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Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives A Form P. R. 567 END SHEET KIND OF MATERIAL OR HUMBER 333*-C-l na m e Open Market Policy Conference Open Market Operations or s u b j e c t DATES ( I n c l u s i v e ) A p r PART NUMBER Part 1 — Dec 1930 Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives 3 FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD WASHINGTON O F F IC E O F G O VER N O R - [December 30, 1930 Memo randam for the Board ^In talking with Dr, Burgess this afternoon at four o‘ clock, he reported that the total purchases of Governments for delivery today, made yesterday and today, due to the firmness in the money market in Hew York in connection with the year end requirements of^the hanks, amounted to $32*000*000*, He stated that during the afternoon they fe lt the situation had "been eased sufficiently to justify refusal to purchase on offerings from dealers of Government securities* In addition, h ills were bought ta the amount of $7*000,000, of which $2 , 000,000 were on repurchase agreements, and $18,000,000 of Governmftnts on repurchase agreements also* These figures are merely rough. She Bankfs operations in Governments, as I have already reported to the Board verbally in recent weeks, included a purchase of $40,000,000 par value, about* amounting to $43,000,000 in cash value, made on one occasion from the Manufacturers Trust Company which desired to redace its h ills, payable with the New York Bank, aad $5,000,000 bou^it on Saturday afternoon from the Public National which also found itse lf borrowing too heavily from the federal Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives Beserve Bank in connection with withdrawals of deposits due to runs started in the days following the closing of the Chelsea Bank and Trust Company. The purchases from the Manufacturers Trust Company and the Public Rational were reported in o ff hours by Governor Harrison, in the case of the Manufacturers, and by Mr, Case on Saturday afternoon in connection with the Public National Bank, and I stated that I fe lt the Board would not object to these purchases in the light of a ll the circumstances attending them." Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives Ootow 10 , mo* Him* Lynn P* Talley, Governor, Federal H«««m Bank, Dallas, Texas* J&ear Oownor Talleys la tha absence of Mr* Mayer# I aejuaoaledge tha receipt of youar le tte ro f October 6! enoloslzig a oopy of your lattar of that data to Governor BarrIson, Chalrmmx of tha Open Market Polloy Conferenoe* I shall take pleasure in bringing tha oorreapondanoe to Mr# Mayar* a attention upon hia return to the office. Very truly yours, Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives 33 F ED E R A L RESERVE BANK OF DALLAS October 6, 1930 Dear Governor Meyer: I am enclosing herev/ith a copy of a letter which I have today written to Governor Harrison, Chairman of the Open Market Policy Conference. The enclosure I think is entirely self-explanatory, without the necessity of my extending the letter of transmittal. Yours very truly, G o v e r n o r Mr. Eugene Meyer, Governor I'ederal Reserve Board, Washington, D. C. October 6t 1990* Mr* George L, Harrison, Chairmaa Open n%rket Policy Conference, Hsw York City* Dear Governor Harrison: Your le tter of October 8, with a copy of tho minutes of tho mooting of tho Open Market Joliey Conference hold la Washington cm September Eg, 1930, Is received* I have rood tho draft of tho minutes, of which you woro good enough to say that aay suggested correction* w ill receive consideration, and I fool that your record reflects what transpired ao accurately ae possible without including a dotail of tho discussioa which took plaeo* I thoroforo have ao special ocsraeats to wake* Your lot tor of Ootobcr S, confirming your telegrar. of that dato aad eaclesiag a copy of tho Federal Beserve Board's lottor of October 8, approving tho asworandum adopted oa aeptember 85 by a m Jylflc jMftP of tho Open Market Policy Conference 9 has also been received* tJfSiothe Open Hiarkst Polioy Conforoaoo looted to approve tho polioy sot oat ia tho wwaorandow aad this action has now beea approved aad mad* of rooord by tho Federfl Reserve Board, with reservations oaly aa to coatlngeacies, I t lo new tho policy of tho System aad wo my bo expected to go along with it In tho usual wiy* la tho lest few days we have received some allotments of b ills that 1norease our holdings aad fTc« this X would assume that tho market is measuring tho anouat of additional funds required for seasonal purposes by the amount of b ills i t is offering to you froa day to day* I hope, therefore, that this actioa w ill be allowed to express Its e lf without interfereace arising froa anxiety over a probability of a volume of b ills not beiag offored which, ia your judgment, prevents ar su fficiiat amount of fuade ia the market at this time. It seems to m that aay over-supply of funds la the market now w ill be ladleated and ex pressed in a failure to offer b ills to you in any substantial volume. I do not fool the same anxiety or eoncera over aay moderate increase ia rediscounts at this season as you aad your associates have expressed ia the Open Bterket Policy Conference meeting!* There of course aay come days whea the market would appear to be a lit t le b it short aad redlsoouats wight iaorease accordingly. My thought would not be to imncdlately bay some goveraweats when that occurred, but to wait a few days to see whether or aot i t were in reality a temporary condition and.; might subside without the neeoaeity of buying aa additional araoua* of governawats* Should too quick actioa be taken, in the subsequent knowledge that i t was a temporary condition, surplus funds would be furaished the market and the ease would be lacrea&ed, whioh would be contrary to the policy adopted by the Conference at its last meeting* i i I have afcout cows to the conclusion that except in emergency situa tions governments are a poor instrument, or I wight say aot the best instrument for opea awrket operations, aad that b ills eoaetitute a very much more satis factory medium* In using b ills , however, the danger of error lies ia too j | | \ f quickly cutting oar ainimn haying rat# or cutting i t too lo *t out of anxiety over th# pr#par amount of b ills coming ia . To take a rather extreiae long view, I think we are proa# to use tha goverament aeouritiea bacauae thay are available aad wa ask* so comparison between tha present conditions and conditions under which tha opaa market policy of tha System would be exercised had there been no war and no consequent glut of government securitie#* Carrying thia thought a lit t la farther, there w ill come a time whan, da# to a decreased supply of government eeeurities or tha increased absorp tion of tha aaount outstanding due to increaa# ia savings for investment, government securities w ill not present their present availability for opaa market operations. Unless, therefore, in tha asantia# wa train tha market to asasur# its z ia a d a hy b i l l # aad rediscounts, we shall later on be under tha necessity of undertaking education along that line* Th# M il rata at tha preeent time ia too 1cm hut i t haa reached Its present levels hy reason af mat over-purchase of govarmamta* This is net saying that tha h ill rata should he increased at thia tins, because having aad# tha ai#take af letting tha rat# aink too lav aa the result of other operations, i t w ill have to atay there until some aeaas are available for withdrawing th# axeeaa of funds now in the aarkat wi thout creating alarm or bringing ab**t a too sudden reaction that could vary well he aiataken for a reversal of policy« T h ia coiwae&t, as you appreciate no doubt, is largely a repetition of the substance o f th# stateasnts 1 aad# la explaining, for the benefit of th# J o in t G o a fs r a a c e , a y r e a a o n far not voting at the laat aeeting. In order that th#a# mJRfT h# corr#atly and adequately expressed and reaorded in a a a n n a r s a tld M B fc s tc s ry ’ t # a # , 1 taa ssnding a copy of this le tt#r to the Federal Be##rt# Board* Tour# very tru ly. Governor oiW HE. HIM L U r l ^ MR. JAMES CUNNINGHAM ME. MILLER ^— — -MR* POLE v / jfflfTlloCMLUro Please note aad return GOT, METER. Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives ’ •ELEGRAM FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM 3 3 3. -c-l (L E A SE D W IR E SE R V ICE ) / RECEIVED AT WASHINGTON, D. C. /rf-3- 3 0 •61bfa NewYorlc Board Oct 3 1220pm W&shn ►z The Federal Beserve Board has approved of recommendation contained in report of open market poDicy conference dated September 25 1930 Will for?/ard full copy of boards letter Just received V- 1. toviuniaff nrnnwo ovnos: im Harri:>on 1228pm UCf4 Tfct' Qa*nje* foofi CcoWHsOi, 9—11001 Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives O o to b e r Hr* George L. Harrison, Open M rk v b Polioy Conference, Federal leserve Be©k, Hew York, I# T § V »•** < * * • « » Harrison* f $'dL S O ' * Th* f i ml Beport/of the Open Market Policy Oonferenoe, transmitted % you on Se^eaberSOth^ has bw a fu lly con sidered t*y tho Board* Th# Board '..md©rst©nd« that th* Conference I t of th* opinion that no change o f tho existing situation with regard to wmgr n te t is desirable * neither firming o f rates nor seeing of rates* end that, thereforet no operation* In the open aarteot ere eontea* plated, except as they aty beooae necessary to oounteraet faotors threatening a disturbance of the statue quo with respeet to money rates* It is the understanding o f the Board that the Authority asked by the Conference ^to purchase or se ll Government •^ u ritle s > li^ t o proteet the existing l e v e l cf rates, not to alter It# X aa writing to advise you that tho Board le prepared to ap prove tho purobaso or sale of Qoveraaent securities oithln tho lim it* proposed In tho Biport o f th* Gonferenoe, for the purpose of aa|n~ talning stability of rates under present conditions, suoh authority to run until an agreeable dato next January, unless a change In Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives » 2 » condition* before that tiae oh uld waleo a rmrlm and rooon** nidojration of Open Marfeet policy advisable at ah earlio r data. It w ill be undoretood that aueh purohaoea or w ill bo m d e in consultation with the Governor of tho Board orf in hit ftbeanoe, tho Acting Kxooutlre Offloor o f tho Board, exoept purchases or «aleo m&do in atnull amount* In puroult o f •& understood progma or In tho event of a eudden «fc>rgeney# It will bo understood further that tho preeont notion of tho Board In opprevtsig tho roooRMadation of tho Confer- onto supersedes tho aetion t* k m on Septesabor Srd* Tory truly youra, Sugmw iioywrg. ifffWrpCBr Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives 1 r / October 2, 1930* Dear Governor Harrisons The final Report of the Open Market Policy Conference, transmitted by you has been fully considered by the Board. fhe Board understands that the Conference is of the opinion that no change^*. the existing situation with regard to money rates is desirable - neither 4 firming of rates nor of rates; and that, therefore, no#operations fun Qjj WRss^wwwat in the open mar ket are contemplated, except as they may become necessary to counter ■d m l i s & w era act factors threatening a disturbance of the status quo with re spect to money rates. It is the understanding of the Board that the authority asked by the Conference to purchase or sell Government secur ities is to protect the existing level of rates and not to alter it* / I am writing to advise you that the Board is prepared to ap prove the purchase or sale of Government securities within the limits proposed in the Beport of the Conference, for the purpose of maintainrates under nresent conditions* such authority to ran until an agreeable date 4*r January, unless a changd in conditions before that time should make a review and re consideration of Open Market policy adtisable at an earlier date. to possible changes of conditions Board may wish tf ^ire. tMe the light of changed ^conditions http://fraser.stlouisfed.org/ Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis I outlook^ and for that reason is Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives - 2 - setting no d e f n ^ e time limit t^bfee projyfeaA of the recommendation of the Conference. n R It will be understood^ that the present action of the Board in approving the recommendation of tlie Gonference supersedes the action on September 3rd, Yery truly yours, Eugene Meyer, Governor. Mr. George L. Harrison, Chairman, Open Market Policy Gonference, / Federal Beserve Bank, / New York, N. Y. Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives V J i 3. J e /h r z (L E A S E D W 9 HE S E R V IC E ) RECEIVED A T W ASHINGTON, D. C. y * —*;i ■" RECEIVED 185bmr New York Sept 30 317p Sl'F'50 1930 arnamo* Eugene Meyer Washington,. Xa- 3 3 i .- C ' X 3 ^ The following report and reooramendationybf open market policy conference the substanee of which was reported to the Federal Reserve Board at the joint conference last Thursday, is submitted to the Board for it’s consideration and approval: “The open market policy conference has considered the preliminary memorandum submitted to it by the chairman and has reviewed at length general business and credit conditions. "In view of the continued severe depression in business activity, trade, and commodity prices in this country, as well as the rest of the world, it is the sense of the co ference that it should be the Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives -■ ’ TELEGRAM FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM (r_EASEP W IR E SE R V ICE ) RECEIVED A T WASHINGTON, D. C. - 2- poii°y of the system, so far as possible, to maintain the preseiffc easy money rate position in the principal money centers, it being the opinion of the conference that under present conditionsjno^ further easing of such money rates would be advisable and that ^ no firming of such rates would be desirable whether because of seasonal requirements, gold exports, or other causes. It is, therefore, recommended that the executive committee be authorized, if necessary, to supplement bill purchases by the purchase of Government securities in the event that the seasonal demand for federal Reserve credit, gold exports, or other factors should tend unnecessarily to tighten present money rates, and that in the event -j that any conditions should develop# which would require sales of government securities to execute this policy, the executive committee *-**•» Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM (LEASED WIRE SERVICE) RECEIVED A T W ASHINGTON, D. C. -3 - should be authorized to make such sales* It is understood , &SKX&X however, that if the committee ^should have to buy ior sell) more than #100,000,000 of Government securities to' maintain the status quo , new authority should be procured in accordance with the prescribed procedure. "It is recommended that there should be another meeting of the open market policy conference early in January , unless a change in conditions suggests to the board or the members of the conference the advisability of an earlier meeting. n The minutes of the open market policy conference which will contain this report will be transmitted to the Board as soon as drafted and available for distribution. Harrison, Chairman, Opea-5I^ESt^-^K<3y^-> -— — — > _ _ A ooOp C-.;7 1 1930 Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives 3 Federal R eserve Bank o f N e w Yo r k eptember 5, 1950 Dear Mr. Lie01elland: Let me acknowledge the receipt of the Board1a letter of September 5 ^reporting the action of the Board in granting authority requested by the Open Market Policy Oonference for the purchase of Government securities up to ^50,000,000 if necessary, as a supplement to bill purchases in offsetting seasonal demands for credit, gold exports, or other influences towards firmer money which might interfere with the continuance of present money conditions. I note also the Board's suggestion that the whole question of open market policy be reconsidered at an open market meeting at the time of the Governors1 Conference. We appreciate the Board1s action in this matter, as it places us in a position to deal effectively and promptly with conditions which may arise. authority. Very truly yours, Randolph Burgess Deputy Governor Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives September 4, 1930* i Dear ftorar&or Gaiklast Your letter gt August 29 A addressed to Governor Young, waa received and broo^it to theTftentlon of tha Board at tha same meeting at which It had under consideration the recommendation of the O p m Market policy Conference that it ba authorised to parchaae Government securities up to f60,000,000. As you probably kaow, tha anthorlty waa repeated with tho understand ing that it would bo exercised only if necessary aa a supplement to bill pnrchaaee In offsetting season al demands for credit, gold exports or other Influence toward f laser money, whioh sight interfere with the continuance of present money conditions. The Board waa la agreement with year position that the procedure followed by the Open Market Polloy Conference la this instance was|ao| la harmany with the resolutions establishing it, under whioh a meeting of the Confsim®* should have been held for dissuasion of the propoaed action among the memhera of the Conferenee and with the Board* it waa explained to the Board, however, that the matter waa handled la the way it was, principally because of the unsettled situation in the Board due to vacation absences of msmhera aad to the resignation of Governor Young* Furthermore the Board had Just determined to call the fall conference of Governors for October 6 and in view of this fact anar^fchr^aHEeinPaoT~tTrBtropen market matters have been so ffcilly canvassed during recent months, it did not eeem desirable to ask the Governors to come to Washington for a special meeting of the Open Market Follcy Conference at this time* fhe Board therefore granted the authority requested by the Conference with the further understanding that the whole question of policy will be recon sidered at the governors* conferenee* In advising Mr* Borgese, as Secretary of the Oonferanca, of Its action, the Board pointed out Its feeling regarding the procedure followed and stated that It did not wish 0 precedent established. ?ery truly youra, 8* II* McClelland, Assistant Secretary* Hr* Jno* U. Calkins, Governor, Federal leeerve Bank, San Francisco, Calif. Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives TELEGRAM FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM (L E A SE D W IR E SE RV ICE ) RECEIVED AT W ASHINGTON, D. C. 164bfa r»tr NY TvTV NewYork 417p A T *7 t » JjUL 71U m m J&0 ---•------- --------- , Sept* 2B O "at B O A R D MBITTING. SEP Washn 3 1330 J H ft*** In view of the desirability of maintaining the present easy money position and the possibility that seasonal requirements and gold exports may bring about a change in the situation if no action is taken a majority of the members of the open market it policy conference recommends the authorization of a purchase of government securities up to f50,000,000 with the understanding t\ that th&s authority is to be exercised only if necessary as a supplement to bill purchases in offsetting seasonal demands for credit , gold exports , or other ^Influences to-wards firmer money w h ioh might interfere with the continuance of present money conditions. We should appreciate your advising us of the action P S. eOTHftXMBMT F&IMTIMB firflC I: * — 11901 of the board on this reco^nmendation W * W ^ W ^ J- w ^ w AJ. i * w * * ^ v-w w w j.* I * b U r S 6 S S 3 2 3 5 r Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives F e d e r a l R e s e r v e B ank o f S an F ra n c is c o J N O . U. C A L K IN S , $ governor August £9, 1930 Mr* R* A. Young, Governor, Federal Reserve Board, Washington, D. C. My dear Governor Young: Mr. Case (apparently in the absence of Governor Harrison) called this morning and explained that they wished to have approval of their proposal to buy Governments when and if they deemed it expedient to do so in the near future. He told me that eight of the governors had assented, three were absent, and, therefore, I presume that mine will be the only negative expression. On the last occasion when money was put into the market Mr. Case also called on the telephone and discussed the matter, and I said that I would assent in that instance but felt that before further operations there should be a conference. I do not believe that it is possible to reach a reasoned conclusion without dis cussion, and it is obviously impossible to have adequate discussion over long distance telephone, discussion that involves twelve or more individuals. My own impression at this moment is that there is no reason to expect the injection of additional credit into an already redundant situation to bring about the effects desired, and while I think most of us would feel that considerable gold exports should be at least partly offset by additional investments, I am not yet con vinced that it will be expedient for us to put money into lie market on every occasion on which gold is exported or to put money into the market to the extent to which gold is exported. " a t t o a & d "Um aniiti. SEP 31930 9 O '%■# Reproduced from the Unclassified7 Declassified Holdings of the National Archives Mr. R. A, Young Page 2 However, I am writing this letter not to argue the entire field over, but to express again my view that the present procedure, which, as I see it, is exactly contrary to the procedure contemplated when the Open Market Policy Gonference was set up, is not the right procedure, and that the Open Market Policy Gonference should adopt an affirmative or a negative policy effective until cancelled or reversed after adequate discussion and consideration. Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives Fe d e r a l R e s e r v e B a n k o f 3 Ne w Yo r k PERSONAL August 26, 1950 Mr. A. M. Stone, Secretary to Governor Young, Federal Reserve Board, Washington, D. C. Dear Mr. Stone: In accordance with your telephone request, I take pleasure in sending you herewith a copy of letter addressed to Governor Young Yd-th respect to open market operations dated August 14, 1930. \ Encl. 3 Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives 3 3 3 .-t 6 Fe d e r a l R e s e r v e o f Ba n k N e w Yo r k ■■■■* i August 18, U S D . Dear Governor Young: In my telegram q f A M ^ , 6 jreqoeatlng tha Federal Reserve Board’s approval of the immediate purchase of $25,000,000 of government securities for System Account, I informed you that as a result of our talks fcy telephone with all of the other Federal reserve banks I could report that they were in favor of the purchase as a partial offset to current export movements of gold* On August 8 I received a letter from Governor Norris dated August 7 in ^hich he set forth some reservations which he had about approving the purchase at that particular time; and in the belief that the exchange of correspondence which I had with him may be useful for your records, I am enclosing copies of it* Faithfully yourp*? // Honorable E* A* Young, Governor, Federal Keserve Board, Washington, D* U* enclosures (5) ' J. H* CASE, Chairman* ra Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives COPY FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF PHILADELPHIA August 7, 1930* Mr* J. H. Case, Chairman, Federal Reserve Bank, New York City. My dear Mr. CasesWe have this morning your wire stating that the immediate purchase of $25,000,000 of government securities for the System account has had the approval of each of the twelve banks and of Governor loung, and that the purchase will probably be effected to day* Inasmuch as this purchase has been approved fcy the other banks and by the Board, our opinion about it is immaterial. We will accept our allotment, but for the sake of the record, I want to advise you that we do not approve of the purchase at this time. In my telephone conversation with you on Tuesday, I said that we had been opposed to the purchase of governments for the purpose of forcing additional Federal Beserve credit into an already glutted money market, but that the purchase of governments to offset gold exports was a different proposition, which we were ready to consider on its merits. I think you will recall, however, that I added that it was our feeling that purchases should be postponed until there was distinct evidence that gold exports had reached a point where they were having an effect on interest rates, or at least until there was general apprehension that they might have such an effect. On Wednesday morning the matter was discussed at our board meeting, and it was the general opinion of our directors that an in crease of 1/2 of 1%, or even of 1$, in the call loan rate on the New York Stock Exchange was immaterial - that it was, if anything, rather wholesome. There has been no advance in the abnormally low rate on bankers acceptances, nor in the commercial paper rate. »e have noted no expressions by business men or financial writers of any fear that interest rates were likely to advance* In these circumstances, we feel that a purchase of governments is unwise. We presume that the gold exports are due principally to the withdrawal of foreign balances in this country because of the excessively low rates prevailing here. Interference by the Federal Reserve System in the direction of maintaining or still further lowering these very low rates will naturally tend to bring about further withdrawals of foreign balances, and therefore further exports of gold. It seems to us, there fore, that action of this sort tends to start the operation of a vicious circle, and further that the Systems large holdings of governments will constitute a serious problem when business picks up and interest rates begin to advance* I am, Very truly yours, (Signed) t*eo. w* Norris, Governor. Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives COPY August 8, 1930. Dear Governor Norris: While it is always a pleasure to hear from you, I must con fess that your letter of August 7, which I have just received, is quite disconcerting* You will recall that in the talk which you and I had by telephone on Tuesday, August 5, I referred to the recent gold export movement in particular and stated that this factor, coupled with other, minor factors, had effected a substantial change in the reserve position of our New York City banks, so that not only had their reserve surplus disappeared but they were also considerably in debt and would probably have to borrow a substantial amount Tuesday night. (As a matter of fact they did borrow some $85,000,000 additional cm Tuesday, bringing their total borrowings to approximately 1150,000,000.) I further stated that both Governor Harrison and Governor Young felt that, in view of this new development, some additional purchase of short-term government securities was in order and that the immediate proposal, to which I was asking your approval, was to purchase $25,000,000 of government securities this week in order partially to offset the conditions to which I had referred. I also mentioned that I proposed to go the complete round of the reserve banks for their approval. I understood you to say that the set of facts which I presented certainly justified a change of viewpoint and that you cordially Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives COPY 2. approved of the proposed action. jve: r Norris. 8/8/30. You went further and asked me if I had talked with Governor McDougal of Chicago; and you mentioned that if Governor McDougal did not approve of the purchase at this time you would like me to call you back, as you would be most interested in knowing what his line of reasoning would be in opposing the purchase; also, that if there were opposition from that quarter, you would be interested personally in talking with McDougal by telephone in order to find out just what his reason would be. As a matter of fact I did go the whole round of the reserve banks on Wednesday and talked with the governor, or other executive of ficer in charge, of each of the other eleven banks. I found that Governor McDougal was away, but in his absence I had a most satisfactory talk with Deputy Governor McKay, who frankly stated that he felt that the gold export movement completely altered the views which Chicago had previously expressed and that Chicago would cordially approve the proposed purchase at this time. After talking with the officials of the eleven banks I sent a telegram to Governor Young. Copy of the telegram is enclosed for your information. In view of the fact that I reported what I conscientiously believed to be the facts; viz., that the other eleven Federal reserve banks had approved of the proposed purchase, it is disappointing to receive your letter stating MI want to advise you that we do not approve of the purchase at this time.11 After my talk with you I really felt that you were a fairly strong supporter of this program; and in view of the record which I have made by telegraphing to the Federal Beserve Board and by placing a memorandum in our own files, I am not a little Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives COPY 3, Governor Norris. embarrassed by receiving your letter. Sincerely yours, J. H. CASE, Chairman. Mr. Geo. w. Norris, Governor, Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania* enclosure (l) 8/8/30. jF .............................................. . _ _ _ _ _ _ ----------- Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives COPY Federal Reserve Bank of Hew York OFFICE CORRESPONDENCE TO: Files FROM: J. H. Case Date: August 8, 1930. 11:45 a. s» Subject: Letter from Governor Norris to J. H. Case 8/7/30. This morning, upon receipt of Governor Norris*s letter (original attached), I telephoned him and stated that, in view of our conversations last Tuesday, August 5, and Wednesday, August 6, I was very much surprised to receive his letter of August 7. I explained to him that I had set forth in a letter which I was proposing to send to him my views of what had actually transpired. With his permission, I thereupon read the suggested answer to him, which he said he had no objection to my sending, assuring me that there would be no misunderstanding on his part with regard to it. After listening to my letter Governor Norris stated that he was not surprised that I had misunderstood or misinterpreted his views and that he felt that the responsibility for this misunderstanding rested with him. He explained that after he had hung up the receiver the thought came to him that possibly his statement to me concerning his offer to telephone Chicago might be interpreted by me as indicating a willingness on his part to undertake to get Chicago into line, whereas, while he was not unsympathetic to the proposed purchase, his real thought was that he believed It was a question of timing and felt that a little further time should be permitted to elapse before the actual buying took place. In reply I repeated that In conversation with him my proposal was that we buy $25,000,000 of government securities "this week” and that the question as to a major operation later would have to be deferred pending subsequent developments. U C ytfg Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives DECLASSIFIED Authority £ • 0 • V23Slg> CQFI 3 3 3 Federal R eserve Bank o f N e w Yo r k CONFIDENTIAL August 14, 1930 Dear Governor Young: During the statement week ended last night, the holdings of government securities in the System Account have been increased $85,000,000, this being the purchase referred to in my letter of August 7, 1930; The holdings in our own investment .account have shorn a small increase, about $4,000,000. This increase is temporary and represents purchases made in anticipation of the maturity of Treasury bills on .August 18 and held for the time being in our portfolio. Sales contracts, which, due to some firm ness in money during the week had gone up to^Sbout $5,000,000. have now been entirely paid off. The market, for United States Government securities has been quite dull with small fractional changes in both the long and short-term securities on the downward side. The average selling price for the long-term bonds at the close of the statement week was 104.57, the same as the previous week,the high for the year being 104.77* During the past week the position of the New York banks has grad ually become more easy, but notwithstanding this there appears to be con siderable reluctance on their part to make commitments in government secur ities at present prices. There has not been much activity in the bill market during the past week, dealers' sales while not large were slightly in excess of their purchases so that portfolios show a slight reduction to 132,000,000. The prevailing money conditions have caused some of the banks to offer us mod erate amounts of their shorter bills, our purchases in this respect having resulted in an increase of $24,500,000 in System holdings of bills o^med outright. Our other operations reflect reductions of $1,500,000 in for eign suspense account and $1,600,000 in bills held under sales contract agreements, so that the result of our transactions for the week reflect a net increase of $21,400,000 in bills held by the System. Very truly yours, (Signed) L. R. Rounds L. R. Rounds Deputy Governor Honorable Roy A. *oung, Governor, Federal Reserve Board, Washington, D. C. Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives DECLASSIFIED Authority E •0•V23Sfe> Jt n'*' ■ 5 •^ Aa«aat U , X93Q, S o ar M r. Oooai&ghaats B its w ill adm owlodgo ro o o ip t o f ro a r lo tto r -o f. 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Tory truly youra* &. A. Youn*. T Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives irorm jno.JLcsx. "v "v 1 Office Correspondence T o ___ governor Young__________________ FEDERAL RESERVE ^ H O J , ~C ■ board Subject:. At the meeting of the Federal Reserve Board this morning, you were authorized, In the absence of a quorum of the Board, to approve discount rates down to 3#, if and when voted by any Federal Reserve Bank* and, as a result of Mr* Platt’s motion you were authorized to approve a discount rate for the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston dovn to 2-l/a$* Ton were also authorized, in the event of further redcBwendat1one by the Open Market Policy Conference of approval by the Board of additional purchases of Qcvcxmssit securities, to confer by telephone with the absent asobers of the Board, and if a majority of the Board is in favor of the proposed opum market operation* to approve additional purchases of securities as reccaaended by the Conference. Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD ADDRESS OFFICIAL. CORRESPONDENCE TO n « n a N a t M . i(n s i n « b o a r d August 7, 1930 Mr. B. A. Young, Governor of the Federal Reserve Board, Washington D. C. Beer Governor? , L J "Sit i n g confirming mv telegram to m of this. JLaaJUn which I gave my approval to the purchase of twenty-five million of Government Securities hy the Open Market Investment Committee; said purchase to he made during the week, and that no further purchase of government Securities he engaged i n u n t i l the whole credit situation has again been reviewed, a n d a £ s o the effects of this purchase is noted on the credit situat^f^n. It is now three weeks since I left Washin^xon, and of course I a m a little bit hazy as to what has developed in the credit situation, I have noted your statement^ffowever, that the reason this request is made at this time is to the fact that we have been losing some gold from the Counifry. I recall, h o w ever, that in our telephone conversation jrf yesterday you stated that the lose of gold has been due largpoy to the withdrawal of Security Investments by foreign countries from our markets. Personally, I do not c a r r / o give a continuous approval to any further Open Market operations in order to relieve a tightening situation which is caused by the withdrawal of Securities Investments by foreign nations in the American market. It has too much the appearance of underwriting so called Security Loans for foreigners, and I doubt the w i s d o m of any policy that could be interpreted in that light. I a m heartily in favor of reducing our discount rates at anytime that it would offer any encouragement to business and commerce, but to get excited about the withdrawal of gold from this Country which is due to the calling of Loans by foreigners does not in my judgment come wi t h i n the duties of the hoard as outlined in the Federal Reserve Act. I a m sure, however, that the members of the Board who are in Washington with you at this time and also your own judgment will be sufficient to handle this situation without permitting any — — ----- m m .. Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives F E D E R A L RESER VE B O A R D WASHINGTON ADDRESS OFFICIAL. CORRESPONDENCE TO THE FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD Mr* R. A, Y oung #2 8/7/30 question to develope as to what the intentions ©f the Federal Beserve are in regard to easing the present depressed business conditions of the Country. With all good wishes, I am Yours very truly, Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives WESTERN UNION TELEGRAM a— *rs 6 W «p» S fe & g r a p f; © fJ tc tf 671V KD 1S COLLECT C R ESC 0 IOWA 1 0 5 9 A AUG 7 1930 GOVERNOR R A YOUNG FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD WASHINGTON HAVE NOTED FULLY YOUR W IRE PURCHASE OF TWENTY F I V E T H I S OF SIXT.tf/wOULD APPROVE T~ WEEK LET T ER FOLLOWS E H CUNNINGHAM Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives Form. 148 A FEDE» vA . R E S E R V E BOAr^C LEASED W IR E SERVICE W A S H IN G T O N The telegram given below is hereby confirmed. —7 f "> - 7 __ " # ^ _________________________________________ 2— 9454a q fo Aogutt 6, 1930. X. H« Ounningham Orotoo# lowa. / ^ ed / In again roviawing tho information in roply to your inquiry I advita that in my opinion tho condition* art duo almost ontiroly to loot of gold and lit t la I f any at tho rosult o f toatonal ro^uiramontt. Tho lattor thould dovolop Tory shortly howovor. fho ooranittoo hat awdifiod it t original intontion aad only r*qu«»t« to h*s»atfai tt ad to hoy twonty-flvo thit wotk aad await rosultt whan tha tituation w ill again ho roviowod noxt wotk. HoprooontatiYoo o f a ll twalYO hanka haYo approved thit program and a ll oomfcort of tho Board Including Jamat aro raady to approva Toung Official Butinottt Chargot ?odoral Botorvo Board. /z.jzj’ % 1*7 / S O Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives 1 F o rm 148 TELEGRAM 3 FEDERAL- R E S E R V E B O A R D LEASED WIRE SERVICE W A SH IN G T O N 2- » * b* J ttg ttd # t 1930. Cat* * KowYork* Lj»orui» o f Bo and o o l prooont la # S iic t t t t t i C oaaU too o f Ih o Boartt ap p ro val th a r**o a n « U U o B o f til# Op«a ktarkot P o l to y O onforaaco and a a tto r i* * * porohaaa o f U ta ijr -fi? # m illio n d o lla r t fio *«rco o n t toeurlUaa. Iona*. AT EXECUTIVE CX5MMETTBU MEEHNG-, AUG 7 1930 Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives -ELEGRAM - C 'i FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM (L E A SE D W IR E SERVICE) RECEIVED AT W ASHINGTON, D. 16lb fa MiiiBXIBQv NewYork 420p -^ug 6 ^oung Washn Open market policy conference requests Federal Reserve Board’s approval of the immediate purchase of twenty five million dollars of government securities for system account. As I have advised you in my telephone conversation yesterday and to-day I have discussed this matter by telephone with the Governors of£ seven Federal Reserve Banks and in the absence of the governor with the chairman or deputy Governor of the four other federal reserve banks and they as well as this bank are in favpr of this purchase as a partial offset to current export movement of gold. It is understood that discussions will be continued the early part of next week as to advisability of further purchases ft. ft. OOVSaXVINT PRINTING e iT lC I' 1028 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------— -----------------i in , mm . Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives d e c l a s s if ie d Authority E • D« V23Sfc» F> * £* Fe d e r a l R e s e r v e B a n k o f N e w Y o r k CONFIDENTIAL n ’Ri s p o s July 25, 1930. Dear Governor Young: When I wrote to you on July 2 3 11 had intended to enclose, as of possible interest to you, a copy of an in formal memorandum which has been prepared in the hank with respect to the probable seasonal increase in Federal re serve credit between August and December of this year. Un fortunately, however, my other letter was written hurried ly just before I left the bank and I failed to refer to the memorandum, which I am now enclosing. Please remem ber that the text of this memorandum is merely an intraoffice discussion of probabilities, or rather possibilities, and that I am forwarding it to you principally because of the tables which it includes showing the seasonal changes in Federal reserve credit over the past several years, and the estimated demand for credit for the coming year based upon our past experiences. While, as I stated in my letter of July 25, we feel here that we should attempt to avoid any change in the money position which will result in a firming of rates, at least until such time as business and commodity prices show some definite signs of improvement, nevertheless we have learned so often from past experience that conditions may change rapidly and unexpectedly, that any general statement of this kind should, of course, be accepted only in the light of conditions as we now see them. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org/ iFederal Reserve Bank of St. Louis t/ ------------------------------------- "IL- ..----Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives DECLASSIFIED Authority E ■0» V23S4? F ED ER AL R ESERVE B A N K OF N E W YC Governor Young ly 25, 1930 Indeed, as we have stated in the past in our discussions with the Federal Reserve Board relative to our present easy money policy, we should, of course, be prepared at any time to amend that policy quickly and, if necessary, vigorously, as soon as conditions require it. In the meantime, however, as those conditions no?/ appear, it occurs to us, as I stated in my earlier letter, that we may soon find it desirable to supplement purchases of bills by the purchase of government securities in an amount at least sufficient to offset exports of gold and the approaching seasonal demand for credit, Very truly yours, Governor Mr. R. A. Young, Governor, Federal Reserve Board, Washington, D. C. GLH.MM Enc. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org/ IFederal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives d e c l a s s if ie d Authority B ■0 • \23Sio July 22, 1930 THE FINANCING OF 1930 AUTUMN TRADE ..................I,............................... I ■!■■■—I .......................................HI . l^ ■ - This week will, in all probability, mark the lowest point In the demand for reserve funds that will be reached at least tintil the latter part of January. After the July month-end it is to be expected that the beginning of seasonal curren cy and credit requirements will appear, and that from the latter part of August until the middle of October the increase, in these requirements will be accelerated, after which there will be a slight lull, followed by a rapid increase in currency circulation for the holiday trade from late November until Christmas. A normal in crease in the demand for reserve funds would be 200 to 225 million dollars from next week until the middle of October, and an additional 250 million or so in the five weeks preceding Christmas to provide currency for the holiday trade; a total increase of around 470 million* There are several difficulties in the way of estimating in advance pre- . cisely how these seasonal requirodents are to be met this year. The first is uncertainty as to the amount to be provided - a more than seasonal increase in production and trade, possibly accompanied by a rise in commodity prices, would tend to increase currency and credit requirements, while less than the usual in crease in business activity or a further decline in commodity prices would tend to restrict the amount of funds required. In any event, however, it is unlikely that on account of changes in business activity or in prices tho demand for additional reserve funds will exceed or fall short of tho amounts indicated above by more than 50 million dollars to October, or 100 million to the Christmas maximum, A further cause of uncertainty as to the amount of reserve funds that will be Inquired during the coming months is the movement of gold. During the first half of this year the net gold flow wa& substantially in favor of this country, and was an important factor in the reduction in the amount of Federal Reserve credit in use* The net gain of gold has diminished steadily in each month since March, however, and within the past week French francs and Canadian dollars have risen above the gold export points, so that an outflow of gold to Franco and Canada Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives DECLASSIFIED Authority E • 0» \23Sio Z has occurred* If these recent tendencies result in an outflow of gold sufficient to more than offset any further gold receipts which may como fro® the Orient or from South America, the demand for Reserve Bank credit will be correspondingly in creased. In previous years the seasonal increase in Reserve Bank holdings of ac ceptances has to a considerable extent supplied the additional Reserve Bank credit required for the autumn season. Frequently there has been some increase in member bank indebtedness at the Reserve Banks in September, however, and a further increase in December, and these increases have been accompanied by higher money rates. In attempting to estimate how far the autumn increase in the demand for Reserve Bank credit can be met this year through the purchase of bills by the System the first uncertainty encountered is in regard to the increase which will take place in the amount of bills in the American market. The severe decline in foreign trade and in ccsraaodity prices which has o ccu rred d u rin g re c e n t months will probably tend to reduce the volume of export and import bills below the amount that might otherwise have been anticipated. On the other hand, the unsatisfactory condition of the COTiaodity markets has r e s u lt e d in a larger volusae of bills to finance the domes tic s to r a g e of commodities than is usual at this time of year. Any consider* able reversal of these conditions in foreign trade or in c o m o d i ty markets might be expected to have its effect on the volume of bills coming into the market. In addition, the relative position of money rates here and in London ftiay also be ex pected to influence the volume of bills in this market. Reserve Bank acquisitions of bills will depend, further, upon the policy of the Reserve Banks with respect to buying rates; potential buyers on other short investments; the yields obtainable by other and the position of the large New York banks with respect to indebtedness or surplus funds. In view of all the uncertainties contained in the situation, it is — , » - — — — - — — - - — The table on the following page contains an estimate of the accumulative increase over the present |re«K in the amount of Reserre Bank credit which will be required . Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives d e c l a s s if ie d Authority E . 0 » 123S4? z hag occurred. If these recent tendencies result in an outflow of gold sufficient to more than offset any further gold receipts which nay come from the Orient or from South America, tho demand for Reserve Bank credit will be correspondingly in creased. In previous years the seasonal increase in Reserve Bank holdings of ac ceptances has to a considerable extent supplied the additional Reserve Bank credit required for the autumn season* Frequently there has been some increase In member bank indebtedness at the Reserve Banks in September, however, and a further increase in December, and these Increases have been accompanied by higher money rates* In attempting to estimate how far the autumn increase in the demand for Reserve Bank credit can be met this year through the purchase of bills by the System the first uncertainty encountered is In regard to the increase which will take place in the amount of bills in the American market* The severe decline in foreign trade and in commodity prices which has occurred during recent months will probably tend to reduce the volume of export and import bills below the amount that might otherwise have been anticipated* On the other hand, the unsatisfactory condition of tbs consaodity markets has resulted in a larger volume of bills to finance the dcsaestic storage of commodities than is usual at this time of year. Any consider able reversal of these conditions in foreign trade or in comodity markets might be expected to have its effect on tho volume of bills coming into the market* In addition, the relative position of money rates here and in London may also be ex pected to Influence the volume of bills in this market* Reserve Bank acquisitions of bills will depend, further, upon the policy of the Reserve Banks with respect to buying rates; potential buyers on other short investments; the yields obtainable by other and the position of the large New York banks with respect to indebtedness or surplus funds* In view of all the uncertainties contained in the situation, it is necessary to make a number of assumptions before any definite estimates can be made* The table oil the following page contains an estimate of the accumulative Increase ! I over the present week in the amount of Reserre Bank credit which will be required l ' ■4u i } i.\ Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives d e c l a s s if ie d Authority B • 0 ■V23Sfc> during the next five months; an estimate of the amount of bills outstanding in this country at the end of each month; ings at the end of each month. and an estimate of Reserve Bank bill hold These estimates are based on the following assumptions: L*'"' (1) That the seasonal increase in the demand for credit and currency will be neither greater nor less than usual; (2) That the volume of bills in this market will show a some what smaller proportionate increase than usual, due to reduced foreign trade and low commodity prices; (3) That gold exports and imports will approximately balance during the remainder of tho year; (4) That money conditions will remain practically unchanged until December, and Reserve Bank buying will be kept at pressnt levels ..... \ (In millions of dollars) Estimated Demand for Reserve Bank Credit Accumulated increase over week ended Week ended July 26 July Aug. ♦* 2 9 16 M 23 n 30 Sept. 6 n 13 t* 20 » 27 Oct. 4 n 11 M 18 »» 25 Nov. 1 n 8 15 » 22 « 29 Dec. 6 tt 13 H 20 n 27 If + ♦ + + ♦ ♦ + ♦ 12 41 33 30 50 101 131 142 132 ♦ ♦ + + + + + + ♦ ♦ ♦ * 198 228 172 186 242 235 218 236 289 308 371 470 August Bankers Acceptances Estimate Estimated Reserve Bank of bills outstanding Holdings .Amount Accumulated Accumulated Amount increase increase at end at end over July of month over July of month 1,300 170 1,300 0 190 + 20* 70 September 1,350 ♦ 50 240 + October 1,500 + 200 360 ♦ 190 November 1,550 + 250 395 ♦ 225 December 1,600 ♦ 300 430 + 260 i a i * This increase in Reserve Bank holdings without an increase in outstandings is based on the assumption that the System will get some bills from dealers prosent portfolios before the first of Sept amber, either through outright purchase or through repurchase agreements. Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives DECLASSIFIED Authority E •0»V23Sk 4 These estimates indicate that if there is a normal demand for credit and currency during the next two months, the increase in the Systemfs bills is not likely to meet these demands fully, so that in the absence of any additional gain of funds to the money market, through gold movements or Reserve Bank purchases of Government securities, somewhat firmer money conditions may be expected, especially in September. In the latter part of October, the increase in tho System's bill holdings is likely to overtake tho increase in tho demand for Reserve Bank credit, with consequent relaxation of money market conditions, Tho holiday currency re quirements are likely to be met largely by a temporary increase in member bank borrowing at the Reserve Banks, though probably in part through acquisitions of TJ* S* securities under repurchase agreements. Under present conditions, however, considerable variations from these figures would not be surprising. If, for instance, the recovery in business should materially exceed tho usual seasonal increase in activity, a corresponding increase in the demand for Reserve Bank credit might be expected, and the tendency toward firmer money would be accelerated* On the other hand an unusual increase in foreign trade or a considerable recovery in commodity prices would tend to cause an increase in the volume of bills in the market, so that a larger amount of Reserve Bank credit could be supplied through the bill market* As for gold movements, if any considerable net outflow should occur during the coming months, it would require a further addition to Federal Reserve credit which might be expected to cause further rediscounting and firmer money unless it were offset by purchases of Government securities. Source of Funds to Meet Seasonal Requirements in Previous Years Supplementing the estimates presented on the foregoing pages, the figures on the following page are presented to indicate the size of the demand for Federal Reserve credit in previous years; the anount supplied through bill holdings; and the amount supplied through discounts or U. S* security holdings, in addition to changes required to offset gold movements* W— --------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------ ----------Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives DECLASSIFIED Authority E •0• V23Sfe> 5 In reviewing ies igures, tho following con .erf ons should be taken into account: (1) Figures are monthly averages of daily figures, and therefore do not reflect the full changes from the mid-summer low points to the December high points; (2) The volume of bills in the American market prior to 1987 was not over half tho present volume. INCREASE IN RESERVE BANK CREDIT REQUIRED TO FINANCE AUTUMN REQUIREMENTS (Monthly averages of daily figures; increases over August of each year; in millions of dollars) Actual Increase in F. R. Credit over August Average Change in Gold Stock Change in F. R. Credit if there had Been No Change in Gold Amount of F. R. Credit Supplied Through Bills Purchased Increase in other F. R# Credit Chiefly Discounts and Securities 1924 September October November December + + ♦ ♦ 102 176 854 407 + - 1 10 1 9 + ♦ + + 101 166 255 398 + 68 + 150 4- 838 ♦ 388 ♦ + ♦ + 1925 September October November December + 04 ♦ 178 + 209 ♦ 364 ♦ ♦ ♦ + 12 17 33 23 ♦ 96 ♦ 195 ♦ 848 + 387 ♦ 81 ♦ 93 ♦ 147 ♦ 164 + 75 + 108 + 95 883 1986 September October November December + 75 ♦ 119 ♦ 115 + 242 «• ♦ 79 + 184 ♦ 185 ♦ 856 ♦ 80 ♦ 50 ♦ 103 ♦ 140 ♦ ♦ 4 5 10 14 1987 September October November December ♦ 94 ♦ 161 ♦ 284 ♦ 475 1 - 19 95 - 169 ♦ ♦ + 96 136 + 168 ★ 339 + ♦ + 1988 September October November December 1929 September October November December Average 1982-1929 September October November December ♦ ♦ ♦ ♦ ♦ ♦ + ♦ 51 74 255 267 80 133 191 313 + ♦ ♦ ♦ ♦ ♦ - ♦ ♦ ♦ 59 74 + 88 + 116 4 93 ♦ 148 ♦ 189 ♦ 306 43 ♦ 109 ♦ 163 ♦ 805 + 103 151 ♦ 801 + 363 48 190 893 305 + 7 15 33 24 ♦ * ♦ ♦ 17 30 23 27 ★ 10 18 18 8 + + ♦ ♦ + + + ♦ ♦ 68 104 878 840 105 813 ♦ 178 ♦ 196 90 151 809 381 ♦ ♦ + - m + + - ♦ • 44 ♦ 114 + 163 + 199 39 16 17 70 + * +• + + 50 33 86 101 55 39 98 58 37 109 106 44 46 37 46 188 Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives DECLASSIFIED Authority E . 0 • 1235&> 1 Federal R eserve Bank o f , o N e w Yo r k CONFIDENTIAL July 25, 193a*- -'*1 & \ \ ‘ Dear Governor Young: $2 I P" 7 I \ C'f I On July 3 I forwarded to the Federal Reser^e^ c \ Board a copy of a letter dated the same day which I slnt to each other Federal Reserve Bank outlining our vie?/s ^ concerning business and credit conditions. We have now received letters in reply from all of the Federal Reserve Banks except the Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland. While it is probable that the Federal Reserve Board has received copies of these letters direct ly, nevertheless in order to be certain I want to forward them to you for your information. Governor Fancher acknow ledged my letter on July 16 by telephone when he explained that both he and the majority of his directors felt at that time that while everything that the System can do to facilitate recovery in business and commodity prices should JZ j2—. be done nevertheless, it was their opinion, that continued purchases of government securities would not contribute sub stantially to that recovery and that, therefore, they would not then favor further purchases. I am also enclosing for your information a copy of a letter dated July 18 which I sent to each Federal Reserve Bank acknowledging their communications and further Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives d e c l a s s if ie d Authority F ED ER AL RESERVE B A N K OF N E W YO, _ E ■0 • V23Sfc> _____ Governor Youn 7/23/30 discussing conditions in the New York money market. It is, I think, self-explanatory. However, even since our letter of July 18 the gold export movement which had begun at that time has assumed sufficient proportions to raise the question whether the System will be able to increase its bill portfolio in suf ficient amount to offset both the gold movement and the usual seasonal demand for credit and currency. Our best present estimate is that in order to maintain present ease in the money position it will probably be necessary to supplement bill purchases with purchases of government securities. We believe firmly that we should avoid any change in the money position with resulting firming of rates at least until such time as business and commodity prices show some definite signs of improvement. With that in mind it may be advisable upon short notice to call a meeting of the Open Market Policy Conference to consider whether the changed situation caused by the gold movement and the approaching seasonal demand might now justi fy purchases of government securities in an amount at least sufficient, with the purchase of bills, to offset the gold movement and the normal seasonal increase in Federal Re serve credit, or if such a meeting is undesirable or im practicable, members of the committee might be sounded out to ascertain whether, in view of these changed conditions, they would object to such purchases for System account or Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives DECLASSIFIED Authority FED ER AL RESERVE B A N K OF N E W YO E • 0 • V235&? Governor You. 7/23/30• for the account of such banks as care to participate in them, In any event, I shall hope to keep closely in touch with you as the situation develops. Very truly yours, Geqrge L. Harrison, Governor. Hon. R. A. Young, Governor Federal Reserve Board, Washington, D. C. Enes. Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives DECLASSIFIED Authority E • 0»\23Sk FANCHER COPY OF ^BTS LET TEH ALSO SENT TO Gr"TEp'TQIB TALLEY M B WITH A SLi JL ilNGE IN FIRST PARAGRAPH. COPY OF THIS LETTER SENT TO ALL GOVERNORS EXCEPT TALLEY AND FMCHER CONFIDENTIAL July 18, 1930 Dear. Governor I want very much to thank you for your interesting letter of July in reply to mine of July 3 concerning business and credit conditions. We have now received responses from most of the Federal reserve banks and these letters constitute such an illumin ating discussion of Federal reserve policy that with the permission of the writers I am enclosing copies of all that have been received. A reading of these letters discloses that a majority of the Reserve banks are in agreement with the opinion of a majority of the executive committee of Government securities should be made at that tiiae. In con formity with the opinion of the committee no further purchases have been made since the purchase of #50,000,000 in the early part of June. Since the end of June, even since my letter of July 3, conditions in the money market have changed irith rapidity. Around the first of the month money v/as relatively firm and rates rose slightly in connection with the usual half-year needs and holiday currency requirements. tenth of the month. This condition continued until about the In the past few days, however, due largely to a reversal of the situation in the market for bankers acceptances, conditions have altered appreciably. Up until about the end of June the total amount of bills outstanding and the amount offered to the Reserve banks had been steadily declining in accordance with or perhaps even more rapidly Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives d e c l a s s if ie d Authority E • 0 *\2 3 Sifc> 2. 7/18/SO. than the usual seasonal tendency, normally this decline might have been expected to continue well into August. In the past few weeks, however, a cuite contrary tendency has begun to make itself evident. Indeed in the last few days a large amount of new bills appears to have come into the market due in part to the early drawing of bills to finance cotton and grain exports, and in part to a shift of ac ceptance financing from London to New York because of the more favorable rates obtainable in this market. Furthermore, the firm ness of money over the first ten days of July, which was followed by a slight increase in market rates for five and six months bills, and by a slight increase in acceptance rates, and as a consequence large amounts of bills were offered to us and to the market by member banks. Dealers portfolios have been increased to about 1*100,000,000, and Fed eral Reserve System holdings of acceptances have gone up approximately $35,000,000 to about $170,000,000. \ .... This unexpected increase in the total bill holdings of the System has of course put out Federal reserve credit just as the pur- '' chase of Government securities would have done, and it is therefore doubtful whether we would have wanted to continue the purchase of such securities, even if authorized to do so, during the period when or as long as the bill portfolio was increasing at this rate. Latterly or since about July 10 because of these purchases of bills, coupled with the return of currency to the banks after the holiday, together with the usual return flow of funds from the interior to Mew York, money has again become easier. As a result the principal New York City banks have paid off all of their discounts here and at present have a surplus of reserves. Thus, the condition which we have desired, and for the attainment of -which we believed purchases of Government securities might be necessary, has been achieved during the past ten days in j Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives DECLASSIFIED Authority £ • 0 » V23Sfc> 3. 