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January 10, 1935
Mr* A* P* Giannini, Chairman
Transamerica Corporation
San Francisco, California
Reference:

Legal Basis for the Issuance of Voting
“by the Federal Reserve Board*

Dear Mr. Giannini:
In response to your request for a statement of the ques­
tions of law involved in the application of Transamerica Corpor­
ation for a voting permit, I am submitting herewith a review of
the legislative history of the applicable provisions of the Bank­
ing Act of 1933 together .with a discussion of how these provisions
in my opinion were intended to be construed and applied*

STATUTORY PROVISIONS

The statutory provisions relating to the voting of the
shares of national banks under voting permits read as follows:
"Sec* 19. Sec* 5144. In all elections of directors,
each shareholder shall have the right to vote the number
of shares owned by him for as many persons as there are
directors to be elected, or to cumulate such shares and
give one candidate as many votes as the number of directors
multiplied by the number of his shares shall equal, or to
distribute them on the same principle among as many candi­
dates as he shall think fit; and in deciding all other
questions at meetings of shareholders, each shareholder
shall be entitled to one vote on each share of stock held
by him; except (l) that shares of its own stock held by
a national bank as sole trustee shall not be voted, and
shares of its own stock held by a national bank and one
or more persons as trustees may be voted by such other




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person or persons, as trustees, in the same manner as if
he or they were the sole trustee, and (2) shares con­
trolled by any holding company affiliate of a national
bank shall not be voted unless such holding company af­
filiate shall have first obtained a voting permit as
hereinafter provided, which permit is in force at the
time such shares are voted. Shareholders may vote by
proxies duly authorized in writing} but no officer,
clerk, teller, or bookkeeper of such bank shall act as
proxy; and no shareholder whose liability is past due
and unpaid shall be allowed to vote.
"For the purposes of this section shares shall be
deemed to be controlled by a holding company affiliate
if they are owned or controlled directly or indirectly
by such holding company affiliate, or held by any trustee
for the benefit of the shareholders or members thereof.
"Any such holding company affiliate may make applica­
tion to the Federal Reserve Board for a voting permit
entitling it to cast one vote at all elections of direc­
tors and in deciding all questions at meetings of share­
holders of such bank on each share of stock controlled
by it or authorizing the trustee or trustees holding the
stock for its benefit or for the benefit of its share­
holders so to vote the same. The Federal Reserve Board
may, in its discretion, grant or withhold such permit as
the public interest may require. In acting upon such
application, the Board shall consider the financial
condition of the applicant, the general character of
its management, and the probable effect of the granting
of such permit upon the affairs of such bank, but no
such permit shall bo granted except upon the following
conditions;
’
"(a) Every such holding company affiliate shall, in
making the application for such permit, agree (l) to
receive, on dates identical with those fixed for the
examination of banks with which it is affiliated,
examiners duly authorized to examine such banks, who
shall make such examinations of such holding company
affiliate as shall be necessary to disclose fully the
relations between such banks and such holding company
affiliate and the effect of such relations upon the
affairs of such banks, such examinations to be at the
expense of the holding company affiliate so examined;




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(2) that the reports of such examiners shall contain such
information as shall he necessary to disclose fully the
relations between such affiliate and such banks and the
effect of such relations upon the affairs of such banks;
(3 ) that such examiners may examine each’bank owned or con­
trolled by the holding company affiliate, both individually
and in conjunction with other banks owned or controlled by
such holding company affiliate; and (4) that publication of
individual or consolidated statements of condition of such
banks may be required;
1T(b) After five years after the enactment of the Banking
Act of 1933, every such holding company affiliate (l) shall
possess, and shall continue to possess during the life of
such permit, free and clear of any lien, pledge, or hypothe­
cation of cny nature, readily marketable assets other than
bank stock in an amount not less than 12 per centum of the
aggregate par value of all bank stocks controlled by such
holding company affiliate, which amount shall be increased by
not less than 2 per centum per annum of such aggregate par
value until such assets shall amount to 25 per centum of the
aggregate par value of such bank stocks; and (2 ) shall rein­
vest in readily marketable assets other than bank stock all
net earnings over and above 6 per centum per annum on the
book value of its own shares outstanding until such assets
shall amount to such 25 per centum of the aggregate par value
of all bank stocks controlled by it;
11(c) Notwithstanding the foregoing provisions of this sec­
tion, after five years after the enactment of the Banicing Act
of 1933, (l) any such holding company affiliate the share­
holders or members of which shall be individually and severally
liable in proportion to the number of shares of such holding
company affiliate held by them respectively, in addition to
amounts invested therein, for all statutory liability imposed
on such holding company affiliate by reason of its control of
shares of stock of banks, shall be required only to establish
and maintain out of net earnings over arid above 6 per centum
per annum on the book value of its own shares outstanding a
reserve of readily marketable assets in an amount of not less
than 12 per centum of the aggregate par value of bank stocks
controlled by it, and (2) the assets required by this section
to-be possessed by such holding company affiliate with it arid
for losses incurred in such banks, but any deficiency in such
assets resulting from such use shall be made up -within such
period as the Federal Reserve Board may by regulation prescribe;
!t(d) Every officer, director, agent, and employee of every
such holding company affiliate shall be’subjected to the same
penalties for false entries in any book, report, or statement




