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FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD
washington

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ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE TO
THE FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD

August 22, 1935.
Subject: Proposed Revision of Regulation Q.

Dear Sir;
There are inclosed herewith six copies of a tentative draft
of a revision of Regulation Q.

It will be appreciated if you will

study this regulation and furnish to the Board your comments and
suggestions thereon at the earliest practicable date, not later than
thirty days from the date of this letter.
Your special attention is invited to the definition of savings deposits in subsection (e) of section II of the inclosed draft
of the regulation. As you know, the Banking Act of 1933 prohibited
the payment of interest on demand deposits and the payment of time
deposits before maturity but did not make these restrictions applicable to savings deposits.

Accordingly, savings deposits are a favor-

ed class of deposits which offer the greatest temptation for improper
classification because they are the only deposits with respect to
which member banks have the privilege of making payment on demand
with interest and, at the same time, of carrying reserves of only 3
per cent.
It is believed that the vagueness of the present definition
facilitates improper classification to a certain extent.



The re-

quirement that savings deposits consist of funds accumulated for
"bona fide thrift purposes" has not proved satisfactory from a
practical standpoint because of the great difficulty of determining whether this requirement is met by the facts of particular
cases.
In addition to the improper classification of demand deposits and time deposits as savings deposits, there has been considerable abuse of savings deposits in certain sections of the
country by using them as checking accounts through the method of
drawing negotiable or non-negotiable orders on such deposits payable to third parties, and sending such orders through the regular
banking channels for collection without the presentation of the
pass book.

This abuse has usually been coupled with the practice

of leaving the pass book with the depository bank, despite the
Board's ruling that a deposit may not be classified as a savings
deposit if the pass book is retained by the bank.
On April 12, 1955, the Board addressed an inquiry (X-9176)
to the chairmen of all the Federal Reserve banks requesting their
views as to whether some modification should be made in the ruling
that savings pass books may not be retained by the depository bank.
The replies to this inquiry disclosed a wide divergence of opinion
regarding this question but all of the banks stated that they felt
that certain exceptions to the rule should be made.
For many years the Board has endeavored unsuccessfully to
prevent the evasion of the reserve requirements through the device




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of classifying interest bearing personal checking accounts as savings deposits.

Since the enactment of the statute prohibiting the

payment of interest on demand deposits the temptation to evade the
law in this manner is much greater and will become increasingly
greater as business revives and competition for bank deposits becomes more active.
For these reasons it would seem especially desirable to
have a definition of savings deposits which can be effectively enforced and which will close the door to abuses.
The present would seem to be an especially favorable time to
accomplish these objectives because there is less competition for
time deposits than normally and because there is every reason why
the banks should be glad to be relieved of paying interest on personal checking accounts.

Moreover, with the present large amount

of excess reserves it would cause no sudden hardship to force deposits which have heretofore been classified for reserve purposes as
time deposits to be classified as demand deposits.
The definition contained in the attached draft of the regulation has been prepared in an endeavor to meet the evasions and
abuses mentioned above and to provide a workable and effective basis
of classification of savings deposits.

It will be noted that the re-

quirement that savings deposits shall consist of funds accumulated
for "bona fide thrift purposes" has been omitted from the definition
and that there has been substituted a requirement that savings deposits




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shall consist of funds of one or more Individuals or of an organization not operated for profit.

It is hoped that this restriction

upon the class of depositors whose funds may be classified as savings deposits may eliminate most of the cases in which funds have been
improperly classified as savings deposits.
Paragraph (l) of the new definition is essentially the same as
paragraph (2) of the existing definition.

Paragraphs (2) and (3) of

the new definition are designed to liberalize the requirement that
the pass book must be presented whenever a withdrawal is made and the
Board's ruling that the pass book may not be retained by the bank, so
as to care for certain cases of hardship and inconvenience which
would be caused by a rigid enforcement of such requirements, and
still to place such restrictions on the making of withdrawals as will
prevent the use of savings deposits as checking accounts.

It should

be noted that paragraph (3) prohibits the making of withdrawals from
savings deposits by negotiable instruments payable to or indorsed to
a third party.

The only exception to this prohibition is in cases

where a depositor makes a withdrawal through the agency of a bank, in
which case, the collecting bank may be the payee of a negotiable instrument drawn upon the depository bank.
In connection with the proposed definition of savings deposits
which has been incorporated in the draft of Regulation Q sent you
herewith, the Board will be glad to receive your comments as to the
desirability of changing the period at the end of paragraph (3) of




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the definition to a semicolon and adding, with the appropriate number,
either or both of the following two paragraphs:
PARAGRAPH A
If more than one withdrawal be made from such deposit
during any one calendar week, no interest shall be paid
on any part of such deposit for the calendar month in
which Saturday of such week falls.
PARAGRAPH B
The amount in such deposit plus the amount in any
other savings deposit belonging to the same depositor in
the same bank does not exceed #0,000.
paragraph A would be inserted for the purpose of preventing
the classification as savings deposits of deposits which have a large
amount of activity.

In some cases several withdrawals a week are

made from savings accounts.

It would seem that such accounts should

be classified as demand checking accounts but if they are classified
as savings deposits the proposed paragraph would prevent the payment
of interest during the month in which the excessive number of withdrawals is made.

It is believed that the proposed limitation of not

more than one withdrawal during any one calendar week would be sufficiently liberal to accommodate persons who find it necessary to draw
upon their savings accounts and who are accustomed to paying their
bills on a weekly basis.

However, if you should feel that the prin-

ciple of limitation upon the number of withdrawals during a given
period would be desirable but believe that a different number of withdrawals during a particular period would be more satisfactory, please
submit your opinion upon this matter to the Board.




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Paragraph B, which limits the amount in a savings deposit to
$10,000, would supplement the limitation upon the class of depositors who may maintain savings deposits by adding en amount limitation
on such deposits.

Although any such limitation is open to the crit-

icism that the amount is arbitrary, the question arises whether
such a limitation might be of some value in preventing the classification as savings deposits of deposits which do not consist of
funds of the type which it is believed Congress had in mind in enacting the provisions regarding savings deposits.

If you believe that

such an amount limitation is desirable but think that a different
amount would be mare advisable, your suggestions regarding the
matter will be appreciated.
As indicated above, however, your comments and suggestions will
be appreciated not only with regard to the draft of the definition
of savings deposits but also with regard to the other provisions of
the inclosed tentative form of the regulation.
The tentative draft of the regulation has been prepared by the
Board's staff but not considered by the Board and, in order to expedite the matter and with the permission of the Board, is being sent
to you at the same time that it is being submitted to the members of
the Board for consideration.
Very truly yours,

Chester Morrill,
Secretary.
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