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Stuyvesant Road, Mtmore Forest, Biltuores N.C., Fobruery 14, 1927. Dear Pierre; mail accumulated so rapidly and I have had so little inclination to visite any letters at tell that I have eimpiy written none, even those ehich I was most anxious to send promptly. Now that I have nom° help, I must first eend you a most inadequate lino of apprecietion of your bully letter and of the wonderful cuff links. I am so glad to have exactly whet you sent me. They were not only a re- minder of our association, for which no reminder is needed, but in my mind, being what they c.m, they emphasize what did co :such to rake our association and the work of the Dank successful, and that is the splendid tradition that you brought to it. It hies been the happiest weeerionce in my bucinees life, ...nd the Bunk eill never seem the se.uo withoet you there. Now I do wish you every pousible success in Berlin. a You will have splendid lot of mon around you, and with Gilbert end Shop !Aorgrn there, you should feel at home. You made a great contribution to the succosc of the blugest enterprise the world ever undertook in econowice, and I no the many thrills that it will E,iwe you. As to myself, I an progrocsing slowly, but au still not allowed to take a particle of exercise beyond coming downstairs once a day. few weeks I expect to begin walking. to be back at the Dank. In anot4er Possibly by early April I shall hope Phil and I are keeping house in a little cottage, Ernest is also with ushers to help, and we have a good Southern cock, so we Ere comforteb20 and live very lazily. Won't you give my boat to Urs. Jay, to Gilbert and tc :'orgen,and 2. Mr. Jay. 2/14/27. to any other of my friends whom you may come acrost, and every kind of good wish to you. Faithfully yours, Mr. fiorre Jay, c/o '.ronEfer Comittoa, Reparvtions Commission, 33, Luiverxtraoso, 133RLIN, Germany. Stuyvesant Road, Biltmore Foreut, Piltmore, N. C. March 15, 1927. Dear Pierre: It is high time that T wrote you, although about the only matter that t can put in a letter it an account of myself, for I am still at Biltmore, climbing back to health. You will certainly recognize this letter, if any that I ever write you seem familiar, because I am dictating it to Mites Holmes who is down here helping mt catch up with mail, ane teenerally making me feel that I am able to do a little work. Phil and I have a little cottage which we finu very comfortable. WE have an excellent colored cook, a very stout dy who is the wife of a Methodist minister in Asheville, and Ernest does everything else. I have eo far gotten beck to normal that I can keep up with my mail and tame a walk of three quarters of an hour every day so long as I do not climb hills, and spend an hour a day at the dentist's. I have no temperatuve and no particular thing to mind me teat I have been ill at all except that I cannot exert v'elf without come fatigue. Dr. Ringer, in whose care I am conigned by Dr. Miller, tells me that I have Improved conetantly, nd all the signs are satisfactory. The Ilet X-Ray picture was even better than the one Dr. Miller last took, which you saw. shall be back on the job. I hope, before the end of April. Everybody was delighted about McGarrah's decision. I He will be a most eftiefactery member of the family, but noons could have taken your place. The last word I had http://fraser.stlouisfed.org/ geLted that Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis p rom Washington sub- McGarrah would continue as a member of the Reichebank AO. Stuyveeant Road, Biltmore Forest, PERSONAL 'Iiltmort, N. C., March 26, 1927. sOOMIDear ierre: It was indeed a great delight to -day to have your letter of March 8. You anticipated a great many queetions which I would have teen asking you had you been here. I ehahn't send you much in reply, except to comment on one or two matiere you mention, and to report on my on progrees. Taking the latter first, I am really very much better. Of course, I am not playing golf yet, or doing any foolish things like that, but I am doing a regular amount of work, sleeping well nights, maintaining my weight, and I feel that the general nervous tension resulting from my illness is very much lessened. The doctor Gives me a good report, so I am returning next week to New York to have Miller examine me, and going immediately to Atlantic ity for two or three weeks. Except for a,ae the development: in Poland and erbia, anu a possible development in Italy which is mere remote, I agree that there are no prospects for stabilization programmes in Europe this summer. My trip abroad is still indefinite. you deprecate the idea. I can understand why Nor would the trip be in connecti n with anything like stabilization, but rat:.er having to do with mother development which is fast approaching but which probably cannot be dealt with until next year anyway, and that is the need for some attempt at _wising a formula to regulate or control the operations now developtiing under what is-goeolftrly kno4 as the gold exchange standard. This is, of course, quite confidential. Some of our banking friends abroad are getting a bit agitated about it, and some of our directors are viewing the subject with some concern. I shall Aver. Jay - 2 - not elaborate in this letter. vague. s011b 3/26/27. In fact, my own ideas are still pretty Put the time ie coming when, for our protection if not for the maintenance of our banking poeitioe, in the world, something will need to be done about it. That you write about the aLitation in regard to Germany's capacity to pay under the Dawes Plan intereete me very much indeed. It was played up pretty strongly over here, and in come of the preen notices was represented as a deliberate effort to start an agitation in anticipation of demands to moderate the scheme of payments. Oer- tainly thie would be the worse possible policy just now, and I em glad to have the simple effective explanation you make of what has happened. All the other matters you write about interest me so much that I am hoping you will develop the habit! (Speaking of interesting books, I don't know whether you can get it in Germany, but you certainly should read Ludwig's"Wilhelm Hohenzollern." If you haven't read it and can't bet it there, let me khow and I will see that one reaches you by nand. pitiful picture. It is a tragic and It gives one a great sense of clapreeeion, but every one should read the book. The most recent developments in connection with filling the unfillable gap which you left are partly satisfactory and partly the revdrse. MoGarrah's acceptance, of course, was most satisfactory. He will be a fine cooperative and helpful colleague. that respect is everything that we could -aieh. The outlook in The less satisfactory development was apparently unofficial but due to some inspired statements in the press coming from Washington, that the Board proposed now to take advantage of the passage of the McFadden r5ill and the 3 = 3/26/27. extension of the charters to reorganize the scheme of management of the Reserve banks, kick out some of the }federal reserve agents, and replace them with stronger men, and ex-rciee a more effective control of the :yetem than had heretofore been possible. (`f course, all sorts of exaggerated reports resulted, some of them appearing in print, many of them passing by word of mouth, and the reaction, naturally enough, has been very critical of any utich proposal. I am told that ?enator Glass has taken the matter up vigorously, and unless he can get satiefaction he is threatening to ask Congress to modify the powers of the Board when the congress meets in December. (1 course, this is all gossipy, but is an iniication that rehab you and and judgment is that it is in the minds of only two or three members of the Board, arei the only result of the agitation will be to cause a certain amount of discredit on be management of some of the Reserve banks which will do noone any good. The real misfortune growing out of this development is not so much in the public reaction, but in the disturbance which it has cau,ed within the Reserve bank thecleelves. Mr. case was here recently and told me thut in a number of the Reserve banks there is a good deal of anxiety. o rany of our good men have been induced to continue their work and decline attractive offers elsewhere - and thieopplies to other banks than ours - tiett I fear if anything in the nature of a confirmatinn of this programme should develop we vi)uld lose some of the beet men we have. This ie where the poesibil- ity of a real calamity lies, and it gives point to your recommendation that T should stay home this summer, which I am indeed tempted to do even though the urge to make the trip and start eomething in the way of an underetandinLiis liable to become fairly strong. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org/ that Federal Reserve surmise Bank of St. Louis I the decision in this matter rests more with Dr. Miller r. Jay - 4 3/26/27. than with anyone else. I promised a picture of you and, ao I recall, the bargain was clinched by ;Visa Bleecker delivering you a picture o not recall scein6 the picture, although it mizht have Ar as so full of.dope, diatuee and depression that I don't If I hive not got onee.and I inoiet upon Navin one - T for it gold a foremout place in my collection. Now do write me again, and you can count on my ball rolling. liAithfully yours, Mr. Pierre Jay, 33 Luizenstrasue, Berlin, Germany. .01:71I AL July 21, 192T. 4 Deer Pierre: It was fine to h-v0_, your letter of June 22, and it bas remained unanswered until the present moment simply because of lack of time whine our visitors were her,_, as we were out of tom slaost continuously. This letter is, of course, quite confidential, but I wish you would show it to Gilbert and than put it away safely, for I should like you both to know something of the talks which took place during this much-advertised visit. The subjects discussed, with what might he described as an official background, were roughly as follows: (1) The position of the Ban',- of France vie-a-vim London and New York as to its immense holdings of devisen. extraordinary movelynta of gold between the markets. (2) Th (5) The technical pr, ctice of our Treasury Dept.rtment and the Reserve bank in buying gold. (4) A possible method of temporarily arresting shipment= of gold to this country so E a to avoid the addition of the expense of movin; it to New York and back again to (5) Europe. The possibility that the return to the gold standsrd and the necessery policies of the banks of issue in for th- recent (3) steady de line of connection may be responsible the general price level. Central bank policies be terest in respective that to rates anU relative levels of in- markets under present conditions. Of course, such discussion < as the' al7ove cover en immense range of http://fraser.stlouisfed.org/ Mr. Pierre Jay Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - - 2 t 6/21/27. -3- Mr. Pierre Jay liquidated, and which year tf25,000,000 Germany. 7/21/27. will doubtless be returned in kind. must be transferre: Naturally my interest in cesh In the fifth annuity or kind, leas payments made. within in connection with the gold etanderd is as to eee possibility of these tranefe.re being made without difficulty, one I should like your ouramente upon the following views. Up to date the entire amount which has been paid by Cerium,' on repara- that ie to et.y, by the orieinal loan tions has been covered by foreign locale; of 4-'000,000,00C, in 1924 ana by the subsequent private loun made to German etetee, municipalities and industries. German banks now owe abroad on On top of that it ie suggested that the abort credits no ieee than t500,000,000, offset poseibly to the extent of 1:300,000,000 by funds which they have one may or another invested abroad for themeelvee or for their have been place: in this country during the pest may continue to be a resource may dry up. clients. three yearn Losne such ea by Germen borrowers for transfer purposes, but on the other hand they If the moment arrives when the entire amount of the annuities can- not be transferred and funds begin to accumulate in the hence of the. Tre.nefer Agent, sill it not then bemuse impossible for German orroeere to negotiate loans in foreign merketa in a large way? It seeme to me to be likely, partly because of the doubt as to Germany meetini. the. service of the loens and partly beesuee of the eritetion and possible hostility which mill be displayed by the principal reparation creditors to having the service of those loans met and transfers on ac_ount of reparations reduced or niscontinued. hue. a position by Germany's creoitors may not acco-d with the terms of the plan and say not be just, but seems quite likely to arise, nevertheless. The obvious aneeer is that the principal of th.. loans were themselves tre Mf11-116 origine13) of mtking zerretion trtnefere, and the lenders should Dot, of course, be peaaised after rr. Pierre Jay -4- 7/k1/27. Mr. Pierre Jay Al . 7 - there ultimate payments to the United States without a heery strein upon the e.ch see`, upon the resource's of the benhe of issue, end ultimately upon the gole etanderd. Ar to the first ponsibility, if there is to be any readjuotment - end as to thet of course I cen have no ju4ment - it ,:eene to me that it ehoule be attempted ee aoon as poseible. Hoe it can be Attempted is the difficulty, and who cen rkire the question? Gun it be suggested in connection *WI turtilei negotiatione for the funding of the French debt to the United Stet e, or cen it be eiugriebted by kr. Gilbert,' Certainly it is not likely to be euteeetod by the I do noe find that P'rench. belief that the question can there i rs any sentitsont in thi e country justifying be brought up successfelly here, ano certainly not before the elections, end then may it not be claimed that ny suggestion coming frog Gilbert in outeide the (-lope of his responsibilities under the Oen? This, of course, is -.her speculetion. I ,eould personally feel Viet the -orlu be sefer e.nd the possibilities of disorders be better avoided if early approeoh acre made to this subject. rrt.her then to hove it delayed until ke etzospeere of doubt bf-.d been erected End all the difficultire eccoapanyinL such coteitions w, re elloeed to develop. is to the second point, the attitude not hepe but feel th..,t if Cermeny is of the Gelman to the Transfer Committee, when doubt are to cep?city that Germany has promptly msee but demur. can- to continue to collect testes and melee eepmente to the frensfer Arent end leeve the subject or Mr. Gilbert would be in a position to Govee-netent - I to transfers entire.10 transfer tie-teed say that the treeefere cannot be fully amt her eresseements under the plan without Than Germany will leein the support of the world and be in a totter position to negotiate than if her Government, eere led to undertake .ny prelimfinery mefieuvere car prorteende. or make any other effort to deal with tie question 7/21/27. Ir. Pierre Jay of trttnsfert i n dvpnce. Your letter touches upon ',hi German point onthe n),we 6. Government r fatal, in my opinion, t borrowing by the atatee matter of common knowle make reports, will all advanced as the reason city to make trensfere, afford good ,,-; for I teken up eerly rather th There is a su 'enk and Schecht'e atti execution of the of vertiee them. the I em led product of the discuesion rect; th, atmo of this with t he saw the exeggeratint3 them or ev billion m rks of devise from the same time combination of that Germany required by Germany to tion in stocks beyond w Peichebank has undoubte private banks abroad wh Any doubt &rising as to funds no matter whet m -7- Mr. Pierre Jty 7/21/27. 11,e (lerman economic inquiry of last fall Welch :)roduced Schacht's testimony likwas i'Ede some time prior to the extraordinary developmente of last wintur and the firet part of this year which htc.i so profound an effect upon the position in France, Germany and England. I should .iuppone that if he were asked the same questions to-day his ane:i3rs would dieolose quite a different situation and give rise to his expressing quits different opinions. His exnlanation of keeping, his rate down seemed to be rather convincing, even though hypothesis. upon a false It was the speculation io stocks ard the inducement of profitable rates which caused the flow of funds to Germany to Pone extent, and rates with the Stock market still rising, might well of funds, thereby greatly undermining Sehechtle Tou may take it from me that I have still higher induced further flow position. am always inclined to discount state- mente which appear to have their origin in self-interest. The visit of these eentlemen here bee resulted in my gaining ever had of the facts and a much better knowledge the putting those along ride of then I have facts of our position shown in the enclosed statemmte, have confirmed the doubts which you know I have long held on, the transfer question, can 'e done to anticipate the and now I am wondering whether anything strain or whether it must be courageously faced when it arises. The election position does complicate setters. occurs next May and obviously no Frenchman prior to anything in the way of an adjustment. occurring next fell, makes it The French the election election can advocate The German election as tell as ours, impoeeitle for any Cermen statesman to 6ctait capacity to make full transfers, and most of them, I raise doubts and objections. In this suppose, will be tempted to country I can hardly see how any candidate could come out squarely for a revision of debt Eettlemente before the election. rierra Jay 7/2W27. 9 while I peraoh.11y do t tLink Mould be tin control:Arc factor ...r& our policy it f...o o»... that iiivee rive to in. po sieny important nuoh qlibtIt,111 1410. i t ilia to be reckoned wi th. I hat. just raibleO Bloat, in this lot',...er bs tLcutil 't.. :Jerk-, talking to arbor, sad it would be of the 6roo.tlal:, koaaille _ervioo too ra4 if you could write me Ltuitt as fully ..ud franily, sad especially if you ao talk with Gilbert. My plane ;.il rather indefinite. I en going to take it ewer .hie have 601.1e thOlte;bt th,t -1YWil.srti6 the end of the year I I'ould sumii.er tua It.aian bo1.t, i.et off J.t GILT -Ittr, and apend boat, tine at ta&ecirto, which la a cou.:orteble quiet pli,00 .)nci abere come and r14 t me if I do hrvs proeined to of ori Should this plan mT.tErialile I hope Gil t,:t or you cool:: come doer' there, or possibly bath of ys:,u, for no conotro about 71 ehe..t. You need The vieit of our centrtl b-!ok frioude, ubile Li-a- eendouely e..Ovorticec. here, hoe, OE the whole, procluoed a ft.voreble reaotion, liLiGt I bdieVO tho pest yotro of advertiiiind clf our moctint;e have re:suited in their being igener4ly accepted e-lidcace of progrera an..-3 good order iu worlu finanoe. Sty beat rez,-..rde to you b..ncl to Gilbert and to all the rent in Berlin. th y I hope to hear from you befole 1on6. Ir. Pierre lajiseaJtrasse, Berlin, Germany. '-22'11.4-frtzu - t-0 C- -et- ".1.