7/18/50. natural course through developments in the bill market which could hardly have been anticipated. As we pointed out in our letter of July 3, we believe that the important end to be achieved in present circumstances is that the money center banks should be substantially out of debt and that there should be some surplus funds available. As just stated this condi tion no?; exists largely as a result of the increase in the System bill portfolio, but it is, of course, difficult to foresee how long it will continue. It will necessarily depend on a number of factors. The foreign exchanges have strengthened during recent weeks and $4,000,000 of gold was shipped to France on July 16. $4,000,000 is to be shipped to France today. Another Any substantial gold movement would of course have an important bearing upon the money position and reserve policy. So also the approaching usual fall de mand for credit will be an important factor in the picture. It is still our belief, however, that so long as commodity prices and business conditions do not show any marked signs of improvement it will be desirable to maintain an easy money position with the prin cipal banks in the money centers substantially out of debt and sur plus funds available for the bond and mortgage markets. Whether it will be necessary for the System to purchase additional amounts of Government securities to accomplish that objective will of course de pend upon developments. At the moment, as we see it, the continued increase in the System1s bill portfolio appears to be adequate. But a falling off in bill purchases, a gold export movement, or the ap proaching seasonal demand for credit, might cause a rapid change in the outlook and thus suggest the importance of an early reconsider ation of open market policy. Indeed it might be desirable to have a y Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives DECLASSIFIED Authority E • 0 • \23Sb 7/18/50 4• meeting of the Open Market Policy Conference a little later on in any event. Faithfully yours, George L. Harrison, Governor. Governor, Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives d e c l a s s if ie d Authority B • 0 ■\23Sifc? COPY FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF BOSTON CONFIDENTIAL July 9, 1930. Mr. George L. Harrison, Governor, Federal Reserve Bank, New York, N. Y. Dear Governor Harrison: I had expected to see you in New York on Thursday and to have had the opportunity of discussing with you in person the general policy outlined in your letter of July 3, but owing to the unexpected call which Mr. Paddocfc, our I5eputy Governor, has received which will necessitate his leaving fbfr the West at once owing to serious illness in his family, I find it will be impossible for me to leave heme. I have read with the greatest care and interest the arguments which you set forth in your letter concerning the attitude of the directors of the New York bank and the reasons for the policies which they have pursued during tiie past several months. It is needless for me to say that I am thoroughly in sympathy with the aims and purposes of those policies, but, on the other hand, I am tool) yet convin^d t.hr>t. tfiw increased rairchases of Government securities H y _ % ayat.ftffi wi n hrinp about the desired ends, ana may not only frustrate ’ those ends but may do actual haim. In your letter you state that you are asking for a frank expression of views from each Federal Reserve Bank, and I feel that what I shall say not only will voice my own views but those of the other members of the board of this bank. In your letter you enclosed a chart showing the sequence of bond prices from 1921 to 1927 in relation to tiie holding of securities of the Federal Reserve System. IXiring that period there was a very large and contin uous increase in deposits by the banks in the country, and in the case of the member banks largely through the increase in time or savings deposits which I am led to believe did not represent strict savings deposits. IXiring that period there was little, if any, increase in commercial borrowings, new financing and transportation enabling commercial houses to run on small in ventories and to finance themselves without the aid of commercial banks. This brought about an accumulation of funds in the hands of these banks that were invested either in collateral loans or in bonds and stocks. In other words, a large proportion of the long term bonds and notes that were issued during that period were either carried on collateral loans or went into the portfolios of commercial banks and not into the hands of the ultimate investor. Through most of that period there was also a large increase in the gold stock in the i country, or at least until the summer of 1927, and I am led to believe that 1 these factors had quite as much influence on the bond market as the Federal \u Reserve securities shown on your chart. Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives DECLASSIFIED Authority B • 0 • U3Sfe> 2 As I look back on that period, the average investor turned stockminded, investing either all or a largo proportion of his actual savings in stock equities instead of bonds and was not attracted by foreign bonds. In 1928 and 1929 we had, if I may use the term, an over-production of bonds, both domestic and foreign, and this situation was aggravated by the large increased issue of common stocks. The bond market, which had been supported up to that time largely by the connnercial banks, was affected by the fluctuating and some what downward trend of the total deposits of banks, that latter, no doubt, affected by the export of gold during that period, and also affected by the ordinary investor’s inability to relieve the situation because of the large issuance of common stocks in companies in which he was already interested or I po which he has been accustomed to turn. This over-production of capital issues in 1920 and 1929, both in bonds and in stocks, not only affected the stock market but also the bond market, so that even at the present time a large majority of banks, at least in this district, still show considerable deprecia tion in their bond accounts. Since the crash in the stock market of last fall, there has been an accumulation of investment money in the hands of the commercial banks, and it has been our thought that in reducing the discount rate of this bank it would encourage the member banks to reduce the rate of interest allowed on such balances (and such has been the case) and that this reduction would bring pres sure on the investor to withdraw his balance and invest his funds. We are in accord with the opinion that the desired aim of the reserve bank policy is to help business and that business might be helped by a better bond market, especially in connection with foreign issues, but we do not want to see the bond market largely dependent on the purchases of the commercial banks. In fact, our commercial banks would appear to have a sufficient amount of their assets tied up in bonds at the present time, especially so if their deposits are going to decline through the withdrawals of this investment money, so the real problem is to get this volume of money awaiting investment into the bond market and not into the stock Market. During the past week I have mde- a point of interviewing the partners of several of our prominent banking houses and they have confirmed my views that the investors are still stock-minded, and that the only thing that would change the investor’s point of view is a continued experience of finding stocks unattractive through a falling stock market, or the appreciation that even at present prices from the point of yield stocks are not attractive. The release of credit through purchases by the Federal reserve banks of Government securities goes largely to member banks, and they in turn, unless they buy bonds will probably take that money and loan it in the stock market, and this increase of credit would tend to aid the stock speculator thereby in creasing stock market prices, and the psychological effect on the investor would be to invest his money in stocks. The buying of Governments by reserve banks also weakens to some extent the ability of the reserve banks to aid member banks, if an unusual situation develops. I should like to see the volume of credit kept as near statu quo as possible, and therefore, of course, I would favor the purchase of Governments to offset any export of gold which might affect the volume of credit in the domestic market. Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives d e c l a s s if ie d Authority E ■0 » 123Sb 3 I think it is up to the banking houses to create the bond market with the assistance of the commercial banks in encouraging investment in bonds among their customers and carrying now issues on collateral loans pending distribution, and for the reserve banks to simply keep in a position to aid the member banks in that policy or in adjusting their reserves. There is a strong feeling, I find, among the directing powers of our large city banks against the operations of the reserve banks in connection with the purchase and sale of Government securities, and I think that same feeling exists not only in Boston but in the other large centers. Our directors, more especially the Class B directors, have been consistent in their feeling that the reduction of discount rate, and a continuance of a low discount rate, would probably help business, and do little or no harm, but on the other hand, they feel that the release of additional credit with the present ense of money in the outside market, should be handled by the member banks. Whether they have been influenced by this general opinion which exists among the officials of the large city banks, I cannot say. When I compare the yields of certain of the so-called investment stocks with the yields on bonds, I cannot help but reach the conclusion that stock prices are still inflated, and as I look back over the Dow, Jones Index and see that stock prices are still considerably higher than they were in 1928, in which year the prices were considerably higher than they had been in the previous decade, and with the general outlook of future business, I feel that my conclu sions may in most cases be justified. It seems to me that during the period covered by your chart, - a period covering steadily increasing deposits, and a period which I look back on as one when many banking houses had a demand for bonds which they had difficulty in meeting, - many bonds doubtless were put out at that time of a character and at prices that would not be justified today. New issues that have come out recently and that have been put out at satisfactory rates have evidently sold readily. I think that is the case of the last Pennsylvania issue, with the telephone issues, and certain others. On the other hand, I am very much disappointed at the reaction of the so-called Reparation bonds. These were placed apparently unusually well; in fact, I had supposed that the entire issue had been placed on investors* orders, and I think I am right in saying that some of the banking houses did not get their full allotment, and yet, as soon as the syndicate was dissolved these bonds sagged back to one or two points under the issuing price, - a fact that I cannot understand, and I feel that that reaction has affected adversely the bond market, although I am led to believe that since the first of July the general bond market has been improving, and without any additional assistance from the Federal Reserve System. It is my impression that there is still hanging over the market quite a volume of undigested bonds, bonds which may have been issued on terms un satisfactory to the general investor, and until those are cleaned up, and a rather intensive effort is made to change the attitude of the investor from Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives DECLASSIFIED Authority E •0» U3Sfe> 4 stocks to bondst nothing that the Federal Reserve System can do through the purchase of Governments will be helpful, and, as I said before, may be harmful and delay just the readjustment which we believe desirable. I am not so sure but what many of the members of the bond houses themselves are leaning toward stocks rather than bonds, for I know of several investment trusts or blind pools in common stocks that are either handled by investment houses or by certain representatives of those houses, I do not believe that any of us can quite estimate the enormous amount of investment funds that have gone into investment trusts or been handled by investment managers, or in these socalled blind pools. A large majority of that money has gone into stocks rather than bonds, and I do not know how that feature of investment business can be changed, or whether it is desirable to have it changed, but I do believe that it is a factor in our general credit situation which should be more carefully considered by our banking houses, and efforts made to issue a class of security which would be attractive to either that class of investment money or to the average investor. This, of course, would mean fewer bonds and more stocks, or bonds issued in some way to compete with the attractiveness of stocks. I trust that you will pardon the length of this letter, but I have been led to give my views rather fully, as I agree with you that the present situation is a very critical one, and one which we should all study and try to solve with an open mind. I am, Very sincerely yours, (Signed) FHC/D Frederic H. Curtiss, Chairman. Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives DECLASSIFIED Authority E ■C) • V235&? COPY FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF PHILADELPHIA July 8, 1930. My dear Governor Harrison: I am going away on Thursday for a fortnight’s vacation, and as I have a number of matters to arrange for, it would be im possible for me to attempt a detailed reply to your letter of July 3rd. Before leaving, however, I do want to set down a few random observations in reference to the bond market. It is true that the average price of bonds is not advanc ing, and that there is no broad and active market such as might be anticipated with the existing low rates for short-time money. What is the reason for this? Partly from my own observation, and partly from information for which I have asked in the last few days, I would say that there were three principal reasons - first, the fact that the constant pressure which has been applied upon member banks by Reserve Banks throughout the country during the last year or year and a half to get out of debt has probably led a great many banks to take advantage of any appreciation in any of their holdings, to sell enough bonds to accomplish that purpose. Secondly, because the in dividual investor has not yet freed himself from the effect of the propaganda that was so general last year that stocks were, in the long run, a better investment than bonds, because in times when the purchasing power of the dollar was low a fixed return on a bond meant •:'u~ practically a reduction of income. Those who acted on this theory have been pretty badly burned in the last nine months, but they are not yet ready to go back to bond purchases. Thirdly, the large volume of new issues which have come upon the market. 'T note a statement in one financial weekly that for the first half of this year bond issues totaled over 3 1/2 billions, compared with 2 billions in the first half of 1929, and less than 3 1/2 billions in the first half of 1928. I talked yesterday with Mr. Law, President of the Penn Mutual Life Insurance Company - an old institution which has over 2 billions insurance in force - and this morning with Mr. Hopkinson, of Drexel & Company, who told me that he had frequently discussed the matter with his partners here, and with their partners in New York, and that his views were, he thought, the views of all of them. Mr. Law told me that since the first of this year they had bought (for the first time) over 5 million dollars preferred stocks,had increased their bond hold ings by about 15 millions, and had also increased their holdings of mortgages, but that the increase in mortgages had not been as large as Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives d e c l a s s if ie d Authority B • 0 * \23S(? he would have wished it to be, because they could not get the mortgages. Mr. Hopkinson said that he would call the bond market "pretty good”; that there was little or no trouble in selling highgrade bonds, although the sales were principally to institutions, the small individual bond buyer being out of the market. Both he and Mr. Law ascribe this fact to the stock-buying propaganda of last year, to which I have already alluded. In answer to my question whether he thought that any railroad, public utility, or industrial corporation! with good credit, had any difficulty in securing capital funds at the present time at very reasonable rates, he replied nNo.w He added that while the question whether a corporation had to pay 6f0 or 6fo for the capital to make an extension or improvement might be determinative, he thought it made little or no difference whether the rate was 4 1fz% 5 or 5 1/2$. To the further question whether, as a distributor of bonds, he would like to see some stimulant applied to the market, he again replied in the negative, adding that he was alv?ays opposed to artificial attempts to interfere with natural laws; that if a stimulant were to be applied that would raise bond prices, all dealers would naturally sell bonds at the prevailing prices, and that when this artificial stimulant was withdrawn there would be a regrettable reaction. I am thoroughly in accord with you on the desirability of bringing about, if possible, a better world distribution of capital. Conditions in this respect seem to be improving. For the first half of this year, the sales of foreign bonds in this country were over 758 mil lions, which is in excess of the totaljbr the whole of last year. That the improvement is not greater is due, I think, not to any action or in action of ours, but to the kind of talk indulged in by Mr. McFadden, papers like the Chicago Tribune, and a certain group of Senators. I have sought this information* not for the purpose of bolster ing up my own view of the matter, but with the honest purpose of chang ing my view if facts weru other than as I supposed them to be* I must say that the information I get from these two sources tends to confirm my own View of the -Pniij:! ftganftaa gnd nmii.sdcgn of attempting to depress still further the abnormally low interest rates now prevailing. I am, Very sincerely yours, (Signed) Mr. George L. Harrison, Governor, Federal Reserve Bank, New York City. G-eo. W. Norris, G-overnor. ^ r Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives DECLASSIFIED Authority E • 0 • V23S(p COPY FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF RICHMOND July 10, 1930* Dear Governor Harrison: I am sending you herewith copy of a letter which I sent out on yesterday to our directors with respect to further open market purchases of securities and my reasons for the opinion, which concurs with that of your hank, as set forth in your letter. I think I will send a copy of this letter to each member of the Executive Committee of the Open Market Policy Conference. They had the opportunity to express their views at the meeting of the Executive Committee, and I think it j,n order to express my own views as a member of the full committee# Very truly yours, (Signed) GJS-CCP Encl. Mr. George L. Harrison, Governor, Federal Reserve Bank of New York, New York City* Geo, J. Seay, Governor* Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives d e c l a s s if ie d Authority B •0•\23S(p (Copy of Letter to Directors) FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF RICHMOND CONFIDENTIAL July 9, 1930, Dear Mr. On June 27 we received from the Secretary of the Open Market policy Conference a copy of the minutes of the Executive Committee, which held a meet ing in Washington with the Board on June 23. At that time there came up for consideration the question whether the Federal Reserve System should continue the purchase of government securities with the view of aiding the business situation through the credit market. It was generally agreed that business was very sick indeed, not only in this country but throughout the world# After a review of conditions, it was voter) fmir +n r"e)‘a'l~Vir> ona-nmi that it was, ffoft desirable at-Hxl^-ti.me fnr. the Tfederal Reserve System to undertake any further open market purchase of securities. The New York bank was the only bank represented on the Executive Committee voting in favor of further purchas es. At the meeting of the committee, members of the Federal Reserve Board present were: Platt, Hamlin, James, and Comptroller Pole. On yesterday we received from Governor Harrison a letter giving in extenso the views of the directors of the New York bank relative to business and credit conditions, of which I enclose a copy. In my letter of June 13 to our directors, I stated that it appeared to me that we would very shortly be called upon to consider whether the System should continue the purchase of government securities, and I then expressed the opinion that this bank could very well afford to join, as a matter of policy, in the continued purchase of securities if approved by the conference or a majority thereof. I now unequivocally give it as my opinion that the flvstem should con-_ pnT>^haPA nf securities in a limited amount each week, say, §>25,000,000 a week for at least two or three weeks, witn tne"desire and m the.hope or giv ing a stimulus, or at least encouragement, to business and vn hnpR the effecjjLUr-'be-benef4-e4al. My belief is that the directors of the New York bank are correct in their position. It is my own conviction that the injection of a reasonable amount of Federal reserve credit into the situation will be more effective in results than- the existing very low discount rates of the principal Federal Reserve Bank. It seems to me that the reasoning of the New York bank is good and sound. That is to say, no certainty is felt that either low dis count rates or further purchases of government securities will of themselves stem the decline in commodity prices or restore business activity; and they are certainly right in holding that both of these influences are inherently helpful, although many other factors may have to be called into cooperation to bring about immediate, or early, favorable results. They are also unquestionably right, from my own point of view, that under existing conditions the continued purchase of securities can do no harm, and since in principle and in practice and in [/// Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives d e c l a s s if ie d Authority E •0» V23Sfc> 2 experience this is inherently a helpful influence, there is a strong likelihood that it will accomplish some good. As I view the matter, it is a favorable time to accumulate a strong portfolio of investments, with the view of establishing a measurable control of the credit situation later on if, perchance, there should develop a tendency to use credit too extravagantly for speculative purposes, as was the case in the latter part of 1927 and subsequently. Perhaps you read in the recent economic report of the Royal Bank of Canada that unless the Federal Reserve System did fnrp.R its credit into circulation, tnere would develop a depression as severe as in 1920 and 192ll That opinion may be taken for what it is~wortn, but at least it shows that minds in other countries are at work to make use of all tho factors which experience has taught us aid in stimulating recovery from busi ness depression. There seems to be an opinion held not only in this country but in other countries that, notwithstanding the temporary cheapness of short-time credit and a plethora of such credit, there is a shortage of capital funds. During the first five months of this year, nearly $3,000,000,000 of new securities were- issued. There are those who contend that the depression in the security markets is due to an overissue of securities, just as the depression in the commodity market is at tributed to an overproduction of raw and manufactured goods. That may be. But that there are uses to which capital funds can be put, and that there is a world wide shortage of capital funds, I believe there can be little, if any, doubt. It is certainly true in other countries; and, as it appears to me, one of the influx ences which has operated to bring about depression in other countircs — and by retroaction in this country — is the cessation or decline in the exportation of capital from this country. Other countries have not the means to purchase from us as freely as they would like to purchase and as they could purchase to advan tage. I believe that is admitted. We are feeling very severely the decline in our exports, although a considerable part of that decline (expressed in dol lars) may be duo to lower prices. Notwithstanding the purchase of $50,000,000 of government securities, the volume of Federal reserve credit in use, expressed by the System's holdings of bills and securities, declined $63,000,000 between June 4 and June 25. Last week's statement of the Federal Reserve System showed that during the week endu ing July 2, the amount of Federal reserve credit in use increased £134,000,000, but that was caused by an increase in money circulation of ^127,000,000 for holi day purposes. Of course other factors entered into the increase but the chief factor was the demand for currency. During that week, borrowings from Federal Reserve Banks increased ^>30,000,000, notwithstanding the purchase of bankers' acceptances amounting to ^55,000,000, and about ^13,000,000 of government securities taken over under repurchase agreement. The call lo^.n rate rose from 2fo to 3$, All of tho foregoing facts demonstrate a need of Federal reserve funds, even though the demands outlined above may be of only a temporary nature. But the time is fast approaching when demands for credit of a purely seasonal character will increase, and as I view the case, this makes it all the more a propitious time for supplying Federal reserve funds to the market, rNo.t for many years have I seen such general discouragement over the ) business outlook, and at the present moment this~i‘cc±ing is”pcrhaps fit its--- * Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives d e c l a s s if ie d Authority E • 0» U3Sfe> 3 latest depth. The improvement in the long-time money market, or in the bond market, has been very much less than the rates for short-time funds would lead us to expect. While business will not embark upon long-time undertakings unless it can see a profitable outlook, and while an addition to capital funds supplied by the Federal Reserve Banks through the purchase of government securities would not necessarily induce those into whose hands these capital funds might come to enter into long-time undertakings, nevertheless it cannot be disputed that a plentitude of capital funds will trickle into use through whatever openings are offered, with the result of increased activity and improvement of sentiment* Since April 30, the loans of all reporting member banks up to July 2 have increased only $15,000,000, During that time their deposits increased $419,000,000, and looking around for the employment of these funds, the banks increased their investments by $329,000,000, while their borrowings from Federal Reserve Banks during the period increased only $10,000,000. If by reason of tho injection of Federal reserve credit into the market, bank deposits are in creased in the usual way,— as they will be,— the banks themselves will in crease their investments if there is no increased demand for loans. This in itself will give material aid to the security markets in a perfectly legitimate and helpful way. Loans on securities by these reporting member banks between April 30 and July 2 increased only ^41,000,000, and all other loans increased by about the same amount, so that the banks were driven into the investment market for the use of their funds. Plentitude of credit would likewise drive individuals into the investment market. It is thus by an increase of the supply of capital funds that eventual good will be brought about. I am therefore in favor of the continued purchases of government securities by Federal Reserve Banks, partly because if we do not make these purchases we will be guilty of neglecting the only means by which we can contribute to the recovery of business, and partly because, as I believe, the result cannot be otherwise than favorable, even though it may be only to a limited extent. The pressure of abundant capital funds will inevitably find an outlet. Very truly yours, GJS-CCP GEO. J. S-iAY, Governor. Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives DECLASSIFIED Authority E • O■V23Sfe> COPY FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF ATLANTA July 11, 1930. Dear Governor Harrison: I acknowledge receipt of your letter of July 3rd relative to your views and the views of your Directors as to further purchases of governments. Your letter was most interesting because of the able man ner in which those views were expressed. Fortunately, we had a meeting of our reserved your letter in order that it might be for advice or instructions from them as to the further governments at the rate of $25,000,000 pation in such purchases. Directors today and I presented to our Board policy of purchasing a week and our partici I presented to our Directors the report of the meeting of the Executive Committee of date <JUn© 23rd and specifically called their at tention to the action of that Committee on the question of further purchases of governments and to Governor Norris* expressed opinion in those minutes on that subject. I also called the attention of the Directors to the letter of Governor Calkins giving his reasons for dis approving the first purchase of $50,000,000 of governments. So that our Directors had before them, first, the report of the Executive Committee, second, the views of Governor Norris, third, the views of Governor Calkins, and fourth, your own views and the views of your Directors as expressed in your letter of July 3rd. In submitting this question of policy and of our bank*s part in that policy to the Directors, I give my own views as follows: "In this report I have given you the action of the Executive Committee of the Open Market Policy Conference and the individual views of Governors Calkins, Norris and Harrison. I cannot agree with the con clusions of Governors Norris and Calkins. I. do agree with the arguments and conclusions of Governor Harrison. I do believe that the Reserve System has a responsibility T6Ward the bond market, as an instrument to ward financing new enterprises, furnishing long time capital and stimulating the world market. I do not believe that money is redundant for long time investments. I appreciate the fact that the bond market, in so far as governments are concerned, is strong and is fairly strong as to high grade bonds, but I do feel that a surplus should be kept in the money market to stimulate the bond market. Such a surplus may be supplied through government purchases. r-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - -- -----------Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives DECLASSIFIED Authority E ■0 • U3S4? 