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t 383 FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD WASHINGTON ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE T O T H E FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD X-7169 June 6, 1932. Dear S i r : This r e f e r s to my l e t t e r s of May 7 and August 14, 1931, with t h e i r r e s p e c t i v e i n c l o s u r e s , on the s u b j e c t of "cashing" Government checks and w a r r a n t s "by Federal reserve "banks. As you w i l l remember, I addressed a memorandum to the Federal Reserve Board under d a t e of A p r i l 17, 1931, d i s c u s s i n g t h i s s u b j e c t in d e t a i l and recommending t h a t i t be r e f e r r e d to the Governors' Conference; the Governors' Conference i n A p r i l , 1931, r e f e r r e d the s u b j e c t to the Standing Committee on C o l l e c t i o n s f o r study and r e p o r t to the F a l l Conference of Governors; the Standing Committee on C o l l e c t i o n s rendered a r e p o r t under d a t e of August 10, 1931; and the Governors' Conference in December, 1931, r e f e r r e d the s u b j e c t to the Conference of Counsel of Federal reserve banks f o r c o n s i d e r a t i o n and c o n s u l t a t i o n with the Standing Committee on C o l l e c t i o n s and o f f i c i a l s of the Treasury Department, with a view to o b t a i n i n g a c l a r i f i c a t i o n of the a p p l i c a b l e p r o v i s i o n s of Treasury Department C i r c u l a r Ho. 176. For your f u r t h e r information in t h i s connection, I i n c l o s e copies of the f o l l o w i n g : 1. L e t t e r of August 19, 1931, from Mr, Robert S. X-7169 t P a r k e r , Counsel to the Federal He serve Bank of A t l a n t a , d i s c u s s i n g my l e t t e r of August 14, 1931, above r e f e r r e d t o ; 2. L e t t e r of September 11, 1931, from Mr. A, 0 . Agnew, Counsel to t h e Federal Reserve Bank of San F r a n c i s c o , a l s o d i s c u s s i n g my l e t t e r of August 14, 1931; 3. L e t t e r of November 28, 1931, from Mr, James 6, McConkey, Counsel to the Federal Reserve Bank of S t . Louis, i n c l o s i n g a memorandum which he had p r e pared d i s c u s s i n g the r e p o r t rendered by the Standing Committee on C o l l e c t i o n s and my l e t t e r of August 14, 1931; 4. L e t t e r of December 14, 1931, which I addressed to Mr. McConkey i n response to h i s l e t t e r of November 28, 1931; 5. L e t t e r of January 6, 1932, from Mr. J . P . D r e i b e l b i s of the f i r m of Locke, Locke, Stroud and Randolph, Counsel to the Federal Reserve Bank of D a l l a s , i n c l o s i n g a f i l e of correspondence concerning Treasury checks which were i n volved in the f a i l u r e of a n a t i o n a l bank i n Texas; 6. L e t t e r of Juno 1, 1932, from Mr. J . S. Walden, J r . , Chairman of the Standing Committee on C o l l e c t i o n s , d i s cussing the p o s s i b i l i t y of holding a conference on t h i s s u b j e c t ; and 7. My r e p l y of June 2, 1932, 38# I 385 X-7169 The p r e s s u r e of more urgent m a t t e r s has rendered i t impossible f o r me t o give c o n s i d e r a t i o n h e r e t o f o r e to the question of a r r a n g i n g a conference on t h i s s u b j e c t , and I b e l i e v e i t w i l l be impossible f o r t h i s o f f i c e or the o f f i c i a l s of the Treasury Department to p a r t i c i p a t e i n such a conference u n t i l sometime a f t e r Congress a d j o u r n s ; b u t I t h i n k we ought to have i t a t the e a r l i e s t date convenient to a l l concerned. We cannot make any d e f i n i t e plans u n t i l we know when Congress w i l l a d j o u r n , but I s h a l l a p p r e c i a t e an expression of your views a s to the time most s u i t a b l e and convenient f o r such a conference. Cordially yours, Walter Wyatt, General Counsel. Enclosures* TO COUNSEL OF ALL FEDERAL OBSERVE BANKS. 3 8 6 COPY X-7169-a COLQUITT, PARKER, TROUT MM & AEKWRIGHT Attorneys a t Law S u i t e 1607 William-Oliver Bldg. A t l a n t a , Ga. August 19, 1931. PERSOML. Mr. Walter % a t t , General Counsel, Federal Reserve Board, Washington, D. C. Dear Walter: I have received your l e t t e r of August 14th, sent f o r my p e r s o n a l and c o n f i d e n t i a l information and e n c l o s i n g a copy of a l e t t e r which you have w r i t t e n t o the Chairman of t h e Standing Committee on C o l l e c t i o n s concerning t h e Committee's r e p o r t on the s u b j e c t of "cashing" Government checks arid warrants by F e d e r a l r e s e r v e "banks. I approve most h e a r t i l y the views s e t out i n your l e t t e r , I have always f e l t t h a t i f t h e matter were put up t o t h e Treasury Department i n a vigorous way by t h e Federal r e s e r v e banks a c t i n g i n c o n c e r t , t h e present c o n f l u s i o n would be e l i m i n a t e d . As the s i t u a t i o n now i s , no Federal r e s e r v e bank knows whether a Government item i s a c t u a l l y "cashed" or p a i d when p r e s e n t e d to t h e bank f o r t h a t purpose and charged t o the Treasury account, and, i n f a c t , i t seems t o me t h a t t h e Treasury has no f i x e d p o l i c y about t h e m a t t e r . Sometimes t h e p o s i t i o n i s taken t h a t a check i s p a i d when cashed by i t s f i s c a l agent and charged t o i t s account. Sometimes t h e opposite p o s i t i o n i s assumed. I b e l i e v e t h e matter i s of s u f f i c i e n t importance t o j u s t i f y a conference of counsel, p a r t i c u l a r l y s i n c e t h e r e a r e d o u b t l e s s o t h e r questions which could be p r o f i t a b l y cons i d e r e d a t such a conference. As r e g a r d s the payment or cashing of Government checks or w a r r a n t s , the p o s i t i o n of the Federal r e s e r v e banks i s rendered even more u n c e r t a i n by the doubt which e x i s t s a s t o whether or not such warrants a r e n e g o t i a b l e i n s t r u m e n t s . There a r e many other i n t e r e s t i n g angles which ought t o have t X-7169-a COLQUITT, PARKER, TROUTMA2T & AEKWRIGHT Continuation Sheet Mr. Walter Wyatt - #2. 8-19-31. c o n s i d e r a t i o n . My own view i s t h a t when a Federal r e s e r v e bank takes one of these warrants i n r e g u l a r course of b u s i n e s s , pays or cashes the same and charges the item to tfce Treasury account, the payment ought to be regarded as f i n a l u n l e s s , of course, t h e i n s t r u m e n t , upon r e c e i p t a t the Treasury, should be found to be forged or to have been paid upon a gorged endorsement or u n l e s s t h e r e e x i s t s some other reason why t h e warrant was not p r o p e r l y payable upon p r e s e n t a t i o n a t t h e o f f i c e of t h e F e d e r a l r e s e r v e bank; I t r u s t t h a t you w i l l have a p l e a s a n t v a c a t i o n and know t h a t you have earned very much more r e s t than you can o b t a i n i n two or t h r e e weeks. I have not been away t h i s summer and do not expect to get away. That f a c t does n o t , however, prevent me from preaching to others t h e n e c e s s i t y for vacations. With s i n c e r e personal r e g a r d s , I am Cordially y o u r s , (S) RSP/w. Robt. S. P a r k e r . 3 8 7 . r 388 COPY X-7169-b FEDERAL RESERVE MM. OF SAN FRANCISCO September 11, 1931. (CONFIDENTIAL) Walter Wyatt, E s q . , General Counsel, Federal Reserve Board, Washington, D. C. Dear Mr. Hfy-att: Reference i s made to your l e t t e r dated August 14, t r a n s m i t t i n g f o r my "personal and c o n f i d e n t i a l i n f o r m a t i o n " copy of your l e t t e r w r i t t e n t o t h e Chairman of the Standing Committee on C o l l e c t i o n s with regard to t h e Committee's r e p o r t on the s u b j e c t of "Cashing" Government checks and warrants by Federal Reserve Banks. I have only r e c e n t l y had the opportunity of examining t h e Committee's r e p o r t . This I have done i n conf e r e n c e w i t h t h e o f f i c e r s of t h i s bank. I agree w i t h t h e major p o r t i o n of what you have t o say i n your l e t t e r of August 13 (X-6944). C e r t a i n l y , the Treasury c i r c u l a r should contain a c l e a r statement with regard t o the r e s p o n s i b i l i t y of Federal Reserve Banks i n cases where payment i s stopped on checks f o r which immediate c r e d i t has been given. I b e l i e v e t h a t t h e Treasurer should not recognize any stop-payment order u n t i l f i r s t communicating with the Federal Reserve Bank a f f e c t e d to a s c e r t a i n whether or not c r e d i t has been passed and i f s o , whether reimbursement can be o b t a i n e d . I a l s o b e l i e v e t h a t a g r e a t deal of the d i f f i c u l t y h e r e t o f o r e encountered could be obviated by e l i m i n a t ing e n t i r e l y from paragraph 32 of t h e Treasury c i r c u l a r a l l r e f e r e n c e to what the Federal Reserve Banks w i l l do under given circumstances. I t seems to me t h a t such r e f e r e n c e merely confuses the s i t u a t i o n and leaves i n doubt t h e c a p a c i t y i n which such banks a r e a c t i n g . I a l s o b e l i e v e t h a t t h e Treasury Department should i n c o r p o r a t e i n i t s c i r c u l a r a c l e a r statement to the e f f e c t t h a t Fede r a l Reserve Banks, i n handling Government checks and w a r r a n t s , a r e a c t i n g s o l e l y as agents of the banks from which such checks a r e r e c e i v e d , and I cannot see why t h e Treasurer should have any o b j e c t i o n to making such a s t a t e ment. / 3 8 9 X-7169-b Walter %ratt, Esq. -2- September 11, 1931. Mr. Clerk, the Deputy Governor of t h i s bank, who i s probably as conversant with operating procedure as any man i n the system and whose ideas on s u b j e c t s of t h i s chara c t e r a r e extremely c l e a r c u t , i s of the opinion t h a t a l l r e f e r e n c e to payment of Government checks through c l e a r i n g houses should be e l i m i n a t e d , i n order t h a t i t may be a d d i t i o n a l l y c l e a r t h a t such items w i l l not be handled f o r nonmember banks, d i r e c t l y or i n d i r e c t l y . I t h i n k t h a t t h e word "Cashing" Government checks and warrants should be eliminated e n t i r e l y . Such items a r e not "cashed" i n f a c t except i n the case of items drawn by d i s b u r s i n g o f f i c e r s of t h e Government . I do not b e l i e v e t h a t i t i s necessary or a d v i s a b l e t h a t i n t h e Treasury c i r c u l a r Federal Reserve Banks be denominated e i t h e r as f i s c a l agents or d e p o s i t a r i e s of t h e United S t a t e s , and t h a t t h i s dilemma, which has p r e v i o u s l y e x i s t e d , could be obviated by making i t c l e a r t h a t i n handl i n g Government checks and warrants Federal Reserve Banks a c t only as a g e n t s of t h e i r d e p o s i t o r s and not i n any agent c a p a c i t y f o r t h e Government. C e r t a i n l y , t h e c i r c u l a r should be c l a r i f i e d and can be c l a r i f i e d , but I do not b e l i e v e t h a t t h i s w i l l be accomplished u n t i l we have an a b s o l u t e "show-down" with the Treasury Department, i n which we make i t p l a i n t h a t t h e i r c i r c u l a r must be prepared i n such form as t o o f f e r adequate p r o t e c t i o n t o the Federal Reserve Banks and t h a t u n l e s s t h i s i s done t h e banks w i l l accept Government items only f o r d e f e r r e d c r e d i t . This can be b e s t accomplished, i n my opinion, through a conference with the Treasury o f f i c i a l s a t which counsel f o r t h e Reserve Banks and the o p e r a t i n g o f f i c e r s of such banks a r e p r e s e n t . Of course, no such conference should be held u n t i l a preliminary conference between Federal Reserve Bank o f f i c e r s and counsel has been h e l d i n order t h a t when we meet ' n t h the Treasury Department we may be agreed as t o what we want. P l e a s e understand t h a t the foregoing a r e only my p e r s o n a l views. I f e e l c e r t a i n t h a t i f determined a c t i o n i s taken, something d e f i n i t e and s a t i s f a c t o r y can be accomplished. Very t r u l y yours , (S) ACA:MA Albert C. Agnew Counsel. COPY X-7169-c 3 9 0 FEDERAL RESERVE BAH OF ST. LOUIS November 28, 1931 Mr. Walter Wyatt, General Counsel, Federal Reserve Board, Washington, D. C. Dear Mr. Ifyatt: Enclosed you w i l l f i n d copy of a memorandum I handed Governor Martin on the subject of t h e r e p o r t of t h e Standing Committee on_Col1ections_on "Cashing Government Checks and Warrants." I am not i n a p o s i t i o n to know t h e d i f f i c u l t i e s the o p e r a t i n g Committee had to contend with i n meeting t h e l e g a l requirements suggested by the Counsel's Committee, n e v e r t h e l e s s , I do not "believe the Governors' Conference should a c t on the r e p o r t u n t i l t h e s e d i f f e r e n c e s have been ironed out - and I so advised Governor Martin. I r e g r e t t e d t h a t I could not be h e r e when t h e Committee met i n S t . Louis. Upon Mr, Walden's i n v i t a t i o n , I had made my arrangements t o be h e r e , but was suddenly c a l l e d upon to go with one of the N a t i o n a l Bank Examiners t o Corinth, Miss, t o pass on t h e l e g a l i t y of an arrangement whereby the City of Corinth was loaning one of t h e member banks i n the town c e r t a i n bonds owned by t h e c i t y to be used as c o l l a t e r a l t o the b a n k ' s borrowings from t h e Federal Reserve Bank. When we a r r i v e d a t 9:00 a . m . , t h e City Council were a l l assembled ready t o pass any ordinance I found necessary f o r them to p a s s , i n order to give t h e bank the r i g h t t o use t h e bonds a s c o l l a t e r a l with the Reserve Bank. They signed on t h e d o t t e d l i n e . I then prepared and had the Board of D i r e c t o r s of t h e bank sign t h e necessary Resolution a u t h o r i z i n g t h e pledging of the bonds to t h e Reserve Bank. We f i n i s h e d i n time f o r t h e member bank t o t a k e t h e s e bonds 150 miles by automobile t o Memphis, arrange f o r the loan, and secure t h e necessary funds t o continue business the next day as u s u a l , - otherwise, they would not have been a b l e to remain open. With k i n d e s t r e g a r d s , Very t r u l y y o u r s , (S) J a s . G. Mc Conkey, Counsel. 391 COPT ' X-7169-c-l Itovember 27, 1931 Mr. to. Mc C. Martin, Governor, F e d e r a l Reserve Bank of St. Louis, S t . Louis, Mo. Dear itr. Martin: R e f e r r i n g to the l e t t e r s u b j e c t "Cashing of Government Checks and Warrants by Federal Reserve Banks" signed by Mr. Walden, Chairman of t h e Standing Committee on C o l l e c t i o n s , dated August 12, 1931, and t h e suggestions contained t h e r e i n t h a t , i f i n the opinion of t h e s e v e r a l Counsel, no s e r i o u s l e g a l o b j e c t i o n s be found t h e r e i n the r e p o r t submitted by the Committee under d a t e of t h e 10th, i t would be submitted t o t h e next Governors' Conference. The s u b j e c t of Cashing Government' Checks and Warrants has been the source of a g r e a t deal of correspondence p a s s i n g between t h e Reserve Banks of Richmond, A t l a n t a and Hew York, t h e Federal Reserve Board and the Treasury Department, s i n c e 1922. The s u b j e c t was discussed a t a Conference of Counsel f o r t h e Federal Reserve Banks with r e p r e s e n t a t i v e from t h e Treasury Department, under d a t e of June 10, 1930, a t which time a l l t h e members of the Standing Committee on Collections (except Mr. A t t e bery) were p r e s e n t . Ho d e f i n i t e agreement was reached a t t h i s Conference, but the following Resolution was adopted: "RESOLVED, That the Chairman of t h e Governor's Conference be requested to i n s t r u c t t h e Standing Committee on C o l l e c t i o n s t o p r e p a r e a t e n t a t i v e d r a f t of a uniform check c o l l e c t i o n c i r c u l a r embodying t h e r e i n t h e suggested amendments t o Regulation J , the p r e p a r a t i o n of such t e n t a t i v e d r a f t to be made i n c o l l a b o r a t i o n with a sub-committee of Counsel t o the F e d e r a l r e s e r v e banks (such sub-committee t o be appointed by Counsel to t h e F e d e r a l Reserve Board and of which sub-committee Counsel to the Federal Reserve Board s h a l l be a member ex o f f i c i o ) , with t h e understanding t h a t such t e n t a t i v e d r a f t , when p r e p a r e d , s h a l l be submitted to the Federal r e s e r v e banks f o r c r i t i c i s m and/or approval pending the adoption by the Federal Reserve Board of t h e suggested amendments t o Regulation J . " Under d a t e of A p r i l 17, 1931, Mr. Hyatt advised the Federal Reserve Board t h a t s i n c e t h i s s u b j e c t was so c l o s e l y i d e n t i f i e d with b o t h the p r a c t i c a l operations of the Reserve banks and t h e i r l e g a l l i a b i l i t i e s t h a t i t would be a d v i s a b l e f o r t h e Conference of Governors, which was t o convene on A p r i l 27, 1931, t o r e f e r t h e m a t t e r back t o a s p e c i a l Committee of Counsel and operating off! c i a l s f o r study and report. 392 X-7169-c-l 2 Governor Martin. Mr. Wyatt advised me under d a t e of J u l y 22, 1930 t h a t , a f t e r a t a l k w i t h Governor Calkins, Chairman of the Governor's Conference, and Mr. Walden, he had named the Counsel f o r t h e A t l a n t a , Richmond and Hew York "banks sinc e they had developed the most of the d i s p u t e "between the "banks and the Treasury Department on the s u b j e c t . Mr. Wyatt was an ex o f f i c i o member of t h e committee. The Standing Committee on Collections met i n S t . Louis i n June 1931. Hone of t h e members of the Counsel's Committee were h e r e . I had intended a t t e n d i n g the Conference, hut had "been c a l l e d out of t h e City on l e g a l m a t t e r s and was not here when the Committee met. Under d a t e of August 14, 1931, Mr. Iftratt forwarded to me copy of l e t t e r he had w r i t t e n Mr. Walden, i n which strenuous object i o n s were i n t e r p o s e d t o c e r t a i n p a r t s of the r e p o r t . Some of the o b j e c t i o n s I t h i n k a r e well taken. I t would, t h e r e f o r e , appear to me t h a t t h e questions i s not ready to be acted upon by t h e Governor's Conference i n t h e f a c e of the o b j e c t i o n s o f f e r e d by Mr. Htyatt - but r a t h e r t h a t the matter be r e f e r r e d back to the j o i n t Committee of Counsel and o p e r a t i n g o f f i c i a l s , so t h a t the se d i f f i c u l t i e s could be ironed out b e f o r e any f i n a l a c t i o n i s taken by the Governor's Conference . R e s p e c t f u l l y submitted J a s . G. Mc Conkey, General Counsel. , 393 COPT X-7169-4 December 14, 1931. Mr. James G. McConkey, Federal Reserve Bank of S t . Louis, St. Louis, Missouri. My dear Mr. McConkey: I have read with much i n t e r e s t your l e t t e r of November 28, 1931, i n c l o s i n g f o r my information a copy of the memorandum which you had given to Governor Martin on November 27, 1931, with r e f e r e n c e t o t h e r e p o r t of the Standing Committee on C o l l e c t i o n s on "cashing Government checks and w a r r a n t s " . I am v e r y glad t h a t you t h i n k t h a t some of my o b j e c t i o n s to the r e p o r t of t h e Standing Committee on C o l l e c t i o n s a r e well taken, and I am very g r a t e f u l f o r your suggestion t h a t the matter should be r e f e r r e d t o a j o i n t committee of counsel and o p e r a t i v e o f f i c i a l s , so t h a t t h e s e d i f f i c u l t i e s could be ironed out b e f o r e any f i n a l a c t i o n i s taken by t h e Governors' Conference. I am a f r a i d , however, t h a t you a r e under the impression t h a t t h e Sub-committee of Counsel appointed pursuant to the r e s o l u t i o n adopted by the Conference of Counsel f o r t h e Federal r e s e r v e banks on June 10, 1930, was expected to a s s i s t the Standing Comm i t t e e on C o l l e c t i o n s i n d e a l i n g w i t h t h i s s u b j e c t and t h a t t h e f a i l u r e of t h e Sub-committee of Counsel t o a t t e n d t h e meeti n g of t h e Standing Committee on Collections which was held i n S t . Louis on June 23, 1931, and the consequent f a i l u r e of the r e p o r t of the Standing Committee on Collections to conform to X-7169-a r2- my views and those of Counsel f o r some of the Federal r e s e r v e "banks, may have r e s u l t e d from some neglect or omission on my p a r t , which i s not the c a s e . The r e s o l u t i o n adopted by the Conference of Counsel of the Federal r e s e r v e tanks on June 10, 1930, which i s quoted i n your memorandum to Governor Martin, p e r t a i n e d s o l e l y t o t h e r e v i s i o n of t h e uniform p r o v i s i o n s of the check c o l l e c t i o n c i r c u l a r s of t h e Federal r e s e r v e "banks so as to conform t o the amendments t o Regulation J which had "been recommended "by the Conference of Counsel. I t had nothing whatever t o do with the "cashing" of government checks and w a r r a n t s . The Committee of Counsel which I appointed pursuant to t h a t r e s o l u t i o n f u l l y discharged i t s f u n c t i o n s when i t met with the Standing Committee on Collections i n New York on or about August 1, 1930, and a s s i s t e d i n the r e v i s i o n of the uniform p r o v i s i o n s of t h e check c o l l e c t i o n c i r c u l a r s of t h e Federal r e s e r v e banks which were adopted and promulgated by t h e Federal r e s e r v e banks, on September 1, 1930, t h e d a t e on which the Board's amendment t o Regulation J became effective. Having f u l l y performed i t s f u n c t i o n s , t h a t committee went out of e x i s t e n c e , s i n c e i t was not c r e a t e d as a s t a n d i n g committee but only as a committee f o r a s p e c i f i c purpose. I t i s t r u e t h a t , during the Conference of Counsel which was h e l d h e r e i n June, 1930, we discussed with the Treasury Department t h e p r o v i s i o n s of Treasury Circular No. 176 and succeeded i n inducing t h e Treasury Department t o amend those p o r t i o n s of i t s c i r c u l a r which d e a l t with the c o l l e c t i o n of . 