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FEDERAL RESERvE BANK OF BOSTON
30 Pearl St. ,
Aug11st

10, 1922.

Federal Reserve Board,
Washington, D. C•
Gentlemen-:
I beg to acknowledge recaipt of. the Federal Reserve :Board's
lettar (X-3491.1.) dated August 2, 1922, on the subject of "Special Rates
on Commodity Paper".
Althangh I have discussed ~his matter with our officers, I
have delB¥ed replying to the letter until I could discuss it with OUI'
Executive Comittee and with our Board of Directors, v.bo have met tod.ay.
Our Executive Commdttee today passed the following vote:
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'l'ha.t in the opinion of this Committee there is no demand
in this district for a special rate on commodity paper" •

.Although onr member banks were duly notified of the appointment
of these rates on commodity paper, we had no notes· presented to this bank:
during the time that the rates were in effect which complied with the
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terms of commodity paper and would. carry preferential rate and we have ·
never had ~ inquiry since as far as we can remember for such a demand.
We have • therefore, come to the conclusion that there is no demand for
~ such rate or any silch kind of a. note in this district.
As a matter
of fact' from the defin1 tion of conmodi ty paper all of the transactions .
\\hich would· require comrr.odi ty paper can easily be carried out just as
well under a bill of exchange, and anybody wishing to obtain the lowest
rates for that kind of a loan would naturally pu.t it under a bill of ·
exchange which we would buy at 3 1/S% discount to 3 31'?1'/o discount for
all matur1 ties up to 90 days, and at 45b for ma.turi ties between 91 and
180 d~ys.
~e question of a. special commodity rate in this district,
therefore, has nothing but an academic interest to Us.
Very truly yours,
(Signed) Frederic H. Curtiss
Federal Reserve Agent.
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FEDERAL RESERVE BANK

OF NEW YORK.

August 10, 1922.
Dear Governor Platt:
I have raceived the Board's letter of A~t 2, X-3494, enclosing tentative draft of letter which it is proposed to send to all
Federal Reserve Banks in case the Federal Reserve Board should decide
to autho~ize special rates on commodity paper. ·
It appears from examination of the proposed definition that
commodity paper to be entitled to a special rate would have two main
characteristics: first, it would necessarily be accompanied and secured
by shipping documents, warehouse, terminal or other similar receipts
covering readily marketable non-perishable staples; and second, it
would have to be paper on which the rate of interest of discount charged
the borrower by the member bank does not exceed 6% per annum •
.The question for consideration now is whether there is any
need or justification for the establishment of a preferential rate on
eligible notes, drafts, bills of exchan~, or trade acceptances which
possess these two characteristics.
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CLASS OF SECURITY NOT RECOGNIZED IN THE LAW. While the proposed regulation would not deviate from the principles set forth in the
law as to the requirements of eligibility, and while the notes, drafts,
bills or acceptances. as the case may be, would of themselves have to be
eligible in accordance with those principles even under the proposed
regu.lation, nevertheless to give a preferential rate for eligible paper
merely because it is secured by a certain kind of collate•f1 superimposes
upon the law a principle which never could have been contemJ?la.ted and
Which, indeed, is contrary to the spirit of the Act itself, for it
recognizes in a material way, and prefers in a material way, ~ certain
class of securitz Which in fact h~s no substantial relation either to
the eligibility of the paper or to its desirability as an investment.
NOT FEASIBLE TO VARY DISCOUNT RATES IN PROPORTION TO CREDIT
RISK INVOLVED.
Of course the credit risk to a Reserve :Sank is fixed
in part by the character of the paper discounted, and in part by the
· collateral, if any, by which it is secured.
:Bu:~ those factors might
well be left out of consideration in the determination of the rediscount
rate, as distinguished f~om an open market rate, since in all cases of
rediscount the accommodation is secured by the indorsement of the
borrowing member bank, and it would be futile, if not impossible, to
attempt to vary the discount rate in accordance with the risk invol~ed,
aside from the indorsement of the borrowing bank.
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the principle that the rediscount rate should be lower merely because
the credit of the maker is better or the security of the collateral is
stronger_than the credit or security involved in other discounts, we
would be confronted with a refinement of r~tes that would be impossible
of administration.
PBEFEBENTIAL RATES ON ACCEPTANCES ABOLISHED.
There is far
more reason that a preferential rate should be given to bankers
acceptances, or even to trade acceptances, than there is to paper
secured by warehouse receipts if the only question involved is one
of goodness of the paper.
In the early days of the System it was
thought wise to encourage and develop the use of bankers acceptances ,
an entirely new kind of credit instrument in this country, by a preferential rate, but as soon as an opportunity offered itself in a broad
open market for th~1.t kind of paper the preferential rate was abandoned
and one rate was established for "money", regardless of the character
of the obligation upen which it wa& procured.
Only a few months ago the Federal Advisory Council and the
Conference of Governors unanimously opposed the reestablishment of a
preferential rate for trade acceptances when that question wa.s presented. for consideration.
The same reasons prompting that opposition
a.re applicable to the present case.
A return to the preferential
or differential rate vuo'Uld, in our opinion, be a most unfortunate step
backwards.
MO!IVE OF A PREFERENTIAL RATE .AND ITS EFFECT. The only
apparent reason for the establishment of a preferential rate on socalled commodity paper at this time would be a desire to induce member
banks to borrow on this kind of paper and thus indirectly to force
more money into credits of this kind.
Bu.t even if it be that that
purpose would be accomplished, it would be unwise as a. matter of principle,
Since it would only tend to create an artificial demand for one particular
kind of credit arbitrarily ~elected by the Federal Reserve Board.
It
:might well lead to pleas for other special rates on elilible paper When
secured in other particular ways.
CHARACTER OF PAPER ITSELF HAS NO DIRECT RELATION TO PURPOSE OF
REDISCOUNT, - THAT IS, TO BUILD UP RESERVES. There is another practical
reason that makes the proposed action unwise. When a member bank borrows
from a Federal Reserve Bank it is for the pllrpose of restoring its
general credit reservoir.
It is because the aggregate of its d~'s
operations has impaired its reserve balance and because the law requires
that that balance be made good before. further loans lila¥ be made. The
money or credit obtained by the mem t:er bank from the Federal Reserve
Bank b~ virtue of the discount of its paper does not of itself go
~directly to the original maker of the note discounted, but rather goes
into the credit pool of the member bank for dissipation in the usual
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~ is, therefore, always for one purpose, - the restoring of its
reserve balance which has become irqpaired because of _the net result
·of all of 1 ts transactions during the day.
That being the purpose;
the rate charged the member bank should not be varied merely because
the vehicle by whiCh it obtains its funds differs slightly in the form
of its security from any other paper qy which it may accomplish the
same purpose, - that is the restoring of its reserVe balance.

