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DIVISION OP INTERNATIONAL FINANCE
BOARD OF GOVERNORS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM

Date.

To

6/20/62

Chairman Martin
J. H. Furth

From
MESSAGE:

Attached Minutes of the MAC:
Opening statement of Mr. Jacobsson
on Consultations with the United
States, and statements of the HAC
agencies. Mr* Martin's statement on
page 3, next to last paragraph.
Attachment.

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INTERNATIONAL MONETARY AND FINANCIAL PROBLEMS
Minutes
Meeting 62-1
March 5. 1962
Secretary Douglas Dillon, (Chairman), Treasury Department
Mr* Robert V* Roosa
Mr* Robert H* Knight
Mr* J* Dewey Daane
Mr* Charles R* Harley
Mr* Edwin M* Martin, Department of State
Mr* Mortimer D* Goldstein
Mr.
Mr*
Mr*
Mr.
Mr*

Edward Qudeman, Department of Commerce
Clarence I* Blau
William Doering
Edgar S* Dunn
Eugene Birnbaum

Mr. William McChesney Martin, Board of Governors, Federal Reserve System
Mr. Ralph A* Young
Mr* Harold F* Linder, Export-Import Bank
Mr. Seymour Pollack
Mr* Frank A* Southard, Jr., International Monetary Fund
Mr* James Tobin, Council of Economic Advisers
Mr* Irving J. Lewis, Bureau of the Budget
VLtm Davy McCall
Guests?
Mr* Per Jacobsson, Managing Director, International Monetary Fund
Mr. Edgar Jones
Mr* Charles F* Schwartz
Mr* Carl P* Blackwell
Mr. Francis d*A. Collings
Mr* George H* Willis, Secretary
Mr* Fred Springborn




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International Monetary Fund Article VIII Consultations with the United
States

The Chairman welcomed the Managing Director of the International Monetary
Fund and the Fund Mission* The Managing Director made an opening statement
(attached)*
The Chairman said he agreed with the overall analysis of the Managing
Director and that there should be no conflict between economic growth and
the achievement of balance- of -payments equilibrium* With respect to the
current economic situation the Chairman noted that for roughly a year the
U*S* economy had been in a phase of reasonably rapid, but orderly, advance;
industrial production was 12$ above a year ago and the GNP 1C$ above the
low of the recent recession* Rising government spending, related in good
part to defense, had helped speed recovery but business investment, housing
and consumer outlays had all contributed to the advance* There were no signs
of excesses that could breed either an inflationary boom or an early downturn*
inventory accumulation had been rather moderatej capital spending was low
but rising and could increase more; and no consumer credit boom had arisen
and the rate of savings had increased* He was pleased that these gains were
achieved at virtually stable prices, made possible by exceptionally rapid
gains in productivity* With respect to the remainder of 1962 and 1963 the
Chairman said that the projected increase in GNP did not appear to be out
of line with previous recoveries, but that in 1963> as more of the excess
capacity of the economy is absorbed, the danger of price increases may
become greater*
With respect to fiscal and monetary developments the Chairman observed
that there had been a carefully coordinated blend of fiscal, monetary and
debt management policies* As: a result, borrowing costs had been stable,
credit had been ample and liquidity had increased to help support business
activity* The budgetary deficit for fiscal 1962—currently estimated at
$7 billion—did not appear to be inappropriate in view of the slack in the
economy, but the U*3* was aiming for budgetary balance next year* He noted
that credit availability had been maintained without driving short-term rates
to the very low levels of earlier recessions, primarily for balance~of«*payments reasons*
The Chairman said that the major problems were unemployment, the growth
rate, possibility of future price pressures and the balance of payments*
The fundamental strategy was to create more favorable environment for investment and to spur productivity, while at the same time exercising appropriate
restraints on price and wage policies and, through the Federal budget, to
assure that the benefits of rising productivity were not lost in price
increases and to assure that savings were available for private investment*
He outlined the changes in the tax system proposed to the Congress and the
reforms made in depreciation allowances* A more general tax reform would be
introduced to the Congress later, and a number of other measures were under
study.

