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X-4598.

FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD
WASHINGTON
ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE TO
T H E FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD

M a y

3 ,

1 9 2 6 .

S u b j e c t : Expenses i n Express Hate Case.
Dear S i r :
The a t t a c h e d c o p i e s of l e t t e r s exchanged by t h e Board
w i t h t h e Counsel f o r t h e F e d e r a l Reserve Bank of New York exp l a i n t h e f i n a l d i s p o s i t i o n of t h e complaint f i l e d w i t h t h e
I n t e r s t a t e Commerce Commission on b e h a l f of t h e F e d e r a l Reserve
Bank of Mew York, e t a l . a g a i n s t American Railway Express Company
e t a l . , f o r t h e p u r p o s e of o b t a i n i n g a r e v i s i o n of e x p r e s s r a t e s
on shipments of c o i n , c u r r e n c y , s e c u r i t i e s , e t c .
I f any f u r t h e r
i n f o r m a t i o n i s d e s i r e d , i t i s s u g g e s t e d t h a t your bank communic a t e w i t h t h e F e d e r a l R e s e r v e Bank of New York,
A l l F e d e r a l Reserve Banks upon r e c e i p t of t h e B o a r d ' s
l e t t e r of August 16, 1923 (X-3812) s i g n i f i e d t h e i r w i l l i n g n e s s
t o b e a r a p r o - r a t a s h a r e of t h e expense i n c u r r e d i n c o n n e c t i o n
w i t h t h i s c o m p l a i n t . The F e d e r a l Reserve Bank of New York h a s
s u b m i t t e d a s t a t e m e n t of expenses t o t a l i n g $10,168*34, copy e n c l o s e d , and on t h e b a s i s of p a i d - i n c a p i t a l and s u r p l u s a s a t
c l o s e of b u s i n e s s A p r i l 3 8 t h , t h e p r o - r a t a s h a r e s of t h e s e v e r a l
F e d e r a l R e s e r v e Banks a r e a s f o l l o w s :
Bos ton
New York
Philadelphia
Cleveland
Ricbmond
Atlanta
Chicago
S t . Louis
Minneapolis
Kansas C i t y
Dallas
San F r a n c i s c o
Total

$765. 86
2 , 8 2 5 . 31
962. 59
1 , 0 7 9 . 85
533. 45
405. 17
1 , 3 9 6 . 38
439. 89
316. 00
393. 00
353. 89
696. 95
$10,168. 34

You a r e r e q u e s t e d t o r e m i t your p r o p o r t i o n a t e s h a r e of
t h e above expense d i r e c t to t h e New York bank.


http://fraser.stlouisfed.org/10 GOVERNORS
Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis

Very t r u l y y o u r s ,
D. R. C r i s s i n g e r .
Governor.

OF ALL F . R. BANKS.

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STATEMENT OP EXPBHSES

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FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD vs AMERICAN RAILWAY EXPRESS
PAID BY FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF NEW YORK

November 2 3 , 1923

James W. Carmalt

S p e c i a l Counsel

F e b r u a r y 2 , 1924

L* R. Sounds

Travel Expense

March 8, 1924

Brooks T r a f f i c
S e r v i c e Company

Preparing exhibi t s
and t e s t i f y i n g

March 11, 1924

- F.R. Bank of

$3,000.00
13*40
900.00

Cost of s t e n o g r a p h i c
work i n p r e p a r i n g
documents

99.66

March 26, 1924

Brooks T r a f f i c
S e r v i c e Company

Preparing exhibits
and t e s t i f y i n g •
1,155.28

March 23, 1926

James W. Carmalt

S p e c i a l Counsel

3,000.00

A p r i l 29, 1925

James W. Carmalt

S p e c i a l Counsel

2.000.00
$10.168.34

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A p r i l 27, 1926.

