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November 22, 2010

By Email and Federal Express
Gary J. Cohen, Esq.
General Counsel
Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission
1717 Pennsylvania A venue, NW
Suite 800
Washington, DC 20006-4614

Publication of JPMorgan and Bear Stearns Confidential Interview Materials
Dear Gary:
On behalf of JPMorgan Chase & Co. (with its subsidiaries, "JPMorgan"), I
write in response to the Commission's notices regarding the potential wholesale
disclosure of confidential summaries, transcripts and/or audio files of Commission
interviews of current and former employees of JPMorgan and Bear Stearns (the
"Interview Materials") on the Commission's website as part of its "oral history" project.
Respectfully, we object to the proposed disclosure of the Interview Materials, which is
contrary to repeated express assurances regarding confidentiality provided by the
Commission staff, unfairly prejudices JPMorgan and/or the individuals in question, and is
unnecessary in light of the already-established procedure for the dissemination of the
Commission's investigative materials through the National Archives.
During our many interactions with Commission staff members over the
past year, we were never informed that any tape-recording, transcript or summary of any

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Commission interview might be published in its entirety. To the contrary, we and the
witnesses were assured that the purpose of the interviews was to aid the Commission in
drafting its Report and/or to provide relevant information to the Commissioners in
advance of public hearings. We understood, through our discussions with you, that each
of the interviews would be afforded confidential treatment, subject to the Commission's
archiving requirements. We were explicitly told, in connection with the tape-recording of
certain interviews, that the tape-recordings were being made to ensure that the Report
contained accurate references or quotations. And, with respect to the many interviews
that were not tape-recorded, we were led to believe that staff interview memoranda would
be used solely for purposes of briefing the Commissioners and potentially contributing to
the Report, and were not for public dissemination.
Had we been informed that the Interview Materials potentially would be
published on the Commission's website, we may have objected to the Commission's
interview requests and sought additional time to prepare witnesses. As you are aware, we
provided extraordinary levels of cooperation to the Commission, often making witnesses
available for interviews on extremely short notice. Frequently, in advance of the
interviews the Commission provided only a vague idea of the topics to be covered, many
of which concerned events from years earlier, and never identified prior to the interviews
which of the hundreds of thousands of documents produced by JPMorgan it intended to
show the witnesses. In addition, Commission investigators frequently asked witnesses
questions that could create a misleading or inaccurate record. For example, many
witnesses were asked questions outside their areas of expertise, or questions that sought
the official position of the firm, which non-executive witnesses lacked the authority to
answer. Commission interviewers also frequently urged witnesses to speculate. Given
these circumstances, publication of the Interview Materials would be unfair and flatly
inconsistent with the Commission's representations to us regarding the treatment of
confidential information obtained at the interviews.
In addition to the concerns highlighted above, we object to the publication
of the Interview Materials in light of ongoing litigation against JPMorgan and Bear
Stearns involving many of the topics covered during the Commission's interviews. In
several instances, it was obvious that Commission document requests, interrogatories,
and interview questions were based on allegations in civil action complaints filed against
JPMorgan, Bear Stearns, and/or the individual witnesses. In fact, we were told more than
once by Commission investigators that civil action complaints were among the primary
materials being reviewed by Commission staff in advance of certain interviews. An
overlap between shareholder litigation and the Commission's investigation was evident,
for example, in the Commission's April2010 interviews ofBear Stearns witnesses. 1

It is important to note that, pursuant to the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act,
discovery in the consolidated securities fraud action against Bear Steams has been