COWJI!ODITI PA.fEI! SERVES NO MOBE DESIRAJY PURPOSE THAN OTHER

ELIGIBLE P.AJ?D. Fr()lll a credit standpoint conmodi ty paper woUld certainly
be no better than other eligible paper secured by such collateral a.s
Government bonds, for instance. and from the point of view of commerce,
industry and agriculture the so-co.lled commodity paper would ho.Ye performed no greater service than the unsecured note of the farmer in the
planting season or any other kind of paper the proceeds of whiCh were
used for a comnercial, industrial or agricultural purpose.
In fact,
if there is ~ difference at all, it would be against the commodity
paper, which, because of its very nature, might induce withholding
goods from consumption rather tbzn moving them in the process of distribution.
It would be one step toward, and an encouragement of, the socalled "Edison plan"- chef!:p money for loans secured by agricultural
col'IIIlOdities, instead of l!:!!. money a.s is contemplated by that plan.
T.he difference is only one of degree.

NOT FEASIBLE TO YJ.RY DISCOUNT RATES ON SOLE :BASIS OF RATE
CHARGED ON A PAR'l'ICUMR·PIECE OF PAm BY mE MEMBp BANK• So far _as
tne second factor in the proposed commodity paper rate is concerned,
there is, of course* no more rep,son to prefer cotmlOdity paper merely
because the member bo.nk has not Charged the original borrower in excess
of 6%, than there 1s to prefer ~ othar class of paper upon which the
borrower may have obtained funds from the member bank at that rate or
less.
It is, of course, obvious that, as a matter of principle, independently of the questions of law involved, it would be i11possible
to establish discount rates in this co~try by ~ such direct relation
to rates of interest ~barged by /banks upon customers• paper~ To do so
on one particular kind of customerst paper would seem to be even less
justified as a. matter of principle. While Federal Reserve Bank rates
might properly be related in a general wa¥ to market rates for money in
the district in whiCh the batik is located, it is a decidedly different
matter to charge a. member bank a. special rate on a particular note of a.
customer of the member bank merely on the basis of ·~e amount of interest
paid by that customr on that particular note.
To follow su_ch a
principle. logically, and to apply it in all cases, a.s would be the
logical sequence, would result in a. confused rate policy that would
laCk all of .the necessary elements of control.and purpose.
SER10US LEGAL CONSIDERATIONS INVOLVED. In conclusion. while
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right under the terms of Section 13 to make a "class" of paper with a special
·rate out of paper which differs from other eligible paper not in the use
of its proceeds but solely in the degree of its securit~, it bas always
been our understanding that except in the case of Government obligations,
specially dealt with in the law, the character of the collateral to
eligible paper could not be considered alone as a ground for defining
a "c:;lass" of paper. Otherwise it would be perfectly proper legally for
the Board to define ~ eligible paper secured by railraod bands as one
class of paper, entitled to one rate, and other eligible paper, the proceeds Of Which had been used for precisely the same purpose, secured in
another way, as a different class, entitled to another rate. fo do this
would, in our opinion, ignore every fundamental principle of the Federal
Reserve Act, which, except in the case of obligations secured by Governmant securities, looks not to the collateral to discounts bu.t to the purpose to which the proceeds have been applied by the original borrower.

