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443 Memorandum by M r . Warburg Submitted to the Board at its meeting on December 3 £ Washington, To December 3, 1915. the FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD Washington. Sirs: I take the liberty of submitting the following statement and mamoranda with the object in view of doing my share in establishing a basis of harmonious understanding and cooperation in the Board, without which the best results cannot be achieved. Like all of us, 1 regret very sincerely that the impression has been created by the press and otherwise as if there were personal differences in the Board. Personally, T cherish the conviction that differences are not of a personal nature but that we are dealing with honest differences of opinion and that the best way of removing whatever may separate members of the Board is to go to the root of these differences and to make a determined effort to agree on the essential points on which there is divergence of opinion, or, if we cannot agree, to frankly disagree upon the same and state the matter, if necessary, in the form <5f majority and minority reports so that it may be u n derstood that, inhere differences exist, they are not of a per sonal nature but are based upon matters of principle. My own hope is that we may be able to agree cn all of these things b e cause, after all, that is what will best further the objects ar.d aims of the Federal Reserve Board to which we all are devoting whatever is best, in us. If I may be permitted to analyze the situation, I would * y x say that there are differences of opinion in the following iour c’atters: (1) The problem of the general functions and the policy to be pursued by Federal Reserve Banks. X take the liberty of submitting herewith a memorandum which I have prepared covering this problem. I have no doubt that we can reach a common ground of understanding on this question. (2) The question of Government Deposits, From the very beginning of the operation of the Federal Reserve Banks there have been two different schools of thought in this respect. which, I take the liberty of submitting a memorandum if adopted, would, I believe, relieve the situation. It would, at the same time, protect both the Secretary of the Treasury and the powers of supervision and control of the Fedp~al Reserve Board. (3) The examination and reports of member banks and rulings of the Comptroller. This question, more than anything else, has produced irri tation from time to time with member banks, Banks and in the Board. Federal Reserve I believe that we are very close to a point now where the problem could be disposed of to mutual satisfaction. Both in the case of Government deposits and the case of the Comptroller’s reports the law creates a difficult situation by preserving a dual control. The problem is, can the difficulties that no doubt exist be removed by administra tive methods, or shall it be necessary to cure the situation (3 ) amendments of the law so that, with respect to reports and e x * aminations, there will be created a unity of action? stated, As above I strongly believe that it will be possible now to definitely agree upon some satisfactory plan or to state public ly the limited and legitimate degree to which $e do not agree. This will cure the constant attempt of the press to magnify and to sensationalize the situation. (4) The question of redistricting, and, involved in that, the question of individual powers of m e m bers of the Board. I believe that, in the very near future, the committee can bring in a report concerning redistricting which probably will dispose of any plan of dealing with this larger question but will clearly establish the position of members of the Board as to the desirability of a redistricting process at such time as it should be practicable in case Congress should give the Board the power to do so. It will be of great advantage for the harmonious work of the Board if3 at the same time, a clear understanding could be reached as to xrhat are the individual powers of members of the Board and how far are resolutions passed by the Board binding upon all of them. I stropgly believe that if we patiently dis cuss these quest lone upon their merits and entirely disregard the personal element we shall finally reach a very satisfactory and clear understanding about all of these points. I am somewhat taking the attitude of a surgeon who rather goes to the root of an evil than deal with the surface disturb ance by means of palliatives and court plaster. The process mev (4) be a little liit more bothersome while it lasts but X am sincerely convinced that it will bring more lasting and more satisfactory results. It is, to my mind, inevitable that this operation should be gone through because I can hardly see how we can write a satisfactory report or deal with the question of amendments unless and until we have reached a clear understanding about these pending problems. Respectfully, (Signed) .... Paul M, Warburg. Memorandum on Question No I The policy to be pursued by Federal Reserve Banks must be guided exclusively by the public interest Federal Reserve