with it. As I have been sitting every other department of business. If you are engaged in looking up a bond issue with refer- here, looking on in a kind of an objectve way, I have let my ence to a public service corporation, do you send around to imagination play with the situation. I know a good many somebody who is interested in esthetics and who would like parts of this country, and I can imagine myself being up in a to look at such a wonderful thing as the plant, and then balloon or an airplane and looking down upon this broad comes back and tells you it is all right? No; you employ a land of ours to-day in this autumn sunshine. My imaginatechnically trained engineer, and you base your business tion has played with you and with the great system which upon what that engineer tells you. Are you going to be fool- you represent. How it ramifies to every part of the country! I can see the little banks up there in North Dakota awl in ish enough to play fast and loose with this delicate mechanism of your body on the strength of popular magazine arti- northern Minnesota, where I used to be at home. I know the cles, or what somebody else tells you? Use your hard-head- two banks there and how the town is pretty well divided beedness not in a specialized way but in a general way in life. tween the influence of those two banks and the two bankers. That Is one of the great difficulties. You can be awfully How Interesting it is to interpret a community in terms o hard-headed about one thing and absolutely gullible about the social, economic and political influences of the two banks everything else ing,the world. Hard-headedness is a special- I even know of places where there is only one bank, but, ized quality, and what we need very largely in this country then, of course, there is another bank over yonder that be is the development of hard-headedness with regard to all the longs to the same group, and there is a still further ba yonder. And then, in the large places I can see more of th essential Intricate and technical things of life. Until we recognize our own ignorance, and then, at least banks, and as you get toward the centres they grow thic have the ability to pick out the technical experts whom we and thicker, and the spots that represent them grow big can trust, our hard-headedness will be of very little service and bigger with their capital and influence; and then, to us, for it is very likely to develop into the close-minded- they are all held together by these delicate lines which ness, which is a very different thing, into obstinacy, ignor- resent the radiating influences which are exercised thr ance and prejudice, which are absolutely fatal to intelligent this great system. What a marvelous system it is! It most like health. We are so used to it that we don't action of the Individual and wise policy in the community. So I urge upon you the Importance of verifying medical any more about it. But if you detach yourself from it, facts; when you hear that somebody has been given up by a marvelous thing it is! Is there anything comparabl all the leading physicians, ask for the names of the leading in all the invention of human mechanism? Is there a physicians, ask for their addresses, ask from medical author- comparable to this banking system, which not only p ity whom you trust, whether this is a leading physician or in our own country, but with its ramifications and ne not. That is the sort of thing you would do in business. If covers almost the entire globe? How much influence you exercise! Oh, you are anybody turned up with a check and told you that he was all right and had a large account and would you please cash his about it, but you give advice to people; and you haN check, you have (I think it is called good banking) princi- ence in your communities and collectively you ha ples by which you attempt to identify him and learn some- ence. What a tremendous influence it is! There people who are unkind enough to say that you don thing about his probable resources. Are you cashing cheeks for a lot of people on their own exercise it in the public interest. You have heard a faces and saying that they know this or they know that with- but it is hard to be misunderstood. Actuated, as yo out finding out what their standing is in the scientific and the noblest motives, you find it difficult to believe technical world which they profess to represent? Hard- one could traduce you in this way. You have to headedness is an admirable trait to allow to spread over all that is a test of your character; your ability to en understanding from your fellow citizens, but you of life when we come to deal with fundamental facts. This progress in public health, tAen, has been brought acknowledgment of your power. If you did not b about by a very remarkable development in scientific inves- power and if you could not exercise any of it tii,. tigation, and in medical research. These scientific men are have, people would not be afraid of you in the slightest degong back to Pasteur as one of the great leaders, in France, gree ;. they would make the most pleasant addresses to you and Koch, in Germany, as leaders in this great modern move- that you could possibly imagine. Sometimes arousing a little misunderstanding on the part ment in bacteriology, the result of which is that the parasites, the tiny microscopic parasites for the most part that of your fellow citizens is an acknowledgment on their part are the cause of contagious diseases have been identified, of the extraordinary power you possess, but as Mr. Lamont and means of combating them have been discovered, vac- and as your President both said, there goes with that power cines and sera have been elaborated, and by these devices it responsibility, and I want to bring home, if I can, to each is now possible (and it is being employed in all leading coun- one of you men in your own community first of all that you have a responsibility for public health. What do you know tries) to limit the spread of contagious diseases. Every community has a fundamental responsibility for the about the health conditions of the community in which you control of the environment and for the control of contagious live? Do you know what the death rate is; that is, how diseases, and there has been developed another group of men, many people per thousand die each year? Do you know how men whose business it is to apply the practical results in a that compares with other cities of the same size as your city practical way, the results of scientific investigation. So we or of your town? Do you know how you compare as a State with other States? Do you have the bookkeping of public have developed public health officers. There are in the United States a very considerable num- health in your minds? You are great on accounting. Vital ber of these public health officers. Many of them have ex- statistics are the accounting of the public health interests of cellent training, many of them have trained themselves be- the communities. Do you know what the infant death rate is in your communicause they have a fundamentally sound medical education, and through experience they have made themselves good ty? Do you know what is being done in your cothmunity? Do you know what the characteristics and qualifications are of public health officers. One of the most important things that now has to be ac- the public health officers in your community? Is there a doccomplished in the United States is to make careers for men tor that gets a little extra for being a public health officer and women who devote themselves to public health, and and who has never had any experience, who has a little pull there we are at once confronted with the difficulty of local with somebody who has political influence? Is that the kind of public health officer you have? polities. 110 BANKERS' CONVENTION. Until the natural conditions close in upon you, you may not know what the results are, but sooner or later, unless you put your public health activities under the right sort of control, unless you stand for these things steadfastly and courageously, you will find that the assets of your community, in 'vitality, in energy, in loyalty are being sapped, Just because you are not using modern science, and not using the skill and technique which are available if you have the right kind of ,perSonnel. • I listened with much interest to the distinction which your President drew between paternal government and the initiative of the individual. Certainly no one who has seen anything of the development in the United States can afford to _minimize the value of individual initiative. But we must remember that when it comes to the fundamental aspects of public health Which involve the police power, it becomes a overnmental function, and every community must see to it hat up to that point, at any rate, the control of water supAy, sewage disposal and the control of contagious diseases, s in the hands of People who are competent to manage em. :f you will only stand for that sort of thing in the commu- es in which you live, you will build up these ideals- in the te. you will build up these ideals in the country, and you help to contribute these ideals to the world movement ublic health. is a very interesting thing to see how much has already accomplished. In England, the death rate has dropped years—I saw the statistics only yesterday—from 28 musand in 1900 to 13.1 In 1921. We have made equal ,ss In this country. Of course, there are various parts country that are so healthy that the death rate is good, anyway. We sent a man up into one of the rn States to see if they needed any help up there, and• e back and said, "Don't do anything. They have a ate so low that if anything was done, it would put it analyzed statistics, you must remember that in the where the average death rate is low, the people are • engaged in agriculture or other outdoor pursuits of sort, so you will inevitably have a lower death rate would have if you had all the age groups reprethe normal distribution of groups through the ages inary community. Is important for us to remember that there is no which can be counted upon in the rural districts. you have come from small communities and have lug and saying, "Oh. It is all very well to talk to who come from towns and cities, but as for our reg!on. we live in the country where everybody is as well as possible." Do you know that the statistics show that in almost every respect during the last 20 years there has been a relatively rapid gain in public health in the cities at the expense of the rural communities and there are many rural communities in this country which from the standpoint of death rate and sickness, morbidity, the condition of children's health, are below the corresponding slums in great cities. In the city of New York, for example, the Public Health Administration has been extraordinarily efficient. The infant death rate In the city of New York has come tumbling down during the last 30 years, and now represents one of the best figures to be found in any large city of the world. The Public Health Administration in this city, in the socalled "East Side," the slums district in which you would expect the very worst conditions, the public health measures that have been adopted, infant welfare procedures that have been followed, have shown what remarkable things can be accomplished when a community organization secures expert service, takes advantage of improving the knowledge of public health and then applies that concretely and effectively with the right sort of administrative machinery. But public health has other aspects to which I call your attention for a moment. There has been a good deal said about the international situation, and I am glad to say, that while turmoil has been going on and while I didn't know 3 that you neglected your duties to the extent that you have apparently, I have the testimony of two eminent bankers to the effect that you have neglected your obligations to the inteepational situation. It may relieve you to know that some of your fellow citizens, interested in public health, while you have been deciding just what to do and in what splendid and magnanimous and generous way you are going to show your lit in desire to set straight the world, have been for the last five years doing a good deal in this international field. For example, there has been a League of Nations in Central and South America that has been engaged In eliminating yellow fever from the world and has almost succeeded. Mexico recognized us long ago and work In yellow fever has been .carried on there under the most favorable conditions and with the best sort of feeling. Public health work is being carried on by 51 nations that are organized under the League of Nations. Far be it from me to suggest anything about the League of Nations. I have no knowledge about politics, or what knowledge I have takes the form of an ignorance which I should not wish to expose in public, but this I know: that 51 nations are banded 'to( gether and they have a Public Health Committee, and that Public Health Committee has a sanitary cordon stretching along from the Baltic down toward the Caspian. to hold back the tide of typhus and of plague that otherwise might easily have spread through the Central Empires In to Western Europe and Great Britain itself. This is an actual fact that has been accomplished. and I am proud to say that there has been American contribution of money and of personnel to the work of that committee in order that that work which needs to be done immediately, even while you are dec:ding what should be done economically, the typhus fever and the bubonic plague have singularly failed to wait for these conferences and other matters, but go on Just as though they were not being held. In fact, they remind you almost of other conferences that have been held in Europe. Work has been done and work is now being carried on in the way of interchange of information. Every week I get a bulletin on my desk which reports the conditions of publle health through the League of Nations Committee, the conditions of public health in Europe, very prompt reports, prompter reports than we have ever had before, (Inc to the co-operation through this great international organization, and I am glad to say that in surreptitious ways the United States Government Public Health Service is able to co-operate in this same enterprise without committing itself definitely to any world organization. Apparently it can be done. This ought to gratify you to know that while you are waiting there has been a little something going on. This idea of public health on an International basis has led to the establishment of public health centres for medical investigation. It has led to the migration of people who are interested in public health. Yesterday I attended a luncheon at which thirteen men representing nine different European countries who had come to this country to study public health conditions were present, and who after a year will go back. That sort of thing has been going on. There were nearly 200 of them last year, 150 the year before. If this continues for a few years, don't you see there will not be only bankers spread all over the world in relations of good-will to each other, but there will be public health sanitariums and research workers who will in their modest way supplement your efforts to patch this old world together again. But I would not lay too much stress upon the international aspects. I want to come kick, in conclusion, to the responsibility of all good American citizens for preserving the fundamental and most important asset that we have, namely the physical health, the sound spirit, the loyalty of the great mass of the American people. Fundamental public health work is absolutely essential. It must be done in local communities. The Federal Government may co-operate in various ways, but after all, it has got to be done in local communities, and it must be done first by the locality organized in its political capacity to exercise po- BANKING lice power in the interests of public health administration, and then by voluntary agencies of all kinds. The American lied Cross, the National Society for the Prevention of Tuberculosis, and innumerable other voluntary agencies that co-operate with public authorities, help to create public opinion and translate that public opinion into wise community action, into sound State policy, into fundamental national procedures which, combined with all that voluntary u effprt ought to bring about and will inevitably bring about a sounder physical basis for the people of the United States. A great deal has been accomplished. Industry has done a great deal. You are familiar with the safety movement. What wonderful things have been accomplished by the great American industries, and now they are beg'nning to introduce what is called industrial hygiene, which means looking after the health of the industrial population. I was the other day in one of the greatest of these out in Ohio, a splendid organization, one of the most inspiring that I have ever seen, an organization in which there has not been a strike for 20 years. an organization in wh'ch the officers of the company and the men employed seem to be in the most satisfactory relations of mutual good-will and mutual confidence. When I found that they had one of the most elaborate systems of industrial hygiene that I had seen anywhere, I asked the President to what he attributed the success of the scheme. He answervd this.a lid it seemed tome that he showed himself not only hard-headed, but a man of imagination: "Whenever we take on a new man, we explain this whole health service to him, and then we say,'We do this not because we want to be benevolent to you: we do this not because we are patronizing you: we do this because we think it is sound business.'" A man always went away, he said, happy. We are always afraid somebody uses flimflamming when there is too much profession of generosity and solicitude. I have even been susceptible of that. When somebody is too fond of you, you begin to have to exercise your protective SECTION. 111 powers because you are afraid that something may come Up. American industry has done a great deal and is setting an admirable example, and the time will come when en enlightened American industry will think that it is just as important to see that the industrial population is properly cared for, properly safeguarded, as that the machinery is properly looked after. But, vastly more than that, if we are to accomplish that solidarity, that national good-will, that common loyalty, it must be on the basis of a wholesome fundamental life in every connnunty and that means not only health protection, but it means positive exercise of every kind, it means playground movements, it means the spread of athletics, it means good housing, it means popular entertainment, it means all the things that go to make up a full, well-rounded life for the individual. You are hard-headed business men and you have imaginations. I appeal to your hard-headedness to protect us against fad. Do not accept everything that is urged upon you in.tlie interest of public health. I am sorry to say that there,are people in the field of public health, just as in ,every other field who are carried away by their enthusiasm, who without proper and careful study of the fundamental conditions are sometimes committed to far-reach!ng programs, the economic and social consequences of which have not been carefully thought out. I therefore make no appeal to you to surrender your critical faculties. Whenever a public health proposal is presented to you. examine It carefully, look into it with solicitude, ask expert opinion about it, but when once your hard-headedness is convinced that there is an enterprise which ought to be undertaken, which has a distinct and definite bearing upon the health and welfare of your community, then let your linaginaron play with it, yet your sympathies be loosened and with generosity and with loyalty, and with courage and conviction stand for public health as a fundamental asset of'the community, of the nation and of the world. Industrial and Trade Conditions By FRED I. KENT, Chairman, Commission on Commerce and Marine. The peoplc. af the United States of America from time to time are going to be obliged to render decisions through their Government upon many phases of the great problems which confront the world to-day. If proper judgment is to he exercised, It Is going to be necessary for the people to be able to follow contemporaneous economic history with more or less intelligence. The banker; In the country will naturally be called upon in the future, as they have been in the past, to explain and interpret values of various economic phenomena because the nature of their business naturally fits them to understand such matters more readily than the average of the public mind. With the hope of being able to place before the bankers a picture of the general world conditions as they exist to-day. the Commerce & Marine Commission of the American Bankers Association. In co-operation with the National industrial Conference Board, has had a series of charts prepared covering some of the principal economic movements which show the reason for the difficulties which now stand in the way of rational living in many countries and normal trade and commerce throughout the world. (These charts were hung in the lobby in order thlt the hankers might have an opportunity to study them at their le,sure, hut a few of principal importance were reduced to lantern slides for special presentation as they formed a base from which the economic difficulties of the moment might be studied.) Chart I—Money Cost of World War. The first chart, "Money Cost of World Var." is based on the table on page 11 of French Public Finance which was quoted by Lloyd George in his speech at the Conference of Finance Ministers held in London on August 7 1922, where the estimated costs of the war expressed in dollars at par of exchange for foreign currencies is placed at $223,471 million, pro-rated among the different nations as follows: Inaml 1914-1919. At Par of At Par of Currencies. Central Powers— Currencies. Ontente Allies— $37.585 Germany $49.362 France 14.794 All other 33.985 Italy 20.500 Russia Total 45 944 $83.347 United Kingdom 33.456 United States $223.471 Other active participants___.. 8.500 Grand total Divided between the two war parties it shows that the cost to the Powers was $53,883 million and to the Central Powers $30.162 The red lines on the chart also show how these costs were divided the Powers including the amcunts Which each advanced In los, 66 • nations. The total loans, If paid, would reduce the total the point shown entirely In red. Of the Allies, the expen. United Kingdom at par of currencies and also on the gold bal. in total amount. The United States stands second in actual expenditure, but In per-capita expenditure she comes third. if the Inter-Allied loans were all paid the war would have cost the United Kingdom the largest sum, France next and the United States third. The war cost the Entente Allies and the United States nearly 70% more than it cost the Central Powers. although the Central Nwers expended more per-capita, $215 as against $112, while the Central Powers also expended a larger part of their pre-war wealth, 25j4% as against junta shade over 12% for the Allied Powers. This cost does not Include the propety losses of Prance or other countries, nor the losses to England on account of her merchant shipping, due chiefly to German submarines, which latter amounted on the 1913 price basis to $1.300 million. The total figures representing the cost of the war, $84.000 million,carry very little meaning In themselves because they are so huge. Reduced to terms of the total exports of the United States, this amount represents our trade for the past 37 years. and in terms of the total worli trade figured one way based on the figures of 1913, it represents the entire world commerce for 4 full years. It must be borne in mind that these figures of total trade cover full values and not profits, and it is only from profits that savings can be made with which the Indebtedness incurred by the war can be extinguished. Some of these expenditures were met by taxes as the war went on as will be shown in another chart. This brings us naturally to a consideration of the Inter-Allied Indebtedness due to the war. Chart 2—Inter-Allied Indebtedness. Chart 2 has been prepared to show the interlacing of the Inter-Allied debts. These debts aggregate at par of exchange about $25.000.000.000. 45% $163.782 Total of this amount is due to the United States, about 39% Is due to the United Kingdom, about 12% Is due to France and tbout 4% is due to other naDeduct inter-Allied loans_ _ _ _ 23.658 tions. The United States and Great Britain are net creditors while Prance. $140,124 Italy, Russia and Belgium are the principal net debtors. The greatest Net total she owes Great Ftfita In The chart is prepared from these figures. but after they have been reduced debt of Prance Is to the United States although nations has been materito pre-war price basis by dividing the cost for each country for each year three-fourths as much. Her indebtedness to other reduced since the Armistice. Practically all of the indebtedness of of the war by the wholesale price index number based on 1913 as 10C%. ally The gold or pre-war cost of the war thus arrived at Is $84.045 million. of the United Kingdom is to the United States and she has also largely 112 BANKERS' CONVENTION. paid down her indebtedness to other nations. Italy owes the most to Great Brtitain and about three-fourths as much to the United States and a comparatively small amount to France and other nations. The indebtedness of Russia is in great part to Great Britain although she owes France about one-third as much. In the table is included accrued unpaid interest which for the United States amounts to $1,423,000,000. The figures of interest for other countries are not separately given in their statements. States Grain Corporation, the War Department, Navy Department or the American Relief Administration) arising outthethe of bonds or other obligations of such foreign governments in World War into substitution the coupons or other obligations of such government now or hereafter for held by the United States in such form and of such terms, conditions, date dates of maturity and rate or rates of interest and with such security,or if any, as shall be deemed for the best interests of the United States; provided, that nothing contained in this Act shall be considered to authorize or empower the Commission to extend the time of maturity of any such bonds or other obligations due to the United States by any foreign government beyond June 15 1947, or to INTER-NATION INDEBTEDNESS IN 1922 DUE TO THE WAR OF 1914-1918 annum; provided further, thatfix the rate of interest at less than 434% per when the bond government has been refunded or converted or other obligation of any such Converted into dollars at exchange parities (in dollars-000,000 omitted). ity of the Commission over such refunded oras herein provided, the authorconverted bonds or other obliDue from United gation shall cease." U. K. Other to Bel- Dcmzin- NaKingThe authority of the Commissioners ends at three years United StatesFrance. dom. Italy. Russia. gium. ions. lions. Total. from the date Direct loans 2,934 4,136 1,648 188 347 -__ 133. 9,386 of the passage of the Act, that is on February 10 1925. Surplus war supplies 407 30 --_ 138 575 Relief _ The Members of the Commission. 5 79 84 Grain Corporation --57 57 Secretary of the Treasury Mellon, who serves as Chairman. Secretary of State Hughes. Total principal 3,341 4,136 1,648 193 377 407 10,102 Interest accrued 430 611 243 Secretary of Commerce Hoover. 35 51 53 1,423 Senator Reed Smoot of Utah. Total 3,771 4,747 1,891 228 428 '460 11,525 Representative Theodore E. Burton of Ohio. United Kingdom Direct loans 2,844 ___ 2,450 3,190 44 732 462 9,722 Reparations. Relief 103 103 Bank loans This leads up naturally to the question of Reparation payments which after all represent nothing but governmental indebtedness. Total principal Without 2,844 --- 2,450 3,190 44 732 585 9,825 analysis, the possible desirability of cancellation France of the indebtedness of 186 1,092 '73'7 --- 1,107 3,122 Other Nations Germany for reparations might seem to apply with the same force 252 522 34808 as in connection with the Inter-Allied indebtedness. Actually, however,the y Grand total 6,867 5,269 4,561 4,510 1,209 732 2,132 25,280 do not apply because the loss and suffering caused by the devastation wrought by Germany must be borne either by the Allied nations, Annual Interest Payments Required for Inter-Allied Debts. where Estimated at 5% the total amount required to pay interest Inter-Allied debts the devastation occurred or by the people of Germany. Cancellation of would be $1,190 million. Of this amount there would be dueonall reparation payments would merely transfer the loss and suffering caused to United States $505 million France $155 million by the devastation from the German people to the French people and United Kingdom 490 million Other nations other 40 million Allies. If the devastation wrought by German could be fully restored Involving an increased and due fromthrough the wave of a magic wand, the world would be better off if all annual burden of, say. France $320 million reparation payments were canceled, except such as might, be said to 10% United Kingdom 230 million 7% represent a proper penalty for wanton destruction. Unfortunately the Italy 215 million 20% Russia conditions are such that the cost of the devastation must be met either by 225 million Belgium 60 million Germany or by the Allied countries in which it occurred, and, as between 11% United Kingdom Dominions 36 million the two, under the circumstances, there is only one choice and Gen:luny Other nations 104 million --must pay. Admitting this, the next element that enters into the situation In spite of the controversies which have been carried on in connection is the question as to how much Germany can pay, and regardless of any with the Inter-Allied indebtedness, there would seem to be no question but desires which may exist as to what amount should be paid, there is unquesthat there is the will to pay on the part of the principal nations concerned tionably some certain point beyond which payment is an impossibility. which carries with it more force than is popularly supposed to be true. It must be admitted that it is difficult or impossible for the Allies to ascerOn the other hand, even where there is the will to pay, a strong feeling tain what this figure may be while Germany is in her present chaotic exists that actual payment will be extremely difficult for all nations involved condition. and that it will delay the satisfactory working out of the present The morale of all of the peoples of Europe, and it might be said of the complex economic situation. It is admitted by all sound thinkers that there should world, is so broken from the war strain that there is a natural disposition in be no repudiation of the Inter-Allied loans, but there is a growing feeling every country to feel that every other country is wrong in its attitude. on the part of many that there should be a cancellation of the loans in such This condition can only be corrected as greater sincerity is introduced in part as the war conditions, under which they were spent, would justify. the negotiations between nations and politics are thrown into the backThere are only a few ways in which a nation can pay or obtain foreign ground. exchange with which to pay a foreign debt. These may be summarized as Chart 3 -German Reparations. follows: The chart headed "German Reparations" shows in the first column 1. The surplus of the value of exported goods over inported goods. the claims filed with the Reparation Commission by the various 2. The sale of foreigners of foreign securities (bonds and shares) nations, and already in the second column the gross amount allotted by the Commission, in the debtor country. proThe sale ofjewelry, works of art or other property, bank balances, &c., rated as per the Spa Agreement. It is important in considering the question of reparations clearly abroad by citizens of the debtor State. to bear The sale to citizens of foreign States, against foreign credits, of irre- in mind the fact that they do not include reimbursement for the costs of ble property of any kind-real, personal or mixed-held within the the war. By the terms of the Treaty of Peace signed at Versailles on r State. June 28 1919. he sale of bank notes, State currency of State or municipal or cor- Germany was obligated to make reparation as follows: To civilians for damages to person or property due to all securities of the debtor State in foreign countries. operations of war by the eight or passage money paid by foreign countries for transportation for in full. two groups of belligerents wherever arising, to be compensated ships of the debtor country. To prisoners of war for mlltreatment and to allied governments for cost et Insurance premiums or foreign exchange profits from any other of assistance to prisoners of war and dependents. To members of the armed forces, victims of war and to their dependents, xtended the nationals of foreign countries including expenditures pensions capitalized on the basis of the French army scale. To families and dependents of mobilized persons-separation allowances, ge created by remittances from foreign countries to the nahe amount for each year to be capitalized on the basis of the French army scale. tonals of the debtor country. • 9. The delivery of goods created (grown, produced, manufactured, &c.) In additions to reparation payments proper, Germany is obliged to pay within the debtor country to the creditor country against merely a book All costs under the armistice and treaty. For food and raw materials furnished by the Allies. credit. For costs of the amy of occupation. 10. The creation of public or private works within the creditor country These payments to be a charge prior to that for reparation. by nationals of the debtor country supported by the debtor country Reparations fall under three heads: against book credit by the creditor country. First: Restitution of objects removed but still in being. 11. By shipment of precious metals. Second: Reparation in kind for property destroyed. From a study of these items in connection with the foreign trade of the Third: Financial restitution. nations concerned in the Inter-Allied indebtedness, together with the (This last is the form of restitution generally spoken of as "reparations.") various services which they ordinarily are able to render the nations of The determination of the amount of the cash payment to be made was other countries, it is easily seen that if full payment of all the Inter-Allied deferred to May 1 1921, and was devolved upon the Reparation Commisindebtedness is to be demanded, we may find that we are asking the impossi- sion, except that Germany was required before that date to pay 20 billion ble which if true will tend to hold back the ecnomic recovery of all nations gold marks, to be credited against the amount finally assessed. for an indefinite period. On Feb. 12 1921 the Allied Powers claiming reparations filed claims with The Swiss delegates at the Genoa Conference said: the Reparation Commission aggregating about 197 billion gold marks "There is no hope of restoring the currencies and re-establishing the economic well-being of Europe until the problem of international debts ($46.890 million). In June 1920 representatives of the Allied Powers met at Spa and has been boldly faced. . . . One country alone is purely a creditor, agreed namely, the United States of America. The majority are both creditors upon a percentage basis for the distribution of the gross amount to be and debtors. Taking into account the reparation debt Insofar as payments assessed against Germany by the Reparatiorf Commission. These perhave been made, certain countries have balances in their favor while others have a debit balance. The most heavily charged country is Ger- centages were as follows: many. Many American financiers and business men have realized that if France 52% I Japan 0 Portugal 22 America is again to find in Europe a customer with whom she may effect British Empire 0% 0 10 o All others exchanges on a broad basis as in the past, the European financial situation Italy 63i 0 will have to be stabilized. This process would be greatly facilitated and Belgium 8% Total accelerated by the reduction or by the complete remittance of the debt 100% owed to the United States by her war associates." On May 6 1921 the Reparation Commission assessed the total amount to The Swim seem to have struck the key-note of the whole situation in be paid at 132 billion gold marks ($31,416 million). When the percentages the above sentence, "If America is again to find in Europe a customer with allowed the Allies in the Spa Agreement were applied to the reduced total whom she may effect exchanges on a broad basis as in the past,the European of reparations finally demanded from Germany, it resulted in an increase financial situation will have to be stabilized." of 1-15 to the amount to be paid France,a decrease of 5-15 to Great Britain, a decrease of 4-15 to Italy, and a decrease of over 5-6 of the original claim United StatesiDebt Refunding Commission. of all others. It must be borne in mind that these figures are only approxiThe Debt Refunding Bill was signed by the President February 10 1922. mate,as they had to be converted at varying exchange rates, but they show The Bill provides as follows: the situation in principle. "Subject to the approval of the President, the Commission is authorized to refund or convert and to extend the time of payment of the principal or -Germany's Obligations. Chart 4 the interest, or both, of any obligation of any foreign government now held by the United States or any obligation of any foreign government hereafter The chart headed "Germany's Obligations under the Peace Treaty from received by the United States (including obligations held by the United Armistice to Dec. 31 1922" shows (a) the amounts required to reimburse BANKING SECTION. 113 -Government Receipts. Chart 8 to Germany acadvances made by the Allies, (b) the amounts chargeable to meet the These total expenditures by the four Governments were met with funds of the armies of occupation, and (c) the amount required count bonds for the last obtained from loans and revenue, the relations between which are shown charge for interest and sinking fund on the reparation shows the amounts in the chart on Government receipts, which also covers the United States. six months of 1921 and for the year 1922. The chart unpaid and the Great Britain, France and Germany. It will be seen that promptly after due under each head, the amounts paid, the amounts . There entering the war the United States increased its taxation in tremendous perdeferred by permission of the Reparation Commission amounts but as yet un- centage in addition to the huge amounts which it borrowed. The total is also shown for the record (the yellow line) the estimated in ceded territories for revenue of Great Britain was raised every year from the opening of the war, realized value of former German State properties Commis- and its borrowing peak was reached during the war. In contrast to the which the new owners are obligated to account to the Reparation on reparation action of Great Britain, it will be seen that both France and Germany obsion, amounts finally received will be credited to Germany tained their funds to carry on the war entirely from borrowing, as their account. 31 1922 revenue decreased after the declaration of war. Since the Armistice, the The.chart shows that out of the $3,199 million due to Dec. payments has been revenue in France received from taxation, based on 1913 prices, has been $2,288 million has been paid and the blue covering the which such increasing annually in large percentages, whereas in Germany it has redivided in the blue lines below the circle to show the purposes to materials mained practically stationary. In both the United States and Great Britpayments were put. The largest amount paid went for food and the cost of ain there has been a reduction of the national debt and revenue has overwhich had been advanced by the Allied nations. Then comes amounting taken borrowing, whereas in both France and Germany borrowing still the armies of occupation, for which payments have been made million to the continues and in large percentage through increases in the floating debts. to $850 million, and there is still due on this account $254 on, and the While there is no question but that the methods pursued by the United United States. Only $414 million is available for rehabilitati States and Great Britain in filling their war chests were vastly better for application of all of this sum for that purpose is doubtful. Commis- those nations than the methods of France and Germany, yet it must be There will be no more cash payments this year, the Reparation gold marks borne in mind that war is no respecter of economics and that practically sion having indefinitely deferred the payment of 830 million marks ($64 throughout the war there were in the hands of the enemy 6,000 square miles ($197 million), while the payment of a further 270 million gold for six of the north of France,from which normally large amounts of taxes could million) on which Belgium has a prior claim has been deferred it is have been obtained. Before the war there came from this section 74% of -say to February or March 1923. As to this latter amount, months but that the coal mined in France and 92% of the iron ore, and there was manufacunderstood that Belgium will be paid at the end of the six months, and a tured 81% of the iron,60% of the steel, 80% of the woolen goods. and 70% Germany has arranged with the Reichsbank, the Bank of England in eighteen of the cotton goods produced in France. Dutch bank to advance the amount against her notes, payable gold. months, the foreign banks to be secured by ear-marked Reicbsbank -20 Countries. -Foreign Trade Chart 9 of 1,512 There is still due on 1922 account, payable in goods, the sum As the difficulties of carrying on foreign trade that have developed since payments in goods which may million gold marks ($308 million), less any the war have played such a tremendous part in the economic troubles of already have been made this year but not made public. claim Europe, and as such troubles must be worked out largely through the reFinally the Reparation Commission has the already mentioned formerly establishment of a natural trade between the countries, no study of the presagainst the nations which received physical additionsfrom territory in these terri- ent world economic situation can give a clear idea of the porblems involved belonging to Germany for the value of the State properties a realizable without a study of foreign trade. A chart has therefore been prepared of tories. These properties are very roughly estimated to have the world foreign trade covering twenty countries. of 2,504 million gold marks ($596 million). value be carried out at In 1913 the aggregate value of international trade as reported by the While the rebuilding of the devastated regions should be made to reduce United States Department of Commerce was approximately $41,392 milthe expense of Germany, yet every effort possible should costs of the Armies lion, of which the imports were valued at $21,540 million and the exports the total payments which Germany must make. The this item. at $19,852 million, the difference being due to the C.I.F. valuation of imare tremendous and much saving should be made in of Occupation payment of reparations ports and their stricter control. For the years 1920 and 1921 complete If a new and final plan should be agreed upon for the actually exist, and data are available for twenty countries, the combined trade of which in on a basis possible to meet under conditions as they pay, there is reason to 1913 was valued at $31.593 million, representing 76.3% of the total world Germany accepted such plan with full intent to might be rapidly reduced trade. In 1920 the trade of these twenty countries reached a value of $55,believe that the costs of the Armies of Occupation 718 million, an increase of 70% over 1913. In 1921 it declined to $31,634 and finally eliminated. indebtedness and million, or approximately to its pre-war value. The figures of trade for Consideration of the cost of the war, the Inter-Allied of the taxation which the first two or three months of 1922 show that the world is still suffering the German reparations leads up to the vital question which still remains from the effects of the war. is necessary to meet that part of the cost of the war obligations of the A comparison by value shows that international trade in 1921 was about unpaid and which is shown in the internal and external Not all countries register the weight of goods imthe same as in 1913. governments involved. ported and exported. However, the figures available for some of the leadto warrant the conclusion that the physical volume of United States. -Taxationing countries appear Chart 5. the United trade in each of the two post-war years shown was only slightly larger than The first chart on taxation shows the growth of taxation in over 1920 of the Federal, one-half the volume of trade in 1913 and that the increase in 1921 States from 1913 to 1920, and also the proportionate growth taxation was insignificant. As stated by the Department of Commerce: State and local taxes. It will be noted that the increase in Federal art still abnormal, being still under the shadow "The present conditions in State and due to the war was almost immediately followed by an increase A return to normal can hardly be expected until Europe of living of the World War. the recovery will probably be slow. During the years has recovere., and local taxes. Such increase was caused partly by the higher cost expenditures from 1910 to 1913 Europe furnished on the average 49.6.9', or nearly one-. and partly from the psychological effect of huge Federal their half, of United States imports and took 61.7%, or more than three-fifths, which naturally induced State and local governments to increase do not adequately on the of United States exports. These figures for by taking 60% ofexpress the the exports budgets beyond what was actually necessary and without objection to our foreign trade, country. importance of Europe Europe enabled those countries to purchase in our of all other countries of the people because spending had become rife throughout the part s own markets. In 1920 our trade with our North American neighbors and Before the war, taxes levied by national, State and local government t figured to with the Far East incrused relatively much more than our trade with amounted to $2,229 millions, in which the Federal Governmen in our trade declined, although it has to $8,918 Europe, and the share of•EuropeIn the nine months ended March 1922 the extent of 30.6%; by 1919-1920 the national tax bill had grown proved somewhat since then. with 64.3% of Federal origin. In 1920-1921 the total tax burden Europe supplied 32.7% of our imports and received 54.5% of our exports. millions, revenues; State and Europe is still our best customer, but our imports from European countries fell to $8,489 millions, due to the decline of Federal ago. the preceding are both absolutely and relatively smaller than eight yearsour competitors. local burdens showed, however, an increase of 12.8% over The European market is likewise of great importance for constitutes a very European countries took 76% of the German exports in 1913, 82.4% In-_ year. This expansion in State and local expenditures -` 1920 and 79.6% in 1921. The trade of the United Kingdom with Russia real danger against which this country must be on its guard. and Germany in 1913 was valued at $1,016.491,000, representing 14.9%, In 1921 British trade or more than one-seventh, of the total British trade. Danzig, Germany and -Taxes and National Income Per Capita-United States. Chart 6. with Russia, Finland, the Baltic Republics, Poland, the Luxemburg was only $359,539,000. or 4.9% of the total and 30% of that s The next chart shows taxation in relation to national inconie also in re-exports of foreign merchanand total trade was represented by transit goods and merchants lay so much stress United States. The variations in both the national income dise. These figures explain why the British cover the period from the beginning on the economic rehabilitation of Russia." taxation are on a per capita basis and of the World War. While the national income has been growing, the tax WORLD FOREIGN TRADE OF TWENTY COUNTRIES. burden has increased much more rapidly, with the result that in the latest in 1921; in percentages of total trade of the twenty year taxes (national, State and local combined) represented 14.7% of the In order of importance countries ("Commerce Reports," May 22 1922. p. 504). national income, as compared with 6.4% in 1913-1914. In view of the fact of exchange) (Figures for 1920 and 1921 converted into dollars at average rate that the bulk of governmental expenditures paid out of taxes constitute a 1913. 1921 % 1913, 1920. 1021. -such as the main107 21.62 diversion of national funds into unproductive channels 23.60 23.08 United Kingdom 164 13.54 25.14 22.11 tenance of the military and naval establishments, interest on the war debt, United States 114 9.35 10.06 10.63 created is a serious one France -the situation thereby pensions, soldiers' relief, &c. 39 15.72 5.43 6.07 129 from the standpoint of national welfare, although in so far as pensions and Germany 3.55 4.39 4.57 Canada 204 2.15 4.02 relief for soldiers are concerned, it is an expense that the nation willingly Japan 4.37 96 4.37 4.45 4.17 bears. British India 80 5.05 2.99 4.05 The value to the United States of the President's veto of the bonus bill Belgium 43 8.87 3.23 3.84 Netherlands 97 is clearly shown in this chart4 3.10 3.14 3.02 Argentina 127 2.34 1.94 2.97 Australia 10.34 11.41 s. 11.12 -Government Expenditure Chart 7 Nine other countries --100.00 100.00 The expenditures for which taxation has already been raised or must be 100.00 British Dominions, levied in the future are given in the next chart, covering the United States, 129 3.55 4.39 4.57 The chart on national in- Canada 96 the United Kingdom, France and Germany. 4.37 4.45 4.17 British India 127 the part of these expenditures which still Australia 2.34 1.94 debtedness in the appendix shows 2.97 161 0.66 0.73 1.08 remain to be paid. The increase in the proportion of the total expendi- New Zealand 131 0.94 1.34 1.22 tures made necessary by the war loans shown in the "debt chafge" (that is Egypt of South Africa., 0.94 91 1.04 0.96 Union interest on the public debt) in blue, which in all four countries practically 12.90 expenditures for civil purposes, is a real 13.81 14.93 equals the present Government 107 21.62 23.80 the United Kingdom 23.08 object lesson in the viciousness of excessive Government borrowing and way it increases taxation. It will be noted that the present "debt charge" 34.52 37.61 38.01 British Total in all four countries is more than double the civil expense before the war. the It is interesting to note from this chart the wonderful showing of The expenditures of France for reconstruction which she hopes to recover United Kingdom, which in 1913 had 21.62% of the world's trade, in 1920 One from Germany, have also nearly equalled her civil expenditures. which wfie States s lies in the fact 2.3.8% and in 1921-23.08%. The trade of the United exceptionally unfortunate phase of the German expenditure but dropped chart, only 1334% of the total in 1913 increased in 1920 to 25.14% that the amounts expended under the Peace Treaty, as shown in the to 22.11%. France also shows an increase in its proportion of back in 1921 so far accomplished practically nothing toward meeting the costs have and again in part toward of the world's trade from 9.35% in 1913 to 10.06% in 1920 reconstructing devastated regions, but have gone in such large 1921 when it was 10.63% of the total. The trade of Germany, on the meeting the costs of the armies of occupation. 114 BANKERS' CONVENTION. other hand, fell off from 15.72% in 1913 to 5.43% in 1920. hut increased great boom in world trade, together with vast purchases by European slightly In 1921 to 6 07% The trade of the Netherlands fell off propor- countries of food and raw material required because of the devastion of tionately as its trade is normally made up in large part from the trade of war until the peak of their ability to buy on credit was reached in 1919. Germany which passes through it. Japan shows a slightly better condition Then for a time they could only buy as they could find goods to pay for both in 1920 and 1921. their imports which brought the not export total down inimsdiately until The dependence of the United States upon its foreign trade to take care the break in commodity prices In 1920 reduced the tote, values of both of its surplus capacity to produce and manufacture is so great that in exports and imperts, resulting, of course. in a Trutt smaller net export addition from the standpoint of our need to humanity. Is the very positive total. The inertia of our export trade such that it continued for a need to America of the prompt restoration of the buying power of Europe. time after 1920 in large value than our imports Meet' were Immediately curtailed because' ref the lack of markets wh'ch develyped in this country. Chart 10—Foreien Trade—United Slates. This condition naturally lasted only for a shell time and the balance of The fleet chart on our own Foreign Trade covers that of the United States trade In favor ef the United States immediately worked to lower levels by grand dividions. Particular attention is called to the growing increase until now it is back to pre-war figures. in Imports from European countries. It is very doubtful if the people of the United States realize the tremendous proportion of our exports which go Chart 12—Values of European Currenries. to Europe which is shown so clearly in the red lines under exports. One of the principal difficulties against which foreign trade has had to The relative importance of Europe is found to he going (lown, however, contend is the fluctuating foreign exchanges. These fluctuations have because of her loss of buying power and whereas 55% of our total trade was been caused by unbieia need foreign trade and inflation. and in order to•obtain formerly with Europe, It was In 1921 under 45%. The North American a picture of inflatioq as it exists in Europe, a chart has been prepared in Group, which was next In importance before the war and produced about the form of a map of Europe in which the countries whose currencies at 75% 24% of our total trade has gone up to nearly 27%. Trade with the South or over of the mint par are in white, those between 1% and 75% In different American group has held unchanged at 8% of our total trade. On the other shades of red or pink, and those under 1% in black. , Great Britain is the hand, our Asiatic and Oceanic trade has considerably increased, going up only one of the European countries which were at war whose currency is from about 12% of our total trade to nearly 19%. over 75% of par, the other countries in this class being the neutral nations The decrease in value of exports and imports since 1920 was duo to de- of Europe with the exception of Norway where the depreciation is a little crease in prices as well as decrease In actual volume. greater. Prance and Italy have controlled their currency inflation extremely well. a itheaigh their floating debt has increased to refficuit proporChart 11—Value of Exports and Imports—United States. tions The comartee tinder I % include the Central Powers. Germany This chart shows that since August, 1914, exports have at all times and Austred awl their allies, together with Poland, Rumania and Russia exceeded imports. and the independem countries which were formerly included within the The total value of net exports of merchandise from July. 191.1, to June, boundaries of Russia. 1922. inclusive, was about 21 billions of dollars. This amount has been paid With these charts in mind a more comprehensive understanding of the for by loans of the United States Government to Foreign Governments. by economic situation on Europe and the United States, together lsith their Importation of specie 'gold and silver) and by the so-called Invisible items— trade relatiens can be obtained from study a of she additionat charts (hangmoney sent home by foreigners In the United States money spent by Ameri- ing In the, lobby,. can tourism abroad, payments for shipping on foreign vessels Ac. The A careful analysts of the economic forces which have resulted in the conbalance which has not been paid for—the "Unfunded Balance"—has been ditions which the charts portray carries with it the stern conviction that roughly estimated by the Federal Reserve Board as approximately $3,400,- It Is the deity of the people of the United States to Identity themselves with 000.000 on .fanuary 1 1922. but Professor Williams of the Harvard Economic the problems of reparations through representation upon the Reparation Service believes this to be too high an estimate, lie places the amount Commission, to use the trading force which they hold Oireugh the Indebtdue on balance fur 1921 as under SI billion. edness of the Allies to the United States, to cc-operate with foreign GovernIn this chart it is interesting to note the gener-1 parr:Mel trend which ments in helping them control the destructive forces being exercised upon shows as it does the tremendous force which the necessity for our exports them because of the broken morale of all peoples that has resulted in unexercised to hula up our imports in spite dl the almost insurmountable balanced governmental budgets and inflation that would otherwise have difficulties with which the nations of Europe were confronted In preduning been unnecessary and at the proper time at the request of the Allies to a surplus for expert. This was also shown in the previeus chart. The extend such credit to Germany on a basis of priority to reparations as effect upon foreign trade of the crash in prices if commodities in 1920 will enable her to balance her budget, • stop inflation and help her meet is clearly shown though an almost perpendicular drop in exports and reparation payments. The time for such action on the part of the United imports during a perh d of a few months. States has not yet arrived as It is necessary for European statesmen to The history of the war and its effects are wonderfully shown in the por- bring their countries into better agreement with each other and to eliminate don of the chart envering "net exports and Imports." It first shows the the many needless sources of friction which still exist before credits can demand of the Allies for goods before the United States entered the war, safely be extended. But, if the United States has the will to do its part together with the increasing difficulty which they had In making payment when the misunderstandin gs in Europe have been sufficiently cleared up to for such Imports with their own exports until in spite of their necessity warrant and this attitude is positively made known In Europe it will have their imports from us dropped just before the United States declared war, a tremendous influence in accelerating the development of conditions after which there was an immediate increase In our exports made possible which will lead with certainty to the return of normal trade between the througa the loans which we made the Allies. After the Armistice came the nations with its many blessings to all peoples. COMMITTEE AND OFFICERS'REPORTS-BANKING SECTION Annual Address of the President, Thomas P. McAdams, Vice-President Merchants Nat, Bank, Richmond. Mg merely selfish motives, there comes the distinct call for its to use our abundant resources, the strength of our isolation, and our inherent ability to lead and inspire. Permanent prosperty for the United States can come if this country "It may be that Europe is not yet ready to have us participate or to uses her "resources In brain and money to help bring about a practical accept conditions which necessarily must be laid down as a bests for our solution of the chaotic situation now threatening to destroy the economic co-operation, but even so this does not relieve us of the obligat, to offer on life of Europe." declared Thomas B. McAdams. President of the American to assist and so soon as possible to outline, as we see them, the essentials 13ankers Association, speaking this morning before the general session to an ultimate solution of the situation." of the annual convention. These essentials. In the opinion of Mr. McAdams. must be the further Isolation and selfishness are not qualities of the true American asserted reduction of armaments the balancing of the French budget, realization Mr. McAdams, anti then added: "I do not believe there Is anything by France of the unlikelihood of new German military aggression, and In the history or ideals of our people which can justify our failure to help the prenaration by all countries for a readjustment of reparations and In a situation where our counsel and assistance are so essential to tho Inter-Allied debt "upon a basis which fully recegnizes the rights of the restoration of world order." creditor and which will relieve the immediate burden of the debtor Mr. McAdams summed up existing conditions in the world, four years countries." after the Armistice, "while we stand Idly by. neither ,fferIng assistance "England in discussing her indebtedness." slid Mr. McAdams. "should nor making a suggestion." England, he said. despite the susnicion cast not overlook the some four hundred thousand square miles of new terupon her motives, must be regarded as a stabilizing influence "in pro- ritory she gained through the war and It must be remembered that America tecting the wrecks of Eureopean Statehood from further demoralization." settled upen a basis of receiving nothing except the ultimate repayment France cannot be blamed entirely for refusing "to assent to Germany's of money advanced. reconstructing her world trade at the expense of French industry," de"Complicated as the situation appears, it should bo possible, through clared Mr. McAdams. "butt, even so, the Allied nations, If they would makine a fair analysis of assets and liabilities, to prepare a readjusted maintain the civilization for which they fought, must throw aside unneceee balance sheet which will prove acceptable and furnish a proper starting saey prejudices and reach an agreement as to modifying reparation payments point for the re-awakening of international trade. which will fairly care for the needs of France and at the same time not "Though often deliberate in action, we have never failed to respond utterly demoralize the industriai life of Germany." ' and render the maximum of service when once convinced of our duty. After expressing the optimism he felt for the success of the November Such an opportunity is the present emergency. . . . The determinaconference, suggested for discussion of world problems. Mr. McAdams tion of our International policy, whatever it may be. should he based said: upon the broadest possible conception of service and should not be re"Has not the time arrived for the United States to cast aside her policy stricted or hamnered by party platform or political expediency." of aloofness and throw herself whole-heartedly into the situation, that a Speaking of the internal problems of the United ,States. Mr. McAdams cure for social disorder and financial demoralization may be speedily declared that the two tendencies of the day which require the most careful devised? We may picture for ourselves all the prosperity which is in diagnosis and handling are the following: our grasp to-day so far as our international situation Is concerned, but Class movements--"the outgrowth of social and economic unrest, we must realize there can be no permanence in it unless a sound foundation which tend to advance the interests of one group at the expense of the can be laid upon which the structure of future international commerical nation as a whole." relations may be safely built." ' Paternalism in Government—"the assumption that Government fa Considering the case merely from the selfish point of view, said Mr. the final resting place for all the trials and tribulations of the people." McAda me—the need for world markets for excess products of our farms Mr. McAdams. in taking up class movements, admitted that many and factories—' there must come a realization of the need fer our be- changes which have been made at the behest of the working men in the coming aggressively active, rather than passively submissive. Transcend- last quarter of a century have benefited not only the men themselves BANKING SECTION. 115 n certain activities of the Treasury Department in connectio his fear at certain of the tendencies • It referred and but employers. but he further declared with the sale of Treasury Savings Certificates to the Trust Company labor, lie said: organized ; of the day among the leaders of incidents as the recent massacre Savings Bank Divisions the Special Committee "Americans will not condone such Conf:rmed the appointment by the President of work were ruthlessly murdered because they dared to be known as the Banking and Curat Herrin where men . Consultation, of the Economic Policy Commission ed by others. . . In positions voluntarily surrender e; contrasted with commercial warfare are rency Committe on of the co operation. arbitration., as Appointed a committee to outline plans for a suitable celebrati ents, effectively solve our industrial disagreem means which can most y Fiftieth Anniversary of this Association in 1925; ative machiner to confer with a similar be difficult to devise a piece of administr and it should not. Appointed a Committee on Canadian Relations in dispute and be clothed with the • which will fairly determine questions of the Cangdian Bankers' Association: • all people, to enforce its conclusions. committee Secretary of authority, based upon the interests of Confirmed the appointment of the Secretary and Assistant de a local incident. but- through nation-wi "The 4trike is no longer should he made the Commerce and Marine Commission; to the Brazilian International become a menace to the public welfare and agreement has Confirmed the appointment of delegates people against other combinations in subject to the laws protecting the Industrial difficulties are not Centennial Exp.isition: ral Credits; restraint of trade; . . . Our present Cord'rmed the appointment of the Committee on Agricultu -worn fight between labor and capital as to act as Assistant so much Incidents In the .time Designated Deputy-Manager Edgar E. Mouatjoy labor, organized and unorganized." Federal Legislation; e on between employment of capital and Secretary of the Committe ity of consolidating Enccuragement of individual effort in the Appointed a committee to consider the advisabil who, while on this subject said: to•form a central financbrains was advocated by Mr. McAdams, the Associatian library with other financial libraries of the on of savings deposits by departments York; "The active solicitati downtown district of New field of private institutions ial library In the the direction of the Government is an encroachment upon the Authorized the preparation and pubilcation. under pulley. . . . wholly out of accord with an ideal national Policy Commission. of a booklet setting out the lundamental a distinct service in relieving Economic "The War Finance Corporation performed or money and banking; . but the permanent operation principles to cover reserve a temporary but mule the less acute situation Directed that interest earned on securities, set aside would establish on would lie economically disastrous and repective funds; of such a corporati of a Government funds. be credited to their of the ideals ding e a precedent in class legislation destructive And approved the report of the Finance Committe recommen August 31 1923. of, by and for all .the people." Ger- appropriations for the fiscal year ending cf the French RevoIntion, Russia. an outline. much of which Mr. McAdams Cited tile cases The report of the Administrative (70nunittee. what happens when the Governwas received by the Executive conned. The Council many and ancient Rome as illustrations of great control of industrial has just been given, Committee for stifles individual initiative and assumes too Mont at its Spring Meeting approved the report of the the Ctimmit tee en Memand social activities. additional appropriations and filled a vacancy on he said,"we have not yo gone so far as contained In the address of "From a national standpoint," to the recommendation toward paternalism is suf- bership. Pursuant e of twenty-five, representing all 'lasses or bankto be in imminent, danger, but the tendency t effort to determine the l'resident. a Committe in evidence to justify us in making an intelligen sections of the United States, was appointed to conn.: all ficiently perform and how far the ing institutio the American ['tankers just what activities the Government should sider the question of removing the headquarters of oppertunity." on and instructed to report, at a individual shall be accorded freedom of on, Mr. Association from New York to Washingt and accomplishments oft. he Associati On recommendation of the Administrative In outlini g the history future meeting of the Connell. ion of bankers In all phases and the maximum McAdams pleaded'for more active participat Committee, the fly-laws of the Association were amended of their community life: dues to Canadian banks fixed at 6250. in American finance is the banker increasing the membership "The most pusillanimous figure The ("outwit also amended the By-Laws the recomconvictions upon a public question of the Agrieuli twat Commission from seven to twelve: approved who is afraid to express his honest agree with him." said Mr. regard to the princihe fears some depositor may not mendation of the Special Committee on Taxation In because nded the ple underlying Section 5219 U. S. Revised Statues: reetimme McAdams. ion as presented by amendment to Artiele IX. Section I. of the Constitut and disapproved the proposed amendment e: Administrative Administrative theArticle X of the Committe ion. Constitut to Report of Executive Council and Committee. These amendments and the recommendation of the Council requiring your confirmation are not recited here for the reason that they will be brought ent of the last convenon in regular order. Executive Manager Shepherd: Since the adjournm held meetings before this Conventi Committee has tion of this Association. your Administrative Springs. Montreal and New in Los Angeles, Washington, White Sulphur of the Committee on State Taxation, by Ernest York. four rommis.sions. comIt confirmed the President's appointment to the members of the Executive mittees. Territorial Vice-Presidents and the Council at large; ded by the Finance Approved the salaries and appropriations recommen Committee: House to hold the flex t Accepted the invitation of the New York Clearing convention in the City of New York; the Protective DepartDisposed of routine business in connection with Opinions, and the investment, interest on bank balances, Digest of Legal ment of temporarily Idle funds; as Executive Manager Accepted the resignation of Guy E. Bowerman and elected F. N. Shepherd as his successor: various national business Authorized the President to invite executives of ii era of this Atanciation: organizations to meet in conference with the off regarding the sedurtion of Appointed a committee to draw a resalutIon ion to the Federal Reserve foreign balances in figuring reserves, for presentat Finance Committes; Board and the Chairman of the Senate and Rouse concerning A. B. A. Approved the report of the Special Committee Report J. Perry, Chairman, President First Fond du Lac National Bank, Fond du Lac, Wis. Your Committee on State Taxation has the following rept irt to make: The Virginia Bank Taxation decision has had a farreaching effect throughout the country with reference to the taxation of all bank stock. While the decision itself only affected the taxation of national bank stock, the fact that there is no State that has one system of taxation for national banks and another for State banks makes this decision of vital Importance • to both national and State hanks alike. Taxing conditions in many of the States are somewhat In a chaotic condition, due to the fact that there has grown up, over mu period of years, a total disregard for Section 5219, U. S. R. S., by many State Legislatures, who have raised the assessment of bank stock, while the assessment of"other moneyed caplal In the hands of individual citizens" in some States has totally disappeared, while in others the tax has become nominal. 'This inequality has been borne by the banks for many years, the taxing in many authorities raising assessments and rates from time to time until to resort States the taxes imposed became onerous, and it was necessary Travelers Checics relief, which came by a decision of the United States Sue with the National to the musts for " which Referred to the State Bank Division for conferenc preme Court in what. is known as the "Virginia Bank Tax Deesion, resolutian of the latter relating to branch 'banks: national bank stock should not be called Bank Division the um of 10% decision made it imperative that honorari capital in Voted the General Counsel and Assistant Counsel an upon to bear a heavier burden of taxation than other moneyed banks. of the net profits of the Digest of Legal Opinions; the hands of individual citizens competing with national decision they e Committee; Adopted new rules of the Protectiv When the' several State Tax Commissions learned of this Division Edge Law Corby having introduced Automatically assigned to the National Bank immediately asked Congress to amend the present law which are members of this Association; porations McFadden Bill. H.R. 9579, which provided that e and Marine Com- what was known as the Referred the bill regarding free ports to the Conunerc as.sess national bank stock as they might elect, necessary action to the several States could than that imposed mission and the Committee on Federal Legislation for with the onty provisa that the rate should not be greater a validating clause bring about its enactment: upon State banks and trust companies and also asked for immediAnd, adopted a resolution expressing the desirability of making and collected. Association to validate all back taxes assessed which bankers from ately effective the machinery for closer contact between this At a conference held in Washington on Feb. 6 last, at was followed by a and Governmental agencies. some twenty-five different Stater: were present. wh'ch a referendum vote taken in January, the Administrative Committee hearing before the House Committee on Banking and Currency, a counterBy e unanimously approved the compromise made by the Special Committe which maintained Section 5219 subn. amendment was offered by the bangs, Court, on Postal Savings In regard to the proposed postal savings legislatio as it had been construed by the deesion of the Supreme e appointed to meet with the representa- stantially income basis in the The Special Protective Committe and further provided for the taaxtion of banks upon an of the Pinkerton National Detective Agency to ascertain the character States that had income tax laws. tives the sub-committee of of its service and Investigate the charges made by It. reported that These amendments were under consideration by the nt, finally recomcharges against the efficiency of our protective service were not substanti the House from February to June, and the amendme that no change in agency be made. ated and recommended and passed by the House on June 14, provided d mended by the committee The plan for bi-weekly conferences of the headquarters'staff as submitte bank stock by the several States "should not be at to that taxation of national by the Executive Manager was approved. The proposed amendment assessed upon other moneyed capital in the hands is to make loans upon a greater rate than the Federal Reserve Act permitting national banks of such State, coming into competition with the business bank members of the Federal of individual citizers a tax in lieu of a property real estate upon the same conditions as State of national banks," and "that in any State where System was approved. The principle involved in Senate Bill 3531 tax is assessed upon the net income derived from such other moneyed capReserve as In the Federal Reserve System relating to the membership of State banks may in lieu of a tax on the shares imposed upon the hank Chairman of the Banking and ital, such State of the bank, but such tax shall presented by letter from Senator McLean, an income tax assessed upon the net income e of the Senate. was approved, contingent upon its is assessed upon the net income of such other moneyed Currency Committe A resolution not be greater than with the wishes of the Federal Reserve Board. meeting only ntal interference with private capital. difference in the amendment passed by the House and the was passed protesting against Governme The and Post Office Departments to words "coming into business and requesting the Treasury amendment offered by the bankers was the added advertisements and similar publicity likely to result in competition with the business of na/Umal banks," and it added a retroactive discontinue paid conservative banking institutions 1 1917. but only to the exthe transfer of accumulated savings from provision legalizing back taxes levied since .lan. of the amendto the Government. that such taxes would be in accordance with the provision Administrative Committee handled various tent At Its summer meeting the ed law. was passed by the House and sent to the Senate, relating to the Association; routine business About the time this bill the Digest of Legal Opinions to is known as the Kellogg Confirmed the sale of 6,053 copies of there was introduced by Senator Kellogg what Thomas B. Patont 116 BANKERS' CONVENTION. Bill, S-3695, which took the House bill as a basis and struck out the words Payment of Stale Checks. "in the hands of individual citi ens of such State coming into competition , with At the spring meeting of the Executive Council your Committee recomthe business of national banks," and substituted the words, "employed in mended that a draft of statute be prepared in technical form by the General the business of banking." The Kellogg bill thus became a menace to the Counsel, the essential feature of which is to give a bank the option to ,refuse banks, for it simply wrote back into the amendment in no uncertain terms to pay a check when presented after one year from its date and that the enactwhat the Tax Commissioners had been clamoring for, I. c., an amendment ment of such draft be urged upon the State Legislatures through State bank which would accord to the States the right to tax national banks as they organizations. This recommendation was approved by the Executive Council. might see fit, with no other proviso or safeguard except that national banks should not be taxed higher or at a greater rate than State banks. Your Legal Effect of Check Certification. committee feels that this would be absolutely no protection at all to national A decision of the Supreme Court of Illinois rendered in October 1921 in and State banks alike,for the reason that State banks receive their charters National City Bank of Chicago vs. National Bank of the Republic of Chicago, from the various States, and they can be taxed by the States in any manner Is to the effect that under the Negotiable Instruments Act, a bank which ceror at any rate that the State may see fit, and if the Kellogg bill should tifies a check upon which the payee's name has been erased and the name of prevail it would be in the power of the States to pass such legislation as they the forger inserted as payee, is responsible upon the check to a subsequent might choose governing the taxation of State banks, and apply such taxa- holder in due course who acquires the check through indorsement of the paytion direct to national banks. Your committee would reiterate that it is firmly of the opinion that every ee's altered named by the forger. The effect of this decision is to place upon bank, whether it be a State bank or a national bank, is vitally intereted in the bank which certifies a check that has been altered after issue with respect to payee or amount or in any other particular, the responsibility to make good maintaining the principles laid down in the Virginia Tax Decision. The the check as altered, to a subsequent innocent purchaser. There is danger that banks of this Association are not looking to secure favor or benevolence at the Negotiable Instruments Act may be construed in like manner in the hands of Congress, but they are asking that the law governing other the taxa- States. To safeguard against this, banks quite generally have adopted limited tion of bank stock be so safeguarded that they be accorded fair and equita- forms of certification under which the certified check is not payable if altered ble treatment, and not be subjected to the whims of the radical, or the ca- in any respect since issued by the maker. In adopting such limited form in prices of a State Legislature. any State consideration should be given to its possible effect upon the negoIf Section 5219 is continued substantially as it is in its presentform, with- tiability of the check. At the spring meeting of the Executive Council yourout the injection of any insidious amendment as proposed by the Kellogg bill, it will prove a safeguard to national and State banks alike, for every Committee recommended an amendment of the Negotiable Instruments Act which would relieve banks from the risk of loss in the certification of checks Legislature in revising its bank taxation laws must take cognizance of the in cases covered by the Illinois decision. This recommendation was approved Virginia Bank Tax Decision. Your committee, therefore, urges State banks and bankers to join with by the Executive Council. A tentative form of amendment of the Negotiable Instruments Act was at that time prepared by the General Counsel and agreed national bankers in lending their influence, to the end that no amendment to, but this was subject to revision and the General Counsel now has in mind shall be made to 5219 which will not be fair and equitable, thereby safe- a technical amendment in somewhat different form to better accomplish the guarding their own interests. object desired. The recommendation of an amendment to the Negotiable InRespectfully submitted, struments Act to safeguard banks from risk of loss in the certification of ERNEST PERRY, Chairman. checks placed upon them by the Illinois decision and to urge the enactment of such an amendment by State Legislatures through State organizations as Report of the Committee on State Legislation, will change the rule of that decision has been adopted, and the technical form by Craig B. Hazlewood. of such amendment is left in the hands of the General Counsel. To the General A. B. A. Convention, 1922. Protection of Innocent Purchasers. Your Committee has been active during the past year in conjunction with At the spring meeting of the Executive Council your Committee recomthe State Legislative Council, in urging through State banking associations in the various States wherein the Legislatures have held sessions, the enact- mended an amendment of the Negotiable Instruments Act to protect innocent purchasers of checks and other negotiable instruments which, under the statment of bills recommended by the American Bankers Association. The Legislatures of only 11 States have held regular sessions during 1922, utes of some of the States, as construed by their courts, are avoided where the consideration is based on a gambling or an usurious transaction. This recomalthough there have been special sessions in a few of the States. The A. B. A. measure punishing the issuing of checks without sufficient mendation was adopted by the Executive Council and such an amendment will funds has been passed in a modified form in the District of Columbia and a be urged upon State Legislatures through State bankers associations. The supplemented,statute, also in modified form, has been enacted in Mississippi. proposed amendment as drafted by General Counsel is as follows: The A. B. A. measure authorizing the payment of deposits in two names has Amend Section 55 of the Negotiable Instruments Act to read as follows: been passed in Arizona as a part of a complete banking code adopted by the (New matter in italic), Section 55. The title of a person who negotiates an instrument is defecLegislature at a special session, but limited to deposits by husband and wife. tive within the meaning Act when he obtained the In South Carolina the A. B. A. measure punishing derogatory statements any signature thereto, byof this duress, or force and fear or instrument, or fraud, other unlawful affecting banks, known as the Bank Slander Bill, has been passed, although means, or for an illegal consideration, or when he negotiates it in breach of faith or under such circumstances as amount to fraud. For the purpose or the phraseology of the law is different from the recommended bill. determining the rights of a holder in due course or of a person who derives his In Mississippi a law has been passed which authorizes banks to invest in title from a holder in due course of an instrument in form negotiable stock of Edge Law corporations, but it omits the detailed provisions con- any statute, is made void because based upon a gaming consideration which, by or usurious transaction or for other reason, not disclosed upon its face, such instrument tained in our Association's measure. The new Banking Code of Arizona includes a provision relative to member. shall be deemed obtained for an illegal consideration within the meaning of this Section and shall be enforceable by a holder in due course or a derivative from •• ship of State banks in the Federal Reserve System and also a provision author- such holder as provided in Sections 57 and 58. izing minors to maintain bank accounts the same as adults. Uniform Fiduciaries Act. Among the bills of importance which became law in Mississippi is one At the meeting of the Executive Council on May 19 1919 the following resowhich relieves a bank from the duty of inquiry as to the power of any corporate officer or other fiduciary because of the fact that he executes a check lution, presented by the Committee on State Legislation, was unanimously or other instrument in his representative capacity payable to himself. The adopted: "Resolved, That the General Council of the Association be instructed to subject of the necessary protection of banks in connection with the personal draft and the Committee on use of fiduciary checks is now completely covered in the new draft of Uniform In the various States where State Legislation to recommend for enactment needed an amendment of the Negotiable InFiduciaries Act, recently approved and recommended by the Commissioners struments Act or other form of statute which will make it reasonably safe, on Uniform State Laws. The matter of approving and recommending this for banks to receive on deposit or to pay checks drawn by officials of corporations or other fiduciar es to their personal order Act will be taken up later in this report. "Further, That the General Counsel endeavor to procure the recommendAnother law passed by the Legislature of Mississippi concerning which it is ation of such legislation by the Commissioners on Uniform State Laws." In August 1919 our General Counsel presented the above resolution to the worthy to take note is one which provides that a bank need not recognize an adverse claimant to a bank deposit unless it is restrained by court in an ac- Committee on Scope and Program of the Commissioners on Uniform State tion in which the depositor is party or unless such adverse claimant executes Laws at the time of their annual conference in Boston, which Commmittee a bond of indemnity to the bank, with a proviso that the bank must recognize referred the matter to the Committee on Commercial Law of the Commissionsuch a claimant where he shows by affidavit that the depositor is a fiduciary ers to consider (1) whether legislation was necessary, and (2) if so, to draft for him and includes facts showing reasonable cause for belief that the fidu- it and make report at the next annual conference. The subject was given extended consideration by that committee and in ciary is about to appropriate the deposit. It is not infrequent that banks are placed in a dilemma, when confronted with an adverse claim to a deposit, June 1920, upon invitation of the committee, a brief for the American Bankwhether to pay the depositor or recognize the adverse claim. The common ers Association in support of a proposition for a uniform statute to regulate the personal use of fiduciary checks was presented to the Committee and Comlaw does not sufficiently protect the bank. A complete summary of State legislation affecting banks passed during missioners on Uniform State Laws. This brief set forth at length the various conflicting decisions and called upon the Commissioners to remove the exist1922 has been printed and is available for reference. ing uncertainty in the law and recommend for State enactment a uniform Recommended Legislation. statute which would adequately regulate the subject in the interest of cerYour Committee has recommended for uniform enactment by the Legisla- tainty of the law and in justice to all concerned. Thereafter a draft of Unitures of the different States, to be urged through the State organization of form Fiducairies Act was prepared by Professor Scott of Harvard University and presented for the consideration of the Commissioners on Uniform State bankers, legislation as follows: Laws at their annual conference in 1921. This draft was recommitted to the Time Limit on Stop Payments. Committee on Commercial Law, and after a year's further consideration the draft was presented to the Commissioners at their annual conference in The Legislature of Oregon in 1921 passed an Act (Chap. 37, Laws of 1921) final this year and approved and recommended for State enactment. The fixing a 90-day time limit upon stop payment of checks unless renewed. The August of object of the Uniform Fiduciaries Act thus recommended is, as stated in the full text of the law is as follows: report of the Committee_ on Commercial Law,"to relieve persons dealing with An act, fixing limitations on revocations, countermands and payments and stop-payment orders relating to the payment of any check or draft against bank a fiduciary from the heavy responsibility of a constructive burden of inquiry into the good faith of the fiduciary. In practice such inquiries are impossible accounts. Be it enacted by the people of the State of Oregon: in the ordinary course of banking and commercial transactions; and there is Section 1. No revocation,countermand or stop-payment order relating to involved a risk which should be eliminated, except in cases of knowledge of y the pament of any check or draft against an account of a depositor in any remain in effect for more than ninety days after the service thereof fraud or personal advantage to the payee or recipient." bank Your Committee on State Legislation recommends the approval by the on the bank, unless the same be renewed, which renewals shall be in writing, and which renewals shall be in effect for not more than ninety days from American Bankers Association of the Uniform Fiduciaries Act as drafted and: date of service thereof on the bank, but such renewals may be made from recommended by the Commissioners on Uniform State Laws and that its entime to time. Section 2. All notices affecting checks upon which revocation, counter- actment be urged upon State Legislatures through the State bankers associamand or stop-payment order have been made at the time of the taking effect tions in the different States. of this act shall not be deemed to continue for a period of more than ninety Adverse Claim to Bank Deposit. days thereafter. Your Committee would also recommend, for uniform State enactment, theAt the spring meeting of the Executive Council, May 12 1922, your Committee recommended this law for uniform State enactment, and such recom- law passed by the Legislature of Mississippi at its recent session, relative b., mendation was approved by the Executive Council. adverse claims to bank deposit. This law provides: BANKING SECTION. 117 1 1922, the Revised StatNational Bank *Charters. By Act approved July n a national bank is utes were amended so that instead of a 20-year limitatio 1922, or from the July 1 given power "to have succession until 99 years from 1 1922, unless it shall be date of its organization if organized after July two-thirds of its stock, or sooner dissolved by act of its shareholders owning of violation of law, or unless its franchise shall become forfeited by reason hereafter enacted." The law unless it shall be terminated by Act of Congress extension acts are repealed. applies to all existing national banks and prior progress of this legislation, Our Committee was active in the promotion and for unlimited charters seeking, however, to have the law amended to provide the best that could of national banks. The 99-year limitation was, however, be procured. approved June 3 1922 the Membership of Federal Reserve Board. By Act is increased from 7 to 8, number of members of the Federal Reserve Board instead of five appointed the Board now consisting of two ex-officio and six ation of the fi, to be selected with due regard "to a fair represent geographical members interests and nancial, agricultural, industrial and commercial simply for a representadivisions of the country." The former law provided geographical divisions of the tion of the different commercial, industrial and was, therefore, specificcountry. Financial and agricultural representation that "at least two shall ally added, while the requirement of the former law is omitted. The new law conbe persons experienced in banking and finance" of authority to contract tains a provision depriving a Federal Reserve Bank without previous consent for the erection of a building in excess of $250,000 require. to the mem- of Congress by excluding buildings now under construction from the applicaSubsequent to the spring meeting, a questionnaire was issued during the progress of this legise Council in all the States designed to bring out the ac- tion of the law. Our Committee was active bers of the Executiv ons in the different lation, and especially in opposition to an amendment, which was at one time tual conditions with respect to building and loan associati commissions allowed proposed in the Senate, to require the President to appoint a farmer to the States. This questionnaire made specific inquiries as to charters were as diffi- first vacancy on the Federal Reserve Board. to promoters of building and loan associations; whether the President approved any, reserves were reEquality of Rediscount Privileges. On July 1 1922 cult to obtain as charters for savings banks; what, if required against a bill amending the provision of Paragraph 10 of Section 9 of the Federal Reagainst deposits, and a comparison with the reserves quired to become share- serve Act so as to provide that no Federal Reserve Bank shall be permitted to deposits in savings banks; whether depositors were required money on mortgage discount for any State bank or trust company paper of any one borrower who holders; whether such associations were permitted to loan office; whether the oper- is liable for borrowed money to such institution in an amount greater than upon lands more than 50 miles away from the home or by could be borrowed lawfully from such State bank or trust company were it a ons were governed by the State banking laws ations of such associati any, power of regulation national bank. This is designed to place State bank members on an equality special building and loan association laws; what, if as to the respective rates with national bank members with respect to rediscount privileges, which and control %yap vested in the Bank Superintendent; associations and by savings equality was not provided in all cases under the former law as interpreted. of interest paid to depositors by building and loan associations and stock savings Our Committee was active in promoting the passage of this law in the interbanks and the respective dividends paid by such associations are virtually est of our State bank members in the Federal Reserve System. banks; in what States deposits in building and loan July 1 1921 the Secredemand accounts; the exGovernment Aid to Agriculture. By act approved payable on demand; in what States they advertise such associations and by l Government deposits estate by tary of the Treasury was authorized to make additiona tent that deposits can be loaned on real and capital of the 12 banks any State are permitted to in Federal Land banks until such time as the paid-in savings banks; whether such associations in as to localities should be $50,000,000 or more, the amount of such deposits not to exceed the ; information do issue certificates of deposit for large amounts associations for the successful difference between the aggregate paid-in capital and the sum of $50,in which there are'too many building and loan on in any State is pending or contem- 000,000. operation of all; whether State legislati Land banks up to ons an unfair advantage By Act approved Aug. 13 1921 bond issue of the Federal plated that would give building and loan associati the present laws of the Act approved Aug. 24 2 / June 30 1923 may bear 51 instead of 5% interest. By savings banks; a request for opinions whether over and loan associations to 1921 the powers of the War Finance Corporation were extended to afford adState should be changed so as to restrict building ral products. Printed prevent abuses. ditional relief to producers and dealers in agricultu their proper functions, safeguard the people and from about two-thirds s of this law. By Act apA considerable number of replies have been received and showing varying Digest No. 1 is referred to for detailed provision ion to make adion proved June 10 1922 the powers of the 1Var Finance Corporat of the States which convey much valuable informat to and including May and suggestions received vances and purchases of paper were further extended up conditions. These replies with recommendations to this report. Jan.31 1926. By from different States have been digested and are appended building and loan 31 1923, and its power to issue notes or bonds was extended to 15 1922, Federal farm loans were authorized on farm lands In a considerable number of States it would seem that n Act approved May ent no further regulatio conditions are satisfactory to the banking interests and United States reclamation projects notwithstanding the Governm call for correction. under are otherwise is required. In some of the States there are abuses which has a lien for construction or other charges, provided such lands problem is one which calls for local eligible for loans and the amount and date of maturity of the Government's The conclusion seems to follow that the dation can be made for loan regulation in particular States and no general recommen be given due consideration in fixing the value,of such hinds d that the matter lien shall g which will apply to all the States. It is, therefore, suggeste Act approved Feb. 18 1922, farmers' co-operative marketin on, working in co- purposes. By be continued in charge of the Committee on State Legislati associations were authorized. y of the es as may be interested, with Secretar operation with such Divisions and committe Foreign Depositories. By Act approved June 19 1922, the as the local situamoneys in forpower to make such recommendation for particular States Treasury is given authority to designate depositories of public on, of the Government's business, transacti tion may call for. work- eign countries, necessary for the Committee the e The data received would suggest to the minds of our ns which he may prescribe and must give preferenc g lines, which, how- under terms and conditio the institution is ing out of reforms in particular States along the followin to American financial institutions wherever in his judgment to facilitate not as final, recommendations. ever, are only presented as tentative, and the service required. This Act is intended the particular needs' safe and able to render The following recommendations are suggested to fit the operation of Edge Law corporations. l hi having a number of the States affected: Revenue Act of 1921. Your Committee was successfu s. under 1. Forbid employment of'promoters and professional organizer s included in the Revenue Act of 1921. Working manner as now exists for of beneficial provision an important amend2. Restrict the granting of charters in the same its auspices, representatives of the Association secured 9 of stock, are perbanks. paid taxes upon their shares not savings, are accepted ment by which banks, which 3. Where demand deposits, whether styled demand or paid in computing Federal income where as is exacted of mitted to deduct the amount so n was never heretofore allowed general public, similar reserves should be required from the reimbursed by the shareholder. This deductio the saving of millions of dollars to banks. on by the Treasury Department, and it means 4. Draw a sharp distinction between a true building and loan associati of the country. ordinary savings bank. The latter is not en- the banks procured in the new Revenue and one using methods Of an The insertion of a number of provisions was accordingly. . Among these are (1) pertitled to tax exemption and should be forbidden to advertise Bill of special benefit to trust company members ty 5. Restrict loans on real estate to a radius of 50 miles. deduct from gross income gifts to communi over banks. Give mission to an individual to char6. Insure equally effective supervision as is now exercised e or individual trustees for the benefit of specified worthless discretionary powers to regulate and trusts and to corporat for deduction of the Department Officer in charge broad itable beneficiaries; (2) extension of provision debts; (3) limitations of time of control associations under penalty of revocation of charter. , high debts to include partial write-off of worthless 7. False and misleading advertisements in regard to demand accounts estates tax where amended return is liability of fiduciaries under income and rates of interest, etc., should be forbidden by law. called for after settlement of an estate. opposition to a proviOur Committee were active but unsuccessful in their which as finally adopted exempts from Report of the Committee on Federal Legislation, sion inserted in the new Revenue Bill and loan associations. Many of these taxation $300 of income from building is class legislation Mr. A. E. Adams, Chairman. institutions compete with savings banks and the exemption exGentlemen: The activities of a most vicious type and unsound in principle. A bill to remove this Mr.A.E. Adams: Mr.Chairman, Ladies and n (IL R. varied. emption has been drafted and introduced by Congressman McFadde of the Committee on Fedeal Legislation have beenlmany and Our CommitFederal Leg- 9950) and is now in the House Committee on Ways and Means. Pursuant to the By-Laws of the Association, the Committee on pending in the tee have made repeated attempts to procure a hearing on this bill, but so far islation has had in charge all subjects of Federal legislation Association, and without success. Since this law was passed, the Federal District Court in •67th Congress which have been favored or opposed by the Association and Ohio has decided it only applies to building and loan associations that are has kept close watch of all bills affecting or of interest to the of the Fed- mutual in character. The court said: "It may not be possible to define preits members. A close working touch has been kept with members of the cisely how far a building association may go in extraneous activities without by telegrams and letters and the activities eral Legislative Council subappearance before Congres- losing its essential character; but it seems clear that when it ceases to be Committee and Council have included personal arguments and plans to indi- stantially mutual and adopts as its chief business dealing for profit with the sional committees as well as the presentation of it is no longer a That portion of our member- general public by the methods of an ordinary savings bank, vidual members of Congress by mail and wire. been kept informed of building and loan association entitled to be exempted from income taxation ship especially interested in Federal legislation have indirectly affecting banks by under the statute in question." the progress of all Federal legislation direitly or the which digests (Numbers Time will not be taken to specify other subjects of laws passed during the publication from time to time of prinfed digests, digest of allselese 67th Congress which are of interest to banks, as a complete 1, 2 and 3) are attached to this report as exhibits. may be especially interested. subjects is available for any who Bills Passed. Bills Pending. law in which in detail all bills which have become The printed digests show The second session of the 67th Congress adjourned Sept. 22. A brief resume Only a few will be alluded bankers have a more or less direct interest. of some of the more important pending bills which affect the of the subjects to in this report. a deposit standing recognize said adverse claimant uoless said adverse to cause said bank to restraining order, injunction or other apclaimant shall also either procure afrom a court ofcompetent jurisdiction in a propriate process against said bank wherein the person to whose credit the deposit cause therein instituted by him , or shall execute to said stands is made a party and served with summons bond, indemnifying said to it a bank, in form and with surities scceptable loss, damage, costs, and expenses for and bank from any and all liability, adverse claim or the dishonor of the check on account of the payment ofsuch deposit stands on the books or other order of the person to whose credit the not apply in any instance Section shall of said bank; provided, that this the deposit stands is a fiduciary for such the person to whose credit where relationship, as also the adv.eTse claimant, and the facts constituting such of said claimant that the the facts showing reasonable cause of belief on saidpart deposit, are made to appear fiduciary is about to misappropriate said by the affidavit of such claimant." Building and Loan Associations. Executive Council Your Committee reported at the spring meeting of the was undertaking the that in conjunction with the State Legislative Council, it s of building investigation of the laws governing and regulating the activitie of ascertaining the and loan associations in the various States for the purpose as mutual institutions extent to which they depart from their true functions same methods as for home building and engage in business for profit by the e legislation may be ordinary savings banks, to the end that such correctiv as the situation may framed and recommended and such other measures taken doing business in this State of pw "Notice to any bankbooks to the credit ofany personan adverse claim to shall not be effectual on its 118 BANKERS' CONVENTION. banking interests is all that will be given in this report. For more complete Consolidation of National and State Banks. H. R. 10,878. Mr. McFadden. , Information, reference is made to the printed digests. of Pennsylvania, March 13 1922 (reintroduction of H. R. report with alteraBranches of National Banks. Nine bills have thus far been introduced in tions). This bill makes minor changes in the law relating to consolidation of the 67th Congress on this subject, but none have advanced out of committee. national banks with each other and also provides for consolidation of State Some of these bills authorize the establishing of branches with specified limi- institutions with national banks located in the same place in the same manner tations and seine prohibit branches. A group of four bills were introduced as is provided for the consolidation of national banks. The detailed proviearly in the session, namely in April and May 1921, by representativ es from sions of the bill will be found in Digest No. 1. It has not yet been reported. New Jersey, Pennsylvania and New York, all having for their object the auSavings Departments of National Banks. Identical bills were introduced in thorizing of branches of national banks; then, after an interval of a year and the House by Mr. Elston of California (II. R. 176, April 11 1921) and by a quarter, representatives from Missouri and Kansas in August and September Senator Calder of New York (S. 1836, May 17 1921) authorizing savings deof this year introduced bills prohibiting branches, while the representative partments of national banks with apportionment of capital and surplus and from Pennsylvania, Mr. McFadden, introduced a further authorizing bill. The segregation of assets. These bills have remained in the respective Commitfollowing is a brief synopsis of the bills introduced: tees on Banking and Currency and have not been reported. A similar bill in S. 93. Senator Frelinghuysen of New Jersey, April 12 1921, would author- the 66ht Congress was opposed by the American Bankers Association. ize branches of national banks in cities, dependent upon population, maximum Safe Deposit and Other Stock. Identical bills were introduced in the Sennumber 12, with increased capital for each branch. ate and house by Senator Wadsworth of New York (S. 2653, Nov. 1 1921) H. R. 6257. Mr. McFadden of Pennsylvania, May 16 1921, a similar bill and by Mr. McFadden of Pennsylvania (H. It. 9403, Dec. 9 1921) authorizing in substance to S. 93 except that number of branches net dependent upon pop- national banks to purchase stock of safe deposit companies doing business on ulation and branches not limited to cities. Requires approval of Comptroller the premises. A further provision of this bill requires a national bank which of Currency and Secretary of Treasury and vote of two-thirds of capital stock. acquires corporate stock in satisfaction of debt previous!) contracted to dis, It only applies to States which authorize branches of State banks. When a pose of it as soon as it can be sold at a price equal to the amount of the debt, State bank with branches converts into a national bank, it requires specified the stock in no event to be held longer than two years. Our Association is capital for each branch. in favor of these bills in the main, but concerning the stock provision it apS. 1835. Senator Calder of New York, May 17 1921, authorizes, subject to pears to be inadvisable to set a two-year limit at the end of which a national approval of Federal Reserve Board, branches of national banks in cities where bank must dispose of the acquired stock. This point has been called to the State institutions may lawfully have branches where capital of the parent attention of those in charge of the bills. They have not yet been reported. bank is at least equal to that required if branch was an independent bank. Qualifications of National Bank Directors. A bill introduced by Senator H. It. 6419. Mr. Fairchild of New York, May 21 1921, permits member Nelson of Minnesota, April 13 1921 (S. 658) amends Section 5146 Revised banks in cities where State institutions are authorized to have branches, to Statutes relative to the qualifications of the directors of national banks so as have not over 10 branches subject to rules of Federal Reserve Board. to require that four-fifths, instead of three-quarters, of the directors must H. It. 12,415. Mr. McFadden of Pennsylvania, Aug. 23 1921, empowers have resided in the State in which the association is located for one year conComptroller of Currency to authorize branches, offices or agencies where State tinuously immediately preceding their election and must be residents therein institutions are permitted so to do and not elsewhere. during their continuance in office. The bill strikes cut the provision which Further empowers Comptroller to authorize a national bank to do all things mould enable a director to hold office if he resides within 50 miles of the locaand acts permitted to be done by State banks and trust companies necessary tion of the bank, although his residence may be outside the State. The bill to meet competition, except such as are specifically prohibited by National also increases the requirement of stock ownership where the capital is over Bank Act; further permits national banks to continue existing branches, of- $50,000 by requiring the director to own 15 shares, where the capital is befices or agencies. tween $50,000 and $75,000, 20 shares, where between $75,000 and $100,000, S. 3941. Senator Capper of Kansas, Aug. 24 1922. and 10 additional shares for each additional $100,000 of stock. This bill is II. R. 12,414. Mr. Dyer of Missouri, Aug. 23 1922. objectionable to the banks. It has not been reported. S. 3981. Senator Reed of Missouri, Aug. 23 1922. These are identical State Taxation of Vatzonal Banks. The various bills relating to this subject bills prohibiting national banks from having branches where State banks have no are set forth in the printed digests. A special committee of the Association express power to establish branches. Existing branches of national banks in was appointed by President McAdams to oppose the efforts of tax commissionsuch States must be discontinued in 30 days under penalty of forfeiture of ers of certain States to procure an amendment of Section 5219 Revised Statcharter. utes so as to permit the States to tax national banks in any way they pleased H. It. 12.528. Mr. Millspaugh of Missouri, Aug. 31 1922, prohibits member provided only State banks were equally taxed. Our Committee on Federal banks of Federal Reserve System from establishing or operating branches, Legislation has co-operated with the Special Committee on Taxation of Nabranch offices or branch places of business. Permits continuance of branches tional Banks and will leave to that committee the making of a report on the established prior to July 1 1922. subject. Qualifying Oaths of National Bank Directors. Companion bills have Federal Reserve System. It will be impracticable within the limits of this been introduced in House and Senate (II. R. 12,236) by Mr. McFadden of report to recount all the various bills which have been introduced relating to Pennsylvania, June 30 1922 ; S. 3840, Mr. McLean of Connecticut. July 18 1922, the Federal Reserve System, the Federal Reserve banks or to member banks. which provide that the qualifying oath of a director of a national bank shall These bills include the subject of "division of earnings," "paper eligible for not be taken before a notary or other officer who is an officer of the bank. rediscount," "discount rates" and a variety of other topics, to which reference The McLean bill passed the Senate Aug. 4 1922 and was referred to the House will have to be made to the printed digests which are attached to this report. Committee on Banking and Currency Aug. 16 1922. Specific mention may be made of a bill introduced by Mr. Luce of MassachuReports of National Ban!s. A bill was introduced in the House on Nov. 3 setts (H. R. 6040, May 10 1921) to enable member banks, in figuring their 1921 by Mr. Lawrence of Missouri (II. It. 8996) which amends Section 5211 reserves to include amounts due from foreign banks in foreign currency, subRevised Statutes by providing that national banks shall make to the Comp- ject to regulation of the Federal Reserve Board. This bill, if enacted, would troller of the Currency not less than three, instead of five, reports during each remove a serious impediment to foreign trade and it has been urged by our year. This bill passed the House June 3 1922 and was reported to the Sen- Committee, but has not been reported. A bill has also been introduced by ate by it. Banking and Currency Committee Sept. 16 1922. Senator Harris of Georgia (S. 3531, May 1 1922) which would allow State Interest and Usury. A number of bills relating to interest charges and pen- banks having a capital in excess of $15,000 to become members of the Fedalty for usury by national banks have been introduced in the 67th Congress. eral Reserve System where the capital is at least 60% of the amount required A bill by Mr. Blanton of Texas (II. It. 225, April 11 1921) substitutes for the to become a national bank, with a specified annual increase until the capital penalty for usury now provided by Section 5198 United States Revised Stat- required under the present law is reached. This bill passed tire Senate or: utes (I. e. forfeiture of interest and the recovery of double the interest paid) July 8 1922. with an amendment giving the Federal Reserve Board the authe penalty which is prescribed by the laws of the State where the bank is lo- thority to fix the time within and the method by which the capital shall becated; or if the State has no usurious rate a bank loaning in excess of 7% shall increased with a proviso that the bank must set aside each year at least 20% forfeit all interest ; the guilty bank officer also to be imprisoned not exceed- of its net income for each preceding year. This bill is now in the House Coming one year. This bill also permits a minimum charge of $2 50 on small mittee on Banking and Currency. loans. This bill has been opposed by the American Bankers Association and Uniform National Bank Notes. A bill was introduced by Senator King of has not been reported. Further bills which would provide maximum rates of Utah in May 1921 (S. 1833) to provide for the redemption of the existing interest have been introduced by Senator Harrison of Mississippi (S. 553, circulating notes and for the issuance in their stead of circulating notes which April 12 1921) fixing 6% on loans and 7.3% on discounts and overdrafts; "shall not bear the name, charter number, or any other distinguishing mark and by Mr. afeSwain of South Carolina (H. R. 8841, Oct. 25 1921) fixing 5% indicating the bank to which they may be issued." This bill has the support as the maximum rate for Federal Reserve banks and 8% for member banks. of the Association, but it has not yet been reported by the Senate Committee A bill was also introduced early in the session by Senator Owen of Oklahoma on Banking and Currency. (S. 510, April 12 1921) which would amend the Federal Reserve Act by limBonus. At the Los Angeles Convention, the Association adopted the foliting the rate of interest chargeable by member banks on call loans to 6%. lowing resolution: Senator King of Utah, in a bill introduced Aug. 3 1921 (S. 2350) would pro"Economy in government demands the elimination of all unnecessary hibit Federal Reserve banks from rediscounting paper for any bank guilty of expenditure which would further increase our national debt or Usury under penalty of fine and imprisonment of the guilty officer. More re- of taxation. We are, therefore, opposed to the Soldiers' Bonus the burden bill, which would provide compensation without regard to disability. For cent bills on the same subject have been introduced by Senator Capper our soldof Kan- iers who are disabled as a result of the war, we urge the fullest compensation sas (S. 3512, April 25 1922) which would prohibit a national bank in any and care on the part of the Government." State where there is a Depositor's Guaranty Fund, from allowing The Fordney Bonus Bill (II. It. 10,874) was vetoed by the President interest on on deposits greater than that allowed to be paid by State banks; and a further Sept. 19 1922 and on Sept. 20 the veto was over-ridden by the house but susbill by Senator King of Utah (S. 4002, Sept. 16 1922) which would prohibit tained by the Senate. rediscount by. Federal Reserve banks of paper for member Tax Exemption of Securities. At the Los Angeles Convention .in banks unless ac1921 the companied by a certificate of a member bank showing both the rate of dis- following resolution was adopted: count and rate of commission does not exceed by more than 2% the discount "A question of great importance in the economic and financial life of rate of the Federal Reserve bank. None of these bills have our country has arisen through the continued creation of new tax exempbeen reported. Guaranty of Deposits. A bill was introduced early in the tions and tax exempt securities, session by Mr. and to lessen the initiative of which tend to remove capital from industry investors. No further tax esemptions should McClintic of Oklahoma (H. It. 2174, April 11 1921) which provides for the be authorized and no further tax exempt securities should be Issued by creation of a National Depositor's Guaranty Fund in each Federal Reserve the Federal Government or by the States, municipalities_ or quasi-public District to be used for the protection of non-interest-beari ng deposits in na- corporations." tional banks, and to be supervised by the Comptroller of A number of resolutions have been introduced in the House and Serrate prothe Currency, whenever the national banks in any district vote for the creation of such a fund. posing amendments to the Federal Constitution which, while differing in This bill has been opposed by the American Bankers Association and has never form, have each the object of precluding the further issuance of tax-exempt been reported. The same bill was reintroduced by Mr. Smith of Idaho on securities by public bodies. In a formal communication to the Chairman of Sept. 15 1922 (II. R. 12.659). the House Ways and Means Committee, the Association has placed itself on Embezzlement by National Bank Examiners. On Dec. 9 1921 Mr. McFad- record as approving the principle underlying these measures, as declared in the den introduced a bill (H. R. 9409) which would amend Section 5209 Revised resolution adopted at the Los Angeles Convention, without committing itself Statutes by punishing embezzlement, misapplication, etc., by national bank to any particular form. examiners and their assistants. This bill passed the House Fraudulent Securities, Our Association has co-operated with the Investon June 7 1922 and was referred to the Senate Committee on Banking and Currency ment Bankers Asscciation in supporting the bill introduced by Mr. Denison on June 8. to supplement existing Blue Sky laws and to provide for Federal co-ouaratis. BANKING SECTION. 