-1 LicAR Lf G. Is _ Lo0A amx, . ' \A/4C- t-411.1,L--4( CON DEN TI August 4, 1927. Dear Pierre: Since writing my letter of July 21 dispatched through Vigglesworth, I received a ceile signed jointly by Gilbert and yourself which naturally raised the question as to whether some representation as to our talks had already been made to you; also possibly whether you might not feel that what I have already written is not somewhat influenced by views which may have been expressed to me while Norman a.nd Schacht were here. As to the first question, I think you know my feelin. e about this transfer problem; they have been unchanged from the start. from the Dawes Plan was that it would The most I have ever hoped put those concerned to bed for a rest cure for a period of years and that at the end of the cure the situation would have de- veloped to a point (both economically and be possible such as was entirely out of politically) where a final adjustment might the question at the time the Dawes Plan wee devised. As to the wisdom of the plan I have never had any doubts; permanence I have as to its never felt that the transfers could be fully and indefinitely effected. My own concern with the situation ariees principally as to probable stains upon the gold standard, and if the strain does arise within say two years, as to the extent to which our investors will by then have poured money into the lap of a debtor who mt./ not be able to meet all of his engagements and will then have no choice as to which debts he shall meet. As to the second po,:eibility, pl 'etre dismiES it. I have al ways been 8.4.?7 Mr. Jay 2 *alive to the various interests =,nd motives of some of our friends across the veAer: There is one point which I failed to cover in my letter of July 21, and ttlibie the oft repeated statement that a large amount of the foreign lo ens placed in this country has been repurchased by investors in the countries by which the securities If you will look over the tabulation sent you I think you will agree were i seued. with me th-t securities so repurchased are confined to only a few of the borrowing countriee such as the Eritiah, French, Swiss, Dutch and to some extent the Germans. But if we lumped them all together and assumed arbitrarily that even 25% of all of these lEE0,16 had been repurchased, the results would not be very gre.tly affected. There is no short :ay of arriving at fii:ures, and time loans also the complication of the cross currents of The probable fact is thst the somewhat obscurer: the picture. short credits owed by our country are very largely counterbal "nced by the short credits we have extended abroad. account could be If the whole short credit reckoned up it would likely be found that we owe short time balances and investments to foreigners -hich are counterbalanced by short credits extended throuehout the world by our own might bankers which would not be much short of this total, and porsibly it. But of course this I have should time now to even exclude at least a part of the unusual French devisen. 4ive you a very brief outline of the discussion first six topics mentioned in mine of July 21 and of course this is all most tial, but I think you (1) exceed and Gilbert should know about of the confiden- it. The position of the B.nk of France visa -vie London and Ne* York as to its immense holdings of devisen: Their holdings of gold and devisen are certainly as large as tte current published estimates. They have complete confidence in their ability to negotiate checks upon and get gold from New York to any amount desired. They co not feel so as to Lon :on. Means have been fours. with some slight assist .nce from uc and now that the to ease the position along tide has at least partly turned and the purchases of devisen by the Bank of France have dropped to what might be regarded Mr. Jay S ise a normal figure I doubt if any trouble arises from this in the French position. They will buyAkme gold with sterling, and agreed that these solo of payments to are The extraordinary (2) convert be able to suite willing to profitably to here be a possible just are at possibly some steps can so long will and the possibilities this market price ultimately to pay for at which gold is sold by the Treasury between the buying and selling price ie 1-1/2 pence an ounce. deferred, that is ment to for the depositor. below the per the time required The result is of exchange tn,n tween London and to during This All other that our difference is into coin for pay- gold import point is a smaller iaour5,ola export point above the par it w Yore it costs difference the period for which payment is convert the gold bullion of exchange. differpntiel As be- about 4 cents on a pound sterling to move gold to this country and then back to London, but roughly the gold (after In Fnglend, as you know, the interest lost Bank to 98% of the aeemed and alloy charge which is still imposed). price than they cell et. equivalent of the Reserve in our gold practice and Tre eury is eethcrileci to pay cash up (excepting for the alight melting. and Under the law passed before resumption be taken to remedy it. the assay is concluded) at exactly the same the of a gold inlietion practice of our Treeeury Department value ce gold eeposited with the Assay Office and theoretically as this tendency the possible menace to the gold stead - a ,;rent diee.dventeee in in '79, Lhe Secretary of the pay a loser So long resulted. in buying markets ;chat some people This was a subject on which in'ormetion was exchanged, ue. The technical (3) temponry, and the Brink of France) . general uneasiness menace to but nothing cefinite Everybody the major exchanges hover at the point at which gold cen be Anerica, and be the ceuse of some markets: analysis °tossed by the unusual weight movements are in the last many of some sterling into dollars, leave large belances in London. this country (but to some extent by the continues and so extraordinary development movement of gold between the describe as the icapricioes" demands of exported 8.4.27 nearly two-thirds of this coot is represented Mr. Jay 4 byethe cot of exporting the gold and only about one-third by the cost of importing the gold. This is due partly to our identic.1 buying end selling price, and pertly to freislio charges which are higher going east than west. If we adopted a practice similar to that of the Bank of Eltglend, which we feel is legally possible, it would be more nearly as expensive (es an exchange operation) to -ove gold to away. this country as it is to teke it In other words the exchange would have to go somewhat below the present shipping point before gold could be sent to us profitably. bile it eppeers simple on the surface to alter this practice it nevertheless involves various technical difficulties and details and it is impossible s yet. to say whether our practice could be chenged so as to make it as expensive for Europe to ship gold to us as it is to take it away. (4) A possible method of temporarily arresting shipments of gold to this country so as to avoid the addition of the expense of moving it to Ne.w York and beck again to Europe) Just for discussion I suggested a scheme for handling gold which struck me as being capable of development as a temporary measure to operate for say a year or two until the outlook was clearer. In brief it was this: If the principal banks of issue would purchese gold when attempts were nade to withdraw it for export to the United States so that the intending exporter would realize exactly the some in dollars that he could get by shipping it to New York and it were assembled in one pool, we might then arrange to setke advances on it at very low rates of interest to each of the banks which lost to carry it for a time until it might be poseible the gold and for them to repurchase it without loss. Of course we could just es well buy the gold outright, but to CIO so would raise difficulties here, one of which is that if we purchased the gold outright we would furnish credit to our market exactly as though the gold were importee. In order to offset the securities and purcheses (and of advances as well) we voula be obliged to liquidate our thereby raise the old questions of earnings, etc. effect of large But even at a very low rate of interest for advances our earnings would likely be sufficient to minimise this argument against carrying the gold abroad and give us a much better earnings with the gold movement in position so as to temporize the hope that some day it will work itself out. The real ef- Mr. Jsy 5.4.27 lest would be to postpone heaving the gold come into this mouse trap where a cost of 4 cents or more per pound has to be made out of the exchange rate before we can before foreign banks of issue can buy it without heavy loss. Nothing has been done about the matter but it presents an interesting possibility and again later. export will be discussed It is understood, however, th t we will all endetvor to reduce or retard the physic 1 movement. The possibility that the return (5) to the gold standard and the necessary policies of the banks of issue in that connection may be responsible for the recent steady decline in the general price level: Of course no conclusion could be reached but the general feeling was that to some extent arguments could be advanced in support of this charge. Ify feeling hrs been that further price one of vital importance to banks of ehould have a good alibi. and if our friends in The only of this in Furope this issue issue and I am anxious th t we in this country alibi is a low discount ignore the Washington ere willing to upon our oolicies we may be able declines will make near in the .ould be to at least futture to prevent before long the establishment of lower rates rate by the reserve banks stock market as an establish the alibi. influence The reflex further advances in rates end even Justify than would be possible otherwise. This say prove to be their alibi. (6) Central bank policies as to the respective markets under present rates conditions: end relative levels o" interest in I think we all agreed that the dif- ferential between interest rates in New York and in London has been too slight to afford sufficient protection to European gold reserves in the face of the normal fall demands of buyers of our exports, tion the growing which will burden of debt arise r..s service. soon se our crops begin to move, not to men- This is particularly true this year when the rank of France has skimmed all of the loose doll r exchange and all of the free gold off of the markets so that the esual for use in the fall has not accumulation of been possible in London. both New York exchange end of gold 8.4.27 Mr. Jay 6 Host of the matters disceseed point very strongly to the necessity for doing what I had concluded sr a nece4er.ey even before Any of these gentlemen errived, Ahat. is to establish lower money rites are' a lover di scount rate in New York. I have been reedy and willing to attempt it whenever LI.:e time wee propitious, but the money market needed a 116tle attention first. By the time this letter reches you possibly even before it is disptched. matters will heve developed much further; This is the briefest possible sketch of the things we discussed and I .ending it to you for your oen perean-.1 use end Gilbertle, but with perticol.;.r sis injunction that it must ;,o no further. It will interest you to leLrn iR1b that our friends the Italians have been concerned about our meeting and seemed first to have thought tlet 4..ey had been . elie.ted. The Abessador has twice discussed it with me end I have explained that the meeting, was entirely fortuitous, being ooceeioned by my illness and that no me:.tere wiies tobe discussed And I exp.leined besides that which Italy was concerned. we rave no relations with the Bank of Ite.:ly and it would have been rather unue.ed, and possibly not very polite, for us to have invited them to seed a representative here to .L.sten to di cuseions of matters in which they had no direct interest. cetrse expre-sed less bluntly th.n bile di co..seion of Thir,, LIS of I have dictated it. reparation matters, e4ecially of the transfer problem, wets entirely a bi-product of the disc:le:Edon of central banking mAtere, it ie now impoe- sible for b. ny of us to here any vies se to the future of the exchanges or of the gold rldard or even of the policies of !-,e)efer problem. central banks without taking account of Ne none of us have any ee folly as you can. the wy they are handled. Best regerde to you ell. Faithfully your;., Mr. 5 Pierre Jay, Luiseostresse, P, rl in, Germany. great direct responsibility in the matter except (*we suffer from the consequences of developments and of Ag.in, please write this (see n. 7) e Mr. Jy 4. S. 8.4.27 As I had expected in dictating the above, our directors tothy reduced our Cliecount rate to 3-1/2%. The ease action ha.d been taken alre..dy by Boston but announcement was withhelo until our directors had acted, so that the reduction in both Boston and New York is published today. heretofore reduced. Kant:as City sand St. Louis had We rather expEct that Cleveland will follow suit. As to the others, - delgyed directors' mtiltings and some differences, of view may result in the 4%. rate bein m-Ant,,ined fors time, 'slid possibly permanently eh:es:here. we can rely upon our rate change for the accomplishment of the main purpof7e But 1.nd I am well content with the action taken. It is interesting in this connection :;o note th'it the c'4.bIe. which 'e have received during the past few d,.:ye indicate that had we deferred this action for few weeks ionizer we would prob:bly have had a 5-1/2% bank rate in %gland, September 6, 1927. Geer Picrre: Thank you for yours of Au.ust 27. Gilbert arrives: yesterday, He ,ut I 11168 rt Tuxedo visiting Mr. Baker and hive not yet eeen hia. is cxpect,-d in to-dcy -e shall have a good clack. Just a lino to comment on your euri about our G,-rman I chid not repeat in my firs-, lettor the subsiance of our colletgue. convureation atout reparations, but what I wrote in my second letter, which tent by mail, I think throws some light on hi8 attitude. He r.pros.red to tc impressed by whet I have siid, and I kiar from some of my friends in Ppris throuth Fraser tht.t it certainly Hid make cm( improsion on him. I hope it sticks. With teat rerr,rds to you %11 in 0-r1in. Faithfully yours, Mr. Pierre Jay, C/o The Transfer Committee, Berlin, Ge,rmary. ES/RAH October 8, My dear Castle: I hope you will be good enough to the enclot,ed envelope to Mr. Gilb.:;rt in the pouch. I to tnxioue that it should be 8:-fely 'aelivered rIthout rink of 1388 as it contEine conilruthtioo of our Vt...ti011b code meani-,. Tb,c.nklng you, I beg to remesin, Wiry truly yours, F.. Crkitle, A ssi stant Secretary of Stute, PPehington, U. C. BS/RAH ens. . November 10, 1927. It was fine to have your long letter of October 24, end you need not apologies as to the views expressed have made reservations and after ell, the problems t!ey were expressed, because, non© of them capable of They are all just aid to forming you are deeline with are by mathematically being dealt with or as to the way accurate formula. questions of human judgment and I find the greatest possible judgments is free exchange of views with such friends as you and Gilbert. There are a few eointa in your letter which I would like to mention epecifi celly (1) thile it was unfortunate that Moreeu could not come to our meeting, there were of course great no English and I notice strong tendency to drift into 11E. S culties with English arise. advantage in particular a Thie would have having Hint visitors to exrress vieee to me in the presence of all of situation and really knowledge of eavantages in having Hist. here was rrivately the others. Moreau speeks hrench when been unfortunate for me. in the which they diffi- The need fur each of the three were unwilling to express It was a peculiar and at times difficult worked out as satisfactory as it did because of the full English which all four of us enjoyed and the only language which we all spoke in common. (2) Of course I agree as to artificial steps which might be taken to facilitate transfers, but the word artificial, like every other edjective in the language, Introduces uncertainty more than it introduces definiteness. It can hardly be claimed that borrowing undertaken in for the promotion of transfers our market is an artificial measure any more than it can be claimed, or November 1.0, 1927. Mr. Pierre Jay. G. I should say, charged that such borrowing in our market is undertaken for the The really important question about these purpose of defeating transfers. °Sloane is to see that they are adequately controlled in Germany and are con- fined to those which are fundamentally good and which do not undermine the German economy but rather strengthen it, and I extend this observation to the point of saying that they may indeed undermine the Geemen .seonomy if they have the effect of enabling the German States or Otties to appropriate reven- ues for wasteful purposes which otherwise would be employed constructively and so reduce or avoid berro.eing. Any artificial element in the transaction will be that arising in Germany and not in our market, and in my opinion will be mainly due to lack of adequate control, for which Germany is in part re- eponeible, but for which the other creditor nations are also somewhat re- sponsible if they fail to intervene if they este evidence of tendencies which will defeat the plan. 1 gat eomewhat imnatient of the attitude altogether too common nowadays, and doubtless pertl v resul ting froar eupervi sion by the State Department, thrt in some trey or other ;American for the consequences of these loans to Germany. bankers are responsible The responsibility rests upon Germany, upon the German creditor netions, of which we are almost the ellest, and of course upon the Da-wed Organi (3; While of course it is encouraging to feel that the Beratemg- sstelle may be induced or compelled to function more serviceably, I regret the nette of pessimism as to this being promptly accomplished. the crux of the whole affair. It is really It would not surprise me to see our State Department entirely discontinue such slight supervision as has been exercised before very long. note has undoubtedly In thie connection, the publication of Gilbert's raised sufficient doubts so es to make the outlook for further German borrowing in this market quite ttee:etee' and the results are known. uncertain until some loan is Most of the Carman listed issues mold 3. VI.. hovember 10, 17. Pi erre jey. off slightly but very much less then wee to be expected. I imagine they have all been more or leee supported by the issuing houses. The one issue which 0 not only did not decline but ndvanced slightly Imes Rentennpnk bonds and those have always been highly regarded, but I do not think that you and Gilbert can overlook the feet, that the eublicetion of thin reamorendurs 1. likely to have somewhat the same consequencee es would hove the publication of his letter to the Finance ?Meister resulted from on the eubjece of the first Prussian loan, and it may be that German borrowinr; for P. time will have an up-hill rocky road to travel. Dr. Burgess will give you or Gilbert a report on the publicity anc I believe he f c sending ell the clippinge when they tr-ve been collected. (4) NO.; t..c to the trnefer problem. It in my reeollectioe of the figures on (Jemmy' e trade tor thin yeer (the figures Ere not before me) that the excess of imports over exports is composed of 1. n'ar meteri el o 1,7C.'