Dear S i r :
I acknowledge r e c e i p t of and have brought t o t h e
a t t e n t i o n of the F e d e r a l Reserve Board your l e t t e r of A p r i l
2 6 t h a d v i s i n g t h a t the I n t e r s t a t e Commerce Commission has
i s s u e d an o r d e r denying t h e p e t i t i o n f i l e d on b e h a l f of the
F e d e r a l r e s e r v e banks f o r a r e h e a r i n g on the e x p r e s s r a t e c a s e .
I t i s noted from your l e t t e r t h a t Mr. C a r n a l t concurs i n t h e
view t h a t t h e r e i s n o t h i n g to bo gained by p r e s e n t i n g the case
t o t h e c o u r t s , a s t h e r e i s but a remote chance t h a t the c o u r t s
would review and cnangc t h e f i n d i n g of t h e Commission t h a t the
r a t e s c h a r g e d by t h e e x p r e s s companies a r e i n f a c t f a i r and
reasonable.
I n view of t h e s e f a c t s , the Board approves of the
p r o p o s a l t h a t Mr, Carmalt be p a i d the $2,000 b al an ce' due him
on the minimum f e e f i x e d under t h e agreement of October 50, 1923.
I f , a f t e r making t h i s payment, you w i l l submit t o the Board a
s t a t e m e n t of t h e e n t i r e expenses of the ITew York Bank i n connect i o n w i t h t h i s c a s e , the Board w i l l bo glad t o a r r a n g e f o r
p r o r a t i n g among a l l the F e d e r a l r e s e r v e b a n k s .
Very t r u l y y o u r s ,
(Signed)

E. B. C r i s s i n g e r

D. B. C r i s s i n g e r ,
Governor.
Mr. L. R. Mason, General Counsel,
F e d e r a l Reserve Bank of ITew York,
Hew York, H. Y.




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Or HEW YQEK
I . C. C. Docket Fo. 15449
F e d e r a l Reserve Bank of Few York
v#
American Railway Express Company e t al#

A p r i l 2 5 , 1926.

F e d e r a l Reserve Board,
Washington, B. C.
S i r s :
R e f e r e n c e i s made to l e t t e r a d d r e s s e d to me under d a t e of
F e b r u a r y 19 "by Vice Governor F l a t t i n r e g a r d to the above case*
On A p r i l 14 the I n t e r s t a t e Commence Coimiission p u b l i s h e d i t s o r d e r
of A p r i l 5, denying the p e t i t i o n f i l e d on b e h a l f of the r e s e r v e banks to r e open t h e c a s e .
i s concerned#

This f i n a l l y d i s p o s e s of the ma t t e r , so f a r as t h e Commission
Mr. Carina! t concurs in the view t h a t t h e r e i s n o t h i n g to be

g a i n e d by o r e s en t i n g the case to the c o u r t s .

I t i s thought we might be suc-

c e s s f u l i n g e t t i n g the c o u r t s to i n t e r p r e t the Cummins amendment i n a c cordance with our view of i t , but that p r a c t i c a l l y n o t h i n g would be g a i n e d
by so d o i n g , s i n c e the Commission has found i n the p r o c e e d i n g s t h a t the r a t e s
charged by t h e e x p r e s s companies a r e i n f a c t f a i r and r e a s o n a b l e .

The p o s -

s i b i l i t y of g e t t i n g the c o u r t s to review and change the f i n d i n g of f a c t by
the Commission i s too r e m o t e , in our judgment, to j u s t i f y r e s o r t i n g t o the
courts.
Mr. Carmali, has s u b m i t t e d h i s b i l l f o r $ 3 , 0 0 0 i n f i n a l payment of
h i s p r o f e s s i o n a l s e r v i c e s b e f o r e t h e Commission#

This i s t h e b a l a n c e of fee

minimum amount p a y a b l e to him under the f e e agreement of October 30, 1923.
I t i s proposed to make -oaynent t o him a c c o r d i n g l y and c l o s e the case*
Respectfully,
( s i g n e d ) L. R. Mason
L.R. Mason, General Couilsel#




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February 19,
1926.

