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H e r b e r t Stein
D e c e m b e r 11, 1970

' Notes for Discussion with A F B

1.

T h e m a i n point is to convey an understanding of the Administra­

tion's goals and determination.

In 1959-60 the Administration m a d e what

Samuels on later called an "investment in sadism. " It squeezed d o w n the
recovery and tolerated a recession in order to slow d o w n the inflation.
It also handed over to J. F. Ke n n e d y an e c o n o m y with the inflation
expectation removed, and nowhere to go but up.
f r o m AFB).

W e do not propose to do that again.

(See attached quotation
W e intend to get a strong

recovery of the e c o n o m y and believe that a strong recovery can be
achieved while continuing to m a k e progress on the inflation front.

We

recognize and accept the risk that the progress m a y be small, but think
it unlikely that there would not be s o m e progress during a two-and-a-half
year period of economic slack.

W e do not think that the risks include an

inflation rate above our recent experience.
T h e risks of an expansive policy depend in part on public expectations.
T h e risk is increased if respected figures in the economic world
frighten the public, without firm evidence, about the inflationary
consequences of an expansive policy.
2.

W e should not confuse a discussion of m o n e t a r y policy with a

discussion of "incomes policy. " Neither A F B nor anyone else has an




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"incomes policy" short of mandatory controls that would m a k e a significant
difference in the rate of inflation in the next two years.

Whether any

particular m e a s u r e of incomes policy should be adopted is a discussable
question.

However, the m o n e t a r y expansion that is needed or safe does

not depend on what is done in the incomes policy field.
3.

Of the eleven items in A F B ' s "income policy, " ten would have

appeared in almost any economist's list of good things to do, inflation or
no inflation, and would not until recently been called part of an incomes
policy.

Four of these ten points could scarely have any effect in the next

two years: m o r e vigorous enforcement of antitrust laws, increased job
training, establishment of local productivity councils and liberalization
of depreciation allowances.

M a n y of the others would encounter fierce

resistance, which is to say not that they should not be tried but that they
cannot be counted on:

liberalization of import quotas, Davis-Bacon

suspension, modification of the m i n i m u m w a g e laws, establishment of
national building codes, compulsory arbitration.

W e are not opposed to

all this.

It is simply irrelevant to our relations with the Federal Reserve.

4.

T h e suggestion in A F B ' s speech that has received m o s t attention

is all contained in one sentence:
" W e might bring under an incomes policy, also, the
establishment of a high-level price and w a g e review board which,
while lacking enforcement power, would have broad authority to
investigate, advise, and r e c o m m e n d on price and w a g e changes. "




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This proposal bypasses all the hard questions.

S o m e idea of its

possible value m a y be obtained by trying to think of five people of
sufficiently high level that their advice would have kept the railroad workers
f r o m getting a 13-1/2 percent w a g e increase.
5.

W e should ask A F B to stop contributing to the c o m m o n idea that

there is a simple w a y out of our economic difficulties which the
Administration for s o m e mysterious reason refuses to take.

This idea

is one reason for the impatience which is the great e n e m y of the disinflation
w e all want.

6 . O n the proper subject of m o n e t a r y policy w e should emphasize
the importance of every day that is n o w passing.

T h e combined effects

of the ending of the auto strike and the expectation of a steel strike m a y
stimulate the e c o n o m y strongly in the first half of 1971.

Whether there

is a let-down afterwards will depend in part on h o w m u c h m o n e t a r y
expansion w e get beginning right now.

W e consider it important not to

have a decline in the second half of 1971 f r o m which w e then have to m a k e
another strenuous effort to climb back.