.),C0',:',,10C marks Foodetuffs 3. 550,003,000 " Viecelleneous E.00dre chiefly manufacture& 1;00,000,000 thae reeking up the trade deficit of 3,000,000,000 mm rke for quarters of this calendar yeer. such articles d8 copper the firet threede They have largely increeeed their Imports of end cotton from thi e country. Ihi e mesns of course that Germany I. rebuilding the working cepital of goods which are eseentiel to the ultimate recovery of an export trade, Fine the bed trede figures of this year may not be as bad fundenientally ne they eppeer euperfl cit3ly, but only time will tell. But I still believe, Fe eteted in my earlier letter an in the eemorandum eent you a week ego, that the problem of transfers le bound to erica within eighteen months and that it is poesible tYtt tie test will now arise etrlier than that if this publicity restricte our market for Vr. Pierre Jay. 4 German eeeuritiee. November 10, 1927. whet you ray ebout the decline In the urge to export ie illureineting end may rrove to be a serious rector when the rest is over e. (5) You are quite correct. ment le ineleded ae r. pert of The $100 ,000 ,000 owing tc our Govern- the $8 5,000,000. 7 used the figures by way of contrast simrly to bring out that, while a billion done:re must he neid to our Government and investors evoh yesr, of this 8825.000,000 is theoretic- ally to be rrovided by Germany and failure to effect trenefers in behalf of Corwin reparations is bound to raise the question of trenefers to the United States both as a political matter and RES RD actual problem in the exchange market. (8) This pertly answers the first paragraph on your third page about the continuance of American investments in foreign securities, but it is only as to foreign securitiee as a whole that you may be right. In other words, if we and other lending markets, principally Great Britain, become concerned over German loans, our surplus savings for all other markets but Jemmy and then e.riee. tte transfer oroolem till certainly It wee for this reason that I had exereesed the hope thee too much publicity about German credit would not occur just and the investment may eo to unjuet alike. somewhat in our way (7) 1 now. It bite the just lie are probably in entire agreement and simply differ of expressing it. still think, and have no view, that yr; rill have rceeon to the cheap money market in anticipate any change and most of the rest of the world fairly deer money for some time to come, barring of course such special situations of have arisen in FrFnce, but even that money market is an artificial on© just now, and when etebilization becomes a fact, I would anticipate higher rates in France. (8) I wholly agree P.13 to Schacht's eolicy about the bank rate and I think I may have written you that I tobd him so when he was here. He o. vae too slow. Mr. Pierre Jay. November 10, 1V27. But, on the other hand, I rather disagree with the argument in Gilbert's letter of May n to Governor Norman, and when finial; reeding dithe papers which accompanied his letter I um k;clug to write him a tit about 0-le bank rate problem as we see it here. I think you were wrong about the ef- fect of our bank rate. The sentimental effect of our reducing rather then London advancing was good both in this country and in grope. tual effect 'As been to maintain e somewhat wider differential two markets and toarreet gold imports to a :loss of gold by Lonaon and of cooperation Liiia Gourii,ry. The ec- between the It aideu in arresting the evidence of the result of that eetion end between the banks of issue 1s shown in i.he fact thet we :lave sold another fifty millions of gold to France, we are eellieg fifteen millions to Poland, have shipped tnirty-one and a half without. to Argentine, are now shipping thirty-six and a half millions to Brazil, have cold a few millions to Belgium, and it is likely that no small part of this demand would have fallen upon London and to a wailer extent upon liolianci eau even Ewitterland had we cot reduced our rate, end of course had there been no understanding between the bankcs of issue. the change in the rate It is aty personal oplaior, that transferred some hunareda of millions of ahort-Lize financing from Luropean markets to the Lew fort market as well aa moving balances to London to tam:e edvantage of the hi -11 retee. As to your suggestion that this also may be an :artificial pozi Lion and that our rates later might be navencea arm .eurepe take care of itself by corresponding advances, i am not ready to actait that Chit is counu. Ab per cent rate in London and relative levels on the Continent would mean tact ell commercial and industrial borrowers abroad would be paying from 5 to C per cent or even more for accommodation, with tre exception of France. it would be a rather withering influence upon trade, not dimply tae interest cost, but the gene: al psychological effect of this diecouraging move. iiein- taining our market at present levels, if it can be safely done, is the best Mr. Pierre Jay. 8. way that we know of to maintain our export trade. November 10, 1927. We have excellent crops this year, prices are much higher, and we want to see the surplus sold in reign markets. Next January it will require a very slight manipulation of our investment account to insure the return of all of the holiday currency i881105 and still not force higher rates or promote artificially low rates. Eo far indeed the situation has worked out Ps rerfectly as I believe it Is noseible. (10) The last paragraph on page 4 expresses very much what I have said to Gilbert and what I believe I wrote you or him. I think Gilbert is the one to raise the question not only about transfers but about any sort of a settlement which must be made, if at all, in I em order to avoid a crisis. not looking forward with any comfort or satisfaction to the possibilities of any sort of it crisis, but this transfer problem is of a sort which usually cannot be solved without the influence or impact of come sort of a crisis. In fact I do not think that the French budget difficulty could have been solved at all had not the people of France been facing a catastrophe. This may be a similar situation involving all the important nations and I see no possibility of anticipatory action except through the intervention of Gilbert. Should he successfully intervene and some arrangement be effected to moderate transfers for a period of years, then we will never know whether a crisis would have arisen or not. But I believe in avoiding the risk if it can be done. I was amused by your introducing the quotation from Kiddy's article in the Evening Poet. It is exactly the statement that I made be- fore the Houee Committee at the stabilization hearings last summer and I suspect, as Kiddy tad shortly before received n copy of the testimony, that he may have gotten the he gets from Norman. notion from there. Moat of his notions Now end then he gets some from thi s side. 7. December 7, 1927. Dear Mr. Jay: On account of the hurry end excitement of last week your letter to sir. Strong of Hovember 13 did not get answered. Put Mr. Strong asked me to write you baying that he would reply to it as soon as he returned, snd that, in the meantime, Mr. MoGarrs.h and Mr. Harrison were reeding it and also the copies of newspaper articles enclose(. The latter are voluminous, ne you know, 'And ns our people have not finished with them, they have not yet been shown to Messrs. Young, Sterrett and Fraser, but this will e done as soon as possible. I have not heard from Mrs. Jay nor Louisa since they arrived. I hope they will call on ue be:ore they re!,er. It would be pleasant to see some of the Jaye main. I am vetr happy working for Mr. Strong. find a year ago I did not eApect co be so happy again, ever. I am so glad you refer to your present secretary as "ehe." Sincerely yours, Mr. Pierre Jay, 68 Lui eenstras Berlin, Germany. S.S. "Mauretania ", December 25, 1927. PflRSOrAL Dear Pierre: Your letter reached me at Campden Hill just before I left, and again it made me feel that I had been deprived of the enjoyment of such a welcome visit from you in London simply because we were engaged every minute of the time, even to the extent of putting in a full day at the Bank on 3unday. Since leaving, I have been kept fully posted about our Italian program by a series of wireless messages, and it now seems that all the banks of issue invited have joined in the credit and it has become a notable and impressive party. Cables from Rome and London are very definite that it has brought great rejoicing in Italy, and that is most desirable, as you realize, because final stabilization does dash some hopes on the one hand by the class which would benefit by a higher rate, just as on tho other by a large class which would benefit by a lower rate. I have just finished reading Gilbert's report and it is a splendid document, most dignified and restrained. I agree with you that it is desperately long, but hardly see how that could be avoided this time. I read the report rather critically, especially where it touched on Bank policy, and find but one place where possibly the "pundits" might cavil a bit. It is next to the last paragraph on page 103. I don't think the statement is accurate that the import of credit is equivalent to an import of gold or that it provides a lawful basis for expansion, except the bank of issue is operating upon a gold exchange standard and acquires the valuta proceeds of foreign loans. 2. Mr. Pierre Jay. December 25, 1927. Mr. Pierre Jay. 3. Ail rather uncertain. December 25, 1927. It is hard to believe that the amount of exchange has been very closely related to the differential in rates for bills between Berlin and New York. It seems to me much more likely that the curve of exchange rates is directly and possibly entirely associated with the volume of foreign borrowing by Germany and the rate at which valuta is converted into marks by the borrowers. I am not certain enough of this to more than suggest the possibility, because when there is so great a disparity in rates as exists between Perlin and New York on bankers' bills, a difference of ; of 11. or 1' even in the spread strikes me as likely a slight influence in the movement of bank funds. lve have had a fairly comfortable trip home, and I am dictating this letter on Christmas Day, which is beautiful and clear and smooth. The most important event on the ship so far was the arrival of two new passengers last night, in the shape of twins in the third cabin. Please give many good wishes to the family and my friends at Luisenetrasce, and certainly to Dr. Schacht, and my very beet to you as always. Sincerely yours, Mr. Pierre Jay, 33, Luisenstrasse, BS:11 Form 1256 to the account of Ch WEST CAB VICE DESIRED CLASS FM Rate Hell Res Deferred Cable Le. Week EndA. ter Patrons should mark an X opposite The mass of service desired; OTHER- WISE THE CABLEGRAM WILL BE TRANSMITTED AT FULL RATES. NEWCOMB CARLTON. PRESIOSNT UNION RAM Time Flied February 7, 1928. Jay 33 Luisenstraese Berlin, Germany Now up part of each day. number of Words GEORGE W. E. ATKINS, FIRST VICEPRESICIRArT nd the following Cablegram, subject to the terms on back hereof, which are hereby agreed to Thank you. Number Hope to go Atlantic City in ten days. Strong lot el Bright on, At March 2, S City, N. J., 192E3. Dear Pierre This is a very belated acknowledgment of your letter of November 3.3, explained, as you know, by the fact that I Inve been ill. It was not a very serious illness, but it came near enough to duplicating the one of a year ago t o mn la me pretty cautious, so I have been getting back t o work very His appointment has turned out to be in .'bout Youhg: every way id eal . It may be t hat some o f t he folks consult ed felt that his rather determined anal so:nett-es arbitrary scotch-Irish disposition would make difficult ies. I never feared tint. He is a strai.ght-shooter, and plays cricket according to the rules. As I told :!r. Mellon, while he 1rd much t o learn he could be counted upon to learn it anti to k--ret commend of the s ituat ion just as rapidly as ho di:1. acquire the necessary knowledge. This has proven to be more than true. '.7hen he doesn't know a thirE. or is uncertain, he frankly says so, and until he does know he mkes tio bluff or yretenee of knowing. The result of this is mrfeetly obvious in t ho fact tInt he has already gained the moral and intellectual control of the Board such as no other governor has ever Ind. He has Mr. Mellon's entire conf i<7 en co, and all who have intimate relation with the 7loard's affairs conraent enthusiastically upon the revolutionary change that has taken place. He made an immense sacrifice to do this, cut tire his Income in half. But ho says that it is really his wife 1,0-io made the sacrifice end he hope s to nnk_e it up t 0 he r later. The feet is tha t he is a fine gallant .fellow who deserves our support and is bound to get it. So much for that question raised b:7 your letter. 3/2/38. ier re Jay niucla interested in the second page of your letter. As for i.;chacht, you fellows are mi{:hty lucky to have him in that pos it ion. I have a great deal cf confidence indeed that he will stand by his runs for sound principles but, of c ourse, there are many occasions when he will be seriously embarrassed between loyalty to the plan and public opinion at home. I was rather disturbed this morning to see a newspaper article ialiwtine t het efforts would be made to repeal the tax of 10 per gent. Imposed upon foreign loans, which is the basis of control exercised by the _Teich. If t hat should go and nothing effective be albstituted it might mean t rouble. There is no doubt that the publicity resulting from r.ilbertts statement aril the annual report hatl had a far-reaching effect upon 1r)ans in this country. :Ty absence has prevented my getting a reliable report on the success of the two issues which have been attempted since then, but at the first I heard that it was not very successful. :his seems to be almost unnecessary as a news letter, because 1111 I ern :7cCarrah sails t o-day , e n a you will get eve Ty th ing di directly from him. ?ut at Isnot I can send you direct word that I am very much improved an d hope to be book at work on part -time very shortly. (.then I want especially to thank you for sendirc me the clippings. ith best regards t o you all, Sincerely yours, Mr. Pierre JEw, 33 Luisenstrasse, Berlin, Ge many. 4 p 7/ashington, D. C., March 26, 1928. III Dear Pierre: This is really my first opportunity to !rive any consideration to your letter of February 27 end mmny others like it, although I did roc it when it arrived end am really writing now at the very first opportunity. First, about myself. You will have heard all the news from McCerrah. I am about well attain, although still a little weak, and have to go rather slowly in resumine work at the bank. There has been a multitude of arraneements neces- sary in connection with my plan to t et away thi7 sumer, but it now boils down to a hope that I shall sail May 5. The Governors' conference occurs on April 30. It will be an important one, and I must be here to attend. earlier in the year is not suitable. Besides that, the weather I shall go directly to Paris for a short stay and then eossibly to the south of rrance to Beau Vallon, which is between Toulon end San Pefael. It is very quiet but delightful at that season. my friends have eromised to visit me there. After a few weeks there I hope to do the same thing at "vim where T steyed two years ego with Mr. Thllon. I shill feel eeunl to traveltn ho I feel. Sane of Possibly, to ?ems before going to Milan, bue it depends upon TIvian is favorably situated for some of our other friends to visit, and from there I would hone to po at least to Berlin, to 7arsaw if possible, thence back aeain, stoeptne possibly at Ameterdam and Brussels and so to Landon. Another visit to 7)-ris would depend upon developments. I do not feel equal to making an extended trip through Middle Marone, nor would time permit if, as I anticipate, Phil is to be married late in August. This will give you a rough idea of the project, all depending, of course, upon What happens between now and then and how I feel. I was much interested to learn of Nancy's engagement. home for a wedding, unless you propose to have it in Berlin. This may brine you What are the cheaces? All that you write about financial and fiscal matters is most interest'ng Mr. Pierre' Jay inked. 2 - 3/26/28 I am so glad to have these first ;and pictures of how matters are going. I shall show your letter to Mr. Case and Mr. Harrison. Your handwritten, confidential postscript and the enclosures I rend with keen interest. Gilbert's memorandum strikes mo as a statesmanlike, finds docurent. These questions will only be satisfactorily settled as the result of a strop; leadership by someone who has a definite clean-cut theory to work on, and certainly Gilbert's talents run in just the direction needed in this very difficult reparation problem. I shall write him separately aloe% tho memorandum, Which he also sent me, and you will get another batch of letters from me which go at the some time to Shepard Morgan. Now, a word about things over here. speculation, as you notice, We have been having a rampage of At the same time that we have experienced very heavy exports of gold, a considerable portion being out of bank resetves and not earmerked gold, and we have also sold 150,000,000 of Government securities. borrowings from the Systen are nor over 500,000,000, but, unfortunately, the lode- stone of the stock TerChance seems to have drawn enough funds the banks pretty well out of debt to us. ]`erher bank to hew York to keep It looks az though We meld have to do some hard sledding and possibly put the screws ei quite a bit tighter. Por a time after the turn of the year when we were exporting eold and selling securities, and when we ,ut our bank rate up, the volume of credit shoved a tendency to decline, but in the last two or three weeks it started going up again, so I am dictating this letter on the train going to 'lashington where we should have a meeting to discuss the situation to-morrow. The outstanding dovelo1x.ont in certain respects lies in the export of a crtain amount of gold as an exchange traneaction. 