On questions of principle, questions of polior and questions
of practical operation, we are unanimOU.sly opposed to the establishment
of a preferential rate to the member b~ solely upon the ground of the
particular kind of collateral by which the paper discounted i's secured,
or upon the basis of the rate charged a particular borrower on that
particular paper.
This letter and. its conclusions has the Unanimous approval of
our executive comni ttee, for whose opinions the Boa.i"d-~asked in its letter
of August 2.
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Very truly yours,
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Governor.
Honorable Edmund Platt,
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FEDERAL RESERVE :BANK OF PHILADELPHIA

August 9th, 1922.

My dear Governor Harding:

Your letter of the 2nd instant, in reference to the
advisability of re-establishing special rates on commodity paper,
was ~resented at a meting of oUr- Executive Committee this morning,; and the subject was fully discussed.
The officers and Commi ttee are unanitnously of opinion that there are no interests in
this District Which would be served by the establishment of suCh
a ro.te; and that the only possible effect of its establishment
would be an effort to convert other paper into what might be represented as "oonmodity paper".
We can imagine that in some other
Districts sane useful purpose mi"ght be served by the establishment
of this specbl. rate, but. if it were to be authorized by the :Board
i t would not be established by this :Bank, nor would it be generally
availed of even if it were esto.blished.
I am,
Very truly yours,
(Signed) Geo.

w.

Governor.

Hon.

w.

P. G. Harding, Governor,
Reserve :Soard,
Washington, D. C·

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Bon·. Edmmd Platt, Vice Governor,
Federal Reserve Board,
Washington, D.

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Dea.r Sir:

With further reference to the Board's letter X-3494,
da.tad August 2, 1922, subjec~- Special Rates on Comnodity Paper, I wish to actvise that the Board's letter, together
with the reply of this bank datad August 4, 1922, was read to
our Board of Director~ yeste~, a.nd. by a unanimous vote they
approved the reply, stating the present position of the Board.
with respect to fixing 1 ts comnodity rate, and wished me to
advise you t\,l.~ther that they are opposed to legi t:lmatizing a
spread of 2-l/2~ be.tween the rea.iscount rate of the Federal
Reserve Bank and the ·rate cbo.rged by member banks to their
customers.

Very truly

yo~s

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(Signed) D. C. Wills,
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August 4, 1922.

Bon.

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P .. G•. lia.rd.ing, GOvernor,

Fede~al

Reserve Board,
Washington, D. c.

Dear Sir:
YOlli' letter X-3~4, dated August 2, 1922, in respect
to the subject of special rates on ccmnodity paper, has been
received.
The Federal Raserve :Board is aware that this bank has
never est~blished a preferential rate on commodity paper, nor'has
it asked permission from the Federol Reserve :Board to do so.·
Our :Board discussed the matter thorou.gbl.y when these
rates were being est~blished by a few of the other Federal Reserve Banks,
and we:re '\Ulanimous in ~ir opinion against their establisb.Jmntt lst:
because the volume of that kind of paper in this district is inconsequential , and 2nd: because 1 t W:l.S regarded as unsound to quote a
rate that might be regarded as subsidizing a. singl.e industry.
Our directors also regarded it as unwise to set a precedent
tbat might be construed as dictating to bllllks what rates they should
charge their borrowers.

Your letter. Will be brought to the attention of our Board
of Directors at its next meeting.
Very truly yours,

(Signed) D. C. Wills
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FEDERAL RESERVE BANK
OF RICBMOND.

August 9, 1922.
SUBJECT:

Specia,l Rates on Conmodity Pa.Jaer.

Edmund Platt , Esq. , Vice Governor 1
Federal Reserve :Board,
Washington, D. C.
Dear Sir:
Governor Harding's lattar of .August 2nd, X-3494, on
the above subject, with confidantinl tentative draft of letter
whic~: the Board is considering sending out on this subject, was
presented to our Board of Director~ at their meeting tod~, together with capy of my reply of August 3rd.
After discussion and consideration of the matter, our
Board passed the following rasolution:




"RESOLVED, !~hat we a.rd opposed to a:n:y special
conmodity rate."
I am fozwarding this for the information of tlle Board.
Very truly yours,

(Signed) Caldwell Hardy
Chairman of the :Board.

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FEDERAL :RESERVE BANK
OF 'RICHMOND.

August 3, 1922.
SUBJECT:

§pecial Rates on Commodity Paper

Bon. w. P. G. Harding, Governor,
Federal Reserve Board,
Washington, D. c.
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dear Governor:

