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FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD WASHINGTON ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE TO THE FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD X-4813 March 22, 1927 SUBJECT: Topic for Governors' Conference. Dear Sir: The Federal Reserve Board has voted to place upon the program of the next conference of Governors for their consideration the question whether notes held by a member bank bearing the endorsement of officers of nonmember banks are eligible for rediscount at Federal reserve banks. This question was the subject of the Board's letter of February 17, 1927, X-4794. A copy of this letter together with copies of the replies thereto are enclosed herewith for your information. Very truly yours, Walter L. Eddy, Secretary. Enclosures. W GOVERNORS OF ALL FEDERAL RESERVE BANKS. FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD X-4794 WASHINGTON ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE TO THE FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD February 17, 1927. Dear Sir: The Board has been asked by one of the Federal reserve banks to rule upon the question whether certain notes held by a member bank bearing the endorsement of officers of nonmember banks .are eligible for rodiscotk!t at Federal reserve banks. It appears that the menbor bank in question solicits loans through officers of its correspondent nonmember banks. Tno notes are made payable to tho local ba~~ officer and arc endorsed by him to the ~ember ban..~ which allows him part of the interest on the loan in payment for his services. The nmne of the nonmember bank does not ap~ear on the notes either as payee or as endorser. Before ruling upon the question whether notes of this kind should be considered eligible or desirable for rediscount, the Board wishes to be fully informed as to the extent and prevo.lenco of the practice of making loans in this way. You ate accordingly requested to advise the Board whether notes originating in the manner described or under similar circumstances have ever been presented to your bank for rediscount and if so, whether or not they were rediscounted. The Board would also be glad to be advised as to the extent to·which practices of this kind prevail in your Federal Reserve District. Very truly yours, D. R. Crissinger. Governor. TO GOVERNORS OF ALL F. R. BANKS EXCEPT KANSAS CITY. X-4013-·o. c 0 p y FEDERAL 0 F R:ZSERVE B ;,_ N K B 0 S T 0 N February 19, 1927. Dear Sir: Receipt is ac:mowledgod of your circular letter of FebruarJ 17, X-4794, a:1d in repl¥ I would sa~r tbat no instance such as that referred to has ever come to the attention of this ba"lk and,as far as we know, there is !lo ?racticc of this kind cxisti:1g in this district. Should any note such as described in your letter be offered us for rediscount, we wo,lld, before co:1s ide ring the apJlication, ask counsel for his oi)inio:1 as to wl:ccther tho tra:1saction involves a:1y violation'of ~aragra~h (c) of Section 22 of the Federal Reserve ~ct. Very trulr yours, (s) ~. P. G. Hardi:1g, Governor. Hon. D, R. Crissinger, Governor, Federal Reserve Board, WashL1gto;1, D. C•. • c 0 p y X-4813-·b,. FEDERAL :lESER~ B~"X OF NE!l Y):aK February 25, 1927. Sirs: In reply to your letter of February 17 (X-4794), we do not r0call a:J.y cc:Lse in which notes bearing the endorsements of officers of non-me1:1ber banks have been offered us for rediscount b;r member banks. We are quite certain that no such practice as that described in your letter exists or h~s existed in this district. Very truly yours, (Signed) L. F. SAILER Deputy Governor • Federal Reserve Board, Washington, D. c. c0 p y x-4313-c FEDERAL RESERVE :BANK OF PHILADELPHIA February Dear Governor Criss in,c:•er: In reuly to y-our letter X-4794, I am writing to inform you that .notes negotiated in the manner described by you have never been presented to this bank for rediscount ~•d we have never found a practice of this kind in this district. Very truly yours, (s) W. H. Hutt, Deputy Governor. Hon. D. R. Crissinger, Governor, Federal Reserve Board, Washington, D. C. 19, 1927. X-4813-·d. c 0 p y February 23, 1927. Mr. D. R. Crissinger, Governor, Federal :aeserve Board, Washington, D. c. Dear Governor Crissinger: Reference is made to the Board's letter X-4794, dated Feb~~y 17, on the subject of the eligibility for rediscount at a Federal Reserve Bank of notes held by member banks bearing the endorsement of officers of