3 9 5 t3— X-7169-d bank checks "by the Federal r e s e r v e banks f o r t h e Treasury Department; but you w i l l remember t h a t we could not reach any a g r e e ment e i t h e r among ourselves or with o f f i c i a l s of t h e Treasury Department r e g a r d i n g the r e v i s i o n of those p r o v i s i o n s of the Treasury c i r c u l a r which p e r t a i n t o the "cashing" of government checks and w a r r a n t s by the Federal r e s e r v e banks, and i t was agreed to l e t t h a t matter remain i n abeyance i n d e f i n i t e l y . My memorandum of A p r i l 17, 1931, which r e s u l t e d i n the a c t i o n of t h e Governors' Conference of A p r i l 27 - 2 9 , 1931, r e f e r r i n g t o the Standing Committee on C o l l e c t i o n s the s u b j e c t of the "cashing" of Government checks and w a r r a n t s , s t a r t e d an e n t i r e l y new chapter and an e n t i r e l y new e f f o r t to o b t a i n amendments to the p r o v i s i o n s of the Treasury c i r c u l a r r e l a t i n g to the "cashing" of Government checks and warrants; and the Sub-committee of Couns e l which had been appointed pursuant to the r e s o l u t i o n of June 10, 1930, had no a u t h o r i t y to d e a l with t h i s s u b j e c t , and was not requested or i n v i t e d to a t t e n d the meeting of t h e Standirg Committee on C o l l e c t i o n s or to a s s i s t t h a t Committee i n any way. In my memorandum of A p r i l 17, 1931, suggesting t h a t t h i s s u b j e c t be c a l l e d to the a t t e n t i o n of the Governors' Conf e r e n c e , i n order t h a t a f u r t h e r e f f o r t might be made t o p u r suadc the Treasury Department t o r e v i s e and q u a l i f y t h e p r o - v i s i o n s of Sections 32 and 34 of t h e Treasury Department C i r c u l a r No. 176, as amended September 2, 1930, so as t o d e f i n e c l e a r l y t h e s t a t u s of t h e Federal r e s e r v e banks i n "cashing" government warrants and checks and so as to c l a r i f y ;* 3 9 6 X-7169-d t h e i r d u t i e s and r e s p o n s i b i l i t i e s i n doing so, I suggested t h a t i t would be a p p r o p r i a t e f o r the Governors' Conference t o r e f e r the matter to t h e "Standing Committee on C o l l e c t i o n s , t o the Conference of Counsel or to some other a p p r o p r i a t e committee f o r f o r study and r e p o r t " . The Board presented my memorandum to the Governors' Conferonce, which r e f e r r e d t h e s u b j e c t t o t h e Standing Committee on C o l l e c t i o n s f o r c o n s i d e r a t i o n and r e p o r t without suggesting t h a t a Committee of Counsel should be appointed to a s s i s t the Standing Cor.xd.ttee on C o l l e c t i o n s i n i t s c o n s i d e r a t i o n of t h e m a t t e r . A f t e r the conference, both Governor Francher and Mr. S t r a t e r t o l d me t h a t they thought t h e Governors' Conference ought t o have arranged f o r a Committee of Counsel t o c o l l a b o r a t e with t h e Standing Committee on Collections and said t h a t they would suggest i t t o Mr. Walden, Chairman of the Standing Committee on Collections» but I understand they f a i l e d to convey t h i s suggestion t o Mr. Walden. In f a c t , I was not consulted about t h e meeting of t h e Standing Committee on C o l l e c t i o n s and did not know i t had been c a l l e d u n t i l June 15, 1931, when I received a l e t t e r from Mr. Attobcry which i n c i d e n t a l l y mentioned t h e f a c t t h a t a meeting of the Committee had been c a l l e d to consider t h a t s u b j e c t on June 23, 1931. I immediately c a l l e d Mr. Walden on the telephone and suggested t h a t Counsel f o r some of the Federal r e s e r v e banks should be i n v i t e d t o a t t e n d the meeting; but he said t h a t he did not f e e l f r e e t o do so without the consent of the Committee, and t h a t the time was too s h o r t f o r him to o b t a i n the Committee's consent and a r r a n g e f o r the Counsel to a t t e n d . He seemed to f e e l t h a t i t was 3 9 7 . X-7169-d -5not necessary f o r any of the Counsel t o a t t e n d the meeting and s a i d t h a t the r e p o r t could "be submitted t o them f o r comment a f t e r a t e n t a t i v e d r a f t had "been prepared. I t o l d him t h a t I did not b e l i e v e t h a t t h i s would produce s a t i s f a c t o r y r e s u l t s and he r e p l i e d t h a t , inasmuch a s t h e meeting would "be held a t the Federal r e s e r v e hank of S t . Louis, the Committee could c a l l upon you f o r any l e g a l advice which i t d e s i r e d . A few days l a t e r he i n v i t e d me to a t t e n d the meeting, "but t h e time was so s h o r t and I was so busy t h a t I was unable t o a r r a n g e to do s o . On J u l y 22, 1931, Mr. Walden sent me a copy of the t e n t a t i v e d r a f t of the Committee's r e p o r t and i n v i t e d my comments; but I was extremely busy a t the time and had not had an opportuni t y to send him ray comments when I received a f i n a l copy of the r e p o r t on August 12, 1931. On August 13, 1931, I wrote Mr. Walden a l e t t e r expressing my disagreement with c e r t a i n p o r t i o n s of t h e Committee's r e p o r t , a f t e r a very h u r r i e d c o n s i d e r a t i o n t h e r e o f , and subsequently I sent copies t o Counsel f o r a l l F e d e r a l r e s e r v e banks for t h e i r information. I t h i n k t h a t , i n p r e p a r i n g i t s r e p o r t , t h e Committee f a i l e d to a p p r e c i a t e c e r t a i n of the l e g a l d i f f i c u l t i e s and dangers growing out of the ambiguity of the p r o v i s i o n s of Sections32 and 34 of the Treasury C i r c u l a r and a l s o misunderstood t h e l e g a l e f f e c t of t h e i r suggestion t h a t the Treasury Circular should show t h a t i n "cashing" Government warrants and checks, t h e Federal r e s e r v e banks a c t as a g e n t s f o r the banks from which they have r e c e i v e d 3 9 0 X-7169-a -6- such checks pursuant t o the terms of Regulation J . The Committee a p p a r e n t l y thought t h a t the p r o v i s i o n s of Regulation J would give the F e d e r a l r e s e r v e banks a l l of the p r o t e c t i o n which they need; "but I t h i n k t h i s i s a mistake. Regulation J i s designed t o p r o t e c t the Federal r e s e r v e hanks a g a i n s t l i a b i l i t y t o t h e h o l d e r s of checks f o r f a i l u r e t o c o l l e c t them; whereas what we need to o b t a i n through an amendment of the Treasury C i r c u l a r i s a c l a r i f i c a t i o n of t h e legal r i g h t s , d u t i e s and r e s p o n s i b i l i t i e s of the Federal r e s e r v e banks i n r e l a t i o n to t h e Treasury Department when they "cash" Government checks and warrants drawn on the Treasurer of the United S t a t e s . In other words, Regulation J de- f i n e s the d u t i e s of t h e Federal r e s e r v e banks as c o l l e c t i o n agents but i t does not undertake to d e f i n e t h e i r d u t i e s as agents to pay or "cash" checks f o r the Treasurer of the United S t a t e s . In my * opinion, t h e l a t t e r subject i s d e a l t with very u n s a t i s f a c t o r i l y i n t h e Treasury Circular and I d e s i r e to see i t c l a r i f i e d and improved. I would l i k e to see t h e Treasury C i r c u l a r amended so as to provide t h a t , i n "cashing" government checks and w a r r a n t s , the Federal r e s e r v e banks act as f i s c a l a g e n t s , thereby r e l i e v i n g them of a l l l i a b i l i t y when they a c t w i t h i n the scope of t h e i r a u t h o r i t y and w i t h ordinary c a r e . I would a l s o l i k e to see a p r o v i s i o n I n s e r t e d f i x i n g the time when a Government check s h a l l be considered t o be f i n a l l y p a i d ; since I understand t h a t -7- x-7i69~a 399 the Treasurer assumes the r i g h t to stop payment on such checks even a f t e r he has examined them, p e r f o r a t e d them, and entered them on h i s hooks a s p a i d . I also believe that the p r o v i s i o n s of Section 34 of t h e Circular should he amended so a s t o be e n t i r e l y c o n s i s t e n t with the t h e o r y t h a t Federal r e s e r v e "banks a c t only a s agents i n "cashing" such checks and t h a t they assume no l i a b i l i t y except f o r l o s s e s r e s u l t i n g from a f a i l u r e t o e x e r c i s e ordinary care or to a c t w i t h i n the scope of t h e i r a u t h o r i t y . I r e a l i z e , however, t h a t I may not appre- c i a t e some of t h a p r a c t i c a l d i f f i c u l t i e s involved i n t h e accomplishment of t h e s e o b j e c t s , and I am not w i l l i n g to commit myself d e f i n i t e l y to any s p e c i f i c proposal u n t i l t h e s u b j e c t has been thoroughly threshed out i n a j o i n t meeting between the Standing Committee on C o l l e c t i o n s and the Conference of Counsel or a Committee t h e r e o f . While I have not yet received o f f i c i a l n o t i f i c a t i o n of the a c t i o n t a k e n a t the r e c e n t Conference of Governors, I understand t h a t the r e p o r t of t h e Standing Committee on Collect i o n s was r e f e r r e d t o t h e Conference of Counsel f o r c o n s i d e r a t i o n and c o n s u l t a t i o n with the Standing Committee on C o l l e c t i o n s and o f f i c i a l s of t h e Treasury Department, with a view of o b t a i n i n g a c l a r i f i c a t i o n of the a p p l i c a b l e p r o v i s i o n s of t h e Treasury Department C i r c u l a r No. 176 with r e s p e c t to t h e d u t i e s and r e s p o n s i b i l i t i e s of t h e Federal r e s e r v e banks i n cashing Government checks and w a r r a n t s . I b e l i e v e t h a t t h i s should load to a s a t i s f a c t o r y s o l u t i o n of t h i s d i f f i c u l t y ; but I am a f r a i d i t would 400 X-7169-4 -8- be d i f f i c u l t t o arrange a j o i n t meeting of t h e Conference of Counsel f o r a l l Federal r e s e r v e banks and of t h e Standing Committee on C o l l e c t i o n s a t which t h i s s u b j e c t could be considered with s u f f i c i e n t thoroughness t o produce s a t i s f a c t o r y r e s u l t s , b e f o r e some time next summer. With apologies f o r the l e n g t h of t h i s l e t t e r and with b e s t personal r e g a r d s , I am C o r d i a l l y yours, (S) Walter Wyatt, General Counsel. WW gc -4 COPY X-7169-e LOCKE, LOCKE, STROUD & SAUDOLPH, F i r s t National Bank Building DALLAS, TEXAS. January 6, 1932. Walter Wyatt, General Counsel, Federal Reserve Board, Washington, D. C. Dear Mr. Wyatt:As requested in your telegram I am enclosing herewith f i l e of correspondence concerning t r e a s u r y checks involved in the f a i l u r e of the Citizens National Bank of Brownwood, Texas. S i n c e r e l y yours, (Signed) JPD: g J . P. D r e i b e l b i s . I COPY 4 0 2 X-7169-e-l December 29, 1931 Honorable G-. 