Your favor of the 2nd, X-3494, to hand on the above subject.
The question was discussed confidentially at our officers conference
this morning, Governor Seay being absent on his usual annual holiday.
When we had a special commodity rate before we found that
South Carolina members preferred to pay our full commercial rate,
because they made ~re money by doing this and charging their borroNers
B%· At the same time, our North carolina members availed of our
special rate more often.
There were very few comrrDdity loans from
the balance of the district.
We are inclined to think that the granting of a special rate, on condition that our member is to charge not
more than a given rate, is somewhat questionable in principle, although
we realize that such a policy is doubtless necessary in order to protect
the original borrower.
We f&al sure that little, if any, of the
benefit. of any special rate we might make is passed to the original
borrower.
Conditions are quiet in our district, irritating discussions
are much less frequent, and we feel that any new changes, the results
of which would be at best of minimum advantage ~o original borrowers,
would not be desirable.
We think a special corrJittodity rate would naturally encourage
speculative holding and unneces~arily delay orderly marketing. We have
had some friction in handling regular loans against cotton three or
four years old, which ought to have been sold long ago, and if a new
commodity rate is to be established we think we should have a certificate
that the commodity 'Oroduced is not more than 12 months old. On the ·JVbole
we are not impressedwith the desirability of a special commodity rate at
the present time.
Yours very truly,
(Signed) Caldwell Hardy
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August 14, 1922•

SUBJECT:

Commodity rate; letter X-3494.

Dear M':r. Platt:
I am in receipt of your letter of August
11th on the above subject, answering Ttl¥ letter of the

7th·
In reply beg to sar that I submdtted to
our Board of Directors on Frida¥, A.ugus t 11th, capy of
th~ Board's letter X-3494, and xqy reply of the 7tb· Also
Governor Wellborn, 1n making his report to our Board concurred in Ttl¥ views, as expressed in his report and my letter of the 7th•
Our Directors thereuppn voted that they were
in thorough accord with the views expressed bt the Chairman ·
and the Governor, 1. a·. , they did mt believe tba.t a conmodity rate would be of full value to the producers of comnodities for the reasons stated in said comnunications·.
Very truly yours,
(Signed)

JOS. A. MCCORD.
Chainmn·

Hon.

Edmund Platt,
Vice Governor, Federal Reserve Board,
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BANK

ATLANTA

August

7, 1922..

Special Rates on Comn:odi ty Paper·.

Dear Governor Harding:

Your letter X-3491+, August 2, 1922.
In reply beg to Sa¥ that I am doubtfUl as to ~ether the
co~dity rate would be of any special benefit to the producers of
commodities that coild be stored in warehouses in this district. You
no doubt know that the farmers in the interior deal with the smaller
banks. We haven1t the large plantations or ranges in this district
that they have in some of the western states·. The large plantation
idea has been gradually eliminated in this district·.
The landlords owning vast tracts of land have tenants on
·their property, and these tenants largely deal with the smaller banks
in the interior towns, and the smaller banks have a. flat rate of s5b,
per aml1l1ll, and in some instances charge more than that.
When we had our commodity rates in 1915 only a. few banks
availed themselves of the rate. They preferred to charge s% and pay
us our regular corml1arcial and a.gricul tural discount rate, rather than
··to take the lower rate of 3% When they would be COJll)elled to loan to
their customers at
per annum. Some few banks in the district availed themsel'lles of the privilege at that time. Others endeavored to
handle it purely for land owners, me lived in the smaller towns and
who hoped to speculate in cotton, as that is the principal product; but
When we advised them tnat cotton could not be held for speculative purposes under the commodity rate, they would then relieve it from that
rate and put it on another basis·.
If we could get all the banks to make a preferential rate
to the planter, I would be heartUy in favor of the eomnodi ty rate, but
the larger city banks Charge practically only 6 or 7~ interest, and cotton that is shipped in from country towns to large cities like Atlanta,
Savanruah, Montgomery, Mobile, New Orleans, and Jackson, Miss., the loans
are usually made by the larger city banks at a 6% rate where the cotton
is pled3ed as co~lateral thereto.
The subject of the comnodity rate is of so vital importance
that I shall read your letter to our :Soard. of Directors on Friday next,
and ask their opinion 'Whether a commodity rate would be appreciated and
used, and whether our member banks would take advantage of the law rate
provided they would have to loan to their customers at not over 6% including all comnissions. I shall endeavor to obtain a coneensus of opinion from our Directors on Friday and will then write you relative thereto.

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Very truly yours,
(Signed)
Hon. w. P. G. Barding,
Governor, Federal Reserve :Board,
Washington, D. C.



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Chairman.

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w. P .. G. Harding,
Governor,
Federal Reserve Board,
Washington, D. c..
Mr.

Dear SiJ!';
Replying to your circular letter X-3494 of August
2, 1922, I wish to advise that our Executive Committee has considered the matter of establishing a special rate of 3t% on
commodity paper, on which the rate of interest or disco-unt including commission- charged the borrower does not exceed
6% per a.nnurri.
Our Committee is not inclined to favor this special
rate, as, in our earnest opinion, member ba.Dks generally would
not be disposed to avail themselves of it. OUr reasons for
reaChing this conclusion are:
In the larger cities of our District, the prevailing
rate is now 6%. T.he banks in the smaller communities have an
established rate of S% which, it is believed, they would not
care to abrogate. For them to give a preferential rate on co~
modities would ass~~edly create confusion among their customers.
In the smaller batiks, it is really necessary to charge 8~ in order to make a reasonable profit; and we believe that they would
prefer a continuance of the present rate of 4~% on our part,
thus permitting them to maintain their charge of S7L This
would yield them a greater profit on their borrowin~ than they
would receive if they discounted paper with us at 3t%, but were
themselves restricted to a charge of 6%. This being the attitude of the member banks, the borrowers would derive very little
benefit from our establishing the preferential rate.
Vary truly yours,
(Signed)

