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W, P. 8. HARDING, GOYB-1
PAUL II. WARBURG, Yla& . .YIIIi.uR
FRIDERIC A. DELANO
ADOLPH C. II ILLER
CHARLES ll. HAMLIN

EX·OP'FICIO M&M8aRa

WlLLIAM Gl. McADOO
SECRETARY OF THI TREASURY

CHAJRIIAJII

JOHN SKELTON WILLIAMS
COIIPTROLLIR OF THE CURRENCY

11. PARKIR WILLIS, SICRITAaT
SHIRIIAN P. ALLEN • .UIT. IICBITART

FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD

AIID FISCAL ACiiNT
A.DDRa88 RaPt.Y TO

WASHINGTON

FBDBRAL RESERVE !BOARD

March

4~

1918.

Dear Sir:
I enclose herewith copy of a I-roposed bill Vlhich would authorize

any state bank becoming a national bank by conversion, and which at
tha time of

~ch

conversion is conducting a separate savings depart-

ment under authority of the laws of the state in which it is located,
to continue, after becamimg a national banking association, to conduct
or operate such savings department as a separate department of the bank
and to invest deposita received in the savings department
with the laws of the state.

in~ccordance

This idea grew out of a conference which

the Board held sometime ago with a caxmittee of state bankers .from
California, where the state laws as to reserves are such as to make it
practically impossible for state banks to beccme nembers of the

Fede~al

Reserve System, and it seems, because of the situatlon in California,
that many of the savings banks in that state would like to becnna
national banks rather than to apply for

~embership

as

st~te

banks in

the Faderal Reserve System.
I enclose also copy of a letter from the ~ounsel cf the Board in

which he discusses the bill at some length.

f:he Board would' be pleased

t·o have an expres.sion of your views regarding the ;r'>pOsC;d legislation.
Very truly

yours~

Governo.r.
ChG.inmn of the Board 1
Fede~l Reserve Bank of



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FEDERAL :RESERVE BOARD.··

M.n.. Elliott

WASHINGTON

'G.ounseL
FebDuary 23, 1918P

My dear a'overnor:;
T,!le committee representing sta.vings bta.nks ;).n California which
expects to come to Wta.shington about the twenty-eighth will prob~bly again
raise t~e question of procuring i:l.ll amendme1:1t which will enable savings
banks to convert into natio~l banks and to retain their separate savings
department.
in a conference held with members of
-ited Washington sometime ago, it developed that
Ce.liforn~oa. ma.ny of the st:Lvings banks would like
and not merely to become members of the Federi:l.l

the committee which visthe situation ie such i:n
to become nationd.l bd.nks
Reserve System.

The prirtcipoa.l reason assigned for this is that the laws of
Co:~.litorni(;l. are sb dravth as to vest little or no discretion in the superintendent of banks, and are, the ref ore, unust:u:L11y :rigid and not adaptable
to changing circumstt:.~.nces.
The superintendent of 'banks is, I.Laztl in•
formed, opposed to having discretionary powers vested_ in him.
.
L suggest /t~ one of the committee that it might be well to
have prepared a revision of the Galifornia statutes eliminating those
provisions which have been found to be unsatisfta.ctory, and retaining those
which are believe_d to:. afford the best safeguards to the depositor.
My
thought was that the Board would desire to have this in considering any
possible amendment to the Federo:~.l Reserve Act relating to savings accounts
or savings departments.

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The proposed bill forwarded by the committee, which is hereto
attache<!., is not drd.wn along the lines that ·I had expected it to be. This
provides for the creation of departmental banks.
Xt does not accomplish
the purpose which I understood the committee to have, since the member
banks continue t~ operate under their State charters d.nd will, of course1
be subject to State laws.
I am C<a.lling this bill to the Board's attention merely because
it will prob~bly be brought up for discussion if the Board, or ~ committee
Ih this connection, I
of the Board, meets the committee from California.
am taking the liberty of submitting for the Board's consideration, a bill
permitting State banks to.become converted into national banks and to re•
tain and operate separate savings departments.
The plan is somewhat analogous to -Section Slss·or the Revised Statutes, which authorizes State banks
having broa.nches which beco~e converted into nt:.~.tion~l bt:.~.nks to continue to




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operate such

br~nches.