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The Chairman then reviewed the balance-of-payments situation and the
methods of statistical presentation of the balance of payments* He indicated that the Department of Commerce, which was responsible for balance-ofpayments statistics, would shortly be publishing a somewhat different
presentation of these data together with the usual presentation and invited
the Fund mission to comment on these presentations* With respect to the
balance-of-payments results during 1961, the Chairman said that the basic
deficit amounted to about $600 million, short-term capital accounted for an
additional $1.2 billion and that errors and omissions for an additional $600
million—together resulting in an overall deficit of $2*5 billion* He noted
that the improvement recorded in 1961 resulted in large part from lower
imports and substantially greater exportsj he noted also that the U*S* had
received about $700 million in advance debt repayments during the year 0 He
explained that the deficit was financed to a larger extent in 1961 by a higher
proportion of dollar holdings remaining in private hands and in non-monetary
international institutions and that the gold loss was half that during I960*
The Chairman believed the U.S* to be competitive in world trade and that this
was demonstrated by the surplus in goods and services not financed by U*S*
Government grants and capital, which increased from $iu5' billion to $f>*0
billion*
The Chairman then reviewed some of the measures which had been adopted
to reduce public expenditures abroad* He noted that all U<3* Government
overseas expenditures were kept under continuing review; that the Department
of Defense was seeking to reduce the proportion of its procurement abroad;
and that the AID was placing more stress on financing foreign currency costs
of projects and programs in developing countries and that procurement from
other industrialized countries was generally prohibited. He referred to the
problem of local-cost financing of development projects and said that the U.S #
was seeking to reduce this form of assistance and to encourage other industrialized countries in positions of payments surplus to provide more economic
aid* He observed that legislation had been proposed to reduce special incentives to U.S* investment abroad, especially through the elimination of
"tax havens," but that such measures would not inhibit the ability of American
business to compete effectively abroad* He then listed some of the means by
which the U.S* was seeking to increase international receipts, including the
new trade legislation proposed and the military expenditure offsets negotiated
with Germany* He noted that under these arrangements the U.S„ expend!tures
in Germany will be offset over the next two years* The Chairman also commented briefly on the progress being made in obtaining the necessary legislation to permit the U*S* to participate in the special borrowing arrangements
of the IMF,
The Chairman then described the balance-of-payments outlook for 1962*
In addition to the payments under the arrangements with Germany described
earlier, debt prepayments by other countries, possibly Including France, were

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expected to be larger than last year* Imports may be expected to increase
by $1*5 ~ 1*75 billion while exports may increase by about $1*0 billion*
The basic deficit might be larger than last year, amounting to between $0*6
billion and $1*5 billion* and the sise of the overall balance would be
influenced to an indeterminate extent by short-terra capital movements*
The Commerce Department representative described the measures being
taken to stimulate exports. He noted that since less than h% of U*S* firms
do an export business and exports account for less than h% of GNP, there is
a good opportunity to increase exports* He described the new responsibilities of Commercial Attaches in Embassies abroad^ Trade Fairs, Trade Missions,
the Trade Center in London and plans for other centers in Bangkok, Tokyo,
Frankfurt and other cities, the establishment of travel bureaus overseas,
the work of the Commerce Department field offices in the United States, the
National Export Expansion Committees, and the numerous industry meetings
held in the Department of Commerce. He also described the new program of
awards to industries for excellence in export performance.
The President of the Export-Import Bank described the two new export
credit programs, which, he said, provides the United States with facilities
as good as those of other countries* Through an association with 57 of the
largest private property insurance companies (FCIA) the Bank assumes the
political risks and shares the credit risks of export credits* He said that
only short-term credits were now being covered but plans were being made
also to offer medium-term policies* He noted that in its first month of
operations the Association received 31*7 applications and issued binders
for $20 million which might represent seven or eight times this amount in
actual exports - or more than the Bank had covered by its former exportcredit program* He described also the credit arrangements on meditim term
now available to commercial banks under which the Export-Import Bank (a)
agrees to guaranty later maturities against political and credit risks and
earlier maturities against political risks only; or (b) agrees to finance
the later maturities* The Bank was pleased that commercial banks generally
prefer the first alternative* He noted also that the Bank had joined the
Berne Union* With respect to project lending, he said that the Bank extended
credits of about $700 million during 1961* He noted also that through the
cooperation of the Department of Commerce and the Federal Reserve, the ExportImport Bank had been arranging meetings with smaller banks to discuss export
credit arrangements*
The Chairman of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
described the activities which had recently been resumed in foreign exchange
operations* He said that these activities had been begun on a modest scale
to intervene against speculative movements on the exchange markets in order
to improve the workings of the international payments system. The Federal
Reserve operations were conducted in cooperation with the Treasury Exchange
Stabilisation Fund.
The Managing Director of the Fund said that the discussions had indicated
to him how varied the problems being faced by the U.S. were and that the U.S*
had to be concerned with problems of world-wide scope. He stated feiso that he
believed that the problems were well in hand.
Attachmenti Opening Statement by IMF Managing Director
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Article VIII Consultations vith the United States
Opening Statement by the Managing Director
of the International Monetary Fund
on the 5th of March 1962

