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http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis _H_E_A_R I_N G_S (59) ..... House Ways and Means Committee (Wilbur Mills, Chairman) ........ (60) ...... Joint Economic Committee (Wright Patman, Chairman) http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis ..... 1962 Folder 2 Page 1 Executive Session, closed to the public. reviewing the state of the economy and question of tax reduction. 2 p.m. .............. 8/9/62 Hearings on the state of the economy. 11:40 a . m . and 2:30 p . m . (Preceded on 8/15 by President Malcolm Bryan, and at 10 on 8/16 by President Al Hayes) . . . 8/16/62 Continued in 1963 folder For release on delivery Statement of William McChesney Martin, Jr. Chairman, http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System before the Joint Economic Committee August 16, 1962. Mr. Chairman: It may be that just about everything that can be said about matters of interest to the Members of this Committee has already been said by other witnesses, but I should like nevertheless to be as helpful as possible in discussing economic and credit conditions today. Much in the recent flow of statistical information has indicated a definite loss of momentum in the pace of economic expansion. particularly true of the June reports. This was In that month, there were declines in durable goods orders, average hours of work at factories, retail sales and housing starts, and only small gains in industrial production, employment and personal income. Altogether, the impression of slowdown seemed well confirmed. There has been a popular tendency to view the various signs of slowdown as foreshadowing an imminent upper turning point in the economic cycle. Judged from the perspective of cyclical indicators, which in the past have shown a tendency to run ahead of the over-all data, this view has perhaps been reasonable. I sometimes wonder though if we have not become overly sensitive to cyclical indicators -- we read, watch, study, and talk about them so much that we may have become like medical students who acquire each disease as they read about its symptoms in their textbooks. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis We ought to remember that, while leading indicators have correctly foretold some recessions, they have also on occasions given portents of recession that did not occur. In June, our economic data were subject to certain special influences and, if allowance is made for these, the situation does not appear so persuasively discouraging as appeared at first sight. Thus, using up the inventory accumulated in anticipation of a steel strike that did not occur affected not only new orders for steel but also employment and hours of work in the steel industry, and unemployment claims in steel centers. The steel industry is so large that declines in that one industry can at times result in declines in over-all manufacturing orders, employment, hours of work, and many other measures of economic activity. Obser- vers who simply count the pluses and minuses among the cyclical indicators run the risk of being overly influenced by the reflections of a decline in one industry, not of cyclical origin, showing up several times in their lists of unfavorable omens. In addition to the steel situation, though of less importance, a strike at some auto plants affected production and sales in June. The adverse effect of this on the June data should not be interpreted as being of cyclical significance. Nevertheless, the June showing as a whole was not strong. And it certainly made clear that the economy was moving ahead more slowly than http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis c - 3 - the optimistic goals widely discussed at the turn of the year. From data now available for July, the economic situation appears improved. The unemployment rate was down slightly, non-agricultural employment rose somewhat further, and labor market data were definitely encouraging in another respect: they showed a fairly large decline in the number of long-time unemployed. Among other information on July, retail sales rose briskly, with new domestic auto sales and department store sales both making a strong showing. Private construction activity, seasonally adjusted, held its advanced level. The Board's index of industrial production, which was released early this week, gained almost a full point, advancing to a new record high approximately onefifth above the 1957 level. Preliminary indications from production schedules and weekly sales reports suggest that the general improvement of the economy carried forward in early August. The information on consumers' purchase plans obtained in July by the survey conducted for the Board each quarter by the Census Bureau gave two important indications. First, consumer buying plans had not been adversely affected over-all by the recent stock market decline and the mixed economic tendencies shown for June. Second, as you may recall from earlier testimony by a member of our staff, the data show some strengthening of consumer purchase plans since early this year, especially for household durable goods. Consumers are in a good financial position. Their incomes rose further in July to a new record high, and so did their savings. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis The payments on debt that consumers are obligated to make each month have risen less rapidly than their incomes. Furthermore, defaults on instalment credit have declined sharply over the past 18 months to levels at or close to the lows for recent years. Business concerns' retained earnings and depreciation allowances in recent months have also been large, in many instances considerably in excess of current needs for replacement and expansion. This form of saving has been used in providing an additional flow of funds into credit markets and into extensions of trade credit as well. Meanwhile, business demand for bank loans has been less vigorous than in this stage of previous upswings. Banks, t h e r e f o r e , have sought other outlets for their funds and have increased other loans and investments, especially their holdings of State and local securities and real estate loans. Demand deposits have changed little so far this year, while time and savings deposits grew very rapidly in the first quarter and then continued to expand substantially but at a lesser rate. Over the first half of the year, short-term interest rates fluctuated within a narrow range around a 2 - 3 / 4 per cent level. Since late June, the level has been a little higher, with the range on 3-month Treasury bills running between 2. 80 and 3 per cent. Yields on longer term U. S. Government, State and local government, and corporate issues meanwhile declined through midspring and subsequently moved moderately upward, but they remain below the earlier highs for the year. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Throughout the year, mortgage yields have moved downward. The decline that has taken place in long-term interest rates has reflected in large part the increased availability of funds in long-term sectors of the market, as the rapid increase in time and savings deposits at commercial banks was accompanied by continued large inflows of funds to mutual savings banks and savings and loan associations. Demand for long-term funds in recent months has been generally moderate. My comments would be incomplete if I neglected to mention the persistent problem of restoring balance in our international accounts. The problem of domestic expansion is interrelated with our international problems and all of them must be thought about at the same time. The United States has been making progress in reducing its over-all deficit in international transactions. The deficit came down from nearly $4 billion in I960 to about $2-1/2 billion last year, and to an annual rate of just under $1-1/2 billion in the first half of 1962. no grounds for complacency. Even so, we have We must move further towards international balance next year, and we must also achieve and maintain equilibrium in the accounts in future years. U. S. foreign trade has developed in an encouraging way this year. Total exports have been rising, with exports to Western European countries especially strong. While imports also have risen, they have not spurted ahead as they did in the preceding period of cyclical expansion and so have http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis remained lower in relation to the gross national product. Both our export and our import performances would indicate that we have been competing effectively in international trade, and international price trends support this interpretation. The level of wholesale prices has been stable in this country for some time, while prices in industrial countries abroad have risen. The merchandise trade surplus, at an annual rate of $5 billion in the first half of 1962, is large but not large enough to match our large net payments for aid, for military expenditures, and for net private U. S. lending and investment abroad. And it would probably be unrealistic to expect the whole of the remaining adjustment to come through yet further expansion of the trade surplus. That is why the Government has been working, both from the procurement side and through negotiations with our allies abroad, to reduce the balance-of-payments burden of our foreign aid and military programs. That is why we have had to pay close attention to the possible effects that monetary and credit policies may have on international movements of capital. Taken together, domestic economic and balance-of-payments developments have posed a problem for monetary policy, but in my judgment that problem has not yet constituted as clear cut a dilemma as some observers suggest. While it has been necessary to formulate policy in the light both of the credit needs of the domestic economy and the potential effects on http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis international capital movements, up to the present time it has not been a matter of choosing between domestic and international goals. With the rare exception of an internal liquidity crisis, such as that experienced in the early 1930's, it is never helpful to sound recovery or economic expansion to flood credit markets with redundant funds. When resources are not fully employed, credit should be readily available to meet the legitimate needs of commerce, industry and agriculture -- as it is now -- but no constructive purpose is served by expanding the credit stream to the point where it overflows its banks. So far, we have been able to pursue policies which have not interfered with the ready availability of credit in the domestic markets at rates generally about even with those prevailing in early 1961, and in some critical areas substantially lower. Fortunately, we have been free from inflation and the expectation of imminent inflation. This has made possible a more liberal policy with respect to r e s e r v e availability, a greater growth in bank credit, and less upward movement of interest rates than in any other recovery and expansion in recent history. In the last 12 months alone, we have added almost a billion dollars to bank reserves, bank credit has expanded by $17 billion, and high-grade long-term corporate bonds and State and municipal securities are about 1/4 of 1 percentage point below their year-ago levels. At the same time, we have generally maintained short-term rate relationships with other major financial markets such as to avoid encouraging outflows of short-term funds. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis The fact that we have done and are continuing - 8 - to do this, as we strive to improve our basic balance-of-payments situation, is bound to strengthen confidence in the dollar at home and abroad. In my judgment, this enhanced confidence is essential if we are to solve our balance-of-payments problem and promote domestic prosperity. This leads me to the matter of deficit financing. It now seems most likely that we shall experience some deficit in our budget for fiscal 1963. That deficit would, of course, be increased if taxes are reduced during the current fiscal year. I have stated quite explicitly my belief that such deficits as we may experience, whether they are due to a shortfall of receipts under the existing tax structure, an increase in expenditures, or a reduction in tax rates, should be met by borrowing from the real savings of businesses and individuals, not through the creation of money through the banking system. This does not mean that we will experience less easy conditions in credit markets. What happens will depend on many things -- most impor- tantly on the rate of activity in the economy: credit conditions may be tighter, or easier, or the same. It is also helpful to recognize that in the American banking system there is an important distinction between total bank credit expansion and that portion of it which can be traced to the creation of money and credit. The loans and investments of commercial banks in the United States can grow in two ways: http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis one, through people placing more savings in banks in - 9 - the form of time and savings deposits; or two, through the creation of demand deposits. Hence, bank credit can expand substantially without any significant money creation, as it has done in some periods. Alternatively, growth in bank assets can be -- as at times it has been -- associated almost entirely with money creation. Analysis of these processes would be simpler if we had an institutional structure in this country in which the money creation function was entirely separate from what is called the savings intermediary function -- the collection of small savings and their investment for the benefit of depositors, of shareholders and of policyholders -- but that is not the case. To the extent that individuals place their savings with banks and that banks, in turn, invest these savings in Government securities, the deficit which led to the issuance of the securities is being financed by real savings just as surely as if the individuals had purchased savings bonds in the first instance. Moreover, a certain amount of money creation to meet the legitimate needs of a growing economy is a necessary and normal function of the banking system, and it is expected reserves will be provided for expansion to meet such needs. Some part of the normal growth in banks' assets which accompanies this money supply expansion must, as a simple matter of banking prudence, take the form of additions to the secondary reserves of the banking system, which consist largely of Government securities. Additions to banks' holdings of Government securities due to additional http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 10 - flows of savings through this particular intermediary or to normal growth in the money supply do not represent the financing of Government deficits with bank-created or "printing press" money. Such additions are not inflationary and do not pose any threat to the soundness of the dollar. What would be damaging to the strength of the dollar would be the deliberate expansion of the credit base, above and beyond the needs of the economy, in order to provide a ready market for the Government's borrowing. This was done in the United States during vVorld War II, and in other countries both at that time and during the economic chaos that followed. is still being done in some unfortunate countries today. It The results have invariably been bad, and have ranged from damaging, as they were here, to nearly disastrous, as they have been in some other countries. The process of withdrawal and correction is always painful and difficult. The only sure safeguard against the financing of deficits through bank credit creation lies in careful control over the process by which bank credit and money are created. As I have said, the Federal Reserve is deter- mined to provide, on the one hand, the reserves needed to support the necessary and healthy expansion of bank credit and money required to meet the needs of a growing economy, and on the other, not to again become entangled in the vicious circle of financing Government deficits with bank credit created solely for that purpose. In closing, let me summarize as specifically as I can my view with respect to the economic situation today. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 11 All in all, the performance of the economy has been disappointing in that it thus far has failed to reach the goals set for it by some and predicted for it by others. Yet the economy has withstood some rather severe shocks -- last fall an auto strike, this year a major steel inventory adjustment and the sharpest stock market break since the 1930's -and still it has moved forward. On the one side, it has not achieved the levels of manpower or physical resource utilization we would all like to see; on the other, the latest data do not, in our judgment, confirm that we have reached or passed a turning point in the cycle at this time. The most likely possibility in the period immediately ahead seems to be for a continuation of mixed movements in the more sensitive indicators and some further growth in the broad aggregate measures of economic activities. Now a final word, about monetary policy and credit conditions. The one factor over which the Federal Reserve has anything like complete control is the volume of reserves available to the banking system. In my judgment we have supplied -- and are now supplying -- all the reserves the banking system requires to meet the American economy's needs for credit today and to foster its further economic progress. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis JOINT BCOttOMCC OOMMf f IW T» MC. >(•) Ot» »UMJC LAW J*t. tTH August 31, 1962 Hon. William McChesney Martin, Jr. Chairman Board of Governors Federal Reserve System Washingtci D. C. Dear Chairman Martin: Ihis is in response to your letter of August 29 stat that you will probably need at least . to provide an answer to the question I raised while you were testifying, concerning proper and improper flow of funds. Frankly, I am somewhat puzzled by this advice, because when I raised this question I thought I made it clear that I vas not asking that you undertake research to develop new information or make new analyses; rather, I was asking that you supply the data that were considered, and the analyses that were made and on which Federal Open Market policy was based. If you continue to fe«l, however, that the kind of analysis for Vhich you would wish to take responsibility will require several ?}r.nths, or even several weeks, it will be necessary that we plan to piblish your analysis as a separate document. We would not wish to delay printing of the Coianittee's hearing record for any such length of time; in fact, we feel that because of the interest in this record it should be published within the next week or 10 days. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis I am Sincerely, August 29, The Honorable Wright Patman, Chairman, Joint lie oceanic Committee, Congress of the United States, Washington 25, B. C. Bear Mr* Chair* an i lou will recall that at the Joint Economic Committee's recent hearing you asked that we supply statistical information with regard to flows of funds for the past decade, together with a commentary Indicating for each period ef time whether the flow of funds was satisfactory or unsatisfactory, end our reason as to why the flow was satisfactory or unsatisfactory! and, also, what steps the Open Market Committee took in an effort to prevent or correct unsatisfactory conditions. We are presently in the process of developing seal adjustment factors for the quarterly flow of funds data, which will make it Much easier to analyse and discuss this information in terms of quarter-to-quarter changes. It wiH be highly advantageous from both the point of view of the authors end the readers if the analysis can be expressed in terms of these new seasonally adjusted figures, which should be developed within a few weeks, rather than the cumbersome unadjusted figures which require repeat* ed comparisons with changes in the same quarter of earlier years in order to describe the current quarter-to-<fuarter movements. Me would like to do a very thorough and careful job of responding to your question, both because we feel it will be help* ful to those outside the Federal Eeserve System who are interested in studying financial developments over the past decade and the role monetary policy has played In these developments, and because such a careful review will undoubtedly add to our own insight into the workings of financial markets* We will proceed as expedltioucly as possible, but we will probably need at least ninety days to provide you with the sort of painstaking analysis I am sure you want and for which we would wish to take responsibility. Sincerely yours, GEN/RLC:ac cc: Miss Muehll Muehlhaus Mr. Noyes Mr. Garden http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis V*. jfcC. K«rti», BOARD DF GDVERNDRS DF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM WASHINGTON Scmerable Wrlgtot Cbairiwua, Joist leoaofcic Cowrittee, Coagreas of the Waited State®, 25, D, €. Bear Mr. Fatness In reply to your letter of Attgust |f I as aemdlttf you tables oa Systea transact! one la U. S, Soireriisieat securities by Maturity claaa, Syates exete&gee im SreAsury refund* in^s, and Staler sales «mS purchases pf H. S. Governn»nt s«c«ritie8. fbe data OB %st«s tran4*etifi£t», shovn in th* enclosed Table 1^ cover oper»ti0B»".ts, .tli« first seven aoaths of 19&; cerr«*f©adlsg fig«re»..C^. t^'Aoatfes of 1^1 «ere publiafeea in tbe Federal EeserVe.--&£»r<l f a Annual Report for 1961 (page 132). Tfct tables...c^t';|yst«ii exc)»a^fi a»4 dealer traaaact tons corer the /«iir"i9^i'-'iftm4 tjje period to date la It siiemlil $* p$lat*a out that the f Igurea on Sy*t«j» traafiactiofis aaa those;; £a''tSealer purchases and sales are not strictly eoaparable la two respects, first, System open oarket operations, particularly la t&e shorter Maturity categories, fretuestly lav^lre dlre-et t-raasactloas with forei^a official a»3 imt©rimtion&l sccoimts as veil as transactteas vitli dealers. the feansfr trmssactloss of course are not reflected 1m the data reported by Sealers. Secoaily, the two sets of 3ata differ aligfetly la respect to their tiaiag. Thus, Dealer transactions are reported la terms of the 4ate when coasataoeat* to buy or sell were stade* wbile System @|>eratioas are recorded la terns ®f tint date when securities p\ircbase4 or sold were actually MUv*r*d*«v&lcl! say oftea Tom ®m toaslasss 4ay follovlag tie eesnl^seat. for these reas^is, iaferencee from the data eoacermtag the Syste»*s **sljareM of total oarJcet activity cannot be precise. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis -2- Tables 3 and k show an unpublished breakdown of dealer transactions between purchases and sales. Whea the publication program on the Governaent securities sarket was initiated Just over a year ago, it was with the understanding with the reporting dealers that data on purchases and sales would be published on a combined basis only. In this way it IMS felt that the public's interest in having adequate and prompt information on voluaae of trading in the market would be served. Accordingly, should the Joint Econqaic Committee want to Hake use of the data in a way involving their public release, it would be desirable for us to discuss the natter with those who voluntarily supply this inforaation. We aball, of courat, be glad to try to «a*war may <p»8tioa* tiaat th« CoaBitt«« or its staff may b*v* concerning t«ctenical or otlarr aspects of the data. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Siae*r*ly yours, (Signed) Wm. McC. Martin, Jr. W». McC. Martin, Jr. Table 1 ^FIDENTIAL (FR) OPEN MARKET TRANSACTIONS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM DURING 1962 (in millions of dollars) Month 1962 - Jan. Feb. Mar. Apr. May June July Aug. Sept. Oct. Nov. Dec. Year http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Gross purchases 5io $3$ •a, 112 " ' 5&2 1,136 ill 1,680 Outright transactions in U. S. Government securities "by maturity Total Treasury bills Others within l_year Exch. , mat, Gross RedempRedempGross Gross Gross Gross shifts, or sales tions purchases sales tions purchases sales redemption '527 616 380 " 333 622 702 : 1,20Q" 173 61 156 36 — 174 185 486 380 691 471 702 459 1,510 474 522 380 333 622 625 1,117 173 61 156 36 — 174 185 10 132 54 11 307 152 254 53 124 — -—_ 70 73 -1,307 -_ Table 1 (Cont»d.) OPEN MARKET TRANSACTIONS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM DURING 1962 (in millions of dollars) 1-3 years Month 1962 - Jan. Feb. Mar. Apr. May June July Aug. Sept. Oct. Nov. Dec. Year http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Gross purchases Gross sales , 5-10 years Exchanges Gross Gross or maturity purchases sales shift Hf 23 357 50 127 136 136 — -Hi, 30? Exchanges Gross or maturity purchases shift Over 10 years Exchanges Gross or maturity seles shift — 10 10 — 7 10 -793 +81 — — -28 — ~ -53 August 8, 1962 Table 2 Federal Reserve System Exchanges in Treasury Refundings (In millions of dollars) Month .Amount of maturing securities held 7.^ol February March?/ 3,583 350 Exchanged New or reopened issue 3-1/1$ note of 8/15/62 3-5/8^ bond of 11/15/67 Redeemed Amount 1 3,583 350 May 2,695 3% certif. of 5/15/62 3-1/1$ note of 5A5/63 1,700 700 August U,835 3-1/1$ note of 11/15/62 3-3/1$ note of 8/15/61; 3,235 November none 1,600 — 1962 February U,8C6 3-1/2$ certif. of 2/15/63 3,306 h% note of 8/15/66 1,500 May 2,16U 3-lA£ certif. of 5A5/63 2,l6U August 3,717 3-l/2fi certif. of 8/15/63 3,717 I/ Advance refunding. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis — 295 — — — — — 'August 8, 1962 Table 3 Total Dealer Purchases of U.S. Government Securities (In millions of dollars) Month 1961 Jan. Feb. Mar, Apr . May June July Aug. Sept. Get. Nov. Deco Total 1962 Jan. Feb. Mar. Apr. May June July Total 15,570 11,356 16,008 llt,23l* 15,603 Within 1 year 10,381 7,582 11,10*5 11,031 13,U90 10,912 11,532 13,630 12,026 10,971 16,614.3 13,1*93 lib 037 16,678 ll*,l*72 15, too 15,683 179A8U 11,936 12,1*82 137, UOO 1 - 5 years U,U06 3,068 3,h93 2,OU8 3,359 226 296 355 3^0 711* 821* 963 1*1*2 1*28 U23 526 297 391 i*65 695 1,581 15, ?lii 12,38U 1,796 13,51*2 13,172 13,251 557 Uio 6,U;0 1U,626 12,827 17,130 16,U72 15,537 Over 10 years 1,802 2,1*88 1,799 1,709 2,662 2,71*7 2,257 31,839 17,175 16,833 17,218 13,1*81 5 - 1 0 years 2,659 2,1*13 2,168 1,979 1,1*31 836 721 1,091 1,135 979 638 368 261 131* 22h 28U 191 356 U78 3,505 273 510 602 UU3 283 3U2 217 Note: Does not include securities received on direct allotment from the Treasury or transactions under repurchase agreements, reverse repurchase (resale) or similar contracts. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis August 8, 1962 CONFIDENTIAL Table h Total Dealer Sales of U.S. Goveriiment Securities (In millions of dollars) Month 1961 Jan. Feb. Mar. Apr. May June July Aug. Sept . Oct. Nov. Dec. Total 1962 Jan. Feb. Mar. Apr. May June July Total 18,3U9 13,211 18,50k 16,216 Within 1 year 12,982 9,235 13,721 12,961 13,118 13,615 15,181* lli,9U3 12,721* 15,675 13,977 1 - 5 years U,U67 3,28ii 3,565 2,076 17 , 810 16,38? 18,988 17,617 15,3U9 18, 8U5 18,318 17,369 iU,075 206,961 162,209 3,226 2,039 3,125 1,921 1,821 2,679 3,U27 2,300 33,930 17,876 1U,536 15,826 lU,6l6 15,878 15,325 17,337 1,687 2,657 2,351 1,797 2,617 2,027 20,589 18,625 19,620 18,059 20,127 18,819 19,786 1,1^5 5-10 years Over 10 years 636 k26 838 821 1,059 26U 266 379 358 U07 253 133 225 396 213 U93 U81 5U6 529 U08 277 U21 U39 6,880 3,9U3 720 871 80li 1,186 1,371 1,111 691 306 561 638 U59 261 357 273 555 Note: Does not include redemptions of Treasury issues or transactions under repurchase agreements, reverse repurchase (resale) or similar contracts http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 5, t **• ******** t5, t- vitft «U of voliM of tswdis* lay Tour oo«pci«tioft •a «*rXy tet* vlll hM.riBf t acxt r on tte M Op*s Mixtet «M>Urt tki» lafb»»ttdii at tt^ vlU http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis JAHO OF OOVKMNOMM OT THE rCDCft -'VC «Y«TCM Augus Margaret; Miss Reagan called and left this messa Mr. Hayes told Mr. Martin that Mr agreed to try and get some part of Mr. Hayes 1 testimony in a closed session. After Mr. Mar left Mr. Hayes' office, Mr. Dillon called back and had been in touch with some of the members of the Patman Committee and it was agreeable with them to have part Mr. Hayes' testimony in a closed session. The way they visualize it now, both Mr. Marand Mr. Hayes will be on in the open session Thursc morning, and Mr. Hayes might be called back in the afternoon for a closed session. Before this, Mr. Hayes was to be on in the morning, and Mr. M to be on in the afternoon. Miss Reagan went on to explain that Mr, Hayes thinks some part of his testimony should be heard in closed session and th«' iat they are going to ; and arrange, but it will change the tirnt Martin will testify. rr, ALSO, Mr. Roosa had invited Messr es, M a r t and Coombs over to the Treasury to have lunch on Thursday. However, because of the above turn of events, it will probably be impossible for M; s to join the other gentlemen. ( August 22, 1962 Board of Governors Subject: Hearings before Joint Economic Committee From Robert L, Car.dron before lowing closed mainly This memorandum covers the final sessions of the hearings the Joint Economic Committee on the state of the economy, foltestimony last week by Federal Reserve witnesses. The hearings this morning, after three days of testimony this week devoted to antitrust and monopoly questions. Secretary of the Treasury Dillon appeared last Friday, and, in response to questioning, made several points that may be of interest to you. First, he said a gold guarantee, as proposed by earlier witnesses, would be "a very poor idea" because it is not needed in the light of assurances already given by the President and would "question his word", and because it would be unfair to American citizens, some of whom would "try to ... shift their funds abroad , . . (to) get the same sort of guarantee." Second, he made several comments about longterm interest rates. He said he thought the recent offering of U-l/U per cent bonds would have been more successful if there had been more than "one day's notice and then one day's sale" and that the Treasury in future long-term issues "probably ought to give the public two or three days to make up their minds." He resisted efforts to get him to say the Federal Deserve should buy more long-term bonds, but agreed "it would do no harm" and said if this were done, the purchases should be in the five-to-ten-year area. He indicated that long-term interest rates are now at "a reasonable level". He said it would not discourage long-term borrowing by foreigners in the United States to raise the long-term rate. On the other hand, he said the short-term rate is "very significant" in short-term flows abroad and that the Treasury has engaged Professor Cannon of Columbia University to make a study of this question. He denied Senator Proxmire's contention that long-term rates have risen faster than short-term rates in I960 and 1961, commenting that (l) the important long-term rates from the standpoint of stimulating the economy are the private corporate bond rate, municipal bond rate, and the mortgage rate; (2) the rate on long-term U. S. bonds is "relatively immaterial;" (3) the Federal Reserve cannot "effectively influence long-term money rates" because only $2$ billion in U. S. bonds is outstanding compared to hundreds of billions of other long-term obligations; and (U) the corporate bond rate is now only 1±/10 of one per cent higher than the rate on U. S.lo^g-term bonds (as compared to as much as one per cent in the past), and this stimulates the economy. Yesterday morning Mr. Edwin G. Nourse (former Chairman, Council of Economic Advisers 19U6-1914-9) was asked about the editorial appearing in yesterday's Washington Post which criticized Chairman Martin's statements regarding deficit financing through bank credit. In response to Senator Bush's questions, Mr. Nourse indicated that http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis he "decidedly" approved Chairman Martin's stand on this question. Senator Proxmire then said that Chairman Martin "has never taken" the "dogmatic position . • . that you will never finance the Federal deficit to any extent through the banking system"* Senator Proxmire said that Chairman Martin "was very clear here the other day in saying that he would not take" that position. Mr. Nourse agreed that the Federal Reserve is wise not to take an extreme position either way on financing deficits and said "they are right at the present time in following a somewhat tighter money policy than certain factors in the economy think is desirable." cc: Each Board Member Mr. Young Mr. Molony Mr. Fauver Mr. Knipe Mr. Noyes Mr. Kenyon http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis August Ik, 1962 To Board of Governors From Robert L, Cardon Subject: Hearings before Joint Economic Committee The official death certificate having been issued for the 1962 tax cut, a hard core of the Joint Economic Committee members settled down today to discuss monetary policy with three economists: Lawrence S. Hitter, Professor of Economics, New York University, Graduate School of Business; Beryl W. Sprinkel, Vice President, Harris Trust and Savings Bank, Chicago; and J. M. Culbertson, Professor of Economics and Commerce, University of Wisconsin. Senator Javits opened the interrogation with a brief reference to the now departed tax cut, intended to establish that it may have met with foul play. He then departed himself, leaving further interrogation to Messrs. Patman, fteuss, Proxmire, and Pell. Senator Proxmire expressed a deep sense of satisfaction in hearing three witnesses so ably present views coinciding so closely with his own. TO give you the flavor of the discussion, I cannot do better than follow Senator Proxmire1 s suggestion that your attention should be called to the following excerpts from hr. Culbertson1 s prepared statement: "....There are means of correcting balance-of -payments disequilibrium other than protracted deflation of the income or prices of any country. Students of such matters took it for granted that the postwar international financial system would explicitly avoid any such reliance upon deflation. However, the emotional gold-standard thinking that wrought such havoc upon the world in the 1920 's and 1930f s with its mystical attachment to high interest rates and deflation seems, despite the clear lessons of that period, to have reasserted itself with alarming force. The grip of this dogma and the habitual errors of Federal Heserve monetary policy are the principal impediments to the reachievement of full prosperity in the U. S. economy. "Would monetary restriction plus tax reduction produce prosperity?— Since our present situation seems to impose upon us a conflict between policy objectives, it is now commonly suggested that we, in effect, mount our charger and ride off in both directions, that we maintain our restrictive monetary policy— or go further and set about to raise interest rates — in deference to our balance of payments disequilibrium while reducing taxes in the hope that this will improve employment. The chances that such a program http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis "would bring us to full employment seem to me extremely small, and the chances that it would lead us to an intol* erable plight seem rather substantial. I think that the implications of any effort through Federal Reserve policy to raise U.S. interest rates are not widely appreciated.11 Mr. Sprinkelfs prepared statement was less colorful, but, in response to questioning, he agreed with Mr. Culbertson that the money supply has not grown fast enough. Both men criticized the Federal Reserve for becoming too preoccupied with short-run credit conditions and not paying enough attention to long-run growth in the money supply.