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T H E CANANDAIGUA NATIONAL B A N K
AND T R U S T C O M P A N Y
GEORGE W.HAMLIN

CA3SJANI)AIGUA, N . Y \

July 7

1938

PRESIDENT

Mr. M . S. Eccles, Chairman
Board of Governors of the
Federal Reserve System
Washington, D. C.
Dear Mr. Eccles:
I have received and read with much interest your
letter of June 27th and also the copy of your recent letter to
Senator Vandenberg which you enclosed.
The latter contains the
best answer to the questions discussed that I have yet seen, and
suggests the solution of many of the problems which have so depressed
and discouraged bankers generally and the small town bankers in
particular.
I have delayed acknowledging your letter until I
could have the new scheme for the valuation of a bank's security
list, which you mention in your letter, applied to our particular
list over a period of years.
For the purpose of obtaining the
eighteen months averages, we used market values as of the last day
of each month, as we had these figures available since 1934.
A
daily average would, of course, give a somewhat different result,
but I doubt whether there would be a wide variation from our
figures.
I received the valuation figures this morning and
am enclosing a copy, as I think you may be interested to see how,
as applied to our bank, the operation of the new rule compares with
that of the old.
Some of the results are most surprising and,
while favorable to us at this time, at other times appear to be
quite the reverse.
As the only reason for valuing a security list at
all is to determine whether the bank can pay its obligations in
full at a given time, I cannot see how it can legally be deprived
of the benefit of any appreciation that may exist in Groups I,
III or IV to offset any depreciation in Group II or III or IY>
as the appreciation is an actual cash asset that can be realized
by sale in a few days time.
As we have something like ^530,000.00 in our
Surplus, Undivided Profit and Reserve Accounts, we are well protected
at this time against the operation of either rule, but I cannot
even vaguely imagine how this new method of figuring values will
affect our bond problems in the future.



T H E CANANDAIGUA NATIONAL B A N K
AND T R U S T C O M P A N Y
C A ^ a s t d a i g i j a , N.Y.

G E O R G E W. H A M L I N
PRESIDENT

Mr. M . S. Eccles .

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I very infrequently get to Washington, ordinarily
not more than once a year.
When I have occasion to come again,
I should very much like to have a short conference with you, if
you are free to give me one at the time, and get your advice on
some of the small tovm banking problems, in which banks like ours
are vitally interested.
I will take the liberty of writing you
to ask for an appointment before making my next trip to the.
Capitol.

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President.

July 12, 1938

Mr. George to. Hamlin, President
The Canandaigua National Bank
and Trust Company
Canandaigua, Mew York
Dear Mr. Hamlin:
This will acknowledge your letter of July 7 respecting the
recent changes in examination procedure with special reference to the
treatment of bond depreciation* ftith your letter you enclosed a table
of figures showing the depreciation or appreciation which would be reflected through an examination report under the new method as compared with
the old method, as you ay, this shows some surprising results and was
very interesting to me. The only time, of course, that the old method
would be more advantageous to a bank would be during a period of high current prices with relatively low prices obtaining during the preceding eighteen months. Your letter suggests, therefore, that there might be times
when the new procedure would work to your disadvantage as against the old
rule. I do not think this necessarily follows, as the treatment of such
depreciation is not for the purpose of showing loss and consequently of
requiring charge-off as depreciation is charged off only respecting defaulted bonds and all stocks. There might be a time, as you suggest,
when appreciation in Group II would offset depreciation in Groups III
and IV so that a charge-off would be required even though the entire portfolio might show a net appreciation. In such a situation it is obvious
that the tendency would be for banks to sell some of the Group II securities
which showed a profit, using the profit to offset the loss in the other
groups. Thus the operation of the new rule, to my mind, serves to induce
selling of the more speculative type of securities when they are high and
to prevent such selling during periods of low prices, such a result seems
to be desirable.
One statement you made in your letter indicates to me that you
do not appreciate fully the general principles underlying the recent revision.
You say: "as the only reason for valuing a security list at all is to
d^^^ineietfi^tjfe^^lhe bank can pay its obligations in fu^l at a given time,
I cannotoT^ee how it can legally be deprived of the benefit of any appreciaphilosophy behind the new rules is that a bank should
not be ^examined for the purpose of seeing whether it can liquidate on the
basx^wof ^in^rkieEf quotations obtaining on the date of the examination. On

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the contrary, the examination should be for the purpose of disclosing the
general condition of the bank and the policies and practices of its
management. The valuation of securities should be based on the same
general principles as the valuation of loans or any other assets. You
would not think of valuing or pricing your various loans on the basis of
what they might bring if disposed of on the date of examination. On
principle, no bond should be priced as of the date of the examination unless it is a bond on which loss is indicated such as a defaulted bond.
In other words, unless there is something inherently wrong with a bond
it is good until it goes sour, just as any loan is. However, in approaching
this problem, too great a departure from tradition could not be expected
and for that reason it was agreed that bonds of less than the top quality
(Group I) should be priced, but on an eighteen months1 average ratner than
on the market as at the date of examination. But here again the depreciation is not to be charged off but half of it is to be deducted in computing
the net sound capital of the bank. The salient point in all this is that
the soundness of a bank should not be determined by the market ticker on
the date of examination but rather on the basis of what the various assets
in the bank are worth over the long pull. ±his conception treats the oank
as a going concern and not as a business to be liquidated on the date of
examination.