71en nne considers that this is in face of a favorable trade balance of 4,:600,000,000 last year and without any very great business recession, I think the conclusion is inevitable the t eo (.:.re lending more money to the rest of the world than they need for trade purposes. Pert of the loans are boinr used in the stock market, and a part in buyini . 3 - Pierre Jay gold. ef2f1 /38 I hope we are not forced to go still hither with our discount rate, especially 116in a year surcharged with politics nad at a time when there has vadoubtedly been some business hesitation. The position of the oreign exchanges is no such, however, that some pressure on money rates is much safer from an internetional point of view than at any time in the last two or three years, I was called before the House Banking and Currency Committee arsin to discuss the eleventh revision of the sixth revision of Congressmen Stronelo bill to stabilize prices. Confi'entially, there is quite a joke about that. He got very discouraged at the attitude of the Reserve System and. thought es were rather stubbornly oeposiag his plans. It resulted in a situation whets I finally drew the bill for him, very different from the one which ho had_ introduced. 'Then I had it completed I was obliged to tell him that I did not approve it in all particulars, but that it expressed views which eliminated some very fundamental objections which had not been discussed; brt that I could not suonort the bill as the attitude of the System to the bill would be detennined by the Tederal Reserve Board. time of my appearance Governor Young wee present and was called first. At the He said that he was no' very well acquaented with this subject, so Dr. Miller and Mr. Goldenmeiser would appear later in the Board's behalf. One of the members of the coeudttee naked him if the Board favored the bill, and he replied thee the Board was opposed to it. That was all that he said. I was called next and tried to make an impartial statement about the bill, weighing the various considerations raised by the bill without commiting myself as being in favor or against it, but nevertheless, rather strongly emmhasized' some of the objections. After the hearing, ehieh only took about an hour and a half, everyone in the room was convinced that my statement had killed the bill with the committee. So here is a oase whero I have had the curious easerience of drawing l for Congressman Strew! and then killing it in the committee. Of course, this expresses it rather broadly, but it is what happened and could not be avoided. I *far a similar fate is in store for Senator LeFollettels bill proposing to deal with stock term Jay - 4 - 3/26/28 S spe culat ion. I can send you little news from tho bank as I have only boon them twice since roturninr from Thiropc to attend irroortant directors' mo.:tince, and all the work ma doing; has either b^ r. up-tmm or in Thdhtneton. trip I will try md t more in touch with what is goinf!, on. Best rerards to you all in Berlin. Sincerely yours, Mr. Pierre Jay, 33 Luisenstrnsso, Berlin, Germany. en rerftnine from this Grand Hotel, Grasse, June 4, 1928. PERSONAL Dear Pierre: Your letter and the siiipl*ent dated May 18th and May 20th were t;7",.=. ,444161,catby Wig4lesworth in Fa.tis, and I would send you something like a 1$1,6KAti-..CiiiPtatV140174W40.4411i0 I not determined upon loafing for a time before attempting any mail of consequence. It is not so much that T am not able to do a bit of work, but this last complication that I onccuntered has made it desirable for me to use my eyes rather sparingly, and I want to go another week or two before doing very much reading. You can appreciate what a deprivation this is. Dr. Stewart and Norman met me at Cherbourg on arrival there, and I stayed over two days for a visit with them, and then motored to Paris, taking two days for the trip. In Paris I had some nice visits with the fficers of the Bank of France, and by good fortune Gilbert was there at the ame time that Jack Reynolds turned up and I have rarely had no satisfactory visit with Gilbert as I did then. Ho certainly is In good form, nnd the can be said of Grandma without reserve. After about a week in Paris I motored down here, selecting Grasse ez; the advice of Dr. Rist, brother of our friend in the Bank of France, and s was a lovely drive. 7e took three days to make it, and I felt bettor arrival than when I left Paris. Despite prophecies to the contrary, and I believe largely due to riends in Paris, we have so far escaped a lot of newspaper nonsense. will probably sur;xise you. 2. Mr. Pierre Jay. 6/4/28. Just now Cecil Lubbock is here with me, and as I have kept the ga' motor, we are covering the country about here, lunching at different places and enjoying it immensely. My plan is to stay here during June, and as it gets rather hot after that, I shall ppbably go to Evian for July and sail for home on August let, as MA's wedding will take place the and of August or early September. I shall miss him greatly. I do hope you can arrange a visit before I return. Understand- ing that you have become a great traveler, you might feel like running up to Evian. I would certainly go to Berlin, wore it not that I um advised to reduce traveling about to a minimum. I expect quite a number of visitors at Evian, but we can fit it in some way, and by that time I will be equal to a party. Please give my best to all the folks at Luisenstracne, and the same to your goodself. Affectionately yours, Mr. Pierre Jay, 33, Luisenstrasse, BERLIN. B!,:M ON BOARD S.S``MAJESTIC". CL-1,t aJ Cti4 f VaLAfit- "Q) LL 7z-tf-e) I 1 I Fr ON BOARD S.S!'MAJESTIC': (h,t edit;t.4 ' qrL IND IPA L,/-1/4:2Lt___ 7;w a 404(- itArek_ 59--tile--12-1-0( 14r7,-.---tr-4., /7) ct--5 COPY of longhand note from Jay to Gov. Strong ON BOARD S. S. "MAJESTIC" January 2, 1927 Dear Ben, I have been through an extaordinary experience these last two weeks and though you have been absent throughout, yet at every one of the occasions which has gone to make up the experience you have spoken by telegram or letter and have thus taken part in the occasion. Your letter at the first dinner, your telegram at the second, your telegram to the steamer were all very much appreciated, as I wrote you about the first mentioned. The greatest surprise of all was on Friday when I lunched with the Officers' Council and Harrison handed me from you the gold cigarette case with an inscription inside that I value fully as much as,if not a great deal more than, the case itself. What with the ivory humidor, the lovely gold watch and knife, your gold cigarette case, and a wonderful brocade dressing gown from the teachers at the Brearley, King Solomon will have nothing on me as I enter Berlin. With these things and the talk that has gone on, beginning with your newspaper interview, any shred of the modesty you pinned on me have gone out of the window, and I can strut lying down. Even at the Christmas party of the F. R. Club, which by the way was a very successful one, tho' lacking the spontaneity and personal element of last year's, I received a Well, I only hope I may parchment scroll with nice things engraved on it. get down to earth when I reach Berlin! But, really, however undeserved many of the statements of fact are, they have made a very happy ending of my association with you and with all the people who go to make up the Bank, They have shown that something of what I have felt for you and for the Bank has been felt for me in return, and that, of course, makes me feel very happy. The spirit of the Bank is wonderful -- there is no place like it -- and you have made it for all of us; and if you ever leave it, which as you know I hope you never will, you will get a blast which will blow you clean out of the water! As to the gold case you sent me, that is something I never aspired to and it pleases me greatly to have it. I shall get lots of solid enjoyment from it and from the familiar script inside, and I thank you a thousand times for it. Nelson Perkins and family are on board, and I'm getting lots of background from him. I hated to go off with the Chairmanship still unsettled, but believe it was well to have it go over till all salary questions were out of the way. Then it By this time, it may be decided, but at any rate Harrison can be calmly discussed. is with you and you know all there is to know. I expect to be in London in the first part of Feb. and shall be hearing from Njorman] all about you, which I hope will be all good. With my affectionate regards and hopes for your complete recovery. Yrs., P. J. wit THE TRANSFER COMMITTEE LE COMITE DES TRANSFERTS BERLIN 33 LUISE NSTRAS SE TELEPHONE: NORDEN 11900-11910 TELEGRAMS: AGENTREP, BERLIN PARIS 18 RUE DE TILSITT TELA PHONE: WAGRAM 2L22,-2L25 TELE GRAMMES: REPADENT, PARIS BERLIN parch 8, 1927. Benjamin Strong, Esq., Stuyvesant Road, Eiltmore Forest, EILTMORE. N.C. Dear Pen, Just as I was hearing about you from Forman, who was here last week, came your letter of February 14th, which indicated to me that you were getting back on the map again, because you evidently have A secretary, awl car thus let off without too much effort a little of that ever flowing current of spirits, intellectual, human and otherwise, which even in your sickest moments never seems to stagnate. I had been frankly a good deal disturbed by the preceding longhand letter which you had written to me, in which you spoke of your nerves being so shot to pieces as a result of your illness, but your typewritten letter speaking of returning to the bank by early April, and what Norman told me of his visit to you, were very reassuring. It is true he adrrTTted that Tou were nervous, but then you always are a hit nervous, and he reported you as being in pretty satisfactory shape for one who has gone through such s siege. He came here fresh from Paris and reported that Moreau had recently received a good letter from you in which you spoke of coming over here again this summer, with the idea, I suppose, of helping to "finish the job", to use an expression of our Victory Loan. As far as the job is concerned, I think everyone over here is agreed that as far as stabilisation goes/1927 is likely to be a blank. The time for it in France was last summer when you were over there. Rut that moment pasE.4 and what, with the attitude of the French Government, and the big rise from Amsterdam erd elsewhere, the French have gotten specuilatiot o for the time being into a very very strong position. Consequently, stabilisation is out of fashion for the moment, and as long as Congress is adjourned till December, and the Debt Funding Commission has dissolved, it seers quite unlikely that Foincare'will even think about debts until the very end of this Meantime the French are postponing gradually their floating debt, and year. expect by the end of the year to have it all on at least a one year basis, possibly some of it on an even longer Iesis. Mearti4-TFather that Italy is not likely to make any move independently of France. All of this is of course disappointing, but I believe it reflects accurately the present prospects. 2 Since the foregoing was dictated ter Meulen has been in and expressed the view that the French will not be likely to trike up stabilization until the middle of 1928, after their periodical elections. There are also elections in Germany in 1929. They come towards the end of the year, but might very likely be anticipated by a few months! so, oil things considered, it looks like a quiet time ahead with regard to all of the thin; s thit are brewing, unless soncthire unforesen should turr. up. During the past three weeks we have been through an interesting cycle. The Finance Minister, in presenting his budget, abeet which he was quite pessimistic, and rightly so, expressed serious doubt about the ability of Germany You doubtless saw t'-is comment in the to meet the increasing Dawes payments. Of course, the Nationalist papers here took the cue at once Americen papers. and vociferously agreed with the !:inisterts statement. The New York papers attached great imeortnnce to it, and the Nationalist papers attempted to assert that this was propaganda of the Agent General. The French papers took little notice of the statement however, and the ether Gerner papers did not eon ,ent very fully upon the incident. Forever, notice was evidently taker of it by the authorities here in Germany, and inside of two or three days the Finsr.ce Minister gave a statement to the associated Press in which he said that the sentence casting doubt on Gerneny's ability to pay should be read in connection with his statement that it was the Treasury polier loyally to endeavour to carry the Dawes obligations. I met the nnieter out at lurch last and he brought Ile subject up, saying that he could not ur,lerstPnd why ,o 1-r?. '-cer made of his remark in the papers, that of course he was for the policy of fulfilment, and had recently given an interview to the "New York 7orld" which made this clear. Indications hRee cone from various sources the+ the Thole question of fulfilment has been thoroughly discussed again in authoritative circles, and an unequivocal attitude has been reassumed looking- towards fulfilment. So that the incident, -Mich did rct look very mood at the tine, has had the result of hrireinc the new administration face to face wit' the subject early in its existence, and I think the remark is to be considered as halving been a blessing in dis guise. The budget is suite an unsatisfactory one. It can only he balanced by borrowing some 500 million mar.:1s: it cortefrs a lot of unnecessary erants and wItsiflies1 it does not derl with perhaps 200 or 300 million marks of unennloyment payments which must be made: it includes as income 190 million marks seignorage on minting coins already redundant! a settlemeet of the t'lxPtion prol-lem hetween the Reich or one side and the States are' Communes on the other is definitely postponed for one year, with the possibility of two years. It looks to me, in view of the existing unemployment, as i' they went too far last yeer in reducing taxation. Except for coal, production seems to he keeping up at a high rate, and the movement of freight is eery heavy, ever heavier than at this time last year, notwithstanding the felline off in coal. Imports are increasing quite one of Vee items being cereals, to ,el:e ur for the crop ehortage last summer. Our Leone Lic Service estimates that in the first half cf 1927 Germany rill have to import 300 million mrks more of cereals than last year. - 3 - Fir Tit?' regard to the total belence of irede the situation is not so clear, because foreign loans are seldom being made just nt present, end this fact, together with the money ease here, and the placing of e good deal of Cermet, money abroad for a temporery or longer investment led to a great outflow of Devisen between the middle of January end the end of February, and about 400 This seount represents just shout the gain in millions in all flowed out. In the lest fortnight, Devisen between September and the end of the year. end it looks hardened quite 0 particularly over the end of the month, money The bankp bell to as theueh it would not return to its former low level. come into the Reiellshenk for somethire over SOO millions st the end of February, one of tle lightest of the months, and Schacht has been taking thee to task for it, with the result that there was a meeting of +he Cleering House a day or two Just what was ego to discuss the situation and arrive at some understanding. Of course, there is an immense amount of money done I have not yet heard. used in stock speculation here, and after the tremendous rise ir1226 in the stork market, stocks went up on the average About 35 points more during the I know nothine eheut the comrenies or the first six weeks of this year. values, but German bankers all say that generally speaking stocks here are at levels. absurd In the Unemployment seems to me likely to be a lone job in. Germany. first place, there are 371 million more people in industry, or in employment eeneeelly,than before the war: second, there are a lot of refugees from the territories which Cerman lost! and third, and most isuortant, there is the constant attrition of the rationalization plane which is constantly spreading The other and is likely to become more and more intense as the years go on. night I sat next to Ileinbardt, head of the Osram 'arks, whom I sew pailfe a little I asked him how his programme of economy was getting on. He of here in 1924. said that in 1924 when I was with him he had 23,000 workpeoole erel t '-et now he Of course this is exceptional, had only 10,000 and was getting 205 more output. being an industry that lends itself peculiarly to oreerisation of labour- saving "tut", said Yeinhardt,"our payroll}as decreased very little". machinery. It looks as though there would he quite a general increase in wages Rents are to go up 1070 on epril 1st, and another log on October this string. The raising of weges will douhtic This in itself is bound to raise wages. 