non-member banks. We have not lmd an;r paper of that kind offered to us for rediscount or as collateral. I Very truly yours, (Signed) JC. R. FANCHER Governor. ERF. ZD'D • '. (COPY) FEDERAL RZSERVE BA...lllK OF R! CHMOND X-4813-e February 21, 1927 Federal Reserve Board, Washington, D. C. • Gentlemen:· We have received and considered the Board 1 s letter X-4794, under date of February 17, in which the Board expressed the wish to be informed as to the extent and prevalence of the practice with certain member ba"iks of soliciting loans through its corres~onaent nonmember banks and obtaining paper bearing the endorsement of officers of such nonmember banks. To ou:r knowledge, we have no such paper, and if such paper had come to us with the knowledge, we should have made. most careful inquiry into the circumstances, siuce the practice, in our jndgment, apnears _one to be condemned whether the payer may or may not be tecffi1ically eligible for rediscount at Federal Reserve Batiks. Very truly yours, (Signed) Geo. J. Seay, Governor. x-4313-f FEDERAL OF RESERVE :SANK ATLANTA Februar:' 28, 1927. Mr. D. R. Crissi~~er, Gover~or, Federal Reserve Bo~rd, Washi:1gton, D. C. Dear Sir: Reference is made to :Soard I,Qtter X-4794 under date of FebruarJ 17th, regardiP~ the solicitation through officers of correspondent nonmember ban:ts of loans by member ba...'1.ks, etc. To the best of our knowledge no notes of this character have been offered to the parent bank or our New Orleans Branch, and should it be ascertained that such paper was offered to us it would be our policy to disa~::>orovo suc..."'l items. We do not think that tho practice referred to in your letter is prevalent in this district, however, this is merely an expression of o~inion as we have no first ha1d information. Yours vor:l truly, (s) M. E. Wellborn, Govcr:::tor. (CuP~:) OE'EDEP..AL RES:ii.RVE EMf!.: OF CHICAGO X-4813-g February 24, 1927 Federal Reserve Board, Washington, D. C. Dear Sirs: Attention: Honorable D. R. Crissinger, Governor. In further reference to your letter X-4794, dated February 17th, and in which letter reference is made to a case wherein a certain me~ ber bank solicits loans through officers of its correspondent non-member b~~, involving notes made payable to the local bank officer and endorsed by him to the member bank, you ask for advice on two points as follows: 1. As to whether notes ori~inating in the manner describea, or under similar cirdarnstances, have ever been presented to this oank for rediscount and if so, whether or not they rvere rediscoi.l."'lted. In response I ampleased to advise you that we are unable to find any cases VTherein notes of the class referred to, or of simJ.lar character, have been offered to us for rediscount. 2. The Board also inquires as to the extent to which practices of this kind prevail in this district. We are not aware of the prevalence. of such ~ractices, and since the receipt of your letter have carefully reviewed the examiners' re~orts on approximately twenty-five member banks whose relations with their country torrespondents might have led to such practice, but find no evidence of its existence. Very truly yours, (Signed) J. B, McDougal Governor. X-4513-h FtnE~At RESERVE BAFK 0 F ST . L 0 U I S Fcbruar; 25, 1927. Dear Governor Crissinger: Replying to your letter of the 17th, X-4794, you are informed that no notes originating in the manner described or under similar circumstances havo ever been prcscn tod to this bru1k for re-discount. We do not believe practices of the kind described prevail at all i;;1 this District. Ou.r :Memphis Branch has had one or two notes offered to it whiCh did bear evidence on their face tr~t they were either acquired from a non-member bank or wore tal.cen indirectly thru a nonmember ba~k as an acco~~odation. In each such case, after ~1 investigation, the notes wore t~ccn up ~- tho member bank re-discounting them. Very truly yours, ( s) Q. M. Atteber~r, Dc:;m t~· Go vc r:1or • Federal Reserve ~oard, Washi~ton, D. C. Attention; Governor Crissinger. COPY X-4813-i. FEDERAL RESZRVE :S.A1UC OF MINNEAPOLIS. February 24, 1927. Hon. D. R. Crissinger, Governor, Federal Reserve :Soard• Washington, D. c. Dear Governor Crissingert This will ac~~owledge receipt of your letter (X4794). Since 1923 we have not rediscounted nor have there been offered to us any notes such as described in your letter. Previous to 1923 When we were authorized by the :Soard to discount paper originating in non member b&~ks, we had a