119 that the-Inand with your permission. I will read them. I want to show stitute is serious minded. the power Whereas. In a democracy such as ours, where the people control be based of rule, where public opinion dctninates and where. If public opinion principles, disaster weir' falacious and unsound conceptions of economic democracy will flow only in so surely follows, and where the blessings of a and cultured far as Its government represents the rule of the intelligent prople, that there is a definite Be It Resolved. That we as citizens take the position of the immutaand vital need of appreciation on the part of our citizenship the adopble fact that economic laws will in the end have their effect, that development tion of punitive or arbitrary methods will in reality retard are opposed to class group and contribute to waste. That we as citizens an economic interest or sectional d mends. Fut hermore. that the world is and pledge unity, that we stand four square for economic statesmanship comprehenourselves individually to co-operate to bring about a broad country nor any other can sion on tte part of the people that neither this of its citizenbe safe in the hands of democracies unless the great majority proteems. ship is capable of giving intelligent consideration to economic of the The whole scheme of progress is based upon the development the task of living a life. Individual and the application of his powers to the broadBe It Resolved, 7'herefore, That as an organizatin we stand for thinking In the est possible study of economics In our classes, for straight the wealth public forum, for the full appreciation of Ruskin's view—"that but by the of a country Is not to be measured by the material possessiors powers and qualities of its inhabitants." Association, . President McAdams This child of the American Bankers If we born twenty-two years ago. Is Indeed a credit to the organization. Institute, the A. B. A. would had never done anything else but create the tine past year have been worth while. When we stop to realize that during has either gradupractically one out of every six members of the Institute what an effective ated or secured an elementary certificate, we may realize among the bank factor it is becoming in creating sound, economic thought employees of the country. Agenwith the States in suppressing the use of Federal Interstate Commerce The original Denicies in the promotion of the sale of fraudulent securities. The original Benison Bill (IL It. 7215) was not favored by our Committee. time was practicable restrictions upon legitimate business, and support for a 7868), which provides for the appointment given to the Volstead Bill (II. R. duty it would by each Federal Reserve Bank of a Securities Committee whose within the disbe to keep informed of the securities sold or offered for sale later a new trict and report fraudulent practice to the Attorney-General. But of reguDenison Bill was framed and is being supported as the best method to the lating the subject. This bill (II. R. 10,598) was favorab'y reported Foreign ComHouse on March 2 1922 by the Committee on Interstate and Commerce and passed the House on April 28. The bill is still in the Senate mittee on Interstate Commerce to which it was referred. Congressman McFadden of Pennsylvania introduced a furOn Sept. 14 1922 in the ther bill (II. R. 12.649) prohibiting the misuse of the word "Federal" advertising. as Federal Farm Loan bonds, of bonds not issued under the Farm in advertising or ofLoan System, and also prohibiting the use of that word fering for sale any securities not issued by the Government or under the provisions of some Act of Congress; further prohibiting the unauthorized use of the words "Federal" and "reserve" as part of the business name of persons engaged in the "banking, loan, building and loan, brokerage. factorage, insurance, indemnity or trust business." This bill has been referred to the House Banking and Currency Committee. Bank Slander. A bill has been introduced by Congressman McFadden (IT. R. 11,217, April 7 1922), based on our Association measure, to punish derogatory statements affecting banks, which was designed for State enactment. The bill provides punishment for any person who willfully and maliciously makes a false or untrue statement, oral or written, derogatory to the financial condition or standing of any national bank or other member of the Federal Reserve System, or which is subject to the supervision of the Comptroller of the Curreney. It has not, as yet, been reported from the Committee on Judiciary, to which it was referred. A similar bill has been introduced by -Mr. Gensman of Oklahoma (II. R. 11.296, April 13 1922). State Ban!s as Government Depositories. Our Committee has been urging a bill introduced by Mr. McFadden (II. R. 2815, April 21 1921 ; reintroduced as H. It. 12.240, June 30 1922) to amend Section 9 of the Federal Reserve Act so as to enable the Secretary of the Treasury to designate member State banks or trust companies as depositories of public money or as financial agents of the Government. This bill has not yet been reported. Postal Savings Rants. Your Committee opposed before the Committee on Post Offices and Post Roads the Steenerson Bill (II. R. 8334). This bill as reported to the house would amend the Postal Savings Law by increasing the maximum deposit to $5,000 and the rate of interest to be paid to depositors from 2 to 3%; also increase the rate of interest to be paid by banks on deposits of Postal Savings from not less than 2% to not less than 3%% per annum, and make other minor amendments to the law. While the bill has been favorably reported, the present indications are that it will not be passed by the House of Representatives. There is no corresponding bill in the Senate. At a meeting of the Committee on Federal Legislation. in conjunction with the Federal Legislative Council at White Sulphur Springs, May 8 1922, the following motion was unanimously carried: "Moved that it be the sense of the Federal Legislative Council that we oppose any increase in the powers of the Postal Savings System including the rate of interest which they wiz and disfavor any ,compromise with the proponents of the Steenerson Bill by which the existing powers of postal savings banks be in any respect enlarged, and we recommend to the Executive Council the adoption of a resolution to this effect. "We also recommend to the Executive Council the adoption of a resolution disapproving Governmental advertising ainted to expand the business of the postal banks and disapproving also the character of the advertising campaign now being conducted in Seattle and two other cities to sell the Government's 41 4% Savings Certificates." , There are numerous other subjects of pending legislation which have had the attention of our Committee, buf to mention all these wou'd be to unduly prolong this report. The printed digests which accompany it will give the subjects and status of' all such pending legislation. The Committee on Federal Legislation has endeavored during the past year to conscientiously perform its numerous duties in connection with the large number of bills which have been introduced in the 67th Congress and to adequately represent the interests of the banks as defined by the Association. Report of the American Institute of Banking, by President Robert B. Locke, Federal Reserve Bank, Detroit, Mich. Report of State Secretaries Section, by Andrew Smith, Secretary Indiana Bankers' Association, Indianapolis. Bankers Mr. Smith: Mr. President and Members of the American Secretaries Association: I am pleased to make the following report for the Section. Secretaries A very noteworthy achievement this past year for which the to the Section is largely responsible was the passage of an amendment of Revenue Law permitting banks to make deduction from net income effort taxes paid for shareholders. Our Section has made a very earnest simplified again this year to induce the Treasury Department to provide a sucIncome tax return for banks. Thus far, however, we have not been cessful, but hope in the near future to announce that a desirable simplified Treasury Income tax return for specific use of banks has been adopted by the Department. Association Very close co-operation has been given the American Bankers reEducational Committee by the Secretaries Section, and through our laid for spective associations very difinite constructive plans are being Sedretaries have the furtherance of this important movement. Our State given valuable assistance in regard to Federal legislation affecting banks, National particularly in helping defeat an amendment to Section 5219 of the Bank Act regarding taxation. rates Our Committee on Insurance is striving to hold bank insurance down to a just and fair basis. We have requested the A. B. A. Insurance Executive Committee to report the findings of their investigation to the .to isa Council regarding the question of rates. This information in turn be given to the State Secretaries. The State Associations are co-operating with the Protective Department happy when of the American Bankers Association enthusiastically and are they can serve the A. B. A. in any way. to testify President McAdams: Permit me to take this opportunity been rendered to the wonderful effectiveness of the co-operation which has Associations the American Bankers Association by the various State we may fairly through their Presidents and Secretaries. I believe that close co-operasay that during the past year we have seen more evidences of has over been tion and more practical results from this Association than true in the past. not solely in our The growth of the power of American banking lies working relationAssociation, but also in developing the closest possible ship with our State organization. The report will be received and recorded. Mr. Robert B. Lock-: Mr. President and Gentlemen of the Convention: The Institute welcomes an opportunity once a year to have five minutes in which to tell you all about it. This year we will divide this report into of the Clearing Houses, by James Ringold about three one minute sections, one concerning figures, one an appeal Report Vice-President United States National Bank, and third a declaration of principle. A year ago we reported to you a membership of 44,903. This year we Denver, Colo. report to you a membership of 50.692, an addition of 5,789 members. sixteenth year of service The Clearing House Section has just chased the We also report to you that there are at the present time approximately successful in its history. Fstlowing 22,000 bank men in this country pursuing our educational work. We also to its members, which has been the most Section has, since its inception, report that during the year we have added 22 new city chapters, making a the principle laid down by the officers, the of tint country by promoting the total of III chapters now in operation. We also report that during the endeavored to be of service to the banks with unusual success. year we have issued 636 standard graduation certificates, making the total clearing house Idea; in this it has met and seventy-four At the Los Angeles Convention last year, two hundred number of instituted graduai es at the present time 4.391. that associations held membership in the Section. Since We have also is.sued Ulla year to the younger man 2,657 elementary bank- clearing house have been organized—thirty-three active ing certificates, making total outstanding elementary banking certificates time thirty-six new associations hundred and tee and three inactive, increasing our membership to three 4.867. history of the Section. The appeal: From my observation it is my firm conviction that the the largest in the special efforts have In addition to furthering the clearing house idea, greatest problem the Institute has at the present time is that of insuring house to interest as many cities as possible in the clearing men of suffielent ability to administer its affairs. It is no boy's job to run been made so successfully in many of our which has been operating cities spread all over examiner system, an organization of 50,000 members divided into 111 Angeles last cities. Prssident Crane in his annual report at Los this country There Is too much tendency in some quarters for bank( Ulcers, latseer examination in stated that twenty-three cities had such a system of especially senior officers, to discourage their better men from taking an year, number to thirty-one, operation. During the year we have increased that active part in the institute. make special gain of eight. In this connection, I feel that I should We want your best men. It Is only natural that the institute in casting a which after mention of the Portland, Oregon, Clearing-House Association, about for men to hold its offices, both national and local, that they should This I believe a lapse of five years. has reinstalled the examiner system. want ycur best men and none other, and it is also natural that your best cities that are without it anti who are the best recommendation to those men are the men you can least spare, but the Institute is something more contemplating installing it during the coming year. than the individual. We don't care how much sacrifice it takes upon your been advocating As a step towards the examiner system, we also have Credits Idea.aeIt part to give those men to us, we must have them because the Institute to the associations throughout the country the Bureau of Is doing more for you than it is for any individual. and has has taken hold in many cities and operating most successfully Now the deciara ion of principle: That is best given In the closing proved a most valuable aid to the members. words of our resolution as adopted at Portland. Oregon,In July of this year, 120 BANKERS' CONVENTION. Our Numerical Committee, which has rendered such valuable service in the past in promulgating the use of the Numerical System, is now working out a plan which will provide for a uniform method of designating branch banks by a numerical number in cities where banking institutions have one or more branches. At the present time we are co-operating with the Federal Reserve Board to the end that a uniform amount for the no-protest symbol may be adopted and we are hoping that they may be in favor of the $20 minimum which was adopted and advocated by the Section in 1916. At this time I feel that I should make special mention regarding the conferences which will be held by the clearing house managers and examiners on Tuesday and Wednesday afternoons of this week. These meetings will be in the nature of a round-table discussion, where ways and means will be discussed to the end that the experiences which have proved so successful in many of our larger cities having well-organized associations, can be brought to the attention of all the clearing houses throughout the country. I wonder if you all realize what the year's accomplishments of the Section mean to better banking. We,the officers, feel gratified over the number of new clearing houses organized as well as the number of cities adopting the examiner system and are looking forward to the coming year, believing the Section will be able to render as great if not greater service to its members. I trust you will read the reports of the Chairman of the Executive Committee, the Acceptance Committee and the report of the Secretary, which will appear in the annual proceedings. Report of the Trust Company Division, by J. A. House, President of the Guardian Savings & Trust Co., Cleveland. of States which require no segregation by law and thousands of banks therein would be unable to furnish the desired information. The amount of savings deposits officially reported for all States, with the exception of Kansas and Nebraska which are estimated, is summarized by geographical districts as foil,ws: Total Sayings Deposits June 30 1921. Certificates of Savings Deposit State— Deposits. 30 Days and Over. New England $15,549,000 $2,731,586,000 Middle Atlantic 5,747,122,000 263,691,000 Southern 890,324,000 411,246,000 East Central 3,087,719,000 1,219,806,000 West Central 206.107,000 532,058,000 Pacific 1,353,029,000 96,046,000 Total State— New England Middle Atlantic Southern East Central West Central Pacific $14.015,887,000 Postal Savings. $2,808,000 43,830,000 1,702,000 9,567,000 1,553,000 4,852,000 $2,538,396,000 Per Capita Savings Dept. Total. 1920 Census. $2,749,943,000 $371 6,054,643,000 247 1,303,272,000 45 4,317,092,000 145 739,718,000 89 1,453.927,000 212 Total $64,312,000 $16,618,595,000 $157 The number of savings accounts (which approximates the number of Mr. J. A. House: Mr. President and Members of the American Bankers savings depositors) is more difficult to determine but without reports from Association: My report will be brief. It has been prepared and written many States in some of which the savings business is highly developed by and handed to the Secretary. The work of our Division this last year has competition, we are able to give the following aggregates: followed along pretty much the same lines as those in previous years. We Mutual savings banks (18 States) 9,654,989 have extended the scope of our work and the service to our members very Other "States" banks (13 States) 6,180,337 materially, however. Legislation both national and State continues to Trust companies (8 States) 2,713,808 occupy the attention of our committees. We have a committee known as Private banks (New York only) 72,961 the Committee on Standard Federal Legislation. We also have a committee "National" banks (all States) 8.015.736 known as the Committee on Co-operation with the Bar, and this subject is Total accounts reported 26,637,831 becoming increasingly more important as trust companies realize that they In addition to the above compilation, the Division had planned to make must have the friendly co-operation of the lawyers in their business, and we a monthly report on tendencies of savings deposits, but this plan was believe in co-operation rather than in fighting them. abandoned when the Division of Analysis and Research of the Federal This is increasingly important because of the fact that so many State and Reserve Board undertook a similar task. Advance publication of the national banks are now taking on trust power, so that it bebooves all of Federal Board's figures appear in our department of the "Journal of the those who do a trust business, whether they are trust companies, State American Bankers Association" from month to month. This monthly banks, or national banks, that they cultivate the friendly co-operation of table represents savings deposits of over five billion dollars. over one-third the members of the bar. of the aggregate of all savings deposits in the country. as reported by One of the activities to which I want to call your attention, that the trust representative savings institutions. companies have been engaged in the last two years,is through the Committee 2. Mortgage Loans from Savings Deposits. on Publicity. We have been conducting a national advertising campaign. We urge as a fixed policy that mortgage loans for housing shall have The members of our division have paid in in the last two years something over 3115,000, which has been expended in national advertising, using the priority in the loans of savings deposits, and that amortization be religiously national magazines. We have received very satisfactory results from that enforced. The banks and their officers are by far the largest investors in mortgage activity. There has come in to the New York officer over then thousand inquiries from that publicity alone, and that does not take into account at securities, a fact which is frequently overlooked. The Comptroller of the all the inquiries that have come in to the local companies throughout the Currency reports aggregate bank holdings on June 30 1921 as over $4,750,000,000, of which over $4,000,000,000 was secured by other than country. The resources of the Trust Company Division are something over twelve farm land. The Mutual Savings Banks held a total of $2,460,000,000 of this total, of which $20,000,000 was secured by farm land. But this billion dollars. We haven't the latest figures for this last year—we expect them later in the day. There are twenty-six hundred and forty-three active total of over $2,000,000,000 of mortgage loans held by other than Mutual and associate members in our Division. When we say our resources are Savings Banks can, and we believe should, be increased substantially in twelve billion dollars, we don't take into account the resources of our times of scarcity for housing funds according to local needs. The adoption Trust Departments. They would be many, many times this figure without of such a policy would not only assure a service to savings depositors which they can properly demand, and therefore result in a larger increase of such question if those figures were available. The work of our Division is going along very quietly, smoothly and very deposits, but it will also minimize the arguments of ardent uplifters to nationalize and even to use the nation's credit on a matter which is essentially efficiently. local because of the relation between the economic progress and the housing needs of all established communities. Report of the Savings Bank Division, by Raymond R. The actual activities of the banks in mortgage finance in a large proporFrazier, President Washington Mutual Savings tion of the country is far in excess of the amounts reported on hand on particular dates of call. There are States in which the only responsible Bank, Seattle, Wash. forces in the mortgage business are the banks and trust companies. Mr. Frazier: Mr. President, the Savings Banks Division realizes that Some banks have voluntarily adopted a policy of investing either 50% its chief duty is its great privilege, namely that of devising and promulgating of time deposits or of holding about 10% of all loans and discounts in approved methods of popularizing the savings habit among all classes and mortgage securities. The Division has prepared a more detailed statement all agents. We set out this year to find a basis for a little more joy in on this subject. (See report of our Division's committee on Mortgage thrift work. For many years tong-faced teachers and preachers have been Loans at this convention.) telling us that only 100 out of every 1,000 of Americans have savings ac3. School Savings Banking Projects. counts. We know that this was wrong, and because we believed in the 1.304.941 school children participated in school savings banking projects efficacy and in the value by way of inspiration of reliable statistics, we set out to find out what the facts welv, and we are reporting for the first time during the last school year. as compared with 666,478 during the previous that instead of there only being about 100 out of every 1.000 of our people year and 462.651 during the year before, which was the first year of this with savings accounts, as a matter of fact when you consider the national Division's specialized activity. The majority of these pupil participants and State banks and trust companies, we have 250 out of every 1,000 had their own bank accounts creating a businesslike relationship with Americans with savings accounts, and it is said that the savings deposits the bank. Total pupil deposits for the three years respectively were $5,720,471 aggregate only about $7,000,000,000, but they actually aggregate some18, thing like $14,000,000,000, which is 40% of all the deposits in all the 30,000 53,475,867 96 and $2,800,301 18. The goal of a standardized system which can be recommended banks of America. by the Division has not yet been attained, although our studies have Following is the report of the Savings Banks Division: made very The Savings Banks Division reports another year of increase in both substantial progress. Our list of operating systems is now 394. as comthe number of inquiries received from all types of banks as well as in the pared with 156 the previous year, the increase being very largely accounted scope or variety of subjects which demand attention, as will be shown by for by new installtvions. These figures speak for themselves. The Division's office is prepared to advise with any member the following summary: bank which contemplates the installation of a school system, as we urge caution 1. Extent of the Sarings Bank Business. and full investigation before it accepts any plan which may be presented, About half of the country's total bank deposits are now known to be Industrial Savings Banking. savings deposits and the number of depositors exceeds 26,000,000 according Joint promotion by employers and banks in promoting systematic to this Division's recent tabulation. No branch of the banking business has been supplied with less adequate savings by employees is being encouraged with the resumption of business figures than that for savings banking, yet such statistics have been needed activity and the Division will be prepared to assist in the installation for use not only in considering general economic problems but as a guide and operation of a standardized plan. Based upon wide investigation and experience, the Division's committee for planning of business extension projects. The following summaries are taken from the detailed tables which the on savings has made a selection from among the various plans which have developed locally in many cities and institutions. While we can Division can supply to member banks in detailed form. Our definitions harmonize with those which appear in the regulations of announce a decision in favor of the principle of pay-roll deduction, the exact details to be incorporated in the material and the method by which the Federal Reserve Board. The statistics are based upon those appearing in Federal and State reports for June 30 1921, followed by correspondence the plan will be made available to members has yet to be determined. with both public officials and bankers to exhaust all sources of information Federal Legislation. short of direct inquiry to each bank. It is doubtful if such direct inquiry The Division continues to urge that the welfare of the thirfty and saving would add substantially to our information because of the large number shall not be jeopardized by legislation to satisfy selfish claims of noisy BANKING SECTION. minorities. We therefore urge adoption of the constitutional amendment to abolish tax exemption of securities and we advocate strict adherence to the principle of equitable taxation by Congress and the Treasury Department in advante of its formal incorporation in the constitution. It is unnecessary to again outline the evils of special privilege through tax exerpption, although both the enormous expansion in municipal indebtedness and the added burdens upon private finance have supplied a great volume of new evidence as to the need for serious and prompt attention. We were amazed with the announcement that Congress consented to allow certain exemptions from the personal income tax as a subsidy to those who invest in shares of and deposition building and loan associations, not with a view to the advantages accruing by reason of association activity among those to whom its facilities ordinarily appeal but to attract taxable depositors from savings banks. This exemption was allowed without specification as to the kind of plan or regulation under which the association operated and apparently will be of most value in those States which authorize their associations to invest in real estate mortgage loans without establishing adequate reserves for withdrawable funds. The activities and scope of the United States Postal Saving System have been the subject of much study and discussion, but legislation to place the Government more actively or directly in the savings bank business is not now anticipated. State Legislatton. We urge that all States give legislative recognition of the judicially recognized trusteeship for savings depositors which rests upon savings bankers. We oppose resort to paternalism in lieu of the development of individual ability. We are to-day confronted with another wave of lottery schemes which succeed only so far as the economic basis for banking Is disparaged. We will mention but two items: First, savings deposits in banks are a distinct class which should not be handled as are demand deposits. In the first place, savings depositors should as a matter of policy be protected against every probable investment hazard, as their primary demand is for safety of principal. Such depositors have the influence and votes which will secure that safety and such demagogues as have arisen in various parts of the country would obtain a verdict for nationalization even though they thereby abandon community control and personal service. The immutable laws of economics make it impossible to develop personal ability and the advancement of the public interest wihout some sacrifice. We therefore, while perceiving an increasing public demand for savings fund legislation, recommend strict adherence to those principles of savings banking which have been developing through a century of international experience, disapproving of any resort to actual or pretended guaranty of bank deposits by or through Governmental agency. Second, we are confronted with one of the periodical plagues of alleged co-operative credit institutions which to-day are generally known as "Three Percent Loan Contract" concerns. There are so many elements of chance and even of fraud in the operation of such concerns that we demand absolute prohibition of their operation. Not only is the interest cost to borrowers much more than the quoted rate in the average case, but even the allotment of loans is by lottery methods. These two points have been established repeatedly before court and administrative tribunals and warrant prohibition without reference to many other objections which we deem to be equally important. Both the "National Associations of Local Building and Loan Associations" and the "National Association of Supervisors of State Banks" adopted resolutions of condemnation at recent conventions and we recommend that the American Bankers Association take action on a resolution similar to that adopted by the Supervisors of State Banks, which reads as follows: "Be It Resolved that it is the sense of the members of this Association that the public should be and hereby is warned against the purchase of that class of contract commonly referred to as 3% loan contracts. We believe that this form of contract is productive of unjust inequalities among contract purchasers, and in many cases of absolute fraud." With the approval of the Executive Committee of the Savings Bank Division. 6 I undoubtedly fully appreciated. It is, therefore, but natural in view of such responsibilities that this Association should augment its conception of service, discarding the comparatively inconsequential policies of am interior organizational nature. and fastening their aims to the more vital purposes of banking and commun. ity benefits—a course leading, through mighty initiative and corresponding accomplishment, to unlimited influence. To this end the National Bank Division pledges its undivided ,ime and whole-hearted support. Report of the State Bank Division, by H. A. McCauley, President Sapulpa State Bank, Sapulpa, Okla. . Mr. H. A. McCauley: Mr. Chairman and Members of the Association Mr. Hecht could not be here at this hour and he asked me to appear and present merely the salient features of the report as rendered to the Executive Council which are as follows: For the past year the State Bank Division has directed its activities more particularly in legislation to the securing of uniform legislation for the banks throughout the many States, 48 States in which we have to operate. That applies merely to the State legislation for State banks. For national legislation our efforts have been directed toward securing that which would give to State banks as well as all banks a longer time commercial credit and for the use of more particularly and more extensively land credits. In addition to this the question a co-operative marketing has had our attention and we have but bagun to work on that and that will take up our time more specially for the new year. Our membership is practically intact, about 12,000 members, and our assests may have depreciated some during the year just past due to consolidations and to the general depression. I believe this in substance is Mr. Hecht's report, and what I desire to submit to you at this time. At our meeting yesterday afternoon the report of the Committee on Exchange was made and that will be found in phamplet form and peraaps be given later by Mr.Claiborne. In addition to that our Section went on record as opposed to branch banking. This, I believe, Mr. Chairman, represents the main features of Mr. Hecht's report. Report of the National Bank Division by Col. John G. Lonsdale of St. Louis. Col. John 0. Lonsdale: Mr. President and Members of the American Bankers Association: There are 8,197 national banks in this country with combined resources totaling more than $20,700,000,000. This total is constantly on the increase even amid varying economic conditions. indicating the steady and healthy growth of the members constituting the National Bank Division of this Association. There are 1.595 national banks with trust departments, and 5,785 national banks with savings departments, representing 8.875,088 depositors and total savings of $3,046,647,000. Attention to the interests of member banks, including specialized service pertaining ts these new departments, and the increasing popularity of the Washington office as the bankers' point of contact at the national capitol, are responsible for an ever-expanding program in the Division. The extension of national bank charters over a period of 99 years instead of 20 years has been one of the prominent features of an exceedingly active twelve-month in legislative affairs. In keeping with the principles of this big association, the national banker as an individual has tried to lend himself to the solution of problems affecting the community and the nation. In tribute to the banking fraternity as a whole,let it be said that this participation has been with credit. As far as Divisional policies are concerned, considerable attention has been given to seeuting equal privileges for national banks. We are fully appreciative of the wide importance of this subject. The National Bank Division believes that an epochal point was reached when the administration of the American Bankers As.sociation, acceding to the demands of members and the press, placed for consideration the year's most pertinent It is banking question before this, the bantdng parliament of the nation. no jeopardy to a cause to have it frankly discussed among fair-minded rather men. To meet fairly and squarely the real issues in banking life, than editing them out of our sessions, is a praise-worthy departure. Division creates no In striving for business justice, the National Bank impartiality. precedent. It is the cu.stom of freedom-loving people to seek bankNo matter how divergent the immediate interests of various classes of ing might appear, the nation's financial practices, in soundness, are one. representing the combined and this association should always he supreme as A. B. A. progress of American banks. It is at once apparent that the must proudly husband such a privilege and warrant this affluence of author- 121 ity in the future as in the past by courageously and fearlessly meeting the paramount banking issues. We are just finishing one of the most eventful and interesting years in banking history; a period during which the banker, per haps of necessity, has gotten closer to the actual trend of affairs than ever before. The fact that to-day we stand upon the treshhold of what is generally conceded to be the beginning of an era of sane business expansion is due to the fortitude and sagacity with which the banker assisted in the salvaging of the American business. In these adjustments, the public gained a more enlightened viewpoint of the necessity of banking and the importance of tee banker in the economic scheme of things. The public, in consequence, has learned to expect wholesome leadership from this seasoned source and it becomes a solemn duty to respond. On the other hand, the banker has become a man of many parts. He is better equipped than ever, because experience with his varied foster children acquired of the depression have enlarged his capacity and extended his horizon of interests. Banking has become a dominant wsrld factor in the process of restoration. It takes a truly great and active organization to represent such interests. No course of vacillation, postern policies or recumbency will suffice in such a contingency. The prudent inclination to meet this ever-increasing opportunity for service on the part of the Associ4,tion is Report of Committee on Public Education, by J. H. Puelicher, President Marshall & Ilsley Bank, Milwaukee, Wis. The life and prosperity of a State depend upon the equitable distribution assured of its opportunities among its people. So long as fair rewards are condition to him who labors, so long will there be progress. for under such most men find life's happiness in life's work. middle This will insure the growth of that sound, sane, conservative, and poverty. group, the intermediary body between the extremes of wealth the safety These two extremes, existing alone, are too far apart to insure of either, and the consequent safety of the State. strongly supTherefore, the large middle group must continue to be support of safety ported and constantly expanded, or a nation loses its and its power as a democracy. material growth of Upon the mental, spiritual, as well as upon the material strength this group, depends largely the mental, spiritual and of the nation. There is no substitute for inThere is no substitute for character. a substitute for tegrity. There is no substitute for work. Nor is there is no substitute thrift. There is no substitute for knowledge. There citizenship, each for religion. These a nation cannot legislate into its Individual must gain them for himself. freedom America's opportunities are bringing greater rewards and more use of these to her workers. Unless there is knowledge for the proper —dissatisfaction growing, rewards, there will be continued dis.satisfacticn meaning not out of the lack of the means of living, but out of the lack of the of life. and The greater the percentage of owners in any land the more permanent contented its citizenship. "He who forgets this elemental fact, builds farm. his theories upon the sand." The moderate home, the successful of and all they mean to the happiness of family life and to the integrity ownership national life, must continue common possessions. Pride of in public affairs. fosters conservatism in public ideas, urges participation He In this industrial age, man early reaches his economic majority. must in youth have the knowledge of those laws which help him to live. school room— Therefore, our program has been directed first to the the students of the 7th and 8th grades of the grammar schools, the High bringing schools and the colleges. This does not preclude the banker from his message whekever possible to the grown-ups. Those communities The results of last year's work are self-evident. It is with are most enthusiastic which were most zealous in its support. year. The fullest assurance of the need, that we proceed into a new attempted to embody many things learned in our year's experience, we have in our material and plans for this year. is not Some of us knew, and some of us have learned, that the banker is a leader. a teacher. He is not versed in pedagogical principles. But he 122 BANKERS' CONVENTION. He knows how theory can be applied. The greatest achievements in this work have come, and will come, through the serious and earnest co-operation of the teacher and the banker. 0 Many bankers, with a fund of knowledge, willing to give of their time and service, felt they could not attractively tell the story to the young student. You will now find nine talks prepared for these bankers, and for the bankers who prefer, outlines upon which to build their own talks, pertinent to conditions In their communities. 11$ Then. so that the teacher may not be uninformed as to the plan and the work, an outline upon the entire course, together with an explanation of the plan and a list of reference books, has been printed in pamphlet form, which any teacher, in whose classes the talks are given, may have upon request. Many educators welcome the banker's help in augmenting their work because tbey realize that upon the knowledge of fundamental business economics, rests much of the happiness, the prosperity, the stability of this democracy. Whatever the ills of America, education is the means of accelerating evolution, of abolishing revolution. Annual Report of the Insurance Committee, by Oscar G. Foreman, Chairman. Premiums and Losses on Bankers' Blanket and Fidelity Bond Business and Question on Reducing the Rates on Blanket Bold. The Committee has taken this matter up with Mr. R. R. Gilkey, Secretary of the Surety Association of America, and he advises that he will take the matter up of reducing the rates on the Bankers' Blanket Bond with the Towner Rating Bureau, and the question of furnishing the Committee with the statistical experience on premiums and losses in the Bankers' Blanket and Fidelity bonds will be submitted by him to the Surety Association at their next meeting for their consideration and action. Premiums and Losses on Bank Burglary and Robbery Business.. The Committee has been endeavoring to get the premiums and losses of the Burglary Insurance Underwriters' Association up to date, but we are advised by Mr. H. W. Cluff. Secretary of the Association, owing to the delay of some of the companies in submitting their figures it will be impassible to furnish the information in time to be embcdied in this report, but they will be glad to furnish the information as soon as available. It will be noted in last year's report they furnished the information up to that date. Burglar Alarm Systems. The Committee has been endeavoring to get the report of the Bureau of Laboratories at Chicago, who have been making an exhaustive investigation and tests of the various alarm systems with a view of determining their value and arranging a rate of discount. We are advised by Mr. H. W. Cluff, Secretary of the Burglary Insurance Underwriters' Association, to the effect that the Bureau of Laboratories have not completed their tests as yet, but as soon as they do and the rate of discount is arranged, he will notify the Committee as to all the alarm systems that have the approval of the Bureau of Laboratories and also the rate of discount. We have received some very complimentary letters from the banks that we have aided and also from a number of the State Secretaries where we have been called on and assisted them in insurance matters. From the letters received from the banks they realize that the Committee has been of great service to them during the past 12 months in advising them on insurance coverage and adjustnig cases where necessary with the insurance companies, and every case, with one exception, that was taken up with the Insurance Committee where there was a question between the bank and the company, has been settled by the companies on the recommendations made by the Committee, which has been entirely • satisfactory to the banks. • Relative to the particular case still pending, our Secretary has held several conferences with the company and presented the bank's side of the case anti the matter has been taken under consideration by the attorney for the company, but at the time of writing this report he has not made final decision. We take pleasure in advising that our Secretary has received the hearty co-operation of the insuranse com'panies in bringing about adjustments in various cases, and they have without any hesitancy submitted their entire file for inspection, and, in a number of instances, have consulted with our Secretary relative to adjustment before any question arose between the company and the bank as to settlement. Reciprocal or Inter-Insurance. As a result of a flood of telegrams from business interdsts in all parts of the country regarding a rumor that the Insurance Committee contemplated going on record as being opposed to reciprocal or inter-insurance. apd were to submit a report to the Executive Council, the Insurance Committee of the Association issued a statement to the press denying that the question of reciprocal or inter-insurance would be considered in any way by the Committee. The Committee does not know the source of these rumors, but it can be said unequivocally that the Committee does not consider it within . the province of the American Bankers Association to take any stand on the question of reciprocal or inter-insurance. The Insurance Committee has not received any report or prepared any report on the subject, nor have they contemplated taking any action upon it. h. Respectfully submitted, INSURANCE COMMITTEE Oscar G. Foreman, Chairman F. F. Johnson Andrew Smith Giles IL Miller C. W. Carey L. W. Ganunon. Secretary. During the period covered by this report. 12 months, Sept. 1 1921 to Aug. 31 1922, the Insurance Committee has veen very active, owing to the number of burglaries, hold-ups and defalcations. The banks generally also have increased their Insurance coverage and have submitted their various burglary, fidelity and blanket bonds to the Insurance Committee . for inspection, opinions and coverage. Every member that has been burglarized or held up has been written to regarding its loss, with the suggestions that the policy covering same be sent by registered mail to the Secretary cf the Committee for inspection so that the Committee can advise the membdr of the liability of the insurance company. In several of the replies from the banks they have advised that they carried burglary and hold-up insurance, and in a number of instances they stated that their policy did not cover the loss. Our Secretary pointed out to them in a number of cases where the policy did cover the loss, with the result that the banks made claim against the insurance companies and the insurance companies paid the claim. The Committee has likewise written to all non-member banks, pointing out to them the advantages they will enjoy by becoming members of the American Bankers Association, and advising them of the services that your Committee may perform for them in the adjustment of claims and advice as to policies. Through the efforts of the Committee, a number of these banks have joined the Association. In the year 1915 the surety companies got out a bankers blanket bond, which covered fidelity as well as burglary and held-ups. The same was submitted to the Insurance Committee and, after some changes suggested by the Committee, the form was approved. Owing to the changes brought about by the increase in crimes and questions arising from time to time as so the coverage. the Surety Association submitted to the Insurance Committee for approval certain endorsements to be used in connecticn with the form that would clarify the bond and remove certain ambiguities and state more specifically what was covered by the bond. These endorsements were examined very carefully by our Secretary and the General Counsel and submitted to the Insurance Committee for their action, and the Committee approved of the endorsements. These endorsements do not take away any of the coverage that was originally'given under the approved form. The Surety Association also submitted what is known,as their Form No. 2 for approval, which is not as broad as Form No. 1, but the rate is very much !ems. The Committee approved of the form but with the understanding that if their approval was to be placed on the bond, the same was to state that it was as to form only, but they recommended Form No. 1 in preference to Form No. 2. Mr. W. E. Meier), of J. F. Hayden & Company, Montreal, Canada. submitted, also for the action of the Insurance Committee, certain amendments to the "Han-C"form of Lloyds Blanket Bond. These changes first were carefuiy considered by both our Secretary and the Generai Counsel and then transmitted to the Insurance Committee, by whom they were approved, as it was found that they not only broaden the form but clarify certain ambiguities. The United States Guarantee Company of New York submitted a blanket Report of Agricultural Commission bond which they are now writing. This form is identical with Lloyd's "HAN-C." It also submitted the financial statement of the Company, By Joseph Hirsch, President Corpus Christi National Bank, Corpus Christi, Tex. together with the names of its officers and directors. These were examined by both our Secretary and the General Counsel and then transmitted to and When American agriculture this year began to show signs of recovery approved by your Committee. This particular form is much broader in its from the depression, there was a noteworthy quickening of co.operative coverage than the Bankers' Blanket Bond issued by the American com- work ny bankers' associations and individual banks. Previously it had panies. In particular it covers the payment, whether received over the been a matter of course that various ambitious plans for banker-farmer counter or through clearing house or by mail, of forged or raised checks or activities should be deferred in execution while associations and individual (genuine) checks bearing forged endorsements, or the establishment of any banks struggled with the pressing problem of how best to assist the American credit to any customer on the faith of such checks. farmer in the great emergency. The Company will underwrite only 20% of each risk and the balance The policy of the Commission, which realized the futility of seeking genwill be pieced by Mr. Mellon through Messrs. James Hartley Cooper eral banker interest in any other subject than that of the immediate cirsis, & Co., Ltd., at Lloyds. was to continue its campaign of education, constantly urging whole-hearted Mr. Mellon has arranged for the issuance of a bond for $25,000 at a co-operation for the welfare of the basic industry of the nation. mimimum rate of $600 where the number of employees is five or less; Conference at Washington. $700 where the number of employees is 6 to 10; $800 where the number A national conference on the situation in agriculture, called by the of employees is 11 to 15; $900 where the number of employees is 16 to 20; Secretary of Agriculture at Washington, in January, proved to be the most $1,000 where the number of employees is 21 to 25; for the benefit of the representative gathering of the kind ever held in the United States. On small banks where the number of employees is less than 25. At the present time the American companies' minimum rate is $1,250. the suggestion of President McAdams the Commission met at Washington and covers 25 employees. In other words,if a bank only had five employees during the conference, receiving valuable Information and inspiration. they would have to pay the same rate as if a bank had 25 employees, The chairman of the Commission was selected as a delegate to the conference by the Secretary of Agriculture and served on the committee on agriwhich is not equitable. On the minimum bond the American companies are now writing, they cultural credit, insurance and taxation. Mr. W. G. Edens was also a delehave doubled their rates since 1915. On the larger bonds the increase gate and served on the comn.ittee on transportation. Mr. E.J. Bodrnan of has been more. The companies have never submitted the premium the Commission was selected as a delegate but was unable to be present. income and losses on this particular bond to the Insurance Committee, It was very gratifying to have the Commission thus rec,ognized as there but the Burglary Insurance Underwriters' Association, as you know, was necessarily a restriction upon the number of delegates. Reports of conditions in agriculture presented to the conference were most have submitted both the premium income and losses on the bank burglary and robbery business. With the United States Guarantee Co. in the depressing. The chairman of the Commission, however, said at the Unit)! field we hope that other companies will meet the coverage that Lloyds "A solitary ray of sunshine ligntened the black cloud of gloom o'reand this company are giving and also reduce their rates. The Committee spreading the conference. It came from California, the land of sunshine. has been infarmed that there is no connection between the U. S. Guarantee With practically every part of the country reporting a paralysis in the 0o. and Lloyds. farming industry resulting from the sale of products at prices far less than BANKING SECTION. 123 those which plan their programs g Associations of the The most successful State committees are relations are being established the cost of production, the Co-operative Marketin e national in consultation with their colleges. Closer as a beacon of light pointing the way to a profitabl West were between the bankers and these institutions. • agriculture." was aroused, this being the Conferences at State Colleges. National interest in co-operati ee marketing colleges which were e. Its deliberations remain as an one outstanding result of the Conferenc Conferences between bankers and farmers at State State associations interesting textbook to every banker and farmer. increasing In number and influence, were given up by held its third ce were of great importbecause of conditions. The Texas Association, however, . Believing that the proceedings of the Conferen of the "Bankerissue re met at the State ance and should be studied by every banker, a special conference. The Michigan Committee on Agricultu ce and sent to every member of the College of Agriculture during Farmer's Week. Farmer" was given over to the Conferen justly proud that this State college leaders AmericausBankers Association. The Commission is Other State committees held conferences with their Secretary of Agriculspecial issue evoked a letter of commendation from to map out programs. Activities by States. ture Wallace. Marketing. associations, whose The Commission Is glad to repoit that many State looking is that dormant are making The most significant movement of to-day in agriculture committees on agriculture have been mo:v or less Commission addressed view. to better marketing. When the Chairman of the for organization with constructive programs In that pro- plans as a bar to genuine the banker-farmer conference at Washington in 1919, he declared A number ofcommittees assign lack ofsufficient funds g of crops was just as essential as the produetion of the crops work that would be of part benefit to the agriculture of the State. fitable marketin generally outstanding work themselves and said that it was a lamentable fart that. bankers, It is worth while to briefly summarize some of the more speaking. had paid little attention to this vital problem. by State committees on agriculture. ons and seventy-five agricultural The situation is different to-day. Bankers, both by associati Arkansas has made a survey of each of its g and of farmers, individuals, are making careful studies of the problem of marketin be the inspiration for county organizations training counties which will and farms of the State selfthe plans of farmers to solve them. The business experience bankers and merchants which will seek to make the ions which have deexist and is valuable of bankers is needed by the co-operative organizat g. The survey shows deficiencies where they have pros- sustainin ive work. veloped so rapidly and widely. Many of those organizations red foundation for constsuct some kind of club notably the U. S. Grain Growers. Inc., have encounte pered, others, At least half of the hanks of Colorado are engaged in that girls at the State pitfalls. The Commission at Washington by resolution declared work. The association is host annually to boys and co-operative marketing it was heartily in accord with the principle of stock show. plans of the have been awarded and recommended that bankers make careful study f the Ten scholarships In the State College of Agriculture extension of various co-operative organizations with the view of the lines. by Florida. sound Bankers' Association adequate credit facilities to associations functioning along Georgia bankers in co-operation with the Country their interest Is believed to be a Again, the Commission commends to bankers the necessity of organized the Georgia Farm Market Federation which e.ontinued its loan in this remarkable development. practical plan to develop sate farming. Geoigia has hag also been fund for students In the State College of Agriculture. There Rural Education. • an Increased interest In dairying. pins and awards subjects which the Commission for Marketing is one of three major Idaho has co-operated in club work by furnishing ce to American several years has believed to be of the greatest importan of merit. farm tenancy. on on many re. The other subjects are rural education and agricultu Illinois co-operated with the State Agricultural Associati education for subjects as reduction There Is no argument regarding the necessity for better matters of mutual welfare. Time was given to such Banker-Farmer" a constant cam- of corn acreage, rural credits, taxation of farm lands, club work. improved farm boys and girls. Through "The l consolidated schools paign has been waged, calling attention to successfu farm-t.,market roads and reduction of freight rates. work. Indiana bankers .have been doing noteworthy things in club and other plans to Improve rural schools. live-stock imKentucky is cooperating in the organization of a State Tenancy. membership 400 banks. to include in its number of farm owners provement association which expects will it was natural that any efforts to increase the a county agent in each county and e of the abnormal con- The Kentucky Committe seeks in the country would fall into abeyance because club work for boys and girls. e however, should loom large in the encourag the establishing dition of agriculture. This subject, Louisiana bankers, who played such a leading Part in nt of Agriculture e future work of the Commission. The U. S. Departme now seek to insure sufficient legislativ and more light on the of a State college of aviculture, is making a careful study of tenancy and its effects ate a program of safe farming, the institution and contempl to quote a recent utterance support of problem will soon be available. It Is worth while and plant diseases and better roads. his home or his better livestock,elimination of animal of John H. Puelicher, who says, "The man who owns Maine's Interest has been largely directed toward soil fertility. group each owned by his home or farm." farm is in a measure Michigan Is organized with a committee of ten, one from of Agriculture. e in club Dr. 0. L. Stewart of the United States Department and eighty-three county chairmen. Its program urges assistanc loan makes this statement: work, co-operation with farm bureaus, organization of Federal farm , countrS may be lulled to indifference by the needs of "There is danger that the associations in counties where they are needed, careful study the rate of increase of farm tenancy in the United States of each community so as to anticipate essential requirements for loans, reports that tenant farmers per is rapidly diminishing. It is true that the number of of 5%, whereas better schools, marketing and roads. extension thousand grew from 353 in 1900 to 370 in 1910, an increase Missouri, which heretofore had been chiefly interested in the 3%. When turned from 1910 to 1920 it grow from 370 to 381, an increase of only of county agents and better roads, with these protects well along, on the basis of acreage value, however, the number of rented its attention to dairying awl urged greater interest. measured per rented land bankers. acres per thousand and the number of dollars' worth of Montana believes that club work offers a great field for preceding basis, Markets* thousand was not only higher than that shown on the New Jersey's committee c anferred with the State Bureau of fruit faster rates during both of the decades and but has been growing at much worked out a sound plan for financing packing houses for the wer during the decade just ended. While the proportion since 1900. especially w n the proportio work of of rented farms increased by 3% between 1910 and 1920, New York's activities have been confined to support of the club 11%." schools of leased property values and of leased acreage increased the State Cellege. Five scholarships for boys and girls in rural light of this analysis, the tide of tenancy Dr. Stewart holds that in the are provided. its upward flow with little or no abatement. Family a Good Milk Is shown to have continued North Carolina adopted the slogan, "For Every posters Cow," and pu,hed a campaign for more and better cows through Agriculture at White Sulphur. and speakers at group meetings. by bankers your other officers In North Dakota a sweet clover growers' exchange inspired Due to the loyal interest of President McAdame and of the Executive has been an object lesson in constructive co-operation for better marketing. an Agricultural Symposium was held during the meeting feature was the attendance of Better stock is headlined on the North Dakota program. Council at White Sulphur Springs. The a better underFederation. After Ohio's committee issued a series of bulletins to bring about President Howard of the American Farm Bureau States as to their standing between farmers and bankers. These were reprinted In many hearing statements from representatives of various and club work fosnewspapers. Many farm accounts were distributed past work and future plans, Mr. Howard said: felt for many months tered. The Association sends the boys' and girls' champion stock Judging "I feel better at present on this subject than I have bankers are devoting yourselves to the matter. team to the national contest at Atlanta in October. as a result of the way you courses for farmStates." Oklahoma has arranged with its State College four short It promises a great deal for better agriculture in the United ers to which bankers will see that representative farmers come. program. Roaas. comprehensive Pennsylvania has made an excellent start on a ent of better ing to funds for The Commiesion. naturally intereeted in the developm Several counties have been organized with banks contribut . with county highway situation roads, has continued to keep In close touch with the aggressive campaigns for better agriculture in co-operation with the State in continuing agents. Pennsylvania'sleaders have sustained close relations At its Spring meeting it endorsed the action of Congress Is fostering and farm-to-market C Federal aid for the building of inter-State and postal allege of Aericulture and with the county agents. This State urged that this policy better livestock, with the famous Grove City as an example of what It means highways under the Department of Agriculture and to a community. be continued for a definite period. other States Rhode Island has made a survey of banker-farmer activities in Club Work for Boys and Girls. and will seek to put a program into effect. marketing asClub work for boys and girls in the latter part of the present year has South Carolina assisted In the organization of co-operative ons are received a wonderful impetus. Many bankers' State associati sociations and campaigned for diversified farming. in co-operation with the hens and alawarding scholarships, emblems and other prizes South Dakota has urged the increase of corn, hogs, cows, l extension departments of the State colleges and courtless individua banks falfa, dairy industry club work. The National Committee Tennessee's committee is encouraging club work and the are engaging In various kinds of is receiving the co-operation of the Com- among other protects. on Boys and Girls Club Work to extend the scope of this activity. e at the State College. mission In its laudable program Texas held its annual farmer-banker conferenc ce as in previous ble activities conducted by indiClub work is only one of Innumera although conditions militated against as large as attendan banks. There has been aroused a great interest in better livestock years. vidual fund of $1,000 In increasing dairying In their prominent Vermont banks have been the majority contributors to a and many banks have been which has been u •:ed to promote club work. Communities. the bankerU. S. Department of Agriculture. Wiscoriein's chief activity continues to be the conduct of the farmers of the State and other States as to sustain close and friendly relations farmer exchange, by which in the sale and purchase of stock and The Commission has continued assistance Agriculture. Secretary Wallace in mahy well are afforded valuable State College monthly bulletins have been with the U. S. Department of importance of the banker as an seed. In co-operation with the by the award ways has shown that he recognizes tne , farm account books sold and club work encouraged published which to roach the farmer. Other leaders In the Department agency with of the ban ers of the of pins. potentital influence ing of interest in have continued to recognize the Wyoming has concentrated on club work and encourag as an avenue by which to use it. country and to use the Commission production. urged upon bankers the importance of obtaining livestock chronicled. The Commission has There.4re other States whose activities might well be and State College of Agriculture authorities. the counsel of the United States 124 BANKERS' CONVENTION. "The Banker-Farmer." nations of the other Allies have been partly collected by them through the The "Banker-Farmer" has carried on its two-fo ld program of chronicling clearing houses established under the Treaty of Versailles. These collecdevelopments in the field of banker-farmer activity, by associations and tions have been made on the basis of the gold mark as the German mark was individual banks, and by publishing such articles of a general nature as close to par when the war broke out in August 1914. seem likely to be helpful and inspiring. Authoritat ive messages from leadAmerican holders of pre-war mark balances in Germany have never ers in the U. S. Department of Agriculture and the State colleges of agricul- been able to obtain payment even though their rights under the two treaties ture have appeared. The single purpose of the publicatio n is to arouse and mentioned are clearly defined. Individual efforts to effect a settlement, strengthen the interest of the bankers of America in agriculture and country flaying failed to bring results, the Commerce and Marine Commission took life. up the matter and advised interested bankers that they would make a During the 12 months from September 1921 to August 1922, 156,290 presentation of the whole situation in principle covering such total amount copies were published, of which 66,425 were distribute d to banks through of mark balances as were filed with the Commissio n for this purpose. State associations. Of the remainder, 89,865, the greater portion was obBankers generally throughout the country responded to this tained by banks for distribution among their farmer offer and customers, believing mark balances amounting to many millions of marks were registered with that this would create a better understanding on their part of the ambition the Commission. of the banker to do his part for agriculture. In order to make a proper presentation of the matter the State Departto ment,it was found desirable to have the advice of an attorney. The Future. The Commission was particularly fortunate in obtaining the services If is the belief of the Commission that no class outside of one of the of the farmer him- best international lawyers in the United States, Mr. Chandler self can do so much to bring about a permanent, safe, P. Anderson, profitable system of who, realizing abriculture and a contented country life, a goal which that the Commerce and Marine Commission represented a must be reached for voluntary organization which had taken up the matter on principle, the welfare of the Republic. At no time has the and Commission lost sight without any possible pecuniary advantage to itself, agreed of the fact that the farmer himself must produce efficiently to co-operate and and that unless he does no legislation or marketing facility economically with the Chairman of the Commission for the good of the Associatio n will insure his without remuneration. property. In the question of credit, marketing and other fields, however, A brief was prepared by Mr. Anderson and he accompani there is a rich opportunity for the banker to give assistance ed the Chairman and his interest of the Commission to make a presentation of the matter to the Secretary will be rewarded in the general prosperity of his region. of State, who took the question under advisement. Certain decisions There is every sign that the time is ripe for more concerted have action by bank- been rendered and Mr. Anderson is now in Europe where he expects ers' associations and for a widening of the influence on to conthis great Associatinue the negotiations, which, it is hoped, may open the way to tion. the collection of the pre-war balances due American interests as soon as the To the officers of the American Bankers Association economic and State Associa- situation makes it possible to do so. tions and to the countless individual bankers who have co-operated with it, It is essential that all sources of friction between the nations that the Commission wishes to express its gratitude. were caused by the war be removed as rapidly as possible and the Commerce and Marine Commission, in taking up the question of the pre-war mark Report of the Commerce and Marine Commiss ion, balances due American banks, and others, had this thought in mind, feeling that a successful settlement of this question would be of value by Fred I. Kent, Vice-President Bankers to Trust all American citizens as well as to those directly concerned. Co., New York. Gentlemen: The large number of important matters which were presented to the Commerce and Marine Commissio n for its consideration, and that naturally came before it in connection with the purposes which brought about its creation, were such that it, became necessary to divide the work among several sub-committees whose reports will be brought into this general report. Liaison With the Department of Commerce. The Department of Commerce ofthe United States is constantly in receipt of cable and mail information from its various agents in the United States and throughout the world which could be made of tremendous value to bankers and business men throughout the country if placed before them in some systematic and simple manner. With the idea of accomplishing such distribution of information. the Honorable Herbert Hoover, Secretary or Commerce, instructed his heads of departmen ts to Commerce and Marine Commission of the American co-operate with the Bankers Association in every way possible. As a result, a liaison has been formed between the Department of Commerce and the Commerce and Marine Commission which has been functioning most satisfactorily and that has already brought, and is going to continue to bring, most excellent results. "The Commerce Reports" which are published by the Department of Commerce are being studied carefully by a sub -committee of tne Commerce and Marine Commission in conjunction with Dr. Klein and his Assistant Directors in the Department of Commerce, and it is rapidly becoming of very great importance as a carrier of up-to-date and essential business information. It would be impossible to overstate the enthusiasm,and general desire, to be helpful in this work that has prevailed with Secretary Hoover and all of his department heads. Study on Conditions in Russia. Observing the need of more definite information concerning economic and political conditions in Russia and the variety of unreliable information current among American business men and commercial organizati ons on the subject of Russia, your Commission concluded to publish a document which would give as much accurate information as could be made available. Accordingly during the month of August the Commission published a brochure entitled "Russia, A Consideration of Conditions as Revealed by Soviet Publications." The material was gathered from tee files of the Department of Commerce and is based upon numerous translations from Soviet sources. It was at first proposed to print enought booklets for general distribution to all members of the American Bankers' Associatio n, but we later concluded not to broadcast them in such fashion due to the expense involved. We, therefore, had a quantity printed which, it was considered, would cover the demand created by announcement of its publication. They were first distributed to members of the Commission and to a selected list of individuals known to be interested in the subject. Copies were sent then to the larger general and economic libraries throughout the country and then to university libraries. Since then, such institutions as the University of Chicago and Harvard University have requested further copies for use in classroom work in business administration courses. Copies were also sent to the secretaries of fifteen hundred business organizations in the United States and elsewhere, including the largest organizations of each industry in America. We have had numerous requests from members of the American Bankers Association for copies and we still have a sufficient number on hand to cover a reasonable demand. A digest of the pamphlet has been prepared by the Office of the Secretary and has since been published in the September number of the "Journal of the American Bankers Association." This study is unique, being the first work on the subject prepared with care from basic data divorced from propaganda of any sort, and the Commission has been widely commended for its publication at an opportune time. Austrian Balances. The President of the Austrian Bankers Association advised the Commission that Austrian bankers are willing to make a settlement of pre-war Austrian balances due American bankers on a basis of 10% of their prewar value (about 10 cents each when the United States entered the war)• although they are not bound to do so by treaty or otherwise. This sue gestion has now been made by letter direct from the Austrian bankers to each individual American depositor. Even though this means the payment of a sum many times larger than the present value of the Austrian krone, the Austrian bankers felt that an offer on their part of settlement on this basis would so serve to show their good faith that they would be warranted in making payment on this basis even though the Austrian finances are in such a deplorable condition. Whether American bankers interested care to accept this offer of the Austrian bankers is entirely a matter for their individual consideration and the Commerce and Marine Commission did not feel warranted in making any recommendation, although they have acknowledged the letter of the President of the Austrian Bankers Association and expressed their appreciation of the attitude of the Austrian bankers. Cable Codes of Hungarian Correspondents. A number of institutions having reported the loss of cable codes which had been lodged with their correspondent institutions in Hungary by reason of their having been confiscated during the Bolshevik regime, your Commission undertook to enlist the assistance of the State Departmen t and the Department of Commerce in the recovery of these codes which, besides being highly confidential, are also of considerable replacement value. The efforts being made have not yet borne fruit, but we expect to obtain the restitution of these codes. • Exchange of Banking Representatives At the meeting of the Commission held on May 8th, it was resolved "to appoint a committee of three to investigate and report upon a plan under which an exchange of banking representatives between the United States and South American countries might be undertaken for the purpose of bringing about a closer commercial understanding." This report will not be presented at this meeting by reason of the fact that it has not been found possible to complete the work upon the plan. We are, however, in communication with certain of the South American governments and hope to present a report at a later meeting of the Commission which will treat of this matter at length. As the plan is presently unfinished, it would be premature to go into details thus far developed. Re: Charts Prepared By National Industrial Conference Board. In co-operation with the National Industrial Conference Board, the Commerce and Marine Commission have had a series of charts prepared aimed to bring together in a concise and graphic manner the principal elements in the economic problems which are before the world to-day for solution. It was felt that a much clearer understanding of the fundamentals of the present situation could be obtained by bankers throughou t the this means than in any other manner of presentation possible. country by It is hoped that it may be found practicable to reduce the charts to phamplet form for distribution to bankers desiring them and the Natilonal Industrial Conference Board has agreed to work with the Commerce and Marine Commission in developing such a phamplet. The notes which accompany the charts, which have been placed in the lobby of the conventio n hall, are only leaders to enable a start to be made in their study, but as the charts carry within them a tremendous amount of valuable information, it is hoped that bankers generally may be interested in going over them carefully. Financial Statement of the Commission. THE MATTER OF PRE-WAR BALANCES. The financial statement of the Commission is covered in full detail in German Balances. the Treasurer's report and therefore nothing need be mentioned here except When the United States entered the war many American interests, to say that the cost of the work carried on by the National Industrial Conbanks, corporations, firms and individuals had cash on deposit with banks ference Board in connection with the preparation of the financial charts in Germany. These funds were in German marks, which were quoted at already referred to in the report, could not be ascertained in time to have the time around 17qc. each. the bill go against this year's appropriation, and it will , therefore, have to Under the Treaty of Peace between the United States and Germany and be paid out of funds to be allotted the Commision this coming year. in connection with the Treaty of Versailles, as referred to in such Treaty The large credit which the Commission was able to turn back to the Treasof Peace, these mark deposits are clearly a prior lien to reparations. The urer, as shown in the Treasurer' s report, will, therefore, be reduced by this Allies have admitted such prior lien in effect and mark balances due the amount in determini ng the cost of the work of the Commission for 1922. BANKING SECTION. 125 later meeting, when the final plan, which has the approval of these comREPORTS TO CHAIRMAN OF SUB-COMMITTEE OF THE mercial organizations, may be submitted." COMMISSION. The Commission authorized the committee to carry out its recommendation. Report of the Sub-Committee On American Merchant Marine By Milton E. Ailes. of "Transit Zones" in the Marine Report of the Sub-Committee on EstablishmentWing. "Under date of July 12 1912. a Committee of the Commerce and United States—By Daniel G. report upon the subiect of Commission was designated to consider andAmerican Merchant Marine, on Commerce and Marine, held "At the last meeting of the Commission granting reasonable government aid to the May 8 1922 at White Sulphur Springs, a resolution was adopted providing and to co-operate with the Chairman of the United States Shipping Board for the appointment of a committee to consider the estanlishment of'free in such manner as developing conditions should justify. ports' for the re-export of commodities from the United States. "This Committee now has the honor to submit the following report: "The committee appointed, in pursuance of this resolution, has given vessels "The United States finds itself in possession of a large fleet of United study to the matter and the following report, being its conclsions in brief, built as the result of war time emergency. With these vessels the under is submitted for your consideration: is now maintaining adequate transportation States Shipping Board "Briefly stated, the institution known as a 'free port' is'an isolated, enthe AMerican flag, but with disadvantages as to types of vessels employed closed and policed area, in or adjacent to a port of entry, without resident and only at great cost to the public treasury. has reached a point in its population, furnished with the necessary facilities for loading and unloadStates "It is well recognized that the United ing, for supplying fuel and ships' stores, for storing goods, and for reindustrial and commercial development where increase in foreign trade is shipping them by land and water; an area within which goods may be essential to the marketing ofsurplus agricultural products and manufactured landed, stored, mixed, blended, repacked, manufactured and reshipped on demestic consumption, it goods. If producers were to depend altogether without payment of duties and without the intervention of castoms officials. is believed that there would be a recurring demoralization of prices, due to It is subject equally with adjacent regions to all the laws relating to public prosover-production. To a considerable extent, therefore, a stabilized inter- health, vessel inspection, postal service, labor conditions, immigration, against perity depends upon adequate transportation guaranteed and, indeed, everything except customs.' ruption by the carrier under our own flag of the greater part thereof." "History presents very clear evidence that the development of the great 'Government ownership and operation of the fleet, in the opinion of commercial nations of this and the preceding century has been due to a large of this your Committee, is impracticable, as well as costly. A recognition the institution of 'free ports.' British ports, for example, are the fact has led to the policy of attempting to sell into private ownership has extent to market places and clearing houses for distribution of the diversified counters, vessels which constitute the Government fleet. No ready market products of the entire world. Cargoes are brought to England and then rebeen found for these vessels because of the high cost of operating ships under shipped to every. port on the globe. There are also a number of ContiAmerican registry, and besides it is generally recognized that the war nental cities, such as Bremen, Hamburg, Lubeck, Copenhagen and Antbuilt fleet, although large, is not adequate for the proper carriage of our werp, owe their wealth and importance, after geographical location, foreign trade, through lack of many important types of vessels; nor does to thewhichof 'free ports.' idea this fleet assure to the United States the possession of vessels suitable for "It is entirely feasible for us to compete with these long established that there use as naval auxiliaries in time of war. It is further recognized by the extension of our present warehousing system and is need of such types because of the action taken by the nations of the world European ports of a series of such ports on our seaboard. This would in limiting their naval strength, and these desirable types of ships are not the establishment the mean that the United States would then be in a position to supply and now being built because of the cost of construction in American shipyards. which our South American, African much "Your Committee believes, therefore, that as a necessary step in the Asiaticdesired mixed cargoes customers and prospective customers require, rather than simple national prosperity the development of our foreign trade essential to bulk too much of one or two commodities. Government fleet should be sold to private operators, and that such steps ones which Port' program in the United States has nevertheless developed "The 'Free should be taken as would lead to the building of those types of vessels which considerable bitter opposition, some of it of a most uncompromising nature. with a view our merchant marine now lacks, and which should be built The chief antagonism, however, appears to lie in nothing more serious than to use as naval auxiliaries in case of war. of the term 'free' as applied to ports. It has "Your Committee believes that these national needs can be fulfilled an erroneous interpretation construed as being in some way related to the cost of apparently been frequently only by extending national aid sufficient to equalize the higher doctrine of free trade and has consequently found itself with a ready-made constructing and operating American ships. The United States Shipping phalanx of opponents at the very outset. With this in the mind the term Board, after a thorough study of the situation, has drafted, and the Presi- 'free port' should be dropped as misleading and the more precise appelladent of the United States has approved, a ship subsidy bill, a summary of tion of 'transit zone' be adopted. which is attached to this report. "'Transit zones' in this country could be established with a very minimum "Your Committee highly commends this bill to the American Bankers' amount of enabling legislation. Their creation .would measurably hasten of the Association, and urges that it receives the full support not only merchant marine; they would as individuals, and that as individuals the re-establishment of a healthy American Africa and Asia by trade conAssociation but of all of its members their efforts to link the United States with South America, the members of the American Bankers' Association lend the bill into law. nections which would tend to promote friendly relations, supply an easier educate popular opinion to the end that Congress will enact Shipping Board outlet and stimulate demand for American goods. They would enable "Your Committee is advised that the Chairman of the Commerce merchants to meet the trade needs of other countries by supplying mixed will be pleased to communicate to the Association through its developing cargoes. They would facilitate and cheapen re-exportation and by elimiand Marine Commission, suggestions from time to time which nating passage of material through the Customs House (unless actually for conditions may warrant." report sale or use in the United States), the handling of goods intended for reThe sense of the Commission regarding this matter was that the expedited. Committee 'with approval in principle, exportation would be greatlythe contrary, notwithstanding, the financial should be given to the Resolutions "Our many assertions to bill that but without recommendation at the moment as to any special centre of the world will never have been transplanted to the United States be placed before Congress. might until we can show facilities to compete with London as the consignment by market and the 'middleman' of the world. The establishment of our own Report of the Sub-Committee on Value of the United States Warehouse Act Robert F. Maddox. 'transit zones' will bring to us an increasing share of international commerce our banking and trade relations with other "Realizing the great importance of enabling the farmers to market their and exchange will reinforce is confirmed in its belief that in order to deconsuming needs of the countries. Your committee crops more orderly and in closer relation to the it is desirable and necessary to country, your Commission has deemed it appropriate to consider and velop foreign trade of the United States and in conclusion your committee recomof comment briefly upon the U.S. Warehouse Act passed by Congress in 1916. establish a seriesby 'transit zones'Bankers' Association of a resolution to be cotton, mends adoption the American "This Act was passed to give to warehouse receipts covering public interest and to the grain, wool and tobacco Government sanction and supervision, and pre- presented to other bodies of influence in the scribed rules and regulations under which they could be issued to give Congress of the United States, as follows: American Bankers' Association that 'Whereas, It is the opinion of the these receipts added value as collateral. Thus permitting the farmer to the United States would more easily secure loans from banks and to hold his product until he wished the establishment of a series of 'transit zones' in country, and, to sell. Very little was accomplished by the Act until the early part of tend to greatly increase the foreign trade of this "'Whereas, This increase in trade will bring added wealth and prosperity 1921, but since then, the Act has been better appreciated, and proven to to the people of the United States, and be of great help to both banker and farmer. "'Whereas, The friendly relations betweenythe United States and the "Up to Sept. 1922 there were 687 warehouses in all parts of the country d be greatly strengthwhich had accepted the provisions of the Act and were issuing warehouse South American. African and Asiatic countriesiwoul the U. S. standards and bonded ened, now therefore be it receipts showing weights and grades under Association should urge before "'Resented, That the American Bankers as the law required, divided, viz.: the Congress of the United States the advisability of legislation to provide Capacity Kind of Warehouse. Number— " our coasts.' 1.895,000 bales for the establishment of a series of 'transit zones' along cotton 369 14,507,747 bush. grain The recommendations of the sub-committee were approved by the 248 24,130,250 lbs. wool 19 Commission. 225,000,000 lbs. tobacco 51 Report of the Sub-Committee on for the most part are located directly in tne producing "These warehouses "Cancellation of the War Debts of the Allies" by John McHugh. areas and therefore directly serving the farmer and giving the receipt local value, as well as making it more desirable collateral in the money centres Mr. McHugh developed a general discussion as to the whole European asefulness. and providing a wider field for its of the Commission were seemingly unanimous "The rapidity with which the co-operative marketing associations are situation. While members would be of tremendous being organized throughout the country and the variety of products which in the belief that cancellation of the war debts plan is making it necessary to economic value, yet there was a difference of opinion as to the advisability are now being brought into this new selling give the warehouse receipt more careful consideration by both banker and of making any statement regarding cancellation just at this time. The farmer. McHugh's statements, which showed con"The U. S. Warehouse Act is just now coming into its own and the pro- Commission, in view of Mr. will with dacer, the banker and the public generally win be materially benefited by clusively the serious conditions which now exist in Europe which it has opened a great deal of credit to certainty be reflected in the business of the United States unless they tnis piece of legislation. Certainly the producer which he would not otherwise have had, and it also guards • change for the better soon, instructed Mr. McHugh and the Chairman to the interests of those who make loans with warehouse receipts covering prepare a statement for the Resolutions Committee expressing concern agricultural products as collateral. Your committee wishes to commeno the Act to your consideration and over the present European situation and giving importance to the position many advantages will be of growing benefit to the country." believes its the inter-Allied debts hold in the commercial relations between the naThe sense of the Commission, after hearing Mr. Maddox's report and his Congress extend the powers of the further remarks concerning it was that the United States Warehouse Act tions concerned and recommending that has developed a system of real value to the country and the Commission Debt Funding Commission so as to enable them to negotiate with better recommended that action be taken aimed to extend knowledge of the sys- effect. tem to bankers generally. Except for minor matters that constantly come before the Commission Memorandum on Thrift Plan for Consideration of Commerce and Marine for ccnsideration that are not of sufficient importance in themselves to Committee, A. B. A. warrant covering in detail in this report, no further matters are before the "The sub-committee appointed to consider and report on a plan to encourage thrift among employees of industrial institutions has had before it Commission at the moment. many plans which have been in operation in industrial concerns throughout the country. There can be no doubt that a tnrift plan approved by Branch Banking. the banks of the country will be welcomed by employers generally and the sub-committee feels that it is highly important that a well considered plan of should be worked out and distributed among industrial depositors by bank- Discussion Opened by Andrew J. Frame, Chairman of the Board ing institutions. In order, however, to avoid any fe:ling that the banks the Waukesha National Bank, Waukesha, Wis. actuated by self interest in putting forward a thrift plan, the sub-comare President Adams: The question now before us for consideration is, mittee believes that before any action is taken by the A. B. A. the co-opertheir ation of national organizations, such as the Unhed States Chamber of Com- "Shall national banks be prevented from establishing branches within National Manufacturers' Association, shoaid be secured, so home cities where this privilege is exercised by State banks?" merce and the that the final plan can be advanced as the joint product of banking and offered at the opening of its session yesUnder the terms of the resolution principal classificabusiness. Thrift plans now in opezation fall into twoprovides for the colbe introduced during this distions. The first utilizes the facilities of the employer,through deduction terday, it will be in order for resolutions to cashier lection of savings each week by the company separate accounta the bank cussion under the terms of Article IX. of the constitution. We regret exin pay check, and gives each employee a from the ceedingly that more time than an hour and a quarter cannot be devoted to where the thrift savings are deposited. employers themselves the responsi- this important question, but I am sure you will appreciate the fact that in the "The second plan places uponthrough some designated representative, condensing our activities into three days, by assigning one-eighth of our bility for collecting the savings account. The employers' which savings are then deposited in a single designated representative total time to it, we realize the importance of the question to every member contribution under this plan is to allow the hours. only of this Association. the institution during working .. to operate o Marine The discussion will be opened with two addresses of fifteen minutes each ommittee -committee recommends that the Commerce andnational Comcom- and will afterwards be followed by speeches of not over five minutes from with the sun committee to get in touch or the mittee authorize other of the their approval of one subject; the total discussion finally mercial organizations to secure your sub- those wishing to be heard upon the many plans which have been under consideration, to the end that at a terminating at 1 o clock. It will be absolutely necessary to ask every committee may report back to the Commerce and AVIarine Committee 1213 BANKERS' CONVENTION. speaker to limit himself to the time referred to and at the conclusion of the Official statistics clearly show that failures of banks and losses to depostime without any respect to individuals, or without desire to hurt anyone's itors in Canada, compared with our national banking system, exceed ours feelings, the gavel will rap and the floor will be accorded his successor. several times over. These facts are confirmed by at least one eh-amanger The first speaker is the dean of all those who have opposed branch bank- of a big central bank in Canada, in testimony before the U S Senate Coming in America for FO many years. I present Mr. Andrew Frame of Wis- mittee, as shown in the monetary commission report:. Be says losses are consin. five to one in our favor. Canada has 3,000,000 square miles of territory. Het banking power is less than little Massachusetts alone. She is asleep Remarks of Andrew J. Frame. compared to our progress. Mr. Andrew J. Frame: As I do not wear the ermine I leave the law to As to monopolization putting "credit under trade and the Empire,' I take its own course. I speak only to upbuild the nation at large. respectfully quote briefly from a long article some years ago in the Toronto To our mind the paramount question before the American people to-day "Star": seems to be, Does the doom of the 30,000 independent banks of the U. S. CANADIAN BRANCH BANKING SYSTEM. impend? The proofs seem conclusive that these banks have done more to upbuild this powerful nation than all the cream skimming monopolistic "Monster banking monopoly a leech at Canada's throat, killing loca banks have done for other nations. If so, this nation's greatest progress Industry, depopulating rural districts. Centralization of almost entirr is at stake. Let us brief the case. financial power in the hands of a few capitalists has resulted from oue From an earnest study of the "IIIstory of Banking in All Nations," as much-vaunted banking system. Almost total extermination of local banks. well as other reliable authorities; from a practical banking experience in Planting of a 'oraneh' to suck out local earnings," &c. the U. S. for more than sixty years, wherein I have seen wildcat currency "To this accursed system of concentration of credit, the Dominion of and wildcat banking expunged from all the States tolerating these ex- Canada stands indebted for a contracted population of 7,000.0011 in place of crescences. In fact, in Wisconsin as one of the chiefsinners, I was chairman 25,000,000 rightfully due it under decentralized systems of banks, designed of a banking committee that drew the statute which, thanks to our splendid to sustain, to breathe the breath of economic life throughout the remotest bank commissioner s administration of the law, has resulted in but three as well as the most insulated of its parts," &c. small failures in nineteen years wherein a depositor has lost a dollar of his May I add. In a letter to me from the Chairman of a Canadian Royal capital. I have also seen Old World banking recede from some independent Committee appointed to investigate branch banking, saye: -The great obbanking freedom, to monopolistic banking, colossal failures and appalling jection to the Canadian banking system is that it concentrates the banking losses to depositors, which should be object lessons to warn our statesmen profits and influence in two large cities, Montreal and Toronto This also to pause before handing over our destinies to the tender mercies of any applies to all business—manufacturing, traaing. insurance ana mortgage autocratic banking power. May we ask, Has not autocracy and oppression loans." His address before the Iowa State convention last June Is very wrecked the equilibrium of the whole world? We might concede some small advantages may accrue to a favored few under Branch Banking but This indictment seems to be confirmed by Waiter L. Baker of Toronto. In the language of the immortal Lincoln "the greatest good to the greatest Canada, who has long been in practical banking in Canada. and who lately number" would be practically eliminated. There are some natural mon- published a nook entitled "Money Monopoly vs. the Community Dollar." opolies. Surely Branch Banking is not one of them. I commend its reading to anyone desiring light. As space forbids, we forbear further quotations, except to say as the SPECIAL LEGISLATION. independent banking system of the United States has sustained her wonderSince 1916, when the American Bankers'Association, after a full discussion ful development; has floated in the briefest time the most colossal loan camwith but two dissenting voices "condemned branch banking in any form," paign (nor known: has upheld the credit of the groat nations of Europe in which resolution has never been reversed by the Association, the propa- the world struggle to the extent of eleven pillions of dollars, to which we can gandists in the press have flooded the nation with such sophistical preach- add five b'llions on private account; our pre-war debts of say five billions ments as these: are also paid, and to-day we dre a creditor nation for some si..teenbillions of "Ist. That branch banking serves the people better. dollars, therefore may we not fairly assume that it is not necessary to "2d. That under branch banking, failures and losses to depositors are nonopolize, to "prevent panics and failures and put credit under trade and lessened. the Empire"? "3d. That, because a few of our States have granted to State banks Evidently, an occasional twig cut from an Independent system, but argely in cities the special privilege to have branches, therefore, the national strengthens that system, whereas under branch banking, when the tree banks should have some of the pork." and all its branches fall. then a gloat public calamity follows. In answer to Nos. 1 and 2 I here leave to an intelligem, public to draw Its own conclusions as to Let us quote from the world's history some whether or no branch Drinking is better and failures and losses are loss than ours. Now let us take up ASTOUNDING FACTS. QUESTION NO. 3. Without going back to the destructive panics in Great Britain under its branch banking system from 1836 to 1839-1847 and 1857, where accordShould special legislation be permitted to favor a few monopolists which ing to Henry Dunning MacLeod, "private banks stopped discounting would but drive the wedge in further and later Canadianize our whole altogether. When universal ruin was at last impending," &c., permit me banking system? to quote by way of comparison in later years: In 1866. when Overend We answer most emphatically. Not Gurney & Co. failed for £10,000,000 the bank failures in Great Britain The U. S. Comptroller of the Currency is quoted as saying. "If if had aggregated the stupendous sum of £50,000,000. been my duty to make laws of the various States of the Union. I should_not In 1878 three banks in Scotland with some 200 branches failed for have permittea branch banking." £20,000,000 with a deficit in assets about equal to the total losses to all Again while most State laws absolutely prohibit branch banking and7a the depositors of all the national banks of the United States since 1863. few permit it in cities only, two or three States have opened the door wide. Our banking power averaged 100 times these three banks. A MENACE OR NOT? In 1890 the Barings failed for £21,000,000 but was liquidated by the London banks for fear of a general upheaval. California. Thus in 1866. 