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J A M E S C. FIRST 239 OLIVER DISTRICT HOUSE OFFICE MERCHANT MARINE AND W O R L D W A R VETERANSIRRIGATION A N D M A R I O N LECLAIR SECRETARY M AI ME BUILDING C o n g r e s of tf)e Œ n t t e b S t a t e s i FISHERIES LEGISLATION ^ottóc of &epreöentatüjesi RECLAMATION ïfia^fngton, 3B- C. March 16th Hon. Marriiier S# Eccles, Chairman Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System Washington, D# C. Dear Sir: My attention has been called to a release of the Béard of Governors of the Federal Reserve System eh 6, 1939j^n which a sweeping reply is made to the proposals contained in various bills in Congress, such as that of Hon* M # M* Logan of Kentucky (S. 31); the Mil introduced by Hon. Brent Spence of Kentucky in the House of like purport; the bill introduced by Hon. Wright Fatrnan of Texas; the bill introduced by Hon* John Rankin of Mississippi, and probably others. Your release groups the substance of these bills as those favoring the control of the purchasing power of money by regulating the volume of money. Your release says: ^Those who favor such proposals believe that prices can be raised by increasing the supply of money, that prices can be lowered by reducing the supply of money, and that prices can be kept fairly steady by changing the supply of money in the right direction at the right time.11 The substance of your release is a denial of the substantial truth of these views. You conclude your argument in the following words: J A M E S C. O L I V E R FIRST 239 DISTRICT M A R I O N M A I ME HOUSE OFFICE BUILDING C o n g r e s s of tfje Winittb C O M M I T T E E S : MERCHANT MARINE AND WORLD W A R VETERANS' IRRIGATION A N D LECLAIR SECRETARY FISHERIES States LEGISLATION 3t>ott¿e of J^epreaentattoesi RECLAMATION WBajS&ington, 3D. C. ••••—2® M.S.E. n In view of all these considerations the Board does not favor the enactment of any bill based on the assumption that the Federal Reserve System or any other agency of the Government can control the volume of money and credit and thereby raise the price level to a prescribed point and maintain it there.n Since your release broadly denies the law of supply and demand, it seems unnecessary to go further than to examine the question as to whether you are right in your main premise; that the value of money does not depend upon the supply of money in circulation. Yet you are contradicted by our own experience under the Board of Governors. The index of the purchasing power of money was 145 in May, 1913. When money was expended in financing the World liar, the index of the purchasing power of money fell to 60 in May, 1920, less than half what it had been before the expansion of the money supply took place. The country was able thru the Federal Reserve System to finance the World War and become highly prosperous doing so. John Skelton Williams said truly, as Comptroller of the Currency, "That one Act won the War.11 Under that Act the United States Government raised |40~billion of credits and liquidated a very large part of them. Andffthe foreign debts had been paid, would have almost completely liquidated the cost of the World War in bonds. You are contradicted flatly by the experience of 1920-21, J A M E S C. O L I V E R FIRST 239 DISTRICT M A R I O N M A I ME HOUSE OFFICE BUILDING C o n g r e ö ö of tfje Winittb C O M M I T T E E S : MERCHANT MARINE AND W O R L D W A R VETERANSIRRIGATION AND L E C L A I R SECRETARY FISHERIES States; LEGISLATION Hottóc of &epreöentatüjefii RECLAMATION IHa^fngton, 3B- C. 3. M.S.E. when the Federal Reserve Board, "by the contraction of credit and currency (the money supply), caused the price level to fall from 167 in May, 1920, r to 93 in June, 1921. This contraction of credit and currency was deliberate and intended to increase the purchasing power of money by contracting the supply of money. The details of how this was done is set forth in Senate document 310, published in February, 1923, in which the Federal Reserve banks under the influence of the Board caused the member banks to put on a drastic contraction of credit. Farm, products fell to less than half of what they were. The price of farm and farm ranch lands suffered a loss in market value of over $20-billion, from which agriculture has never recovered. The Federal Reserve Board fully understood and used their power to influence the purchasing power of money by contracting the money supply. S The effect on the purchasing power of money was immediately represented by a rise in the dollar index from 60 