1st. movement, but of course it should still further stimu' ate the rationalisation increase consuming power on telerce. As to my own job there seems to be a good deal of reading to be done in it in keeping up with the current affairs in Germnry, and to some extent in What with that and going out a good tit at night, and tekine German Europe. lessons in the morning, I do no seem to have much leisure time for writing letters I have however been reading some of "The Charterhouse of Parma" or reading. which you sent me for Christmas, and which arrived a few *seeks ago, and I em It is such an I wonder how you happened to hear of it. enjoying it greatly. written and translated in such a delightful style. unusual kind of took, and both I an greatly obliged to you for it, and as for the cieerette case, it is an hourly satisfaction. Your friends here, as well as in Paris where I spent a week, and in Frussels where I spent e clay, heee asked anxiously after you, and I have been I think, however, from delighted to he able to give them optimistic reports. whet Norman told me, and from your own letter, that you will have to count on 040 -4 - going at half seeed for a while after you return to the office, end hope you will be able to readjust yourself accordingly. Witt, regard to your proposed trip to Europe this summer, I must say that I cannot help questioning it both from the point of view of your health and from the point of view of the bank. I mention the har': on account of the really serious feeling which developed in New York, and I think to some extent in Tashington, about your long absence ahrovi last bummer. You probably weren't back lone enough before you fell ill to sense this feeling. At any rate, it probably wouldn't be very fully expressed to your fore. Put in view of the fact that there isn't any stabilisation programme in sight this year, there would seem to be no necessity for your coming over, and it would seem to me to be ar excellent summer from every point of view for you to be at home and perhaps let Harrison do what travelling over here may seem desirable. He coullFo about without creating any publicity or comment, and keep you posted on everythin that is going on, and you could always be in readiness to come over if necessity arose, and you will doubtless aFree that it would he very developing for Harrison to make a round of visits, and inform himself at first hand of the situation in the various European capitals. There is another point of view which I mention with some hesitation, namely that, as you were over here so long last summer, and talked with. so many people about stabilisation, your presence here aevin this summer, particularly in France where the Government attitude is all seeinst stabilisation, might possible be regarded as an effort to stir up stabilisation again. I em sure, however, you will take all this in the spirit in which it is meant. Speaking about the office naturally brings me to the subject of Chairmanship, and I hope most sincerely that you feel entirely happy about it. All the letters I have had indicate this is the case. From the point of view of the public it is better than your original suggestion, although internally the contribution will not be so important, 1-ut personally feel very happy about it, and I only hope that you do. Also that yea do not mind the change in tle Chairmanship of the Executive Committee, which after ell is only a logical thing. I had an extremely nice letter from Owin Young the other day on the whole subject, and em looking forward greatly to seeing ncGarrah, who, I believe, sails tomorrow. My family are gettirg over here in detachments. No. 3 arrived in early February, and we have beer keeping house toFeth.e. Po. 2 arrives in France a fortnight ago, and is now touring southern Europe with three college No. 4, with Loulie, are due to.errive at Hamburg on Sunday. class-mates. I shall be very glad to pet them all toe:ebbe:- here. We have a furnished apartment till October 1st about three doors from where Sterrett lived, about a hlok off the Tiergerten. However interesting it may be, it seems very queer to he tackling an entirely new job, in a foreign country, and in entirely strange surroundings, and I miss greatly my long and daily association with you and with the other officers of the bank, where I felt so much at home in every phase of the work. The more I look hack or it all, the .more wonderful end happy an experience those twelve years seem to he. I only hope they will continue to he so for you for many years to come. Hopirg most earnestly that your expectation will 1-'e realised, and that you will be vial' erougy.to get back to the bank early in April, and with my best regardshv 'vivo.. I am, Fai / D THE TRANSFER COMMITTEE LE COMITE DES TRANSFERTS PARIS 18 RUE DE TILSITT BERLIN 33 LITISENSTRASSE iisoTELEPHONE:NORDEN 11900-11910 TELEGRAMS: AOENTREP, 13ERLIN TELEPHONE:WAGRAM 2E22-2125 TELEGRAMMES:FtEPACIENT, PARIS BERLIN, J11.21/3 22, 1997 ONFIDE.\TILL. Dear Ben: Your letter of March 26th reached me at Easter time and I have had it in mind to write you a decent letter in reply but the fact is that immediately after Easter I began to work on the aeport, which has just come out, and have refrained from writing any letters or doing anything else except the work on the Report, save for cases of absolute necessity. I was delighted with the tone of your letter, particularly as it related to yourself, and the news I have since heard from Case, and others, all seems to bear out your gradual and steady return to health and activity. I am sure that nothing will be more tonic for you than getting back on the job. Indeed, when I was in Paris last week IA)reau told me he was getting daily telegrams from you and thus I see that although you are not over here you are keeping your fingers pretty closely on the European pulse and that, I am sure, is the best kind of an after cure for you. I was interested in the third paragraph of your letter of March 26th with regard to the tendency of foreign central banks to invest so freely in our markets. This subject was discussed quite a bit at our Directors meetings last November and December and of course is a matter of -2 - first-rate importance. Doubtless you will be able to discuss it quite effectively at the forthcoming conference with London, Paris and Berlin which is about to take place in New York. I only learned of this con- ference last week while in Paris and want to tell you how opportune it seems me. First, that the conference was to be held, and, second, that it was to be held in the United States. Particularly in view of the in- volvement of the Reserve System in the proposed central banking arrangements between London and Paris, it is important that our Directors and the Reserve Board, and the officers of the other Reserve Banks, ail of whom may have to become involved in these transactions, should have personal contact with the Muropean central bankers interested and should learn from them at firsthand of the situation rather than that you alone should take the responsibility of explaining the situation at the American end. It will be a great relief to you, and I am sure a great satisfaction to the others at home, to be aole to talk about these things face-to-face with the Muropean principals. Further- more, there is the attitude, several times expressed in our Board of Directors during 1926, that when illurope has something it wants of America the natural place to discuss it and negotiate it is in America. In connection with this forthcoming meeting it has occurred to me that in case the subject of reparations should come up you would like to be posted on the latest developments in regard to the functioning of the Dawes Plan, that is why I am going to write you fully and frankly, and confidentially, what may prove to be a pretty long letter. - 3 - (1) Attitude of Germany. As I wrote you in my letter of March 8th, the Finance Minister's remark in his February budget speech that he did not see how even with the best of good will Germany could find the money for the increasing payments under the Dawes Plan started active discussion of the subject in Parliament and in the press. This discussion continued right up to the faster recess when the budget was finally adopted and Parliament adjourned for awhile. When the budget was being finally discussed early in April a leader of the Center Party made a long statement about the unbearableness of the Dawes burden, and as is customary here the floor leaders of each of the other Parties followed with a statement on the same subject. This came pretty close to be- ing a consensus of all Parties, but too much significance should not be attached to it as once the question was raised no Party would want to be off the bandwagon in decrying the Plan. There was some suggestion that under the circum- stances the German Government should make an official statement, reaffirming its position on the matter which, by the way, it had done privately to Gilbert in February after the Finance ianister's speech. The German Government, how- ever, considered it inadvisable for reasons of internal politics to make such a statement at the time but on May 2nd the Finance Minister made a long speech before the Association of Berlin Merchants and Industrialists on the budget question which was very good as far as it went, and in which he said of the Dawes Plan: "I have reason to believe that nobody in authoritative circles doubts the loyalty of the Government of the Reich". Officially, then, the German Government is entirely loyal and all payments are made promptly. On the other hand, the fact that the Plan is beinP ful- filled does not seem to prevent individuals in or near the Government from - 4 - 0 critically discussing the Plan and its effects on the German economy. The public and the newspapers continue to discuss the subject freely. (2) The Budget Situation. The budget for the present financial year, ending March 31, 1928, includes the first five months of the fourth Annuity year La which tha Annuity increases considerably, largely out of the funds provided from the German budget. It is discussed very fully in the Report of June 10, 1927, but I think it may be useful for me at this point to insert the following table from page 25 of the Report, from which you will see that the big jump of 750 million marks in the budget contribution between the fourth and fifth Annuity years is, when translated into terms of budget years, spread over two years, so that the incidence of these payments on the German budget is not nearly so abrupt as it appears to be under the Plan itself: Annuity years, ending August 31st Budget con- :Transport Tax tribution Contributions from proper (1) the German Budget :(in millions of gold : : : : : : Budget years, endi March 31st : : : marks) : 1929-30 1.250 (1) Subject to increase from 1929-30 onward, depending on tha ind of prosperity described in the Plan. 5 lit On the other hand, early in December, 1927, the Finance Minister must submit to the Reichsrat the budget for the financial year 1928-29 in which the total budgetary contribution will increase about 400 million marks and will start the discussion going again. As you know, there was considerable difficulty in balancing the 1927-28 budget, and loans of 466 millions had to be authorized. The question of balancing the 1928-29 budget with its in- creased reparation charge will be interesting to say the least, but if labor conditions continue to improve and the Minister is rigid about expenditures, it should not prove too difficult. I was very glad to see from your letter of March 26th that you agreed with me that it would be a shortsighted policy for Germany to attempt to agitate so far in advance for a revision of the Plan. I am sure that her best course lies in going straight ahead and making her payments and not crying until she is really hurt. She will get much more sympathy in my opinion by pursuing such a course, and than if she has shown evidence of conducting her affairs with reasonable prudence (which you will note from the recent Re- port is not yet proved) and under these conditions finds it extremely difficult to make her payments, that would be a good basis for asking for a revision. But the recent wide-spread discussions have raised a big question mark on the subject through ilurope and have certainly tended to impede negotiations with France on evacuation and other problems. (3) Reichsbank Policy. Perhaps one hardly needs to read between the lines of the last Report to",pee that one of the factors in the Reichsbank policy in recent months has been the evident desire to make the situation not too favorable for the execution of the Dawes Plan. Indeed Schacht, who, as you know, is quite mer- curial, practically admits that much. In order that you may not have the trouble of looking for it in the Report I quote here a paragraph from Schacht's - 6 - 410 testimony before the German conomc Inquiry last auumn, which is reproduced on page 64 of the Report: hese stocks of devisen which the foreign credits bring into the country at present accumulate at the Reichsbank to an axteat which is far too great for We do not need the cover of our note circulation. Consequently if I were to be asked by this cover. the ALTent General for Reparation PaymentsCan you now produce devisen for transfer purposes'?, I could cannot stand it'. Itsay would possible me Germanforcurrency to not him be The only answer yes. The German currency would remain intact even though a great part of the devisen of the Reichsbank were to be withdrawn The position therefore is that at the moment we are making display of a capacity not only to pay but to transfer which must in the natural course diminish and totally disappear at the moment when the position is reversed and we The capacity to have the other side of the medal. transfer which at present dispay will beyond doubt have ceased to exist after a certain time. As make interest and however we shall then have also redemption foreign payments borrowings, the are creating an advantage for a oday at the cost of a private re". tors there were which induced him to keep h and partly thereby to lose in a few months n, there is no doubt that the loss gave him of view that it reduced the facility of mak- p feeling that he may be a bit imbued with the nd the public man already referred to who do not good in Germany for fear it will help the execu- ther hand, the President of the Reichsbahk, in ifically enjoined to cooperate in the execution words: nt and the (Reichs) bank shall undern every reasonable way within their he (Transfer) Committee in making http://fraser.stlouisfed.org/ Federal Reserve Banktransfers of St. Louis 7 - of funds, including such steps as will aid in - 8 is the only Power which has any such attitude. I think Norman has as lip little of this as any one, but, as you know, he is very fond of Schacht and may be a bit inclined to take his point of view in such matters instead of advising him for the more straight out course which I have discussed in Paragraph 3. I add this Paragraph, . 4, merely to give you a little of the background and atmosphere. (5) Elections. Parliamentary elections occur in both France and Germany in 1928 and their influence on talk about the Dawes Plan in both countries cannot be overlooked. Zven Reinhold, who was Germany's Finance Unister for most of 1926 and until the end of January 1927, with whom Gilbert's relations were of a very understanding nature, is now making speeches, in anticipation of next year's election, in which he decries the Dawes Plan. It is going to be as popular a thing to talk against as the railroads and trusts used to be in our _ elections at home, but there is no indication whatever that it will be an issue in the elections. (6) Conditions in Germano. These are covered pretty fully in the Report, of which you have received a copy by this time. The one condition which is disquieting at the moment is the steady import balance which in the past seven months has aggregated about 1,800,000 marks. On the basis of the seasonal movement in exports before the war the last six months of the year should show a rising volume of exports. Particularly should this be true in 1927 after the great increase in imports of raw materials of the last six months. Also, should the German harvests be normal we should see a falling off in the imports of foodstuffs, which have been unusually high in the past nine months owing to last year's poor harvests. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org/I regret Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 9 greatly not having a chance to have had a good talk with Berliner Tngeblett. June 3, 1e2Y. dillaserie A YEAR OF /NVESTIG^.TION INTO Tn. "T "T^ irnmss. The Inetitut f r Konjunhturforschung publishes to-day the first of its quarterly publications for this year on the investigetion into the state of business. It confires that the hesitating upward movement reported in the lent tinue' it a more rapid rate. point e Teich has volx.ie con- 'economic activity" has reached 'ready led to a certain amount of friction any' ieeications of tension, which are characteristic of a phase of recovery eperoechine maximum tension." It cannot, however, be stetec' with certainty :ellen economic life will cater this phase, "p .rticulerly as the durattdon of the individual phases cannot be calculated at present. ' relaxation of tension might 1 even occur next." It is rightly declared that the reaction on the Bourse Jo in no way the signal for a decline to in beeinees life. sentence is added: .2 anticipated Curiously enough, however, the following "The weakenine of stock quotations is pro- bably rather a result just of the greater productive activity and merchandise trade." Further, it is stated test tie Carmen econoley hec att,inee almost everywhere greater conoolidation since 1925. The reconstruction of mobile capital is seeken of with a sort sin eeount of justice. irogreseive improvenant is notice- able also on the merchandise oide. Production, employment and turnovers have greatly increased particularly in the pet few months. June 20, 1927. AP' Accordine to the Be in newspapers this afternoon, the French Prime 7inister, M. Poincare, spoke yesterday at Lunoville upon the occasion of the dedication of F. W17 monument. The Prive :A.nister reviewed the reletions between Frence erd Germany since 1915 and then stated that France had offered her hand to Germany on condition that no attempt be neei e to deprive France demended was the her the fruits of her victory. security of her boundaries and thereparation payeente to 'Which she was enbitled. But 'dale there wao a spirit of reconciliation on the art of France, the same could not be said of Germany. For instance; Germany still neinteined a battleship celled the "eUsass . Toreover on 7ovenber 1 and 3 1925 important member the German Cabinet had declared that Ger- renunciation of armed force was dictated merely by the hat She had no lonner any armed force at her disposal. rlin Government must not believe thnt s-ach interpretetion Locarno Agreements corresponded the ideasin of France. dther hand, were hieji financial to cuthorities now indicatili that eermany would denend revision s Plan within two years and no longer nake the pay- plated under it? ':!ere these really words of wisdom iation with respect estions which France incare continued, s and security, the Gerelen newspapers faCt 7 thet France ion of treaties. not tie least THE OFFICIAL GROUNDS FOR 'THE RAISING OF THE DISCOUNT RATE An attempt to justify the policy hitherto followed by the 2eichsbank. (Aandels-,eitung des 3erliner-Tageblatts No. 272 of June 11 1927) Dr. Prie. The grounds for the raising of the discount rate at yesterday's meeting of the Central Jommittee of the Reichsb6 13=km:ilia-now .be announced. Accordingly the 'resident of the Reichsbank, Dr. Schacht, made the following statement: "After the rates of interest on the open money Liarket had - mainly as a result of the continual inflow of foreign loans during the whole of 1926 - for a long period on end rnained con- siderably below the official bank rate, the Reichsbank was obliged on January 11, 1927, to reduce its discount rate to 5 per cent. It was emphasised in this connection that further developments in the national economy itself would show whether this level could be maintained for a long period or whether circumstances would soon make it imperative to restore the old rate. ;_t the same time lit wagowdeimite*Ahavt Vie reduction in the discount rate was expected to have the effect of checking the inflow of foreign short-term monies. it was clear that the reduction of the bank rate to 5 per cent could not and was not intended to create a new level of interest for the investments m_rket, if only from the fact that the rate for L 2 i.dvances against collateral charged by the Reichebank (7 per cent) was maintained. As a matter of fact, during the first two months after the reduction of the discount rate considerable amounts of foreign loans flowed b ck into the countries from which they had come. i,fter that, however, calls were made upon short-term foreign money to a larger extent than before by the German banking world at rates which were independent of the discount rates of the Reichebank; this money was extensively used for financing purchases of securities. Although the .1eichsbank, when it explained the reasons for the reduction of the discount rate in January, pointed out that thenceforward German capital should more than ever be employed in the most economical manner possible, the effects of this warning coulter -acted by exaggerated speculation on the Bourse. :tort- term foreign indebtedness and Bourse commitments mainly based on credit Iwo further reduced the necessary economic liquidity, hen the measures taken by the banks on May 12 for limiting speculation 7= had.,been introduced, and the neutralisation of a defective discount policy by means of calls upon foreign monies for Bourse purposes bordsEtirEen reduced, the discount policy of the Reichsbank regained a natural basis. It is nevertheless evident, how little liberty of action is even yet enjoyed by the Reichebank in its decisions on discount policy. it cannot mainly depend on a money market operating with its own resources; on the contrary the highly developed German economy still requires foreign capital, as a result of the shortage 0 al/it have is also notevorthy that the average due dates for discounts been not inconsiderably extended during the 1.st few months. The figures are as follows; Altogether Handed in by 2u banks in Berlin January, 1927 February, 1927 26.1 days 9.9 days 24.2 days -arch, 1927 32.2 days 18.4 days 24.0 days April, 1927 27.4 days May, 1927 35.3 days 19.0 days 26.7 days The total foreign exchange holding of the Reichsbank has diminished since the beginning of the year by about HM. 1 milliard. On the other hand, the circulation of Reichsbank notes has not appreciably changed, because the foreign exchange reserve hrs for the :lost part been replaced by German bills. The circulation of Reichsbank notes amounted at the end of last year to RM. 3 736 millions and on zkly 31, 1927, to 3 719 millions. Nalms, although the note circulation has remained about the same, the composition of the cover has changed. Translation 4562 (from the German) : translated (LIP: checked NL. N °TED 22,J1j;1327 ossischo -eitung. June 2.), 1927. ei. x x Not only the x -:eichsbank but also the entire public has long desired a change in the fDrm of the bieemonthly balance sheets, and especially a :lore detaile in6ividual items. 