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10/2/63

REMARKS OF CHAIRMAN WILLIAM McC. MARTIN BEFORE
GEORGETOWN UNIVERSITY BANKERS1 FORUM

In my remarks this afternoon, I plan to take seriously a
responsibility for prompting, if not provoking, this group's discussion.
With this purpose in mind, I want to deal more with the problems currently
presented to monetary policy than with solutions the Fed has tried to apply..
Our central economic problem has been well enough publicized
for all to know.

Domestically, despite a vigorous revival from the 1960-61

receccion and the ensuing further expansion, ue etill struggle with an
undue margin of unemployed human and physical resources.

Internationally,

we continue to combat a large payments deficit problem.
Some observers feel that our domestic unemployment could be
further reduced by a more stimulative monetary policy; other observers
believe that our payments deficit could be significantly reduced by a
policy of lessened ease.

Whenever a problem breaks into two seemingly

conflicting parts, reasonable men may and will differ in their views of
the appropriate course of action.
The Federal Reserve Act wisely provides that decisions on
monetary policy be taken not by a single person but by two bodies, the
seven-member Board of Governors and the twelve-member Federal Open Market
Committee.

Also, it wisely provides that all votes on policy actions

taken in these bodies be recorded and published in the Board's Annual Report.
Thus, the world knows -- as it should know ~« that many decisions on
important as well as unimportant matters are reached by majority vote
rather than unanimously.




-2I consider this a good thing because it would be a symptom of
intellectual stagnation if problems as difficult and moot as those
now confronting the Federal Reserve did not give rise to differences
of opinion.

But such differences do not necessarily mean differences in

basic attitudes.

I am sure that I speak for all members of the Board of

Governors and the Federal Open Market Committee when I say that every
member of these bodies recognizes the importance of both a vigorous
and sustained growth in our domestic economy and of reasonable balance in
our international payments•

Every member agrees that, from the purely

domestic point of view, conditions may exist under which easier credit
and lox^er interest rates x^ould not be advantageous, just as, from an international point of view, conditions may exist under which less easy credit
and higher interest rates would not be desirable.
Problems arise mainly because, from either viewpoint, x^e cannot
always be certain what conditions actually are, and how they might change
in response to monetary measures.

Inevitably, we must reach our policy

decisions on the basis of information that is neither complete nor current,
and frequently also contradictory.

Let us take the simple question of whether

or not our monetary policy so far has been one of ease.
believe that it has been so.

I personally

I do not knox* of any credit-worthy business-

man who has been unable to expand his activities for lack of the necessary
bank credit. I do not know of any well-managed bank that has had to
keep down its business loans to good credit risks because of insufficient
reserves•

And I do

believe that, in trying to be stimulative, we may

have over-stayed the market and permitted some deterioration in credit
standards.




-3But quite a few reasonable people believe that the situation
is not as easy as it seems to me. They point out that money supply,
counting only currency and demand deposits, has risen more slowly than
economic activity.

They point out that the prime rate has failed to

decline, and that some indicators of bank and business liquidity are low.
Thus, they have been hesitant to risk a lessening of ease — not because
of any fundamental disagreement on policy goals, not because of dogmatic
adherence to an easy«money philosophy, but simply because their interpretation
of available data leads them to somewhat different conclusions about the
existing situation and

about the prospective effects of our action.

Moreover, the differences of opinion among us are basically
differences of degree. One of us may feel that a slight lessening of ease
would promise a modest but significant reduction in our payments deficit
while not threatening any significant slowing down of our domestic economy.
Another one may feel that the same action x?ould not promise significant
international improvement, and at the same time would pose some small but
not negligible threat to the continuation of our domestic expansion. It
is not a question of black or white, it is a question of slight differences
in shades of grey -- differences which will lead to divergent conclusions
as long as every individual has his own eyes and his own mind.
The wisdom of our Federal Reserve Act, which this coming
December will celebrate its 50th Anniversary, is shown in the scope it
gives to such divergences in analysis and opinion.

For I believe the

monetary policy stemming from this interplay of divergent forces and
judgments has been as good as, or better than, any policy that could have
been devised by a single mind.