- Both firmly rejected the notion that time and savings deposits should be includ ed in the money supply. Mr. Hitter said he was not willing to criticize the Federal Reserve "quite as much as my colleagues would or as I think you (meaning Mr. Reuas) might." He wasn't so sure recent monetary policy has been restrictive, and was tolerant of efforts to shore up short-term rates, although skeptical of their efficacy. He was alarmed, however, at recent, indications the Federal Reserve and the Treasury may have decided to raise long-term rates as well; such a decision could only flow from a readiness to accept a recession in order to protect our gold stock. All three witnesses agreed on the need for greater flexibility in exchange rates, greater ingenuity in seeking solutions other than high interest rates in dealing with our balance of payments problems, and better coordination of fiscal and monetary policies. They felt it would be not only foolish, but impossible, to stimulate the domestic economy with expansionary fiscal policy while protecting our gold with restrictive monetary policy. Senator Proxmire asked why we should not include time and savings deposits in measuring the money supply, and was given four reasons by Mr. Culbertson: First, they bear interest and money doesn'tj second, the Federal Reserve can create demand deposits, but not time and savings deposits5 third, growth in time and savings deposits does not stimulate the economy (citing experience in I960 and 1962); finally, if time and savings deposits were counted, yeu should also include other liquid assets. Senator Proxmire then turned to "Operation Nudge11, asking the witnesses to comment on Chairman Martin's position that the Federal Reserve could not buy long-term bonds more heavily without destroying the market for them. iir. Culbertson responded by elaborating on his prepar* ed statement, to the effect that "Operation Nudge" makes no sense, because the Treasury has sold more long-term bonds than the Federal Reserve has bought. Mr. Ritter, uncharitably intimating that this answer was not responsive, changed the question to read "Would this be pegging the market and would that be interfering with free market forces?" He then answered http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis -3by denying that this would constitute pegging the market and affirming that the function of the Federal Reserve is to interfere -with free market forces. Senator Pell then entered the discussion, somewhat diffidently;. explaining he was trying to grapple with the fundamentals of this complex subject. He asked how important interest rates are in producing recessions or booms, Mr. Pdtter replied that "Now you're starting to divide the panel." He said no one is too sure of the answer, because the Federal Reserve has neglected fundamental research into the effesls of monetary policy, but he felt interest rates have less effect than Messrs, Culbertson and Sprinkel think. Mr. Culbertson followed with the comment that interest rates are not so important as money supply; that failure to expand the money supply can produce a recession that will bring very low interest rate.-, iir. Sprinkel added that there is considerable evidence of the importance of growth in the money supply in producing economic growth. cc: Each Board Member Mr. Young Mr. Molony Mr. Fauver Mr. Knipe Mr. Noyes Mr. Kenyon http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis c • August 13, 1962 To Board of Govepwtfrs X "\ From Robert L, Cardon /\\K Subject: Hearings before Joint Economic Committee The Joint^oncmicjSommittee heard this morning from three European witnesses suggestions as to how the United States should deal with the "dilemma" posed by the necessity for higher economic growth on the one hand and correction of our balance of payments deficit on the other hand. The witnesses (Ettore Lolli, Central Director, Banca Nazionale dol Lavoro; Jurg Niebans^ Professor of Economics, University of Zurich| and Alan Day, Professor of Economics, London Schcol of Economics) agreed on one thing: the advisability of the United States furnishing foreign holders of dollars with some form of guarantee against devaluation^ They proposed furnishing gold certificates to foreign dollar holders, including private holders as well as central banks, in exchange for dollars. The Treasury would guarantee to redeem these certificates in dollars at a rate sufficient to cover any devaluation which might occur after the certificate was acquired. Mr, Patman remarked that the guarantee suggestion appealed to him very much and that he intended to ask Treasury and Federal Reserve witnesses for their views on the suggestion when they appear later before the Committee. In response to questioning by Senator Sparkman and Senator Proxmire as to why fears of devaluation persist in Europe, the witnesses stated that many Europeans fear the Treasury may be forced to suspend gold sales in some future crisis even though today the President and the Secretary of the Treasury are stating in good faith that there will be no devaluation. They felt that the issuance of gold certificates would fill the need for actions by the United States rather than mere statements of intention to maintain the gold value of the dollar. In explaining why the United States may have to suspend gold sales, ixir. Lolli said that a gentle men' s agreement exists among central banks to refrain from exchanging dollars for gold and that "you can't rely on gentlemen's agreements." Mr. Niehans1 statement to the Committee referred to the recent exchange swap between the Federal Reserve Bank of New York and the Swiss National Bank as a good example of "exchange rate guarantees between Central Banks . e.° creating a new type of dollar, that is, dollars free from exchange risk." Mr. Reuss commented that he was "fascinated" by this swap arrangement and that it is "very new and radical" because it is the first instance of a guarantee against devaluation furnished by the United States. He said it was "ironic" that the Committee must get a Swiss witness to tell them what the Federal Reserve is doing in this field The witnesses—between them—managed to make it clear (at least to some of the reporters, if not to Mr. Reuss) that there is nothing radically new about guarantees in connection with these swaps. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis -2- Mr, Curtis questioned the witnesses1 assertion that the United States faces a dilemma. He agreed that the balance of payments deficit is a serious problem but stated that the other horn of the dilemma does not exist; that is, he believes that economic indicators do not properly reflect the growth that has occurred in our economy. He feels most of our capacity that is idle is capacity that is obsolete in the sense that if it were more fully utilized we would be producing goods for which there is no demand. He feels that efforts to expand production at existing plants would block needed steps to retrain workers and modernize equipment. Mr. Lolli's statement asserted that there is no need to fear "a budget deficit within certain limits and provided that it is financed from savings with little resort to bank credit." In response to questioning by Senator Proxmire, Mr. Lolli conceded that the United States economy today differs from that of Italy in many respects, including the greater danger of inflation in Italy,and that, therefore, there is less need to finance deficits from savings in the United States than in Italy. The witnesses all seemed to agree that balance of payments considerations call for at least no reduction in United States' interest rates, although there was difference among them as to whether any increase would be desirable. Mr. Niehans advanced the thesis that monetary policy should be concentrated solely on dealing with our balance of payments problems and that fiscal policies should be used to provide any needed stimulus to the domestic economy. This view was not received with enthusiasm by any of those members of the Committee presente Senator Froxmire, in particular, seemed more interested in other methods of dealing with our balance of payments problem. These other methods included repeal of the gold cover requirement (which was recommended by Mr. Day in his formal statement ); reduction of Government spending abroad; more flexible exchange rates (which Mr. Day's formal statement advanced as the "most desirable policy"); and limiting foreign access to our capital markets (Mr. Niehans1 formal statement suggested that it might be advisable to control the placement of long-term bond issues in the United States by foreign borrowers), Mr. Niehans said that approval of the Swiss National Bank must be obtained before floating such issues in Switzerland, and suggested that approval by the Federal Reserve be required in this country. The following members of the Committee were in attendance at the hearing this morning: Messrs. Patman, Reuss, Sparkman, Griffiths, Proxmire, Curtis, and Bush. cc: Each Board Member Mr. Young Mr. Fauver Mr. Molony Mr. Knipe http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Mr. Noyes Mr, Kenyan August 10, 1962 To Board of Governors From Robert L. Garden / X \ //\WA \ Subject: Hearings before Joint Economic Committee Yesterday morning trre^J-oifit Economic Committee heard three economists blame Government fiscal policy for choking off economic growth, Mr. Eckstein (Professor of Economics, Harvard University) and Mr. Pechman (Director of Economic Studies, The Brookings Institution), impatient with the delay in cutting taxes, tried to exorcise the evil spirit of the balanced budget, Mr. McCracken (Professor of Economics, University of Michigan) called for reductions in taxes and Government spending. Yesterday afternoon Leon Keyserling told the•Committee we need an immediate tax cut, plus easier money. He characterized current monetary policy as a declaration of war against the American people. His solution for our balance of payments deficit is a higher growth rate. Raymond Saulnier, on the other hand, saw no need for a tax cut. As to monetary policy, he contented himself with a warning against tightening money to aid the balance of payments. Tightening credit, he felt, would not solve the problem and might jeopardize recovery; other measures, such as reducing military costs abroad, should suffice. This morning featured a varied witness panel. Mr. Livingston (Financial Editor, Philadelphia Bulletin; nationally syndicated columnist) said the tax structure should be overhauled next year to restore incentive, not to produce a deficit (although he will accept a temporary deficit, if necessary). Mr. Ruttenberg (Director, Department of Research, AFL-CIO) concentrated on the need for a temporary ^5> billion tax cut now. Mr. Hagedorn (Director, Research Department, National Association of Manufacturers) recommended tax cuts—within the framework of a balanced budget— to stimulate plant modernization and improve profits. Mr. Langum (Consulting Economist,, and President of Business Economics, Inc., Chicago) presented an analysis of corporate profits, without making policy recommendations. Mr. Patman's view that the Administration and Congress should exercise greater control over monetary policy is not new, of course, but he is using two recent developments to dramatize it. First, Chairman Martin's statement of July 1?> to the House Banking and Currency Committee, to the effect that budget deficits should be financed primarily out of savings rather than out of bank-created credit was described by Mr. .Patman this morning as an announcement that the System would give a tax cut "a Russian veto". Second, Mr. Vjeston (Professor of Economics, University of California, Los Angeles), on the first day of these hearings, urged a tax cut as needed to counteract restrictive monetary policy. When Senator Proxmire questioned this, Mr. Weston explained that he meant Congress traditionally had not exercised control over monetary policy, so, as a practical matter, Congress should take the only other alternative available to http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis -2- it and follow a stimulative fiscal policy. When Senator Proxmire reminded Mr. Weston that the Constitution gives Congress power over monetary policy, Mr. Weston asked why they don't exercise it. Mr. Patman described this interchange this morning as follows: "Mr. Weston told us he wasn't going to talk to us about monetary affairs because we didn't have anything to do with it.11 Mr. Patman commented that Federal Reserve officials think they're not responsible to Congress or the people, that each member of the Federal Open Market Committee—the most powerful group on earth—thinks he "is responsible only to his own conscience and God." This is not fair to the President, says Mr. Patman. Mr. Curtis is continuing his effort to show that a deficit will not stimulate the economy if it is financed by savings. This drew the response today from Mr. Ruttenberg that he would be right if it were financed by the sale of E-bonds, but that this is unlikely. A more likely possibility, Mr. Ruttenberg says, is that the deficit would be financed by commercial banks. At that point, he says, the Federal Reserve should supply reserves to replace those used by the banks to buy Government obligations. He says this does not amount to pegging interest rates—just keeping free reserves at an appropriate level. Mr. Curtis, nevertheless, expressed disappointment that witnesses are not discussing in their prepared statements the problems in debt management and the balance of payments that a budget deficit would cause. Senator Douglas, yesterday, argued that monetary policy is too restrictive, on the following basis. Free reserves, which averaged #$00 million or so in 1961, have averaged <^37£ million during 1962. But a level of $375? million really means free reserves are "practically nonexistent" because (l) they are concentrated mostly in country banks, which account for a small portion of bank loans, and (2) vault cash is counted now as reserves. """-* cc: Each Board Member Mr. loung Mr. Molony Mr. Fauver Mr. Knipe Mr. Noyes Mr. Ke.:».yon http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis August 9, 1962 To Board of Governors From Robert L0 Cardon Subject: Hearings before Joint Economic Committee The Joint Economic Committee1s current hearings on the "State of the Economy and Policies for Full Employment" opened with three separate statements of purpose„ Chairman Patmarils was brief and broad, indicating a judicious readiness to receive and consider any suggestions for improving our economy0 Senator Bush sounded a note of greater urgency. He felt the Committee should probe deeper than such "ripple-on-the-strsam" questions as a tax cut, down into the darker mysteries of "how to get the country moving again." Senator Proxmire, on the other hand, had a ready answer for our troubles: the "high-interest, slow-down" policy of the Federal Reserve, and challenged any witness to justify it. The first two days of the hearings have been well attended by Members and the press. Ten of the sixteen Members have been present at one time or another, with Messrs, Patman, Douglas, Reuss, Proxmire, Bush, Curtis, and Javits, taking the most active part. While much of the testimony end questioning has centered so far around an immediate tax cut, two other themes seem likely to attract increasing attention as the prospects of a tax cut this year fade. Patman, Douglas, Heuss, and Proxmire are trying to demonstrate that the balanceof-payments deficit is no excuse for tight money, which is choking off growth. Bush and Curtis, on the other hand, evidently want to show that the Administration's deficit spending programs lie at the root of the trouble. At its opening session, Tuesday, August 7, the Committee heard four economists. Three of them favored a tax cut for various reasons. Mr* Suits (Professor of Economics, University of Michigan) felt our economy lags because of "tight tax brakes" properly applied during World War II and Korea but harmful now. Mr. Weston (Professor of Economics, University of California at Los Angeles) felt a tax cut is needed to counteract restrictive monetary policy resulting from balance-of-payments problems. Mr. Wishart (Research Director, Amalgamated Meatcutters and Butchers of North America) said taxes should be cut for the lower income groups to stimulate consumer demand. Only Mr. Ellis (Economist, du Pont de Nemous & Co.) expressed reasonable satisfaction with the state of the economy. At its second session, yesterday morning, Mr. Greenwald (Director of Research, McGraw-Hill Publishing Co.) said business investment in plant and equipment should continue to expand; with other sectors neutral or favorable, he saw no need for a tax cut. Mr. Katona (Professor of Economics, University of Michigan), on the other hand, recommended a tax cut to create a freer-spending psychology among consumers. Our own http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis -2- Miss Dingle presented the data just collected for the Quarterly Survey of Consumer Buying Intentions for July, leaving broader policy judgments to others, Yesterday afternoon^ Chairman Heller of the Council of Economic Advisers summed up the prospects for the economy as follows: "A continued period of modest upward movements or leveling off is one reasonable possibility. We experienced this in 1956-57, with gains in output just large enough to prevent a significant rise in unemployment. But we cannot rule out the alternative possibility that the recent slowdown in the expansion represents advance warning of an economic decline,," In any case, he called for action on proposals already submitted to the Congress by the President, to strengthen the performance of an economy !Tstill operating considerably short of its potential." These include standby tax cut authority, expansion of public works, and liberalizing unemployment insurance. He straddled the question of a tax cut this year, but said "the basic case for easing the net tax drain on the economy, as well as the broad principles which should guide tax reduction, are reasonably clear in the light of our unsatisfactory economic experience of the past five years." His remarks on monetary policy are quoted more fully at the end of this memorandum^ but two points stand out. First, he said a "careful balance must be struck between bank and nonbank financing" of deficits so as not to "Thwart or nullify the expansionary effect of budget measures in an economy with excessive unemployment and excess capacity." Second, he said monetary policy is more restrictive than desirable for the domestic economy, but this is necessary because of the balance-of-payments deficit. In the questioning so far, only one Member of the Committee (Senator Javits) has expressed disappointment over the Administration's failure to recommend a tax cut this year. Senators Douglas, Proxmire, and Pell have expressed flat opposition to cutting taxes now, and Senator Bush and ivir, Curtis give strong indications of opposition without expressly committing themselves. Other points of special interest to Committee Members are listed below: 1. Patman: Should the Federal Reserve keep the power to frustrate ("sabotage") expansionary policies of the Administration? 2. Douglas: Since the economy is faltering, shouldn't the Federal Reserve apply the traditional remedy of monetary ease, leaving a tax cut in reserve for a rainier day? 3» Douglas: What evidence is there of interest rate differentials leading to capital outflows? (He sees covered rate differentials as favoring us or neutral). U. Curtis; Eow could a tax cut stimulate the economy if there is a budget deficit? Government borrowing will nullify the tax cut unless the deficit is financed with bank credit created for the purpose, and he trusts the Federal Reserve will not create the reserves to finance it that way. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis -3£. Curtis: Why was there no increase in the labor force from June 1961 to June 1962? Doesn't this indicate unemployment is worse than the figures show? 6. Proxmire: Do higher interest rates have any significant impact on our balance of payments or loss of gold reserves? (He cites various statements coming from Federal Reserve sources as showing they do not.) 7* Proxmire: Does the Treasury's recent decision to offer a long-term bond issue indicate that the Administration has decided to join the Federal Reserve in pushing up interest rates (and long-term rates at that)? Excerpts from Heller's testimony on monetary policy: u lc At a time when the Federal budget was becoming progressively less expansionary in its net impact on the economy during the 196162 recovery, monetary policy remained easy, partly through conscious effort of the monetary authorities, partly because expansionary forces have not been as strong as expected, and partly because 1961-62 may mark the end of a rising trend — related to inflationary expectations — in interest rates. "2. Balance of payments and gold outflow considerations currently demand a more restrictive monetary policy than would be desirable from the standpoint of the domestic economy. To this extent, fiscal policy must be more expansionary than would otherwise be necessary in order to promote domestic economic expansion and narrow the excessive gap between our economic performance and our economic potential. Indeed, closing this gap can play an important role in building long-run confidence in the dollar, As the steps currently being taken to eliminate the balance of payments deficit and strengthen our international monetary position achieve their objective, the curbs on our freedom to use monetary policy to meet the needs of the domestic economy will be progressively reduced. "3. Any move toward sizable tax reduction must, of course, be accompanied by a willingness to move toward higher interest rates if this should prove to be necessary (a) to discourage any adverse capital flows that might develop, or (b)"to offset any inflationary'^pressures that might ensue "^ if- the rebound toward full employment should profcfe to be unexpectedly rapid. "U. If budget deficits are incurred, the method of financing them must be carefully adapted to the prevailing economic circumstances. A careful balance must be struck between bank and non-bank financing, a balance which will not thwart or nullify the expansionary effect of budget measures in an economy with excessive unemployment and excess capacity, but will prudently shift Federal debts into non-bank hands as the economy comes close to or reaches full employment. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis -h"Summing up, let me say that relative monetary ease has facilitated economic expansion in the recovery of 1961-62) that even greater ease would have been possible in the absence of international payments pressures; that those pressures throw an additional burden on fiscal measures as part of a co-ordinated economic policy for full employment and faster growth; and that care must be exercised not to overcompensate for such international monetary pressures by premature or excessive tightening of credit and interest rates." cc: Each Board Member Mr, Young Mr. Molony Mr. Fauver Mr. Knipe Mr. Noyes Mr. Kenyon http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis This article is protected by copyright and has been removed. 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Article Title: Patman Slates Hearings on Money Policy Journal Title: Washington Star Date: August 1, 1962 http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis ( STARK - 5171 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Thursday, August 16, 1962 CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES JOINT ECONOMIC COMMITTEE Joint Economic Committee Announces Additional Witnesses for Hearings on State of the Economy and Policies for Full Employment Rep. Wright Patman (D., Texas), Chairman, Joint Economic Committee today announced the Committee's hearing agenda for Friday, August IT, 19&2, and Monday and Tuesday of the following week, August 20 and 21. In addition to testimony from Secretary of the Treasury C. Douglas Dillon on Friday morning, as previously announced, the Committee will hear on Friday afternoon Hon. Ewan Clague, Commissioner of the Bureau of Labor Statistics, Department of Labor, on the subject of changes in the size and composition of the labor force. Beginning next week the Committee will hear witnesses on the relationships between inadequate competition and monopoly in the market place and the nation's failure to maintain maximum employment, production, and purchasing power. Mr. Patman said "the Committee's hearings would fall short if we considered only improvements in monetary, tax, and other fiscal policies as a means of achieving full employment and a better rate of economic growth. Government actions in these fields can not substitute for competition, because, in a free enterprise system vigorous competition must be the main force working for full employment of our resources and for prompt adjustments in resource uses following changes in technology and consumer demands." http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis (MORE) 2. Hon. Lee Loevinger, Assistant Attorney General in charge of antitrust, Department of Justice, will be the first witness on competition problems and will discuss the Department's first report of identical bids to be made under Executive Order No. 10936. This order was issued on April 2k, 1961, following adoption of a resolution by the Joint Economic Committee suggesting that President Kennedy issue such an order, and the first report to be released has been in preparation for more than a year. The agenda is as follows: Friday afternoon, August If, 2:00 o'clock, in the District of Columbia Committee Hearing Room, Room~6226, New~Senate Office Building (Changes in the Size and Composition of the Labor Force") EWAN CLAGUE, Commissioner of the Bureau of Labor Statistics, Department of Labor Monday morning, August 20, 10:00 o'clock, in the Atomic Energy Committee Hearing Room, Room AE-1, The Capitol — (Competition Policies for Maximum Employment, Production and Purchasing Power) LEE LOEVINGER, Assistant Attorney General in Charge of Antitrust Division, Department of Justice Tuesday morning, August 21, 10:00 o'clock, in the Atomic Energy Committee Hearing Room, Room AE-1, The Capitol — (Competition Policies for Maximum Employment, Production and Purchasing Power) EDWIN G. NOURSE, former Chairman, Council of Economic Advisers 1946-19^9 ALFRED E, KAHN, Professor of Economics, Cornell University WALTER ADAMS, Professor of Economics, Michigan State University EIOHARD J. BARBER, Professor of Law, Southern Methodist University Tuesday afternoon, August 21, 2:00 o'clock, in Room AE-1, The Capitol - http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis (Possible continuation of morning witnesses) ( END ) STARK - 5171 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Friday, August 10, 1962 CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES JOINT ECONOMIC COMMITTEE Agenda for 2nd Week's Hearings Rep. Wright Patman (D., Texas), Chairman, announced today the witnesses scheduled for appearance during the second week of the Committee's hearings on the state of the economy and on policies for achieving maximum employment, production, and purchasing power, as follows: Monday morning, August 13, 10:00 o'clock, in the Atomic Energy Committee Hearing Room, Room AE-1, The Capitol — (Fiscal and Monetary Policies with Particular Reference to the European Experience) ETTORE LOLLI, Central Director, Banca Nazionale del Lavoro JTJRG NIEHANS, Professor of Economics, University of Zurich ALAN DAY, Professor of Economics, London School of Economics Monday afternoon, August 13, 2;00 o'clock, Room AE-1, The Capitol Possible continuation of morning witnesses. Tuesday morning, August lU, 10;00 o'clock, in the Caucus Room, Old Senate Office Building, Room 318 — (Monetary policies) http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis LAWRENCE S. RITTER, Professor of Economics, New York University, Graduate School of Business EBRXL W. SPRINKEL, Vice President, Harris Trust and Savings Bank, Chicago, Illinois J, M. CULBERTSON, Professor of Economics and Commerce, University of Wisconsin (MORE) 2. Tuesday afternoon, August lk, 2;00 o'clock, in the Caucus Room, Old Senate Office Building, Room 318 — (Balance of Payments and International Funds Flow) FREDERICK H, KLOPSTOCK, Manager, Research Department, Federal Reserve Bank of New York SAMUEL PIZER, Assistant Chief, Balance of Payments Division, Department of Commerce DOS HUMPHREY, Professor of Economics, Fletcher School of Lav and Diplomacy, Tufts University PHILIP BELL, Professor of Economics, Haverford College Wednesday morning, August 15, 10;00 o'clock, in the Atomic Energy Committee Hearing Room, Room AE-1, The Capitol — (Monetary Policies and Methods) MARRINER S. ECCLES, former Chairman, Board of Governors, Federal Reserve System, and Chairman of the Board, First Security Corporation, Salt Lake City MALCOLM BRYAN, President, Federal Reserve Bank, Atlanta Wednesday afternoon, August 15, 2;00 ofclock, Room AB-1, The Capitol Possible continuation of morning witnesses Thursday morning, August 16, 10:00 o*clock, in the Atomic Energy Committee Hearing Room, Room AE-1, the Capitol — (Monetary Policies and Methods) ALFRED HAYES, President, Federal Reserve Bank, New York WILLIAM McCHESNEY MARTIN, Jr., Chairman, Board of Governors, Federal Reserve System Thursday afternoon, August 16, 2:00 o'clock, Room AE-1, The Capitol Possible continuation of morning witnesses Friday morning, August 17, 10;00 o'clock, in the District of Columbia Committee Hearing Room, Room 6226, New Senate Office Building C. DOUGLAS DILLON, Secretary of the Treasury http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis (END) STARK - 5171 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Tuesday, August 7, 1962 CONGRESS OP THE UNITED STATES JOINT ECONOMIC COMMITTEE Economic Committee Announces Witnesses Si > for Hearings on atfl of the Economy and Policies for Full Employment J V_X First Week >resentative Wright Patman (D., Texas), Chairman, announced today the witnesses who are scheduled to appear at the first six sessions of the hearings on the State of the Economy and Policies for Full Employment: Tuesday morning, August 7, 10:00 o'clock — State of the Economy IRA ELLIS, Economist, duPont deNemours & Co. DANIEL B. SUITS, Professor of Economics, University of Michigan J. FREDERICK WESTON, Professor of Economics, University of California, Los Angeles JAMES WISHART, Research Director, Amalgamated Meat Cutters and Butcher Workmen of North America Wednesday morning, August 8, 10;00 o'clock — State of the Economy DOUGLAS GREENWALD, Director of Research, McGraw-Hill Publishing Co. MONA E. DINGLE, Economist, Board of Governors, Federal Reserve System GEORGE KATOM, Professor of Economics, University of Michigan Wednesday afternoon, August 8, 2;00 o'clock -- State of the Economy http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis COUNCIL OF ECONOMIC ADVISERS: WALTER W. HELLER, Chairman KEKM1T GORDON, Member GARDNER ACKLEY, Member - 2- Thursday morning, August 9, 10:00 o'clock -- Fiscal Policy OTTO ECKSTEIN, Professor of Economics, Harvard University PAUL W. KcCRACKEN, Professor of Economics, University of Michigan JOSEPH A. PECHMAN, Director of Economic Studies, The Brookings Institution Thursday afternoon, August 9, 2:00 o'clock -- Fiscal Policy LEON H. KEYSERLING, Economic Consultant, Washington, D.C. RAYMOND J. SAULNIER, Professor of Economics, School of Business, Columbia University Friday morning, August 10, 10:00 o'clock — Fiscal Policy GEORGE G. HAGEDORN, Director, Research Department National Association of Manufacturers JOHN K. LANGUM, Consulting Economist, and President of Business Economics, Inc., Chicago JOSEPH A. LIVINGSTON, Financial Editor, Philadelphia Bulletin; Nationally syndicated columnist. STANLEY H. RUTTENBERG, Director, Department of Research, AFL-CIO Hearings will be open to the public, in the Atomic Energy Committee Hearing Room— AE-1, The Capitol Witnesses for succeeding sessions "will be announced at a later date. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis (END) Johnson - 5171 FOR A.M. RELEASE SUNDAY, August 5, 1962 CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES JOINT ECONOMIC COMMITTEE Joint Economic Committee Announces Witnesses for Hearings on State of the Economy and Policies for Full Employment Representative Wright Patman (D., Texas), Chairman, announced today the witnesses who are scheduled to appear at the first three sessions of the hearings on the State of the Economy and Policies for Full Employment: Tuesday morning, August 7j 10:00 o'clock — State of the Economy IRA ELLIS, Economist, du Pont de Nemours & Co. DANIEL B. SUITS, Professor of Economics, University of Michigan J. FREDERICK WESTON, Professor of Economics, University of California at Los Angeles. JAMES WISHHART, Research Director, Amalgamated Meatcutters and Butchers of North America. Wednesday morning, August 8, 10:00 o'clock — State of the Economy DOUGLAS GREENWALD, Director of Research, McGraw-Hill Publishing Co, GEORGE KATONA, Professor of Economics, University of Michigan. Wednesday afternoon, August 8, 2:00 o'clock — State of the Economy COUNCIL OF ECONOMIC ADVISERS: WALTER W. HELLER, Chairman KERMIT GORDON, Member GARDNER ACKLEY, Member Hearings will be open to the public, in the Atomic Energy Hearing Room, AE-1 in The Capitol. Witnesses for succeeding sessions will be announced at a later date. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Stark - 5171 FOR A.M. RELEASE WEDNESDAY, August 1, 1962 CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES JOINT ECONOMIC COMMITTEE Joint Economic Committee Announces Hearings on Fiscal and Monetary Policies Rep. Wright Batman (D., Tex.), Chairman, announced today that the Joint Economic Committee will begin hearings next week on policies for achieving full employment. The minority members of the Committee have requested hearings•on the state of the economy, Mr. Batman said, and several of the majority members have also requested hearings on what should fce done to improve matters, if anything. Our purpose will be to cover both subjects and to consider, in a related way, what the trends in the economy are and what changes in fiscal or monetary policies, or both, are needed to stimulate employment and economic growth. Mr. Batman said that Committee members feel that some of the basic questions needing answers are: Have monetary and tax policies prevented full employment? To what extent do artificial restrictions on the growth of private credit reduce prices and wages or merely reduce employment of labor and machines? How much is the deficit in our balance-of-payments affected by the flow of bank funds to and from foreign countries? What are the practical alternatives to the policy of raising domestic interest rates to levels of those in Western Europe? Are tax cuts needed to bring about full employment? http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis (MORE) 2. Would the effects of a tax cut be wiped out by changes in monetary policies? What would be the effects of a tax cut accompanied by a cut in Federal spending, as compared to a tax cut without a cut in Federal spending? What kind of tax cuts, if any, would so stimulate the economy that a deficit would be avoided? What kind of tax cut is most likely to have a wholesome effect on the economy in the long run, when the Federal budget is balanced or in surplus? To achieve full employment and a more rapid expansion of productive capacity, should the first step be to increase the Nation's rate of savings or to raise family living levels? The Committee will look into the trends in personal and corporate liquidity and in the flow of funds to families, businesses, savings, consumption; and to what extent there has been a profit squeeze. Mr. Patman said that the Committee will try to obtain facts and expert analyses, not just air the policy stands of organized banking, industry, and labor groups. Witnesses will be announced later this week; hearings will be open to the public. