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J o h n C. H a m m
M EM BER S T A T E BAR OF C A L IF O R N IA
Temple. City. California

June 28, 1939.
Honorable Marriner S. Eccles, Governor,
Federal Reserve Board,
Washington, D. C.
My dear Governor:
Again I have the pleasure of adding my meed of praise
and commendation as atribute to the high quality of your states­
manship.
The press account contained in Washington Merry Go Round
of your advices to the President on "too much saving", and recogni­
tion of the principle underlying retirement life payments, and your
firm stand in reply to the President’s plea that it is too late to
change social security legislation, place you in the front rank of
progressive statesmen of this period.
What pleases me very much is that you were, and are, in po­
sition to bring this thing home to the President as none other with
your keen understanding £an. Early in 1935 whenjithe subject of social
security became matter of first importance, an “expert" was sent to
Europe to gather data for a plan for modern America, The results
were embodied in a scheme of "saving" forty years too late.
When the present form of the Social Security Act was agreed
upon, I wrote personally - "Mr. president, you cannot put the new
wine of a christianized social security in the old bottles of eco­
nomic hoarding, selfishness and greed." Of course the "cordon of sec­
retaries" never let the President see this warning. It was referred
to Witte and Altraeyer and the other devotees of the antiquated sys­
tem that was perfect because they had perfected it,
I feel sure my aphorism has been fully vindicated by the
futile attempt to administer a scheme that, is inadequate, confisca­
tory, discriminatory, and one of the most unpopular of New Deal Adts.
Your undeniable statement to the President that "what should be dine
is to provide reasonable pension f6r old persons immediately, without
regard to whether they have contributed to the fund, , • . * would be
economically sound at this stage of our economic life," is of the
very essence of the whole matter.
This"stage of our economic life" has produced a permanent
quota of unemployed by the multiplication of "labor-saving" machines;
has produced about eight millions of paupers, or near paupers, who
were the builders of the last generation, but whose savings, security
and substance was destroyed by a "change in policy" of the Federal
Reserve Board in 1921 under a far different head than you; has destr­
oyed the morale of marital and home life of a decadent democracy.
There would be no "isms" in our country today if what you told the
President that day were enacted into administrative law.
For the sake of your father’s friendship, as well as for
our common ideals, may I subscribe
rullK, you-r^Frieiid,






July 5, 1939-

Mr. John C. Hamm,
Temple City, California.
Dear Mr. Hamm:
I have your letter of June 28 and appre­
ciate your thoughtfulness in writing to me again.
I,
of course, agree with,you about the
present operations of our social security system,
and I was interested to learn that you had ques­
tioned it at the time that it was agreed upon.
Miile I was strenuously opposed then, as I am now,
to any such enforced saving in a period of depres­
sion, I have not been successful in having my view
of it prevail.
I wanted you to know that I am glad to
have your views and your encouragement.
Sincerely yours,

M. S. Eccles,
Chairman.

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J o h n C. H a m m
ME ¡B E R S T A T E BAR O F C A L IF O R N IA
Temple. City. California

July 26, 1939.
Honorable Marriner Ecoles,
Fedearal Reserve System,
Washington, D. C.
Dear Governor Eccles:
I am grateful for the spirit of your letter of July 5th.
Grateful too that you were glad to have my views and such encour­
agement my whole-hearted interest is able to convey.
It lis becoming more evident to me that you have a broader
and more profound conception aB well as a clearer vision of the
problem involved in our monetary and social status than the great
majority of those now entrusted with the making and administration
ofpour laws.
Realizing your comprehension of this problem, I feel
freer to present to you my view-points with an assurance that you
will understand - that which all to<jfaany in public life do not.
Going back a generation, we find a proud, happy, prosper­
ous, contented and progressive people. Persons of all ages could
find employment in the spheres of life for which they took pride
in fitting themselves. Individuality was possible. Choice was at
their command. Home life the rule of the community. The great mass
engaged in agricultural pursuits were independent and secure.
Something struck at the heart of that security. Something
turned our country from its moorings in the safe harbor of content­
ment, and the morale of our national life has been sinking to lower
levels ever since.
I place the beginning of the economic debacle, especially
as affecting our basic industry of agriculture, in the Spring of
1921. The "change in policy 11 adopted by the Federal Reserve Board
started the destruction of that industry.
Following hand in haad
was the change in technic of the^Lndus trial system. The ?rorld war had
taught industry that it could do things with a modicum of men where
many had been required before.
Thus the destruction of the^accumulâtions of millions of
people who were the flower of the last generation, augmented by the
displacement of craftsmen by mechanised tools, created a condition
of disemployment the worst evè^cnown. Millions of thse ware those
who had saved - their savings went down with the failure of over five
thousand banks in the eight years preceding 1929.
These are the real "forgotten m e n 1». They were not shiftless.
They were the builders of their generation. They had saved, and the