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of such holding company affiliate as are applicable to officers,
directors, agents, and employees of member banks under section
5209 of the Revised Statutes, as amended (U.S.C*, title 12,
sec* 592); and
u(e) Every such holding company affiliate shall, in its ap­
plication for such voting permit, (l)*show that it does not
own, control, or have any interest in, and is not participating
in the management or direction of, any corporation, business
trust, association, or other similar organization formed for
the purpose of, or engaged principally in,'the issue, flotation,
underwriting, public sale, or distribution, at wholesale or retail
or through syndicate participation, of stocks, bonds, debentures,
notes, or other securities of any sort (hereinafter referred to
as ’securities company’); (2) agree that during the period that
the permit remains in force it will not acquire any ownership,
control, or interest in any such securities company or participate
in the management in any such securities company or participate
in the management or direction thereof; (3) agree that if, at
the time'of filing the application for such permit, it owns,
controls, or has an interest in, or is participating in the
management or direction of, any such securities company, it will,
within.five years after the filing of such application, divest
itself of its ownership, control, and interest in such securities
company and will cease participating in the management or direc­
tion thereof, and will not thereafter, during the period that the
permit remains in force, acquire any further ov&iership, control,
or interest in any such securities company or participate in the
management or direction thereof; and (4) agree that thenceforth
it will declare dividends only out of actual net earnings.
"If at any time it shall appear to the Federal Reserve Board
that any holding company affiliate has violated any of the pro­
visions of the Banking Act of 1933 or of any agreement made
pursuant to this section, the Federal Reserve Board may, in its
discretion, revoke any such voting permit after giving sixty days’
notice by registered mail of its intention to the holding company
affiliate and affording it an opportunity to be heard. “Whenever
the Federal Reserve Board shall have revoked any such voting
permit, no national bank whose stock is controlled by the hold­
ing company affiliate whose permit is so revoked shall receive
deposits of public moneys of the United States, nor shall any
such national bank pay any further dividend to such holding
company affiliate upon any shares of such bank controlled by
such holding company affiliate.
t!Whenever the Federal Reserve Board shall have revoked any
voting permit as hereinbefore provided, the rights, privileges,




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and franchises of any or all national banks the stock of
which is controlled by such holding company affiliate
shall., in the discretion of the Federal Reserve Board, be
subject to forfeiture in accordance with section 2 of
the Federal Reserve Act, as amended.11 (Banking Act of
1833 approved June 16, 1933).

LEGISLATIVE HISTORY

The first movement in Congress with respect to bank hold­
ing companies was a resolution introduced by Senator King of
Utah (S. Res. 71) on May 24, 1929 which among other things had
for its purpose an investigation of 11chain b a n k i n g T h i s
resolution was referred to the Senate Committee on Banking and
Currency.
In his annual report to Congress for 1929, the Comptrol­
ler of the Currency recommended Federal Reserve District-wide
branch banking and also national legislation which would bring
bank holding companies under Federal supervision in cases where
they owned the majority of the stock of one or more national
banks •
In the same year, the Secretary of the Treasury in his
annual report to Congress indicated the need for branch bank­
ing and urged that Congress institute an investigation of bank
holding companies.
The President of the United States in his message
to Congress in December, 1929 also recommended an
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made special mention of the ownership of banks by holding
companies.
On January 6, 1930, Mr# Beedy introduced a bill
(H.R. 8085) authorizing the establishment by national banks
of Federal Reserve District-wide branches and providing for
supervision of bank holding companies by the Comptroller
of the Currency.
On January 9, 1930, Mr# Strong of Kansas introduced a
bill (H#R# 8367) the effect of which would prohibit the
operation of bark holding companies#

Upon the same day

Mr. Goldsborough of Maryland introduced a bill (H.R. 8363)
which would make it unlawful for holding companies to vote
the shares of national bank stock which they might own#
On February 3, 1930, the House of Representatives
adopted a resolution (H# Res. 141) authorizing its Committee
on Banking and Currency to investigate among other things
branch banking and bank holding companies.