0. Barnes A s s i s t a n t Treasurer of t h e United S t a t e s Treasury Department Washington, D. C. Sirs Reference i s made to your l e t t e r of November 21, 1931, concerning the following described checks: Check jTo. Date Amount 2595778 108170 9-30-31 9-30-31 $160.83 100.00 1150388 9-28-31 617.40 Payee Joseph Hamilton Clara Parr Achor as guardian of e s t a t e of Noah A. J . Achor Charles $. Bennett Drawer Symbol A. Zaponne 70-001 H. E. Waters J . B. Shommer 11-519 99-220 We a r e informed t h a t p l a n s a r e well under way whereby t h e C i t i z e n s National Bank of Brownwood w i l l reopen or a new bank w i l l be organized which w i l l succeed to i t s a f f a i r s . E i t h e r p l a n , of course, w i l l s a t i s f a c t o r i l y dispose of t h e s e p a r t i c u l a r items. Notwithstanding the foregoing, we t h i n k t h a t i t i s not i n a p p r o p r i a t e a t t h i s time to d i s c u s s the s u b j e c t g e n e r a l l y with you and express to you our views in regard to the problems which p r e s e n t themselves to us in connection with the general s u b j e c t . A f u l l understanding of the p o s i t i o n of t h i s bank in the handling of t h e s e items can b e s t be conveyed to you by p l a c i n g b e f o r e you the f u l l d e t a i l s of t h e handling of t h e p a r t i c u l a r items l i s t e d . Our information a s to how the items were handled by t h e o r i g i n a l d e p o s i t a r y bank and a l s o by your o f f i c e i s l i m i t e d to such f a c t s as a r e made known by the correspondence between t h i s bank and the o r i g i n a l d e p o s i t a r y bank and between t h i s bank and your o f f i c e . ever, most of t h e p e r t i n e n t f a c t s a r e d i s c l o s e d by t h a t correspondence. How- t 403 X-7169-e-l Page 2 The f i r s t two of those items were a p p a r e n t l y deposited in the C i t i z e n s n a t i o n a l Bank of Brownwood not l a t e r than October 1, 1931. d a t e v/e f i x by the endorsement on the back of the items in question. This They were r e c e i v e d by t h i s bank on October 2, 1931, in the cash l e t t e r of t h e C i t i z e n s National Bank dated October 1, 1931, the l e t t e r t o t a l i n g $804.48. In accordance with our usual p r a c t i c e , immediate c r e d i t was given upon these two items. That i s to say, t h e funds became s u b j e c t to immediate withdrawal, and i n t h i s r e s p e c t you a r e advised t h a t a t the c l o s e of t h a t d a y ' s b u s in e s s t h e C i t i z e n s National Bank had drawn i t s balance with us down to t h e sum of $43.02. The l a s t one of t h e t h r e e items mentioned above was a p p a r e n t l y dep o s i t e d in t h e C i t i z e n s n a t i o n a l Bank on October 3, 1931, such date being the date of the b a n k ' s endorsement. October 4 f e l l on a Sunday, and on October 5 the item was r e c e i v e d in the cash l e t t e r of t h e Citizens National Bank dated October 3, t h a t l e t t e r t o t a l i n g $813.90. This item was l i k e w i s e passed to the c r e d i t of the C i t i z e n s National Bank, and the funds r e p r e s e n t e d thereby became immediately a v a i l a b l e f o r withdrawal. We have no knowledge as to the circumstances under which t h e items were deposited with the C i t i z e n s National Bank other than i s r e f l e c t e d by the correspondence with the examiner in charge. We were advised, however, on October 16, 1931, by Ernest Lamb, t h e examiner in charge, t h a t t h e r e c o r d s of t h a t bank showed t h a t t h e p a r t i e s mentioned deposited the se checks f o r c r e d i t and t h a t in each i n s t a n c e they had checked a g a i n s t t h e i r balances b e f o r e the suspension of the ba-ik. We assume, t h e r e f o r e , t h a t the Brownwood bank gave immediate c r e d i t f o r the items and p e r m i t t e d the d e p o s i t o r s to withdraw funds a g a i n s t the items, in so f a r as they d e s i r e d to do so. Xr-7169-e-l The f i r s t two of t h e s e items were forwarded to your o f f i c e with our t r a n s c r i p t of October 2, and the l a s t was forwarded to your o f f i c e with our t r a n s c r i p t of October 5. your o f f i c e . We havo no knowledge as to when t h e s e items reached Our experience i s t h a t items mailed here on a given day reach •Washington upon t h e t h i r d day t h e r e a f t e r . At any r a t e , we assume t h a t the f i r s t two items reached your o f f i c e not l a t e r than October 6 and t h a t the l a s t item reached your o f f i c e not l a t e r than October 9. These d a t e s a r e f i x e d by the p e r f o r a t i o n s placed on t h e items in your o f f i c e . The C i t i z e n s n a t i o n a l Bank f a i l e d to open on October 6, 1931, and we assume t h a t i t was with knowledge of t h i s f a i l u r e t h a t the v a r i o u s payees, themselves or through the drawers of the various items, r e q u e s t e d your o f f i c e to d e c l i n e payment. Under d a t e of October 7, 1931, the f i r s t two items were r e t u r n e d to us by your o f f i c e with advice t h a t payment of t h e items was being declined in compliance with t h e r e q u e s t s dated October 6 from the drawer and payee, r e s p e c t i v e l y ; under d a t e of October 9, 1931, the t h i r d item was r e t u r n e d to us by your o f f i c e with advice t h a t payment of the same was being d e c l i n e d in comp l i a n c e with the r e q u e s t dated October 7, 1931, from t h e drawer. Being unable to e f f e c t c o l l e c t i o n of these items from t h e examiner in charge, we r e t u r n e d them to your o f f i c e under date of October 17, 1931. On October 28, 1931, the items were again r e t u r n e d to us by your office. In t h i s l e t t e r we were advised t h a t i n the case of checks which a r e deposited f o r c o l l e c t i o n i t i s t h e p r a c t i c e of the Comptroller of t h e Currency to charge the d e p o s i t o r ' s account and r e t u r n the checks to him i f h i s balance w i l l _iermit such a c t i o n , and t h a t i f the d e p o s i t o r ' s balance i s l e s s than the amount of the check, the bank i s t h e owner of the check to t h a t e x t e n t and the is returned Digitizedcheck for FRASER to the d e p o s i t o r upon repayment of t h e d i f f e r e n c e between h i s * Page 4 4 0 5 X—7169—e—1 balance and the amount of the check. I t was suggested, a l s o , t h a t our c o r - respondents should be advised t h a t checks received in your o f f i c e a r e p e r f o r a t e d with the date and assembled f o r i d e n t i f i c a t i o n purposes b e f o r e c l e a r a n c e or examination, and such p e r f o r a t i o n does not s i g n i f y t h a t a chock has been p a i d . Following the r e c e i p t of t h e items from you, we forwarded them to the examiner in charge, together with a copy of your l e t t e r to u s . The examiner again r e t u r n e d them to u s , and we wrote you under d a t e of November 9, 1931, quoting in i t s e n t i r e t y the l e t t e r of the examiner which accompanied the items. You now suggest to us t h a t as the f a i l e d b a n k ' s deposit t i c k e t s t a t e d d e f i n i t e l y t h a t i t was a c t i n g as agent f o r the d e p o s i t o r in the c o l l e c t i o n of checks, i t i s your understanding t h a t , u n l e s s the Federal Reserve Bank has a l t e r e d i t s p o s i t i o n or extended a d d i t i o n a l c r e d i t in r e l i a n c e or f a i t h upon t h e supposition t h a t the deposit in f a c t belonged to t h e bank, i t now has no r i g h t to o f f s e t proceeds of these items a g a i n s t the indebtedness owing to i t by t h e f a i l e d bank. Leaving f o r the p r e s e n t the l e g a l , as well as the e q u i t a b l e f e a t u r e s of the case, i t seems to us t h a t a g r e a t deal of the d i f f i c u l t y in these cases i s brought about by a l a c k of understanding upon the p a r t of t h i s bank, as well as i t s correspondents, a s to the circumstances under which a Government check or warrant may be considered p a i d . We have c a r e f u l l y considered the p r o v i s i o n s of Circular % . 176 of the Treasury Department, p a r t i c u l a r l y with r e s p e c t to t h e payment of Government checks and w a r r a n t s , and while i t i s c l e a r therefrom t h a t such items £ .406 Page 5 X-7169-e-l s h a l l bo considered, p a i d only a f t e r examination by the Treasury Department, t h e question of what a c t i o n on t h e p a r t of t h e Treasurer s h a l l amount t o payment i s l e f t unanswered. I t seems to us obvious t h a t a t some p o i n t i n t h e h a n d l i n g of a p a r t i c u l a r item some s p e c i f i c or d e f i n i t e a c t on t h e p a r t of t h e T r e a s u r e r should c o n s t i t u t e payment, b u t t h e c i r c u l a r i s e n t i r e l y s i l e n t on t h a t p o i n t , so f a r a s we a r e a b l e to d i s c e r n . In o t h e r 7,'ords, i t appears to us t h a t t h e r e a l and f i n a l question i s approached from a n e g a t i v e r a t h e r than a p o s i t i v e viewpoint. While we a r e advised a s to what w i l l n o t c o n s t i t u t e payment, we a r e not informed aa to what w i l l . We do observe from t h e c i r c u l a r t h a t t h e T r e a s u r e r r e s e r v e s only the u s u a l r i g h t of t h e drawee to examine, when r e c e i v e d , a l l Government checks and w a r r a n t s cashed by F e d e r a l r e s e r v e banks. We assume t h a t the p u r p o s e of the word " u s u a l " i s to r e s e r v e to t h e T r e a s u r e r t h e same r i g h t t h a t a commercial i n s t i t u t i o n doing, t h e same c h a r a c t e r of b u s i n e s s would have. We a l s o note t h a t t h e c i r c u l a r p r o v i d e s t h a t t h e T r e a s u r e r r e s e r v e s t h e r i g h t to examine t h e items when r e c e i v e d . From t h e language of t h e c i r c u l a r i t i s our u n d e r - s t a n d i n g t h a t t h e T r e a s u r y Department intended t h e r e b y to r e p r e s e n t t h a t upon r e c e i p t of a check or warrant i t would examine i t and a c t in r e g a r d to i t w i t h i n t h e same time r e q u i r e d of a commercial i n s t i t u t i o n > doing t h e same c h a r a c t e r of b u s i n e s s , or c e r t a i n l y w i t h i n a r e a s o n a b l e and d e f i n i t e time. We, of c o u r s e , r e a l i z e t h a t t h e p e r f o r a t i o n of t h e i t e m s , in i t s e l f , does not c o n s t i t u t e payment in t h e absence of o t h e r f a c t s and c i r c u m s t a n c e s . On t h e o t h e r ha©d, i t i s a circumstance which can be taken i n t o c o n s i d e r a t i o n with o t h e r circumstances in d e t e r m i n i n g whether or not payment h a s been made, because, a f t e r a l l , t h e u l t i m a t e q u e s t i o n i s one of f a c t . ( 407 X-7169-e-l Page 6 Without r e f e r e n c e to the handling of the p a r t i c u l a r items described in t h i s l e t t e r , we do f e e l t h a t if a commercial bank had r e c e i v e d an item, c r e d i t f o r which had a l r e a d y been passed to t h e d e p o s i t o r , held i t f o r over twenty-four hours, and p e r f o r a t e d i t with i t s c a n c e l l a t i o n stamp, t h e r e a r e few c o u r t s t h a t would not hold t h a t t h e item was p a i d or accepted. Returning to the l e g a l a s p e c t s of the p a r t i c u l a r c a s e s , as evidenced by the a v a i l a b l e f a c t s , we recognize, of course, t h e general p r o p o s i t i o n s a s s e r t e d by you in your l e t t e r of November 21, 1931, and while we agree t h a t the r i g h t s of t h e p a r t i e s may be f i x e d by c o n t r a c t evidenced by p r o v i s i o n s incorp o r a t e d in the d e p o s i t a r y b a n k ' s deposit s l i p , we f e e l t h a t , by t h e same token, the bank may, by i t s a c t i o n or by s p e c i a l c o n t r a c t , c r e a t e a d i f f e r e n t r e l a t i o n ship. In th e s e p a r t i c u l a r c a s e s , so we a r e advised, the d e p o s i t a r y bank gave immediate c r e d i t f o r the items and p e r m i t t e d the various d e p o s i t o r s to withdraw a g a i n s t them. That they did not withdraw a l l of the funds evidenced by thes e items was probably because they did not d e s i r e to do so. At any r a t e , i t i s our opinion t h a t the C i t i z e n s National Bank of Brownwood, by giving immediate c r e d i t without r e s t r i c t i o n , bought the items in question and c r e a t e d the r e l a t i o n s h i p of debtor and c r e d i t o r , r a t h e r than t h