Banks must neither fail to carry out trans actions and exercise functions - which otherwise would redound to the benefit of the country - for tne mere reason that they entail heavy expense or loss, nor must they, on the other hand, conclude transactions and exercise functions on account of the earnings to be derived, m case these transactions or functions would run counter to the public interest, or would lessen the ultimate abil ity of the Federal Reserve Banks to render the largest service for the general benefit of the country. In carrying out their policy they must neither compete for the sake of competition nor not compete for the sake of avoiding competition In carrying out functions with which they are charged by the law they must compete or not compete as the public interest requires If we agree on this premise, we must then ask ourselves, in whe-t way do Federal Peeerve Banks serve the public interest? The function of Federal Reserve Banks is to provide a safe system of banking (free from our heretofore periodical collapses) and more stable and equal interest rates than we have nad m tne past Broadly speaking, the problem of banking may be summed up m the following quotation "If banks were to keep, m cash, all the money deposited with them, business would come to a standstill and a cri sis would ensue If banks were to lend indiscriminately to those who apply for loans all the money on deposit with them, a geneial panic and collapse would follow s short period of overstimulation Between these two ex- (3A) tremes lies the middle course, the finding of which is the problem, and its practise the art of banking." To find and preserve this middle course is the particular function of the Federal Reserve Bank System. The present maximum lending power of the entire Federal Re serve System is about $600,000,C O O . The total loans and invest ments by national banks amount at present to about f8,000,000,000; those of the State banks to $?,500,000,000. It is abvious that it cannot possibly be the object of the Federal Reserve System, by competition, to substitute a lending power of ..$600,000,00C for that of all the banks of the country, amounting to f15,500,000,000. The aim of the system must rather be to keep this gigantic structure of loans and investments, which is largely carried by bank deposits, from over expanding so that, as the natural and inevitable result, conversely, it may not be forced to over contract, and, to avoid over contraction with all its hardships and the inevitably resulting over expansion. Effectively to deal with the fluctuations of so gigahtic a structure is a vast undertaking for which the resources of the Federal Reserve System are none too large at this time. task is to be accomplished successfully, If the it cannot be done by op erations which are continuous and of equal force at all rimes, bur only by carrying out a very definite policy of not only employing funds vigorously -at certain times but, with equal vigor, not to employ funds at others. That during periodsocf actual employment the Federal Reserve Banks will make large earnings and that durin? periods where a restricted activity of Federal Reserve Banks is rendered necessary by general conditions, their -earnings should oe smaller, are incidents'which have no bearing upon ..the measure ex their usefulness; Federal Reserve Banks, when accumulating funds, are exercising as useful a function as when they ate employing the . same. . . * If safety and stabilization of rates form the soundest foundation for general prosperity, everything that the Federal Re serve Banks dp in avoiding excessive rats3, both tec high and too low, redounds to the benefit of the nation, and the niefe fact of the general confidence in this stability and the knowledge that fuA&s are in reserve and available brings about the freest use of credit facilities at liberal rates’ all over the country. If the potential or actual employment of §600,000,000 can have this ef fect upcn loans and' investments of ?15,500,000,000 (of.which {13,50C,GOO,CCC are loans and discounts) the usefulness of the * Federal Reserve Sysrom has been proven. That does not mean that 7Tl*en cnce vs shall' have passed through a period 6f active money we shall ever have to contemplate conditions where the entire funds ci the Federal Reserve Banks will lie idle. A certain pro portion will always reinain in active service^ and there will be no doubt abfcut taelr ability to earn their running expenses or •chat, wh::n bftce they cc.cupy their proper field, of operations - and averaging their operations over a reasonable period - they will earn their dividends, but time must be given them for this. If Federal Reserve Banks should find permanent difficulty in earning their dividends, remedy must not be sought by improper ly using, their funds but rather by carefully investigating whe ther cr net organic defects exist which might be overcome. We must net forge-t, on she one hand, that the capitalization of the (4)A bank and the prescribed rates cf dividends are arbitrarily fixed and that experience only can demonstrate whether or not these are properly chosen Personally, I ar inclined to think that they are about right, provided, however, that the Federal Reserve Banks are given the same powers as enjbyed by the European cen t a l banks with respect to the note issue the weakness of the system, as at present devised, is that, unlike the European cen tral banks, they cannot derive their chief profit from the note circulation In Europe, the Banque de France, the Eank of Eng land, the Reichsbank and the other central banks have substanti ally a monopoly on the note issue, and balances with these cen tral banks and their notes are considered as cash by the banks of the country (The Bank of the Netherlands has a capital of 20.000. 