few notes offered to us bearing the endorsawent of individuals associated with 'non ~embP.r b&1ks, and did di~count such notes. te, however• gave but little consideration to such endorsements. tn other wordsi we looked to the maker rather than the endorser. Xn doing so, we reasoned that if a note wa~ eligible and desirable. the fact that an individual had endorsed or guaranteed the paper, could in no way affect 1ts eligibility. Yours respect;t'ully, (Signed) R. A. YOUNG . Governor. RAY-C t:.JO (COPY) FZDERAL R:.:;E:;;IW2 J3A:TI<: OF KP..!,TS.AS C-ITY X-4813-j March 4, 1927 Fed6ral Reserve BoarQ, Washington, D. C. Gentlemen: Attention - Governor Crissinger. Replying to your letter of February 16th, which is part of a file started on December 31, 1926, by Mr. , then President of the National Bank of ------------------------- In order to answer intelligently the questions you ask in your letter of February 15th, I deferred answer until after a moeting of tho Managi:.1g Directors of our branches, which was held here yesterday. In the meantime I advised them to come prepared as to facts of tho amotUlt of ~aper now under rediscount with us that bears earmarks as having come from a non-member bank~ Since conferring with them, I cru1 say to you that I do not believe there is any paper in this .bank that can possibly be cons trued as comi:::1g from a. non-member banl{;. For further discussion I will take the case of Mr. at· ,, and this is on all fours with nearly every so-called live stoCk bank at live stocl~ centers, meaning by that, banks that are located at public stock yards. Naturally their business is with the larger live stock operators, scattered over the ra...-.ges and feeding sections of our District. In the case of Mr. , instead of sendi:1g a man from his own ,bank out into Western Nebraska, to inspect loans for which ap')lications had been made to him by live stoCk handlers, he selected a man in that section of the country to represent him. He selected a man who was president of a state non-member bank, with the distinct understanding that these loans were no uart of the bank's business. The man inspects the cattle, values them,-rnakes the loan, looks after the cattle during the 1 s ba...'1k informed of the grazing or feeding season, and keeps Mr. progress that is being made with the cattle during the life of this loan. For this service Mr. allows the man he has SQlccted one percent or ofttimes t~o percent on the amount of interest that is charged. These loans are always too large ever to be taken into any 1 s bank, the small country banks. The money is furnished by Mr. notes are drawn to his representative and endorsed by the r~resentative with recourse, bearL1g, of course, in this way the guarantee of the ma:1 who reoresents him. Predicated upon what I have stated to be the facts, I c~ot but feel that this is eligible paper. I ltnow a great number of X-4813-j t-:J-J iiho hove be; on doL1g this throughout their ·.-~hole banking careers; indeed, I hnvo done it r.iysclf ·-rh0:1 I "'l'D.S in tho co~.1norcial be.!L.dng business. I think it is the proper ·.-ra'J for a men ':'Tho specializes in live stock loaas to r.lcl<o his loa11s this 17ay, thc:1 have his inspectors go out occasionally a."ld check u~ on his re-presentatives who are o:1 the ground, and satisfy himself that his interests are being properly tcken care of. banl~crs Uo'l7, in the case of Mr. , if he had selected a man in that neighborhood who '.7as not con:1ected with a bank, had bad the paper drarn o:1 Mr. 's forms and taken the loan in to his ba:.1k, I can:1ot help but feel that it would be eligible for rediscoU-"lt. I k:1ow fron my ~c.1o·.-:ledge of the situation that these loans are not made T?rirnarily · for tho :?Uruoso of rediscounting with the Federal Reserve Ba..'12:c, a...'ld they are seldo~ offered to us ~'ltil a considerable period of the note has run, and then onl~r '.7hen some emergency comes into the bank's business and it :leeds to rcdis count. Wnat I m~ trying to get at is that because a note ecars the endorsenent of a man ~ho is the president of a non-nember bank, this circwnsta."lce :aced not necessarily make that note ineligible. Whenever vre find that a oenber ba~ is doing that, we refuse to take the paper. We had a.n outsta.."lding case of this kind in a ba:uc at , where the man was coveri:~ un the makers of the notes, maki:1g the notes on the ba:.lk 1 s fo'i-rns, but 11hen we discovered that the makers of these notes, or the endorsers of tht:i:l '7'-ere the officers of a non-member bo:.1J::, and that the proceeds had been passed to the cre~it of a no~-member bo:.