a t of p r i n c i p a l and agent. In t h i s connection, your a t t e n t i o n i s d i r e c t e d to the case of City of Douglas v. Federal Heserve Bank of D a l l a s , 271 U. S. 489. As to t h i s b a n k ' s p o s i t i o n in the t r a n s a c t i o n being a l t e r e d , i t seems to us t h a t every time i t r e c e i v e s a Government check or warrant and p a s s e s immediate c r e d i t to the forwarding bank, i t changes i t s p o s i t i o n . a matter of feet, i t i s because we a r e c o n s t a n t l y changing our p o s i t i o n by paying out funds and c r e a t i n g c r e d i t s s u b j e c t to immediate withdrawal t h a t As » Page 7 4 0 0 X-7169-e-l the question gives us so much concern. In conclusion, we a r e hoping t h a t under the circumstances you w i l l conclude t h a t the various payees have no claims except a s a g a i n s t the d e p o s i t a r y bank in which they chose to deposit t h e i r f u n d s , and, accordi n g l y , we a r e herewith r e t u r n i n g the items. Yours very t r u l y , Governor 409 COPY X-7169~e-2 COPY LETTERHEAD OF THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT, WASHINGTON O f f i c e of the Treasurer of the United S t a t e s In r e p l y i n g quote i n i t i a l s AWS: C Mr. L. G. Pondrom, A s s i s t a n t Cashier, Federal Reserve Bank, D a l l a s , Tex. November 21, 1931. REGISTERED MAIL Sir; Receipt of your l e t t e r of November 9 i s acknowledged, forwarding t h r e e checks, described below, drawn on t h i s o f f i c e and r e t u r n e d when p r e sented f o r payment because of drawers' and payees' r e q u e s t s due to the f a i l ure of The C i t i z e n s National Bank of 2rov/nwood, Texas, a f t e r t h e deposit of the checks t h e r e and b e f o r e they were p r e s e n t e d to t h i s o f f i c e f o r payment: Check No. Date Amount 1,150 ,388 2,595 ,778 108 ,170 9—28— 31 9-30-31 9-30-31 $617.40 160.83 100.00 Payee Charles E. Bennett Joseph Hamilton Clara Earr Achor as Gdn. of Est. of Noah A. J . Achor Drawer J . B. Schommer A. Zappone B. E. Waters Symbol 99220 70001 11519 I t appears t h a t when the checks were r e t u r n e d you acknowledged r e c e i p t of them under d a t e s of October 10 and 13 and wrote t h a t you ? e r e return^ing the checks to your endorser and a s soon as you received any information regarding them you would advise t h i s o f f i c e . The payee of the f i r s t check above, Mr. Bennett, telegraphed and wrote to t h i s o f f i c e on November 3, t h a t h i s check had been r e t u r n e d to him and he r e q u e s t e d t h a t stoppage be l i f t e d . In h i s l e t t e r he s t a t e d t h a t he had r e d e p o s i t e d the check in The F i r s t National Bank of Brownwood. On November S, he telegraphed t h a t complications had a r i s e n and r e q u e s t e d renewal of stoppage. The payee of the second check, Mr. Hamilton, wrote on October 16, t h a t the examiner in charge of the f a i l e d bank r e f u s e d to r e t u r n h i s check although t h e payee had tendered to the examiner the amount of t h e d i f f e r e n c e between h i s bapk balance and the amount of t h i s check. The f a i l e d b a n k ' s deposit t i c k e t s t a t e d d e f i n i t e l y t h a t i t was a c t ing a s agent f o r d e p o s i t o r s in the c o l l e c t i o n of checks. 4 1 0 Page 2 X-7169-e-S Under d a t e of October 17, yctu r e t u r n e d the three checks to t h i s o f f i c e with a. cooy of a l e t t e r from the examiner of the f a i l e d bank dated October 15, in which he r e t u r n e d the checks to you and s t a t e d in -oart: ii we a r e not in p o s i t i o n to give you a u t h o r i t y to charge t h e account of The Citizens National Bank of Brownwood with the checks." On October 28, the checks were again sent to you f o r r e t u r n to the r e c e i v e r of t h e f a i l e d bank with information as to the practice approved by t h e Comptroller of the Currency f o r handling such checks when deposited for collection. With your l e t t e r of November 9, you again forwarded t h e checks and quoted a l e t t e r from the Receiver in p a r t as follows: 11 'At the time these checks were r e t u r n e d to me with your l e t t e r of November 2nd, i t was my thought t h a t I could have the payees reimburse me the d i f f e r e n c e between the amount of the checks and t h e amount standing to t h e i r c r e d i t on t h e i n d i v i d u a l l e d g e r , which would enable me to make a debit a g a i n s t the account, which would close each of the accounts, and you in turn d e b i t the c r e d i t balance of The C i t i z e n s National Bank of Brownwood, Texas. Upon i n v e s t i g a t i o n , I f i n d t h a t you have closed t h e account of The Citizens National Bank on your books, and i t i s presumed t h e amount was a p p l i e d as a c r e d i t on the r e d i s counts of s u b j e c t bank with you, although I have never been advised to t h a t e f f e c t . As you a r e aware, I am not in a p o s i t i o n to draw d r a f t s a g a i n s t c r e d i t balances with o t h e r banks in order to reimburse you the amount of the checks involved, t h e r e f o r e , I am r e t u r n i n g the checks herewith and ask t h a t you p l e a s e acknowledge r e c e i p t of same. 1 " You also s t a t e d ; "Regarding the balance standing to the c r e d i t of The C i t i z e n s National Bank of Brownwood on our books, r e f e r r e d to in Mr. Lamb's l e t t e r , we advise t h a t t h i s balance has been a p p l i e d on the indebtedness of The C i t i z e n s National Bank cf Brownwood and the s u b j e c t bank does not show any balance to i t s c r e d i t a t the p r e s e n t time." As understood by t h i s o f f i c e the f a i l e d bank acted as agent f o r c o l l e c t i o n of out of town items deposited u n t i l c o l l e c t i o n was e f f e c t e d . The agency r e l a t i o n s h i p continued u n t i l the f a i l e d bank r e c e i v e d the proceeds from i t s subagent. Where an agent makes a d e p o s i t , even in h i s own name, of funds belonging to h i s p r i n c i p a l , the bank, although unaware of the b e n e f i c i a l ownership of such deposit cannot o f f s e t such deposit a g a i n s t an, indebtedness owing by such agent to the bank, where the bank has not a l t e r e d i t s p o s i t i o n or extended any a d d i t i o n a l c r e d i t , in r e l i a n c e or f a i t h upon the supposition t h a t the deposit in f a c t belonged to the agent, numerous decisions s u s t a i n t h i s view. I t thus appears t h a t the payees of these checks own t h e proceeds except to the extent t h a t the f a i l e d bank p e r m i t t e d withdrawals a g a i n s t the d e p o s i t s , u n l e s s the Federal Reserve Bank a f t e r the r e c e i p t of t h e s e items changed i t s p o s i t i o n to i t s detriment. No information a s to t h i s f e a t u r e i s contained i n the f i l e . i 4 1 : A X-7169-e-2 Page 3 The checks a r e again ruturned to you herewith and u n l e s s your bank can he shown to have changed p o s i t i o n to i t s detriment a f t e r r e c e i p t of the checks, i t would appear t h a t your o f f s e t t i n g them a g a i n s t an i n debtedness owing to you by the f a i l e d bank may not be upheld upon your further consideration. Respectfully, G. 0. Barnes (Signed) A s s i s t a n t Treasurer. Inclosures. 4 1 2 X-7169-0-3 COPY C O P Y LETTERHEAD OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF DALLAS November 23, 1931 Mr. G. 0. Barnes A s s i s t a n t Treasurer of th:> United S t a t e s Treasury Department Washington, D. C. SirUnder date of November 9, we forwarded you t h e f o l l o w i n g described Treasury warrants: number Amount Drawn to t h e order o f : 1,150,388 108,170 2,595,778 $617.40 100.00 160.83 Charles F. Bennett Clara F a r r Achor Joseph Hamilton. We do not appear to have r e c e i v e d an acknowledgment covering these items and s h a l l a p p r e c i a t e i t if you w i l l advise us whether they have reached your o f f i c e . Respectfully L. G. Pondrom A s s i s t a n t Cashier LGP:HH If 4 1 3 X-7169*>e-4 COPY C O P Y LETTTEH3AD OP THE FEDERAL RESERVE 3AH OF DALLAS November 9, 1931 Mr. G-. 0. Barnes A s s i s t a n t Treasurer of the United S t a t e s Treasury Department Washington, D. C. SirIn r e p l y to your l e t t e r of November 4, i n i t i a l e d "AWS-C," we r e t u r n T r e a s u r e r ' s check Mo. 1,150,383, f o r $617.40, drawn to the order of Charles F. Bennett, r e f e r r e d to t h e r e i n , t o g e t h e r with warrant f o r $100, No. 108,170, drawn to t h e order of Clara Farr Achor, Guardian of the E s t a t e of IToah A. J . Achor, and warrant No. 2,595,778, f o r $160,83, drawn to the order of Joseph Hamilton, which checks were mentioned in T r e a s u r e r ' s l e t t e r of October 28. Our a c t i o n becomes n e c e s s ary i n view of l e t t e r today r e ceived from Mr. Ernest Lamb, n a t i o n a l Bank Examiner in charge of the C i t i z e n s National Bank of Brownwood, r e t u r n i n g these warrants to u s , which we quote below; "With f u r t h e r r e f e r e n c e to the t h r e e checks drawn on the Treasurer of the United S t a t e s f o r $100, $160.83, and $617.40, payable to Clara Pharr Achor, Joseph Hamilton, and Charles F. Bennett, r e s p e c t i v e l y , about which t h e r e has been so much cont r o v e r s y , I am r e t u r n i n g the checks herewith. "As you were p r e v i o u s l y advised the payees of these checks deposited the items in The Citizens National Bank p r i o r to i t s suspension, r e c e i v e d immediate c r e d i t f o r the items a g a i n s t which c r e d i t each payee had checked p r i o r to t h e suspension of b u s i n e s s . At the time t h e s e checks were returned to me with your l e t t e r of November 2nd, i t was my thought t h a t I could have the payees re?imburse me t h e d i f f e r e n c e between the amount of the checks and the amount standing to t h e i r c r e d i t on the individual l e d g e r , which would enable me to make a d e b i t a g a i n s t the account, which would close each of the accounts, and you in t u r n d e b i t t h e c r e d i t balance of The C i t i z e n s National 3ank of Brownwood, Texas. "Upon i n v e s t i g a t i o n , I f i n d that you have closed t h e account of The C i t i z e n s National Bank on your books, and i t i s presumed the amount was a p p l i e d a s a c r e d i t on the r e d i s c o u n t s of s u b j e c t bank with you, although I have never been advised to t h a t e f f e c t . Xs7169»e=4 Page 2 i'Afc you ard atfare, 1 am not iti i p o s i t i o n tb diraw d r a f t s a g a i n s t c r e d i t "balances w i t h other banks in order to reimburse you t h e amount of t h e checks involved, t h e r e f o r e , I am r e t u r n i n g the checks herewith and a s k . t h a t you p l e a s e acknowledge r e c e i p t of same." Regarding the balance standing to the c r e d i t of t h e C i t i z e n s National Bank of Brottnwood on our books, r e f e r r e d to i n Mr. Lamb's l e t t e r , we advise t h a t t h i s balance has been a p p l i e d on the indebtedness of the C i t i z e n s National Bank of Brownwood and the s u b j e c t bank does not show any balance to i t s c r e d i t a t the p r e s e n t time. We s h a l l await your f u r t h e r advice in connection with t h e s e warrants and w i l l thank you to acknowledge t h e i r r e c e i p t . Respectfully L. G. Pondrom A s s i s t a n t Cashier LGP:HH Attachments fr X-7169-e-5 COP C .6 ^ Y LBTI5REEAD OF THE TREASURY UBPASTCTfS, fASHIKGTOK November 4, 1931 O f f i c e of Treasurer of the United S t a t e s In r e p l y i n g quote i n i t i a l s A7S-C , Cashier, Federal Reserve Bank, D a l l a s , Texas. Sir; Reference i s made to o f f i c e l e t t e r dated October 9, 1931, r e l a t i v e to check ITo. 115,388, dated September 28, 1931, drawn on t h i s o f f i c e to the order of Charles F. Bennett f o r $617.40 by J . B. Schommer, symbol 99-220, payment of which check was d e c l i n e d when p r e s e n t e d f o r the reason t h a t the C i t i z e n s Hational Bank of Brownwood, Texas, in which the item had 'been dep o s i t e d , subsequently closed. Inasmuch as the check was r e t u r n e d by the r e c e i v e r of t h e f a i l e d bank to t h e payee and as you do not appear to have entered c r e d i t in the T r e a s u r e r ' s account f o r t h i s item, i t w i l l be g r e a t l y a p p r e c i a t e d i f you w i l l communicate with your i n d o r s e r with a view of o b t a i n i n g t h e amount involved. 