1878 and 1890 liabilities totaled £91.000,000. According California has 280 branches out of 000 in the State. The Bank of to the report of the Comptroller of the Currency in 1901, the total liabilities, Italy has some 60 in various eections of the State and the end seems not 1863 to 1901 of failed national banks was £37,000,000 Yet. The First National Bank of Los Angeles has absorbed some 25 1863 to 1898 of all other banks in the United States 44,000,000 branches and the independent banks throughout California are in a state of panic over coercive measures that seem to say "sell out to us or we Total £81,000,000 will drive you out of existence." Michigan. This is $50,000,000 short of British failures in the panics of 1866-1878 and In Michigan, the law prohibits branch banking except in cities. In 1890 alone, not counting intermediate failures for forty years. London's last bank failure with branches occurred in December 1920, Detroit there are 168 branches of ten State banks. The president of the First National Bank there pleads that because State banks have this with estimated losses of $14,000,000. The American "Encyclopedia" for 1893 says of Australia: "Out of special privilege, therefore, national banks should also. Ile says "As 28 banks with 1,700 branches, 13 of them with 800 or 000 branches failed a matter of tact, branch banks ate nothing more in effect than 'branch in 6 months for X90.000,000." A moratorium of' five years was given in offices, to receive deposits'—for the branch as a rule makes no loans. The which to recover. Iler banking power approximated one-sixth of ours. branch manager has authority to loan up to $500 or $1,000 but 'applications above this Omit go before the head office," largely miles away. A . Are failures and losses less than under our system? beautitul and enticing picture for the suburban resident who has spent Again. Edward II. Holden in 1919, then Chairman of the Board of Directors his life in upbuilding his section through community banking trade, manu• Sir of the Amalgamated London Joint City and Midland Bank, which had facturing, &c. In short, give us power to skim the crea:m from the suburbs 1,300•(now 1,600) branches and $1,600,000,000 deposits (now $1,800,000,- and leave the skim milk for those who produce lb. 000) pleaded: Missouri. • 1. "These banking amalgamations have prevented panics and have Branch banking is not permitted under her laws. The suburban banks put credit under trade and the Empire. of St. Louis became alarmed because the First National Bank there took • 2. "Large and powerful banks are indispensable to raise £300,000,000 steps to open "offices' in South St. Louis miles away, in competition sterling to restore the industries after the war," &c. . with the several strong banks there which had borne the heat and burden Permit me to say, the not profits in 1918 were 54%, on the capital or of decades developing local industries, &c. in say 27% on capital and surplus, therefore is branch banking philanthropic Wisconsin. or what? The average profits of all national banks since 1863 approximated 8 or 9% per annum. The 1,600 branches itibmit for head office At the 1922 State Bankers Convention, the following appeal was broadconclusions, all loans over $500 before action thereon. casted, 'Are you awake and ready to combat the new 'branch bank' Some thirty years ago over 86% of Great Britain's banking power was menace which is threatenieg to 'wipe out' the independent city and country subject to say eighty central banks, which now through amalgamation is banks of Ametica?" The reply with a full house unanimously thundered approval. reduced to five. Resolved. By the Wisconsin Bankers Association in 1922 convention Less than ten great banks practically dominate the whole banking power avoidance? assembled that we are unalterably opposed to branch banking in any of France and Germany. Are these not object lessons for our form in the State or nation, and that we deplore their recent growth in CANADA. some other States and be it further Resolvea, That we will regard the establishment of branch banks In In Canada some seventeen central banks (reduced more than one-half through amalgamations and failures in less than thirty years) now skim this State as an act unfriendly to the banks of Wisconsin. leaving only the skim milk for the rural the cream from over 4,600 branches, Ohio and Michigan. and suburban populations. Branches have no local stockholders, no presComptroller Crissinger says, to illustrate: "In my own State of Ohio, idents, or cashiers They loan no money to farmers on mortgages. They practically -pay no taxes and have figureheads for managers,subject to alien we have a bank in Cleveland, operating under a State charter, with 46 officers' orders. The most serious objection is practically no profits are branches In that city, and is now extending its operations throughout distributed !wady where they arc made, thus impoverishing the nation at large the State and has absorbed—practically put out of business—all the big national banks in Cleveland. Take the city of Detroit, with only thrti for the sole benefit of monopolizers in the great cen.res. BANKING SECTION. 127 out of business of a branch bank maintained by any of its members, irrespective of what national banks (all rather husky) the rest having been put the law will permit. If, on the other hand, it believes that the resolution by 185 State banks and branches" Con- of condemnation passed at the Kansas City Convention was too sweeping Parallel conditions might be multiplied in Illinois. Minnesota, and that there are circumstances under which,branch banking is conservanecticut and other States. its peril or tive and justifiable, then it should lend its hearty co-operation to securing With such conditions before us will this nation awake to under such conservative and safe conditions the right of a National bank sleep at the switch? can "put out of to establish branches along with those of State banks. Query: If a few big State banks, having branches, The question has become very acute during the past few years through are endowed business" all other competitors and the big national banks t State the establishment of branches by State banks in all parts of the country, in with like powers, how long will it take to put all the independen direct competition with the National banks in that same locality and with and national banks out of business? no power on the part of the latter to retaliate. Now, when a National Have the smaller banks of this nation no rights which the monopolist bank finds itself confronted with such competition and finds that it is is bound to respect? t banks losing its business through its inability to take the same step as its comIf it is a slow poison that is eating out the life of the independen upon the petitor, what possible courses of action are open to it? in a few States, is that a sound reason for grafting the cancer First, it can supinely sit down and lose its business to its competitor. great national banking system? to Surely no red-blooded man will approve of this, and the A. B. A. cannot The honeyed transparent suggestions that are being freely used for like afford to endorse it. convince Congress, to permit branches of national banks in cities, door to Secondly, it can surrender its National bank charter and become a State reasons as are now given, if granted would surely open wide the half bank. Such a course, if generally followed, would lead to the destruction Oanadianize both our banking systems. "This nation cannot live of the National bank system, and seriously threaten to disrupt the entire slave and half free." for Federal Reserve System of which the National Banks form the back-bone. The National Bank Act apparently prohibits branch banking, yet be an admission that the formation of a sixty years, though bills to amend the law permitting it have repeatedly Furthermore, such action would of branch is good banking, but that the Nat'onal Banks are not to be perbeen presented in Congress, according to the Chairman of the House to the mitted to be progressive. Representatives Banking Committee, "It has not been possible, up Thirdly, it can temporarily surrender its charter, become a State bank, present time to get a bill in any form whatsoever through Congress that would absorb a bank with branches, or form branches of its own and renew its authorize national banks to have branches." In view of these facts, is it not amazing that any comptroller of the National charter. of banker Fourthly, it can establish branches and call them "offices." Both currency should approve of branches? Is it not amazing that any ways of doing what the bank believes to be should, defy this record and proceed to drive the wedge further toward these last two plans are indirect of the law, and States right, but they are apparent evasions of the possible intent monopolizing our independent banking systems? Because a few a if they are right the law should be RO changed as to make the bank's right permit the cancerous growth to eat out the vitals ofsome localities, is that clear and unequivocal and to establish the proper restrictions and limitasound reason for grafting the cancer upon the nation at large? Do these banks, claiming the congressionally denied right, need to tions. our Fifthly, it can endeavor to deprive a State bank of its unfair power. absorb other banks to keep them from starvation? We all glory in in fair This latter, however, is practically impossible. Branch banking is pergreat central banks' success when they stand on their own legs, selfish- mitted in 17 States, prohibited in 16, and in the other 15 and in the District competition with the independent banks of the nation. Is supreme of Columbia there is no specific provision on the subject. In a number ness to override justice toward all? my main of the latter State branches exist, and even in many of those States which Permit me to quote from a few eminent authorities to sustain of the • prohibit branches those branches which were in existence at the time contentions: States passage of thelaw are permitted to remain. So that the number of The "American Banker," New York, says: not to have in which branches do not and cannot exist is very small. It is manifestly "We believe with Mr. Crissinger that the best thing is the preservation of impossible to change the laws of so many States or to interfere with the branch banking in any form, and we also believe that the preservation charter rights of banks having the privilege. our independent banking system is more important even than is r instead It is self-evident, then, that the only solution of the problem which of our national banking system. Let us hope, that the Comptrolle any fairbranch banking from a defensive cpen to any reasonable defense and which can commend itself to of encouraging national banks to go into national banks, at of branch banking minded person is such a change of law as will permit viewpoint will co-operate in legislation to stop the extension least in those States which permit branch banking to the State institutions, in the Slates." the York: to establish branches within the corporate limits of their city. Now, The "Commercial & Financial Chronicle," New preserved only possible objections that can be urged to such a coursi may be divided "We would have our individual free and independent nationals banking is not conbanks preserved. into two classes: the theoretical objection that branch from this encroachment just as we would have our State servative and that proper supervision cannot be kept over a banking business We are far from believing in a vast, sinister 'money power'. supervision, we think our spread out among various "offices:" and a second objection based entirely With permitted small capitalization under will spring up for on a question of policy and the fear that, however conservative and proper community wealth and prowess is such that a bank spot in this country such a course may be from the standpoint of good banking, it is against intimate service, sustained by popular regard, in every public policy in that some of the large banks in the chief money centres might which needs or might to have a bank." eventually extend over the country to the injury and possible extinction "Barron's Weekly," Boston. of the small p.ivately owned banks. Mr. Barren is also President of the "Wall Street Journal." us will share Let us look at these two objections for just one moment. First, as to the "The question is a highly interesting one, and most of merger of twenty-five objection that it is unconservative banking. Experience answers this ,Andrew J.. Frame's well grounded distrust of a wing of the First immediately by pointing out that branch banking has existed for years, banks in Southern California, all under the protecting people this not only in foreign countries and in Canada, but right here in our own National Bank of Los Angeles. For the needs of the American country, and even the Federal Reserve Act gives the National banks the merger looks uncommonly like a step in the wrong direction." privilege of opening branches in foreign countries and a number of such The "Manufacturers Record." Baltimore. and the time to branches have been opened up. Even the most rabid objector to branch "There is a new snake crawling in the financial domain national banks is banking cannot possibly assert that the banks Which are to-day operating scotch it and paralyze it is now. In branch banking by insolence of lawlessness, such branches are not in general strong, conservative banks and well manthe seed or arrogance, the promise of tyranny, the the less developed com- aged, and if they can properly supervise branches in Europe and South a conspiracy for centralization and the yoking of financiers." The editor America there can be no difficulty in supervising branches within their munities to the juggernauts of metropolitan independent banking own city. In other words, there can be no objection on the score of unpleads for "that intimate personal knowledge" under conservatism or of danger to depositors, customers or stockholders of the which is so essential to our greatest progress. bank in question, but the objection must be limited to the question of REMEDY. public policy. quotations except to say, the true remedy lies in Time forbids further On this ground of public policy the objectors claim with loud shouts and Special legislation in favor cutting out the cancer from State and nation. banking-will be that the large clearly un-American and clamor that the result of a policy of branch of the rich as against the progressive many is in the great money centres of the country will establish branches of constitutional liberty. Let us not banks directly antagonistic to the spirit privately owned bank. This "grab all, lose all" error. thraughout the land and drive out the small dry up the streams of progress through a mistaken to establish branches everyseduced into political argument presupposes an unlimited power seems impossible that our statesmen can be It where. Such a course is not advocated by the National Bank Division. destructive fallacies. as well as economic suicide through endorsing such of our best financiers and most thoughtful abounds, may we not well exclaim, nor would it have the approval In this land where great prosperity men. Rats under the Stars and Stripes"? Our only dark clouds "Thank God we live The National banks are asking only for the same right that the The object lessons emanate from the preacher of the gospel of discontent. the power confined to the decade in the Old World, banks have and are perfectly content to have of monopoly,arrogance and oppression of the past had the pawer or the be superseded by any city in which they arc located. In such cases if they without should warn us that American freedom should not desire to drive the small bank out of business, they could do It is a calamity to any city. State or nation. to exist oligarchy. Branch banking branches. If such a power or desire did exist, it is just as likely as in those of banks President of the National Exchange in the minds of the management of the large State Address of Waldo Newcomer, all their the National banks. Have the State banks in this country with Bank. Baltimore, Md. have branches driven the small banks out of existence? They have or they for mo to use all of even the limited time at my for assuming that It will not be necessary it requires not. If they have not, what possible reason is there -day, for, when a cause is that of justice and right, National banks disposat•to how would the sustain it. If the decision National banks would do no? If they have, very few arguments and very little oratory to the resolution passed at the partisan vote, we know that the change the situation? I have not overlooked of this question were to be decided by a in Kansas City by a divided vote, when the Association went convention the National Banks by an overwhelming majority, State Banks outnumber any form. In the ftrst place, the granting to National on record as opposed to brancn banking in and they can by force of might refuse to sanction of the body;in the second place, enjoy and a debate on the that was by no means a unanimous opinion Banks of the privilege which many of them that the resolution does not prevent might does not make right, and I conditions have so changed since question would be a waste of time. But not and cannot have this effect. Branch banks of the members of the American branch banking. It does have•enough confidence in the fairness exist and are multiplying. It merely prevents the Association from taking Association to believe that the average man in it wants to do active part in securing to its National bank members the same rights as are Bankees convinced that a thing is right and fair what is right and, provided he is the State bank members. e, he will vote for it and that that average enjoyed by to an and at the same time conservativ It seems to me, therefore, that the question narrows itself down vote and control the action of this of this Assoman is numerous enough to carry the extremely simple proposition of plain honesty. It is the duty members and it must Convention. the interests of all classes of its National Bank Act it has been assumed ciation to protect Ever since the inception of the question. no power to establish branches. It now face this and believed that a National Bank had believe that branch banking is conservative and safe under limited If you into any technical or legal discussion as strongly a Is not my purpose to-day to enter conditions. it is your absolute duty to get back of and support seVe:al locations or whether an "office" is that right to National banks, which to whether "a locat'on" means of ordinary move to grant under those conditions to a very simple proposition on the other will put them on a parity with your State bank members. If. a branch, but to confine myself as it stood honesty and fair, play. hand, you believe that the Kansas City resolution is still correct banking in all shapes and under all ces is bad banking, then If the Convention feels that branch app:ove and that all branch banking under all circumstan tive and bad banking, then it should not conditions is unconserva 128 BANKERS' CONVENTION. you must not only refuse to support the National banks in what they believe Is it fair to have the thirty-two States of the Union granting a privilege to be their rights but must immediately demand that every member bank, to State banks and denying, in those States (because whether State or National, which to-day has any branches or offices that is the subject of other the resolution) precisely the same privilege? than its main office must forthwith close those branches and offices or I do not believe, in fairness, that the immediately resign from membership in this Association, as doing American Bankers Association can an unconservative business not approved and supported by the American Bank- so go on record. I thank you. Mr. West (Illinois):—On behalf of 140 State and national ers' Association. There is no alternative; there is no other horn banks in the to the city of Chicago and the County of Cook, and as a stockholder and director dilemma; there is no middle ground. in national and State banks in Chicago and down-State, I speak for the Mr. Jeffries (Missouri): Mr. President, Ladles and Gentlemen: I resolution and I second the motion to adopt the resolution. only have five minutes in which to make the few remarks that I shall Mr. Watts (St. Louis):—Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen: For make, and I want to say that Mr. Newcomer was entirely fair in his position. The opponents of branch banks accept the challenge which more than a quarter of a century I have taken part more or less actively in the affairs of the American Bankers Association and he has made in the statement that they are either right or wrong. never until I came If the branch banking system is right, let it be extended to every State to this convention have I been accused of being a trouble maker. Because. Mr. President and gentlemen, in he study of the in the Union. If it is wrong, let the American Bankers Association situation as it exists in go one ofthe larger cities of this country,I concluded that it was quite necessary on record as opposing the system anywhere and everywhere. The American people, as a nation, and from a national standpoint, to find some way of carrying the banking service throughout the city in have always stood opposed to the branch banking system. They have, which we were located—I was seeking some indirect way and in doing in such capacity, always favored and demanded the time-honored Amer- so, I thought I discovered a way which it might be done directly. The solution of that problem now is a Judicial ican system composed of locally owned and locally operated one and I believe the individual institution with which I am connected will do a service to all the banks of banks. And the question which is before the American Bankers Association the country if theyfinally determine what the rights ofthe national banks are. This subject has brought out some interesting to-day will present itself in the political situation of this country before sidelights. I see here many months have passed away, as we shall see if further attempts be to-day St. Louis bankers who have never seen a bankers' convention held outside of the city of St. Louis. made to break down this individual system of banking, of forcing the It seems to me we should not decide upon this subject entering wedge in order that a revolution in the system might take place. in the limited time One of the most potent reasons for defeat of the measure in Congress at our disposal, because a subject decided wrong is never decided; however temperate and considerate our deliberations may be, this subject to extend the life of the Charter of the United States Bank, which eApired will never in 1836, was the right of the bank to establish branches in the various be settled until it is settled right, and if I were following in the Chair of the States of the Union. Senator Benton from Missouri, who for a period American Bankers Association for this and subsequent years, I think I of eight years led the fight against the institution, addressed the Senate, would keep this subject on the program. I think that it would tend to and in the course of his masterly argument may be found the following, keep the interest in this Association at the pitch which you have seen it which I believe, ladies and gentlemen, is applicable to the conditions in., to-day. I sincerely hope that my friend from St. Louis will be continuing, the United States, though practically one hundred years have passed in their interest, in the American Bankers Association. away. Ile said: My friend the astute lawyet from St. Louis—and I would not "The Charter gives the bank the privilege to ertablish branches in have told that he was an astute lam yet if he hadn't told you himself by different States without their consent and in defiance of their resistance. addressing you as the Bar Association—I hope his interest may be a continuing No one can deny the degrading and injurious tendency of this provilege, one. I hope the gentleman who seconded the resolution. who, I understand, is monopolistic in its character. It is the interrogation of the sovereignty an attorney-at-lhw, I hope that his interest may,be a continuing one. of the State; it tramples upon her laws, opens her Government to the But, gentlemen, this subject so far as the American Bankers Association attacks of centralism. It impairs the property of her citizens and fastens is concerned, must be settled by the American bankers, however this vote a vampire upon her bosom to suck out her gold and silver. may be to-day—and I daresay the vote will be favorable to this particular "My friends, what was true of a nation is now true not only of the nation resolution. But the question will not be settled then, gentlemen. but also as to each and every financial and industrial centre." It seems to me in this discussion there is one factor that has been overThe Constitution of the United States makes no reference to banks, looked, a factor which is too often overlooked in discussions in this country; but my position is this: Shall we now because a few States have chosen that is, the ultimate consumer, that is, the man who uses bank service. to disregard this long established and closely guarded policy of the people, I would like to ask if there is a man within the sound of my voice, if there ask Congress for the right to permit National banks to do violence to the is a citizen of the city of New York, who would say that the consumer of traditions of our country as regards this branch banking system? A bank service would not be served better through the medium of additional few other States may follow those already offending. offices, or service stations, on the part of your great banks in this city, as My fellow-citizens, until the whole nation, speaking through its reprecompared with any other form of service? sentatives in Congress, degree otherwise by general law, the policy should I ask that question of the bankers of the city of Cleveland, or Detroit, stand inviolate. or the bankers of other cities. Rather than commit an invasion of fundamentals, would it not be I may say in conclusion, Mr. President, that I hope at other conventions better, my fellow-citizens, to stand loyal to the precepts of the fathers of this Association to have the privilege of discussing this subject until it and spend our patriotic energies in prevailing upon offending States to may be settled in a manner that is sound and for the best interests of all the return to the altar of our country? people, and therefore for the best interests of the banking business of this country. RESOLUTION AGAINST BRANCH BANKING. Mr. Prince (Hartford): Mr. President, on behalf of our Connecticut I would like to offer a resloution which has been prepared for introduction banks and bankers, I want to add the second of the Association for the at this time. adoption of this resolution. "Resolved by the American Bankers Association that we view with alarm In order that my motion may not be misunderstood as that of usurping the establishment of branch banking in the United States and the the power of Connecticut banks and bankers, I want to say that two or attempt to permit and legalize branch banking; that we hereby express three weeks ago, realizing that this question of branch banking would be our disapproval of and opposition to branch banks in any form in our a very pertinent one and an important one for discussion at this convention, nation, a regularly called meeting was held at which this question was very care"Resolved, That we regard branch banking or the establishment of fully and thoroughly debated, and a resolution similar to the one which is additional offices by banks as detrimental to the best interest of the people now before us was practically unanimously adopted. of the United States. Branch banking is contrary to public policy, It therefore is not only my own personal privilege but my duty to second violates the basic principles of our Government and concentrates the the motion which is now before you. credit of the nation and the power of miney in the hands of a few." President McAdams: Me. Lonsdale, President of the National Bank I move the adoption of the resolution. Division. President McAdams: Without debate, the vote is upon the question: Mr. Lonsdale (St. Louis): The National Bank Division believe in Shall the resolution be considered by the convention? promptness of action with a due regard to all whom that action may affect. The motion was carried. I therefore desire, in order that this issue may be met squarely, to propose President McAdams: As there are 200 votes in support of the resolution an amendment to the resolution and that is, after the word "uniform," it is now before the Convention for discussion and action. that there be added: "by the State or national bank." Mr. Preston (Chattanooga. Tenn.): The question of branch banking It is proper that a fair-minded discussion be brought before this, the banking parliament of the nation, and the National Bank Division have asked is such a large one, we are very apt to drift from the real subject. I agree with my distinguished friend from Wisconsin in most of what for equality for that great American privilege, and therefore I offer that . he has said. He is often right, but whether right or wrong, we will all amendment to the resolution. admit that he is very vigorous. I am opposed to branch banking in any Mr. Jeffries: I am willing to accept Mr. Lonsdale's amendment. President McAdams: Mr. Lonsdale moves an amendment to the resoform that will destroy the independent banks of this country. But is it fair and right to permit one class of banks a privilege and deny lution proposed by Mr. Jeffries, and the amendment, as I understand, is that to another class? For instance, in the city of Detroit, according to accepted by Mr. Jeffries, the original mover, making the first part of the the Comptroller's figures, there are 185 banking houses or banking points resolution read as follows: "Resolved, by the Ame:ican Bankers Association, that we view with in that great city. One hundred and eighty-two of them are represented by State banks and their branches, and only three by national banks. alarm the establishment of branch banking in the United States, and the fairness,fail to grant,or fail to endorse the proposition attempt to permit and legalize branch banking; that we hereby express our Can you,in a spirit of granting these national banks precisely the same privilege as the State banks? disapproval of and opposition to branch banking in any form by State or As Chairman of the Executive Committee of the National Bank Division, national banks In our nation." The amendment is now before you for consideration. I have had an opportunity to bear this question discussed, and I think it Mr. Bonynge (Los Angeles, Calif.): Mr. President and Members of only fair at this time that I read to you this declaration upon this in the convention in California. I will only read one paragraph. This, I think, the American Bankers Association: It seems to us that the question clearly defines the position of that Association, as expressed in its organized that is now before the house is one that has passed beyond the jurisdiction of this organization. It seems t me that it is a question that can be capacity. "Therefore be it Resolved, That the National Bank Division of the controlled only by the individual State legislatures. It seems to me that Association requests the Congress of the United States the motions before the house, while they may give you a certain gratificaAmerican Bankers to so amend the National Bank Act as to permit the national banks to tion to express your feelings, are totally inadequate to do you any good. maintain and operate branches within the corporate limits of the cities in What are you going to get from it? Is the Legislature of the State of which the head offices of such banks are located; to be confined, however, New York or the State of California or of any other State, which perto States in which State-chartered institutions are authorized to have mits branch banking, going to be influenced by this resolution here? Cries of "Yes." branches." Mr. Bonynge: No, they won't in California. It has taken too firm That, I believe, ladies and gentlemen, covers the subject before us. Some one asked Abraham Lincoln what he thought of it. His reply was a hold there and it is too popular. Now, gentlemen, I don't believe personally in branch banking. While that the farmers were no better and no worse than other people. The same impulses that moved others, move them. I believe that that applies to I am President of a National bank that is operacing tnree agencies under the national banks of this country. They are no better and no worse than the written consent of the Comptroller of the Currency, I want to say that I am still not in favor of branch banking. other banks, and the same impulses that move others, move them. BANKING SECTION. It was only under the pressure of the State banks surrounding us with a ring of branches all around us and taking-our business from us, that we felt compelled to take that course. I can see the possible menace of the concentration of capital in a few hands if branch banking became a national affair, but I do not see the same menace if that branch banking is kept down to the States and to such States as want it. I have prepared here a resolution which, if I am in order, at the proper tihie I will offer. I will read it to you, if I may. I will offer it as a substitute to the motion and the amendment. This resolution, I belleve1 will suit a great many people who would otherwise be opposed to branch banking. It reads: "Whereas, A number of the States either allow( or have provided by legislation for the maintenance of branches by their own chartered banks. and "IVhereas. It is now being contended that the present National Banking Laws permit toe operation of branches by national banks." The best of lawyers differ on this question, but you must remember that the most important question that was ever decided by the Supreme Court of the United States was decided by seven votes—you all know what that is. "Whereas. If such contention should be sustained it might result in the establishment by national banks of branches, not only in States where branch banking is permitted by the laws of such States, but also in States that do not permit the operation of branches by their own State banks; or even further, it might be maintained that national banks have the right to establish branches not only in their own but in any number of States." Many of you here are aware that the State of New Jersey has two branch national banks operating in the city of Philadelphia for over forty years, and it has never been interfered with. I have that from the authority of the Comptroller of the Currency. "Therefore, The American Bankers Association in convention assembled hereby resolves, first, we acknowledge the right of every State to regulate the business of banking as conducted by their own State banks through such laws as they may see fit to enact." I want to know: Is there anyteing wrong about that? Does anybody challenge it? "Second, wherever the laws of any State provide for the operation of branches by their State banks, we believe that similar privileges should be provided for by Federal laws to enable national banks to compete on equal terms with the State banks." Gentlemen, is that fair or not? "Third, we are opposed to any law or construction of a law that would permit national banks to establish branches in any State where branch banking is not authorized by the laws of that State. "Fourth, we are opposed to the establishment by any bank, either State or national, of branches in any other than their home, State." I move the ad vption of those resoltions as a substitute to the motion and the amendment. President McAdams: Does the substitute meet with a second? President McAdams: The question is now upon the adoption of the substitute, Is there any discussion? Mr. Daniel F. Gina (Pennsylvania): In rising to address this convention, the uppermost thought in my mind is to conclude by offering a motion to lay this substitute on the table. My purpose in discussing the question is that it evades an issue which should have a free discussion before the members of this Association. It has been offered by the advocates of the resolution against bank btanthes, that a monopoly is created and this monopoly endangers the public interest and the public welfare. That argument has not been met by any of the advocates of national bank branches. We have alleged that in so much as an evil has been committed by State banks, that two evils are bettet than one, and for that reason they wish to invade the same field and absoro banks in their respective communities. It has been argued by the first speaker for national branches that the Federal Reserve Act does permit branches for national banks in foreign cities or foreign countries. In that they have our good wishes and Godspeed for then they do us no injury. Beneath the queston there is one question, of who shall make the money in the banking business. Whether it is the large bank of the big city, or the small bank, is but a trivial and insignificant question con.pared to the Influence that it has on the public interest and the punlie policy. I am reminded in the dis..ussion by the celebrated English talket this morning, when he brought home to you one telling fact, that in the United Kingdom there were only thirty-nine banks and nine thousand branches. Do you believe that thete is a relation between credit and the power centralised In government? In that I must go back and remind you that during the time of the United States National Bank which expired by the veto of Andrew Jackson, he offered one argument which should live in the mind of every man whole going to vote on this question. lie was approached by Andrew Biddle after that legislation had passed both the House of Representatives and the United States Senate. And Andrew Biddle said to him, asking him to endorse the perpetuation of the United States National Bank. and the centralization of power. "Do you know what power this United States Bank has; do you know that It has branches in every State of the Union? Do you know that it has branches in every city of every State of the Union? Do you know that it can name the Governor of any State in the Union? Do you know that it has power to name the next President of the United States?" And Andrew Jackson, stern advocate of the puhlic interest that he was, said, "If the United States Bank has all the power that you claim it has, then It has more power than anything in a free country ought to have and by the living eternal it shall be destroyed.' So he vetoed it and the centralization of power went away from the national banks. To-day it is revived in the absorption of the State banks in the different States and you see the evil influence where thirty-ni ne bank,in the Kingdom of Great Britain have the power over nine thousand banks in the same Kingdom. President McAdams. It Is moved and seconded that the substitute motion be laid on the table. That cnotion is not debatable. Member. I rise to a point of order. By laying the sub,titute upon the table you lay the whole question upon the table, and throw the question berme the house. Pr(sident McAdams: The gentleman 's entirely correct. The question Is upon laying the substitute upon the table All in favor will say "aye," 129 opposed "no." The motion is lost and the question is now upon the substitute as offered by the gentleman from California. Mr.Latta (Alinneapolis): Mr.Chairman, I had no Intention of intruding upon the time of this convention, but I feel that in one point at least it is my duty to express what I know by natural knowledge as to the working of a certain kind of branch banking. For many years I lived in the city of Detroit. The city of Detroit has, as has been frequently mentioned here, a large number of so-called branch offices, conducted by State banks. The State banking law of the State of Michigan permits those branches. Thore branches were established many years ago in many instances, where so fat as I know the law gave no permission and on the othet hand expressed no dissent. What legislation has occurred since I am not familiar with, but I know those branches and continue. The gentleman who last spoke raised the question as to the real merits'. of the situation, meaning. I believe, the service to the public. There are many within the sound of my voice who, I ant sure, would second what I say in stating that in the city of Detroit the best banking service is available to every citizen, and I have never heard one objection in any way, shape or form to branch banking as conducted in the city of Detroit, but what have you got? You have there three national banks of this great system of ours, only three in the city of Detroit with a million people, one of the largest industrial cities in the United States, where the interests of thousands and thousands of workingmen are in the savings which they put into the banks. Those national banks are not permitted to serve in the same way that the State banks are. Why should they not be, particularly when we know that the service that has been conducted by the State banks has been safe, sound and satisfactory? Gentlemen, I live in the city of Minneapolis where we have already established two additional offices of our own bank. There has not been the slightest objection and we believe that we are serving the interests of the public. We have not the slightest desire, we are absolutely opposed (and I think I voice the sentLeent of every national banker in the city of Minneapolis and probably in the State of Minnesota) to branch banking as extended beyond the corporate limits of the city, but we do believe that we are sound in being able to offer to our customers over on another street or some blocks away the facilities which they find they cannot readily avail themselves of if they are compelled to go to the main office. The peaking question of automooiles to-day, while It is a little thing to bring before this convention, is a menace to the business of the downtown banks. Many of our customers are not able to get into our banks without leaving their cars at a long distance and bringing their money through the streets in danger of being held up. Gentlemen, I don't believe that sound banking for one moment will ever be interfered with by permitting national banks to have additional offices in their own cities, but I do not believe in extending those facilities beyond that city. President McAdams: Just one second, gentlemen, the time has come for closing the debate. I will recognize one more speaker on each side. Mr. Pineh'll (Mankato, Minn.): I believe that the delegates thoroughly understand this question and I rise to move the previous question. President McAdams: The motion is carried. The question now is upon the substitute as offered by Mr. Bonynge. The "no's" have it and the substitute is lost. The question is now upon the amendment as offered by Mr. Lonsdale and accepted by Mr. Jeffries to the original motion. Are you ready to vote upon the amendment? Mr. Wm. Alden Smith (Michigan): I want to say one word about this resolution and it will only take a moment. I live in a city of 150,000 people. Fifty thousand accounts number the accounts in the bank of which I am President. We have twelve branches and have carried community service into every one of those twelve branches, and while most of the banks in many of the States were losing deposits in the trying period through which we have just passed, our institution augmented its deposits nearly one hundred fold. We take our service to the community, to the laborer in the vicinity of his factory, and from Jan. 1 to Sept. 1 our little bank at Grand Rapids opened over 8,000 new accounts among the laborers and the humbler citizens who believe in thrift, but who had to have these privileges carried to their immediate community. I voted for the Federal Reserve Law. I represented our State in the Senate at that time. I voted for every sound principle that has suggested itself during a career of upwards of 25 yeast*, but I say to you that if you believe in the thrift of which this convention has over and over again asserted itself, if you believe in the thrift of the individual citiezn as the proper basis for good, constitutional, safe citizenship, then I assure you you are taking a step to-day which may cause you some embarrassment. Under our laws we have examinations the equal of the national examinations, and our State banking system has no peer, either in the Federal or other State fields. You know and I know that when the Federal Reserve Bank Act was passed, they had to threaten the rational banks to get them to become members. Their charters were to be forfeited, but the State banks, with patriotic valor and sound judgment, have augmented the Federal system voluntarly. You are determined to outlaw branch banking. Be very careful that you don't outlaw sound, conservative thr:ft banking. President McAdams: Gentlemen, the time for the vote has come. I think we all agree that while all of us would like to have something to say upon this question, that both sides have had an opportunity to fairly present their views. The vote is now upon the amendment as offered by Col. Lonsdale, and accepted by Mr. Jeffries, to the original motion. I will read the motion as amended: "Resolved, by the American Bankers Association, that we view with alarm the establishment of branch banking in the United Statos and the attempt to permit and legalize branch banking; that we hereby express our disapproval of and opposition to branch banking in any form by State or national banks In our nation. "Resolved, that we regard branch banking or the establishment of additional offices by banks, as detrimental to the best interests of the people of the United States. Branch banking is contrary to public policy, violates the basic principles of our Government and concentrates the credits of the nation and the power of money in the hands of a few." All in favor of adopting the motion as amended will vote "aye";opposed "no." The "ayes" have it and the motion as amended Is now before you. I would ask, of course, gentlemen, that only those who are regular delegates from their respective banks will vote, and no bank is entitled to more than one vote. All in favor of the motion as amended will vote "aye"; opposed "no..' The motion prevails. 130 BANKERS' CONVENTION. Report of Committee of Five on Par Collections, by Charles deB. Claiborne, Vice-President Whitney Central Nat. Bank, New Orleans. Mr. Chas. deB. Claiborne: Mr. Chairman and Members of the A. B. A.: Your Committee of Five recommends the endorsement of the McFadden Bill as amended by your Committee. Individually members of your Committee have attended a large number of bankers' conventions. We have discussed this subject from every angle. We have studied carefully the fundamentals and principles as laid down by the Supreme Court of the United States, as well as the Federal decision in the Atlanta case and that of San Francisco. We believe that the best and wisest course, therefore, would be the endorsement of that McFadden Bill which makes the charge optional on the part of the bank. • The McFadden Bill as amended simply carries into effect Section 13 of the Act, but omits the last few lines of that Section, and instead of the words "but no charge shall be made against the Federal Reserve" we have added that whenever a charge shall be made, in that event the Federal Reserve Bank shall charge back that charge to the depositing bank; but the charge is optional. Your Committee alFo suggests the continuation of the Committee of Five until the passage of that bill, if you so approve it. Report of Membership Committee, by Harry J. Haas, Vice-President First National Bank, Philadelphia. Mr. Harry J. Haas: Mr. Chairman, and members of the American Bankers Association, Ladies and Gentlemen: At the Los Angeles Convention, at the last meeting of the Executive Council, Mr. McAdams made a very strong plea for the Council to assist the Membership Committee in their efforts for this year. The convention was held the early part of October and it was the middle of October before we returned to our homes and it was the last of November before we could get started on a membership campaign. We would like to have the country organized into districts or States and counties. We would like to have had a man in each State in charge of his State and a man in each county in charge of his county, so that not a single bank in the United States would be ignorant of the activities of the American Bankers Association, and he would be solicited to become a member. But the constitution provides that if a bank does not pay its dues within thirty days. that it only enjoys the privileges of the Association: and if they do not pay their dues within ninety days, they forfeit their membership and have no privileges in the Association; and should they become members after that period, after having been a member and delinquent in their dues, they must pay their dues back to the close of the last fiscal year. Werealized that if you asked the bank to pay dues on, say. January 1st back to August 31st, we would have a difficult time. They would prefer to wait; if they were delinquent banks, they would have to pay their arrears, and if they were not a member or had not been a member, they cauld come in the second six months on payment of six months dues. So, under the circumstances, we felt the best thing we could do was to get busy right away, and we o:ganized the members of the Executive Council, the efficers and members of the Executive Committees of divisions and sections, tne State Secretaries, with tne help of the official force at the New York office of the Association. At the start of the campaign we had 4,255 delinquent banks or a loss in membership. including the failed banks, merged banks and delinquent banks, of 4,255. This was 18% of the total membership of the Association. Eighteen per cent may seem like a large percentage, but it was no larger than similar organizations in this country, and we were faced with conditions in the agricultural sections which were unfavorable. For instance, a man from Iowa. Kansas. or Nebraska, whose dues were $20,if he were asked to pay $20 to the American Bankers Association, figured at that time that $20 was 80 bushels of corn, and he could not see the advisability of paying 80 bushels of corn for his membership in the Association. If those agricultural conditions bad been different and he would have had to pay 20 bushels of corn, no doubt we would have had greater success in our efforts In the agricultural districts. We are happy to report that the eighteen per cent decrease was reduced to one and four-tenths per cent. We not only had the agricultural conditions, but, unlike other organizations, we were required to raise the dues of the Association, so considering the increase in dues, and the agricultural conditions, we felt that we had a pretty hard job to tackle. The result on August 31 showed an increase of membership of thirty-four hundred and cost one the total dues received for these members being $76,870 on, a a of seventy-two cents per member, or three and two-tenths per cent of the dues received. In this work I would like to mention the gentlemen who have participated In it and have given so generously of their time and effort, but that would mean the reading off of the entire list of the rnembe.s of the Executive Council officers and divisions, sections executive committee, and the officials at New York. But the detailed record of the Membership Committee's report will be published. You can analyze that and find the States where they have shown large increases and you know that the members of these committees in those States have been doing some work. Thera is still some work to be done. We have 10,324 non-members in this country. We can't all be generals, we can't all be colonels, or majors or captains or even lieutenants; we have to have some privates, but we can all be volunteers. and I hope that every man in this hall will volunteer to be a committee of one and when he goes back home, if he will make it his business to get in touch with the Secretary at New York, he will very gladly give him a list of the non-members in his county, and if he will see those non-members. I am sure that when another year has passed around that we will have a much larger membership than we had last year. mediums—our own journal and the daily newspapers to which we give out news releases from time to time. For your information in regard to the work of the journal of the year I would briefly report that we received them subscriptions during the year $44,428 00 and from advertising $40,298 00, making total receipts, including some miscellaneous receipts, of $95,291 00. Of that sum we returned to the Association 322.959 00. This, you bankers might quickly reckon, would be equivalent to a 6% earning power cn something like $350,000. If we were to capitalize that earning power, which as business men we may perhaps be entitled to do. it would show an increase in the earning power of the journal during the past year, on a capitalization of about $250,000, or an increased value, if you please to put it that way, for the journal of a quarter of a milion dollars through the program of improvement and expansion that we have undertaken. We believe that we have taken but a step forward in the improvement of the journal and in its devotion to your service. We have tried to be economical and careful in all the work of improvement that we have undertaken, but, thanks to the liberal attitude of the officers of the Association and the Executive Council, we hope during the year following (whoever may be the commttee in charge) to improve still further both the content and the appearance and the powers of service of that already useful paper. The typographical appearance we have improved, but we hope to add to it more by illustrating it more and by making it more graphic and more attractive. Already the newspapers and magazines of the country have taken cognizance of the improvement that has been made in our journal and it is being very broadly quoted and somewhat more liberally subscribed for than ever before. A considerable number of our banks have found it worth while to subscribe for extra copies of the journal. to send not only to members of their staff but to their important clients who are interested in keeping up-to-date with banking and business affairs as we have presented them through our pages. We believe that the bankers of to-day are realizing more and more that in order to do well,they must know more,they must keep abreast of banking thought and keep abreast of business thought, if they are to realize the full possibilities of their own institutional pow_ers of service. So we have dedicated the pages of our journal to that end and hope that is rendering a service which you will value. We have also, by reason of that enlarged service, made it more attractive to advertisers, and a constantly increasing volume of business is corning to its pages, without interfering or competing with other banking journals or other mediums which are occupying something of the same field. It is our purpose to make the journal a clearing house not only of Association activties, but of banking and business thought, an interpreter of business conditions through those who think intelligently and clearly on those subjects and are able to transmit that thought for the benefit of others. So, to that end we will use a larger proportion of the appropriation that has been allotted If the plans that have already been formulated are carried out), to securing articles from representative interpreters of thought and from those who are qualified to present business problems in a serviceable and useful way for you. If we could only inspire the banking community with the intellectual ambition to know more accurately, to have facts instead of guesses at their disposal, to be able to review the business world clearly and sanely and accurately, as a part of the service we are rendering, we would feel that our efforts had been more than worth while, for perhaps never before in the history of the world, or our own immediate world, has the premium upon clear thinking been so great or has it been so necessary that we should know. So we hope to be able to dedicate the journal to that ideal more and more effectively and to make it more and more a serviceable agent to improve banking, to better business, to greater prosperity, and I hope to better citizenship. Another branch of the work of the Public Relations Commission is that devoted to publicity. Through our Committee's work and the small organization which we have, we release to the public from time to time, the findings of our three great Commissions on Agriculture and Commerce and Economic Policy, and also the important Association activities as they may occur from time to time. We have been able to give to the public, through the daily press, accurate reports of Association proceedings, interpretations of Association Comm. don findings, and illuminating economic facts from time to time, which have received a very cordial reception on the part of the daily newspapers. If we were to reckon in terms of dollars the return we have received from these news releases and their broad acceptance we would show a substantial sum. However, I hope the day will come when we don't reckon the returns in such a way entirely, because in time this work must have far-reaching value to the banking business and to all American business. So we are striving to expand from time to time the activities of that branch of our service to the ends that the journalistic and periodical world may look to us as an authoritative expression of banking and bush'es thought from whom they can at any time secure valuable material, informative and useful articles and real interpretation of economic conditions. The Executive Council have granted us a somewhat larger appropriation for that work during the next year and I hope that a constantly expanding usefulness may attend that service whoever may have it in charge, and that we may realize that we have a great opportunity there to help guide the thought, to help improve the status of the Association and to help the business community with informative and useful facts for their immediate use. We will be delighted at any time to have suggestions from any of our members, either as to the improvement of the journal or as to news matter which we can give to local papers throughout the country which they might use profitably. We are rather feeling our way in this work and we know that if the Association members as individuals or in State associations will take cognizance of the splendid opportunity which this medium affords them and the machinery which we have already set up. that we can move on to a constantly expanding usefulness and a greater, greater service. Report of the Public Relations Commission, by Francis Report of Economic Policy Commission, M. A. H. Sisson of New York—The A. B. A. Journal. Traylor, Chairman; Walter Lichtenstein, Secretary. Mr. Francis H. Sisson: Mr. President and Members of the American Bankers Association, Ladies and Gentlemen: The Public Relations Commission is a commission of service and not of creative effort. And therefore I can very simply and briefly present a record of the year's work. Our business is not creative in itself but to transmit to the public the creative work of others, and through that activity we have the use of two The Economic Policy Commission has held two meetings, one in New York on February 17, which was attended by eight members out of a total membership of twelve. The second, at which eight members were aiso present, was held at White Sulphur Springs on May 8. In addition, the Commission has considered, by means of correspondence between members, BANKING SECTION. many special problems referred to it. It offers at this time the following report, summarizing and supplementing its previous reports. 131 Conclusion. The Commission calls attention to articles prepared under its general direction by its economist, and published in various numbers of the "JournGovernment and Legislation. The Commission makes note of the fact that it has not changed its opinion al" of the American Bankers Association. These articles have been copied in regard to the Soldiers' Bonus Bill. It believes firmly that the National by numerous newspapers and magazines: especially the investigation in Government should do everything possible to relieve the soldiers who are regard to our international balances has been of importance. The Commission likewise, continuing the work of Mr. John S. Drum of suffering from disabilities incurred in the service, but it does not approve the giving of a bonus to all the soldiers regardless of their present condition. last year, has published an investigation of the economic situation in the By the appointment of the President of the Association, the Chairman country, which was prepared by its secretary. The Commission believes and Secretary of the Commission were made members of a special committee that, while it may be questionable whether this work should be continued in which has been actively co-operating with the President of the American so elaborate a form as that in which it has been carried on, nevertheless Farm Bureau Federation and the executive officers of other similar organ- scientific investigation conducted under the direction of a responsible body izations interested in legislation affecting facilities for agricultural credit. of the American Bankers Association makes the pronouncements based The Commission congratulates the country upon the breadth of vision and upon such research more valuable and authoritative than if they were the soundness of judgment which has characte:ized the attitude of the merely haphazard expressions of opinion. majority of the leaders in agricultural activity with respect to the fundamental problems confronting that industry. The Commission believes that the steady improvement In agricultural conditions is a reflection of Remarks of Myron T. Herrick, U. S. Ambassador to France and Former President American increased demands for the farmer's products resulting from the re-employment of labor in the United States, thereby proving the correctness of the Bankers Association. position of those who have contended that the demoralization in prices President McAdams: In 1900 there presided over the American Bankers of farm products was due not so much to a lack of credit as to a lack of Association, a banker from Ohio, who has since that time, attained world markets. Assuming that this contention is measurably correct, tne Comprminence. Ambassador Herrick will sail to-morrow for Paris and I am mission would oppose the hasty enactment of any ill-advised credit schemes. sure that we will be glad at least ofseeing him and having him say "goodbye" which, while possibly resulting in a temporary, artificial stimulation of to us. Ambassador Herrick. agricultural prices, would in the end react seriously on the entire industry. Ambassador Myron T. Herrick: Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen. The Commission again reiterates the stand which it has made public Fellow -members of the American Bankers Association: After many years on several occasions in regard to tax-exempt securities. It advocates a I assure you it is a privilege to stand for a moment before you, if for no constitutional amendment permitting the taxation of securities issued by other purpose than to say "good morning" and to greet you and to exFederal Government, the States, municipalities, other political sub-divis- press my friendship and to say "goodbye." ions, or quasi-public corporations. It is opposed to the feature in the presI shall carry to my post the picture of this splendid audience this morning. ent Income Tax Law which exempts from taxation $.300 income annually for I assure you my friends that you are not in the least conscious yourfor moneys deposited in building and loan associations. This clause selves how these years of turmoil and trouble growing out of the war have in the present law works a great hardship on all banks and makes it impossi- finally resulted in giving not only to your own country but to the people ble for them to compete on an even basis with these associations which do abroad, the confidence in the business men, the economists and the not offer to their depositors the safeguards and securities which banks are bankers of the world. compelled to furnish. For I believe, firmly, that the problem which we have tried to solve Transportation. and which seemed in the crisis, in the intense moment in the war, beyond The Commission welcomes the end of the present strike of the shopmen the solution of the human brain, that that solution now has come to you. on the railroads, but recognizes that a further adjustment between the cost We have spoken of yesterday. We have quarreled over the past. We of railroad transportation and other expenses of production is necessary. know the mistakes of our own country only too well in these years. We It still believes that the present high wages of railroad employees must be are not out of this this, Mr. President, not because we did not know, but readjusted and that such readjustment with accompanying reduction ofrates because we fumbled in these years. But it is to-morrow of which we speak and I return to my post with all will pave the way toward greater business activity. The processes of our economic life cannot proceed in an orderly fashion when wages of labor that is ahead, with a feeling that back here the Oroblem now reaches the prices of commodities are seriously out of adjustment, and the interest banker and business man of the re-organization of this broken world,for and of labor in a proper adjustment should be just as keen as that of the pro- we cannot build ideals upon anything but a firm financial and commercial foundation. ducer and manufacturer. It is going to be solved in the next year. I am not one of those without The Commission desires to express its belief in the value, for the best development of trade and commerce, both domestic and foreign, of a com- hope and it is going to be solved by the level-headed, steady business man prehensive transportation system in which should be included not only the and banker of these different countries, who meet calmly, without political railroads but also the canals and highways, particularly the plan for a barge prejudice to consider as you consider on your bank boards, the hard, praccanal connecting the Great Lakes, the Ohio and the Mississippi, and a canal tical questions of the day. That is where the settlement is going to come in my opinion and the world turns to you instinctively now. connecting the Great Lakes and the St. Lawrence. I didn't come before you to make a speech, but I came simply The Commission advocates the development and maintenance of a merto say this: chant marine, and recommends the repeal of those sections of our shipping My associates and friends, the people who are not emotional are the people who have expressed themselves once in a crisis in Jaws which make it impossible for American ship owners to compete on an this country when all equal basis with other countries. It believes that an American merchant our country seemed set on fire, swayed by political parties. It was the marine is not only vital to the commerce and industry of the country, but bankers who came together and forgot everything except the economic Is also a necessary adjunct to our naval forces in time of war. question and saved our country from financial disaster and ruin. So when we meet these problems of to-morrow, I am sure that when Industrial Conditions. you make your own decisions, when you decide how this reconstruction The Commission believes that with the passing of industrial unrest the will take place (and your President has well said that it cannot take place; country is in a fair way to resume normal business activities but at the same the balance cannot be redressed without America and America does not time regards with the greatest apprehension the continual recurrence of wish it to be done without her) when that time conies, I am sure that the strikes in fundamental industries and believes that plans should be care- one great practical problem will always be recognized by you outside of fully considered for a permanent method of settlement of questions which political party, national interest for the adjustment which is necessary for arise between capital and labor. In the case of those Industries, like trans- the world to go forward. portation and coal mining, upon which the very life of the nation depends, We are like a great express train on a railway, ready to move and carry It ought to be possible to devise means to adjust disputes without recourse the express, the freight of the world, but there are three or four bridges to industrial warfare. A sharp distinction should be made between the out and they have got to be put in and America has got to help to do it. right of workers to leave their employment whenever they desire to do so America is willing and is now making the plan and making the way. and their attempts to hinder others from working and taking the positions I beg your pardon for saying so much but when your President so kindly which they have left. The fact is that working men going on a strike do asked me to come here for a moment and face my old associates and friends, not regard themselves as having left the service of their employers, because I could not resist, but I go back, as I said in the beginning, with the feeling otherwise, there would not in the case of every strike appear the demand that assembled in this room this morning is the ability, the patriotism for reinstatment N:rithout loss of any of the privileges or rights acquired and the desire to make a plan together with other strong men who are outas the result of continued service with the corporation in question. side of the political influence, to make a strong reorganization plan that will carry us out of the difficulty and enable us, after the loss Tariff and Foreign Trade. of the millions The Commission calls attention to our international trade relations of men, enable the world to reap the fruits of that victory which we shall which are suffering from vari us causes. The delay in the rehabilitation very soon lose unless this is done. , It will be done, Mr. President, and I have high hope in the of Europe has made it impossible for our farmers to dispose of their profuture. We ducts at prices which will give them adequate return for their labor. The are realizing now that this is the only way that it can be accomplished. I thank you very much. Mr. President, and I bid you a very United States, however, has done little to relieve this situation. The affectionate Commission feels very strongly that our position as a creditor nation will goodbye. I ask you all to come over,(I see a great many of you over there.) make it increasingly necessary for us to accept payment from foreign coun- and spend a week end with me. tries to a large extent in the shape of goods, and that only in this manner Telegram from President Harding. will it be possible for us to maintain and develop our export trade which is so necessary if labor and capital in this country are to be fully employed. THE WHITE HOUSE, The Commission fears that Congress, in its desire to protect the country Washington, D. C., October 3 1922. Thomas /3. McAdams. President American Bankers Association, from the danger of so-called "dumping" may create a situation which ultiHotel Commodore, New York. mately will be contrary to our best interests. My dear Mr. McAdams—Public duties and personal cares seem Federal Reserve System and Currency. to have combined to render impossible once more my acceptance of the invitation The Commission again calls attention of bankers throughout the country to the annual gathering of the American Bankers Association. My reto the danger of the continued attacks made from various quarters upon grets are the more poignant, because I hoped to be able to say some few the Federal Reserve Board and the whole Federal Reserve System. The things to your members on this occasion. Commission believes that if bankers have confidence in the system, they I have so many times expressed my admiration and appreciation of the should say so, for the principle of keeping the system free from politics part which the banking interests played during and following the war. is of vast importance. Closely related to the attacks upon the Federal that I do not need to remind you of my sentiments in that regard. Rathei Reserve System are the attacks upon our r-esent currency system. Unless I wish to appeal to your great organization in behalf of my conviction that we wish to travel the road of Russia and the Central Empires, it behooves another, a more inclusive, and perhaps a more difficult opportunity of those'most directly in charge of the financial interests of the country to service is to-day presented to you. Ism repel the attacks and refute the arguments, no matter what the seurce To the patriotism, steadfastness and right thinking of its financial leadmay be, which would substitute for the present gold standard untried and ers, the country has owed very much in connection with financing the war, chimerical schemes. It is highly desirable that the people generally should and later in restoring stability, confidence and security throughout our understand the follicles involved in many of the plans that have been sug- economic structure. The banking community has always co-operated gested within the last few years. splendidly in dealing with these problems. But to-day our country. the BANKERS' CONVENTION. 132 world, all human kind, are demanding that this co-operation be extended to wider realms; to those social, moral, ethical problems which are crying for understanding attention. They cannot be denied; they grow increasingly insistent. They call for an application of the same spirit of wise and willing co-operation which is the very basis of the bank. I have often thought of the bank as first among modern institutions of social unification. On the basis of a complete confidence in its integrity and dims, it aggregates together in vast, available masses, the scattered bits of credit and resources which otherwise would be unavailable for great undertakings, and makes possible the huge producing organizations which characterize the modern industrial community. We have come to times which require a like aggregation of the social sense, the ethical ideals, the moral Inspirations and the best intelligence, in order to promote the true welfare of men individually and in communities. This I have come to regard as the most pressing requirement of our day: and to its accomplishment I invite the assistance of you men who have been foremost among social cooperators. The world is not given to rewarding those who serve it, with opportunities for ease and pleasure. Instead,on those who have been tested and found useful, it is wont to place yet greater burdens. To full share in these obligations I am now urgently inviting you. By experience, knowledge and alms, you bankers are pecuttarty equipped to render largest service in this wider sphere. It has long been my observation that the leadership of the banking forces in the local community is ever effective and devoted to community welfare; and the same helpful relationship must be maintained throughout the nation, and in the nation's outside relations. Therefore in recommitting our people to sane expenditures, to ways of economy and thrift, to the consideration of municipal and national probtems In that conscience which builds the temple of confidence, the banking forces must lead, and we must have the widest commitment to the prudence, the deliberate understanding, and the preference for useful service, which make for the security of our people as a whole. The banker in extending credits looks not alone to the schedule of his customer's tangible assets. He gives thought also to moral considerations, to those elements of character which constitute the most commanding of all securities. So he is concerned to help develop these qualities throughout his constituency. Every good citizen aspires to the same end, and therefore it is permissible to impose a special obligation on the bankers, organized and trained as they are in such affairs, to take a very special part in this work. There is everywhere a disposition to scrutinize, to question, to examine minutely into social and economic institutions: to interrogate methods of human integration and procedure which have been so long accepted as to have seemed axiomatic. We shall gain nothing by charging that this spirit proceeds from malevolence and testified a disordered state of mind. We ought to recognize that it largely represents sincere wish to improve conditions. History teaches that blind effort to obstruct such movements has often produced momentary disaster, but never prevented ultimate advance. The world Ls too old,and ought to be too wise, to resort to such tactics now. Rather, its best intelligence should be given to open-minded co-operation in every earnest project of inquiry and analysis which looks to the general betterment. Thus will its most capable waders help guide society away from pitfalls and dangers, while keeping it moving on the upward path. I count the men of your profession as among such leaders; and I know that whoever can effectively impress you with the full importance of the duty lam suggesting will find satisfaction in the prompt and eager response which will come to him. Most sincerely yours, WARREN G. HARDING. Greetings from Andrew W. Mellon, Secretary of the United States Treasury. Gentlemen, as I tell you, this Is an unexpected pleasure and I haven't the slightest intention of making a speech. I have only one very clear thought in my head, and that is to thank you, Mr. McAdams, and you. gentlemen and ladies,for your kindly reception. IfI were making a speech, there are one or two subjects that I might touch upon—one that was dealt with very fully by a gentleman yesterday under the title or text of "Branch Banking." A delicate subject, it seems to me. I haven't the slightest intention, nor would I have the bad taste, to tell you gentlemen and bankers whether or not you should adopt a branch banking system in this country, but I do say to the gentleman who spoke yesterday that I question his—what shall I call it'•—for telling us whether we should have a branch banking system in Canada or not. To that, gentlemen, if he is here present, I would apply to his criticisms of our Canadian banking system a word that is only used in diplomacy— Abracadabra. Let him look up his treasured dictionary. It is pronounced "Abracadabra"—a very excellent word. I would advise those of you who are not acquainted with it to look it up. That is my answer. I am not going to make a speech, Mr. McAdams; but take our Northwestern Provinces, Alberta: Saskatchewan and Manitoba. of which you have all doubtless heard—there we have an area some 800 miles in width by 200 or 400 miles north and south, fit for cultivation. We have in that district a very small population, under 2,000.000, and we have there nearly 1.300 branches of powerful banks, able and eager to supply to that community any banking facilities that they may require; and I may tell you that there is no banking district in the whole wide world where the agricultural community and the business community enjoys such admirable banking facilities as in those three provinces. It may interest you to know, as a direct bearing upon any criticism that may be leveled at our branch banking system (I am not talking about yours). that we continuously advanced to people of the Northwest of Canada, and particularly to the agricultural community, many millions in excess of the sum that they have honored us with deposit. Those deposits are accumulated in every hole and corner of Canada. In little hamlets and districts in Ontario, where for one reason or another the soil may be fertile but the opportunities for developing commercially and industrially are meagre, there the funds are accumulated and automatically they find their way out of the Northwest to produce—I almost said the best wheat in the world. Gentlemen, I am highly appreciative of the very cordial reception that you have given me to-day. Report of Committee on Resolutions. I. The Forty-eighth Annual Convention of the American Bankers Association, composed of upwards of eleven thousand delegates and guests. representing every part of the United States and every legitimate type of financial institution of the United States, met in the City of New York from Oct. 2 to 5 1922, to study the various problems confronting the nation, especially those affecting the financial interests of the country. As a brief statement of the conclusions reached from consideration of the addresses and discussions at the various sessions, we submit these resolutions and commend the opinions and recommendations herein expressed to the thoughtful attention of the Government and the people of the country. II. Legislation—Disapproval of Government Commissions. We continue to urge upon our Government the elimination of all unnecessary expenditures in order that taxes weighing heavily upon business may be still further reduced. We disapprove of the continued attempts to establish further Government commissions which tend more and more to hamper the industrial and commercial development of the country and in an unnecessary way increase the cost of doing business. For like reasons, we recommend the discontinuance of such existing commissions as expereince may prove unnecessary. We reiterate our position in regard to tax-exempt securities of any type, believing that it is highly undesirable that further tax-exemption should be authorized by the Federal Government of any of the political sub-divisions of the country. • President McAdams: I desire to read the following letter: "Office of the Secretary of the Treasury, Washington. "Please extend my greetings to the members of the American Bankers Association in convention in New York, and express to them my appreciation of the way in which they have worked together to bring the country through this difficult period of post-war adjustment. It has been the fixed policy of this Government since the war not only to balance its budget at the end of each fiscal year, but to provide for the gradual liquida- III. The Foreign Situation—President Urged To Hake Adfustments in tion and funding of the war debt. In order to avoid spectacular refunding Tariff Schedules, and To Grant Official Powers to Americas* Repreoperations, disturbing to the country, the Treasury has offered, at consentative on Reparations Commission. venient intervals during the last eighteen months, short term notes which We call attention again to the seriousness of the foreign situation, were used to retire Victory notes and other early maturing obligations. The response with which these offerings have met on the part of banks and the especially of Europe, which is affecting detrimentally our own conditions Investing public has been reassuring, both as regards the Treasury's plans and preventing even those industries in our country which are not defor the refunding of the early maturing debt and also as regards the sound- pendent upon foreign trade from recovering fully from the depression which otherwise would be rapidly disappearing. ness of financial conditions in the country at large. There is no possibility of a healthy and normal situation in this country "It leads me to believe that a foundation has been laid for an early and until the nations with whom we trade are able to pay us for what they healthful revival of business along normal lines. Import. As this can be done in the main only by the means of exports truly, "Yours very to us, we trust that the President will not hesitate to make use of the "A. W. MELLON, Secretary." power granted him by the new tariff law to make such adjustments in -Taylor, President the schedules as may be necessary from time to time for a restoration of Remarks of Sir Frederick Williams our international commerce. Canadian Bankers Association. We believe that the time has come for the Government of our country President McAdams: We were entertained in Montreal, as you know, to formulate the principles on which it will be able to co-operate with Our host not only appreciated other nations to bring about the needed rehabilitation of Buropean countries by the Canadian Bankers Association. the importance of our visit but the need for caring for us in a most hospitable and peace in the world. To this end we urge the administration to consider the advisability way. Ile was kind, courteous and considerate and he has responded to our Canadian of promptly making its representative upon the Reparation Commission visit by coming here to attend our convention to show that the in a closer affilia- an official of that body; we also recommend to Congress that there b.' Bankers Association recognizes the wonderful passibility granted to the Debt Funding Commission such further powers as 'len" tion with our organization. of that enab'e it to negotiate more effectively with the foreign nations sow' I simply want the privilege of introducing to you the President of debtors of the United States. Association, Sir Frederick Williams-Taylor, President of the Bank Montreal. IV. Labor—Organized Strikes in Essential Industries Should Be Deemed Sir Reginald McKenna Mr. Taylor: President McAdams,Mr. Governor, Against the Welfare of the State. unexpected pleasure. You seem quite pleased and Gentlemen: This is an see We are glad to note an end of the recent strikes in fundamental indushere to-day. I can assure you you are not half so pleased to to see me reception. I can tell tries, and we hope that the period of peace in industrial life will be used me as I am to see you, and I am delighted at your and it strikes me, for the purpose of careful investigations to serve as a basis for a permanent you that T feel perfectly at home in this good company,(another reason in method of adjustment of the questions arising between employer and as I look around, that there may be two reasons for that the same worker. addition to the obvious one): The obvious one Is that we are all of It is our belief that in those industries whose continued operation is may be blood and stock, and the second is following the first—that there essential to the well-being of the whole people, organized strikes should a good Canadian or two in the audience. Mani- be regarded as against the welfare of the State. We make a sharp disCongress in its wisdom has put thirty cents a bushel on No. 1 hard have tinction between the right of the worker to leave his employment and toba wheat, but they put no embargo on Candian manhood. You attempts made by the intimidation to compel those employees to had a goodly supply of that in this country from Jim Hill downward and I the leave their posts, who otherwise would be willing to work. don't think the mixture of the strain has done you one single bit of harm. BANKING SECTION. V. Transportation—Merchant Marine Should Be Improved Through Individiaul Initiative—Shipping Laws Should Be Modified. We again urge upon the Government and the people to support in every way possible any measures which tend to improve our transportation systems, either on land or on sea. We believe that our merchant marine should be developed through individual initiative and not be placed under Government management, and we approve of the efforts of the President of the United States to bring about such a development as is necessary order that our merchant marine may serve our commerce in time of le . peace and be a protection to our country in time of war. Therefore, we recommend the modification of those sections of our shipping laws which make it impossible for our ship owners to compete on an even basis with ship owners of other countries. VI. Agriculture—Solution of Farmers' Problems Should Be Sought Through Private Enterprise and Not Through Government Aid. We are glad to note a steady improvement in the condition of the farmer, and we congratulate the agricultural community upon having organizelions generally led by men who are showing marked breadth of vision and soundness of judgment in respect to the problems confronting this most important of our industries. We can assure the farmers and livestock producers of the country that the bankers will continue to lend them their best aid in the solution of their manifold problems, which solution should be sought through private enterprise and not through Government aid. We, therefore, approve of the various endeavors being made by the farmers themselves to increase the facilities for the orderly marketing of their products. VII. Federal Reserve System—Disapproval of Attacks Upon It. We disapprove emphatically the attacks made upon the Federal Reserve System and the members of the Federal Reserve Board individually. We believe that there is no surer way of hindering a return to prosperity than by attempts to undermine our banking system, which has proved its value through an unprecedented time of stress and strain. VIII. Currency—To Be Sound Must Be Based Upon Gold. We regret to see that some of our people have not learned from the experience of Russia and the Central Empires of Europe that a sound currency system based upon a gold standard is absolutely essential not merely for the orderly conduct of the business of the country but even for the maintenance of civilized life. IX. Clearing House Examinations—Their Importance to Sound Banking* We recognize the importance to sound banking of examinations conducted under the auspices of the Clearing House associations of the country' l and we recommend the extension of this system of examinations to al communities of sufficient size. X. Education—Sound Thinking Along Economic Lines Recommended. We pledge our support to the incoming President of the American Bankers Association in the campaign to teach sound thinking along economic lines. We regard such education as necessary for the safety of our great democracy. We believe that the universities, colleges and other educational institutions of this country should co-operate to further this work. We recognize the splendid educational accomplishments of the American Institute of Banking, and we recommend its future possibilities to the active and intelligent interest of the members of this Association. 133 Mr. M. A. Traylor: I move the approval of the expressions of the Committee. The motion was seconded and carried. President McAdams: The next order of business is new bus'ness Under this head there is one resolution, and two proposed amendments to the Constitution. The resolution, which comes to you with the unanimous approval and recommendation of the Executive Council that it prevail is as follows: NO DISCRIMINATION AGAINST NATIONAL .BANKS N TAXATION BY THE STATE. "In the interests of fairness and as a necessary protection to the national banks and all other banks against excessive and discriminatory State taxation, your Comittee urges adherence to the principle underlying Section 5219 U. S. Revised Statutes, that the taxation of national bank shares by the State shall not be at a greater rate than is imposed on other moneyed capital of individual citizens of the United States, as construed by the Supreme Court of the United States, and opposes the enactment of legislation which involves departure from that principle." The question is upon the adoption of this resolution which is submitted by your Executve Council. The motion was seconded and carried. Amendments to Constitution of A. B. A. President McAdams: The next is an amendment to the Constitution which was recommended unanimously by the Executive Council at White Sulphur. I will ask Mr. Shepherd to read the proposed amendment. Executive Manager Shepherd: The proposed amendment to Article IX Section 1 of the Constitution submitted at the meeting of the Executive Council held May 12 1922 and approved. "Omit the last sentence of Section 1 of Article IX as follows: two hundred of the "'if the question is determined affirmatively by resolution or subject members present at the convention and voting, the and acted upon matter shall be in regular order and shall be considered to any proposed accordingly: provided that this section shall not apply amendment of the Constitution.' "and substitute therefor: of the 'If the question is determined affirmatively by two hundred subject " members present at the Convention and voting, the resolution or and referred to a matter shall be in regular order and shall be cotisideredExecutive Council special meeting of the Administrative Committee or the to be immediately called for recommendation of approval or disapproval. Upon report of recommendation by the Administrative Committee or the Executive Council, the question shall be acted upon by the convention: Provided, that this section shall not apply to any proposed amendment of the Constitution'." President McAdams: The question is on the adoption of this amendment which has been presented in regular form and endorsed by the Executive Council. The motion was seconded and carried. President McAdams: The second is an amendment proposed by Mr. Oliver J. Sands of Richmond. Executive Manager Shepherd: This is an amendment to Article IX of the Constitution providing a new section: "Section 3. Questions which relate particularly and exclusively to either one of several classes of banks represented by divisions of the Association shall not be acted upon by the convention or by the Executive Council, XI. Retiring President—Appreciation of His Services. ' but only by the particular division to which the question solely relates The American Bankers Association desires to express its hearty appre- In case of dispute whether any question presented under this rule relates ciation of the statesmanlike administration of Its affairs by its retiring particularly and exclusively to any one division, the Administrative ComPresident, Thomas B. McAdams, and it commends especially his success mittee shall have full power of decision. Whenever such dispute arises in co-ordinating the work of this Association with that of similar associa- at any session of the general convention or at any meeting of the Executive tions in this country, and his continued effort to make available the re- Council, the question shall be referred to a special meeting of the Administrative Committee for immediate consideration and report." sources of this Association for our Government and people. President McAdams: Gentlemen, the question is upon the adoption of Mr. McAdams's administration has marked further progress in the merely to its members but also to the the amendment as proposed by Mr. Sands, Do I hear a motion? usefulness of the Association not Mr. Puelicher: Mr. Chairman and Gentlemen of the Convention: country. After a very careful consideration of the proposal by Mr. Sands, it is XII. Executive Manager—Commendation of His Work. disapproved. I, therefore, move We congratulate our Executive Manager, Fred N. Shepherd, upon unanimously recommended that it be the successful conduct of his °Mee and wish to express our appreciation it be tabled. The motion was seconded and carried. of the loyalty and faithfulness which he is showing to the interests of the Association and its members. XIII. Guests—Praise for Reginald McKenna and His Address—Also for Report of Nominating Committee, by R. C. Stephenson Other Speakers. of Indiana. The American Bankers Association desires to record its appreciation Mr. Stephenson: Mr. President and Gentlemen of the Convention: and his willingness at such of the visit of the Rt. Hon. Regina' McKenna The Nominating Committee met yesterday afternoon, selected Raymond a crucial time as the present to deliver his Important and inspiring message. Frazier of Seattle as its Secretary, and I have the honor, as Chairman We regard his address as giving the clearest and most exhaustive picture of the Committee, of making the report to the Convention this morning. of the international situation and his suggestions for the solution of the The Nominating Committee recommends to you the names of the problem are worthy of the most careful consideration. to fill the offices of the Association during the ensuing to express our thanks to the Hon. Herbert following gentlemen We also take this occasion year: Hoover, Hon. Henry J. Allen, Mr. Thomas W. Lamont and Dr. George FOR PRESIDENT R. Vincent for their brilliant addresses and their readiness to give advice John II. Puellcher, President Marshall & Ilsley Bank. Milwaukee. and counsel upon the great questions confronting the nation at this time, FOR 1ST VICE-PRESIDENT and we are also grateful to the gentlemen who addressed the various Walter W. Head, President Omaha National Bank, Omaha, Neb. separate Divisions and Sections of this Convention. Interest. XIV. The Press—Thanks for Its Courtesies and FOR 2D VICE-PRESIDENT 'To the press, we express our thanks for the courtesies and interest in William E. Knox, President Bowery Savings Bank of the City of New and for the full and fair comments with which they have York. our proceedings favored us in their various publications. Mr.President,it is my pleasure to move that the report of the Nominating X7'. Hosts--Gratitude to Those Who Made the Convention Such a Brilliant Committee be approved by the Convention. Upon motion, duly made and seconded, it was voted that the Executive Success. The members of the American Bankers Association find it is Impossible Manager cast one ballot for the convention. thanks and gratitude to their for them to express in adequate terms their New York hosts for the courtesies and kindnesses which have been shown Installation of Officers. them. They recognize that it required unceasing labor on the part President McAdams: Is there any business which needs to be presented of many for a long period of time preceding the Convention to have made of officers? If the meeting such a brilliant success. Unable to name every one who has to the convention before we proceed with the installation contributed to the success of the Convention and the pleasure of those not, I will appreciate it if Mr. Knox will come forward. Mr. Knox, you have been chosen by your associates and friends in the attending, it would convey to Seward Prosser, Chairman of the Committee as its Second Vice-President. Not only is of One Hundred; Mrs. Dwight W. Morrow, Chairman of the Women's American Banke_ts Association the years of service you have rendered this Association. Reception Committee; Welter E. Frew, Chairman of the Executive Com- this a recognition of have always taken in its welfare, but of the fact mittee, and Guy Emerson, Executive Manager, and through them to all and the deep interest you through the savings institutions of this country, members of their committees and any others who may have assisted in that thrift as represented is fundamental if finance in America is to remain sound. their work an acknowledgment of gratitude and appreciation. So this honor not only comes to you because of our confidence in you M. A. TRAYLOR, Chairman, personally, but as a representative of the great Division over which YOU FRED I. KENT, Vice-Chairman, preside with such distinguished ability. WALTER LICHTENSTEIN. Secretary. 