-4Under our system any member of the Board or the FOMC has to
persuade at least a majority of his colleagues of the need to change course.
And since the members represent many shades of responsible and informed
opinion on monetary matters, evidence that may seem conclusive to one
may seem insufficient to another; any change in policy will therefore tend
to be gradual, until enough evidence is accumulated to persuade even the
more skeptical that the time had come to proceed in a new direction.
Thus, for the past 10 months or so, the Federal Reserve has
gradually lessened monetary ease without any abrupt shift in policy.

From

a level of $400 million in the last quarter of 1962, net free reserve holdings
of member commercial banks have gradually declined to about $100 million.
This significant reduction, which certainly has been working to curtail the
spill-over of credit into foreign hands, has been accomplished without any
noticeable effect on domestic credit availabilities and domestic economic
activity.
By mid-year, the reduction in free reserves had begun to exert
some upward pressure on short-term money rates.

In June, the Treasury bill

rate advanced close to the 3 per cent discount rate.

In mid-July, just

before the President's announcement of further steps to help correct
the U.S. payments deficit, the discount rate of the Federal Reserve banks
was raised from 3 to 3-1/2 per cent.

This increase was followed by a

further step-up in money market rate levels of almost 1/2 per cent, but
it has not brought about a marked reduction in credit availability.




-5Since the lessening of ease was accomplished without sudden
jerks, there was no undue market effect on longer-term rates.

Even the

rise in short-term lending rates to bank customers has mainly been
restricted to loans to security dealers.

Long-term rates have edged

up about 1/8 of 1 per cent, only one-fourth as much as money market rates.
This relationship, incidentally, is about the same as that which has
prevailed in many other periods of expansion.

While debt management and

System open market operations have been designed to help maintain this
proportion between increases in short-term and long-term rates, it \\rould
be treong to attribute the result to manipulation of the market.

The

pattern of interest rate development has been so frequently experienced
in our financial history that it may be considered part and parcel of our
market mechanism.

The purpose of debt management and open market operations

has been to keep the market equilibrium from being upset by speculation or
other disturbing incidents, rather than to put the market into an unnatural
and unsustainable position.
As you know, when the Board approved a higher discount rate,
it also raised the maximum rates which member banks may pay on time deposits
vith maturities of 3 to 12 months *

This action was desirable in order to

enable the banks, first, to compete with money market paper at the new
rate level, and second, to compete more successfully with banks in
foreign financial centers and especially with the so-called Euro-dollar
market.

But here again, the changes were not disruptive.

The secondary

market in certificates of deposits had already to some extent anticipated the
new rate level.

In this manner, sudden shifts, and therefore uneconomic

windfall gains or losses, have been kept to a minimum,




-6It is too early to know how far the Federal Reserve policy has
helped to correct the U.S. payments deficit.

It seems, however, that our

action is gradually taking effect. There are increasing reports of U.S.
corporations cutting back on the placement of funds in deposits in foreign
currencies or Euro-dollars, although as yet there has been no significant
reflux of funds previously placed abroad.
In these remarks, I have touched only upon the main problem
confronting our monetary policy today. You realize, I am sure, that
Federal Reserve action has not been confined to these points. Internationally, for instance, the Federal Preserve has continued to expand
its network of swap arrangements with foreign central banks that are
primarily designed to guard against the consequences of disruptive large
or sudden movements of volatile funds. And more important, the System
has continued to be watchful lest the monetary sector generate excess
liquidity that would support cost and price increases and thus undermine
not only the competitive position of U.S. industry abroad but also the
continued sustainable growth of our economy at home.
Nobody, and least of all the Federal Reserve, can expect to
make difficult decisions free of public criticism. Whenever this criticism
is offered in a constructive vein, it is welcome and indeed vitally
needed. For this reason I hope that your discussion will frankly consider
all aspects of our policy actions, those of which you disapprove as well as
those -- if any — of which you approve. Ue shall learn from your comments,
and not only the Federal Reserve but the entire financial community will be
the better for it.