2 "As I see it, the alternative to buying governments is to do nothing. The rediscount rate has already been lowered in New York, the money center of this country, to 2 1/2 per cent. This would appear cer tainly to be low enough and many might be justified in thinking it is too low* In my opinion a further reduction in the rediscount rate at that central bank might be taken as evidence of alarm at present conditions and in increasing that alaJrm might be more harmful than helpful. "Some believe that the present situation must work out of it self; that outside or artificial help will not avail. I feel that a patient is entitled to every remedy. Inaction of the Reserve System might in my opinion be construed as indifference or mightHbe accepted as_liQ|i(itency. I should dislike for the System to confess either. I therefore feel that the System should purchase governments and that our bank:-:should favor and participate in such purchases to the extent of its power, and that as a System policy the System should actively aid in this manner at least in a restoration of business activity. It may take a long time for the money put into the market to seep into our own district or into the markets of the world and benefits from it may be hard to dis tinguish or recognize because of the extended depression in the nation and in the world, but we will at least feel that the System chose an ac tive rather thtn a waiting and inactive part in restoration." After a very full and interesting discussion on the part of our Directors a resolution was adopted approving the policy of purchasing governments at the rate of $25,000,000 per week and the participation of this bank to the extent of its power in such purchases* I am glad to communicate to you this action of our Directors and my own position in this matter. With my warm personal regards, I am Sincerely yoursr (Signed) B-C E. R. Black, Governor. Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives DECLASSIFIED Authority E ■0» U3Sfc> COPY FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF CHICAGO CONFIDENTIAL July 10, 1930. Mr. George L. Harrison, Governor, Federal Reserve Bank of New York, New York, New York. Dear Governor Harrison: Your letter of the 3rd instant was duly received. It refers to the recent meeting of the Executive Committee of the \ Open Market Policy Conference, at which time a majority of those,present-xetod ^J/ that in,their opinion it would be inadvisable to make further -purchases of Governmentsecurities for the System account. It also reviews the statement which you made at the meeting of the committee in Washington, wherein they were advised that on June 19 your directors had voted that in their opinion further purchases of Government securities should be made in the amount of about $25,000,000 a week, and advises that following the action taken in Washington, your board had again given consideration to the question involved; had reiterated its views in favor of further purchases of government securities, and had suggested that you communicate with the governors of all Federal re serve banks, in order that they might be fully informed as to some of the reasons why your board has been in favor of doing everything possible with a view to facilitating the recovery of business, the inference being that the proposed purchases would be a step in that direction. I note particularly that while your board does not feel that low discount rates or additional purchases of government securities will of themselves fix conanodity prices or restore business, they believe further pur chases of government securities may accomplish some good, and, in any event, can do no harm. I also note your reference to the view held by your board of directors that the System should take all possible steps, whether through adjustment of discount rates or open market operations which may facilitate a more active and stronger bond market, believing that this course will make available needed capital funds for new enterprise and at the same time will restore to some extent the now seriously curtailed purchasing power of some foreign countries. The views which I expressed before the committee with respect to the recent purchase of ^50,000,000 of government securities and the question of additional purchases were substantially as follows: r —— --------------------- Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives DECLASSIFIED Authority E • 0» \23Sfe> 2 When the |50,000,000 purchase was under consideration, I was of the opinion that the extremely low rates for credit then prevailing offered no resistance to the use of credit for any or all legitimate purposes, and that it seemed to me the available supply of credit was then in excess of the needs of business. Consequently, I did not approve of the purchase referred to, and it was for the same reason that I could not consistently support the suggestion that further purchases should be made in the amount of about $65,000,000 per week. As matters now stand, there appears to be an abundance of funds in the market, and under these circumstances, as a matter of prudence, I believe that it should be the policy of the Federal Reserve System to maintain a position of strength, in readiness to meet future demands, as and when they arise, rather than to put reserve funds into the market when not needed. In the past it has been clearly demonstrated that as the result of long-continued abnormally low rates for credit, banks and other lendors of money are driven to take risks which otherwise they would not assume, and while there is apparently no danger at the moment of over-speculation in stocks, speculation might easily arise in some other direction. Thereforet I amjg6t iin agreement witrh yrm-r n-in» placing of additional reserve credit in tho market under conditions now current wcnn do no harm.” As you are fully aware, through informal conferences which I have had with you from time to time, followed by your comprehensive statement made to the conmiittee at its meeting in Washington, I have at least in a general way been well informed as to tho underlying reasons upon which the convictions of your board have been based. Accordingly, I have been able to keep our directors quite well informed, but even so, since your letter goes into greater detail and perhaps touches some points not heretofore discussed, I shall be very glad to submit it to our committee at its next meeting. You will of course understand that I shall be very glad to have you convey the views expressed heroin to your board of directors. Very truly yours, (Signed) LK B. McDougal, Governor. J. Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives DECLASSIFIED Authority E • 0 » V23S4? COPY FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF ST. LOUIS July 9, 193©. Mr. Georg© L. Harrison, Governor, Federal Reserve Bank, New York, N. Y. Dear Governor Harrison: Your letter of the 3rd was received by Governor Martin prior to his leaving for a vacation. He discussed the subject with me and I have since shown the letter to other officers of the bank and today read it at the meeting of our Executive Committee. We appreciate your writing us at length giving your views of the situation and the reasons back of your recommendation to buy more governments. We, too, are favorable to having the System contribute to the fullest extent to facilitate a recovery of business. The discussion here develops the idea that excessive efforts in the interest of fictitious easy money may have just the opposite effect from "that intended. It has been suggested that such efforts have the psychological effect of increasing the feeling of uncertainty and thus discouraging buying other than necessity demands. I have talked with a number of business men and in almost every instance they are aware that the Federal Reserve Banks are exerting unusual efforts to stimulate business by easy money, but the effect is greater cautiousness on the part of business until the turn is evident. When Dr. Burgess talked with Governor Martin the early part of last month regarding the recommendation to purchase 25 or 35 million in governments, which later resulted in the purchase of 50 million, the Governor indicated the feeling of our officers when he stated that we are not in a position to judge this matter from the broad, general standpoint, particularly as it may have to do with international affairs, to the same extent the New York officers and directors are, but that we are more influenced by conditions in the Eighth District and from that standpoint we can see no justification for increasing the holdings of governments. Th^.t is likewise true today. On the other hand, it is our desire to cooperate, as evidenced by our participation in recent pur chases for System account. This is the time of the year when the demands of our member banks should normally increase and this with the fact that our present reserve is slightly under the average for the System, together with the fact that our total holdings of government securities are somewhat heavy, places us in the position of wanting to at this time commit ourselves to participate in any purchases *that may be made in tho immediate future. \^y Yours Very truly (Signed) 0. M. Attebery, Deputy Governor. Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives d e c l a s s if ie d Authority E •0•U35£? COPY FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF MINNEAPOLIS July 7, 1930. Mr. George L. Harrison, Governor, Federal Reserve Bank, New York, N. Y. Dear Governor Harrison: Replying to yours of July 3rd, regarding action of the Open Market Policy Conference Executive Committee, I agree with you that the Federal Reserve System should do everything within its power to facilitate and hasten the recovery in business, and should bo in a position so that, looking back in future years, it cannot be said that we neglected any opportunity or put any obstacles in tho way of prompt recovery. However, it soens to me that there is danger of stimulating financing which will lead to still more over\y/f production while attempting to mate it easy to do financing which will increase consumption* Then, too, as I read the chart which accompanies your letter, bond prices today are practically on a level with February, 1927, and not so very far from ?foere they were at the peak in 1928, and we are faced with the danger of stimulating buying at a high figure which will show purchasers a hoavy loss when business again gets active and money rates rise. I should say that nine out of ten of the country bond buying banks in this district have shown a heavy depreciation in the bond account due to purchases in 1927 and 1928 and will be very slow to repeat the experience now. As a matter of fact, tho investment account of tho reporting member banks is higher today than it ever has been, except for a very short period in 1928, and it seems to me a much safer way to let nature take its course and not try to force matters artificially at this time. Yours very truly, (Signed) WBG-C W. B. Geery, Governor. Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives DECLASSIFIED Authority E • 0* V2356? COPY FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF KANSAS CITY July 15, 1930. My dear Governor Harrison: Your letter of July 3 was held over until our board meet ing and was read in their presence and we also discussed it in our organization a good deal. I want to congratulate you on your fine defense that you made of New York’s position in the Open Market Policy Conference at Washington, June 23. Personally, we would like the earning power of a few mil lion dollars of government securities but we are so far removed from the real activities that would justify this that we hesitate to take a position at this time. Business in the Tenth District is not so bad yet as seems to be reported and, though it is slowing down and the low prices of farm ccmmodities are discouraging, we are watching with a good deal of interest the operations of the Federal Farm Board* As you known, Mr. Legge and Secretary Hyde have been out here in the middle west defending their position; they have critics and they have supporters* Thu real test of the business conditions as the result of this slump will be felt here in the fall more than now. Wo arc anxious to help in every way we can to improve these conditions but we don*t feel that we want to go u p against a four to one -position of the Open Market Policy Conference. But your letter was very interesting and very enlightening and has had more attention by our board and our organization than anything of the kind for some time. Assuring you of my highest personal regards and confidence in your judgment and your ability, I am Most sincerely yours, (Signed) Hon. George L. Harrison, Governor, Federal Reserve Bank of New York, New York, N. Y. W. J. Bailey, Governor. Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives DECLASSIFIED Authority E ■0•U3Sk COPY FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF DALLAS July 15, 193Q. Dear Governor Harrison: Your interesting letter of July 3 was duly received and as suggested I read it to our Directors at their last regular meeting, at which all Directors were present except one* Our Directors, as well as all of our senior officers who also read your letter, appreciate very much indeed your writing us the views of your Board and your courtesy in supporting these views with the arguments drawn from their experience and their observations of the present situation. You should have had an earlier reply but in view of your familiarity with my own views, frequently expressed on recent occasions, and your knowledge that our Directors end officers are in complete harmony with these views, I am convinced that my having delayed an answer to your letter has not created any suspense on your part. I hope that you will not be disappointed when I write you that our f Directors wererliojDimpreased with the arfiiTnanta which you presented. They are quite willing to go along with the System majority view in any case, even to a fairly limited degree of expedient action, but not inclined to countenance much interference with economic trends through artificial methods to compose situations that in themselves grow out of events recognized at the time as being fallacious. Putting the view in my own language and in a way that I have expressed it several times at our conferences, they are unwilling to interpose direct action in a period of reaction to a previous period of action that perhaps, shall I say, was not courageous enough or did not go far enough in its preventive attributes. I hope that you have not misunderstood and will not misunderstand our policy as being one directed toward pressure in the present circumstances, or one directed in favor of firm money, or that we are opposed to easing in the circum stances that have existed since last October. We are all profoundly of the opinion that there should be no obstacles to an easing of credit on the part of the System but that such easing should be in seme proper ratio to that which would ensue naturally from the reaction. The thought is simply this — that a direct effort toward ease on the part of the System should not through artificial means transcend the force of reaction measured by the force of action at the high point of the force of action in the opposite circumstances* To illustrate — rediscount rates, in view of the reaction, would naturally fall to a certain point, but if through artificial and arbitrary action, rediscount rates are reduced beyond that natural point and open market transactions are used to force a rediscount rate below that point to which it would naturally fall, then reserve credit would be forced into illegitimate channels and the total amount of credit, based upon the excess reserve credit released, would find its way into long term investments where it does not belong, and the tendency would be far another period of inflation to ensue without v/ stopping at the natural point of readjustment from which recovery would proceed in a natural way* We all deplore the worldwide fall in prices in all categories. Prices, however, are made by transactions and markets are simply the place where prices are reflected. We do not believe, therefore, that markets have reached a stale mate. If that were true there would be no fluctuations in prices either downward Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives DECLASSIFIED Authority E • 0» V23Sfe? Z or upward and this would indicate that no business was being transacted. Hie fact that there is a fluctuation in prices, even though such fluctuations may be down ward, indicates that business is being done and though it may not be in large volume, what business is done at each level is bound to result in an erosion of surpluses. To put that question quite bluntly, if coumodities are too cheap, why ux doesn’t someone buy them? We have been impressed with the preliminary report of the Census Bureau, showing that on April 1 there were only two million people unemployed in the United States. We appreciate the fact that of all the statistics gathered, perhaps those relating to unemployment are the most inaccurate. We are inclined to believe, also, that the number of unemployed has increased since the census date, but that this has been largely in the reduction in the hours employed rather than in any tremen dous increase in the number wholly unemployed. We make this statenant based upon information that has come to us in recent weeks of compromises that have been effected between employers and groups of employes. Unemployment will increase in direct ratio to the increase in real wages. We think also that we should not lose sight of the fact that much of the purchasing power which has been lost or eliminated for the time being, was merely potential purchasing power based upon a consideration of the continuance of inflation and was measured largely by paper profits that disappeared with the stock market crash. The improvement in the quality of goods as one of the principal products of competition, is a most important factor in present under-consumption. Goods have reached a stage of such high quality that the intervals between purchase and replacement have became much longer than formerly and this trend will continue in direct ratio to the improvement in quality. This principle is of course affected by whimsical influences that occur in boom times of inflated business and to the extent credit is used to make purchases instead of buying with savings. In a period of reaction, however, the volume of sales of the higher quality of goods declines and the trend is toward the purchase of the lower quality and lowerpriced merchandise, either as a temporary expedient or in order to confine the dollar amount of purchases within the limits of income. Over-production arises from ample capital and a high use of credit. When over-production occurs, there fore, there must be a compensating decline in the use of capital and credit and both become redundant. If a demand for capital appears in such instances it must assuredly come from enterprises that were undertaking to do business on deficient capital during the period of inflation and moreover through an excessive use of credit instead of capital, and the demand for capital in such circumstances is an admission of the pinch of liquidation and capital is therefore sought to accom plish it. Some of our Directors felt that at least two of the arguments which you presented were contradictory. If what I have said above has any merit and over production flows from an ample use of capital and a high use of credit, and you virtually stated this in your letter, then the satisfaction of a demand for further capital supplies would tend to increase over-production. At our last meeting our rediscount rate was maintained at 4# because our Directors felt that the conditions in this distriat did not warrant a reduc tion in the rate. Our purely seasonal borrowing has been almost exactly in the same volume this year as last year and while the number of borrowing banks has increased by some fifty or sixty, the average per bank borrowing is #10,000 less Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives d e c l a s s if ie d Authority E • 0» V23Sfc> 3 than it was last year. With the city bank borrowing arising last year largely from a depression in bond prices, a withdrawal of funds from the district attract ed by the high rates in New York, the stock market speculation and a withdrawal of funds for the purpose of making purchases after the crash, practically elimi nated, we have felt that the reduction of 1$ in our rate from last year's figure, is and has been sufficient. One of our Directors, however, voted against the maintenance of a 4$ rate and was in favor of a 3 1/2# rate. The other Directors, however, felt that a reduction in our rate would express a stultification of their view in regard to excessive open market operations. Our Directors have always been very firm in their actions and quite willing to act upon thoir own initiative and to assume full responsibility for their decisions. As an illustration of their policy in this regard, in March 1929, our Board unanimously adopted a very firm policy applicable to those banks which were lending in the call money market or on securities generally, and at the same time borrowing from us. This policy was carried into effect simply but none the less firmly and all of our banks that were lending in the call market and heavily on listed securities, were required to cease borrowing from us and to liquidate their indebtedness to this bank. One of these banks argued with us until May 21, and liquidated its line on that date. Another was recalcitrant and rebellious but at the meeting of our Board on October 7, 1929, our Directors by a standing, unanimous vote called the line of that particular member, amounting to approximately $1,750,000, and which was mainly secured by governments. -— We have a high respect for New York as the financial center of the country and a terminal market and we try to fully appreciate its responsibilities. Moreover we realize that as long as New York is all right so is the country. How ever we also think that it should assume responsibility for what it does not do as well as what it does undertake, and that it should have the fortitude to meet a period of reaction and go through an era of readjustment patiently and calmly, acting in accordance with conditions as they are found, instead of undertaking to make conditions as they are desired, with the result of shaking their congestion out on the country. We realize that what we did here during the period of the business and stock market boom did not have any effect on the general situation and wasn’t even a drop in the bucket, but it was an expression of what we be lieved to be a correct principle and it showed the member banks in this district a determination to enforce our policies and we would stand for no trifling. May I not at the risk of being misunderstood, use a figure that illus trates how we feel about the present situation, and which connotes our opposition to the policy advocated by your Directors of which your letter is an expression. If a physician either neglects a patient, or even though he does all he can for the patient within the limits of his professional skill according to his best judgment, and the patient dies, it is conceded to be quite impossible to bring the patient back to life through the use of artificial respiration or injections of adrenalin. We are still convinced that capital must flow from savings, either represented by an excess of income over expenditures, from profits or from the creation of new wealth, and we are not convinced even by your fine letter, that it can be supplied with reserve bank credit. We also feel that the quality of capital issues has a lot to do with it too, and have the feeling that the inferior quality of many issues that are being used as the instruments of capital has quite as much to do with the situation as tho over-abundance of issues generally. Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives declassified Authority E • 0 • V23Sk In closing this tedious letter I desire very much to reiterate our oft-repeated statement that we will abide by the majority view of the System and that we will participate in open market purchases to the extent that our collateral and reserve position will permit when those purchases are advocated or confirmed by a majority view, and will cheerfully assume our part of the responsibility for that view should it subsequently develop to have been in error. Sincerely yours, (Signed) Mr. George L. Harrison, Governor, Federal Reserve Bank of New York, Now York City. Lynn P. Talley, Governor. Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives DECLASSIFIED Authority E • 0 » 123S<p COPY FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF SAN FRANCISCO July 10, 1930# My dear Governor Harrison: Thank you very much for your comprehensive and inter esting letter of July 3* 1 have not read it to our Directors as there has not been an opportunity, and will not bo before the seventeenth* I have, however, read it to* and discussed it with our Executive Committee, and I think that what follows may be fairly said to be the unanimous view of the Officers and Directors of this Bank, as your expressions are those of tho unanimous opin ion of th<j Officers and Directors of the Now York bank* (For the sake of brevity, may I hereafter use you, we* utc., intending in each case what is indicated above.) There is no difference between your views and ours in regard to present conditions. It is possible that the depression is a little less acute here than on the Atlantic coast, and also that, as we usually enjoy a rnoro rosy outlook, w o may not be quite so much depressed* However, at the moment, we are enjoying a season of physical fog as well as economic fog so that altogether I think the psychological atmosphere is comparable* There is no difference between your view and our view as to what condition it is desirable to accomplish, nor as to the obligation of the Federal Reserve System to do any, and all things, which can be properly done to facilitate, expedite, or encourage business recovery* There is, however, a very marked difference between your view and ours as to what should be done, and as to the effect of those things that you propose if they were done* Unfortunately, I think it is necessary to state most of our views in a negative foim, as follows: 1* We do |not^believe that the creation, promotion, or encouragement of a bond market is within tlie province of the Federal Reserve system, nor do we believe that any efforts which may be put forth by the System will result in such an improvement of the bond market as to favorably affect general business or foreign trade* It is, of course, undesirable to inject political terms, but it appears Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives DECLASSIFIED Authority E • 0 • V23Sfc> 2 to be unavoidable inasmuch as it appears to me that your propo sals are to a degree political. It is our belief that no encour agement of the market for foreign bonds can counterbalance the destructive effect upon our foreign trade of the tariff bill recently approved. 2. We believe that to make credit progressively cheaper and more abundant mav cause an unfavorable psychological reaction, rather than a favorable one. 3. We believe that the volume of credit forcibly fed to the market up to this tim© has had no considerable good effect, certainly no discernible effect in the last few months* We also believe that every time we inject further credit without appreci able effect, we diminish the probable advantage of feeding more to the market at an opportune moment which may come. This is a mere repetition, but I think this argument will bear reiteration because the argument that you advance; that is, Mso while there may be no definite assurance that open market operations in government securities will, of themselves, promote immediate recovery, we cannot foresee any appreciable harm that can result from such a policy, and believe that the seriousness of the present depression is so great as to justify taking every pos sible step as to facilitate improvement,” appears to be that on which you place most emphasis, raising, of course, the question which is the whole question, as to whether the operation you pro pose will or will not facilitate improvement. Surely no one would oppose, believing it would facilitate improvement, and no one propose, believing that it would not facilitate improvement. The chart which you enclose is interesting, but appears on too small a scale to be really convincing* It shows generally at times that we were buying, the bond market was improving, and vice versa, but shows a number of variations like 1925 and 1926, when we were selling heavily and the bond market steadily advanc ing. In other words, the study as shown on the chart does not appear to me to be sufficiently convincing to justify a final con clusion. The foregoing may contain nothing but repetition of mv letter of June 17, probably because our views have not changed "since that letter was written. I appreciate very much your industry and conscientiousness in setting forth the situation as you see it / ^ Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives DECLASSIFIED Authority E •0» V23Sfe> 3 so fully, and certainly hope that you will continue to give us the benefit of your views. There is one other suggestion, not relating to policy, but to procedure, which perhaps I should not include in this letter; that is, that it appears to me that, when a major operation is pro posed and the approval of the members of the Open Market policy Con ference sought by telephone, with the result that a majority of one supports the proposal, an actual conference should be called before such proposal is put into effect, as it is, of course, obvious that, after a round table discussion, a majority of one might be converted to a minority of one. I do not by any means intend this as criticism of what was done, but as a suggestion regarding future procedure. I am not eager to take trips across the continent in mid-sunnier unless it is necessary, but I would much prefer to undergo whatever hardship is in cident to such a trip than to enjoy comfort in this salubrious climate at the cost of some responsibility for what I believe to be an undesir able record, which might come home to trouble us. Yours very truly, (Signed) Mr. George L. Harrison, Governor, Federal Reserve Bank of New York, New York City. Jno. U. Calkins, Governor. Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives F o r m No. 131. Office Correspondence To Federal Reserve Board__________ Mr. Noell_____________________ J FEDERAL RESERVE 80480 rw July 21. 1950. Subject:._____________ _______________ _ ' ____ __________ There is attached hereto, for your information, ___ ^ from the Governor of the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas, submitting a"copy of his reply, under date of July 15, tfj Governor Harrison’s letter of July regarding the advisability of farther purchases of Government securities. Gov. Young] Mr. Platt, Mr. Hamlin, Mr. James, Mi*. CunninghAi. Mr. M i l l e r ^ ^ H ^ ^ ' Hr. P o l e W ^ Please circulate promptly and return to this office. Reproduced from the Unclassified/ Declassified Holdings of the National Archives FEDERAL R E S E R V E BANK O F DALLAS July 16, 1930. Federal Reserve Board Washington, D, C. Gentlemen: For the Board's information I am enclosing a copy of my reply to Governor Harrison's letter of July 3, a copy of which he advised was sent to the Board* His letter was written as a result of the negative action of the Executive Committee of the Open Market Policy Conference at its meeting on June 23, in reference to the favorable recommendation of the New York bank for the further pur chase of government securities by the System. Yours very truly R e p r o d u c e d fr o m t h e U n c l a s s i f i e d I D e c l a s s i fi e d H o l d i n g s of the N a ti o n a l A r c h i v e s Baar kyraracr li&rriaent tmat iutara#t.inc lattar of July 3 waa duly raocired and m aufgantad X raad It to our mraetora at thair la#t ro^ular m m & l m * ** which all Mraetora wara praaast axoapt ana* @«r m »all aa all of w aanior offioor# who alao road ycmr lattar, appraoiata wary i«oh l&Aaad your writing u« the yiawa of ywir Boar* and your oo*8"ta*y In tt » a tlaw* with tha arjruwanta drawn froe thoir «xp«rieiMt and thoir obaarvwti ona of the praaant »1 tuation* J m ehoald M m bad an earlier reply hot in Tiew of your fam iliarity with say own viewa, frequently expreeeed on recant oeeaaiona, and your knowledge I I # our Slrootoim a»ft offleor* are ia a©i*i!