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis (EHD) August 27, 1962 Dear Wilfred: . Thank you for sending me the Commercial and Financial Chronicle and I axn glad you appreciate the quotation you used. With all good wishes, As always, Wm. McC. Martin, Jr, Mr. A. Wilfred May, Executive Editor, The Commercial and Financial Chronicle, 25 Park Place, Hew York 7, New York. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis MEMORANDUM A. WIL .ED MAY Executive Editor Liear Bill: — Besides this cover page, ...lease nots ay citation of your tesimony on r. 4 ( " of "toe week") The COMMERCIAL and FINANCIAL 25 PARK PLACE http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis CHRONICLE • NEW YORK 7.N.Y. REctor 2-9570 4 (804) Tne Commerci OBSERVATIONS. BY A. WILFRED MAY SWISS BANKER'S VIEWS ON THE DOLLAR (In Pessimistic Dissent) Arresting indeed is Switzerland's up-dated overflowing gold and monetary situation. With her gold holdings amounting to 10.6 billion Swiss francs and the note circulation reaching 7.4 billion francs, the cover of the note circulation aggregates 142%. The bank note circulation and all short-term liabilities of the central bank are covered by 114% in gold and foreign exchange. But for the international monetary situation, Switzerland could at any time return to issue gold coins. Meanwhile, the Swiss franc is based on gold only; the Central Bank is at any time prepared to sell gold to foreign central banks; and trade in gold coins is free to everybody. The Dollar's Contribution Authoritative word from Switzerland attests to the fact that this situation stems directly from dollar distrust, with over $275 million having flowed into Switzerland since early June — this needed capital inflow having been sufficient to over-balance this supposedly "rich" country's adverse current account and appreciable capital exports. This most recent capital inflow has more than doubled the volume reached during the international ''confidence crisis" in October 1960, when the London gold price rose to $40. Accordingly, a leading Swiss central banker in a letter to Mr. David Rockefeller commenting on the Chase Manhattan Bank president's exchange of views with President Kennedy published in Life magazine, reports that "the distrust against the dollar in European circles has taken proportions never known before." Detailing this conclusion on the situation leading to the two dollar-franc Swap arrangements with the New York Federal Reserve Bank, the Swiss authority goes on: "From all over the world orders to convert dollar balances into Swiss francs have reached our banks. Domestic and foreign bank http://fraser.stlouisfed.org customers sold TT Q c.~~*,~:+: ^ Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis (Aug. 16), we pointed out the virtue of illiquid property, as art, in a declining market, in providing its owner emotional relief through ignorance about "what's going on" price-wise.. By way of "P. S." we suggest to the interested, by way of comp r o m i s e between the hyperliquidity of the Stock Exchange a n d the quite complete nonliquidity of the art market, the over-the-counter securities market. Values in that area tend to be enhanced by the liquidity-enchanted public's prejudice against issues that are not Exchange listed—that is, of inflating the premium paid for listing's advantages. S u c h listed - versus - unlisted price disparity is evidenced even in the case of the over-thecounter market's high-grade Blue Chippy issues in the portfolios of institutions and investment companies. The "value discount" in the fund category is importantly caused by the managers' "window dressing" urge to confine their portfolio displaying to the "more respectable" E x c h a n g e-listed issues. COMPARATIVE EARNINGS YIELDS A group of 55 leading over-thecounter industrial stocks extensively appearing in the portfolios of the institutions,* are currently available at an average priceearnings ratio of 14.3 versus 18 on the Dow Jones Industrial Average, and 16.7 on Standard & Poor's Average of 425 Industrials—and also versus the 15-times earnings "sound value" yardstick expounded by Messrs. Kennedy and Dillon. This Counter group includes such representative issues as Time, Inc. (at 13.5 times earnings), Warner & Swasey (8.5), Sprague Electric (13) Grinnell (8), etc. Thus there is revealed another demonstration of the substantial premium charged for stock market liquidity! A "P. S." ON THE LIQUIDITY FETISH are intended only to facilitate observation of the current market, and the sales are repeated later in their correct chronological order. "The Exchange's p r e s e n t ticker prints at a rate of 500 characters, or the equivalent of 100 words, a minute—the speed of the fastest commercial telegraphic printers today. But realizing that this speed is not sufficient to keep up with anticipated 6 to 10 million share days in the future, the Exchange has worked with equipment manufacturers for a number of years to develop a faster ticker. Based on technological advances, a new 900-character tape printer is scheduled for o p e r a t i o n in 1964." Thus we see the constant speeding-up of the Exchange's reporting mechanisms and accelerated trading activity following each other in a Vicious Circle. rele doll mai cou inc abo cen pro doll dec OF THE WEETO "I sometimes wonder though* gros if we have not become overly proi sensitive to cyclical indicators val —we read, watch, study, and the talk about thsm so much that ser U'g may have become like p r( medical students who acquire h a; each disease as they read dou about its symptoms in their 1950 textbooks. We ought to rerate member that, while leading dow indicators have correctly foreN told some recessions, they fact have also on occasions given rate pcrtents of recession that did grov net occur." — From Statement ecoi by Chairman William McC. Iwou Martin, Jr., of the Federal hilli Reserve Board, before the » lion. Joint Economic Committee^^'ther Aug. 16. coul This realistic depiction of the an4 hypochondriac attention paid to the Indicators (in the economic °bso rather than the political category) r is particularly worthy in the light trv of the economy's current stubborn C°U1 refusal, once again, to follow that ln supposedly greatest indicator of * them all, the stock market; or °[ur even to conform to the President's ^ pictureseque post-Crash description of the economy as "running Bu out of gas." $23 t perfc Cherokee Sees. SRCIAL and FINANCIAL ftONICLE Reg.U.S.Pat. Off. New York 7, N. Y., Thursday, August 23, 1962 Duntry n pros that Cxecuing of camine of i this dn to early /orite i reqist of much there nary and lown and i be ! SO- ;n a /hat itely nust and are cern iem9. In ; our •t is, •ge 25) Price 50 Cents a Federal Reserve's Credit Policy The Past, Present and Future; By William McChesney Martin, Jr.,* Chairman of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System Central banking chief, stressing adequacy of banking system's supply of reserves for today's credit needs, rejects easier credit policy for stimulating the economy. Asserting that credit has perhaps actually been too easy in the past, Mr. Martin urges financing of deficit through real savings in lieu of short-term bank credit. Finds business conditions improved in July over June, with betterment continuing in early August; and expects mixed movement for awhile. Suggesting our over-sensitiveness to cyclical indicators, Mr. Martin forecasts further growth in the broad aggregate measures of economic activities. Much in the recent flow of statistical information has indicated a definite loss of momentum in the pace of economic expansion. This was particularly true of the June reports. In that month, there were declines in durable goods orders, average hours of work at factories, retail sales and housing starts, and only small gains in industrial production, employment and personal incor ,e. Altogether, the impression of slowdowns seemed well confirmed. There has been a popular tendency to view the various signs of slowdown as foreshadowing an imminent upper turning point in the economic cycle. Judged from the perspective of cyclical indicators, which in the past have shown a W. McC. Martin, Jr. tendency to run ahead of the over-all data, this view has perhaps been reasonable. I sometimes wonder though if we have not become overly sensitive to cyclical indicators—we TVT TcurnTCTW ATTOXT — Tin http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis read, watch, study, and talk about them so much that we may have become like medical students who acquire each disease as they read about its symptoms in their text-books. We ought to remember that, while leading indicators have correctly foretold some recessions, they have also on occasions given portents of recession that did not occur. In June, our economic data were subject to certain special influences and, if allowance is made for these, the situation does not appear so persuasively discouraging as appeared at first sight. Thus, using up the inventory accumulated in anticipation of a steel strike that did not occur affected not only new orders for steel but also employment and hours of work in the steel industry, and unemployment claims in steel centers. The steel industry is so large that declines in that one industry can at times result in declines in over-all manufacturing orders, employment, hours of work, and many other measures of economic activity. Observers who simply count the pluses and minuses among the cyclical indicators run the risk of being overly influenced by the reflections of a decline in one industry, not of cyclical origin, showing up several times in their lists of unfavorable omens. In addition to the steel situation, though of less importance, a strike at some auto plants affected production and sales in June. The adverse effect of this on the June data should not be interpreted as being of cyclical significance. Nevertheless, the June showing as a whole was not strong. And it certainly made clear that the economy was moving ahead more slowly than the optimistic goals widely discussed at the turn of the year. From data now available for July, the economic situation appears improved. The unemployment rate was down slightly, non-agricultural employment rose somewhat further, and labor market data were definitely encouraging in another res p e c t : t h e y showed a (Continued on page 28) rlpalprs and investor* in r»nrnnrat«> 1 Miss Muehlhaus Professor J. M. Culbertson School of Commerce The University of Wisconsin Madison 6, Wisconsin. Dear Professor Cuiberteon: ; Thank you. for sending me a copy of your statement to the Joint Economic Committee last week. As you suggest, your view is somewhat at variance with mine, as is evident from my statement to the same Committee, a copy of which is enclosed. I agree with you on a number of points, however, and I certainly feel, as I am sure you do, that better understanding of the magnitudes involved in measuring monetary growth and continuous reappraisal of what constitutes adequate monetary growth is vital. Everything that you can do as a research economist and as an articulate member of the academic coxa-* m unity to further our understanding of this perplexing problem is all to the good. I know that you understand better than some of your colleagues that the Board and its staff have no desire to insulate themselves from the point of view expressed in your paper. In fact, quite the opposite is true. I hope that we will he able to arrange some opportunities for an exchange of views around the table with you and others interested in the formulation of monetary policy in the months ahead. Sincerely yours, :NED) WM. McC. McC, Martin, Jr. Enclosure (8/16) GENink cc: Miss Muehlhaus http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Miss Muehlhaus August Z4, 1962 Dr. Lawrence S. Ritter Graduate School of Business New York University 100 Trinity Place Hew York 6, New York. Bear Professor Ritter: It was thoughtful of you to send me a copy of the text of your statement to the Joint Economic Committee during its recent hearings. In the light of your expressed concerns, I am sending in return a copy of my own statement in which I tried, at some length, to spell out my views on some of these matters. You may be especially interested in the latter half of the statement, which treats with the topics of the relationship of domestic and international considerations and of deficit financing, With kindest regards, Sincerely yours, Wm. McC. Martin, Jr. Enclosure (8/16 statement) CLF:nk cc: Miss Muehlhaus t(**i « M?lS REMARKS OF THE HONORABLE DOUGLAS DILLON SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY BEFORE THE JOINT ECONOMIC COMMITTEE FRIDAY, AUGUST 17, 1962, 10:00 A. M. , EOT The performance of the economy has already been reviewed by previous witnesses. As you know, there have been substantial gains in domestic employment and production over the past 18 months, plus clear progress toward restoring balance in our international accounts. You are also aware that the margin between our productive potential and the current rate of business activity is still far too wide to permit complacency. Unemployment at 5.3 percent, although much improved, is still at an unacceptably high level. And, if we are to maintain a secure foundation for the dollar and for vigorously expanding trade among nations, the deficit in our balance of payments must be eliminated. Thus, the major task of economic policy is to facilitate a step-up in the pace of domestic expansion at the same time that we reinforce our program for achieving equilibrium in our international payments. ! There is no basic conflict between these twin goals of rapid growth at home and balance in our foreign payments. The key to both is the fuller and more effective use of our unmatched human and physical resources. We must produce more and better goods and services with greater efficiency, and we must have markets — domestic and foreign — adequate to absorb our output. This requires that our productive plant and machinery be modernized and expanded. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis The skills and initiative of our workers - 2must be better channeled into constructive effort. Domestic demand must also grow to provide markets for increased productive capacity. And foreign markets must not be closed to us — either by insurmountable tariff barriers, or by increases in our own price level. The financial policy of the Federal Government will be one of the vital factors in shaping our progress toward these ends over the years ahead. Within our over-all financial policy, tax policy can play a particularly important role. Federal income taxes today absorb fully 15 percent of our total national income. they are levied — The sheer size of these taxes and the way the tax rate schedules, their application to different sources of income, the maze of special provisions all exert a pervasive influence on economic activity. — It is the joint responsibility of Congress and the Executive, while raising needed government revenues, to use the taxing power constructively to facilitate progress towards our goals of full employment, rapid growth, and stable prices. It has become apparent in recent years that some elements of our tax structure are impediments in our path to those goals — impediments that in many cases can, and should, be removed. Four distinct problems have urgently called for reform: 1. Our tax structure has placed a heavy burden on the productive investment so vital to the growth process. 2. The current rate structure siphons off so large a http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis _ 3 fraction of the increased income generated by business recovery that forward momentum is dissipated before full employment and full utilization of industrial capacity can be reached. 3. Overly high rates of individual income tax interfere with the economic process. Energies and resources are diverted from the business at hand and concentrated on minimizing tax burdens through the use of a patch work of special deductions and exclusions, built up over the years to lighten the burden of our onerous rate structure. 4. Our tax system today lacks provision for flexible and timely adjustments to meet swiftly developing changes in the over-all level of economic activity. One of the major objectives of this Administration has been a tax environment more conducive to business investment in new equipment. As a first step toward this objective, the Treasury has overhauled depreciation guidelines within the framework of existing law. generation — This reform — the first thoroughgoing review iti a recognizes fully the impact of swiftly changing technology on the economic life of equipment, and permits individual businesses to establish schedules in keeping with objective measures of their own replacement practices. Depreciation deductions permitted for manufacturing machinery and equipment will be increased by an estimated 17 percent from existing practice; http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis _ 4 the current tax load will be lightened by an estimated $1.5 billion the first year; and administrative procedures will be greatly simplified. Although the result, in terms of stimulating new investment, cannot be gauged precisely, the reaction of the business community to this long-needed reform has been extremely favorable. These realistic depreciation schedules must be supplemented and reinforced by other measures, however, if we are to provide incentives for investment within our tax structure comparable to those available in the other leading industrialized countries. These further incentives — generate — and the increased investment they will are necessary both to spur growth at home and to main- tain and improve our competitive position in world markets. The proposed 7 percent investment tax credit, incorporated in the Revenue Act of 1962 already passed by the House of Representatives and approved by the Finance Committee of the Senate, represents the minimum we must do to keep up with our competition from abroad. All of our foreign competitors provide special tax inducements of one sort or another over and above realistic depreciation in order to promote the modernization and expansion of business investment. We must do as much if we are to compete on equal terms. This is clearly indicated by a table I am submitting for the record. You will note that, even with the 7 percent credit, as reported by the Senate Finance Committee, our treatment of new investment will be less generous than many of our foreign http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 5competitors. Its early enactment is essential to narrow the gap and is also of great importance in sustaining and accelerating the current economic expansion. The President has announced that a comprehensive program of tax reform — including a general reduction of both individual and corporate rates, effective January 1, 1963 — for action early next year. will go to the Congress In developing this reform program within the Administration, we are particularly conscious of the need to achieve a tax structure that will both increase consumer demand and provide new incentives — business — both to individuals and to while also providing for an appropriate surplus of revenues over expenditures when the economy is operating at acceptable levels of employment and plant utilization. The economy over the past five years has been marked by two recessions, as well as a persistently excessive level of unemployment. That record provides ample evidence of the drag on growth inherent in our current tax structure. Today, many of the special expansionary forces that marked the private economy during the first decade of the postwar period are no longer with us. The tax system that was appropriate during the inflationary postwar epoch is now too onerous. Too much potential purchasing power is diverted from the spending stream1 a"s a business recovery develops, dampening economic activity long before full employement is approached. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis The end result is that recovery bogs - 6down at some level of output well below potential — and instead of the theoretical large surplus that would be generated at full employment, we find ourselves with .farther deficits. Part of the solution to this problem can be found in reducing the total tax load on the economy. Another part can be found by developing a tax structure that will increase private initiative and productive investment. their level — The structure of taxes — as well as affects incentive^ to work, to invest, to cut costs, a and to produce efficiently. Thus tax reform is just as important as tax reduction. Such a program necessarily involves a loss of revenue in its first year of application, but this initial loss of revenue should be soon recouped as our economy moves ahead. It should be looked upon as a necessary down payment on economic growth, more jobs, and higher standards of living and greater opportunity for all Americans. More rapid growth will hold and attract funds here that might otherwise be invested abroad, and rising investment will make our producers more competitive in world markets. Both of these effects will serve to improve our balance of payments. Fear of deficits is deeply rooted in our thinking — and that fear has its basis in the fact that deficits have sometimes led to excess demand and inflation. But in today's economic environment — far from being a source of dangerous inflationary pressures — our deficit reflects our idle plant capacity and our overly large http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 7unemployment rolls. A temporarily larger deficit under these circumstances is a reasonable price to pay for a program of basic tax reform and tax reduction designed to spur output and promote full utilization of our human and physical resources, a program that promises over the years to generate increased government revenues as a result of increased output. Finally, even with the enactment of such a program, we will also need a measure of tax flexibility, in order to strengthen our arsenal of tools to combat cyclical down turns. Legislation providing this flexibility, patterned on a recommendation of the Commission on Money and Credit, has been submitted to the Congress by the President. Its enactment would strengthen our ability to handle future down turns. Monetary and Debt Management Policy, which affects the cost and availability of credit, is another area in which the Federal Government can exert a powerful influence on economic developments. The main responsibility for monetary policy lies, of course, with i the Federal Reserve. But the Treasury — largely through its management of the public debt — can also significantly influence the cost and availability of funds. Difficult and new problems have arisen in this area over the past 18 months. On the one hand, the Federal Reserve and the Treasury together — and I want to emphasize the continuous cooperation and close working relationships that have developed http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 8between these agencies — have had a common interest in assuring the availability of an ample supply of funds to finance domestic investment. But we are also alert to the potential danger of investors shifting their funds abroad in search of higher returns • thereby increasing our balance of payments deficit. Fortunately, rates for top-grade short-term securities — the part of the rate structure which is the most important in international capital flows — also have the least significance from the standpoint of domestic business conditions. Therefore, within the limitations imposed by a free and fluid domestic market for credit, we have sought to encourage an active flow of funds into productive long-term investment, while maintaining a competitive equilibrium with foreign markets in the short-term area. For this reason a large portion of the funds injected into the market by the Federal Reserve since February, 1961, have taken the form of purchases of approximately $3.4 billion of securities maturing in more than one year, rather than short-term bills, as had been their usual practice in the past. At the same time, the Treasury increased the volume of its own debt outstanding in the under one-year maturity area by nearly $14 billion. With the short-term rate structure supported in this manner, the Federal Reserve has been able to supply the banks liberally with reserves throughout the recovery period, and thereby to maintain an atmosphere of credit ease and ample availability. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis _ 9 At the same time, the Treasury, through flexible use of advance refundings and other sales of intermediate and longer term securities during propitious market periods, has been able to •i • improve its over-all debt structure without impeding the flow of funds into productive long-term investment. The results have been gratifying. Rates for Treasury bills, which never fell below 2-1/8 percent during the recession months of 1961, have risen to the 2-7/8 to 3 percent area. This has been necessary in order to keep pur rates roughly competitive with the rate structure in foreign markets — after allowing for the fluctuating cost of forward exchange cover. At the same time, the interest rates of key importance to domestic growth and investment -r for mortgages, bank loans, corporate bonds, and state and local government securities — have generally remained close to, or even dropped below, their recession lows. Mortgage rates, in particular, have declined, slowly but almost steadily, for more than a year, and market rates for government-insured mortgage loans now average more than 1/4 percen t below the levels prevailing at the trough of the recession a year and a half ago. Local government borrowing costs in recent months have been at the lowest levels since mid-1958. Moreover, funds are freely available at these rate levels in all sectors of the market. Far from drawing back on new commitments, banks and other lenders have continuedi to offer liberal credit terms and to actively seek out potential borrowers. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 10 - The contrast with other recent periods of expansion is striking Rates in all sectors of the market are well below the postwar peaks reached in 1959; 18 months after the recovery began, banks are still liberally supplied with funds for new loans; and there is no lack of credit availability. As we move ahead in financing our current deficit, we will naturally be concerned to maintain a balanced structure of Federal debt. That means we must be able to continue to tap a cross section of the funds becoming available in the market — from individuals and long-term investment institutions as well as from banks. But, it is not part of our policy to press ahead with long-term financing to the extent of jeopardizing the flow of funds necessary to support an expansion of business investment. Any changes, during the coming year, in the level of long-term interest rates will reflect a natural response to changing levels of business activity, and not any rigid preconceptions regarding the appropriate method of financing our current deficit. it represent a blunt effort — futile — Nor will which I believe would be quite to crowd out of the long-term market some marginal amount of foreign borrowing — borrowing that in any event is attracted more by our unrivaled market facilities than by relatively small differences in the total cost of the credit to the borrower. The Balance of Payments; Over the longer-run, as I have said, our ability to maintain equilibrium in our international balance of http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 11 payments will reflect our success in achieving more rapid increases in productivity, a favorable climate for new investment, faster growth, and stable prices in our domestic economy — precisely the objectives we are seeking in our tax reform program and in credit policies. But, for the present, after more than a decade of deficits, we cannot afford to wait idly by until these longer-run solutions take hold. Instead, we must intensify our efforts through other means to restore balance as promptly as possible. Our balance of payments accounts are beginning to show some of the fruits of the measures we have taken. The over-all deficit, which averaged $3.7 billion between 1958 and 1960, was reduced to $2.5 billion in 1961 and, during the first half of this year fell further, to an annual rate of $1.5 billion. Part of this recent improvement resulted from the temporary Canadian difficulties, but more basic factors have also contributed. For instance, the net drain from our mutual defense program is being significantly narrowed — reflecting additional military procurement in the United States by our allies, as well as our own economies in overseas spending. Current outlays for economic aid also reflect our efforts to furnish this assistance in the form of American goods and services. Perhaps most significant for the longer-run, our exports have climbed to a new record level — thanks in large part to the virtual stability of the prices of our manufactured goods since 1958. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Although imports have also - 12 risen — an expected response to higher levels of business activity -• our trade surplus has improved over the second half of 1961. Efforts to lessen the balance of payments impact of our overseas expenditures and to stimulate our exports are being stepped up. One evidence of our determination to reduce Government spending overseas to the minimum necessary is the recent development under the aegis of the Bureau of the Budget of a government-wide control system for international transactions. This requires the quarterly submission by all agencies, whose transactions affect the balance of payments, of a detailed report of past results, as well as of detailed estimates running one year into the future. This system provides, for the first time a regular and orderly procedure for the special review and control of these outlays. Each item is being subjected to close scrutiny, and unless adequately justified in terms of over-all priorities, is promptly eliminated. The institution of this close control over the spending which affects our balance of payments should lead to substantial savings in the future. j Secretary McNamara has established as a target the reduction of net military spending abroad to $1.6 billion for fiscal 1963, and to $1.0 billion by fiscal 1966. $2.6 billion or more. This compares with a previous With the full cooperation of our allies, these targets can be reached without in any way impairing our defense position. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 13Our export program should soon receive additional impetus as the result of a number of measures — including the recent appointment of an over-all Export Coordinator in the Department of Commerce. This official is charged with the responsibility of reviewing and expediting our total export drive, working with both industry and Government to assure the best use of our recently improved facilities and assistance programs for exporters. Meanwhile, our defenses against the potential shocks and strains that can come from sudden and large-scale shifts of liquid funds — whether arising from speculative or other pressures — have been greatly strengthened. The agreement reached last December by the industrialized countries to supplement the regular resources of the International Monetary Fund with additional credit facilities of $6 billion has now been ratified by 7 countries and will become effective as soon as the United States itself completes the necessary legislative action. Apart from that agreement, the Treasury and the Federal Reserve, acting in close cooperation with each other and with responsible foreign officials, have made steady progress in arranging facilities for acquiring convertible foreign currencies. These currencies, in turn, may be flexibly employed to absorb dollars passing into foreign hands as a result of our payments deficit. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis While still in a "pilot" stage, enough has already been - 14 learned from this experience to suggest that these facilities can potentially provide an entirely new dimension to our defenses against disturbances in the international monetary system. Taken together, the financial program and policies I have outlined here today will make a major contribution to our economic goals. But I should also emphasize that these policies cannot however wisely considered and implemented — — do the job alone. They are no substitute for responsible wage bargaining and pricing practices, for measures to maintain active competition among producers, for better educational and research facilities, or for all the other ingredients of dynamic growth with stable prices. But, it is equally true that without well considered tax reform, monetary, and debt management policies flexibly attuned to the facts of our internal and external position, and intense efforts to restore balance of payments equilibrium, the prospects for substantial progress toward a better life for all our citizens in the years ahead would be seriously impaired. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis oOo Comparison of depreciation deductions, initial and investment allowances I/ for industrial equipment in leading industrial countries with similar deductions and allowances in the United States Representative tax lives Belgium Canada Years 8 10 Depreciation deductions, initial and investment allowances (percentage of cost of asset) • First year • : First 2 years : First 5 years 22.5 30.0 ^5-0 44.0 92.5 71.4 France 10 25.0 43.8 76.3 West Germany Italy Japan Netherlands Sweden United Kingdom Average, 9 foreign countries United States: Practice prior to 7/11/62 With new depreciation guidelines ' With new depreciation guidelines and investment credit 2/ 10 10 16 10 5 27 20.0 25.0 43.4 26.2 30.0 39.0 29.0 36.0 50.0 51.0 49.6 51.0 46.3 46-3 67.2 100.0 68.2 85.6 100.0 64.0 80.6 15 12 13.3 16.7 24.9 30.6 51.1 59.8 12 29.5 42.5 69.6 Office of the Secretary of the Treasury Office of Tax Analysis August 13, 1962 I/ The deductions and allowances for each of the foreign countries have been computed on the assumption that the investment qualifies fully for any special allowances or deductions permitted. The deductions in the United States have "been determined under the double-declining balance depreciation method,,without regard to the limited first-year allowances for small business. 2/ For purposes of this table, the 7 percent investment credit has been considered as equivalent to a Ik percent investment allowance. For corporation subject only to the 30 percent normal tax, for instance, it is equivalent to an investment allowance of 23 percent. Allowance has been made in these calculations for the adjustment to basis in the amount of the credit as provided in the bill as reported by the • Senate Finance Committee. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis STATEMENT OF ALFRED HAYES, PRESIDENT FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF NEW YORK BEFORE THE JOINT ECONOMIC COiMTTEE OF THE CONGRESS AUGUST 16, 1962 Mr. Chairman and members of the Committee: The United States has achieved, thus far in 1962, a substantial expansion in domestic economic activity as well as a further improvement in its international payments position. During the first half of 1962, production, employment, and incomes all achieved record levels. Available data for July clearly indicate that the expansion is continuing. Never- theless, it must be admitted that progress in speeding up the country1s rate of economic growth has been less rapid than many of us considered possible at the beginning of the year, and in our international accounts we cannot be satisfied until the balance of payments gap has been eliminated. Economic performance must be appraised not only against the past, but also against what might be achieved if we made reasonably full use of human and material resources. Measured by this latter yardstick, our recent performance cannot be rated wholly satisfactory. Although the percentage of people out of work has dropped substantially during the current upswing, I do not question that we must aim for a more ambitious target. In short, unemployment has been and remains too high. Business outlays on new plant and equipment must expand sharply if the economy is to move into higher ground. Business investment has in fact rebounded smartly from its recession lows, but in this vital area, too, the rate of improvement has been short of the need. An important stimulus has now been given to business investment by a revision in the http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis -2depreciation schedule, and another would be provided by the enactment of the investment credit proposal now before Congress. These changes, and the promise of reduced corporate tax rates next year, are desirable not only as likely to produce expansion in the economy but also as a means to achieve greater productivity and lower costs in an increasingly competitive world market. We are concerned that the forward thrust of the economy has been losing some of its force, even if one excludes from consideration the temporarily depressing effects of the unraveling of the steel situation. On the other hand, the generally stable level of prices, coupled with unused industrial capacity at home and ready availability of goods from abroad, has militated against the accumulation of large inventories as a hedge against shortages and higher prices. The fact that we have avoided excessive inventory accumulation during the current expansion is encouraging, since it diminishes the danger that such accumulation might set off a recessionary movement or contribute to such a movement if the business tide should turn for other reasons. Throughout the current business expansion, and despite some criticism at home and abroad, the Federal Reserve has maintained conditions of monetary ease. As a matter of fact, an examination of business annals is unlikely to produce another example of a strong recovery proceeding so far in an atmosphere of ready availability of credit. Large amounts of bank reserves have been made available, more than offsetting the losses resulting from the gold outflow. Banks remain comfortably liquid and anxious to lend. Bank holdings of mortgage loans and municipal obligations spurted by a total of &6 billion over the first seven months of the year, http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis ( —3— more than during any other similar span of time. Instalment lending has also increased substantially. At the same time, loan demand and security flotations by business borrowers have been disappointing, despite the fact that interest rates for such credit are little changed from those prevailing at the trough of the recession. One important reason for the lackluster performance of bank lending is the moderate business demand for inventories. A look at the volume of reserves supplied by the System, together with the maintenance of a relatively high level of free reserves since the beginning of the recession should be persuasive evidence that the Federal Reserve authorities have been consistently replenishing reserves which the banks have put to work. It is true that the money suppljr—narrowly defined as checking accounts and currency—has increased comparatively slowly of late, but this development has to be viewed together with an unprecedented spurt in commercial bank time and savings deposits. Such deposits, which for most holders provide almost as much financial maneuverability as checking accounts, have spurted by .#10 billion, or 12 per cent, so far this year. The public1s holdings of short-term United States Government securities, which can be readily turned into cash, have also expanded substantially. So long as the shortfall of economic activity from wrhat I regard as a reasonable goal persists, it seems to me that monetary policy should properly remain concerned with maintaining the maximum degree of credit ease consistent with its other objectives. At the same time, we must keep in mind that attainment of our economic goals depends on many factors, of which credit and monetary conditions, over which the central bank exerts direct influence, represent http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis -4only one—though an important—element. The job of instilling new vigor into the business expansion must, I believe, be done largely by means other than monetary policy. I should like to turn now more specifically to developments in our international position. The balance of payments, as you know, has shown some needed improvement in the first half of 1962. However, a part of the improvement, although by no means all of it, has occurred because of a temporary flow of funds, now reversed, from Canada to the United States as pressures developed on that country's currency. It is therefore clear that unremitting efforts to make further progress in reducing the over-all deficit remain the order of the day. The Administration, as you are aware, is pursuing a multi-pronged attack on the problem, including an export promotion program, reduction of military spending abroad, negotiations for both additional foreign defense purchases in this country and a wider sharing of aid to underdeveloped countries, and further "tying" of U. S. aid to those nations. Right now, as well as over the longer term, emphasis must be kept upon increasing the competitiveness and productivity of the U. S. economy. For this reason, the recent record of lower unit wage costs has been most welcome, especially at a time when wage pressures continue strong in Western Europe and elsewhere. Bringing our international payments into balance and keeping them under close control is a necessary condition for protecting the dollar's position as the world's leading currency and as the keystone of a stable international currency and payments system. The rebuilding of foreign monetary reserves and the redistribution of international gold http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis -5reserves have resulted in a decline in our gold stock and in a rapid rise of foreign short-term claims on the U. S, These short-term claims are like money in the bank to those that own themj and, just as any of us would, they look to the banker, the United States, to provide assurance that the bank is being managed wisely. If we expect people to keep their money in U. S. dollars we must give them both confidence in the soundness of our currency and some inducement to stay with us, rather than moving to another currency or to gold* It is for this reason that the System has cooperated in efforts to avoid unnecessarily low short-term interest rates and thus to reduce disruptive short-term capital outflows and their actual or potential effects on our gold stock. In this connection, I should like to emphasize my strong conviction that if we achieve a balance in international payments and avoid actions that damage confidence, our gold stock is ample for our requirements both as a major trading nation and as bankers for the world. I was surprised, by the way, that several witnesses have proposed to this Committee that the United States extend a "gold guarantee" to foreign holders of dollars. I wish to emphasize my strong conviction that such a guarantee would be an exceedingly harmful measure, besides being ineffective. In my judgment, this type of "protection" -would be illusory and, in any case, is not warranted in view of the Government's determination to maintain the gold price and to take the basic measures needed to assure attainment of this objective. Indeed, a guarantee would merely becloud this larger issue. The potential of monetary policy in protecting a currency against sudden speculative pressures is well recognized; hence Federal Reserve policy http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis C C -6- must reirain flexible and prepared to deal with any contingency. Vie should try to avoid conditions of excessive credit ease that make reserves so ample that our banks and other lenders are induced to seek more remunerative outlets abroad because credit availability greatly exceeds domestic loan demands. Rate differentials are an important, but not the only, reason for international capital movements. For instance, the sheer size, efficiency and ease of access of our capital and short-term credit markets constitute a strong attraction to foreign borrowers. And, as you know, a variety of rate differentials are involved, both hedged and unhedged, while their respective significance in pulling in or repelling money may change over time. The Federal Reserve System has to be continuously alert to the pressures on the dollar which may arise from rate and credit developments, or from any other cause. In essence, the challenge to monetary policy in recent years has been to provide an adequate availability of credit to support a sustainable growth of our economy while guarding against a spilling over of excess liquidity into channels that would weaken the international position of the dollar or renew inflationary pressures domestically. Meanwhile, the external defenses of the dollar have been strengthened so that monetary policy will not be overburdened while more basic balance of payments adjustments are still taking place. Such a strengthening would have been required, it might be added, even without a U, S. payments problem. Convertibility has greatly increased the volume and volatility of internationally movable funds; this is a natural consequence of the considerable degree of our success in approaching the kind of http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis -7world we have been seeking to achieve since World War II. Nevertheless, it does mean that proper resources must be at hand to meet sudden shifts of funds and pressures that may be expected to be temporary. There is encouraging evidence that this problem can be handled through such avenues as the activity of the Treasury and the Federal Reserve in the exchange markets, the increasingly close central bank cooperation of the past 18 months, and the IMF expansion agreement (still requiring final Congressional action, of course), which will vastly enlarge our access to currencies that we may need. Official U. S. exchange operations undertaken so far have basically been designed to protect the U. S. dollar against disturbingly large pressures at a time when we are making steady progress toward bringing our balance of payments into equilibrium. Treasury operations in convertible currencies began in the spring of 1961 when the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, acting for the Treasury, undertook operations in the market for German marks designed to deal with the abnormal conditions that had developed following the revaluations of the German and Dutch currencies in March 1961. This operation was followed by other Treasury transactions in Swiss francs, Italian lire and Dutch guilders, which are continuing up to the present. The Federal Reserve System, with the full concurrence of the Treasury, concluded that the central bank of this country should play a more active and direct role in defending the international value of the dollar. The Federal Open Market Committee therefore authorized the Federal Reserve Bank of New York on February 13, 1962, to undertake transactions in foreign currencies for System Open Market Account in accordance with the Committee's instructions. Since that time the System has acquired a substantial amount http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis -8of convertible foreign currencies, primarily through a series of reciprocal currency agreements with foreign central banks, and has begun to use these resources in defense of the dollar. The possibility of acquiring substantial amounts of foreign currencies through such currency swaps with foreign central banks rests upon a mutuality of interest. That interest is to make the present international financial system, under which world trade and investments are expanding rapidly, work reliably and efficiently. Therefore countries relying upon the dollar as an important part of their international reserve assets are glad to participate in arrangements that reduce the possibility of temporary and capricious pressures on the dollar. Furthermore, since currency swaps and standby agreements are tantamount to a mutual credit facility, foreign countries as well as ourselves obtain access to additional resources in case of need. Over the years ahead, these arrangements can also make a useful contribution to world liquidity needs. In carrying out exchange transactions for both the Treasury and the System, we have made a point of establishing the closest and most harmonious possible relations with foreign central banks—an indispensable requirement when working in the exchange markets for their currencies. We have found that, with this cooperation, our use of foreign currency resources has in fact been effective; we have helped to strengthen the dollar in the exchange markets, reduced cumulative or snowballing speculative flows, and eased the immediate impact upon the U. S. gold stock of foreign central bank accumulations of dollars. You will realize that official U, S. exchange operations rest upon the assumption that the pressures they have to meet are of a temporary http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis ( r -9- and transitional nature. In a number of important instances, this has already turned out to be the case so that the commitments undertaken could be liquidated without a gold loss. be taken for granted. Such success, however, cannot In particular, an indefinite continuation of large U, S. payments deficits would assure that the pressure upon the dollar becomes permanent rather than temporary. Hence, these exchange operations in no way detract from the urgency of our task in correcting the payments deficit. Furthermore, while the initial development of close international cooperation has clearly been stimulated by the very strains it is designed to combat, foreign countries are counting upon us, as we are counting upon them, to take the national actions necessary to make certain that such strains upon any one currency will in fact pass. Thus far we have met to a remarkable degree the challenge of harmonizing the domestic and international aspects of our financial policies, I believe we have the needed flexibility to continue to meet this challenge under the changing conditions that may confront us. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis ( For Release on Delivery STATEMENT OF MALCOLM BRYAN, PRESIDENT OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF ATLANTA, BEFORE THE JOINT ECONOMIC COMMITTEE AUGUST 15, 1962 Gentlemen: It is flattering to have been asked to appear before you today. After an examination of conscience, however, I find my sense of self-esteem greatly reduced by the necessity of confessing that I have no new figures and no new and revealing of old figures. arrangement I think I should also confess--and this is done out of no sense of false modesty--that I do not know the answers to the problems that beset us. At the moment, without trying to support the point with figures, it seems to me that we are churning around at a high level of economic activity, perhaps even edging upward a little, all without going anywhere in a hurry. Whether this slowdown in our rate of expansion will be followed by a break-out on the upside, with continued recovery, or on the downside, I do not know; but I am sure that when the facts are in, it will appear to everyone, including myself, that I ought to have known. Let me state a few convictions for whatever they may be worth: http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis r - 2- 1. If we break out of this pause on the downside, there is no presently visible, objective, rational reason why the period of ad- justment should be long and deep. It will only be long and deep if we take counsel of our fears and frighten each other into panic. If we do this, then we are stupid. 2. It is inevitable, in the normal misjudgments of human beings, especially when correct judgments are made the more difficult by a long inflationary cycle such as this country has had, that there will appear a thousand and one misapplications of capital and manpower that find a less-than-expected market for their products and services. It is possible, to be sure, that we shall be unpleasantly surprised by the magnitude and extent of the adjustments that may be necessary. I myself believe that they are of a size and magnitude small enough that our dynamic economic system can accommodate itself to them. What chiefly scares me is that we shall attempt to overmanage the economy, wherein I think our last case may well be worse than our first. What is continuously needed is not a single adjustment but a myriad of adjustments. These can only be made by a flexible economy whose decisions related to manpower and capital are under the day-to-day guidance of f r e e consumer and f r e e investor choices. I realize that an economy guided by a free market is often an uncomfortable thing to have around; a free market often seems to behave miserably. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Unfortunately, in my judgment, there is no substitute for it. ( r . - 3 - So I bespeak my conviction that we should at this time be guided by two general philosophies: a. Speaking simply as an American citizen, I think we should see to it that the pains of readjustment do not fall with overwhelming and degrading force on the unemployed, which is the tragic and classic locale of most of those pains. I believe we are bound in con- science not to let that happen. b. Again, speaking simply as an American citizen, I believe we should do the things we know that Government can do and do well. We should see that competition is maintained in all sectors of the economy; .we should see that the consumer is protected against the sharp practice of an occasional scoundrel; we should see that he is protected in those areas where his quality judgments do not suffice. Even, if I dare say it, I think we should strive studiously to avoid rigidities introduced into the economy by Government itself. After that, I believe we shall be well advised to give the free market economy a chance to adjust itself before we intervene with massive medications. I shall make a slight further allusion to this point in a minute or so. Now, as for monetary policy. As I see it, monetary policy in most of the postwar period can be interpreted around a few simple ideas. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis First of all, we have been striving to bring inflation to an end, but to bring it to an end so gently and so gradually that American businesses, individuals, governments, and the managers of savings institutions could continually examine their commitments in the light of a gradually evolving situation, not in the light of a sudden and dramatic alteration in their environment, which would necessitate sudden, large, and dramatic adjustments. Put in a different frame of reference, we have been feeling our way slowly toward a viable structure of interest rates that will attract from the American people as savers the large bulk of the funds that other Americans, American governments, and our offshore friends want to borrow. Note, however, a point so many times made: The Federal Reserve System has had no intellectual or emotional preoccupation with either high interest rates or low interest rates, as such. We have merely wanted an interest rate--the price for money--that largely equates the supply of savings that Americans are willing to furnish at that price with the demand for American savings at that price. At the same time, we have allowed for a growth of bank reserves intended to accommodate a growth in the money supply, which has been intended in turn to accommodate the increasing population and the increasing transactions of our country. That growth of reserves over the long postwar period exhibits a straight-line trend of 3 percent per annum. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 5 I do not believe that this has been a tight money policy. Indeed, if it is to be criticized, I think the criticism over the long period is that it may have been too easy, delaying adjustments that, considering the constant change in a consumer-guided economy, are forever necessary and are the easier the more promptly they are made; if we are to be criticized, I suspect the criticism is properly • taken on the point that we have allowed too much of the economy's expansion to be financed out of bank created credit. Second, speaking not to the long term but to our reaction toward cyclical situations, we have had an extraordinarily simple . pattern. Whenever we could detect a downward trend in economic activities, we have acted promptly to increase the supply of bank reserves and thus to permit banks to seek loans and investments and, in turn, to increase the money supply. By the same token, when we have detected the economy operating in conditions of boom, we have allowed borrowing demands to press against bank reserves and interest rates to call up a greater supply of real savings. The pattern has been as simple as that. Our counter-cyclical actions, whether by luck or sophistication I do not know, seem to me to have had an excellent result. We have avoided in postwar America a long or severe depression of the sort that has characterized other postwar periods, and the economy has responded when we have tried to stimulate it by monetary means. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 6 Now, let me go back to a point made a short while ago. In endeavoring to stimulate the economy we have increased bank reserves, after adjusting for changes in reserve requirements, from the low point in April, I960, of $18.2 billion, to $20. 0 billion (daily average basis) in July, 1962. cent increase. This has amounted to a 10 per- Note that the figure for total reserves, both on a seasonally adjusted and unadjusted basis, stands comfortably above the long-run 3 percent growth rate in bank reserves. had an easy money policy. In short, we have The commercial banks of this country have responded to this easy money policy by expanding their loans and investments $31. 2 billion, seasonally adjusted, or 16. 8 percent, between April, I960, and July, 1962. Still, we must all agree that the economy, while it has responded to monetary ease, has not recently been responding altogether to the heart's desire. Although the figures, I believe, give an ex- aggerated impression, we have an uncomfortable overcapacity in many lines. True, the figures for July were somewhat heartening, but un- employment remains higher than it should be. This leads me to an uneasy suspicion that something is happening in the economic system that we do not quite understand. Since I must frankly say that I do not believe it to be a lack of money availability, I believe a search for what is happening to our economy must take other directions; we need an agonizing reappraisal of some http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 7 - of the other elements of our total national policy. Meanwhile, with so many doctors disagreeing, I think we would be smart to postpone any exploratory operations or massive medications. It seems to me that the economy is like a man slightly afflicted with hypochondria who goes to his physician for a regular check-up and mentions that he has not been feeling as peppy of recent weeks as he had been. I think the physician in such a case would be wise and prudent to keep the patient under observation for a time before he begins dosing him either with tranquilizers or stimulants. Neither may be needed. is, With the art of economic diagnosis what it I feel that we should all be wise to pause a while and to find out, as best we can, what is actually happening in the economy before we begin dosing it. Such a suggestion may have the defect of being a little behindhand in the beginning of treatment, if treatment is needed; it has the enormous advantage of assuring that the patient is not treated with a medicine that aggravates, rather than remedies, his condition. That leads to a further question. Do I believe that additional injections of easy money would help the economy at this time? http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis I do not. FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF ATLANTA O F F I C E OF PRESIDENT http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis August 7, 1962 Here are a couple of copies of the first rough, rough draft of what I plan to say. As you can see, and probably suspected all the time, I long ago had my license to practice economics canceled. I am sorry to be so backward. Do not hesitate to make suggestions. I have hurried this through so that I could have the remainder of my time getting abreast of some past statistics and trying to puzzle out answers to questions that are likely to be popped. As ever, Malcolm Mr. Wm. McC. Martin, Jr. Chairman Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System Washington 25, D. C. Enclosures STATEMENT OF MALCOLM BRYAN, PRESIDENT OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF ATLANTA FORE THE JOINT COMMITTEE ON THE ECONOMIC REPORT, AUGUST 15, 1962 Gentlem It is flattering to be asked to appear before you today. After an examination of conscience, however, I find my sense of self-esteem greatly reduced by the necessity of confessing that I have no new figures and that I do not know the answers to the problems that beset us. I am afraid that when I am done the members of this Committee will reflect that they should have called on someone a great deal smarter. At any rate, like the average man, I am eqiipped with a considerable set of what I call convictions and others call prejudices. We Americans seem to have developed the habit of taking the economy's blood pressure, pulse rate, and temperature every hour on thehour. Professional economists, businessmen, and bankers are heavily engaged in the activity; the press, daily and weekly, tells us what has happened, what is happening, and what is about to happen. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis I myself am I sometimes tempted to the notion that if all the energy and wit involved could be channeled in some other direction, the result, although perhaps not immediately perceptible in our Gross National Product, would nonetheless have a long-run favorable effect on the growth rate of our economy. At the moment, without trying to support the point with figures, it seems to me that we are churning around at a high level of economic activity without going anywhere in particular. I do not know whether we shall, after this pause, break out on the upside with a continued recovery or on the downside; but I am sure that when the facts are in it will appear to everyone, including myself, that I ought to have known. Let me state a few convictions that may be dismissed as mere whimsey: 1. If we break out of this pause on the downside, there is no presently visible, objective, rational reason why the period of adjustment should be long or deep. It will only be long and deep if we take counsel of our fears and frighten each other into panic. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis If we do this, then we are .3 stupid; I do not believe we are that stupid. 2. It is inevitable, after the long inflationary cycle this country has had, that there will appear a thousand and one misapplications of capital and manpower that find a less-than-expected and services. market for their products It is quite possible, to be sure, that we shall be unpleasantly surprised by the magnitude and extent of the adjustments that may be necessary. I myself believe that they are of a size and magnitude small / enough that our dynamic and infinitely flexible economic system can accom- modate itself to them if we will but let it. What chiefly scares me is that we shall stifle the economy by • attempting to overmanage it, wherein I think, judging upon the record, our last case may well be worse than our first. What will be needed, if this pause in the economy breaks out on the downside, is not a single adjustment but a myriad of adjustments. These can only be made by a flexible economy whose decisions related to manpower and capital are under the day-to-day guidance of free consumer and free investor choices. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis -•4 - I doubt if the process will be greatly aided if on the basis of a theory, which can easily be mistaken, and on the basis of statistics that at best represent a microscopic sampling of the economic universe, we attempt to beguile, entice, prod, and pummel the economy in one or another di- rection. I realize that a free market is often an uncomfortable thing to have around and often seems to behave miserably. Unfortunately, there is no substitute for it. So I bespeak my conviction that we should at this time be guided by two general philosophies: http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis a. Speaking simply as an American citizen, I think we should see to it that the pains of readjustment do not fall with overwhelming and degrading force on the unemployed, which is the classic locale of those pains. I believe we are bound in conscience not to let that happen. b. Again, speaking simply as an American citizen, I believe we should do the things we know that government can i . do and do well. We should see that competition is maintained in all sectors of the economy; we should see that the consumer is protected against the sharp practice of an occasional scoundrel; we should see that he is protected in those areas where his quality judgments do not suffice. After that, I be- lieve we shall be well advised to give the free market economy a chance to adjust itself before we intervene to prod it and direct it. I shall make a slight further allusion to this point in a minute or so. Now, as for monetary policy. As I see it, monetary policy in most of the postwar period can be interpreted around a few simple ideas. First of all, we have been striving to bring the inflation to an end, but to bring it to an end so gently and so gradually that American businesses, individuals, governments, and the managers of savings insti- tutions could continually examine their commitments in the light of a gradually evolving situation, not in the light of a sudden and dramatic alteration in http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis ., --6- ' C their environment, which would necessitate sudden, large, and dramatic * adjustments. Put in a different frame of reference, we have been feeling our way slowly toward a viable structure of interest rates that will attract from the American people as savers the large bulk of the funds that other Americans, American governments, and our offshore friends want to borrow. At the same time, we have allowed for a growth of bank reserves intended to accommodate a growth in the money supply, which has been in • turn intended to accommodate the increasing population and the increasing transactions of our country. That growth of reserves over the long postwar period exhibits a straight-line trend of 3 pe rcent per annum. I do not believe that this has been a tight money policy. Indeed, if it is to be criticized at all, I think the criticism over the long period is . . that it may have been too easy, delaying, and therefore aggravating, adjust- ments that, considering the constant change in a consumer-guided economy, are forever necessary and are the easier the more promptly they are made; if we are to be criticized, I suspect the criticism is properly taken on the http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis point that we have allowed too much of the economy's expansion to be financed out :of bank credit and required too little of it to be financed out of real savings. Second, speaking not to the long term but to our reaction toward cyclical situations, we have had an extraordinarily simple pattern. Whenever we could detect a downward trend in economic activities we have acted promptly to increase the supply of bank reserves and .thus to permit banks to seek loans and investments and, in turn, to increase the money supply. By the same token, when we have detected the economy operating in con- ditions of boom, we have allowed borrowing demands to press against bank reserves and interest rates to call up a greater supply of real savings. The pattern has been as simple as that. We have sometimes been criticized on the matter of timing, when our economic seismographs have failed to give us a sufficient warning of a distant tremor. defend the record. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Still, I - 8 - Our counter-cyclical actions, whether by luck or sophistication I do not know, seem, to me to be excellent. We have avoided in postwar America a long or severe depression of the sort that has characterized other postwar periods, and the economy has responded beautifully when we have tried to stimulate it by monetary means. Now, let me go back to a point made a short while ago. In endeavoring to stimulate the economy we have increased bank reserves from the low point, , in 1958 to This has been a total of percent. , on our latest monthly figures. Note that the figure for total reserves, V , both on a seasonally adjusted and unadjusted basis, stands comfortably above the long run 3 percent growth rate in bank reserves. We have, in short, had an easy money policy. Still, we must all agree that the economy, while it has responded, has not responded altogether to the heart's desire. believe are exaggerated, lines. Although the figures I we have an uncomfortable overcapacity in many Though the figures for July were somewhat heartening, unemployment http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis . ... -9- remains higher than any of us would like to see. This leads me to an uneasy suspicion that something is happening in the economic system that we do not quite understand. Since I must frankly say that I do not believe it to be a lack of money availability, I believe a search for wla t is happening to our economy must lie in other directions; we ne.§d an agonizing reappraisal of some of the other elements ';'. ..a'' of our total national policy. In the meantime, I have suggested that we should not be in haste to begin kicking, prodding, spurring, and pummeling the economy. It would be the part of prudence, I believe, to find out what is wrong with it before we begin prescribing dosages. on shore and off shore. demand. For my own part, I hear a lot of advice, Some say that what we lack is an adequate consumption Some say that what we lack is an adequate investment demand. Others say that we need a shorter work week. Still others say that we are undergoing an unprecedented industrial revolution, that the economy cannot http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis . 10 - of itself re-deploy its f o r c e s , and that the government should step in to direct capital and labor to the places where the government thinks they should go. And so on. Every economic astrologer active in the field is equipped with a set of figures and a set of theories to support his conclusions; and they agree on one thing only: something should be done! For one, I do not know what should be done; and I am enough of a cynic, although courteous and pleasant in my cynicism, to believe that no one else knows either--albeit, in the light of subsequent events, someone will prove to have guessed right. It seems to me that the economy is like a man who goes to his physician for a regular check-up and mentions that he has not been feeling as peppy of recent weeks as he had been. I think the physician in such a case would be wise and prudent to keep the patient under observation for a time before he begins dosing him either with tranquilizers or benzedrine. He may need neither. With the art of economic diagnosis being what it is, I feel that we should all be wise to pause a while and to find out, as best http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis , - 11 we may, what is actually happening in the economy before we begin dosing it either with sedatives or stimulants. Such a suggestion has the defect of being a little behindhand in the beginning of treatment; it has the enormous advantage of not treating the patient with a medicine that aggravates, rather than remedies, his condition. That leads to a further question. Do I believe that additional injections of easy money would help the economy at this time? http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis I do not. THE ECONOMIC BASLE, ADVISER The Honorable Wright Patman, Chairman Joint Economic Committee Congress of the United States Washing tonf D .fifJ Dear Mr. Patman, I wish to thank you and the members of the Joint Economic Committee for inviting me to participate in the hearings on the state of the U,S. economy which the Committee will hold on Monday, August 13th* It is with deep regret that I have to decline the kind invitation, however, as I cannot free myself to go to the United States at this time* You may be sure that the subject is of great interest to me and that I would ordinarily be very happy to contribute in any way possible to the work of your Committee* I may add that the recent Annual Report of the Bank for International Settlements dealt to some extent with the economic and financial situation of the United States, and I am taking the liberty of sending you a copy of It under separate cover. I myself am in full agreement with the Report and do not feel that developments since its release would warrant any significant changes in the views presented. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Yours sincerely, Milton Gilbert August 17, 1962. Dear Steve: Thank you for giving me a copy of your testimony before the Joint Economic Committee on August 9 and calling my attention to the comments on monetary policy. I think your statement is first class, as usual* and makes a real contribution at this mixed up time. X am enclosing a copy of my comments at the same hearings yesterday which you might like to have. Please give my best to Este!le,and Cynthia and I miss you both. Cynthia and our children are over in Greece at the moment but the vagaries of the present Congress have kept me here. With ail good wishes, Cordially yours, Wm. McC. Martin, Jr. Dr. R. J. Saulnier, 410 Lehman Hall, Barnard College, Columbia University, New Tork 27, Hew York. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis TESTIMONY OF DR RAYMOND J SAULNIER, PROFESSOR OF ECONOMICS, BARNARD COLLEGE, COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY, NEW YORK CITY, BEFORE THE JOINT ECONOMIC COMMITTEE, WASHINGTON DC. AUGUST 9 1962, I want, first, to commend the Committee on its decision to hold open hearings at this time on economic policy and to thank you for inviting me to participate in them. Certainly, the hearings are timely. Although the economy is far from being in distress, things have not gone very well and certainly not as well as was expected. The 1961-62 recovery and expansion was not up to par, much less than having been an improvement over earlier recoveries. And there are those who think that after only seventeen months of recovery and expansion a downturn is imminent. It also adds to the timeliness of these hearings that they come at a point when the federal budget is being shaped up for the fiscal year 1964 and I would assume that work on the legislative program for 1963 will soon be under way in the Executive Branch. In short, the time couldn't be more appropriate for an open discussion of economic policy. I think it would be agreed, also, that such a discussion is needed. As I understand it, you have already received testimony setting forth the salient facts on the economic situation. I will try not to duplicate any of this, but before I comment on policy matters I must give you my own conclusions regarding the present position of the economy and the near-term outlook, for these are critical to my policy recommendations. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 2 3 It is widely acknowledged that for some time now the indicators to which we look for clues as to the economic outlook have been far from encouraging. Warnings of a slowdown in the rate of economic advance began to be visible early this year. Month by month these warnings were confirmed; but the evidence for the month of May went beyond this to suggest a strong possibility of a downturn occurring before the end of the year. If anything, June darkened the outlook a bit. July was another matter. Not very much data are available yet, but what there is suggests that the economy steadied itself and improved a bit. Indeed, for a month that is often hard to interpret, I would say that the evidence of improvement in July is pretty clear. Certainly, if we look at the month's developments from the point of view of their policy implications there is no doubt but that they destroyed any case there may have been for an emergency tax cut. And perhaps I can best express my estimate of the near-term outlook by saying that I doubt that developments in the next few months will warrant emergency tax cutting. But it would be a mistake to think that the danger of a downturn has been altogether averted. I don't think one can say at this time that it has been any more than deferred. The economy has shown resistance and strength in the last few weeks but the record for the recovery as a whole obviously suggests a lack of the kind of liveliness one would like to see. The way I read the record, it is saying that there is no need for emergency anti-recessionary tax cutting, but that there is an urgent need to strengthen the underlying forces http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis ( - 3- that make for growth in our economy and to remove obstacles to growth. And I would say that the record is telling us, also, that we don't have an unlimited amount of time to shape and adopt the needed measures. The performance of the economy in the last few years, and in particular the disappointing record of the present recovery, provide important guidance as to the kinds of measures that are needed, Four points in this record are especially noteworthy. First, it should be clear from recent experience that we can't produce the economic growth we want merely by an increase in federal spending. The fact is that in the fiscal year just completed net budget expenditures of the federal government rose by more than $6 billion. This followed an increase of $5 billion in the fiscal year 1961, of which nearly 80 per cent was incurred in the last six months of that period. And I would judge that more increases are in prospect. The budget presented to the Congress in January 1962 projected a rate of expenditures for Fiscal 1963 which would be about $6 billion higher than the Fiscal 1962 rate. Thus, we have had a $10 billion increase in federal expenditure rates in the last year and a half; and if things turn out as projected in January, we shall have had a $16 billion increase in the two and a half years ending June 30 1963. There has been a sharp increase, also, in spending by state and local governments. The economy has lagged, but no one can say it has lagged because it got no boost from governmental spending. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 4- Second, not only have we had a sharp rise in federal spending but it has been deficit spending, which is widely regarded as being a very strong tonic for the economy. But if a deficit in the federal budget with expenditures rising will stimulate the economy, then we should be enjoying a good deal more stimulation than we are feeling right now. There was a deficit in the con- ventional budget of nearly $4 billion in the fiscal year 1961 and a deficit of $6.3 billion was registered in the fiscal year just completed. And still the economy lags. There are all kinds of reasons why our country, with its heavy responsibilities in the Free World, should keep its financial housekeeping in strict order, but if we were to put all of these powerful arguments aside and simply look at the record as pragmatists I don't see how we can escape the conclusion that the federal budgetary deficits just don't work the magic they are reputed to perform. Third, it is not easy, either, to see a ground for complaint that consumer buying power has not increased rapidly enough. Between the first quarter of 1961, which was the trough quarter of the 1960-61 recession, and the second quarter of this year, disposable personal income rose more than did personal consumption expenditures. Reflecting this fact, the annual rate of personal savings went up by about $3 billion and the savings ratio rose from 6.7 to 7 per cent. Fourth, the record shows very clearly that the one major element in our economy that has been really lagging is the volume of expenditures by private business http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 5 - concerns on plant and equipment. While other major categories of national product have been increasing well enough, and some, such as governmental spending, have been rising sharply, producers' expenditures on durable goods have hardly increased at all. They rose in the recovery period, but not nearly enough; and, looking at their behavior over a longer period, they were barely larger in the second quarter of 1962 than they were in the second quarter of 1960. Furthermore, if the amounts spent were expressed in constant rather than in current prices I expect it would be found that the physical amount of goods involved was actually less in mid-1962 than it was two years ago. When one goes over the whole record it is pretty clear that the lag in our economy is in private investment activity and that our major need is to create an environment that will favor a more rapid increase in this category of expenditures. What we need is a program of action that will bring this about. In a moment I will outline a plan of policy which, in my judgment, would fit the present situation, but before I do that let me say that a plan of economic policy, like any broad strategical plan, must respect the constraints that are inherent in the situation in which it is intended to operate. There is no point in talking about what it would be helpful to do if only the situation were not what it is. In the present case, it is futile, and worse than that, to talk about policy without regard to the fact that we have a substantial and continuing deficit in our balance of payments. When I appeared before this Committee last January I said that I thought this was our "number one" problem. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis ( - 6- I think that is still a correct appraisal of the situation. We should shape our policy plans in the understanding that we do have a precarious international financial position; and to the fullest extent possible our plans should be designed to help improve that position. Further, it is not very helpful to talk about policy plans, fiscal or otherwise, as if there were no deficit in the federal budget. I have heard suggestions recently for tax reductions that sound as if those who make them have forgotten that the federal government is not collecting enough money to pay its expenses even in an advanced stage of business expansion. The advocates of this kind of tax cutting have either overlooked the existing deficit, which hardly seems possible, or they have been persuaded that tax cuts which create deficits will give such a strong stimulus to growth that they will pay for themselves with very little delay. As I have shown, there is nothing in our recent experience to suggest that deficits, as such, will do this. In any case, the policy program I am going to propose does respect the facts of our international financial position and our federal finances. Let me outline the major elements of a program. First, it would be helpful, if this Committee, and the Administration, would reaffirm the budgetary policy which has been previously stated, namely, that our object in budgetary planning is to achieve a balance over the cycle, with surpluses in periods of cyclical expansion offsetting deficits during cyclical http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 7 - recessions. Any doubts on this should be put to rest. Second, it is essential, in my judgment, to initiate at the earliest possible opportunity a program of tax reforms designed to stimulate a higher rate of business capital expenditures. The steps recently taken by the Treasury to liberalize depreciation allowances were a good start. The investment credit would be helpful, too, though my preference would be for a still more liberal depreciation allowance. Beyond these steps, we ought to get the corporate income tax rate down. The 42 per cent limit proposed in the Baker-Herlong bill would be very helpful, of course, but we might set 47 percent as an interim goal. Also, we should eliminate the near-confiscatory rates imposed on the upper brackets of individual income. Again, I would like to see these reduced over a period as contemplated in the Baker-Herlong bill, but 50 per cent would be a reasonable interim goal. Quite apart from other effects, these tax changes would be tremendously helpful to our four million small and medium-sized business concerns. The task we face of providing jobs in this decade for a rapidly increasing number of young people is going especially to require a vigorous body of small and mediumsized companies. Many will find employment in large nationwide organizations, but we should leave no stone unturned to help the small and medium-sized companies in which large numbers of young people will find their most interesting and rewarding employment opportunities. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis ( - 8- Third, although I want to see us do every bit of constructive, growth-promoting tax reducing that we can do, I believe we should limit what we do to what can be counterbalanced, in its immediate revenue-reducing effects, by expenditure reductions and possibly by some sales of Treasury-held financial assets. If rate reductions of the type I have proposed promote growth to the extent that I think they will, they will eventually pay for themselves, but in the interim we should plan to pay for them in some quite tangible way. I suggest that we go about the task of financing constructive, growth-promoting tax cuts as follows: (1) As guidance for the fiscal 1964 budget-making process the President should set a ceiling on federal spending. This ceiling should not be higher than the projected spending level of Fiscal 1963 and if possible should be lower. (2) With that ceiling as a preliminary guide, an effort should be launched at once to reduce spending on low-priority programs. The economies achieved from this budget review need not go exclusively to financing tax reductions. On the contrary, they might be divided about 50-50 between this purpose and increasing expenditures on truly high-priority programs. By high-priority programs I mean those that give a clear promise of enhancing our capability for achieving a vigorous rate of economic growth. (3) Although I would depend mainly on the reduction of low-priority spending to offset the immediate revenue cost of tax reforms it should be possible http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 9- to offset some part of this budgetary impact from the proceeds of the sale of portions of the huge amount of financial assets which the federal government has accumulated over the years under its various direct loan programs, It was estimated in the January 1962 budget message (Special Analysis E) that outstanding direct loans of major federal credit programs at the close of the fiscal year 1962 would come to nearly $27 billion. Obviously, one should not press a program of this kind too hard lest it raise borrowing costs in the long-term capital markets. But it should be possible to distribute significant amounts of these assets on terms that would be fully protective of the public interest and without any material effect on long-term borrowing costs. Something between $2-1/2 and $3 billion would be a reasonable beginning goal for tax reductions of the sort I have proposed; and I believe that this immediate impact on revenues could be offset by some combination of the means I have indicated. If more can be done. so much the better. It is ray considered judgment that a statement to the effect that this is the direction of policy to be followed in tax and expenditure matters would have a very stimulative effect on our economy. But I would emphasize that it is very important to get the program under way soon. Accordingly, the tax aspects should be presented, in my judgment, in a form that will minimize the time required for consideration prior to enactment. (4) From this point of view, the simpler the bill the better. This brings me to the question of monetary policy, which is especially http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 10 - important at this time because of our international payments position and because of the lag in our economy. No one wants a money policy that will retard the correction of our balance of payments position, much less a policy which would actively worsen that position. On the contrary, money policy should contribute to the needed correction. But if monetary policy is asked to carry too much of the burden of correcting, or even of protecting, an international payments position which, like ours, is traceable in good part to governmental programs it could very well be so restrictive as to offset all the stimulating effect which we could hope to produce through fiscal measures. The risk of our getting into such a policy dilemma is reduced, of course, to the extent that we succeed in efforts such as those being pressed by the administration in connection with procurement under our military and economic aid programs. Vigorous application of these efforts to conserve dollars is an absolute requirement of policy at this time. This requirement is underlined by the fact that free reserves seem, to have been trending down recently, that the money supply currently seems to be shrinking, and money rates and bond yields have recently taken a rather sharp turn upward. Considering all elements in the situation, as the Reserve authorities are in a position to do, these developments may be both necessary and beneficial. All the same, I would hope that considering the position of the economy at this time and the extent of http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis -li- the more direct measures being taken to help correct our balance of payments, it will not be necessary to tighten credit conditions over their present position. Actually, some easing would be helpful to the economy, especially in the long-term section of the market. At an earlier point in this statement I suggested the sale of some part of the financial assets currently held by the Treasury as a technique for meeting part of the cost of a growth-promoting tax reduction program, I realize that this could have a tendency to raise long-term borrowing costs, though I should think the program could be managed so as to limit this effect to a very small amount and hopefully to avoid it altogether. But if long-term borrowing costs have to be lifted, and in the last few weeks they have been lifted in the corporate bond market, I should think it would be better to do this as part of a program to finance growthpromoting tax reductions than as part of a normal Federal Reserve open market operation. (5) Finally, let me say a few words on the relation of costs and prices to economic growth. Mr. Boiling of this Committee will perhaps remember a letter I wrote him a few years back responding to certain questions he put to me and in which I stressed the importance of cost increases, and particularly of labor-cost increases, as a force behind rising prices. This was not a widely-held view at the time, but it has gained a good many followers since. Indeed, not so long ago it was not even fashionable to believe in the necessity of a reasonably steady price http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 12 - level as a basis on which to achisve sustainable and meaningful economic growth. But views on these matters have undergone very considerable change. Nowadays, there is broad agreement that a reasonably stable price level is the only basis on which a workable economic strategy can be built. I subscribe fully to this view, though I must confess that the conversion to it has been more rapid and more widespread than anything I had expected to witness. But this is good and I am happy to see it; all that concerns me is that we do not overlook the fact that once price level stability has been made the basis of an economic strategy, one automatically accepts certain other requirements, too. The most important of these is that, in the most general case, production costs must not increase by amounts that cannot be fully offset, in their effect on unit cost of production, by improvements in productivity. If this requirement is not respected, the result is a suppression of profit margins and eventually a suppression of the rate of economic growth. There is wide agreement, I believe, that for some years we have, as a nation, been failing to respect this requirement. Competitive conditions, and to some extent governmental pressures, have pretty much fixed a ceiling on prices; currently, many industrial prices are being reduced. But we have been less successful in limiting increases in costs. One way to put this is to say that price inflation, at least for the time being, has been checked but that cost inflation continues. I believe that it is this inconsistency, which reflects itself in narrower and that narrower profit margins,/is the major factor behind the lag in our http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 13 - economic growth. And I want to state quite clearly that although I believe we can improve our economic performance through appropriate j&*&43Lt& &M4& /^monetary policies, we must follow appropriate wage-price-profit policies or we will undo all the good these other measures can accomplish. This is obviously what the President and his Council of Economic Advisers had in mind in setting forth certain wage and price guidelines in the January 1962 Economic Report. There is a good deal that can be said pro and con on the idea of setting guidelines in this fashion, but without going into these arguments I must express a reservation about the wage guideline as currently defined. The principle that labor cost increases should be equated to productivity improvements does not, in my judgment, suit our present situation. What we need now is a chance to achieve an improvement in profit margins and some reductions in prices. If we keep our economy competitive enough, which is a requirement underlying any strategy for an enterprise economy, we can be sure that profit improvement will not go far beyond what is reasonable before it is translated into lower prices. But in order to achieve profit margin increases and price reductions, production cost increases must be kept well within productivity improvements, not equated to them. The guideline, in my judgment, should be revised to this effect, It would be helpful also to have a better understanding as to how these guidelines are to be enforced. Certainly, it is clear that there is very little to be gained from enforcement procedures of the sort that were employed in the steel incident. I have four suggestions to make in this http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 14 - connection. First, on the application of wage-price guidelines, I suggest that the Executive Branch limit its role to (i) annual descriptive and analytical reviews, presented in the Council's year-end Economic Report, of the major developments affecting wagess prices and profits; and (ii) a critical evaluation by the President, in his year-end Economic Message, of wage-price-profit developments during the year. If it should be the President's judgment that developments have not been consistent with the national interest he could state the respects in which he believes mistakes have been made and the lines along which adjustments should be made. There is ample opportunity in the medium of these two messages for the facts to be set forth and analyzed for their meaning and significance and for guidance, which I believe should be couched in general terms, to be given for the year ahead. Short of emergency conditions, and in these connections I would interpret "emergency" quite restrictivelys I believe our economy will work better if the Executive Branch avoids direct intervention in specific wage-price decisions. In the meantime, efforts should be pressed, as I believe they are by the President's special commission on labor-management relations, to explore ways of improving the balance of bargaining power in labor markets. Second, I suggest that conferences such as the one sponsored this spring by the Secretary of Labor on national economic issues be held regularly every year. Conferences of this kind are an excellent way to encourage discourse and to improve understanding among labor, management and http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 15 - government on economic policy questions. Third, it would also be helpful to provide for the expression of views from the public on wage-price-profit developments. To this end, the Joint Economic Committee or possibly the Council of Economic Advisers might plan to have open hearings every January or February devoted specifically to this range of questions and in particular to the guidelines, if these continue to be set out by the Council and the President. So far as possible, the effort should be to give an opportunity to be heard to all those who have potentially useful contributions to make to the discussion. This could be a kind of "annual economic town meeting." I come from New England and I know that it is sometimes not as easy to get such meetings stopped as it is to get them started, but I think this can be managed and, in any case, the open discussion of stated public policy is always a healthy thing in a democracy. Open discussion is certain to help us find our way to an understanding of the kind of wageprice policy, shaped through free collective bargaining and competitive markets, under which we can achieve the kind of economic performance we all desire. Fourth, I suggest that this Committee make a special point, possibly through the scheduling of special hearings, of examining into the ways in which government itself may be putting direct upward pressure on costs and prices. I have in mind, particularly, the governments' procurement and contracting activities and the programs under which it makes minimum http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 16 - wage determinations as authorized by the WalshrHealy and Davis-Bacon statutes. We should be quite sure that these programs are administered in ways that are consistent with the kind of wage-price policies which, under the guidelines procedure, we hope to have followed by all labor groups and business units. I would judge from my experience as an ^^.sjjt'fisbc-tAj-esif gar*Chairman of fch« 0^ President^£.Council of Economic Advisers that there are responsible businessmen who would say that the programs tend to inflate costs. The problem needs close study. I have limited myself in this statement to fiscal, monetary and wage-price policies. There are, of course, other parts of a strategy of economic policy that also deserve attention. But the three I have commented on are the crucial ones. If I have overlooked points in which members of this Committee have a particular interest, I shall be happy to respond to questions on them. Thank you very much. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Raymond J Saulnier New York City August 8 1962 Airmail August 20, 1962, Dear Paul; 1 am pleased to have the copy of your statement before the Joint Economic Committee and you can he sure 1 shall read it with real interest. As 1 appeared before the same group you might like to glance at a copy of my statement, a copy of which is enclosed. It has been a busy but interesting summer. With all good wishes. Cordially Wm. McC. Martin, Jr. Professor Paul W. McCracfcen, Graduate School of Business Administration, The University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis TESTIMONY OF SfctfL W, McCSACKEN, PHOFESSOK OF BUSINESS C0WDJTIOHS, SCHOOL OF BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION* UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN, BEFORE THE JOINT ECONOMIC COMMITTEE OF THE CONGRESS., AUGUST 9, 1962, 10s00 A.M I. Mr, Chairman* I greatly appreciate the opportunity to appear before this Committee to consider the implications of current business conditions for economic policy, Clearly the first question to pe^e is thins Does the evidence indicate that the economic situation needs to be strengthened in a lundamentel way? The situation is not* of ccwarse,, without its hopeful aspects Evea if this cyclical expansion were to be a bit on the short side, business cycle history suggests that eccttoaic conditions should 'x^ntlntie to iaprove for several Months yet - By the end of this year the present expansion would still be <*f only 22 sooths duration* Only on* upswing since World War I (November, 1927, to August, 1929) was shorter than this, Moreover, we know that the course of any upswing is irregular,, with flat Booths and air pockets occasionally developing^ The fact is that in recent sooths the economy has been boBbarded with an unusual rim of bad luck -— such as the steel price donnybrook, the stock aarket break, and recurring nervousness about the international position of the dollar, Good ecosoBic policy 'clearly requires that we not be nervous Nellies — rashly proposing aajor changes each tiae a cluster of bmd news or bad luck comes along» Three considerations suggest that the economy does need strengthening in a fundamental way. First„ there is the fact that the economy h*s for some years been operating somewhat below par This has been widely recognized and discussed. In his study for this Committee (published in 1960) Mr Knowles estimated for each year frca 1909 to date the output that would have represented http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 2- reasonably full utilization of the nationps productive resources. In nine of the fifteen years from 1947 to 1961 output was below par (including all years since 1957). By contrast in the 17 years from 1909 to 1929 (excluding the years 1917-1920) the record was notably better. "Full employment" years in those two decades outnumbered those when output was sub-par by about two to one. Interpretations of this experience will differ, but one conclusion is clear. and steam. The economy for several years has had an evident lack of bounce Our current problem Iti more than Just one of those normal momentary air pockets in a cyclical expansion. Second, the current cyclical expansion (beginning after February 1961) has turned out to be the weakest since the first World War. During the sixteen months from February, 1961, bo June, 1962, nonagricultural employment gained 3.6 per cent. The average employment gain in the first 16 months of the eight other cyclical expansions since World War I was 11.3 per cent,, and even following the hardly discernible recession of 1927 employment increased 7.6 per cent. The improvement in industrial production this time has been less than in any of tfee other cyclical expansions since the first World War. The same is true for gross national product. The gain in retail sales has been slightly greater than that following July, 1921, and November, 1927, but it falls considerably short of those after t.'*e other six recessions. The facts can usefully be summarized something lik«> this. The data in Table I show the gains in eight measures of business activity during the first 16 months of each cyclical expansion since World War I. If data were fully available it would be possible to make 64 comparisons of the current cyclical expansion with others — for each of eight measures of business activity comparing the http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Percentage Increase in Eight Measures of Business Activity During the First Sixteen Months of Cyclical Expansions Since World W»r I After Recession Ending; July 1921 July 1924 Number of employees in nonagricultural establishments +21 06 +11 . 4 + 7,6 Unemployment rate, total (inverted) •. Mar ^ 1933 June 1938 Oct0 1949 Aug u 1954 Apr, 1958 1961 +18,2 + 9.4 +11 ,0 + 6,1 + 408 + 306 +123 . 7 +4300 08,7 +260 6 NA NA NA +3500 429 2 +50.0 1-27,5 +18,4 +34,5 +47,7 +3007 +17,2 +18,9 +15,4 Gross national product in current dollars (Q)~ NA +16,2 +1108 +230 5 +1200 +23,7 +13 o 0 +1004 +10,2 Gross national product in 1954 dollars (Q)?/ NA NA NA NA NA +13.2 + 9,8 + 98 + 7,7 +13.0 +22 .5 +13.7 +29.7 +16,2 +16,0 +1600 Index of industrial production i n i Nov. 1927 Indicator Bank debits outside NYC, 343 centers +11 . 3 Personal income +21.0 +12,6 +10.2 +26 . 