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RECORD Of PROCEEDINGS OF C O ^ H W G B OF COUNSEL OF ALL ISBBBAIi RESERVE BASKS
HELD IN WASHIiTSTCN, D. C., Off JUNE 9 AND 10, 1930.

She Conference convened on June 9, at 10 a.m. in the "board room of the
Federal Reserve Board in the Treasury Building, Washington, D. C» Those
present were :
Mr*
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr*
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

K* K. Carrick
W. S. Logan
C. H. Coe
J* S. Sinclair
James M. Toy
Sterling Newell
P. L. Holden
H. F. Strater
M. 8. Wallace
J. S. Walden
R. S. Parker
Carl Meyer
J. Gr. McConkey
A. Ueland
Sigurd Ueland
H. G. Leedy
E. B. Stroud, Jr.
Paschal Dreibelbis
A. C. Agnew
Walter Wyatt
B. M.e Wingfield
George B. Vest

Federal
Federal
Federal
Federal
Federal
Federal
Federal
Federal
Federal
Federal
Federal
Federal
Federal
Federal
Federal
Federal
Federal
Federal
Federal
Federal
Federal
Federal

Reserve
Reserve
Reserve
Reserve
Reserve
Reserve
Reserve
Reserve
Reserve
Reserve
Reserve
Reserve
Reserve
Reserve
Reserve
Reserve
Reserve
Reserve
Reserve
Reserve
Reserve
Reserve

Bank of Boston
Bank of Hew York
Bank of New York
Bank of Philadelphia
Bank of Philadelphia
Bank of Cleveland
Bank of Cleveland
Bank of Cleveland
Bank of Richmond
Bank of Richmond
Bank of Atlanta
Bank of Chicago
Bank of St. Louis
Bank of Minneapolis
Bank of Minneapolis
Bank of Kansas City
Bank of Dallas
Bank of Dallas
Bank of San Francisco
Board
Board
Board.

At the suggestion of the Chairman, Mr. Wyatt, the Conference first considered in what order it would take up the various matters on its program
and it was voted to proceed at onco to a consideration of the effect of the
decision in the ease of Early v. Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond*
As a part of the preliminary discussion it was developed that the Feck
eral Reserve Banks of Boston and of New York still reserve the right in their
check collection circulars to charge chocks to the account of the drawee "banks
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6ounscl for each Federal reserve bank <h6n proceeded to discuss
the effect of the decision in the Early case in his particular Federal Reserve District. At tho Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City one suit has
been threatened as a result of this decision upon the basis of the Federal Reserve Bank's collection circular as it existed prior to the change
in Regulation J of February 1, 1929. Several other Federal reserve banks
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•have had numerous inquiries arising out of the decision in tho Early case;
but it was said that in all of these cases xq> to this time Counsel for
the Federal reserve banks havo been successful in convincing opposing
counsel that the doctrine of the Early case is not applicable where the
Federal reserve bank did not reserve the right in its check collection
circular to charge checks to the reserve account of the drawee bank.
Amendments to Regulation J.
The Conference adjourned for lunch about 1 p.m. and reconvened
at 2:30 p.m., at which time it proceeded to a consideration of suggested
amendments to Regulation J, using as a basis a draft of Section V of Regulation J as prepared by Mr. Wyatt in July, 1929, The consideration of
amendments to Regulation J consumed the entire afternoon session which
lasted until 6:50 p.m., and the evening session from 8:30 p.m. until
11 p.m. After consideration and discussion of each paragraph of Section
V the conference voted tentatively to recommend the adoption of each
such paragraph substantially in the form as finally approved and as hereinafter set forth. In voting upon paragraph Ho. 4 as hereinafter set
forth, Mr. Stroud voted "no", and in voting upon paragraph Ho. 6, Mr.
leedy and Mr. Carrick voted "no". The Conference also voted tentatively




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to ?dcommend, amendments to paragraphs 1 and 3 of Section III of
Regulation J and amendments./ to paragraphs 2 and 3 of Section IV of Regulation J, as hereinafter set forth.
•Conference re Treasury Department Circular No. 176.
On the morning of Diesday, June 10, the Conference convened shortly
after 10:30 a.m. and discussed Treasury Department Circular No. 176 containing regulations governing the deposit of public monies and the payment of
Government warrants and checks. At 11 a.m. Mr. B. G. Hand, Commissioner of
Accounts and Deposits, and Mr. A. W. Starrett and Mr. E. J. Cunningham of
tho Treasury Department came into tho conference, which then, proceeded to
a consideration of a revised form of Treasury Department Circular No, 176
which the Department contemplates putting into effect. A number of sugh
gostions wore made with reference to the proposed revision and many of
these were informally agreed to by the representatives of the Treasury
Department and. the Counsel for the Federal reserve banks. No substantial
difference of opinion between tho Treasury Department and the Federal Unserve Bank Counsel developed with reference to the provisions of the proposed revision of the circular except as to sections 35 and 37. As to these
sections no agreement could he reached "between the representatives of the
Treasury Department and the Conference of Counsel, and after discussion
on motion of Mr. Agnew it was voted that the Conference pass over these
sections subject to the right of any Federal reserve bank to state its
position with relation thereto in letters addressed to the Secretary of
the Treasury.
The Conference adjourned for lunch at 1:50 p.m.