000 florins and a note circulation of 300,000,000 to 400.000. 000 florins ) Our difficulty is a threefold one first, we nave a note issuing power superimposed upon an inelastic currency issued to the limit of What the country can absorb, sfecond, 6ur notes are not counted as reserves, the consequence of which is that, at times, like the present, when additional currency for actual cir culation is not required, we do not pay for our investments by ^he issue of Federal Reserve notes but by a loss of gold, and, t*iird, that our inability to issue notes against gold, or gold and comi ercial.paper, prevents us from broadening and strengthen m g our banking power At present we are tied down to the maxi mum of the deposits of the member banks Gold deposited for re demption purposes with Federal Reserve Agents is a most desirable IZ5 (5)A aid powerful protection m case of gold withdrawals It does not i add, however, any additional hanking power r.ui add It replaces "but does The vicious effect of these conditions 1 3 that we can not deal boldly with the problem of Government bonds and the cir culation secured by them If v/e could increase our own free stock of gold, that question could be solved and, with that, the prob lem of our earnings I make free to submit a memorandum suggesting how it can be done, and apologize for the rough form of all statements, which have been dictated hurriedly without regard to f o m P. M. 13-3-1 b It is proposed to amend Section 16, clause (2 ) to read as follows : "Any Federal Reserve Bank may make application to the local Federal Reserve Agent for such amount of the Federal Reserve notes hereinbefore provided as it may require. Such application should be accompanied by a tender to the local Federal Reserve Agent of collateral in amount equal tc the sum of the Federal Reserve notes thus applied for and issued pursuant to such application. The collateral security thus^ offered shall be_ gold or gold certif icatss and notes and bills accepted f or rediscount under the provisions of Section^. 1JL or purchased under the provisions of Section 14 of this Act_._^Whenever the gold deposited as collateral with the Federal f s h a l l be less than 40^ of the aggregate amount of the aggregate collateral deposited! the Fed_e_ral Reserve Board shall estab lish a graduated tax." etc. r etc.. The force of this amendment would be that Federal Reserve nbtes could be exchanged for gold and that the gold so accumulated would become the free asset of the Federal Reser\e Banks. A3 the lav/ stands today the gold that accumulates against i3suo ^of Federal Re serve notes accumulates in the redemption fund deposited with the Federal Reserve Agent amd Cua3es to be the property of the Federal Reserve Banks. It can not serve as a basis for additional loan3 , but it renders only a service - though a most important one- in being available in case of gold withdrawals. The consequence is that at present the Federal Reserve Banks are limited in their growth to the amount of obligatory balances i d member banks with Federal Re serve Banks, While the optional balance may be deposited, it is not t?!?.fv? to count on that 2-b If the lav/ should be amended as here suggested, every note holder in the country would bocome an additional depositor of the Federal Reserve Banks and he woyld become a permanent depositor, because it is safe to say that the amount of gold certificates carried in the pockets of the people at this time would be per manently carried in Federal Reserve notes* It is safe to expect that the Federal Reserve Banks would be strengthened by several hundred million dollars of gold in this manner. If three hundred millions v/ere added this would mean an additional loaning power of 450 million dollars. The far-reaching effeev of this process would be that the Federal Reserve Banks thus strengthened could afford to deal on a broad basis with the question of government bonds and Federal Reserve notes. At present Federal Reserve Banks are disinclined- and correctly so- to adopt a policy of purchasing hundreds of mil lions of government bonds and issue against them Federal Reserve bank-noies as long as.the gold supply which they command is not larger thari it is now. maintain a reserve of While it is true that they need only to 5% against these Federal Reserve bank-notes, it is equally true that these notes may be presented at any time for payment in gold and that, from a point of view of the Federal Reserve Banks, a 5% gold reserve