#§« t e « s iy with the*« ri*ws, I m that ay %mvtm delayed m answer ~to your lot tor hea not created any «*t#penee m your $«r%* ! \ I hope that you will not bo disappoints when | write you that our Uireot&ra woro not i^reased with the argwatnta which you pr rented..They are f»lte willing t© go aloiu* with tho 3y§lam n»Jority riow in any caw, m r m to a fairly limits degree of expedient aotion, but not inclined to countenance riuoh interference with e e w i o d a tranda through artificial aetboda to eoKQ*>ee el nations that in theaeelyea m m - out of evanta rooosniaod at the tino a# beinp: fallacious, rotting tho irlipt in m$t m m in * m y that I hfcve exprazeed it eeveral tiiwa at our conferences, they taro unwilling to intarpoee direct notion in a period of reaction to * p t m i m m period of aotion that perhapa, nhall 1 aay, waa not courageous enough or Aid not go far onongfe it lta preventive attribute*. t hope that you have not misunderstood and not misunderstand mrr polity aa boln^ one Oireeted toward preaaure in tha present circuraetancee, or one directed im favear of firw aoney, oaf that wo ere opposed to easing in tho cireuastaaoee ttiat ha*e axlatod ainoo laat Ootobor. m m m a ll profoundly of tr»a opinion ttet tfeora'should bo ao obataclaa to an oaain^ of orodit on tho part of tha Syataa but tiiat mch aaain^ ohotild bo in aosaa propar ratio to that whieh would mem naturally fron tha raaction, fha thow^ht la aiajjly thia — that a dlroot effort toward m m m tho part o f tha Byrten aho^ild not through a rtifie ia l w m m tmnaoond tl» of roactioo Maoarad by tha faraa of aotloa at Wm h i^ point of tha tm m of action ia tha oppoaita circtmatancaa* f@ llln atrata *** radiacoimt ratea, in H i * # f t M ahMn%i«nt wwili m i m m X k f fa ll to % pointf but if tlrssti a r t ifie ia l and arbitrary action, rcdiacount ratea are reduced Wyond t&at natural point and opan mrkat tranaactioaa ara ucad to foroa a rodlaoount rat# balow that point to ufoim . it w m M w & m & X f i l U ( than r@aarw> orodit woulJ be foroad into illa^ itiaa to ohanaols and tha' total aatmnt cradit, b<i»od upon tho axceos m m rim crodit raleasad, would find ita way Into lost torra lnTootaonto wharo it aoae not balon$, and tha tandanoy would ba for anothar period of inflation to « m m without atop^iag At tha naTurid poI»T^rraadjn»traont fro^whiclTrecovary wrniTa rroceod iT5 a natural way. l» all ^flflara tha wwrldwida fall im jriean in mil oattg^iaa, >ricoa, howavar, ara oada toy tranaactiona aad market* are airway tha gias# whora pricaa ara raflaotad* la do not baliayo, thwrafora, that nsarkato haya raachad a atala»a-t## If that wara trua thar© would ba no fluctuationa in pricaa aitl^f downward R e p r o d u c e d fr o m fh e U n c l a s s i f i e d I D eclassified H o l d i n g s of the N a ti o n a l A r c h i v e s or upward and tuts would imlioat# that j | Imalmmm woo be ins transacted. ftm fact tfiat thero 1* % fluctuation In price#, *f*a though mush fluctuation* m y be down* ward, lndicotea that bunineae is belntf doo# and though It may not be in'larpp ▼oluan. »>*t buuinosn la d m # at w c h l#yel la bound to result In an eroaian or surplus®*. <m put that Queetlcm quit# bluntly, if coaaaxSiUe# ere too cheap, why doeonn sotsossio buy than? I# been iapreeaed with tha prelliaiiiary report of the Cewm# ureau, m m lm that ©a 4 ^ U U 4 ^aNl ware only tWQ_JBHIion people uaagployed In the !M H I Stat#** 'i# appreaiat* tho fact that of a ll tha atatTe^Ioir g*tto*iNUl^rhajHt tk*o# relating to ore the xaoat Iwm-mmim* m mm inclined to believ#, ala© %Mt the xno&or of unemployed haa inoafooiiod alnoe tlso eenous d&to, but ttsat thio ha# bean largely in tha reduction in tfe» feouto employed yntHgf than In any traraandoua tncreaae in tha nawb#r wholly uivewployod. to m k * thia etateraaot baood upon Sjgosaftt&ttft that baa con* to na 1 b recent week# of cowpraoleee that h m * 1mm effected batweon aag>loy«ra oisd of employee. unemployaeat w ill im v m m in diroot ratio to tha iacre&ao in raal wa#*#. 10 think aleo that w# abould not Xoaa el^ht of tha fact that laeoh of tha punshaainc power which has bean lo«t or eliminated for the tDae bei^, wo# wwraiy potential ^ # ^ a # i ^ power b&oed upon % oonoldaamtion of tha oo&ttiwsiofl^ of inflation and waa seaeured largely fey fi#«r proflta that disappeared with the atook oorkat oraah* f&o fcqprovesoirt $» tha fuoiitr of w d » a# on# of ffco ptnoipol protet# of ooe^atitioa, is a '?so#t ii^jortoat factor in praaeut uadar-eonouapt ion. Good# have reached a atape of aueh high quality that the interyola between purchase and replaceiaeat hare begone such longer than formerly and this trend w l U continue in direct ratio to the i«prove«#nt in quality, fhi# principle la of couroe affected by whiaelcal influences that oe<rur in booa tinea of inflatad twalneoe and to tha octant credit la ua*4 to saiga jmrchooee inataad of buying with seringa. 1» a period of reaction, however, tha woltm of aalas of tba higher quality of ^ooda deoliaea and the trwsd ia towao-d the purehaae #f the lower quality and low**- , priced aarchaadloa, eithar aa a temporary axpodiost In order to oonfine tha dollar auwtmt a# pwHiooo* within tha I M ^ I Off 0f«3f*^M»da0t4oB ariaaa fro« aeiple oapltal and a high uaa of credit. 'Whan orer-produetloa 00cure, focre, tbaire »m»t be a ooa^>anaatlng dacllna In tha use of capital and credit and both beooaa radusdant. If a danand ftaar oapital appeera in aucfe itaBtanoea it « o t aaamredly ooraa tmm antarprlaaa that ware undartaking ^ do bu«lna«« on deficient capital during the period of infl»ti<m and ^ e o T e r through an exccaclva uae of srodit inat#ftd of and tfe# danand f^r oapltal in such 1* adtslaeioa of tha piaah of liquidation and capital ia therefore to plia^ it« Hoo» of our Directora felt that at leaat two of % m m m m m to whio^ you preaented were contradictory. If what I hare aald above haa any worit und orerproduction flows from on os|>l® uee of capital and 0.high uea of credit, and you virtual^ atated thie in your let tor, then tho of o dewnad for fwttmp capital e^plioo wo^ti tond I# Increaae oiro^p*©<^9tli*ft* k% m m laat iwetin^ our redia*ouat rato wae aiaintained at 0 beoauao our mrootoam M t that tho condition# in thla diatriot did not warmat a reduc tion in the rat** Our puraly eeAaosal borrowing law boos alnoet exaotly In t’-e aaia# toIwm thia year a# laat year aad whil# th# number of borrowing banka haa in«r#a*#« by aon# fifty or n i ^ , tb * * * m m * p#* te m m rtm 1 » |10#00© la#* R e p r o d u c e d fr o m th e U n c l a s s i f i e d / D e c l a s s i fi e d H o l d i n g s o f the N a ti o n a l A r c h i v e s & * » It m m l m % yv*r* m t & «ity fcft»k ariaintf laat f » i largely from € depreaeion in bond prleee, ft w t m & m m t of fund* m a t t&* itatriot attracted toy high rate# in m m York, th* atoek amrfcet speculation and a withdrawal of fuada for the purpose of Making jwrohaeee after Hn« eraali, practically aliednafcod, » f&l* that tlia reduction of 1# in our rata from laat y m r ' e figure, ic and ima bn*» «4fflolft«*t* one of our imrettora, however, voted aipimst tha imlsteaamft of a 4$ rata and w&a I* favor of ft S|$ rata* 'fti# other Mreetora, however, felt t&at a reduction in our rate would expresn a stultification of their view in re gard to exoesiilve opan market operationa. ■0m C r e a t o r s have al*aya been very f i » is their aotioaa and $<# william to act upon their o w initiative and to- ae^nwa f a H reeponeibility for thair dooialoaa. A* an Uluetratioa of thair policy 4s thic regard, im l$ar#h i#S#f CPUT Board unaniwouely adopted a w r y firm policy applicable to ihoae banka which war© leading in tha call rsottey aarfcet or m eeeuritiee £©ner&lly, and at the m m t i m borro*iaii «** fhl» wue carried into effect elrqply but none tha leaa f t a & p ft»d mil- of on* baatea that **r© lending. in th* eall m&tort and heavily on 11atad aeurltiea, were required to eeaa© borrowing from us and to lifuliat# thair indebtedaeea to thla bank, one of theae banka ar^tuad with ue until way 21, and liquidated It# line m that data. Am-lkm*' m » recaloitrant and ra ball locus but at tha naeting of our :3o«rd on October 7* 19£9, our Hreetora by / ftj^aad&ag* the line «f tlmt jfcrtl«miar amounting ^ to approodiwtely ,700,000^ a S 3 whT^vfcfTSalnly aeeured by>*ovem®?)te. w# have a high, respect for San Year* aa of tha oountry and ft iseapket and m try to- fully appreciate it* i^iipoaaibilitlaa* Ser#0*ftr m realise that aa long m W m York la all right eo i« tha country* nmt* ever wa alaa t&Jjft that it should aaeuse rceponalbility for what It doea not do aa vail aa what it doea undertake, and that it afcould have tha fortitude to meat a period of reaction and go through an era of raadjuataent patlaatly and oalraly, aaticg In ftoaordftaae with eonditioaa aa they are found, inatead of undertakiag to iBftke ooaditlona aa they «et# deaired, with tha roault of ahakin<r thair ooT^ation. out on the country, fft realiaie that what we did here during tha p m lot of tiia buBisaaa and a took raerket ^oo« #14 not have any effect on the funeral al tuation and waan*t even a drop i« the buaket, but it waa an oxpraaelon of wiiat we be lieved to m ft correct principle and it atowed the raeabar banka in this diatrlet a determination to anforoe our pollolea and wa would etond for no trifling. m y I not at the rlafc of bei « mlauaderetood, uee a flpera t&at illuahum m feel about the present aituetien, and which oonnoteo our opposition to the jN&itty advocated by f w m il^e o t W # of which your letter is an ©xprcaeion. If ft phyalclan either na^lftete a patient, or ©van thouf;h he doea all he can for tha patient within the liaita of hie profaaeional aklll a«o<ffdinjK to biff beat jud^aast, and tha patient dleet it la coaeaded to ba ^uita ij^>oaaible to the patient baak to life through the uae of artificial reapiratioa or injactiona of adi*a»ilia. trat«i m are a t i U ooavinoad t ^ t aafltal m a t frost aavinea, either repre»e»ted by aa exeeaa of incase o w expendituraft, from profita or frtm the m m u m of m m wealth, m & we are ^5t a^svi^eai a w %y ycwr fli» letter, it oaa be a l l i e d with reaerva bank credit. ^ alao feel that the quality of capital laauee haa a lot to do with it too, and have tha fueling tbat t/» inferifflp quality of m n y U a u e e that arc b a l m need aa the inatnnttenta of capital 'haa' fuite aa m c h to do with the aitmtioa aa the ®**r»ab*fiid&a#« of iaeuea R e p r o d u c e d fr o m th e U n c l a s s i f i e d / D e c l a s s i fi e d H o l d i n g s o f the N a ti o n a l A r c h i v e s •4 * IM Q&Mlm t h i a tadioua lattar I aaalap* atteh to- m itm m tm w stataw it that if# ni34 abide by ttm tty ti-tm of the ayatasa. and that ire w ill participate In open aarket purcha&ea to the extent that our collateral and reaerre poaition w ill permit whan thoee ptirohnaee are advocated or eonfiraiei by a iw jorlty vU m , m & w ill cheerfully aaauaa our part of the responaibility for that view #&©«!« it subsequently develop to hanr® bean is •TMP* Utneercly youra, § o v a r » e r Mr* @ w r p 1*.* »rrle«at Sovwmar Federal Beaer?# Baals of New York, H m York City, Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives F o r m X o . 131 FILS COt Office Corresponuence To.__ Bach Member of the Board* From Mr. m M k ttm.m m m FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD Date_ Subject "hmmm* f m jrntt mmt * m w *■ £#***# i&Mt m m u &# rnmmm.m s£ t&« *W*m mm#** m* t o m*mim m m m t o m #t W m '$mm *t W * m m #f $»* ?©*& *• •**>•*% • farther |m«Niee« of U lM i *i< x irltle *. Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives DECLASSIFIED Authority E • 0 • V23S\o Fe d e r a l R e s e r v e o f CONFIDENTIAL Ba n k N e w Yo r k July 5, 1950* Dear Mr. Platt: For the information of the Federal Reserve Board, I am glad to transmit herewith a copy of a letter which we have today dispatched to the governor of each of the Federal reserve banks, briefly summarizing the reasons which have prompted our directors to advocate continued further purchases of government securities. Very truly yours, Hon. C. S. Platt, c/o Federal Reserve Board, Washington, D. C.\ Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives d e c l a s s if ie d Authority E • 0« V23Sfe> SENT TO THE GOVERNOR OF EACH FEDERAL RESERVE BANK. AND MR. CURTISS, FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF BOSTON. '5 S S S B S S E Dm t O o w a a r Koiria: la hara al#*fc&y f«ir**r&a& to yoa a pralialaary draft of tka miatita® of til# w m t i M of the axaoutlra ooaaittaa of tlia 0$*m Markat Policy Confaranaa b#14 I* ttaafclagtoa on Juna 23. As you will ha*a obaarrad fro* t b o M aiABtaa, ft ■fcjeepity of ti* M « b a r a of tha oowadttaa irotad that In thair opinio* it m a ( »»t)<liMiiytlbla ftt that time for th© Jfadaral Raaarra 3yataa to uadartaka aay f&rthar opan aarkat purchaaaa of gcrrarmMit »ecuritiaa. Aa a m s a l t of this aeticm by tha coaaolttaa ao reoo i M a d ation was automittad to the eoafaraaoa aa a vbola, aad ahila tha riaoa of tha aanaittaa w«ra raportad to tha ftdaral Raaarva Boaurfi, ao racoanaadation wets ptat bafora than tor eoasiAaratiaa. Aft I r«port«d at tha aaatiag.of tha oanrtttaa i& Saahiagtofi, our diraetora to tad on Juaa 19, ftftftr tha coaplation of tha puroba*# of tha *50,000,000 prarioualy autltol*i»ad by tha oonf •ranoa, tbftt# la their opinion, furtbar purobaaa* ip am u otmt of afe«Mt 710,000,000 a w*ak ahould ba contiaaad. I paraooally farorad aach perohftaaa during the diwauaaion* in vaaahlmgtoa, and o m diractora, at thair jitetiSf on Jima 86, reiterated thair Tlaaa with reapect to the importance of a aoatimaaaaft of that pro gnat* In faet, they ffclt ao aarseetly tha aaad of ooatimttiag tbaaa pur* ohaaaa of goTenanant securities that tbay hare auggeated that I write to you outlining aovaa of tha reaaaaa i&y the Fadaral Haaarra Bank of New York baa for ao aaay aonthe favored having the federal Reserve Syatom do avary-* thing poftftibla and aitkift its poaar to facilitate & recovery o£ btjsineaft* R e p r o d u c e d fr o m th e U n c l a s s i f i e d / D e c l a s s i fi e d H o l d i n g s o f the N a ti o n a l A r c h i v e s declassified Authority E • 0 • \23St> V Governor m i« JUly l#SO* They do not feel that low dinoaunt rates or further purchases of governne&t securities will of tfeeaaelvec fix coaaodi ty prices or restore busineeB activity. There are fern n m y othar factor* involved in the situa tion to expect that any such credit operations would, or could,,alone ac- ' ooapliah these objectives. They do feel, however, that further purchases of goiferaaeat aec*iritiea la circuiastan&ea such as the present* can d o : ;®0j^ possible hana and will likely acooapllsh some good. Aa they view the situation It is about this: The United steta# amd nost other countries of the world are in the aidst of a aevere business depression. The deoline in bus1ness activity hue been exeat as Judged by alaost every available index. Uaessploynient ie serious. Cossaodity price© hate suffered the moot severe and rapid decline since the poet-war deflation of 1921, and are now about 12 per cent less than a year ago. decline has baas, most pronounced in the last few weeks. The Profit margins are seriously cut* purchasing power has been reduced, and rasny people are facing unemployment and distress. fihile it' is no dsmbt true that this depression is, in part at leaet, the result of cauaes quite unrelated to monetary condition® and clearly outeide the control of the heoerve r.yutem, there are nevertheless aomajaapacta ofj t h e sltuation w l t h respect to which the noaerve System has a direct responsibility# Overproduction of certain basic commodities, both actual and potential, has no doubt played a large part in developing present conditions. On the other hand, it is also true that undercon sumption, dm® to credit restrictions and high rates during 1828 ana 1029, a atoppage of the flow of capital, and an Interruption of economic activity' in many sections of the world, has also been an important factor in the present depression. But whether tue present depression ie due more to R e p r o d u c e d fr o m f h e U n c l a s s i f i e d I D e c l a s s i fi e d H o l d i n g s o f th e N a ti o n a l A r c h i v e s declassif Te d Authority E ■0 • \23 S t $ Governor Norria July 3, 1900. overproduction or aor« to underconsumption, It mini b# agreed that there is a aurplua of jaaiiy baai# ooaEiodltiea awaiting distribution, caBiaodltias which arw wanted and needed ia wway aactiona of tha world which have not th# power This aurplua of unsold goods m sy not, in iseay caaaa* ba to paafehaae tham. great, but unfortunately the mar# exlatanoe of on unsold aurplua hanging o*ar the warkat la a dominant faator in tha courae of tha prioa of any co»aodity. Anything, therefore, that can be don* to atSanlata ecoaoaic activity and thua provide & aarket for that surplus, however great or how ever snail, will ha a steadying influence and a vital factor in the recovery of prices and buainaaa. Our directors hava believad, therefore, that whatever atapa tha itaaarva ayata® operatione, to say taka, whathar through discount rataa f&oilltata a *ore a*tl*# and which capital funds may ha saade available to thoaa parts of atronger for If in strong or oarket through distributed the world whewi puxohaaiag powar la now aarioualy » » Tola ia eepecially tha conditlona aa thay now axiat thare to ba bo substantial riak incident active and market na« enterprise tailed* should 'ha taken jproiaptly and courageously. trae, tkey fa*l, b&ad or op«n to bond aarket will run each a vary omtraa. ©an -ha aald Stimulating little danger of an anconvagliig unnecessary borrowings by those c o n c a m a which already hava surplus pro ducts or ample aapaeity to prodnae. un tha othar hand, auch a oawra# will taaka ava liable neoeaaary capital fto»d» to thoaa l *ho .itow lack capital and will tbna do saaeb to raviv* oomfcl «*0RiQN&ft acttditioaa, restore per* chasing powar and tand to distribute our twappljjui goods into fla Ida whero thoy ara ao urgently needed* During 1928 and 1929 tho diversion of world credit into tha ap8<ml&iiwa nartotta very aavaraly $**%?iatad certain typaa of maw financing R e p r o d u c e d fr o m th e U n c l a s s i f i e d / D e c l a s s i f i e d H o l d i n g s of the N a ti o n a l A r c h i v e s declassified Authority £ •0 •\23Sk .... ..... ’___ Oarer nor Ncrrie throagt the bond aarket. Money beosae difficult to obtain for building operations and other non enterprlaes in many aaifceta, ings in tfcia aarket war© greatly reduoed m M oonsequcaee new redueed. Tuly 3, 1990* Use foreign borrow ffcrei#* buying froo us la in Indaad, current figures relating to our foreign trada indicate a .drop in tha pas* four or ft*** aonthe of m m aa ooapared with laat yeer. 20 par cant Svsn i f we take into account tfe* decline in ccaaodity prions, t&e a*ount of good# being «xpqpi#d £*©» tha Uaitad Stataa to world aarket* la- now a^Aetantially leee than laat year. All tha evidence indiaataa that we have surplus good* to sell n&d that there are- other perta of tha world -that are in need of those goods. To etiiaalate their distribu tion to tha points where needed beeosaa a Matter Of the aoet vital iaportance if the decline in e o m o d i t y prices ia to Ins checked and business la to be restored to normal activity, Ia previous 'bttsiasse 'depraaeiojBa^ recovery baa never taken . place out 11 thara has been a strong bond aarket throu#i Mil oh new enterprise requiring Long tine #spital a n y be fina&oed. So ahile thsre la no ooa- eidersble danand from buaineaa for short tine aoney at the preeent tin*, ^ and ahort tlae aonsy aay be said gs&erally to b e plentiful and cheap in nany sections of the country and other parts of the world, there la never\ theleee % large dssatnd for loag tlaef capital for new undertakings. 1 The ( bond narket haa in the paet sevsrel aonthe been able to absorb a very conaldarable voltwe of these new iaeuea but it la not yet vlgoroua nor la it able to supply oil of the funds which legitimate bmsinsaa* both at hotae and abroad, so a»ch dsaanda* ttd» % p e a r s to our director a to be a situation in which the Re serve Systea haa soae responsibility. Aa indicated In the attached chart, whenever the Federal Reaerve System enberke upon a progrem of purchasing goversasot eecurltlea, tho bond market has beoooe more active and atronger. R e p r o d u c e d fr o m th e U n c l a s s i f i e d / D e c l a s s i fi e d H o l d i n g s o f the N a ti o n a l A r c h i v e s DECLASSIFIED Authority E ■0 • 8- Ootarnor Norris July &* 1930. Whsn the Syetsa buy* securities, tbort time aoney becooes aore plentiful and cheaper. It also becoa»s loss profitable In eonp^rlson with long time money, and it has been dssKmstrated In tbs pest th-t In such circumstances, through a further increase in tbs reserves of asmber banks money will be unde aval labia for tbs bond aarket or shifted to the bond aarket from the short tlas aarket or ftswe other lnvestaents lens profitable than bonds. Furchasee of securities which bate been *ade thus far bate aided in relieving tbe aaeiber benics from tbe pressure of indebtedness at the Reserve Banks and In a aeasure bare provided the Market with surplus funds anal lable far use in tbs bond and mortgage aarket. ' But to a large extent these purchases which bate been node thua far have been offset by declines to rediscounts and in tbe bill portfolios of tbe federal reserve banks so that tbe total of Federal reearve credit has shown a net decline, erven asking elloweaoe for gold Inporta. It bee been our belief, there fore, that purchases of government securities should be continued to the extent neoseaary to keep aoae supply of surplus funds in the money aarket as a stimulus to tbe bond aarket, at least until such time as there aay be seas evidence of a recovery in business. This aay not involve any very large amount of further purchases* fcnt our directors feel thot additional purchases at tbe present time are not only desirable but necsnnnry if the System is to do its utnost for tbe accomodation of businssa and trade. J Even since tb# meeting of tbe ©owaittee on June 23 there baa been a further seasonal tendency for the bill holdings of tbe System to diminish and sobo tendency for discounts to increase* thou«$ this movement waa interrupted by the unusual dsaand for funds incident to the end of tbe aonth and holiday currency requirement a which led to increases of bo'tb bills and discounts ant brought the total of reserve bank credit outstaadiag R e p r o d u c e d fr o m th e U n c l a s s i f i e d I D eclassified H o l d i n g s of the N a ti o n a l A r c h i v e s declassified Authority E ■0•\23Sk Governor Norr to $1,060,000,000. July 3, 1930. Tha avanta of thi* pariod have llluatrated the t x t r e M aaneitivaaaae of the basin at praaant to aay lndabtcdaee t at th* Resarva banka* Even the relatively awall aaMttt of addltioaal borrowing which New Tork City baafc* found aace***ry wa* acooapealed by aft increase of oo« par cent 1ft tha call loan rat*. It la time evident that aa even asaall •aount of borrowing under preaent o end It ion* la aa effective a raetralnt aa eobetantlally a greater t a w l aaa a year ago. eeaeon when tha M U ThI* ia normally a holdings of the Syate* diminish ami wtaaa tha extra demand far ftmde for crop aoviag begina to be felt* ft i», therefore, * tlae whaa there la naad for «e to be particularly alert to avoid lncreaeee of xadlaeowftta, avas apart f)raa a nore general policy of operating positive ly in wttprplying the market with surplaa fund*. So while thara aay ba no d*fialt* aeenrance that opaa aarket ; | operation* In govamnent eeourities will of t b « e elves prooote any isnedl&te recovery, wa cannot foraaaa any appraolable h a m that can result from stich a policy and beliara that tha aariooaaaaa of tha praaant dapraaaIon 1* ^d o greet aa to Jnstify taking every poesible *tap to facilitate laproiamant. Thia lattar ia being written Largely beoaase oar director* f M l that it ia fair to then an* to i&m polioiaa which thay have pxxranad so a a m a a t l y In th# paat eeveral month*, to give you aaa* idaa of tha reaaoa* which hare prompted not only oar rata radaotloaa but oor advocacy of further porchaeee of gofanmaat aacuritiaa. X hope you will plaaaa aaaapt It ia that spirit, and with the imdare tending that our diractora feal keenly the naad for a. continued aid frank; exchange of viawa aaong the Faderal rasarva banka and tha Board, especially at suoh a critical time aw tha praaant. I hopa you will plaaaa f*#l fraa to a bow thia lattar to your offioar# or to R e p r o d u c e d fr o m th e U n c l a s s i f i e d I D e c l a s s i fi e d H o l d i n g s of the N a ti o n a l A r c h i v e s DECLASSIFIED Authority % E • 0 • \23S£? Q m & m t x t Horria your directors and to write us equally frankly what July 3, 1930, way be your own view* is the hop® that «e aay than facilitate a ooraaan approach to our preosnt problen. 1 aa taking tha liberty of sanding a similar lattar to tha governor of eaofc other federal reeerve bank &n£ a oopy to tha federal Reaerre Board* vary truly yours, George I** Harriaon, OoTamor* Mr. George W. florria. Governor, federal Reserve Bank of I’tdlfeMgi&fe* Philadelphia, Pa. c j. 6 ?/ i o r k Department 105 BUYING V/1//1 BUYING, VIA K/////J BUYING BUYING BUYING 7. « BILLIONS OF DOLLARS % 1.< INVESTMENTS 9 5 LW KLY SERIES REP. B K S . R E VISED 3 SELLING l\ S E U J N G l IS E L L IN G SELLING 1919 1920 1921 1922 1923 1924 1925 1926 1927 1928 1929 .2SC Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the N ational A rchives PRICE INDEX ij Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National A rchives of the National Archives 3 3 3' June 24, 1930. IHMfr Dootor Miller: Mr. Hoell hat advl*ed im of your deeira to be kept informed of any major development* 1» Syatea Credit Policy during your absence, and accordingly I aa writing to review events which lad up to tha reduction la tha la* Tork rata on laat Thureday. At thalr aaetlng on June 6 tha la * Tork director*, at floTamor It to t&e Board* reviewed condition a, and whlla thay fait that thara «&• not aooh thay could do directly to create more activity i » M i n a • a, nevertheless, thay fa ll that *lth tha world dapraaaloai l&ifctt*4»*§a# cowaodlty prloaa aad export trade, and with »o definite evidence, that condition* ara battar, the Syatea ahould do *hat***r I t could to. remove any pcnalbla obataclat to recovery, and more dlractly through the eaort time money to influence and build a bond market through which the directora think raoovery aaat ultimately be expected. It waa their feeling than, Governor Harrtao® tinted# that the *•* tork rata *hould aoca go 8 1/2 par oant. Governor Harrison informed the Board that hl» directora a g a i n raieed the question on June 13 and would have voted unanimously for a reduction had ha recommended it, but that h# urged them to put it off a week a* it would be better to wait until the affect of tha purchaaa of fifty million of Government •ecuritlea could be obeerved and the Treasury quarterly financing *a* over, and tha reparation* loan was out of the way. Harrlaou ai^lalmad In oonneotion with the vota to reduce tke rate on June 20, Governor Harrlaoft eta ted that li|* director* -had-no undue ei^cctation* aa to what a red»c||c»;would accompli *&» la etated tkat that? policy had not baan predicated upca.Ike thought 'that' anything the Syetem oould do would of Iteelf etop the decline or that It oould In any direct **y prtca# battar or imaur* grafter bualne** activity, but they ***** deelred to do »hat ia within the power of t&e bank to remove any po**lble obst&ole* or to facilitate reoovery whan the time comtt for business to pick up. Some of t&e <llf#oior# -pointed out* he etated, that while figure*, a* do sot *how any Improvement, tha fact m a t be taken Into account that they would «how an even greater da* cllne If It were not for activity ia public utllltle*, railroad* and aamloipalltlea, which have proceeded fairly actively aa a reeult of bual#### Doctor M ille r ....... 2 6-24-30 the administration’s program of last winter. Ur. Owen D. Toting has pointed out, however, that if price* continue to decline and other line* of business and industry do not give their *upport, the utllitie*, railroad* and municipalities cannot be expected to continue their construction and equipment program*, and the time will come when they themselves must slow up. Governor Harrison alao reported that he believe* on the whole the director* of the New York Bank feel that there i* not much hope of veal improvement for *everal month*, and some of them feel improvement will not be marked before next year. They are particular ly concerned about the export trade and feel that a revival of our forelga Markets depend largely upon a bond market, aad tiw of a goxi aod strong bond mallet rest upon a continued ease ia the , short time money market more than anything else* One other statement which Governor larriaon iaade to the Board was that in hi* opinion,when tne demand for credit does coiae th*#5ystera will have to be prepared to consider when and how rapidly it will Increase rate*, because In his Julgiaent, a 2 l/2 per cent rate is a recognition of a *eriou# depression, and in his present Judgment, should not be long maintained in the face of any really substantial demand for bask credit whether from increased business activity or other causes. then you left the effective buying rate of the New York Bank on However, the good demand has resulted in a steady reduction in dealers1 rates which has been followed by the $e* York Bank until they are now down to their minimum rate of 2 per cent on 90 day bills. A request for a further reductio in the minimum to 1 3/4 per cent was made when the discount rate was reduce* last Thursday, but this has not yet been acted upon by the bills was 2 1/4 per cent up to 90 day*. Board* You will recall when the purchase of 50 million of Government securities was authorized several weeks ago it was agreed that after tne purchase and been made conditions should be reviewed. Accordingly tne Executive Oomalttee of the Open Market Policy Conference met here yesterday. Governor tarrison reported hi s opinion, which is concurred in unanimously by the officers and directors of the New York Bank, that purchases of Governments not to exceed 25 million a week should be made for the next couple of week*. In fact, lest Thursday his directors unanimously voted that 25 million a week should be purchased for the next two week*. The reasons for the Hew York po sit ion are substantially the same as those recited above in support of the dis count rate reduction. He stated that it is the theory of the officer and directors of the New York Bank that a good part of the difficulty at tne present time is the lack of purchasing power in various parts of the world which are not in a position to take up surplus commoditle 6- 24- 30 . S r. t f i l l t r ........3 fro* tht marktts and tat only way, thrcugn a monetary operation* that it would be possible to rtvivt buying power is through the export of long tint capital to those parts of the world where purchasing poorer hat been curtailed, the approach btlng to the bond market. He stated that pur«iba*e» of Governments could do m h a m at there is no danger at the moment of speculative revival, and that Having a historical record that purchase* of Govematnts havt always been helpful to tha bond saarktt, It Is ftIt In New tork that tney should be nade. Howevtr, tne other four ambers of the Executive Coinralttee « M-tttrs. Paddock, Norris, F&ncher and McDoug&l did not feel tnat any further purcnf-sts should bt made unler existing e- sy condition*!. They stressed the fact that txctpt for tteady borrowers their member banks are not in debt, but on the contrary art having difficulty In employing their funds, sad the vote was four to one that no reconraendation should bt made to the Conference. I btlltve tbi» cover* the field In which you are interested pretty wall. While a fair voluae of routine business la continulng, I do not believe tuert ha* been anything worth raentioning other than the fact that Cleveland hat been here with tentative plan* and estimates an the Pittsburgh building and has been authorised to a&t®&« The legislative situation has been quite interesting with Congrest yesterday e n a b lin g the vtttrans* bill in the f a c t of the warnings by F rt s ld tn * Hoover and Secretary Mellon that such .a c tio n till probably nectssltatt aa inor ease in taxes. I suppose, however, that you get fairly prosapt ta d cooplete ntws o f such developments. ^ 1 hope very m m k that you had a pleasant voyage and that you art no* enjoying tht Italian cllaate, althou^i I do not see how the tan could bt much brighter or the sky bluer tnan they art here today. Tours sincerely. £* M. McClelland, Assistant Secretary. Son. A. C. Millar, Cart §u&ranty> Trust Company, 4 PIact dt la Concorde, Peris, ?ranct. Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives Jporm N o . 131. 4 Orrice Correspondence T o --------------M r . P U t t ---------------------------- ---------- FEDERAL RESERVE BO AR D '3 3 ; i ■ 'C 'i Date Jun» 21, I9SO Subject:. From--------- lh v J*oCl « l I « nd---------------------------- -------------------------- 2— 8496 OF O There are affieahed haryfoft jaaplaa of the letter addressed to Governor Toung fey (lovernoi Calkin*, summarising the reasons for the San Francisco Batik not participating ia the resent System purehase of Government securities* It was understood at the meet lag yesterday that you would present Governor Calkins1 letter to the 2xeoutive Coan&ttee of the Open Market Poliey Conference wtiloh meets here Monday* Fe d e r a l R e s e r v e o f Ba n k N e w Yo r k June 17, 1930 Dear Mr* McClelland ,,-- s ^Qr yOUP courtesy in sending randum of notes which you took at the meeting with the Federal Reserve Board yes terday morning. I have taken advantage of your suggestion to make some changes which I think more nearly represent what was in the back of my mind* I hope that it will be agreeable to you to incor f porate them in your notes. Very truly yours, Governor Mr. E. M. McClelland, Assistant Secretary, Federal Reserve Board, Washington, D. C. Enc. Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives y 3 ................ Fe d eral R eserve Ba n k of S a n Fr a n c i s c o June 16, 1930 Mr. Eoy A. Young, Governor, Federal Reserve Board, Washington, D. C. My dear Governor Xoung: j C Recalling somewhat late a remark you made to the effect that when a bank disapproves of the recommendations of the Open Market Policy Conference it might properly advise the Board as to the reasons for its disapproval, I think I may briefly summarize our reasons for not participating in the $50,000,000 Governments recently purchased as follows: &• With credit cheap and redundant we do not believe that business recovery will be accelerated by making credit cheaper and more redundant. b. We find no reason to believe that excessively cheap money will promote or create a bond market, seeing evidence in the recent past to the contrary, and, further, do not consider the promotion or creation of a bond market one of the functions of the Federal Reserve System. We believe that there may come an opportune moment to put money into the market when that action will have a beneficial effect and feel that if, at such a time, our open market portfolio of Governments is excessive there may be hesitation to increase it. There is much more that might be argued, but I have endeavored to summarize briefly* 3 - ~ c ~( Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives J\mm 16, v m Pmt i n n w r SftrriftMi will ym p&mm. £#£& mm tho •noloaad «f mfom tefcm at tlw thi* Rwsmitig and m of *xty fm m&X£ l & m t<* h*v» m & m in.it tHsf****#' it i# xm#$> in th* s&xutttft $£ tltm dm$4* your#, 8* M# &*#!*$&*£ $ # § ^ * 1*7 Hr. 0*©# l * awprii^t o^«r%»ar« IWaraJ JSinfcj Mm f w n B £» Y. (nfeoloaur#) ^&j2£ <3/h/0 t f n ( % o Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives Governor Harrison stated that at his directors meeting two weeks ago, they reviewed business conditions in their relation to credit conditions, and while they felt there was notmuch they could do directly to create more activity in business, nevertheless, they felt that with the world depression in business, commodity prices and export trade, and with no definite evidence that conditions are better, the Sys tem should do whatever it can to remove any possible obstacles to recovery, and, more directly through the short-time money market, to influence and build up a bond mar ket through which the directors think recovery must ultimately be expected* It was the feeling, he stated, that the New York Bank rate should soon go to 2-1/2$* He stated that his directors again raised the question last Thursday and would have voted unanimously for a reduction had he recommended it, but that he urged them to put it off a week as it would be better to wait until the effect of the pur chase of fifty million of Government securities could be observed and the Treasury quarterly financing is over and the reparations loan out of the way* While he was unable to commit his directors in advance, Governor Harrison stated that in view of the discussion at the meeting last Thursday, unless there is some substantial change in the meantime, he is of the opinion they will vote unani mously at their next meeting for a reduction in the rate to 2-1/2$. In Governor Har rison9s opinion, his directors have no undue expectations as to what a reduction in the rate will do# Their policy has not been predicated on the thought that anything the System could do would of itself stop the decline or that it could in any direct way make prices better or insure greater business activity, but they have desired to do what is within the power of the Bank to remove any possible obstacles or to faci litate the recovery when the time comes for business to pick up* Some of the directors pointed out, he stated, that while business figures as a whole do not show any improvement, the fact must be taken into account that they would show an even greater decline if it were not for activity in public utilities, Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives railroads and municipalities, which have proceeded fairly actively as a result of the Administrat ion program of last winter* Mr* Young has pointed out, however, that if prices continue to decline and if other lines of business and industry do not give their support,.the utilities, railroads and municipalities cannot be expected to con tinue their construction and equipment programs ana the time will come when they,thenfcselves, in A stated that he believes on the whole, the feeling of the directors of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York is that there isn’t m c h hope of real improve ment for several months, and some of them feel .improvement may not be marked before next year. They are particularly concerned about the export trade which has such a direct effect upon commodity prices and feel that a revival of our foreign markets de pends largely upon the bond market, and that hopes of getting a strong bond market rest upon a continued ease in the short-time money market more than anything else* In response to the Ohairruan’s question as to what effect the proposed re duction would have on the Bank of England, Governor Harrison said he had not yet com municated with the bank, but his feeling is that if the Federal Reserve Bank of New York should reduce its rate on Thursday, the Bank of England would probably go down the next week* Mr* Hamlin explained to Governor Harrison that there will probably not be a quorum of the Board present on Thursday and inquired whether amy action that the Board might take now authorising approval of a reduction in the New York rate, if vot ed by the directors on Thursday, might be construed as initiation by the Board of the reduction in rate. Governor Harrison replied that he thought not, since he had come to Washington to advise the Board that as he sees it now, he will recommend the reduction next Thursday, and, on the basis of the discussion last week, he has every reason to believe that his directors will unanimously approve of it* Any action by the Board now would therefore be simply in expectation of the bank’s possible action A next Thursday. Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives -3Governor Harrison also stated that, in his opinion, when the demand for credit does qoebs, the System will have to be prepared to consider when and how rapid ly it will increase rates, because in his judgment, a 2-1/2$ rate is a recognition of a serious depression and in his present judgment should not be long maintained in the face of any really substantial demand for bank credit whether from increased busi ness activity or other causes* Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives Governor Harrison, stated that at his directors meeting two weeks ago, they reviewed business conditions in their relation to credit conditions, and while they felt there was not much that they could do directly to create more activity in business, nevertheless, they felt that with the world depression in business, con*modity prices and export trade, and- with jio definite evidence that conditions are bet ter the System should do whatever it can to remove any possible obstacles to recovery, and, more directly through the short time money market, to influence and build up a bond market through which the directors think recovermanst ultimately be expected* /14SHew York Bank, should soon go to 2-l/2$* It was the feeling, he stated, that the He stated that his directors again raised the question last Thursday and would have voted unanimously for a reduction had he recommended it, but that he urged them to put it off a week as it would be better to wait until the effect of the pur chase of fifty million of Government securities could be observed* and the Treasury quarterly financing is over and the reparations loan out of the way* CfvjLuCa W adA'(u-,' u-> While he was unable to speate**^ his directorsJ Governor Harrison stated that in view of the discussion at the meeting of his directors last Thursday, unless there is some substantial change in the meantime, he is of the opinion they will vote unanimously at their next meeting for a reduction in the rate to 2-1/2$♦ In Governor Harrisonrs opinion, his directors have no expectations as to whet a * reduction in the rate will do* Their policy has not been predicated on the thought d m m Aa ami df’ti'rjveinJ) that anything the System could do wofldjStSp the decline, or that it ^ild.make^^Tces better or ^«en^to do what is within the power of the (L ju m u tv t ^ ^ _ ____ SpaiM* to (facilitate m e recovery when the time comes for business to pick up /aul new' of the directors pointed out, he stated, that whileafliM* business aoo ufuUt. m am figures.stSCl nine 11 ilillH rnm. TTTTT riiTilf nilmi Tin taken into account that they would show ^ ($tt H A / k Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives greater deelinp i f i t were not fo r activity in publip u tilitie s , railroads ant ntnie ip a litiis * JfcVj *sm * OP'Riuupu proooedeT'tairly Mr* Young has poinl w t , however, that i f prices continue to decline and i f other linos o f business aad in* dustry do not give J$&ir support thejiJbiXities, railroads andjaunicipalities cannot • « « # 2**t4fr<¥t*uT>i*4uiu5^ be expected to eontiime"3BPMBB8Bto/^n^ mo tib# wild come whon thJ^asisTslow upf __________________________________________ ~ themselves^ y Ho stated that he believes on the whole, the feeling of the directors o f Aid. the federal Beserve Bank of Hew York Is that there isn*t laieh hope o^improvement \m * £ %4AA*Odl M^aCZLs h»A^lr*1tew«Au-r hf*** ^ s n ^ H i ^ W ^ piwii» *■ >i lh> ysaw, and sons ©5 them fe e l M q ftiM *r next YtoXbOAhAif WAV* They are^ooncejniedr -m , ^n SpB O E V ^and fe e l that ^revival o f oar foreign markets dependa^pen the bond market, and that hopes of getting a strong bond market rest upon a continued ease in the short time money market more than anything else* In response to the Chairman's question as to what effect the proposed T** reduction would have on the Bank o f England, Governor Harrison said he had not^eos** / A /G sonicated with the bank, but his fe e l is that i f the Federal Beserve Bank of How York should reduce its rate on Thursday, the Bank of England would probably go down the aext week* He ■•■lit tin 1i«< +w ***** •»>»«►*«>> tt»«t Tin hn11«Tii tin finmfr irf n *»v nf—rTfT,a Tti^li^— twt Wj>~ T***- ^nnVi__ Hr* Hamits explained to Governor Harrison that there w ill probably not be a quorum o f the Board present on fborsday and inquired whether any action that the Board might take now authorizing approval o f a reduction in the New York rate, i f vot ed by the directors on muradayfepafed be construed as M a i t i g a by the Board o& the .reduction in re&e* ^Governor Harrison replied thatx y f sijf■ss up ■lnili uullen m A cmi'-n) m*r .. _ % —^rf ‘I ........ rnr" lly *w that as he sees it now, he w ill lad the reduction. and, the basis of the discussion last week, he haa n every reason *o believe that his directors 1^.11 umniiaousl y /W . export trade 4Mn» G h C ti^ tdbu)Mht^fSmufeu /fa. smM k Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives Governor,Hamriaon %lao stated thatj^rtien 4fea demand for credit does cane 'foe Syat«tt when and how rapidly It will increase ra1 iiLhis judgment, a rate is a recognition depress ion and^ahoild not £2L italnsd. in the face of fa-. 4 u U . (M U f 01 P W a & U M J b fift y . m c w m # /f «M U A h <u& t Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives Z- X ' /Q M ^ — <s ^iii.ii^ / o i" . tp i a ■— z#"^ A th d ° *) V £?/ ✓ v o i* #/ i /C- y9 1 S ' s~-> X/*' ** -z— r to _> ? ? » *r* J <*j> / * SX-. J *< ^ '■*'" J Cr / x «v ^ * <"■*— r ** ■""'^ s* '~~*> ^ j ~~ **> j/jf' '~yr *~ ^ jj^ / * ^ 4 . of Y j £r X ( *V * - » ^ J~~s^ ?' 6 JL~- fi ^ /O — b 0 ■/* / h V iP ® © y P n ~V ♦> r 4 S*) o c-* i-' ' % ~t-r t /* b* eX^ ■) s ' Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives (/ J X /I f*) tf~) / A A * /* j S - 7 i / ( t s s * r > - j * 9 /* A >S ^ s * s f\ y A S* { / J ^ / / " / * S * U C ^Q if A #» , > r> /- . j r J ^ t/ ? ‘ y ^ 7 P y J**> S / i J ? — <-r *• ^ >»/■ v_^ j-s <- £ JL ^ ff) u> ^ / _ y ^ ^ /^ I /V ^ v1 / <= 0 t-t-. j q J <7 ^ e -S i S ~ S * J* ~ *s d r. *> — 9 £f | \j J ^ — _/<* - 'V ^ <— ^ 7 *^ ^ /? 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L— It J ^ Cy * S & tt ~B / v ^ J*' ^ ; ty — Z ^ \ ~ 7 ^ 1 & y i/J ^ -7( ^ v /i *t ✓ ' v / * — s^7 <* ^ f 't Z' <0 I £ I f' c 6*0. \ f y t />;' - y ^ / ^ * '/ * * ( ? % A 3 f r J J ' 'P y 3 '''2-^ / f ----<— * — -r' Y t y~t «-*» s ,— a ^ £ ^ *— i_^. s' o^r ‘ Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives Jwm 3, 1950 Dear Governor Barriaoni Governor Young him directed ate to aubait to you for verification the following report which he raade at the meeting of the Board today after presentation of your teiograa regarding the purchase of Government ee* curitlea hy the $ycteait *fhe Governor stated that Governor Harr laon advised him that of the iteooutive Committee of the Open Market foliar ConferFederal Keaerve Banlcs of Boston, Now York and Cleveland approve tho reoon** mendation contained In the above telegram, while Philadelphia and Chtoago disapprove*._— Of th© twelve bank*, ho stated*(Bo^ii, No t York, Cleveland, Rlohwond, Atls.rtfca, Minnea polis and Santas Oity approve, Philadelphia, ^Chicago, Dallas and San Franolsoo disapprove, eielpliia mad ggr rranoliuq f W T 1" th>t ■nao flaTtm— Kfal wight b»-j»mah«ae+^afr«ir,;) and thexFederal Reserve Bank of St# Louis Interpoaoa no objection, (although teilned in — J , f , p p<AXf M C U M ^ ^ *> f 1 Very truly yourat ;)&*• i W * ' ft Uif I. H* BoOUlUnd, Assistant Seoretary 16% George U Harrison, Governor, Federal Reserve Bank, m m York, IT* Y* A ? H - O u yk%y^luhi£ St Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives J \\ jvtuo s # i m Dear Governor Burrlsont This mill oonfim ay telephone oonveraatlon with you today rogordiag oonaldoration given by tho Board to the reoaatt&adatlon of ft majority of th® Sfcoouti/o OQMFilttoe of tho Opoa flfcriwt Policy Conference and a aajortty of tho O o i m m o m of mil Fodom&l l l o e o r v o BruJoi fen* tho irorohaso Of HOt tO oxoood *25*000*000 & week of Geroraaosifc itourltiw for tho next two m aoka* with tho undorataTidlng that at tho o»d of that tSao tho situation will again bo reviewed* Aa I ftdrlood yot% tho proooduro reooaawniod was aBcrenrod tho Board* fory truly youra* &• JU Young* Governor l&r* George L* Bwrlaon, Oovoraar* Fodoral loaonro Bank, Sew York* H* Y. Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives ""ELEGRAM --s — *f — \ - 5 ^ FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM (L E A S E D W I R E S E R V IC E ) R E C E IV E D A T W A S H I N G T O N , D . C . y - '3 - 3 o 115bfc ■^oird Hew Tork. M Washn June 5 41 Sim Regarding telephone conversations with reference to purchasing Governments, a majority of executive oomnittee of open maricet policy conference and a majority of all members of conference favor purchase of not to exceed §25,000,000 a week for the next two weeks with the understanding that the matter will be again reviewed at that time, Federal Reserve Board was this morning advised in detail of sentiment of executive committee and conference as well as opinions of individual members* Have just been advised by Federal Beserve Board that it approves of recommendations of majority of conference. 2—11901 V S. GOYEBNMBKT NUNTONI MWICS: 10M Harrison 323pm Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives i -ELEGRAM — — — FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM 3 3 (L E A S E D W I R E S E R V IC E ) 5 2 b fa R E C E IV E D A T W A S H I N G T O N , D . C . ITQwYOtft m Governor Roy H 1235p June 3 _ ^ A Young Washn H fhis telegram is to oonfiim telephone conversations of thursday yesterday and to-day, Our directors , while approving unanimously the report^ ^ 2 * 3 ?/ the open market policy oonferenoe of its meeting of May 21 and 22 after a thorough discussion voted on May 29 that in their opinion it now seems desirable for the system to undertake the purchase of Government securities in moderate amounts, in reaching this conclusion our directors had before them evidence that the current business depression was continuing without any important indication of improvement . It was their belief that the hope of greater business aotivity and increased purchasing power for our surplus products depends at least to some extent upon the finanoing of new undertakings both at home and abroad through the bond market, while the directors appreciate that it is impossible to foreoast accurately the » . S. eOTEBXMVir* VUXTDM vm n : » M %--- 11001 S Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives E L E G R A M FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM (L E A S E D W I R E S E R V IC E ) / R E C E IV E D A T W A S H I N G T O N , D . C . extent of the effect of the proposed purchases , nevertheless they feel that the money position is so delicately balanced that even a slight addition to the available reserve funds mi^it prove helpful both fron the poifat of view of its direct influenae on the bond market and in the psychological benefit which might also arise. In any event it seems clear thnt small purchases of Government securities at this time could do no h a m and a test with the hope that they might be of some benefit seems desirable. Since the meeting of our directors on thursday we have discussed the question of purchases of Government securities with the members of the executive committee of the open market policy conference and with the Governors of all other j? R Banks. A majority of the executive aormiittee and a majority of the Governors of all reserve banks are now in favor of purchasing not to exceed 25 million dollars a week of Government securities for the next two weeks with the understanding that at the end of that tine ft. ftOVBBNMSNT PUXTEN* M T 1 M : I M 2 ------119111 Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives ‘ELEGRAM FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM (L E A S E D W I R E S E R V IC E ) R E C E IV E D A T W A S H I N G T O N , D . C . the situation would again be reviewed. We should appreoiate the action of the Board upon thia proposal of P majority of the conference. ^ http://fraser.stlouisfed.org/ 8. fiOTBBMMSMT rmiNTIXa M TIIOI: 10M Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Harrison 1158am A.T B O k u O W iBISTUMO, J U N i- 1930 2—11001 Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives Fe d e r a l R e s e r v e B a n k of Ne w Y o r k Dear Mr. McClelland: I am returning herewith some papers which Governor Harrison borrowed when he was in Washington. Very truly yours, mdolph Burgess Mr, M* McClelland, Assistant Secretary, Federal Reserve Board, Washington, D# C# w?J3 .H end. / I c-l mi Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives DECLASSIFIED Authority E-0•\23%> 33 3,3 COHJTDENTIAL f he Conference has considered a prelJaiafcry memrandum reviewing , domestic business and credit condition* and has discussed at length the present trends in world trade, commerce and commodity prices* Particular consideration was given to the rapidly declining volume of our export trade and it* probable relation to the decline in commodity prices in this country* It appears to the Conference that conditions in business, agrl~ culture and trade are still seriously depressed* not only in this country but evidently throughout the rest of the world as well* It is the sense of the Conference that these conditions merit continuous carseful observa tion by the Federal Reserve System in order that the System will be pre pared to aot promptly in the event that conditions further develop in such a way as to make action seem advisable* . In the present circumstances, however, it does not appear to the Conference that any affirmative recommendation as to Open Ifcrket operations is advisable just now. But it is the sense of the Conference that if the situation so develops as to retire an Open Mfcrket operation by the System the members of the Conference will fee prepared to reconvene or else, if a meeting of the whole Conference is not practicable, to act proi$>tly on recommendations of its Sreeutive Committee, Huy U 9 1930* AT B O A R D MEETING. JUN 2 ” 1930 AT ROA ! > M P'.fP*'*'! {•*>•• MAY 2 2 1930 Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Aichives d e c l a s s if i e d Authority Fe d eral Re E•0•\23Sk se r v e Ban k of P h il a d e l ph ia Dear Governor Toung About a month ago you wrote to Governor Norris to ascertain his views with reference to having a meeting of the Open Market Conference Committee, suggesting that the relations of the Federal Reserve System to current trends should be reviewed with a view of determining whether the System’s position should be read justed, etc., and remarking at the close of that letter that an ex pression of the views of any bank not participating in the meeting of such a conference, if it occurred, would be appreciated, notwithstanding that that conference was not held, I am taking the liberty of expressing some views as to the discount policy which I have submitted to our board recently in connection with sug gested reduction of our discount rate* With the abundance of money at this time and low rates of interest, one feels the System justly can be blamed for being in a wrong technical position* Of #958,000,000. of Federal reserve credit in use, only $237,000,000. were issued for re discounts, and #703,000,000* for the purchase of bankers bills and Government securities. The latter represents money voluntarily put in the market by the Federal reserve banks. We are in a remarkably good strategic position, but technically our holdings of Government securit ies and bankers bills are unjustifiably large. „ M «,„» ,0, With so reduced a de- ' „ serve credit in use through voluntary operations? of Federal . . o „ t or * To reduce the amount reserve credit in voluntary use by selling, say #200,000,000. Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives d e c l a s s if i e d E■0•\23%> Authority € ! I / v 5 / F e d e r a l Re s e r v e B a n k o f P h i l a d e l p h i a / Pa g e To of Government securities, as we have heard suggested, porobably would force the member hanks to borrow from the System, the position of the System would be better technically if it showed, say $450,000,000. of rediscounts, and #500,000,000. of bankers bills and securities, but to make the shift with our present rates of discount would increase the cost of credit to the business community. make them feel that our policy had been changed. This would tend to If the larger number of member banks, however, could get their money at 3 or there could be no objection to this shift on account of the cost. Would it sot.be an exercise of good judgment, and advisable, for several Federal reserve banks, say Cleveland, Philadelphia, St. Louis, Minneapolis and San Francisco, to reduce their rate to it would.be grand to have Chicago put its rate down to then have the Open Market Committee sell at least #200,000,000. of Government securitiee. One feels that if this resulted in changing $200,000,000. of the System’s investments from Government securities and bankers bills to bills rediscounted, its position would be bettered, it would be con forming with tradition, that when the member banks were in debt to the System the System was in closer contact with member bank operations, * and it might have a tendency to prevent member banks putting their funds into investment securities, evidence of which we see. I am presenting this as a matter of national or System-wider discount policy, not at all as a local question for the guidance of asy bank, believing it to be In harmony with the Idea of readjusting the System’s position as referred to in your letter. Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives May 12, 1930. Dear Mr. Worthington: fhis will acknowledge receipt of your letter of Hay 6th. from ^lch I observe that your earning* at thepreaent time areno tluf ficlent to off-set your expenses and that you hare a*de a request of Governor Harrison to he allotted a larger participation in the open aarlwt holding# of the Syeteou I have talked with Governor Harrison over % e telephone and I feel quite tore that he will he glad to let yon have a larger proportion* X observe also that your hank would like to porchaee certifi cate® of indebtedness ia y e w own district, hut hesitate about doing so if you feel that such action would he in conflict with the open Mar ket policy agreement. The amount you mention is insignificant and really would only increase your earnings $1,300 a aonth, aad if that is all there is to the problemt I don*t believe the Board would concern Itself about the ao*ter. nevertheless 9 there are other reserve haulr* that are rtuanlng behind in their earnings aad Just at the moment the Syetem as a w h o l e %n not earning its expenses and dividends. If you wish to acquire sufficient short-time Government cer tificates to enable you to meet your dividends and expenses at the present tirae, it would msan the purchase of approximately $25,000,000, aad if other reserve banks took stellar action, you can readily see *hat it would involve a real opea maifeet operation and instead of in creasing the earnings of the Systea, it would obviously decrease the earnings; ia fkot, if fedexal Heserve policies are to be put on an earning basis. It would be more desirable to sell Government securities than to buy, because such action would increase the earnings of the Syetea. fhe federal Reserve Bank of Sew Yoxfc, however, has no keen concern about their earnings aad X an quite sure that they will allot sufficient to you to aake a better lowing, ttoder these circumstances, I believe it would be better if you would refrain from buying for your oen account at this time until the System determines whether or not they mrnt to ease further by the purchase of Government securities or tighten by the sale of Government securities. Yours very truly, Mr. C. A. Worthington, Sep. Gov., Tederal Beserve Bank, Kansas City, Missouri* raor. Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives Fe d e r a l R e s e r v e Ba n k M .L .M 9 C L U R E CHAIRMAN BO m' - i . O' w ■-< . G*r O r. AN D FEDERAL RESERVE AGENT W . J . B A I L E Y , Go v e r n o r O F C .A .W O R T H IN G T O N , De pu ty Go v e r n o r J . W . H E L M , Ca s h ie r JO H N P H I L L I P S , J r .,A s s t .C a s h ie r E . P . T Y N E R , A s s t .C a s h ie r G . E . Ka n s a s C i t y W ^ .L .P E TR IK IN DEPUTY CHAIRMAN BOARD OF DIRECTORS B A R L E Y , A s s t .C a s h ie r A .M . M 9ADAM S M . W . E . P A R K , ASST.CASHIER ASST. FEDERAL RESERVE AG E N AND SECRETARY G . H . P I P K I N , A s s t .C a s h ie r N . R .O B E R W O R T M A N N , As s t .C a s h ie r May 8, 1930, / , Honorable Roy A. Young, Governor,Federal Reserve Board, Washington, D.C. vs.