~t we at o:1co refused to take the :1otes, l:llld in this special case the practice has boon broken up. ---- Each one of our Managinb' Directors told me durL1g the co:lference yesterda.y that they arc following at the branches exactly the sane rule that ..-...e have laid down here at the ho~ office and that no:!:l-member bank paper is kept out of our rediscounts. The point I want you to rule upon is that because a note bea.rs the endorsement of a wan i1ho is the president or an officer of a non-me~ ber ba:'ll: need not :1ecessarily make that note ineligible for rediscount, ~hen upon i:lvestigation ~e find that the note was made in good faith to the holdL1g :neober bank and has no relation to, or clai:;n U-::>on, the nonoc<::tber bank. I hope I have made myself clear in this nutter, and while it is :10 longer especially vi t.:tl to us because, as I said, I believe we now have no such paper in the ·oank t?f this District; yet, your exai!liners apparently still rai~e the question of whether '"e are not taking non-neober ba~ pa~er ~here they find a note bearing the endorseoent of a president or officer of a non-oeobcr b~ik. I reiterate that ~henever ~e find upon investigation that the notes are made on practically the sa~e line as those of Mr. 's, and there are several - possibly one or two at every live stock ce:..1ter tha.t make their pc.per this ;:a.y ... I hope you rrill realize that you are goi:l€; to X-4813-j -3- de:1y, first to the li vo s toe:: interests and also to the '·.1e:.1ber ba~1ks located at stock yc..rds, a great deal of thG service of the Federal 3.eserve Sys ten by ::1£\ldng a ruling that such paper is ineligible. Of course, Mr. - - - - - could have chosen another r:1a.."l out there, but often this local banker is the best ::1an, and it is for that reaso:1 he is chosen, but if he is acting in good faith and Hr. is actL1g i:1 good faith, ~7hic.'1. ·:·e ascertained, I feel the ~aper should be classed as eligible. I have the honor to rewa.in, Very truly yours , (Signed) W. J. Bailey Governor. (COPY) FED:E...'lAL RES:::RVE :B.Alm OF DALLAS X-4813-k February 23, 1927 Federal Reserve Board, D. c. ~ashingto~, GeLJ.tlenen: Attention Governor D. R. Crissillger. Thi~ wili a~~owledg~ receipt of Board's letter X-4794, dated February 17, 1927, relative to eligibility and desirability of notes offered for rediscount by ner:1ber banks and which are nayable to and bear the e~dorseiJent of officers of non-:me;nber banks, though' such LJ.on-;ne:nber banks do not themselves endorse them. Replying to the Board's inquiry I a~ glad to say that ,-e cannot recall a sL~gle i~stance where pa~er of this character has been offered to this b~>k for rediscount and we hope that none ~ill be offered in the future. Inasmuch as our attention has never been called to loa~s of this sort in this district it is our opinion that it is not a co~on practice here, but to the contrary if there are a~y they are few in n~ ber. t Wbere the proceeds of the loan are used for a purpose that would render it eligible, while it is possible that the endorsement of officers of ~on-menber ba~ might be merely incidental, under the circumstances stated in the Board's letter where the endorsing qfficers of, non~member ba~~s have a. pe~~iary interest through a division of earnings received from such loans, ~rima facie the oatter of eligibility is questionable, to say the least. In addition to this, it is apparent that this practice should readily result in the extension of unsound credit which v.ould be still further aggravated if the paper could be passed on to Federal Reserve E&~cs for rediscount. It is al.so conceivablo that through separate agreer.lents loans that were in fact made at the instance of non-member baru~ might in this ma~ner be cw~ouflaged with a view of making thew technically eligible for rediscount at Federal Reserve Batiks which would not be the case if they bore the actual endorse~ent of such non-member ba:u~. In substance, it is our opinion that loans of this character should not be encouraged by a ruliYJg that would :::-!Ellce the~J. eligible for rediscount by a Federal Reserve Bnr.k. Yours ver;i truly (Signed) L~~~n p. Talley Governor. COPY FEDERAL RESERVE E~TC OF DALLAS. X-4813-k-1 March 18, 1927. Federal Reserve Board, Washington, D. C• Gentlemen I Attention Vice Governor Edmund Platt. I have your letter of March 14, in reply to mine of February 23.