Under this

resolution the House Committee on Banicing and Currency
after having gathered statistical and documentary information
with respect to the subject matter under consideration,
began on February 25, 1930 a series of public hearings which
lasted for fourteen weeks.

These hearings, which were among

the most extensive ever conducted by this Committee comprised
an exhaustive study of the operation of bank holding com­
panies.




Mr. A. P. Giannini founder of Bank of America,

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N# T. & S# A. and of Transamerica Corporation personally
appeared before the Committee as did the general counsel
for Transamerica Corporation#

In addition to their oral

statements and cross examination by members of the Committee
they laid before the Committee exhaustive documentary
information with respect to the organization and operation
of Transamerica Corporation#
On April 18, 1930, the Senate Committee on Banking
and Currency reported out the King Resolution above
mentioned as rewritten by Senator Glass#

The Senate on

May 5, 1930 adopted this resolution which authorized the
Senate Committee on Banking and Currency to proceed with
an investigation of the banking system, including branch
banking and bank holding companies#
Senator Glass on June 17, 1930 introduced a bill
(S# 4723) with the short title of "Banking Act of 1930"
and this bill became the basis for the Senate investigation*
Section three thereof prohibited holding companies from
voting national bank stock owned by them and there was
no provision for a voting permit#

It was an absolute

prohibition identical with that of the Goldsborough bill
above mentioned#
In the early part of December, 1930 the Senate
Committee began its investigation through the employment
of experts to gather pertinent data#



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of public hearings began before the Committee on January 19,
1931 and wore concluded on March 2 of that year. The
investigation however of the Committee was continuous
throughout 1931, 1932 and the first part of 1933 with
public hearings from time to time.

This was one of the

most exhaustive investigations ever undertaken by the Senate
Committee#

In addition, all data acquired by the House Com­

mittee on Banking and Currency were made available to the
Senate Committee# Moreover, experts through questionnaires
and private investigations secured all the information with
respect to the existing holding companies, including Transamerica Corporation, which the Committee desired#
These investigations and researches led the Senate Com­
mittee to modify the position expressed in the earlier
Strong, Goldsborough and Glass banking bills which, in effect,
prohibited the operation of bank holding companies and instead
it provided the language novt appearing in the Banking Act of
1933, the basis of which is the mechanism of a voting permit#
In the first drafts of the bills which eventually
took the form of the Banking Act of 1933 the responsibility
for the issuance of voting permits to bank holding com­
panies was imposed upon the Comptroller of the Currency#
However, in the final draft of the bill certain provisions




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were inserted which brought the state member banks of the
Federal Reserve System under closer Federal supervision by
requiring them to conform to many of the provisions of the
Banking Act of 1933 which by their terms related only to na­
tional banks.

In other words, after these amendments to the

National Bank Act were drawn making certain prohibitions as
to national banks, several covering clauses in another section
of the bill which amended Sec* 9 of the Federal Reserve Act,
made these prohibitions conditions of membership for state
member banks in the Federal Reserve System* Among these was
the provision for a voting permit in cases where a state
member bank might be owned by a holding company.

At this

time, apparently for the purpose of establishing a uniform
procedure, the bill was changed to provide that the Federal
Reserve Board should have the authority to issue voting per­
mits in place of the Comptroller of the Currency*

That is to

say, the Board would issue these permits both for national
and state member banks•
STATUTORY CONSTRUCTION
It is a presumption of law that Congress has before it
complete knowledge with respect to any subject matter
upon which it enacts legislation.

In the present instance

it is also an historical fact that both the House and
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investigation, research, expert financial and legal interpreta­
tions and assistance as well as by direct and cross-examination
in public of officials, complete information and data necessary
and adequate to an intelligent and final determination of the
question of Government supervision of bank holding companies.
The provisions under which the procedure of supervision m s
set up took the form of an amendment of section 5144 of the
Revised Statutes of the United States which embraced the pro*visions for voting the shares of national banks.

