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May 11, 1942

Mr. Marriner Eccles, Chairman
Federal Reserve Board
Washington, D. C.
Dear Mr. Eccles:
In view of your well-known advocacy of compulsory saving as one of the ways to finance the war,
Mr. Cafritz has suggested that you might be interested
in a new angle in this controversy.
First, I am enclosing herewith a memorandum
written about a week ago, which discusses briefly the
effects of heavily increased taxation upon people's
ability to meet required payments on their debts, and
the probability of wide-spread defaults. This memorandum is, of course, rather sketchy and I shall be glad
at any time to discuss further with you the economic
arguments underlying its thesis.
This problem came to our attention in a very
direct manner recently. Several people who were paying
off second trusts on their homes came to us in March
with the'Statementtthat they could not meet their payments, their real estate taxes and their income taxes.
We advanced their real estate taxes for them and, furthermore, deferred their second trust payments so that they
could meet their income tax payments. Obviously, neither
we nor any other firm could long continue this practice.
I think we can assume that the President is on
economically sound ground in his contention that:
"TO KEEP THE COST OF LIVING FROM SPIRALING UPWARD, WE MUST DISCOURAGE CREDIT AND INSTALLMENT BUYING,
AND ENCOURAGE THE PAYING OFF OF DEBTS, MORTGAGES AND
OTHER OBLIGATIONS; FOR THIS PROMOTES SAVING, RETARDS EX
CESSIVE BUYING AND ADDS TO THE AMOUNT AVAILABLE TO THE
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CREDITORS FOR THE PURCHASE OF WAR BONDS
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Mr. Eccles
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The discouragement of credit and installment
buying lias already taken place through recent regulations
of the Federal Reserve Board. There still remains the
problem of somehow implementing the rest of the President's
re c ommend at i on.
My suggestion may not be a correct solution, but
I do hope that it will at least serve the purpose of stimulating further discussion among you people with the hope that
some practicable solution may be found.
The idea is briefly this:
I believe that enforced saving ought to be instituted for the duration of the war, this saving to be evidenced
by certificates which cannot be cashed until the war is ended.
This will be necessary in
order to remove from people's hands
the so called "hot moneyrt which is pressing for expenditure
in an inflationary manner. Then against the amount to be
saved, which should be graduated according to incomes, there
should be granted a tax credit to the amount of legally required minimum curtails on debts.
Such a plan would not favor the debtor class over
the class of people who have somehow managed to pay cash for
everything and remained out of debt. Those persons who are
in debt will receive tax credits againstfenfordedsavings,
which will enable them to pay up for things purchased in the
past. Those persons who are not in debt will have their enforced savings as a nest egg, to be used for purchases after
the war; a time -when increased purchasing power will be very
helpful during the transition period from a war economy to
a peace economy.
The same approach could be employed for corporations,
which in view of the proposed 94% excess profits tax and increased normal and sur taxes will also find it impossible to
meet their obligations.
Unless some such device is worked out, it seems to
me that we will precipitate wide-spread defaults, without in
any way aiding the fight against inflation.
This letter is, of course, necessarily brief and
I should be very happy to discuss this problem further at
your convenience.
Very truly yours,
NB:rl
End.




Nathan Rafler
Assistant to the President

April 30, 1942

COPY

This morning, in the column conducted by Mary
Haworth in the Washington Post, there appeared in a letter
from a married woman whose husband had recently been
called
into the armed sejrvlce, the following statement:
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with a pay status much lower than his former civilian employment, our income is not now sufficient to meet certain
obligations — including purchase of a home — which we
had previously contracted".
This woman asked for advice as to what to do with
respect to their debts on which regular payments had to be
made. In reply, Miss Haworth pointed out that "flongress
adopted legislation in 1940, described as the Soldiers1 and
Sailors' Relief Act, providing for reasonable deferment (or
longer-term financing) of "time payment" debts, such as
mortgages on real estate, installment purchase of home furnishings, cars, etc* — in order to give selectees more peace
of mind concerning the economic security of partial dependents*
No doubt some provisions of this act can be invoked on your
behalf by-the Legal Aid Bureau, and explicit arrangements made
to tide you safely through the worrisome emergency."
This is one of the first storm signals that has
been,raised concerning a situation which will undoubtedly
snow-ball in a short time into a problem of alarming dimensions* Luckily, with respect to soldiers drafted into the
armed service with a reduction in pay, Congress has foreseen the probability of defaults on installment debts of
various kinds and has made some provision for working out the
problem.
But, we are now face to face with a draft problem
of another sort — the drafting of Incomes. In his message
concerning the danger of inflation, the President called
for extremely drastic taxation of incomes, in orqler to cut
down the excess purchasing power resulting from arms expenditures to a level comparable to civilian goods available for
sale. In this connection the President also calls for.voluntary purchase of war bonds with earnings, instead of using
those earnings to buy articles which are not essential.
Furthermore, in the Presidents own words: "TO
KEEP THE COST OP LIVING FROM SPIRALING UPWARD, WE MUST
DISCOURAGE CREDIT AND INSTALLMENT BUYING, AND ENCOURAGE
THE PAYING OFF OF DEBTS, MORTGAGES AND OTHER OBLIGATIONS;
FOR THIS PROMOTES SAVING, RETARDS EXCESSIVE BUYING AND ADDS
TO THE AMOUNT AVAILABLE TO THE CREDITORS FOR THE PURCHASE
OF WAR BONDS" •