134 • BANKERS' CONVENTION. I take pleasure in placing upon you the badge of Second Vice-President, and congratulate both you and the Association upon the wisdom of their choice. Vice-President Knox: Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen: This is no time for speech-making. Even If! wanted to make a speech I couldn't do it under the circumstances. I will just make you a promise: knowing as I do that you have over-estimated my ability, I assure you you have not over-estimated my willingness to serve, and I shall in the future as I have n the past, without any distinction as Pa sections, or districts, give the best service that is in me to the American Bankers Association, relying upon all my friends to help me, to eke out my shortcomings with their help and their wisdom and to stand behind me loyally as they have ih the past. I appreciate the election. President McAdams: Mr. Head, you have been again honored by your associates in the American Bankers Association and it having been my privilege to serve with you during the past year, in both an official and an intimate personal relationship, I can testify to the members of the Association that never have you had an officer more devoted to his work or more zealous to serve than in Walter W. Head. You have done the wise thing in advancing him, and I take a personal interest in having the privilege of placing now upon him the badge of First Vice-President, and hope that it may be exchanged a year hence for a more suitable token. Vice-President-Elect Head: Mr. Chairman, Ladies and Gentlemen of the American Bankers Association: The great honor which you have conferred-upon me is thoroughly appreciated from every standpoint. My aims and efforts and ambitions during my term of office will be devoted to the upholding of the arms of my chief, Mr. Puelicher, whom you have elected as President of this great Association. During that time I shall keep in mind the one thought, that of rendering a service to the membership of this great Association. President McAdams: Some of you don't know John Puelicher. Some of you don't, I am sure, appreciate what kind of a man he really hi, and the reason I say that is because many of you have not had the privilege of coming in as close personal contact with his vibrating personality as to give you a real insight into his nature and his spirit. That has been my privilege since I have been an officer of this Association. I knew him but slightly when he was elected Second Vice-President, but in these two years, not only have I learned to recognize his ability to think wisely and to plan courageously and to work assiduously, but I have learned to love him for the great big soul that is in him. You may be safe in the assurance that during the year to come, nothing will be done in the name of the American Bankers Association which will not reflect credit and honor upon every man and every woman interested in its welfare. President McAdams: Mr. Puelicher, I present to you the gavel of authority, recognizing fully well that it will be wielded in a manner worthy of the best of the traditions of our Association. Mr. Bartlett (Wisconsin): In appre.ciation of the honor conferred by this convention upon one of the active and esteemed bankers of our State. the Wisconsin Bankers Association, consisting of every national, every State. every savings bank and every trust company in Wisconsin, desire to tender our appreciation of your selection and our assurance to your newly elected President, Mr. John H. Puelicher, of Wisconsin, that he has the active support, co-operation and best wishes of every banker in the State of Wisconsin. Mr. Bartlett presented President -Eject Puelicher with a bouquet of flowers. Cheers were given by the Wisconsin Delegation for Mr. Puelicher. President-Elect Puelicher: My friends, ever since the result of yesterday's election became known to me, I have been swallowing lumps as big as my fist, and there is one in my throat now, that I have got to get down before I can say a word. You have given me the greatest opportunity for service in the interest of our profession that can come to one of us. I approach the great honor very humbly. I appreciate the token from my friends in Wisconsin. It is there that I started my activities in Association affairs. My home has always been there and their good wishes, as do yours, mean much to me. I want first of all, in accepting this office, to express my appreciation of the privilege of having been associated with our retiring President. In addition to the intelligent consideration of every question that rightly came before him, he gave a loyalty, and a devotion, which will always leave the Association his debtor. Mr. McAdams put into his work his big, warm. Southern heart and gave of his great, generous soul. Much of his planning will be carried on in the coming year. Many of the things that he has instituted we will continue to further: many of the problems, the solution of which he has undertaken and that need further caring for will be carefully cared for. We approach the year with many of the world's problems still unsolved. As we learned from Mr. McKenna's speech yesterday, the international situation in which we by force of circumstances are vitally interested is still without a solution, a solution in which the American banker must take a prominent, if not the most prominent, part. The industrial situation is one which continues to give cause for worry. and there in conjunction with other national associations, we may be able to serve, as Governor Allen, who addressed us so eloquently this morning, found the solution. Think of it. The agricultural situation is one to which special attention has been devoted. It has been the endeavor of the American Bankers Association to bring about a better understanding between the agricultural and the financial interests. The banker has learned that the farmer has a real problem which differs cansiderably from the credit problems of manufacturer and merchant. On the other hand,the farmer realizes that his interests will not be served by furthering and promoting schemes which will benefit him temporarily, but will work permanent injury to the rest of the country. In no field, however, can the banker be of greater service than in protecting the integrity of our banking and currency systems. We have the terrible example of Russia before us. Russia deserted the gold standard. As so many of the world problems rest on the application of sound economics, the work of the Committee on Public Education, to make that knowledge more general, will continue to become more and more important. The year will bring with it many new problems and in the solution of all of our problems I rely upon your active support and assistance. Now, as I said in the beginning, you have given me great opportunity for service. I pray that I may have the strength and the wisdom to render acceptable service. Life is service. In serving we live. I go to serve. Thank you. CLEARING HOUSE SECTION AMERICAN BANKERS' ASSOCIATION Sixteenth Annual Meeting, Held in New York City, October 2, 1922. INDEX TO CLEARING HOUSE PROCEEDINGS Labor Unions—Their Power and Irresponsibility, L. F. Loree Page 135 137 Looking Ahead—The Bankers' Responsibility, John McHugh Annual Address and Report of the President of the Clearing 143 House Section, John R. Washburn Report of the Executive Committee, Clearing House Section, 143 Francis Coates. Jr_ Page Symposium on Clearing House Examiner System Report of the Secretary of the Clearing House Section, D. A. Mullen Report of Resolutions Committee Report of the Nominating Committee, Irstallation and Remarks of Incoming President, Jos. Ringold 140 144 144 145 Labor Unions —Their Power and Irresponsibility By L. F. LoaE.E. President of the Delaware & Hudson Compa On August 18 the President of the United States, in the performance of his constitutional duty of addressing the Congress on the state of the nation, advised: . . the . . . The simple but significant truth was revealed that, country is at the mercy of the United Mine Workers. If this land, where as Lincoln said at Gettysburg— . . . our fathers brought forth a new nation, conceived in liberty . . . has passed under the yoke of bondage, if we must indeed now bend the knee and bow the head to tyranny, we may well consider all other matters for the time of minor importance. It is unthinkable that this couutry, where all have had equal opportunity, where the individual energies of man have been uncramped by oppressive social institutions or absurd distinctions of caste or class, is to have the powers of the more highly gifted as well as the general welfare stifled by this monstrous growth. What is the Labor Union, and what is the meat on which it feeds, that it has grown so great? n The modern labor organizations rest upon their separatio of the manager, the capitalist and the workof the functions their exeman, of the direction of industrial operations and the brain worker and the property cution in detail; of on the other. owner on the one hand and the manual workers or another for perhaps 200 years, it Existing in one form great financial Is only since 1860 that it has acquired of membership, through a combinastrength and permanence with the tion of the functions of a trade protective society; the dominant spirits upon the calculated pressure brought by transfer of the leadisolated, unprotected individual; and a to a class of ership from the casual enthusiast and agitator permanent salaried officials. s about The total membership of these unions aggregate n and 8% of those engaged in gainful 3% of the populatio ce is their massing occupations. What gives them significan element of the industrial world in so as to form a powerful the textile, buildcertain industries; mining, transportation, ing and machinists trades. and the vital eleThe skeleton of the trade union world, the permanent salaried officials. ment in its politics, are rests exclusively in the some 20,000 or more. Its government the great associations, numbering hands of the officials of are dominated by an less than a thousand, and these in turn Inner circle of a few score men. condition of "organized We seem to have passed from the of "labor professionally, organized," labor" to a condition from above, exwhere the great mass responds to pressure By. ploitivig and being exploited for the benefit of its rulers; our whom President Harding suggests have now become rulers. For the most part their avowed policies are rank economic by heresies—the creation of an artificial scarcity of labor limiting the number of apprentices to one for four or five Journeymen and extending the term of the apprenticeship over an absurd length of time, by enforcing a limitation of handy men, by limiting their progression in the trade, by keeping out aspirants by large initiation fees or other penalties, by restricting output; while opposing as a deadly curse all labor-saving devices whether of mechanical tools, power development and transmission, or the effort of management through piece work, bonuses or other skillful arrangement of organization. Mr. Frank Tannenbaum. a radical unionist, saying publicly what he claims the others say in secret, states in his recent book,"The Labor Movement": Unless we see the labor movement as an irresistible coming together of men in terms of the tools and the industry which they use in common, for purposes of greater security by more effective control of them, we cannot and do not understand the labor movement at all. . .. The struggle of the worker and the employer is an inevitable one until either worker has been reduced to an impotent tool or the profit motive in industry has been displaced. . . . To do this it is necessary also to control the State. The method of the labor movement is to make the function of an industrial group a conscious group function, . . . to transfer the power of the community, its actual power and knowledge, its control and discipline, from a political political to an economic affiliation. . . . Power shifts from the grouping to the industrial, as the workers organize. ons With these frank statements of the aims and implicati of organized labor there go equally frank statements of its practices. The eight-hour day serves many purposes. But the one which is predominant in the minds of the workers is the belief that it will make more work and will make what work there is last longer. . . . Next to the hours of labor that a man may work is the amount of work a man may do during those hours. Limitation has become a general policy for the worker. . . . The an theory of the survival of the fittest has no economic implications within organized group of workers. . . . It works by cumulatively reducing economic incomes, economic ambitions and economic incentives to a common and the denominator, wiping out the differentials between the unskilled skilled. As to the future, Mr. Tannenbaum's attitude is happy-goincenlucky. He posits the question "what will happen to tive?" and his own reply Is: it will The easiest and probably the best answer that can be made is that take care of itself. vital In all these things they war against society, whose increased production, an interest, could they but Interest is see it, especially vital to labor, unionized or free. the What can we say of wages? When business is brisk very formalism of organized labor prevents the rise in the 136 BANKERS' CONVENTION. wages of its members from being as rapid as that of free la- ments, governments of their own making, and a press of bor, while when business is slack their efforts to retard the which they are proprietors. Perhaps it is historically true decline in wages affects the nominal rather than the real that no order of society perishes save by its own hand." wage, the pay check rather than the purchasing power. This Capital has no reason to be abashed by any analysis of the benefits no one since the level of wages is reflected in the part played by it in civilization. It has made that civilizalevel of prices, while refusal to adjust wage rates diminishes tion possible. It has given to every hour of honest toil more earnings by preventing continuous employment. Everyone than it could have obtained under any other system. At their is interested in seeing that the workman gets a liberal wage. worst our times because of it are better than what went beIt insures a high standard of living, of the first importan ce, fore. Every capitalist ought to understand this, to make it not only to the individual and his family, to the community his living faith, and to be by it inspired with courage. Let and State, but to the future of society and the race. If you us recall the saying written upon the front of our great public were moved only by selfish interests you would have to bear library, "For verily truth beareth away the victory." in mind that wages are the most rapidly flowing of all the In the Holy Bible that was for our forefathers their suffistreams of money and so the source of the largest profits to eient guide of conduct, the question is put "for what is a man the traders. advantaged if he gain the whole world, and lose himself or Just as you are interested in a liberal wage scale so are be cast away?" In one aspect you have this question before you interested in the effort to set a proper limit to the dura- you every working hour. In your every transaction you have tion of toil. But this question is to be resolved not by apto consider the security of the principal and the rate of repeals to sentiment or emotion, but by the dry light of reason. turn, and always the first is the primary consideration. Can What do we know about hours of labor? Only this, that if you not carry that practice into the larger affairs of life? we all stopped work the last survivor would be dead in 18 Can you not for the immediate future be content with months, and that formerly working 10 hours per day we were smaller returns to make safe the accumulations Of the past, all in a high state of advancing prosperity. The eight-hour both material and spiritual? You give up to the Government day and the six-hour five-day week have never been subjected a substantial part of your income. Can you not add to this to the test of experience. What we can say with confidenc e outgo a fraction more as a matter of insurance, and what is is that the spread between eight and ten hours is sufficien t of greater moment, a substantial portion of your time and to take up if properly utilized all the fluctuation of good and thought? bad years; to stabilize labor and insure continuity of emHow may this be applied in the matter I have been disployment; and to avert the growing demand that we again cussing? open the doors to a flood of unrestricted immigration. I would not have you think that I am unsympathetic with The assertion that "the right to organize is denied" is a labor. It is because I am sympathetic with it that I venture man of straw set up to be knocked down. What is of mo- on these suggestions. Labor needs help from the outside. ment is the implications of the organization whether it It needs to be rescued from an organization that has become lacks the ability to maintain itself unless, as set up in the its tyrant and which the President says has become ours. recent proceedings of the Attorney-General at Chicago, it reIf we bring about that orderly arrangement of our ideas sorts to "murders, beatings and sluggings, shooting of men that alone gives value to the human mind, and utilize that at work, poisoning their food, beating and terrifying their foresight which gives its greatest value to science, we may wives and children, and destroying the property of employgreatly benefit the laborer in his safety and comfort without ers"; rising from misdemeanor to criminality, from abusive in any way failing in the equally important object of benelanguage to the bombing of the Los Angeles "Times" or the fiting him intellectually and spiritually. I would, then, for massacre at Herrin, ; whether the attack upon the indi- the preservation of society and for labor's direct and immevidual, the use of the organization to close-the-shop to all diate benefit, make these provisions in our laws: not of its membership, condemning the others to a living 1. That any voluntary association of seven or more memdeath; whether the incessant attacks upon the police power bers may sue or be sued in the name of the association, serof the State, the condemnation of the State's constabulary, vice of process upon any officer, manager or business agent the State's militia, the injunction power of the State's courts of such association to constitute service upon the association. and 'all other of its instruments of power, evidence the pur2. That such associations shall keep their records in form pose to set up the supremacy of the union over and above the prescribe d by public authority, that their accounts shall be law of the land. at all times open for inspection and audit, that annual report No society or State may regard with unconcern the growth thereon shall be made, and that the use of the funds of within its midst of "secret societies." The "Order of the the associati on for political purposes shall be a criminal Illuminati" and the "Jacobin Club" of the French Revolu- offense. tion and of the "Terror" have their logical successor in or3. That the authority of the designated officer of the State ganizations which in our time seek to overthrow the Govern- to deal with labor disputes shall include the duty to make ment and grasp the reins of power. Only the entire citizenry inquiry concerning matters in dispute with the right to subcan be loyal to a form of government. A particular class will paena witnesses , examine them under oath and require the attach itself to the Government only if the Government con- production of books and papers In order to enable him to fers benefits upon it. It is to the interest of every citizen ascertain all facts material to the dispute and to furnish the that we should have, as our fathers contemplated, a common- public and every employer and employee entitled to vote wealth founded upon industry and frugality and recognition upon the questions of strikes and lockouts involved, with a of the rights of those who save and invest, wait and lead, copy of his report, and that notice of the intention to strike take risks and responsibilities, as well as upon those who or lockout must be made to such officer at least 14 days beobey and work with their hands. fore the date fixed for such action. What has made possible this growing menace? Is it that 4. That every ballot cast for strikes or lockouts shall be we have lost faith in ourselves and in our work? so safeguarded as to preserve the freedom of the voter and John Maynard Keynes writing on the "Economic Conse- the decision at which he has arrived, and to that end that the quences of the Peace," says."we are . . . faced in Europe designate officer d of the State shall be charged with the with the spectacle of an extraordinary weakness on the part duty of supervising the vote so as to insure a secret ballot of the great capitalist class. The terror and personal timid- free from intimidation or misrepres entation, and its honest ity of the individuals of this class is now so great, their con- count. The vote should be the definitiv e action and not be fidence in their place in society and in their necessity to the subject to the veto or use of the chief officer. social organism so diminished,.that they are the easy victims The labor unions cry to Heaven that they have the "right of intimidation. . . . Now they tremble before every in- to organize." No one denies it—but let them in the exercise sult, . . . and they will give you any ransom you choose of the right assume the responsibilities it entails. If they to ask not to speak of them harshly. They allow themselves would benefit by organization let them also, as does capital, to be ruined and altogether undone by their own instru- bear the restrictions and burdens of organizat ion. CLEARING HOUSE SECTION. 137. Looking Ahead—The Bankers' Responsibility By JoaN McHum!, President of the Mechanics and Metals National Bank of New York. banks. They promote a closer personal and business acquaintance among the members, secure co-operation upon matters affecting their interest, and facilitate the free discussion of subjects of importance to the banking interests of the community. As a stabilizing force in any community, the clearing house association proceeds about its business with so little visible effort that it is hardly reckoned as one of the guiding powers until the storm comes. In times of financial stress, the identity of the banker is sunk in the action of the group, and the group has never failed to act promptly and with wisdom. The achievements of the clearing house associations in the panic year of 1907 as well as the months following the outbreak of the World War, need not be related to you. It was in these periods that through the well directed use of the equipment and machinery of the clearing houses of the country, untold financial losses were averted. The Clearing House Section of the American Bankers Association is constantly and industriously endeavoring to promote this character of co-operation and uniformity of community action. It not only urges and promotes prudent and constructive banking, but the most modern and effective methods to insure the greatest measure of service. It is needless to say that it should have, does have and will continue to have, the whole-hearted approval and support of the bankers of the country. Looking away from our own immediate affairs and taking the wider view, most of us are at times a little bit bewildered by all that is going on about us. At every preceding convention of the American Bankers Association and its Sections. Interesting and pressing problems have been the subject of discussion. But I wonder if at any previous convention there was opportunity for discussion of more important problems than those which confront us to-day, problems, I mean, that in every aspect have a tremendous and unavoidable bearing on the welfare of every community and every individual within the United States. We came long ago to see that the war had brought a great turn in the tide of our affairs. The four years that have elapsed since the war was terminated have brought still another, and, I believe, greater, turn in the tide of affairs. This turn has not been marked with the vividness of the war, nor by such soul-stirring events as those of the tragic days which preceded the armistice. But it has brought us into an epoch that is altogether new, and we are to-day face to face with problems that, as I have just said, bear tremendously and in every aspect on our welfare. I shall not, right off, present a pessimistic recital of these. Indeed, before I come to mention a single one of them, I wish to go on record in regard to their outcome that I am unqualifiedly optimistic. History has no record of civilization having collapsed under problems such as these we now face. On the contrary, its pages relate the fact that mankind not only faced such problems, but overcame them, and went forward In spite of them. So far as this country is concerned, I am optimistic because, after all, the initiative for overcoming existing difficulties and for attaining true prosperty lies in the hands of the most resourceful body of thinkers and the most constructive body of workers in the world—the American people. What impresses me so profoundly, and what causes me to look so confidently to the future is the way in which America has progressed in the past few years, despite every ominous cloud that has overshadowed the country, despite every blunder that has been made—and there have been many of them—and despite the waste that has attended all our national difficulties. Dating from the outbreak of the war, one cloud after another has darkened our progress. Deflation has been a trying experience. Wealth, and what was banks in a given county. Active clearing house associations in our smaller cities and thought to be wealth, in many instances has been wiped out. towns promote the general welfare and usefulness of the Costly mistakes have been made, alike in business, finance I consider it a very great privilege to address this annual convention of the Clearing House Section of the American Bankers Association and I am not unmindful of the honor conferred in asking me to do so. I rather hesitated, however, to accept the invitation for the reason that I would very much prefer to leave speech-making to those who like to make speeches, but as I was several years ago officially connected with this Section of the Association and as I am heartily in favor of the good work it has done and is doing, I did not find it easy to decline. Then, too, I appreciated hat this occasion furnished an opportunity to meet old friends again here in the nation's financial metropolis and see how time and fortune have treated them. To please Mr. Washburn, Mr. Ringold and others connected with the activities of the Section, I therefore accepted the invitation, and now, not to displease you, I shall impose on your patience only long enough to convey my cordial greetings and good wishes and to present a few thoughts which I hope will prove to be worthy of your attention. These I have reduced to writing, Inasmuch as notes will keep me from rambling too far over a large number of subjects and will as well strictly limit my time, all in your interest. The Clearing House Section of the American Bankers Association is, in my opinion, not only one of the most valuable divisions of the Association, but one of the most valuable avenues for the advancement of sound banking doctrine in the country. It has to its credit the development and fulfillment of many constructive ideas, and will undoubtedly continue its good work with good results for many years to come. Time moves so rapidly and the Clearing House idea seems to be of such recent development, that many of you will be surprised to learn that the New York Clearing House Association, where the Clearing House idea had its inception, will have rounded out 70 years of useful service within a few months. It was in 1853 that the New York Clearing House Association was organized, without, I dare say, a single one of the bankers responsible appreciating in even the smallest degree the future importance to the whole country of what they were doing. Upon the success of the New York experiment, Clearing House Associations were established in practically every large city of the United States, and to-day even the small cities and towns have come to recognize the advantages of the system and to this end the indefatigable efforts of the Clearing House Section have been most helpful. Experience has proven beyond all question that there is no form of organization among banks that is less expensive to maintain and yet more effective and valuable than that of the local clearing house association. It serves as a medium through which the banks of the community may co-operate to strengthen and protect themselves, and at the same time better their facilities in order that they may render greater and improved service to the public. Every sign would seem to indicate that the time is not far distant when all towns and cities having three or four or more banks will have a local clearing house association. Our small country banks have far more to do with the administration of our country's affairs than many of us realize. With approximately 30,000 banks in this country, 20,000 have a capital of $50,000 or less and a major portion of them located in towns of 10,000 or less. These are an important factor in our future welfare, and this fact, reduced to its lowest term, means that these banks, because of their number, location and influence, must co-operate locally in the same manner that the city banks have done through their local clearing house association. This idea is already being earned out by the successful organization in many instances of a county clearing house association, taking in all the 138 BANKERS' CONVENTION. and politics. Strikes haxe followed one another and have It will be remembered that the Genoa Conference and the brought loss to employers, employees and the public gener- Hague Conference failed and the Paris Conference of the ally and have seriously checked business. past summer disbanded without success because of the hosAgainst all this, we have gone forward. More, we have tile and unbending attitude which statesmen bore to one angone forward so far that as a people we have come to occupy other. For the moment, matters continue for the most part a place of world leadership which is as undisputed as it is in the hands of those same statesmen. They are showing, unparalleled. however, a marked change in their attitude toward one anA brief review of our condition shows that we enjoy a other and in their point of view. Tolerance and a capacity strong banking position, an ease of money rates, a large in- to work out problems from now on must be essentially the dustrial output, an abundant harvest, and a large buying attributes of those entrusted with the practica lsupervision power among the rank and file of the peoples. It shows an of existing affairs, if those affairs are to work out properly. upward course of security values that reflects a large degree The fundamental remedy for the plight of Europe is what of confidence in the future. Money and credit for all legiti- may be called, in a general term, stabilization. We have mate purposes are plentiful and will continue so indefi- heard time after time that stabilization cannot be artificially nitely. Crops have been good in the great agricultural sec- hastened, but that it must come as a result of the remorsetions of the country, the yield is abundant and far in excess less working of economic laws. But as a matter of common of our domestic requirements, and the value of the harvest sense Europe's leaders cannot permit chaos to dominate is $1,250,000,000 more than that of last year. according to their acts without some intelligent and co-operative effort to Government estimates. put matters right. The economic weakness of every country It may" be thought that this optimistic view is somewhat abroad springs from the destruction of international confinarrow because it is national; that while we have made dence. It can be swept away only as international confiprogress other people have gone back; that eventually mis- dence is restored, and as the interchange of credit, on a firm fortune abroad must tell on us. It is true that our happiness basis, is renewed. bears a contrast with that other people. Europe in parThis means that international obligations must be adticular is weighted down with difficulties, and its peoples justed in a way that will permit individual nations to proare blocked at every turn from attaining true comfort and gress. It means a balancing of national budgets, an ending prosperity. But even with regard to Europe, none of its dif- of the orgy of inflation and a return of currencies perhaps ficulties have kept the world from moving, and what should with the help of our gold—to a fixed standard. offset pessimism is the repeated measure in which the diffiA unity of ideas among the nations regarding credit is a culties of that continent, which were thought by every one prerequisite of any constructive action with respect to their too heavy to bear, have been tided over. most pressing problems. Hence, before gold begins to flow • Go back to 1919, the first year after the war, and recall back to Europe, before disordered currencies are taken in the extreme pessimism which pervaded public opinion re- hand, and before international exchanges are regularized, a garding the then existing business and social conditions. real basis for peace-time relations must be adjusted, and That pessimism was not warranted. The public judgment then made fixed and certain. The huge debts due by nations was wrong, just as it has been wrong every time that an im- to one another must be compromised where necessary and minent social collapse or financal crash has been predicated then funded. New long-term credits, for the purpose of for one or another European country. Europe has not by any stabilization, must be granted. means overcome its terrible war legacy, and at times, it is These problems are primarily for Europe to determine, and true, it does seem destined to go down under its weight. With perhaps it behooves us to refrain, as we have been advised certain exceptions, however, its countries, have borne up for to do, from giving too much "smug advice" for solving them. four years under that legacy,and have made headway against But they are related very directly to the trade and prosperity terrific odds. So there is every sound reason to believe that of the United States, as we have already learned, hence it socially and economically Europe will eventually recover. cannot be considered bad taste on our part to give voice to Europe, by its present suffering, is paying a part of the the hope that these problems will soon come to settlement price of the war that destroyed ten million lives, wiped out through negotiation and conference and in a spirit of tolerthree Empires, warped all conceptions of right and wrong, ance and good-will. and dissipated the wealth accumulated over three generaSome of us perhaps feel that we have no interest in the fixtions. Russia is to-day poverty-stricken and isolated. Aus- ing of the German reparations. As a matter of fact, this tria is no longer even a shadow of its former self; Germany particular proposition has a very significant interest for us, bears a burden that drags heavily upon her. The misery of not only because of its fundamental relations to international people in those countries which are the greatest sufferers trade and finance, but because of the extent of America's from the war finds its reflection everywhere. It underlies, contribution thus far to the payment of the reparations. or at least directly affects, virtually every problem that conThere are no exact figures available, but it is conservative fronts us. to say that several hundred million dollars of American Yet there is ground for confident hope regarding the future money has been invested (with the hope of profit on the part of Europe, and I believe that this hope will be increasingly of the individual buyer, it is true) in German marks, at realized. I am especially inclined to say this because Eu- prices ranging.from 8 cents downward. The Comptroller of rope's chief difficulties are at last crystallized, and have the Currency has estimated the total of all foreign currenforced an increasingly sympathetic treatment on the part cies bought by Americans at $500,000,000; the bulk of this of those men whose hostility to one another, until recently, outlay, in all likelihood, was for marks. In addition to the and whose bitter jealousy and misguided national ambitions paper marks actually owned and held here in the shape of kept them from coming to any common agreement. currency, there is also a large amount of marks purchased A notable sign of change abroad is the recognition of the through regular banking channels and held within Germany dominance of economic forces over political forces. The Itself, on deposit in banks. great mistake of those who drew the Peace Treaty of 1919 In this manner American funds, with the funds of people was that they set political forces over economic forces and of other countries outside of Germany, have been placed at established borders and dictated policies on a basis of polit- the disposal of Germany, so that instead of Germany itself ical expediency without proper regard for economic relation- making the full payments for reparations, nations that were ships. This mistake was carried forward, and so long as victorious in the war have made a very considerable contriEurope's point of view was primarily political, no economic bution. stabilization could be looked for. "Indeed," to quote from The process has been simple enough. Germany has no a recent letter from one of England's leading banks, "it may favorable foreign trade balance out of which to meet its forbe said that the present sorry position of Europe is due to eign obligations, and has been unable to secure outside loans the refusal to face facts, a policy which seems to have dom- for that purpose. Hence, those in control of its finances ina ted statesmen since the war was brought to an end." have turned out billions and tens of billions of paper marks, CLEARING HOUSE SECTION. selling them in large part in outside countries for whatever gold value they could obtain, and turning that gold value over in payment to Germany's creditors. By selling marks the German interests have established balances in New York and alsewhere, against which they have drawn to apply on their reparation payments. In brief. then, America has contributed handsomely, although unintentionally, to the payment of Germany's war penalty. How costly the operation has been may be judged when it is pointed out that at current quotations, the marks for which an American paid. let us say, $100 are worth less than $2. This difference. multiplied by as many times as there are Americans who bought marks. measures our present loss through Germany's violation of every sound rule of finance, by which, when all is said and done, so many of our people have been victimized. The German mark has ceased to be the attractive investment it was heretofore thought to be by Americans who had confidence in German thrift and industry, hence the volume of American dollars that was going into marks has greatly decreased. And it is safe to assume that this same attitude has been taken in other countries where the public heretofore bought heavily of marks. The result has been a greatly reduced addition to Germany's credit balances abroad. With its marks unable to establish large foreign balances, without a substantial foreign trade balance, and without credit against which it can borrow, Germany is hard set to meet the reparations terms, hence, we have every reason to believe that an early understanding will be reached which will avert utter chaos with respect to Germany's financial affairs. From a trade viewpoint, our interest in all of this is very direct. Germany as an industrial nation has always occupied a large place in the trade of the world. Although an exporter of finished goods in competition with ourselves, it has been a large buyer of our raw products. We look for Germany in the future to buy heavily from the United States, and we have, therefore, more than a passing interest in the terms that are fixed upon Germany by which its obligations are to be permanently established, and by which its future place, economically among the nations, is to be determined. With regard to international financial relations generally, it is an intolerable situation that we contemplate at present, no matter what the angle of our view. As for the part we have to take in mending matters, that must,of course, depend upon how Europe's statesmen rise to their opportunity; it must be governed by their plans. When it is seen that the point has been reached where America can be really helpful In working out the solutions, I have no doubt that we will change our present inclination to stand aloof, and will, both with our counsel and tangible aid, intelligently directed, do our proper part in solving the major difficulties which beset the world. Though this may still be a time for "watchful waiting," it would be helpful to ourselves as well as others were we officially represented abroad on the commissions which are striving to settle controversial questions and aid recovery. Our representatives would not need to have the power to involve the United States in tangible commitments, but they could have a voice in the settlement of disputes and in the consideration of these measures which affect the destiny of nations which are debtors to the United States and are the principal oversea buyers of our products. I have seen copies of cartoons appearing in foreign newspapers which show Uncle Sam, sleek and satisfied, seated at his door comfortably enjoying a cigar, while across the water from him Europe is shown burning up, its miserable people helplessly looking on. To make their point, cartoonists exaggerate their subjects; still, there is enough in the pictures which are appearing to make us ask ourselves seriously whether Europe's condition, which is a result of its war calamity. has not a larger bearing on America's destiny than some of us are still willing to recognize. I am not going to offer criticism of American isolation. Nor shall I plead for less absorption in our own affairs. If we are blessed with courageous and clear-sighted leadership, we are bound eventually to go beyond our isolation barrier 139 as far as we should go, and in any case, time is bound to widen our vision and adjust our absorption in domestic affairs. Our own affairs must, of course, always come first; your home and family, and mine, mean more to you and me than anything else in the world. Then, too, there is so much for us to do at home; opportunity was never greater. Sir Auckland Geddes, the British Ambassador to the United States, showed his understanding of this when he said last July in a speech made in London: "America has given to the world the riches of a continent which but yesterday was a wilderness. Of course, she is absorbed in her own affairs. How could she be otherwise? Her thought is in that tremendous structural and industrial work which has made her one of the greatest nations on the earth. That is a problem as close to her as our problems are to Europeans." Our tremendous structural and industrial work, however, have been built up not in relation to our own markets alone. They have been built up to gain as well the benefits of the broad markets of the world. Our civilization is tied up very closely with the civilization of other people, and this means that our standard of living is dependent in a arge degree upon the standard of living in other parts of the world. Therein lies our interest, beyond the common human interest in our fellow man, in hastening the recovering of Europe. The time, then, has come to determine upon a definite policy with regard to the Allied debts to the Treasury of the United Sin tes. Other speakers during this convention week are to make this theme their topic, and I will not therefore presume to anticipate what they are to say. At the same time I feel that my discussion would be incomplete without reference to these debts, which next to Germany's reparations obligations, comprise the world's greatest and most complicated single problem of international finance. To date these debts amount to approximately $11,700,000,000, adding accrued interest to principal. The debts are fairly due. At no time were they considered in the nature of a free gift. On the contrary, they have been recognized and acknowledged as the solemn obligations of individual sovereign States, and there has been no suggestions from a single one of these of repudiation. At the same time, circumstances have arisen so far beyond the control of those concerned that the proposition is seriously made to cancel these debts in whole or in part. This involves compromise, not repudiation. Compromise is prompted by the abnormal state of international exchanges, the difficulties of the world's credit problems and the circumstances under which the obligations to us were contracted. With respect to the debts of other Governments to us, growing out of the war, the determination of the question whether they should be canceled in full, in part, or not at all, should be given careful study by the American people generally, for the reason that we can progress to a solution only when and so far as public opinion and understanding approve. By dealing in a large visioned and liberal manner with the debts due us, and exercising our credit power wisely, we can go a long way to mitigate the circumstances which keep Europe in turmoil. If any portion of the debt be canceled eventually, a direct benefit may result to us even though at first it would look as though American taxpayers were being penalized for the benefit of others. A partial cancellation would be a contribution to world stability on our part if it served the purpose of compelling an adjustment of the difficulties which now serve as a curse on Europe. Such a partial cancellation could readily be made contingent upon agreements as to the balancing of budgets, the curtailment of inflation, the reduction of armaments and the elimination of Governmental waste. There is to be considered in connection with the compromising of foreign Government loans, the extension of new loans to those very interests who are relieved from existing obligations. As time goes on, new loans will be called for; measures will be taken abroad to secure our surplus gold; loans will be negotiated in the interest of trade. With a capacity for production beyond our own immediate requirements. we shall continue to look to foreign markets for an 140 BANKERS' CONVENTION. outlet for that over-production. Our cotton, wheat, copper and oil, to mention only a few raw products, and a large number of manufactured materials, are produced in greater quantity than we ourselves can use. Whether we will go on with the over-production in the future depends on whether foreign markets absorb our surplus, and that, in turn, depends in large measure on whether we can and will adequately finance our foreign trade. This will continue to be one of our national problems for some time to come. But do not misunderstand me in this: It is not my purpose to maintain that the United States should henceforth indefinitely turn over every year a great surplus of goods to consumers abroad, piling up endless credit balances until they grow so arge as to destroy all hope of their settlement. Europe, indeed, needs gold, goods and credit, and we are in a position to furnish them. The increase of our investments in foreign securities would enable foreigners forthwith to increase their buying power, and in that degree would enlarge our exports. This would mean shipping goods abroad on credit, and everyone familiar with the history of the past few years recognizes that to-day's economic maladjustment between Europe and the United States traces its cause to that practice. Europe gave its notes for billions of dollars worth of American goods, and the result has been an unbalancing of the international scale pans to a degree that would have been regarded as inconceivable before the war. Additional foreign investments by the United States will not constitute a permanent remedy for Europe's malady except on one condition; that is, if they are followed by a vast increase in Europe's productivity, resulting in large annual payments to us against the charges accruing on these investments. If we receive such payments in the form of goods, can we hope, other things being equal, to Maintain a permanent large excess of exports over imports? The answer quite obviously is "no." Our commerce needs to be carried forward on the primary principle of an exchange of goods; imports of those things which we do not produce cheaply should balance as far as possible the export of those things which we produce in abundance. Where credits are from now on granted to finance a surplus of exports over imports, they should be granted with the utmost care, with a full appreciation of their proper relation to the primary principle of foreign trade, and with a definite understanding regarding their payment. In considering all these things, we must look forward to the time when Europe recovers its place in trade, and we must prepare ourselves for the inevitable adjustments which are to occur. We shall not always be coincidentally the world's greatest creditor and export nation on balances. Nor, I take it, would any of us want to be. The moral and financial power of the United States is greater than has ever been known of any nation in civilized history, and in considering this in connection with all our international problems, we should keep in mind that we, as the great creditor nation of the world, occupy a position directly opposite to that which we occupied prior to the war, and it is well to have in mind, too, that by helping others to help themselves we shall indirectly help ourselves, and reflection will be found in improved domestic conditions and values. American can afford to look forward with assurance to its future, not only because of its supreme strength and the intelligence and adaptability of its people, but because every lesson of its history teaches that in overcoming its crises it has always given a new and firmer direction to its prosperity. The amazing thing about our complex civilization is that every situation, supposedly unsolvable, has been solved, and that through it all our civilization has gone forward to higher levels. I have confidence that if our important problems receive the careful thought and study they are entitled to, on the part of the public generally, the correct solution of all of them will be found. But let us face them and not temporize with them. I say this because I feel that the civilization of the future rests in no small measure on American manhood. That it will go forward is a conclusion which none of us will question for a moment. But to carry it forward, direction and guidance are needed. This means leadership. "Time and nature," wrote Ralph Waldo Emerson in one of his famous essays, "yield us many gifts, but not yet the timely man." Let us believe that what Emerson wrote 50 years ago will not apply now: this truly is a time, more than ever, for "timely" men. COMMITTEE OFFICERS'REPORTS-CLEARINGSHOUSE DIVISION Symposium on . Clearing House Examiner System. Led by Charles H. Meyer, Chief Examiner Chicago Clearing House Association, Chicago, Ill. Mr. Charles Meyer: Ladles and Gentlemen of the Convention. I just want to make a few remarks, and I don't think it will take over seven or eight minutes, as an introductory prelude to this symposium of ours. I have made a few notes. I am like the fellow who was asked to say something at the demise of a friend. He hadn't a very good memory and he kept on putting down notes. When he spoke, he told about his birth and a few points in his life and then his death, and then he said,"Now gentlemen, we all hope that our dear departed friend has gone to He- Heaven." Well, getlemen, once more the cycle of time has brought us to the season when this great organization known as the American Bankers Association meets to discuss the financial problems of the day and play golf. In this particular Instance possibly we will see some World Series games. At this, the forty-eighth annual convention, we are guests of our New York friends and we pay them homage in recognition of their hospitality, which is in evidence on every side. in the short time we have been in their midst, and I trust when we bid them adieu our short sojourn will leave with them fond memories of good fellowship, instructive interchange of ideas affecting 00 great responsibilty of the guardianship reposed in the bankers of this country. I want to say just a few words by way of introduction to our Symposium minto Clearing House Examiners here assembled and will take only a few utes of time in doing th,s, as the various subjects on our program to be discussed will fully absorb the time assigned to us. Although this is the forty-eighth annual convention ofthe American BankHouse ers Association it is only within the last few years that the Clearing examiners, by Section has recognized the work you men are doing, you feamaking the subject of clearing h use bank examinations an impotant ClearingHouse ture of discussion at each annual convention, and the various feature Associations of the United States register their approval of this of by the number of examiners they have sent here on the earnest appeal our worthy Secretary Mr Mullen. I want to digress, gentlemen, just long enough to express my sincere appreciation of the wonderful work Mr. Mullen has done in the past few years in bringing this Clearing House Examiner proposition up to the different Clearing House Associations, and I think I w-uld be making a mistake if I did not include in that our good Men], Mr. Coates from Cleveland, Clearing House Examiner or Cleveland. Now as Clearing House Examiner for Chicago,the city which first adopted this system in June 1906, sixteen years ago, I believe I am entitled to evidence a pardonable pride and enthusiasm in lauding its merits, for in the eight years that I have held this position I have become more and more impressed with the great results obtained in the practical application of this method of bank inspection. Suffice it to once more call attention to the fact that not one dollar has been lost to a Clearing House bank in the city of Chicago since this system was inaugurated. And also that nearly all the large cities and many of the smaller ones have followed our lead and established this method in recognition of the practical results obtained. I could elaborate at great length in placing before you the various illustrations as to why, in my estimation, this system is so practical in application, but this I believe is not necessary, for you examiners, having had experience in this line of work, recognize the logic of this observation. The system, I believe, receives its maximum We now have 120 banks under Clearing House test in Chicago. supervision, where we had only seventy odd in the beginning of 1921. This increase is a reflection of the recognition by our banks that it is one of the greatest assets they have in being able to advertise to the public that they are under Clearing House supervision. The results obtained by our Clearing House Association through its Department of Examination, have finally attracted the public's attention and the progressive bank is quick to recognize this. Now, gentlemen, in closing these few introductory remarks, I ask your indulgence in quoting just a few references to this system by some of our Chicago bankers at a dinner given at the Drake Hotel last December, at which portraits of Mr. James B. Forgan, Mr. Mitchell and Mr. Hamlin, retiring members of the Clearing House Committee, were unveiled with appropriate ceremonies and which portraits now adorn the walls of our committee rooms. Speeches were made and telegrams read which made reference to accomplishments by the committee during the incumbency of these men, extending over a period of between eighteen and twenty-five years, and I ask you to note the voluntary praise of the examination feature which was established by these men. This was gotten up in printed form, and General Charles G. Dawes, who as Director of the Budget at Washington, was unable to attend that ceremony,sent the following telegram, which read in part as follows: CLEARING HOUSE SECTION. 141 wait and reach the centre of authority one thousand miles away. You "I greatly regret that my work here prevents my attendance at the Bankers Club banquet in honor of Messrs. Mitchell, Forgan and Hamlin. are not governed by any political preferment in appointments of your and to As the years pass and the appreciation of the benefits to our city leader- examiners. The men on that force are appointed for their ability and they the Middle West in its banking and commerce, which we owe to the are kept there as long as possible, because the longer a man is on an examship of these men, will constantly increase, they have at all times stood courageously for conservative principles and sound banking. In times of ining force tne more valuable he becomes. Therefore,they are not changing stress their initiative has been mvaluable, and in more tranquil times their with every administration. steadying influence has kept the feet of our banking interests on the ground. The point that I want to make on the title of this subject is Just as briefly assoTheir system of Clearing House examinations, which they and theirother has been adopted by so many as possible to explain to you how we handle that feature in Chicago. ciates gave to our city and which cities, has placed their names high in the banking history of the United The examiner, in the first place, is not allowed to show his report of States. examination to toe Clearing House Committ ee.He is a sort of a poobab: address by Mr. Solomon Smith, President of the Northern Trust in other words, he is made the goat. In an Co. and also President of the Chif-ago Clearing House Association, and At the completion of each examination he hands a report in full to the ex-offioio a member of the Clearing House Committee, Mr. Smith made President of the bank, each director receiving a notice that the examination the following observation: of that bank has been made as of a certain date and that this report is in the "During the years that these gentlemen were serving, critical situations hands of the President for his perusal. Attached to this letter is a receipt have arisen in this country, and city, which have called for calm and which he must sign, stating that he has received the examiner's notice. cool judgment and prompt discussion. These men have always quickly At any future time, should the question come up and he would say,"Well. risen to the occasion and by their good judgment have guided the Clearing House Banks safe and well. The high standards which they have set has I didn't know the czndition the bank was in," this receipt would be pushed been a splendid example for the bankers of Chicago and other cities, and under his nose, so to speak. That receipt is never allowed to be signed by my sincere hope is that the future committee swill follow their same his secretary; it must be signed in person. standards. "Upon the recommendation of the Clearing House Committee, the The examiner prepares a short letter of what he calls his "committee letAssociation. in June of 1906, inaugurated tne system of clearing house ter," in which he simply hits the high spots, telling the committee what he examinations which, as you all know, has been copied by New York, Boston, Philadelphia, and other important cities in this country. The value has accomplished while in the bank. They don't want him to come there of these e.caminations has been found to be a most important safeguard to and say that "I recommend this and that." They believe there should be the banks and their depositors and has proved the farseeing wisdom of the enough intelligence on the examiner's side and also in the bank that when men who originated the system." these problems come up, that they can get on common ground in a short Next, Mr. James B. Forgan in the course of his address to the bankers while and settle them. assembled there made this statement: "On an occasion of this kind, one Therefore the fear that a lot of these banks have that you are going to naturally becomes reminiscent and retrospective and is liable to become take your entire loan list and lay it before your Clearing House Committee, prosaic." and that the prime object they are going to stand to get an account away Hoping to avoid the latter, may I recall to you some of the incidents from you or a loan that belongs to a good account, is absolutely something connected with the work of the Clearing House Committee during the past that I hope you Clearing House Associations who have not adopted this twenty-five years, which I hope may prove as interesting to you as they system and have bad that back in your heads will look into it carefully. are to me. There are many such incidents but I would only refer to a few If you will give your examiner the proper authority, you will never have of them. The first important event of interest was the inauguration of the any fear of that. In all my eight years' experience as examiner for Chicago Examination in 1906. Bureau of I have not once seen the least intimation, direct or indirect, of any member Passing without comment the cause for this act, let me say that we were of that committee trying to find out the business of his neighbor. pioneers in the organization of this kind of service and that our lead has Gentlemen, I hope I have left the thought with you on that that any one since been followed by similar associations in New York as well as in most who may be here representing a Clearing House Association which is holdof the country. The Clearing House Committee was ing back on that account, will just simply bear in mind that that is up to of the large cities instructed by a resolution of the Association, to establish an Examination your organization, and the powers you delegate to your examiner, and you Bureau and employ the necessary staff for its official operation. will never be bothered by that feature. That is the least of all, but among has since functioned to the entire the banks I think they consider it the most serious. That has been my exI think you will agree with me that it satisfaction of all the banks connected with the Clearing House Associa- perience every time I have talked to any committee that comes outside tion. Its work and its aims have always been constructive and the result of Chicago to look into the system. has been the maintenance of the highest standards of efficiency, conservaMr. Wilson (St. Louis): May I say a word in behalf of the banks entism and business ethics among our clearing house banks. joying the benefits derived from Clearing House examination. I am sure I just want to call attention to one more and then I will close. Mr. George you will pardon me for being a close second of Mr. Meyer when I tell you M.Reynolds, Chairman ofthe Board of Continental & Commercial National that we were a close second to Chicago in establishing the system. We Bank, in his address that evening made the following statement: "I don't are always glad to follow in the lead of a great city and when Chicago esknow whether people really appreciate what they have been to this com- tablished that sytem,they took away from our section James B. McDougal. munity. (Speaking of Mr. Forgan, Mr. Hamill and Mr. Mitchell.) I now Governor of the Federal Reserve Bank, and made him examiner for think I can safely say that the standard of banking in Chicago is at the very the clearing house banks of Chicago. We very shortly thereafter establishtop so far as banking in this country and any other is concerned. I am ed the system in St. Louis. going further than Mr. Forgan did. and I am going to say that frequently, I have always been very much interested in helping in whatever way In answering letters regarding the effect of the adoption of the examination that I could to advance the system. I feel that I have the right to talk of banks, I have said that I confidently believed that the standard of about it because I spent some five years as an examiner myself, following banking in Chicago is at least thirty-five per cent higher than it would have which during my period as an officer of a bank I was a member ef the Clearbeen without the Chicago Clearing House examinations. As Mr. Forgan ing House Management Committee which committee as you know l'as has said, Chicago was the pioneeer in that work." under its direction the examination system. I want to say to you, especiNow, gentlemen, in closing these rew remarks, I simply want to leave ally to those of you who may not yet have the system in your own city, men who are that there can be no other plan in my mind which this thought with you in reading those extracts: That these affords such a splendid national in reputation are impressed by the safeguards thrown round the " measure of protection to the depositor, to the stockholder, and to the depositors in our Chicago banks through this system, and bear in mind, general public as well. their impressions are first-hand, for its practical application in their own Before sitting down I do want to pay a tribute to those who have been city is fully understood and appreciated. mentioned: Mr. Francis Coates, who has worked so earnestly all these our Symposium, I trust euch clearing house With this introduction to years for the advancement of the system, to men like McDougal and his associations as have not yet adopted this system, will give it their most spendid successor, Mr. Meyer, Mr. Hanna, Mr. John W. Wilson out in careful consideration and in adopting it, join with us in building up the best Los Angeles, our own man in St. Louis, Mr. Claiborne, and others, because, machinery yet devised to protect the banks in their great guardianship after all, It is the examiner who has much to do with making the system a success or a failure. You must have a strong man and strong men have of our funds and the public in the safety of its deposits. Mr. Chairman and Gentlemen of the Convention: We have, as you see certainly been selected in these cities which I have mentioned and many on the folders on your chairs a Symposium. We are going to discuss in a other cities as well. I simply rise, Mr. Chairman, more than anything else to earnestly recomsort of an open forum various items of interest, various details that touch mend to every city which has not adoptad the clearing house system of on our work as bank examiners, and it is unnecessary for me to read these have them printed before you. examination that they do so at the earliest possible moment. subjects as you Mr. Hart (Philadelphia): I would like to say first to the people who I want to personally just make a few remarks on one of these subjects for discussion, as I suggest ed it myself. We have various subjects suggested have honored us (I am speaking as an Examiner) by their presence to-day, I suggested to the Chairman, I attended the first meeting in the interest of the Clearing House Section by the different examiners, and the one that Mr. Coates, was the fifth subject, which is "Limitations as to the informa- a few years ago, at a simllar convention, and we had about ten people in attendance. I had gone to considerable trouble to prepare what I thought tion Clearing House Committees should receive from their Examiners." I bring this question up for the simple reason that in all of my reviews was a very able address. I think about five listened to it, and there was Chicago to look into the one gentleman who was very much interested, but he was deaf and had a with the various gentlemen who have come to examiner system, they have at all times given me the impressien that the big ear trumpet, then I had to turn around and repeat my speech to him - through the ear trumpet. greatest stumbling-block in organizing clearing house examination depart To-day there are probably a couple of hundred people here, and tbat relents consists in the fact that the banks in the particular community don't bankers, all competitors in the indicates the growth of interest in this system. like the idea of four or five or six fellox Mr. Chairman, I don't think that we ought to consume much time to-day sitting around a table and mulling over their business. community, I can't blame any of you for having that impression because theoretically in passing compliments or claiming credit, but I think Philadelphia was the that is what is done, but practically it is not. Right there, the point comas second city in the country to establish a Clearing House Examination. up that in the organization of your Clearing House Examination Depart- That was in 1909. I am going to claim a little personal credit. I served ments, the greatest factor of success or failure lies in the man you will eighteen years as a National Bank Examiner under six Comptrollers. I select fur your clearing house examiner, and the latitude you will allow have been connected with the Examination Bureau, as Chief of the Philahim, or rather the responsibility you will place upon him in finally coming delphia Clearing House Association for nearly fourteen years, and among to your Committee and assuring you whether or not that bank is being a few things that they credit me with, and which I claim some credit for, operated along conservative lines; in other words, that the depositors' was the fact that I had the pleasure and the honor, through the suggestion of one of our comptrollers, of approaching Mr. McDougal, who became money is at all times safe. I have always believed that if this work is done properly, with the the Examiner for Chicago and finally the Clearing House Examiner. I wonderful co-operation we get from local men, sitting around a table in a have been conversant and acquainted with nearly all the Examiners in the particular city, that long before a bank can plow through its capital and service. To the point under discussion. I agree with Mr. Meyer, and it is uniits surplus, into the depositors' funds, it will stop them. As we have always said in Chicago, in the sixteen years that that sys- versally conceded that the greatest objection to the Clearing House Examare ination System is the question of secrecy. He anticipated me when he said tem has been in force we have succaeded in doing that. Of course, we human, like any one else, and we don't know when we will fall down, but that (and this Is a little immodest) the right man should be gotten in the it comes nearer being the greatest piece of machinery to insure guranteeing first place, but let the man so deport himself that he has the confidence of bank deposits—the dream of the banker's life—than anything that has of the banking community as well as the confidence of the Committee. Then there is another side to it. The Committee ought to merit the yet been devised. I don't believe legislative enactment can ever come anywhere near being as practical in application as the Clearing House Confidence of the examiner. There is a Clearing House Committee, that Is problems are local. You don't have to one element, the banks themselves are another element, and the conscience System. The reason is that all 142 BANKERS' CONVENTION. of the examiner is the third element in this alliance. I make only two The suggestions for discussion have come to me from all sections of the characters of reports to our Clearing House Committee after I have examUnited States from examiners, and some from bankers. I am going to ined a bank. It is just like an egg—it is either good or bad. Then I report read them briefly for you that haven't got them—I see you all have copies that I have examined such and such a bank and I find the same in a satis- of them. As our time is passing very rapidly, I will close and on behalf of the factory condition. If it is not in a satisfactory condition. I say so. Now when I say it is in a satisfactory condition they never question Section I will extent to you all a very cordial invitation to attend and that. If I say it is not in a satisfactory condition I can indicate what participate in our meetings. Give us the benefit of all that you can give Is wrong, but under the contract between the management and the com- and we will try and do our part in return. I thank you. mittee, the committee has a right to call upon me for any information Mr. Marsh (Newark, N. J.): Newark has never had a clearing house. contained in that report. But primarily, I must assume the responsibility of saying there is an unsatisfactory condition in some department of that You men that have spoken seem to be proud of the fact that you were the bank. first to represnt the clearing houses of the country. I think I am safe Then the Clearing House Committee can call the officers of that bank in saying that Newark probably tried to have the first clearing house in or they can refuse to call them. They can analyze the question and the country. decide upon action, whether remedial or otherwise. About twenty years ago she tried, and has been trying ever since until On this point, I would just like to repeat or read to you one thing showing, March of this year. The clearing house was definitely organized and I I think pretty concisely, my stand. But in the f rst place, as to the am very proud to say every bank in the city is a member of the clearing system, I would like to say this—and I say it pretty frankly and un- house, and last Thursday they cleared for the first time. Right here I want to extend thanks to Mr. Mullen and this Section for hesitatingly: I claim nothing more for the system than the standard. I claim that in the last thirteen years, since it was introduced, all species the help given in organization this clearing house. It was inestimable. We never could have done it if they had not helped us as they did. of bank examination have been raised to a very high standard. We have Being a baby, we have problems that we are trying to solve, and we are blazed the way. I am not reflecting upon either the national Government or the State, because I served under the national Government. And right square up against this examiner system. One of the questions is. if the examinations then were not as good as we claim to-day, and as I "How do you go about getting your man? Do you find a public accountclaim they are making, it is the fault of the Government and not the ant?" This is to the bankers, not to you examiners. "Do you go to your public accountants?" examiner. Hence, I am not reflecting upon any individual. But the We have a great many of them come to us. Do you go out and scout examinations, in my opinion, made throughout tne United States by any for him? If you really want to help the baby of your Associatiion, you class of examiner, are far better and higher than ever before. bankers can tell us on the quiet how you find your man and you will help I think when I read this you will get an idea of what I concede to be the relationship between the examiner and the bankers whom he examines. us very much. Thank you. It is almost unbecoming to me to make this statement, but I do it as a Mr. Brokaw (Kansas City): I just want to reply to the suggestion of compliment to the bankers. In my experience with the Government, I secrecy. Our examiner is here. I don't think we value anything more never had a letter of criticism from the office. I never knew of a banker than the fact that our detailed statement with every single investment in complaining of my treatment of him under examination. But that didn't it is laid before the Clearing House Committee. They are a set of men we are glad to have see it. We are glad to have their suggestions. I mean that I was not efficient, exacting and positive. but I always took the banker into my confidence, to such a degree that he understood exactly can't understand how anybody would be afraid to have their detailed statement laid before the kind of men that would be selected as a Cearing House where I stood, and the Government understood it. That is all included in the atmosphere of what I call my introductory or Committee, because they are the kind of men who can be trusted and their preface to my long report which I submit in each case to the banks under suggestions are of inestimable value. I don't see why that should deter any one. We went into the system in Kansas City in 1908 and there examination and the previous report to the committee. The examinations conducted under the direction of a Clearing House never was a greater thing done for the Kansas City banks than the adopassets and liabilities and promote tion of the Clearing House Examination System, as we rather copied it. are designed to prove the accuracy of safe and sound banking in administration and methods. The force em- I think, from Chicago. It is the biggest thing we ever did in that section. Mr. Meyer: I want to answer Mr. Marsh first. The matter of selectployed is capable and experienced in work of this character. The examiner treats orally with the proper persons, minor criticisms or suggestions, but ing your examiner or the party to take that position is very difficult to sugincluded in detail in his report to boards gest. You said a public accountant. I find that the beat practice is to all matters of higher importance are get a man who is thoroughly familiar with bank practice. No matter how of directors. , "This examination has been thoroughly made and it embraced the fis a1 good a public accountant you may have, he is sometimes in detail not a all bank man at all, and I don t want to be misunderstood in that as casting examination of all tangible assets, the verification of other resources and liabilities, analysis and appraisement of value. Comprehensive statements any reflection on the public accountant. It is just simply a matter of years and exhibits follow, giving full details of the affairs of your institution of experience, and being familiar with bank practice. However, I think (this is to the board), revealing its excellent condition and giving evidence if you ever get to that point where you want to select a man, Mr. Mullen of successful management. The excellent organization system of internal is in a position possibly to help you in that direction. Answering Mr. Brokaw, of course, your observations there are a matter audits and morale of the force generally warrant commendation. Your of personal observation, and it does not change one bit the fact that that is careful perusal of the entire report is respectfully suggested." Mr. Francis Coates: The question of secrecy is one of the very impor- the most serious problem or one of the most serious problems we run into. tant questions that we have to discuss. As Mr. Meyer has outlined the If we go before the Clearing House Associations of the country with that procedure in Chicago, Mr. Hart in Philadelphia. In my own city of Cleve- thought in mind, as you expressed it there, I am very much afraid we won't land, if the examiner finds the bank in good and satisfactory condition, un- get very far. In the large cities that does not hold so good as it does in the smaller der the terms of his contract he can only report to the Clearing House Committee that single fact, that he finds the bank in good and satisfactory con- towns. In the small town everybody's business is the other fellow's business. I am absolutely aware of the fact that you bankers who come dition. If be finds it in other than good and satisfactory condition, he reports to from country sections will say, "Oh, yes, you fellows from the large cities the Clearing House Committee in such manner as he deems best. The in- like Chicago and New York and Philadelphia can stand up there and do a lot of hollering and talking, but you don't know what we are up tention is that none of the innermost secrets of any of the banks shall be against in this place where everybody is leaning over the back fence with disclosed to any member of the Clearing House Committee unless a condition his hand up to his ear listening to what you are saying." were to arise that would be alarming, in which case, at the request of the member I recognize that thoroughly. Those are conditions you most meet. members of the committee, unanimously, with the exception of the happens to be represented, then the I am absolutely going to differ with you. Mr. Brokaw, in laying everyof the bank under examination, if he thing before the Clearing House Committee. The great principle of with the unanimous call of each memter, can demand such committee, examination is to protect the depositors' money. You and I by legisinformation as they may consider necessary. I am glad to say that we have never had a bank taken before our Clearing lative enactment are allowad to put a certain amount of capital into a been any di closures made except bank. That capital is so insignificant as regards the guardianship of House Committee and there have never funds that are brought to you through the powers delegated to you by to the extent that the examiner deemed best and wisest. While secrecy is one of the stumbling blocks to the adoption of the the Government at Washington or in your respective States, that they must surround your guardianship with safeguards of inspection. examiner system in some of our cities, there are other considerations, I Now, the broad principle of bank inspection is best brought about by find. During the past few months I have talked with a good many bankers. having the proper man in charge of that examination, and you must rely of bankers, and I have corresponded with them. It that is communities on his judgment to a great extent. In other words. as Mr. Coates said, has brought out some of the important stumbling blocks that are deterring he only brings it up before his committee in case of absolute necessity some of the cities from adopting the examiner system at the present time. clearing house examiners, there or in case the "egg" is bad. If the bank is good, he simply goes before We have at this convention twenty-two his committee and in a brief way tells them, "Gentlemen, I have comin the United States. There will be representatives from are twenty-seven pleted an examination of that bank and you have my word for it that the banks of all of these cities from which the examiners come. In addition to that, we have extended a formal invitation to some thirty-eight cities the bank's depositors are absolutely protected and the bank is being run during the past few months the estab- along safe lines." If not, we discuss the various details, the policies who have had under consideration lishment of departments of examination. I don't know how many of those that that hank is pursuing that are wrong. In that respect. I think it is a big mistake to take a long list and lay cities will have representatives here, but there will be a rnajoirty. it out there and say. "This bank has this and that bank that." In my discussions and in my correspondence, the four vital stumbling is, the amount of The examiner may have private records there and if anything is hapblock. I have found are the question of seer cy—that pening. a duplication of lines in the various hanks, the examiner will Information that shall be imparted to the members of the Clearing House know that and can tackle that subject intelligently far better than laying Committee—the question of expense, the question that a clearing house It before a committee of five or six gentlemen who have their troubles examiner in his intimate examination into our affairs acquires too much But every day in the year running their own bank and they come to you and knowledge—he knows too much about the banker and his affairs. say, "We are too busy with our banks. That is why we employ you tbe final stumbling block in these cities that are considering the proposition to do this work and if you do it properly we believe you ought to protect is that they are trying to consider something and to decide upon something the responsibility cast around this committee,and if you don't do it properly, that they know nothing about whatever. They don't know what a we don't think we have struck the rignt man." clearing house examiner is. Mr. Brokaw (Kansas City): I am sure in fourteen years there has never We have arranged for a special meeting of examiners to-morrow afterbeen the first complaint on the part of any bank of the (71aering House our problems. We have invited the noon, when R e are going to discuss Committee's knowledge of the intimate details of every bank, not the first representatives from these thirty-eight outside cities to come in and join us I don't think there ever has in our discussions. We want to help them. We want their assistance compalint. Has there been. Mr. Cockerel'? been. and their co-operation. We want them to come in and satisfy themselves differentiated Meyer: I know. Mr Brokaw, but practically that has not been Mr. as to exactly what a clearing house examiner is. He is being taking place. But theoretically, in the mind of the man who has not establfrom a State examiner and a national examiner. We have arranged a program. Our meeting is to be held at '2:30 to- ished this system that will stick just the same. I'll be darned if you felmorrow afternoon at No. 15 West 37th St., in the New York Chapter lows are going to paw over my business around that table; every one of you are competitors. rooms. It is an open discussion on important subjects of interest to You will never get over that hurriedly unless you assure them that the bankers generally. We have sent out the message that all bankers are examiner is going to handle that subject intellignetly and tho best way. Invited to attend and participate In the program. CLEARING HOUSE SECTION. In your case. I don't say (don't misunderstand me) that it is not working practically there, but you will keep an awful lot of cities from adopting the system with that thing in mind. Mr Hart (Philadelphia):In answer to the remarks just made, it is an an exceptional case. unusual. I feet almost as if those people must live in heaven. We would never have had the Clearing House system in Philadelphia if we has expected and altowed the full information to be submitted. I want to emphasize this fact, (that is why I am on my feet): That I ..have a boy in the Clearing House under my own supervision, where my copies are kept. No one has the key to them. The directors get the original report: I keep the copy. The committee never sees those reports except in cases where I have found fault with the management. While I am on the floor I want to answer the Newark man and It may answer some other questions in selecting an examiner—get the man with the managing instinct. That is pretty hard to define. You might say, banking experience, if you please, hut there is something more than that in the successful examiner. He must have intuition, which is almost genius. A man may be a good accountant and a very bad appraiser. A man may be a good accountant and nit know how to handle other men. Try to get a man with what I term the banking instinct, then you are starting right. Annual Address and Report of the President of the Clearing House Section, John R. Washburn, VicePresident of the Continental & Commercial National Bank of Chicago. 143 tunity of getting together and discussing the many problems confronting them in their daily work. Some of the questions which will be discussed are as follows:. Relations of Clearing House organizations and their Individual Member to Non-Member banks; how they are differentiated to the general public; how their checks are treated; how their competition Is met and regulated; what, if any, measure of supervision has the clearing house over them; how the public can best be advised of the aims and Ideals of the clearing house practice; standardization of rules and regulations and forms; the use of a standard certification stamp: the handling of return checks and return items; clearing house emblems and their use: proposed tr msit numbers for branch banks, &c. A special Committee of twelve, consisting of a representative ban'oer from each Federal Reserve District, has been appointed to perfect a plan which we hope will prove of lasting benefit to many banks throughout the country. The duty of this committee will be to help make ereetive a uniform method for the calculation of interest on deposit accounts in the United States, if it be possible, making due allowances for the time required to collect certain deposits. The accomplishment of this would mean a vast saving to the banks of this country. The Numerical Committee of the Clearing House Section at the present time is giving a great deal of thought and attention to the matter of finding a uniform way of designating branches by number, in cities where banking institutions have one or more branches. This Committee is also co-operating with the Federal Reserve Board in trying to suggest a plan under which district numbers would be used on all checks of member and non-member banks. The reports of the Secretary, the Chairman of the Executive Committee and the Chairman of the Acceptance Committee, covering the year's work will be found in the annual proceedings, and! hope that all who are interested in the work of this Section will read them. This report would not be complete without expressing my appreciation of the hearty co-operation given me by the officers and members of the Executive Committee ofthis Section,the State representativee, the members of the official staff and especially our very competent and tireless Secretary, Mr. D. A. Mullen. I crave your indulgence a little longer while I make a brief resume of what I have attempted to convey to you as the two principal objects toward which we have been striving the past twelve months and toward which we hope unremitting effort will be directed hereafter. One was the °stabil hing of Clearing Houses. This Section has persistently endeavored to encourage the formation of such organizations wherever and whenever opportunity offered; they have been found to be most helpful agencies for insuring real co-operation among the bankers of the country. The other , was the extension of the system of clearing house examination' in the belicf that they are highly benef'cial to the banks directly concereed and of very great importance to the community. Originally started in Chicego, the system has proved in that city, and in many others where tried, that it is one of the best safeguards that can be thrown around the banks. Many concrete illustrations could be cited, b it suffice it to say that the employment of high grade clearing house Examiners has resulted in the prevention of tremendous losses to depositors. After a careful canvass your officers have reached the conclusion that the interests of the Association and its member banks can better be served by this Section through adhering to the policy of concentrating upan the two objects,—the establishment of more clearing houses and the employment of more examiners by clearing houses.—than in any other manner. We trust that our successors in office will pardon the earnest recommendation that they also set up these two objects as their goal. We sincerely hope that they may come even nearer to their attainment than have we who retire. In this city, sixty-nine years ago, the Clearing House had its inception in this country. The idea originated in England. where, especially in London. clearing houses had been operated most succekssfully since the latter part of the Seventeenth Century. After a very short trial here the merits of the clearing house were recognized and the bankers of New York City found in it a system that not only met their needs but offered great possibilities of service to its members. Later, similar organizations were formed in Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Chicago and many other of our larger cities. The New York Clearing House has always been very influential, it has assumed leadership in many emergencies, and through the courage and sagacity of its management, frequently has been a potent factor in averting disaster which threatened the entire country. With the constant development of industry and banking and the resultant growing importance of clearing houses, the number of which increased rapidity from year to year. it became apparent that their usefulness could be augmented by binding them together in an organization. In this manner united effort could be secured in putting into practice more expiditious methods governing the details of local and country-wide clearings. But of more consequence than that, in considering the formation of a body of national scope, was the opportunity to obtain quick and joint action on various questions pertaining to the broader principles of banking and finance. Therefore, at the annual convention of the American Bankers Association held in St. Louis in 1906, a resolution was adopted creating the Ciaring House Section, which is to-day one of the important branches of the Association. As the larger and more influential banks throughout the copntry are members of the clearing houses of the cities in which they allp lacated, there is hardly a question affecting any part of the banking business, whether it pertains to savings banks, trust companies, National or State banks, that does not in some way interest particularly the Clearing House Section. Permit me here to tell you something of the work that has been done during the past year, also something of what is planned for the coming year. This section has unceasingly advocated the adoption of the examiner system by the larger clearing houses of the country. The efficiency of the plan is shown by the highly satisfactory results attained in the many Report of the Executive Committee, Clearing House cities which already have it in operation. The examination by the clearSection, Francis Coates, Jr., Chairman. ing house examiner is not merely a verification of the assets and liabilities Following the Annual Convention. the Executive Committee of the of a bank, but a careful scrutiny of the operation of every department. In the report special mention is made of all loans,either direct or indirect, Clearing House Section held two meetings in Los Angeles last year. and to officers, directors or employees of corporations in which either officers has also held two meetings at the Spring Meeting at White Sulphur Springs or directors of the bank are interested. The report is kept in the ries of in May of this year. The Committee was formally organized at a Los Angeles Meeting on October 6th 1921 by the election of a Chairman and the eaxaminer and a copy sent to the President of the bank for the use of the directors, as well as to each member of the Clearing House Commit- Secretary, the latter office being continued by Mr. Donald A. Mullen. whose services had proven so eminentiy satisfactory during the year just tee, and the result is most wholesome. At the Los Angeles Convention, the President of the Section reported closed. During the past year, careful attention has been given by the members cities had put the sysstem of examinathat clearing houses in twenty-three of Clearing House tion into effect. During the past year. eight additional cities have done of the Executive Cammittee to the various problems work and procedure, and it is believed that marked progress has been made likewise, making a total of th'rty-one. A convincing argument as to throughout the country its inestimable value, one which I should like to emphasize, is its rein- in bringing the various Clearing House Associations stallation by the Portland, Oregon, Clearing House Association after a into closer touch with the work of the Section. This has developed a genuine spirit of co-operation and interest that is very gratifying, and has lapse of six years. made possible a material widening of the scope and the value of the work. The idea is taking root fast and the Executive C,onunittee of this section The monthly bulletin issued by our Secretary has continued to prove a feels that before the end of the year, in at least eight more cities, clearing very interesting and valuable feature. In addition to topics of general house examiners will be employed. From October 1 1921, to date, we have been instrumental in increasing news and procedure, many special features have been introduced. I menthe number of clearing house associations from 274 to 310. or a total gain tion Bulletin No. 17. "The Examiner System—a alltAtit11`41 for Guaranty for the year of 36; 33 being active and 3 inactive—the largest number ever of Deposits." and Bulletin No.18."How we consider the Examiner System." as examples that have done much to promote the Clearing House Examiner organized in any onnyear since this Section was created. To keep ow' members informed on whatever would seem to be helpful movement, and are proving a strong argument in those cities which now to associations in different actions of the country, we have issued a monthly have it under consideration. The records show that eight cities have adoptbulletin which is proving a real medium of information to clearing house ed the Examiner System during the past year, and to date, twenty-nine other cities (large and small) have the qtrstion up for consideration and scretaries and managers. In a spirit of encouragement, let me say to you that this year has been final decision. We are assured it will be installed in several of them in the the greatest in the history of the Section, and your officers and committees near future. Our Secretary and also members of the Executive Committee various believe that many cities, large and small, are just beginning to realize have given tneir personal time to the movement, in meeting with t*at this the signifcance of the Clearing House and of the Examiner System. The Associations and corresponding with others, with the result work of the Section is being strongly and directly felt in important cmtres smaller cities are evincing greater interest than heretofore and we think Many Associations not employing an Examiner, the time is coming when the clearing house system of examination will all over the country. Bureaus of Credit. Literature explaining the organization become operative in our country clearing houses as well as in groups of have installed and operation of these Bureaus have been prepared and made available borne by one city. cities where the expense is too great to be number of Associations, and in this manner likewise, his the * Many of the cities having the examiner system operate a bureau of cred- to a larger the work of the Section and its value been extended, and its inits. These bureaus proved invaluable to member banks during the critical scope of as a constructive organization felt in all lines of banking over a period which has just passed. Other cities without the examiner system fluence broad section of the country. are operating similar bureaus, the results being most gratifying. During the year a comprehensive campaign to increase the number of A special feature covering the activities of the Section this year will be Clearing House Associations has been carried on, with the result that thirtythe conferences to be held by the clearing house examiners and managers six new Associations have been formed—the banner year in the histroy Tuesday and Wednesday afternoons of this week. On Tuesday afternoon the work. at the Examiners' conference, topics pertaining to the fuller development of The distribution of forms of borrowers financial statements by the Secof the examiner system will be discussed. tion has progresssd along satisfactory lines, and their use has been widely Wednesday afternoon a meeting of all clearing house managers will be extended. This has enabled the smaller banks and small communities held at which time all formality will be put aside; giving them the oppor- 144 BANKERS' CONVENTION. to secure practical up-to-date forms at a minimum of cost. During the Standardization of Checks.—Requests for information pertaining to the past two years this service has grown into a very valuable feature of the standardized form for checks and drafts are being received from time Section's activities. to time, showing that our members are more than willing to co-operate A most valuable contribution to the work of the Section is represented with the State Secretaries Section and this Section in bringing about a by a 17 -page pocket size brochure recently prepared by our Secretary, uniform size for checks and drafts. In which is reproduced a series of six short articles on "The Clearing House Report of Bank Clearings and Total Debits.—Our Section is co-operating Idea and the Examiner System," published in October 1921 by the Chicago with the Federal Reserve Board in an effort to have all clearing houses Clearing House As.sociation. This merits the broadest possible distribution, report to the Federal Reserve Bank of their district, their total debits not only among banks and bankers but to bank patrons and the public to individual accounts weeky, so that it will be possible to build up a generally. It clearly defines the status of the Clearing House and the record of statistics which may in the future be used for comparative purClearing House Department of Examination, and recites in telling terms poses. It was the sense of the meeting of the Executive Committee at how through their perfect functioning in times of severe stress, Chicago White Sulphur Springs last May to ask the clearing houses to report not and our country as a whole, was saved from serous financial collapse. It is only bank debits to the Federal Reserve banks of their district but to a testimonial to "Safety First" that should be in the hands of every banker give their weekly bank clearings to all financial publications wanting and every bank patron, and might well be recommended to Clearing House them. In addition we have asked the clearing houses to compile their associationsfor general distribution over the counters of their member banks. total debits to banks and bankers for their own use. Other important activities may be mentioned as follows: Universal Numerical System.—Our Numerical Committee at the present •IA—Arrangement with all Clearing Houses to re-report not only their total time is endeavoring to work out a plan which they hope will provide for debits to individual accounts to the Federal Reserve Bank of their a uniform method of designating branch banks by a numerical number district, but also to give total clearings to newspapers and financial in those cities where branch banking has become so popular. publications requesting same. In addition, the Manager of each District Numbers.—Our Numerical Committee at the present time Association to tabulate and retain for his own use the total debits has under consideration the matter of providing district numbers for all to banks and bankers. This in order to preserve the comparative checks of member and non-member banks which would facilitate the figures of total clearings over a period of years, during which time handling of them by the Federal Reserve banks and their members. figures of total debits are being compiled for comparative purposes. No Protest Symbol Plan.—At the present time we are working in conIB—Continued effort to effect the adoption of a no protest minimum junction with the Federal Reserve Board in an effort to adopt a uniform acceptable to the Federal Reserve Board and the American Bankers No Protest Minimum Amount. The Section has advocated the $2& Association. minimum which has only partially been adopted by the banks of the 10—To enlarge the Numerical System whereby branch banks may be country. A campaign is about to be started in an endeavor to have the given transit numbers. The mater now rests with the Numerical institutions in favor of the $10 minimum, adopt the $20 amount. Committee,in whose hands the decision lies. Finances.—The appropriation granted the Section for the year 1921-22 D--To have district numbers printed on all checks so as to facilitate was $9,600. During the year $110 was received from the sale of our . the handling ofthem by the Federal Reserve banks and their member s condensed financial statement forms and $116from the sale of our numerical in their respective districts. This now rests with the Numerical keys, making a total of $9,826 for the year. The disbursements for the Committee for action. year amounted to $9,257 22, leaving a credit balance on hand at the close E—Extension of the idea of County Unit Clearing Houses. of the fiscal year of $568 78. F—Extension of the use of Clearing House symbols. The following activities are recommended for the coming year: 0—Assisting in the adoption of standard sizes of checks and drafts. That as a Section we again encourage in every was possible the organizaH—Working on a plan for the adoption of a uniform method in the tion of new clearing houses, city, county and country, with special efforts calculation of interest on deposits, making proper allowance for time on the county organizat on plan. , required to collect certain items. This is in the hands of a comThe every effort possible be made to further the extension of the clearing mittee composed of one member from each Federal Reserve District. house examiner system which is working to the satisfaction of the bankers The full usefulness of the Clearing House Section cannot be exerted in those cities where it is now in operation. To co-operate with the State Secretaries Section in every way possible other than through the co-operation of the Clearing House members, and our experience this year has convinced us that the strongest co-operation to bring about a standard form of check and draft. To co-operate with the American Acceptance Council In the further comes through the personal contact of member with member. The actual work of the Clearing House is initiated by its individual members, its development of the Acceptance idea. To co-operate with the Federal Reserve Board to the end that a uniform officers, its Manager or its Examiner, and a strong effort has been made to bring these active elements of the various Clearing Houses of the country amount for the no-protest symbol may be adopted. To bring about a uniform method in the calculation of Interest on detogether at this year's Convention for a real "get together." To this end we have arranged,in addition to our usual Convention program,a special posit accounts in the United States. To bring about if possible a uniform plan of numbers which can be meeting of Clearing Hcuse Examiners and a separate special meeting of Clearing House Managers. The officers of the Section have made a adopted by the banks of the country in designating their branches. To bring about a system whereby all banks will be given district numbers. personal canvas of each of the Clearing Houses in the country and of Monthly bulletin. their members, and also of all Clearing House Managers and Clearing House Examiners and have extended a pressing invitation to each to attend these meetings. They are to be entirely informal "get together" sessions, Report of Resolutions Committee. at which will be submitted and openly discussed (no set papers or speeches) Mr. McNally: "Whereas. The Chicago Clearing House and its member the various phases of the work of the Clearing Houses and of the Examiners, as they are conducted in the many sections of the country. Suggestions of banks have prepared an excellent series of articles setting forth the relations of banks to each other and to the public in Clearing House Co-operation topics for discussion have been invited from all Sections, and the results in sight are indeed gratifying. We expect to have the best attended meetings and Regulations, which articles are of very great value in informing the In the history of the Section, and the discussions will be along practical con- public on these subjects, and "TVhereas, The Clearing House Section has printed these articles in structive lines, participated in by Examiners, Managers and Bankers, and we hope through this means to insert the entering wedge to a field of larger pamphlet form for ready distribution; therefore be it "Resolved. That this Section recommend to the various Clearing Houses activity and larger usefulness, and to bring about a feeling of co-operation in the country and to their member banks, that the circulation of these so close as to make each member feel that this Section is his Section. and that he has available a service that will respond promptly and competently pamphlets be made as wide as possible, and the depositors thus informed of the protective functions of the Clearing House. • to his demand on any question of Clearing House procedure. "It Is Further Resolved, That this meeting extend its very sincere thanks Respectfully submitted, and appreciation to all those who, by their interest and efforts on behalf (Signed) FRANCIS COATES, Jr., Chairman. of the Section, have contributed so largely to the success of this meeting. "Be It Further Resolved, That this Section extend to the State representative of Clearing House Sections its hearty thanks and appreciation for its Report of the Secretary of the Clearing House Section. co-operation which it has given the Section during the year. "And Be It Further Resolved. That its special thanks be extended to John D. A. Mullen. R. Washburn, its President, under whose direction so much constructive Following the annual convention held in Los Angeles last year, your work has been accomplished during his tenure of office. Secretary endeavored to carry out the wishes of the members of the Exec"And Be It Further Resolved, That the spacial thanks and appreciation utive Committee, by carrying on a strenuous campaign to interest as of the Section be extended to D. A. Mullen, its Secretary, througn whose many of the smaller cities as possible in establishing clearing house asso- intelligent interest, conscientious efforts and hard work the objects of ous ciations as well as endeavoring to have those cities which are contemplating Section have been carried forward with the result that the Section closes the installation of the clearing house examiner system, adopt it. Our its work for the fiscal year with a record of still greater accomplishment than efforts have been quite successful due to the hearty co-operation of the ever before in its history. officers and members of our Executive Committee and the State Repre"We desire to express our sincere appreciation to the Committees in sentatives of the Section. charge of arrangements for the courtesies extended this Section. All the New Clearing Houses.—During the year thirty-six new clearing house details of the meeting have been looked after in the most painstaking manassociations were organized and admitted to active membershpi in the ner and we would expecially thank those New York bankers who have Section, increasing the active members from 274, the number reported been assigned to look after the arrangements on behalf of our Section. We cannot let the occasion Pass without thanking Dr. Burrell and Messrs. at the Los Angeles Convention, to 310. Clearing House Examiner System.—During the past year, a special McHugh and Loree for their timely and inspiring addresses. We feel that effort was made to not only increase the number of clearing house asso- work of this Section should not stop with matters of particular concern ciations but to interest as far as possible the associations that had under to the banks in our respective lccalities, but that in addition it is for us to consideration the installation of the examiner system. Our efforts have address ourselves as best we can to the solution of problems, both national and international, that are confronting the world to-day. met with a large degree of success, as eight cities have installed this system of examination this year, increasing the number to thirty-one. At the Respectfully submitted: 0. HOWARD WOLFE, present time twenty-nine cities have this under consideration and I believe CARL W.ALLENDOERFER. to those JNO.R.DOWNING, before the end of the next year a goodly number will be added R. F. McNALLY, Chairman.'' The resolution was adopted. operation. cities which already have it in The pamphlet that Mr. McNally referred to may be had at that table. Acceptances.—The Acceptance Committee which functions through the Clearing House Section, has been operating with the American Ac- at the right of the centre door, I hope every one of you will take that ceptance Council in its campaign for a better understanding of the accept- one and read it. Mr. T. H. Brougham: I think, Mr. Chairman, that the resolutions ance practice and has without a doubt performed a real service to the are especially in order. The Clearing House Committee, the clearing banking fraternity of the country. Condensed Financial Statement Form.—Interest in the condensed financial house examiners pay more attention, and do the people more good than statement form recommended by the Section has been increasing during the all the examiners outside. I know something about banking, and not past year. Your Secretary has received hundreds of requests for these so much about clearing houses, but I know that when the clearing houseforms, which are becoming more widely used by the banks throughout the examiner goes to a bank to examine it, he examines the whole bank, and he will not only tell you and give you suggestions, but he will come back country. CLEARING HOUSE SECTION. out and ask you how in a week or two, if it is necessary, and help you notes. you have succeeded in collecting some of those delinquent the banking business If there is anything in America that operates against the gentlemen have been talking It is neglect. The stumbling block that and some about here for some time is negligence. A bank is organized He suggests man with more stock than others is elected president of it. men running that the cashier. The cashier is elected and there are two learn somebank; the directors get around once a month. Some of them consequently thing about the proceedings of the bank and others don't, and get nearly all the friends of the president and the friends of the cashier or friendship in the loans, which is not right. Friendship in banking, in banking you are not there for love, anything, is hard to overcome, but that you are there for business, to look after the interests of the people to be are your customers and to take care of the money deposited, and in shape at all times to pay it back, if they want it. if I am not a very old banker. I would have been an older bank men it wasn't for the troube that they had forty years ago. I have had come and say to me. "Mr. Brougham, come down to our bank and buy some stock." I would say, "Well. I would be glad to do so but I haven't more than four or five thousand dollars that I can invest in stock, and I would like to get ten." I later saw one of those men come out in front of his bank and shed tears, asking the people to go away, lie said. "If you insist on drawing all your money out now, this bank will break and you will break. But to pay if you will be a little bit sensible and give us time, we will be able every cent. The bank is in fine condition, better than many of you think, but we can't cash our notes at present." Thank the Lord, with the new system of currency, the sectional banks have placed things in a little different position and now if a man will Just be careful and get notes that are good, there is no need of his breaking at all, there is no need of a panic, and no need for begging the people to go away. take Instead of getting them out there and begging them to go away, the your notes and go up to the bank and get the cash on them—and every careful institution anywhere bank progresses as it ought to, and as would progress. 145 Thank you, gentlemen. President Washburn: I know that a number of the points suggested by Mr. Brougham are going to be thoroughly discussed then. -morrow afternoon will the discussion Mr. Coates: In that meeting to be purely clearing house examination matters or clearing house matters? President Washburn: They are going to try to divide the matters between clearing house examination on Tuesday afternoon, and clearing house management on Wednesday afternoon. on Wednesday? Mr. Coates: Clearing house matters will be discussed President Washburn: Yes. Report of the Nominating Committee—Installation and Remarks of Incoming President, Jos. Ringold. report as follows: Mr. Crandall: The Nominating Committee begs to , Francis Coates, For President, Jos. Ringold, Denver; for Vice-President , terms expiring 1925, Jr., Cleveland; for members of Executive Committee ia; for memJohn Downing, Louisville, and 0. Howard Wolfe, Philadelph E. MacGregor, Minbers of Executive Committee, term expiring 1923, R. neapolis. that the report of Upon motion made and duly seconded, it was voted y. the Nominating Committee be accepted unanimousl ballot for the ticket. The Secretary was authorized to cast a unanimous tireless workers we President Washburn: One of the most energetic and of Denver. have in this Section is our next President, Mr. Jos. Ringold and no one is more No one is better fitted to be President of this Section He is so well known entitled to it than our good friend, Jim. Ringold. brief. I will introduce to you all that I will make this introduction quite Mr. Jos. Ringold, your new President. much. This is President-Elect Ringold: I certainly thank you very This Association is one of the honors that I cannot express in words. I have been connected with it in some way very near to me in every way. s have done or other for a number of years and I know that my predecessor it is my a wonderful work. With the aid of our executive committee, future. I thank you, gentle hope that we shall progress very greatly in the men. NATIONAL BANK DIVISION AMERICAN BANKERS' ASSOCIATION Seventh Annual Meeting, Held at New York City, October 4, 1922. INDEX TO NATIONAL BANK PROCEEDINGS The Future of American Business, James S. Alexander Page 146 Problems of the Hour, Frank A. Munsey 149 Remarks of Pr sident John G. Lonsdale of the National Bank Division 152 Report of President of the National Bank Division Page 153 Report of Executive Committee of National Bank Section_ _ 154 Resolutions on Branch Banking, &c 154 Report of Nominating Committee—Officers for New Year 155 The Future of American Business By JAMES S. ALEXANDER, President, National Bank of Commerce in New York. This is the fourth annual meeting of the American BankWhile there are many factors that would have to be ers Association that has assembled since the close of the weighed in any complete appraisal of the present situation, Great War. At the time of the first meeting we had entered I must limit myself to a consideration of the three factors upon perhaps the most extraordinary and abnormal period that throw most light upon our present outlook. These are: of business activity in American history. When the second 1. The readjustment that has recently taken place in our meeting took place the crisis was already upon us. At the domestic financial conditions and in the volume of internal time of the third meeting, namely that of a year ago, al- business transactions. though we believed that we had passed the worst aspects of 2. The labor situation. the depression, there were still many maladjustments to be 3. The condition of affairs across the water. corrected. Since then some very marked changes have taken Let us look at each of these factors in turn. place in our domestic business situation and we now have, For many months we have been watching every evidence for the first time since the war, a condition of affairs that of changing financial and business conditions with great gives us some substantial basis for a consideration of what care, and month by month the experts in many branches of may be called the normal trend of American business in the industry and finance have been reporting the evidences of imfuture. proving conditions. The larger facts contained in these reWhen I refer to the normal trend of business, however, I ports may be summarized as follows: do not mean to suggest the precise condition of industry that From the financial point of view the credit stringency has prevailed before the war. We have many new factors to passed and frozen loans to an important extent have been consider, some of which are favorable and some of which thawed out. Inter-bank accommodation among Federal Reare not. We have a banking system that is much superior to serve banks, which stood at 267 millions on Oct. 22 1920, deour pre-war system; and we occupy relatively a much more clined to nil in December 1921. The amount of Federal Refavorable position in the world's capital market. On the serve notes has been substantially reduced. From about other hand, we are to carry on business under a load of taxa- three and one-third billion dollars in December 1920 the agtion that in our pre-war days would have appeared unbearable. gregate amount of notes in actual circulation had been reThere are other factors, some of which, perhaps, have both duced to a little over two billions in the early part of Sepfavorable and unfavorable bearings, such as the existence of tember 1922, a decrease of 35%. The Federal Reserve ratio our great public debt, the influence of treasury financing is now above 78%, whereas in May 1920 it was below upon the money market, the possession of nearly one-half of 43%. the world's stock of monetary gold, many new aspects in the For more than a year and a half up to quite recently, interrelation between labor and capital, and by no means the least est rates were declining. From the abnormal interest rates in importance, the removal from the world's market, perhaps prevailing for some time after the culmination of the crisis, for many years to come, of the buying capacity of many mil- rates fell until they attained comparatively low levels. The lions of people. renewal rates for call loans, which ranged from 6 to 10% These factors must have a very great•bearing upon the fu- less than two years ago, have ranged within the last few ture of American business, and it may be that not within a months from 2% to 5%. At the former date, also, 60-day considerable number of years will business return to the time loans were made at 7 to 8% as compared with 3% to same relative conditions that prevailed before the war. We 4% during August 1922. shall probably work into an industrial and trade position In the security market there has been a more or less steady that may be called our new normal. Whether that new nor- rise in the prices of stocks and bonds since June 1921, movemal will be represented by a volume of business relatively ments which have been accompanied by a large increase in less than our pre-war volume (after, of course, allowing for the volume of trading. In one list of 40 bonds, the price adgrowth of population), or whether it will be represented by vance has been about 25%, and in a list of 40 stocks, the price the same or indeed by a relatively greater volume, will, I be- advance has been about 50%. In the field of commodity prices the general level of wholelieve, depend upon whether we shall broaden our outlook commensurately with the size of the great problems and the sale prices, while still uncertain, has become decidedly less great opportunities before us. unstable and the maladjustments existent at the culminaHowever that may be, I believe that the facts of the situa- tion of the price rise in May 1920 and at the end of the price tion, although exceedingly complex, are now more definitely decline in May 1921 havd now been in important part corbefore us than at any time since the close of the war, and we rected. Of importance in this connection is the situation are in a position to take a long view to the future. with regard to the prices of farm products. Although the NATIONAL BANK DIVISION. 