The amendment

provided that a bank holding company may not vote national bank
shares except upon the issuance to it by the Federal Reserve
Board of a voting permit upon application to the Board by the
holding company and that thereafter such holding company sub­
mit itself to the supervisory authority of the Comptroller of
the Currency through reports of condition and periodical exam­
inations .
Congress, however, did not leave to the Federal Reserve
Board the responsibility or authority to name all the
conditions upon such holding company as a condition
precedent to the issuance of the permit but provided in
the Act itself the basic conditions which every such
holding company must meet, which conditions are binding
alike upon the holding company and the Federal Reserve Board.
These conditions in their relationship to national bank shares,




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may be summarized as follows:




(1) The holding company must agree to submit to
examination by national bank examiners,
(2) must agree that the reports of such examiners
shall contain the information necessary to
disclose the relations between such holding
company and the controlled national bank and
the effect of such relations upon such bank,
(3 ) must agree that such examiners may examine
controlled non-member banks,
(4) must agree to the publication of individual
or consolidated statements of condition of
all barks controlled#
(5) must agree that its officers and employees
shall be subject to the same statutory
penalties provided in the case of national
banks for false entries as provided under
section 5209 of the Revised Statutes of the
United States,
(6) must agree that after the permit is granted
it will declare dividends only out of actual
net earnings,
(7) must agree that after the permit is granted to
submit from time to time to the Comptroller of
the Currency through such controlled national
bank reports of its own financial condition
simultaneously with the submission of the regu­
lar reports of condition of such bank,
(8) must agree that beginning on June 16, 1938 it
shall
(a) have a free liquid reserve other than
bank stocks in an amount not less than
12% of the aggregate par value of all
bank stocks controlled, which
percentage shall be increased by not
less than 2% per annum until such reserve
shall equal 25 per centum of the aggregate
par value of such bank stocks,




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(b) ■reinvest in ready marketable assets
other than bank stocks all net earnings
over and above 6% per annum on the book
value of its own shares outstanding
until the full amount of such reserve
shall be attained,
(c) .have divested itself of the control of
interet, in any corporation engaged
in the securities business.
You will observe that the foregoing conditions are
calculated, without any others, to effect an adequate super­
vision of and to obtain sufficient information with respect
to any holding company which applies for a permit to vote
national bank shares.
It is true that the Act gives the Federal Reserve
Board the discretionary power to grant or withhold the
permit as the public interest may require but this
language must be read as a part of the entire provision,
the evident intent of which is that the Board shall issue
the permit if all statutory conditions are met and the
additional special conditions which the Boa.rd is authorized
to impose are also fulfilled.

Congress itself has decided

the primary question that bank holding companies may under
Federal supervision continue to vote the shares of con­
trolled national banks.
The Federal Reserve Board in acting upon an
application for a voting permit is required in the first
place to see that all the statutory conditions specifically
enumerated are fully complied with and in the second place




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and in addition it is specifically required to consider:
(1) the financial condition of the applicant
holding company,
(2) the general character of the management
of the applicant holding company,
(3) the probable effect of the granting of
such permit upon the affairs of the
national bank, the shares of which are
to be voted by such applicant holding
company.
In order to discharge its responsibility the Federal
Reserve Board may demand and obtain any information or
data which may seem to it necessary to a proper determination
of the above questions.
THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD
The entire burden of responsibility with respect to
the issuance of the voting perenits was not intended to
be placed upon the Federal Reserve Board. A large share
of the responsibility was as we have seen deliberately
shouldered by Congress.

It seems to me clear also that

in cases where the application for the voting permit
involves the shares of a national bank, the governmental
responsibility with respect to the condition of such bank
rests upon the Comptroller of the Currency.

It appears

to have been the intent of Congress that the Board’s
principal responsibility in such a case is to be limited
to its consideration of the financial condition of the
applicant holding company and the general character

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of its management. It seems to me that the determination
of the question of the probable effect of the granting of
the permit upon the affairs of such a national bank is a
conclusion to be drawn by the Board from its consideration
of the financial condition and the general character of the
management of the applicant holding company.
It is to be assumed that the Board will in every such
case make a detailed study of the condition of any national
bank for the voting of whose stock an application is made
by a holding company.