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Conforonco with Representatives of the Comptroller's Office.
The Conference reconvened, at 2:30 p.m. with Mr. F. G. Await, Deputy
Comptroller of the Currency, Mr. J. E. Pouts, Assistant Supervising Receiver
of the Division of Insolvent Banks, and Mr. George P. Barse, Counsel to the
Division of Insolvent Banks, present. An informal discussion then ensued
with reference to the effect of the decision in the case of Early v. Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond and with regard to the interpretation placed
by the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency on the opinion in this
paso. This discussion proceeded entirely along informal lines and an understanding "between the Comptroller's Office and the Counsel for the Federal
reserve banks was reached on several points "but no formal action was taken.
ftnflpdm«nts to Regulation J.
After the representatives of the Comptroller*s Office had left the
meeting the Conforonco again took up the proposed amendments to Regulation
J which had "been tentatively agreed upon the day before. Mr. Stroud moved
"that Regulation J as tentatively approved yesterday be now formally recommended for adoption and that Mr. Wyatt and Mr. Baker be authorized to make
any changes in punctuation or grammar as may bo deemed advisable and not
inconsistent with the action Of this Conference."
After a few changes in the phraseology of the proposed amendments to
Regulation J were agreed upon, Mr. Stroud's motion was carried, Mr. Wallace,
Counsel to the Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond voting "no" and representeetives of all other Federal reserve banks voting "aye"* Messrs. Ueland,
Leedy, Carrick, Wallace and Meyer made the following explanatory statements 98 to their votes;




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Mr.tfelandi-I vote in favor of the proposed resolution in deference
to the announced policy of the Federal Reserve Board upon the subject.
Mr. Leedy:- While voting in favor of the adoption of the proposed
amendments I wish to be recorded as not approving subsection (6)
of Section 5 of the proposed amendments for the reasons; first,
that such subsection in my judgment is contrary to the scheme
of the Federal reserve check collection system and second, because it seeks to afford protection to the Federal reserve banks
which they should not ask.
Mr. Carrick:- I vote in favor of the proposed amendments except that
I do not approve of subsection 6 of Section 5 because in my opinion it seeks to afford to the Federal reserve banks a protection
which they should not ask.
Mr. Wallace;- I voted "no" to the resolution because of objection to the
proposed expression in subsection 7 of Section 5 upon the ground that
it deprives Federal reserve banks of the power to give to the depositing bank and holders of checks a reasonable and proper protection
which such holders and depositing banks need and which the Federal
reserve banks could reasonably and safely afford.
Mr.typyer:-Although not approving of paragraph 7 of Section 5 I am
voting for its adoption because I think there should be uniformity
in the system and it appears that a large majority of the counsel
are in favor of the adoption of this paragraph.
Bie proposed amendments to Regulation J as finally approved for recommends^
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The Conference of Counsel recommends the following changes in
Regalation J:
SECTION III.
That paragraph 1 of Section III be amended by changing the words
"acceptable to the Federal Re serve Bank of the District in which such
nonmember banks are located" to read "acceptable to the collecting Fedy
eral reserve bank."
That paragraph 3 of Section III be amended by changing the words
"acceptable to the Federal Reserve Bank of tho District in nfoich such
nonmember bank is located" to road "acceptable to the collecting Federal
reserve bank."
SECTION IV.
That paragraph 2 of Section IV be amended by changing the period
at the end thereof to a comma and by adding the following words:
"provided, however, that the Federal reserve bank may
in its discretion refuse at any time to permit the withdrawal or other usetifcredit given for any item far
which the Federal reserve bank has not yet received payment in actually and finally collected funds."
That paragraph 3 of Section IV be amended by changing the period
at the end thereof to a comma and by adding the following words;
"provided, however, that the Federal reserve bank may
in its discretion refiiso at any time to permit the withdrawal or- other use of credit given for any item for
which the Federal reserve bank has not yet received payment in actually and finally collected funds."
SECTION V.
That Section V be amended to read as follows;