147 And lastly, many maladjustments due to the war or the price of wheat and some other agricultural prices are lower to agricultural immediate post-armistice period have already been corthan a year ago, the price level with regard The large stocks of special types of goods that reproducts as a whole shows a substantial improvement, as rected. especially noteworthy im- cently caused stagnation in the markets have been largely compared with a year ago. An distributed or consumed, and the disproportionate developproVbeinent is seen in the prices of metals. of business, although ment in our capital equipment is being steadily corrected. With regard to the general volume In short, we have made much real progress in recent the coal and rail strikes have tended to reduce car loadings, in the loadings of merchan- months, and in many ways we are in a position to handle there has been reported a gain a much larger volume of business. dise and miscellaneous freight, and in the total car loadings, Having recognized these facts, however, we are still left over the corresponding period of a year ago. Employment have we of a furincreased, and, in isolated lines, there has been reported with the question: what sure indications has for the ther advance? In reply to this question, our attention has an actual shortage of experienced men. The indices striking developments in general volume of business indicate a rise from 25% below frequently been called to several in July 1922. special branches of business, such as the very active stock normal in July 1921 to about 10% below normal industry and This growth in the volume of business has also been reflected market, the large turnover in the automobile the first six the extraordinary activity in building and other construcin an increased volume of bank clearings during tion, which in turn has brought an abundance of business to months of this year. noted. In the lumber, cement and other allied industries. In special industries particular activity has been These activities have, without doubt, contributed very steel, the output of ingots increased markedly during the the most first six months of this year, and the unfilled orders of the much to the present improved condition and for Corporation at the end of August part they have represented sound business and financial deUnited States Steel conditions, amounted to nearly six million tons, as compared to about velopment. As barometers of future business February 1922, the low point. Railway however, some of them ought not to be interpreted in just four million tons in to interpret siminet earnings have shown some increases, especially during the same way as we have been accustomed and improved earnings have been lar activities when recovering from former depressions. the first half of this year; in part by the same noted in numerous industrial lines. Throughout this same While the present activities are caused has enjoyed marked activity. factors of progress that have stimulated similar activities period the automobile industry are caused by There has been a building revival—one of the most note- on previous occasions, in no small part they ally with regard to residences extraordinary and temporary factors that cannot with conworthy in our history—especi in proportion to and public construction. As a consequence, the condition of fidence be said to reflect general prosperity especially the cement in- the volume of activity. While all of the present forms of unthe building material industries, usual activity cannot be interpreted in the same way, it is dustry and the lumber.industry, has been favorable. contributed to comparatively possible to indicate the difference between normal and abSeveral other factors have optimistic indications. The forecast of good crops has been normal activity by reference to one industry, namely conIn most cases justified by recent reports, and finally, not- struction. During the recent months we have been witnessing one of withstanding labor difficulties, there has been noted a denumerous quarters in the course the most marked periods of activity in construction in our velopment of confidence in history. An activity of similar volume in normal times of recent months. These, then, are the facts that have been gathered by many would be rightly interpreted as an indication of a considerinvstigators in the various branches of industry and finance, able prosperity. It would probably mean the extension of and that have been set forth as the leading indications of the the plants of industrial companies in response to, or in antitrend of business toward a better level. On the basis of cipation of, a marked advance in the demand for their prodthese facts just what are we in all due caution justified in ucts in excess of present capacity; preparation for increased transportation facilities to carry the increased volume of concluding? In the first place, the financial situation which some time business; enlarged warehouse and other business capacity; ago was causing no little concern, has unquestionably and finally, it would mean new residential construction cleared. In general, banking conditions in this country are made possible, in part, at least, by new earnings or reasonexcellent, and we have every reason to believe that what- ably anticipated increases in earnings. In short, it would ever sound business may be developed in the future can be indicate for the most part an expansion relatively beyond properly financed. This clearly presents sound reason for our earlier development. The construction activities of today are no doubt in some part stimulated by these so-called optimism. extreme price dislocations which normal factors of growth. To an important extent, however, In the second place, the up to very recently obtained in some branches of industry they are a reflex from the unusual conditions of under-conhave, to an important extent, disappeared. We still face struction left by the war and post-armistice period. Just how much this activity is the result of municipal and uncertainties concerning the future of the general price the final effects of our other public work rendered imperative by the void left by level, and until we know more about huge gold supply, the final effect of erratic European com- cessation of normal building during the war, and just how petition and the trend of specific wage levels, we cannot feel much it is stimulated by the tax-exemption of municipal complete confidence with regard to general price movements, and State securities, it is impossible to say. It is also imor, indeed, with regard to some special price movements. possible to know just how much of it is stimulated by the Nevertheless, we are justified in saying that the price situa- foresight of business men who are preparing for enlarged business in the future, and just how much of it, on the other tion offers hope for business improvement. In the third place, the volume of business, which, acoord- hand, represents nothing more than an extraordinary effort ing to one of our best estimates, usually drops less than 20% to make good the housing and other construction shortage below normal in businses depressions, but which dropped left by the war. It is clear, however, that a sufficient num25% in the recent depression, has now gradually increased ber of unusual factors enter into the present building boom until at present it is only 10% below normal. Here again we to caution us against attributing to it the usual significance in times of ordinary business recovery. are upon substantial ground. Before we can with full confidence interpret unusual acfourth place, there has occurred a considerable reIn the of returning prosperity, we must adjustment for the better in the great basic industry of tivities as sure indications namely agriculture. It is true that the prices of find such activities springing principally from the general deAmerica, for increased productive capacity and not largely from some products are very far from satisfactory, and that mand situation there exists uncertainty as to the urgent demand of absolute necessity caused by previbecause of the foreign retarded growth in normal lines of industry. Of the outlook for some of our farmers. The position of agri- ously however, has undoubtedly improved over course, an extraordinary construction activity, whether it culture, as a whole, springs from destruction by war, flood or fire, or from dethat of a year ago. 148 BANKERS' CONVENTION. layed industry due to war, may be a very wholesome sign. It may be considered perhaps as the growing pains of the It helps to correct the maladjustment and to fill in the unindustrial world. fortunate gaps in our equipment. The activity, however, But these more or less chronic and for the most part relasprings from a past loss—not from a new gain. tively less important difficulties are not what I have in While, as I pointed out a moment ago, no two of these ex- mind. I refer to the extraordinary problems arising from the amples of extraordinary activity recently developed can be belief of certain laboring groups that they can permanently interpreted in the same way, it is to be noted that back of exact from the community something approaching the unmost of them are to be found factors of such extraordinary usual wages rendered possible by the confusion of wartime or temporary character that in part at least differentiate and the immediate post-armistice conditions. them from apparently similar activities in normal times. We now know that the feverish activity of the post-armisUntil we know more about the final effects of these ex- tice period was abnormal. It brought huge profits to some traordinary activities, I believe that we are justified in ex- enterpris es and speculators and extraordinary wages to ercising due caution against reading into them a meaning many laborers. These wages and profits were possible that may not be there. largely because of the crying needs of European countries Properly interpreted, however, these examples of extraor- following the war, and because of the confusion in this coundinary activity do point to better conditions. In addition to try during the same period. But in many ways this activity these special factors there are numerous other indications was not a healthy condition for business and it is to be of a very considerable activity that do suggest a readjust- doubted whether in the main it brought permanent benefit ment more nearly to normal capital relations and in many either to the employers or to the employees. In any case, wises to a more or loss steady improvement in the volume of that time is gone and there is no chance of its returning. As business. In looking over the whole field of domestic activ- a permanen t policy it is impossible to pay such extraordinary ity, therefore, I believe that we are justified in saying that wages unless labor efficiency is to be increased correspondthe outlook for business is clearly for the better. ingly. To recognize that fundamental conditions are right for a We have had some important wage readjustments, but considerable further recovery, and to say that we are well there must be further readjustments before the wages of on the way to something approaching a normal volume of some can bear a more nearly normal relation to the quantity business is not quite the same as saying that we are assured and quality of the service rendered. Wage earners cannot of a speedy return to one of our pre-war periods of pros- permanen tly receive more than they produce and all temperity. It is this second question, I take it, that is of most porarily successful attempts to gain excessive wages serve Interest to all of us. Into it, however, enter many special only to deprive other workers in the community (through factors, the most important of which are the outlook for the the means of high prices) of part of their justly earned labor situation and the condition of affairs across the Income. water. But the present labor problem is by no means one-sided. It The immediate effect of the coal, railroad and other strikes is equally disastrous to the community for employers to take undoubtedly has been to present serious obstacles to current advantag e of the slack business periods to reduce the wages business development and the most serious consequences of and working conditions below those justified by the condition them are perhaps yet to be met. It would be a mistake to of the industry. There is much readjustment still to be made underestimate the evils of these difficulties. However, the in the labor situation and I think that we must admit that aspect of the labor problem that appeals to me as of greatest the outlook for our domestic business prosperity will depend significance, is the question as to how much more labor dif- in no small degree upon the breadth of view with which ficulty we must face before we can finally settle down to both employers and employees face the coming and necescomplete recovery. sary readjustments. The present labor difficulties are in large part the result The labor situation, however, is right at our door and we of the effort of industry to readjust itself in the face of the have the dire significance of its continuation borne in upon many complicating factors arising from the war, the post- us daily. Our chances of giving this queston the earnest armistice boom and the depression. In these difficulties we attention which it deserves are much greater than the are not alone. Since the war such problems have had to be chances that we shall give adequate attention to other great met in every great industrial country. Indeed, industrial questions which, although no less serious in their bearings unrest has caused such great concern in some countries as upon our future trade, appear more remote and less direct. seriously to raise the question in the minds of industrial I shall turn, therefore, for a moment to some of these indirect leaders and bankers whether those countries could hope in factors, namely those arising in connection with the Eurothe future to compete in world trade as effectively as before pean situation. th war. In this respect England has probably suffered more Gentlemen, the time has passed when any one looking to than any other country, and there appears no doubt that the future of the business of America can ignore the rest of much of her present difficulty is quite as much due to her the world. I know that there are those who advocate rerecent unfortunate labor problem as to other extraordinary stricting our attention very largely to our own affairs, and conditions left by the war. who believe that the future prosperity of America is largely But England appears for the present, at least, to have locked up in our own domestic trade. The home market arsolved part of her most serious labor difficulties. At very gument, advanced 100 years ago, may have had much to supgreat cost, to be sure, both to English industries and to the port it at that time. Even then, however, it was the subject laborers themselves, the latter at last have learned that the of much debate. But conditions have changed since the year Industrial efficiency necessary to England's recovery of her 1820. previous position in world trade cannot be maintained in For many years before the war the whole trend of Amerithe face of constant labor difficulties. can business had been away from the development of a selfIn this connection the question arises whether we shall sufficient state. The developments of the war and the also have to go through such a costly series of labor difficul- changed economic and financial status of other great industies before we can settle down to real recovery. There is trial and capitalistic nations, have added tremendo us impemuch evidence that many laborers do not yet understand the tus to a movement that has extended our lines of economic conditions necessary to a return to a more nearly normal activity farther and farther into other countries. To my business development. mind this movement has now been carried so far as to leave I would not wish to suggest that complete industrial peace the importance of a world-wide economic policy no longer a is essential to our prosperity. We have had strikes and lock- debatable question. outs ever since this country became a great industrial nation. But when I mention our dependence upon the rest of the At times we have had very serious labor difficulties and yet world I do not refer only to the volume of our export trade. for the most part we have prospered. A certain amount of To be sure, the volume of that trade is a matter of great conlabor controversy and readjustment is apparently inevitable. cern to us. It must increase; and I hope we are going to NATIONAL BANK DIVISION. 149 our in France, and important capital readjustment has occurred take the steps that will cause it to increase. Any view of in several other countries. Excessive surplus stocks of goods foreign economic relations that would attempt to appraise ed and abof that trade, in many parts of the world have been liquidat their importance solely in terms of the volume financial liquidation has occurred, and the sorbed; private however, must be singularly lacking in a comprehension of public finances of some States have been put upon a sounder the many important foreign factors entering into our own basis. After all of the evidences of improvement have beeen business welfare. there exist into a dom- enumerated, however, the fact still remains that As an outgrowth of the war we have been lifted readjustment necessary to world ble gaps in the inating position in the world's capital relations. This change, lamenta . in itself, is bound to bring a corresponding change in many trade recovery In looking to basic conditions that affect the future of currents that follow capital movements. The of the trade n business, therefore, we are confronted with two change has thrown upon us a responsibility that we cannot America On the one hand, we find an abundance of evievade whether we wish to or not. Moreover, this change sets of facts. ns dence that very substantial improvement over the worst pemust powerfully react upon our domestic business conditio on has taken place at home. In addition and upon our important economic policies. Wherever we riod of the depressi debusi- to this we find to a somewhat less degree, but still to a turn in our examination of the elements that make for encouragement, a readjustty in our own domestic affairs, gree that offers much basis for ness stability or instabili and financial conditions in many other. whether it be that of the capital supply, the gold or currency ment in commercial find a condition of affairs levels, or the future of trade countries. On the other hand, we questions, the future of price obEuropean countries that presents definite restrictions at home or in other countries, we find new eco- In certain of world trade. In to consider the bearing of stacles to anything like the full recovery nomic conditions that compel us to be view of these two sets of conditions, what may be said movements abroad. from the point of the outlook for American business? In fine, whether we view the question men I believe that there are open to American business view of the increase of foreign influence upon our own afof improvement e upon foreign af- two courses. By relying upon indications fairs, or the growth of our own influenc have had, by developing confidence and fairs, we are confronted with the fact that in the future we such as we already certain additional than ever before faith in the future and by bringing about must consult world-wide activities far more somewhat difficult possible character). (of a In our history. Let us look for a moment, therefore, at the readjustments help of I believe that we may, within ourselves, and by the situation abroad. to us in any circumstances, admust come We have had the greatest war in all history. Great and what foreign trade development in this country and attain a terrible as have been the effects of some of our previous vance business ty. wars, in the loss of productive workers, in the destruction of moderate prosperi If, however, we content ourselves with a modest recovery capital and in the diminution of the buying power of the take a position which will constitute a signal reworld, they are dwarfed into comparative unimportance by we shall treat from the spirit of enterprise that has animated this the effects of the Great War of 1914-18. a hundred years; and that has made of Four years have passed since the armistice, and yet we country throughout to n of affairs America a great progressive nation. We Americans, up still find in a widely extended area a conditio satisfied with mediocre have never been that might suggest to a stranger that the war had only just the last few months, to take great risks; and, if come to an end. Many millions of people living in the terri- results. We have been willing have been detery powerful States are reduced to a pitifully necessary, to suffer great losses; but we tory of formerl s of millions mined to enter upon great undertakings and to hope for low state of economic well-being, and hundred s. have had their buying power drastically reduced. The loss great accomplishment The second course which I believe to be open to American of these markets has directly or indirectly impeded the reto something approaching the old opporcovery of many of the nations that in the past have pur- business is a return the old rate of progress and a real prosperity. Never tunities, chased American products. a time in the history of America when If the recovery of world trade depended only upon the re- before has there been a predominant position in world finance, such pairing of physical losses due to the war, we might properly she occupied The never before has there been a time when other countries so expect a much more rapid recovery in the near future. . The urgently needed our products. fact is, however, that we face an entirely new problem But in order to grasp the opportunities before us the rest of so-called treaties of war has been followed by a series - of the world must be started upon a normal course. If we interfer peace, the carrying out of which involves greater in the Americans are to take advantage of our new position in ence with economic currents than any previous act world affairs and if we are to have conditions in which we history of industry. position, than three years since can make the mose of our new international capital Notwithstanding the lapse of more play our part in the readjustment of appreciating it is essential that we the signing of these treaties, we are only just been erected world conditions. the full significance of the barriers that have I believe that the outlook for American business, therefore, of the world's currents of trade. against the normal trend men are light new evidences depends largely upon whether American business Every passing month, however, brings to a relatively smaller role political going to be contented in playing of the obstructing character of the economic and c treaties of peace. than before the war, to restrict their international economi changes left by the war and dictated by the restricted market modest place relations and to accept within a It is true that a considerable readjustment has taken since the close profits, or whether they are going to broaden their views to In some of the belligerent nations of Europe countries and in the new vision that is demanded by present problems and of the war as well as in neutral European of business decline in opportunities, and to assume their part in the great work other parts of the world since the drastic rehabilitation has taken place readjustment that is yet to be done. the beginning of 1920. Much Problems of the Hour By FRANK A. MtJNsEy, Owner, New York "Herald" and New York "Sun." 's telegram Mr. President and Gentlemen: Mr. Lonsdale ion expressed the belief inviting me to speak at this Convent helpful to that I might say something to you that would be discussion of the busibanking and helpful to business. My the New ness and industrial outlook for 1922, published in York "Herald" on the first day of the year, seems to have been largely responsible for the impression. That forecast was substantially optimistic. This is as far as it went. The basic conditions on which sound prosperity rests were not yet right, but they were improving. We had 150 BANKERS' CONVENTION. put 20 months of retrenchment between us and the wild orgy You may very well fancy that it is not altogether clear to of inflation and speculation of 1919. My purpose was to me why the rebound from depressi ng conditions of eight show that we were making progress toward better times, and months ago should have come on so fast. No, it isn't altothat what we needed was confidence. People never get very gether clear to me. I question if the underlying conditio ns far, never accomplish very much, while enshroud ed in gloom. are right to sustain the premature boom of recent months. Confidence is necessary to progress, but confidence governed It may very well be, however, that I am wrong. To be right by facts and sound reasoning is the only confiden ce worth all the while is to be a drone or to own the world. while. But the discussion of finance and economics and immediWe are a mercurial people. We are either up in the clouds ate business is not my purpose to-day. You are all steeped in or down in the depths. When business is good, industri es are finance, in economics, in the science of banking, and what humming, securities booming, there is no limit to our op- you don't know about these will be told to you by other timism. We are temperamentally incapable of seeing that speakers. the period of high pressure activities cannot go on forever. The labor problem is one of our most pressing problem s And so, too, we are temperamentally incapable of seeing any just now. The country hasn't enough labor to arry on its light and hope ahead when we are plunged from the bright work, hasn't enough skilled mechanics, especially in the heights of booming prosperity into the valley of gloom. This building trades, to carry on its work. does not apply to all Americans. It does not apply to farWith wages advancing, lower living costs are not possible. seeing, sound-reasoning men, but it is true of the American In the steel mills and in the textile centres wages have had people in the large bulk. a sensational advance, and this advance was compulsory One of the soundest pieces of work ever done in this coun- because of the shortage of labor. try, one of the most necessary pieces of work ever done in In both fields of activity it was a question of bidding high this country, was done by the banks in 1920, in calling a halt for labor or shutting down the plants. Labor, like commodi to speculation and reckless expansion. ties, is subject to the law of supply and demand. The wage It called for fine courage to jam on the brakes as you gen- of labor will never come down until the supply exceeds the tlemen jammed them on at that time. We were running wild demand. with wide open throttle; we were running straight for a The law passed by Congress soon after the war restricting smash that would have paralyzed the nation and stunned immigration is wholly responsible for the present labor the world, when, under the able leadership of Mr. W. P. G. shortage. If this law had never gone on the statute books, Harding, Governor of our Reserve Bank System, you warned If our portals had remained as free to immigration since the the country that it must immediately begin slowing down, war as they were before the war and as they have been and you applied the remedy that meant slowing down. throughout our history, our inflated wage scale would have There was no other way to save the situation. There was been well liquidated before now. no other force, not even the Government itself, that could That wages would not deflate when there was a shortage have saved the situation. Industries cannot run without of labor should have been clear to the Washington statesmoney fuel, business cannot function without money fuel, men. It should have been clear to them because of the fact speculation falls flat without money fuel; and since the that America does not produe its own labor, and never has banks held the money of the country they alone were in a produced its own labor since the formation of the Governposition to initiate and carry through retrenchment. ment. England, France, Germany, Italy and all the counIn my January 1 discussion of conditions this year, as in tries of the Old World produce their own labor. They do my January 1 discussion of conditions last year, I painted no not depend upon foreign labor to do their work. Our only alluring picture of business. I saw no boom in the offing, domestic labor, outside of the rural sections, is colored, and and did not wish to see one,for conditions were not yet right. In the North that is wholly negligible. There isn't enough of What I wished to see, and regret that we have not seen, It to make a dent in the situation. is a gradual but thorough liquidation in our producti on costs We produce no labor in America for the reason that there and in distribution costs, a general liquidation in house rents is no sympathy between the American public school and the and other living expenses. With this liquidation we should pick and the ax. Put a boy through an American public have a sound foundation on which to build business and to school, whether he be the son of an immigrant laborer or the look with justifiable confidence for a good run of prosperit y. son of an old line American, the result is the same. He will But instead of lower production costs, we have gone to have nothing to do with labor. higher production costs; instead of liquidation in the wage And what is true of the American boy is true of the Ameriscale, we have inflated the wage scale; instead of lower can girl, in respect to service. This spirit is fine, admirhousing costs, we are compelled to maintain, if not to in- able. It is the spirit that has made America what she is— crease the present housing cost. the richest and strongest nation in the world. But it leaves In this situation are the underlying conditions right for a us without labor of our own and almost wholly dependent on run of sound business prosperity, and have they been such foreign labor to do the plain, simple work that only human as to justify the bull market for the last six months? Isn't hands can do. the business revival largely in response to the cry of empty We must mave a sub-stratum of plain labor. Modern life shelves? If so, will the activity last? and modern civilization cannot exist without it. We must And how about foreign trade? With our high cost of pro- have mechanics, carpente rs, plumbers, plasterers, bricklayduction, there is and can be no such thing as foreign trade ers and painters to build housing quarters for our people. for America, except in raw materials, in foodstuffs, and in Modern civilization cannot exist without this skilled labor, certain specialties. Production costs that make competition and the present shortage of it is so great that mechanics here with other countries impossible annihilate our export trade; in New York have been demandi ng and getting bonuses beand without foreign trade what is the answer? yond the union scale that have run their wages up to as In spite of all this; in spite of the fa& that general condi- much as $15 a day. tions have not been right; in spite of the serious conditions In Chicago prices have gone still higher—as high as $25 a abroad; in spite of the long drawn out coal strike; in spite of day for plasterers, according to a Chicago dispatch published the disastrous railroad strike, security prices have gone in one of the morning papers in New York a few days ago. steadily up, until now they stand at figures warranted only Can you fancy anything more impossible than this? Can on sound economic conditions. you fancy what it means in house rents, what it means in the But have we sound economic conditions, considering our cost of the shoes we wear, the clothes we wear, the food we relations with Europe in her financial and economic distress, eat? For all branches of labor have a direct bearing, the and consdering, in the large view, our own unrest and our one on the other, in respect of wages. unsolved and unsettled problems? And is business generally In this situation it is perfectly clear that the country coming back in dependable volume, or is the revived activity should demand, and that you should demand, an immediate merely spotty? change in our immigration laws—a change that will let into NATIONAL BANK DIVISION. this country the willing workers of the Old World who are begging at our doors for admittance. In the matter of immigration what we need, and what common intelligence dictates we should have, is not restrictive laws but a selective system. Any Zliange in the immigration law that would let into this country more plain labor and more skilled mechanics will be fought to the limit by organized labor. Whether our present restrictive law was passed at the behest of organized labor I do not know; but I do know that the law is exactly what organized labor has been contending for, and what organized labor will contend for with all its force. Our Political Machinery. goods, handicapped as they are by the accumulated prejudices of time. What we want and should have is service, and we should see to it that we have the machinery that can give us the service. In our political conventions it has been the custom of both parties to dwell at length on their historic achievements. This does not mean a thing to me. What a party can do, is doing, means everything to me. The salvation of our present situation would be a liberal conservative party, numerically strong enough to hold the balance of power against the radical forces. There is no more conservative section of the country than the South. The conservative people of the South naturally beyong with, and should line up with, the conservative people of the North. With new political parties this would be perfectly simple, while it is not possible with the old parties as A country the size of America, a democracy, must have party government. There is no other way to manage it. No big concern can exist without organization, and the biggest business concern of the world to-day is the American Government. A democracy is a mutual concern managed by the citizens of the country. With a population of a hundred and ten millions, obviously the only way the individual citizen can make himself felt in the management of of his business—and his Government is his business—is through a political party. We are not lacking in party organization. Indeed, the Democratic and Republican parties are so strongly organized, have become so thoroughly intrenched in the field of politics, that it is a question if they have not become our masters, not our servants. In the early days of the Republic they represented distinct and positive ideas. But with these great fundamental ideas converted into history there are no longer any big outstanding issues between them that have any place in our politics. There are, to be sure, many small points on which the Republican and Democratic parties differ to-day. It is their business to differ, to create differences, to work up issues, without which they'would cease to exist as political parties. It is the business of each party to oppose and to fight the acts and proposals of the other party. here is very little team work between the two parties in Congress and in our State Legislatures given to constructive measures—very little team work given to the economies of government, given unselfishly to the interests of the Government and to the interests of the people. The truth is that neither party has a sufficient margin of safety to justify it in taking chances on such co-operation; that neither party has sufficient margin of safety to justify it in forgetting for a minute the vote back home. While this political jockeying has been going on since the great old issues disappeared, a new issue has developed that now divides all America into two political camps,as yet without political names. They are the radical camp and the conservative camp, and within each camp there is a wide range separate entities in the field. To make it plainer: If, for example,the Democratic party should come out as the radical party, retaining the old Democratic name,can you fancy that men who had been voting the Democratic ticket all their lives, however conservative their sentiments, would switch over in large numbers to the Re. publican party? And considered from the other side, can you fancy that men who have been voting the Republican ticket all their lives, however radical their sentiments, would switch over In large numbers to the Democratic party? This is the crux of the whole matter, for the important tl.ing in this situation is for our voters to enroll with the party tnat stands for the thing they stand for in their own hearts. And this is not possible with the Republican party and the Democratic party in the field. With these two old parties out of the way, the new political alignment of the pew le would obviously be in perfect accord with their sentiments But there is one way that these two old parties could be of the greatest service to the country. This is through consolidation. Still the name—the Democratic-Republican party, or whatever it might be—would give no indication of its policies. Nevertheless, this combination of forces would constitute a mighty wall of strength reared against the fast rising tide of radicalism. f can see nothing so important to this nation as would be the welding together in a great solid unit of all our citizens who think alike as concerns constitutional government, who think alike as concerns property rights, who think alike as concerns the institutions of our Government under which we have grown into a great, powerful and happy people. Reconsecrated to liberal conservatism—liberal conservatism in fact—our politics would be in much better shape than they are to-day, in much better shape than they have been since finishing the work for which the two old parties were of thought and feeling. Some day, and not a very distant,day at that, these two groups will evolve into organized political parties with names that signify what they stand for. The names of the Republican and Democratic parties have no significance that fits the present day. Each means substantially the same thing—means a stand for popular government. Since, however, we are not by way of changing our form of government, these party names mean nothing. It is not in me to put aside things that are old simply because they are old. No more is it in me to continue the use of things that are old simply because they are old. I have no such maudlin sentiment. If an old machine can give as good an account of itself as a new machine it is the part of economy, the part of common ecosense, to continue using it. If it cannot do this it is an poltical nomic crime to continue using it. This is as true of vast steel machinery as it is of any tangible machinery in our great undertakings. plants or other And so, if the two old parties can continue to do our work as well as strictly new parties could do it, I should certainly favor keeping them in the harness. It would be the easy way. But, personally, I do not believe they can deliver the 151 originally formed. With radicalism the issue, with a radical party on the one hand and a liberal conservative party on the other, there would no longer be occasion in Congress and our State Legislatures for jockeying for issues. I have said that the very great issues which separated the Democratic and Republican parties have passed into history. Let us go back and check up the facts. The original issue between the Democratic party and the old Whig party, the predecessor of the present Republican party, in the early days of the Republic, was the tariff. Almost at the outset of the Republic friction began to develop between the North and the South over this question. The South, with its abundant crops of cotton, corn and tobacco, and with no manufacturing, stood out for free trade. It could live and prosper on the products of its soil. It had no infant industries to protect, and, as the South reasoned, why should it be taxed through the mechanism of a tariff to protect the infant industries of the North? The North, on the other hand, without the sunshine and the fertile soil of the South. could not live on the products of its own hard, rocky acres. With the North it was a question of industrial development or no development at all. Its small factories could not compete with the established fac- 152 BANKERS' CONVENTION. tories of England without a tariff that would level up the America is in a transition stage to-day. The whole world costs of production abroad with the costs of production at is in a transition stage to-day. America has cut loose from home. the conservatism of our fathers and penetrated deep into And so the issue was clearly and sharply drawn between the wilderness of radicalism. This is true in our politics, in the two sections, with their wholly different interests. As our statesmanship, in our social life, in our business life, in time went on, the feeling over this issue became so tense that our pont of view in all things. John C. Calhoun and Robert Hayne, Senators from South The change from a century ago has been insidious, revoCarolina, came out vigorously for the separation of the South lutionary. The amassing of great fortunes, general prosfrom the Union. perity, organized labor, the spirit of unrest, the spirit of This action created a storm that shook the young Republic Bolshevism, the love of play, the demand for short working to its very depths. A long and bitter fight followed, but hours, the general dislike for work—all these are represented under the leadership of Daniel Webster, Senator from Masin the new idea, in the spirit of the times. sachusetts, the battle was won for the maintenance of the We must give earnest consideration to this change and Union. The tariff sore, however, remained unhealed. square ourselves to our responsibilities. Good government And the contention of Hayne and Calhoun that the States Is back of good banking, back of good business. There can had a right to secede from the Union still gripped the people be no safe banking without good government. There can be of the South, and had some following in the North. The no safe business prosperity without good government, and Democratic party was the instrument of the Southern idea; it is our duty—your duty, gentlemen—to see to it that we the old Whig party, the predecessor of the present Republican have the right machinery to insure good government. party, was the instrument of the Northern idea. America is the best living country in the world to-day. Later came the slavery question, which stirred the South with its incomparable natural resources and incomparable to the point of putting the Hayne-Calhoun contention to opportunities for human advancement. America is worth the test. That question, the right of secession, was saving. If it is saved, it will be saved by you and by men like settled by the Civil War—that question and the slavery you; if it is lost to the world as the foremost example of dequestion. mocrarcy, it will be lost by you and by men like you. With these two issues passed on to history only free trade, Nothing succeeds without ownership interest in the manthe original issue, survived the war as the big dividing issue agement. This is as true of Governments as of business; as between the two parties. And now that question has been true of your Government as of your banks. If you want a settled, in point of fact, through the South itself becoming good government you must pay the price that insures a good one of the greatest industrial camps in the Union—an indus- government . trial camp destined to become bigger than the North, vastly The price of good government in a republic means a deep bigger, for the reason that it has the raw materials at its personal interest in your Government, the same serious indoor, has lower living costs and is nearer to the centres of terest you have in your business. The price of good governconsumption. ment in a republic means work, means watchfulness, means In this situation the tariff has no place in our politics. It giving the best there is in you to your Government. is wholly a business question, and should be so treated. The living of a life is a serious business. The life that Standing out, however, as the original issue between the two absorbs from the world, gets everything it can out of the parties, it is still the fighting ground between them and to world, and gives back nothing to the world is not worth the shame of the American people, who permit these two old while, it is a flat waste of human force. parties to keep this great economic question under the sordid A man may serve his Government in many ways. Public heel of politics. service does not consist solely in holding public office. The For a considerable time after the Civil War one other of organization back of public office is in the public service the pre-war issues between the two parties continued as a quite the same as the Congressman or the Governor or the stalking horse. That was State rights. Considered literally, President, for it is the organization that puts him in office. and in its original meaning, it was a dead issue; but it grad- Service in the organization is fundamental and imperative ually came to mean the relative balancing of the powers of in the lfe of a democracy. the States with the national Government. The postion you hold in your respective communities That issue no longer functions, for in the eight years of means more than being a good banker, means more than the recent Democratic Administration the national Govern- earning dividends for your stockholders. It means citizenment took on greater powers in relation to the States than it ship responsibility, means citizenship service to your respechad ever done in all our history. tive communities .means citizenship service to your country. COMMITTEE OFFICERS' REPORTS-NATIONAL BANK DIVISION Remarks of the President of the National Bank Division, John G. Lonsdale. In calling to order this annual session of the Division, it is my pleasure to state that the year 1922 shows national banks continuing onward in their healthful development. On June 30 of this year the combined resources of national banks amounted to over $20,700,000,0 00, 500 million above the statement of May this year. Every energy of this Division should be directed in the future as in the past to the fostering of constant and constructive expansion by every fair and helpful means. Ours should be an eternal vigilance, not only for equal banking opportunity for our own class of institution, but for the advancement of banking in this nation in every safe fashion. The banker has an increasingly responsible position to hold. Things have changed in a decade. The pro-war banker, turned Rip Van Winkle would come back to-day an obsolete character in many ways, a stranger to the multitude of new practices and terms that have originated with and since the war. To-day we have cast aside the accumulated mysticisms of the past, and the public knows and appreciates the banking profession, not as dealers in negative replies, purveyors of bad news, but as one of the most interested and constructive forces in every community. Bankers, essaying no longer habitual timidity, are assuming their rightful positions in civic and national affairs for which their experience so well qualifies them. Has the banker or his business suffered from this popularizing process? Decidedly not. His prestige is at par. his worth a growing asset to his community, and his business has grown apace with this better under standing. Sound banking has been the guiding beacon of the past year's progress out of the wilderness and up the favorable side of business. With the passing of a period of extreme credit contraction, there are succeeding problems requiring caution and the sanest thought. Banking expansion is in prospect. How rapidly this is undertaken to avoid a period of secondary inflation will be due to the real safety measures that only the individual banker can effectively apply. In the vital work of readjustment, the Federal Reserve System has supplied the needed unity to our independent banking system. Through its functioning, the banking power of the country has been doubled and In thus exercising the full force of our financial strength in behalf of the nation it has proved a real business savior. It has placed the soundness of our currency beyond question, and given stability and certainty to the conduct of business. Because it serves for the benefit of all, the support of the Federal Reserve should be unanimous, its membership including every bank and trust company eligible under the law. This supervision is of the highest order and the rightful type of Federal interest in business. But increasing governmental competition with legitimate enterprises is not only basically wrong, but unfair and retarding to the exercise of private business ingenuity, in which our commercial greatness has its origin. Paternalism Is stifling to native ability. There is no longer justification for the nurturing of Washington agencies which came into being as war NATIONAL BANK DIVISION. 153 Bank to maintain and operate branches within emergencies. Business at this particular time needs every form of en- the Act as to permit national banks which the head offices of such national corporate limits of the cities in couragement, and competition, sustained or subsidized by the already banks are located, to be confined, however, to States in which State chartered institutions are authorized to have branches." too burdensome public tax, is doubly retarding. Governmental interest could be indicated by a systematic study of needs, This quest for banking equality is no plea for special privileges or any obsolete laws to the new standards of the day, and enabling adjusting of new rights to the exclusion of others. To disapprove of the equalization American industry through vast, uniform production to successfully of what already exists would be to depreciate justice. If the practice itself compete in the market places of the world. be bad,then it is universally unsound, but that conception of its worthiness More and more we are coming to realize that there can be no full measure is not within the provision of the Division's official expression. That it of prosperity in this country with Europe out of step, with every great be fully considered by the Association as a practice affecting all banking Continental nation—excepting possibly one—spending from two to three is all that this Division can in justice demand. times as much as their total annual revenue,and with suffering and economic Attention to legislation naturally takes an important part in the year's chaos general. work, as banks of this Division derive their power from, and are regulated It is natural that we should view the international situation with concern; by the Federal Government. To this end, the Federal Legislative Combecause the establishment of order and resumption of trade on the Conmittee, with the assistance of the general counsel of the Association, has tinent must precede the peak of our own affluent times. been extremely busy. In this respect, the Division has not only been However provindal we might have been before the late conflict, the wider committee, but also a vision gained in that experience, the very necessity of our participation fortunate in having a capable chairman of this has taught the inter-dependency of nations. Conceding the claims of those gentleman whose home is at legislative headquarters—Washington. His who hold that this hemisphere or this continent is economically self suffi- alertness in laying before the proper Congressional committeesfacts pertinent cient, it is also true that trade relations for over a century have been based to banking legislation and also in keeping members advised through headon an interchange with Europe and to rearrange this would disrupt industry quarters of the status of these measures has been of greatest value. for a decade or more. When we realize that a foreign market virtually Charter Bill. influences, if not actually fixes the price of two big staple crops—wheat Considerable anxiety reigned in national bank circles because there was and cotton—our trade dependency is apparent. no legal provision for the extension of a national bank charter beyond the We are entering a great mercantile era that has no counterpart since the second twenty years, and no less than twenty-four charters were on the first Phoenicians ventured forth to expend their home land through mari- eve of such an expiration. The bill authorizing 99 -year franchises, while time commerce. In this commercial contest of nations, the United States having the endorsement of the Association, was so distinctly a Division has almost every natural advantage to trade supremacy, including the matter that the latter, through its officers, its committees and its indidiplomatic position of being the creditor nation. vidual members, acquainted Congress with the justice of the measure, Increased production here, as well as in Europe, is the only road to im- resulting in its adoption. provement,• course impossible with a decadent Europe. War debts and Many associational influences co-operated in having placed in the reparation settlements, domestic production, the substance of all things Revenue Bill a provision permitting banks to deduct from their income hoped for, are but phases of a universal cycle of trade. None is possible tax the sums paid in State, county and municipal taxes. Our Division without a growing resumption of commercial intercourse, and yet all are watched this through the Senate and in conference and was a vital factor deferred, retarded because of the stalemate in European affairs. through being continually on the job concerning this measure. Isolation as a patriotic fetish has its commendable aspects, but from an Stats Taxation. economic standpoint, aside from all politics of the situation, it is impossible. A special Association Committee was appointed to consider the proThese United States cannot fully function, or reap the ultimate rich reward posal of Congress to amend Section 5219 of the National Bank Act, but of restoration, in the role of an onlooker. Every attempt at adjustment so far has met with minor success; the because of its extreme importance to this Division, the Committee on State increasing turmoil abroad: the undertainty that holds the entire world in Taxation of National Banks, and, in fact, our entire organistion, has been suspense augments instead of subsiding. Statesmen plan,diplomats party. very active on this question. There have been various amendments before luminaries discuss and counsellors investigate to little avail, while the Congress proposing to the give the State power to measure the rate of taxation assessed upon shares of stock in national banks by something other conflagration of discord grows apace. Governmental circumvention of the past seems checkmated. Why not than the rates assessed on.other monied capital in the hands of individual give that ever-resourceful, never-found-wanting element of hard-headed citizens, as the law now requires. One bill introduced in the ITouse, and urged for passage by a number of business statesmanship an inning? Over here when we go broke, the first formality, at least, is a creditors' meeting. That's a common-sense proced- State tax commissioners,would permit States to tax either the incomes or the ure now. Every factor concerned: financial, commerce, shipping—is shares in national banks at a rate no greater than imposed upon the State essentially a business one. Bring into play the ingenuity of business minds banks and trust ompanies, and also to permit a State to tax additionally on this situation, for, once gathered around the conference table, they could the income from the shares. This was actively opposed by the American Bankers Association Special Committee,but was finally passed by the House be expected to make progress where little heretofore has been made. We are told that the President of this nation has recently indicated that after a number of changes had been made in it. These changes and the the time is approaching when America could more fully participate in the progress of the bill will be more fully covered by other reports. However, resuscitation of Europe. Isn't now the propitious time for this, the great the bill, after leaving the House, was sent to the Senate and is there being American Bankers Association, to not only serve the best interests of this handled by a sub-committee that has also under consideration the Kellog country, but of the world, in extending its good offices to the Government Bill, which seeks to place all banks, National and State, in one class and An bringing about in conference an interchange of information and data assess them, without regard to the rates imposed upon other moneyed on the principal subject of betterment—"International Credit Financ- capital. The inequalities of this measure in its form at the time of writing ing." America. her broad freedom from malice generally recognized as of this report are immediately apparent to all bankers and inasmuch as the the only nation with moral persuasion necessary to effect such an under- proposed bill contains retroactive clauses which would legalise the taxes standing. The mere congregating of world financial minds would give assessed, levied or collected since Jan. 1 1917, the legislation Le receiving careful attention both in this Division and by the Special Committee of direction and stability to the present uncertain situation. Remember,"No man who puts his hand to the plow and looketh back the American Bankers Association. is fit for the Kingdom of God." Extension of Loan Powers. There has been agitation in some quarters for the liberalisation of the National Bank Act, giving greater latitude for loans upon real estate. This question was referred by the Administrative Committee of the Association The National Bank Division of the American Bankers Association is to this Division. After going very carefully into the situation and ascertaining by letter the viewpoint of Division members, your executive comfinishing an eventful year in its history—a period of considerable legislation, mostly beneficial, as has been a great deal of the last twelve months' mittee went on record as opposed to such a change in the loan system of progress. Especially gratifying has been the attempt to both enact and National banks. Only one-eighth of the replies received favored such a change. interpret legislation in fairness to national banks. The increased use of the Washington office both by the Division and by This Division of approximately 7,000 members has always deemed it foresight of those an honorable policy to be solidly for every banking development of a the Association at large has continued, verifying the who originally conceived this plan. With all Government agencies that wholesome nature, whether or not it especially pertained to national banks. have to do either directly or indirectly with bank management, through In this respect, it is noteworthy that the broad spirit of Americanism— them. While that enlightened principle of our reedom that all men are born free and this office the Division is kept constantly in contact with Department,Compequal—has throughout the history of this Division dominated any lesser the principal relationships have been with the Treasury troller of the Currency and the Federal Reserve Board, there is being or personal motives. co-operation Originating in this Division at the Los Angeles convention, as a move developed, especially in the matter of foreign trade, a close Defor banking equality, the subject of what constitutes proper banking with the Department of Commerce and similar connections with the partment of the Interior, which are expected to be of growing importance facilities has assumed its true significance before the Association at large. National banks, seeking the impartial application of banking oppor- to banker members in the period of greater development ahead. tunities, and by reason of the prevalence of certain practices by other Washington Office Popular. classes of banks, officially adopted as the position of the Division in this American bankers have come to realize that there is firmly established in important matter the following resolution: Washington a general service office through which members can have "Whereas, The banking business of this country, in order to take care representation in the transaction of whatever business requires their attenof the ever-increasing demands of commerce and to encourage thrift tion at the National capitol. amongst all classes, has resulted in the establishment of branches by the Generally summarized, the headquarters work resolves itself into the State chartered institutions in many sections of the country; and, "Whereas, National banks are not permitted to establish or originate following classifications: acquire banks with branches already established and, branches, but may First. Attention given to legislation, that members may know what is by conversion, operate them as branches; and, being done in Congress—and this includes ascertaining the viewpoint of "Whereas. In the advantage the State banks have in the matter of governing committees and individual members on all pertinent legislation, business through the establishment of branches and development of their by the facilities offered by membership in the Federal Reserve System, and transmitting it to the proper Federal committees. Second.Embraces the task of representing the members before the various there is grave danger that the national banking system will be disrupted and or superseded by the State chartered institutions; National Bank Division executive departments in matters of special business pertaining to their "Whereas, It is the opinion of the members of the the national banking system banks. of the American Banker; Association that its existence and that it is the Third. Includes the gathering and dispatching of a great deal of informahas for more than fifty years fully justified bank Act from time to time Congress to so amend the national tion to secretaries of sundry State associations for distribution to their duty of business and to as will enable national banks to meet the needs ofinstitutions;nnd reason- members. wereaslaetheepinienethememeieinnl Bank competition oftle State chartered et t Fourth. The maintenance of activities intended to assist member banks is Division that branch banking as practiced in certain foreign countries it in the development of the several departments of their business. United States, but not for the best interests of all the people of the banks to manage and Trust and Savings. would be entirely practicable and safe for national This latter activity in one that is growing apace and will in the future permaintain branches within a reasonable radius from the head office; therefore, be it mit of specialized development due to the increasing number of National "Resolved, That the National Bank Division of the American Bankers' both trust and savings deAssociation requests the Congress of the United Slates to so amend the National banks including in their services to the public Report of President of the National Bank Division. a47g 154 BANKERS' CONVENTION. partmenta. This feature of the work will be covered more in detail by the Committee on Trust Departments in National Banks and the Committee on Savings Departments in National banks. There are now 1.595 national banks with trust departments and approximately 4.500 national banks with savings departments, with total savings deposits well over the three billion mark. The widespread success of these new functions, which were added to render complete service to the community in common with other institutions is causing the number to grow with rapidity. In consequence, the specialized information pertaining to this department of the work, along with helpful suggestions, is gradually drawing closer together in their working relations the national banks having these departments in common. The Committee on Relations of National Banks with the Federal Reserve System, Committee on State Legislation and Committee on Membership will report in the course of our proceedings and it is only my purpose to acknowledge here not only the constant and efficient service of the chairmen of these various committees, but to extend my appreciation to the members of all these committees who accepted this work in their line of duty and discharged it with great benefit to the Association and to the Division. The membership of the Division stands at 6,990, which, in the face of recently increased dues, is a splendid record. There should be no let up In the effort to bring into the fold of this Association every eligible national bank in existence. As president, it has been my privilege to serve with the worthy gentlemen composing the Adminstrative Committee of the Association and I have tried in every manner both to reprt amt the composite viewpoint of our Division as well as to counsel for the benefit of the profession of banking as a whole. Bankers Take Part. The members of the Administrative Committee last December attended an important session at Washington, which, in many ways, has an epochal significance in that the banker, realizing his duty to the country, went down to Washington, sans requests and personal interests, and offered his whole-hearted co-operation to the Government heads in bringing about an adjustment of the business and economic difficulties besetting the country. The improvement and stability that has followed cannot be whooly accredited to such a conference, and yet there is every reason to believe that the confidence inspired and the co-operation engendered at that session were an example to the entire country and had a far-reaching effect. This example of public participation in the events pertaining to city, State and national development is one that should be encouraged and augmented until the banker rightfully assumes the leadership and influence in public affairs to which his knowledge and experience qualify him. The Exectutive Committee which decides on the interim policies of your Division held a June meeting at White Suplhur Springs, Va. The capability and earnestness with which they discharged their duties both at this meeting and during the year forms the bulwark around which the year's accomplishments have been builded. The Division has as a Deputy Manager in charge of the Washington office a secretary whose ambitions and energies fit peculiarly into the expanding requirements of the work. The splendid manner in which he has co-operated with the executive heads in increasing the service of the headquarters is fully appreciated, and last, but not least in my thoughts, is a final word of thanks to the members of this Division for the honor they have conferred upon me in electing me president, for I feel that the experiences and contact with the capable minds composing this group have been among the most enjoyable and profitable periods of my life. Conclusion. National banks form the nucleus of that wonderfully effective machinery, the Federal Reserve System. The nations's scheme of financing and banking takes into consideration and is dependent in many quasi-governmental functions upon the thoughtful and healtful development of the national bank. As a unit of our financial system, its worth and necessity are testified to by the continued growth and the expansion of national bank facilities to include ail accepted and legitimate forms of banking. This Division Is proud.almost zealously so,of that development and upon the individaul interest of the members,combined with a fair, but far-sighted aggressiveness on the part of the divisional administrative heads, depends the continuance of this expansion and the future success of national banks— institutions worthy by service and by experience to parallel the best pro grass of these grand old United States. JOHN G. LONSDALE. President. Report of the Executive Committee of the National Bank Section. Your Executive Committee has met tnree times since the last Annual Convention, though much of its business nas been conducted by correspondence. The meeting held in Washington Dec. 12 1921 was called to consider several matters of moment to national banks. It is apparent to every one that there is alarming and growing disparity between the capital and resources of national banks and the capital and resources of State banks. This is occasioned largely by the broader powers granted to banks organized under the laws of some of the States. It this condition should continue for a few years, it would undoubtedly endanger our unified banking system under Federal supervision. Out of more than Twenty-two thousand State banksin the United States, most ofthem eligible to membership in the Federal Reserve System, only sixteen hundred have so far joined, though there are more than eight thousand national banks, all of which are of course members of the Federal Reserve System. The disadvantage under which national banks labor in some States makes it imperative that Congress and the Administration be informed of the tendency toward the relinquishment of rational charters and urged to stay withdrawals from the national system, thus resulting in the weakening of the Federal Reserve System. As an example, in the City of Los Angeles, out of a total of over 500 million deposits, the deposits of national banks in that city have been reduced to only 165 million. There are 185 banks and branches. Of these only three are national banks, and 182 are represented by State institutions. These conditions pervail to some extent in other localities in the United States. It was rot thought that national banks would seek any special privileges. and they do not, but it is gratifying to know that some of the Government officials, legislative and administrative, recognize that a financial structure under Federal control is essential to stability and sound finance. Twentytwo States in the Union now have a system of branch banks, and we have heard of no sound reason why national banks should not be accorded the same privilege, at least in these twenty-two States. At another meeting of your Committee, held at White Sulphur Springs in May 1922, the work bY the Division during the early part of the year vtas approved and a plan adopted far the latter half. One of the most important subjects was that of the extension of national bank charters. The Committee gave its strong endorsement to the efforts made by the Division to secure the enactment of a law which would grant charters to national banks for unlimited periods of time, and much time and effort was spent in this direction. The final result was that Congress passed a law granting national bank charters for a period of 99 years from July 1 1922. While this was not what your Committee desired. or what the national banks really had a right to expect, It serves almost every desired end, and your Committee feels that it is a mark of real progress. At this meeting the provision in the revenue law exempting certain building and loan wsoc'ations from income taxes was attacked as an unwarranted discrim*nation against banking institutions, ard some corrective legislation was urged upon those in position to grant relief, though to this time there has been nothing done in this direction. Your Committee, basing its opinion upon expressions received from national bankers in all sections of the country.* stated its opposition to the several proposals made to Congress for a so-called liberalization of the laws governing real estate loans by national banks. Your committee is of the opinion that the existing laws are sufficiently broad and that no effort should be made to have them adjusted. "Your Committee has from time to time noted what it considers a very wise attitude of the Comptroller toward national bank agenices. In some quarters there existed for a considerable time the opinion that a proper construction of the National Bank Act authorizes the maintenance of more than one office of a national bank in the city in which it is chartered to operate. The present Comptroller is one of those who entertained that belief. and, after a careful review of the rulings and the reasons therefor, and an exhaustive search of the statutes and the court decisions, he announced his conviction of the correctness of that p ,gttIon. Acting upon this view, and with his approval, a number of national banks have established additional banking offices in their efforts to meet the competition of State banks with branches. A distinction is drawn between a branch bank and an additional office or agency,and only the latter are contemplated by the Comptroller's position. There aro a number of measures before Congress on this subleet. The Courts have also been appealed to to prevent national banks from establishing agencies. The several bills before Congress to amend the National Bank Act in its grant of authority to the States to tax the shares ofstock in national banks have been given constant and diligent attention by the National Bank Division. This subject is still a live one before Congress and is receiving attention all over the country. However, because of the widespread interest in this matter, not only to national banks but to others, a special committee of the American Bankers Association has been zonstituted to consider the various measures on this subject before Congress. A study of the history of the taxation of bank shares leads us to the conclusion that, except for the existence of Section 5219 ofthe Revised Statutes, which covers this question. the taxation of bank shares would have been even more burdensome than the rates assessed in violation of this statute in a number of States. Your Committee has not hesitated in their individual capacities to join other interests in urging upon Congress the danger of constantly creating commissions and bureaus which are forever and eternally meddling with the intimate private affairs of the people. We consider this one of the most alarming tendencies of the times and the rights and privileges of the people were never so interfered with and private initiative was never at a lower ebb than it is at present. Of the multitudes of commissions and bureaus it is doubtful if there are but few of any real service to the public. All of them are expensive and the people would be far better off If Congress should begin a campaign of simple rather than complex government. One of the curses of this age is too much government. The members of the Executive Committee have followed the work of the Division closely during the past year. and many of them have often visited the Washington office and have kept informed of the Division's activities, but a large portion of the work has been most efficiently handled by the Deputy Manager and his very competent assistants. Respectfully submitted. (Signed] T. R. PRESTON. Chairman. Resolutions on Branch Banking, &c. Mr. J. W. Barton (Minneapolis): As Chairman of the Resolutions Committee I beg to leave to submit the following resolutions: Resolution No. 1—America Should Join Europe to Restore Normal International Relations. "Whereas, The liquidation of International War obligations and the restoration of the economic order of the world depend upon profitable production, and "Whereas, The production of new wealth, the only permanent basis of recuperation, is dependent upon the uninterrupted flow of products and material everywhere, be it "Resolved. That efforts to restore normal international world relationships having thus far failed to achieve tangible results, the urgency of the situation demands the same deliberations of business statesmanship, and that with governmental sanction the leading business brains of America should be joined with those of Europe in a conference out of which would surely come at least the basis for a better understanding of the problems involved and for anearly and practical solution of these problems. Resolution No. 2.—High Quality Paper Urged As a Protection Against Counterfeit Money. "Whereas, Recent reports show unusual activity in the making and circulating of counterfeit paper money, therefore be it "Resolved, That this Convention requests the Secretary of the Treasury to resume the same high quality of materials and of mechanical production of paper money that obtained prior to the war, in order to provide the largest possible protectlion against counterfeiting. Be it further "Resolved. That a copy of this resolution be sent to the Secretary of the Treasury, the Chairman of the Appropriations Committee of the United States Senate, and the Chairman of the Appropriations Committee of the House of Representatives. Resolution No. 3.—Against Preference For Savings Deposits. "Whereas. The is history of the National Banks of the country is one of continuous service to their respective communities, which service has ex• panded as additional needs have arisen, and NATIONAL BANK DIVISION. 155 invade that to be resolution that we have, and make no effort and no attempt to "Whereas, The savings departments of National Banks have come banking by reason of the added banking time-honored question? Important features of national I shall therefore vote against the amendment. facilities offered the public, and Bank President-Elect Newcomer: Is there any further discussion? "Whereas, Experience shows that the provisions of the National Section Mr. Latta: If I am correct, there was a resolution passed by this Law are not only right in theory but in practice as regards the investment permitting at Los Angeles which put us on record at that time in favor of and of national bank funds States as nationals banks to have branches in their own cities, in such "Whereas, It is unwise to set aside any particular part of a bank's assets permitted branches for State banks. Am I correct? in order to prefer one class of depositors over another, therefore be it -Elect Newcomer: Yes sir. President changes "Rest?bed, That it is neither necessary nor prudent to make any body? Mr. Latta: Why not let that stand if that is the feeling Of this In a provision that has proven eminently satisfactory. that the And in view of the fact that it is the feeling of the body, I move matter as it now stands be laid on the table. Resolution No. 4.—National Banks Should Not Be Discriminated Against -Elect Newcomer: What is your pleasure, gentlemen? President In Taxation. The motion was seconded, that the matter be laid on the table. that to subI under"Whereas, The history of tax legislation has demonstrated President-Elect Newcomer: The motion to lay on the table, of motion is to lay ject the taxing of the shares of National Banks to the changing moods stand, is to apply only to Mr. Maddox's qmendment; the State Legislatures tends towards the creation of a special group Mr. Maddox's amendment on the table. the several amendor class which may be unfairly burdened by taxation. Mr. Latta: I meant the whole question, because Mr. Maddox's "Whereas, The force and justice of the provisions of Section 5219 of the ment in fact, while it was not so presented, is really a substitute for this,sir. be it addition to it. Revised Statute is fully recognized, therefore President-Elect Newcomer: It was not a substitute; it is an a matter of "Resolved, That this Division reiterates its endorsement of the spirit I think the Chair will have to rule that it shall be treated as the of said Section. commends the work of the special taxation committee of must come on the question of amendment. end that the separate action. The first vote on the table: Association, and pledges its continuous co-operation to the Of course, you can make your motion to lay the whole thing protection afforded by this Section shall not be withdrawn or lessened. I will agree to that. . A resolution with reference to branch banking was then read . . . . . Mr. Latta: That is what I intended. resolu(which was voted down). -Elect Newcomer: That refers only to that particular President tion, of course. Resolution No. 5.—Thanks To Speakers. brought in as It is moved and seconded, gentlemen, that the resolution with Mr. "Whereas, This Division is under deep obligations to the speakers and by the Committee, on the question of branch banks, together , for the masterly way Maddox's amendment, be laid on the table. all others who have participated in our proceedings that a motion in which they have discussed present day conditions and needs, therefore One of the members called for a point of order and stated be it to lay on the table was not debatable. thanks, to offer to withdraw my "Resolved, That we as a Division extend to them our heartiest Mr. Maddox: Mr. President, I was just going the motion: and acknowledge the deep obligations under which they have placed us, amendment, with the consent of the gentleman who made to of the benefits to be derived from the adoption of and if the gentleman who made the motion will permit, I will be glad and the consciousness vote upon the withdraw my amendment in order that the Section may the precepts they have so ably and clearly set forth. resolution as brought in by the Resolutions Committee. Mr. President. Resolution No. 6.—Appreciation of Welcome To City. Mr. Latta: I will be very glad to withdraw the motion, of Mr. people of -Elect Newcomer: Then it stands that the seconder President "Whereas, The welcome we have received at the hands of the there is some Maddox's motion consents to its being withdrawn. Unless this great city has been so cordial and sincere, and further voting. desire objection, the Chair will rule it withdrawn without re-read here? "Whereas, the preamble of the official welcome expressing the Mr. Jeffries (Missouri): Might we not have the resolution theremore. that 'this is your city as much as ours' has been abundantly fulfilled, I think it is all right, but I would just like to hear it once fore be it Mr. Barton re-read the resolution on branch banks. York to take any "Resolved, That the National Bank Division extend to the New President-Elect Newcomer: Are you ready, gentlemen, that bankers gracious appreciation of their fine hospitality and assure them by the Committee? wonderful city has been re- action on the resolution as read the admiration and regard for their, and our, The question was called for. newed and cemented for all time to come." understand it, to President-Elect Newcomer: There is no motion, as I JOHN W. BARTON, Chairman, lay that on the table; or has that been withdrawn? this: That we ALEXANDER DUNBAR. Mr. Latta: The think I had in mind, Mr. Chairman, was this resolution as it is JOHN POOLE. went on record in Los Angeles. Now, if we pass if this resolution offered, as I understand it, we practically reverse ourselves means anything in particular. Am I correct? RESOLUTION ON BRANCH BANKING TABLED. this. There President-Elect Newcomer: I am not prepared to answer Mr. Maddox (Georgia). May I ask the Chairman of the Resolutions to listen to so many things coming in here, I have not been able Committee to read once again the resolution containing the reference made have been the discussion very clearly. to the branch bank matter? that way? Mr. Latta: Mr. Maddox, wouldn't you understand it Mr. Barton re-read resolution covering branch banks. somewhat that Mr. Maddox (Georgia): Yes sir. I believe it would have President-elect Newcomer: Is there any discussion, gentlemen? know really what the resolution would really mean. Mr. Maddox (Georgia): I wonder what that resolution means when it effect. I don't we strike out that Mr. Trimble (Missouri): Mr. President, I move that says that they confirmed, not asked for, any privilege for the national banks part of the resolution referring to branch banking. having branches. I would like to have it read just as the resolution was entire resolution subPresident-Elect Newcomer: That is, strike out the read, but I would just offer for the consideration of the national bankers (I am sorry there are not more of them)for discussion, briefly, whether mitted by the Committee. here The motion was seconded. or not it would be wise to add this to that resolution: and seconded that this President-Elect Newcomer: It has been moved "And whereas, Since the last Annual Convention of the National Bank referring to branch banking, be continuation resolution submitted by the Committee, "aye"; contrary-minded "no". Section of the American Bankers Association, there has been a All in favor say of the establishment of branches by banks operating under State charters stricken from the report. The motion is carried. in many parts of the United States, and s report covering the A motion is now in order to adopt the Committee' "Whereas,These branches of State banks are in active competition with on branch banking. other resolutions with the exception of the one many banks operating under Federal charters, therefore be it seconded, that the ComIt was voted, upon motion regularly made and the one "Resolved, That in justice to the national banks and for the protection the other resolutions, with the exception of and preservation of their business, in cities where State banks are operating mittee's report covering branch banking, be adopted. branches, national banks should be allowed to open additional offices, pro- on vided such additional offices are not established outside of the limits of the rs for cities in which the banks are located." Report of Nominating Committee—Office President-elect Newcomer: You offer that as an addition to the resoluNew Year. tion? Mr. Maddox (Georgia): I move that that be added to the resolution the Nominating ComPresident Lonsdale: I am told the Chairman of Just read. mittee is ready to report. Gentlemen: Your The motion was seconded. Mr. Yetter (Davenport, Iowa): Mr. Chairman and President-elect Newcomer: It is moved and seconded that this resolution, Nominating Committee,after due deliberation. beg to submit the following: resolution in the Comas read by Mr. Maddox, be added to the particular FOR PRESIDENT mittee's report relating to branch banking. Mr. Jeffries (Missouri): Mr. President, I have no objection whatever to of Baltimore Waldo Newcomer.President ofthe National Exchange Bank frightfully the resolution as read and presented by the Committee, but I am the province of the resoafraid the amendment that was suggested invades FOR VICE-PRESIDENT lution that was adopted by the Convention this morning. We are all mindChattanooga. Thomas R. Preston, President Hamilton National Bank. ful of the inroads that are being made on the question of branch banks. asked whether Tenn. President-elect Newcomer: Mr. Jeffries, the question was you are a delegate here,sir? OF THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE (Made Up of FOR MEMBERS RepreMr. Jeffries (Missouri): I am a delegate from the National City Bank of Twelve Members, each Federal Reserve Group Being St. Louis, and an officer of that bank. sented by One Member). about the amendment, I don't know that there is anything so serious Pass Federal Reserve District No. 3. to fill a vacancy this year, E. P. we adopted except let us not break down the morale of the resolution which more, President North American National Bank, Philadelphia, Pa. this morning. Federal Reserve District No. 4, A. F. Mitchell. First Vice-President of the counMy idea is that this Association,in keeping with the traditions in some parts Northern National Bank, Toledo, Ohio. try, in the face of the fact that branch banks are established Federal Reserve District No.6, E. C. Melvin, President Selma National time-honored of the country, has put itself on record as being in favor of the that the Bank, Selma, Ala. First calling the people's attention to the fact tradition of the nation, Federal Reserve District No. 10, Charles W. Carey. President branch banks. Association stands with the people as opposed to Committee simply ratifies and National Bank, Wichita, Kan. during Now, the resolution as presented by the Federal Reserve District No. 7 (to fill a vacancy which occurred this morning, in that it First National Bank. confirms the position taken by the Convention made upon the year). John F. Hagey, Vice-President of the attention to the inroads that are being keeps in mind and calls an Association, rep- Chicago. the business by the States, and is it not better for us, as All the above were elected and installed. to stand firmly on the resenting the banking interests of the United States, STATE BANK DIVISION AMERICAN BANKERS' ASSOCIATION Sixth Annual Meeting, Held at New York City, October 2, 1922. INDEX TO STATE BANK PROCEEDINGS Financing Agriculture, Eugene Meyer, Jr Practical Problems of State Banking, Marshall Cousins_ Report of Federal Legislative Committee Opinion on Branch Banking Eliminated From Report Report of State Legislative Committee Report of Farm Finance Committee_ _ Page 156 161 163 163 163 164 Report of Public Service Committee_ Report of Committee on Exchange_ _ Report of Membership Committee__ _ Report of Committee on Resolutions Declaration Against Branch Banking Report of Nominating Committee _ _ Page 164, 169 166167 167 16T Financing Agriculture By EUGENE MEYER, JR., Managing Director, War Finance Corporation. The acute phases of the agricultural crisis of 1920-21 are now happily passed. The aftermath, in the form of a burden of debt on the farmers and stockmen, still remains; and some thousands of banking institutions in the country districts are still in an over-extended condition. But probably at no time in our history has there been so rapid and extensive an improvement in our economic condition as during the past 18 months. • The present is an opportune moment to study our recent experience—to analyze the facts and the forces involved. Now is the time to determine the features which may properly be classified as unique and therefore unikely to recur, and those which may be attributed to definite changes in our economic position, internally as well as internationally. With exact knowledge of the facts and with a thorough understanding of the complex forces that have been of chief influence in the recent crisis, we may hope to arrive at sound conclusions as to what modifications are necessary to adapt our banking methods and machinery to the needs of agricultural finance. It is =necessary, before this audience, to emphasize the importance of agriculture as our basic national activity, fundamental to all commercial, industrial and financial operations. It has been demonstrated, amply though painfully, during the past two years that in America the stability of commerce and industry is inextricably interwoven with a prosperots agriculture. . Need for More Gradual Marketing. In the interesting emergency work of the War Finance Corporation we have had an unusual opportunity to observe the many difficulties and problems that developed in the various sections of the country, and, through intimate contact with them, to glean something of useful application in the future. The crisis served to emphasize one outstanding fact—the need for the more gradual marketing of agricultural products, with longer term financing to correspond with this slower process. Unquestionably, it would have been advantageous, even under pre-war conditions, to market our products more gradually. Under present conditions, it is more than a matter of advantage—it is an absolute necessity. If we are to preserve our agriculture, if we are to foster and develop it to meet the needs of an ever-increasing population, we must face this problem squarely. A generation ago wheat was threshed throughout the winter, and in the natural course of events came on the market gradually. But power machinery on the farm, motor transportation, and good roads have greatly reduced the time involved in the physical operations of threshing and hauling to market. This development, coupled with the prevailin g system of short term financing, has resulted in hurrying the crop to market within a few weeks after the harvest But the mere fact that it is physically possible is no reason why the crop should be forced out of the producers' hands more quickly than the market can absorb it. This is only one of many factors which make it necessary to cOnsider what changes and adjustments should be made in our financial structure to insure the marketing of the crop in accordan ce with the cossuming demand. Fundamental Change in Export Markets. The collapse in agriculture and in the banking situation in the agricultural districts was characterized by an attempt to collect loans on farm commodities in too short a period. It was marked also by a fundamental change in the attitude and practice of the foreign buyer, brought about by the economic situation in Europe. This is strikingly illustrated by the figures for the movement of export cotton. Before the war it was the custom of the European cotton merchant to purchase, during or shortly after the harvest, his requirements for the year; and approximately 80% of our annual cotton exports went forward in the six months from September to February. But changed economic condition s, and especially the violent fluctuations "in international exchanges, made it impossible for him to contract ahead for large supplies and he was compelled to buy on a hand-tomouth basis, laying in sufficient stocks only to meet current needs. As a consequence, since the war only about 50% of our cotton exports have been going forward in these same months. In other words, from 1,500,000 to 2,000,000 bales, which ordinarily would have been exported during the period from September to February, had to be carried oyer into the second six months' period. Failure to understand this radical change in conditions and to provide means for storing and financing the cotton in this country had a disastrous effect. Neither the American producers nor the country banks were prepared to assume the extra burden. Indeed, there was no adequate machinery for meeting such a contingency. As a result, a disorderly collapse occurred in the cotton market and several thousand banks in the cotton growing sections became dangerously involved. Their correspondent banks in the larger centres STATE BANK DIVISION. were likewise embarrassed through inability to collect loans. And, in a more or less similar way,from various interrelated causes, the markets for wheat and hogs and cattle and sheep became demoralized, With identical effect on the banking institutions and producers of the West. Forced liquidation and hasty selling impaired the farmer's buying power; and this, in turn, brought about a reduced demand for the products of industry. The adversely interacting forces of weakening finances and weakening markets resulted in general demoralization. The stock raiser with a short-time loan was unable to obtain the renewal he needed In order to bring his animals to maturity; so he had to sell young stock and breeding animals. The cotton grower, with a slow market taking his cotton gradually, was confronted with the necessity of meeting immediately after the picking season the bills incurred for the whole year's producing operation. The corn belt farmer, with a bumper crop, could not get credit for the purchase of feeder stock to which he could feed his corn. Deposits were drawn down, reserves were depleted, loans could not be collected, and the stability of our entire banking structure was more seriously threatened than many are willing to admit, now that the danger is 157 in the Middle West to from 45 to 50 cents; wool that sold on the Western ranges at 17 cents is now worth around 35 to 40 cent; while hogs, sheep and cattle are not only worth considerably more in the markets, but are in greater demand for breeding and fattening purposes. Psychological Aspects of War Finance Work. The task of the War Finance Corporation during the emergency involved a great deal more than the mere lending of money. Important as were the loans of the Corporation. the psychological apects of the work were of even greater consequence. Over-expansion, inevitably and always, is characterized by over-confidence, while depressions are characterized by a general and undiscriminating lack of confidence, intensified at times by periods of acute panic. Neither business nor agriculture can be stabilized without, at the same time, stabilizing these psychological factors. If we review the public expressions, during the winter of 1919-20, of men in high positions in Government or banking circles, we find an extraordinary absence of adequate notes of warning. In fact, we May observe, in a general way, that business leaders commonly lack courage in times of optimistic over-expansion to sound the note of caution that is needed. passed. If they do so, they apply so many reservations that the efThe War Finance Corporation. fectiveness of the warning is largely nullified. When everyhangs high, no man likes to be This was the situation that confronted the War Finance one is optimistic and the goose fears that he may be accused of havCorporation when it began to function under the Agricultural a prophet of evil. He very trouble which he predicts. But during Credits Act of Aug. 24 1921. That Act authorized the Cor- ing caused the a note of caution and warning, poration to make loans for agricultural purposes to banking periods of over-confidence, and to co-operative marketing as- uttered at the proper time, is the most useful contribution and financial institutions economic leadership. sociations for periods of not to exceed one year, with power that can be made by sound In times of depression we more frequently find that men renewals for additional periods not to grant extensions or . But here, exceeding two years. It filled a gap in our banking machin- are willing to express themselves optimistically facility that was adapted to too, there is hesitation about making predictions regarding ery and provided a rediscount the future. The average business man or banker generally the peculiar needs of agriculture during the emergency. in its application and it was nec- does not like, in public statements, to anticipate the facts The Act was nation-wide essary for the Corporation to set up what amounted to an too far. He hesitates to jeopardize his established reputation auxiliary banking system throughout the country. Leading by publicly expressing definite opinions concerning coming bankers and business men in the various agricultural and events. He will not be praised if he is right, and he may be live stock districts wore called upon to serve on committees, placed in a more or less ridiculous light if he is wrong. In general, pessimism follows and does not precede untowithout compensation, to aid the Corporation in making its funds quickly available. By the latter part of October the ward events. Pessimism is rampant after a disaster; optimmachinery for administering the measure was in good work- ism precedes it. But to lsten to the pessimists, one would ing order, and from then on the Corporation approved loans think that the prophet of evil was anticipating events inIn steadily increasing volume. During the period from No- stead of merely recording them by his emotional reactions. vember 1921 to January 1922 they reached an average of If one could plot the curves of optimism and pessimism as exactly as one can plot the curves of prices and the volume more than $2,000,000 a day. Up to Sept. 15 1922, the Corporation had authorized nearly of production and consumption, one would find that they 7,000 loans, aggregating $183,000,000, to approximately 4,400 follow considerably behind the material conditions. Only banking institutions in the agricultural sections of the coun- the few anticipate events; the many stop, look and listen try; 750 loans, totaling $72,000,000, to live stock loan com- after the event is passed. panies; and advances aggregating $175,000,000 to co-operaPessimism Overcome. tive marketing associations. Altogether, the loans authorA disturbed state of mind produced by financial pre.armre ; ized for agricultural and live stock purposes, including exa combination of hopelessness and resentment over inability ports of agricultural products. totaled $470,000,000. at prevailing prices; These loans strengthened the banking situation in the to pay debts from the proceeds of sales and an apand relieved the necessity for forced liqui- a sense of injustice; disappointment in the past country districts hopeless outlook for the future were the salient dation. They put the banks in position not only to carry parently Corporation their farmer customers for a longer period, but also to make psychological facts in the situation when the new loans, and were a vital factor in bringing about a began to function under the powers granted by the Congress. marked improvement in the whole economic situation. Better The problem was twofold. It was necessary to furnish finanprices for farm products, renewed activity in the farming cial assistance quickly to large numbers of farmers and districts, and revival of business generally were within a stockmen, but it was even more vital to replace despair with few months reflected in the way in which repayments began renewed hope and to change the inaction of a discouraged people into the energy of restored confidence. to flow into the Corporation. Considering the vast sums that are required annually to Although the blighting effects of the agricultural depresstill in evidence, the change that has taken place finance our agricultural and live stock industries, the loans sion are within the past year is little short of remarkable. The farmer of the War Finance Corporation may seem relatively smalL spots In the situaand stockman are not completely out of the woods, but their But the money was directed to the weak is so vital to position has been immensely strengthened. The harvest tion and helped to restore that element which favorable, and, although there were declines re- all kinds of business—confidence. Even before the funds prospect is made available, a psychological recently in the prices of some commodities, most staple farm of the Corporation were considerably higher than they were in the sum- action took place and confidence began to return. The Chairproducts are man of one of the 33 agencies of the Corporation, for exammer and fall of last year. Cotton that sold at the farm for now worth approximately 20 cents; corn ple, reported that he had been able to stop the sacrifice of around 8 cents is points breeding herds and young cattle on the mere prospect of rehas advanced from about 20 cents at country elevator 158 BANKERS' CONVENTION. lief, before a dollar of the Corporation's funds reached his State. The loans of the Corporation not only helped directly the borrowing institutions and their farmer customers; they had a much more far-reaching effect upon the banks to which the Corporation made no loans at all. In places where some banks were weak and some were strong, it was found that the inability of the weak banks to serve their communities was matched by an unwillingness on the part of the strong banks to function in a normally confident and courageous way. Nor is this to be wondered at. Knowing well the overextended condition of their neighbor banks, the stronger institutions felt compelled to consider the necessity of remaining strong. The longer term rediscounts offered.by the War Finance Corporation to the over-extended banks, and the restoration of market values following relief from forced liquidation, encouraged that more normal operation of the stronger banks and that more liberal use of their resources which was warranted by the removal of the danger spots. War Finance Corporation Necessarily Temporary. The War Finance Corporation is essentially a temporary agency designed, to meet an emergency. Its highly centralized form of organization, with concentrated power and resources, was admirably suited to the grave crisis that confronted the country. In my opinion, however, it is entirely unsuited to the permanent banking structure of the nation. In determining what can be done by legislation to change or to improve and develop the machinery of banking to meet the needs of agriculture, we are bound to be influenced by the limitations of business administration. If the War Finance Corporation has succeeded in its efforts, it is because it has been able to enlist locally the services of some of the best bankers in the various States, working devotedly in the public interest without compensation and in a way that can only be expected temporarily and for the purpose of meeting an emergency. We know that, under normal conditions, it is not always possible to command the same talent and the same application, or to employ the same methods, in Government work as in private business. Under the circumstances, if we can find a solution for the permanent financing of agriculture through business channels, relying upon the Government only to authorize the proper machinery and to provide the necessary supervision and regulation, it will undoubtedly prove to be the better and more practical way. Agricultural Financing Measures Pending in Congress. Many measures dealing with agricultural and live stock financing are now pending in Congress. One bill, introduced by the Chairman of the House Committee on Banking and Currency, is based largely upon the experience of the War Finance Corporation. It provides, among other things, that agricultural paper having a maturity of not to exceed nine months and secured by non-perishable agricultural products, properly warehoused, shall be eligible for rediscount in the Federal Reserve System when issued as part of a program of orderly marketing. It gives the same privilege to ninemonths paper secured by live stock in process of fattening for market. It declares that paper of co-operative marketing associations, evidencing advances for agricultural purposes, is entitled to all the rediscount privileges of agricultural paper. The purpose of these provisions is to make more available to agriculture the great rediscount resources of the Federal Reserve System, in so far as this may be done safely and soundly. Liquidity of Loans Depends Upon Security Back of Them. We all recognize the desirability of maintaining the liquidity of the assets of the Federal Reserve System. The view seems to prevail in some quarters, however, that paper, In order to be liquid, must have a maturity of GO or 90 days. That view was largely imported from Europe, and particularly from those portions of Europe which are primarily industrial and commercial rather than agricultural. The fact that the Federal Reserve Act permits the rediscounting of agricultural paper with a maturity of six months, is only a partial recognition of the need for a differentiation between the time limits for agricultural and for commercial paper. A sharp distinction should be drawn between short-time bank paper and the question of the liquidity of the security that underlies bank paper, long or.short. For instance, the six and nine months' loans on wheat and cotton, made by the War Finance Corporation to co-operative marketing organizations, are as liquid, from the point of view of the security. as 90-day paper representing advances to merchants and manufacturers. Long-time paper may be more liquid as to security than short-time paper. It may not be as well adapted as an investment for all of a bank's funds, representing deposits payable on demand; but the experience of the War Finance Corporation has demonstrated that, when adequite financing for the time needed is provided, staple agricultural commodities are liquidated in an orderly way and, in fact, the liquid quality of the security is enhanced by a more gradual marketing process. During the past year it was clearly shown that commercial paper depends for its liquidity on the orderly buying of the manufactured goods, and that this orderly buying, in turn, depends largely upon a purchasing power based upon the orderly marketing of our basic agricultural products. Indeed, if our late experience established any definite differentiation between the liquidity of commercial paper and of paper based upon staple, non-perishable agricultural commodities, properly warehoused, it established the fact that • the latter is decidedly more liquid under adverse conditions than the former. At no time were such commodities so entirely unmarketable as were certain lines of manufactured products upon which the so-called liquid commercial paper was based. Eligible and Non-Eligible Paper. While it is important to safeguard the Federal Reserve System by proper restrictions regarding eligibe paper, it is equally important to safeguard the business of the country by avoiding discrimination against paper which may properly be considered as eligible. The System gave us banking elasticity in a way that was long necessary, but it also created a difference between different kinds of good paper. Before the System was established paper was judged on its merits. It was good or bad according to the worth of the maker and the security back of it. There was no distinction between different kinds of good paper, provided the banker or the investor was willing to lend for the length of time it was issued. But now good paper is classified either as good rediscountable paper or good paper that is not rediscountable; and bankers are considering their loans, even where they have no intention of using them for rediscount purposes, with regard to the requirements of eligibility. We are too apt to think of the Federal Reserve System only as adding a new facility and additional resources to our banking structure. But we must not overlook the fact that, while the System has greatly enhanced the desirability of eligible paper, it has correspondingly decreased the desirability of non-eligible paper, even though that paper may be satisfactory in every respect from the standpoint of security. Live Stock Financing. While modification of our banking conceptions and practices is essential to the more orderly marketing of our agricultural products, the live stock situation presents rather special problems. The live stock industry has never been properly financed. It involves a turn-over of two to three or three and a half years, and there is no "home" to-day for live stock paper of that duration. It is not suitable for banks of deposit, nor is it eligible for rediscount in the Federal Reserve System. The outside capital invested in the live stock industry has come largely from a restricted number of bankers who have had personal contact with it. So far, the industry has not been able to make a successful appeal on a broad scale to bankers outside of the live stock territory who are out of contact with the business, like those in New York, Boston and Philadelphia—great banking centres that stand ready STATE BANK DIVISION. 