in May, 1920, to 107 in June, 1921. The letter of Governor W. P. G* Harding of May 25, 1920, a copy of which is^f MS**« hereto attached, shows 11 different ways in which the Board explained its power to change the price level and to change the purchasing power of the dollar. Since your Board of Governors denies the obvious and contradicts the self-evident, it is idle to follow the detail by which a justification is attempted for the conclusions which are obviously and demonstrably unsound Your Boardfs conclusions are not only contradicted by reason and by fact but by the experience of other nations. The Government of Great J A M E S C. O L I V E R FIRST 239 DISTRICT M A R I O N M A I ME HOUSE OFFICE BUILDING C o n g r e s s of tfje 3Hmteb S t a t e s C O M M I T T E E S : MERCHANT MARINE AND W O R L D W A R VETERANSIRRIGATION A N D LECLAIR SECRETARY FISHERIES LEGISLATION Jfyomste of &epresfentattoei RECLAMATION «Sajsfjington, 3B. C. i. M.S.S. Britain now directs the credit operations of the Bank of England and the Government of Great Britain during the last six years has given comparative P > trial production fifty per cent; and has given its people an unbroken _two per cent rate for the use of money employed in industry. The unreasonable denial of the obvious in the release of ¿larch 6 is contradicted by the experience of every nation in Europe. Sweden has demonstrated how money can be regulated by regulating the supply. Germany for two years past has had no change in the domestic purchasing power of the mark. Under managed money it has expanded its index of industrial production 146 per cent since 1932. During the World War when Italy expanded the lira four times, it diminished the purchasing power of the lira to one-fourth of what it had been. When France expanded the franc from sixteen billions in number to eighty billions, or five times, it diminished the purchasing power of the franc to one-fifth of what it had been. The Board of G-overnors of the Federal Reserve System in the astonishing release submitted not only contradicts the experience we have had in the United States and the experience in Europe but it flatly contradicts fJst< ^the ^pinion of the House of Representatives as declared on May 2, 1932, when the House, after a two days' debate and a unanimous report from the committee on Banking and Currency passed the Goldsborough bill directing the Secretary J A M E S C. FIRST 239 OLIVER DISTRICT HOUSE OFFICE MERCHANT MARINE AND W O R L D W A R VETERANSIRRIGATION AND M A R I O N L E C L A I R SECRETARY M AI ME BUILDING C o n g r e ^ of tfje Winiitb FISHERIES LEGISLATION States Hottóe of &epre£etttattoefii RECLAMATION IHa^fngton, 3B- C. 5. M«S.E. of the Treasury, the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve banks to make effective the policy of restoring the purchasing power of money to the predepression price level, or the average for the years 1921-29, inclusive, as found by the Department of Labor. The ihomas amendment to the Agricultural Adjustment Act was an expression of jpginion by the Congress of the U. S. thru an overwhelming vote contradicting the present declaration of the Board* The Thomas amendment recognized the principle that the value of money and the price of commodities would be directly affected by the volume of money. The Board of Governors has made itself responsible for refusing for about six years to use the means proposed by the Congress of the U. S• for relieving this country of 1 depression. The President of the U. S., himself, in his famous cable to the London Economic Conference declared the purpose of the United States to establish money whose debt-paying purchasing power should remain the same from one generation to another. And he declared his purpose to restore the pre-depression price level. The arguments made by various monetary authorities and by various groups demanded the expansion of the money supply as a means of restoring prosperity in 1932. Five hundred pages of testimony was taken by the committee. Representatives of the National Grange, the National Farmers Union, the American Federation of Farm Bureaus, and the American Federation J A M E S C. O L I V E R FIRST 239 DISTRICT HOUSE OFFICE MERCHANT MARINE AND IRRIGATION AND L E C L A I R SECRETARY BUILDING C O M M I T T E E S : W O R L D W A R VETERANS- M A R I O N M A I ME FISHERIES C o n g r e s s of tfje ^Jntteb S t a t e s LEGISLATION RECLAMATION Jfyouat ot JXepresfentattoefii IHa^fngton, 3B. C. —6. M.S.E. of Labor supported the contention« The farm organizations are now demanding