I feel sure however that it was not

the intent of Congress that the Federal Reserve Board should
in such a case proceed de novo on its own responsibility
but should avail itself of the records of the Comptroller
of the Currency with respect to such bank and admit them
as proper and sufficient evidence of its condition.
In my opinion Congress did not, furthermore, intend to
delegate to the Federal Reserve Board, in making the pro­
visions for the voting permit, (section 5144, Revised
Statutes as amended) the authority to impose operating
conditions upon national banks as conditions precedent to
its issuance of a voting permit to an applicant holding
company which owns the majority of the stock of such national
bank, nor to assume supervisory powers over such bank after
such a permit has been granted.

My reason for saying this

is that this procedure would involve a transfer of juris­
diction from the Comptroller of the Currency to the Federal
Reserve Board which would, in effect, repeal the basic pro-




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visions of the National Bank Act. The indirect language of
the Act does not support any such radical interpretation.
Specific language would he required to repeal the long estab­
lished authority of the Comptroller of the Currency.

The

pertinent language of the Banking Act of 1933 reads thus:
"In acting upon such application, the Board shall consider the
financial condition of the applicant, the general character
of its management, and the probable effect of the granting
of such permit upon the affairs of such bank."

It seems to

me that this language can not by any possible statutory
construction be stretched to the point where the Comptroller
of the Currency would be relieved of the great powers
specifically vested in him by law for the supervision of
all national banks.
It may be appropriate to indicate some of the statutory
powers which the Comptroller of the Currency has over all
national banks:




(a)

He is solely responsible for the issuance
of their charters,

*

(b)

he is responsible for the enforcement of all
the provisions of the national banking laws
■under which such banks operate,

(c)

he may in his own name sue any national bank
for the forfeiture of its charter for violation
of any provision of the national banicing laws,

(d)

he is responsible for the periodical exam­
ination of the national banks,

(e)

he is responsible for making and enforcing operat­
ing conditions for keeping national banks within
the law and within sound banking practices,

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(f)

the Comptroller of the Currency has the
responsibility for making the final de­
cision in the determination of losses in
national hanks and from his decision there
is no appeal.

(g)

when he deems it necessary in order to
conserve the assets of a national bank
he may appoint a conservator to take
charge of such bank under M s direction,

(h)

upon him rests the statutory responsibility
for the approval of the reorganization of
national banking associations,

(i)

when in his opinion there is mismanagement
of a national bank he may institute pro­
ceedings, after due warning, for the re­
moval of such management,
_

(«5)

"upon him is the responsibility of the ap­
proval of the consolidation of national
banks,

(k)

the approval of the establishment of
branches by national banks must be made
by M m ,

(l)

rules and regulations covering many import­
ant aspects of the banking business are
drafted, promulgated and enforced by M m ,

(m)

by virtue of his office he is a member of
the Federal Reserve 3oard and the Federal
Deposit Insurance Corporation, but so far as
the national banks are concerned there is no
doubt that Congress has from the inaugura­
tion of the national banking system intended
that lie alone must bear the undivided respon­
sibility for their public supervision.

I might here, parenthetically, call your attention to
two statements of documentary record of Senator Glass him­
self than whom there is no more ardent champion of the
integrity of the powers of the Federal Reserve Board.




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said in 1923, during a hearing of the Joint Committee of
the House and Senate for inquiry into the Federal Reserve
System, that the Comptroller of the Currency was the czar
of the national hanks.

And in the Senate, during the

dehate on the Banking Act of 1933 of'which he was the
sponsor, he said:
nThe Comptroller of the Currency is not a minor
official of the Treasury Department. He holds
an independent office for a longer time than the
Secretary of the Treasury himself. He makes his
report, not to the Secretary of the Treasury, hut
directly to the Congress of the United States.”
(Congressional Record, January 23, 1933).
In view, therefore, of the established position of
the Comptroller of the Currency as the governmental
agency for the supervision of national hanks, it seems
clear to me that in order to effect the transfer to the
Federal Reserve Board of the visitorial powers of the
Comptroller of the Currency over the national hanks
which may he affiliated with holding companies a mandate
from Congress in clear and unmistakable terms would he
required.

Before leaving this phase of the matter

let us take a hypothetical case in which the Federal
Reserve Board undertakes to exercise general visitorial
powers over a national hank which is affiliated with a
holding company which has applied for a voting permit
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such a case does not relinquish M s visitorial powers
over such a national hank.

Suppose that the Board is

satisfied with the financial condition of such holding
company and satisfied also with the general character
of its managemsat.

Suppose that this national hank

has met all the requirements imposed hy the Comptroller
of the Currency, including the charge-off of all losses
determined hy the Comptroller, and is conducting its
business under operating policies w M c h the Comptroller
of the Currency has either approved or to w M c h he has
made no objection.