I.

For many reasons these Article VIII Consultations with the United
States which begin today mark an important stage not only in the history
of the Fund but also in a wider setting.

I remember when, as a young

secretary, I participated in the work of the Financial Committee of the
League of Nations in its early days, some forty years ago.

Then only the

poor conquered countries--Austria, Hungary, and Bulgaria, and some
others—agreed to appear before the Committee and have their affairs
reviewed.

These countries had in fact not much choice, but even coun-

tries like Poland and Roumania, though needing a stabilization program
with a foreign loan, refused to do so.

It was really only after the

Second World War that distinct progress was made in this field of
consultations, and in two different contexts.
Firstly, thanks to the Bretton Woods Conference, the first Article
of Agreement of the International Monetary Fund declares that the purpose
of the Fund is "to promote international monetary cooperation through
a permanent institution which provides the machinery for consultation
and collaboration on international monetary problems." Further on,
Article XIV stipulates that after a lapse of five years, annual consultations should be held with countries that maintain restrictions on current
transactions.



These annual consultations began cautiously in 1952, for

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they were then pilot exercises in analysis and summation of individual
country problems. They have, as you know, developed in quite a remarkable
way.

Confidence has grown on both sides, and the member governments

have become anxious to hold the discussion in their own capitals so as
to make it possible for their key policy-makers to attend.
The other context was in the framework of the O.E.E.C. (now the
O.E.CrD.) and its Payments Union, emanations of the Marshall Plan. In
this organisation all the member countries became used to discussing
their problems; and soon they, too, found it useful to do so.
This being the case, it is not surprising to find that the European
countries, after they had made their currencies fully convertible, were
eager to carry on with annual consultations, and I think it must be
regarded as a matter of general satisfaction that it was agreed in i960
that annual consultations should be arranged also with Article VIII countries.

Naturally, the attitude of the United States is in this, as in

other matters, of the greatest importance since what the United States
does becomes respectable for any other country.
As you know, the consultations will, on our side, be conducted by
Mr, Edgar Jones and his colleagues, Mr. Charles Schwartz and Mr. Carl
Blackwell.

I am glad to be here at this opening meeting, and I expect

to be present also towards the end, and, in any case, at the final
meeting. You will already have received the "List of Topics."