Yours sincerely,

M. S. Eccles
Chairman

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Group III
Groun II
Actual
50" of 13-30.
A'wteciation Depreciation ;>ver« LV. jr. c« Appreciation
Grou • I

1355

Group IV

Total

Aprjmcictlon

Hew Method Old Method

52,905
81,307
62,824

250,760
225,924
217,238

174,405
166,644
147,018

26,032
4,015
d 49,734

11,156
16,115
16,354

57,010
65,074
78,116
104,758

£01,550
177,763
134,852
10,j,244

14£,522
137,350
134,465
131,338

d 5?,824
d 8^,305
d 66,513
24,050

18,824
16,1-53
15,435
15,745

Jan.
Feb.
alar.

103,926
130,?87
125,558

65,594
47,674
56,546

125,045
116,348
107,899

36,US
44,831
41,281

18,876
21,770
21,675

—

Apr.
May
June

114,584
120,615
144,761

63,539
46,853
54,493

33,524
30,535
82,191

23,057
33,546
43,753

17,601
16,680
12,137

—

July
Aug.
Sept.

158,127
160,238
159,321

59,737
53,718
47,355

75,006
67,568
60,355

56,566
58,491
74,467

14,734
16,354
20,135

—

Oct.
Nov.
Dec.

165,045
187,170
180,657

44,261
43,864
35,559

56,415
52,934
47,097

86,064
88,026
107,531

26,783
58, 2 U
37,U1

—

Jan.
Feb.

162,313
152,198
80,226

23,607
57,374
60,248

41,583
36,606
32,652

106,365
U5,446
88,257

44,303
42,570
46,223

Apr*
May
June

68,873
75,151
72,588

80,418
85,299
U S , 235

29,947
£8,570
28,736

64,322
53,408
37,435

33,205
34,443
23,474

July
Aug.
Sept#

99,475
77,812
46,625

83,784
101,162
149,364

23,688
30,890
33,474

41,364
32,830
12,742

36,U4
31,353
£2,566

20,485
2,855
d 8,117

171,663
137,367
189,834

36,508
40,432
44,530

a
d

5,857
12,636
17,623

18,166
15,073
10,443

Jan.
Feb*
Liar*

45,308
73,062
4,383

287,724
277,252
383,240

50,585
56,730
66,108

d

21,380
7,531
17,427

11,519
12,041
4,759

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Apr-%
Ma„
June

63,343
98,753
105,728

322,762
289,870
280,317

73,840
80,672
87,433

12,832
6,165
4,008

7,901
7,193
13,028

—

Ji
Aug.
Sept.
Oct.
Itov.
Bee.

-

-

-

—

-

174,405
163,644
136,572
136,556
220,255
200,076

1551,338

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-

—

/

180,371
13c,196
153,083
166,66*:
131,758
86,826
40,534

1956

Oct*
Hov*
Dec*

d

—

-

-

-

-

125,045 / 33,953
116,348 / 150,107
107,839 / 131,531
90,524 / 87,402
30,595 ^ U5,745
8*;, 191 / 125,356
75,006 / 169,788
67,568 / 151,423
60,355 / 205,963
56,415 / 233,631
52,934 / 267,544
47,097 / 289,781

-

41,583
283,380
56,606 / 272,240
32,652 / 154,465

-

£3,947
28,570
£5,736

—
-

—
-

—
-

2^,888
50,830
33,474
42,165
5-3,128
62,153

/
/
/
/
/
—
M

92,583
87,710
24,000
87,771
40,814
67,430
138,875
19:,089
205,132

1358

July 5 f 1938



d
d
d

d

-

-

m

7i,9S5
56,790
85,535

—

8o,752
86,837
91,501

258,413
_ 130,032
- 166,168

-

T H E CAMiiNDAlOUA NATION/iL BAKK A N D THU3T COMPANY
CANAKDAIOUA, HEW TGRK*

252,276
184,618
331,521

REPORT OF CONDITION OF THE CANANDAIGUA NATIONAL BANK
AND tRUST COMPANY OF CANANDAIGUA IN THE STATE OF
NEW YORK, AT THE CLOSE OF BUSINESS ON MARCH 7, 1938.
(Published in response to call made by Comptroller of the Currency,
under Section 5211, TJ. S. Revised Statutes)
ASSETS
Loans and discounts
$ 802,506.92
Overdrafts
57.19
United States Government obligations, direct and fully guaranteed
1,416,279.00
Other bonds, stocks, and securities
2,405,285.90
Banking house, $38,096.54; Furniture and fixtures, $11,136.14..
49,232.68
Real estate owned other than banking house
5,500.00
Reserve with Federal Reserve bank
510,458.65
Cash, balances with other banks, and cash items in process
of collection
348,488.51
Cash items not in process of collection
866.87
Other assets
186.55
Total Assets

$5,538,862.27
LIABILITIES
Demand deposits of individuals, partnerships, and corporations $ 754,578.95
Time deposits of individuals, partnerships, and corporations. 3,606,056.42
State, county, and municipal deposits
252,995.70
United States Government and postal savings deposits
4,038.27
Deposits of other banks, including certified and cashier's
checks outstanding
23,532.90
Deposits secured by pledge of loans and/or
investments
$ 168,808.31
Deposits not secured by pledge of loans
and/or investments
4,472,393.93
Total Deposits
$4,641,202.24
Other liabilities
.
Capital account:
Class A preferred stock, 2,750 shares, par $40]
per share, retirable at $40 per share
[$360,000.00
Common stock, 2,500 shares, par $100 per share J
Surplus
250,000.00
Undivided profits—net
235,091.74
Reserves for contingencies
42,553.34
Preferred stock retirement fund
10,000.00
Total Capital Account
Total Liabilities



14.95

897,645.08
$5,538,862.27