5 +10,8 +31 ,1 +11 o 5 + 8,5 + 900 Sales of retail stores + 405 +69 + 5,4 +2000 +180 9 +22 ,1 +11 c 3 +1006 + 6.5 Source: "Business Cycle Developments," July, 1962, p0 57, NA - Not available, a/ Five quarters, b/ Four quarters* http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis +19,3 - 4- post-1961 gala with that during the eight other cyclical expansions,, Since for earlier periods some data are not available, only 55 iisch comparisons can be made, In 48 of these 55 the ccsap&risan is unfavorable to the performance since early last year, in 6 ttwsre is a favorable cinparison^ and in one case it is a tie* That the current cyclical expansion has been a particularly weak and sluggish one is Quite evident fron these facts, l*. is the nation's poorest performance in fcsar decades» and probably one of the poorest in our historya It is, of courset true that expansions after very mild recessions (such as the one in 196&-31) tend to be on the mild side, but tiie current expansion is weak even relative to tbat following the 19£7 recession,, third,, we are begls&ing to j?aad©]r if the present expansion will turn out to be not only the wesl&st but also one of ths ahorv.est in the post-war periodo We must beware of attaching excessive importance to very current data, On the other tood, certain facts are undeniably disturbing, The gain in business activity dsriag June (the last month at the moment for which data are f-jlly available) was about one-third tfc» average monthly gain since the present exp&i&sio& g^t tgnderway,, There is al^o some evidence in the data in "able II of a slowing dosm in the expansion tiroughout the second quarter „ Moreover, it 'is cleir that business sentiment has been adversely affected by events is recent months, The stock market break has had a subsfemtial effect on tUc thinking of both business people and consumers « http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 5Table II Monthly Changes in Selected Measures of Business Activity (Seasonally adjusted) 1962 Nonagricultural Employment Industrial Production Personal [nooiM Retail Sales U> (2) (3) (4) (5) Jan. -58 -13 S-l-,7 $4- 9 Feb, +339 +1,3 +3,2 +129 March +128 +009 +2,, 6 +302 April 4359 41.1 +2.4 +338 May + 11 +0B7 +104 -117 June + 43 +0*3 +007 -431 2/G1-6/62 av0 *121 +100 +203 + 80 Source: Col0 2 - BL8 estimates of nonagricultural workers on payrolls (in thousands); Col0 3 - Percentage points for the FR8 Index of Industrial Production^ Col* 4 - Department of Commerce (in billions); Colc 5 - Department of Commerce (in millions)0 Many businessmen were alarmed by the inferences they drew from the Adainiatration's handling of the steel price dispute, even though they did not support the actions of the steel industry, It would be reasonable to expect that an already anemic expansion would at least not be helped by the adverse cumulative effect of these more or less fortuitous developments,, Finally, leading indicators generally have not been looking strong for some time., New orders for durable goods have been declining since January', and the June fall was fairly sharpa in May and again in June. The length of the work week moved downward In fact, the most recent data available for the 30 leading indicators in "Business Cycle Developments'* show 18 of them http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis declining and 12 rising,, interpret. Leading indicators are, of course, difficult to They can be affected by capricious developments, and in any case the length of the leads is quite variable,, It would be difficult, however, to give their present pattern a very optimistic interpretation,, If this review of the current economic situation is realistic, we clearly face more than the problem of an off one or two months in the inevitably somewhat irregular path of a cyclical expansion,, It is more accurate to say that we confront an uncertain short-run business outlook following upon a particularly weak cyclical expansion ~- all of this superimposed upon an economic performance that has been sub-par.for some years„ II. What is our problem? There are, broadly speaking, two possibilities* People are either disinclined to spend their purchasing power, or there is a shortage of purchasing power, to spendo In one respect there may be a lessened inclination Consumer attitudes have never regained the levels of buoyancy that were reached in 1955, and there has been some deterioration since events of April and May* And the evidence is clear from work at the University of Michigan*s Survey Research Center that changes in consumer attitudes do influence the level of spending. There 10 also some concern ebout the possibility that wants have simply been saturatedc This argument has taken many forms — ranging from that of the affluent society to the fear that consumers are so fully in debt that the further expansion of credit necessary to sustain vigorous prosperity, cannot take placee There are persuasive reasons, however, for believing that the problem is not primarily saturation of wants0 http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Research evidence is fairly clear on •> poiot ,*s»)U tact is that aa l*n**i* >•».**„ AffveU aaplration rta* alao. The achleveaeat of one aca.. «$ 0eta the the laat ciecade the Uaiver*ity of Klchi ««*''* Siarvwr &e«M**rc& Center haa jrrofoed fNM»pl« ftbotlt their iMNids «ad wb«tln«r lb*y voald Ilk* to wUi9 jlp0c: «*prai<$ * tur«» itt th<e cottlng year, lib their 1962 MMttOgrapfe th« C»atwr *u» • TcKtcy, »» ttey did ten y«mr» ago, the great jaajority <»f »» |Ngof»le express wiatie* a»d desires for cooauaer fmHJiA all iikcone groyp»« Tho«*fe *AO do aot ex^rena nuch vi«he« are »oat cxvaaonly old ... or poor Th* proportion having no viahes and desires haa not increased ia the l»et tea Belaa; veil atocked with gooda, or having a«de large expee diturea recently* does not aake for "ueedleaaneae0" The Jciada of thittga desired have changed sttfbatantially I^Attf 4 V^atttt ^/**» Mlft^avMaMv* t^^^tie&aatdtt Bu^ai^a^ aad variofM hobbgr expend!turea have iBcreaeed in fr^qtreftcy i a»jj. uj, 1 At the name tie*, deairea for autonobiies have not di*iniched in •econd cara). Becatiae people have a great away wants aad deairea, they feel they wiat econowlae aad ahop car<§; (There vaa« therefore, a chaage in the kind of autoaobile deaired >* •George Katona, Char lea A, Lininger^ Jiuoes H, Uorgftn, aad b*-« iaaeller, **1961 Survey of Coaaoaer Finance*" (Uhiveraity of Michigan„ Survey Research Cettter 1962) p 0 98u http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - & - O»e ftvl'ie&ce suggests to aw that the problem 1* a shortage oi p**rpower. Since the low quarter of 1961 private? iii£o**« «i ter \«**ii * personal Istcosie plus corporate profits after taxes) haw increased $32 a t>ut private ckMMiisO for output h*s increiiiMi^ bUMo«i. thus p/rivft'v* dtymitnd i»»-ii Ancr«*ai€»<l $1,21 for «#cto; dollar - *«»» , Tni.t i* !•&» tomn tJj« $1.32 1» th - :>-i aftur 19S4, but it in still true that i.a &h« 5 qu»r >wing th« lo% polat l«*t y«««r private dmaaud for good* and &«rvic*» iar* rapidly than ittcoiQ«s after taxes. To »tMM» a shortage of purchasing power is «y&ony»ou& with the to accelerate the rise la wage rates. This approach would; •»*' r.owse, be sell- defeat ing becaut»e it would also r«i*a costs ol protftsfctio«j *ml,-( tA^r^/oro^ prices, AP*J xf the price line were held 0 th« resulting d«t«rioratiott in rrtviii* =»&., give us a aore «eute ca#* of the economic anenla we were trying to cure. On tbi« our experience of the last sewrel years i» quit«e> c?.**r., Th-r f « v i *Ji*t, Table III Indexes of Corporate Xncoae and Output IQ Manufactiirittg ^ 100) Oat: ^plo Costs (3) 1 ,3 96 : - http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 112 5.5 100,0 107,9 112,9 108,9 119 0 123.5 124,0 ts (4) 100.0 . 91.6 73.2 101,$ 96,0 94 (6) 100,0 5 , Cl l.fr* -. 0 112. a -. • 109, I 110. 1 110.1 2 - Federal Reserve Index; Cols, (3) and (4) - Sasic d&tft !>epartKent of Cosnerce; Col (5) - Column 3 oilvidanl by coXuna 3 Col, <6) Colisan 4 divided by colwna 2} 83.3 4 per unit of output rose More rapidly than prices after the Mtd--1950'a, wttfc the cotiseouent sharp decline in profits per unit of output, unquestiona played a Major role in the sluggish performance of toe econoMy in that perio it is9 1 think9 increasingly clear that the econoMlc policies of goveraMent have been natol ng m substantial contribution to the econmeif4» shortage of ptfcrchaeiac power la recent years. At tine* the Monetary author i clearly have stepped too hard on the brake pedal —•*-.£•>» in *$5? and in 1959. It i# equally clear „ however, that Monetary polic? haw dw&t economic expaaaion for roughly two and one-half yeara, The reaerve ol the banka haa been easy, CoaMmrr.iat basks are eager to expand in cottt^iiit vo tike *" loaned- up" b^nkiiDif ae&tiMent lift tin* tigfct -r--*)i»erv« *.; " . " n-'X'j > i 'i^iiji r >!• 5a*« i&cr&a««d ^-1/2 per cent l$>. is** last ^2^^^ C^Lt^^ 10, iatereat rates <cotstr«ry to tis* «xpectatiCNb of Many experienced Market ^w^r^rera «*rly thia year) have reMained relatively Xow., ftond yi«ida are only aiightiy »'tK9im tho»* at tiro l^w point of t^^ roc^^i^ion early last year., Vhatever quarrels w« way KiitNm with the Federal iteaorve about deta^ the evidence ooe* not support the view that Monetary policy &*# had atacb to do with th* current •i«NKgl«hnes» of the H*cono»r The princ; operationa. *g b.fc* e«so« f*"«» th# t*3t si -de of governnes&t .fiscal **r# w* fe*rw poisitw^ %»A. ts* gratification to the stabilizing effect of our tax •true&tfre ** * Major defense ia a recession. The isrg«* ive nature b*-*;* «eant that aroch of the decline in incoMes has been at nse of 1&* tmx collector . abilise-- • tncoMt»« *f t«r taxe# tended to «tay put - - *r* *13. i«*lil«r with this story . for som» enrit^uui «& Jiave not seeMed to p»^/-r^iw» fully tii« ij»iplic.*t..i»5«i& o*f «t.feA« for expansion, e^^d t^«»uKli we usually raclted the right http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 10 - The fact 10* however, that a tax structure which stabilizes incones after taxes during m recession also "stabilizes" then in an expansion — i,e, s it retards their expansion, Hist total cash receipts of government (federal, Table IV towwnMMit Boceipta aad GUP At Postwar Cyclical Peaks (Dollar amort* in billions) 1- 1 v • .: 1957 1960 1962 — 2nd «|tr Sources National Eneem Governnent f)«celpts yj iwni % XI $223.5 305,6 366,9 415 5 457.0s $ 59 a 2 94,9 116.3 141,0 158,0* 26,6% 31.1 31.8 33,9 34, 6e Basic data fron the Oepartnent of fnmanure e - estimated state, and local) have absorbed a large and growing; proportion of the national Income is well enough known„ though the quantitative nagnitudes are not always appreciated. The ratio of government cash r@e«ipt* (o& a national incone basis) to national incone has ilsen fron 26,6 per cent in 1948 to 33,9 par cent in I960, and it is probably about 34-1/2 per cent now, Let us new- look nor« closely at the last year and one-half to see how this^nVks out cyclically. Fron the low first quarter of 1961 to tiie second quarter of 1963 private incones before taxes (personal income plus corporate profits and the inventory valuation adjustnent) increased $45,0 billion http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis , •r.« A* Per Cent Ch*«g*v Private Income $4-' 2(1' 4.1.4% $16 5 33, .3% $r34 B**lc <*&t* tram Department of Commerce Government receipts, however,, Absorbed 44 per cent of this increase Jiow the sluggishness ®* the present recovery8 and the one in 1958-609 begias to loot ie»s mysterious* Hie tax atrmefeiore, by abaorbine 4O-45 per cent of the rise in private incoaes, left « gala i» incoaes after taxes so wMi.< itpecial eleaent^i of streagtn present) we could , economy !&*<:-%. to reasonably full esyloysjsfr • • • «M«tr«l position of time budget (wiaere reweotaes -misiU w«r *§«$tt*]L} t* .** fttll eatploymettt, we should theoreticaily f. persistent unenployneot — though a tax structure absorbing a large proportion of increnenta to national incone vould still have inportant adverse l^iplicatloixs for econonic growth„ If however» this neutral budgetary position is at a level of business activity consider** ably below vh*t would constitute reasonably full enploynent,, »« feav* mlso ei short ra» probi@»« The fiscal drag would make full employment dUir* cult to attaia, vhich would cause a short-fall in revenue, which would oake the budget look bad. which might make us disinclined to take needed http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 12 : this is not an unfair characterization of the present situation. In their January iteport the Council of Kconemie Advisers estimated that at reasonably fall employmeat the present tax structure would produce a aur|iliia (on a national income accounts basis) of perhaps $£ billion this year, with this full employment surplus approaching $10 billion by the first half of calendar 1963, In short 9 the budget now mwres from a neutral to a restrictive position substantially before the economy reaches reasonably full enploynent, and wiU* govemnent receipts siphoning off over 40 per cent of additions to incoae, it has been very difficult to get the needed thrust of increased private deaand* III. If this diagnosis is correct what does it suggest for fiscal policy? It neans, I think three things. First, the tax structure should be lowered so that the budget does not begin to exert a brake on the econony quite so far below reasonably full enploynent. Second, the tax structure now absorbs too large a proportion of increases in the national incowec Third, we aust slow down the tendency for the Federal government** receipts to absorb a growing proportion of the national income secularly. Host of my time has been consumed la an endeavor to establish the eas® that the fiscal operations of government are an important source of our present eeononie proble«» and that vigorous fiscal action nust play a najor role in any progran to deal with the problea, This leaves little tine to spell out specifics Even mo, it nay be useful to indicate briefly the nature of a fiscal program that night contribute to a stronger econonya http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 13 - First? budgetary procedures should fee nodi fled so Uiat we give explicit attention to this question: Sow rapidly should Federal expenditures grow IB the years ahead? the excellent work OB expenditures at both «nd« o* Pennsylvania Avenue do an effective and, I think , underappreciated Job of sifting; out waste sad unessentiality in ttee technical sease. , . . , - . . , • - • •. ... • irhi IM It is less well these Lndlvidually pel] coBSidere< HrograM i I «f» t« »@re thaa otafht to be spent in the aggregate. The ratio of Federal budget cash outlays to GUP i& fiscal 1962 was 2,.. I percentage points above that Table VI Ratio of Federal Cash Budget Outlays to CMP • -.- . Total of fiscal 1956, .^ - FY 1956 F£ JJ60 10,0%^ _Ii!L jj.aST" " 17,8 100 1 ^ 10^4 l*o»' Jta short, if the rate of Increase of Federal outlays had been linited to the rate of ig&crease of GMP, Federal cash outlays last year wo«iid have been $12 billion less, Ibis inevitably has reduced the scope for otherwise desirable incentive-pronoting tax reductions* It IP sawt ttaAreasonable to expect Iron the Administration an explicit declAration of its longer-range policy with respect to total outlayss and the Congress should re^exanine its own pre«?»d«»n*» fco mm if m®r® explicit attention can be given to tue total on 5^*cv ^ the expenditure side of each^budget Second, the economic situation would benefit fron tax actions now that would reduce the level of the structure and nove it in the direction of a better system, Fortunately9 there is considerable agreement about what would constitute such a package -- a reduction of 3 to 5 points in the http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 14 - corporate income tax; a cut -off of the perseaal incoiao tax at around a 65 eeat top rate, with sreGUGtioas of perhaps 2 peree&tage points back dowa through the normal tax; aad a rati®»ali2;atia& of <msr ns&tley array of excise taxes (which eowlct be doae with oso loss ef revenue). The total package should be such that the result ing tas structure would prodtsee ezteasgh ^©veaues eotaforto cover CKpeadi tares at reasonably- fall esploymento OB this basis i^ $7 biiliaa should presafely tee th& outside limit of assy tax reductions at thia time0 The aetissm sh€«ild sot fe© "q^iekie" or temporary ia charactss"0 We shcmld capitalise csm tk© substantial curremt consensus what ought to- fee dosa t© mova toward a better basic patters of F©ds-s?ai Third, I would myself sasppoyi the px^gosal that the President be giv©a limited pow@r t© alter certain taas rates. This eottld Sse hedged with ad©^^ate safeguards — limited as to asso-wit* asd perkaps reiuirisg that th© President tr&assit t© tine Congress a fall report setting forth reascnis for his actions* Without this each reeessisMi produces liMKsos'abl® presstiras to "do oa the ©speaditus^ sids <9biebr bistory saggests,. will be t@ a/higher lew&l* serrati^m. "mis proposal would, ia short, be a st^p toward fiscal eoa- Is the long rm it v?€>uld nake f«r a less rapid increase ditures and more elbow rocta oa the tas side for fsartfeer' seeded question; Wo^jld tas r©«3«ictiaa aad reform ROW be apt to worses farther t&@ alrea^r eo&ei?bat sa^vo^is posit ia® of the dollar isteamatiosaall^? This is possible. If the resulting ©s^a^si<5^ s@ts ia motion aa aceeleratsd ia our cost-priee Isvel, sad if w© issist tlaat the soa©taa?y s«tfeoriti©s adhere t© ottrsaUstlcally low iat-erest rat«sst http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis if I3©ed0d issprsves^at is profits - 15 - seemingly interpreted as evidence of entreprcneural malevolence, Xtiie dollar could qulc&ly &e i& real trouble„ And, it must be stated flatly, such trouble would then fee thoroughly desei'ved, II, however, we manage our affairs carefully, tfaer^ is good reason to think that th© international position of the dollar would at^t be worsened by tax reform and reduction nov/, and it might well fee stresgtiaened. The resulting Mglier level of national income v/cmld, of course, test! to increase imports aad tliat would enlarge the deficit ia our isitersatioaa! b& lasted of paymeatSo There are, however,, forces that v?o«ld r;ork the other way, Tlie eor© active desaarad for fuada would produce higher interest rates in tfce U.S. capital markets0 The invigorated pace of ocouesic activity would enlarge the ©ppor- timities for more profitable- lavestrsesit o?C capital in the domestic @C€iii<^g?^ ^'^ez^&^s&J ^Ze _^ez<^& ^^^^^s&^e^s^ ^t^^c^-^ ^-r^^c^L^ And the icuao^aticmal activity tliat aeceispaaies a more lively pace of •comaic espansioa s2i©uld in time laave soae favorable effect on O.S. exports, ^?tf(jZ_S ^T>^*-^^'£l^Z^^(~^L~J Siace in X-t>C^5^*_-; tfee U.S.. ecology isp^rts are relatively siaall aadycapitul trniiDaotioar^fin^eur balaHce of payiseiats ar-@ relatively large, there is at least aa ev&ii ebaaee that policies proposed here would kelp to narrow the fealeaeo 01' payseats deficit,, There d€i©s remtaia tlje potentiailj adverse effect sti comfideacs is the dollar, iaternatioaally aud doaestieally, of tax action BOW. If, however, the tasgiblo, eoKeretej objectivo force-s can r.0asossfoly tje e^pe^ted to fee at least aeutral sad probably favorable^ and if we give evideisca of capacity to manage sensibly stzc& tfeisgs as siouetssry aad \7age~eost~pjfiee ^elicies, w© caa pralsably deal with the psychological aspects of the problem,, http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 16 - CoaclqstoB Tins bacalured state of the economy at present, coming; OB the he*ls of a particularly weak cyclical expansion superimposed OB a protracted period of less than reasonably full employment„ strongly suggests that the ecoaosiy needs strengthening in a fundamental way; and it also suggests that v/ithin reasonable limits this can be done without courting the risk of a disorderly ecoaouic expansion« The basic problem is a shortage of income and purchasing power, bat this deficiency must bo remedied is ways that do not increase costs per unit of output and that do sot produce monetary conditions which wowld further weaken the dollare This calls for tax adjustments that lower and otherwise improve the atructixreo Hie oag&itude of the redaction should still leave us with a tax structure whose revenues would cover expenditures when productive resources are being utilized reasonably fully, Such actioa need aot weaken the dollar interaatioaally^, a&d there is aa even chance that they might strengthen ita In fact,, we are fortusate that what is seeded to step up the pace of Job creation a&d economic expansion -->-z-»C-*-z--<- at hone could also add streagth to the dollar iateraatioaally —/f& store ittAovative, isore prosperous, and ssore profitable ecoctoaor. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Statement of Wm. McC. Martin, Jr., Chairman, Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System before The Ways and Means Committee of the House of Representatives August 9, 1%2 Mr. Chairman: I have come here not to advocate or to oppose a cut in taxes -- for tax decisions lie outside my province -- but to be as helpful as possible to this Committee in discussing economic conditions and the relation of credit conditions thereto. To many people, the recent performance of the United States economy has been less than satisfactory. The flow of statistical informa- tion about activity has been widely publicized as showing a definite loss of momentum in the pace of expansion. June reports. This indication was clearly given by In that month, there were declines in durable goods o r d e r s , average hours of work at factories, retail sales and housing starts, and only small gains in industrial production, employment and personal income. Altogether, the impression of slowdown seemed well confirmed. There has been a popular tendency to view the various signs of slowdown as foreshadowing an imminent upper turning point in the economic cycle. Judged from the perspective of cyclical indicators, which in the past have shown a tendency to run ahead of the over-all data, this view has perhaps been reasonable. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis I sometimes wonder though if we have not become overly sensitive to cyclical indicators -- we read, watch, study, and talk about them so much that we may have become like medical students who acquire each disease as they read about its symptoms in their textbooks. We ought to remember that, while leading indicators have correctly foretold some recessions, they have also on occasions given portents of recession that did not occur. In June, our economic data were subject to certain special influence and, if allowance is made for these, the situation does not appear so persuasively bearish as appears at first sight. Thus, using up the inventory accumulated in anticipation of a steel strike that did not occur affected not only new orders for steel but also employment and hours of work in the steel industry, and unemployment claims in steel centers. The steel industry is so large that declines in series relating to it can at times result in declines in over-all manufacturing orders, employment and hours of work. Observers who simply count the pluses and minuses among the cyclical indicators run the risk of being overly influenced by the reflections of a decline in one industry, not of cyclical origin, showing up several times in their lists of unfavorable omens. In addition to the steel situation, though of less importance, a strike at some auto plants affected production and sales in June. The adverse effect of this on the June data should not be interpreted as being of cyclical significance. Nevertheless, the June showing as a whole was not strong. And it certainly made clear that the economy was moving ahead more slowly than http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis the optimistic goals widely discussed at the turn of the year. From the scattered and incomplete data now available for July, the economic situation appears to be mildly better. The unemployment rate was down slightly, and the data were definitely encouraging in another respect: they showed a fairly large decline among the long-time unemployed. Among other information on July, new domestic auto sales rose strongly: department store sales returned to the high levels of May; and private construction activity, seasonally adjusted, was up again, with industrial and commercial building quite strong. Exports recorded for June rose sharply. While reports on industrial production are not yet sufficiently complete to compute the Board's index, the information now at hand does suggest a good chance that the index will equal, or be slightly above, its record June level. Similarly, while data on consumers' purchase plans are not as conclusive as one might hope, they do suggest that over-all buying plans have not been adversely affected by recent events. For example, our quarterly survey, conducted with the Census Bureau in July, does not show any significant setbac.x in consumer spending plans since the previous survey in April. On the contrary, the data point to some strengthening of consumer purchase plans since early this year. Consumers are in a good financial position. a record high, and so are their savings. Their incomes are at The payments on debt that con- sumers are obligated to make each month have risen less rapidly than http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis consumer incomes. Furthermore, instalment credit delinquency and re- possession rates have declined sharply over the past 18 months to levels at or close to the lows for recent years. Business concerns' retained earnings also have been large, in many instances considerably in excess of current needs for expansion. This form of saving has been used in providing an additional flow of funds into credit markets and into extensions of trade credit as well. Meanwhile, business demand for bank loans has been less vigorous than in this stage of previous upswings. Banks, therefore, have sought other outlets for their funds and have increased other loans and investments, especially their holdings of State and local securities and real estate loans. Demand deposits have changed little so far this year, while time and savings deposits grew very rapidly in the first quarter and then continued to expand but at a lesser rate. Over the first half of the year, short-term interest rates fluctuated within a narrow range around a 2 - 3 / 4 per cent level. Since late June, the level has been a little higher, with the range on 3-month Treasury bills running between 2.80 and 3 per cent. Yields on longer term U.S. Government, State and local government, and corporate issues meanwhile declined through midspring and subsequently moved moderately upward, but they remain below earlier highs for the year. Throughout the year, mortgage yields have moved downward. The decline that has taken place in long-term interest rates has reflected in large part the increased availability of funds in long-term sectors http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 5 - of the market, as the rapid increase in time and savings deposits at commercial banks was accompanied by continued large inflows of funds to mutual savings banks and savings and loan associations. Demand for long-term funds, meanwhile, was generally moderate. My comments would be incomplete if I neglected to mention the persistent problem of restoring balance in our international accounts. The problem of domestic expansion is interrelated with our international problems and all of them must be thought about at the same time. The United States has been making progress in reducing its over-all deficit in international transactions. The deficit came down from nearly $4 billion in 1960 to about $2-1/2 billion last year, and to an annual rate of about $1-1/2 billion in the first half of 1962. for complacency. Even so, we have no grounds We have to move further towards international balance next year, and look forward to maintaining equilibrium in the accounts in future years. U. S. foreign trade has developed in an encouraging way this year. Total exports have been rising, with exports to Western European countries especially strong. While imports also have risen, they have not spurted ahead as they did in the preceding period of cyclical expansion and so have remained lower in relation to the gross national product. Both our export and our import, performances would indicate that we have been competing effectively in international trade, and international price trends support this interpretation. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis The level of wholesale prices has been stable in this country for some time, while prices in industrial countries abroad have risen. The merchandise trade surplus, at an annual rate of $5 billion in the first half of 1962, is large but not large enough to match our large net payments for aid, for military expenditures, and for net private U. S. lending and investment abroad. And it would probably be unrealistic to expect the whole of the remaining adjustment to come through yet further expansion of the trade surplus. That is why the Government has been work- ing, both from the procurement side and through negotiations with our allies abroad, to reduce the balance-of-payments burden of our foreign aid and military programs. That is why we have had to pay close attention to the possible effects that monetary and credit policies may have on international movements of capital. Taken together, domestic economic and balance-of-payments developments have posed a problem for monetary policy, but in rny judgment that problem has not constituted as clear cut a dilemma as some observers suggest. While it has been necessary to formulate policy in the light both of the credit needs of the domestic economy and potential effects on international capital movements, it has not been, as is sometimes said, a matter of choosing between domestic and international goals. V/ith the rare exception of a liquidity crisis, it is never helpful to sound recovery or economic expansion to flood credit markets with redundant funds. When resources are not fully employed, credit should be readily available to meet the legitimate needs of commerce, industry and agriculture- http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis as it is now--but no constructive purpose is served by expanding the credit stream to the point where it overflows its banks. So far, we have been able to pursue policies which have not interfered with the ready availability of credit in the domestic market at rates generally about even with those prevailing in early 1961, and in some critical areas substantially lower. At the same time we have generally maintained such short term rate relationships with other major financial markets as to avoid encouraging capital outflows. The fact that we have done and are continuing to do this, as we strive to improve our basic balance-of-payments situation, is bound to strengthen confidence in the dollar at home and abroad. In my judgment, this enhanced confidence is essential if we are tx> solve our balance-of-payments problem and promote domestic prosperity. This leads me to the matter of deficit financing. It now seems most likely that we shall experience some deficit in our budget for fiscal 1963. That deficit would, of course, be increased if the Executive and the Congress determine that it is necessary or desirable to reduce taxes in the current fiscal year. I have stated quite explicitly my belief that such deficits as we may experience, whether they are due to a shortfall of receipts under the existing tax structure, an increase in expenditures, or a reduction in tax rates, should be met by borrowing from the real savings of businesses and individuals, not through the creation of money through the banking system. This does not mean that we will experience less easy conditions in credit markets. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis What happens will depend on many things -- most importantly - 8 - on the rate of activity in the economy: credit conditions may be tighter, or easier, or the same. It is also essential to realize that in the American banking system there is an important distinction to be drawn between bank credit expansion and bank credit creation . The loans and investments of commercial banks in the United States can grow for either of two reasons: one, because people are placing more savings with them in the form of time and savings deposits; or tvo, because of the creation of demand deposits based on additional bank reserves. Hence, bank credit can expand substantially as it did in the first half of 1962, without any significant money creation. Alternatively, there are times when the growth in bank assets has been due almost entirely to money creation. Analysis of these processes would be simpler if we had an institutional structure in this country in which the money creation function was entirely separate from what is called the savings intermediary function-the collection of small savings and their investment for the benefit of depositors, shareholders and policyholders--but that is not the case. To the extent that individuals place their savings with banks, and banks, in turn, invest a part o.f these savings in Government securities, the deficit which led to the issuance of the securities is being financed by real savings just as surely as if tbe individuals had purchased savings bonds in the first instance. A second consideration is that a certain amount of money creation to meet the legitimate needs of a growing economy is a necessary and normal http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 9 - function of the banking system, and it is expected reserves will be provided for expansion to meet such needs. assets Some part of the normal growth in banks' which accompanies this money supply expansion must, as a simple matter of banking prudence, take the form of additions to the secondary reserves of the banking system, which consist largely of Government securities. Additions to banks' holdings of Government securities due to either of these causes do not represent the financing of Government deficits with bank created or printing press money, are not inflationary, and do not pose any threat to the soundness of the dollar. What would be damaging to the strength of the dollar would be the deliberate expansion of the credit base, above and beyond the needs of the economy, in order to provide a ready market for the Government's borrowing. This was done in the United States during World War H, and in other countries both at that time and during the economic chaos that followed. being done in some unfortunate countries today. It is still The results have invariably been bad, and have ranged from damaging, as they were here, to nearly disastrous, as they have been in some other countries. The process of withdrawal and correction is always painful and difficult. Typically, this sort of "printing press" financing takes the form of direct sales of short-term Government securities to the banks with a parallel expansion of bank demand deposits supported by reserves provided freely through the central bank. However, it can take subtler forms. The financing of the Government debt on a balanced maturity basis, with a substantial part in http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 1C - longer term bonds, is desirable for a number of reasons. But sound debt management decisions by the Treasury do not necessarily assure that deficits will not be financed by bank credit creation. Shifts in holdings among market participants can mean that the Government is, in effect, borrowing newly created money, even though the particular securities it sells go into the hands of savings institutions. This is what happens when long-term rates are "pegged" below the level market forces would establish, In the final analysis, the only sure safeguard against the financing of deficits through bank credit creation lies in the control exercised by the central bank over the process by which bank credit and money are created by the banking system. As I have said, the Federal Reserve is determined to provide, on the one hand, the reserves needed to support the necessary and healthy expansion of bank credit and money required to meet the needs of a growing economy, and on the other, not to again become entangled in the vicious circle of financing Government deficits with bank credit created solely for that purpose. In closing, let me summarize as specifically as I can our view with respect to the economic situation today. All in all, the performance of the economy has been disappointing in that it failed to reach the goals set for it by some and predicted for it by others. The economy has withstood, and gone forward, after some rather severe shocks -- last fall an auto strike, this year a major steel inventory http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 11 adjustment and the sharpest stock market break since the Great Depression -but it has not achieved the levels of manpower or physical resource utilization we would all like to see. On the other hand, the latest data do not, in our judgment, confirm that we have reached or passed a turning point in the cycle at this time. The most likely possibility in the weeks and months just ahead seems to be for a continuation of mixed movements in the more sensitive indicators and some further growth in the broad aggregate measures of economic activities. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - C - - EIGHTY-SEVENTH CONGRESS WILBUR D. MILLS, ARK., CHAIRMAN CECIL ft. KING, CALIF. THOMAS J. O'BRIEN, ILL. HALE BOGGS, LA. EUGENE J. KEOGH, N.Y. NOAH M. MASON, BURR P. HARRISON, VA. FRANK M. KARSTEN, MO. A. S. HERLONG, JR., FLA. VICTOR A. KNOX, MICH. JAMES B. UTT, CALIF. JACKSON E. BETTS, OHIO WILLIAM J. GREEN, JR., PA. STEVEN B. DEROUNIAN, N.Y. JOHN C. WATTS, KY. AL ULLMAN, OREG. JAMES A. BURKE, MASS. HERMAN T. SCHNEEBELI, PA. CLARK W. THOMPSON, TEX. MARTHA W. GRIFFITHS, MICH. ILL. JOHN W. BYRNES, WIS. HOWARD H. BAKER, TENN. THOMAS B. CURTIS, MO. COMMITTEE ON WAYS AND MEANS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES WASHINGTON, D.C. JOHN M. MARTIN, JR., WILLIAM H. QUEALY, ASSISTANT CHIEF COUNSEL GERARD M. BRANNON, MINORITY LEO H. IRWIN, CHIEF COUNS RAYMOND F. CONKLING, ALFRED R. MCCAULEY, July 27, 1962 PROFESSIONAL STAFF The Honorable William McChesney Martin, Jr. Chairman of the Board of Governors Federal Reserve System Washington 25, B. C* Dear Mr* Chairman: As you have been informally advisedt the Committee on Ways and Means has initiated a series of executive sessions to receive the views and observations of a number of invited experts on the state of the economy. The purpose of this letter is to extend to you an invitation to appear before the Committee some time during the week of August 6 so that the Committee may have the benefit of your views, in closed session, on this subject. Hie precise date and time of your appearance can be worked out by your staffs and the Chief Counsel of the Committee. For your information, I am enclosing a list of the experts who have been invited by the Committee to appear during the course of these closed sessions. This list has not been released by the Committee to the public. Also for your information, I am enclosing a copy of my letter to these participants in which 1 have set forth a series of questions. These questions may be useful to you. This letter likewise has not been released to the public by the Committee. Sincerely yours, WDN:jmk http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis V THERE FOLLOWS A COPY OF THE IDENTICAL LETTERS SENT TO EACH PARTICIPANT IN THE CURRENT DISCUSSIONS: Dear : The Committee on Ways and Means has decided to hold a series of discussions in executive (closed) sessions to examine the current economic outlook. These discussions will be limited to invited witnesses. The Committee will sincerely appreciate it if you can participate in these discussions. We are attempting to obtain the views of persons representing a cross section of the American economy on both our short-range and long-range economic outlook. These discussions will be of an informational type and will not look toward any specific legislative action. However, we are seeking any recommendations as to possible ways of improving our economic outlook. If it should be decided by the Committee at some later date that any problems which may be facing the economy call for legislation within the jurisdiction of the Committee, public hearings will be held at that time on specific proposals. As you will recall, in the last recession it was decided to accelerate Government spending. In recent weeks, there has been considerable discussion of the possibility of enacting substantial tax cuts as a means of bolstering the economy. This, of course, is a subject within the jurisdiction of our Committee. There are also many who feel that any tax cuts should be based on decreases in Government spending0 For the purpose of the current discussions it is requested that your statement be limited to the immediate and long-range economic outlook, with any suggestions you may have as to means of bolstering the overall economy. To be most useful to the Committee, it is suggested that you confine your remarks to this subject. This means that it will not be necessary nor helpful to the Committee at this time to restate the position of an organization as to any tax, etc., recommendations which are primarily of interest just to certain segments of the economy. Among other things, it is suggested you cover the following topics in your statement: (1) If there is no change in the Government's fiscal policy, what will be the developments with respect to employment, income and profits in the economy over the next four calendar quarters and with respect to the longer range? (2) If a change is required in Government fiscal policy for the next four quarters and the long range, what changes do you suggest? Do you feel that any legislative or administrative action by way of an acceleration in Government spending, tax cut, etc., should be taken at this time? If so, please give us your reasons for reaching your conclusions* (3) Does the outlook call for general tax reduction at this time? If so, what should be the size of the tax reduction and when should it go into effect? (4) How would a tax reduction at the present time affect the prospects for employment, income, prices, and profits? (5) How would a tax reduction and the change in economic activity affect the revenue outlook over the present fiscal year and over the next several years? (6) Should tax reduction at the present time be designated as a temporary reduction or should the reduced rates be made part of the permanent law? http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis ^ « 2(7) What should be the proportion o£ reduction going in the general area of individual income taxes, corporate income taxes, or excises? (8) What would be the impact of a major tax reduction at the present time on interest rates and the balance of payments? (9) Would it be better to avoid a loss of revenue through tax reduction until such loss could be coupled with overall tax reform, including reform of the rate structure? If you desire, it would be helpful to the Committee and the staff to furnish us with 35 copies of your statement. Your statement will not be released to the public when presented. However, a stenographic record will be kept and the Committee will decide later whether or not to make this record public. You will have the opportunity to make any comments you may want to off the record so that they will not be made public. Under the rules and procedures of the House, if you desire, you will be reimbursed for your expanses in connection with your appearance at the rate of 12 cents a mile and $16 per diem. The Committee staff in Room 1102 will take the details as to your reimbursement and secure your signature on a voucher. It is requested that you summarize your position in a statement of reasonable length. We will accept for the record a full statement of your views and any explanatory material which you consider relevant. We will sincerely appreciate your participation in these discussions. It will represent an important service to the Committee. If you can appear, please advise us so your schedule can be worked out. The meetings will be held in our Main Hearing Room, first floor, New House Office Building. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Sincerely yours, (signed) Wilbur D. Mills Chairman TENTATIVE LIST OF EXPERTS INVITED TO APPEAR BEFORE COMMITTEE ON WAYS AND MEANS IN EXECUTIVE DISCUSSIONS ON STATUS OF THE ECONOMY, BEGINNING THURSDAY, JULY 26, 1962 - IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER* Henry C. Alexander, Chairman of the Board, Morgan Guaranty Trust Company, New York, N. Y. Hon. Robert Anderson, Carl M. Rhoades Loeb and Co., New York, N.Y. Elliot Bell, Editor and Publisher, Business Week, New York, N.Y, Edward M. Bernstein, Consulting Economist on International Finance, Washington, D. C. Hon. Roy Blough, Columbia University, New York, N.Y. Hon. Arthur Burns, National Bureau of Economic Research, New York, N. Y. William Butler, Economist, Chase Manhattan Bank, New York, N.Y. Gerhard Co1m, Chief Economist, National Planning Association, Washington, D. C. Hon. Joseph Dodge, The Detroit Bank, Detroit, Michigan Frederick Goodrich, Exec. Vice President, United States Trust Co., New York, N.Y. Crawford H. Greenewalt, President, duPont Company, Wilmington, Del. John Gurley, Stanford University, Palo Alto, California George C. Hagedorn, Director, Research Dept., National Association of Manufacturers, New York, N. Y. W. E. Hamilton, Director of Research, American Farm Bureau, Chicago, Illinois Walter Hoadley, Economist, Armstrong Cork Co., Lancaster, Penna. Reuben L. Johnson, Assoc. Director, Farmers Union, Washington, D«C. Dexter Keezer, Economist, McGraw-Hill Publishing Co., New York, N.Y. John Lintner, School of Business Administration, Harvard University, Cambridge, Mass. George Meany, President, AFL-CIO, Washington, D. C. Geoffrey Moore, National Bureau of Economic Research, New.York, N.Y, Richard Musgrave, Princeton University, Princeton, N.J. Robert R. Nathan, Consulting Economist, Washington, D. C. James J, O'Leary, Vice Pres. and Director of Research, Life Insurance Association of America, New York, N, Y. Joseph A. Pechman, Director of Economic Studies, Brookings Institution, Washington, D, C. H. Ladd Plumley, President, United States Chamber of Commerce, Washington, D. C* Stanley H, Ruttenberg, Research Director, AFL-CIO, Washington, D.C. Hon. Raymond Saulnier, Columbia University, New York, N. Y, Charles L. Schultze, University of Maryland, College Park, Md. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 2Murray Shields, Investment Analyst, MacKay Shields Financial Corporation, New York, N. Y. Arthur A. Smith, Vice President and Economist, First National Bank, Dallas, Texas Philip Sporn, President, American Electric Power, Inc., New York, N. Y. Walter Stark, Vice President, Loomis Sayles & Co., Boston, Mass. George Terborgh, Research Director, Machinery & Allied Products Institute, Washington, D. C. Charls E. Walker, Exec. Vice President, American Bankers Assoc., New York, N. Y. Frazer Wilde, Chairman of the Board, Connecticut General Life Insurance Co., Hartford, Conn. Theodore 0. Yntema, Vice President, Ford Motor Company, Dearborn, Michigan * ** GOVERNMENT REPRESENTATIVES Hon. Hon. Hon. Hon. From C. Douglas Dillon, Secretary of the Treasury Arthur J. Goldberg, Secretary of Labor Luther H. Hodges, Secretary of Commerce David E. Bell, Director, Bureau of the Budget the Council of Economic Advisers: Hon. Walter W. Heller, Chairman From the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System: Hon. William McChesney Martin, Jr. , Chairman http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis * * ** • Charlsft*teUlu I. A. My sgadssjtialo ft. idoatify ay C. Off*the roaord qeestioa as to grata* il relest <3t*ir**a'» letter stftted Gsaartttoe voald decide whet testimony to releeso; * as»spspsr stated vitoaooos oosld control what, if say, to b« released*-vhst ere grooBd rales JU this respect? a* the ejaoatiOBS that the CesBHLttee is eoasideria§ havs coo* •M for * MMl»or of vook*, I to4 roeoxtly out iato writiag my oaojoet *** 4oliv«ro4 tlMB *« * o»o*efc. 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I voald aaphaaisa four iblo http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis A fellare, oaring tko postwar period aa a vbole, to keep apotitiye, witb toe raoalt ta*t foreiga pro* too vide a e oad 01 ia rodoral revoaaea vhich: althaagh pdloal, tea do ia a reeovory to top fall recovery ia A tax •trvetvre vbica, bacaaoe of oxtroaoly bigb iadividaai rates, toads to stifle tao inceative sad ia* tbat eoaatitoto tao driviag fores ia a free atarket A deterioration in ooafidoace oa tho part of deanstic businoss* aws oad iavoators at a tiaw vhea foroiaja eoafidoacs ia tho dollar is aaytttint bat robust — this is the factor aot heretofore prevent in the pootwar period, sad oas whioh I think s«•trrv** *p*«isl «*^Hssis -* tnd««d, in aieny ways it is the key *H<*t "*«il -1* IU. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis to •«< 3, fit fi*Mi if 43 •UNM to lift tofUit cool* tar ftfe* it la, A TAX CVT *T EM tO Tffff •ATTtti http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis ttMM «c* fftttiag to*, (lapitait t« this *•«••» 1* that « tWOXWy <Wtf WM&4 fc^ tMt ttC CiM <[mi t! 1.OM.) 2. 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Title: A Tax Cut This Summer?--Some Neglected Considerations: Remarks before the Southwestern Graduate School of Banking, Southern Methodist University, Dallas, Texas Date: July 16, 1962 http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Dear Fred: Thank you for sending me your statement before the Ways and Means Committee and the memorandum, 'Prospects for Dollar Devaluation," both of which X read carefully. A» you may know, I am scheduled t© go before the Committee on this Thursday. With all good wishes, Cordially yours, *icC. Martin, Jr. Mr. Frederick K, Goodrich, Executive Vice President, United States Trust Company of Hew York, 45 Wall Street, Hew York S, Hew York. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis c c United States ©rust (tfompantj of Neuj l|ork 45 WALL STREET- NEW YORK 5, N Y FREDERICK N. GOODRICH H AN OV ER 2-4 6OO July30, 1962 E X E C U T I V E VICE PRESIDENT http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Dear Bill: It was good to talk to you on Friday and to hear your comments on current trends. As you requested, I am enclosing a copy of my statement to the Ways and Means Committee. I am also sending along a copy of a recent memorandum we prepared on dollar devaluation. With my appreciation and best regards, Cordially, Mr. William McC. Martin, Chairman Board of Governors Federal Reserve System Washington, D. C 0 C ( NOT FOR RELEASE http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Statement before the Committee on Ways and Means of the House of Representatives 87th Congress, Second Session on July 27, 1962 by Frederick N. Goodrich, Executive Vice President United States T r u s t Company of New Y o r k on 'The Economic Outlook: Comments and Suggestions' Introduction My name is Frederick N. Goodrich. I am an Executive Vice President and the Chief Investment Officer of the United States Trust Company of New York. My Company is an independent banking institution which for over a century has managed the private wealth of individuals, families and institutions. Our interest in investments is of a long term nature. As one whose responsibilities focus on the Trust Company's investment policies and on our economic studies, my interests in our economy include both the long term problems affecting our growth and healthy balance and also the more immediate problems which can upset our long t e r m development. Like your- selves, we at the Trust Company have a deep interest in a growing economy, a strong dollar, and a stable domestic and international society. Economic Outlook In the absence of strongly favorable Government action, we anticipate at least a moderate recession in production, employment and p r o f i t s , beginning within the next few weeks or months and lasting for the next 12 months or longer. The major immediate factors which will bring about the decline are the damage to consumer and business purchasing power from the drop in equity prices, the weakening of confidence in the ability of business to operate http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 2 - as profitably as had been hoped, and the cumulative impact of consumer, business, stock market, and psychological trends on each other. While the "built-in stabilizers" of Government expenditures, unemployment payments, and lower tax collections resulting from lower corporate and individual incomes will help restrain the decline, they will not be able, at the present high tax rates, to cope with the developing situation of inadequate effective demand. To be specific, we expect a reduction in retail sales, business inventories, and residential construction, and a faltering and later decline in business capital expenditures. A decline in business would bring a weakening of confidence in the dollar and in all probability an accelerated outflow of gold, trends which would be aggravated by a continuing reliance on "easy" monetary policies as an economic stimulus. These events should be forestalled b e f o r e they cause undesirable chain reactions in the economy and in the security and foreign exchange markets. Whether or not the anticipated recession proves to be serious, we have been for some years in a period of inadequate economic growth and of considerably less than full use of our physical and human r e s o u r c e s . Effective economic demand has been inadequate despite sharply expanded Government spending. Unless there is a change in the Government's fiscal policies involving substantial tax reduction and a new restraint in spending, combined with other policies encouraging to business confidence, we expect economic activity to continue well below par for some y e a r s to come. The results of inadequate economic production will be living standards below what http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis c c . - 3 they should be, excessive unemployment, and greater difficulty in carrying out our international role. Basic economic problems of immediate concern Our concern here is with basic problems which need n e a r - t e r m action. We will not discuss such longer term problems as population changes, foreign competition, international economic burdens and the absence of a satisfactory international monetary system. We support f r e e r trade, encouragement to investment abroad, and improvement in international monetary arrangements. However, the maintenance of our immediate equilibrium and p r o g r e s s is essential both to the national welfare and strength and to the working out of desirable solutions for the longer term problems. The following basic problems should guide n e a r - t e r m Governmental action: 1. Wage costs continuing to rise beyond productivity. -- Wage guide-lines which are too high and which are not being sufficiently acceptea by labor are a discouraging contrast to price levels under both competitive and Government p r e s s u r e s . This problem is aggravated by labor practices restricting productivity which boost wage costs and inhibit economic growth. 2. The taxation system. -- Excessive personal and corporation income tax rates r e s t r i c t purchasing power and curtail incentives. 3. The continuing adverse balance of international payments. -- Our adverse balances and gold outflow are not only a threat to the international position of the dollar but are also a depressant to confidence and to http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 4 - domestic economic trends. 4. The declines in stock prices from high levels. -- The prolonged advances in equity prices have supported purchasing power and provided a base for borrowing. While a correction was inevitable, confidence in economic growth with reasonable profits and tax treatment would justify present or higher average stock prices. Substantial further declines would seriously undermine confidence and purchasing power. 5. The huge increases in total private debts from about $140 billion in 1945 to $630 billion currently. much of the postwar expansion. -- These debts have financed This long period of rapid private debt expansion has weakened the financial strength of an increasing number of borrowers. It is essential that the diminished reservoir of eager credit- worthy borrowers be replenished by tax reduction and by confidence. Otherwise we face deflation and an excessive dependence on Federal borrowing. Policies recommended for best solutions 1. Restraint on wage increases is needed because of the near-monopolistic powers which Government has permitted labor to achieve. The long range solution is amendment to the Federal labor laws to correct these excessive powers. Lacking such action, we must for the near term be satisfied with "moral" restraint in an atmosphere of f r e e collective bargaining. However, it is essential that the Government recognize the difference between restraining the d e g r e e of wage i n c r e a s e s won by a monopolistic position and attempting to control prices which are arrived at competitively. support Government policies to a s s u r e full competition. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis We fully Assuming that - 5competitive conditions prevail, we consider it essential to confidence and the functioning of our economy that the Government not i n t e r f e r e with pricing. Government policies regarding labor and business should encourage productivity in every practical way. The Government should emphasize to all concerned that purchasing power derives primarily from production and only secondarily from financial arrangements. Labor practices aimed at spreading the work inhibit production, t h e r e f o r e reduce purchasing power, and become an important root cause of unemployment. 2. Reduction in excessive personal income tax rates is urgently needed to increase purchasing power and to spur incentives. tax rates also need to be reduced to improve profitability, capital investment. Corporate income confidence and While some income tax escape provisions may need to be tightened, the basic economic need is for substantial net tax reduction. In our opinion, the amount of tax reduction needed promptly is in the neighborhood of $10 billion annually. We recommend that the reduction be designated as permanent rather than temporary. three-fourths We believe that some of the reduction should be in individual income taxes and the remainder in corporate income taxes. As a general guide-line, we would suggest an approximate 15% a c r o s s - t h e - b o a r d cut in individual income tax rates, an additional reduction in the r e p r e s s i v e high bracket rates which produce but little revenue, and an approximate 10% cut in c o r p o r a t e income tax r a t e s . We believe that the reduction should become effective either immediately or retroactively to July 1, 1962. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 6 We urge that tax reduction not be delayed for tax r e f o r m . When in the future the Congress may a g r e e on the tightening of certain tax provisions to promote equitable treatment and produce additional revenue, income tax rates should then be f u r t h e r reduced and business depreciation charges should be further liberalized. Reduction in taxes should be accompanied by solid indications of restraint in Government spending. We do not expect a reduction in Federal expenditures nor do we make this a condition of our recommendation for tax reduction. However, indications that unnecessary expenditures will be avoided and that any f u r t h e r increases in spending will be limited to essentials are much needed to provide confidence in our economy and our c u r r e n c y . At present levels of Federal taxation and expenditures, tax reduction would be far more stimulating to the economy than larger Governmental expenditures. Not only would the major portion of the tax reduction be expended, but the stimulus to confidence, to investment, and to the base for needed private borrowing would be highly favorable. The end results of this stimulus would be g r e a t e r production, employment, national income and business p r o f i t s . The overall price t r e n d s , including the cost-of-living index, should not be much a f f e c t e d since g r e a t e r production should be readily available to meet the g r e a t e r demand. In this connection, it should be observed that increasing price and cost levels in recent years have not been caused in any significant d e g r e e by Government fiscal policies but have been f o r c e d by the near-monopolistic powers of labor http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis ( C - 7 - unions. Tax reduction should not be avoided because of the misapprehension that a temporarily larger Federal deficit would be inflationary under present circumstances of inadequate demand and of under-utilization of our productive plant and manpower. The resulting Federal deficit would be in part promptly r e c o v e r e d by the expansion of activity and incomes. Under conditions where savings, including the potentially larger savings from larger production and incomes, are not being fully absorbed by private and local borrowing, some new Federal borrowing is needed. It should be well understood that this approach to temporary deficit financing should be embraced in conjunction with other policies essential to a sound dollar and to confidence: primarily, stronger monetary policies, restraint in Government spending, and general policies encouraging to f r e e competitive enterprise. As economic activity approached reasonable capacity, given the proposed level of taxation and restraint in Government spending, we estimate that the Federal budget would show a surplus. 3. Stronger monetary policies are urgently needed. This view was widely expressed by leading international economists during and following the recent Rome monetary meetings. The doctrine that "easy" money stimulates economic activity and employment under almost all economic conditions has been c a r r i e d much too f a r . W e s t e r n European c o u n t r i e s have in recent y e a r s used strong monetary policies as an essential ingredient of a favorable balance of payments, confidence and a vigorously growing economy. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis ( C - 8 - The maintenance of substantial f r e e reserves in the banking system is unsound under conditions of a continuing adverse payments balance and gold outflow. Not only do excessively easy monetary policies aggravate the outflow of funds, but they also thereby damage confidence in the dollar and in the American economy far more than they act as a potential domestic stimulus. Given tax reduction and other encouragements to the economy, stronger monetary policies would serve as the balance to stimulate the proper channeling of savings and would, together with more confidence in our economic trend, become major f o r c e s toward promoting domestic and international confidence. It has become a great American fallacy to think of low interest rates as good and high interest rates as bad. being somewhat more savers than b o r r o w e r s , low rates than from high rates. The mass of the American people, certainly benefit no more from The fallacy is accompanied by a great over- emphasis on interest rates as a cause of domestic economic trends. actuality, interest rates are much more a result than a cause. In They normally are and should be the result of the relationship between the supply of savings and the demand for investment funds. This relationship is closely allied to the supply and demand f a c t o r s in the economy. we tend to have lower interest rates. have higher interest rates. When supply exceeds demand, When demand exceeds supply, we tend to A permanently depressed economy would be the best possible prescription for lower i n t e r e s t r a t e s . The obvious good thing about higher interest rates is that they are a natural result of strong demand and good times. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis ( C - 9 - International position of the dollar The overall e f f e c t s of lower income taxes, moderation in spending, an economy strongly moving ahead and higher i n t e r e s t r a t e s , would be strongly favorable to the international position of the dollar. truly balanced budget is a highly desirable goal. of payments will be far vigorous economy. A However, the balance more influenced by whether or not we have a This is true, despite the higher imports associated with a vigorous economy, because of the spur to confidence and the encouragement to long-term corporate and individual investments in this country. Furthermore, such conditions of high activity and confidence would lead to the stronger monetary policies and higher i n t e r e s t rates which attract foreign and domestic funds. Private and public debts There is a broad need in responsible private and governmental q u a r t e r s for a better understanding of the position of debt in our economy. There is a similar need for better understanding of the vital relationship between savings and investments. For example, if new corporate and individual savings are not matched by new investment, much of which takes the f o r m of debt, some of the purchasing power resulting f r o m production will not be used, and a decline in both production and purchasing power will result. Total p r i v a t e , municipal and Federal debts amount to about $1,000 billion, an amount somewhat less than twice the c u r r e n t g r o s s http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis f C - 10 - national product and well in line with average past relationships between total debts and the gross national product. In 1961 total debts rose by over $50 billion, the major part of the increase of course being in private debts. Since 1945 increases in private debts have been more than ten times the increase in Federal debt. If in the years ahead the gross national product is to rise at an average of 4 to 5% a year, it will be necessary for total debts to rise by no less than $40 to $50 billion a year. Without such increases we would go into a strongly deflationary period, a deflation which would be greatly aggravated by the probable continued increase in wage costs. Moreover, continuing declines in equity values would result in substantial liquidation of debts. The interacting deflations of values and of debts would create adverse trends of considerable consequence. In a prosperous economy the net increases in individual and corporate debts, together with small increases in municipal debts, would fully carry the load. Our tax rates should of course be set at levels which would provide a Federal budget surplus under conditions of full employment and reasonable maximum use of our economic capacity. Without such a prosperous economy we will certainly be facing a Federal deficit. If the recession is permitted to develop its potential, the deficit in the 1963-64 fiscal year could easily approach $20 billion. Imaginative tax reduction would forestall this kind of weak fiscal experience accompanied by weak business, employment and foreign exchange conditions. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 11 Conclusion A substantial tax reduction is urgently needed to forestall declining and interacting trends in business and personal incomes, in private debts and psychology, and in the security and f o r e i g n exchange •• markets. A renewed business upswing within the next year, made possible by prompt tax reduction and recovery of confidence, would provide the background for stronger monetary policies and higher i n t e r e s t rates. Stronger monetary conditions should be permitted to develop promptly to aid the balance of payments and our international flow of funds and thereby in turn to help domestic confidence. These policies, together with restraint in Government spending and other steps favorable to a f r e e competitive system, would greatly support economic conditions, confidence, and their interaction. With the economy again moving ahead, the Government could concentrate on encouraging both business and labor to develop maximum productivity as the only basic source of purchasing power and of national economic strength. /eMc http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis ED STATES TRUST COMPANY OF NEW YORK July 19, 1962 Prospects for Dollar Devaluation Expectations of devaluation Dollar devaluation has been a recurring topic of financial discussion for the past 15 years. During the last 4 or 5 years, those who expect devaluation have been impressed by our continuing though relatively moderate adverse balance of payments and loss of gold. The recent stock market break has brought renewed interest and speculation on this question. Present discussion of dollar devaluation generally r e f e r s to devaluation in terms of gold, i. e. , an increase in the established gold price of $35 an ounce. The principal argument advanced for expecting that a higher price will be either forced by events or voluntarily adopted is the presumed insufficient quantity of gold for international liquidity. Those who expect devaluation in terms of gold may or may not expect devaluation in terms of other major currencies. However, it is generally assumed that the other currencies would be devalued along with the dollar. There is some occasional discussion of dollar devaluation in terms of other strong currencies on the grounds that our production costs are too high and that the dollar has inadequate relative purchasing power. However, this possibility appears increasingly unlikely as European prices rise more rapidly than ours and the West German and Dutch have come to regret even their modest 5% revaluations of early 1961. Nature of the problem B e f o r e discussing the major factors in the position of the dollar as we see them, we should emphasize that the future international position of any currency is by no means altogether predictable. While we believe that the prospects for dollar devaluation continue to be remote, we would point out that an all important factor is confidence. In order to maintain confidence and the full international value of the dollar, restrictions on its use and f r e e exchange must be avoided. With f r e e movements permitted, it is always possible that loss of confidence in internal political or economic conditions could cause sufficient movements of both foreign funds and http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis UNITED STATES TRUST COMPANY -2- OF NEW YORK domestically owned balances to put unbearable strain on the dollar and bring about either outright devaluation or its equivalent through embargoes and restrictions. While such a loss of confidence in the dollar must remain possible, it is our opinion that the strength of the dollar in terms of productivity, comparative price trends, large foreign investments, military power and potential use of untapped reserves is great -- great enough so that devaluation seems most unlikely in the foreseeable future. In discussing the prospects for devaluation, we will divide our comments into two main sections: 1 8 ) discussion of the position of gold, international liquidity, and the functioning of the dollar as a r e s e r v e currency; and 2. ) an outline of the reserve strengths of the dollar position. 1. Position of gold, international liquidity and the functioning of the dollar as a r e s e r v e currency a. ) Position of gold In considering the likelihood of a higher price for gold -- many gold minded commentators speak of prices from $50 to $75 an ounce --, we should understand not only the trends affecting the dollar and the U. S. economy, but we should also understand the weaknesses in the position of gold. Gold retains some of its former monetary position by functioning as part of the monetary reserves behind the principal currencies and by serving as a convenient measuring stick for these currencies. It retains these functions because of its historic use as money and because adequate substitute arrangements have not been formed. However, gold is no longer the world's money in any basic sense: 1. ) its non-monetary use is less than 20% of newly mined production, a fact which totally unfits it for continuing in the long run as the world's money; and 2. ) the money used by the citizens of nearly every country of the world is not directly convertible into gold. The price of $35 an ounce established in 1934 was an arbitrary price. It is clear that it was an arbitrarily high price in relation to intrinsic value since the great subsequent losses in the purchasing power of the dollar have not brought about a higher price. If gold had had a real value of $35 an ounce in the 1930's, it is obvious that the subsequent U. S. inflation would have by now forced a much higher price. The gold situation cannot be properly interpreted without an understanding of the following essential points: 1. ) Only a small fraction of the new annual production of gold, to say nothing of the far vaster accumulated http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis UNITED STATHS TRUST COMPANY -3- OF NEW YORK supplies, are wanted for useful purposes other than hoarding or as "reserves". 