It is, of

course, always easier to ask questions than to answer them, but I am sure
that here, as in other countries, we shall receive full and frank answers,
and I am also sure that you expect frankness from our side.
I need not point out that these U.S. Consultations are especially
important for the Fund and its member countries. The U.S. dollar is




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not only a "key currency," but a currency that maintains a special link
to gold, since this country is the only one which is prepared not only
to buy but to sell gold at stated prices. Consequently, it holds a
crucial position in the world1s monetary system with its present version
of the "gold standard,"

This is one of the reasons not for less, but

for more attention to the United States, It is particularly important
that the rcle which the United States performs should be understood
and supported both inside and outside this country,
ise sbell, I understand, have the advantage of hearing statements
here today from U.S. representatives. Naturally, the conclusions to
which we shall arrive as a result of these consultations will depend on
these statements and on the other observations which will be made by
the U.S. representatives.

If today I make some preliminary remarks, I

do so partly because I am not personally participating in the coming
day-to-day consultations.

But I want to make it clear that I regard

these opening remarks of mine as subject to correction; it is perhaps
precisely for that reason that I make them today, since mentioning them
now gives time for corrections to be made in the course of the consultations.
In the summer of 1920, I worked with the then Acting Director of
the Economic and Financial Section of the League of Nations, Mr. Walter
Layton (now Lord Layton), on documents for the Financial Conference of
the League, which was due to meet in Brussels that autumn.

There were

only scanty statistics but we made some daring estimates, and I remember
Layton quoted to me a saying of Lord Bacon which he thought appropriate:
"Truth emerges more easily from error than from confusion."




- k II.
The "List of Topics" begins with questions concerning the general
economic situation and outlook; then leads on to matters of fiscal and
credit policy; and, finally, comes to the question of the balance of
payments.

I think this is a logical and appropriate order because it

serves to emphasize that the balance of payments1 movements are very
largely the consequence of internal developments and policies—seen,
of course, in relation to developments and policies in other countries.
But having said this, I shall begin here today at the other end,
namely, with the balance of payments, and will do so with reference to
the very useful table on the United States Balance of International
Payments, I96O/6I, which appears on page 1^9 of the Annual Report of
the Council of Economic Advisers.

I am glad to see that this table

presents the balance of payments in three different ways, each one
of which is significant,

(in the report, the figures for 1961 are

preliminary, but the later figures now available do not differ much
from these preliminary estimates.)

The first column of the table gives

the balance on the current account and of the unilateral transfers.
This is the way in which the Europeans usually refer to the outcome
of their balance of payments--excluding capital transfers but including
grants•




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Table 1.

Current Account of U.S. Balance of Payments

1950-57
Average

1958

1959

i960

1961

(in billions of U.S. dollars)
Current income
Merchandise Exports
Merchandise Imports

14.2
11.3

16.3
13.0

16.3
15.3

19.4
1^-7

19.9
14.5

Export surplus

2.9

3.3

1.0

4.7

5A

Net income from services

2.0

2.4

2.3

2.3

2.8

Total income

4.9

5.7

3.3

7.0

8.2

Additional current outlay
Military expenditure abroad
Net unilateral transfers (grants, etc.)

2.3
2.7

3.4
2.3

3.1
2.3

3.0
2.5

3.0
2.8

5.0

5-7

5.4

5.5

5.8

-0.1

-0.1

-2.1

+1.5

+2.4

Additional current outlay
Balance on current account

I agree with the Economic Advisers that the surplus in this account
means that "the nation as a whole is earning more than it is spending in
its relations with the rest of the world, and this 'saving' leads to an
increase of the net assets of the country."

You will see from the table

that there vas really only one year in which there was an appreciable
deficit on current account, namely, the year 1959, and that the following two years show a growing surplus. Since the Europeans think in terms
of their own practice, they often get an exaggerated idea of the U.S.
imbalance when they are told about the over-all balance of payments
deficit.

It can be seen from this table that exports have stood up very

well, and that imports were at their highest in 1959. That was the year
of a deficit on current account; it was preceded by the largest budget







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deficit ($12.5 billion) and the most pronounced credit expansion.

In

the following year the budget was balanced and credit expansion curbed,
and a current surplus reappeared as the expansion was slowed down here
and continued to increase on the other side of the Atlantic.