the expansion of the money supply as a means of restoring prosperity and employment» I have not failed to note the argument submitted by the Board in which it is contended that the banks are full of money* That they have more money now than they had in 1929. In your release you say that the demand deposits in 1929 were |23-billion and |26-billion in 1938 and that the price level was 95 in 1929 and 77 in 1938. You argue from that that the price level, upon which the purchasing power of money is based, is not affected by the volume of demand deposits. You fail to point out what money is in its relation to prices» You fail to point out that demand deposits which are hoarded, which are not in circulation^ cannot be properly called "money11 because money is ff anything conventionally used as a medium of exchange and measure of value". Demand deposits not employed as a medium of exchange cannot properly be called "money", although it is potentially capable of quick conversion into money. But that is true of securities listed on the exchanges which are quickly convertible into money. But securities in locked boxes are not money because they do not function as a medium of exchange and measure of value. Neither are Government deposits in process of expenditure operating as a medium of exchange. Government demand deposits comprise the absorption of demand deposits from taxpayers, diminishing the amount of money used by the taxpayers as a medium of exchange and until the Government expends the money, it does not function again as a medium of exchange, nor until it is used as a medium of exchange by the depositor» In 1929 the J A M E S C. O L I V E R FIRST 239 DISTRICT M A R I O N M A I ME HOUSE OFFICE BUILDING C o n g r e s s of tfje ^Jntteb S t a t e s C O M M I T T E E S : MERCHANT MARINE AND W O R L D W A R VETERANSIRRIGATION AND L E C L A I R SECRETARY FISHERIES LEGISLATION Jfyouat ot JXepresfentattoefii RECLAMATION IHa^fngton, 3B. C. 7 M.8.E. demand deposits of June 30 for individuals and corporations, excluding P ' I inter-bank deposits and Governmental deposits, were #22.4-billion; and in 1938 (were |22.8-billion as of June 30. It appears that in the figures you use in the release for 1938 for demand deposits there has been added over $3-billion dollars of Governmental accounts because the corporate and individual demand deposits were only $22.8-billion as of June 30. This does not appear to be the only error. There is a far more important oversight made by the Board which does not appear in the statistics which you recite; and that is the extent to which in 1938 the demand deposits were hoarded. The extent to which they are hoarded is relatively ascertainable by comparing the turnover of check money or checks debited against demand deposits in 1929 and 1938. The checks debited against demand deposits in 1929 were #1227-billion and #530-billion in 1938, showing that over half of the |22.8-billion of demand deposits of 1938 were hoarded. This is well known and is capable of demonstration by an examination of the books of the banks, which have been available to the Board all these years. It is perfectly obvious that the Board of Governors has not taken into account demand deposits having zero circulation, or approximately zero circulation. It is perfectly obvious that they are entirely unconscious of the manner in which the circulating medi\3m can be contracted by the hoarding of demand deposits. These demand deposits which are hoarded are the reserves of the great corporations and insurance companies, of investment J A M E S C. FIRST 239 OLIVER DISTRICT M A R I O N HOUSE OFFICE BUILDING C o n g r e s s of t\)t Winittb C O M M I T T E E S : MERCHANT MARINE AND W O R L D W A R VETERANSIRRIGATION AND L E C L A I R SECRETARY M AI ME FISHERIES States LEGISLATION Jfyouit ot JXepresfentattoefii RECLAMATION IHa^fngton, 3B- C. 8. M.S#S. companies, of those who are merchandising in money and stocks and who sold their stocks on a colossal scale in 1937-38 and are hoarding the money as demand deposits awaiting future investments. It is perfectly obvious that the Board of Governors is responsible for its failure to make a correct diagnosis of the causes which have resulted in the destruction of the value and market price of farms and ranches and town and city property, and has resulted in the destruction of the value of securities, and has resulted in the concentration in the few large cities of a great mass of unemployed money which is being loaned to the Government at negligible rates of interest. Everybody