1Zegotiations on this niatter had been going on for weeks between the the banks. specificetion of the eichebank and the reeresentatives of The course of the conversations showed that a change is riot possible in the near future because a settlement by ich law woul- be necessary for this. . current detailee specification woul Furthermore, a necessitate a change in the book-keeping methods of the banIze. For this reason, the leieLebank long desired an internal elucidation of the individual iteme in the balance sheets. It must be mentioned here that the banks belonging to the atempelvereinigung have, on the basis of a voluntary agreement with the Teichsbank, always furnishee such information, upon request, in tie past in order to give the 71eichsbenk eome baaia for judgine the .financial position of the bank in question. But it was always only a rough basis, acid it is comprehenuible ie view of the events of the past few weeks that the Heichebank d-si for itu judgmeet. The filling out of this que But the Reichsbank assumes that the o banks will furnish the desired statements, and, aocoreing to our information, some banks have already furnishes the information dooired. The more serious the decisions *Lich the !ieichsbank must make with re to its credit policy, or, more exactly, the greater the decidini, influence whicn the :eichsbank tries to exert oe the credit policy of the banks, the more necessary iu it for the e idhsbank to have really accurate and detailed information. IWO THE TRANSFER COMMITTEE LE COMTE DES TRANSFERTS PARIS BERLIN 3* LUISENSTRASSE 18 HUE DE TILS1TT TELEPHONE: NORDEN 11900-11910 TELEGRAMS: AGENTREP, BERLIN TELEPHONE: WAGRAM 21.2 2 -2 1. 2 3 TtLEGRABanze: REPAGENT, PARIS Paris, August 27, 1927. Immix Dear Ben, I have just been in Paris for yesterday and today, in the middle of my vacation, for a meeting of the Transfer Committee, and nave received your letter of July 21. I have, as you suggested, shown it to Gilbert who is sailing for New York on the 30th, in fact, on the very boat by which this letter will go. He is taking a copy of it with him and will doubtless discuss it all with you at much length. H)wever, some of the points which you raise we have already discussed here in a preliminary way. I am leaving in an hour or so for Ragusa to finish out the remaining fortnight of my vacation, and shall not attempt to write you a letter in reply until I get back to Berlin the middle of September. Indeed, I doubt if I shall write you until after Gilbert comes back, when I shall have the advantage of his conversations with you on the subject of your letter. He will doubtless tell you of the present attitude of your German colleague, which is very different from what it was in June, and I think the conversations you and he had have been very beneficial. Your proposal of a rest at Algecerts sounds very pleasant, and if I could arrange it I should like greatly to see you there or elsewhere during your stay in Europe. Your letter inaicates to me that you are in your usual good mental form, and I hope the same is true physically. Best regards. Faithfully yours, Mr. Benjamin Strong, 33, Lioerty Street, New York. Fr 0.1E TRANSFER COMMITTEE LE COMITE DES TRANSFERTS PARIS BERLIN 38 LIJISENSTRASSE IS RUE DE TILSITT itELEPHONE: NORDEN 11900-11910 riez.zonnins: AGENTREP, BERLIN TicLAPHontE: WAGRAM 21.22-21.23 TELEGRAIKMES: REPAGENT, PARIS CONFIDENTIAL BERLIN October 24, 1927. Benjamin Strong, Esq., Federal Reserve Bank, 33 Liberty Street, NEW YORK. Dear Fen, No sooner had I gotten back from my vacation and Gilbert returned from America two or three days later than the Prussian Loan discussion arose and the preparation began of the memorandum on economic conditions in Germany which Gilbert presented to the Finance Minister on on the 20th instant. The result of these was that we have all been working at high pressure, and I have had only the most meagre opportunity for /( .king with Gilbert of his discussions with you on the subject of your two letters while he was in America recently. And tomorrow we must start in full steam aheadzon the preparation of the annual report, which is due to appear on December 1st. So I see no onportunity of any further discussion with him at the moment, and will take this brief respite to send you some views, which I am afraid will not be very well put together. ' In the first place let me thank you for your statements of the subjects which you discussed at the Central Bank Conference and of the general confiiensus of views which prevailed upon them. It sounds extremely interesting and it !1!1111fIgitunate in many ways that Moreau was not there instead of Fist. Schacht is the only one I have seen since the Conference and his attitude with regard to transfers, as I think I have already written you, seems to have changed quite radically since before your Conference. He now seems to feel, or did quite recently, that the one thing that Germany mustn't do is to let transfers break down. This Krees entirely with the views expressed on page _3 of your letter of July 1 and it seems to me an entirely sound view, although only if carried into effect in a reasonable way. That is to say, it seems to me that no artificial steps should be taken to facilitate transfers, but on the other hand no obstacles should be interposed to hinder transfers. In other words, the German economy should conduct itself in such manner as will best promote its own sound developments, irrespective of transfers, on the theory, which Gilbert stated in his lest report, "that what is in the interest of the German economy is also in the interest of the execution of the Plan". If the German public bodies borrow their heads off abroad it facilitates transfers for the moment, bul on the other hand stimulates over-spending andelrise in prices at home which cannot help hindering the development of Germany's export trade, on which, in the long run, she must depend to pay her various nerar,-tien obligations. 1 Benjamin Strong, Esq., -a- October 24. 1927. Since Schacht came back from the United States he has been ranking strenuous efforts to get a reform of the Beratungsstelle which passes on foreign loans. he has had a certain measure of success. By agreement with the Government the Beratungsstelle must now consider not only whether the loan is productive but whether it is advantageous for the German economy as a whole to hove the borrowing done. On the other hand, the composition of the Beratungsstelle is not charged,but it is provided that when a vote is not unanimous, in the first instance/in which the assistants of the five members do the voting, appeal may be taken to the same body, but on such appeal the principals themselves must sit. This latter arrangement is not much of an improvement, and I understand that Scacht is not at all satisfied with it. Now as to the Transfer question/I would be the last one to attempt to prophesy since the Plan, which is cur bible, wisely said that only experience can show the amount that car, be transferred. I agree that the transfers have been largely covered by foreign loans. How long Germany will continue to want to borrow abroad to recreate her liquid capital and make improvements in excess of her own savings is very difficult to say. Furthermore, how long foreign countries will continue to want to lend to Germany is another equally unfathomable consideration. It is quite conceivable that a general settlement might be made a year or two hence in which, under presertions,ai-al 44.e) foreign borrowing,she might undertake to pay abroad somewhere around the now being paid; and thentsay,five years later. should her need for foreign loans greatly slacken, find that her exports were quite incapable of meeting her transfer obligations. On the other hand it is certain that the preserl. uncertainty as to the ultimate amount of Germany's reparation debt, a&Athe number of years for which she must go on aying,creates an atmosphere unfavourable to a united effort on the part of the economy to make its maximum performance in respect of exports. Particularly at the present moment is this true,when the stimulated internal buying power is creating such a home demand that manufacturers arc feeling much less of an urge to export. An important German industrialist said to me the other day that he thought the worst thing that had happened to Germany was the British coal strike, because just at the moment when German industrialists were tightening their belts and starting on a programme of urgent rationalization the British coal strike prematurely eased end stimulated things in Germany in such a way that the reform was not fully carried out, and the industrialists became more interested in volume/ than in cost of production. atI / The foregoing suggests some of the unknown factors, which you yourself have doubtless thought of, which make it almost impossible to make forecasts The amounts of international transfers are certainly of present possibilities. staggering as you have indicated on page 4, and in this connection you do not menticn the various governmental war indebtedness to England. It would seem to me, referring to your figures/that the t200,000,000.- owing to our Government is included in the $625,000,000.- that Germany owes her creditors. I have always been rather sceptical myself about the ability of countries to transfer to other countries huge sums representing loans which did not represent value received, as is certainly the case with all these war debts. Any settlement of the reparation question seems to me likely in the last analysis to result, as far as America is concerned, in placing German obligations in the hands of Americen investors in place of English, French and other Government obligations in the hands of our Government. Js to the non-war obligations of foreign Benjamin Strons, Esq., October 24, 192g. 3 1111 countries and industries now held by Americans, the service of which is now running at $700,000,000.- a year, as long as our present prosperity keeps up at home it seems to me that there will be no difficulty in our re-investing abroad an amount roughly equal to the service of the foreign obligations we hold. My reasoning on this proceeds from the experience of our mutP1 savings banks at home, tr which, except possibly for panic years,showsthst the total savings deposits increase.' at an annual rate at least equal to the amount of interest In other words, the millions of people who have created during the year. these billions of savings do not use the interest on them but leave it to I think the experience of England before the war, with relation accumulate. Thus it seems to me that taking to her foreign investments, was quite similar. foreign investments as a whole, now that we have begun to make'them and provided that the prove satisfactory/we are going to continue making them, and are going to increase them whether in the form of bonds or 01' shares to an amount on the average, and in the long ru n, of not less each year than the amount of the This, interest, dividends and sinking funds we rece've on these investments. of course,assumes that the smericen doesn't have serious disappointments with foreign investments, although in the case of England even such experiences did not seem to chill the British ardour for foreign investments. If the foregoing is at all a correct forecast, it would seem as though the necessity of receiving 4700,000,000 or more a year would not create serious transfer difficulties, or necessarily endanger the gold standard. But as to Germany itself, a single country, transferring out such huge amounts as its reparation obligations and the service of its non-war obligatien7tYtt is another question about which I cannot attempt a forecast. I think the time will come when Germany will not wan' to borrow anything like what she is borrowing now, and I therefore think the service of Germany's foreign obligations will probably result in foreigners gradually taking over large amounts of German shares as Germany's industries become strong and flourishing. Of course present share prices are at a ridiculous level considering present returns. They have discounted the future quite heavily. When the rate of return comes down to an attractive level I see no reason why our people should not bur' German shares quite freely. This brings me to another of your points, page 4 of your letter of July 21, in which you say that these "staggering figures indicate a lone* period of depressed European exchanges, rather high central bank rates, and rather high interest rates for capital if not for short money as well". I remember the first time I met Norman and he discoursed to me upon his theory or-,Internstional relationship of central bank rates,he said that the countr which had the largest amount of gold or liquid funds for the time was entitled to have the lowest rete,oghich seemed perfectly reasonable and logical. Presumably the converse would in a general way be true. Viz-a-viz the United States I should think that the European countries, particularly those which suffered most from the war, would hive high rates for o- considerable length of time. Particularly would this be true,I should say/with countries whose liquid capital was so largely lost by inflation. Higher rates stimulate saaving at home and draw funds from abroad. both of these movements are necessary for a prolonged period while reconstruction of the credit system is going on. Germany it seems to me must look forward for many years to relatively high rates. The 5% bank rate of last winter and spring was due to an exceptional combination of circumstances, and Benjamin Strong Esq., October 24, 1927. - 6- e _ certainly was justified for not more than a couple of months. Some similar combination of circumstances might temporarily reduce it again, but it looks to me as if the Germar rate would for some years have to fluctuate between say 5 and 74, while our rates at home might fluctuate between 3A and 4 save under exceptional circumstances. But these higher rates may not always mean very depressed European exchanges, nor will the level of American rates always have a controlling influence on the state of the exchanges or the level of European bank rates. On page 7 of your letter of August 4 you say that if you had deferred reducing the rate for a few weeks longer you would probably have had a 5i3 bank rate in England, a 7% rate in Germany, a W. rate in Holland and quite possibly a higher rate in Switzerland. No-; the fact is that you have got a 7g rate in Germany and a 0% rate in Holland in spite of your reduction., And nearly all the exchanges of stabilized countries, viz-a-viz the dollar, have so advanced that they do not any longer indicate cold imports into the United States. ::or; mucll of this movement is due to your rote action I have no means of knowing, but comparing August 1 with June 1 it looks as if the appreciation of many of the European exchanges had begun before you took your action. Imo, I have always belived that it was desirable,in making our rates, to take into consideration their probable effect on conditions in other countries and broadly on the gold standard as a whole. But I think that this consideration should only be a side light, and that the main consideration should be what is our own interest under the circumstances. If it is to our own interest, to prevent gold from coming in or otherwise, to Lfya 31% rate, I think But I do not think we should have iTPa the -may. purpose we should have it. of ebabling other countries f.4344 keeplwg their rates from g oina up, whether or not such action on their part may lead to a fall inprice level. The advantatse of the gold standard it seems to me is that it automatically forces each country which had adopted it to take such action internally as will protect that standard, and as I have already indicated,50% of the eventualities which you thought on August 4 had been avoided by your rate action have already In this connection I am sending you a very brief enclosure materialized. which I took from a Federal Reserve Bank blue sheet which has come on to my desk to-day, end which expresses in rather a nutshell what I have just ben discussing. One other topic which you take up at some length in your letter of July 21 was the desirability of a moderation of the volume of transfers In this c99.nection prior to the time of strain arising (see pages 4 and O. I was interested to notice a sentence on :,our letter of September 24to Gilbert on the subjecl of the Prussian Loan as follows: "This will precipitade the test of the Dawes Plan at least earlier than it seems to be