Mr. L. Randolph Mason, Counsel,
f e d e r a l He s e r v e Bank o f New York,
New York C i t y , New York.
Dear S i r i
The F e d e r a l Reserve Board has r e c e i v e d your l e t t e r of Febr u a r y 9th w i t h r e f e r e n c e t o the complaint f i l e d wi tin. the I n t e r s t a t e Commerce Commission on b e h a l f of the F e d e r a l Reserve Bank of
New York, e t a l . a g a i n s t American Railway Express Company e t a l f ,
f o r the p u r p o s e of o b t a i n i n g a r e v i s i o n of e x p r e s s r a t e s on s h i p ments of c o i n , c u r r e n c y , s e c u r i t i e s , e t c .
The Board n o t e s t h a t D i v i s i o n One of t h e I n t e r s t a t e Commerce
Commission has r e n d e r e d a d e c i s i o n a d v e r s e to t h e f e d e r a l r e s e r v e
banks and t h a t you propose t o f i l e a p e t i t i o n f o r a r e h e a r i n g b e f o r e t h e e n t i r e Commission. Inasmuch a s t h e r e i s e v e r y t h i n g to be
g a i n e d and n o t h i n g to be l o s t by f i l i n g such a p e t i t i o n , t h e Board
s e e s no r e a s o n why i t should not be f i l e d .
The Board a l s o n o t e s t h a t you propose t o pay Mr. Carmalt
$3,000 on account of h i s f o e f o r s e r v i c e s b e f o r e the I n t e r s t a t e Commerce Commission. Inasmuch a s the F e d e r a l Reserve Board has h e r e t o f o r e approved your c o n t r a c t with Mr. Carmalt f o r a minimum f e e of
$8,000 f o r h a n d l i n g t h i s m a t t e r b e f o r e the I n t e r s t a t e Commerce Comm i s s i o n and u n d e r s t a n d s t h a t you have only p a i d $3,000 of t h i s f e e
to d a t e , t h e Board s e e s no o b j e c t i o n to your p a y i n g him an a d d i t i o n a l $3,000 a t t h i s t i m e , l e a v i n g $2,000 of t h e minimum f e e to bo
p a i d when h i s s e r v i c e s b e f o r e the I n t e r s t a t e Commerce Commission
are f i n a l l y terminated.
The Board u n d e r s t a n d s t h a t the F e d e r a l Reserve Bank
of New York w i l l p a y a l l the expenses i n c u r r e d i n t h i s m a t t e r out
of i t s own f u n d s and w i l l c a r r y t h e amount i n a suspense a c c o u n t
u n t i l t h i s m a t t e r i s e n t i r e l y d i s p o s e d o f , a t which time the e n t i r e
expenses of h a n d l i n g the m a t t e r w i l l be p r o r a t e d among a l l the Fede r a l r e s e r v e banks and the o t h e r F e d e r a l r e s e r v e banks w i l l be
c a l l e d upon to reimburse the F e d e r a l Reserve Bank of New York f o r
t h e i r pro r a t a s h a r e s .
Very t r u l y y o u r s ,

WW SAD




(Signed) Idmund P i a t t
Vice Governor*

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FEDERAL RESERVE BAM OF HEW YOEK
February 9, 1925*

I.C.C.Docket No.15449
F e d e r a l Reserve Bank of Hew York
v.
American Railway Express Co. e t a l ,

F e d e r a l R e s e r v e Board,
Washington,

D.O.

S i r s :
On or about September 5, 1923, complaint was f i l e d w i t h the I n t e r s t a t e Commerce Commission on b e h a l f of the F e d e r a l Reserve Bank of HewYork
e t a l . v . American Railway Exprass Company e t a l . , a l l e g i n g t h a t t h e r a t e s
of the e x p r e s s companies on p r o p e r t y , i n c l u d i n g money, c o i n , c u r r e n c y , bank
n o t e s , s e c u r i t i e s , e t c . , and charges made t h e r e u n d e r , being based upon
the v a l u e of t h e shipments d e c l a r e d by the s h i p p e r and being e s t a b l i s h e d
w i t h o u t the a u t h o r i t y of t h e I n t e r s t a t e Commerce Commission, were i n v i o l a t i o n of S e c t i o n 20 of the I n t e r s t a t e Commerce Act known a s the Cummins
Amendment; t h a t t h e r a t e s were e x c e s s i v e and u n r e a s o n a b l e w i t h r e f e r e n c e t o
the element of i n s u r a n c e ; t h a t the r a t e s wore d i s c r i m i n a t o r y and were p r e f e r e n t i a l to s h i p p e r s of o t h e r commodities.
A h e a r i n g was h e l d upon the i s s u e s r a i s e d by the complaint b e f o r e
an examiner of t h e commission i n Hew York City i n February and March of
1924. • At t h i s h e a r i n g the banks were r e p r e s e n t e d by Mr. Carmalt and myself *
We o f f e r e d t e s t i m o n y showing the h i s t o r y of t h e r a t e s i n q u e s t i o n and a l s o
adduced such f a c t s a s were known t o t h e o f f i c e r s of t h e bank which-tended
t o show t h a t the r a t e s were e x c e s s i v e .