would be insufficient. If notes could be exchanged freely for gold the additional loaning power # which would accrue to the Federal Reserve Banks by the accumula tion of additional gold, could be used to provide the necessary gold reserve against a large amount of Federal Reserve Bank-notes* A very interesting suggestion has been made to the Board ( by Mr. Perrin? to the effect that any National Bank the charter : of v?hich would expire, should receive a renewal charter only upon the condition that its power to issue notes against gcvernr.ent bonds should cease; but that the Federal Reserve Banks should pur chase the government bonds of these banks at par at the expiration of the banks charter. In this manner all the government bonds of w o p U fall into the hands c f ‘the Federal Reserve Banks within twenty years. A portion of these bonds would doubtless be disposed of in the market a3 government 3% bends and the Federal Reserve Beard and the Federal Reserve Banks would have tc decide what por tion they wished tc carry as one-year notes and v/hat portion as 2% government bends against which notes could be issued. If this plan were carried cut the unelastic government secured currency would be made elastic by the Federal Reserve Banks because it would be in their power to issue these notes at times when there would be legitimate requirement for increased circula tion and to withdrawn them from circulation at other times. Further more, the question ofe arningu of Federal Reserve Banks would be solved, because the larger the note issue of the banks, the larger would become their revenue. This revenue would be derived from the government bonds and the mere government bonds would be dis*> posbd of to the public, the more important would become the com mercial business of the Federal Reserve Banks, because if we take it that a certain amount cf currency is required and a large por tion of this currency can only be issued against the collateral of commercial paper, this commercial paper must go in the Federal Reserve Banks. Of course, if Federal Reserve notes should be made available ftr reserve Zuosay cf member banks ( not of Federal Reserve Banks, ns sc many people appear to chink when the question ws.8 4-b discussed in past years ! ) , this process would talcs place with sc much mere effect. There is no doubt but that Federal Reserve Banks will not find their ultimate and proper place until Federal Reserve notes receive reserve qualities. At present we have the anomalous condition that the gold that comes into this country, which should accumulate in Federal Reserve Banks, accumulates in member banks, while the gold holdings of the Federal Reserve Banks hardly have grov/n except where the amount of the additional r eserVe payments had to be made under the lav/. Ve furthermore have the anomalous condition that at this time when there is no demand for additional % circulation, any investment the Federal Reserve Bankd'make is being paid^ not by Federal Reserve notes, but by a loss of gold. While it is most gratifying to see that the bankers who so violently opposed as unsound ahy thought of counting Federal Reserve notes as reserve, are now of their own accord coming around to the opposite view; it still may be that Congress would not yet Ve prepared for such a step* Ii might in ihat case be more advisable to proceed slowly and to ask at this time only for the amendment as above outlined. My own suggestion would be to increase the gold covered from 40$ to 60$ and begin to tax at 60$, though beginning only with a very low tax and increasing only very gradually,increasing more rapidly when the geld cover falls below would be 40$. The effect, however, that Congress and the country-would see that it is ex pected normally to have a gold cover in excess of in excess of 40$ and while we 60$ rather than woulde xpect to issue more Federal Reserve notes in thi3 case, we would; on the other hand, expect to issue them normally cn a higher basis of gold protection. This ^•<rv v *L;0 -5b- effort may ultimately be helpful in persuading Congress to permit these notes to be counted as reserves. As it is nov; there is no room for an elastic note issue for our elasticity has been tied to a frayed rubber band which is already stretched to the limit j ^ h e Federal Reserve Banks have no power of contracting under the pres ent structure. As above stated, nothing will help Federal Reserve Banks more in finding their proper position and in securing suf ficient earnings without feeing forced to use their reserve money, in a v/ay which at times v/ould be unsafe and improper, than an,effec tive. and sound note issuing power. t-lf.W. 11-2-15 , 448. 