I believe that the passage of such a bill would be of assistance
in bringing about a coordination of State and national banking powers. It
is undoubtedly, true that the customers .of a bank having established relations•w:jlth a particular institution, prefer in most cases to carry on all
of their banking operations with that institution.
Provision has already
been ~de for the operation of a trust depdrtment by national banks. The
amendment recommended by the Board, if passed, will broaden the powers of
national banks so as to place them in a position to compete more success•
fully with trust companies.
It seems to me to be entirely consistent with the purposes of
the act to ~ke similar provision for the savings bank business.
The
decision in the case of Bank vs. Fellows has recognized the right of Congress to vest national banks with any powers which are enjoyed by competing institutions.
I! such banks can operate a savings department, a
commercial department and a trust department, they would be in a position
to afford pr~ctica.lly any accommodation desired to their customers.
I .. do not think i:t necessary or desirable to d.Ssign a fixed
amount of capitttl to each department, but assets belonging to each department should be segregated and the opertttions of each department conducted
separately.
You will recall th~t the originul House bill provided for a
separate sAvings department, but this was eliminated primarily because of
the difficulty in working out the details of operation in a wd.y which would
meet the situation in each of the severa.l States.
Under the plan proposed
in the accompanying bill, savings bank departments could be conducted in
accordance with Sta.te l~ws, subject to regulation by the Board in those
States in which proper laws h~ve been enacted, and where the State laws iro
not afford proper protection, the Board can by regulation, adopt the necessary safeguards.
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!Lbelieve that such a bill will make ~t an easier matter to work
out a proper basis of reserve requirements.
Lrecommend the accompanying
bill to the consideration of the B~rd.
Respectfully,
)4.. O~ELLIO'IT,

OounsEfl.
Hon. W.P.Q.Harding,
Federal Reserve Board.




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I\E IT ENACTED BY THE SENATE AND HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES'

•

OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IN CONGRESS ASSEMB~D, That

"Any bank incorporated by speei~l law or organized under the general law of any State which becomes a
national banking association by conversion under authority of Section 5154, Revised S~tutes, and which at the
time of such conversion is conducting a spparate &avings
department under <:~.uthority of the laws of the State in
wh1ch such bank is located, may continue, after becoming
a national banking association, to conduct or operate such
Si:I.Vings department as ct.. separate department of the bank'
and may invest deposits received in such department in
accordance with the laws of the State; Provid~.d, however •
That the Federal Reserve Board, by regulation, may determine to what extent investments shall be made in any particular class of,security or property which savings banks
are permitted by the laws of the state to invest in, and
in those sttttes the laws of whichdo not prescribe the
character of investments to be made bysavings banks the
Federal Reserve Board, b~ regulation, may prescribe the nature and character of investments to be made.
Every national bank operating a separate savings department under authority of this Act snall segregate c:t.nd set apart all assets belonging to such department and, und&r regulations of the
Federal R&serve Board. shall keep a separate set of books~
and records, sho\Ving in proper de~il. all transactions" engaged
in·
No such natio~l bank shall receive in its savings department any deposits other t~n time deposits or savings deposits, as defined by Section l9~of the Federal Reserve Act.
In ease of liquid~tion of a national bank operating a
separate savings department either by a receiver duly appointed or by a liquidating agent, the depositors in.the savings
department shall hc:t.vc a first lien on ~ssets held in such
department. The Foder<:~.l Reserve B.o<1rd, bf regulation, may
permit any national bank to esW.blish and ~intain a separate
savings department to be ope~ted in accordance with the provisions of this act so fc:t.r as applicable·