4 1 5 Respectfully, G. 0 . Barnes (Signed) Assistant Treasurer. f 4 1 6 X-7169-8-6 COPY C 0 E Y LSttSRHklAD Of TS6 FEDEELAL RESERVE BANK OP DALLAS November 9, 1931 Mr. Ernest Lamb National Bank Examiner C i t i z e n s National Bank Brownwood, Texas. Dear Mr. Lamb; This w i l l acknowledge r e c e i p t of your l e t t e r of November 6, enclosing to us the following described Treasury warrants: Number 1,150,388 2,595,778 108,170 Name of Payee Amount Charles F. Bennett Joseph Hamilton Clara Farr Achor a s Guardian of the E s t a t e of Noah A. J . Achor $617.40 160.83 100.00 We a r e quoting your l e t t e r to t h e Treasurer of the United S t a t e s today and s h a l l be p l e a s e d to advise you of any f u r t h e r developments t h a t might occur i n connection with t h e s e checks. Yours very t r u l y L. G-. Pondrom A s s i s t a n t Cashier LOP: EE C O P ? 417 Y X-7169~e~7 t , 0 ' P Y LETTERHEAD OF THE CITIZENS HATIOMAL BAlS Of BEOlOTOOD November 6, 1931, Federal Reserve Bank, D a l l a s , Texas. Gentlemen; With f u r t h e r r e f e r e n c e to the t h r e e checks drawn on t h e Treasurer of the United S t a t e s f o r $100.00, $160,83 and $617.40, payable to Clara Pharr Achor, Joseph Hamilton and Charles F. Bennett r e s p e c t i v e l y , about which t h e r e has been so much controversy, I am r e t u r n i n g the checks h e r e w i t h . As you were p r e v i o u s l y advised the payees of these checks deposited the items in The C i t i z e n s n a t i o n a l Bank p r i o r to i t s suspension, received immediate c r e d i t f o r the items a g a i n s t which c r e d i t each payee had checked p r i o r to t h e suspension of b u s i n e s s . At the time the se checks were r e t u r n e d to me with your l e t t e r of November 2nd, i t was my thought t h a t I could have the payees reimburse me the d i f f e r e n c e between the amount of the ,checks and the amount standing to t h e i r c r e d i t on the individual ledger which would enable me to make a d e b i t a g a i n s t the account, which would c l o s e each of t h e accounts, and you in turn d e b i t the c r e d i t balance of The C i t i z e n s National Bank of Brownwood, Texas. Upon i n v e s t i g a t i o n , I f i n d t h a t you have closed t h e account of The Citizens National Bank on your books and i t i s presumed the amount was a p p l i e d a s a c r e d i t on the r e d i s c o u n t s of subject bank with you, although I have never been advised to t h a t e f f e c t . As you a r e aware, I am not in a p o s i t i o n to draw d r a f t s a g a i n s t c r e d i t balances with o t h e r banks in order to reimburse you the amount of the checks involved, t h e r e f o r e , I am r e t u r n i n g the checks herewith and ask t h a t you p l e a s e acknowledge r e c e i p t of same. R e s p e c t f u l l y yours, Ernest Lamb, (Signed) National Bank Examiner. 4 1 8 X-7169-©r,§ C 0 P Y LETTERHEAD OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE 3AM OF DALLAS November 2, 1931 Mr. Ernest Lamb, National Bank Examiner, C i t i z e n s National Bank, Brownwood, Texas. Dear Mr. Lamb: We a r e e n c l o s i n g the three checks drawn on the Treasurer of the United S t a t e s f o r $100,00. $160.83 and $617.40, which you f o r warded to us i n your l e t t e r of October 16th a f t e r having r e f u s e d to accept t h e i r r e t u r n . We a r e a l s o enclosing copy of a l e t t e r from the Treasurer regarding the checks t h a t i s s e l f - e x p l a n a t o r y . The check drawn to the order of Clara F a r r Achor ag. Gdn. of E s t . of Noah A. J . Achor should "be endorsed e x a c t l y a s drawn "before i t i s a g a i n p r e s e n t e d f o r payment. P l e a s e acknowledge r e c e i p t of the check and advise us r e garding the m a t t e r . Yours very t r u l y , L. 6. Pondrom, A s s i s t a n t Cashier. LGP/S s t 419 X-7169-e-9 C O P Y LETTERHEAD OF THE EEEER&L KBSBBVB BANK Of nAT.TAR November 5, 1931 Mr. Joseph Hamilton P , 0 . Box 813 Brownwood, Texas Dear S i r : This w i l l acknowledge r e c e i p t of your l e t t e r of November 4, e n c l o s i n g United S t a t e s Treasury check Mo. 2595778, d a t e d September 30, d r a m to your order f o r $160.83. We observe t h a t you would have us cancel our e n dorsement in order t h a t f u r t h e r n e g o t i a t i o n of the check may be accomplished. This i s t o advise t h a t c e r t a i n m a t t e r s i n connection w i t h t h i s p a r t i c u l a r warrant a r e s t i l l under a d j u s t ment w i t h Mr. Ernest Iamb, Examiner i n Charge of t h e C i t i z e n s n a t i o n a l Bank of Brownwood, and we a r e not a t the p r e s e n t time a t l i b e r t y to cancel our endorsement. We have r e t u r n e d the warrant today t o Mr. Lamb and suggest t h a t you c a l l upon him, and he w i l l be g l a d t o f u l l y explain the m a t t e r . Yours very t r u l y I . 0 . Pondrom A s s i s t a n t Cashier LGP:HH t 4 2 0 X-7169-e-10 C O P Y LETTERHEAD OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF TIAT.T.AR November 5, 1931 t Mr. Ernest Lamb Examiner in Charge C i t i z e n s National Bank Brownwood, Texas Dear Mr. Lamb: F u r t h e r i n g our telephone conversation r e g a r d i n g c e r t a i n Government w a r r a n t s , one of these checks f o r $160.83 was received by u s today d i r e c t from the payee, Joseph Hamilton. We a r e w r i t i n g Mr. Hamilton t h a t the warrant has been r e t u r n e d to you and t h a t he should g e t i n touch with you with f u r t h e r r e f e r e n c e t o i t s payment. We might s t a t e t h a t he has asked us to cancel our endorsement i n order t h a t the warrant may "be n e g o t i a t e d . This, of course, we cannot do u n t i l the question now in controversy is settled. P l e a s e acknowledge r e c e i p t of the e n c l o s u r e . Yours very t r u l y L. G. Pondrom A s s i s t a n t Cashier LGSPsHH Attachment 421 X-.7169-.eall C O P Y Post O f f i c e Box 813, Brownwood, Texas, November 4, 1931. Federal Reserve Bank of D a l l a s , D a l l a s , Texas. Gentlemen: I am enclosing check No. 3,595,778 dated September 30, 1931, f o r $160.83, drawn on the Treasurer of the United S t a t e s to the order of the undersigned by A. Zappone, symbol 70-001. Payment on t h i s check has been suspended. In accordance with i n s t r u c t i o n s from the Treasurer of the United S t a t e s to have a l l endorsements cancelled b e f o r e r e d e p o s i t i n g t h i s item you a r e kindly requested t o cancel your endorsement thereon and r e t u r n to undersigned. Yours very t r u l y Joseph Hamilton (Signed) 4 2 2 X-7169-Q-12 C O P Y IJCTTERHEAD 0 1 THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF DALLAS November 4 , 1931 Mr. Dean Bippetoe, A s s i s t a n t Cashier F i r s t N a t i o n a l Bank Brownwood, Texas Dear Mr. Bippetoe: We r e f e r to your l e t t e r of November 3, e n c l o s i n g Treasu r y warrant No. 1150388, drawn to the order of Charles F. Bennett f o r $617,40, r e q u e s t i n g t h a t , i f i n o r d e r , the amount be c r e d i t e d to your a c c o u n t . As advised you over the telephone today, t h i s w a r r a n t i s i n c o n t r o v e r s y , having "been returned to us "by the Treasurer of the United S t a t e s f o r reclamation through the Examiner i n Charge of the C i t i z e n s National Bank of Brownwood on account of the f a c t t h a t the payeee had requested t h a t payment he stopped on i t . We r e t u r n e d the warrant to Mr. Lamb, Examiner i n Charge of the C i t i z e n s National Bank a t Brownwood f o r reimbursement, and t h i s m a t t e r i s s t i l l r e c e i v i n g Mr. Lamb's c o n s i d e r a t i o n . Theref o r e we r e t u r n the warrant to you and a s k t h a t you g e t i n touch with Mr. TjmWh so t h a t he may he p r e s e n t when you d i s c u s s the matt e r w i t h your d e p o s i t o r , who we understand i s the payee, Charles F. B e n n e t t . Kindly f a v o r us "by acknowledging r e c e i p t of the e n c l o s u r e . Yours very t r u l y L. G-. Pondrom A s s i s t a n t Cashier LGPjHH Attachment cc to Mr. Ernest Lamb N a t i o n a l Bank Examiner c/o C i t i z e n s National Bank Brownwood, Texas 4 2 3 X-7169-e-13 0 6 P Y IS1TBEHELAD OF THE FIRST NATIONAL BASK, BROWNWOOD, TEXAS November 3, 1931. Federal Reserve Bank i n D a l l a s , Dallas, Texas. Gentlemen: We enclose h e r e i n Adjusted Service C e r t i f i c a t e loan check by J . 3 . Schommer, Disbursing Clerk on the Treasurer of t h e United S t a t e s , d a t e d September 28, 1931, and b e i n g numbered 1,150,388, i n the sum of $617.40, payable to the order of Charles F . Bennett, 109 E. Chandler, Brownwood, Texas. P r i o r endorsements on t h i s item i n d i c a t e s t h a t i t was d e p o s i t e d i n the C i t i z e n s National Bank of t h i s c i t y on October 3rd, by payee, b u t on account of the closing of t h a t bank, payment was requested to be stopped, and the item has consequently been returned to the payee, who has today wired the Treasurer of the United S t a t e s a t Washington, a s f o l l o w s : " L i f t stop payment a g a i n s t check #1150388 J . B. Schooner d i s b u r s i n g c l e r k to Charles F. Bennett $617.40, a d j u s t e d s e r v i c e c e r t i f i c a t e loan and confix® your a c t i o n to F i r s t National Bank, Brownwood, since check has now been r e t u r n e d to me by o t h e r bank. 11 * I f i t i s now in order to pay t h i s check, we w i l l thank you to c r e d i t our account and advise us when f i n a l l y p a i d , i n order t h a t we may pay the funds over to the endorser of the check only when we have r e c e i v e d f i n a l payment. Yours very t r u l y , Dean Bippetoe (Signed) A s s i s t a n t Cashier. Y-r X-7169-S-14 6 0 F Y EBTTBEHEib Off THE TBEASUBY DEPARTMENT, WASHINGTON O f f i c e of Treasurer of the United S t a t e s In r e p l y i n g quote i n i t i a l s AWS:C Cashier, Federal Reserve Bank, Dallas, lex. October 28, 1931. # REGISTERED MAIL Sir: Herewith a r e r e t u r n e d checks received with your l e t t e r of October 17, wi vh inclosure from Ernest Iamb, n a t i o n a l Bank Examiner, Brownwood, Texas, a s f o l l o w s : Check Ho. Symbol Amoint 108,170 11519 $100.00 1,150,388 2,595,778 99230 70001 617.40 160.83 Payee Clara l a r r Achor a s Gdn. of E s t . of IToah A . J . Achor Charles F. Bennett Joseph Hamilton In case of