159 to furnish capital at reasonable rates on good security. No small, stockmen have been compelled to pay high rates of matter what form of organization for live stock financing interest on ranch mortgages, and even then it has been difmay be •developed, it is essential that the industry recon- ficult for them to get money. This was especially true a for capistruct its methods so as to provide that assurance of safety year and a half or two years ago, when competition which will induce the bankers of the financial centres of the tal forced up the price of financial accommodation so that country to make loans on live stock as readily as they do n even the best borrowers had to pay high rates on liquid securities. The market for land mortgages was at a great disad'dther commodities. of the American National Live Stock vantage, and this situation was undoubtedly responsible for At the recent meeting Association in Denver, I pointed out some needed reforms in some of the congestion in the banks of the live stock territhe industry. I urged the Association to study the best prac- tory, because they became loaded down with land loans. In tices that have been developed in the various States for the many cases they did not intend to make land loans; they protection of titles to live stock under mortg..ge; to canvass merely financed the current operations of the stockmen, but the best methods that have been devised for the protection of as these operations did not return the money loaned and frebrands and for safeguarding live stock from being stolen or quently involved heavy losses, they took mortgages on the shipped out of the State; and to organize and license a corps land as security. The Federal land banks have increased the scale of their of experienced and competent inspectors so that if a banker making a live stock loan is not entirely satisfied with the operations during the past year. They are now making loans representatiops of the borrower, he may be able to obtain a at the rate of approximately $18,000,000 a month, as against certificate of inspection made under the authority of the As- about $12,000,000 last fall. But in certain States, like Wysociation. These matters are of vital importance if the in- oming, Montana, Colorado, New Mexico and Texas, the need dustry wishes to enlist the capital of the great money centres. for mortgage money has not been adequately met by the Farm Loan System because of the limitation which prevents Loans Through, New Live Stock Loan Companies. the land banks from lending more than $10,000 to any one When the War Finance Corporation came into the critical borrower. That amount would not be very helpful to the situation last fall, it sought agencies through which it could Western grain farmer who cultivates an extensive acreage, place its funds safely without too much delay and too many nor to the stockman whose ranch, to be an economical propractical difficulties. The banks, generally speaking. had ducing unit, must be conducted on a fairly large scale. Recently a number of additional joint stock land banks, all the live stock paper they were able to carry. The large live stock loan companies not only were fully supplied with which are authorized to lend from $37,500 to $50,000 on one paper but were having a struggle to take care of it. In fact, holding of land, have been formed in the Western States, both the old loan companies and the banks were in urgent and they are meeting a very definite and pressing need. need of relief. Furthermore, with the general improvement in the financial When I was in the West in September a year ago, it be- situation, private investors and great lending institutions, came clear that new loan companies with fresh capital were which were attracted away from farm mortgage loans by necessary. Beginning with Salt Lake City, Cheyenne and the inducement of higher rates for commercial paper and Denver, and following later on with Fort Worth, Albu- short-time securities, are rapidly coming back into the marquerque and other Western live stock centres—from Mon- ket for such loans. In many districts a larger supply of tana and Oregon to New Mexico and Texas—we were able money on land at reasonable rates will be very helpful to the to get the local bankers and business men to organize new banks, and through the banks to the farmers, because it will loan companies, each with substantial capital, through result in the transfer of unliquid, so-called frozen, loans out which the Corporation could make live stock loans promptly of the banks, where they do not belong, into the hands of and on a large scale. Our loans on live stock total about long-term investors, where they do belong, and will thus $88,000,000, including approximately $16,000,000 to banks make it easier for the banks to finance the current agriculand about $72.000,000 to loan companies. The greater part • tural needs of the farmers. of the $72,000,000 was placed through the new companies. Co-operative Marketing Assooiations. When the need for new loan companies was apparent, the One of the most significant developments in the marketproblem was where to get the necessary capital. The banks ing of agricultural products in recent years is the growth of In some States subscribed very liberally. In fact, the capital the co-operative movement. Through further development of some of the companies came almost entirely from banks. improvement are not suitable, in un- along this line we may expect to see a definite While loans of the longer duration in our whole system of distributing farm commodities. limited amounts, for banks whose deposits are payable upon Generally speaking, the American producer has been demand, nevertheless, many banks are closely affiliated in to sell his crop hurriedly and at the time of maximum their current business with the people interested in the grow- forced supply. Within three or four months almost the entire proing end of the industry. From the fact that when called passed out of his hands, though twelve months upon they helped to organize the new companies, it has been duction has to the National are required for its consumption. The farmer's credit mabrought home to us that an amendment November. The merchant, who has proBanking Act might not be out of order, an amendment by tures in October or to subscribe vided him with supplies and equipment on credit, finds his which the national banks would be permitted during the same period, and presses the to the capital of live stock loan companies, such companies own bills maturing supervision. This would farmer for payment. There is a call for cash all down the to be subject to Federal banking bank in the city, from the counnot be an entirely new idea, because a somewhat similar line, from the correspondent in the Edge law, which was passed try bank and from the merchant. As soon, therefore, as the amendment was contained it is rushed to market. in December 1919, when the maintenance of our export trade crop is harvested, But the co-operative marketing associations are gradually thing from a financial point seemed to be the most important overcoming this situation. In the hands of the individual of view. loan companies, organized and farmer, his products have often been little more than an offI believe that live stock set against debts contracts in order to carry on his producowned locally, are the best agencies through which live stock will, in my opinion, prove to be ing operations. In the hands of the co-operative association, loans can be placed. They they can be assembled in quantity, graded and warehoused, more helpful than loan companies operating over unduly should be able to attract capital pledged as collateral for loans and marketed in an orderly extended areas, and they reason- way. The farmer is thus relieved of the necessity of selling from the more distant points on a sound basis and at during the annual "low" of the market, and distribution is able rates. adjusted to consuming demand. Land Credits. Cotton Situation Reached Through Co-operatives. There has never been a satisfactory market for mortgages the midst of the worst depression that the cotton indushow well In on land that is devoted to stock raising, no matter in many years. It was through the co-operasuited for the purpose. Although the valuations per acre are try has suffered 160 RANKERS' CONVENTION. tive marketing associations that the War Finance Corporation developed plans for extending assistance to the industry on a comprehensive scale. In the summer of 1921, when cotton was quoted at around 8 cents a pound at country points and when business throughout the cotton belt was in a demoralized condition, the Corporation made its first large loan to an association in Mississippi on 100,000 bales of cotton. The cotton was classified by the Association according ,to grade and staple and placed in bonded warehouses under inspection. The loan enabled the association not only to make advances to its members for their urgent financial needs, but also to market the crop through a greater portion of the consuming year instead of forcing it on a demoralized market. Within a week or ten days, other loans were authori zed on a similar basis to cotton co-operatives in Oklaho ma on 200,000 bales and in Texas on 300,000 bales. There immediately followed a radical change in the cotton situatio n. Confidence was restored, other avenues of credit were opened up, buyers began to resume purchases on a liberal scale, and more normal conditions, both with regard to prices and volume of business, ensued. The change was promptly reflected in improved general business throughout the South. for systems of credit unions similar to those that exist in Europe, but the large co-operative marketing associat ions, as we know them, have grown up naturally in respons e to our own peculiar needs and economic conditions. Keynote of Policy for Agricultural Financing. Agricultural financing must be based, first of all, upon the fundamental facts of American agriculture and, second, upon the existing economic and financial structure of the country. Not to meet the first requirement is to force agriculture into the impossible position of endeavoring to make production and distribution conform to banking practice s. Not to meet the second is to weaken rather than strengt hen the financial machinery of the nation. The keynote of our national policy should be the development of the usefulness of the Federal Reserve ,System to the maximum. New machinery should be held to the minimum. The Federal Reserve System is, and should remain, the great banking rediscount organization of this country. Nothing should be done to impair its strength; evelything should be done to extend its usefulness in proper way. It would be uneconomical and unsound—it would be the height of folly— to set up other agencies for doing the things the System can and should do. Not only that, but agriculture is entitled Co-operative Movement Spreading. to the best banking rediscount facility, and It should not be The success of these cotton co-operatives has encouraged satisfied with a second-class facility, such as is contemplated the spread of the movement; and many new associat ions by some of the measures pending in Congres s, when the adhave been organized for the handling of cotton, wheat, to- justment of the eligibility rules of the Federal Reserve Sysbacco, rice and other staple products. tem to the business involved in the orderly marketi ng of The War Finance Corporation has already authori zed agricultural products would give it a first-class facility. loans totaling more than $110,000,000 to co-operative marPaper based upon the security of non-perishable commod keting associations to assist in financing the orderly market- ities should be made eligible for redisco unt for the length of ing of the 1922 crops. It is expected that only a portion of time necessary to market a season's product before the next this amount will be actually advanced and that the banks harvest. It is idle to designate as speculation the carrying in the interested districts will do the major part of the fi- of agricultural commodities by farmers or farmers' organinancing for the associations. That is what happened last zations for orderly marketing, or to say that by forcing the year. While the Corporation agreed to lend approximately products out of the hands of the producers specula tion will $64,000,000 to co-operative marketing associationc in all be avoided. Somebody must carry crops between seasons. parts of the country, on such products as cotton, wheat, rice, We eat bread the year around, but wheat is planted, cultipeanuts and tobacco, only slightly more than $18,000,000 was vated and harvested within a few months. And so it is with actually used. It is gratifying to note that this year the other farm commodities. When an agricult ural product has large Eastern financial centres are showing a decided interbeen produced, either the consumer must buy it and carry it est in the financing of such associations, and considerable until it is actually needed, or the dealer who supplies the amounts will be made available from these centres in addiconsumer must do so, or the jobber must stand between the tion to the advances provided by the local banks. producer and the manufacturer who ultimate ly takes it for Management a Vital Factor. distribution to the consumer, or, going back still farther, the Co-operative marketing associations have a definite place producer himself must find ways and means of carrying his in our economic structure. If they are soundly organized and product and marketing it gradually. competently managed, they are bound to be helpful not only Those who object to adjusting the eligibility rules of the to the agricultural interests themselves but to the business Federal Reserve System to the time required for the orderly of the country at large. Management is as vital a factor in marketing of agricultural products seem to fear that the the success of co-operative enterprises as of any other busi- soundness of the System will be jeopardized. But the Sysness organization. Without good management they cannot tem suffers from friends as well as from foes—those who deestablish and maintain that degree of confidence in the fend its every act and policy and who stand for the immutasoundness of their operaticns which is absolutely essential. bilitay of Its present law and regulations may be as harmful I am glad to say that the relations of the War Finance Cor- as those who are extreme in their denunciation. of the part poration with the associations to which it has made loans played by it in the collapse of commodity markets and prices. have been satisfactory. They have met the requirements The true friends of the Federal Reserve System are those and regulations of the Corporation in a whole-hearted way who are willing to see its machinery adjusted along sound and have conducted their operations in a thoroughly busi- lines to meet changed conditions, both in this country and ness-like manner in almost every case. They have not only abroad. made considerable progress in bringing about more uniform Difficulties Involved in Dual System of Banking. grading and classification, furnishing a better basis for Our national policy should not only look toward the furcredit and insuring the more efficient handling of the prodther development of the Federal Reserve System; it should uct, but they have erected machinery which will greatly farecognize also the fundamental importance of welding into cilitate the gradual, orderly distribution of the products of a closer and more harmonious unit the different elements their members. that make up our banking structure. The recent crisis Many plans have been proposed in this country for financbrought to light many difficulties in connection with our ing the farmer. Most of them have involved the theory of dual system of banking. co-operation, but many have had little in common with the The United States is a union of sovereign States and from selling co-operatives as they have developed in America. the beginni ng each State has had its own banking machinery. They have been based rather on the principles of the Euro- In the early stages of our national life, central banks were pean co-operative credit societies, or upon some other type of chartered by the Federal Government on two occasions. But co-operative agency that has not been tried out here. There each bank went out of existence at the expiration of its charmay be a place in the older and more densely settled com- ter for politica reasons or on account l of the opposition of munities, under State authorization and State superviion, the State banks. On Feb. 25 1863 the National Banking Act STATE BANK DIVISION. 161 testing against the action of the Corporation, although apparently he was entirely willing that the banks under his jurisdiction should come to the Federal Government for financial aid. Competition Between State and National Banking Systems. The State banking laws frequently permit practices which national banks cannot legally engage in. This is creating competition between the two systems which cannot be regarded as wholesome and may lead to the gradual weakening of both. The question of branch banking is one that is causing considerable discussion at the present time. Some of the States permit branch banking on an unlimited scale. As a result, agitation is now going on for an amendment to the National Banking Act to put national banks on a par with State banks in this respect. Branch banking may be good or it may be bad. It may be good if carried on in a limited way; and bad if permitted on an extensive scale. But whether it is good or whether it is bad, branch banking should be considered on its merits and should not be the product of competition in the endeavor to expand either the State or the national banking organizations. The competition that exists at the present time between State and national banks cannot fail to remind one of the competition that prevailed a generation ago among the various States seeking to become domiciles for corporations—a competition that was based upon the laxity of the laws governing incorporation. Nothing could be more disastrous than competition between the State and national banking groups based cent difficulties. in laxity. Many causes are assigned for the failure of such a large upon competition Banking supervision naturally varies, in form and degree, State banks to enter the Federal proportion of the eligible in the different States. While in some it is quite unexcepReserve System. I will not undertaken to enumerate these that it is on a low as familiar with them as I am. Though tionable, in others experience has shown causes here. You are because level of efficiency. And there is one important class of many State banks have remained out of the System is not subject to any banking suthey object to its supervisory powers, yet they do not hesitate financing institution that funds fur- pervision whatever, either State or nirtional. I refer to live to advocate a rediscount system operating with cases have made nished, directly or indirectly, by the Federal Government, stock loan companies, which in numerous will nec- advances ranging from ten to twenty times their capital. ignoring completely the fact that any such system not be permitted to conessarily carry with it the banking supervision of the Fed- This situation is one that should tinue. No reason is apparent why such financial institutions eral Government. imFurthermore, we all know that State banks and State should not be subjected to supervision similar to that banking officials are frequently jealous of their autonomy posed upon State and national banks. We are at a parting of the ways, and now is the time for and authority. Let me cite one case in point: Two State we are going. We banks in the West made application to the War Finance Cor- us to determine the direction in which These banks found themselves in must decide whether we shall continue the more or less happoration for an advance. banking machinery, or whether a difficult situation and were in urgent need of funds to tide hazard development of our n decided to ask the Comptroller our action shall proceed along lines based upon a comprethem over. The Corporatio the country, bringing our entire of the Currency to make an examination of the banks. The hensive view of the needs of I may add, specifically author- banking structure and resources into a more harmonious law under which we operate, n. The subject is one that demands izes such examinations, provided the consent of the banks and unified organizatio within a short time we received the earnest and thoughtful consideration of the members of concerned is obtained. But the American Bankers Association. a letter from the Banking Commissioner of the State pro- became law, and on Oct. 1 of the same year 66 national banks had been organized. Two years later the number had increased to 1,566, and the National banking system has concontinued to expand until to-day we have 8,154 national banks. The number of State banking institutions also has continued to increase and now there are approximately 22,600, of which 21,000 are functioning solely under the jurisdiction of the various States. -Member Banks Seek Assistance in Times of Stress. N6 With the establishment of the Federal Reserve System in 1914, the national banks became members of the System. Notwithstanding- the fact, however, that more than 11,000 State institutions are now eligible for membership, only about 1,600 have joined. And yet in times of stress the nonmember banks are in greatest need of access to a central reservoir of credit. This is conclusively proved by the experience of the War Finance Corporation during the past year. Approximately 85% of the banks to which the Corporation has made loans are State institutions and only about 15% are national banks. In terms of dollars, the loans of the Corporation to State banks constitute 80% of the whole. And these figures do not take into account the large advances made to live stock loan companies which are organized under State laws. The fact that two-thirds of all the banks in the country, representing 30% of our total banking resources, have no direct relation to the Federal Reserve System is undoubtedly responsible, in part at least, for some of our re- Practical Problems of State Banking By MARSHALL COUSINS, Commissioner of Banking of the State of Wisconsin. Since the assignment of this subject to me by your worthy President, I have made an effort to find banking problems which were confined exclusively to the institutions operating under State charters and State supervision. My efforts have been without avail. There appear to be no particular problems confronting the State banking institutions which do not also affect those chartered by the Federal Government. Banks operating under national charters, State charters, or as private institutions, all occupy the same position in their relations to the public. In this day all banks are expected to receive the deposits of the public and to furnish accommodations to the public in the way of loans. There are the bank of the present many other types of service which whole our banking instituday is expected to render. As a worthy of the confidence tions, both State and national, are acceptably the service for of the people and are rendering which they were organized. The last compilation of statistics of the banking resources of this great nation was compiled from the figures shown by the call of March 10 1922 by the Hon. R. N. Sims, Secretary of the National Association of Supervisors of State Banks, and I might say incidentally, Vice-President of the Hibernia Bank & Trust Co. of New Orleans, of which institution the President of this Division is also President. This compilation showed 30,499 banks reporting to the Comptroller of the Currency and the State Banking Departments. Eight thousand nine hundred and seventeen of the banks so reporting were national banks, and 22,802 were banks chartered by the various States, or private institutions under supervision of the State Banking Departments. The total deposits carried by the State banking institutions were $23,510,877,185 07, and by the national banks, $15,390,438,000. 162 BANKERS' CONVENTION. The total resources of the State banking institutions exYou gentlemen here assembled are practical bankers and ceeded the total resources of the national banks by $8,958,- have before you thVse matters for consideration at all times. 151,357 84. I do not propose to take your time to discuss the many and Mr. Sims's compilation shows total resources of all banks varied problems of our banks in detail. on March 10 to have been $48,658,955,357 84. I feel that it will not be improper to say a little something It must be remembered that in these figures there is not before this Division as to the usefulness and the value of included several billion dollars of resources of savings and our State banking institutions : loan associations, banking institutions of special character, Many of our citizens whose lives have been spent in the and in the returns for some of the States, trust company cities do not realize the services rendered to the commercial banks are not included. interests of the country by the so-called "country We all realize that the rural communities are first and banks." directly served by the small State bank in their localities. Many of our metropolitan newspapers praptically ignore the Thousands of the smaller towns have no national banks and country bank. To their minds there is but one system and are served entirely by the State banking institutions. that the National System. Problems confronting these small institutions are also the The figures which I gave you a few moments ago should problems of the banks in larger towns and cities, as through demonstrate the value, the usefulness, the services and the our system the banks in the larger cities and the commercial necessity for these country bank. centres assist the rural banks in carrying their burdens and The world is still passing through the turmoil and the conmust naturally be as much interested in the solution of the fusion occasioned by the efforts of a certain ambitious man problems confronting these small banks as is the small insti- of Europe to become the world master. Upon this country, tution itself. totally unprepared, was thrown a task of gigantic magnitude. The rural bank located, possibly, at the crossroads, where It became necessary for the financial institutions of the nathe only other business may be the general store, possibly a tion to finance innumerable enterprises called into being by creamery, often a garage, which in former days was a black- the war. smith shop, and one or two residences, is called upon to carry Through the banks the Government placed billions of dolburdens of the people of its locality far beyond its own abil- lars of bonds. The burdens of war could not have been carity. These institutions turn to the larger town of the county, ried had it not been for the close co-operation of the banking and from the bank in that town receive assistance through institutions. The country banks did their full share in assistthe placing of bills payable or by rediscounts. Later the ing to finance the Government through the sale of bonds bank in the large town of the county finds the requirements and carrying local burdens. made by the smaller banks are beyond its powers to meet, The State banking institutions are not of necessity conand it becomes necessary for these banks to go to its corre- fined to the rural districts. We find in our great cities instispondent in the city for assistance, and through this process tutions chartered by the State carrying heavier deposits and eventually the great banks in the commercial centres, and doing a greater volume of business than many of the nathe Federal Reserve banks, have taken up their share of the tional banks. burdens. Consequently, the problems of the small State I recognize the value of our national banks, but I am a banks have become the problems of the larger banks, both thorough believer In our dual banking system. Through the State and Federal. The officers and directors of these banks wise legislation of the majority of the States the difference become as much interested in finding a proper solution as the between the State banks and the national banks as to reguofficers and directors of the small bank first affected. lations and supervision has become but nominal. It is as One of the great problems confronting the banks annually essential for banks under national charters as it is for those is that of financing the agricultural operations during the under State charters to conduct their affairs upon the lines growing season and the marketing of the crops. Without laid down by the laws under which they operate, and the co-operation all along the line this would be exceedingly dif- rules of conservative banking methods. "Rigid observance ficult of accomplishment. of all statutory provisions" should be the motto of the banks This is not a new problem confronting banks, it has been everywhere, and, I believe, in the vast majority of institua problem from the time of General Alexander Hamilton, tions it is the motto. It is only through the rigid observance and the bank planned and organized by him had as one of its of laws, lawful department regulations, and due respect for objects the handling of this problem. conservative banking methods that banks can maintain the It is to the country bank that those devoting their atten- confidence of the people of their immediate community upon tion to agricultural pursuits first turn. The neighborhood whom they must depend for their success. Public confidence bank must furnish the funds needed during the growing sea- is the greatest asset a bank can have. It does not appear son and must finance the moving of the crops. It would in- upon the face of the published statement, but without it a deed be a problem for these small and most necessary insti- bank cannot hope to retain its business and must eventually tutions could they not depend upon the larger banking insti- close its doors. tutions in the commercial centres for assistance. There is a place in our commercial life for national banks Another problem confronting all banks alike, but possibly and a place for State banks. Both systems are of value to the smaller banks to a greater extent than the larger, and in the nation, and each has its special sphere of usefulness. The many localities a condition which has not arisen before for existence of two systems is a safeguard and a check upon the many years, is the liquidation of so-called frozen loans. .This Congress and the State legislative bodies, and the public is Is not a problem of the State banks alone. It is a problem accordingly protected and benefited. Should it come to pass receiving the thought and attention of all banks alike. While the Congress endeavors to inflict unjust legislation upon the in many instances considerable time will be required, by co- national banks they can surrender their national charters operation of banks and the application of the rule of common and organize under the law of the State in which they are sense, the problem can be successfully solved. located. Should the Legislature of any State inflict unjust I was particularly impressed by the concrete and concise legislation upon the banks operating under the laws of that advice given by Dr. Benjamin M. Anderson in an address be- State, the banks can surrender the State charter and take fore a bankers' association in the West several months ago. out a national charter. Referring to the problems left by the war conditions, the And now a word as to the Federal Reserve System: A Doctor advocated the following rules: great many eligible State banks have not taken membership 1. Liberal lending to protect the solvent business man, and to give him In the System. One reason for this perhaps is that the banks time to turn around. 2. Pressure, however, upon debtors who were using credit as a means of In the commercial centres in many parts of the country do staving off losses. not encourage their smaller correspondent banks to take such 8. More definitely and more vigorously, a refusal to extend credits to really membership , as they prefer to furnish them with the accominsolvent businesses; BUT modations which they could obtain, if members, from the 4. The necessity of continuing the regular loaning operations of banks to enable current production and marketing to go on. Federal Reserve Bank. STATE BANK DIVISION. I question the wisdom of this method, and I believe it is more desirable that the eligible banks, who find it necessary during certain seasons of the year to obtain help from other banks through borrowing of money, should take membership in the System that they may transact their business direct ..with the Federal Reserve Bank of their district. The larger the membership of State banks in the Federal Reserve System, the greater will be the influence of these banks in determining legislation affecting the system. The Federal Reserve System was not organized for the especial benefit of the national banks. Its purpose was to serve the country, and the State banks should feel that the system is for them as well as for the institutions chartered by the Federal Government. From practical experience in both State and national banks, I can see but little difference between them. There 163 should be no difference. The same rigid supervision of the supervising authority and the same conservative policy of the management should apply to both classes of banks. They are all organized for the same purpose and should render the public the same service. There should be no friction between the banks of the two systems. It is for their own good and for the public good that there should be co-operation. I believe we will more closely approach the ideal situation when for the welfare of nation-wide credit and trade and of national solvency the two banking systems, the State and the Federal, each supreme and useful in its own functions, can be made as one in matters of mobilization of reserve, currency supply and efficient supervision. The Congress and the Legislatures of the respective Commonwealths should be urged to place upon the statute books laws which will bring this about. COMMITTEE AND OFFICERS' REPORTS-STATE BANK DIVISION Report of Federal Legislative Committee. Mr. Guy E. Bowerman: The Federal Legislative Committee of the State Bank Division has kept in close touch with the work of the same actively committee of the Association, but has not found it necessary to engage in legislative matters as there has been no conflict of interest, l and, in consequence, no occasion to take advantage of the constitutiona right of independent action in legislation affecting the State Bank Division. ourselves of the constitutional While we should not hesitate to avail privilege should necessity require, the committee feels that its activities should be should be more defensive than offensive, and that our position new. that of combating unwise or harmful legislation rather than to initiate a legislative way, to the best • In the absence of anything inimical, in Interests of the State Bank Division during the past year, we find ourselves have generally in sympathy with the program of the Association and supported it accordingly. in January, to which were The committee held a meeting at Chicago of invited several bankers who are especially interested in the welare agriculture and any proposed legislation for its benefit. While no definite satisaction on the part of the committee was requested, a mutually factory understanding was reached. I approach, with some hesitation, the question of branch banking, although it was discussed at the Chicago meeting, where there was an absence of complete harmony of thought, but, after all, no such divergence of opinion as to prevent an amicable agreement. None of the committee present have been in the past, are at this time, or expect to be in the future, advocates of branch banking as an integral part of our great financial system. At the same time we all acknowledge, I think, that we are confronted by a fact and not a theory. We recognize that branch banking has arrived. We recognize that ten or twelve States either allow or authorize State-chartered institutions to engage in branch banking, and, such being the case, we believe there should be no discrimination against national banks in those States. The spirit of justice and right, the spirit of fair play, and the American spirit of equal opportunity make no other attitude tenable. But this committee, and this Division, stand unanimously for the protection and wellbeing of that great body of American citizens designated as the "Small Town Banker," who must abandon his chosen profession and seek other means of livelihood if branch banking is not in some way limited. The question now is not, "Shall we have branch banking?" but rather, "What shall we do with branch banking?" It isn't "going to arrive". It's here, and those who do not look this fact squarely in the face are, I think, standing in their own light. 'rhere will be no attempt, in this report, to discuss the merits or demerits of this mooted questions. The American Bankers Association is on record as being opposed to branch banking. This Division has taken a very positive stand against it, and yet the practice grows rapidly and is gaining ground almost daily. It has ceased to be a matter of ethics, resolutions or recommendations and has resolved itself into a matter of Federal and State legislation—State legislation, in fact, almost exclusively, and this rests largely with the bankers in their respective States. If you do not want branch banking in your State, since you are alive to the probabilities of the situation, you should use your best efforts to prevent the enactment of legislation which makes it possible. If the present laws are unsatisfactory, endeavor to correct them by elimination or amendment. Both this Association and this Division are bound by resolution in general convention and will, I am positive, use all honorable means to protect the interests of the unit banker who constitutes such a majority of its membership, but, as I see it, the future expansion of branch banking or its regulation and control rests with the bankers themselves in their respective States. Personally, I have two well-established convictions, the first of which is that it is supremely selfish and unworthy of us and just bordering on cowardice to deny national banks the privilege which their competitors. the State banks, enjoy; second, that just ordinary business prudence and foresight as well as our own protection in the future prompt us to direct our effort toward circumscribing branch banking to cities of one hundred thousand population or more and limit them to this field. Again, I feel sure that the city banker, in his espousal of branch banking, does not seek to monopolize the banking business of the country, but is actuated by the sincere desire to more effectually serve his community, and if we will aid, or at least not oppose, this worthy ambition, I have sufficient confidence in the fair-mindedness of this class of bankers to and leave undisturbed believe that they will revect our wishes in return the field now occupied by the smaller banks. OPINION REGARDING BRANCJFI BANKING ELIMINATED. Mr. Scudder (Passaic, N. J.): I move, Mr. Chairman, that we sti ike out all that part of this report which refers to the personal opinion of Chairman Bowerman. While the Chairman of the Federal Legislative Committee states that branch banking has arrived, he does so only as to the twelve States which have adopted branch banking. Branch banking may have arrived in the twelve States he refers to, and his recommendation is excellent which says "that if the present laws are unsatisfactory, you should endeavor to correct them by elimination or amendment." That is fine. I echo that sentiment: but tie winds up his report by practically recommending that we adopt in principle the branch banking for all the States to the extent of cities having one hundred thousand population or more. This be frankly admits is a personal proposition, a personal suggestion on his part, and has nothing to do, it seems to me, with the thought which comes before us as a convention for adoption. I trust I will have a second to my motion that all of that portion of bis report which begins,"Personally, I have two well established convictions"—you will find it at the end of the report on this sheet, going over onto the next column. President Hecht: Gentlemen, may I be permitted to interrupt Mr. Scudder for just a moment? I would like to make this suggestion, that there will be plenty of additional discussion of the branch banking problem betore this meeting adjourns. My suggestion is—of course it is up to you to decide what you want to do—to let all of the reports be read and filed, not approved, and that leaves open all these matters for future discussion. lam afraid that unless we do that, our whole program will be out of joint. I want to assure Mr. Scudder that there is no desire to cut short the discussion on that subject, because I know from the program that is before us that you will bear a good deal more about it in the course of the afternoon. If that is satisfactory to you. Mr. Scudder, I would offer that. Mr. Scudder: Mr. Chairman, I would be very glad to adopt that suggestion, were it possible for me to be all the time at this meeting; but I am here away from my duties and I really ought to be in the bank right now. My Cashier is away and I am very busy, and particularly interested in this part of the convention's exercises, and it seems to me that it is hardly fair to postpone this, because I can't be here later, and I don't see why we shouldn't take up a simple proposition of that kind that is so plain to us as an organman's ization representing State barks, because It is as plain as the nose on a personal face that the report is a report of the Committee until it gets to the equation. while Mr. Bow. President Hecht: It is only fair to say, Mr. Scudder, that report is signed erman unfortunately used the personal pronoun, that that not trying to cut short the by all of the members of the Committee. I am the purpose of exdiscussion on branch banking. I only appeal to you, for one time, instead of pediting our program, to let that subject come up all at having partial discussions at different parts of the meeting. 's motion, if I am, however, ready to entertain a second to Mr. Scudder there is one. because we do Mr. Rathje (Chicago): This is the time to consider that, Many of us have not want that part to go into the report if we can help it. the present moment, come away from busy banks, where we ougtt to be at This convento protect our interests. We are all here for that purpose. question has attracted great attention because it is the most momentous tion of the day and we must protect ourselves hi every step we take. seconding Mr. ScudTherefore, Mr. Chairman, I take the privilege of der's motion. The question was called for. the last President Ilecht: You have heard Mr. Scudder's metier, that Committee be two paragraphs of the report of the Federal Legislative Is that stricken out and that the report be then received and approved. your motion? Mr. Scudder: Be received and filed. "aye"; opl'resident Hecht: All those in favor of the motion please say posed "no." The motion was carried. Report of State Legislative Committee. the State Mr. D.M. Armstrong: The Committee on State Legislation of Legislation of Bank Division has co-operated with the Committee on State recommended by the Association in promotion of the enactment of bills regular sessions the Association. Only nine State legislatures have held has been during the year, and in some of them no banking legislation General passed. In South Carolina the Bank Slander Bill, drafted by our phraseology from the Counsel, was passed, but in somewhat different that "any person who shall falsely and recommended .draft. It provides 164 BANKERS' CONVENTION. willfully and with intent to injure, circulate any report, or make any false statement as to the assets or liabilities of any bank in South Carolina, or to its solvency or ability to meet its obligations, or as to its soundness; or who shall make any other false statement, calculated to affect the credit or standing of said bank, or to cast suspicion upon its solvency, soundness or ability to meet its deposits or other obligations in due course, shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor," and provides a fine of not less than 8100 nor more than MO or imprisonment not more than one year, or both, in the discretion of the court. In Virginia a law has been passed prohibiting the organization of a bank by stock promoters. In Mississippi a law was passed providing for the exemption of all taxation of income on deposit in bank, both upon time and savings. Our Committee pledges its continued co-operation with the Committee on State Legislation of the American Bankers Association for the campaign of 1923, during which year forty-one State legislatures will hold regular sessions, and especially in the promotion of an amendment of the Negotiable Instruments Act that will protect banks which certify checks which have been altered before certification. Report of Farm Finance Committee. President Hecht: The next report is the report of the Farm Finance Committee. I am very sorry to have to tell you that Mr. J. D. Phillips, the Chairman of that Committee, who has done very hard and intelligent work during the entire year, has recently been stricken with a rather serious illness and is still confined to his home and was unable to come. In his absence we have asked Mr. Gordon of Missouri to read his report. Mr.'Gordon: Accompanying the report of Mr. Phillips is a letter to Mr. Allen, our Deputy Manager, of rather a personal nature, in which he states that he violated the instructions of his doctors and son in order to compile this report. The last paragraph, I think, will be well to read to this meeting. He sends his kind personal regards and best wishes for the success of the whole convention and with special interest in the State Bank Division. Report of Public Service Committee, Mr. H. A McCauley: The words "Public Service" were adopted at th. Los Angeles Convention as a name for the committee theretofore known as the Public Relations Committee in order that there might be no confusion with the work of the Public Relations Commission of the Amer:can Bankers' Association. The work previously undertaken by the Public Relations Committee of the State Bank Division was then, and for that reason,assumed by the Public Service Committee, for the activities of which this report is meant to account. During the year previous to this administration your committee had undertaken to have prepared and published full data of State banks, which should be given, if possible, equal publicity with that of national banks. The work accomplished toward that end has been followed up this year, and, while the publicity is not yet as far reaching as we hope to make it, no doubt State banks have been benefited, and the work will be carried on. Your Committee at its first meeting this year decided to prepare and submit to the membership of the Division a list of questions intended to to bring out an expression as to what was of greatest moment to State banks, what most desirable and expedient to take up that would be of benefit to the greatest number, and whatthe committee might undertake in any way that would be of service to our members. The response, while not as general as we wished, brought forth many ideas and expressions from a large number not heretofore heard from but whose importance to our Division is such that we desire to acknowledge our appreciation of the interest manifested. One meeting of our Committee was held Dec. 15 1921,in Chicago, where a majority wore present together with President Hecht and Chairman John D. Phillips of the Farm Finance Committee of this Division. At that meeting, following suggestions from President Hecht, it was decided to eliminate from our work anything of a general character which might and should properly be undertaken by the Public Reattions Commission of the American Bankers Association. It was brought out at this meeting that the Public Relations Commission was performing air work of a character to benefit the Association as a whole and that due care should be taken that no work be duplicated for the benefit of any group at added expense to the whole Administrative Committee. For this reason no further expense was incurred, but our Secretary has accomplished through his office a great deal of the work outlined by your committee, and President Hecht has given his time and splendid ability to set forth work that the State Bank Division might properly undertake. One subject which has been under discussion by your Committee and which has been clearly explained by President Hecht in a recent very able address is that of Co-operative Marketing. This question is of extreme Importance and most timely because of the strong co-operation existing in almost every faction of Capital and Labor, and because of the general prostration that exists with farmers marketing most essential commodities such as wheat, cotton and other staple necessities, such as live stock. dairy and poultry products. The co-operative movement cannot gain great momentum without the support of country bankers, and it would appear to be the special function of this Committee and this Division to put forth a united effort to accomplish its complete organization and effective working order, thus benefiting those most who can benefit us. In concluding this report we emphasize that PUBLICITY is a function of the Public Service Committee. Mouth-to-mouth and hand-to-hand publicity of the TRUTH about the banking business and every kindred line of business which handles capital, which is properly apportioned and exploited for the benefit of the greatest number, is the antidote for the agitator and the Bolshevist. The demagogue and cheap politician who rides into public office all too often upon a platform or program villiof fication of those who are entrustedovith the wealth and credit of community centres, should have the light of "Pitiless Publicity" focused upon them. Our country is infested with these parasites and imposters, and the powers of this Association should be used to combat this worst of evils. Not enough of our mmbership are active and outspoken; ant it is our desire to cultivate mutual acquaintance, extablish and perpetuate a better relationship, and draw from our rank and file everywhere ideas and information that will make this Division most useful to its membership and to the American Bankers Association as a whole. REPORT. "Your special Committee on Farm Finance, appointed a year ago, after the convention at Los Angeles, California, would beg leave to submit the following report. "Your Committee met in Chicago in November, 1921, and discussed quite thoroughly the financial situation of the American farmer. The Committee took the privilege of appointing a sub-committee to do the active preliminary work, on account of the great expense and time it would take for the whole committee to meet. Mr. George Woodruff of Joliet, Mr. B. A. Molenpaugh of Milwaukee and your Chairman were appointed as the sub-committee. We held many meetings in Chicago and had before us some of the very best men in this part of the country, if we may judge from experience and ability along their particular line of business. "After due consideration this sub-committee concluded that the ideal banking system for long-time credits to the farmer, or in ocher words, investment credits, would be the development of the Federal Land Bank System in such a way that all banks might become members of it, very much in the same way that banks are now members of the Federal Reserve System, and that the banks might make loans and function in exactly the same way that the Farm Loan Associations now do,thereby building up in this country two wonderful banking systems—the Federal Reserve System, which in our judgment is the greatest piece of financial legislation ever enacted in any country in the world, whereby the commercial needs of the farmer as well as all others might be cared for, and the Federal Farm Land Banks System, through which the long-time loan, or investment credits, might be placed. "Your Committee made a trip to Washington, D. C., and after some investigation discovered, or rather was convinced of what we had been told about, that the political selfishness of certain organizations, whose existence was maintained for political purposes, made it impossible for us to get through a law of the above described nature, so the next thing to do was to get the same results, if possible, in a different way. "Your Committee therefore recommends that a sufficient number of Joint Stock Land Banks be established and the Federal Farm Loan System be so developed as to take care of the long time or investment credits of the American farmer. The War Finance Corporation has filled a very great need during the depression which we have been and are still passing through, Report of Committee on Exchange, by Chas. deB. Claiborne, Chairman Whitney Central Trust and should be highly commended for the service it has rendered and Its operation continued until such a time as amendments can be made to the & Savings Bank, New Orleans. Federal Reserve Banking Law. enabling Federal Reserve banks to rediscount certain kinds of agricultural and cattle paper for at least nine months. President Hecht: The next report is one of considerable importance and I say nine months because the leading minds in the banking business seem will be presented by a gentleman who has given a great deal of his time and to have agreed on nine months, but in the judgment of your Chairman, the thought to a problem in which a very large percentage of our membership time should be twelve months. Only 18% of tbe business done by the Fed- has been interested for many years; the report of the Committee on Exeral Reserve banks of the country is of an agricultural nature, and the paper change by Mr. Claiborne. carrying the twelve months' mautrity would be of such a small percentage Mr. Chas. de13. Claiborne: Mr. Chairman, Ladies and Gentlemen: It of the 18% that it would be infinitesimal in the enormous amount of busi- is not my purpose to abuse your good nature by taking all of your valuable ness transacted by the said Federal Reserve banks. There is a certain time in a long discussion on the technical or academic side of exchange on amount of business that both farmers and stock men transact that demands checks. Your Committee feels that we have discussed this matter at a credit of twelve months, and I am a firm believer that all business in a several meetings before this one, that you should therefore be now prepared community should be handled by the local banks and they in turn should be to act, but we likewise feel that we should advise you as to the status of in a position to rediscount all legitimate paper of this character at the Fed- the litigation. A suit was filed in Atlanta, in 1920. That suit finally eral Reserve Bank. went to the Supreme Court of the United States. That Court said: "There has been much agitation and many bills before Congress, the pur"The United States did not intend by that Statute (Federal Reserve pose of which was to establish in this country a third banking institution, Act)to sanction this sort of warfare upon legitimate creations of the States." known as an Intermediary Credit System, Your Chairman has been from That decision was the culmination of an action of which we complained the start and now is positively and absolutely opposed to anything of this and of which we complained the Federal Reserve banks and Board at kind, although the War Finance Corporation has acted in this capacity and Washington were to blame. The offenses that we complained of existed has rendered a very greatly needed service to the country; but in my humble in a number of districts. In the case of California, the Court said: opinion, with the Federal Reserve Act amended along the lines as above sug"The testimony here impels me to the conclusion that the Federal gested, and the development of Joint Stock Land Banks and the Federal Reserve Bank has gone to the length of endeavoring to coerce the Brookings Land Banks, there will never be a need of such an institution. However, Bank to accede to its demand that the latter bank agree to remit at par. Your Chairman recommends that a law be enacted permitting the establish- Its purpose is obvious, &c." ment of private corporations under the supervision and direction of the FedThe Court came to that conclusion and cited the two letters which eral Government, for the purpose of taking care of the intermediary credit you will find on the reverse of the pamphlet which you have on your chair. It said: "If we continue to accept exchange we are of course extracting should there ever be a need of such a thing in this country. "Your Committee has been in close touch and co-operation with Mr.J. R. the sting from our direct collections." You gentlemen know well enough what that means. The contention Howard, President of the American Farm Bureau Federation, and his adof your committee had been for years that the purpose of the Federal visers during.the last year. Reserve banks and Boards at Washington in attempting to collect coecks "Respectfully submitted, over the counter was not merely for the purpose of collecting the checks J. D. PHILLIPS. Chairman. but was absolutely for the purpose of intimidating, annoying and forcing W. C. GORDON. M. H. MALOTT, that bank to remit at par, and up to the time that this letter was found. GRANT McPHERRIN, O. A, HOLDERNESS." we did not have the positive evidence, but I believe that you gentlemen STATE BANK DIVISION. 165 should be convinced of the charges that we made when we offer this letter number of years had agents. In the very suit that I cited to you the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco paid $4,000 to collect 16100,000 worth in evidence and it is confirmed by the judgment of a Federal Court. That same Court went on to say: "Shortly after all the banks in the of checks, which the bank was willing to do for $100; in other words, they country have had time to consider becoming par voluntarily, it will be expended $3,900 over the legitimate cost to collect those checks. They necessary to use more forcible methods with the few banks that refuse to collected them. I don't call that remitting at par. The percentage included in the 93% means just that kind, that the Federal Reserve Bank, pay their checks at par." In other words, our contention had been that it was the purpose of those through the American Express and through paid agents, have been able to by collect on 93% of the banks. banks to force non-member State banks to par. That letter is signed Mr. Lowe: Here is exactly the point that I am trying to get clear in my the manager of the Portland Branch of the San Francisco Bank. One of the letters which appeared in the Atlanta suit, which showed you mind. What I would like to know is how many of the State institutions are the petty and the small way that these gentlemen attempted to force that remitting at par without adopting the methods that you have just cited scheme of par collection over, is best evidenced by this letter which was Is there any data that is available that will give us ti at answer? President Hecht: I don't believe that such data is available anywhere, signed by the Deputy Governor of the Atlanta Bank. It is as follows: (This is addressed to a small country bank as an inducement.) "It occurs because in a great many cases items on State banks are undoubtedly colto us that in the event they do not agree to remit at par you would be lected through national banks who are members of the system; in other interested in handling for us at par their items. This would probably give words, there may be in one city two State banks and one national bank. You control of the clearings on your city as well as the benefit of the informa- Those two State banks would probably be on the par list because the one tion that may be derived through the handling of checks upon a competitive national bank would be able to clear the items. So I don't believe that any one will be able to give you a specific answer ta that question. bank." Mr. Claiborne: There is one agency that would be able to furnish the Now, here is a Government bank that suggests and is guilty of this type of banking. I leave it to you gentlemen if this Association can long stand information, that is the Federal Reserve Board, but that information would be absolutely useless to'this convention from the fact that I tell you it is these kinds of methods without taking some action. You will find besides the Atlanta case and the San Francisco case, the beyond denial; the Federal Reserve Board themselves can't deny it, nor any argued and submitted since the Federal Reserve Bank; that if you have to-day a number of State banks, it Kentucky case. That case has been month of January. but the judge has not as yet given us a decision. The is because they have been forced to that position. In other words, admitNorth Carolina case is now before the Supreme Court, but in the four ting the fact that you did have 93% that they were remitting through the districts we still have an injunction against the Federal Reserve Bank mails,it wouldn't mean anything to this convention, because if you ask those gentlemen (and we have asked them over their own signature), who are against collection of checks at par on non-member banks. Your Committee is asking for certain legislation, not because we are SO% ofthat 93%,they will tell you that they are doing so because they have uneasy as to the outcome of the courts, but we feel that if we could get the to. Therefare, what good would the evidence be if we had it? Mr. Lowe: If I may just ask one more question—Is there not and has legislation to harmonize this entire situation, it would be a big assistance there not been an attempt on the part of the Federal Reserve to ask for to the Federal Reserve System. Your Committee suggests an amendment to what is known as the Mc- co-operation in the collection of items by the State banks with the further Fadden Bill. The McFadden Bill is simply a bill which allows the banks understanding that a certain amount of collection shall be done for them to continue the collection of checks, but instead of the clause which exists through the Federal Reserve System free of cost? Is there not now somein Section 13 which says that no charge shall be made against the Federal thing of that nature? And if there is, what I would like to know is how Reserve, we have suggested an amendment which is as follows: "Subject many of the banks have gone into that sort of an agreement with the to conditions of the Federal Reserve Board, any Federal Reserve Bank Federal Reserve System? President Hecht: I don't believe that statistics are available here because may collect any check or draft by sending It to the bank on which it is drawn and may charge to the bank from which such check was received, they are Federal Reserve statistics. Mr. Lowe: Why doesn't that have a vital importance on the subject exchange or remittance charge incurred in the collection ofsuch checks." such matter that we are asked to consider? The balance of the amendment is the same as the Act. President Hecht: I, of course, believe that that Committee has given We feel that with that it will be optional for every bank, member bank or non-member bank, to charge as it sees fit. about as much data as it would be practical to present to this convention. We do not believe that any other solution of this problem can be arrived but I think Mr. Claiborne has made it perfectly clear that the question of at, at the moment. We have had discussions with the boards, we have what the State bank members really want to do will be better expressed appeared before Congress. Your Committee has had dozens of meetings. by a vote that we will take at this meeting than it will be by the percentages I have studied this thing in and out for two years and I honestly believe that which you have been told about for the reason that one of them will be a this is the only happy solution of this entire matter. voluntary expression of their views and the other may or may not be. I am Your Committee therefore makes the following report: "Your Cammittee not taking sides in that question at all, but I think that really the question suggests that the State Bank Section, in convention assembled, approve and can be voted upon here without waiting for such information as you are enders..? the McFadden Bill as amended by said Committee of the said Bank now asking for, and which is simply not available. Section. Mr. Lowe: I don't want to be misunderstood, Mr. President. I am not "It further recommends that at a general session of the A. B. A. this same attempting to debate this question. I merely asked for the information. bill be approved, which has been approved by the State Bank Section; I happen to corhe from a section of the country where it has been the that a committee be continued to further study and develop a collection practice and is the practice to remit at par. plan in accordance with said McFadden Bill, and that the necessary funds Mr. McKane (Little Rock): I just want to speak a word against the be provided therefor." ado'ption of Mr. Claiborne's report. I think the adoption of this report I thank you. means a step backwards. I come from a State, the State of Arkansas. President Hecht: You have heard the report of the Committee on Ex- that has about five hundred fifty banks and prior to the Federal Reserve change. What is your pleasure? System's operation every one of those banks with very few exceptions Mr. Sprecner (Wisconsin): I don't think anything else needs to be said in charged exchange. To-day we have practically no opposition to par behalf of this discussion,inasmuch as it is very common with all of the mem- clearance. bers here. I therefore move that the report of the Committee be adopted, Mr. Hecht's bank in New Orleans could not collect a check in Arkansas and also that the State Bank Section approve of the McFadden Bill as at less hardly than twenty-five cents a hundred exchange. If you give our amended. country bankers the opportunity to-day to charge again, they will be Mr. Healy (Chicago): Will the gentleman enlighten the convention, perfectly willing to make that charge again. However, they are perfectly McFadden Bill provides other than what he has men- satisfied under the present operation. There is no discontent on their briefly, as to what the part and I believe that in States like ours where that practice was prevalent tioned? Mr. Claiborne: It simply provides, as the Act provides to-day, that Fed- as it was if it was worked out satisfactorily to these people would be a fair eral Reserve Banks may accept from member banks all checks, whether on example of what it is worth to the entire country at large. For that reason for us to make this optional now,to raise a question with member banks or banks that have the facilities through the collection. The only difference in this bill is that instead of there being a prohibition every bank as to whether they charge or do not charge, is simply a step against the Federal Reserve Bank making a charge. as exists to-day, this backwards in a financial machine that is working to the best interest of will allow any bank that remits to a Federal Reserve Bank to make the all the people at this time. For that reason I would hate to see this report adopted. charge, out that charge is to be saddled back on to the depositing bank. That is the orly change in the Act. In other words, the Act will remain as Mr. John E. Wagner (Missouri): I think that is one of the best reports it is, except the words"But no charge shall be made to the Federal Reserve." that I have ever heard. I am very anxious to see that report ad ted. The actions of the Federal Reserve banks in every State in this Union in Mr. Healy: It contains no reference to any other subject? regard to collections have been the actions of coercion and oppression. Mr. Claiborne: No other subject at all. Mr. Chas. F. Lowe (Vermont): I want to know what the practice is. They sent an agent with threats on his lips, to our little State banks in I wonder if the Secretary of this Section has ary data that he can give us— Western Kansas, that they would protest the checks of our bank if we the information as to the proportion of banks that remit at par and the pro- didn't remit to them at par. Those little banks were making about $600 a year out of collections, out of exchange charges. The bank that made portion of banks in the United States that do not. President Hecht: I should imagine that the Chairman of this Committee that threat was making 179% a year out of the pockets of the bankers of can probably answer that better than the Secretary, if you will permit. the country. I am perfectly willing that the bankers of Arkansas shall clear every item on earth at par, if they want to. But I also ask the Mr. Claiborne to answer. Mr. Claiborne: The question must not be misunderstood as to how many privilege that the bankers of Kansas or Missouri or any other State be hanks are remitting at par, and where it is possible for the Federal Reserve permitted to make a reasonable charge for collections if they care so to do. Mr. Chairman, the only thing I don't like about that report is that Bank to collect. The figures whicn are published continually, wni7h are misleading, are that 93% of the bangs of the United States are remitting at it recommends something that had McFadden's name on it and McFadden the Federal Reserve banks is in favor of branch banks. But I sincerely hope that this report will be par. That is not a fact. While it is possible for to collect on 93% of the banks, the facts are that those banks are remitting unanimously adopted. President Hecht: If the Chair may be permitted to inject a word into this because all of the national banks, which include about 8,500 banks,are compelled by law. The question as sent out by this Association, the A. B. A., discussion, I would like to say that the Chairman of your Committee on the system were opposed to par Exchange and the Chairman of this meeting have often differed very much showed that 80% of the national banks in collection. They were remitting because it was the law and they were on this same question. a believe, however, the course which that Committee now recommends is one of conservativeness because I believe the forced to so remit. The State banks that are now remitting with very few exceptions are re- Federal Reserve Board in Washington itself—and I was going to refer to coerced into remitting at par. that in a few moments in my own report—is of the opinion that there are mitting because they have been forced and That statement is justified by the fact that not only the question as sent out some things about this collection question that had better come by evolution by the A. B. A. showed those figures as 80%. but a question sent out two than by revolution. So that I do not believe the report of this Committee years ago by the National Standard State Bankers Protective Association on Exchange as now presented is in any sense radical, nor do I believe that it will meet with a great deal of opposition in Washington when they finally showed that 83% of the banks of the U. S. were opposed to par collection. nol, Mr. Lowe: It is uot exactly in the manner that I would like to have it. sit around the table, as I am sure they will as soon as the vacancies Then am I to understand that 93% of the State banks at this time do remit existing on the Board have been filled. the house, gentlemen, to approve the report There is a motion,before for collections at par? Mr. Claiborne: It is possible to collect on tnat percentage of State banks, the Committee on Exchange; the motion has been seconded. Is there but they are collected in various ways. The Federal Reserve Bank for a any further discussion? 166 BANKERS' CONVENTION. Mr. Lowe: I come from a section of the United States—and a little State dating character, i. e., provided they are drawn in the early part of the —where this same charging of collection on items was the only discordant planting season and are to be paid out of the proceeds of the crop when question before the State Association—the Vermont State Bankers Associa- harvested. tion. It was confined to a very small section, and we had some time Effect On Federal Reserve Membership. getting the banks there to agree to collect their items at par—and they have done it. All through our section, items are being collected at par. It It is very likely that there would be a considerable increase in the memfacilitates banking. If the majority of the bankers of this United States bership of the Federal Reserve System if such a change were made. It are now remitting at par and are perfectly well pleased and satisfied with might particularly prove to be an inducement for the smaller banks to that method, I think it would be a serious mistake to change it. join if the law permitting banks of less than $25,000 capital to become Mr. Sprecher: The reason I made this motion is due to the principle that eligible, should become effective. At present, less than 1,600 out of the is involved in this discussion. We to-day are opposed to labor unions for 11,000 State banks, which have been eligible all along, have actually joined this reason: They come out and say "You can't work unless you belong the system: and under the new law there wont(' be 4,203 more banks added to the union." That principle is wrong. It is un-American. And the to the list of State banks which could and might become members if the reason I make this motion is that we members shall have the right to charge facilities offered proved sufficiently attractive to them. if we wish to. If we don't want to, why then we do not need to, but Report of the War Finance Corporation indicate that during the short that principle prevails in everything that you and I do in the United States period in which it has functioned 4,220 banks availed themselves of its and it should prevail in this. rediscount facilities. We, in our small State banks at Wisconsin before this exchange matter Nearly all the institutions so accommodated were State banks—not memcame up, made very little. In other words, we made a reasonable charge bers of the Federal Reserve System—and many of them too small to qualify for exchange. To-day we are making more out of the exchange charge for such membership under the old law. than we did then. This is eloquent argument in favor of some adjustment of the rules of So I have no axe to grind but my idea in making this motion was merely eligibility of agricultural paper, . and, no doubt, that can be sone without because I am opposed to the principle that the Federal Reserve Board is seriously affecting the liquidity or jeopardizing the soundness of the system. trying to stuff down our necks. On the other hand, when it comes to the financing of live stock we are President Hecht: The question has been called for. All those in favor of confronted with an entirely different problem because in that case a turnadopting the report as submitted by Mr. Claiborne as Chairman of the over of from two to three years is required. Paper running for such a period Committee, please say "aye". Opposed? The "ayes" have it. The cannot, of course, be handled by the Federal Reserve System, and it is to report is adopted. be hoped that private initiative will supply some other kind of machinery for that purpose. Report of Membership Committee, George E. Allen, Chairman. Circumstances over which I had no control prevented my attendance at the Convention in Los Angeles last year. and this is, therefore, the first opportunity I have had to thank you, gentlemen, for the high honor you conferred upon me in electing me to the Presidency of this Division at a time when I was many thousands of miles away. The State Bank Division now has a voting membership of approximately 12,000 banks, most of which are located in the smaller communities. Following the sound policies adopted by our predecessors, we devoted a large part of our time and effort to a study of these problems which are of paramount interest to the banks outside of the larger cities. The field of our activities has none the less been varied, for the problems of the banker, both in city and hamlet, have indeed been many. In order to cover each subject as thoroughly as possible, special committees were appointed and their reports ,which have just been submitted In detail, will have convinced you of the efficient manner in which these committees discharged their duties. It seems hardly necessary, therefore, to burden you with too many details in this introductory address, which will be confined to a brief review of the Section's activities. The report would perhaps be still briefer if it were not for the fact that there developed at times some decided differences of opinion, which led different members of our committees and out membership at large to opposite conclusions, but which at no time disturbed the harmony and co-operation of your officers or your committees. All of you will have a free opportunity to express your views from the floor in the course of the afternoon's session, but as this privilege will in the nature of things be denied to your Chairman, you will no doubt permit him to outline some of the principles which in his opinion should govern our course of action. Agricultural Credits. The farmers, like most other producers, have gone through a most difficult period of readjustment, and it cannot be denied that the lack of proper credit facilities made their problem all the more serious during the past two or three years. The Federal Land Banks. the rapidly increasing number of Joint Stock Land Banks and the War Finance Corporation have all helped to give the farmer relief wherever possible, and each one of these agencies has fulfilled its function in a most satisfactory manner. Nevertheless, there remains a very strong sentiment throughout the country that something is still lacking in our credit system to take care of the so-called "intermediary" credit which the nature of the farmers' business seems to require. It is argued, and properly so, that the "turnover" of farm products takes somewhat longer than the turnover in manufacturing or commercial enterprises, and that special machinery should therefore be provided to take care of the farmers' needs. While freely recognizing the importance and necessity of giving careful attention to these needs, we frankly believe that it is just as dangerous for the farmer to make It too easy for him to borrow money as it is to deny him adequate credit facilities for the production and orderly marketing of his crops. Already we have numerous proposalsfrom perfectly well-intentioned friends of the farmer,calling for further legislation and for new Governmental agencies to alleviate the sufferings of our agricultural sections. Your Chairman does not believe that any of the bills heretofore proposed will prove a sound and permanent solution of the agricultural credit problem. No praise could be too great for the wonderful work accomplished by the War Finance Corporation under the courageous and far-sighted leadership of its managing director, Eugene Meyer Jr., during the past year or more. But credit conditions have changed completely during the past year and it is high time that the Government got out of the banking and every other business and thus live up to the slogan used so frequently during the last campaign, I. e., "more business in Government and less Government in business." The economic disturbances resulting from the abnormal conditions of the past few years are rapidly being adjusted and the great improvement in the country's financial condition will automatically solve most of the farmers' problems. ' Let us be very slow, therefore, in giving the official endorsement of our Association to any of the bills now pending in Congress, for surely there is no legislative panacea for all of the farmers' ills, any more than we can hope to cure the economic disruptions in other lines by the mere passage of more laws. The one way in which we can perhaps give some relief through existing agencies would be to make the regulations of the Federal Reserve Banks slightly more elastic than they are at present. We appreciate the necessity for keeping the assets of the Federal Reserve Bank as liquid as possible, but we do not believe that any serious harm could result if such banks were permitted to carry a reasonable amount of agricultural paper, running for a period of nine months, provided such obligations are of a truly self-tiqui- Co-pperative Marketing. The question of co-operative marketing is beginning to attract a good deal attention among farmers, business men and bankers. This new economic development impresses us as being thoroughly sound in principle, but its ultimate success vb ill depend entirely on the business ability which those who are charged with its administration may display. The greatest danger is that on the advice of honest but mistaken leaders, these marketing associations may develop into holding corporations, which may try to override the law of supply and demand, and attempt to get an artificially high price for their product by withholding It from the market when It is really wanted, or by unduly limiting production or other ironclad rules. So long as they live up to the true object of their organization, which Is to market their products gradually as the demand for them will absorb them, nothing but good can come from their operation. But it behooves us as bankers to take an interest in this new economic movement, because its success will mean a great deal to the farming and business interests of the nation. Indeed, if completely successful, it would result in a more even distribution of business activity, more stapio prices, less speculation and less violent fluctuation of bank deposits. I can think of no worthier movement to attract the interest of the bankers. Public Service Committee. One of the activities undertaken by the State Bank Division a year ago, was the preparation of newspaper advertisements suitable for country banks and the work was delegated to the Public Service Committee of the Division. A detailed questionnaire was sent to State banks regarding their present facilities and future needs. Accompanying such questionnaire were several specimen advertisements, and the responses indicated that some system of advertising was desired by country bankers. Subsequent to the action of the State Bank Division at Los Angeles, the Public Relations Commission of the American Bankers Association prepared specimen advertisements designed for use by all classes of banking institutions. The Executive Committee of the State Bank Division, after consultation with the Public Relations Commission, decided that any duplication of effort should be avoided, and, therefore, voted to combine its work with the work of the Public Relations Commission with the understanding that any plan of advertising p:ovidcd shouid give duo consideration to country banks. The Federal and State Legislative Committees. The Federal and State Legislative Committees of our Division have kept in close touch with the activities of the same Committees of the Assoziation and it is a pleasure to be able to report that we have been in full accord with the work of those larger committees and have had no occasion to avail ourselves of our constitutional right to take independent action in any legislative matters affecting our division. The Work of the Committee On Public Education. Realizing how great, in the solution of all our problems, is the need of education in fundamental principles. I wish to urge intelligent understanding of, and constructive co-operation in the splendid and vital plan worked out by Mr. J. H. Puelicher, one of the organizers and first President of the State Bank Section. This plan is being carried out under the Committee on Public Education, of which he is Chairman, and is one of the most Important pieces of creative work in which the Association ever engaged. Because of like service rendered during many years in numerous capacities for the Association, we,of the State Bank Section, who feel greatly indebted to Mr. Puelicher, desire this year that there shall be conferred upon him the highest honor which this Association can give. Branch Banking. At the Convention in Los Angeles last year our Division went on record as being opposed to branch banking in any form. In the meantime this problem has assumed nation-wide interest due to the recent efforts to expand the branch banking system on a rather large scale in some of the Middie Western States. It goes without saying that none of us want to see our independent banking system put in any jeopardy, but, with the exception of one or two States, there probably is no real justification as yet for the fear of some of our banks that their autonomy and independence are in any danger and that we are threatened with any sort of monopolistic control. We should not permit the issue to become unduly confused, for there is all the difference in the world between the unrestricted expansion of branch banks on the English and Canadian principle and the permission to operate several offices within the same municipality in which the principal office Is located. The one really does not carry with it the danger of too much concentration of power in the hands of the few. The other is usually merely a convenience to the public—the bringing of the bank to the people. After STATE BANK DIVISION. . all is said and done, the real place to make a fight against the extension of the branch banking system is at the State conventions and the sessions of State legislatures because our action here can at best have only a sentimental, general effect on the several States. There is, however, one aspect of the case in which all of us have a very direct interest, and that is that we should insist that the Federal Government absolutely prohibit national banks from invading the territory of State banks with "additional offices" or branches in States where the State law denies the same privilege to State banks. We believe that it would be quiet unfair to permit banks chartered under the Federal law to compete with State chartered institutions on such unequal terms and the members of our Division should protest most emphatically against any interpretation of the law which would snake possible such competition in the States where our own members are denied the same privilege. On the other hand we see no occasion for any undue heat and bitterness in the discussion of this subject nor is there any good reason why this question should be permitted to split the American Bankers Association into two hostile camps. It would appear that the proper course to pursue is to reiterate in no uncertain language that our Division is opposed to any development of the branch banking system on the English or Canadian principle, especially as in passing such a resolution we will but confirm the action taken by the Kansas City convention of the American Bankers Association in 1916, and we believe moreover that the vast majority of the membership of all the sections of the Association in attendance at this convention will favor the passing of such a resolution. Relations With National Banks. Notwithstanding the fact that national banks have in recent years been given most of the privileges heretofore enjoyed by State banks, such as conducting trust and savings departments, the State chartered institutions have shown a steady increase in numbers and resources. There have been a good many conversions from national into State banks. In New Orleans only one bank remains doing business under national charter, in Cleveland only three and in most other large cities State chartered institutions now hold the overwhelming banking power in their respective communities. But notwithstanding the fact that the lines of demarkation between the two classes of banks are becoming more and more obliterated since the establishment of the Federal Reserve System, the same reasons which make it highly desirable for the country to have a fairly evenly matched Democratic and Republican party also make it advantageous to have two classes of institutions—one under Federal and the other under State jurisdiction. Nor is there any reason why the friendliest relations should not always exist between the two classes of banks and the two divisions of this great Association which respectively represent the State chartered and national institutions. Co-operation With National Association of State Bank Supervisors. We have maintained the same cordial relations as heretofore with the National Association of State Bank Supervisors and have co-operated with them in the compilation of statistics of all State chartered banks. You are probably familiar by this time with the figures as published recently by R. N. Sims, Secretary of that Association, but it may be worth while to give you the following totals: there are 22,302 State banks, trust companies and savings banks with total deposits of $23,510,000,000 00, as compared with 8,197 national banks with total deposits of $15,390,000,000 00. The National Association of State Bank Supervisors extended your Chairman the courtesy of inviting him to deliver an address at their convention recently held at Detroit, and as you already know, we are to have the privilege of hearing from one of the leading members of that Association this afternoon. Our Division is also supporting the efforts of the Supervisors Association and of the Investment Bankers Association to secure proper national legislation to prohibit the sale of fraudulent or worthless securities without crippling corporations engaged in legitimate business. 167 Report of Committee on Resolutions. President Hecht: Mr. McCain is ready to report for the Committee on Resolutions. RESOLUTIONS OF APPRECIATION ANDSYMPATHY AND DECLARATIONS AGAINST BRANCH BANKING. Mr. C. S. McCain: "Be it resolved that the members of the State Bank Division of the American Bankers Association extend to the banks and bankers of the State of New York, their assurances of genuine appreciation and gratitude for the unexampled hospitality and entertainment extended to them and their families during this convention. "Be it resolved that the sympathy of the officers and members of the State Bank Division of the American Bankers Association be extended to Mr. John D. Phillips, Chairman of our Executive Committee, in his recent illness, and that, furthermore, this resolution convey to him an expression of our appreciation far the careful and intelligent work done for the Division as Chairman of this Committee on Farm Finance, and best wishes for his speedy recovery and return to active business. "Be it resolved that the State Bank Division of the American Bankers Association views with alarm the establishment of branch banking in the United States and the attempt to permit and legalize branch banking; that we hereby express our disapproval of and opposition to branch banking in any form in our nation. "Resolved, That we regard branch banking or the establishment of additional offices by banks, as detrimental to the best interests of the people of the United States. Branch banking is contrary to public policy, and violates the basic principles of our Government, as it concentrates the credits of the nation and the power of money in the hands of a few. "Be it resolved, That the appreciation of the State Bank Division of the American Bankers Association be extended to R. S. Hecht, who has so ably served the Division as its President, and by his uniform fairness and courtesy, his soundness of judgment and untiring efforts, have influenced tee sentiment in the nation for better and sounder banking coordinated the activities of the membership of the Division to the extent where their influence is felt as a powerful factor in the financial affairs of the country. He has given a full and fair hearing, and an opportunity for expression of views to all members on all questions presented. "Be it further Resolved. That the thanks of the Division be extended to its able Deputy Manager. George E. Allen, whose beneficent influence has been constantly felt in the successful activities of the Division, and that we wish for him continued health, happiness and prosperity." C. S. McCAIN, V.-Pres. Bankers Trust Co., Little Rock, Ark., Chairman. ROY 0. WEST. Director Bank of Dwight, Dwight, Ill. F. T.IIODGDON,Cashier Farmers & Merchants Bank, Hannibal. Mo. GRANT McPIIERRIN, Pres. Central State Bank. Des Moines, Iowa. ' M. B. WELLS, V.-Pres. Home Savings Bank, Milwaukee, Wis. Mr. C. S. McCain: I offer these resolutions for adoption. The motion was carried. Report of the Nominating Committee, by E. C. McDougal of Buffalo. Complaint of Failure To Attend Meetings. Mr. McDougal: Mr. Chairman, before offering the report, the Committee has asked me to express to this meeting the thought that nominees who accept office, when elected, should do so with the understanding that they are to attend meetings. The organization had cases where men have taken office and they never attended one Committee meeting hardly or not more than one. That is not quite right. Whether it would be proper in notifying these men officially of their election for the Secretary to say to them that it was rather understood that if they skipped a couple of meetings or did not attend that their resignations ought to be offered, is not for our Committee to say. We will have to leave that to the Executive CamPar Clearance Problem., mittee, but it was thought timely to emphasize that one point, that no man As you are aware, the personnel of our Division's Committee on Exchange should accept office, either as a stated official or as a member of the Execuis almost identical with that of the Committee of Five of the American tive Committee unless be was willing to attend the meetings and come to Bankers Association appointed to consider the same subject. The report the convention. The report, Mr. Chairman, is as follows: of Mr. Claiborne, who is Chairman of both committees, will be laid before For President, H. A. McCauley, President of the Sapulpa State Bank, you during this convention's meeting. It appears at this time as though this long drawn out controversy can Sapulpa, Oklahoma. For Vice-President, J. D. Phillips, President of the Green Valley Bank, probably be settled on some basis fair to all concerned just as soon as the two vacancies now existing on the Federal Reserve Board have been filled. Green Valley, Illinois. For Chairman of the Executive Committee, W. C. Gordon, President of We believe that the officials in Washington have come to realize that it will be far better for the Federal Reserve system and for the banking the Farmers' Savings Bank, Marshall, Missouri. To fill the vacancy for a term of one year caused by the elevation of Mr. fraternity at largo if certain features of this problem be made voluntary instead of compulsory and that the economic good which it is designed to Phillips to the Vice-Presidency, Guy E. Bowerman of St. Anthony,Idaho. For member of the Executive Committee for three-year term to fill the accomplish can better be brought about by evolution than by revolution. Certain it is that a working agreement of this sort will go much further vacancies by those that expire, N. S. Calhoun, President of the Maysville than acrimonous debate, Bank, Maysville, Kentucky; W.P Shorer, President of the Midland Bank, toward a permanent solution of this problem Cleveland, Ohio. legal controversies, and even legislative enactments in some of the States. SAVINGS BANK DIVISION AMERICAN BANKERS' ASSOCIATION Twenty-first Annual Meeting, Held in New York City, October 2, 3 and 4, 1922. INDEX TO SAVINGS BANK PROCEEDINGS Thrift and Thriftlessness, Dr. Nicholas Murray Butler Service to Our Depositors, George E. Brock Industrial Savings Banking, Jarvis Hicks Savings Bank Advertising, Victor A. Lersner School Savings Banks, Alvin P. Howard Ideals, Philip J. Lawler Why Banks Install School Savings Systems, C. Laycock Boy and Girl Bankers, Edward A. Richards Educational Values, Prof. Clifford Brewster Upton Page 168 170 170 172 173 174 W. 175 176 177 Annual Address of President Raymond R. Frazier Remarks of T. B. McAdams Report of Committee on Federal Legislation Report of Committee on State Legislation Report of Committee on Savings Report of Committee on Facilities and Service Report of Committee on Mortgage Loans Report of Committee on Liquid Investments Report of Committee on Resolutions Report of Committee on Nominations Page 179 179 180 180 161 181 181 182 183 183 Thrift and Thriftlessness By Dr. NICHOLAS MURRAY BUTLER, President, Columbia Uni versity. It is a great privilege and pleasure for me as a New Yorker to share in the welcome which has been offered not only by the bankers of this community but by its citizenship and by its press, to this very representative company of visitors from all over the United States. You in particular are, by reason of your relation to the business of banking, by reason of your character and skill, directly the trustees for the savings of tens of millions of Americans, and it goes without saying that because of that fact you carry a very heavy load of obligation and responsibility in this country. When your President and Secretary did me the honor to ask me to speak here for a little time this afternoon—and I am going to give you a practical example of thrift—an examination of our program indicated that it might be worth while, and perhaps apposite, to say something about the larger aspects of thrift and thriftlessness and their significance in the life of the American people just now. So far as thrift and thriftlessness is concerned, we need go no further than the pages of Charles Dickens for the classic example. In his novel, "David Copperfield," he created the wholly inimitable character of Mr. Wilkins Micawber, and the story of Mr. Wilkins Micawber is the story, more eloquent than any that I could tell, of the difference between thrift and thriftlessness and what happens when one is substituted for the other. You remember that Micawber in offering counsel to the young Copperfield said with that grandiloquence that was characteristic of him: "Annual income, 20 pounds; annual expenditure, 19.06; result, happiness. Annual income, 20 pounds; annual expenditure, 20.06; result, misery. The blossom is blighted, the leaf is faded and the God of day sets upon the horrid and dismal scene and you are floored forever, as I am." It would not be easy to improve upon Mr. Micawber's picture of what happens when thriftlessness is substituted for thrift. In preparing myself to speak to you this afternoon, I had occasion to look into some of the recent statistics of our nation, and I confess to have been very much surprised to find how thrifty are our people in the way of money, when contrasted with their thriftlessness in so many other ways, ar.d what I wish particularly to point out is the necessity at your hands and with your co-operation of carrying the lesson of thrift in respect to matters of money, out into the larger area of thrift in respect to matters of idea, of institutions, of the Instruments of civilization. It astounded me to discover that there are forty million holders of life insurance policies in the United States. I knew the number was very large, but I was not prepared, perhaps you were not, for so huge a figure as forty million. Now, after making all allowance for those who carry more than one policy, it is perfectly evident that an astonishing proportion of our adult population is sufficiently thrifty to take that much thought for the future. We are paying in this country three billion dollars a year in premiums for insurance of one kind and another, and more than half of that is paid in premiums for policies of life insura..Ace. That would indicate that substantially our whole adult population had been gathered into the net of thrift, had been led to take thought of to-morrow, of the needs of a dependent family, for the education of children, for the day of illness and possible dependence, and for the thousand and one happenings of an unfortunate kind that may come to us in this life. But that is not all. Our own Secretary says, producing the very latest statistics on the subject, that one-half of all the deposits in the banks and trust companies in the United States are savings deposits, and that their amount is over sixteen and one-half billion, distributed among twenty-six million accounts. Why, these figures are perfectly appalling. They are inconceivable a generation ago or two generations ago. Of course, probably then is almost complete duplication between the twenty-six million and more who have savings accounts, and the forty millions who have life insurance policies, but it only indicates that the habit of thrift has gained a very strong hold on our American population. On the other hand, do you realize how careless we are of many human values, particularly how shockingly careless we are of human life? In San Franc:sco the other day I listened at the meeting of the American Bar Association to the reading of the report of the Committee on the Enforcement of the Law, and they stated in that report that there were some nine thousand illegal killings a year in the United SAVINGS BANK DIVISION. 169 States, murders—three, four and five times as many in pro- trusted it to men of capacity and character to care for and portion to the population as is the case, for instance, in Can- invest. Why, we have at this moment a public ownership f the ada, separated from us only by an imaginary line. Do you realize that in the United States three is one death railways of a truly American kind that is unprecedented In from accident every six minutes night and day? The popu- the history of the world in respect to any great enterprise or lation of a city of considerable size somewhere between sev- any great public utility. Millions and millions of Americans own the railways with enty-five and e:ghty thousand wiped out in the United States every year by accident! Very many of which accidents are their savings, here a little and there a little. When those preventable by the same kind of forethought and the same who have not thought attempt to array class against class. kind of foresight that has led to this stupendous development we find they have completely overlooked one of the ruling elements in this problem. of life insurance and of savings banks accounts. One other point, Mr. President. I have long felt and have Life insurance is growing eight times as fast Ls the population. Can that be said of any of the applications of thrift often said that thrift offered the one certain solution of our fundamental industrial problem. In the other fields to which I refer? I mean this. Before what is called the industrial revoluThen, Mr. Chairman, we are singularly wasteful of human values of every sort. We take pains to gather together wher- tion took place, that is, before the development of steam and ever we can the results of past experience of human en- electricity and the growth of the factory.system and the condeavor, of human experiment, of human undertaking. We centration in great cities of large numbers of wage workers collect great museums; we build huge libraries and we bring —all that is only 125 years old or less—before that took place In to them great aggregations of learning which tell us the the relation of the workman to his job was one that was so story of human experiment, human success and human fail- personal and so direct that he was able to take an interest in ure, human attempt to solve these problems by which our It and to regard it as his. He could have joy in the job as a finished product of his hands, whether he made it at home, age, our generation, is confronted. How much use do we make of them? You and I are con- whether he made it at the guild centre, or whether he made stantly solicited to try all over again social, economic and it in a little group. Then came the great factory system, the division of labor, political experiments that have been discredited for from five hundred to two thousand years. That, Mr. Chairman, the separation of functions as in the printing of cottons, or the making of shoes, and the workman found hinself brought is not thrift; that is thriftlessness. When we are told that after all that has happened in the simply to the constant repetition, many hundreds and thoudevelopment of free institutions, in the building of civil sands of times, of one mechanical and uninteresting act. He liberty and its protections, in the institution of private prop- naturally began to think much more about getting free from erty, in the judicial protection under our Constitution of that than about completing it. He naturally looked upon public law and private rights, when after all that we are that as an alien undertaking to which he had no personal retold that this means nothing, that we must begin again, that lation; he couldn't point to a finished pair of shoes or a finwe must put the majority in the place from which our fathers ished bolt of cotton and say: "I did this." He could only dispossessed the tyrant, that we must shackle ourselves so look upon a thousand boxes as they went out from the facthat liberty shall not be permitted to exert itself to develop tory and say: "I put on the heels," or "I put on the red part capacity and to gain property; when we are told that we of the pattern." The consequence is that as the man became alienated from must throw down and attack the courts and the judicial protection of public law and private rights, then, Mr. Chairman, interest in his job, he became alienated from everybody reI say that you might just as well pour your millions and lated to what is at the bottom a co-operative undertaking. If we are going to lessen the sharp incidents of the industrial hundreds of millions of savings in the sea. What use, what possible use, will it be for us to pile up life problem and its danger, we have got to get back to the wage insurance, to pile up savings banks deposits, and to go the worker his joy in his job, to make him proud, happy and satway of Russia? What possible use, what protection can be isfied when it is well done, because he has done it. And we had from thrift in one narrow and restricted field, however have got to substitute for the rather crude and mechanical important, if we have no care for those great achievements notion of employer and employed, or the still cruder and more which represent the thrift of those who went before us? mechanical notion of Capital spelled with a large C, and If there had not been men rich in ideas, strong in charac- Labor, spelled with a large L; we have got to get back the ter, fearless in courage, intrepid in zeal, it would not have notion of industry as a co-operative enterprise between hubeen possible for you to maintain the institutions which you man beings—men and women with blood, with hearts, with conduct or for these tens of millions of Americans to lean souls, with ambitions, with needs, not mere parts of a maupon them as sources of strength and dependence in respect chine, but co-operating together in the production of that which is the end of an industry. of material things. We must regard industry as a co-operative undertaking It is a profound truth and no rhetorical figure that unless we are sparing and thrifty in respect of intellectual and so- between those who work with their heads, those who work cial and political values, we shall have no opportunity in the with their hands and those who work with their savings, and long run to use the results of our thrift in the field of mate- the sooner we can by thrift make the man who works with his rial things. hands also a man who works with his savings, the sooner we We need a great stirring of the spirit on the part of the will get back to joy in the job. men of affairs of the United States. There is no sadder There should be no more inviting and no more useful place sight than to see antagonism growing in a democratic so- for the man who works with his hands to put the results of ciety, taking on the form of class consciousness and class his thrift than the enterprise in which he is a co-operating hatred, antagonism growing between those who have a little agent. That is beginning. It is beginning in some large corporations. It ought to•spread, and I hope it will spread, to more and those who have a little less. Only a few weeks ago, when some of our industrial dis- many smaller ones of a different type, but believe, me, gentleputes were at their height, I listened on the Pacific Coast to men, until thrift is made the bridge to enable what is now laan impassioned attack upon the millionaires who own the bor to become capital, to destroy the essential difference berailways. That set me to thinking, and I wondered who they tween the two, and to destroy the joy in the job—because the were, and then I realized that instead of the millionaires wage worker feels that it is his, he has some control over it, owning the railways, the ownership of the railroads as repre- some part in it, and can identify himself in relationship to it sented by their bonded indebtedness and far the larger por- —until we do that, we shall be guilty of thriftlessness in me of the largest and most far-reaching undertakings of mc.. .rn tion of their stock issues is in the hands of the holders these life insurance policies, the depositors in the banks and society. You cannot, you dare not, permit present conditima. in trust companies, these millions of Americans who by their thrift have saved of their material wealth and have en- England, in France, in Italy and in the United States inu 170 BANKERS* CONVENTION. nitely to continue. It would be sheer stupidity for us to do Now, gentlemen, that is the message which I have had it in so. to say nothing of the thriftlessness, the waste, the extrav- my heart to speak before this great body of men of affairs agance on a huge scale that that would exhibit. It is neces- this afternoon. I have wanted, if I could, to lead you to sary, and you sitting here in this room to-day are in positions think of the larger implications of your own busIness, of the of strategic importance to guide and influence public opinion enormous social and political industrial importance of the in these respects. It is necessary to get that conception of principles that underlie the institutions in whose prosperous thrift and thriftlessness which does not confine it to mone- conduct you are engaged, and now as a result of my thrift, tary savings or to insurance, but which will use those as I have in my possession something which very few New models or types for its application to the large field of ideas, Yorkers ever have—I have forty-five minutes of spare time of political institutions, of social and of industrial endeavor. which I present to this audience with my compliments. Service to Our Depositors By GEORGE E. Bancx, President, Home Savings Bank of Boston and President, National Association of Mutual Savings Banks. The greatest and best service we can render to our depositors is to so conduct our business that they may be assured of a sound bank in which to deposit their money; this is our primary duty. This doctrine is old, it has been handed down to us by our forefathers; but it will also always be new, becanes it is fundamental to all good banking. There has been a great awakening in these days of keen competition and savings bank men are asking themselves on every hand,"What more can we do for our depositors?" The answer to this question has so often been attempted that it is nigh impossible to give anything new,but a few observations may be worth while,even though they are a repetition. The amount of service which a bank renders to its depositors is largely in the hands of the executive officers. If the executive officer is a grouch his bank will remain in the old rut and be submerged by the present day competition. If he be timid, he will content himself with following the lines of least resistance. If he be self-sufficient it will be hard for him to believe there is anything new under the sun worth while, but if he be energetic, forceful, with a broad horizon, he will lead his trustees in new paths and reach out to give a greater number of people the benefits which his institution can confer upon them. I will mention a few of the things which may well engage his attention. It is very apparent to many of us in the State from which I come that the time has arrived for savings banks to change their methods in respect to the payment of interest. However much we believe in the old method of paying interest once in six months, thereby causing people who draw between interest payment periods to suffer loss, nevertheless, a new public sentiment is rising which will ultimately compel us to change our methods. Either we must resort to the payment of interest quarterly, or follow some such plan as has been recently inaugurated by one of the large mutual savings banks in New York City, namely "The Calendar Monthly Plan." I believe we are going to be compelled to make some change, and it behooves us to consider the situation and adopt some plan which will give enlarged service to our depostiors. There is much, also, which we can do in the line of personal service to the people in our communities, such as budget work, school savings work; work in the industries, In clubs, stores and associations of all kinds, bringing before the people in small groups the benefits accruing to them from vacation clubs, Christmas clubs, budget making, and a regular savings plan. Savings banks will do well to consider seriously the advisability of creating a new department, call it what you may, the Home Service Department, the Personal Service Department, or any other name, but be sure that the head of such a department is charged with the duty of projecting the hank into the community. In a community where the banks are too,small to bear the expense which this would involve, two or more banks might join in the undertaking, sharing the expense. The foregoing suggestions consist of endeavors to make new friends. After they become our customers the paramount duty of the officials of the bank is to see that proper service is rendered; prompt, courteous and efficient. In order to accomplish this result, it is necessary to gather together from time to time the employees and have them become familiar with the aims and aspirations of the management of the bank, and to teach them, so far as possible, the methods by which these aims can be accomplished. There is nothing more important than this, because the large majority of the people whom we serve need assistance, and it is necessary to have an intelligent, sympathetic and agreeable company of clerks who are proud of the institution for which they work, and look upon the service that they render as a personal service to the customer at the counter. The further away we can get from the machine methods of handling people, the more cordial will our relations be, and the more effective will our work be among our depositors. There is a great work for us to do; we have but scratched the surface as yet, and if we will but take ourselves to the hill tops, where our horizon will be enlarged, we will find abundant opportunities for the exercising of the best judgment and wisdom of which we are possessed. Industrial Savings Banking By JARVIS HICKS, Secretary and Treasurer, Long Island Savings Bank, Long Island City, N. Y. It is with a very great deal of pleasure and delight that I Island City Savings Bank some 40 years ago. I assure you am invited to say just a word on a very favorite subject of I did not receive the deposit. • Before entering upon my subject matter—industrial thrift mine. It has been my privilege for the past 10 years possibly to go in and about this State discussing the question of in- and savings banking—it might be well for you to have a preliminary remark as to how this thing first started out. Some dustrial thrift. Industrial thrift, as I take it, is one of the new things that one was good enough to accuse me of being the first bank soIs being foisted on savings banks to-day. The school sav- licitor in the State of New York, which took place some 35 ings bank idea is not a young one. We have all listened with years or so ago. Over in Long Mand—you will pardon me, please, if I refer much pleasure and delight to Mr. Howard, but it gives me very great pleasure also to say that the first school savings to the Long Island City Savings Bank, or myself too often; I bank deposit that was taken from any scholar in any school assure you it is only to connect an idea and a bank together, In the United States of America was deposited in the Long and it is with no intention whatever of announcing conspicu-. SAV I • S BANK DIVISION. 