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"SECTION V. TERMS OF COLLECTION.
"The Federal Reserve Board hereby authorizes the
Federal reserve banks to handle such checks subject to
the following terms and conditions; and each member and
nonmember clearing bank which sends checks to any Federal
reserve bank for deposit or collection shall by such action be deemed (a) to authorize the Federal reserve banks
to handle such checks subject td the following terms and
conditions, (b) to warrant its own authority to give the
Federal reserve banks such authority, and (c) to agree to
indemnify any Federal reserve bank for any loss resulting
from the failure of such sending bank to have such authority.
"(l) A Federal reserve bank will act only as agent of
the bank from which it receives such checks and will assume
no liability except for its own negligence and its guaranty
of prior indorsements.
"(2) A Federal reserve bank may present such checks
for payment or send such chocks for collection direct to
the bank on which they aro drawn or at which they are payable, or in its discretion may forward them to another
agent with authority to present them for payment or send
them for collection direct to the bank on which they are
drawn or at which they are payable.
"(3) A Federal reserve bank may, in its discretion
and at its option, either directly or through or from
an ogont, accept in payment of or in remittance for such
chocks, cash, bank drafts, transfers of funds or bonk
credits, or other forms of payment or remittance, acceptable to the collecting Federal reserve bank. She Federal
reserve bank shall not be liable for the failure of the
drawee bank or any agent to pay or remit for such checks,
nor for any loss resulting from the acceptance from the
drawee bank or any collecting agent, in lieu of cash,
of any other form of payment or remittance authorized
herein, nor for the nonpayment of, or failure to realize
upon any bank draft or other medium of payment or remittance which may be accepted from the drawee bank or any
collecting agent.
"(4) Checks received by a Federal reserve bank which
are payable in its own district will ordinarily be forwarded or presented direct to the banks on which they are
drawn, and such banks will be required to remit or pay
therefor at par in such one or more of the forms of payment or remittance authorized under paragraph (3) hereof
may be acceptable to the Federal reserve bank.




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"(5) Checks received by a Federal reserve bank payable in other districts mill ordinarily be forwarded for
collection to the Federal reserve bank of the district
in which such checks are payable; provided, however, that
where arrange men ts can, be made satisfactory to the collecting bank or agent and to the Federal reserve bank of the
district in which such checks are payable, any such checks
may bo forwarded for collection direct to the bank on
which they are drawn or at which they are payable, or may
be forwarded for collection to another agent with authority
to present them for payment direct to the bank on which
they are drawn or at which they are payable. All such
checks shall be handled subject to the terms and conditions
of this Regulation.
"(6) Bank drafts received by a Federal reserve bank
in payment of or in remittance for checks handled under
the terms of this regulation will likewise be handled for
collection subject to all the terms and conditions of
this regulation.
"(7) The amount of any check for which payment in
actually and finally collected funds is not received
shall be charged back to the forwarding bank, regardless
of whether or not the chock itself can bo returned. In
such event, neither the owner or holder of any such.check
nor the bank which sent such check to the Federal reserve bank for collection shall have any right of recourse upon, interest in, or right of payment from, any
reserve balance, clearing account, or deposit account
of the drawoe bank or of any bank to which such checks
have been sent for collection, in the possession of
the Federal reserve bank. Ho draft, authorization to
chargo, or other order, upon funds of a paying, remitting or collecting bank in tho possession of a Federal
reserve bank, issued for the purpose of settling items
handled under the terms of this Regulation will be
paid, acted upon or honored after receipt by such Federal reserve bank of notice of suspension or closing
of such paying, remitting or collecting bank."




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The subject of the revision of the check collection circulars of

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the Federal reserve tanks to make them conform to the changes in Regulation J which would "be made if the Federal Reserve Board should adept the
recommendations of the Conference was then considered. Upon Mr. Agnew's
motion it was
"RESOLVED, That the Chairman of the Governor's
Conference be requested to instruct the Standing Committee on Collections to prepare a tentative draft of
a uniform check collection circular embodying therein
the suggested amendments to Regulation J, the preparation of such tentative draft to he made in collaboration with a subcommittee of Counsel to the Federal reserve banks (such sub-committoe to be appointed by Counsel
to the Federal Reserve Board and of which sub-committee
Counsel to the Federal Reserve Board shall bo a member ox
officio), with the understanding that such tentative draft,
when prepared, shall be submitted to the Federal reserve
banks for criticism and/or approval pending the adoption
by the Federal Reserve Board of the suggested amendments
to Regulation iT."
A discussion then ensued with regard to the uniform policy pertaining
to chock collections which was romamended by the Conference of Counsel and
adopted by the Conference of Governors at their meetings in April 1929. The
discussion pertained particularly to the question whether it was necessary
to adopt any farther resolution expressing the sense of the Conference as
to the interpretation of the uniform policy with reference to the point
raised in the letter addressed to Governor Young by Governor Harding of the
Federal Reserve Bank of Boston dated October 19, 1929. After some discussion
it was the consensus of opinion that no action on this subject by this
Conference is necessary.
After a vote of appreciation to the Chairman for calling the Conference
and for conducting the proceedings, the Conference adjourned at 6 p.m.




George B. Vest
Secretary.