* Dear Governor Young: W You may have observed from reports of this bank that our expenses, dividends, and usual depreciation allowances, et cetera, for the first four months of this year were more than 1200,000 in excess of our earnings. It is estimated that on the basis of earning assets held April 30 our expenses, et cetera, for the year will exceed earnings by approximately $755,000. We have written to Governor Harrison, as Chairman of the Open Market Policy Conference, reciting these facts and suggesting that, i f possible, we would like to be granted a larger allotment of open market purchasea, or to purchase a portion of the holdings ivf-fttty~retrrr5TrT?ftflarw1 reserve bank that might be in a position to sell. Our directors in a meeting today have also suggested that we purchase any and all Treasury Certificates of Indebtedness that may be offered locally by member banks and others (not dealers.) I am writing to obtain your suggestions on this subject and also to ask whether the purchase of Treasury Certificates of Indebtedness might be considered as in conflict with the open market policy. The amount in volved would probably be small and the total of such offerings would prob ably not exceed an average of $500,000 per month. I am, therefore, of the opinion that this would not conflict with our open market policy agreement, and i f it does not, we would like to make the plan effective immediately. We do not mind our earnings running slightly behind our expenses but to end the year as far behind as the present estimate indicates would undoubtedly subject us to considerable criticism from member bankers and others. Assuring you of ray appreciation of any comments you may care to make, I am Yery truly yours. Deputy Governor, CAW:L Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives < June 3, 1930* !Che Federal Reserve Board having -under consideration the recommendation of the . requesting ^j ^ j %0 the executive coninittee of the Open Market Policy Conference "be authorized to purchase °- short time Government Securities, to which request the federal Reserve Banks of Chicago, Boston, Cleveland, Atlanta, and Minneapolis, have given their approval; and , ^ Whereas, a discount rate of 3$ m s established at the federal Reserve Bank of Hew York on May 2nd; and Ihereas, a discount rate of 3|$ was established at the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston on May 8th; and Ihereas, the effective discount rate at the Cleveland, Aa*/* 1 _ Atlanta* aafr Minneapolis Federal Reserve Banks is 4^; ■ A « TEEHEFOEE B1 IT KSSQIVS3) Shat the Federal Reserve Board, after doe consideration of the credit situation, respectfully request the Boardjof Directors of the Chicago, Cleveland, Atlanta, aed Minneapolis^Tederal Reserve Banks, at their convenience, to give the Federal Reserve Board the reasons that prompted their approval of further easing of the credit policy through open market operations on the part of the System while their are retailing $ discount rate well above the discount rate in effect at tfefe Federal reserve hanks in the system; and, how, in their opinion, such a policy can he construed as being in harmony with the intent and purpose of sub-paragraph (d) of Section 14 of the Federal Reserve Act; // * . /) AT BOA&f* MIstfTONa J U N 1 -1 9 3 0 wf /0 ' / ^ Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED That further consideration of the pending request from the Open Market^ Conference ii— ittm of the System he deferred until replies have "been received from the above mentioned hanks. Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives F o rm . N o . 131 / / FEDERAL RESERVE O f f i c e C o r r e s p o i K * e i ,e B0ARD iw i. iflTO To___ All Members of the Board____ Subject: From Mr* McClelland____________ _______________________ ______ _________w ^ •»o By direction of the Governor, there is attached hereto letter dated April from Governor TalleyJ commenting upon the credit sTSation and expressing the opinion that an early meeting of the Open Market Policy Conference is not a matter of great importance: / ''Governor Young Mr. PlattV _ Mr. Hamlin Mr* James Mr* Cunningham Dr. Miller, Mr. Pole Please circulate promptly and return to this office. Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives C O P T April 501 1930. Dear Mr. Sproul: Receipt is acknowledged of vour letter of April 24th. confirming telaphone advice of the action of the hoard of directors of your bank in voting to eatabllA a rediscount rate of 5$, which action was not approved by the Federal Reserve Board. From your letter, the Board has noted that your directors on that date made no change In your bank#s existing schedule of buying rates. With regard to your letter of March 20th* advising of the action of the board of directors of your bank in voting to request the Federal Beserve Board to reduce to 2 1/2$ the rate established by it as the minimum buying rate; for the purchase of bankers accept anees by your bonk, which action Governor Harrison informed Governor Toung was reviewed by your directors at their meeting on April 24th, you are advised that the Board today kept under review the request for the establiatummt of a minimum buying rate of 2 1/2$ and determined the minimum buying rate of your bank to be 2 3/4#. Very truly yours9 (Signed) B. M. McClelland 1. M. McClelland, Assistant Secretary Mr. Allan Sproul, Secretary Federal Reserve Bank, Hew Tork, N. T. Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives .\ A. r • \ Sl % # 'P)£l ~ W A / ■'s. / v> Dear Governor Young: At the meeting of our directors last Thursday, recent developments in credit and business conditions were reviewed at some length in their relation to the rate and credit policies of this bank. It may interest you to have the following brief summary of the principal factors in the situation which were considered: (a) Wholesale commodity prices continue to de- cline so that the last available weekly index indicates a level lower than at any time since the United States enter ed the war in 1917. (b) March figures for trade and^production show considerable declines from February and on the whole were lower than at any time during the current movement. (c) Such figures as are available for April show that building contract awards continue to run substantially below last year. On the other hand, car loadings of mer chandise show some increase in the first two weeks of April, though this may possibly be due to the late Easter trade. Gar loadings of heavy freight show about the usual seasonal decline. (d) Current quarterly reports of many industrial corporations show large declines in volume and profits from a year ago. Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives F E D E R A L R E SE R V E B A N K O F N E W YC (e) of 1 9 3 0 ____ * ________ G O V e T O O r Y O U n g i / ^ r i l 2 8 , 1 9 3 0 . Our export trade for the first three months shows a decline of about #280,000,000 from the same period of 1 9 2 9 - a net decline of slightly over 20 per_CB&t. Imports have declined about the same percentage. (f) The bond market has shown some weakness the past two weeks with a slight decline in prices and some backing up of new issues. We have felt that the financing of new enterprises and the restoration of purchasing power for commodities whose prices are still declining, depends in part at least upon the strength and activity of the bond market and that the revival of foreign purchasing power for our exportable surplus is largely dependant upon new capital acquired through the bond markets of the world, including the American bond market. (g)Gold continues to move to America - net imports amounting to almost $200,000,000 so far this calendar year. (h) Some of the foreign exchanges, especially the South American exchanges, are weak relative to the dollar. (i) Member bank credit has on the whole shown little expansion in recent weeks and Federal reserve credit con tinues to decline. On last Thursday total borrowings by all banks in this district were at a low record of recent years - approximately $35,000,000. (3) Our reserve percentage is approximately 8S per cent. The stock market has been irregular and on the whole weaker during the past few weeks and in all the above circumstances there appears to be less risk of a too Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives Governor Young F E D E R A L R E S E R V E B A N K O F N E W YC / r*il 28, 1930 rapid expansion of bank credit collateraled by securities. It is, of course, difficult in the scope of a letter to review in any great detail the various matters discussed by the directors or to give the views of individual directors with respect to them. The above summary, however, refers to some of the main facts which were before the directors when they took action with respect to the discount rate at their meeting last Thursday. " Very truly yours, Governor Hon. R. A. Young, Governor, Federal Reserve Board, Washington, D. C. Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives 3 X- - 3 ? , - C ^ Date: 2 - 5 ' - J 1<? FOR ANSWERS SEE: i. 2. tM/io s. V / w / 3 ,0 — r/zy/j© 4. . 5 6. V />?A 6 7- ?/v3/3 ® 8. 9. . 10 "ylfi6 V'/V'S/50 tfy f/'it} 11 - 12 . *4J>! j^ o sJ'ylfliO Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives FEDERAL RESERVE OF B O S TO N W. P. G. WILLIAM WILLIAM KRICKEL BANK HARDING, G O V E R N O R W. PADDOCK, D E P U T Y G O V E R N O R Wl L LETT, C A S H IE R K. CARRICK, S E C R E T A R Y FREDERIC ALLEN HOLLIS w' w 0 '/Vj H C D E P U T Y C H A IR M A N O F T H E B O A R D A S S IS T A N T C A S H IE R S ELLIS G.HULT ERN EST M. LEAVITT L. WALLACE SWEETSER H. CURTISS C H A IR M A N O F T H E B O A R D AN D FED ER A L RESERVE A G E N T CHARLES F. GETTEMY A S S IS T A N T F E D E R A L R E S E R V E A G E N T April 25, 1930* Hon* B. A. Young, Governor, Federal Reserve Board, Washington, D* C* Dear Sir: In reply to your inquiry of April 19, 1930. X6S76. [I am writing to advise you that we consider it would be desirable to hold a meeting of the Open Market Policy Conference and that it would be convenient for me to attend such a meeting if it were called for May 5* f Dsputy Governor* r Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives ~C'l Fe d e r a l R e s e r v e Ba n k W. J . B A l L E Y , G o v e r n o r C . A . W O R T H I N G T O N , D e p u ty G o v e r n o r J - W - H E L M , C a s h ie r J O H N P H I L L I P S , Jr.,A S S T.C A S H iE R E . P. T Y N E R , A s s t . C a s h ie r G . E . B A R L E Y , A s s t . C a s h ie r M -W . E . P A R K , A s s t . C a s h ie r M .L .M 9 C L U R E O F Ka n sas c h a ir m a n C of d ir e c t o r s W 1 L . P E TR IK IN ity DEPUTY CHAIRMAN BOARD OF DIRECTORS A . M . M 9A D A M S ASST. FEDERAL RESERVE AGENT AND SECRETARY G . H . P I P K I N , A s s t. C a s h ie r N . R . O B E R W O R T M A N N , A s s t.C a s h ie r a Bear Governor Young: board AND FEDERAL RESERVE AGENT April 25, 1930. x This is in reply to your letter ...af- Apr11 19 .y I delayed a couple of days in answering your letter beeause our regular board meeting was held yesterday and I wanted to discuss this matter with them. If it is thought desirable, our bank will have a representative at the meeting on May 5, but the following is about the consensus of opinion of our board. We feel that the Federal He serve system should be slow in dis posing of United States securities and should be even more careful about buy ing any more under present conditions. Hfiere is quite a feeling among the banks throughout the middle west that the Board*s buying and selling of govern ment securities has worked to the disadvantage of those who were considerable holders of government securities* Of course, they are far removed from the motives that actuate and have actuated the Open Market Committee in making these purchases, but it was the unanimous feeling of our board yesterday that this matter should be dealt with very carefully and very little done at the present time. We are wondering whether there will be a Governors* Conference held any time in the near future and why this matter could not be discussed at that time* Hi is is merely a suggestion and if the Board feels that it should have this conference on the open market policy it would be perfectly agreeable to us out here. I am back at my desk every morning but I cannot say that I am 100$ all right. I am much better than I was before taking my vacation and hope of course for the best. I have missed the conferences and the meetings of the committee but I know I have been able represented by Mr. Worthington. I hope to attend at least the next Governors’ Conference. Assuring you of my hipest personal regards and with congratulations on the manner in which you have conducted the responsibilities of your posi ion as Gbvernor of the Board, I am, Most sincerely yours, Hon* Boy A* Young, Governor, Federal Reserve Board, Washington, D. C* Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives FEEERAL RESERVE BANK m NEW YORK April 24, 1930* S i r s : This will oonfixa (1) Governor Harrison's advice to you by telephone this after noon that at the meeting of tte board of directors it was "Voted, subject to review and determination of the Federal Reserve Board, to establish a rate of Ifcree per cent for all re discounts and advances, effective from the opening of toislnees April 25, 1930, and until further notice end superseding the existing rate, but with the understanding that this action of ths board of directors of the bank Is predicated upon approval or disapproval by the Federal Reserve Board today*" and (2) the subsequent advice received from you by telephone that ths establishment of ths three per cent rate in accordance with such vote was disapproved by the Federal Reserve Board, Ths following schedule of buying and repurchase agreement rates was presented and no charges were made: Bankers accept at cess Minimum established by the board of directors - 5# Currently effective minimums 1 to 120 days 5 and 6 months Repurchase - 3% - 3 l/4$> - $£ Trade bills? Minimum established by tbs board of directors - 3 1/2# Currently effective minimum - 3 1/g# Government repurchase - 3 1/2# Respectfully, Federal Reserve Board, Washington, D. 0* (Signed) Allan Sproul Secretary Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives "That the Federal Reserve Bank of New York be advised that the Federal Reserve Board has received the advice that the directors of that bank have established a rediscount rate of 3 £ , with the understanding, however, that their action is predicated upon approval or disapproval by the Federal Reserve Board today, and that the Board disapproves the antinn, of the New York directors and has determined that the rate of the bank AT BO&.ifi Mfefmw-i. APR U 1930 Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives The Governor reported the substance of a statement made to him by Governor Harrison over the telephone of the reasons ushich had led the Board of Directors of the Hew York Bank to vote a reduction of its dis count rate* The reasons had mainly to do with national and international conditions, such as the trend of business, commodity prices both in America and in Europe, money rates, the foreign exchanges and gold movements Further discussion of the national economic and credit situation ensued which developed a considerable variance of opinion between the New York Bank and the Federal Reserve Board with regard to Federal Reserve policy* It appeared that the members of the Board were still of the same opinion with regard to factors and conditions affecting Federal reserve policy as they were at the time the Board issued its call for a meeting of the Open Market Policy Conference early in May - to the effect that the immediate objective in credit policy should be the maintenance of stability rather than further easing through Federal reserve action* Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives ELEGRAM FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM ( L E A S E D W I R E S E R V IC E ) R E C E IV E D A T W A S H I N G T O N , D . C . 193b©t Newyork 4§6pm April 24 1930 \„ :^ j j YOUNG Washington^ Referring r o n r letter April 19 X-&&76 Cnd our subsequent conversations in Washington I agree with suggestion that we hare early meeting of open market policy conference but as mentioned on telephone this morning would much prefer to defer such meeting until around middle of May, This will have added advantage of further opportunity to prepare for a possible governors conference at same time. Harrison msf «. oomunaoct p&umxa •mo ■ roe m im Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives ^ r| w f7 v * j i 2 T 1930 ; Mr. R. A, Young, Governor Federal Reserve Board, Washington, D. C. jj I Of/t'fTO! Cli? l. Oi G() i.'.n) v I(*. i;r it.^ j\|o i ?h■.i, [ | Dear Governor Young: Receipt of is acknowledged. Without the background or the thou^t that is in the minds of others as an incentive, and with our more or less limited horizon, we do not consider it a matter of great importance that a meeting of the Open Market Policy Conference he held as early as May 5, There seems to be a fair degree of stability at the present time in the money market, and ttoigh^business may be regarde^aa-JtE&tic,'it is more* likely to move upwar^^lian^foTmiraittV if the^later seasonal influences are eliminated. We realize that no seasonal credit demand from business has occurred and therefore the decline has been what it is plus the normal seasonal up turn in the spring. I have a letter from Mr. Case under date of April 17, which expresses at some length and considerable patience the Hew York Bank’s view of the credit situation. This letter is in response to my letter of xApril 10,merely one of transmittal, enclosing a copy of a letter that I wrote you on the same date and a copy of my memorandum submitted at our last Directors’ meeting , copy of which I also sent you. It is quite likely that he wrote the Board at about the same time and along the same line and if he did so his letter probably had something to do with prompt ing your X-letter of the 19th. t His letter displays a restlessness and a spirit of melancholia that we do not regard as well founded. As a matter of fact the situation in reference to three phenomena that he emphasizes has materially brightened since the receipt of his letter* He regards money market conditions as having been fairly firm so far as New York is concerned since the last week in March, and points out that on the date of his letter a more substantial amount o? bnnka-rg hil la were being carried in the sales contracts than * usual and describes a pressure in this direction. NewYork's market tele gram yesterday stated that dealers* sales were quite substantial with few new bills coming out and that dealers* portfolios had been substantially reduced. Moreover on yesterday the call rate dropped to 3^ with money offered outside at 5. I understand of course that the last mentioned con dition doesn’t mean much because it merely represents the amount left over at the close of the market, whatever that amount might be, and could be as small as four or five million dollars and yet be enough to establish a rate lower than the closing call rate. He also emphasizes the stagnation and low prices in the commodity markets but on yesterday May contracts in the cotton markets advanced 51 points and the general level of prices in that commodity was up $2.00 a 'K R ep rod uced from the U n cla ssified / D ecla ssified H oldings of the N ational A rchives -2 - bale. Recently we have seen a steady upward trend in the petroleum industry and on yesterday the head of one of our large independent oil refining interests told me that all curing the latter part of march and this month he had been withdrawing stocks from storage for the first time in several years, resulting in a decrease of 90fo in that item* hr. Case also expresses a desire tc help the bond market by easier money. In view of the total amount of new financing, which has been largely bonds and debentures, practically no common stock financing coming out, that has been put out in the first quarter of the year, I can’t bring myself to believe that complaints in that direction are justified. It is quite true that the aggregate volume in the first quar ter of this year is substantially below the sane period last year, but it ranks well with the first quarter of 1928 and even with the years of 1926 and 1927. Probably some of these issues have proven sticky and are responsible to some extent for the increase that has taken place in bro kers loans, and the issue houses and the lending banks are expressing themselves dismally in the hope that the accumulations in the hands of the underwriting syndicates may be shaken out. The bond market was very dull yesterday and seems to be soft. The fact remains, however, that the market has been able tc carry what ever congestion has occurred without unduly firming money rates, and the borrowers whose obligations the securities are have received the proceeds and therefore the stimulation on business should be just the same as it would be if the securities are distributed. In addition to these three factors, Mr. Case discusses our foreign trade and foreign financing and tlie effect on the market of our raw materials, brought about by money conditions in this country durirg 1928 and 1929. My own opinion is that our tariff situation is having more effect on this than anything else. This is a long story and ir. view of the fact that there is nothing we can do about it, I shall not discuss it further. The serious situation as I see it is that m are continuing to receive gold, which has the effect of further lowering the purchasing power of tbe countries from which it comes. L.Iy belief is that the necessity for these importations is largely the service on the twelve billion dollars of capital that we have already exported and. that this service must be paid in cash in view of the substantial decrease in our imports of manu factures and raw materials from other countries. If we increase our foreign lending under present conditions it simply increases the burden of paying the service charge and accentuates the necessity of increasing our impor tation of goods. Any further penetration of foreign industry by American capital and genius is resented, yet it looks like that in view of our own tariff situation, this penetration must continue with the motive of in creasing foreign industrial activity with American capital and selling the products to other countries than the United States. I do not think I am prejudiced toward the forthcoming issue of reparation bonds, notwithstanding the fact that they represent inflation in themselves, because they are a substitute for capital that was destroyed during the war and must remain outstanding until that amount of capital can be re-saved. If it is expedient that a substantial amount of these r"”............ .................... ..... Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives -3 ' bonds be floated in this country, it may be essential that we take them. I know that it has been a bitter disappointment to New York to have to advise a probable curtailment of the amount of these bonds that could be floated in this country as compared with the first estimate or tentative commitment. The trouble seems to be, however, that the ease and the amount of funds made available for their absorption has been in the mean time absorbed in something else, whether involved in the congestion of new domestic issues or absorbed in stock speculation I am unable to say. The action of the stock market over recent weeks has been a matter of concern but in the last two or three weeks the tendency toward the revival of speculative mania seems to have subsided and the market has had what the come-on boys call a technical reaction — whatever that means. They don’t seem to be able to get the public in very much; there fore, I do not believe that that is as much of a factor for concern as it seemed that it might be some weeks ago. I have written you more at length concerning our views of the present situation than I intended or than you probably expected at this time. The main point is that we do not think we should be in such a deuce of a hurry to do something and we do not think we should get our selves in tiie attitude of hunting borrowers. As far as this bank is concerned we have done practically no business this year but it has not worried us because we believe that money will become fashionable again because it always has. If the Board decides to call an Open Market Policy Conference meeting on May 5, this bank will be represented. I make this statement not because we feel that a meeting at that time is altogether-necessary, (unless there are reasons for it of which we are not informed) but be cause we feel that if the procedure is to be carried forward under the revised plan, it is the duty of each Federal reserve bank to be repre sented and participate in the discussions and be conversant with the factors involved in the conclusions. Dr. Burgess will visit us on May 1 and 2, and we snail there fore have an opportunity to get some closer information than we possess at the present time. Very truly yours, Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives FEDERAL. RESERVE BANK OF D A LLA S April 22, 1930. CONDITION OF MEMBER BANKS MARCH 27, 1930 To the Member Bank Addressed: Condition reports as of March 27, 1930, of all member banks in the Eleventh Federal Reserve District show deposits aggregating $973,955,000 (exclusive of Government deposits) reflecting a decrease of $93,249,000 from March 27, 1929, and a decrease of $60,848,000 from December 31, 1929. Loans and discounts, as compared with March 27, 1929, show a decrease of $44,512,000, and borrowed money a decrease of $4,832,000. Borrowings from all sources March 27, 1930, were $8,261,000, of which $5,842,000 represented borrowings from the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas. COMPARATIVE STATEMENT Total deposits Individual deposits Loans__________________________ Borrowings from Federal Reserve Bank. All other borrowings Ratio of Loans to Deposits March 27,1930 (All Member Banks) Dec. 31,1929 (All Member Banks) March 27,1929 (All Member Banks) 973.955.000 846.774.000 685.518.000 5.842.000 2.419.000 73% 1,034,803,000 865.773.000 713.786.000 13,391,000 3,590,000 68% 1,067,204,000 922.297.000 730.030.000 11,382,000 1,711,000 69% Yours very truly, Governor. wmm — : --------------------------- : ------ Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives F e d e r a l Re s e r v e Ba n k of Atlanta O FF IC E GO OF V E R N O R April 23, 1950. Dear Governor Young: have vpur l&t.te£~.o£~~ April 19/5r^ative to a suggested meeting "oi1 "the Open Market Policy Conference for May 5. ■ / / I think such a meeting on that date would be desirable and if called I will attend. With my warm personal re gards, I am Sineer >vernor Mr. R. A. Young, Governor, Federal Reserve Board, Washington, D. C. A. /Q / Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF CHICAGO 230 OFFICE OF THE SOUTH LASALLE , -£-{ STREET April 25, 1930. GOVERNOR Honorable Roy A. Young, Governor, Federal Reserve Board, Washington, D. C. Dear Governor Young: The receipt is acknovvledged of mur...letter of from which I observe that because of the developments since the last meeting of the Open Market Policy Conference consideration is being given to the possibil ity of calling another meeting of the conference for Monday/ May 5. This for the purpose of determining whether the conditions now current or prospective are such as to make it / r*'", either advisable or necessary to adjust the System1s position toward the money market. I believe that the time is opportune for such a meeting; that the exchange of views on the subject will be helpful, and that some action may be necessary, if for no other purpose than to safeguard against a recurrence of the excessive use of credit for speculative purposes. If such a meeting is called, I shall be very glad to attend. Very truly yours, LK Governor! "* K Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives OF S t .L o u t s April 23, 1930. Hon. Roy A. Young, Governor, Federal Reserve Board, Washington, D. C. m n Dear Governor Youngs Your letter...of April I&Bi. ji;-S576Ws been duly received and it seems to me that a meeting of the Open Market Policy Conference would be desirable. If such a meeting is called for May 5th I will be present. Yours very truly, Governor. I ! Fed eral Re ser ve Ba n k OF M I N N E A P O L I S April 23, 1930. Hon. R. A. Young, Governor, Federal Reserve Board, Washington, D. C. . Dear Governor Young: Replying to vourj3 of the..19th.[x6,576)1 I think that a conference in the" near ruture would, probably be a very wise move, but the date, May 5th, would be a very inconvenient day for me end also for Dr. Burgess, who aots as Secretary for the conference. Dr. Burgess is to be here on May 4th and 5th to speak at the Annual Dinner of the Minneapolis Chapter of the A.I.B. and I have asked him to stay with me while here. He is planning to leave here on a late train after the meeting on May 5th, and if the conference could be put over to Wednesday, May 7th, we could both make it very easily together, or if it is desirable to have it on Monday the following Monday would be entirely satisfactory. Yours very truly W. B. Geery Governor WBG-C Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives F e d e r a l R e s e r v e Ba n k of Ph ila d elph ia 925 C H ESTNU T STREET G E O R G E W. N O R R IS , g o v e r n o r W J.LLIAM H . H U T T , DE PUTY GOVERN OR C -A . M 9 IL H E N N Y , c a s h i e r /J R IC H A R D L .A U S T IN CH AIRM AN O F TH E B OARD AND FE D E R A L R E SE R V E AG E NT A L B A B .J O H N S O N ASSISTANT CASHIERS W ,J .D A V IS R. M. M IL L E R ,O R . ^ DE PU TY C H A IR M A N O F T H E B O A R D J A M E S M .T O Y S .R . EAR L ARTHUR E .PO ST A S S IS T A N T F E D E R A L R E S E R V E A G E N T E R N E S T C. H IL L A S S IS T A N T F E D E R A L R E S E R V E A G E N T Aprl3r*32acL 1950, I R. A. y i | M"v My dear Governor Young:I have this morning in reference to a proposed meeting of the Open Market F< Policy Conference. The topic which yon suggest for discussion - "Whether the Sjyste® portfolio of governments should be maintained at its existing level” - has been in my mind for some time, and you may possibly recall that at the March meeting I suggested that I should like to hear it discussed. As a matter of fact, this par ticular matter was not discussed at that meeting. ■ The question whether another meeting should be called for May 5th ii difficult to answer, and illustrates the inconven ience of having every bank represented in the Conference membership. Personally, I do not think that the sale of (say) #100,000,000 governments would have any particular effect on the situation, beyond possibly acting as a temporary wet blanket on the stock market. On the other hand, it might be regarded by some of the other banks as being a reversal of Open Market policy, and a matter upon which they would like to have the opportunity of expressing their views and casting their votes. If they have this feeling, I would not want to deny them the opportunity. I have agreed to preside at two annual meetings on May 5th, and would regret to have to cancel these engagements. If the meeting is called for that date, this bank will therefore be represented by Deputy Governor Hutt. I am, Very trul '4a i d l t y k Governor Hon. R. A. Young, Governor, Federal Reserve Board, Washington, D. C. * -c~t F e d e r a l R e s e r v e B .v x k OF ClJWJTCX^MVX) April 22, 1930 Dear Governor Young* lour l e 1 1 e . r . - j a X . . . . A s received. It so happens that the week of May fifth is a particularly bad one for me to at tend a meeting of the Open Market Policy Conferen ce . If the meeting could be put over one week, I could attend, but I doubt my ability to be present on the fifth. Awaiting advice from you as.to the date of the conference, if one is called in the near future, I am, Hon. Roy A. Young, Governor, Federal Reserve Board Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives http://fraser.stlouisfed.org/ IFederal Reserve Bank of St. Louis F e d e ra l R e se rve Bank of o ^ Ric h m o n d April ^ 1950. Bear Governor Xoung: We have received your letty g* thm 19 lag the advisability of another conference of the Open Market Committee. It will be entirely agreeable and convenient to me to attend. It appears to me that the movements of bank credit are not subject to much criticism at the present time. From the middle of January to the middle of April, or April 16, Federal reserve credit as expressed in the holdings of bills and securities declined $200,000,GOG* The loans and invest ments of reporting member banks increased only $148,000,000, while their deposits increased #165,000,000* Brokers* loans have increased in a very pronounced way, the total increase in that period being $760,000,000$ but loans on securities of the reporting member banks increased only $404,000,000, practical ly all of it in Hew lork, where member banks are not borrowing. All other loans decreased $437,000,000, so the banks appear only to be keeping their funds employed. All of the report ing member banks were borrowing only $65,000,000. The chief question for consideration appears to be \jf whether we should deliberately withdraw funds from the market with the view of bringing about liquidation of security loans or preventing further funds going into security loans. There does not appear to be any need of putting additional funds in to the market. The security market offers about the only cheerful prospect on the horizon. Vexy truly yours, GJS-CCP Hon. E. A. Young, Governor, Federal Reserve Board, Washington, D. 0. _ Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives 3 "3 ?