checks which were deposited f o r c o l l e c t i o n i t i s the p r a c t i c e of the Comptroller of the Currency to charge the d e p o s i t o r ' s account and r e t u r n the checks to him i f h i s balance w i l l permit such a c t i o n . I f t h e d e p o s i t o r ' s balance i s l e s s than the amount of the check the bank i s owner of t h e check to t h a t e x t e n t , and the check i s r e t u r n e d to the d e p o s i t o r upon repayment of the d i f ference between h i s balance and the amount of the check. P l e a s e r e t u r n the checks to the r e p r e s e n t a t i v e of the Citizens N a t i o n a l Bank, Brownwood, Texas, and advise t h i s o f f i c e in d e t a i l a s to h i s p o s i t i o n i f you a r e not reimbursed w i t h i n a reasonable time. Your correspondent should be advised t h a t checks received i n t h i s o f f i c e a r e p e r f o r a t e d with a d a t e and symbols f o r i d e n t i f i c a t i o n purposes b e f o r e clearance or examination and such p e r f o r a t i o n does not s i g n i f y t h a t a check has been p a i d . Respectfully, W. 0 . Woods Treasurer. Inclosures. (Signed) 4 2 5 X-7169-e~15 O O P Y LETTERHEAD OF THE PEBERAL RESERVE BANK OP DALLAS October 17, 1931. Hon. W. 0 . Woods, Treasurer of the United S t a t e s , Washington, 3D. C. Sirs Reference i s made to your l e t t e r s of October 7 t h and October 9th enclosing checks a s described below: Check No. 108,170 1,150,388 2,595,778 Payee Clara P a r r Achor, a s Guardian of E s t a t e of Noah A. J . Achor Charles P. Bennett Joseph Hamilton Amount • $100.00 617.40 160.83 The m a t t e r of o b t a i n i n g refund to cover the checks was r e f e r r e d to the N a t i o n a l Bank Examiner in charge of the C i t i z e n s National Bank, Brownwood, Texas, and we a r e today i n r e c e i p t of a l e t t e r from him, copy of which i s a t t a c h e d . The checks a r e enclosed f o r your d i s p o s i t i o n and we ask t h a t you p l e a s e advise us i f we can be of f u r t h e r a s s i s t a n c e . Respectfully, L. G>. Pondrom, A s s i s t a n t Cashier, LGP/S 8 4 2 6 X-7169~e~16 C O P Y LETTEHHEJU) Of THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF DALLAS October 13, 1931. Hon, W. 0 . Woods, Treasurer of the United S t a t e s , Washington, D. C. Sir: Receipt i s acknowledged of your l e t t e r of October 9th, 1931, i n i t i a l s AWS-C, enclosing check No. 1,150,388, drawn to the o r d e r of Charles F, Bennett f o r $617,40, on which payment has been stopped because the bank in which i t was d e p o s i t e d has closed* We a r e r e t u r n i n g the check to our endorser and a s soon a s we r e c e i v e any information regarding i t you w i l l be a d vised. Respectfully, L. 0. Fondrom, A s s i s t a n t Cashier. LGP/S s X-7169-e-l? 0 0 P Y LETTERHEAD OP THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT, WASHINGTON O f f i c e of Treasurer of the United S t a t e s In r e p l y i n g quote i n i t i a l s AWS-C October 9, 1931 Cashier, Federal Reserve Bank, D a l l a s , Tex. REGISTERED MAIL Sir: There i s r e t u r n e d herewith check No. 1,150,388 dated September 28, 1931, drawn on t h i s o f f i c e to the order of Charles 3P. Bennett, f o r $617.40, by J . B. Schommer, symbol No, 99230, which was l i s t b d i n your t r a n s c r i p t of the T r e a s u r e r ' s account dated October 5, 1931. Payment i s declined a t t h i s time i n comp l i a n c e w i t h r e q u e s t dated October 7, 1931, from drawer, who asked t h a t payment be stopped because the bank i n which the check was deposited had become i n s o l v e n t . P l e a s e r e t u r n the check through the i n d o r s e r s to the r e c e i v e r of the f a i l e d bank f o r d e l i v e r y to t h e payee i f the c i r cumstances warrant t h i s a c t i o n . Returned Check Credit Ticket No. 72194 i s i n c l o s e d , with which to e n t e r c r e d i t i n the T r e a s u r e r ' s account. Respectfully, W. 0 . WOODS Treasurer. (Signed) Countersigned: A s s t . Chief, Accounting D i v i s i o n . REBiNR AC-152 4 4 2 7 X-7169-e-18 d6f i LETTEBHEAD OF THE FEDERAL HE SERVE BANK OF DALLAS October 10, 1931. Hon. W. 0 . Woods, Treasurer of the United S t a t e s , Washington, E. C. Sir: Receipt i s acknowledged of your l e t t e r of October 7th, i n i t i a l s AWS-C, e n c l o s i n g check No. 2,595,778, drawn to the order of Joseph Hamilton f o r $360.83, on which payment has been stopped "because the bank in which i t was deposited has c l o s e d . We a r e r e t u r n i n g the check to our endorser and a s soon a s we r e c e i v e any information regarding i t you w i l l be a d v i s e d . Respectfully, L. G-. Pondrom, A s s i s t a n t Cashier. LGEP/S s C O P Y EETIEEHEAD OF THE ZEDBEAL RESERVE BAM 07 DALLAS October 10, 1931. Hon. W. 0 . Woods, Treasurer of the United S t a t e s , Washington, T. C. Sir: Receipt i s acknowledged of your l e t t e r of October 7th, i n i t i a l s AWS-C, enclosing check lio, 108,170, drawn to t h e order of Clara P a r r Achor a s Gdn. of E s t . of Noah A. J . Achor f o r $100.00, on which payment has been stopped because the bank i n which i t was deposited has closed* We a r e r e t u r n i n g the check to our endorser and a s soon a s we r e c e i v e any information regarding i t you w i l l be a d vised. Respectfully,. 1 . 6 . Pondrom, A s s i s t a n t Cashier, LGP S s 4 3 0 X-7169-e-20 0 0 F Y LEiTEBEEAD OP TREASURY DEPARTMENT, WASHINGTON October 7, 1931 O f f i c e of Treasurer of t h e United S t a t e s In r e p l y i n g quote i n i t i a l s AWS-C Cashier, Federal Reserva Bank, D a l l a s , Texas, REGISTERED MAIL Sir: There i s r e t u r n e d herewith check No. 2,595.778, dated September 30, 1931, drawn on t h i s o f f i c e t o the order of Joseph Hamilton, f o r $160#83, "by A. Zappone, symbol No. 70001, which was l i s t e d i n your t r a n s c r i p t of the T r e a s u r e r ' s account dated October 2, 1931. Payment i s d e c l i n e d a t t h i s time in compliance w i t h r e quest dated October 6, 1931, from the payee, who asked t h a t payment he stopped because the bank in which the check was d e p o s i t e d had become i n s o l v e n t . P l e a s e r e t u r n the check through the i n d o r s e r s to the r e c e i v e r of the f a i l e d bank f o r d e l i v e r y to the payee i f the c i r cumstances warrant t h i s a c t i o n . Heturned Check Credit Ticket No. 47030 i s i n c l o s e d , with which to e n t e r c r e d i t in the T r e a s u r e r ' s account. Respectfully, W. 0 . WOODS Treasurer. Countersigned} A s s t . C h i e f , Accounting D i v i s i o n . F:BB A0-152 4 3 1 X-7169~e^21 C .0 P Y LETTERHEAD t)f THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT, WASHINGTON O f f i c e of Treasurer of the United S t a t e s In r e p l y i n g quote i n i t i a l s AWS-C October 7, 1931. Cashier, Federal Reserve Bank, Dallas, Tex. REGISTERED MAIL Sir: There i s r e t u r n e d herewith check No. 108,170, d a t e d September' 30, 1931, drawn on t h i s o f f i c e to the order of Clara Earr Achor a s Gdn. of E s t . of Noah A. J . Achor, f o r $100.00, by R. E. Waters, symbol No. 11-519, which was l i s t e n i n your t r a n s c r i p t of the Treasurer 1 s account dated October 2, 1931. Payment i s d e c l i n e d a t t h i s time in compliance with r e q u e s t dated October 6, from the drawer, who asked t h a t payment be stopped b e cause the bank i n which the check was deposited had become i n s o l vent. P l e a s e r e t u r n the check through the i n d o r s e r s to the r e c e i v e r of the f a i l e d bank f o r d e l i v e r y to the payee i f the circumstances warrant t h i s a c t i o n . Returned Check Credit Ticket No. 47029 i s i n c l o s e d , w i t h which t o e n t e r c r e d i t i n t h e T r e a s u r e r ' s account. Respectfully, W. 0 . WOODS Treasurer. Countersigned: A s s t . Chief, Accounting D i v i s i o n . AC-152 KMD:REL The check should be indorsed e x a c t l y a s drawnClara Earr Achor a s Gdn. of E s t . of Noah A. J . Achor, b e f o r e i t i s again p r e s e n t e d f o r payment. X-7169-S-22 4 3 2 C..P. * 1 LETTERHEAD o r THE IBERAl BEE3RVE BANK 07 DALLAS October 10, 1931. Examiner i n Charge, Citizens N a t i o n a l Bank, Brownwood, Texas, Dear S i r : There i s r e t u r n e d herewith check No, 108,170, drawn to the order of Clara Farr Achor a s Gdn. of E s t . of Ivoah, A. J . Achor, f o r $100.00, which h e a r s the endorsement of -he C i t i z e n s National Bank, Brownwood, Texas, of October 1, 1931,, This check has been returned to u s "by the Treasury Department with a l e t t e r which, i n p a r t , reads a s f o l l o w s ; "Payment i s d e c l i n e d a t t h i s time i n compliance w i t h r e q u e s t d a t e d October 6, from the drawer, who asked t h a t payment be stopped because the bank i n which the check was d e p o s i t e d had become i n s o l v e n t . "Please r e t u r n the check through the i n d o r s e r s to the r e c e i v e r of the f a i l e d bank f o r d e l i v e r y to the payee i f the circumstances warrant t h i s a c t i o n . " Under the circumstances p l e a s e a d v i s e us i f i t w i l l be i n order f o r u s to charge the account of the C i t i z e n s National Bank, Brownwood, Texas, to c o v e r . Yours very t r u l y , L., Q-. Pondrom, A s s i s t a n t Cashier. LGP/S s X-7169~e«23 U p i LStlEfiHEAD OT THE FEUEEAL RESERVE BAIJK OF DALLAS October 13, 1931* Examiner i n -Charge, Citizens N a t i o n a l Bank, Brownwood, Texas. Dear S i r : There i s r e t u r n e d herewith check No. 1,150,388, drawn to the o r d e r of Charles I . Bennett f o r $617,40, which b e a r s the endorsement of the C i t i z e n s National Bank, Brownwood, Texas, of October 3, 1931. This check has been returned to u s by the Treasury Department with a l e t t e r which, in p a r t , reads as f o l l o w s : "Payment i s d e c l i n e d a t t h i s time in compliance w i t h r e q u e s t dated October 7, 1931, from drawer, who asked t h a t payment be stopped because the bank i n which the check was d e p o s i t e d had become i n s o l v e n t , '•Please r e t u r n the check through the i n d o r s e r s to t h e r e c e i v e r of the f a i l e d bank f o r d e l i v e r y to the payee i f the circumstances warrant t h i s a c t i o n , " Under the circumstances p l e a s e a d v i s e us i f i t w i l l be i n order f o r us to charge the account of the C i t i z e n s N a t i o n a l Bank, Brownwood, Texas, to cover. Yours very t r u l y , L, Gr. Pondrom, A s s i s t a n t Cashier. LGP/S s 4.33 4 3 4 X-7169-e~24 6- 6 F Y LETTERHEAD Of THE INDERAL RESERVE BANK OF DALLAS October 10, 1931. Examiner i n Charge, C i t i z e n s N a t i o n a l Bank, Brownwood, Texas. Dear S i r s There i s r e t u r n e d herewith check No. 2,595,778, drawn to t h e o r d e r of Joseph Hamilton f o r $160.83, which b e a r s the endorsement of the C i t i z e n s National Bank, Brownwood, Texas, of October 1, 1931. This check has been r e t u r n e d to u s by the Treasury Department w i t h a l e t t e r which, i n p a r t , reads a s f o l l o w s : "Payment i s d e c l i n e d a t t h i s time i n compliance w i t h r e q u e s t d a t e d October 6, 1931, from the payee, who asked t h a t payment be stopped because the bank i n tzhich the check was d e p o s i t e d had become i n s o l v e n t , "Please r e t u r n the check through the i n d o r s e r s to the r e c e i v e r of the f a i l e d bank f o r d e l i v e r y to t h e payee i f the circumstances warrant t h i s a c t i o n . 