171 ously our bank, to say nothing of the speaker. We have tees of the Watertown Savings Bank." Keep the bank and probably 200 to 250 very live industries in our city in which the board of trustees before you and much of the hard work there are employed possibly fifty to sixty thousand persons. will be made very much easier by the fact that most of the About six or seven years ago, when it was my privilege to industrial heads, I have found, are trustees of savings banks, go out of the commercial banking (where I had the very since only the very best men in any community can serve. Your representative should be a member of the Chamber great privilege or honor to serve for 25 years with the great Exchange Bank of this city) and came over into the of Commerce or Board of Trade so that his acquaintanceCorn ship may be extended to its fullest degree. savings bank world, bank solicitation was something new. Just a word about the man or woman who represents you. It occurred to me through the approving power of our board of trustees that it might be well to exert some of this In the first place, he or she must be possessed of salesmansame energy along the lines of savings bank solicitation, ship. But even technical knowledge and salesmanship in themselves are insufficient. He must have a soul. His pay which up to that time was absolutely unheard of. Industrial thrift, or industrial savings banking, as my cannot be based on dollars alone, but must be, in part at least. topic is so described, means simply this: In order to get it measured by the satisfaction that the work in which he is before you definitely, I have five questions which have been engaged has a higher and more glorious purpose, in that it is given to me, not once, but a dozen times, probably a hundred raising the standard of mankind. I have found in my many, many talks to these industrial times, as I have gone through, in and about the State, and I thought it would be well, so as to make what few words I employees that one of the strongest and best influences for had to say, concise and somewhat to the point, as your Chair- good is to be sympathetic. Your representative must be kind man has said, I will endeavor to ask these questions as they to them. He should inform himself as to their home life. find out what some of their adversities are, and talk along have been asked me, and then answer them briefly. I would like to say in passing just what a few of those these lines with them. The right kind of a man can help • them wonderfully, and gain their confidence. Get them to particular results have been, as they relate to our bank. About seven years ago we had an institution of approxi- ask questions, show a kindred spirit, enter into their lives as mately seven millions of dollars. We worked along casually far as it is humanly possible, and by all means, show them In the factories, and up to and within the time of.the armis- that thrift and regular saving is the biggest regulatory power tice, we were working along in a very quiet way. We had a in the world. Tell them what a savings bank is, and all very peculiar situation to overcome. Our trustees were giv- about it, and how it fits into the lives of working men better ing a great deal of careful thought to what might happen than any other financial institution in the world, etc., etc. I have had at least 25 bank officials from all parts of the after the close of the war, or such time as its activities or hostilit:es would cease. Our little bank was busy going country call on me during the past year, and they have all along in its own quiet way, but during the past six years, asked quite a number of questions, among which is, "How through industrial effort, the most promising feature to the or what system do you use for its operation?" We have used the Deduction Plan. By that I mean, where advancement of our bank's business was 10,000 vacant lots. We had to do something. We felt as soon as the war ended, the employer deducts from the weekly wages. This is unand with these. thousands of new depositors whom we had doubtedly the best method. But we do not confine ourselves received owing to the fact that the people had been earning to any specific plan. What we want is to start these people great.sums of money—large wages—we thought it would be saving, and if our plan doesn't suit, we are quick to accept well for us to strengthen ourselves so that when this chaotic theirs, to the end that our ultimate idea be carried out. Another very reasonable question is: "How does it fit into time did cease and we started to readjust ourselves, the most natural thing that we could expect would be withdrawals, the life and activities of a savings bank?" . Up to within the past few years it was considered most unbecause of the fact that we were located in an industrial city and not with a dense population through which and by which dignified for a bank, and especially a savings bank, to enter into any form of account solicitation, and it is my humble we could get new business. It gives me very great pleasure, however, to say that dur- judgment that, unless we savings bank men become more ing those six years we increased the resources of that insti- alive to the situation, much of the business that rightfully tution from seven million to twenty-five million, in the face belongs to us, will be found in the resources of other financial institutions, where nothing is being left undone to proof all these withdrawals and adverse circumstances. Just as I was coming out to-day my secretary handed me a cure this business, and where the law of the land does not slip of paper on which it said, "The good work is going on give the same degree of protection to these funds, as it does just the same. If you want to speak of this, here it is: For when they are where they belong, on deposit in the several the last three months the net deposits in our little institution savings banks throughout our State and nation. Another question very properly asked: "What are the have increased $730,000." Whether or not we are alive, I will possibilities of industrial savings?" To my mind, that can leave that with you. Industrial thrift. What is it? How do you set the thing only be answered in part, by analyzing the uses to which sava-going so that it functions? How does it work? How does ings bank funds are generally put. Let us consider for a moment some of the more important It fit in to the lives-and activities of a savings bank? What are its possibilities? In answer to the first question, What objects. If we men were to enter into an intense campaign of is industrial thrift? It is simply carrying the gospel of sal- industrial savings banking, from which channel, yet unvation through thrift into these industries and factories touched, millions—yes, billions—of dollars are bound to where we have fifty or sixty thousand people employed in- flow. I think we all agree that the greatest cause for much of the stead of having them come to you and possibly not at all. The next question is; How do you set the thing going? underlying unrest—Bolshevistic ideas, and its like—is due to This is very dry. In the first place, it will be necessary to Jack of education, or a better understanding among the peohave the name of every industry in your city or locality. I ples of the world. Will the savings banks grasp this opportunity? would suggest a card system; on each card I would put the I am hushed to low voice when I think of this great city of name of the industry and its address, the telephone number and the name of its officers, if possible. The most important New York, with 1,000,000 children attending its public man or woman of all with whom you will come in contact schools, at a cost of nearly one hundred million dollars a finally is the plant superintendent. If he or she has an in- year, and for the year 1923, a building fund of about ninety dividual telephone in the plant, get it. After your first in- millions more-190 millions to be spent in one year for edutroduction you will find most of your work will be with him cation. Think of what this all means for a single city. What institution or institutions on earth has contributed or her. After that you will want a goodly number of calling or business cards. Don't make the serious mistake of putting so largely to the development of the public schools, the greatthe name of the representative Of your bank foremost on est single enterprise on earth? There is but one answer: the this card. Rather put it in this way: "The Board of Trus- savings banks as bond owners. Pardon my eagerness to BANKERS' CONVENTION. 172 mention that our city schools are presided over by a trustee of the Long Island City Savings Bank—Mr. George J. Ryan. My mind still travels along the line of industrial savings possibilities. We have touched briefly the educational value of industrial savings banking, and the tremendous constant need of funds to carry on such an enterprise which industrial thrift can supply. May I ask who owns the major portion of the bonds that created the greatest water supply system in the world? The savings banks. Push industrial thrift, procure additional funds, extend this system, make it possible for other cities to get the same degree of service. Where does the greatest bulk of the money come from that builds our great State and interstate highways? Road bonds held by savings banks. As you good people from all over the country travel in and about our great city, think with me for one moment of the great parks, a breathing space in the open for about six million people. Tunnels under our rivers, connecting cities, the result of the greatest efforts of the human mind expressed In these great developments, all built with money procured through the sale of bonds. Who owns these bonds? The savings banks. Industrial thrift and savings banking can supply an unlimited source of funds to extend these developments. If we savings bank men will put our shoulder to the wheel. Who has given New.York City the finest fire equipment in the world? The savings banks, in a large measure, who own the bonds issued for that purpose. Here again industrial savings banking can help extend ever greater fire protection. Industrial savings banking has another great opportunity. If the cost of living is to be reduced, it will come only in the same proportion as the people will save. Let's help them through industrial thrift. Over in Long Island City we have many definite cases of rent reduction where we have been carrying on a very extensive housing campaign. Rents have been reduced materially. This can be traced right back to our industrial efforts, from which source we received the money which enabled us to carry out our plans. Listen. It is the earnest belief of the board of trustees of our bank that we have assisted to a higher citizenship over 20,000 persons in the past six or seven years, since that number of people have opened accounts in our bank, which is largely attributed to our industrial thrift and banking campaign. The work seems to show from every angle. It is our further contention that the man or woman who becomes the proud possessor of a United States Government bond or the pass book of any savings bank, or deed to property in this great country of ours, has made the greatest stride in the elevation of his patriotism. I have called your attention to a few of the possibilities which may be approached through industrial thrift through the medium of a savings bank, such as educational advantages, religious advancement, highways, water supply, sewers and disposal plants, tunnels, parks, fire protection, reducing cost of living, reducing rents, higher citizenship, more intense patriotism. In passing, think what the savings banks have done in one single item of 925 millions of dollars in railroad bonds, to extend transportation facilities, and its contribution toward the industrial development of our nation as a whole. There is no end to industrial savings possibilities. But leave to the last the greatest of all these. The religion of the world is inspired with natural growth. Not only is it the cornerstone and the underlying strength of our institutions, but that medium of power by whin we shall all be measured, as to what use we have made of time and opportunity. It has to do with the highest and noblest quality in man's possession. Up to this time, all to which I have referred, has been accomplished through the voluntary act of a depositing public. What may we expect from a body of men, as are here assembled,set to work intensively, either going or causing some one to go, into every industry of our country, backed by thousands of the very best men in our land—I refer to the boards of trustees of the several savings banks. Gentlemen, in my humble judgment, no living man has the power of mind to estimate, even in part, what industrial thrift and savings banking possibilities are. Let us wax strong, and go forth, and take our rightful position in the world of things. Industrial thrift means opportunity. Industrial thrift means work, my fellow bankers. Are you ready to accept your share? I believe you are. Savings Bank Advertising By Vicros A. LERSNEB, Comptroller, Williamsburg Savings Bank, Brooklyn, N. Y. To ask me to discuss "Bank Advertising" is to take advantage of my deep interest in the subject and, at the same time, expose my limitation of knowledge thereof. When we think of the term "advertising" we at once find our thoughts running towards publications, and particularly newspapers. While such methods are of unquestionable value in their own way, they are, and can be, only a part of the whole, if we will interpret advertising in its broad meaning and full application to our bank's advantage. To do this we must consider advertising in its dictionary sense, which defines it as "making known by public notice—to commend to the public." To offer a viewpoint of the substance of advertising .is to describe it as something that purposes to create an impression on those to whom it is directed, and the degree to which it accomplishes this basic idea determines its elemental merit. But the principle has only been partially established unless the impression is capable of effecting action and it is through the combination of the elements, Impression and Action, that the intent of advertising becomes a reality. When this action is obtained it is imperative to both retain and extend it by seeing that the advertised article is exactly what was offered, and the item in our case being "Service," we must provide the personal equation that answers to its dispensing. I feel that any and all printed and display efforts and effects will only be a fractional accomplishment of advertising purposes unless generally supplemented by human quantities, who, by their conduct of our banking machinery will be actual advertising mortals, and it can only be through a combination of the animate and inanimate lements that we can sensibly expect to obtain an effective advertising compound. The field of printed advertising is limitless, as all bank men know, but my personal estimate of the relative merits of the most common forms in this division is something after the following order: Pamphlets and their many varieties, bill boards, newspapers, calendars, blotters and magazines; the order of selection being based on the most advantageous means of putting a message before the public. While I give full recognition to the publicity man and copy writer, their calling, after all, while a dignified profession, is not a science—a statement readily proved by submitting the same matter to a number of these accomplished persons with their unvarying exception to such details as are expressed in their d'alect of "lay-out, white space, number of words, position, type face, illustration, margins, borders, etc., etc." But any one seeking to secure the most serviceable advertising cannot ignore any of these recognized items of design, and it is only by their competent employment that we distinguish the effective from the primitive, and the professional from the novice. I cannot resist giving my estimate of the most proficient kind of bank advertisers by declaring in favor of men trained in bank work who supplement this experience with diligent SAVINGS BANK DIVISION. 173 I plead to being a radical on the broad subject of advertisadvertising study. Concededly, this combination of ideals is in readily secured, but is well worth striving for. However ing, but feel that few, if any of us, have begun to invest not he cannot the infinite opportimities that merely need our intelligent adaptable a general advertising expert may be, the public interpret the meaning of a bank's needs, nor grasp the true cultivation to make them mutually profitable to and our institutions. psychology of the public to a degree equal to the aforesaid Some one has recently published the result of a study as sort of bank trained man. He is the one blest with the means of putting the message over, which concededly is the to the consensus of relative advertising value of the general and human elements, which shows about a 50-50% decision. sine qua non of the entire question. Denying the printed for the personal element, I submit the This verdict may run true to actual conditions and would primary thought that the most consummate order of printed seem to prove how slight has been our attention to the permethods can only be conserved to the extent to which our sonal portion of our ambition to develop our banks. It seems . banks are becomingly conducted by all those who come into to be a human characteristic to conclude that we must seek Immediate contact with the public, for we cannot expect to external ways for the realization of our wants, rather than escape the influences and results of being judged and meas- believe they are internal problems—analyzing our own immediate conditions seems less attractive than accepting some ured by our deeds, rather than by our words. our common plan of operation which stands prepared plan that is promised to fit every situation. EnvyOne factor in out as a conspicuous example of my contention is, the New ing the greenness of our neighbor's grass leads to spending Account Teller, because of his being at the junction point of dollars for new seed rather than dimes for more sprinkling. How many of us have ever compared the number of hours the depositor's initial touch with the bank, and here we venthat eoncerns itself with first we extend to interesting salesmen offering wares of unknown ture all of that valuable asset Impressions. Too many of us know, the extent of our inter- usefulness and that which we expend in trying to discover nal weakness in this respect, but various considerations de- the golden nuggets and uncut diamonds among our employter us from effective curative methods. The prime cause ees. Could we not with great profit measure the comparaseems to me to be the too prevalent consideration of senior- tive investment value of money now spent for general adverity with a corresponding neglect for merit, and the force of tising material and what some part of that sum would re this faulty practice only comes to us when changed condi- turn to us if devoted to increased salaries and sustained by a tions and new influences cause us to seriously seek advertis- free spirit of encouragement and cordial suggestion to the ing, whether it be as a means of counteracting adverse and members of our working force. In building an ideal bank I would construct it of human incontending forces or to something that is responsive to a change in bank management or administrative tegers who would so glory in their bank and work that they would be active agencies for developing their institution durdirection. Bringing the subject back to the definition as meaning "to ing time that would not only include every minute in the commend to the public," it would seem that savings banks bank, but many hours outside the banking room. Give me a have both a right and a duty to favor advertising if they are force of bank rooters who had substantial reason for reto fulfill their true mission as protagonists of thrift. Any specting as distinguished from roasting their superiors, and agency that has real advertising value should be made a I would be content with this if were only allowed one of part of savings bank development. Not the least of recent two quantities. Not to be false in my logic or reasoning I repeat my alleextensions in this respect is the work being done by the Department, under such titles as "Home Service," giance to advertising in its freest interpretation, but sumWomen's "Home Economics," "Personal Service Departments." This marize my meaning in stating it should be a proper admixnew function has provided the facility for giving a real hu- ture of judicious outside ingredients and one that consisted man character to our banks, a something that has been re- of a human portion which so respected their work by reason gretably absent in our affairs, and many of us see a great of sympathy and example of those in official position that usefulness in these departments, in that they furnish the they would at all times be nimble salesmen of their bank necessary answer to so many of our previous unsatisfied ' through courtesy and capability and thus not leave the marketing of inherent virtues to outsiders. needs. School Savings Banks By ALVIN P. HOWARD, Vice-President, Hibernia Bank & Trust Co„ New Orleans. Lord's prayer, the Creed and catechism in Sunday School, and table manners, decorum, punctuality and industry in their homes. Quite obviously, these children have the ability to learn things that they do not thoroughly understand, If at all, and with the teaching of each of these series of things is associated the immediate surroundings of the school room, the Sunday School and the home, through the medium of the teacher, the Sunday School teacher and the parent. That seems to be how to teach children. Whether it is right or wrong, it seems to be the universal system in this country. Call it a parrot-like method, if you will, but the results speak for themselves by the presence of those here in this room, because'each of Us has learned in exactly the same way. Now, then, where do you want to teach thrift to children? The Sunday School is excluded, the home perhaps, but the school room by all means, because that is the place where outside influence, improvidence and indulgence have no place. They are there to be taught according to school room standards. Suppose we agree that they should be taught thrift in the schools. termine the fundamentals. What are the fundamental principles involved in the The first fundamental principle to establish is to teach. learn the alpha- phrase "School Room Standards"? Obsmation shows that We are dealing with school children who can learn in the school room, and not in the halls, bet, multiplication table and how to write, in school, the school children The history of school savings in the United States during the past five years has been fully reviewed and the statistical information obtainable is on file in printed form with the Secretary of the Savings Bank Division. A casual glance at these figures will convince anyone that school savings is no longer an experiment. As a matter of fact, it is hoped that all of the experiments have been tried, because the classification of the various systems in use shows an alarming number of different plans and a varied amount of success. We have a large country, with many different laws, customs and peoples, so it is to be expected that this variation should occur, because of a lack of cohesion and co-operative guidance. New England has tried one system without result, has abandoned it in favor of another plan, which has already been tried hi the South or West and found lacking; the same system elsewhere is an apparent success, while others do not produce results. In 'a brief way, an examination of the history of school Savings shows conclusively that the main trouble is a lack of comprehensive and continental study to de- 174 BANKERS' CONVENTION. stairways or play yards, and I suppose that is a part of the general subject of "association," asexpounded by Sir Francis Galton, the eminent Professor of the University of London, now deceased. I have watched school children in the school room, and there is no doubt that their whole expressioh is different from that exhibited when they are idly passing through the corridors or playing in the yard. Not all of them are attentive faces, and some are. quite bored, but most of them are compelled to absorb by the very nature of their surroundings and the habit of associating the school room with a place where they learn. At least, you stand a better chance of teaching anything in the school room than you do in any other part of the building. It is humdrum, dull and uninteresting, but the force of routine and habit are ultimately predominant. So we learn by routine, and the natural conclusion is that thrift must be made a part of the routine curriculum in order to be understood, digested and taken away for permanent use. I do not think that this is theory, and I am certain that it is the case with my own children, and doubtless with many, many others. You can easily recall when school children did not know the words and music of or national anthem, nor were they taught respect to the flag. Times have changed since, and, I dare say, school children have learned this much to better advantage than. we ever did, simply because they have been taught these things in school under the routine guidance of the teacher, even though. with the doubtful assistance of a tuneless piano. Do we agree again that thrift can be taught in exactly the same way? The school board objects, the teacher refuses, and some very good men say that school children are being taught so many other things that they do not learn the three R's. There may be a law making the teaching of thrift compulsory, but the objections are there just the same. At this point we must decide who is right, and I ask you as fair-minded persons, without any selfish motive to serve, whether or not the peo- ple of our country should be governed in their educational policies by what the school teacher will do, or by what we ourselves think is best? If we subscribe to the first proposition, it is inevitable that the school teacher will teach the three R's and nothIng more; but who owns these children, the school teacher or the people of our country? And if we own the children and pay taxes for their education, who has the right to decide what they shall do? Ladies and gentlemen, all of you know that the banks are not engaged in this work for selfish profit. You cannot find many bankers who will truthfully admit that they have made money out of having the teacher teach thrift. If we hope to ultimately make a profit from this class of business, I belleve we are entitled to it, because the many benefits of national thrift cannot be dealt with so lightly as to place a paltry profit gained ahead of our children to come, when considered as grown up men and women who have learned to save. I refer you for specific details on this subject to the printed report before you, giving the judgment of the Savings Committee on this subject. The committee has worked faithfully for one year as a body, and with equal faith as individuals prior to that time. They, in turn, have no selfish purposes to serve, but are anxious to see that proper guidance be given, in order that we may have a thrifty younger generation and at the same time place the banks in a position where the economic value of school savings will earn a profit and become a thing of permanence. We must not delay any longer, and we cannot afford to play with the matter. It is either a question that needs concerted action along fundamental lines, or else we owe it to the children to abandon the project in full. I do not claim that bankers are altruistic in this plan, but I do say that they are Americans, with American children. living in America, and that we must conform to the ideals and principles for which we stand, or else confess our failure. Let this be a brief word to you, but call yourself as judge for what you want. If you agree with us, be determined to see it through. Ideals By PHILIP J. LAWLER, Bank of Italy. It is said that the first savings enterprise, amongst English-speaking people, was started by a Miss Wakefield in England about 1795, for the express purpose of encouraging frugality amongst children. The success of her effort eventually stimulated a desire to inaugurate a similar plan for men and women. This was the real beginning of the modern savings bank. In initiating this movement amongst boys and girls, Miss Wakefield demonstrated that she was not only a philanthropist, but an economist and a patriot. Her work was philanthropic, because in teaching children to save, she showed them, in a practical way, how to avert the evils that frequently lead the unfortunate to the poorhouse or to a reformatory. This woman must have been an economist, too, for in dealing with children only, she grasped a fundamental economic principle, in. an evident full realization that the "cradle" and the "school' are the logical places to begin great reforms, the places where the real preparation for the future should commence, in order to create a better appreciation of life itself, as well as to awaken a deeper interest in the home and in the nation. Miss Wakefield's service to patriotism was not less important than her other contributions to mankind, for who will deny the tremendous value to the nation of men and women who have learned to co-ordinate their expenses to their income by periodically saving something to meet emergencies. In the perspective of the history of savings banks, Miss Wakefield's endeavors in behalf of children should stand out in clear outline as a majestic peak of achievement among the mountain chains of great events. The humanitarian efforts of a woman in behalf of little children, that brought into existence the savings bank, should have had a substantial acknowledgment on the part of bankers during the past century, that might well have taken the form of provisions for encouraging the habit of savings amongst school children. Except, however, in a comparatively few instances, the child has been overlooked in the average banker's program of activities, that are frequently so broad in their scope. Eleven years ago the Bank of Italy established a school savings department. The representatives of this department now visit 450 California schools every week, to cover which, eight men travel over 2,000 miles. There are 35,000'depositors in our school savings department, who have standing to their credit over one million dollars. In maintaining this department, we contend that we are ass!sting banks in every State in the Union, for if we teach children to save in California, and these children take up their residence in other parts of the United States, as they do frequently, our best information leads us to believe that they invariably continue to save in their new homes. What we have accomplished in our school savings department on the extreme western border of America should be a reminder to those who do not see the potential value of a penny or a nickel, that these small coins, like the children who posssess them, have boundless posssibilities with proper environments. They may well be compared to a certain little creek I once heard described, the "Baby" river that vvabbles through the woods of Minnesota. I cannot help but liken this river to the penny saved by a child, that does not know whither it is going.- The river just SAVINGS BANK DIVISION. keeps on, never giving up or quitting until it reaches the place where gravity says "Little Misssissippi, do you want to grow? Then you will have to go south." The little Mississippi starts south, while the folks look on and say, "Why, Mississippi, you are foolish, you hain't got water enough to get out of the county." That is a fact, but he is not trying to get out of the county, he is only trying to go south, even as the child tries to save. The Mississippi has not uch water, he does not wait for a relative to die and bequeath him some water. He has water enough to start south and he does that, even as the child who may not have enough money to buy anything, yet has enough to save. The Mississippi goes a foot south, then another foot. He goes a mile south and picks up a little stream, then he has more water. Day by day he picks up streamlets, brooklets and rivulets, even as the child through his maturing years should keep accumulating pennies, nickels and dimes, with the aid of his banker. Finally, the Mississippi reaches the Gulf of Mexico, even as the child who has been taught thrift reaches his goal by having saved enough to provide for a 175 higher education, or to buy a home or to start in business. If every school, with the assistance of a banker, incorporated in its course of study, a practical plan of saving with regularity, the "Commencement Day" of the future would take on a new significance, because the recipients of school honors would have acquired, through the school savings system, at least a spirit of self-control that would make its advantages manifest in countless ways in after life. Once upon a time there was an old Admiral who had been retired by his country after many years of faithful service. He was loath to discontinue serving his beloved native land, so he always carried about a pocketful of acorns which he planted in soil that would insurOfertility. Moon being asked why he did this, he said, "To help provide oak for my country's ships." If you gentlemen, delegates to this Convention of the American Bankers Association, will, like the dear old Admiral, help to implant in the plastic minds of children thrift "seeds" and savings habits, it will react to our country's welfare by developing "Ideal" citizens. Why Banks Install School Savings Systems By C. W. LAYCOCK, Vice-President, Miners Bank, Wilkes-Barre, Pa. The evolution of banks and banking methods has been progressive. Instead of the traditional banker, who, we have been told, was tall, cool, calculating, aloof, who would permit the deposit of money in his concern, and make loans if the security offered were unquestionable, and the borrower would tell what he wanted to use it for, we have, to-day, the modern banker who is genial, is interested in your affairs and rejoices when you prosper, sympathizes and counsels with you when you have hard problems to solve, is thoroughly human and "goes out after business." He believes that every person owes some service to the community in which he lives and that it is possible for his institution to do something that his directors and stockholders cannot individually do. It is not a great many years since bankers began to realize that, in the aggregate, large sums of money, that should be available for use in business, did not find lodgment in banks at all, but were being carried about in the pockets of the people, kept in secret places in the homes, or, what is worse, were being spent unwisely. It was then, by various methods, they endeavored to bring this money out of pockets and stockings and have it banked, thus adding to the working capital for business. Plans to induce and encourage saving and depositing in banks by wage earners were adopted and worked with good success. Thrift campaigns were inaugurated, literature was sent out and many devices were used to arouse and stimulate a purpose and determination to save. But please note that most of these efforts were expended upon those who had, to a large degree, formed their habits of life. Now we have entered another phase of development— thrift by educating the children and young people. It is said that one of the most important lessons needed by the American youth to-day is that of thrift. As I understand it, thrift does not mean saving alone, but, as the late Colonel Roosevelt said, "it is common sense applied to spending." I believe there are two kinds of thrifty people. First— those who are so by heredity. In money matters and things material they are naturally careful and prudent. The natural bent of this class varies in degree, in some this trait is so pronounced that they are penurious and mean, while in others the inclination manifests itself in a manner altogether satisfactory and agreeable. The second class are those in whom this faculty or tendency is far less pronounced and may lie dormant unless proper stimulus is stimulated and awakened. But when the them they may become quite as given and facilities afforded successful as the other class. himWhen the president of a thrift corporation introduced by self and presented a certified copy of a resolution adopted the Board of Education of our city to the effect that permission had been granted to his company to install its system of school savings in the public schools, and offered us the opportunity of becoming a factor in the operation of the plan, there soon developed in our minds three outstanding reasons why we would accept the proposition. First. We then recognized, but not as fully as we now do. the wisdom of the school directors in making lessons in thrift and the fundamentals of banking a part of the curriculum of the *schools, and we deemed it our duty to co-operate with them along that line of educational endeavor. This decision on the part of the school directors was entirely of their own volition, we had nothing to do with it, and I seriously question whether any bank can be justified in exploiting the public schools merely for the sake of getting deposits. Any savings system in the schools, in order to succeed, must have the hearty and enthusiastic co-operation of the teachers, and if there be the impression that it is a bank scheme to make money and the teachers are asked to do the extra work for that purpose the plan is doomed. I do not want to be understood as advocating the system of any particular concern, but the plan offered us made its appeal because it closely approximated regular banking. It uses pass books rather than slot machines and stamps, and makes it possible for pupils to deposit as little as one cent. Their transactions are visualized and associated with regular banking. The benefits of an account in bank are made real when they find it desirable or necessary to come to the bank to draw money out. If I had the knowledge, and ability to do so, it would be interesting to discuss the psychology of school savings systems that are operated by proper methods, but as I lack these qualifications, I shall pass that by with quotations from two authors, one a nerve and brain specialist and the other a psychologist. I shall not try to harmonize any contradiction there may appear to be in them, but use them as suggestive of the principle underlying the school, savings idea. The M. D. says: "We can make our own brains, so far as special mental functions and aptitudes are concerned, if only we have wills strong enough to take the trouble." Teach the child self-restraint, and you are directly developing his will power. Soon he will learn the next step in will development, and win Carlyle's great equipment for life, the ability to take trouble. The Psychologist: "We are incapable of exercising the will unless the imagination has first furnished it with a goal. We cannot simply will, we must will something, and that Roniething exists in our own mind as an idea." 176 BANKERS' CONVENTION. Application: Give the boys and girls right ideas to influence their wills before their brain matter is "set." as the potter says, by the lapse of years. The second reason that influenced us to assume the expense and labor connected with the installation and operation of the system was the added opportunity it would afford the bank to be of service to our community, the benefits of which would be not only for the present, but for the years to come. A tiorifty peasantry more than once has been an important factor in the financial salvation of France. The Irishman with two goats is much less likely to become a Communist or Socialist than the fellow with one or none. Third. Ten or fifteen years hence these young people will be the men and women in business and society, and the theory is, that, having formed the habit of thrift, and having acquired a fair understanding of banking methods as well as the value and convenience of an account in bank, they will as business men, salaried people and housewives become increasingly valuable bank customers, and while all of the banks in the community will share in the result, it is natural to expect that the institution in which they had their first account will be preferred, but even if the latter should not be realized, the officers and directors of that bank will at least have the consciousness of a worthy motive transformed into good works. Boy and Girl Bankers By EDWARD A. RICHARDS, of East New York Savings Bank, Brooklyn, N. Y. It is not difficult to get absolute agreement among savings bankers as to the purpose of their organization. All agree that their primary object is to encourage thrift and foresight among men and women of moderate income by providing a safe place of deposit and a reasonable interest on small sums of money saved from time to time. No one familiar with mutual savings banks of the United States will deny that a hundred years' experience has demonstrated beyond question that they are well adapted to accomplish the purpose of their organization. Certainly savings bankers have reason to be proud of their record and their success. If there is any difference of opinion among savings bankers --and I think there is—it is not as to purpose, but as to methods. He who calls himself a conservative and claims to follow the traditions of the system, will argue that savings banks are unselfish, semi-philanthropic institutions organized and operated solely for the benefit and adavntage of those of the public who care to become depositors; that savings banks are not in business for profit or personal advantage, and that all the savings banker should do is to open his doors ready to receive deposits'and let those come who will. He feels that those who do not come harm themselves and not the bank. If they do not see the wisdom and advantage of bringing their money to a mutual savings bank, that is their misfortune and not the bank's fault. He feels that it is no part of the duty of the bank or its trustees or officers to try to induce people to come in nor to spend the depositors' money to teach others the advantages of foresight and thrift. He who is pleased to call himself progressive and claims that he is trying to keep up to date, admits that we have just the kind and quality of an institution of which the other speaks, but argues that there are hundreds of thousands of people who don't know anything about our institutions. He contends that the policy of the conservative, especially when exaggerated as it is by some, tends to make their banks little more than cold storage warehouses for dormant accounts. He admits that it is true that the habit of thrift and saving is valuable, if not absolutely requisite, to future happiness, but points out that no one is teaching the people to save while hundreds are showing them how to spend. Both agree that there is no doubt but that the whole community would be better if people generally spent wisely and saved consistently, and that that which is good for the country at large is good for every individual who lives therein. And so the progressive savings banker urges that we advertise our wares, which are the distinct advantages that we have to offer; that we try to teach the public the value of personal preparedness—the need of looking out for the future; that we go out and get depositors rather than wait until they come in; that we go to those that ought to save and show them how and why they should do so. Thoughtful men and women know that it is wise and expedient for the young and vigorous to look ahead in the days of their youth to the declining years of inability and old age; that the prudent man and woman while in health and vigor prepares for the future by laying aside the surplus earnings of the present—and not only that, but sees to it that there are surplus earnings, either by increasing income or decreasing wants and desires. The wise ones spend less than they earn and save the rest. Thrift and thriftlessness are both habits. A habit—good or bad—once formed is hard to break. "As the twig is bent. the tree is inclined." _ Paraphrasing the Psalms, we might say: "Remember to save in the days of thy youth that the evil days come not when thou shalt say: 'I wish that I had what I spent foolishly.'" With the progressive savings bankers who agree with these propositions, there is no need of argument in favor of school savings banks. The school bank simply gets the child when it is young, helps to form the saving habit, teaches that there are banking institutions where their money can be kept at interest until such time as it is needed. The mutual savings bankers need have no hesitancy in trying to sell his bank to the child and to the parent through the school, because his bank is the bank of the people, a thoroughly unselfish institution. We are seeking nothing more or less than to build up our bank in the community, that it might thereby render better and greater service to that community. The New York State law expressly provides for the establishment of school savings banks, and gives to the mutual savings bank preference in the matter of deposit. Why more savings bankers have not seen the advantages thus offered, I do not understand. This wonderful opportunity to render fine service at exactly the right time and the right place and at the same time to build up the bank of the community, has for the most part gone begging at the bargain counter. And yet, school savings banks are no new idea and no experiment. They have been successfully operated in many foreign countries, where the need of thrift is and has been much greater than here. Out of their great need they have devised this method of teaching thrift. I am glad, however, to note that in the last year many savings bankers who heretofore hesitated, have seen the light and are co-operating in the establishment of these banks. Just see what may be done in the City of New York, and I assume that similar opportunities are to be had or can be arranged for in other towns and cities. The Board of Education invites us to come right into the public schools and open miniature banks; permits us to tell the children all about the value of thrift and saving and of the savings bank system, and helps us to establish contact, not only with the children, but with their parents. The aluthorities are perfectly willing to help us distribute leaflets and pamphlets, telling about thrift, saving and savings banks, and to let the children take these home to their parents. I wonder if any know of any better, more effective and less expensive method of advertising? If ours were money making institutions organized for private profit. with stockholders looking for their share; if the SAVINGS BANK DIVISION. size of the salaries of some of our officers were dependent upon the progress and earnings of our institution, I feel certain that every savings banker in town would be out to establish all the school savings banks he could. When a savings banker establishes his connection with the public school, he is simply doing what he asks prospective depositors to edo—look ahead to the future. School banks of and in themselves do not pay a present-day profit, but the future value of such institutions to the bank and to the community is beyond measure. Take, for instance, what the East New York Savings has been able to accomplish in a year and a half through a school savings department with a competent man at its head. In that time we have opened 22 school banks out of a possible 25. In these schools there are 40,000 children, of whom over 26,000 are depositors in the school bank. When a child accumulates $5 in a school account, the amount is transferred to our bank and an individual account opened in the name of the child, and as each $5 is saved in the school bank it is transferred to the individual account in our bank. In these 18 months we have opened over 6,000 accounts with these children, and the average deposit in these accounts is already over $30. I have no idea how this record compares with what others have done, but I am very sure that it fully justifies our efforts and our expense. The children are a direct point of contact between the bank and the parents. The parents are interested and believe what the children are taught in public school. The opening of an account by the child suggests to the parents that they should open an account, and where the child's account is, the parents take theirs. Our records indicate that this has happened in many cases. It is in the home where there are children that there is most need for economy, saving and foresight. It is there that thrift literature should be sent. For 10 cents a year we send 10 eight-page folders to the child and its parents, one a month, except during vacation. We call our medium the "School Savings Bank Monitor." It is a miniature newspa- rn per or magazine, with articles for the child and parent; pictures, cartoons, reports of contest, honor roll and the like, all of intense interest to both the pupil and the parent. We know that the children look forward eagerly for each issue. We know that our papers are carried home. Those who know the cost of printing, addressisng, closing and mailing. and the uncertainty of delivery of advertising matter, will admit that a cent a copy a month delivered IS a rather reasonable price. We would not be able to mail two copies a year for what it costs us to deliver ten through the school children. The children learn to regard our bank as their bank—the bank that is taking care of their money, and they get the spirit of the thing to such an extent that.in many cases they insist upon the parents opening an account in "their bank" If we were commercial stock banks, we could be justly criticized for seeking our own selfish ends through the schools. but as mutual savings banks organized for service rather than profit, we go without question to render service to the children. In a large measure we give credit to. our school savings work for the increase in our deposits. Since we have had a school savings department our depositors have increased in number from 18,349 to 30,766 and our deposits have increased 34%, in the face of an average increase among all the savings banks in our borough of 8%. We are enthusiastic about the possibilities of school savings banks energetically conducted with the co-operation of the savings banks, and we want to enthuse other savings bankers. There is not time now to tell you just what we have done or how to do it, but we are more than glad to pass on the information upon request. When the savings banks are fully awake to their opportunities, I feel certain that commercial banks will be willing to leave to them entireir the work for which they are so well adapted, well knowing that after the small savings of the people are gathered, that It is put by the savings banks into the channels of commerce. Educational Values By Prof. CLIFFORD BREwsnat UrToN, Provost of Teachers' C ()liege. Columbia University. Mr. Chairman, Members of the Savings Bank Division: I am not a banker and therefore cannot speak to you from the practical experience of the savings bank. My interest is in the schools of the country, and I want, therefore, to speak of this savings movement from the standpoint of the schools. I want to give you a little idea of why it is worth while for the schools, because some of you may have felt if you have tried this, that it has not been worth while because it did not yield, possibly, gain commensurate with the time and money you have put into it. I want to say that no matter how much money you have put into it, no matter how much trouble you have been put to to install savings systems in the schools, and no matter what losses you have met, the thing has been worth while, after all. From the standpoint of the school, the installation of savings banks means thrift, and likewise from the standpoint of the school, thrift is a very large term. Thrift in all of its aspects touches life in every form, and in fact, thrift in its widest sense touches the life throughout the whole term of life. It is this large interest in thrift that the school has and the school has every device for cultivating and giving this large and wide notion of thrift. In the arithmetic class, for example, we can teach those phases of thrift that have to do with money, the saving of money. In the geography class, we can teach those phases of thrift that have to do with the resources of this country, and in the domestic science classes we can teach those that have to do with food, the conservation of food, and in the other classes, we can teach all those that come in through the modern times. All these phases of thrift must be taught and everything you are doing in the school savings bank to teach one phase of the subject is helping to teach these other phases, likewise important. What we are doing in general in the whole thrift movement helps you and what you are doing helps us very materially. I want to make clear that this subject of thrift is so broad that it is particularly the job of the school. I don't want you men to think by that that I am for a moment suggesting that you should get out of this job. I want you to stay in it, but I mean it is particularly the job of the school, and for several reasons; and if you know why it is the job of the school, it will help somewhat to know what your relation to this school job can be. In the first place, it is the job of the school because the subject of thrift in all of its aspects is a very complex idea. It is a very complex habit to get in the minds of children. It is not a simple thing like telling children to clean their teeth. That is a simple habit, easily acquired, but this big idea of thrift and saving, thrift in not only your personal affairs, but in your country's affairs, is a very difficult idea to get over. Any difficult idea has to be put over in favorable circumstances, and under a favorable condition of time. The school demands of the child a certain number of hours a day; likewise, the school commands the child while he is young, and that is the very great thing in your favor, because all new ideas can best be taught to the young. You know, in your offices you dont' want old men. You want young men. The old have their habits formed and you don't get very far with them. So the school is particularly the place to teach thrift because it can hold the child when it is young. There is another reason why it is particularly the job of the school, because the school has primarily the job of form- 178 . BANKERS' CONVENTION. ing habits. Everything we do in school is forming of habits. Your reading, arithmetic and writing are complex habits that the school by repetition had to form. Habits are the most important thing we have in this world to make life easy. They are those things you do easily and automatically. Your life would be very difficult if you did not possess these habits. Those things you do automatically give you time to think. Your eating, walking, speaking—all those things are habits. Your thoughts regarding the city, State, Federal Government—all those matters are habits and it takes a long while to acquire a habit. The school, then, is particularly the place where we have the time to acquire this additional habit called thrift.. Now, since the school seems to be the appropriate place, we want to raise a few questions about the co-operation between the school and the bank. We need the bank very much. We can't get along without the co-operation of the bank. We can't get,along easily without it. We need the bank for certain reasons, and I am going to enumerate one or two of them. In the first place, any habit that is taught'to any one, whatever that habit may be, is not successfully taught if it is just a matter of talking about it. All habits to be effective In life, must be reduced to action. You can talk about handwriting, and crossing of the t and dotting of the i, until you are blue in the face, but that doesn't Mean that the child will necessarily cross the t and dot the i. You can talk about the cleaning of the teeth, but that doesn't translate that into action, and the daily cleaning of the teeth necessarily. You have to establish that habit itself. We talk about thrift in the schools, and always have talked about it. We are talking about it more to-day than we ever did before, but through the school savings bank we have the daily opportunity to practice thrift, to see the thing before us as a daily example just as we see our fellows cleaning their teeth every day or taking exercise, doing what the other fellow does, and doing it and having the opportunity is one-of the greatest factors in establishing a habit. Therefore, your co-operation in that respect is very important. Let me say here that any banker interested in this big movement, interested in the education of your own boys and girls, your own sons and daughters, can af4ord to go to the greatest expense and trouble, even financial loss, to put the savings system into the school because of the educational value it will have. You are not doing this for the extra deposits you bring to your bank. You are doing this for the sake of the boys and girls whom you want to bring up for the next generation to be the right kind of boys and girls. So I particularly plead that you do all possible to co-operate with the school, no matter how much trouble you have to go to, to make this movement of the most educational value that is possible. Now, since we are all in certain efforts to inculcate this thrift movement, both the bank and the school, I am going to take a moment to repeat just certain fundamental laws of learning that the psychologist has taught us. Any learning that people do, after all, proceeds according to certain fundamental laws, though sometimes we never stop to think about them. Therefore, all your efforts at promoting thrift and all of your preaching and advertising and stimulating should have in mind these fundamental laws because it will help you and it will help the school. I have no doubt that much of the thrift effort which has been undertaken by banks has had a certain amount of lost motion in it simply because it hasn't realized what are the correct methods or principles of correct teaching. In the first place, if you want to inculcate any habit, you want to create on the part of the child or the person who is to acquire the habit, the desire to possess it. That is extremely important. Let them see the advantages of the school savings bank. Let them see the advantages of laying-up some money for a rainy day. Don't go at this blindly. There are real advantages in so doing. In the second place, if you want to inculcate a habit, you wsint to give a certain amount of knowledge of the funds- mentals. You don't want the child to do this blindly. in an imitative way. What is some of the fundamental knowledge in relation to thrift? In the first place, they ought to know something about the safety of the place in which the money goes, that it is far more desirable that the money go into the savings bank than get-rich-quick schemes. The schools have to teach that in all their work, and in all your efforts you should help the schools to teach it. In the second place, we want to get rid of the idea that saving is throwing money into a hole and never getting any use from it. Some people feel, "If I had that, I could do this, that and the other." Yes, you could. Help to give this fundamental fact which you know better than I. that saving is investing, and that the money put into the savings bank is merely put into a place where it can get to work and do something to help the industry of the world. Further, let us make it clear, as the Government is now doing, that not only is your money invested and working, but you are getting paid for it. The interest that the bank pays you, compound interest, and so on, that accrues from leaving your money long enough in the bank is all to your credit. Psychologically, I think the present device of the Government in pointing out that if you buy certain Government certificates you earn so much for a certain length of time, is far better than those devices where you don't point out the earning power of the money. I am quite sure during the war we would have sold more Liberty bonds if we had pointed out that the 4% Liberty bond was going to yield the buyer not a hundred but two hundred dollars, that a hundred-dollar bond would bring back the buyer two hundred dollars if he would only put the coupons into the savings bank and let it compound for 17 years. Every time we sold a Liberty bond we should have said, "Loan the Government $100 and after 17 years you will get back $200." Those fundamental facts, I think, are of interest and very, very important. I have said in the first place, one of the fundamental laws is the desire to gain the habit. Another fundamental is to support them with some fundamental knowledge. The third law is in getting a new idea there must be repetition, and that is where the school can come in. That is where the banks come in. Don't think you can go at this six months and then let up. You have to go at it eternally, if you want to fix the habit. So the idea of repetition, taking the thing over and over and over, just as in advertising, is the thing that counts. Then, another thing is the practice of that idea. If you want the idea to work through, you have to give people the opportunity to practice it, and there is where the school savings bank comes in, to make a fundamental law effective. giving the opportunity to practice it. And fifth (this must be so conducted that you get the fifth law of learning) there must be a resulting satisfaction. If you have worked all your life to save money and put your boy or girl through college, you want some satisfaction, and your satisfaction is sufficient that the boy or girl is successful in college. And there, with every other habit that we put through, must be a resulting satisfaction; in some instances. merely the saving of money to go to college, to buy a house. but the point is that there is a resulting satisfaction, and seeing there is one, rather than annoyance, is extremely important. Let. me sum up by saying that the school savings bank from the school standpoint is distinctly worth while. If in any instances it has not been worth while to you in a business way, let me assure you that in educational ways it has been more than worth while, and I therefore appeal for your constant and continuous and hearty co-operation with the schools, no matter how much trouble it may put you to, in order to give the boys and girls of this country that priceless gift, the habit of thrift. SAVINGS BANK DIVISION. COMMITTEE 179' OFFICERS'REPORTS-SAVINGS BANK DIVISION Annual Address of Raymond R. Frazier, President Savings Bank Division, President Washington Mutual Savings Bank, Seattle, Wash. the country the benefit of thoes studies. It is hoped that school savings banking may soon become universal in the United States. (2) Savings Bank Laws.—Does any student of the subject doubt that the best way, after all, to really promote systematic, continuous thrift among the masses is by the enactment of scientific savings bank laws? If so, study the history of savings deposits in the various States: Consider New York, for example. This State has builded its savings bank legislative structure so wisely and well that Alvan Markle, who addressed the American Bankers Association in Los Angeles last year in support of Postal Savings Banking, declared that "the savings banks of New York are practically as solvent as the Government itself." So high a tribute might well be paid Massachusetts and other New England and Eastern States. In New York we find as the result of one hundred years of scientific savings bank legislation, one-third, and in Massachusetts two-thirds, of the entire population, men, women, and children included, have savings accounts in savings banks. In California on the Pacific Coast 500 out of every 1,000 of the inhabitants have savings accounts in the State savings banks. Why? Because, in California they have adapted the New York and New England mutual savings bank policy to a system of capitalizaed savings banking. In California the law requires absolute segregation of savings from demand deposits, and the restricted investment of savings funds in high-grade securities. It is a fact that in those States which have the soundest banking laws are found the greatest percentage of savings depositors to population. Thus it has been clearly demonstrated in the East and in the West: First, that it is within the power of the State more than any other known force to encourage universal thrift by enacting good laws to govern savings banking, Secondly, that it is within the power of bankers themselves to encourage and direct such legislation. As to the segregation of savings deposits, the Division is on record in a resolution unanimously adopted at the Washington, D. C., convention of the American Bankers Association in 1920, which declares: "That the Division will improve every opportunity for calling the attention of the public, as well as of bankers, to the peculiar nature of savings deposits and the necessity of preventing any situation to arise under State or national law whereby the savings depositor will become, in effect, a deferred creditor of the bank." No way has yet been discovered to vouchsafe to savings depositors the protection to which they are entitled, except by laws requiring the absolute segregation of savings from demand deposits, and the investment of such deposits in a restricted class of high-grade securities, to be held solely for the benefit and protection of such savings depositors. Thirdly, another way to stimulate thrift is by encouraging the acquisition of homes. After the Armistice a bill was introduced in Congress to provide a revolving fund of fifty million dollars to be loaned through Federal Reserve banks for home building. Fortunately, the bill did not pass. It served, however, to arouse interest among savings bankers. What is fifty million dollars to the savings banks of the country? It is only a fraction of one per cent of the resources of the mutual savings banks alone. It is considerably less than one-half of one per cent of the total savings deposits in the banks of the country. Savings banks could, without the slightest embarrassment, establish within ten years a revolving fund of fifty times fifty million dollars to be employed in the encouragement of home building. Can you conceive of any greater insurance to the stability and safety of the nation, or a more effective means of promoting the happiness and contentment of our people, than would thin; be accomplished? Savings bankers have it directly within their power to make this a nation of home owners, and thus to insure us for all time against the destructive fires of discontent and radicalism. And from a purely selfish standpoint, that of building up your own business, it is impossible to conceive of a sounder method than to lend money to people with which to buy and build homes, providing always you extend the privilege of repayment in convenient installments and at low rates of interest on unpaid balances. When you lend money for home building and extend the partial payment privilege to borrowers, you establish a system of enforced thrift, and you develop men and women who will uphold law and order under all circumstances. In America we are accused of "Dollar Worship," and a stigma attaches to our method of teaching the young the meaning of success in life. We Americans get the impression very early that the poor boy who becomes rich is the one to be emulated. And that the measure of a man's success is determined by the value of the property he has collected together under restricted ownership. As the greatest menace to any country is the concentration of wealth into a few hands, so the greatest boon to any nation is the existence of powerful forces, such as our savings institutions, operating to accomplish a more equal distribution of the wealth of the nati3n. If, therefore, you ever become discouraged in your work, just call to mind • that last year banking institutions paid more than four hundred and fifty million dollars interest to savings depositors, an amount sufficient to build ninety thousand homes worth five thousand dollars each, or one hundred forty thousand homes worth three thousand apiece! Derive lasting satisfaction from the knowledge that you savings bankers are engaged in a business that stands for the increased happiness and contentment of the masses, that stands for a more equal distribution of wealth. a business that encourages the average man to accumulate a competence as an insurance policy against want in the days of declining earning capacity. President Frazier: Ladies and Gentlemen: At the risk even of dividing your attention at the very beginning, I am going to inflict upon you a few figures, and in so doing, I believe that we will add to our knowledge, and therefore possibly to our power because you know the old saying is that "Knowledge is Power." With that brief apology, I will say that the Constitution and By-Laws of the American Bankers Association provide for four general Divisions, including "a Savings Bank Division whose scope shall embrace all matters relating to institutions receiving savings deposits." A majority of the thirty-six theusand banks in the United States actually receive "savings deposits." hence the Savings Bank'Division sustains a peculiarly intimate relationship with all classes of banking institutions. The strictly savings banks no longer have a monopoly on savings bank activities. Publicists and statisticians, however, have clung tenaciously to the idea that no banldng institution which transacts a commercial banking business may be properly classified as a savings bank. Practically all authorities every where, when dealing with savings bank statistics in the United States, include only those statistics which pertain to (1) Mutual Savings Banks, and (2) Capitalized Savings Banks which do not accept checking accounts. A few years ago, while President, William Howard Taft told the Governors of our forty-eight States that of the entire "savings deposits" in this country, mutual savings banks held approxiniately 80%. In giving out these figures, Mr. Taft had reference only to s ric ly savings banks, ignoring "savings deposits" in the savings departments of National and State banks and trust companies, because no official statistics were available covering the latter class of institution. As late as August 1922 no less keen an observer than out distinguished banker-economist, Mr. John H. Puelicher, First Vice-President of the American Bankers Association, declared that whereas in some countries one-half of the entire population have savings accounts—in the Uni:ed Stales we have but nin:ey-nine savings depositors out of every thousand inhabi, ants." Now, Mr. Puelicher's figures, like those of Mr. Taft, had reference to the business of s ric ly savings banks. Mr. Puelicher obtained his figures, as no doubt did Mr. Taft,from the official reports of the Comptroller of the Currency. The report of the Comptroller for 1921 shows that the mutual and stock savings banks of the country had on their books about ten million, eight hundred forty thousand savings accounts. If that figure represented the total savings accounts in the United States, Mr. Puelicher's statement that in this country "we have but ninety-nine savings depositors out of every thousand inhabitants" would be correct. The fact is, however. that when we consider the combined savings business of commercial banks and strictly savings banks, the number of savings depositors is found to be over twenty-six million instead of less than eleven million; thus, there are about two hundred fifty savings depositors instead of only ninety-nine out of every thousand of our inhabitants. Also, the aggregate of savings deposits in the United States, instead of being less than seven billions, is actually over fourteen billion dollars. These new figures, which have been very carefully compiled by the Savings Bank Division in co-operation with the Comptroller of the Currency and State officials throughout the country, have a double value. First, they are inspirational; secondly, they emphasize the fact that in many sections of our great country, commercial banking institutions are called upon to assume the functions and responsibilities of savings banks. Incidentally, it is proper to state that in so far as these commercial banks are governed in their savings bank activities by lofty ideals of safety and service to depositors, they are a blessing to their respective communities. In view of the by-law above quoted that "The scope of the Savings Bank Division shall embrace all matters relating to institutions receiving savings deposits," it is the duty of our Division to render every possible service to all classes of banking institutions which lawfully solicit savings accounts. The Savings Bank Division continues to work diligently to facilitate an increase in the number of savings depositors and the aggregate of savings deposits. During the past year generous contributions have been made by the Division to the literature of savings banking—including a paper by our Secretary, Mr. Leo Day Woodworth, on "Twenty-five Plans for Increasing Savings"; also papers on "Insured Savings Accounts," "Christmas and Thrift Clubs,""Industrial Savings,""Home Economics,""Household and Personal Budgets," "School Savings Banking," &c., all of which have been published in the "Journal." In this address I shall refer briefly to three methods of encouraging thrift: (1) School Savings Banking.—This is easily one of the most important activities in which savings bankers may engage. We find in some cities practically the entire enrollment of public school children have savings accounts, while in other places the work is entirely neglected. If those responsible for the education of the children of America, namely, school boards and teachers, could themselves be educated to a realization of the tremendous advantage to the nation of directing the minds of the young along the lines of property ownership, no excuse based on crowded curricula would ever be advanced against school savings banking. "Train up a child in the way he should go,and when he is old he will not departfrom it." School authorities would better eliminate one or several standard subjects from the school curriculum than to ignore the opportunity offered in scholl savings banking to encourage children in the acquisition of funds with which to meet the necessities imposed by our civilization. Knowledge is a good thing, but knowledge without thrift is worse than ignorance. The spendthrift is a menace to society. Anarchism breeds readily among spendthrifts. Patriotism waxes strong among savers. Universal thrift • will bring happiness and contentment to all our people and establish a Remarks of T. B. McAdams, President A. B. A. nation that can never be destroyed. The sure way to create a nation of savers is to teach school children how to save by providing within the investment of small sums. President Frazier: We have with us another distinguished gentleman schools practical facilities for the During the past three years the Savings Bank Division has been es- who comes from a very busy time of numerous meetings to spend a few pecially aggressive in promoting school savings banking and is pleased minutes with us, and I want him to greet you before you go. Before I call participating during upon him, I wish to say that it is a happy and hopeful sign in modern eduto record that the total number of pupils reported as 666,000 last year cation that we can select men t3 head our great educational institutions who the last school year was 1,305,000, as compared with before. A special committee of the Division has measure up as statesmen and practical economists in the manner in which and 463,b00 the year of our distinguished speaker who has addressed us this afternoon surely does. made a nation-wide study of the best plans, and will give the bankers 180 BANKERS' CONVENTION. Before we get into our business meeting, which will come soon, I want you to listen for a few minutes, because it is the first and only opportunity we will have, to bear our very able and very lovable President of the American Bankers Association, Mr. Thomas B. McAdams of Richmond, Virginia. Mr. McAdams: Mr. President, ladies and gentlemen: It is a privilege, but quite a surprise. It seems that the policy inaugurated this year of eliminating our former custom of conducting a three-ring circus, insofar as the Sections of the various Divisions are concerned, has been a success, and I congratulate the Savings Division upon having this wonderful meeting this afternoon. For the purpose of considering that fundamental problem of the future success of this nation, the success of our convention in New York is not so much in the registration of almost ten thousand five hundred bankers and their wives—well over twice the size of any previous convention in the history of our Association—but rather in the wonderful interest that the men and women are taking in such messages as have just been presented to you by Dr. Butler. I am sure that we will go away from New York—I am impressed wita the hospitality of the people here who have poured out their very spirit in making U3feel at home, but also that we will be able to carry back to our homes a feeling of stability,of confidence in our nation, and above all, the need for a firmer grasp upon ourselves, that we may more fully measure up to our responsibilities of citizenship. America is looking to-day to this convention: it is looking to the expressions which will go forth from this meeting of bankers, and it seems to me if we carry nothing else back, we can go home to encourage people, first, to go to work and to work hard, and then to save systematically a part of what they produce, for from the combination of those two will come prosperity for America, and increasingly will come our ability to assist in working out world problems which were so forcibly presented to us to-day by Mr.Lamont. Report of Committee on Federal Legislation. Your Committee on Federal Legislation submits the following report and will only refer to the more important items that affect the Division that have come up during the current year. The Committee appreciates the digest as issued from time to time by the General Counsel,Judge Paton of Federal legislation passed and pending of interest to bankers. We are pleased to report that the subject of tax exempt securities has crystallized in a proposed amendment to the Constitution, which,if adopted, will permit the Government to tax the income of all securities hereafter issued and in turn permit the States to tax the incomes of Government securities hereafter issued. The putting into effect of such a constitutional amendment will mark the close of diligent efforts put forth by the Savings Division and the Association, in conjunction with other groups, for the removal of the most pronounced evils that have troubled Government and business operations. While this constitutional amendment has received the favorable consideration of the Administration, yet, in direct conflict with the spirit of such an amendment,the last revenue Act of 1921 contained a provision ofexempting for a period of five years, beginning Jan. 1 1922,so much of the amount received by an individual as dividends or interest from domestic buildings and loan associations, operated exclusively for the purpose of making loans to members, as does not exceed $300. This exemption was opposed by the Association and there is now pending a bill to repeal this provision. This exemption subsidizes a class of Institutions operating under the general designation of domestic building and loan associations, without, however, Inquiring into the plan of operation or the character of service rendered, and is class legislation in direct discrimination against banks and other financial institutions. The provision is probably of greater value as an argument for publicity and advertising than it will be in actual savings from taxes to depositors. Many of the associations have already used this enactment as a basis for appealing for savings deposits by reason of this special recognition on the part of the Government. It will not promote additional thrift, but may have a tendency to transfer savings deposits from banking institutions to those associations. The revenue Bill, in fixing the making of loans to members as the gauge of mutuality overlooks the important fact that mutuality is really to be determined from where the profits of operations go, rather than to whom the money is loaned that is received on deposit. Mutual savings banks and mutual insurance companies are types of mutuality which loan money to other than their members, but the profits of operation go exclusively to the depositors or policy holders, in the respective cases. The decision of Judge Peck, in the District Court of the United States, Southern District of Ohio, Eastern Division, recently rendered in the case of the Lilley Building and Loan Company, Columbus, Ohio, is most illuminating on this subject of exemptions. The bankers have no quarrel with the building and loan associations as such, but contend that the principle of equality in taxation is proper, for it is beyond the province of a government to select one class for exemption and deny it to others, and still be a government for all the people. The Savings Division has also opposed an amendment to the Postal Savings Bill, seeking to enlarge and extend the operations of the department, which would put that part of the Government service in direct competition with the savings business of the banks throughout the country. Much has been expected from the adoption of a so-called budget system for Federal appropriations. Every means for emphasizing the apparent need for a decrease in the cost of government should be taken by creating public sentiment aganist unnnecessary appropriations. Previous report from this Committee have indicated the evils of a Federal aid system of appropriations. The importance of bankers generally being in close touch with proposed and pending legislation is emphasized to a greater degree to-day than ever before. The time has passed when bankers or any orther class of business men are to be accused of sinister motives when opposing or advocating the enactment of legislation affecting their interests. Watchful waiting will not suffice in the future, but active participation in presenting to the various Congressional committees the views of bankers on bills affecting their business has become one of the essentials inproperly serving the public. This presentation of views must be timely and comprehensive, and Congressional committees and Administration leaders should welcome the active participation of our members in these matters, to the end that a proper and thorough understanding may be had of all questions that are presented as subjects of legislation; otherwise, safe and sane laws cannot be enacted that will be of benefit both to the Government as a whole and its constituents in their individual endeavors. In brief, your Committee recommends co-operation in all matters of legislation and it seems needless to restate the well-known position of bankers generally, that special privileges are not desired, but sound and sane legislation is sought that will promote and not restrict the general activities of the Government business and the business of public and private corporations and individuals. Your Committee has been impressed with the difficulties that are apparent in looking after legislation directly affecting the Savings Division. It has been suggested that its work should be more closely co-ordinated with the Federal Legislative Committee of the Association and a means looking toward such co-ordination might be found in having the chairmen of the Federal Legislative Committees of the four Divisions as members, or members in an advisory capacity, of the Federal Legislative Committee of the Association. In this way the General Association Committee would be kept in close touch with the work of the different divisions and the different divisions would have direct contact with the main Committee. In conclusion, our thanks are extended to the various officers and divisions of the Association and members for their co-operation in matters affecting the work of this Committee. Respectively submitted, CHAS. H. DEPPE, Chairman: JOSEPH H. SOLIDAY, W. A. SADD, B. F. SAUL, Wm. E. KNOX, JOSEPH R. NOEL. Report of Committee on State Legislation. During 1922 regular legislative sessions were held in eleven States, viz.: New Jersey, Georgia, Maryland, South Carolina, Kentucky, Massachusetts. New York, Virginia. Louisiana, Mississippi, Rhode Island, Your Committee would call attention to a mischievous tendency evidenced in the Legislatures of several States, notably Massachusetts, to regulate the internal government of savings banks and to dictate the proportion -urities by legislative of their assets which shall be invested in certain see enactment. Such legislation as would force savings banks to pay interest monthly or provide for the election of trustees by depositors or compel the investment of ft certain portion of their deposits in first mortgages on real estate illustrates the viciousness of such legislation. Fortunately no such legislation was actually placed on the statute books and the efforts of Mr. Swig of Massachusetts to secure sufficient names to a petition asking for a referendum vote of several of these measures was also unsuccessful, which is encouraging as indicating a sanity on the part of a majority of our legislators and electorate that is gratifying, but the recurring number of such bills introduced in the various State Legislatures. and even in Congress, should be sufficient warning to us that we should not cease to be on our guard and should combat such efforts with a vigorous counter propaganda. Investments of savings bank funds should be properly restricted by law so as to protect the interest of the depositor, but when the line is crossed by barring some investments and compelling others, the proper limits of legislation have been overstepped. There are many desirable social objects which merit our support as individuals. but the duty of savings banks is primarily to keep funds safely and wisely invested and not to promote this or that scheme of social welfare, no matter how estimable such may be. FUTILITY OF GUARANTY FUND LEGISLATION. Lastly, your Committee wishes to place itself on record as unalterably opposed to legislation looking to the guaranty of bank deposits. That the sentiment favorable to the guaranty of deposits is not dead is seen by the fact that a bill has been presented in Congress providing for the creation of a national deposits guaranty fund in each Federal district, providing the national banks in such districts vote favorably for such a fund. Eight States now have guaranty bank deposit laws upon their statute books. The motives which prompted the laws in such cases were economic rather than political and we usually find the bank deposits guaranty idea flourishing during a financial panic or as a result of such. The principal arguments advanced in favor of the guaranty of deposits are: First. That it would prevent panics. Second. That it would bring from hiding places hoarded capital. Third. That it would afford complete security to depositors. The Texas bank deposit law became effective in 1910 and during the twelve years of its existence it has probably worked as effectively as any deposit guaranty Act could. Depositors in failed banks have been paid in full within ninety days and it is claimed that the Act has given to the people of that State, in a time of great uncertainty, confidence, whereby they allowed their money to remain in the banks to a much greater degree than they would if such a law had not been in force. In Oklahoma the guaranty law has had a stormy career. Depositors in failed banks have not been paid in full and the guaranty fund is reported to be in arrearages in an amount of over $1,000,000. In North Dakota and Washington the guaranty deposit Act has been a complete failure so far as prompt payment to depositors or inspiring confidence in banks in the State in times of panic are concerned. Over sixty banks were closed in North Dakota and nothing has so far been paid the depositors in any of the closed banks as yet. In Washington, where the system is optional, it has failed to accomplish any of the purposes claimed by its advocates, but as in that State the banks have the option of going into the guaranty system or remaining out, that State is not a fair test. The guaranty deposit system is also voluntary in Kansas. In Nebraska and South Dakota guaranty deposits Acts have worked with reasonable satisfaction, but so far in neither of these States has there been a thorough test of the value of the system under stress. In conclusion, we maintain that a guaranty of deposits violates the sound economic principle that the competent and good should not be taxed to pay for the bad or inefficient, that honesty should not be taxed to pay for dishonesty or experience and ability for the errors of lack of training or knowledge required to foot the bill for the mistakes of Ignorance. STATE SAVINGS FUND LEGISLATION. Of the States holding legislative sessions, legislative action of interest savings banks was taken by only two—New York and Massachusetts. to New York. The following bills of interest to savings banks were passed by the New York Legislature of 1922 and have been signed by the Governor and are now law: First. A law permitting ten days of grace at quarterly as well as at semi-annual dividend periods and permitting payment of dividends on accounts closed between dividend periods. SAVINGS BANK DIVISION. Second. A bill permitting savings banks to make loans of not exceeding 100% instead of 90%, as at present. of the balance due holders of pass books pledged as security for promissory notes. Third. A bill permitting a trustee to deposit money in any savings bank of which he is a trustee and receive dividends or interest on such deposits the same as any other depositor. Fourth. A bill extending .the field of savings bank investment so as to include "Farm loan bonds issued by the Federal Land Bank of the First Land Bank District as created pursuant to the Federal Farm Loan Act." 'Fifth. A bill requiring banks, savings banks and trust companies to give information on request to local authorities charged with the administration of poor laws as to whether an applicant for relief or husband or wife has funds on deposit with the bank. Two bills snot cad the support of the Savings Bank Association of the State of New York failed of passage. One would peemit any savings bank In any city to open one branch, provided the Superintendent of Banks first gives his approval. The second would have permitted savings banks to conduct a limited safe deposit business, and this met with such str3ng opposition from the Safe Deposit Association that it never got out of committee. There seems to be no reason why savings banks should be debarred from rendering such service when commercial banks are permitted to d3 so, and much of the opposition to such a bill might be removed if it was restricted to bonds, mortgages, stocks, securities and valuable papers of any kind. Massachusetts. The special commission on revision of banking laws appointed in Massaf chusetts owed its appointment probably to the failure in 1920 and 1921 o five trust companies in Boston. Hence it is natural that toe commission devoted much of its attention to the savings departments of trust companies. The conclusions of this commission sustain the position that the combination under one management of a savings department designed primarily and principally for the encouragement of small savings and having the matter of the security of deposits as its bas:c principle, with commercial institutions whose object is and always must be to make a profit, is unwise. Bills which became laws were: First. A bill providing for the election of savings bank trustees in three groups with terms of one, two and three years, respectively. Second. A bill requiring bonding of officers and employees of savings banks. Third. A bill permitting loans to depositors secured by pass books to an amount not exceeding 90% of their deposit and for a period not longer than the interest dividend date. Maine. In Maine a special recess committee of the Legislature is Investigating the general subject-matter of the revision of the banking laws of that State and this committee is paying special attention to toe laws pertaining to investments by savings banks. The banking department of that State bas propounded an interesting question to such commission, as follows:"In view of the difficulty in keeping step with changing conditions with the process of constant amending of the savings bank law, is it feasible to have a commission appointed under legislative authority and empowered ta act by prescribing from time to time rules and regulations under which securities can be legalized?" CONCLUSION. In conclusion we would again call to your attention that, in spite of every effort to render banking institutions as safe as possible, losses wilt occur So .ong as the human equation exists and the security a depositors In the final analysis will, in the future as in the past, rest primarily upon the character, ability and sound judgment of those who manage our savings institutions. On th3 other hand, while no amount of statutory regulation or supervision can entirely overcome or supersede this human element, nevertheless every endeavor looking toward helpfui regulation and supervision should receive the hearty encouragement and active support of this Association, and especially of the Savings Bank Division. Respectfully submitted, THOMAS F. WALLACE, Chairman, ELIAS A. SMITH, GEORGE E. BROOK, J. F. SARTORI, ERNEST K. SATTERLEE. N. B. COFFMAN. Report of Committee on Savings. 181 in liberal quantity, into the practical operation of member banks engaged in school savings work. The official A. B. A. system must teach and must be inexpensive and economically sound to survive, as the profit is small, if it exists at all. The Committee has found many cases in which volume of deposits has been obtained by various expensive methods, but that these systems do not survive the test of ago. It should be mentioned that of the four remaining members of the Executive Committee, one is opposed to the recommendations above, two did not reply in writing and one approves in principle, but states that a similar plan failed in this particular community. Indus rial Savings. Five of the six members of the Savings Committee and a majority of the Executive Committee have approved the following recommendations: 1. That the pay-roll system be used. 2. That an authorization from the employee must be signed, instructing the cashier or paymaster of the corporation to deduct so much per week from his pay envelope, placing therein a card, or other slip, showing the amount deducted. 3. That employees be reqyired to sign a regular bank signature card, which will be retained by the bank. 4. That no new account will be accepted for less than 25 cents per week. 5. That it be understood the authorization of the employee to the cashier is voluntary and can be canceled at any time. 6. That pas-books will be kept at the bank, subject to inspection by , the employee, or at the option of the employee they may be kept by the cashier, where they can be withdrawn at any time accompanied by a receipt signed by the employee and given to the cashier. 7. That the hearty co-operation of the corporation officials must be secured, and yet paternalism, or any attempt to examine pass-books and pry into the affairs of the employee be avoided. 8. That the forms and stationery to carry out such a plan shall be approved by the Executive Committee of the Savings Bank Division. General. There are two ways of carrying out the recommendations above on School and Industrial Savings: 1. For the Secretary of the Division to sell the forms and stationery required to member banks at cost. 2. To furnish member banks with accurate samples of forms and stationery to b3 used,allowing member banks to have them printed at their Own expense. In either case the question of copyright must be settled. Your Chairman feels that No. 1 above should be adopted, but as these are matters that belong under the jurisdiction of the Executive Committee and the Legal Department, no recommendation is made. The Committee has not been hampered by lack of attention on the part of committee members. Full co-operation has been received from officers of the Division. Respectfully submitted, ALVIN P. HOWARD, Chairman. E. V. HAYS, W. S. WEBB, MRS. ALLAN P. STEVENS. PHILIP J. LAWLER. MYRON F. CONVERSE, Report of Committee on Facilities and Service The subjects within the province of your Committee on Bank Facilities and Service are numerous, but are handled ordinarily as matters of office routine. We will make the following brief mention of a few: First, we have considered the advisability of submitting an outline for the establishment and operation of home service departments in savings banks. We concluded that such an effort is premature in view of our limited experience. Second, more effective use of pay-roll checks in place of cash is advanced as a means for promoting thrift by introducing employees to the banks as well as a measure of safety. The manufacturers of a check-writer have collected data from several banks which tends to show that the cost of handling is reduced and that there is not the amount of inconvenience in paying the checks which was anticipated. The Studebaker Corporation of South Bend, Indiana, is one of the companies which now has operated the pay-roll check system for a long enough period to demonstrate its efficiency. and our office was recently advised by their auditor that a return to the cash system would not be considered. Third, we request your approval and hearty co-operation in the movement to legalize and promote the establishment of branches by institutions for savings within the locality where its principal office is located. The proposition rests on the broad ground that nothing can do more to encourage the practice of thrift in personal finance than making savings bank facilities more convenient to the great bulk of our population. This idea is at the base of all industrial savings systems, and is involved in the school savings banking work. We believe that an impartial examination of the subject will disarm any opposition from commercial bankers in States which are served by mutual banks and in other States we suggest that the question be handled in a broad-minded way in order that a real public need may be served and that the savings banks may competently perform the functions for which they were created. Respectfully submitted, SAMUEL M.HAWLEY,Chairman, VICTOR A. LERSNER, W. E. MOREHOUSE, JOHN H. DEXTER. The work of the committee for the year has been concentrated upon recommendations for official A. B. A. School and Industrial Saving Plans. It has not been possible to hold meetings of the Committee, but twelve separate exchanges of inter-committee letters have produced the same, or better, result, and while there has been no verbal discussion, the evidence has been submitted in writing and the various ideas set forth in black and white. These ideas were fully discussed with the Executive Committee at the White Sulphur Springs meeting, after which your Chairman interchanged letters with the members of the Executive Committee for tle purpose of reaching more definite conclusions. The work was reviewed from every angle and from all parts of the country, In order to get a broad view of the problems involved and to study the various systems in use. School Savings. Five of the six members of the Savings Committee and five of the nine members of the Executive Committee have approved in writing the following recommendations: -book system which will be operated by actual collections of 1. A pass money in the schools on certain days of the week, the amounts to be entered in a school folder, or school pass-book. Report of Committee on Mortgage Loans. 2. The transfer of these school funds to be made to individual accounts Events of the past year have served to confirm the general opinion of opened at the bank, after $1 has been accumulated on the school folder. 3. The active co-operation of teachers, with an optional feature whereby bankers that real estate values of the war and readjustment periods would high stand pupils may act as tellers and cashiers within the respective be deflated regardless of propaganda to the contrary. We will here record our final verdict that the cost of money to borrowers grades,in order to relieve the teacher of the detail duties required. -book system, who could offer actual security was never materially inflated and the cost 4. No recommendation is made for any particular pass but if the Secretary of the Savings Bank Division is requested to furnish of money at no time was an important item in balancing of profit and loss a complete system with forms prepared, he can recommend any plal or in fixing rents. The restraint exercised by bankers who did have cash that complies with the above requirements and that meets with the approval available for real estate mortgage investment only serves to prove the high degree of public spirit with which the savings banks meet their reof the Executive Committee of the Savings Bank Division. 