2. ) The purpose in acquiring gold is t h e r e f o r e mainly for resale when the price has gone up. 3. ) The market for any commodity is on weak foundations when the greatest part of its buying and holding is for resale at hoped for higher prices. It is for these reasons that the U. S. Government has so far had no real difficulty in maintaining a stable price for gold despite a major war and substantial postwar inflation. Gold, of course, does have inherent useful value, although certainly well below $35 an ounce. Given sufficient further loss of dollar purchasing power, there could come a point where gold would become truly preferable to dollars and a gold price rise would occur. At the present juncture, however, it is our judgment that the dollar and the U. S. Government have considerable room for action before there will be any occasion to increase the already excessive price of gold. b. ) International liquidity A principal argument advanced for increasing the price of gold is that this would aid international liquidity. Free world central bank and government holdings of gold now aggregating some $41 billion would be substantially increased in terms of dollars by the stroke of a pen. In our opinion, this view completely misunderstands both the position of gold and the factors which bring liquidity. Liquidity cannot be enhanced for any appreciable length of time by arbitrarily marking up the nominal value of a little used metal. Liquidity, either international or domestic, depends on the confidence that economic groups have in the claims they hold against each other. For example, a community has liquidity if its banks have sufficient confidence in the community to make an adequate volume of loans and if at the same time the members of the community have sufficient confidence in the banks to hold and employ as money the deposits resulting from the loans made by the banks. Similarly, international liquidity consists principally of the claims which various countries and their citizens hold on each other and their confidence in the purchasing power and convertibility of these claims into desired goods and services or into other desired currencies. Various international arrangements, such as the International Monetary Fund and supplementary monetary agreements, are of course necessary for the functioning of the international system. But fundamentally the system and its liquidity is a network of claims and of confidence in those claims. Gold, for example, is today mainly a way of holding claims on other countries and http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis UNITED STATES TRUST COMPANY -4- OF NEW YORK principally on the United States which underwrites the fixed dollar-gold relationship. Without the continued cooperation of the United States these claims in the form of gold could not be exercised at $35 an ounce. For the United States to arbitrarily increase the size of these claims by increasing the gold price would weaken its position, promote long term inflation and contribute nothing permanent to international liquidity. c. ) Dollar as r e s e r v e currency The role of the dollar as the key r e s e r v e currency is a central factor in today's international arrangements. Foreign dollar reserves are now more basic than sterling as both the supplement and support to gold reserves. It is certainly true that the expansion of the world's dollar holdings -- the other side of our adverse balance of payments -- .should in the future be kept quite moderate. However, some further increase, perhaps in the neighborhood of 2 to 4% annually, or between $400 million and $750 million a year, will probably prove desirable as the United States continues to expand its foreign investments. That amount of increased deposits on the world's principal banker should be desirable. If the purchasing power of the dollar continues more stable than that of the other leading currencies, a moderate expansion of balances could almost certainly take place without weakening confidence in the dollar and could make a useful contribution to international liquidity. 2. Reserve strengths of the dollar position a. ) The United States has at present a favorable merchandise trade balance of $4 to $5 billion annually. In addition, we have a net favorable balance of earnings on investment assets of approximately $2 1/2 billion. It is true that these amounts have not been sufficient to offset net long term investments, foreign aid and military expenditures abroad. However, exclusive of movements of short term funds, the adverse balance has been reduced to a rate in the neighborhood of $1 billion annually. Not only has there been a trend toward a smaller basic adverse balance during the past three years, but some part of the remaining smaller adverse balance should prove desirable in the interests of international liquidity. As for the fluctuating but recurring outflow of short term funds, the actual course of events is difficult to predict. Nevertheless, unless confidence in the American economy and in the future purchasing power of the dollar were to deteriorate far more than we think the facts will justify, we feel that there is no problem of short term movements that higher interest rates will not cure. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis UNITED STATKS TRUST COMPANY -5- OF NEW YORK b. ) The continued expansion of American private long term investments abroad has been a factor in the adverse payments balance. However, the fact that Americans are expanding their corporate and individual long term holdings abroad by some $2 billion a year in excess of the increase of foreign holdings here is a great source of future strength to the dollar. Private American long term investments abroad have a total value of at least $50 billion in comparison with private foreign long term investments here of about $20 billion. Even if all outstanding short term claims, private and governmental, are added to these private investments (while excluding both the gold and long term claims held by the United States Government), total American holdings abroad exceed foreign holdings h e r e by at least $15 billion. It is poor analysis to think of short term foreign dollar claims as being held exclusively against our gold. These claims are against a "bank" whose gold holdings of $16 billion (plus its IMF quota of $4 billion) are minor assets compared either to its foreign investments or to its great wealth and productive power. c. ) Our net military expenditures abroad of some $2 1/2 billion annually obviously constitute an important factor in the adverse payments balance. However, not only is our favorable balance of trade able to pay much of these and other expenditures, but we should not lose sight of military strength as a source of strength to the dollar. Our military leadership of the West adds substantially to our bargaining power with any governments which might attempt to f o r c e us to raise the price of gold against our wishes. In actuality, the trend among the European governments is toward cooperation on currency matters. P r e s s u r e for this cooperation will continue strong both because of our economic and investment strength and because of the necessity of political and military cooperation. d. ) It is important to note that price levels are rising more slowly in the United States than in other leading countries. Overall price trends including services are rising here by not much over 1% annually, whereas increases of 2 1/2 to 5% annually are taking place in Europe. While the labor situation here leaves much to be desired, our annual increases in wage costs are closer to productivity gains then in most other Western countries. It is true that our price and wage cost levels are higher than in these other countries. However, this has been so for a long time and is partly due to our more fully developed economy. We have over the years had favorable trade and payments balances even with an unfavorable gap in purchasing power. Today, as the other countries catch up in their development, they are also gradually catching up in their price levels. Our improved trade balances of the last three years in some part reflect this narrowing process, http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis UNITED STATES TRUST COMPANY OF NEW YORK e. ) An important aspect of the r e s e r v e strength of the dollar is the fact that interest rate levels have so far had only minor use in defense of the dollar,, This has been true in part because of the political tendency toward easy monetary policies in this country and in part because the need for use of interest rates in defense of the dollar has not yet been at all acute. The mild tendency during the past year and one half toward slightly higher short term rates, while continuing quite easy monetary policies, has been little more than a token of what can be accomplished through higher interest rates. We now believe that higher interest rates will be used in defense of the dollar when necessary. Sufficiently higher short term rates would stop or reverse the recurring outward flow of short term funds. Somewhat higher long term rates are also expected, when market and exchange conditions require them, to discourage excessive foreign borrowing and to help attract investment funds. It will be important, of course, to accompany stronger monetary policies with well conceived action, including tax reduction, to spur the domestic economy. A strong economic trend encourages both higher interest rates and international confidence. Policies intended to stimulate the economy will almost certainly be adopted by the Administration within the next few months or year. The Government action to be expected may well be too little and too late to do more than mitigate the course of the recession. Nevertheless, we believe that the underlying strength of our economy and production system, together with stronger monetary policies, will provide adequate strength against dollar devaluation. Conclusion While many factors argue against devaluation, we recognize the importance of the sensitive matter of confidence. We also recognize the prospects for a business recession which, without fully effective Administration action, could be the most severe of the postwar period. If a r e c e s s i o n does become prolonged, it would make the position of the dollar more difficult both through the damage to confidence and through the encouragement of continued easy monetary policies. Despite these uncertainties and difficulties in the period ahead, it remains our strong opinion that devaluation continues to be unlikely. The reasons we discussed above may be briefly summarized: 1. An increase in the price of gold seems unlikely in part because of the comparatively small proportion of the metal's supplies acquired for actual use. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis UNITED STATHS TRUST COMPANY -7- OF NEW YORK 2. Devaluation of the dollar in terms of other major currencies is becoming increasingly unlikely as price and cost trends abroad increase more rapidly than here. 3. The large and growing total of American investments abroad is a strong support for the dollar. The increase in dollar claims held by foreigners does not look so dangerous when related to American investments or to our great economic and productive strength. The fact that the dollar has become the key reserve currency should be a condition which we can manage successfully over a period of years. 4. Our favorable merchandise trade balance, plus a substantial balance of net income on investments, are important factors of strength. While these balances do not fully equal our new investments and governmental expenditures abroad, they do place us in a sufficiently strong position to defend the dollar. 5. Our position of military leadership of the Western countries gives our Government additional bargaining power in financial as well as political matters. 6. Monetary policies and the level of interest rates have so far been used only to a minor degree in defense of the dollar and our gold holdings. We expect monetary policies to strengthen in response to p r e s s u r e s against the dollar. We expect that use of this reserve weapon will be adequate to counteract the p r e s s u r e s that we foresee. 7. While the U. S. economy is now facing a number of difficult problems, we believe that the longer term prospects are for substantial growth. We expect that over the next ten years our technological and population growth will be such that the real economic growth will exceed that of the past ten years. In the light of that prospect and the diminishing increases in the price level, we anticipate a strengthening of the dollar's position over the years ahead. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis F. N. Goodrich http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis August 8t 1962. Bear Mr. Stark: Thank yea for your mice letter of August 6 and 1, too, enjoyed our visit when yom were in Wash lag ton in late June. I I appreciate very much your letting me have a copy of your statement last week before the Ways and Means Committee and shall read it with real interest. As you requested, I am enclosing copies of three recent statements before Congressional committees although, as you will note, they are brief and specific to the bills under consideration. I am expecting to testify next week before the Joint Economic Committee, in connection with its hearings on fiscal and monetary policies, and wilt be glad to send you a copy of any prepared statement 1 use at that time. I will look forward to having another visit with you one of these days. . With all good wishes* Cordially yours, rss air. W. E. Stark, Vice President, Loomis-Sayles & Company incorporated, 140 Federal Street. Boston* LOOMIS-SAYLES 8 COMPANY INCORPORATED 14O FEDERAL STREET BOSTON 10 WALTER R. STARK VICE PRESIDENT August 6, 1962 Mr. William McC. Martin, Jr., Chairman Board of Governors Federal Reserve System Washin gton, D. C• Dear Mr. Chairman: Sometime ago when I was in Washington I had a most pleasant and. stimulating visit with you—on time which I Knew full well that you could not readily spare. I am chagrined to find that I have not already acknowledged the visit. You may be interested to see the enclosed statement of my point of view on the business situation and outlook and on tax reduction which I presented to the Committee last week. I should be glad to have copies of such of your recent statements on the Hill as may be conveniently available. Sincerely yours, A Enclosure http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis ttftrf 'I W. R. Stark http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis CONFIDENTIAL Statement of Wo Ro Stark Vice President and Economic Advisor LoomiSj, Sayles and Company, Inc. Boston^ Massachusetts before the Ways and Means Committee August 2, 1962 LOOMIS. S A Y L E S 8r COMPANY. INCORPORATED 500M-1Z-61 THE BUSINESS OUTLOOK AND ITS BEARING ON FISCAL POLICY Summary The broader statistical measures show business activity at record levels--with less appearance of important internal maladjustments and weaknesses than ordinarily precedes a downturn in the business cycle„ However, there has been a slackening of improvement in production, employment, and consumer income, and some easing off in consumer buying; the preponderant number of the principal statistical series that customarily move in advance of the cycle have begun to sag or decline; and confidence has been severely unsettled by a number of developments« These are by no means decisive evidence of an imminent downturn into recession.. At this time, conclusions about the outlook are essentially a matter of judgmento The Outlook My conclusions are as followsi Only inconsequential, if any, further increase in general business activity is to be expected during the balance of the year= In all probability the calendar year 19^3 will be a recession year--for the most part, if not entirely. The key question is, of course, whether the recession will be moderate or severe, short or prolonged» I strongly believe that anything approaching complete convic- tion on the answer to this question is, at present, quite impossible„ Much will depend on the economic climate--on whether or not there is to be improvement or further deterioration in confidence and in the relations between government and businesSo http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis LOOMIS, SAYLES ft COMPANY. INCORPORATED 5DDM-12-61 The Business Outlook and Its Bearing on Fiscal Policy o,ooooo2 To an extraordinary degree the outcome will depend on the timeliness, the appropriateness, and the effectiveness vith which the government deals vith the difficult and crucially important problems confronting the country at this critical juncture0 There is a real risk that the next recession may be significantly more severe than heretofore in the postvar period„ Provided that risk is recognized, however, I would consider it premature to set one's working benchmarks on that assumption0 Instead, I believe it prudent to use working guides that allow for recession within the range of the relatively moderate declines of the postwar period--but as the best that might be expectedo To be more specific, I use the following assumptions in making my own working estimates of the Federal Government's receipts<, I assume that—The Federal Reserve Production Index at best will close this calendar year at or about the 118 level (seasonally adjusted, 1957=100); it will reach a low in the neighborhood of 106-108 by, say, the third quarter of 1963; and it will average for that year 109-111 as against an average of about 117 for this year0 Personal income will at best average $442 billion this year, and $446-$448 billion in 19630 Corporate profits before taxes at best will average $50 billion for the current calendar year and $45 billion for next year0 The Main Reasons for Expecting Recession I shall not here elaborate on the reasons underlying these conclusions — which as I said must in the last analysis be largely a matter of judgment . Among the central contributing factors are; http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis LOOMIS. S A Y L E S & COMPANY. INCORPORATED The Business Outlook and Its Bearing on Fiscal Policy 1. The recent performance of the various statistical series that have figured importantly over the years in the business cycle studies of the National Bureau of Economic Research and that are now helpfully made available currently by the Department of Commerce„ These sta- tistics have begun to signal that the next change in economic activity will be down, though without dependable indications as to the timing of the turn,, 2» The severe decline in stock prices since the first of the year* Clearly this dramatic experience has taken something substantial out of the business outlook--directly, as a result of losses in excess of $100 billion, and Indirectly through the effect on the confidence of investors ,> business managements, and to some extent consumers „ It is not yet possible to measure the impact of the market decline-or to know whether or not the market has fully adjusted to changed investor expectations in regard to the outlook for inflation, corporate profits, and future rates of economic growth, 3<> http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis The continuing squeeze on corporate prof its«, The economy is still in the process of adjusting to the absence, for the time being at least j, of active inflationary trends and expectations and to the back pressure against higher prices as a result of intensely competitive conditions here and abroad--this in the face of continuing pressures toward higher labor costs. The unsatisfactory trend and level of corporate profits in recent years highlight the heavy burden of taxes levied against corporate profits. Throughout the postwar period, corporate profits after taxes have declined steadily in relation to the Gross National LOOMIS. S A V L E S ft C O M P A N Y . INCORPORATED 500M-12-61 The Business Outlook and Its Bearing on Fiscal Policj . „ . « „ 0 .4 Product--to an average of 4.5$ in "both I960 and 1961 (scarcely better than that in the first quarter of this year) from an average of better than 7$ in four years 1947-1950 and ranging from 6% to 1% or better for the most part throughout the twenties and in the years immediately preceding World War II. 4« http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Finally and, in a way, most important of all--deterioration in the economic climate. This unfortunate condition is a result of the market decline, of the recurring uncertainty about the balance of payments and doubt about the dollar, and most particularly of the irritations, misunderstanding and often animosity that mar relations between business and government, and that create friction and mistrust in place of cooperative effort. In my opinion^ it is difficult to overstate the importance of confidence and of the economic climate generally on the course and on the vigor of economic activity. In the life history of business cycles this single and intangible factor has been largely responsible for the difference between big and little business cycles. There is no need to belabor the point; but ours is in fact essentially a free enterprise economy. We too often forget that enterprise is something that performs not in the aggregate, but in terms of individuals --their imagination, courage and competence in taking business risks successfullyo In the present situation nothing would contribute more definitely to improvement in the economic climate than the development of definitely better understanding and cooperation between management, labor and governmento This is not a problem for the government alone, but the L O O M I S , S A Y L E S f t COMPANY. INCORPORATED SOOM-12-61 The Business Outlook and Its Bearing on Fiscal Policy government8s role Is bound to be crucially important0 Oo00,0.5 Whatever the government may undertake in its effort to encourage renewal of economic growth and sustained improvement in the rate of growth vill be fully effective only if effective in regard to this highly important, albeit intangible, area*, Clearly, there are many other considerations to "be taken into account in judging the economic outlook« Among numerous reassuring circumstances is the absence dur- ing the expansionary phase of the current business cycle of any great overswing of speculative excesses (apart from the stock market where there has been substantial if not necessarily full correction)—the apparent absence of really serious internal maladjustments and weaknesses in the economy,, And there appears to have been no background of large-scale misuse of credit, Major Problems The country stands at a very critical juncture in its history not merely or mainly because of the indications of impending recession in businessc sions before0 We have had reces- The present situation is particularly crucial, however, because of the importance and difficulty of several major problems which must be successfully handled--problems in respect of which the government cannot afford to be wrong by any very material margin„ To begin with, in view of this country5s international role and the scope of its domestic and international responsibilities, there is a clear need for a better rate of economic growth than we have had in recent years0 This need highlights one of the major drags against such growth to which I have already alluded, namely the drag of overhigh taxes and of a badly distributed tax burden„ http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis LOOMIS. SAYLES & COMPANY. INCORPORATED 5QOM-12-61 The Business Outlook and Its Bearing on Fiscal Policy 6 Normally there would "be a self-evident case for tax reduction as an important element in a constructive government program on behalf of improvement in the domestic economyo But the situation is tremendously complicated by two centrally important conditions: one, the government's already unsatisfactory fiscal position--with the budget running a substantial deficit despite almost the highest tax structure in the country's history and with business at record levels; the other, the persistence of a seriously adverse balance in our international payments--due in large measure to the burden of the government's foreign aid loans and grants and its expenditures abroad» Monetary and credit policy too would normally be regarded as available as part of a program to improve the domestic outlook. But here again the situation is complicated by the international payments position and the likelihood that the requirements of the international situation may, at times, have to take precedence over the needs of the domestic economy. To the extent that the latter proves to be the case, then clearly a heavier domestic burden falls on the pursuance of an appropriate fiscal policy. And yet this country's fiscal policies must now, for the first time in modern history, be determined with due regard for the understanding and the acceptance of those policies abroad. In this setting it seems obvious that final decision in the matter of tax reduction under present conditions must be made on the basis of calculated risk--risk closely calculated by those best able to judge all the elements in an unusually complex situation,, Budget Estimates Over the years since leaving the Treasury I have continued to follow fiscal developments with close interest and have, from time to time, endeavored to make my own http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis L O O M I S . S A Y L E S & COMPANY. INCORPORATED 5QQM-1Z-61 The Business Outlook and Its Bearing on Fiscal Policy tentative revenue estimates <, It is possible that the Committee may have some in- terest in such highly provisional estimates as I have been able to make in the time available. For some months my preliminary estimates for fiscal 1963 have suggested a lower level of receipts than were estimated in the January Budget Message—and a deficit on an administrative budget basis somewhere in the neighborhood of $4 or $5 billion« The following range of tentative estimates for fiscal 1963 is figured on the basis of current tax rates (without allowance for changes in depreciation and without allowance for the tax bill now pending before the Senate). Budget Summary (billions of dollars) 1962 Fiscal Years 1963 est Budget Basis Receipts 81.4 88.7 86,8 Ways & Means Com, Own tentative est. Expenditures 87 .7 (-1-3.5) 92.5 91 . 2 Official esto 1/62 Officially est'd. increase from 1962 level , Deficit -6.3 -4.4 -2.5 (combining the most favorable) As noted in the table,, the higher of the two receipts estimates is the one used by the Joint Committee Staff in the early spring. The lower figure would reflect my working benchmarks for income, prof its , et cetera—and so reflect the effect of at least moderate recession in 1963• The higher of the expenditure figures is merely the official estimate from the January Budget Message. The lower figure merely assumes the same increase between 1962 and 1963 that was officially estimated in January, but the increase has been http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis L O O M I S , S A Y L E S & C O M P A N Y . INCORPORATED The Business Outlook and Its Bearing on Fiscal Policy 0 0 . 0 0 oo8 applied in this case to the actual expenditures for fiscal 1962 which, as it turned out, were about $lA billion below the January estimates. In gaging the cost and effect of tax reduction on the budget, some allowance must at least be considered, if not actually made, for whatever constructive effect the action may have on the tax bases„ How much allowance--and on what time schedule-- will be most difficult to judge even when the tax changes become known» Clearly, adoption of any substantial tax reduction would mean more deficit financing for a while and, at a time like the present, would involve very real risks„ Obviously the degree of risk will depend not only on the character of the tax changes themselves but on the character of the over-all fiscal policy and the manner in which it is administered; and much will depend also on the response of business and the consumer in this country--not to mention international reactions, which will be highly important„ Tax Reduction For any who believe that the economy has lost its basic vigor and dynamism and is unable to respond in ways that will mean solid improvement in our economic performance, any tax reduction at present would appear to place the country in a hazardous positiono However, for those who believe that the economy is basically strong and in terms of its present position is likely to respond favorably to tax reductions enacted as part of a broad program of constructive government measures, the risk would be calculated quite differently,, Frankly I come rather reluctantly to the point of favoring tax reduction at the present time--faced as we are with the enigma of a huge and growing burden of government expenditures which, year after year, continually match or exceed the http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis LOOMIS, SAYLES & COMPANY. INCORPORATED SOOM-12-61 The Business Outlook and Its Bearing on Fiscal Policy •9 yield of a tax structure that is both too high and badly distributed., However, I believe that an early and simple first step tovard incentive-encouraging reduction of taxes on individual and corporate income would sufficiently improve the outlook for the private sectors of the economy to warrant the risk involved--subject to these important conditions; 1. The changes should be simple and capable of prompt enactment without controversy and delay» 2o To be effective they should be permanent and consistent with a later overhaul of the whole structure» 3. They should be associated with a firm commitment to restrain and where possible to reduce expenditures. k. There should also be an undertaking to finance the resulting deficits in so far as possible from savings. 5« Finally, it should be recognized that tax reduction alone will not be enough--but instead should be part of a broad effort to improve relations between business and government and to energize the private economy. The matter of expenditures deserves real emphasis. There should be at least a determined commitment to exert effective administrative restraint against avoidable increase in expenditures and a commitment to eliminate expenditures where possible on the basis of restudy of priorities., The recent accomplishments of Secretary McNamara illustrate the possibilities in this direction and should be emulated throughout government agencies. Beyond this^ there is a real need for more critical reviews than heretofore of the possibilities of reducing or at least deferring some part of the government's http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis L O O M I S , S A Y L E S a C O M P A N Y . INCORPORATED The Business Outlook and Its Bearing on Fiscal Policy ,10 foreign expenditures and the need also for the United States to take a much firmer position among its allies with regard to sharing the cost of military and foreign aid expenditures « The formulation of specific tax proposals should be left to those in a position to base their suggestions on closer and more intensive work on this extremely exacting subject than I am in a position to do» So , I am loath to go much beyond such general principles as those stated above. Corporation income tax- -Believing that taxation of corporate income at rates as high as 52$ exerts a cumulative drag against investment and against vigorous business enterprise in developing new ventures and new employment opportunities, I would place a high priority on a reduction to Vf$ effective on 19^ 3 incomes0 I would estimate that such a change would cost about $2 billion in a full year (figured on pretax corporate income of $50 billion and making approximate allowance for changed depreciation standards), Individual income tax- -There has been a variety of suggested changes in this areac Whether or not a downward revision of the various bracket rates, scaled to effect a highly desirable reduction of the very high rates, would be feasible without a great amount of delay and controversy is an open question, A simpler alternative would be to provide a flat cut beginning January 1, of, say, 5$ or 10$ in the tax as calculated under the present law. This procedure could be adopted to be effective until such time as the broad overhaul of the individual income tax provisions of the present law is completed „ A 5$ to 1,0% cut made effective on calendar year 1963 incomes would cost about $2.5 billion to $5°0 billion,, (I am not certain whether it would be administratively feasible to phase in a partial reduction before the end of this year*) http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis LOOMIS, S A Y L E S & COMPANY. INCORPORATED 5ODM-1Z-61 The Business Outlook and Its Bearing on Fiscal Policy ,11 Such reductions, taken in connection with the recent liberalization of depreciation allowances (and without reference to the bill now pending before the Senate), could involve a full-year cost as high as $5 to $9 billion. I believe that tax action taken within that range and subject to the conditions indicated above would tend to cushion such recessive tendencies in business activity as appear to be in prospect--and in time move business strongly ahead to new high levels„ How much allowance should be made for this result in projecting the fiscal picture ahead into the next year and thereafter is an open question0 No one can know for sure what the impact of a further extension of deficit financing on a substantial scale for another year or more might be. The answer will turn mainly on the over-all character of the government's fiscal and related policies-particularly on its ability to elicit the active cooperation of business and labor, and to activate the forward drive of which our economy is capable» It is these considerations as much as the arithmetic of budget estimates that will determine how effective tax reduction at this time will be* Two concluding observations: Even the government, powerful as it is, has no magic with which to control at will the course of business activity<> There is no single, simple action by which it can command the kind of sustained improvement in our economic performance that the country needs. While prompt and constructive tax action appears to hold considerable promise of good results, such action would of necessity involve very real risks under existing conditions--and the final decision is one that must be based on close calculation of the risks by those best able to judge all the elements in an unusually complex situation0 Ours is a basically strong economy and there is no reason why the country's difficult problems should get out of hando Responsible critics, both at home and abroad^ will judge the government8s policies according to whether they are considered to be realistically and responsibly formulated and effectively administeredo http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis L O O M I S . SAYLES & COMPANY. INCORPORATED 500M-12-61