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The President Is on very sound economic ground when
he makes such a recommendation for paying off installment
debts and mortgages which are owing to finance companies and
insurance companies, who would probably use the proceeds from
such re-payments to purchase war bonds. This would be so
because the usual fields of extension of loans are rapidly
drying up due to the curtailment of Installment buying and
the almost complete cessation of private building. It is
perfectly obvious that funds used for paying off debts and
mortgages, which funds subsequently flow into the purchase
of war bonds, are anti-inflationary. The funds are thus removed from the hands of prospective purchasers of civilian
goods — so far so good*
But, while the President makes an economically sound
suggestion for the sterilization of buying power, he fails to
implement his suggestion with the means for carrying it out.
While it is true that many labor union workers in war plants
are receiving a substantially higher weekly income than they
received in the past, there does not seem to be any administration recognition of the fact that millions of citizens in
this country have failed to share in this rise In weekly Income.
Among these may be included millions of middle-class white
collar workers, millions of people existing on fixed pensions
or annuities of one sort or another, as well as most if not all
government employees, whether national, state or municipal.
These people have, in fact, already suffered a reduction In Income through a 15$ Increase in the cost of living since September 1939. They have also suffered a further decrease in
income through the rise in income taxes which took place last
year, the full import of which was painfully recognized for
the first time when taxpayers made out their returns one month
ago. Now, still further drastic increases in taxes are proposed as an anti-inflationary measure.
The President knows full well that union labor has
achieved a percentage increase in wages much higher than the
percentage increase in the cost of living. It would seem that
he has forgotten the inarticulate, vast middle-class in this
country whose income has remained stable but whose cost of
living and taxes have both increased.
Just as surely as the government has drafted men
for service in the armed forces at reduced pay, it has drafted
the incomes of people for service in our national effort. But,
while it has provided for the possible and probable defaults
on debt payments by drafted men, it has failed to provide any
relief for the large group of people who will now find it Impossible to make payments on their debts, with consequent wide
spread defaults and losses of various kinds of property which
are debt encumbered.
It does not seem possible that such a result was
Intended, for it would work enormous headships without adding
one iota to the anti-inflationary flgjat. It is a known fact
that
Interest paid on a debt is a deductible item in everyone's



income tax return while, under ordinary conditions, people
pay their debts from the income remaining after taxes. But,
people who incurred debts in the past did so' on the basis of
their income and tax liabilities at the time, and generally
had little if any margin left over. Now, increased taxes will
remove any margin of safety.
Most people who are mating monthly payments on their
homes are doing so by eqal monthly payments which consist
partly of interest and partly of principal. There are complicated tables which indicate how these monthly payments are
split up, with the amounts for interest gradually decreasing
as the amounts applied to curtail of the debt increase. These
payments are indissoluable and.no individual can pay one without the other. A default in either interest or curtail will
result in loss of the property.
If the President is sincere in his recommendation
that we should encourage the paying off of debts, mortgages
and other obligations, it would seem that some provision.must
be &ade for allowing individuals to meet these obligatory
curtails which would be endangered by increased taxation. This
might be accomplished by means of a credit on the tax return
for the minimum curtail which one is obligated to make. Furthermore, we could really encourage the accelerated curtail
of debts by any additional credits that might be decided upon.
Before Congress rushes through any hasty.tax program
which might result in wholesale deflation, it would seem that
careful study should be given to this^ debt problem. In connection with this, it should be kept in mind that the eventual
size of the national debt resulting.from our vast arms expenditures is not of great importance, so long as the national
economy is kept operating fairly close, to full blast. It will
be easy to derive by taxation the few billion dollars which
will be necessary for Interest and carrying charges on our internal debt. A debt of two hundred billion dollars might require, roughly six billion dollars a year to carry. There is
never any question that this debt needs to be repaid, for as
fast as government obligations become due, they would be replaced by other obligations in the same amount. The holders
of these bonds would not want them paid off because they would
find it difficult to find other investments of equal caliber.
Since the President is on sound ground in believing
that the purchase of war bonds out of current earnings is antiinflationary, what difference does it make if people's earnings
are first applied toward legally necessitous payments of debts,
the recipients of whom themselves purchase the war bonds? The
same end result is achieved, but additionally, there is the
desirable effect of allowing people to retain their homes or
other articles which were purchased In the past but which are
being paid for out of current earnings.




Nathan Rafler




May 28* 19*42*

Mr. Hathan Bafler,
Assistant to the President,
Cafrits,
lUth and K Streets,
Washington, D* C*
Dear Br* Raflert
I have read your letter of May 11 and the enclosed memorandum,
with a great deal of interest and find
myself in aooord with your general analysis and conclusions*
As a practical matter, I am not dear as to how
you oould permit deductions for contractual obligations
such as the paying off of mortgage debt* For a good many
months I have given some thought to the predicament of the
fixed income groups in the lower salary brackets, as well
as those whose incomes have been sharply reduoed* I wish
some workable, practicable method oould be devised affording some relief for these people*
I am taking the liberty of passing your memorandum along to people on our staff who make a study of
tax problems, and I wanted you to know that I appreciated
your courtesy in writing to me*
Sincerely yours,

(Signed) M. S. Eccles
M* 8* Bcoles,
Chairman*