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Sub.iect:
Special Rates on
Commoditi Paper.
Dear Governor Harding!
Answering your letter of August second (~3494)
I will state that I laid your letter before our Executive
Commdttee at its regular session yesterday. I regret
that only a bare quorwn of the corrmi ttee were presant and
that so many of the members of our board are, at the moment,
beyond reach. One is in Europe; another is up in the
wilds of Canada; and so on.
The Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago never established a special rate on commodity paper, if my remembrance is
correct. When a number of the other Federal Reserve Banks
established such special rates a numbBr of years agQ the
sentiment of our board was always against it. At that
time, if I remember rightly, none of the members of our
board favored it. While the corrplexion of our board has
changed somewhat since that time a n:ajority of the old members are still serving, and I have no reasons to believe
that any of them have changed their minds in regard to this
matter.
!lhe sentiment of our Executive Committee yesterday
was, that on the basis of information thus far before us,
t:Oe Chicago bank would not care to establish such special
rates on comnodity paper, and that probably no considerable
number of our member banks would avail themselves of it.
Very truly yours,
(Signed)

W• .A. HEATH
Chairman.

Mr. W. P. G. Harding, Governor,

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FEDERAL RESERVE BANK

OF
ST. LOUIS.
August 7, 1922.
Dear Governor:
In the absence of Mr. lVIartin I am replying to your
letter X-3494, bearing date of the 2nd, after having discussed
the subject thereof with other officers of this bank, but cannot
at this time convey the opinion of our Executive Committee relative thereto because, due to vacations, the Committee is not
meeting regularly.

The establishment of a S?ecial rate on commodity
paper would be of benefit to a certain class of borrowers, provided the member batiks reduced their interest rate to such borrowers to 6%.
In this district, with the exception of one state
and the larger centers in the others, the austomary interest
rate is above 6%. For this reason it is unlikely that, if a
special rate on comrr.odity paper is established, aey benefit w·ill
accrue therefrom to the borrovvers, although member banks would
no doubt take advantage thereof on any paper held by them or acquired on which the rate charged was 6% or less.
In other words, it is not likely that the establishnsnt of such a rate would result in any chan@6 in the rates
of the member banks to their customers, although the member
banks would benefit whenever they happened to hold and rediscount any paper which would come within the definition of commodity paper and on Which the rate of interest charged was within the 1 imit •
In the rural communities of this district, with the
exception of the cotton and tobacco sections, little paper is
found that would come within the Board's definition of commodity
paper. It therefore follows that the rate would be of advantage
primarily to the member ban}:s financing the grower or buyer of
cotton and tobacco and the middle man handling other commodities
in this district.
Generally speaking, we are not in favor of special
rates on certain classes of paper. As we see it, the principal,
if not the sole advantage in the establishment of suCh a rate
would be its possible psychological effect in that it would indicate that the commodities of the farmer coulQ be marketed with
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not be the case •
Since in our juci.gment the establishment of such a
rate would,general.ly speaking, benefit only certain member
banks and then only in a limited way, it is doubtful whether our
Board would feel disposed to establish a special rate on the
class of paper in question should the Federal Reserve Board
permit same.
Yours very truly,
(Signed) D. C. Biggs.
Governor.

Honorable w. P. G. Harding,
Governor, Federal Reserve Board,
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:F1£DERAL RESERVE BANK
OF MUT.NEAPOLIS

August 17, 1922.

Mr. Edmund Platt, Vice Governor,
Federal Reserve Board,
Tiashington, D. c.
Dear Governor Platt:
The Boardls letter of J.ugu.st 2, (X-3494) was received
when I was in Northern Michigan. Commodity rates and others were
discussed by cmr Directors at their meeting Monday, and I enclose
herewith exce~ts from our minute book which will be self-explanatory of the views of our Directors,
You will note in the e:::cerpts of the minutes that our
Directors believe that if a 4~ rate was established on commodity
paper, a similar rate should be established on notes secured by
U. S. Government bonds.
The Board also makes inquiry whether, in our opinion,
our member banks generally will be inclined to avail themselves
of the commodity rate.
It is our opinion that the banks in the
larger centers will no doubt take advantage of it, but we doubt
very much whether the banks in the smaller communities will attempt
to use it.
Banks in the smaller centers generally secure much
better than a six per cent rate from their customers, and we do not
believe that such small banks would make a 6% rate to their customers
on commodity paper even though the same could be rediscounted with
us one half or one per cent less.
Yours very truly,
(Signed) R. A. Young
Governor.




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Federal Reserve Bank
of Minneapoli~.
Copy of excerpts from minute book.