1 - c. liEKORANGUM ON QUESTION NO. 2. ■■ It is suggested “that tho Treasury develop gradually its: accounts with the several Federal Resorve Banks* Aftor a reasonable period of actual operation the nature and the volume of Treasury business at each point can thon bo ascertained as can a? oo the expense of the Federal Roseirvo Banks* involved in the operation of accounts. It may thon bo.possible for the Secretary of the Treasury to determine the amounts which ho proposes to carry as fixed free balances with tho several banks in order to sustain these accounts. As a matter of convenience he may arrange to have a weekly or bi-weekly settlement with the Federal Reserve Banks, by which any amounts in excess of tho agreed balance be paid into the gold clearing fund for the credit cf the Treasury and con versely, deficiencies- below the agreed balance would be made good through the gold clearing fund.. There would then -.remain the free funds in the Treasury, which will vary from time to time according to the receipts and-disbursements of the Unitod States Government. Broadly speaking, tho wr&tor doubts the wisdom of per mitting those additional funds to be deposited with the Federal Reserve Banks without the control and., supervision of' the Federal Reserve Board. While the own resources of 'Federal Reserve Banks and the bulk of their deposits may be considered as "fixtures", upon which it might bo safe to base a definite policy in granting loans or issuing currency, the funds of the Government; ac cording to tho wishos of Congress, may be of gigantic size and may be reduced to zero. Thesc Government deposits must therefore be: treated from 'a different point of view from that of the deposits of member banks* At tiroes, when the Government is apt to withdraw these funds, the Foddral Reserve Banks should not employ them at all and keep the funds practically intact (that is the same as carrying a 100% reserve against thorn), at times, particularly when the general banks are crowdflci .*wid*tnc Treasury balances ^rc large, or when for other roasons it may appoah advisable, it may be proper policy for Federal Reserve Banks to use freely the Government deposit and maintain a against theso deposits of only 35% as agdinst deposits • reserve their other With tho staggering si2c of oiir deposit structure -(of 18 billion}} and the limited powejr of expansion of Federal Reserve Banks (at present 600 milliohs figured on a 40% basis And on the last statement of the Federal Reserve Banks) it will bo Y*isc to keep an ahehor to windward Expedience has shown' that, tho end has always been reached or is quickly reached whon a catastrophe occurs, and that it is of the very greatest value to have some largo gold funds in actual reserve. For there is never enough gold in such circumstances and tho value of tho froc treasure in the Julius Tower has been fully vindi cated. It would greatly add to the strength of our system if wo could kcop tho free treasury funds as a secondary re serve to bo drawn upon after the rediscounting power, between "■y*5Ti. ■ ' ■ 8 5 i ■ ■. v«w ' rTgwuva~Mv^i*<-'-'• ■' 448. 3- c 793 districts has boon bro.ught into full play to the highest degree compatible with safety and conservatism and at tho same time with the best interest of the country. ■ But there must be a certain latitude in applying this rule and this%elasticity would be assur.-d if it worj left to the discretion of the Federal Reserve 3o«a.rd from time to time ' to fix the rosorvos to bo kept by the Federal Reserve Banks against Government deposits other than the fixed balances agreed upon. Tho Treasury could then, through tho gold clear ing fund, automatically deposit in the Federal Reserve System ■ its free funds, which would be allotted to the several banks upon a certain key (basi.d upon capitalization or capital and dcposits)ai:U be subject to special reserve requirements. I In this runner the Federal Reserve Board could undertako tho res ponsibility of supervising £he employment of these funds so that tho Secretary of xno Treasury may be certain of his abil ity of v/ithdrawing these funds when required without creating a disturbance* The power and duty of the Board oi directing / rediscount operations:.!? involved in this matteri These transactions may be nocessary in ordi-r to- withdraw, government funds from some districts and for the safety and efficiency of the system it is necessary that the Board exercise a control over these funds in the Federal Reserve Banks Legally there can not b3 any objection to a stipulation by the Secretary when making Government doposits to the offoct that tho doposits shall be subject to such reserves as the Board from time to time shall determine. The Board, v/hen j 448. 4 - C studying this question some iionths ago, was advised by counsel that ovin 'without such stipulation by the Secretary it could, by its power to tax th- note issuo, secure compliance with suggestions tlwb tho Board nj.gjrt so. fit to 1 ako to tho Federal Rosorvo Banks m this respect. Fron -very f o m t of view, however, it would appear uore desirable that the stipulation, as above suggested, bo made by the Secretary of the Treasury. Memorandum by Counsel is attacncd. 