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Matthew F. Frick
Empire Hotel
Birmingham, Ala.
3..22..42.

Karriner S. Eccles, Esq.,
Chairman, Board of Governors,
Federal Re/serve System,
Washington, D. C.
Dear Sir:
According to TIME, you advocate a 30# withholding
tax.
The Government's need of war monies is manifest.
According to the president’s stated policy, one half thereof
should come forth in the form of unrefunded taxes. This half
is quite a large proportion, and quite unprecedented in Amer­
ica's wars. The First World War was planned one-third, but
actually paid for, one-fourth in taxes; the remainder by
loan flotations.
From this viewpoint, the president's desire to
finance one-half by unrefunded taxes is quite a startling pro­
gram.
I, personally, for many reasons as listed below,
consider it more expedient to adhere to our former proportion­
alities. And to raise the necessary totals by means of en­
forced savings, as advocated by many leading lights,
CONSIDER*
1) 25,000,000 citizens have, and will have, no
increased income due to the war.
Maybe, 35,000,000.
2) Labor, when it has 30# taken out of its pay
check, will feel poorer by exactly that 30#. And by poorer,
I mean feel somewhat underpaid. There will arise, then, some
demand for an upward revision of wages. If labor already is
advocating (and demanding) more money to meet increased liv­
ing co81s, they, most naturally, will lump this 30# as part
of their living expenses. At least, they will feel the pinch,
grumble, and work toward some compromise.
Whatever the processes followed, labor will suffer
some diminution of incentive.
I quote from a speech by Randolph B. Paul, Genl. Counsel
of the Treasury, before the American Academy of Bflitical &
Social Science, Philadelphia, Nov. 30, 1942.
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longer
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"The advantages ... claimed for compulsory ... sav­
that, compared with taxation, they preserve the incent­
work. Workers will be more willing to work harder and
if they feel that they are only temporarily deprived
fruits of their labor, and that they may enjoy these
after the war when goods are once more abundant. Sim-

-2ilarly, the promise of future rewards inherent in compulsory
saving justifies a greater restriction xmmmx on consumption
among the lower income groups than would be justified under
outright taxation. A third advantage follows from the first
two, namely, that LARGER TOTAL LEVIES on all income groups
become more acceptable when a promissory note is substituted
for a tax receipt. Finally, the compulsory saving scheme
wiuld create a reserve of individual purchasing power for the
post-war period.***
In summary, permit me to express my viewpoint,
to which I have found many, many persons fully agreed«-If a taxpayer, having 20, 25, 30# deducted from
his pay in outright taxes, will grumble, say, 100#} he will
grumble only 25 or 33# if half that deduction is receipted
for in bonds.
And he will almost have no grumble at all,
if 3/4 is credited with bonds, eve* if the total deduction
should climb higher than 30#.
* * * * * * * *

It seems to me that, laterally, we are concentrat­
ing too much about the Ruml and othefc plans, which havi noth­
ing to do with total government receipts, but only with the
time and manner of collection. Some newspaper writers have
even gone so far as to *sloganw the Ruml plan as a "painless
method*; whereas, of a verity, taxes are taxes, collect them
as you will. The Ruml or other plan will, of course, collect
promptly monies that otherwise would give the deputy collect­
ors quite a run.
$ * * * * * * *

The complications of the enforced savings method
are not very difficult to solve.
Let a tax payer buy TAX-DEDUCTION BONDS to-day or
during the affected period. TAX-DEDUCTION BONDS bearing no
interest; non-transferrable except for emergency reasons; re­
deemable only gradually after the war. Then, at time of
tax report and payment, let him deduct,nfrom his tax obli­
gation, the permitted proportion as governed by his having
purchased the proper amount of TAX-DEDUCTION BONDS.
Or, if deducted from earnings, let Government
issue immediately the proper proportion of said bonds.
* * * * * * * *

I consider it most expedient that the war-time
strictures be made as easily borne as possible, itoeric has
not been invaded (except in a remote portion of its possess­
ions, portions that are not yet sunk into our thoughts as
being really part of us). The American people have not whole­
heartedly absorbed their obligation to fight all over the world



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They may do bo in time. I do not know. But why
experiment with a host of authoritarian decrees to sound out
how much they are in full sympathy with all the complications
of global strategy? Why sow the seeds for a future (possible,
even probable) swing of the pendulum to our old-fashioned
re&ctionarism? I hear much talk that makes me think that this
swing of the pendulum is on the way; and if it swings, it will
swing with true American excessivenessi that is, to extremes.
Per sonally, I believe, much of all these doubts
can be minimized, by the adoption of compulsory savings, which
will accord quite well with the old-fashioned American frugal­
ity that built this land.




Yours very truly,

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March 23, 1943.
Mr. Matthew F. Frick,
Empire Hotel,
Birmingham, Alabama.
Dear Mr. Frick:
As Mr. Iccles is on a trip in the i/vest, X wish to acknowledge
your letter of March 22 in regard to his recent speech, a copy of which
I enclose because the newspaper accounts were necessarily very fragmen­
tary and did not give a correct impression of his proposal for a 30 per
cent withholding tax.
What he suggested was that the withholding tax be made 25 per
cent if the Victory tax of 5 per cent is retained, but he expressed a
preference for repealing the Victory tax and introducing a flat 30 per
cent withholding tax. The import nt point, however, is that this would be
deducted after the income tax exemptions, end in most cases it would mean
that no more, or very little more, would be taken out of the pay envelope
than is now required to meet the taxpayer's tax bill. Since it would come
out of current income, however, it would be necessary to couple it with
something.like the Ruml plan so that taxpayers who had not saved enough out
of last year's income to meet their taxes - and, of course, most of us did
not - will not be paying two years' taxes in one year.
Mr. Iccles suggested that of the 30 per cent, possibly 5 per cent
be refundable as a post-war credit. He suggested the 30 per cent because,
as you know, the normal tax is 6 per cent, the first surtax bracket is 13
per cent, the amount now taken by the Victory tax is 5 per cent, making a
total of 24 per cent, and he felt it would be wise to add another 6 per cent,
most of which would be a post-war credit, making the total 30 per cent. That
would cover the great bulk of income taxpayers, including those who otherwise
might not save the money to pay the tax. In addition, of course, the with­
holding diverts the money from the spending stream before it can have in­
flationary effects.
You are entirely right that millions of citizens have had no increase
in income, and they are in effect casualties of the war. Various tax authorities
here have given a great deal of thought to trying to devise some way of making
special allowance for these groups, but no practical device has yet been developed.
I shall show Mr. Iccles your interesting letter on his return, and
in the meantime permit me to thank you on his behalf.

 Enclosure


Sincerely yours,

Elliott Thurston,
Special Assistant
to the Chairman.