Chairman Rich brought up for discussion the existing discount
rates of this bank, which were thoroughly considered. He stated that
while the Federal Reserve Board has offered no suggestion, some of its
members have the i~ression that the spread between the rates of this
bank and those of the other Federal Reserve Banks is greater than it
should be, Minneapolis and Kansas City being the only institutions'
still maintaining the 5 per cent rediscount rate.
The subject was
thoroughly discussed and the Chairman asked for the individual opinions
of the members of the Board, following which Director Bigelow, .supported by Director Bassett, moved that the rediscount rate of this bank
on all paper and all maturities with the exception of bankers acceptances, should l:e reduced to 4~ per cent, subject to the approval of ·
the Federal Reserve Board.
The resolution was adopted, Director
Hixon voting no.
Governor Xoung then presented the Board's general letter

X-3494 of the 2nd inst., upon the revival of ·special rates on commodity
paper.
After thorough discussion, Director Hixon, supported by
Director Bigelow, moved that the Executive Committee be authorized
to establish a commodity rate at not less than 4 per cent, if the
action of other Federal Reserv~ Banks and conditions in this district
should, in their judgment, warrant such action.
After a discussion as to the advisability of establishing
special rates on notes secured by Government bonds, Director Bassett.
supported by Director McDowell, moved that the Execntive Committee
be authorized to establish a special rate on PaPer secured by
Government securities, the rate to be the same rate agra~d on for
commodity paper should a commodity rate be established, and l ! sucn
special rates are established by other reserve banks on the same
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COPY

Telegram from
Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis
.August 17, 1922

Hoxton,
Washington
Letter

X-3494 discussed at our Directors• meeting Monday.

Our Directors approve of establishment of commodity rate and

have authorized executive committee to establish such rate
at not less than four per cent i f action of other Federal
Reserve Banks and conditions in this district should in their
judgment warrant such acti.on.




Letter follows giving details.

(Signed) Young.

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FEDERAL RESERVE BANK

OF
KANSAS CITY.
.August 10, 1922.

Federal Reserve
Washington, D. C.
Gentlemen:
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Rego.~'t..4.Lng tha Board's letter (X-3494) on special rates
for commodity paper, our board requests me to say that it hasitates to
request a speci~l rate on this class of paper an~ is of the opinion
that member bar¥rn generally would not be inclined to avail themselves
of it.
At this time there is ample credit available for the purpose of carryi~g the commodities of this District, pending the orderly marketing th:;reof and at rate~ that are entiraly satisfactory.




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Yours \•ery truly,
(Signed)'.A.sa E. Ramsay
Chairrr.a.n of the Board.

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R E S E R V E

DALLAS

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BANK

X-3513
August 7, 1922.

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Mr. W. P. G. Barding, Governor,

Federa 1 Reserve Board,
Washington, D. C.
Dear Governor Barding:
Referring to your X-3494, on the subject, "Special Rates on
Commodity Paper, 11 I am writing to sa:y that in advance of our meeting thls
morning I sounded out some of our leading bankers on the subject of the
effect of putting in these comnodity rates, to what extent, in their opinion,
they would be availed of, and what effect the adoption of such rates would
have on the general financial situation.
With only one exception the b~kers were inclined to think that the
effect of the adoption of the 3~% co:nmodi ty rate would be good. One of the
bankers, Mr. Pondrom, thought a better plan would be to reduce our discount
rates to 4% on all classes of paper. I found pretty ret;l.dy interest, among
all the bankers present at the meeting, in this view, and some of our ownn
directors were inc lined to the same view. However, Governor McKinney and
nwself both took a pretty firm position that the financial conditions and the
current interest rates in this district would not justify cmy further reduction
of our discount rate, n.nd further we felt sure the Board would not approve
the reduction , calling their attention to your telegram inquiring whether
our Board had consHered the effect when fixing rate of ~%, and the small
earning percentage on our assets.
The matter was discussed at length by our Board and they unanimously
agreed and asked that the ~% r:1te be :ulopt-"':>-li 1 subject, of course, to all
of the provisions contained in your confide:3tial, tentative draft~ It was
thought that the psychologic:1l effect of this rate would be good, that it
would be an assurance of the willingness and ability of the Federal Reserve
Banks to do their part in marketing the present crop at a preferential rate,
and that the announcement of this rate would tend to stablize conditions and
help put.generally. It was further believed that if a rata of this kind were
put ' in over the south generally it would have a good effect abroad, and
among domestic consumers of cotton, as notice of the willingness and ability
of the System to function and do its part in the ~arketing of the crop.
As you will doubtless recall, when this rate was enforced in 1915
and 1916, it was not availed of much in this section, however, interest rates
have decreased somewhat in this state since then, and a great many, perhaps
hundreds of wa~ehouses, scattered over the District have been built, making it
easier to meet the conditions in respect to this sort of paper. I am inclined
to believe that the banks will be ~re inclined to avail themselves of this
facility than heretofore, and on the whole the adoption of this·rate will
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If the rate is adopted at all it should be done so
speedily. Cotton is moving to some extent in the extreme southern
and southwest Texas, and in a few weeks will be moving in substantial
volume in central Texas. I notice that cities less than fift7 miles
south of us have been receiving their first bale.
If and when the Board has fully determined the course of
the matter I shall be glad to receive advice by wire so announcement
can be made.
Very truly yours,
(Signed)

U. F. RAMSEY

Chairman.