knows that the debtors of this country who are now compelled to pay their debts in dollars which have a purchasing power of JL50 are being squeezed to death being deprived of their property and their right to a living by a contraction process brought about by those who believe in increasing the purchasing power of money and decreasing the exchange value of the products and services of Labor. I do not care to turn from the main point to discuss your observations on the price level because informed students understand that perfectly well* They know that monopolies can effect individual prices. They know that unfair trade practices can interfere with the noimal prosperity of the country; and they also know that the remedies for these things lay in other departments of Government and that the Board of Governors has no occasion or justification to excuse itself from giving the country relief thru a proper monetary policy by pleading that other departments are not discharging their duty to the public. J A M E S C. FIRST 239 OLIVER DISTRICT HOUSE OFFICE MERCHANT MARINE AND W O R L D W A R VETERANSIRRIGATION AND M A R I O N L E C L A I R SECRETARY M A I ME BUILDING FISHERIES LEGISLATION RECLAMATION C o n g r e s s i of tfje Wíníítb Statesi Hottóe ot &epres¡entatüjefií IHa^fngton, 3B- C. —9, M. E« S I have not failed to observe that your press release states your sympathy with the restoration of prosperity and the prevention of booms and depressions, but your release contains no constructive suggestions. On the contrary, they are obstructive in the highest degree and clearly intended to discourage those x^rho have been studying this question and who are trying to bring about a public understanding and to establish the means thru which the Congress of the U. 8. shall discharge its constitutional duty to regulate the value of money. Those who founded the Constitution and had had experience with unstable money put a direct mandate in the Constitution authorizing and directing Congress to regulate the value of money. And after 150 years we are confronted by A Board of Governors under the Federal Reserve Act declaring in effect that the value of money cannot be regulated by the Board or by anybody else. I wonder if the usefulness of the Board of Governors as at present organized has not ended. Yours respectfully, JAI April 22, 1959 Monümbln Jmea C. Oliver, Bous« of Bepreeeutfitiyes, Wealtliigton* G* Daar Mr. Oliver; ie in rej&y to your lelter of March 16 In y&léi you raise some about the Board*s statement on ? rapo sala to tiaiutain pricee et fixed ìmrel© throu^x isonotary action,. In the f i r s t pifece»I ahould like to cali to your cttoution a wore rscent statmont of the Board, Issued on Aprii Bt whieh &ay hetófcen'&s- a impplaaeat to th# earlier statement* In tfeìn at&ttóent tàe Board propoaoe *that Congr^ea thront appropriate^ ecmaitt^ea or m Joint c o « i t t e * take steps to deteralne th© objectives by uhich moaet&ry shall be guided, the validi t y o f differcnt plana and viewe on roonetary mé credit matterà propoeed or held by agende» Mt&in or omtaid* the Government, lncluding the Board*# ovci poeltion, and the cktnracter of governmental isaebinery that isotild br|>est oalculat@d to carry out the $mrjH?0öö of Congireee in thls important field.* W t 1 a enclosed. A ©opy of this st&te^ fte Board haa alwaya recognixsd the importaat role thnt rametary *&etÌo& can play in influencing the course of business ectivity, mphsymmt, and national incorna, and sin ce the bogirming of the Beserre Syst® haa mèémotné to pursu» ^ ì c i e s wt^l^J fcelp to maintaia econoni c stability* T&e recent stetament, con Coming ^vbich you hsve ^ritten, toc for the purpose of pointing out ea»e of the liraitations on the ©ffeotivene&s of monetary action tod to raisa the question iðer prie« etability should be the sole or priaeipal objective of such action* I t ia the Boardfs belief that the ultimate objectlve should be economic «tfebillty «ad that in order to achievo it cooperatioubetweenstany agen~ elee within and out si de the Ooveraaent is esaaiitial, fhis vie* of the Board is illnfftrated by the developaents to nfcich you refer in your letter* lfonetary action aided in financing the war, end poli elea pursued by the Syetm in the 1920fe aided in financing the reconstruetion of the iporld after the war* In the receat depresaion period, isonetary aotion km been inuch m t * vlgorous thmt in periods; FU LE Hon. James C* Oliver ^ S ** an abundant supply of money has teen maintained ana interest rates have been reduced to th© lowest