The e x p r e s s companies adduced t e s t i -

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mony designed to shew t h a t t h e r a t e s were f a i r and reasonable#

Under the

r u l e s of t h e commission t h e burden of proof was upon t h e e x p r e s s companies.
The examiner h e l d t h a t t h e r a t e s were not i n f a c t u n r e a s o n a b l e , d i s c r i m i n a t o r y or p r e j u d i c i a l to t h e complainants, and i n e f f e c t t h a t the p u b l i c a t i o n
of r a t e s on the b a s i s of v a l u e d e c l a r e d by the s h i p p e r was not i n v i o l a t i o n
of t h e Cumnins amendment, a s a l l e g e d .

The f i n d i n g of f a c t t h a t the r a t e s

a r e not e x c e s s i v e or d i s c r i m i n a t o r y was r e a c h e d by the examiner n o t w i t h s t a n d i n g t h a t h e found t h a t t h e s t a t e m e n t of expenses i n c u r r e d by t h e Ameri c a n Railway Express Company i n i t s money department a t t h e Broadway o f f i c e
and a t t h e r a i l r o a d t e r m i n a l s i n New York and t h e s t a t e m e n t of revenue

and

expenses on shipments consigned to or r e c e i v e d from t h e F e d e r a l Reserve
Bank of Hew York, o f f e r e d i n evidence by t h e express company, were l a c k i n g
i n u n i f o r m i t y and thoroughness and were too narrow i n scope to be of izalue,
E x c e p t i o n s were duly f i l e d on b e h a l f of t h e bank to t h e f i n d i n g s
of t h e examiner and i n J u l y of 1925 b e f o r e D i v i s i o n One of the I n t e r s t a t e
Commerce Commission t h e s e e x c e p t i o n s were o r a l l y argued by Mr, C a r n a l t
and myself on b e h a l f of t h e banks, b r i e f s on b e h a l f of both s i d e s h a v i n g
beeaa f i l e d #

v

The commission s u s t a i n e d t h e r u l i n g of the examiner, both on

t h e f a c t s and t h e law.

The c o n s t r u c t i o n now p l a c e d by t h e commission upon

t h e Cumnins amendment i s d i r e c t l y c o n t r a r y to r u l i n g s of t h e commission on
t h i s q u e s t i o n of law, which had been r e n d e r e d p r i o r t o t h e time the.comp l a i n t was f i l e d i n t h i s c a s e .

The q u e s t i o n s of f a c t and law i n v o l v e d

were f u l l y a r g u e d b e f o r e t h e commission o r a l l y and on b r i e f s ,
i t i s our p u r p o s e to f i l e a p e t i t i o n f o r a r e h e a r i n g b e f o r e the
whole commission. The f i n d i n g of t h e commission t h a t i n f a c t t h e r a t e s a r e



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j u s t i f i e d makes i t doubtful that proceedings in the courts would "be of any
a v a i l . However, we are desirous of getting the f i n a l ruling on our petition
refor/hearing "before ticking a definite rc connendation in this respect. A
copy of the ruling of Division One of the comission i s enclosed herewith.
Mr. Carnalt has sent a t i l l , dated February 8, in the sun of
$3,000.

He has already heon paid $3,000 on account of the fee agreement of

October 30, 1923, approved "by the Board.

The nininun due hin for services

"before the coianission, in case the issues were decided against the bank, i s
$8,000.

It i s nov," proposed to pay hin $3,000, as requested in

February 8.
,

Respectfully,
L. R. Mason,
General Counsel.

End.




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