desirable and possibly I do not knor what conversations you had with Gilbert on the necessary". subject while he was in America but I judge you may hove had a good many. Should Personally I do not think one can say when the question will come up. it come up in the normal way through transfer difficulties it would seem to me that possibly the Transfer Committee would be the best agency through which to have the question of a general settlement raisedj inasmuch as it is an international body and the body which is primarily charged with responsibility My own belief is that matters will jog along for another 12 in the matter. months or so, and that no opportunity will arise to take up the question of settlement until the winter of 1929-29. - 0 October 24, 1927. Benjamin Strong, Esq., 85 - Now it is 7.30 p.m. and I must stop in order to give my secretary a chance to write this and get it off by toni7htls mail. I have not touched on lots of things I should like to have written about ant having whetted my appetite,by this discourse,for a further talk with youlshall hope to continue it in the course of the next few days on some of the more personal happenings of the past few weeks in and out of the Reserve I am not writing anything about the memorandum recently submitted System. because I understand that Gilbert is writing you briefly and sending you a copy of it by this same mail. With my very best to you and all my friends among the direeors and officers and others in the bank, I am, Faithfully yours, P.S. As I stop dictating I am conscious that this is a very rambling letter, and as I read it over forany possible stenographic mistakes I shall doubtless feel that some of ,:hat I have said may not be But I am going to send it along all the some with very dound. the feeling that you will recognise that sane of the thoughts may be merely "happy thoughts". IA3 Co TUE TRANSFER Co ,)1 M)TTEE DES TRANSFERTS PARIS BERLIN 18 RUE DE TILSITT 33 LVISENSTRASSE I TELEPHONE: NORDEN 111100-11910 ,z1/4 TELEGRAMS: AGENTREP, BERLIN TELEpuores: WAGRAM 21.22-21.23 TELEctinmnEs: REPAGENT, PARIS crBERLI N November 13, 1927. Benjamin Strong, Esq., 33 Liberty Street, NEW YORK. Dear Ben, This is just a brief line written on Sunday afternoon in the midst of the annual Report preparation period, in regard to which both Morgan and I are sitting at 33 Luisenstrasse,waiting for Gilbert to turn up in order that we may discuss with him a draft of his reply to your cablegrammhich I understand that he dictated this morning. It certainly raises a very fundamental question in a very urgent way. When I wrote you two or three weeks ago I said I was going to write you another letter soon on personal matters. What I really had in mind was to say how very pleased I was to learn of Younglsanpointment as Governor, and to express the hope that,if all the resolutions you had in the spring of 1926 with regard to your own relations to the System did not disappear during your illness, 4.10,150.AIAI the appointment of Young as Governor has definitely put an end to them. It seems to me a splendid choice, and while I understand you sugiested,as well, our friend the ex-Congress,men from Minnesota, I think the selection actually made was better if for no other reason than that an officer of the System was chosen as the head of the Board. in future. This is a precedent which I hope will often be followed Some time when you have an opportunity do drop me a line as to how Young showed up during the conference, and how things seem to be lining up in the Board under his leadership. The more I think of it the more it seems to me to have been the best possible solution. Benjamin Strong, Esq., November 13, 1927. - 2 - Apropos of the Memorandum, it occurs to me to send you quite a batch of translations of articles from the German papers on the subject. I had not meant to send you so many and asked my secretary to look them through in regard to interesting ones. She reports that she thinks they are all interesting, so I am sending them along" to you with the suggestion that you ask Burgess to read them over and give you the ones that he thinks will interest you. When you have read them I suggest that you show them to McGarrah, and if you both feel like doing so,yee- also show them to Owen Young, Sterrett and Fraser. Of course if any others might be interested there is no reason they shouldn't see them. I h,ve some of the translations at home, and will therefore mail them in a separate envelope. One of the jokes going* round German banking circles is that it would be a good thing for Germany if Gilbert were Finance Minister and KBhler were Agent General ! But don't report this as coming from me. One of the results of the Memorandum and the Government's reply is that Schacht, who, until a month or so ago, was rather a voice crying in the wilderness, feels that the wind is now blowing with him and is going to make a strenuous effort to get the beratungsstelle not only to establish an effective control over foreign borrowings, but to exercise considerable influence on the financial policies of the States and communes. he is preparing an important speech to be made at Bochum about a week hence. The following appears to me to be the net result of the Memorandum and the Government's reply. The ' Memorandum was a document attempting seriously to warn the German Government of the effect of certain tendencies. These were: November 13, 1927. Benjamin Strong, Esq., - 3 - 1. Thetendency of the Reich to over-spend. To this the Government replies that the extraordinary budget (through which the over-spending was done) will be compressed almost to the point of suppression. The Government's policy having been to cover extraordinary budget expenditures by borrowing and keeping the ordinary budget strintly in balance, this will mean that hereafter the consolidated budget wit.' be kept in balance, Of course they are comlitted to some of the extraordinary or nearly so. budget expenditures of 1926-27 and 1927-28 and will have several 100 million marks to borrow on this account when the market will permit it, but they are evidently going to steer pretty clear of borrowing for any budgetary purpose hereafter. 2. The tendency of the States and comlunes to over-spend, and the Ra--t:- neoessity for sill ot leadership in these matters. In reply lo this the Government, while claiming that State and communal borrowing has been largely productive, nevertheless say they will take a strong stand for economy. 3. The handling of public funds, at times in opposition to the Reichs- bank, has created in effect two credit policies, an impossible situation. The Government admits that governmental policy and heichsbank policy must be unified, and will take steps to this end. 4. The need for administrative reform. The Government admits this need and will take aotive steps to endeavour to bring it about. I have picked out these four points from the Memorandum because they seem to me, while many other incidental points were mentioned, to cover the principal things necessary to be done to make the under-lying financial November 13, 1927. Benjamin Strong, Esq., 100 - 4 - condition in Germany sound, and on all four of them the reply of the Government, when you strip it to its essentials, is satisfactory. But of course to be effective the decisions they take must be translated into action, and the question is whether they will be effectively put into practice or not. that point only time will tell. On The difficulty of course is that there isn't any one outstanding man in the Government to see them through. The Transfer question was only raised in the Memorandum incidentally and as a part of the whole picture. Referring to your telegram about Dewey, of course we shall be delighted to see him here, where he must in any event come en route to Warsaw.. The preparation of the annual Report, which is somewhat behindhand on account of the Memorandum and its consequences, will keep all hands here, at least during November and until the heport appears. It is scheduled to appear December 1st. With best regards to you and McGarrah and my other friends in the Bank to whom you are at liberty to show any or all this letter in accordance with your judgment, I am, Faithfull yours, 7Ce%IZCPiC -!4/1 /c 239 -2.41, kue &kortor6 (Place Venddme Adresse telegraphique: 0.-A9Wei)ie/7?1,Y:d -17 REGI S,RE DU COMMERCE SEINE 58057 _ . Tel Central 41-92 cA-() Ec_%z../fr 0.4.e--Gt9t http://fraser.stlouisfed.org/ ts2s2.4, Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis --/t&t_ 1%6 s l ,, h -OZZ) //ewe _27 . /of-Jew , HOTEL de France et Choiseule 239-241, Rue St. Honord (Place Vendome) Dec. 19, 1927 Francheul- Paris Dear Ben, I saw Moreau this morning, also Rist, and gave them your messages about not coming to Paris, but as they did not mention the matter for which' But I noyou came over, I did not either, in accordance with your wishes. ticed that Nogaro (Italian), Trustee for the Industrial Debentures at Berlin, whom I saw in our office here this A. M., and who had just come from Rome, said Stringher had been in London for two or three weeks arranging for stabilization. However, perhaps its just as well not to quote him to Stringher! Moreau had just received your letter, and said nothing to me about its contents. I only stayed a short time, and we discussed mostly' Gilbert's report, which seems to have disturbed the French because it mentioned the total amount of reparations, and Beringer is out with a big statement. As to the suggestion you made the other morning regarding a possible job, I was so surprised that I hardly knew what to say. As I think I made it clear, I am greatly interested in my present work and have not been giving any thought whatever to the future, though I realize fully that the future The idea of a job that might have a little will some day have to be faced. elbow room in it, as far as income goes, would be something I have never experienced and would have an undoubted attraction for me. So if anything materializes, I should be very glad if I might hear about it and have a look and in any case I appreciate greatly your thinking of me in regard to at it; it. It was great to see you again, for even so short a time, and find you in such good form -- altogether it gave me more satisfaction than any experience I've had over here. It seemed like old times, and as if there hadn't been any interruption of our association. With my best regards to all my friends in the Bank. Yours as ever, (Signed) PIERRE JAY Looking forward to seeing you in Berlin in the spring. COMTE DES TRIANSFERTS 416 THE TRANSFER COMMITTEE PARIS 83 ELHSEN9TBANSE BERLIN IN RUE DE TELEITT TELEPHONE: NORDEN 11800-119£0 TELEGRAMS: AGENTREP, BERLIN TSLBPHONS IVAGRAM 21.2'2-21.23 TALgereastrzEs: REPAGENT, PARES BERLIN February 27, 1928. Benjamin Strong, Esq., lederal Reserve Bank, 33 Liberty Street, NE7 YORK. Dear Ben, I was very much disturbed and worried at hearing that you landed in bed after your trip to London and appreciated very much Harrison's letter of January 16th telling me of your satisfactory progress. But just about the same time a report came to us through Holland that you were not so well again, so I sent a cable to Harrison and was delighted to get a cable from you yourself saying that you were on the mend and hoping to go to Atlantic City before long, of which I got a confirmation from McGarrah in a letter of February 15th,received to-day, saying that on February 16th you were to make your first visit to the Bank and then go soon to Atlantic City. I was sorry to learn from McGarrah, however, that you had indefinitely postponed your trip to Europe, although he did not give any inkling as to the reason; that is, whether it was on account of your health and wanting to stay near the doctor, or on account of some Congressional action, or other Federal Reserve reason. hope it will prove to be a good decision an'? Whatever it is I shall look forward to hearing from McGarrah in person about the reason for it. Over here things have been going alonT fairly quietly, except in our family wher we have been quite excited over our second daughter' Nancy's, engagement which we learned of by cablq about ten days ago. and likes him. ono he was. Loulie knows the boy slightly I met him once a couple of years ago, but cannot recall j.11+ whirth However, all contemporary opinion from home scorns to be to the Benjamin Strong, Esq., February 27, 1928. 2 effect that it is a very satisfactory engagement, so we are correspondingly pleased and happy. The German Government Coalition, which had been groggy for some weeks if not months, was officially dissolved about a fortnight ago, but on the urgent representation of President Hindenburg decided not to break up the session of Parliament, if it could be managed, without first passing the budget and one or two other pieces of legislation. The elections are to come about in the middle or latter half of May and naturally with agriculture, particularly in Prussia, in very poor shape after two or three years of bad harvests, there is a great demand for emergency relief and the various parties are vying with one another to be good to the farmers. The Government will apparently give about 150 million RM of grants and perhaps guarantees oe second mortgages of an equivalent amount. Finance Minister feel:. The L'ee., they have done pretty well in holding these expendi- tures down to this figure because the pressure has been very great. from taxation are remarkable. The returns In the first ten months of the financial year ending March 31, the revenues were 702 millions greater than the estimated revenues for the entire year. The prospect is that February and March, the last two months of the year, will bring the excess up to between 750 to 800 millions over the estimates, making about 10% increase. That is almost as good proportionately as the way our taxes have kept rolling in at Washington. in spending the money and that is the real trouble. down their expenses. But there is no difficulty They are no really holding The unemployment has begun to decrease a trifle. running up about 1 million above the low point of the early eutumn. han3,the After On the other great bulk of the increase is in the building and agricultural fields and represents, to a considerable extent, people who were always heretofore unemployed but hadn't before, under the rules, gotten on the unemployment lists. Indeed, in February 27, 1928. Benjamin Strong, Esq., - 3 - the building trade, wages have always been adjusted to a high per diem basis on the expectation that the workers would have a good many weeks or months of unemploy.eent in the year. But, with the unemployment insurance scheme they get very high wages and then, during their unemployment, get relief in addition. So that they are pretty well off and not to be pitied. With the agricultural labourers, they always expect some unemployment, although. I don't believe their wages .ere ever very good. However, But the same is true in every country. with the unemployment relief payments they are certainly much better off than before. Business seems to be going on.at a pretty steady clip without mucl-. sign of any immediate important set-back. The big wage controversy in the machine industry affecting 850,000 workers was settled, though not to the satisfaction of either side, by an increase of a trifle over sg in their wages. the prospect is that this will be reflected in somewhat higher prices. There are p great many wage contracts coming up for settlement this Spring end this was looked upon as rather a test case by both sides. with new agreements on a 5 If they increase basis it won't be so bad. can get away The adverse trade balance continues and in January was the highest I think since stabilization Exports are nearly always low in January, and the imports were swelled to some extent by technical accounting reasons. In spite of this and of the very small amount of long term loans recently floated, and in spite of our transfers, of which you in the Reserve Bank have the practically complete picture, exchange keeps very strong indeed which indicates, as we know to be a fact, that short money is coming into Germany again. At the Reichsbank the situation is quite satisfactory and the currency, which has continued for the past two or three years to run somewhat over 500 mill level in excess of the/ of the previous year, is now running along only a little over Benjamin Strong, Esq., February 27, 1928. - 4 - the 400 millions over/corresponding months of 1927. The 200 millions of Rail- road preference shares with dividend guaranteed by the Government, which were offered here,werc very well subscribed for and I understand, very well distributed. Of course, the papers made a great deal of talk about the amount of foreign subscriptions as o crack at Gilbert, but in the allotments the foreign subscriptions were out down pretty low and did not amount to more than l/ to 15g of the total 200 millions. large. I do not understand that the American subscriptions were very In fact, most of the foreign applications came from Europe. Earlier in this month the Treasury issued 40 millions RM of treasury bills, of which, confidentially, 25 millions were taken for Commissioner of Assigned Revenues. tl-c, investment of the reserve of the The remainder went into the banks, but naturally you cannot make much of a market on 15 millions. Later on the Govern- ment will doubtless have to issue more and then we all hope en endeavour will be made to develop a real market. On the other hand, Schacht doesn't know much about doing it, and the German tradition is all against having an open market in treasury bills. Schacht and his wife are away now for a month in Sicily, but should be back next week. We are planning to go to Paris about the middle of March for a month, so that I can get better acquainted with the people there, and I am looking forward to it very much. I am enclosing herewit for your confidential informa- tion a copy of a memorandum which Gilbert sent to the Reparation Commission a few days ago, which speaks for itself. But I think you will be interested in reading it, and I am sure that Gilbert will be quite ready to have you show it to Case and Harrison. With very best wishes for one of your good, strong come-backs, I am, Faithfully yours, Copy of longhand letter: Pierre Jay to Gov. Strong TRANSFER COMMITTEE tin 33 Luisenstrasse Feb. 27, 1928 Dear Ben, This is just a line to supplement my dictated letter, and to say that the talks Gilbert had in Paris on his way back from America last month were most satisfactory. The attitude was entirely reasonable and understanding and a readiness was expressed to give consideration to serious proposals if made, though naturally France was not the party to make them. Through these conversations, too, progress was made on the idea of dealing with the reparation question on its own In Brussels, the attitude merits instead of as a reparation-debt joint question. was also similar. Other centres have not yet been visited. In Germany, the attitude So that it as been very restrained, both in public speeches and in the newspapers. pears as if the suggestion in the last report and the ensuing discussions and conrsations had led to a distinct clarification and progression in the views of important ple as well as, to some extent, of the public generally. LE CON 1 TE DES TRANSFERTB '1711:E TRANSFER Co 11 TIME PARIS 18 RUE DE TILSITT BERLIN 88 LUISENSTEASSE TELEPHONE: NORDEN 11900 -11910 TfiLatpnoNE: WAGRAM 21.22-21.23 TELEGRAMS: AGENTREP, BERLIN TgLtGrumatEss REPAGENT, PARIS *a. (LL Ak ?Ara, 1-7/ 12, - (-1:1) e_4L a. - duL4-44- A S--0 -2,J-zot L.