448 - X - d. - FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD WASHINGTON October 15,, 1915, SUBJECT: Interest Charges on Federal Reserve Notes. My dear Mr. Warburg: The question whether the Federal Reserve Board may impose different rates of interest on the Federal reserve notes issued by the various Fed eral reserve banks involves a construction of that portion of Section 16 of’the Federal Reserve Act which reads as follows: "The Board shall have the right, acting through the Federal reserve agent, to grant in whole or in part or to reject entirely the application of any Federal reserve bank for Federal reserve notes; but to the extent that such application may be granted the Federal Reserve Board shall, through its local Federal Re serve agent, supply Federal reserve notes to the bank so applying, and such bank shall be charged with the amount of such notes and shall pay such rate of interest on said amount as may be estab lished by the Federal Reserve Bbahd, and the amount of such Fed eral reserve notes so issued to any such bank shall, upon delivery, together with such notes of such Federal reserve bank as may be issued under section eighteen of this Act upon security of United States two perccentum Government bonds, become a first amd para mount lien on all the assets of such bank." It will be observed that this paragraph provides in effect that any individual Federal reserve bank which has been granted an applica tion for notes whether in whole or in part, "shall pay such rate of in terest on said amount as may be established by the Federal Reserve Board This provision clearly indicates that the Board may charge such rate of interest as it deems advisable on any particular or individual issue of notes, and there is no intention on the part of Congress,either express or implied, which demands that tho Board fix a universal flat rate of interest on all Federal reserve notes^ In other words, each separate issu^j of notes, whether to the same or a different Federal re .;rve bank, may be subject to a different rate of interest. 448 - 2 - d.- A contrary result would defeat the obvious intent of Congress to enable the Federal Reserve Board to control, as far as possible, the conditions governing the demand for credit And to enable the Board to adapt not only rediscount rates but also the volume of Federal reserve notes to the varying heeds of different sections of the country. There would not seem to be a more effective way of checking an undesirable in flation o£ credits than to enfeble the Board to impose different rates of interest on the various issues of Federal reserve notes. The paragraph quoted above clearly authorizes the Board to control not only the issue of-notes to a particular bank but also to fix or determine the pressure to be put upon any particular bank to retire such notes when issued. The fact that the authority to fix such rate of interest is in precisely the same sentence as that empowering the Board to regulate the amount of notes issued to any individual bank, indicates that Congress had in view a method of controling the circulation of Federal reserve notes in each individual district. The wording of this Section is broad enough not only to permit of different interest rates in the different districts but also clearly au thorizes the Board to charge e&ch Federal Reserve bank such rate of in terest as it desires on each separate issue of notes made to that bank. The Act says that the Board may grant the application of any Federal reserve bank for Federal reserve notes, either in whole or in part, but to the extent that such application is granted, "such bank shall be charged with the amount of such notes and shall pay such rate of interest on said amount as may be established by the Federal Reserve Board". In other 448 - 3 - d. ■ ^4 / words, Congress specifies, in discussing the application of any Federal reserve bank for notes, that the Board nay grant so much of that par ticular application as it sees fit and shall charge such bank with the amount of notes issued and may establish such rate of interest as it sees fit !,on said amount". It seems clear, therefore, that the Board may, at the time of granting a'c yapplication for Federal reserve notes, fix such rate of interest as it sees fit to be p^id on the notes issuefd in compliance with that particular application, and this rate is in no way dependent upon any previous rate charged to that Federal reserve bank or to any other Federal reserve bank. * It is not to be supposed, however, that, should the Board at the time of granting an application fail to fix any interest rate whatever, it is precluded from imposing any interest charge in the future, because the Act provides merely that the bank "shall pay such rate of interest x x x x x x as may be established by the Federal Reserve Board," and it may be established either at the time of issue oh at ahy time subsequent thereto that the Board desires. There may be considerable practical difficulty if the Board fixes different rates of interest on different issues of notes made to the same Federal reserve bank, because of the question of determining when notes of the different issues are redeemed, but such a difficulty can in no way limit or restrict the legal rights of the Board in this con nection. Anc it may be very easy to devise a method whereby, under mutual agreement, any notes retired by a Federal reserve bank will be assumed to be those on which the highest rate of interest is charged. Respectfully, (Sgd) G-. L. Harrison, Hon. Paul M. Warburg, Federal Reserve Board. *