So, as in

other countries, budget and fiscal policies in the United States have
an important influence on the balance of payments, and this country is
no exception to this general rule.
The next column shows the balance on basic account, which includes
long-term capital transactions, that is, direct investments in
Table 2.

Basic Account of U.S. Balance of Payments
(in billions of U.S. dollars)
1950-57
Average

1958

1959

I960

1961

Balance of current account

-0.1

-0.1

-2.1

+1.5

+2.4

Net U.S. Government loans

-0.3

-1.0

-0.4

-1.1

-1.0

Net private long-term capital

-1.1

-2.5

-1.6

-2.4

-1.8

-1.4

-3.5

-2.0

-3-5

-2.8

-1.5

-3.6

-4.1

-2.0

-0.4

Net long-term capital
Basic balance
^"'". " r.

in.":

ni

'Mi'", " f, " u - i

business enterprises abroad, private purchases of foreign securities,
U.S. Government loans, and long-term investments by foreigners in the
United States. The table given in the Report of the Council of Economic
Advisers shows a deficit of $0.1 billion for 1961. I believe that the
later figure, now available, is $0.k

billion, slightly higher but not

very much so.
The amount of U.S. Government leans depends largely on the policy
of the Administration, while the net outflow of private capital funds

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depends clearly on market forces. Among these forces, one important
factor is cheaper production abroad (especially in the now widening
European markets); others are higher interest yields and the position
with regard to the supply of domestic capital in the United States1
market, as compared with the supply in the European markets. There was
a decline in the outflov; of net private capital in 1961, as compared with
the average for the three previous years, probably the result of a growing availability of capital in the European markets. We are of course
very interested to hear what you can have to say about the prospects
in this field.
Now I come to the over-all balance:

Table 3.

Over-All Position of U.S. Balance of Payments
(In billionsof U.S. dollars)
1950-57
Average

1958

1959

I960

1961

Basic balance

-1.5

-3.6

-4.1

-2.0

-0.4

Net private U.S. short-term
capital

-0.2

-0.3

-0.1

-1.3

-1.4

Errors and omissions

/0.4

/0.4

/0.5

-0.6

-0.6

/0.2

/0.1

/0.4

-1.9

-2.0

-1.3

-3.5

-3.7

-3.9

-2.4

Net flow of short-term funds
Over-all balance

I assume, as the Economic Advisers have done, that the item "Errors and
omissions"will be mainly unrecorded capital movements—probably a good
deal on short-term. We find that the outflow of short-term funds began
really in I960, i.e., after the European currencies had become corivertibleand probably more important—after the monetary reserves of most of the




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European countries had increased so much that their currencies could
be regarded as safe.

In these circumstances the question of remuneration

will naturally play a great role, together with the relative supply of
capita].

Here, too, I think it is important that the liquidity on the

markets of many countries on the Continent of Europe has increased
quite markedly over the last year and interest rates have been declining.
If I therefore may sum up, the balance of payments will depend on (i)
budget and credit policies; (ii) and closely connected with (i), the
availability of capital, which is not only the result of fiscal and credit
policies but also of the flow of genuine savings in relation to demand;
and (iii) relative cost and price levels.
These factors are of course inter-related, but I agree with the
Economic Advisers that the price movements—and I would add, the cost
movements—are at the heart of the matter.

It becomes a question of

the behavior of costs and prices in this country in relation to the behavior of costs and prices abroad.
May I say that I think the Economic Advisers have rendered a great
service by their statements on the balance of payments and by setting
out their views of what should be the appropriate price and wage movements.

To a very great extent, I agree with them.

They are right in

stating that prices abroad have recently gone upward, while prices have
on the whole been stable here in the United States, and the difference in
cost movements is even more significant, but I do not think it can be
taken for granted, considering the growing competition, that European cost
and prices will continue to move at the same rate as over the last year.