Suppose under these circumstances

that the Board was not satisfied with the condition of
such national bank and proceeded to demand that it
eliminate or charge-off certain assets —

assets w M c h

the Comptroller of the Currency has knowingly permitted
the bank to carry.

Would not such a situation cause

endless confusion to such a national bank?

And would

it not be intolerable from every standpoint for two
federal agenciesto exercise independently of each
other general visitorial powers over a national bank
to the same end, namely, to protect the public interest?
I have discussed as a purely theoretical proposition,
the question of transfer of such powers to the Federal
Reserve Board principally for the purpose of clarifying
to you the situation.

I have no idea that the Board

entertains any such view nor am I aware that the question
has ever arisen.



I think that Congress in the Banking

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Act of 1953 as well as in many other of its legislative
acts involving the banking laws, assumed and intended that,
there would be at all times the closest cooperation between
the Comptroller of the Currency and the Federal Reserve
Board with respect to their related responsibilities.
Both of them are agencies of the Government of the
United States.

The Comptroller of the Currency is an

officer of the United States and each member of the Federal
Fteserve Board is an officer of the United States, all of
them having been appointed by the President with the
advice and consent of the Senate. Both agencies have
important functions to perform with respect to our banking
system.

The Board and the Comptroller of the Currency

each speak for the United States. Under these conditions
it is inconceivable under any circumstances that the
Board would attempt to impose operating conditions upon
a national bank other and different from those imposed by
the Comptroller of the Currency.
I think you will see how clearly Congress intended
a cooperation between the Comptroller of the Currency
and the Federal Reserve Board by a mere reference to
various provisions in the national banking laws.

The

office of the Comptroller of the Currency was established
in .1864 and therefore antedates the establishment of the
Federal Reserve System by about forty-nine years. At',
the time of the creation of the Federal Reserve System
consideration was given by Congress to the question of






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the abolishment of the office of the Comptroller of the
Currency in connection with the question of unification
of the Federal supervision of banks.

Congress however

decided, instead of abolishing the office of the Comptroller
of the Currency, to make the Comptroller a member, by virtue
of his office, of the Federal Reserve Board.

This was

with the thought that the extensive end vital experience
of the bureau of the Comptroller of the Currency and all
of its years of precedents and data with respect to
national bank operations would be available through the
Comptroller to the Board, at all times for such purposes
as the work of the Board might require.
In the course of its operations the Federal Reserve
Board and the Federal Reserve Banks have occasion from
time to time to seek information with respect to one or
another of the national banks.

It has been the practice

of the Board not to make its own examinations but to
rely for such information upon those made by the
Comptroller of the Currency.
In the Banking Act of 1935 national banks are
required to transmit reports of condition to the Comptroller
of the Currency of any holding company with which they
may be affiliated.

The act requires that such a report

of the holding company to the Comptroller shall contain
such information as in the judgment of the Comptroller

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shall be necessary to disclose fully the relations between
such holding company and the national bank in question so
as to enable the Comptroller to inform himself as to the
effect of such relations upon the affairs of such bank,
(section 27). Also in provision for the issuance of the
voting permit every such holding company is required to
agree to submit to examination by the national bank
examiners at the same time that any national bank which it
may control is examined and such examination is required
fully to disclose the relations between such banks and
such holding company and the effect of such relations
upon the affairs of such national banks.

It is clear

therefore that Congress intended that the Comptroller of
the Currency should have-,considerable responsibility
in obtaining the information with respect to holding
companies upon the applications of which for voting permits
the Federal Reserve Board must act.
Congress has therefore not set up two independent
governmental agencies - the Federal Reserve Board and
the Comptroller of the Currency - but has blended their
operations upon the assumption that there could be no
conflict of jiirisdiction with respect to the Federal
supervision of national banks.
I am not fully advised as to the exact procedure which
the Federal Reserve Board will follow in determining the




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question of a voting permit since the question is new.
However, I feel safe in predicting that when it comes
to the question of the condition of a national bank
which may be affiliated with a holding company the agencies
of the Board and those of the Comptroller of the Currency
will come into consultation and the responsibility of
the Comptroller for making the requirements concerning
the condition of such national bank will be recognized.

I

say this because I believe that under this procedure
the responsibility both of the Board and of the Comptroller
of the Currency in this matter will be fully discharged.




Yours very truly,

Charles W. Collins