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manipulation of a financial system by men who, I will be charitable
in believing, did not know the consequences of their atte. These mill­
ions once weljLto-fio, were despoiled of their savings, their homes,
their hopes, - and are now subjected to a system of pauperism that has
driven them to feel that even their honor is lost. Is it any wonder
that more persons have committed: suicide since 1921 than all the sol­
diers that were killed on the battle-fields of all the wars in which
we hgve engaged as a nation?
When, as reported in the press, you told the Presic^it that
the social security accumulations should be paid out to thAse quali­
fied without regard to whether they had paid into the fund or not,
you put your finger on the line where the obligation of the govern­
ment rests. It was an agency of the government-that impaled these
elders on the cruel cross of crucifixion. You told the President,
"It is never too^ate to do ri^ht*. go it is the duty of the government
whose agents were responsible for their financial destruction, to make
such restitution as decency demands and humane instincts will approve.
What shall be done, end. how, to reestablish the family life
that was so d e v a s t a t i n g destroyed, and to build up' the new family
life that is being retarded,- almost wiped out?
The methods of mass
relief from starvation is not doing it, and never will. The regi­
mentation, as p e r m a n e n t system, into WPA groups is a travesty on
American individuality and good citizenship.
The only sensible thing to do is to recognise the necessity
for retiring these elders on an annuity ihat will be adequate for
self-respect as well as for subsistence. 'Fifteen"hundred dollars a
year is not too much per person. T h a t •would buy adequate food, ade­
quate clotHiing, andequate shelter, which would at once create a home
market for the products of the soil and of the factory, beside which
the foreign trade still talked about by certain economists would pale
to insignificance.
Those who talk about such an annuity as being "something
for nothing” are too narrow' to be classed as intelligent, much less
as staesrnen. These elders built the country in their generation, and
they built it in tangible improvements, not stock-gamblingspeculation.
Are they not entitled to some remuneration from the abundant bounty
rfith which the country is overflowing?
I know these people. I have thousands of letters from them
from every state in the Union. I know how they would spend the an­
nuities granted. Adequate credits extended them through annuities
would so stimulate every form of industry t^Vit a real prosperity- the
prosperity of production and consumption of goods,- would result such
as our country has never known. The rejuvenated life of these mill­
ions, with their wealth of experience, would be such a moral asset
as the country would do well not to continue to cast aside.
iet it be objectd that this is visionary- but it was saifi.
long ago "Without vision the nations perish". Shall we allow this
great nation to perish because those to whom we look for l e a d e r ^ p
have not, and will not, have the vision?






August

10, 1939.

Mr. John C. Hamm,
Temple City, California.
Dear Mr. Hamm:
This is to acknowledge receipt of your
letter of July ¿6, which I was much interested to
read.
Not only is my sympathy aroused, as is
yours, by the plight of the older citizens who,
through no fault of their own, are destitute and
unable to enjoy the fruits of the lifetime of labor
that they have put in to building up this country,
but viewed only on economic grounds, an adequate
social security program is essential to the pros­
perity of this country at this stage of our development.
Instead of paying out benefits at a time when we
badly need increased consumption, we have been making
the mistake of collecting a huge reserve fund by taxes
that bear heavily on consumption*
I was glad to have your views and I ap­
preciate your courtesy in writing.
Sincerely yours,

M. S. Eccles,
Chairman.

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