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TELEGRAM
from
FEDERAL RESERVE BANK
DALLAS
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.August

7, 1922.

Harding,
Washington.

Our board of directors tod~ after fully canvassing the matter
are inclined to believe the special commodity rate suggested, your
X-3494~ WQuld have good effect in many ways and would probably be
pretty well availed of not only by the smaller banks of the District
but the large ones and that it would tend to somewhat increase
efficie~y in our marketing system and they instruct me to advise the
Board tl'li:i.t they had at this meeting requested the Federal Reserve
Board to approve the establishment of a special rate of }~%_.on
COID!llOdi ty paper on which the interest of the discounting bank would
not exceed 6%. If this can be done at all it would seem to me that
it would be wise to take this step imnediately and I would be glad
to be advised of the approval of this rate fixed by our board of
directors at the earliest practicable moment.




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FEDERAL

RESERVE

BANK

S.AN FRANCISCO

C0P Y

August 21, 1922 ..

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SUBJECT:

NW

Special Rate on ·commodity Paper.

dear Governor:
Receipt is acknowledged of your letter of 14th

instant.
The Board 1 s suggestion regarding a special rate
on

commodi~

paper was presented to our directors at their

meeting after discussion in the. Executive Comni ttee.

.After

going over the matter the Board voted that it approve the
view expressed to yea in

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letter o£ 8th

inst~t.

Yours very truly,

(signed)

Jobn Perrin.
Chairman of the Board.

The Honorable Edmund Platt,
Viae Gover nor, Federal Reserve Board,
Washington, D. c.




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FEDERAL

RESERVE :BANK

S.AN FRllNCISCO
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SUBJECT:

August 8, 1922.
Special Rates on Comnodity Paper.

lq dear Governor:

Receipt is acknowledged of your letter of August 2nd,
a confidential tentative draft,
discussed somewhat at our
Executive Committee meeting this morning, and I have had
a further discussion with Governor Calkins. It seems
to be the consensus of our opinions that this bank would
n~t be disposed to establish a special rate for commodity
paper at this time, and also, that if we did establish such
a rate that there would be no general disposition on the
part of member banks to avail themselves of it.

X-3494, enclosing copy of
X- 3494a. ~is matter was

I shall present the matter again next week at the
meetings, both of our Executive Committee and of our Directors,
and shall write yoa fUrther thereafter.
In response to your invitation to comment, criticise
or suggest, I may say that we are disposed to raise a
questio.n as to the desirability of fixing a Federal Reserve
bank discount rate conditioned upon the rate charged by a
member bank. :Beyond this we have no suggestion to make.

Yours very truly,
(Signed)

JOim PERRIN

Chairman of the :Board.
The Honorable W. P. G. Harding,
Governor, Federal Reserve :Board,
Washington, D. C.




FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD
WASHINGTON

August 31, 1922·.

X-3514.
SUBJECT: Leave of absence, officers of Federal Reserve Banks·.

Dear Sir:
For the ~nformation of your Board of Directors, you
are advised that the following resolution was adopted at
a meeting of the Federal Reserve Board held today:
RESOLVED: That in all cases where officers of
Federal Reserve Banks are granted, by ~~eir
:Boards of Directors, absences for a longer
period than thirty days, whether for vacation
or on account of illness, the amount of salary
that they shall receive during such absence shall
be submitted to the Federal Reserve Board for its
approval.
Very truly yours •

Vice Governor·..
TO THE CHAIRMAN OF ALL FEDERAL RESERVE :BANKS ..




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September S, 1922.
CONFIDENTIAL

SUBJECT:

X-3517.

Functional Expense Reports, July, 1922.

Dear Sir:
As Chairman of the Boardas Committee on Econo~ and
Efficiency, I take pleasure in enclosing herewith Functional
Expense EXhibit No. 2 for July, 1922, based on the first complete
expense reports by functions received from the Federal Reserve
Banks, and showing for each Federal Reserve Bank and Branch the
cost of operating each function and expense unit, together with
the number of employees and units handled. These data are being
furnished to all Federal Reserve Banks not for the purpose of
disclosing operating costs in one batik to the officials in another
bank, but to enable the senior officers and the Econo~ and Efficien~
Committee in each bank more intelligently to examine into their own .
operating costs in the light of what is being done at other Reserve
Banks.