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The authorities in Europe are beginning to be concerned, and so is the
public, and it is therefore possible that European price rises will have
to slow down, and will do so especially as the boom becomes less intense.
It seems to me that there is perhaps too little said about the fact that
U.S. wages are already on the high side compared with European wages.
I believe that close consideration should be given to a statement made
by Dr. Holtrop, the President of the Nederlandsche Bank, as set out in
the Annual Report of the Bank for 1959, when he said:

"Countries with

a balance of payments deficit must above all avoid demand inflation;
the movement of labour costs resulting from changes in the level of
wages and in general per capita productivity must in their case lag
behind that in the surplus countries.

These latter may be reasonably

expected not to permit any demand deflation, and not to prevent the adjustment of wages to the permanent increase of per capita productivity."
Dr. Holtrop thus recommends that in the surplus countries in Europe wages
should be allowed to increase pari passu with the increase in productivity,
but that in the deficit countries the increase should be not quite up
to the rate of increase in the average trend of per capita productivity.
I admit that this will be a difficult policy to get adopted, but there is
now more understanding of the problems involved than ever before.
III.
I now turn to the question of economic growth.
Economic Advisers deals very fully with this subject.

The Report of the
I personally have

much sympathy with the view that there is a need to expand demand, but I
would like to make certain observations, more fully than they do, on the
subject of the appropriate price and cost behavior in such a situation.




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The Economic Advisers say that "galloping inflation is profoundly disruptive of economic efficiency and growth"—and I agree,

I also agree

that, as they say, "creeping inflation has effects on the distribution
of income, which are always capricious and often cruel, and may generate
perverse changes in the structure of prices,"

In present circumstances,

however, I simply do not believe that there can be either galloping or
creeping inflation in this country. We must, I think, accept that
prices in the present state of fierce competition are not likely to
rise—and that we must adjust our policies accordingly.

Here I must

again emphasize that the observations I am making are open to correction,
but as I said before, I have thought it useful to make them at this
early stage, especially as I believe that the whole question of costs
is of overwhelming importance for the realization of economic growth.
On page 189 the Economic Advisers state "that the general guide for
non-inflationary wage behavior is that the rate of increase in wage
rates (including fringe benefits) in each industry be equal to the rate
of over-all productivity increase."

This, I think, is likely to be

the result in the long-run, and I also think that it is useful to have
this laid down as an over-all principle, with some important modifications added. But we have to remember that we always live in the shortrun, and the peculiar situation at present is that there is widespread
unemployment and the need to absorb year after year new workers.

I cannot

help feeling that it would be valuable to recall what some of the ablest
economists have said of such a situation:
Let us first consider the view of Keynes. His recommendation at
a time of widespread unemployment is, on the one hand, to arrange for




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an increase in demand (through financial expansion and other ways), but,
on the other hand, to allow no increase in nominal wages. When he wrote
his "General Theory," published in 1936, he argued against a reduction in
nominal wages since he thought that such reduction would give rise to
expectations of a future decline in prices—and this would have a deflationary effect. But he never considered it appropriate to have an
increase in nominal wages while there was widespread unemployment. The
reason is simple: an expansion in demand will buy more labor if the
price for labor is not increased.

It is important to remember that Keynes

arrived at this conclusion in the context of a closed economy, thus
without any consideration of balance of payments problems. He was, of
course, aware that in the circumstances of fierce competition that
prevailed in the Great Depression, prices could not generally be expected
to increase.

(I have myself made a study of developments in various

countries during the 1930!s, and I found that those countries which combined an expansion of demand with adjustment of costs were those that
had, under those difficult circumstances, the best performance of recovery.)
Next I want to refer to the views of Professor Alvin B. Hansen who
is, as you know, one of the foremost commentators on Keynesr theories in
this country.

In an article on March 5> 1961 in the "New York Times

Sunday Magazine," he proposed among other things an expansion of demand,
and added:

"A danger signal needs to be hoisted.

The increased aggregate

demand springing from these programs could evaporate in higher prices
and more money wages with no gains in output and employment.