levels in history. That, notwithstanding the abundance and cheapness of sioney* business has been less active in recent years than in earlier periods shows that there were retarding factors other thaji the supply and cost of money,» During the war there was en active cieeuaud for money, for financing the production of needed materials, and during the post-war period it continued in active demand in various highly profitable private activities. During these periods, in fact, imsound nsm of credit for speculation in com-* modities, real estate, and securities developed, which led to later difficulties. "She heart of the present problem is contained in the discussion of idle funds, beginning on.page 6 of your-letter. The failure of the public to make active use of the idle funds ishich it holds in the form of currency and deposits is the crux of the difficulties which we face in our current efforts to further business recovery by monetary means. As you state, deposits v;hich are idle are not effective in influencing the course of business activity and the volume of national inco&e, and the seme is true of hoarded currency. Since 1950 there has been an increase of something like 11,000,000,000 in currency of large denominations reported as in circulation. Most of this is undoubtedly held idle in private hoards. In addition to the amount of currency in circulation m d depo^iis in banks «hioh are not being actively used, the banks have nearly $4,000,000,000 of e^ese reserves. $h#s# e^ess reserves are money on which banks would like to earn interest but for vhich they can find no satisfactory mplo^eat. The banks are offering these funds at rates of interest far below those charged in the 1920* s.- In short, both the banks and the public with more funds than ever before are finding it impossible to invest thesa all. Junds currently being made available through the inflow of gold are piling up as hoarded currency, unused deposits, and idle bank reserves. This is the problem to which you call attention in your letter and which the Board has frequently discussed In its official publications. Although recent experience shoves that sizable additions to benk reserves and deposits do not suffice alone to stimulate a vigorous and sound business expansion, it is, of course, impossible to forecast the ultimate effects of adopting a program involving tremendous additions to the supply of money and bank reserves. In my opinion, such a program would tend to create a condition of fear and uncertainty in business and financial circles that would rapidly spread to the general public. As the country was literally flooded with money, the confidence of the public in our monetary eystea isigbt be shaken to such a degree that inflationary psychology uould darrelop. In such circumstances, there might be a rush by the public to convert money into conaodities and equities that would result in a speculative boom* Once a movement of this type gains headway, it is virtually impossible to regain POLE mn* J mm e. ©live* control of the situation* iny mtt^sapt to do so rua« til© dem gor of pm&ipt%tkting s vivl&nt collise in prices mid business. let ta permit the movement to run ite course uncontrolled tsould to invite en m m m m de^oreOLiiing collapse. fo mind» tìi^reiter«*, i t wulä ì>® irre&pom&ibl© publie policy to adopt & program tritìi contri na sud*! fotmtisX áangere. fö cusnot expect to couvert a boon tht;t iE bü&ed upon fe&r mû lo m of confi àeuce iii omr aomet&ry syst^e teto & mimiî mû.Xacting prosperity. As î $?0i&teá out în ïreoent mittle, I edvo^ste' me tba s^o^t effective b&f&re tin* Silver of aeitieving our objective & breed Govexnmeiit pro ¿¿rem of expeadifcureö for no coxp e ti 11v e mâ sods! benefits along with overy possible to private investment. Hevival of private investment, %hieh Is essential /for miatainaá recovery, depends upon m increase in current coneusption to a level th&t will not only utilise existing plant tmâ equipment but Mil provide pmfitiable outlets for investoent in w enterpriee. You teply in your letter that other count ri a s have been able to accomplish by stono tary policies th^t ^àich the Board* s statement denies c ¿ TOöc^piiÄed^ This view, v&ich baa often been stated, does r*ot nwm to be supported by the facts: (1} lonet&ry author!tiea of no country h m & ïtikm a» vigorous action to Inomm® ripply m ñ ireâum the »oaey ms bsve t&e authorities in th^tfoited Bt&tes* (S) Differences in behavior of prices in this country mâ in Wnglmû mê Sweden, xhe -two countries îcost frequently oited m