- a."ld it is apparent that we are discussing two separate propositions, one being a legitimate loan for an eligible purpose and the other a subterfuge to evade legal loan limitations and to use the rediscount facility in a manner not conter1lJ>lated by law. • I fully agree with you that in a number of instances the resources of banks are not sufficient to finance their larger custo~ers. It is also a fact, as you state, that frequently banks in the larger towns and cities make loans direct to customers of smaller banks and this is particularly true where the smaller banks have already loaned such customers up to their legal limit. Under such circumstances where it is a legitimate transaction and the proceeds are used for an eligible purpose, the notes betng offered for rediscount by a member bank, apparently there can be no sound reason for discriminating against them merely because they bear the endorsement of an officer of a non-member bank. In other words, the matter of eligibility and acc91)tabili ty should a.lways be governed by the facts in the particular case. On the other hand, it is conceivable that a nonmember bank might enter into an arrangement with its cor:t·espondent member bank to make loans for its account with a separate agreement to provide for them at maturity, thus violating the spirit, if not the letter, of the law with reference to its legal loan limit and, furthermore, enjoying indirectly the use of the rediscount facility of the Federal Reserve Bank. If the loans are in fact made at the instance of the member bank, instead of the non-member bank, apparently there is no g9od reason for making them payable to an individual who is an officer of the non-member bank and, in our • 00PY - 2 X-1813-k-1 judgment, the fact that they are made payable to him, instead of to the member bank which is sup?osed to have made the loan, should place the Federal Reser~e Bank u1on inquiry as to the legitimacy of the transaction. It is our further thou&~t that it is not a sound practice for a member bank to solicit loru1s and, as I stated in my previous letter, where the officer of a non-member bank has a pecuniary interest throu&~ a division of discount or otherwise there would be an incentive through the use of the rediscount facility to~uf~~~ xnso~1d credit. I hope that this will give you a clearer understanding of the idea that I intended. to express in my previous letter and it is still my opinion that nothing would be gained through a ruling of the Board on this subject as tho matter of cli6iJility and credit acceptability would have to be determined by the actual facta in each case. (Signed) LYNN P. TAlth~. Governor. RES~RV:S FEDERAL 0 :t S A l-'! F R _'\. ?T c! sc 0 February 25, 1927. Federal Reserve Board, Washi~gto~, D. C. Dear Sirs: In reoly to your letter of Februar~· 17th (X-4794), you are i~formcd t~t it is not a g~noral practice in this district for the officers of b~iks to mru{e commercial loans for correspon~cnt banks and to receive commission for their services. We camtot recall any insta.:'lco in wnich a :10tc was offered to us for discount, drawn payable to officers of a non-member bru1k. Had such paper been submitted, however, ~~d had we detected tho fact that the endorsers were officers of non-mmnbcr b~~ks, we would have inquired into tho purpose of making tho loa..• in such form, to determine, first, whether the member b~~k was ap~lying for funds of the Federal Reserve Ea~~ with the object of extending its business beyond ordinary channels, and, secondly, whether the member b~~k ap~lying for the discount was acti~ as agent of a non-member bank • .A.s ~roumay real~zc, it is quite a custom for city ba.~lcs to gra:1t relief to country corros")o:::ldents b~r "9Urchasing custoi]lers 1 notes without recourse, or by making direct loa•1s, ~articularl:i in the case of excess lines, to customers of country correspondents. Tho for.m whic~ these loans truce v~rics quite considerably. Some city bo.~~-:s require, wherever ...,ossiblc, that the loan s:i1all be made on its own form of '9romissory note. In other instances, thc~r require that the loans shall be made on the foiT.l of the corrcs;::>ondent b~•k, dr~wn to the order of the borrower or to the order of the country b~~~. or, in rare instuncos, to the order of officers of such count~· ba~. Whether or not sucll notes would be endorsed without recourse would depend upon urrangements agreed upon. Yours very truly, (s) Jno. U. Calkins, Governor.