5. It is recognized that any complete and detail system with all official sponsibilities. The extent of the building activity of the last year exceeds all records, would be impractical at this time, and that it is better forms prepared to reach an agreement on the general principles of school savings as viewed both as to capital invested and projects undertaken. The distribution of from information and statistics already collected, leaving some room for that activity seem its be quite regardless of any tax exemption or other subsidy which was made available in a few instances. We anticipate that improvement. The Committee feels that it is fundamental to teach thrift and economy the movement will continue until the cheaper class of accommodations are in the school as a lesson and at the same time to throw these two qualities, provided in as ample quantity as soon will be the higher priced. • 182 .BANKERS' CONVENTION. Mortgage Loan Business of the Banks. of mortgage loan demand which is taken care of through banks. Inquiry One hangover from the period of extreme scarcity of housing and of of rurai banks will, I am sure, develop information along this line which inactivity in the building trades has been an agitation for new credit facilities will be instructive." which belittles the amounts and underestimates the capacity of the banks A State bank in Wisconsin with capital and surplus of $60,000 and loans in the field of mortgage finance. and discounts of $459,000 reports real estate mortgages of $332,000, but Thus a speaker before the national Convention of Realtors asserted remits that new loans have ceased with it and other country banks due to that perhaps a majority of "the commercial banks and the savings banks advice of the State Bank Commissioner, and that a great deal of the small and trust companies" are not interested in mortgage loans because "it will activity by the Federal Farm Loan institutions has been because of loans take all the resources of all those institutions to finance the short-time being turned over to them by the banks in the case of farmers who were commercial paper which is so much more profitable than frozen credits of very slow pay or were running behind and not meeting their obligations. the mortgage loans, and the banks are not investing in mortgage loans to the State Bank Commissioner Medill of Delaware says that his experience extent that they formerly did." He further asserted "the banking interests indicates an annual turnover amounting to 5% of total mortgages in of America will not Invest in mortgages in the future as they have in the the State. past" because of the Federal Reserve System and its possible further A national bank in New Hampshire reports no mortgage loans by the extension. bank but advises that such loans in its community are made through But, turning to the annual report of the Comptroller of the Currency mutual savings banks at 5% and that the accommodation is granted for 1921, page 168, we find that 30,812 reporting banks in the United States whenever the amount requested is reasonable. hold a total of $4,753,000,000 of loans on real estate security, of which A national bank in Baltimore which reports $30,000 mortgages owned $610.000,000 was secured by farm land. At page 144 of the same report but no turnover says that "this institution, as well as other banks, lends the loans on real estate by mutual savings banks are shown to amount to quite a sum of money to building associations on their notes endorsed by $2,460,000,000 ($20,000,000 on farm lands), or about one-half of the the directors. These funds are used in building operations, and it would national aggregate. seem that this fact should be noted in determining whether or not banks Neither new nor renewed loans are reported to the Federal or State are a material factor in real estate mortgage markets." A State bank in Oregon with capital and surplus of $2,000,000 reported officers, and no estimate of this annual turnover seems to exist. The Division has therefore sent a questionnaire to a limited but well distributed $661,000 mortgage loans. Several of its officers are on boards of charitable list of banks and trust companies, being those which are represented on the institutions whose endowment funds are in first mortgage loans for investlist of officers of the American Bankers Association and its four divisions. ment and income that "ran into considerable amounts and are usually The replies are illuminating because of the general interest shown by these directed from the officer's desk that may be handling the particular enbankers in the mortgage market,and an intention to take not less, but more, dowment." A State bank in Washington says that the banks in Yakima Valley are interest in it as land values stabilize. Our inquiry did not include personal loans for real estate improvement, but we noted that localities which had a doing a short-time loan business, generally leaving the farm mortgage relatively low percentage of such bank loans and mortgage securities were business to the loan companies and Federal Farm Loan System and the usually found to be drawing upon bank funds for the operations of finance residential loans to savings and loan associations. A national bank in Tennessee writes: "I am of the opinion that all banks corporations and co-operative credit associations. Our inquiry indicates that during the fiscal year.ending June 30 1922, in Chattanooga have outstanding now, directly and indirectly, real estate the banks of the country loaned not less than $2,000,000,000 on mortgage loans that they have negotiated and that they have on hand to the amount security, although it was notoriously a year of "frozen credits" and reduced of twenty to twenty-five million dollars, which is almost equal to 80% of the total loans of this community for commercial and other purposes." financial activity. This estimate is based upon the following table: A State bank in Missouri estimates that the average country bank Proportkm of Mortgage Loans During Year ending June 30 1922 to Holdings carries real estate loans to about the amount of total capital and surplus. on That Date. Practically all farm loans are placed by bankers, percentage in Federal North Atlantic 231West South Central 35 Land Bank being small. Middle Atlantic 26 A State bank in Indiana says: "Our farmers have never suffered from 48J Pacific South Atlantic 451Mountain 50 a lack of credit to meet legitimate demands or needs." East North Central_ 461 A State bank in Michigan reports capital and surplus of $350,000 and • West North Central 421 Total all States 45 mortgage loans of $386,000. The State law requ'res 50% of savings It is as difficult to compare the extent and scope of banker activity in deposits in mortgage loans, but this bank meets both farm and State different States or even in adjoining communities as it has been difficult requirements where safety is assured regardless of statutory minimum. to make a so-called national housing problem out of conditions in a few Amortization. localities. Types of financial institutions will vary according to local The application of the principle of amortization of mortgage loans customs and needs. This variation'is only one of the many examples of has been stimulated to an unusual degree during the period of changing and tne limited field for nationalizing all business activity. For illustration, more or less unstable values in the real estate market. It is unnecessary we cite the following replies: here to review the arguments as both the banks and the permanent investors From a national bank in North Dakota: "The only responsible, forces now understand the merits of the plan for all concerned. in the State in the farm mortgage game are the banks and trust companies. No feature of our work for the wider application of the principle of and they do, without any question, even for the Federal Farrn*Loan Bank. thrift is more important than to teach that mere ability to get into debt 95% of all of the farm loan business." Although this bank at time of does not prove that indebtedness is a desirable condition. Amortization of writing held but one or two small loans, it had on its books $385.000 of farm a mortgage loan places very little additional obligation upon the borrower's loans which had been negotiated by its President as an officer ofthe bank. income. It results in better security for carrying charges along with less Another national bank in North Dakota, reporting capital, surplus and ability to venture into uncertain investments, and the liquidation of each profits of $600,000 and mortgage loans of $388.000. or about 10% of total loan provides new means for meeting subsequent needs of other borrowers. loans, writes that "this bank is advancing funds for real estate loans in Larger Use of Savings Deposits for Mortgage Loans. about the proportion it should, and I think that you will find the majority of Western banks are doing likewise." Your Committee heartily endorses the effort by President Frazier to He further advises that "practically all of the farm mortgages negotiated stimulate a larger investment of savings deposits in housing loans whatever in North Dakota are moved througn the banks of the State, the bank or an may be the nature of the bank which holds these deposits. officer acting as agent for outside investment, arranging for the funds, We approve the principle that savings depositors as a clam.; have a right collecting principal and interest, and looking after loans. All banks carry to look to their savings institutions for a class of loans which are essential more or less of farm mortage loans." both for their advantage and for the public welfare. A State bank in Minnesota with capital and surplus of $400,000 had city As indicated above, no general percentage of loans held for investment mortgages of $549.000 and farm mortgages of $1,247,000. It sells no or even of annual turnover can be determined, but we urge every bank mortgages, but holds mortgage loans for 45% of As time deposits. City which receives savings funds to make a survey of its community to ascertain mortgages are made direct for not over 50% of the value without com- whether its savings depositors are properly provided witn mortgage loans mission, on 6 months' amortization period and to savings depositors only. on a conservative and therefore low rate basis. If not, we believe that it "This plan of loaning has woven very popular, and the loans are rapidly is incumbent upon such savings banks to meet the situation both by investpaid off. This accounts for the small total amount of these loans on hand. ments of their own funds and by exerting both institutional and personal All farm mortgage loans are purchased from trust companies and mortgage influence upon the investment of endowment or other trust funds, the concerns, which make them direct, or perhaps from country banks. encouragement of co-operative societies and even direct distribution to "State banks in this section generally make farm and city real estate private investors. loans. To get the information that you are seeking. I think tnat it would In connection with this last remark we urge a strict maintenance of be necessary for you to write to every State bank. That there is propa- bank standards in the determination of credit and the value of security, and claiming that banks are not a material factor in the real estate therefore caution against any tendency to overloan on the theory that ganda on, mortgage market,sounds extremely ridiculous to me, at least as far as State amortization payments will soon eliminate the excess. • banks are concerned. It is true that the national banks are restricted in the Respectfully submitted. making of these loans. As national banks now generally maintain savings JOHN J. PULLEYN, Chairman, P. J. SLACH, national banking law should be so amended II. T. BLACKBURN, departments, I think that the J. M. WILLCOX, that national banks be permitted to invest at least 50% of their savings W. B. BLACKWELL. E. A. BROWN, or time deposits in real estate loans. To do this would materially help S. FRED STRONG. the situation." A State bank in Milwaukee holds $73,000 in mortgages representing settlements of other debts only, but sold through bond department over Report of Committee on Liquid Investments. $500,000 of real estate mortgage bonds other than bonds of Federal Land During the past year, while general business has been resting on its Banks and Joint Stock Land Banks. A national bank in Georgia owns no real estate mortgages and handies oars and has only in the past few months shown indications of return to none, but Indirectly has a turnover of $100,000 in mortgage loans and con- normal conditions, there has been no active demand for legislation looking siders it a safe estimate that each bank in Georgia handles indirectly in towards an increased field for short-term investments by savings banks. This cnange if attitude is caused largely by the huge issue of Governrenewals and new loans a turnover through the efforts and influence of ment obligations, whim were literally purchased by nearly every savings their officers of at least $50,000. institution in the nation. The very fact of this large holding of the most A national bank in Kansas with capital and surplus of $2,000,000 reported $136,000 in mortgage loans but says:."Up to this time we have not widely and readily marketable security in the world relieves for the present bought or sold any real estate loans, but we are now opening a department the condition whica calmed into being this Committee on Liquid Securities for making real estate loans and expect to do a considerable business in In 1917. At that time conditions were such that savings banks had but small this line." could legally invest A State bank in Ohio owns $42.000 in mortgage loans and during the range of choice among the securities in which they such being the recogpreceding year sold $39,000 of:cans made in the usual course of business. when they wanted to purchase early maturities: and, It writes: "I am sure that it is the practice of most banks located in rural nized facts, E. W. Kemmerer, Professor of Economics and Finance at communities to take mortgages and dispose of them to their own custome..s Princeton University, was asked to address the Savings Bank Division on or others, and because of tnis practice the amount of mortgage loans at this subject at the annual A. B. A. convention in Chicago in October, 1918. The address he there 'delivered so clearly showed the need for shortany time reported by banks does not in any true sense indicate the amount • SAVINGS BANK DIVISION. urged a vigorous term investments that the Committee on Liquid Securities legal for savings campaign during the ensuing year looking toward making resulted in acceptances banks the purchase of bankers' acceptances, which being made legal in nearly every State in the Union. study of railroad The next year the Committee made an exhaustive notes issued by equipment notes and definitely recommended the equipment made legal and endeavored the National Railway Service Corporation be to.that effect; but, owing to the lack of understanding to have laws enacted the Committee was by•the general public of just what these notes were, successful in having them made legal for savings banks only in the States of Wisconsin, Minnesota and WashingMaine, New Hampshire, Connecticut, ton. The notes proved to be an especially advantageous purchase for savings banks located in the States where they were made legal and the only reason why the matter has not been vigorously pushed this year is because the volume of the notes in the market at the present time is not sufficiently large to induce the passing of general legislation along this line. The equipment notes are not only exceptionally secured, but yield an attractive return, and it is to be hoped that the railroad situation will be so adjusted that the National Service Corporation will soon again actively function, with probably added powers granted by Congressional Act. In which event our Division will be warranted in urging legislation during the coming winter when the legislatures of nearly all tin States will be in sessian to greatly widen the territory in which these highly attractive notes will be legal for savings banks to purchase and hold. In view of the facts set forth in the early paragraphs of this report, it seems unnecessary to maintain two committees covering the investment field. The Committee on Investments should, of course, be continued, but In our best judgment the Committee on Liquid Securities should cease to funztion with the close of the current fiscal year. Respectfully submitted, SAMUEL H. BEACH, Chairman. LOUIS BETZ, J. HOWARD 130GARDUS. Report of the Committee on Resolutions, by Alvin P. Howard. 1. "Resolved. That the Savings Bank Division of the American Bankers Association tenders to the United States Government its full co-operation in the redemption and refunding operations incident to the War Savings certificates maturing Jan. 1 1923. Also, be it 2. "Resolved, That a policy of giving priority to investment of savings deposits in real estate mortgage loans for homes, preferably on an amortisation plan, be recommended. 3. "Resolved, That the promotion and extension of school and industrial savings by banks be endorsed and in the operation of such plans the principles recommended by the Executive Committee of this Division for official A. B. A. school and industrial savings systems be approved. 183 4. "Resolved, That the public should be warned for investment purposes against any class of contract involving the principles of lottery and in particular against that form of real estate mortgage contract issued by what are popularly known in many States as 'three and four per cent contract loan companies.' 5. "Resolved, That we disapprove of any legislation looking to actual or pretended guaranty of bank deposits because it violates the sound and economic principle that the competent and good shall not be taxed to pay for the inefficient and bad. Finally, be it 6. "Resolved, That we express our appreciation of the ability and earnestness displayed by President Raymond R. Frazier of Seattle and his associates in the retiring administration, and all who contributed in any way to the pleasure and profit of those attending this our twenty-first annual meeting." Chairman Knox (Mr. Frazier had turned over the Chair to Mr. Knox): You have heard the report of the Committee on Resolutions, what is your pleasure? Upon motion duly made and seconded, it was voted to adopt the resoutions as read. Report of the Committee on Nominations, by Mr. Sadd. Your Committee on Nominations bee to report the following list of officers for the year 1922-1923: PRESIDENT. Samuel H. Beach, Presicknt Rome Savings Bank. Rome, N. Y. VICE-PRESIDENT. Chas. H. Donee. Vice-Pres. Union Savings Bank & 'Cruet Co.. Cincinnati. Ohio. MEMBERS OF EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE FOR TERM EXPIRING 1925. Thomas F. Wallace, Treasurer Mechanics & Farmers Savings Bank Minneapolis, Minn. John S. Broeksmit, T vasurer Harris Trust & Savings Bank,Chicago, Id. W. R. Morehouse. Vice-President Security T:ust & Savings Bank, Los Angeles, Calif. MEMBER OF EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE FOR TERM EXPIRING 1923 TO FILL VACANCY. John It. Dexter, President Society for Savings, Cleveland. Ohio. Respectfully Submitted, W. A. SADD, Chairman. JOS. R. NOEL. S. FRED STRONG. GEO. E. BROOK. Chairman Knox: Tbe Secratary has cast one ballot and I have the pleasure of announcing that these gentlemen are unanimously elected officers for the Division for the coming year and for the various terms in the case of the members of the Executive. TRUST COMPANY DIVISION AMERICAN BANKERS' ASSOCIATION Twenty-seventh Annual Meeting, Held in New York City, October 2, 3 and 5, 1922. INDEX TO TRUST COMPANY PROCEEDINGS Keeping Fqith with Europe, Alvin W. Krech Page 184 Turkey and the Near East, Henry Morgenthau 186 The Growing Hazards and Liabilities of Conducting a Safe Deposit Business, Waldron H.Rand, Jr 187 Telling the Story of the Trust Companies to the Nations, Francis H. Sisson 189 Annual Address of President J. Arthur House 191 Report of Vice-President Theodore G. Smith 192 Resolution Against Removal of Association's HeadquartersPage 192 Report of Committee on Co-operation with Bar 192 Report of Committee on Protective Laws 192 Report of Committee on Community Trusts 193 Report of Committee on Staff Relations 193 Report of Committee on Legislation 193 Election and Installation of Officers 193 Suggestion for a Committee to Provide Scale of Prices... 194 Keeping Faith with Europe By ALvIN W. KRECH, President, The Equitable Trust Company of New lurk. A great many people think that the European situation does not touch us. Certainly business by and large is good— better perhaps than at any time since the armistice. The proof of the pudding is in the eating. Present conditions speak louder than words. Our exports, though showing diminution, are still substantial. There is a plethora of gold and a plethora of agricultural products, and while wages are high compared with international standards, there is also a corresponding increase in our consuming power. Why should we worry? This seems to be the viewpoint of the average superficial observer as he points to the empty kerosene cans bearing the American trade-mark strewn over the landscape of Central Thibet, or shows how Paris and Calcutta alike have a preference for the Los Angeles film, and boasts that the sun never sets upon the motor cars turned out in Detroit, not to speak of our surplus cotton and copper and food supplies which Europe cqntinues to take with avidity. I am aware that some of us have publicly expressed the view that our export factor plays so small a part in the nation's business as a whole that even a violent disruption of our export business would not affect the nation's prosperity. A very sweeping and assertive statement, which everything in our national economy disproves. In the year 1913 the world was at peace, and international trade was conducted under normal and peaceful conditions. During that year the value of our exports footed up approximately 21 billions of dollars, of which two-thirds was taken h by Europe. These exports included 66% of our cotton crop, 10% of our wheat and 8% of our meat products. Such was our trade with a solvent Europe—with a prosperous, thrifty and industrious Europe. The Europe of to-day is pathetically poor! I need not paint the picture. Potatoes and turnips took the place of American grain in practically the whole of Central Europe during the war, and, alas! it is to be feared that in certain countries potatoes and turnips may again become the fare of the masses. Mr. Cravath, one of our intelligent international observers, recently wrote as follows: It will readily be seen what a serious displacement of agricultural effort Even though in the end the world would again be prosperous, the loss to the United States would have been irreparable because other nations would have found means of getting on without, or themselves producing many of the commodities they have been in the habit of buying from the United States. The question uppermost in my mind is, how long is impoverished Europe going to continue to take our goods, keeping in mind besides that our impoverished foreign customers will practically be forbidden the approach of the American market by the erection of our tariff wall. For the first seven months of this year, preceding the erection of our latest tariff wall, our excess export balance had already shrunk from 1,361 millions of the previous year, to 455 millions, or approximately 35%, the high of our excess exports balance being 2,671 millions in the year 1919. There is nothing more fatal for any country than to have on its hands an unexportable surplus—whether that surplus consists of commodities or credits, some of our friends to the contrary notwithstanding. Surely, on purely practical and selfish grounds, we are vitally interested in the restoration of European solvency, and in the maintenance of her capacity to take from our abundance. It is our plain duty to accelerate the process of her rehabilitation. The two great rocks which bar the road—reparations and inter-Allied debts—have been made the 'Lain theme of this Convention. Respecting reparations, Mr. McKenna in his very able and scholarly analysis yesterday, made two practical suggestions: 1st: That the immediate reparations demand be limited to what Germany's present foreign investments and balances may produce. 2nd: That she be given a breathing space for a few years, and thereafter pay whatever her exportable balance may produce. But this whole question of reparations touches us but remotely, and only to the extent th.it it is the fundamental element in the stabilization of the European Continent. The United States asked for no reparation and has gotten what she asked for. We have declined official representation would follow any permanent, radical reduction in our exports of agricultural upon the Commission. Signor Nitti has called the whole products. The shock from this displacement would not be confined to the portion of our population engaged in agriculture. The diminution of the buy- story of reparations "un enorme equivoco"—an enormous ing power of the agricultural population would automatically reduce pro- comedy of errors. duction in many other departments of industry. The agricultural popuBut the denouement seems to be in sight, since M. Poincare lation, rendered idle by the reduction in production ir. the agricultural field, would seek employment in other activities, causing unemployment and reduc- has for the moment abandoned his bellicose attitude and has tion in wages. A readjustment would doubtless be accomplished after a suffi- accepted the latest srecommendation of the Reparations Comcient number of years. but no one can measure the loss, distress, suffering and the lowering in the standards of living that would result in the meantime. mission. TRUST ,.303,1PANY DIVISION. 185 years have elapsed the question of the cancellation should be taken up again. I believe that these ten years of an absolute suspension of the effects of the debt would create an atmosphere of judicious aloofness. We should then be in a much better position and also in a much better mood to approach so vast a proposition. "After all, it will be granted that in 1931 things may look quite different from what they are now. Our debtors are hardy people, who have weathered more than one storm, and ten years should witness great changes for the better in their affairs. But the point is not so much to wait ten years in the hope that our Allies may be in a position to pay easily their debt; my proposition is not a veiled moratorium. I conceived it in the hope that, ten years hence, conditions both in this country and abroad will have prepared a better terrain for the discussion of the problem." The terrain for the discussion of the problem was at the time so little propitious, indeed, that, instead of the beau geste advocated by Professor Seligman and so many of our best minds both in academic and financial ditties, the Bill amortization. Series"B" bonds with a like rate of interest and for the refunding of the Allied War Debts was signed by 38 billions President Harding on Feb.9 1922. amortization. Quite naturally, the people and the press in Europe were 82 billions Series "C" bonds. What bearing has the proposed cancellation of inter-Allied far from pleased at the action taken by the United States Congress. Eight months have passed since the signing of the indebtedness upon the reparations question? The funding negotiations with Great Britain will take, bill, and it will be admitted now that the bill is anything place, probably, in November. However willing or able but a summons to pay. The bill merely creates a World War Great Britain may be to meet her obligation, we may well Foreign Debt Commission, which is authorized to refund the find it inexpedient to accept her payment in strict accord- debts of the former Allied and Associated Governments. But. ance with the terms of the funding bill. Experinece has as has been pointed out in our discussion, the Commission's demonstrated that the actual liquidation of so huge an in- power is very strictly limited by the proviso that the time of ternational debt is far removed from an unmixed blessing maturity of these debts cannot be extended beyond June 15 to the creditor nation. But as to her ability to pay there is 1947, at an annual interest rate of not less than 4%%. Fino doubt. Breat Britain can pay, and, what is better, wants nally, the Commission's authoritcy to refund the debt is to to pay. "The British Empire," the "Morning Post" wrote cease at the end of three years from the date of the passage lately, "is built upon pride. Take away the Britishers' pride of the bill. In other words, the bill means that a commission of five should start negotiations with our debtors, but and they are nothing." Speaking of the British indebtedness to the United States, its power to refund the Allied war debts is made dependent Mr. McKenna tells us that Great Britain is prepared to honor upon ,the proviso of a 25 years' maturity. Because of the very strictness of this limitation the commission is pracher bond in full. Gentlemen, British pride and British honor have always tically precluded from refunding the war debts, and all it seems to be able to do is to discuss with the .representatives been the finest collateral in the world. of the foreign treasuries the possibilities of eventual payAs to France and Italy, does anyone really believe that our ments. The Commission is told to try to refund the war forgiving of their debts would in any way help the Allies to debts, but only on condition that the maturity be not excollect from Germany? Since France and Italy are perfectly tended beyond the 25 years. If the Commission is unable to safe in leaving out of their calculations, for the moment at obtain from the debtor acceptance of the maturity stipulaleast, the amounts they owe to America, what immediate tion, all it can do is to report its failure. The bill, and this good could a cancellation of the debt bring about? In my is the parting shot, graciously grants three years to the Comopinion cancellation of the debts would not in the least af- mission to try and do its best. The bill, I repeat it, is not,a categorical summons to pay; fect the present aspect of the reparations problem. "Oh, yes!" I hear you say, "cancellation, or, at least, a part can- It is an invitation to talk matters over. It undoubtedly serves cellation of the debts, would probably be immediately an- notice to the Allied world that our people are not in favor swered by a cancellation of a corresponding amount of 'C' of a cancellation. It does not at all warrant the criticism bonds." Very good! But the "C" bonds are but a mirage on that America is an implacable, merciless creditor. The soluthe distant horizon, and when all has been said and done the tion I suggested in Pittsburgh would have this advantage reparations payments in the latest form are not even suffi- over the Funding bill in that it takes the question out of the cient to touch the fringes of,the "B" bonds. Nevertheless, I realm of politics for a definite period. In the meantime, the important thing for us is to know do not want you to take this as an argument against cancellation; I merely want to point out that the Reparations Com- how to shape our own financial and economic policies with mission, whose duty it is to collect from Germany, would not an eye upon the European situation. We have not ratified find its difficult task lightened by even so drastic a measure the Versailles Treaty, we are not in the League, we are not on the Reparations Commission, but our abstention from the as the cancellation of the inter-Allied debts. About a year ago I had the honor of discussing this subject councils of the world does not preclude us from living in the before the American Economic Society, and I have since midst of a world of which, whether we like it or not, we are seen no reason to change my views. I said then: "the mo- a very powerful, but still a dependent, part. Our failure to ment is ill-chosen to bring the question of the cancellation occupy a seat at the conference table in Genoa has certainly of the debt in so uncompromising a manner before our peo- not lowered an asbestos curtain, financially or economically ple. Economically speaking, we are at present a very much speaking, between Europe and us. Our State Department harassed people. The burden of the taxes, the difficulties turns out polite notes declining invitations to attend interand hardships brought upon us by deflation, make it very national gatherings,. but in the meantime our people subhard for the people at large to examine so important a ques- scribe to foreign loans, buy foreign exchange, or sell locotion in the right spirit. Therefore, I propose that we should motives to countries whose credit rating is not even always take a leaf out of Secretary Hughes's book and declare a very reassuring. On the other hand, you will have noticed, for instance, that holiday of ten years for our Continental allies, during which. as non-existent. After ten our people have become less enthusiastic in taking up foreign the debt would be considered No one can find fault with Mr. MeKenna's clear and logical conclusions—truth—facts—expediency—all these point the way. But the inevitable denouement falls with a heavy hand upon France. France has spent up to now 90 billions of francs on the rehabilitation of her devastated regions, and the deficit of her general budget amounts to upwards of four billion francs. The French people have an admirable way of answering the call of their Minister of Finance, and the new loan which is shortly to be issued will find the same response as its predecessors. But even French thrift has its limitations, and besides, the floating of loans does not go without its economic and financial dangers. Leaving aside what Germany has already paid in kind and in cash, the reparation obligation has taken the following form: Total—one hundred and thirty-two billion gold marks, divided as follows: 12 billions Series "A" bonds with 5% interest and 1% 186 BANKERS' CONVENTION. loans which certainly goes to prove that we are following as closely as possible affairs in Europe, and that our financial seismographs record even the slightest tranatlantic tremors. Much gratuitous advice has been given to poor Europe. Europe is told to balance her budgets, to reinstate the gold standard, or failing this, to stabilize her currencies; to levy higher taxes—in a word, to behave according to the rigid precepts of a conservative political economy. Good, sound. old-fashioned economics, but they are the preaching of categorical imperatives about as impossible to comply with as the friendly advice to a man falling off the Woolworth Building, to whom one would say, "Go slow, my friend; better take your descent in easy stages; or, better still, go back to your starting place and don't fall." History, after all, like the experience of the individual, is the very best teacher. After our Civil War the recovery of the Southern States, with their currency wiped out, their obligations repudiated, would have been delayed for generations had they not been a part of the greatest interstate free trade area in the world. Free interchange of goods, commodities and service unhampered by artificial barriers was immediately resumed. I believe-and hope that Europe will sooner or later profit by this experience in our history. It is high time, now that self-determination has been at least measureably accomplished—though not in all cases with full justice—that the snarling and bickernigs and quarrels of Europe should cease and be replaced by sound principles, mutual understanding and mutual co-operation. It is high time that Europe should cease her criticism of the aloofness of the United States, and that the various nations get together for their mutual interests. The British review, "The Round Table," observes that many Americans had felt acutely that the United States should take a hand in the work of reconstruction, but that these Americans had also felt that the greatest necessity of all was that the nations of Europe should begin to show some kind. of European community. This is well said. America is very little inclined to play a part in the European concert, and when she receives the flattering invitation of assuming leadership she must refuse to accept the baton of a guest conductor. But America will not withhold her co-operation from a Europe which shows some sense of European community. England, a creditor nation for more than a century, maintained her financial supremacy, not by collecting and spending, but by collecting and re-investing what she collected. The statistics of the growth of her foreign investments show that her foreign holdings have been steadily built up by the accumulation of interest. America, a young creditor nation, with enormous sums of money flowing back to her in the form of interest and sinking fund payments, will necessarily be on the lookoutfor safe and profitable re-investment opportunity. The problem of finding markets for her exportable surplus of goods will be paralleled by a not less vital one, the finding of employment for her exportable surplus of credit. Not in the form of gigantic international loans—I must confess that my imagination stalls when they are under discussion—but the future holds for the American investor countless attractive opportunities which. as time goes on, he cannot afford to neglect, if once Europe gets together on safe, sane and practical lines. That such a movement is going on on the Continent is without question. There are innumerable instances where these silent forces— constructive, friendly, co-operative—are actively at work. A loan to Austria guaranteed by her former enemies; German Treasury notes assumed by British and Dutch banks; a French group and a German group coming together in an effort to effectuate on a practical basis the reparations in kind; the Soviet Government recognizing the vested rights of a British corporation; Austrian banks re-establishing their branches in the succession States; are facts which show that Europe is fast coming back to her senses. These are not quixotic or fantastic suggestions. Europe is putting herself in line with them. Keep faith with Europe? Surely there is no other way out either for Europe or ourselves. From the ethical point of view, our duty to stand by Europe attains the heights of a moral law. which we cannot possibly escape. I think that it was Plato who said that the man who could live alone was either a god or a beast, and this is as true of nations as it is of men. From the cultural point of view, America'refuses to turn her back on the nations which have shared with her their art and their learning. America's soul, so full still of the poetry, the songs, the legends of the old countries, can never give up her yearning for the European shores. America must keep, will keep faith with Europe. but Europe must do her part and keep faith with herself. Turkey and the Near East Hy HENRY MORGENTHAU, Former U. S. Ambassador to Turk ey. Mr. Chairman, Ladies and Gentlemen: When I was asked :this morning to come here and say a few words, I could not refuse because once upon a time I also was president of a trust company, so I had a very companionable feeling. I had a few minutes with Mr. House (the President of the 'Trust Company Division) and he thought yoti would be very much interested in knowing something about the Near East. I listened with as much, and 'perhaps even more, interest than some of you—to the very splendid address of Mr. Krech, and I agree with Practically all he said, but he left a lot of things unsaid. He did not take into consideration sufficiently the political and the human aspects that these foreign countries are confronted with, and I am going to confine my remarks to one of the most serious things, and that is this festering boil in the Balkans, Turkey, which does not seem to be curable, which will some day have to be destroyed before you can have complete peace in the Balkans. Turkey, under the rule of Abdul Hamid, was for 30 years .continually exploiting all her people. They were living—the Turks—as parasites on the other peoples that lived in their country. When this Young Turk Party was organized, after they came into power, they discovered in a very short time -that these centuries of misrule of the Turks had so completely exhausted the Turkish people, had deprived them of all sense of freedom or desire for self-government, even, that they made up their minds that the only way in which they could continue their power was to be Abdul Hamids themselves, so that instead of one there were certainly 30 or 35, because there was an Executive Committee of the Union and Progress Party, which really was then, and is now, the invisible government of Turkey. This committee can be best compared to the leaders of an organization like Tammany Hall. These men were determined, at all hazards, to retain power as long as possible, and when this war broke out, the Great War, they were the ones that determined to throw their lot with the Germans, and they were the ones who ordered the massacres of the Armenians and started this pillaging which has been going on ever since. Now, when peace was made—I don't propose to spend much time on what took place during the war—the conference in Paris determined to cut up Austria—and they did. They cut it up so completely that they took off both her arms, both her legs and as much of the trunk as they could without reaching the heart. They left something that could not function or operate, and we see what has been the result. Austria had to submit because they were right in the centre of Europe and the people around them were ready to organize these countries and take advantage of it. Germany, as you all know, was so charged with an amount of reparation, that to-day she is like a crushed gladiator on whose head the victor is sitting and is telling him, "Get up TRUST COMPANY DIVISION. and earn something to pay me for the damage you did to me before I put you on the ground." I have no sympathy, as such, with the Germans as a nation, but I believe that it is an utter impossibility for them to rise and live as long as the Army of Occupation is there and this reparation hangs over them. I do not think that a mere suspension of ten years' time will help the situation. We men as trust company men know that if we hove a bad debtor and we are strong enough and can be honest to our stockholders and to our depositors and to ourselves, and we feel we collect any of it, or only a small portion of it, we won't carry it as an asset on our books —we will cancel it or reduce it. Now, my friends, I have been in Germany; I had the extreme pleasure or privilege of visiting Krupp's factory. I saw those people at work and I talked with the managers, and I received a thorough explanation of how they converted their factory, this great big factory, the biggest group I had ever seen, where they used to make armor plates, how they converted that in four months into a locomotive factory and were turning out one locomotive a day. I visited the other place, where they made the turrets for the submarines, and I saw them making these great big pipes for th^ nitrate plants of Germany. I asked them how long it would take to reconvert Krupp's establishment for war purposes. They told me not quite as long as it took them to construct it or change it for civil purposes. But I found that Germany was in that position that it is utterly impossible for them, with their marks depreciated as they are, to continue to do business much longer. I am afraid I am wandering away from what I originally wanted to say. What I want to tell you is this: The third country, Bulgaria, was cut off from the Mediterranean, her ports were taken away, and Bulgaria is to-day just watching and waiting for an opportunity to get back her chance to have a seaport Then, when it came to Turkey, what did they do? These people divided Turkey among themselves: Great Britain, France, Italy and Greece. They did not know the psychology of the Turks and did not know how the Turk was living and on how little he could live and in what a desperate economic state he was. All these other peoples had commerce and industry to protect and preserve. The Turk had nothing of the kind. The Turk, when he found out that these other countries were following up what had been going on for 10 years, or more, and how he had lost Govinia and Bosnia and Bulgaria and Greece and Rumania, and that now he was to lose a number of other territories and sections of land, he simply (this committee of thirty-odd) retired to home in Constantinople and considered what to do. The world didn't consider that it was of much importance, but these men concluded that although the British and French had the Sultan in Constanti- 187 nople, that he was ready to approve of the treaty, that they would start a revolution and rebel, they would not assent to this treaty, they would resort again to what they had done repeatedly—a system of anarchy, and set up their own Government in Angora—which they did. As you probably know, the Turk defeated the attempts of France to secure a firm hold in Turkey. France made the Treaty of Angora and agreed in that treaty that she would not fight the Turk. Italy also made a treaty in which she agreed to turn over her munitions which she had in Turkey, and not to fight against the Turks. Greece, that was making this great fight, encouraged by the other Powers at the beginning, had to fight on and was defeated, not because the Greek army was weak, but because King Constantine took control of the Government and replaced a very able General by one whom I am reliably informed, though I have not the absolute evidence, was an inmate of a lunatic asylum for two and a half years. This man immediately removed all the good Generals and officers that Venizelos had put there and furthermore told them that within a month they would be back in Athens with their wives and sweethearts. They returned to Athens, but not in the way the General thought ' they would. Now. the Turks pursued these men. There is no question that the Greeks in their retreat did some damage to the Turkish villages and did murder some Turks, but nothing that occurred could justify the cold-blooded murder and destruction that took place at Smyrna. Now, my friends, gory with blood, full of loot, this Turk reached 15 miles away from the Dardanelles, the neutral zone. Nothing was there to stop him from running amuck. following the Greeks right into Europe, right through Thrace, and then, except the British navy and the British General, Harington, and none of us know except those who were behind the scenes, what a grand piece of work Great Britain did again. Great Britain saved the civilization of the world within the last two weeks. I just want to conclude as rapidly as possible. If the Turks had been permitted to enter Thrace at that time, and not peacefully, as they may be permitted in a few weeks, but as a war-like nation and with the determination to crush the Greeks, the Bulgarians would have risen, they would have had a revolution, and it seems to me that the Germans would have taken courage and would have said,"If Kemal with his few untutored soldiers can make a stand against the united Allies, why can't we do it?" Now, my friends, I would close with this remark: Great Britain to-day is standing a tremendous strain to protect the preservation of present-day things, which we call civilization. She is under a terrific strain, and you men who are moneyed men and represent money, let us forget that for a moment, let us realize that you are the guardians of civilization, as well as Great Britain, and that we have to stand back of it and do our share. The Growing Hazards and Liabilities of Conducting a Safe Deposit Business By WArAntoisr H. RAND, Jr.. Vice-President, Commonwealth T rust Company of Boston. I have been asked to talk for 20 minutes on the "Growing Hazards and Liabilities of Conducting a Safe Deposit Business." To one who like myself has lived for the past 20 years almost continuously in the midst of these hazards and liabilities, and who has seen these same hazards and liabilities broaden here and diminish there as the business of safe deposit grew and expanded from its original modest beginnings, 20 minutes seem indeed a short time in which to deal with such a subject. There has been a steady increase in the hazards and liaof this has been bilities of the safe deposit business. Much The safe deposit business is one of about 50 unavoidable. expanded tremendously. years growth,and in that time it has Back in the old days, the first thought was to use every precaution to make the vault strong and secure against forcible entrance, and the vaults that were then built were built regardless of expense. They stand, some of them at the present time, a monument to the integrity and courage of their builders and also a standard of vault construction that it would have been wise if the present day had more religiously followed. As the public gained confidence in the safe deposit companies and began to realize the increased safety to their possessions, their valuables, their securities, in depositing same In a properly built, organized and maintained safe deposit vault, as the business grew, there came forward, as there comes forward in all business, the competitive feature. I 188 BANKERS' CONVENTION. think it is to this spirit of competition—which induced many not, it is perfectly obvious that there is existing in those lobanks to open safe deposit departments without sufficient calities where such standards are not being maintained a investigation as to the cost of construction and the overhead constant condition of risk and hazard—not only to the bank expenses of maintenance—that we owe much of our present that is failing in this duty to its customers, but to all bankday trouble and worry. This factor, and also the great in- ing interests of the locality. crease in the number of persons owning securities of a nature First, as to the standard of safe and vault construction. negotiable by delivery, such as Liberty bonds, has brought can we state what this standard is in general terms? I the question more and more acutely to the front. hardly think so. It would be easy enough to state what conSteadily, as the safe deposit business has grown, the vaults stitutes proper vault construction in any specified case, but have become more and more subject to attack, both during the problems of vault construction vary so greatly with the closed hours and during the open or business hours. This locality in which the bank is engaged in business that no has made it particularly necessary at the present time for all one general rule can be followed. A bank, for example, lobankers who have to do with the safe deposit business to stop cated in the midst of the big city has far different problems and to take stock of the equipment they are doing the busi- of construction from a bank located in a small suburban town ness with and the grade of service and protection they are or country village. Yet it must be constantly borne in mind offering their customers. that each one of these problems is definite and ascertainable. It is the most important matter for present discussion. I and each problem is of prime importance not alone to the do not believe that the majority of the bankers of this coun- suburban or city bank involved, but in fact to the entire try begin to realize the hazards, the risks and responsibili- banking community. If a bank from motives of false econties entailed in the conduct of a safe deposit vault. Perhaps omy, through a desire to save a few dollars, constructs a safe the best way will be to spend the time allotted us in first con- deposit vault for customers that is not of sufficient strength sidering roughly what the hazards and liabilities are—what and this fact becomes known to the public through some loss. the risks and responsibilities—and then in discussing briefly the effect is similar to the throwing of a stone in the middle the methods of reducing or minimizing these. of a calm pool of water. The ripples of distrust spread All these risks and responsibilities base in ,the duty of safe steadily and in ever increasing circles from the point of disdeposit vaults to their box holders to furnish the highest turbance until the whole banking pool suffers somewhat from grade of protection. If we consider briefly what this duty the commotion thus aroused. It is of mutual interest to all is we will gain a practical viewpoint from which to define bankers that a correct standard of construction prevail in these responsibilities. The hazard is always grounded in a the safe deposit business. claim of loss by a customer. These claims fall under three Turning to the second division of the safe deposit busiheadings—the claim arising in an actual loss, the claim aris- ness, namely maintenance (the duty of maintaining a proper ing in an honestly believed loss but where in fact there is no standard of service) we find that here also there is far too loss attributable to the safe depost company, and the claim apt to be a failure to maintain such standard. Correct idenarising in a plain frame-up, a blackmail attempt to bluff a tification of customers—the constant watching of customers bank into some settlement to avoid the threatened publicity. while in the vault and on the premises—proper restrictions The defense against each class of claim is the same. It is, in as to the place of examining contents of safe deposit boxes— brief, an anticipatory defense, that is, a defense centred in the leaving of keys by the customers in the lock—the proper the maintenance of the highest standard of vault construc- care and custody of the keys of unoccupied boxes and the tion and of service—Construction and Maintenance the cause proper method of delivery of same to new customers when of practically all the risks and hazards of the safe deposit the safe Is rented—the keeping of proper written records of business and at the same time where properly standardized, ownership and access—the installation and niaintenance of the main line of defense against any claim of loss by a cus- suitable burglar alarm systems—above all, the choice and tomer. Just what is this required grade or standard of con- training of an efficient personnel of vault attendants—all struction and maintenance? these are details of management that will certainly be exEveryone, I assume, understands that a bank is not an in- haustively inquired into in the event of a claim of loss by a surer or guarantor of the safety of the contents of its safe customer. deposit vault. The safe deposit law of the diffe-ent States To sum up, proper Construction and Maintenance are both as to the duty of safe deposit vaults to their customers is not vitally necessary in the conduct of a safe deposit business. the same by any means; but it may fairly be said that the As yet they have not been standardized as they should be. prevailing law of the United States as to the legal duty of a The cause in many cases is ignorance. Where this ignorance bank engaged in the business of renting safe deposit boxes is is of the proper type of construction and of maintenance it is that such bank is required to use that degree of care in the Inexcusable, for in recent years the growth of the safe desafe keeping of the property deposited therein which is de- posit associations through our States has been such that no manded from a bailee for hire in the keeping of valuable banker need, nor will, be excused from having a knowledge property. The highest standard of care is required of such of how a vault should be constructed and how it should be bailee. In a certain Federal case dealing with this subject run. The ignorance lies to a degree in the blind disregard of the court said: "Persons . . . depositing valuable arti- the liabilities—of the risks—which a bank runs in conductcles with them (safe deposit vaults) expect that such meas- ing a safe deposit department merely as a convenience for ures will be taken as will . . . secure the property from depositors, furnished, without prior investigation as to costs burglars outside and from thieves within . . . and also of construction and maintenance and along lines of false that they will employ fit men, both in ability and integrity, economy. Yet this cause of ignorance ought not at the presfor the discharge of their duties. . . . An omission of ent time to exist, either. We have had instances within resuch measures would in most cases be deemed culpable negli- cent years of the fatal blow that a legal attack upon a safe gence so gross as to amount to a breach of good faith, and deposit vault carries against both vault and parent bank. Such an attack is in all such cases sure to be a deadly one constitute a fraud upon the depositor." So you see that a bank conducting a safe deposit depart- and fatal to the continued existence of the bank itself unless ment is legally liable for loss sustained by a customer aris- the evidence discloses a proper vault construction and a proper system of management by a force of properly paid ing out of any failure on the part of the bank 1. To use the highest standard of safe and vault construc- and properly trained officers and employees. You. cannot avoid such a threat by incorporating your tion. This, of course, includes the type of keys, locks, burglar vault as an independent corporation. This step has, to be alarms, and the like. 2. To maintain the highest standard of service and of pro- sure, certain advantages; (for example, In liquidation and tective efficiency in the conduct of the business both during where stockholders are assessable under State or Federal law) but the force of the blow is against the public credit, closed hours and open hours. Is this standard of safe and vault construction and of the reputation, and the standing, of the bank more even than maintenance being maintained throughout the country? If against the dollars and cents of its assets. TRUST COMPANY DIVISION. 189 adequate receipts by at the porting; that is, the failure to provide Nor can a banker, as some are attempting to do their boxes. There bank charging customers a sufficient rental for present time, protect himself, his stockholders and his this question, to charge off the expenses is written is a tendency to beg by insurance. In the first place, no insurance that unnecessary. of the vaults to advertising. This is not only most probable sources of liability, and in the seccovers the in its effect on the morale and the be paid until but it is very serious ond place, insurance will in all probability not ents. Moreover, be standard of maintenance in such departm y is established, and legal liability can only legal liabilit that it is unnecessary. No one is goble accom- the sad fact about it is established by court proceedings, with the inevita rental when of ing to look for a cheap bargain in safe deposit ure of the type of construction, the grade panying disclos safe custody of his or her entire of the the matter involved is the service—in fact, all the important items and details deposit box worldly wealth and savings. The hiring of a safe and equipment. vault management the economic law of barter and situ- is a striking exception to No, the only way of minimizing this risk is to face the g but trade. No one of average intelligence wants anythin to have your safe deposit vault of proper ation squarely, price—within reasonable limits—besafe- the very best, and the construction and surrounded by all approved modern time practically immaterial. This has been illustrated the business of safe deposit with an comes guards, and to conduct last two or three years where ed by and time again within the efficieat and trained personnel in a manner approv safe have deliberately raised the price of their associations. Too many banks have banks present-day safe deposit the loss of customers bedeposit boxes. In each case grown into the custom of conducting a safe deposit departof such advance in price has turned out to be practo their business, installed for its cause ment merely as an adjunct ly, as tically nil. supposed advertising value, and upon which, natural ions. The safe deposit business has grown to large proport as possible. This has been the little money is to be spent as so many other dein The only way is to standardize it just history in several cases of recent legal proceedings, and banking are now standardized. The proper exceedingly humiliating and costly partments of each case it has been an tion should be ostly committee of the American Bankers Associa history as retailed to the public by way of the press—c gate and report facts necessary for a g instructed to investi not only to the bank involved, but also to the entire bankin maintenance. standardization of construction, equipment and community. And repeating myself, I wish again to emphaa committee would furnish the banking mely The report of such size the fact that this latter phase is a very real one—na departments pres- world with a standard to which all safe deposit the loss to the general banking in credit, standing and were done, failure on the part of a remiss could be held. If this tige, when any one bank is publicly exposed as being exceptional bank to observe such standard would soon be so In its duty to its customers. non-existent. The public would be to become practically One great error in the establishment and maintenance of as the better probetter served, the banks and trust companies safe deposit departments, and one which has been the cause branch of banking business guided tected and an important of unsatisfactory conditions of maintenance and equipment. safe and prospering channels. Is the failure to make the safe deposit department self-sup- into Telling the Story of the Trust Companies to the Nations By FRANCIS H. SissoN, Vice-President. Guaranty Trust Com patty of New York. You will see on the boards at my left the real exhibit and the real report which this committee has to present, and so far as the phrasing of English permits, the bulletins upon all those boards and the advertisements which you have their seen, tell the story of the trust companies and spread message of service to the best advantage that this commit to detee you have asked to send this message has been able of the vise, and so I have in mind to give you simply some which have attended this campaign and to outline some facts nt that is suggestions for its continuance, if in your judgme desirable. campaign, During the year 1921, in which we started the ies contributed $67,430 to its maintenance, the trust compan to 1922, and in and of that amount $188 was carried over of $47,000 has been contributed by the the year 1922 the sum remains unexcompanies to the campaign, of which $11,000 I have here compiled from the letters which we have received, scores and scores of favorable comments upon the ies work of the campaign and the results which the compan it, and it is not my desire, feel that they have secured from nor have we time, with the decorators and the Ball Committee hard upon our trail, to go into any detail of what these unaniresponses have been, other than to say they have been ative. mously favorable and very appreci recAnd so your committee comes to you with this brief continued; that it be conommendation: that this work be an tinued for several reasons. In the first place, that as of corporate service in agency for spreading understanding the trust field, of corporate executorships and trusteeships. and so on, that we serve a splendid purpose by spreading rthis campaign of education in breaking down misunde on unstanding and opposition, in making selfish ppositi profitable and unresultful, and better than that, of spreading the knowledge of corporate service to the point where we underconstantly increase the business resulting from that standing. We believe that we are serving a worthy end in advising the American people of the service we have to render, and we welcome participants in that field of service enthusiastically. We feel disposed to compliment greatly, and with all the appreciation we can voice, the advertising that has been done by many of our great companies, particularly in our larger cities, in the spreading of this sort of service, and in the education of the public concerning the goods we have to pended. been The results we have secured from this campaign have President in his report to you, but summarized briefly by the . perhaps a little elaboration might also be of interest in inquiries at our central office, We received altogether were made of something like 10,000 letters. Many inquiries which we have no record. We individual trust companies, of of the trust used national periodicals in tell:ng the story about five million, which as companies, with circulation of about twenty millions periodical publishers compute, means message. of people were reached with our s to those who The first year we distributed 98,000 booklet leaflets and pam- offer. subscribed to the campaign, and 63,000 I think that there is nothing that I need to add in detail. the current year, phlets of various sorts. This last year, for fact that in many States booklets and about 47,000 but just to call your attention to the we have distributed about 52,000 in the Union we face conflicts with the bar, in many States leaflets.. we feel has been in the Union we face competition with those whom But this work in that particular field, of course, not so well qualified to serve in these capacities as are the amount of are limited by the number of subscribers and by here we face of the gen- the organized trust companies; and that everyw their demand being somewhat lessened because itloora nee of the quality of service which well organized n eral economic conditions, we believe. 190 BANKERS' CONVENTION. trust companies can render along all the lines of fiduciary service, which we can constantly attack, and in the dissemination of knowledge concerning these services secure a constantly increasing volume of business. The field is so vast, the opportunity is so great, that every dollar we can spend intelligently in that field must be returned many fold to those who are prepared to render the service vvhith we advertise. We will be delighted to have suggestions from those who subscribe to our campaign at any time we have been feeling our way in the course of its development, but we believe that we have struck a note of service which is sound and profitable and which may well be continued. The dignity of trust service bears advertising and salesmanship and the old banking ideal that it was undignifi ed to advertise any form. of service of this character has been so long lost sight of that I need hardly make an appeal to that point, but I am - willing to state my own deep convictio n, which, I am sure, is shared by many here and perhaps all, that any service that is helpful to human beings, that any service that is honest, that any service that helps ameliorau the conditions of life or simplify the conditions under which we must live, is salable and advertisable with complete dignity and self-respect. And the trust companies have entered that field of selling their services, individually and collectively, with what 1 believe is dignity of approach and quality of service, which commands the utmost respect. If by any chance we ever depart from those high standards and those proper ideals, we would be glad to be criticised and I present them to you only as the standards by which we are guided and in some measure the promise of theresults which we hope to attain. And so, Mr. President, with this brief conclusion, I ask for the support of the Trust Company Division in our further campaign which we hope to wage more intensively next year, and if we could by any chance secure that far-off idea/ of 100% co-operation, I am sure it would be with lasting results to the great service which we all hope to render and profit to those who render it. TRUST COMPANY DIVISION. 191 COMMITTEE OFFICERS'REPORTS-TRUST COMPANY DIVISION Annual Address of President J. Arthur House, President Guardian Savings & Trust Co., Cleveland. Since the meeting of our Division at Los Angeles in October of last year, many important things have taken place in the world at large and in our own country, all having a bearing upon the finanial situation, both nationally and internationally. In the international field might be mentioned the Limitation of Armaments Conference held in Washington last winter, called by President Harding, so ably carried to a successful conclusion through the efforts of the President and Secretary of State Hughes. It is almost impossible at this time to estimate the effort of this important step in bringing together the five principal nations of the world to stop the enormous expenditures of money in the ever-increasing demands for better and larger navies. This conference might well be taken as a pattern for future conferences to consider many of the perplexing problems unsolved which are troubling this whole world of ours. The failure of the Genoa and Cannes conferehces to accomplish the purposes for which they were called was most disappointing to those of us who had hoped that out of those gatherings might come a solution of some of the grave problems with which Europe is confronted. The almost total collapse of the European exchanges, the unsettled German reparations situation, the failure of the European nations to balance their budgets, the enormous issuance of paper money by those nations, the jealousies and lack of harmony among the European countries—all create a most difficult situation and one which will require the utmost patience, diplomacy and highest type of statesmanship to deal with. We can no longer say to ourselves that we are not interested in the proper and just solution of the European situation. We are. For whether we will or no, our future prosperity is dependent upon a reconstructed and normal Europe, and not only Europe, but a normal condition in every country in the world with which we are doing business, and in which we can find markets for our surplus of manufactures, of food and of agricultural products. Our farmer is interested in the price at which wheat sells in London, l'aris and Berlin, for the price established there fixes the price at home. Likewise, we are interested in knowing what they have to dispose of. The question of the settlement of the debts of European nations to us has a very important bearing upon many of the questions referred to, and it is hoped that the Commission appointed by President Harding to study this Important problem will make a recommendation which will settle and solve the question. So much for the international phase of the situation. In our own country we have experienced a gradual return to normal business, interrupted unfortunately by industrial disputes and strikes of more or less magnitude, notably the coal and railroad strikes, both of which have tied up many industries, causing factories to close, throwing men out of employment and causing suffering and loss difficult to estimate. The hard and soft coal strikes, fortunately, have been settled, and the railroad disputes bid soon to be a thing of the past. Whether we agree with the manner in which they are settled or not, the fact that they are settled tends to help the business situation of the country. The tariff and immigration questions might well be given consideration but those are questions the Economic Policy Commission of the American Bankers Association has under consideration and upon which they have given expression of their views at length for the benefit of members of the Association, and are only mentioned in passing as some of the problems with which we are confronted in our march back to normal business The importance of our business is emphasized by the provisions of the Federal Reserve Act permitting national banks to establish trust departments and transact business under certain conditions. National banks, in ever-increasing numbers, are taking on trust powers as authorized by the Act. We welcome them into the field—the surface has hardly been scratched and there is business enough for all. Trust business, however, cannot be carried on as a side line and our concern is that it be conducted in the future, as in the past, on the same high plane of service by highly trained experts. And yet, in this tretrust mendous increase in the number of banks qualifying to perform lous functions lies a grave danger that inexperienced trust men, over-zea principles of trust company for business, may innocently transcend the service, the canons of ethics, and tne ideals for which this association offending has stood. Every such instance reflects not alone upon the problem at company but upon all trust companies. And so we have a eductaion—and I earnestly home, among our own profession—a problem of every trust bespeak your consideration of a program which will bring to those ideals official a comprehensive knowledge of those principles and the heart and which a quarter century of experience has breathed into life of this association. matters effectThe Division has been active and elert with respect to all every phase ing trust company interests. Through our various committees has careof our work is cared for. Our Federal Legislative Committee for the protection of the fully watched and taken appropriate measures concerred. There interests of our business as far as national legislation is to the is now most urgent need for an amendment to our laws in respect between final determination of the value of estates and a closer co-operation oecuring greater service Government officials and corporate fiduciaries in of our meto the public in the administration of estates. I would urge all bars to watch legislation effecting trust companies in their own State* meet. In during the coming year when so many State legislatures will has been some States legislation very adverse to trust company interests enacted or proposed and it will be well for our membership to cultivate the acquaintance and friendship of State legislators so that they may n frankly discuss with them any measure which may arise for consideratio effecting trust company or banking interests in their respective States. Most excellent results have come from the work and activities of the Committee on Publicity in the forwarding of the National Publicity Campaign and the sale of the trust company idea to millions of people throughout the country during the past two years. This pioneer work, undertaken and accomplished on a broader scale than ever before, merits the support of every member of the Trust Company Division. During 1921 and 1922 about $110,000 has been secured for this work,and from the most careful and conservative estimates which I make personally I am of the belief that business already secured and written will bring to the trust companies of the United States earnings representing large dividends on conditions. States. The last year has given us much to be thankful for in the United the country One year ago unemployment was very general throughout and now practically none exists. of President The adoption of the National Budget through the efforts Harding, ably assisted and administered by one of our own Trust Company officials, General Charles G. Dawes, President of The Central Trust Co. l of Chicago, marks an epoch of far-reaching importance in our governmenta affairs. The insistence of Congress at this time in passing a Soldiers' Bonus bill a time calling for an ultimate expenditure of over $4,000,000,000, at when the country is confronted with the task of meeting within the next billions of dollars of maturing obligayear the problem of refunding many again tions, decreasing revenues and a deficit in the year's operations, makers to the business draws attention to the utter disregard of our law treatment of our side of our Government. We stand for the most liberal their Government soldiers and sailors, who,in the discharge of their duty to become disabled or incapacitated, and their country in the Great War, have men is wrong in principle and but the payment of a bonus to able-bodied The action of President cannot be defended in a country such as ours. by Congress is to be most highly comHarding in vetoing the bill passed as its President a statesman mended and the country is fortunate in having and, seeing his plain duty, does who has the courage of his convictions, him in the discharge of that not allow political expediency to influence duty. Division of The American Twenty-six years ago, when the Trust Company were in the United States about Bankers Association was organized, there resources of about $643.713,741. To-day 251 trust companies, having total companies with resources in excess there are approximately 2.500 trust their statements published on June 30 of $12,000,000,000. as shown by companies of the United States 1921. Just how much property the trust impossible to state, as publication of hold in their trust departments is States, but, undoubtedly, it is far those figures is not required in most and it is unquestionably a true statein excess of the banking resources, the United States hold in their banking ment that the trust companies of property than any other group of banks in and trust departments more country. our the amount expended. Our various other standing committees have been active, such as the Forms Committee on Community Trusts, Committee on Standardization of and Charges, Committee on Staff Relations, &c. to the responsiI want to call the attention of the State Vice-Presidents bilities of their office and to suggest that they keep in close touch with all matters relating to trust company affairs, and to bring to the attention of the officers or members of the Committee any subjects or situations that may arise during the year in their respective States affecting trust company business. This year, from the standpoint of trust companies, has been most satisthe factory. Reports coming in from our members from all sections of country indicate that business is reviving and that our members are sharing in its revival. public Trust company services are coming to be better understood by the estates. generally through personal contact and skillful handling of trust made in my own city by our trust Judging from the great strides being in the past. companies,the next ten years promises still greater success than In February of this year was held our usual Mid-Winter Conference and attended in the Eleventh Annual Banquet, which was probably the largest sughistory of the Division. Out of the discussions came many valuable was in gestions for increasing trust company business, and the banquet every way a success. In conclusion, permit me thank you for the honor you conferred upon me in electing me President of the great Trust Company Division of the have American Bankers Association and for the many courtesies which been shown me during my administration of this office. My appreciation of the is especially due to the officers of the Division and to the members the Committees who have performed the real tasks and who have made work of the year so successful and so pleasant. Since I have read my report, some figures have been handed to me with respect to the total resources of the trust companies of the United States, as compiled by the United States Mortgage at Trust Company, for the year ending June 30 1922. These figures are from 2,372 trust companies. practically the same number that reported in 1921, and the total resources year of those trust companies are $12,739,000,000, an increase during the increases of $416,000.000 in resources—about 3 3-10%. The greatest the were in the State of New York, $227,700,000; Illinois, $109,800,000; in Maryland. State of California, $77.200,000: in New Jersey, $53,300,000; Pennsylvania showed a de$34.100.000; Massachusetts, $33,200,000. by crease of $72,000,000. and Texas of $40,000,000. The net increases the territory are approximately as follows: In the New England territory : Southern resources increased $53,000,000; North Atlantic, $250,200,000 territory. $26.300,000; Pacific Coast, $63,100,000; North Central, $104.000,000, and the Plains, $8,600,000. I thought those figures might be of interest in view of the statements in the report. 192 BANKERS' CONVENTION. Report of Vice-President Theodore G. Smith, VicePresident Central Union Trust Co., New York. New York. Oct. 5 1922. To the Members of the Trust Company Division: The office of Vice-President is less active than that of your President or Chairman of the Executive Committee and will, therefore, require only a Ma report. Custom has decreed that your Vice-President shall preside at the midwinter conference, and it was with some misgivings that we undertook to introduce for discussion at the last mid-winter conference, a variety of "problems" encountered by trust company officials throughout the country in the conduct of their daily work. This experiment p:oved to be a pronounced success and many expressions of commendation and testimony of helpfulness were received from those in attendance. A few of the extracts conta ned in letters received read as follcws: "Just a line to tell you what a splendid meeting I thought the one on Feb. 16 was. I feel that this institution picked up quite a let of good material for consideration." "We have an educational course for the employees of this company. The answers to the first four or five questions that were asked at the morning session of the recent trust companies' conference could very well be worked into an address that would be very helpful to our force." "I have been intending to write you a letter and lift my hat in congratulation upon that recent meeting in the Waldorf. That was, undoubtedly, the most profitable meeting of the trust companies at which I have ever been present. and I have already begun to look forward to the meeting a year hence where it is my intention to bring along several gentlemen from our trust department. When you send out your questionnaires next year I hope to send in a question or two that I trust will be of interest to hear discussed." "One of our vice-presidents told me something about these inquiries. stating that they proved most successful, and that a very interesting program was arranged in this manner." "This conference was the first one I have attended. and I want to express my enjoyment in being there and of the many good suggestions I heard from the several speakers. It certainly does one good to rub shoulders with a fellow worker who has the same problems to face that we meet in our own office, and in exchanging views learn of many good points to be used advantageously." Following the conference several members inquired regarding the preparation and conduct of such a meeting, as they desired to teed similar meetings in their own States or cities. It is hoped that this plan will be further developed at future meetings. At the meeting of your Executive Committee held in New York on Feb. 17, your Vice-President was authorized and requested to appoint a committee of five, with himself at; chairman, for the purpose of' securing a new form of entertainment at the twelfth annual banquet to be held in New York en Feb. 15 1923. The following gentlemen were invited and accepted the invitation to serve upon this committee: Uzal H. McCarter, President Fidelity-Union Trust Co., Newark, N. J.: John W. Platten, President U. S. Mortgage & Trust Co., New York City; Francis H. Sisson, Vial-President Guaranty Trust Co., New York City: Edwin P. Maynard, President Brooklyn Trust Co., Brooklyn, N. Y. Frequent conferences have been held throughout the year with the Secretary and members of the Executive Committee, and considerable correspondence has been conducted, upon various phases of the work carried on by the different Officers and committees. Respectfully submitted, 'riiE0DORE C.. sM IT H. Vice-President. Resolution Against Removal of Association's Headquarters. Mr. Fransis H. Sisson: Mr. President. I want to make a motion and read to you a resolution which was passed at the meeting of the Executive Committee held Monday and to which X would, in harmony with the feeling of my associates on the Executive Committee,, wish to draw your most carefui attention. The resolution reads ail follows: "Whereas. The President of the Division has reitortedto this Comniirree that the question of the removal of the offices of the American Bankers Association to Washington, D.C., has been again referred to a committee, of which he is a member, and — "Whereas, Heretofore the Triest Company Division, through its Executive Committee and by action of its convention, has expressed definite disapproval ofsuch removal, therefore be it P "Resolved, That this Committee reaffirms at this time its disapproval iM recommends to the members of the Division that at the convention to be held Oct. 5 1922 similar action be taken." Mr. President, I move you the approval of this resoultion, presented to us by the Executive Committee, and its adoption by the convention here assembled. The motion was unanimously adopted. Report of Committee on Co-Operation with Bar. President House: One of the most important committees of )ur Association and which has had a great deal to do with controversies all over the country in connection with our business has been that of the Committee on Co-operation with the Bar. We would like to have a brief report from that Committee at this time. Mr. Stone will present the repo-t in the absence of Me. Miller. Mr. Stone (Detroit): I should say for Mr. Miller, perhaps, teat he was here earlier in the week to attend the meeting of our Committee, but he was called come unexpectedly and he left with me the duty of making this brief report. As a matter of fact there is very little other than the routine work of the Committee to report A number of cases have come to the attention of the Committee during the year, through attorneys, trust companies and by direct observation of Mr. Mershon and members of one Committee, in which trust companies and banks with trust departments have advertised to draw wills free of charge, to furnish free legal service and to do some other things which are peculiarly within the province of the lawyer. These cases have been handled by Mr. Mershon along lines fixed by the Commit.ee in a manner entirely satisfactory to lawyers and the trust companies and banks concerned. They arose unwittingly and without intention on the part of tne trust companies and banks and it is fair to say that they are rapidly becoming fewer In number. The Committee has acted in an advisory capacity, in a few situations where a lack of understanding as to the real ;unctions of a trust company and Ithe manner of its operation existed, and where legislation embarrassing to them seemed likely. These cases have mostly been adjudicated or are in process of adjustment t the satisfaction of all parties. A law was enacted in California during the year, covering the unlawful practice of law by corporations, which the trust companies and banks and other corporations of that State regarded as sufficiently embarrassing to the operation of their business to require a refeeindum and a campaign Is now being conducted there with a vote thereon next month. In the State of Wasnington, where there had been in force a drastic law affecting trust companies and banks with trust representatives, the cultivation of a better understanding with lawyers has resulted in very considerable and satisfactory modifications of the law. Upon the part of the lawyers there has bean no concerted action during the year, other than the adoption of a resolution by the Conference of Bar Association Delegates, held during the American Bar Association Convention in San Francisco last August, affirming a resolution adopted at its Roston meeting, which welcomed the effort on the part of trust companies to co-operate with the legal profession and which recommended to State and local bar aasoclatIons that they bring cases to the attention of the trust company division. Tne Committee realizes that it cannot, in the nature of things, have a very intimate knowledge of the preelse situation in the various States and lccalities throughout the country. But so far as information and observation go, it is clear that there is a growing appreciation on the part of lawyers as to the manner in which trust companies serve them and their clients, and this has contributed to a substantial increase during the year in the spirit of ce-operation, and the establishment of mutually helpful relations between the legal profession and trust companies. Aside from any selfish advantage to either trust companies or lawyers, it is right that they should work together. because in so doing, both of them can best serve the public, and that is of vastly greater moment. Report of Committee on Protective Laws, By Nathan D. Prince, Vice-President of the Hartford-Connecticut Trust Company of Hartford, Conn., Chairman. Inasmuch as the printed program states that the report will be printed in the proceedings of this convention, I ought not to take the time now to read my report. I might say, however, in passing that the duties of the Committee in the past year have been less arduous than in the preceding year, due to the fact that 45 State legislatures were in session last year. whereas, in the present year only nine legislatures were in session. To those who are familiar with legislative work (as I am sure you all are), you must realize that any Committee on Protective Laws is engaged more or less on the defensive rather than on the offensive. Bills are introduced which in their effect will be hostile to trust companies in their operation. Therefore, a great deal of real confidential craft work has to be done on the defensive to try and kill those bills in the Committee, before they are allowed to come before the various legislatures. With this claim, I will pass in our report: COMMITTEE ON PROTECTIVE LAWS. Hew York City, October 5 1922. To the President and Members of the Trust Company Division of the American Bankers Association: Eleven State legislatures convened during the present year in the following States: Kentucky, Maryland, Massachusetts, Mississippi, New Jersey, New York, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Virginia, Georgia, Louisiana. Ken'ucky.—At the session of the Kentucky Legislature in February a number of bills hostile to barks and trust companies were introduced. They were, however, all killed in committee with the exception of one which was afterwards vetoed by the Governor. Maryland.—A bill was passed and vetoed, which imposed certain restrictions upon the establishment of branch banks and trust companies. Thin bill also gave the Bank Commissioner power to grant to any bank applying therefor, the right to exercise the same powers ana privileges as those conferred by law on trust companies. Massachuset's.—Bills were passed during the session of the Massachusetts Legislature relative to proceedings against trust companies in case of insufficient reserves; time in which a trust company shall organize and commence business; charters of consolidated trust companies; prohibition of a trust company from making loans on shares of its capital stock; bonding of officers and employees of trust companies; granting of certificates permitting trust companies to commence business; subjecting interdepartmental transfers of assets by trust companies to the supervision of the Commissioner of Banks; real estate held for banking purposes by trust companies; requiring of a weekly statement of the daily reserve of trust companies. A bill dealing with the establishment of brarch offices of trust companies and another regarding attorneys representing trust companies to file fee with Bank Commissioner, were held over to the next annual session of the Massachusetts Senate in 1923. New York.—More than two hundred bills directly or indirectly affecting trust companies were introduced in the New York Legisksture. The report furnished to us does not state in most cases whether or not these bills have been enacted into law, but this can, of course, be easily ascertained. A few of the more important bills are outlired below. Inserting new article in the tax law placing a flat tax on unincorporated businesses. This is to meet the objection raised that there are large sums of money in competition with the banks and trust companies paying no tax for doing business. Authorizing trust companies and savings banks to invest in Federal Farm Loans. Then there are the bills from the special committee appointed to investigate the New York corporation laws. All of these bills are very important pieces of legislation and must have consideration by trust companies because they have to do with the clientele in one form or another. Conunent is also made on the following b'lls: Amending the Decedent Estate Law, extending to individual fiduciaries the same privileges now held by trust companies in relation to trust funds. Killed. TRUST COMPANY DIVISION. Amending the Decedent Estate Law, providing for recording of certified copy of any resolution and declaration of trust adopted by directors of a trust company or financial institution. Providing that the Stock Corporation Law relative to issuance of preferred and common stock shall not apply to domestic corporations oeganized under banking law. Passed. Providing that no trust company or banking institution except savings banks shall receive money for deposit in accounts on which interest is calculated. Killed. Rhode Island.—Our State Vice-President for Rhode Island reports that there were very few bills presented this year; none affecting trust companies, either favorably or unfavorably. Practically all of the session was spent in a beautiful squabble over a judgeship bill. Virginia.—There were no bills introduced in the State Legislature that would affect the trust companies adversely. As no word has been received in response to an inquiry from our State Vice-Presidents for Louisiana, Georgia, South Carolina, Mississippi and New Jersey, it is assumed that no bills of vital interest to trust companies were introduced in these States. Respectfully submitted, COMMITTEE ON PROTECTIVE LAWS. JOHN STITES, NATHAN D. PRINCE, Chairman, F. G. BOYCE, JR. THOS. C. HENNINGS, J. H. COVERLY. J. W. CHALFANT, New York City. October 5 1922. Report of Committee on Community Trusts, By Frank J. Parsons, Vice-President United States Mortgage & Trust Co., New York. 193 The Staff Relations Committee held a meeting on July 13 at Cranford, N. J., at which time the whole situation was gone over very carefully, further developments of the work discussed and plans evolved for the future. Respectfully submitted. P. E. HATHAWAY. Report of Committee on Legislation, By Henry M. Campbell. To the President and Members of the Trust Company Division A. 13. A.: At the spring meeting of the Division at White Sulphur Springs. I called attention to two bills which were then pending in Congress. imposing taxes upon gifts. These bills were in the hands of the Ways and Means Committee. Nothing further was done with them, and the subject may be considered as dropped for the present. During the session of Congress which has just closed, several other propositions, mostly relating to taxation, were introduced, such as the La Follette-Frear Bill, which sought to impose a tax of 50% of the net estate in excess of $30.000.000 and the proposal of Senator Ladd to impose a bonus to be paid to the soldiers by taxing banks, banking interests, trust companies and partnerships to the extent of 60% of their profits. All of these propositions failed to materialize, and generally speaking, the attitude of the Committee has been one of watchful waiting. The bills which have recently been introduced in Congress relative to the maintaining of branches by National banks, and which will probably be fully considered by the National Bank Division at this meeting, might affect trust companies organized under State laws, who are members of the Federal Reserve System. If all members of the Federal Reserve System should be prohibited from maintaining branches, many of the trust companies would be faced with the alternative of either surrendering their membership in the Federal Reserve or giving up their branches—a most unfortunate and unnecessary situation. When the bills are up for consideration at the next session, the Legislative Committee will do what it can to defeat such unreasonable legislation, and I hope that the members of the Trust Company Division will bring such influence to bear upon their Senators and Representatives as will prevent the imposition of restraint upon trust companies, the only effect of which would be to hamper and embarrass them in the transaction of their legitimate business, as well as to cause the public great and unnecessary inconvience. The formation of a Committee on Community Trusts has been amply justified during the year that has passed. Your Chairman has received and answered a large number of letters from trust company and banking interests contemplating the formation of Community Trusts, as well as from existing Trusts or Foundations, and in this manner the Committee has been able to be of considerable assistance in carrying on the movement as a whole and in wisely directing its activities. Among the larger cities contemplating the formation of a Trust at the present time is Kansas City, and it is interesting to note in this connection that they plan to utilize the multiple trustee idea. Respectivefully submitted. At the request of the Chicago Community Trust, your Chairman, in HENRY M. CAMPBELL. Chairman. January, attended a meeting of representative bankers in that city, with a view to assisting in broadening out the plan and purposes of the Chicago Community Trust. Election and Installation of Officers. Through the courtesy of Dr. John H. Finley of the Editorial Staff of the New York "Times," favorable publicity and editorial comment on the President House: Theodore Smith of the Central Union Trust Co. of situation as a whole, was secured in the issue of July 4. New York has been nominated for the office of President of this Division. The Committee, by means of a questionnaire, has secured definite Upon motion duly made and seconded it was voted that the nominations information concerning the existing Trusts throughout the country, which be closed and that the Secretary be instructed to cast one ballot for the Is available upon request. The work of collecting information respecting election of Mr. Theodore Smith. cases of obsolescence in charitable gifts, is progressing slowly, and it is President-elect Smith was escorted to the platform. hoped that during the coming year more progress may be made. President-elect Smith: This seems to have been done with a great In general it may be said that the Community Trust movement is on deal of expedition. a. sound basis, with slow but substantial progress being made in all of Members of the Division, I very sincerely appreciate the honor that the cities where it is being seriously developed. The fact that the adoption has been conferred upon me, and assure you that I shall most heartily of the plan carries with it certain responsibilities and obligations, as well as endeavor to merit the confidence that you have placed in me. opportunities for profit, is now thoroughly understood. The more active The duty of President naturally carries with it grave responsibilities. Trusts have demonstrated that the unfavorable developments feared by I know they are increasing each and every year, and yet we have a happy of the opponents of the plan, have not materialized, and gifts and situation in our some Trust Division in that we can always get and do receive bequests are being secured in direct relation to the knowledge, enthu- the most excellent service and help from each and every member of the siasm and energy of the various Trustees. Committees, State Vice-Presidents and those to whom duties are assigned. Last-minute advices from the Fletcher Savings & Trust Co.,one of the So I might continue to speak of our Division, for I love it, as you all do. Trustees of the Indianapolis Foundation, to the effect that three cash There are a few things, perhaps, we must carry away. I mean such as gifts aggregating over $2,000,000 wlil shortly be available for the work the growth of the Trust Company work in the United States, as recorded of the Indianapolis Foundation, is very gratifying. this afternoon. FRANK .1. PARSONS. Chairman. The total resources are now over twelve billions of dollars. I think sometimes we forget that that represents 25% of the banking strength of the United States, and as a Division of the American Bankers AssoReport of the Committee on Staff Relations, By P. E. ciation we can feel very proud of the strength and also of her oftentimes humble position. Hathaway. 1 have been impressed the last few days with the thought of the speakers by you in May of last that have handled these larger problems, and it seems to me that we must The Committee on Staff Relations, appointed issuance, through Mr. Mershon's office, all of us carry away very much material for very sincere thought and year, commenced its work by the of a questionnaire which related very closely to matters affecting the per- education because without reciting the different aspects of the foreign sonnel of all trust companies in general. The response has been very grati- situation and those domestic ones that appear large, the principal thing. fying, 750 answers have been received and many letters accompanied the I feel, is that something must be done, some big plan must be formed. answers, expressing an interest in this subject, and asking for specific in- and it is not in the far and distant future, but it must be done soon, and formation on certain points and assistance in solving personnel problems. such plan and execution of the plan will in a large Measure be in the hands In a number of answers the opinion was frankly expressed that, while the of men like you. We will now proceed to the election of a Vice-President. Nominations banker felt the need of better training and closer supervision of employees, he was in doubt as to the best methods to pursue to attain this end. are in order. A summary of the replies to the questionnaire, which was published in the Mr. Dinkins (Louisiana): Vor Vice-President of the Trust Company "Journal," showed the fellowing points of most outstanding interest: Division I desire to place in nomination Evans Woollen, comparatively trained in the se- a new member of the Executive Committee, but who served it very 78% had no personnel department or any one specially lection of new employees. efficiently last year. Mr. Woollen, President of the Fletcher Savings 77% had given no thought to the employment of young men with college & Trust Co. of Indianapolis. Ind. It was voted, on motion duly seconded, that the nominations be closed education. 59% had no methods of studying their staff by which an employee might for Vice-President and that the Secretary be instructed to cast one ballot fitted. be used in a position for which he was best for Evans Woollen. President-elect Smith: We will now listen to the Report of the Nominat47% had used no special care in selecting men of the highest adaptability ing Committee: for meeting customers at the counters and tellers' windows. the questionnaire felt Mr. U. H. McCarter: The Nominating Committee appointed by the The fact that 82% of the Trust Officers answering that customers generally were expecting much more in the way of service President of the Trust Company Division, American Bankers Association, than in the previous years would seem to show from a reading of the figures presents the names of the following candidates for membership on the the above that the Trust Officers to a great extent are now preparing and train- Executive Committee of the Trust Company Division to serve during three-year term ending in 1925: ing their employees to fill the increasing demands of their clients. encouraged over both the quality and Trust Co., Detroit, Mich. Frank W. Blair, President Union Your Committee feels very much it has Edward J. Fox, President Easton Trust Co., Easton, Pa. number of the replies received, as they betoken interest in the work Wm. S. Miller, Vice-President The Northern Trust Co., Chicago. undertaken beyond its expectations. its Gilbert T. Stephenson, Vice-President Wachovia Bank & Trust Co.. Your Committee would recommend that it be allowed to increase sub-committees, which would Raleigh, N. C. number by the establishment of sectional disT. H. West Jr., President Rhode Island Hospital Trust Co., Providence. commence their work by the distribution among those banks in their ticts which had answered the original questionnaire of another series of R. I. done U. H. McCARTER, Chairman. T. H. FRIES. questions going further into the subjects. It is felt that if this is LUCIUS TETO It. systematically and fully that a booklet containing the questions, answers THOS. C. HENNINGS, Committee on each point brought up would and recommendations of your F. H. SISSON, undoubtedly be of great value to the trust companies of the country. 194 BANKERS' CONVENTION. It may say, Mr. President, that in endeavoring to arrive at proper nominees for this Committee, due attention has been given both to the service of the members of the Association in the past as well as to geographical location. I move the adoption of the report. The motion, after having been duly seconded, carried. Suggestion for a Committee to Provide Scale of Prices. Pre-sident-Elect Smith: Is there any new business? Mr. Witt: (Kentucky): Mr. Chairman, perhaps what I have to say might better have been said a few moments ago under another heading, but the developments of the trust company business have been marvelous in the last few years in this country. A few years ago nobody thought of a trust company except in connection with a few large banks in some of the larger cities. The fact is, many of the smaller banks with a capital of $25,000. under a ruling of the Comptroller of the Currency,are establishing trust departments. This Division had a committee some years ago (I bon't know whether it is one of the standing committees or not) that suggested a scale of prices, and the method of obtaining business connected with that scale of prices. which applied absolutely to the larger trust companies in the country. There are thousands of young trust companies, small ones, through the country now, that don't know just what they ought to charge, and I would suggest that a committee be appointed to furnish a suggestion of a scale of prices for the government of the trust companies in the United States, as it especially applies to the smaller companies in the smaller places. r I move that a committee be appointed for that purpose, to suggest this scale of prices and to prevent, in some measure, the competition in the reduction of the cost of administration arising out of a competition with those who are unintelligent and without a knowledge of the value of the services rendered by the trust company. President-Elezt Smith: The chair would be willing to entertain any motion of that kind that comesfrom the floor. However,I think the proper procedure would be that your suggestion (undoubtedly a good one) or the motion,should be more in the farm that it be referred to the Standing Committee on Standardization of Charges, having due regard and respect for the smaller companies. That would cover it in a better way, rather than to have two committees functioning in the same way. Mr. Witt (Kentucky): I didn't mean to create any new committee, if thee was one qualified to handle that subject. I think under present conditions it is one of the most important matters that this Association should consider at this time. There are thousands of trust companies, especially among the smaller national banks, that are assuming trust company features undo the rulings of the Department, and they ought to know something about what their charges ought to be and have something that would limit or prohibit, if possible, the competition among the smaller . companies in the smaller places. I would like to have the matter referred to that Committee, if there is a proper Committee. Secretary Me-shon: Mr. President, as Secretary' a the Committee on Standardization of Charges, I can assure the gentleman that his suggestion is already being considered by that Committee and during the next year a new eeport will undoubtedly include the feature which you desire. Specialized Service to Banks 'THIS Company is equipped to I render a broad range of services to its correspondent banks and bankers—in collection services, in supplying domestic and foreign credit information, in fiduciary and investment matters, and in every phase of foreign banking and trade information. Full details of these and other facilities are given in the new edition of our booklet, "Specialized Service to Banks," which we shall be pleased to send upon request. Guaranty Trust Company of New York ASSOCIATED BANKERS CORPORATION Supplementing, not competing with, local bank service A national institution of associated banks organized to finance their excess credit requirements, to trade in bankers acceptances and to engage in underwritings. DIRECTORS GEORGE B. CALDWELL, Chairman of the Board Former'y Vice-President Continental and Commercial Trust and Savings Bank Chicago CHARLES E. HOYT CLARENCE M. SHERWOOD, President Treasurer, South Norwalk Trust Co., Formerly with Chemical National Bank, South Norwalk, Conn. National City Bank, New York, and Director, Bridgeport Trust Co., Bridgeport, Conn. President of Foreign Trade Banking Corporation JOHN JACOB ARNOLD, 1st Vice-Pros. FREDERICK J. LISMAN Formerly Vice-President, First National Bank, Chicago F. J. Lisman & Co. CHARLES C. BARLOW, Vice-Pres. & Treas. Former Vice-President, Yale National Bank, JOHN C. MOTTER New Haven, Conn. President, Mechanics Trust Co., Harrisburg, ARTHUR C. QUAINTON, Secretary FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT Formerly Commercial Manager & Director, Vice-President Fidelity cfc Deposit Co. of Maryland Quead, Ltd., London Manager, Glanvill, Enthoven & Co., Lloyds, London ROBERT W.'WOOLLEY EARL HARDING Former Director of the Mint and Formerly Chairman of Board Interstate Commerce Commissioner Colombian Commercial Corporation AUTHORIZED CAPITAL, $5,000,000 NEW YORK 35 WALL STREET Descriptive booklet on request MAITLAND, COPPELL & CO. 62 WILLIAM STREET, NEW YORK ORDERS EXECUTED FOR ALL INVESTMENT SECURITIES. ACT AS AGENTS OF CORPORATIONS AND NEGOTIATE AND ISSUE LOANS BILLS OF EXCHANGE, TELEGRAPHIC TRANSFERS, LETTERS OF CREDIT ON The National Provincial & Union Bank of England, Ltd., London Messrs. Mallet Freres & Cie., Paris Banco Nacional de Mexico AND ITS BRANCHES Agents for the Bank of Australasia, etc. TRAVELERS' LETTERS OF CREDIT AVAILABLE THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES 1 05 Underwood Accounting lifts the "Shadow or the Pen" Drawn from photograph taken in the Bookkeeping Department of the Guaranty Trust Co., before the installation of Underwood Bookkeeping Machines. Actual photograph of the Guaranty Trust Co. Bookkeeping Department at present, showing installation of 23 Underwood Bookkeeping Machines. "We feel that the machines are a demonstrated success, resulting in economy for the company, better working conditions for our employees and better service to our customers." Vice-President (;uaranty Trust Co. of N. U NDERWOOD ACCOUNTING supplants the slow hand with the quick machine; it substitutes mechanical accuracy for human fallibility. In every way it modernizes, it standardizes, it cuts costs. And more—it helps the executive keep perfect control over the business by providing for his study up-to-the-moment figures that show dependable facts as they are, not treacherous facts as they were. In all kinds of businesses, the Underwood Bookkeeping-IMachine has lifted "the Shadow of the Pen." Underwood Typewriter Co., Inc., Underwood Building, New York Branches in all principal cities • UNDERWOOD Bookkeeping MACHINE UNDERWOOD TYPEWRITER CO., INC., (I)) Underwood Building, New York I I I Send Underwood Bookkeeping Machine representative from nearest branch office. Name - Send a copy of "Taking Industry out of the Shadow of the Pen." Address 196 , _,. eTh Official Typewriter at the Bankers Convention THROUGHOUT the world, the banker's A office stands as a model of dignity and business efficiency. Noise has no place there. It is a disturber of thought which thinking men abhor. The first and warmest friends of The Noise, ( 1 -. less were bankers. They were quick to see in . _ • 1' ) its quiet a blessing for the entire office—and P. . 1.•.. I, P in its speed an instrument of greater proC duction. I To-day, hundreds of great banks are using ----';?'-% r.-4 . The Noiseless. Their appreciation of its quiet rni PP CI1 nri Rii,:t, and superior work is expressed in the fact that r-N r-i !!1, rr t The Noiseless was the official typewriter at the •• 4i1 Convention of 1922. 1 ,,. , 1 Its selection assured the swift transcribing I ,9 E.. cl Tfr rr714 of all reports and notes without disturbing IT Fc . I 11 1 Air S clatter. _ -, till, 1 1 I I `2127 Isn't quiet just as necessary in your office as , 'i/71 7:' ;,3 I 1 r -; 1 iIII111 Fr ,7Ji II \Ill ilIlI ' in the halls of a convention or the offices of a -' ... i 1 I. ' 1 ii 1. . 11 , great bank? =• t. , r--- - -._ V Once you experience the better working con. ' iiia 4114 (li 1j, 7.ititu . `'` mu .0. ) ditions which The Noiseless brings, you will ” ..-.-.7... -.il.,-........e __,--- —,_, wonder how it was ever possible to buy a chati. __ Li z. 1_,i jj tering typewriter. I 7 ,......z J 4 , , , ""''''7i'-' 7 , ,I Y We will gladly bring you The Noisel ,s and - I ,,-, , - _ - 1. 6 f.•---I;- kok i' '-show you, in actual service, that it is • ot only r if- m quiet, but faster, easier to operate i• :lei more _ 11i , L '1' accurate than any other stock typewr.ter made. .... ---....;_ • , -"-'-'- - ' . M ., 771 74:- -. m fl ; -------, L. . ,, 4 1 . , [i - The Noiseless Typewriter Company, Inc. - -: 253 Broadway, NewYork. j lit r.p. - L,,,,,,, '=, ,11, liir-----'7-: k: - 1 • E , 716 1 ( '-,. - NOISELESS TYPEWRITER Your silent partner , ..., ""' 1 •:,--,—, , .• 1 . 11'''''•Wti.412, i i•I 0:: I .:71.1:1.7 ,"14 , i A _. 4 , 1• ..rpw ‘ ,. , _ _T U -.• .-41-'1 :.A. . ,2_1_, .,-; • ,. _ T ti 1 s IS TUE DAY OF THE 197 NOISELESS TYPEWRITER SANDERSON & PORTER Corporate Organization Management Industrial and Commercial Investigations Reports Valuations Technical Advisors Engineers Constructors NEW YORK 52 WILLIAM STREET CHICAGO SAN FRANCISCO W. S. BARSTOW & COMPANY INCORPORATED 50 PINE STREET NEW YORK CITY ESTABLISHED 1906 Engineers and Managers of Public Utility Properties Special Services Rendered Bankers and Investors in Financial Reorganizations, Investigations and Reports 198 A STONE & WEBSTER Incorporated DESIGN steam power stations, hydro-electric developments, transmission lines, city and interurban railways, gas and chemical plants, industrial plants, warehouses and buildings. CONSTRUCT either from their own designs or from designs of other engineers or architects. MANAGE public utility and industrial companies. REPORT on going concerns, proposed extensions and new projects. FINANCE industrial and public utility properties and conduct an investment banking business. NEW YORK BOSTON 199 CHICAGO The Importers & Traders National Bank of NEW YORK Capital $1,500,000 Surplus 7,000,000 • Undivided Profits 1,500,000 EDWARD TOWNSEND, Chairman H. H. PO WELL, President J. A. MITCHELL, Assistant Cashier E. P. TOWNSEND, Vice-President J. W. DOWNING, Assistant Cashier C. F. REGAN, Cashier C. F. PUCKHAFER, Assistant Cashier G. H. MASH, Assistant Cashier W. V. SILLECK. Assistant Cashier Directors JAWS A. GOLDSMITH President, Hess, Goldsmith & Co., Inc., Silks JAMES %V. LANE Of J. H.Lane & Co.. Cotton Commission Merchants ADOLPH LEWISOHN Capitalist JOHN %V. PLATTEN President. United States Mortgage & Trust Co. H. H. POWELL E. P. TOWNSEND Vice-President President EDWARD VAN VOLKENBURGH HENRY SPADONE Prest., Gutta Pecha & Rubber Mfg .Co. Formerly of P. Van Volkenburgh & Co.,Dry Goods J. WALTER SPALDING JOHN J. WALTON Chairman, A. G. Spalding & Bros. of Hunter, Walton & Co., Produce EDWARD TOWNSEND CHARLES A. WIMPFH'IMER Chairman President, A. Wimpfheimer & Bro., Inc.. Velvets 247 Broadway Opposite City Hall WINSLOW, LANIER & CO. 59 Cedar Street, New York BANKERS Deposits Received Subject to Draft Interest Allowed on Deposits Securities Bought and Sold on Commission Act as Fiscal and Transfer Agents Also as Agents for Corporations for the payment of interest and dividends FOREIGN EXCHANGE, LETTERS OF CREDIT 200