The Committee has kept in mind that conditions vary in
each bank, and is aware that discrepancies still exist in the figures
due to lack of full understanding of the instruction manual. The
Committee believes, however, that this exhibit of costs will indicate
to the senior officers and to the Econo~ and Efficiency Committees at
the banks, as it has to the Board and its Committee on Econonw and
Efficieney, which functions or expense units are out· Of line, and it is
expected that through the use of this exhibit the Committee in each bank
will be able to determine where operating costs are too high or where
the figures they have reported need revision.
It will be noted that separate sheets have been used for
eaCh function in the preparation of the exhibit in order that data
pertaining to a particular department may be given to that department
without disclosing the figures of any other department, as it is the

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desire of the Board's Committee that this information be kept for the
cpnfidential use of the bank?s senior officers, the bank's Committee
oh Economy and Efficiency, and department maragers directly concerned.
The Secretary of the Committee, Mr. Cramer, will continue to answer
any questions concerning the application of instructions in the manual.
It is suggested that in certain instances you may find
it desirable, after examining in detail the exhibit enclosed herewith,
to communicate with some of the other Federal Reserve Banks for the
purpose of determining whether or not the operating costs of a given
department in your bank have been compiled on a basis comparable with
that followed by such other banlts, and if so, to obtain a general
outline of the operating methods at those banks with a view to
improving conditions in your own bank.
The Cornndttee appreciates the promptness with which the
reports for the month of July have been prepared and submitted, ~nd
the cooperative efforts manifested by all Federal Reserve Banks ~n an
endeavor to obtain comparable operating costs for each function.
Very truly yours,

Chairman, Committee on
Economy and Efficiency.




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WASHINGTON

X-3518

September 9, 1922.

SUBJECT:

Discussion of Federal Reserve Credit Policy at the
Joint Conference of Governors and Chairmen.

Dear Sir:
It has been suggested to tDe Federal Reserve Board that
one or more sessions of the forthcoming conference (called for
October lOth) of the Governors and Chairmen with the Board should be
devoted to a comprehensive discussion of FEDERAL RESERVE CBEDIT POLICY.
The Board share.s this

vie·~·,

and follo·-·ing is the list of

topics which it has been decided should form the basis of this discuss ion:
1. Vlliat object should Federal Reserve credit policy seek to

accomplish and by what test may we know that it is sound?
Discussion to be led by Messrs. Norris and Wills.
2. vnruat relative importance should be given to the following
factors in determining such policy?
a. Federal Reserve reserves.
b. Interest rates in the open ~arket.
c. Interest charged by member banks.
d. Interest rates paid on time deposits.
e. Balance of trade and inward or outward movement of gold.
f. Credit conditions in, and exchanges with, leading foreign
countries.
g. Volume of bank loans and deposits.
h. Business and industrial activity, present or prospective.
i. Commodity price levels.
j. Condition of security ~arkets.
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3. What light does the experience of the Federal Reserve Banks
throw on the value of different methods of making their
credit and discount policy effective?a. Discount rates.
b. Open market operations.
c. Discretion in rediscounting.
d. Credit examination of merrber banks.
e. Credit ratings of co:nnercial borrowers.
Discussion to be led by Messrs. Strong and Perrin.

4.

What is the most practicable n~thod of brin%ing about timely
and coropetent co~siJeration of ~atters of credit policy by
all of the Federal Reserve Banks and effective action to
obtain the results aimed at?
Discussion to be led by I'Tessrs. McDougal and Curt iss.

In order that the discussion of the gensral subject of credit
policy at the forthcoming conference may be thoroughgoing, productive,
and pointed, it is desired by the Board that careful preparation and
study of the topics to be considered be

~ade

in advance of the confer-

ence, and also that there should be a preliminary exchange of views in
written form.

Assignments have therefore been

~ade

in connection with

the program to those who are to start the discussion.
Each Governor and Chairroan to whom an assignment has been wade as
above, is requested to prepare a written statement on the assigned
subject, not to exceed 1200 words in length.
should bear a title and a brief introductory

Each statement or paper
paragra~h

setting forth

the proposition or conclusion it is intended to establish.

These papers

should be mimeographed and copies shculd be mailed to all other members
of the conference (Governors and Chairmen of Federal Reserve Banks)

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and to member9 of the Federal Reserve Board not later than Thursday,
September 28th.
Each Governor and Chairwan other than those listed in the
above program is requested to select one of the four main topics
on the program and to prepare a memorandum of his views upon it,
considering in this connection the discussion of the topic by those
to whom the preparation of leading papers has been assigned.

These

memoranda should not exceed 600 words in length, and should bear a
title and a brief introductory paragraph setting forth the proposition or conclusion the writer has intended to establish.

These

memoranda should be mimeographed and mailed out to all members of
the conference and to members of the Federal Reserve Board not later
than Friday, October 6th.
should be

~ailed

In adiition,

25 copies of each memorandum

to the Secretary of the Federal Reserve Board.

The preliminary exchange of papers and
to lay the foundation for the oral
Federal Reserve credit policy.

merro::.~anda

dis~ussion

is intended

at the session on

Each of the topics listed in the

above program will be taken up, and those to whom assignrrents have
been

~ade

in connection with the program will present their revised

views and oonclusions in oral statements not exceeding fifteen minutes each, after which there will be a general discussion by the
conference.

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Following the afternoon session devoted to the above
program, it is proposed to devote an evening session to the
question \7.hat does the present businass and credit situation indicate
with reference to the prospective demand for credit and the
need or advisability of any action at the present time by
Federal Reserve Eanl:s with respect to matters of credit
and discount policy?

General discussion.
Very truly yours,

vr.

Vl. Eoxton,
~ecretary.