1 1 Under the circumstances p l e a s e a d v i s e u s i f i t w i l l be i n order f o r u s t o charge the account of the C i t i z e n s N a t i o n a l Bank, Brownwood, Texas, to cover. Yours very t r u l y , L. G> Pondrom, Assistant Cashier. LGPJS s X-7169-e-25 4 3 5 A.,,JO P . I LETTERHEAD OP teE CITIZENS NATIONAL BANK OP BBOWOTOOD, BBGWNWOOD, TEXAS October 16* 1931. Pederal Reserve Bank, Dallas, Texas. Gentlemen: Receipt i s acknowledged of your l e t t e r s enclosing Government checks payable t o : Clara Parr Achor, as Guardian of E s t a t e of Noah A* J . Achor, f o r —————————— Charles P. Bennett - - - - - - - Joseph Hamilton - - - - - - - - - - - - - $100,00 617,40 160.83 which appear to have been returned to you on account of payment being d e c l i n e d in compliance with request dated October 6th from the drawers, who asked t h a t payment be stopped because the bank in which the checks were dep o s i t e d had become i n s o l v e n t . The records of t h i s bank show t h a t the p a r t i e s mentioned d e p o s i t e d these checks f o r c r e d i t and had checked a g a i n s t t h e i r balances before the bank suspended. In a d d i t i o n t h e r e t o each and a l l of the checks show to be punctured p a i d by the Treasury Department and, r e p l y i n g to your question in the l a s t paragraph of your l e t t e r s , you are advised t h a t we take the p o s i t i o n t h a t , based upon a l l the circumstances in the case, we a r e not in p o s i t i o n to give you a u t h o r i t y to charge the account of The C i t i z e n s National Bank of Brownwood with the checks. Therefore, we a r e r e t u r n i n g the checks to you r e q u e s t i n g t h a t they be r e t u r n e d through the r e g u l a r order with any n o t a t i o n you may deem proper to make. R e s p e c t f u l l y yours, Ernest Lamb (Signed) National Bank Examiner. 436 Copy X-7169-f June 2, 1932. Mr, J . S. Walden, J r . , Chairman, Standing Committee on C o l l e c t i o n s , Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond, Richmond, V i r g i n i a . Dear Mr. Walden: I have received and g r e a t l y a p p r e c i a t e your kind l e t t e r of June 1, 1932, regarding the m a t t e r of c a l l i n g a meeting of Counsel f o r the Federal Reserve Banks with t h e Standing Committee on C o l l e c t i o n s to consider the m a t t e r of "cashing" government checks and warrants by Federal Reserve Banks under the terms of Treasury Department C i r c u l a r No. 176. I a p p r e c i a t e the d i f f i c u l t i e s of o b t a i n i n g f u l l a t t e n d ance a t a conference of t h i s kind during the summer months, and I p e r s o n a l l y would p r e f e r to hold the conference in the l a t e summer or e a r l y f a l l ; but Counsel f o r one of the Federal Reserve "RariVp has a l r e a d y c a l l e d my a t t e n t i o n to the f a c t t h a t many of the c o u r t s which take r e c e s s e s during the summer resume t h e i r terms during the month of September, and t h i s makes the months of September and October u n u s u a l l y busy months f o r some of t h e Counsel. I t Lay be n e c e s s a r y , t h e r e f o r e , t o hold the c o n f e r - ence not l a t e r than August, in order t o enable Counsel to r e t u r n home i n time to a t t e n d to t h e i r l i t i g a t i o n . In the circum- s t a n c e s , I s h a l l ask Counsel f o r each of the Federal Reserve Banks to a d v i s e me when i t would be most convenient to him to X-7169-f Mr, J . S» Walden, J r . 437 2 a t t e n d such a conference and 1 suggest t h a t you make s i m i l a r i n q u i r i e s of the members of your Committee and advise me of the results. This i s the only way t h a t I know of whereby we can a r r i v e a t a d a t e convenient to a m a j o r i t y of a l l those concerned. I wish you would a l s o be giving some thought t o the question of procedure. Undoubtedly, i t would be a d v i s a b l e f o r the Counsel and t h e members of the Standing Committee on C o l l e c t i o n s to agree upon a d e f i n i t e p o s i t i o n b e f o r e t a k i n g the m a t t e r up with the o f f i c i a l s of the Treasury Department; but the o f f i c i a l s of the Treasury Department may d e s i r e to have some time to study the recommendations of the Counsel and the Standing Committee on c o l l e c t i o n s b e f o r e they p a r t i c i p a t e in a c o n f e r e n c e . I t may be necessary to hold two conferences on the s u b j e c t ; but I t h i n k t h i s should be avoided i f p o s s i b l e . I f a second conference i s found to be a b s o l u t e l y n e c e s s a r y , i t would seem to me t h a t i t need not be a t t e n d e d by a l l of the Counsel and a l l of the members of the Standing Committee on C o l l e c t i o n s , but t h a t the views of the Federal Reserve Banks could be p r e s e n t e d by a small committee appointed f o r t h a t purpose. Apparently the Governors' Conference does not d e s i r e f u r t h e r recommendations to be submitted to them b u t expects the Counsel and the Standing Committee on C o l l e c t i o n s to take the m a t t e r up with the o f f i c i a l s of the Treasury Department, agree upon the necessary changes i n Treasury Department C i r c u l a r 176, and r e p o r t X-7169-f Mr. J . S. Walddn, the r e s u l t s . tfrs 3 I have no f i x e d views about the m a t t e r , however, and I s h a l l be very g l a d to receive any suggestions which you or any of the o t h e r i n t e r e s t e d p a r t i e s may have to o f f e r . I have received t h e e i g h t copies of the r e p o r t of the Standing Committee on C o l l e c t i o n s which you sent me and have obtained one a d d i t i o n a l copy from a member of the Board. I am, t h e r e f o r e , sending copies t o Counsel f o r a l l the Federal Reserve Banks except Chicago and D a l l a s , who I understand from your l e t t e r a l r e a d y have c o p i e s , and Mr, Wallace, who can o b t a i n a copy from you. With k i n d e s t p e r s o n a l regards and a l l b e s t wishes, I am Very t r u l y yours, WW/gc Walter Wyatt, General Counsel. 438 4 3 9 .QoftV X-7169-g Jede 1-4,1fieserve Bank Of Richmond, June 1, 1932. Uti Walter Wyatt, General Counsel, f e d e r a l Reserve Board, Washington, D. C. Dear Mr. Ifyatt: Your l e t t e r of May 36th, which was acknowledged by Mr. Broaddus, was r e c e i v e d during my absence from the bank which accounts x f o r my delay in r e p l y i n g . I can f u l l y a p p r e c i a t e the f a c t t h a t you have been burdened with important m a t t e r s and t h a t i t has been impossible f o r you to c a l l a meeting of the counsel f o r the Federal r e s e r v e banks with t h e Standing Committee on C o l l e c t i o n s to consider the m a t t e r of "cashing" Government checks and w a r r a n t s by Federal r e s e r v e banks, which was r e f e r r e d to the counsel by the Governors' Conference of December, 1931. I am sure t h a t the o f f i c e r s of the Federal r e s e r v e banks a l s o have been burdened with work r e s u l t i n g p r i n c i p a l l y from the o p e r a t i o n s of the Reconstruction Finance Corpor a t i o n , as I know t h i s has been t r u e i n my c a s e . I t w i l l be agreeable with me to hold a meeting of the counsel and Standing Committee on C o l l e c t i o n s during the summer a f t e r Congress a d j o u r n s , and I presume t h a t one time w i l l s u i t about a s w e l l a s a n o t h e r . We a r e almost c e r t a i n , however, to run into v a c a t i o n s and i t i s more than l i k e l y t h a t some of the members of the Committee, a s w e l l a s c e r t a i n counsel, may not be able to a t t e n d the meeting u n l e s s they know of i t f a r enough in advance to arrange t h e i r v a c a t i o n a c c o r d i n g l y . You w i l l r e c a l l t h a t i n the summer of 1930 when the Standing Committee on Collections was c o n s i d e r i n g the s u b j e c t of a uniform cash c o l l e c t i o n c i r c u l a r in c o n s u l t a t i o n with a s p e c i a l committee of counsel we experienced a g r e a t d e a l of d i f f i c u l t y i n reaching an agreement on the f i n a l r e p o r t and I was considerably delayed and inconvenienced because c e r t a i n of the members p r e s e n t a t our f i r s t meeting s t a r t e d on v a c a t i o n s and could not be r e a c h e d . While p e r s o n a l l y I am p e r f e c t l y agreeable to holding the meeting t h i s summer, a s long a s the m a t t e r has a l r e a d y been delayed f o r q u i t e a while i t might be a d v i a a l k to arrange a meeting during the e a r l y f a l l a f t e r a l l of the counsel and members of the C o l l e c t i o n Committee have r e t u r n e d from v a c a t i o n . I t occurs to me t h a t your work w i l l be made very much e a s i e r and you w i l l not be s u b j e c t e d to the s t r a i n t h a t w i l l almost c e r t a i n l y r e s u l t i f you attempt to have a n agreement reached b e f o r e the summer i s o v e r . I w i l l be very glad to communicate with the o t h e r members of the Standing Committee on C o l l e c t i o n s a s soon a s you l e t me know i f you d e s i r e to have the meeting during the summer months. I am sending you under separate cover e i g h t copies of the r e p o r t of the Standing Committee on C o l l e c t i o n s to the f a l l 1931 Conference of Governor?,, The t o p i c under c o n s i d e r a t i o n i s t r e a t e d a t the beginning of the r e p o r t . Ifor 4 4 0 X-7169-g Mr, Walter Wyatt> Geharal Cotinsdi» Federal Heserve BoArd, Washington; Dt Ci «4 & June 1, 1932 supply of e x t r a copies has been e n t i r e l y exhausted.and I am sorry t h a t I am not able to send you the number r e queste d. When the r e p o r t was f i n i s h e d i n August, 1931, I sent a copy to the Governor of each Federal Reserve Bank with a l e t t e r d a t e d August 13th, and I a l s o sent an e x t r a copy to the Federal Be serve Banks of Chicago, and Dallas f o r the use of t h e i r c o u n s e l . I a l s o sent a s e p a r a t e copy to each member of the Standing Committee on C o l l e c t i o n s , r e p r e s e n t i n g the Federal Reserve Banks of New York, P h i l a d e l p h i a , Cleveland, Richmond and S t . Louis. There a r e , t h e r e f o r e , seven banks which should have a t l e a s t two copies of the r e p o r t in t h e i r f i l e s . I t does not seem to me t h a t i t w i l l be necessary f o r you to send a copy to those banks r e p r e s e n t e d on the c o l l e c t i o n committee since I am sure t h a t the committee members can l e t t h e i r counsel have t h e i r c o p i e s . I a l s o sent on August 12th seven copies to Mr* McClelland f o r the use of members of the Federal Reserve Board and i t i s probable t h a t you w i l l f i n d some of these in the f i l e s of the Board. When the conference met the f i r s t of December, 1931, I sent to Mr. S t r a t e r , c/o Federal Reserve Board, twelve copies f o r the use of the Governors a t t e n d i n g the Governors' Conference. I t i s probable t h a t some of these were l e f t i n the conference room and no doubt you w i l l be able to g e t t o g e t h e r a s u f f i c i e n t number of copies to supply the counsel. Awaiting your f u r t h e r a d v i c e s , I am with h i g h e s t p e r s o n a l regards, Cordially yours, (Signed) J . S. Walden, J r . , Controller. JSW:D *