--1". C-4-e-p-2--t--0-r. -14-1e)---Z-e-e- Vie_ C_4"--c-4-4,- ;L 24)1ir fj 1 J LE COMITE DES TRANSFERTS *THE TRANS FER COMMITTEE Aft PARI s BERLIN 18 FLUE DE TxLmirr TELEPHONE: BARHAM R.22 II 23 33 LEIRENSTI1ASSE TELEPHONE: NORDEN 11000 11010 TELEORAIHN: ABENTREP, BERLIN TELEBRAMNIEs: REPABENT PARIS ,CVfr BERLIN CA- 9- (//: C7` 40 a 2 6L---%K, (-1:1,?1 2c- eg-tts bl-Q-L-1 /94,-,c-et / 4J-4, Q tu-6,ccy o- aAt- urti-t_CAN. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org/ Federal ReserveTRANSFER Bank of St. Louis COMMITTEE Page 2 Just now, he is planning a short visit to Paris to attend the Rep. Com. meeting of May 26, and possibly present to them a memorandum carrying a bit further the ideas re settlement which he expressed in the memo of February It is likely that the conclusions to the report of which you received a copy. we are now preparing will contain some further thoughts on the subject, tho' (All this, of course, is private.) that is not yet decided. But, as a result of the position taken in the last report and the visits since made to London, Paris, Brussels, and Rome, the influence of Gilbert in Europe has increased immensely. In Paris and Rome, I believe it is little short of remarkable. He is planning to go to New York (as yet very confidential) about June 15 for a few weeks. Morrow will be there, the campaign will be taking shape, and an estimate can be formed, very likely, as to what the prospects are for a liberal attitude next winter should any proposals be made. Moreau's trip here was an excellent thing from every standpoint. Schacht has written You have doubtless heard from him of the result of it. or is about to write M.[oreau] a letter giving his position which is cooperative but with reservations about Rumania's attitude towards Germany which must first be met. Now I remember that the letter has been sent, and a copy forwarded to Norman, because I understand that Stamp who was here last week expressed the view that he thought Schacht's position reasonable. You have doubtless been in touch with Norman and know his plans. I only know that when I saw him in London a month ago I thought he looked badly, and Stamp thought he would have to go away for a good long rest. I hope you and he can have it together somewhere. Don't think of bothering to answer. I will get your plans and your I hope address from Dean Jay and try to keep you in touch with things here. you haven't brought a secretary over. With best wishes for a good rest and recovery, and if there is anything you want to be informed on, be sure to telegraph, if you think I can help. Faithfully yours, (Signed) PIERRE JAY 410 IINTRANSFER COMMITTEE Berlin 33 Luisenstrasse Copy of longhand letter to Strong from Pierre Jay May 18, 1928 Dear Ben: This is a line of personal welcome and to wish you a good recuperation over here from the trials you've had since you sailed in December. Aside from general statements about your health, I've had two specific glimpses of it, one from Burgess who told of your testimony on the Strong Bill, which sounded as if your tail was up and scraping the sky; and the second just now from Fraser, who told what he'd heard of your feeling rocky So here's at a recent directors' meeting, which sounded anything but good. hoping you're really going to rest over on this side, and not work your head off, at least till you've got the machine well oiled and running again. Aside from greetings, this letter is to tell you a bit of our private affairs here, by way of bringing you up to date since Gilbert returned from New York in January. In Paris, he had a long talk with the Finance Minister and they reached without any difficulty a meeting of minds on the idea of a settleBut, naturally, it ment in the not too distant future, without a crisis. was not for the creditor to bring the subject up. Com.; Gilbert also had a most satisfactory session with the Rep[aration] also with the Foreign Minister. From Paris, he went to Brussels and had an equally satisfactory time there. About the middle of March, he went to London for a week and had very good talks with the Prime Minister, the Chancellor, and others, Norman being absent. From London he came to Paris at the end of March for a Transfer Com. He meeting and at the Finance Minister's request went to see him again. found that in the interval, since January, things had been developing a bit in the F. M.'s mind, and you doubtless saw what he said a day or two later in It created a good his speech at Carcassonne on the subject of Reparations. deal of a sensation in both France and Germany. From Paris Gilbert went to Rome for a week and had several long talks with Volpi, and one short one with Mussolini as a result of which, I gather, they are most cordial to the idea of an early settlement and ready to use their influence in this direction when the time comes. Thence Gilbert went to Baden Baden for a 3 weeks' rest, and returned about 10 days ago more rested and refreshed than I have seen him since I came over. I. Olp Page 2 Just now, he is planning a short visit to Paris to attend the Rep. Com. meeting of May 26, and possibly present to them a memorandum carrying a bit further the ideas re settlement which he expressed in the memo of February of which you received a copy. It is likely that the conclusions to the report we are now preparing will contain some further thoughts on the subject, tho' that is not yet decided. (All this, of course, is private.) But, as a result of the position taken in the last report and the visits since made to London, Paris, Brussels, and Rome, the influence of Gilbert in Europe has increased immensely. In Paris and Rome, I believe it is little short of remnrkable. He is planning to go to New York (as yet very confidential) about June 15 for a few weeks. Morrow will be there, the campaign will be taking shape, and an estimate can be formed, very likely, as to what the prospects are for a liberal attitude next winter should any proposals be made. Moreauls trip here was an excellent thing from every standpoint. You have doubtless heard from him of the result of it. Schacht has written or is about to write M.[oreau] a letter giving his position which is cooperative but with reservations about Rumania's attitude towards Germany which must first be met. Now I remember that the letter has been sent, and a copy forwarded to Norman, because I understand that Stamp who was here last week expressed the view that he thought Schacht's position reasonable. You have doubtless been in touch with Norman and know his plans. I only know that when I saw him in London a month ago I thought he looked badly, and Stamp thought he would have to go away for a good long rest. I hope you and he can have it together somewhere. Don't think of bothering to answer. I will get your plans and your address from Dean Jay and try to keep you in touch with things here. I hope you haven't brought a secretary over. With best wishes for a good rest and recovery, and if there is anything you want to be informed on, be sure to telegraph, if you think I can help. Faithfully yours, (Signed) PIERRE JAY LE CO MI TE DES TRANS RTS 11116 TDB TRANSFER COMMLTTEE PARIS BERLIN Sta LU1SENSTRASSE 18 RUE DE TILSITT TELEPHONE: NORDEN 1190042910 TELEGRAMS: AGENTREP, 3ERLIN T*Lf..-Puork: WAGRAM 21.22-21.23 tikLEGRAntmEs: REPAGENT, PARIS May 20, 1928. BERLIN Benjamin Strong, Esq., C/o R.B. Wigglesworth, Esq., 18 rue de Tilsitt, PARIS. Dear Ben, I have two recent letters from you unanswered, those of March 2 and March 26, the first from Atlantic City and the second from Washington. Also I have just received from Sheperd Morgan a letter you dictated on the "Mautetania" on Christmas Day. Let me first run over these letters and see what there is to answer in them. First of all you spew: of your plans to spend some time in Beau I hope that you are still planning to go there, or somewhere else of that sort. I shall expect to see you somewhere over here during your stay, but as our organization may be pretty thin during the next two months, owing to absences in America, I may not be able to move around very freely. ing to go home at the end of August for a few weeks. The occasion of it is Nancy's wedding early in September, but it will give me a pick up threads I am propos- welcome opportunity to with my friends, with wnom I am a bit out of touch because, as you know, I am not a good correspondent. Your letter of March 26 dealt to a considerabl, -xtent with home affairs and conditions in which. I was, of course, greatly interested. It is too bad that the Stock Exchange has intervened so strongly of late in the credit situation, but of course, the only thing to do was to meet it by a rate increase, and the outflow of gold vis-a-vis the rate situation has thus far been an ally. Should May 20, 1928. Benjamin Strong, Esq., - 2 - France stabilize in the next few weeks as many people think she will, the effect on the exchanges, particularly sterling, might be interesting. Stewart, with whom I talked in London a month ago, felt that sterling would not be greatly I have heard other observers express the view that it would depress affected. sterling a couple of points if the franc became tied to gold rather than to sterling. My own belief is that there are so many counter-currents that no-one can accurately predict what the effect of stabilization in France would be. Here in Germany the money rates keep pretty high and the market for new issues is again pretty well congested after showing signs of life during the late winter and early spring. The quarterly average of securities placed in 1925 was 258 million marks; in 1926,818 millions-and in 1927, 723 millions. In the first quarter of 1928 it was 974 millions, which included 200 millions of railway preference shares. In April the States, cities and girozentrale placed 226 million of loans on the domestic market, but about the end of April the market, never very broad, became congested. A large volume of these loons placed in the domestic market were either purchased on order from foreign countries, or were reoffered in round lots by issue houses in European countries. In one way this is an evasion of the efforts at control by the Beratungsstelle, for of course, the effect on German credit abroad, and on the German exchange, is largely the same as if they were placed abroad. On the other hand, the readiness of foreign countries to invest in mark obligations seems to me quite the most important development in German relations with the rest of the world since the establishment of the Dawes Plan in view of the confidence that it indicates in the German currency. Also it is a much healthier medium for the inflow of foreign credit than the medium of short banking end other credits which were used in the preceding months. On the other hand, it is a medium which is only practicable when the internal issue market is Benjamin Strong, Esq., May 20, 1928. - showing signs of life. is not very strong. 3 - Just at present, as I have indicated, the spark of life In the meantime, as you will have observed, th, German exchange naturally keeps amazingly strong. Business on the whole is good though somewhat spotty, and the prices of consumers' goods have increased slightly, and are likely to increase still further, owing to the epidemic of wage increases averaging from 5% to 8% which have been goinc: the rounds due, in the main, I should guess, to the effect of the Reich salary increase. As you know, an increase in railroad rates, due primarily to the same cause, is also pending. Possibly these wage increases, like ours in 1922, can be absorbed without affecting prices seriously, but I doubt if the psychological and other factors are here to cope with it as we did. Unemployment is following almost preciaely the same curve of seasonal decrease as last year, but with the total number of unemployed running about 100,000 less. The tax revenues in the fiscal year ending March 31, 1928, were amazing. They increased about 18% over those of the preceding year, and a still further, though much smaller increase is foreseen in the present year. This has enabled the Government to navigate and assume additional burdens without borrowing, and my guess is that by economizing on expenditures, provided no economic set-back occurs, they will also be a'le to balance their budget next year when the Annuity reaches its maximum. A little over a year ago this looked like an impossibility. The Government has taken a firm stand for the control of foreign borrowing. By dint of much conversation Gilbert has gotten them to recognize their responsibility in this matter, and they are going wt it full tilt. No Reich or State borrowi ngs abroad, and only a very limited communal borrowing abroad, is the announced programme, and I think they will stick to it. The declining curve of unemployment in view of P. Benjamin Strong, Esq., May 20, 1928. - 4 the lessened activities of the communes, due to lack of money, is accordingly all the more encouraging. Coming back to your letter frog the "Mauretania" and its discussion of the December report, I note your comment on its length which was desperate, but it didn't seem practicable to reduce it and at the same time deal fully with the situation. Furthermore, it was greatly lengthened by the three annexes representing the correspondence between Gilbert and the Reich. This June we are working towards a 75 page report, whichwould be about one half the length of the December report. I was much interested in your comment on certain remarks in the credit section, in which the import of credit was likened to an import of ing lawful basis for expansion. I have also seen your subsequent correspondence on the subject with Morgan, this being his particular part of the report although of course we all go over all parts of the report carefully before they are published. I think the difference between you and us is small, and as you yourself indicate, it is largely a question of whether a bank is operating on a gold standard or a gold exchange standard. The heichsbank is certainly, in pert, operating on a gold standard, and any portion of these valuta that came to it and stayed with it, it seems to me formed a basis for currency expansion. The statement would doubtle have been better if qualified as you suggest, by indicating that the expansive effect was potential rather than automatic. At any rate, whatever the primary cause may have been, the total volume of circulation in the country has been expanding almost steadily since stabilization. Througeout 1926 and 1927 currency expansion kept about 500 million marks ahead of the 1 evel of the preceding year. In 1928 it is running about 450 million marks ahead, and the Reichshank from time to time has had May 20, 1928. Benjamin Strong, Esq., - 5 - to convert some of its devisen into gold, or to purchase gold, in order to maintain the 1,:gcl ratio of gold to circulation. To-clay is election day and tomorrow morning we shall be hearing some- thing about the composition of the new Reichstag, and of the new Government, which will naturally be of great interest for this organization. Faithfully yours, )-,1,0)/ 0 1. I f: TRANS FE R CO M. M YI-"i'EE 18 nun DE TEY.St.777. 17.R.T2.-73.23 TgLAP:InNE: TELEPHONE: NORDION 2ft;IIC4.I81:0 REPA.GE'NT, TtLAcp.ip.n.zrEr,:: November 5, 1928. the Bank on learning of your father's y to you and your brother and sister, nd a bit caught up with my work I reat shock and wrench it was to me a sudden relapse and was actually orld seems to me quite a different close association and friendship we e of the best things in my life, and the deral Reserve Bank have been by far the m the newspapers and periodicals the ave had'from various people, and the on the value of the groat services he internationally. While associatin0 a. to his achievemants,I have no intention elaborating them, as I coulel very well write down a few things that have occurr- cteristics, which, after all, you know /g LE COUETP, DES TRANSFERTS PAR? BEnraN 33 tossrmsrmt.ssr BE.RLIN, cht-4-:4 Benjamin Strong, Esq., November 6, 1928. 3 ly convincing, and what was equally important, gave the members of the Committee a great respect for his frankness and clearness. In his relations with people in Europe he left the .:iame impression. Count Volpi, whom I went to see two years ago when he vas still Finance Minister of Italy, started at once to talk about your father. as I can remember it, He said, as nearly "I have a wonderful regard for Governor Strong. I have met a great many men in various walks of life, but I have never met anyone who combined in such a remarkable way a broad understanding of the principles of finance, a complete disinterestedness, friendliness, and an earnest desire to be helpful': After all, it vas his human relationships, combined with his other qualities, which made possible many of the things which he accomplished. His own magnetic way, his affection for his friends and associates, whether Ministers of State or clerks in the Bank, called forth loyalty and responsiveness. Governor L!oreau and Dr Schacht, whom I went to see soon after I landed to tell them personally about his last illness, both expressed their affection for him he Reserve Bank aturally we talked said "we were we felt as if Heaohieved had a constantly But I had e would have nsibilities. November 6,1928. Benjamin Strong, Esq., 4 he could settle down in some agreeable place, suited to his health, enjoy life as such, -with occasional studies of contemporary proble'ms, and occasional' trips, and in this way develop the many tastes he had but which, for lack of time, opportunity and energy, necessarily remained largely latent. In this connection I think particularly of the expansive influ.ences of the trip you and he took to Japan, Java and India in 1920, which, however, were somewhat held in check by his eager desire first of all to master the financial problems of these countries. Finally, let me say how glad I am that I was in New York last month and had a chance of seeing him several times, and was able to join the little group at the hospital the morning he was operated on, and to learn something of what the future had in store for him had he lived. AS far as his work vent, it was finished, but the failure to realize this future was the really desolating tning about his death. Pith my warmest sympathy to you and your Mother and to Phil and Catherine, I am, Sincerely yours,