There is

indeed a great danger that this will happen in whole or in part."




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I also want to refer to the Swedish economist, Knut Wicksell. The
last address I heard him make was in the Economic Club in Stockholm in
the winter of 1920. He discussed the question of the consequences
that would result from an increase in wages by the labor unions to a
higher level than marginal productivity of labor would warrant. He went
on to say that in such a case unemployment would be the inevitable result.
One of his famous phrases is, as you may know:

"The capitalist saver

is . . . fundamentally the friend of labor, though the technicalinventor is not infrequently its enemy.!!

The reason is, of course,

that labor-saving inventions tend to reduce the equilibrium wage for
labor.

In a market economy—and that is what we have in the Western

World—the objective must always be to attain economic equilibrium, and
failure to do this is fraught with dire consequences, being especially
harmful to growth.
I would like to mention that the views expressed by these three
economists have nothing to do with their political orientation. All
three were decidedly "leftish," being all in favor of the welfare state
and not averse to governmental intervention, and both Wicksell and
Hansen were outspokenly in favor of measures for the retraining of
labor, which they regarded as important both technically and psychologically. But they all examined what they thought would be the equilibrium
wage in the market system in a situation of unemployment, and all three
came to the same conclusion.
I am fully aware, of course, that life is made up of compromises,
but growth and employment are important matters, and that being the case, ,




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the views expressed by these three able economists should certainly
receive serious consideration.
Sometimes I am asked whether the policies which have to be pursued
to attain a high level of growth are compatible with those that are
required to master the difficulties in the balance of payments, i4y inclination is to answer that, in the present situation, these policies are
not only compatible but essentially the same.
May I add that the only real fear for the dollar which I find among
the best informed Europeans is the following:

they ask what will happen

if there is not much growth and no real reduction in unemployments

Will

that not lead, they wonder, to desperate U.S. policies, including a large
budget deficit which many of them think will not in itself do much good;
but here again we find a close connection between growth policies and
balance of payments considerations.
In regard to increase in demand, I should like to make one specific
observation:

additional budget expenditure may, when it happens, be

expected to increase demand pro tanto, but it can hardly be so great
that in itself it will solve the problem (it did during the war but then
it was for very large amounts and, incidentlly, wage rates were kept down).
The crucial question is, of course, whether or not the increased budget
expenditure exerts a cumulative effect that is often called the "multiplier11
effect.

Keynes1 "General Theory" had not yet begun to be read on the

Continent when we had, I believe in 1937, a discussion on the effects of
a public works program in the Economic Society in Basle—and the question
we discussed was under what conditions such a program could be expected to
act as a "Initialzundung"~an initial ignition to expansion.




Isn!t

-uthat very much the same question that we have before us in this country
today?
An eminent economist well known to all of us is, I believe, not too
optimistic about the prospects at the moment. From the conversations I
have had with him over the past year I think I can guess why that is so.
He seems to think that creeping inflation was necessary to prevent profits
from shrinking too much, as he expected wages would continue to rise.
He now sees no "chance"—as I suppose he would say—of a creeping inflation,
and if wage increases then were to continue he would naturally be concerned
about the effect this would have on growth.
Personally, I am not really pessimistic.

Over the last year there

has been considerable progress towards equilibrium internationally, and
I find that here in this country economic problems are discussed with
growing realism.

I have quoted the views of some eminent economists.

Naturally, I hope that in the coming consultations these fundamental
matters will be discussed.

I am not sure that much of what I have said

today will enter into the final report, but at this opening meeting I have
taken the opportunity of referring to certain matters which surely concern
us all.

I have done so in no critical spirit.

I appreciate very much the fine educational work that has been undertaken, and I realize all the difficulties in policy-making.

Indeed, I

admire very much all that has already been done, and I hope and believe
that the results of these consultations will be to present to those who
receive the forthcoming report a picture of the difficulties, opportunities, and achievements of this country, especially as the Free World wishes
all success to the United States in coping with its economic problems.




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