>.~c * FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD ° WASHINGTON X-6576 ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE TO TH E FEDERAL. RESERVE BOARD April 19* 1930. Bear Sir: Money marketf and related development® since the last meeting of tile Open Market Policy Conference March. 24-35 have been such "as to lead to some thought here, as 'elsewhere, that the relation of the Federal Reserve System to current, trends should be reviewed with a view of deter mining whether thd System* s jjosiiioii shduld fee readjusted; and, more particularly, whether the System portfolio of G$?erii&6nts should be maintained at its existing level. With. these considerations in mind, I am writing to ask whether you think a meeting in the near future is desirable, and whether it would be convenient for you to attend, if the meeting were called for Monday, May 5th. It is realized tl^at not all members of the Conference may find it convenient to at tend ^especially those living at a distance; and the fact that meetings of the Con ference have already been held this year is not overlooked by the Board. A written statement of views would be appre ciated by the Board from any bank not participating in t&e meeting of t o Conference, should it be called. Very truly yours, H. A. Toung, Governor. TO Alt GOVEWORS. V ■III Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives April 19, 1930. IS j U u . £ U / ■##wjjwbia fliiBiHi’aiBSs: Money market and Jcisadarett- developments since the last meeting of the Open Market Policy Conference liarph 24-25 have been such as to S ~ -. j .< ' ^ J . lead to some thought that the relation of the Federal Reserve System A a. to current trends should be reviewed with ■fee view of determining whether the System’s position should be readjusted;- and, more partic ularly, whether the System portfolio of Governments should be main tained at its existing level. With these considerations in mind, I am writing to ask whether you think a meeting in the near future is desirable, and whether it would be convenient for you to attend, if the meeting -warecalled for Monday, May 5th. It is realized that not all members of the Conference may find it convenient to attend, especially those living at a distance; and the fact that two meetings of the Conference have already been held this year is not overlooked by the Board. A written statement of views v rtT T be appreciated by the Board from any Q tm m m fK not participating in the meeting of the V " Conference, should -©fie be called. Very truly yours, 0£616TH<W 'B*-! M f c M U ’ VOB a., T-V Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives F o r m N o . 131. Office Correspoii.Je.-ce FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD Date.__April 1 7 , 1930. Subject:. From. Mr. James. I21 view of the conditions shown in the Federal Reserve Board press release for April 1 7 th, 1 9 3 showing condition of weeklyreporting member hanks, which discloses the fact that loans on securities to “brokers and dealers by member banks is higher notr ^ than in any period excepting October 30th and November 6 th,--I"wish to offer a motion that the Board give consideration to calling a meeting of the Open Market Policy Conference at an early date, with a view of arranging for the disposal of not less than fifty million Government securities* APB 18 1930 Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives F o r m N o . 131 Office Corresponuei.je FEDERAL RESERVE ,i0A R D From April 3.?, 1950 -'■7 ’’J % " To Date V' _______ Subject:.____________________________ __________________________, Federal Reserve Board___________ ^ :j J Mr. McClelland._________ ' ____________________________ For your information. this office. Please circulate promptly and return to Gov. Young v y Mr. Platt,*' Mr. Hamlin, Mr. James, Mr. Cunningham Mr. Miller,' Mr. Pole. %\.mjiM) Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives T- ii F E D E R AL RESERVE BANK OF D A L L A S April 10, 1930* Dear Governor roung: Thinking that it might be a matter of special interest to you, I have had extracted from my report to our Directors at their last meeting, my memorandum on the credit situation* This memorandum is of course included in the copy of the minutes of the Directors* meeting, but in tlnat form it is no doubt more unwieldy and less convenient for you to read than in the form I am sending it to you* The enclosed memorandum shows the considerations which were included in our Board's decision to reduce our rate from to 4# at the last meeting. I think you will readily see in the memorandum my attempt to examine both sides of the medal, but without equivocation on my part that the weight of action lay upon the side of a reduction. Probably you will also interpret my thought that due to an artificial ease having been initiated by the System, that in addition to the situation in our district whether or not an effect of such artificial ease - we have a condition made for us that left little else to be done except a reduction in our rate. * It will interest you to know that of seven members present at the meeting, thre^ voted in favor of the reduction and three voted against it, with Chairman Walsh breaking the tie by voting in favor of the reduction* It is also* interesting to observe that the classes of directors did not vote solidly. Two Class A Directors voted for the reduction and one against it; one Class B Director voted affirmatively and the other negatively, and this was also true in reference to the Class C Directors. Our Directors supported unanimously the views which I ex pressed at the last Open Market Conference. I do not believe that you will find the enclosed memorandum inconsistent with either the views that I ex pressed or out of harmony with the action of the Conference. Moreover the events which were forecasted at that time have occurred. The open market bill rate has come back to a proper relationship with the existing System rnipimiTm buying rate, indicating that the minimum rate suggested has been unnecessary, and certainly would have been unwise had it been put into effect. The stock market has gone on its meteoric way and it appears that some $675,000,000 of credit has already been absorbed in that category. So far I have found no reason for the increased activity and rising prices in the stock market other than cheap money. Fortunately the public does not seem yet to have been attracted in any great degree to participate, as evidenced by the fact that apparently direct loans on securities have not increased to any extent. It merely seems that the professionals so are using the excess supply of money in the market which is not being ab sorbed by business, to play with among themselves. How long it will be before the traders begin to encroach upon the normal supply of credit do not attempt to say* — - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 1 ,"1 " Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives -2 - I call your attention to a suggestion in the memorandum in reference to the possible wisdom of selling ^50,000,000 Governments back to the market at this time as a gesture toward withdrawing some of the excess funds, instead of waiting until the time when present stock market operations will increase rediscounting. Of course this amount could be immediately re-purchased, or probably they should not be sold at all if such action might bring about a violent reaction. Apparently the excess funds are not continuing to help the bond market very much as they seem to be principally employed in stock market operations. The bond market has been moving sideways and there has been much uncertainty expressed in the last two or three weeks. Yours very truly, Mr. B, A. Young, Governor Federal Heserve Board, Washington, D. G. Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives CREDIT SITUATION April 7, 1950 Reserve bank credit in use in the Eleventh District reflected a substaitial reduction during March* From the high point of $13,953,000 on March 1, loans to member banks declined to the low point, §5,440,000, on March 25* There was a grad ual upward trend, however, from this date to the close of the month, at #i ich time they amounted to $6,400,000, Bankers acceptances, which on March 1 aggregated t §16,626,000, likewise reflected1& gradual reduction during the period and reacted a low point of $8,347,000 at the close of the month. United States Government secur ities owned showed no change, although our participation in the Open Market Committee’s purchases of United States Government securities increased .'55,000,000 on March 20 to #15,649,000. This was the only change in our special participation account during the month and was occasioned by the repurchase of a like amount of government secur ities sold on February 18 to the Open Market Committee on a sixty day repurchase agreement. The changes enumerated here represent a decrease of approximately $15,000,000 in loans to member banks and in our holdings of bankers acceptances, each account having reflected a fifty percent reduction during the month. Although the exercise of our option in the repurchase of $5,000,000 of government securities had the effect of partially nullifying the decrease in earning assets, they, never theless, reflected a reduction during the period from $50,383,000 to f;40,433,000. City banks, which were indebted to the Federal Reserve Bank in the amount of |9,100,000 on March 1, effected liquidation during the month of 07,100,000 which represented a decrease from 16 to 10 in the number of borrowers. On the other hand the number of borrowing country banks increased from 86 to 107, representing an increase of 21 borrowing banks with an increase in amount of 8700,000 to $4,400,000 at the end of the month. The weekly statements of reporting member banks, which constitute the major banking strength of the district, reflected an increase in United States Government deposits for the February 26 - March 26 period of £15,000,000, together Y/ith an. -1- Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives increase of approximately y2,OOO,OOO in demand and time deposits. Investments in United States Government securities increased ^7,000,000, commercial loans decreased some $10,000,000, while loans to brokers and dealers in securities increased approximately ;!12,000,000, the difference being represented by an in crease in cash and exchange and a decrease in borrowings at the Federal Reserve Banks. According to statements of reporting member banks in leading cities of the country, deposits during the February 26 - March 36 period increased ap proximately $704,000,000, constituting demand deposit increase of 8260,000,000, time deposit increase of 0211,000,000, with United States Government deposit increase of $233,000,000. creased $560,000,000. Total loans and Investments during this period in This expansion was not in the form of commercial loans however, which reflected a decrease of $84,000,000, but on the other hand was represented by loans to brokers and dealers in securities, #iich increased $543,000,000. While bank loans and investments during the period expanded .^560,000,000, the leading member banks have been able to reduce their Federal Reserve Bank borrowings from $152,000,000 to ^47,000,000, the latter figure comparing with a total of .^>779,000,000 a year ago. In this connection I might mention that the total increase in time deposits for the period is due largely to the fact that banks do not quickly readjust their rates on time deposits, which rate is normally, so far as this district is concerned, 4°/o9 and it is fairly stable at that iigure. .Therefore, when the extraordinary ease came into the market, around the March 15 Govern ment financing period, there was undoubtedly a very strong tendency toward bringing funds out of the trading market and taking advantage of the batek rate, due to a disposition on the part of the owners of the funds to wait to see just what the market was going to do. This evidently has not brought about a m ; Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives tendency to an outright conversion of demand deposits into tine deposits, due to the fact that demand deposits, which show substantial increase, have, likewise, been affected somewhat by the same causes that have affected time deposits. The effect of any tendency to convert demand deposits into time deposits would be to release reserves and add to the ease in the market insofar as rates are concerned. The substantial decline in commercial borrowing, and the absence of any demand, would indicate that the substantial increase in the net demand deposits has come from the commercial segment, and would also indicate that ; payment for merchandise previously shipped ?jas running at a much higher ratio | to new shipments than Tsas formerly the case. I I | According to weekly statements of reporting banks, brokers loans re- ] fleeted rather substantial increases for the weekly periods ending March 5, | 12, and 19, amounting to $94,000,000, :137,000,000 and 0131,000,000, respec- I i tively. j verted to the upward trend for th© period ending April 2, having increased ! during the latter week by 1148,000,000 to a grand total of -3,968,000,000* They declined, however, ^31,000,000 during the fourth period but i?e- Although our Federal Reserve Note circulation declined i5,345,000 from \ j J February 26 to March 26, and contributes to the ease in the credit situation, it need not be considered an important factor in this discussion. The decline is purely seasonal and because of the fact that the circulation was higher on i I February 26, due to the disturbed banking situation in the district for three weeks prior to that date, the decrease in circulation may be pretty well dis regarded. Under date of March 7 Mr. J. H. Case, Chairman of the Board of the j Federal Reserve Bank of New York, wrote us in Governor Harrison*s absence abroad, | expressing the Hew York Bank’s general view of the credit situation as a result -3 - of their own survey. The letter called attention to the trend toward easier rate having continued perhaps even more rapidly than was anticipated at the time of the Open Market meeting in Washington in January, yThis was due to gold Imports, principally from Japan and South .America, am^mting to o55,000,000 in 2’ebruary, which was not foreseen at that time. Th^re was further ease coming partly from a continued credit liquidation, ajya ' the rapid decline in Federal Re serve Note circulation was even a greaterjractor, Even in view of these circum stances and apparently without takingJfnto consideration the additional ease that would occur at the tax period on M^srch 15, the [Federal Reserve Bank of New York on its own account and with the approval of the Federal Reserve Board, set about to make what was described as a terafrorary purchase of 1:50,000,000 of Government securities, gradjjstb^ over the succeeding next few weeks. This purchase, however, was cqjiirtfSiiated in two transactions of approximately 025,000,000 each, and con.eluded almost immediately after the decision and approval. The proceeds of this purchase were put into the market aihnost simultaneously with funds piling up from the check float from tax payments and the redemptions of the Treasury maturities on March 15 prior to the collection of tax payments. Money became sloppy and on one day the call rate dropped to 2% and the bill rate dropped to as low as 2 -f/> bills up to 90 days maturity, the market was evidently very badly misled and bill dealers* portfolios were practically liquidated. The New York banks were ever in their reserves to such an extent that they were led to run too far below their re serves in the succeeding period with the consequence that when the Treasury*s over draft to the Federal rese ve banks was paid off and due to the fact that the money market lost tUnds rapidly withdrawn under the low rate, they were compelled to borrow rather heavily for the next succeeding few days. Mr. C as& *s letter suggested that it was likely that an Open Market meeting would be called for Monday, March 24, and this was later confirmed by the Federal Reserve Board, On March 15 I replied to Mr. Casefs letter, setting forth our the views rather fully,/purport of the letter being that we not only questioned hut were conclusively opposed to any further artificial ease in the money situation and that we did not believe that any further initiative steps should be taken by the System. I read this letter to the regular meeting of our Executive Committee on March 17 and found the members of the Committee much in sympathy with the views that I had expressed. I attended the Open Market meeting in Washington on March 34 and 25, at which all of the banks were rep resented. Before leaving for the meeting, however, I received Mr. Case's letter of March 18 in acknowledgment of my letter of the 15th. In that letter I was advised that the St, Louis and Minneapolis banks, beside ourselves, were the only banks heard from to that date that appeared to be in disagreement with the policy. Chicago and Kansas City had not been definitely heard from but the statement was made in the letter that all the other banks faere in agreement with the steps that New York had taken. It seems that the fact that these eight banks had accepted participations in the |>50,000,000 purchase by New York on its own account, was assumed to be an expression of approval. At the Open Market meeting, however, I found that all but the representatives of the New York and Atlanta banks shared the views which I had expressed in my letter to the Federal Reserve Bank of New York of March 15. It seemed at the meeting that Governor Norris of the Philadelphia bank and I were called upon to lead the discussion and present these views at the first session of the conference, which was a joint meeting with "the Federal Reserve Board. Governor Young stated that the Board had before it an application from the New York bank for a minimum buying rate of for bills. There was, however, a discussion in which it was rather clearly indicated both Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives on the part of the New York bank and the Board, that there was no intention to reduce the rediscount rate of the Federal Reserve Bank of New Y^rk below the which was fixed and approved on March 13* The representatives of the New York bank expressed the view that due to maturities of approximately .,100,000,000 in bills then held by the System, within the next thirty days, that some steps should be taken to maintain the portfolio. The majority view of the conference, however, was that the market should be le#t to its own devices &hd that for the time being at least natural forces should be allowed free play without further interference on the part of the System, and that in all likelihood the bill market would firm moderately, making it unnecessary for the change in the minimum buying rates for bills to be made. At the afternoon session with only the representatives of the Federal Reserve banks present, and after only a very brief discussion, the acting secre tary of the conference, Dr. Burgess of the New York bank, prepared and submitted the following memorandum, which was unanimously adopted: "The Open Market Committee, including informally representatives of all the reserve banks, has considered the information submitted in the Chairman*s preliminary memorandum, by the Federal Reserve Board, and by representatives of the several banks. ?rJhile Treasury tax period pperations have distorted the neartine view of the money situation, it is clear that since the meeting of the Committee on January 28 and 89 money conditions have eased substan tially and money has became more freely available and the ease has been extended from the short time to the long time money market. "The Committee believes the steps already taken by the Federal Reserve System in easing the money market through open market opera tions have gone as far in providing the stimulus of easy money for business use as seems desirable at this time. The Committee believes from the Unclassified/ Declassified Holdings of the National Archives that at present there is no occasion for further purchases of Government securities, "In the interest of flexibility and preparedness for the unex pected, the Committee favors a reduction in the minimum buying rate on bills, fixed by the Reserve Board, to 2-1/2$* It is the sense of the meeting, however, that in the absence of some developments that cannot now be anticipated, bills should not be bought below 3$*w Since the meeting there have been three or four successive increases in bill rates by dealers so that at the present time the effective selling^pfiftes are 2-3/4# for bills up to ninety days, 2-7/8% for bills up to 120 d^ys, and 5% for four months to six months maturities* This has made unnecessary any further x"" reduction in the minimum buying rates, confirming the Judgment of the conference as expressed at the meeting. While for a few days call money continued at following the excessive ease for only one day, it firmed to 4% and has since been steady at that rate# On Wednesday of last week the dealers made very sub stantial sales of short bills to the System, following a substantial increase in their sales contracts at the close of the previous week* The increase in discounts which might have followed the rapid decline of the bill portfolio has been negli gible and the dealers* sales have evidently, through natural processes, cared for the situation in a satisfactory manner* The recent increased activity in the stock market and the rapid rise in security prices with a slowing down in both the activity and rise in bond prices, have confirmed ray own opinion that the easing processes on the part of the System went too far and have resulted in a spurt of speculation based solely on easy money in the fac* of discouraging factors in practically all other directions, unless we can assume that such activity, notwithstanding the rather high prices which have been attendant, is a forerunner of business recovery some months hence, which we know from past experience might easily have a historical foundation. -7- c\ "V' My own view at the present is that it would do no harm but might on the other hand prove beneficial for the System, probably at this period, to execute a gesture toward this situation which might be expressed by selling say $50,000,000 of Government securities back to the market, being ready of course to repurchase them instantly, should the gesture be taken over-seriously* In any event, it would remove the #50,000,000 which has been put in the market by the last purchase of that amount of securities, that seems clearly to have created an excess ease to that extent. Considering the situation from a national viewpoint, I am convinced that our present discount rate is correct if it were possible to compare it with the discount rate in New York of 4$* My view ie further strengthened by reason of the fact that there is an equal discount rate in London and New York with a firm sterling rate which was recently at the export gold point* The earlier part of this discussion has no doubt indicated to you that the statistical situation in this district points to a justification of a 4$ discount rate for this bank* The differential of 1% between our rate and the New York rate does not seem in itself to be a factor in a reduction of our rate at this time, in view of the fact that we have no evidences of any outside borrowing that should properly be done in this district, either by banks or commercial interests* At the present time, beside New York, there are six banks with a 4$ rate and five banks with a 4ij$ rate. In many respects the present year bears a close resemblance to the comparable period in 1927, with the exception that the business recession has been more severe in 1930 than iji 1927; commodity prices are lower, and, because there is a much smaller dollar proceeds of production in this district this year than in 1927, no doubt the debit trade balances against the district are considerably larger. Our ^tasoount rate at that time was 4$ and remained so until August 12, 1927, when it was reduced to 3g$. Our city banks are meeting with a demand on the part of the makers of existing lines for a reduction in rate but the downward course of -8- Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives these rates on current loans has lagged very considerably. Undoubtedly a reduc tion in our rate to 4$ would increase the pressure on our city banks for lower rates, but holding our rate at 4-gfc would not remove the pressure in that direction that is being exerted at the present time and over a period of the last three or four weeks, I think the Board in its consideration of the discount rate should take cognizance of a possible effect upon bankers balances in this district if the rate should be reduced to 4$, The banks in Dallas and Fort Worth pay 2~J$ on bankers balances; in Houston the rate is, I understand, half the Federal Reserve Bank discount rate with a minimum. of 2$ and a maximum of 3$. I ara not informed what basis the San Antonio banks use but the minimum rate is likely 2$. Tly thought is that if our reduction in rate would have a material bearing on the rate paid in this district on bankers balances and these rates should be reduced following the reduction in our rate, that the tendency would be to drive bankers balances out of the district into call loans and to a lesser extent into bills, and raise the ques tion of city bank borrowing for other than business purposes* In view of what appears to be an extreme economy in the use of credit in this district at the present time and a similar trend for the immediate future, I think that the weight of recommendation is on the side of our reduction to a 4% rate, I would be much gratified if we should find it possible to operate for the next few months on a 4^ rate, and that there would be no firming of rates generally in the late summer just prior to our principal crop movement and seasonal business activity, I always have the fear that a too rapid easing of rates due to open market transactions, although for the purpose of stimulating business revival, might bring about such illegitimate uses of credit as to require opposite action and a firming of rates just when business is beginning to make a showing. -9 - Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives Fe d e r a l R e s e r v e o f Ba n k Ne w Yo r k April 10, 1950. Dear Governor Young: We acknowledge receipt of us that the Federal Reserve Board, after consideration of the report made at the conference meeting on March 24, is in agreement with the statement contained in the report; viz., that the steps already taken by the Federal Reserve System in easing the money market through open market operations have gone as far in providing the stimulus of easy money for business use as seems desirable at this time. We observe your statement that, for this reason, the Board concurs in the con clusion that at present there is no occasion for further purchases of Government securities and that, except in the event of some unforeseen development, bills should not be bought below 3%. It is further noted that the Board desires to keep under review for the present at least the question of a reduction to 2 1/2% in the minimum buying rate on bills. Faithfully yours, J* H. CASE, Chairman of the Board. Honorable R. A* Young, jBrbvemor, Federal Reserve Board, / Washington, D. C. f the National Archives / '••J W April d 9 1930* y.u/ Dear Itr. Caae: ~i' 3 f 3 - jo J The ?ederal Reaerve Board htui had under con sideration t ^ ^ i ^ K K r l L a N ^ at the conference meeting on liaroh 24th. ft la in- agreement with tho etatenant con tained In the report that tha atepe already takan by tha Federal Be**r*a.Syat** In eaaing the money market through opan Market operatiana hare gone .as far in providing the atlnulua of easy noney for buaineaa uae aa m m a deairabla at thla tine. It, therefore, ooncura in tha conclu sion that at present there la no oaoaalon for further purchaeee of (knreraarat eeeuritiea>nd that, except in the event of boom unforeseen developnent, bllla ahouXd no-V be bou^it below 3ffc* " * .In vi*# of the trend of bill rat*a ainoe tbe date of the m e e t l y however, the Board deeire* to keep under review for the time being the queetion of a reduc tion to S-l/ajt In the Minimal buying .rate m bilie* Very truly youra, St# Am YOUsHfl, Governor. Hr* J* H. Caee, Aotinc Chairaan, Open Market Policy Conference, Federal Reserve Bank, Tfarw York City, II. Y. y w/ < Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives I***'1’ F E D E R A L RESERVE B O A R D W A S H IN G T O N OFFICE OF GOVERNOR April 8, 1930 Ca$e: Dear The Federal Reserve Board has had under considera tion the repor\ made at the conference making on March 24th* It is irkagreement with the st^rement contained in the report that the steps already Mken by the Federal Reserve System in Yasing the money market through open market operations have gone as faj^ln providing the stim ulus of easy money fbr business y&e as seems desirable at this time* It, therefore, congers in the conclusion that at present there is noXoccastan for further purchases of Government securities akd th^ft, except in the event of some unforeseen development, NbiJ^s should not be bought below j{ 111 view of the treria\pf bill rates since the date of the meeting, however, jjhe Board desires to keep under re view for the time beMg theYquestion of a reduction to 2 l/2*£ in the minimjyfo buyina rate on bills. T.Tnrfcgr eujgtn Tlttt. ntiQn^Q be loifi ' . nt^rf n . a change m s be prepared Very truly yours, R. A* Young, Governor Mr* J. H* Case, Actim^unairman, Open Market PoliflfjfConference, c/o FederaJ^eserve Bank, Newjfcf^k, N. Y. BOA&t> MBETING. APK 8 1930 Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives 3 3 3, 2!*s Open lisxiait Qmaiittoo, lasludliig iaTonaaULy representatives of all the vwmevm btix&s, has aousiaoroa the in to m m ttm mibyitted in the Qh&irraeiji#*s prsllsdmry by tho 'm ^sm X Boson* Board* mSL by m ffm m u tutivoo of tha several bailee* & ile treasury tax p rlo d operations have distorted the m>ar~ttoe view of the s w m y situation* it Is ole&ir that elnas the nestlac o f the coqr tolttae wx Jonu&xy iS and 29 m ^ r oonditioiis have oamS substantially sad Ht»a beoane snore freely avilabl® arid the eo&e has boon extended fron tho short tia * to the long tins zao&oy imrket* H m Oomittoe believes tho step* already token by tho F®doi?ml aogowo n y u tm i n w m ltu z tho m m ty Market tbrougi open aarkot operations hove aono o» far in .providinu tho otlu*lus of -easy mmmy for busi&ess use ms seem dec iruble at this time* fho oaeasittoe believes that &t preecnt there Is bo oooualon for further purahaaoe of uovernmeat seeurifies* In tho Interest o f fle x ib ility m & pr©poredaess fo r tho uimmd» posted, iho aaemitttiO Ikvom a reduotian la tho ntalimisi buying rate m h ills , fi»e d hr the lissom Board, to It is tho m n m or th© dieting, hoeofer* that in tho abeeoao o f si*ie developiamte ttat oaonot M r bo anticipated, b ills ahouJUi not bo bought boloer Jh&vvwZ AT B O A R D M E ^ S n Q . pmR 880