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FROM
REMARKS:
This i s memo from Randolph P a u l , which he
wanted you t o have t h i s morning.

CHAIRMAN'S OFFICE



At a Treasury press conference held on January 26, 1942, a
question was asked as to whether the Treasury had "any intention
of indirectly reaching some of the partially exempt Federal
securitiesfcylowering the normal tax.11 The Assistant Secretary
of the Treasury replied:

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We have not considered lowering the

normal tax on individuals or corporations. On the other hand,
we are opposed to any increase in the normal tax, and we think
that any increases the Congress considers should be increases in
surtaxes, rather than in normal taxes. The reason why we are not
considering a reduction in the normal taxes is, as the Secretary
said, we do not wish to attempt to do try indirection what we think
we cannot openly accomplish directly."

In response to a question

whether it was intended to resort "to the old Glass scheme of
using tax-exempt income as a base to put taxable income in a
higher bracket,11 the Secretary of the Treasury said:
we have gone around the thing pretty much,
let me go over it once more,

"I think

I said I am opposed -

I recognize a contract exists between

the Federal Government and the men or women who have bought our
securities, and we don!t propose fcy direction or indirection to
tax them on this income, as long as these issues are outstanding.M
The Treasury's statement was intended to make clear that it
would fully respect the contractual provisions of its partially
exempt bonds now outstanding in the approximate amount of $50 billion.
Such bonds have not been issued since the Public Debt Act of 1941
making all subsequent issues fully taxable. It was intended to state




a policy that no attempt would be made to impair the exemption
accorded to these outstanding bonds ty direct means, by the
so-called "Glass" plan, or ty the expedient of reducing the
normal tax#
Unfortunatelyy some confusion has arisen -with respect to an
entirely different question. At the present time persons having
both taxable earnings and tax-exempt interest have an advantage,
as compared with other taxpayers, in that they are permitted to
reduce their taxable earnings by the expense incurred in connection
with the production of their tax-exempt interest. The privilege
of deducting such expenses from taxable earnings is entirely a
matter of legislative grace and ha.s no bearing on the contractual
obligation of the Federal Government not to impose taxes on taxexempt interest. Quite to the contrary, the privilege constitutes
a loophole in the statute which has long been apparent and has
permitted certain taxable earnings to avoid their fair share of
the tax burden.
Since banks are large holders of Federal partially tax-exempt
securities, members of the Treasury's staff have had under discussion
with representatives of the banking profession a method of charging
against taxable earnings the expenses of banks which are a proper
deduction from earnings and withdrawing the privilege of deducting
from taxable earnings the expenses properly applicable to taxexempt interest. Suggestions have been made for a formula to
accomplish this result. No formula of allocation has yet been finally
agreed upon, but it is hoped that a generally acceptable one may be
devised*