exemples Of odvaaeed üoaetery policy, birre not been striking, (5) Such variations in economic development e m bave occurred in the different countries are attributable to other factors then tsonot&ry policies* {4} Monetary authorities of other countries the^ealvea do not believe th&t monetary action alone cm create «ad nmint&ln any desir^Ó $rlce levai. I «sa informed that in Swetfea th# objectives of the Klfcrebank:* s policy are substantially thoa# enunciated in the statement issued by the Bo&rd of öovemors of tie federal By&tm, in August 1937* Seither la BigXand nor Bweäm ha© mentami bunk j&îiey aad« a&mey m&i&w %Um i t íb In the önited gt&tesv firn Swedish Jtllg&sz& ime disbursed ccm^traMv^ly little through purchases of securities ainc© 1929; ite diecount a m û edrences have been sharply reduced; end its rediscount rat* to only 2 yet cm* as iigatefft i 1 l/£ yer tmit iör W fôdteml Be e erre bmiìce. The cash reserves of the Swedish cossn«rcial beiiJc», nateli are the bo^isof the deposit curren o y of the country» her« gr^ti^ iaore^sedfeytÄe lnflow of funds fro« abroad» es here reeerrGs ia the United 8tete$; but xntm by leadijig eoMfôreial fcisaks oa loms m m m iowr thow «hti^ed by lending beaks ia tbe F ULE Eon. James 0. Oliver - 4» The Bank of Sigi and has pursued a far less expansionist policy til an that of the Federal Ha servo bank 3* It M s done little to expend coi&erciaX bank reserves throu#i security operations* î'rom tine to time it has disbursed funds through the purchase of large emounts of gold, but the gold acquisitions of the British Exchange Sanali sat ion Account have been sterilised and prevented from increasing the amount of money available to the public, in sharp contrast to the way that the gold inflow has tern handled in this country. In England the growth in the i m m â for currency end the needs of the banks for additional reserves against deposits have been metí but the supply of money has not been increased, as it has been here, to the point where the public and the banks have large emoünts of tmused funds. Both the discount rate of the Benfe of England and market rates of interest remain higher in England then the corresponding rates in the United States. Bank of Sagland*s discount rate is 2 per cent m compared uith 1 per cent at the federal Keseive Bank of Mew York, and the prevailing rate for industrial end comercial loans is around 4 1/2 per cent in Bartend ctEspared Hîith m eversge of about 3 per cent for banks in leading cities in the United States» fhe experience of the United Stetes since 1952 so far as sale prices is concerned has not differed much from that of Baglsnd end Sweden» Earlier in the depression prices fell further in the United States. Différences between developments in this country and those in Sa gl end end Sweden* however* are not attributable to more stiimlative policies pursued by the central beaks of these ootmtriee, since their policies heve in fact been less stimulative, jM&e differences ere the consequences of broadly differing economic situations. A comparison of price raovesients in the three countries is shorn below; m e i imacss { m m # loo) United States United Kingdom Sweden 1932 68 75 78 1957 91 98 98 1938 83 S9 93 F ULE Boti* Tmm - 5 - C9 Oliver I should si so like to explain ths differences betwaen the esaount of det^and denosits se ahom in the Board1 e statement end in ycur letter. Tne differences ari se in part from the exclusion from yonr flgures of deposi te of State and locai governments isti eh have in* crèased by about 11,000,000,000 since 1929. Since these deposita are generally taeed ss actively se deposita of individuale mè corporations they are included in our total of domand deposita» ibaother difference is that the Board*e figureis adjusted to esclude the emount of cash itesas held by bsnks in groeeas of collectlon, i&icb represent cheeks drara on deposits but not yet debited and, therefore, funds not avail©ble for tvrther use* These deductions were about #700,000,000 largar in June 1929, mkm deposits mv& aetive, thsn in Beeember principal difference, howerver, ari ses from the fact that your finire for 1933 refers to the end of June ^hile the Board*s figure refers to the end of Deceder. In the six snonths from June to Becember 1938 there wae an increese of $1,600,000,000 in de&and deposits ©t banks» Ihatever figuree are used, however, it is clear that the mount of deposita was larger in 1928 than in 1929, ìshile prices were 20 per cent lower» ^ ^ Very truly >*oura, SU S. Eccles, Chaiiman* Ehclosure i^tósE^zmtimfè iw F