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Similarly, an entire interview with a JPMorgan witness substantially overlapped with
litigation against JPMorgan related to its role as the triparty repo agent for Lehman
Brothers Inc. The Commission can avoid providing free discovery to plaintiffs and still
provide the public with an oral history of the financial crisis by allowing the National
Archives to handle the release of the Interview Materials after the expiration of a waiting
period? This solution is similar to the one adopted by the 9/11 Commission, which we
understand released its interview materials exclusively through the National Archives.
We also object to the publication of summaries or "memoranda for the
record" of the thirteen interviews for which no contemporaneous tape-recording of the
interview was made. 3 Inherent in the drafting of an interview summary is the inclusion of
the author's or note-taker's impressions and interpretations of the statements of the
interviewee. Aside from the real risk of inaccurate or incomplete transcription,
particularly given the complicated and often technical subject matter of certain of the
interviews, publication of the Commission's interview impressions and interpretations
almost certainly will result in inaccurate and misleading information being provided to
the public. To guard against this possibility, we ask that interview summaries not be
released publicly, or, if they must be, that they be released only through the National
Archives, after a minimum of five years. If the Commission believes that information
from these interview summaries is relevant to the causes of the financial crisis, then we
assume such information will be referenced or quoted in the Commission's Report
(subject to any objections we may make upon reviewing such references in the draft
Report).
If, notwithstanding our objections, the Commission decides to publish
Interview Materials on its website, we respectfully request that the Commission limit the
publication of such materials to senior executives of JPMorgan and Bear Stearns. First,
the interviews of non-executive witnesses, who are largely unknown to the general
public, will be of significantly less interest to the public than the interviews of senior
executives. Second, non-executive employees generally do not speak on behalf of their
employers, and may not ordinarily share details of their employment background and

stayed. Thus, disclosure of the Interview Materials on the Commission's website
would provide plaintiffs with discovery to which it currently is not entitled.
2

We request that the Interview Materials be released by the National Archives after a
minimum waiting period of five years.

3

The interviews of Michael Alix, James Cayne, John Chrin, Wendy de Monchaux,
Paul Friedman, Thomas Marano, Samuel Molinaro, Sandra O'Connor, Howie Rubin,
Alan Schwartz, Warren Spector, and Robert Upton were not recorded. We assume
the interview of Ira Wagner also was not recorded.

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compensation publicly. Releasing materials to the public pertaining to these interviews
would be inappropriate and unfair- particularly because the witnesses were not notified
in advance of being interviewed that their interviews might be posted on the
Commission's website. Accordingly, we respectfully request that the Commission not
release the interviews of the following current and former JPMorgan or Bear Stearns
employees:
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Michael Alix
William Buell
John Chrin
Ralph Cioffi
Wendy de Monchaux
Scott Eichel
Mark Feldman
Paul Friedman
Mary Haggerty
Thomas Marano
Blythe Masters
Steven Meyer
John Mongelluzzo
Stephanie Mudick
Sandra O'Connor
Howie Rubin
Robert Upton
Ira Wagner
Lela Wingard

Should the Commission nevertheless determine to publish all Interview
Materials on its website over the objections articulated in this letter, we ask that (i) the
Commission redact the particular confidential portions of the Interview Materials we
identify, and (ii) the Commission redact the following confidential subject matter from all
Interview Materials: personal compensation, employment, and health information;
competitively sensitive information involving JPMorgan business operations; and
potentially embarrassing personal commentary on particular individuals. For example:
(1)

The interviews of Paul Friedman, Louis Lebedin, Thomas Marano,
and Robert Upton address their personal compensation;

(2)

The interviews of Sandra O'Connor and Barry Zubrow contain
sensitive, non-public information concerning JPMorgan's business
operations; and

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The interviews of Thomas Marano, Paul Friedman, Samuel
Molinaro, Alan Schwartz, Wendy de Monchaux, and Steven
Meyer contain their personal reflections on other Bear Steams
employees, which are irrelevant to the causes of the financial crisis
but potentially embarrassing to these witnesses.

Finally, further to our November 10 and November 17 conversations, we
write to confirm the list of confidential documents produced by JPMorgan that the
Commission potentially may disclose publicly. We understand that the attached list
(Exhibit A), which was sent to us the day before the May 5, 2010 Bear Steams hearing,
comprises the bulk of the documents the Commission may release. We also understand
that the Commission may seek to disclose a small selection of additional confidential
documents from JPMorgan, and shortly will provide us with a list of those documents.
Once we have received the Commission's final list of those confidential documents from
JPMorgan that it may potentially publish, we will provide any objections to such
disclosure.
Thank you for your attention to these matters, and please let us know if
you have any questions.
Sincerely,

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"Sarah Zuckerman" <szuckerman@fc1c gov>
Brad S Karp/PauiWe1ss@PauiWe1ss
Jess1ca Carey/PauiWe1ss@PauiWe1ss, Enc S Goldsteln/PauiWelss@PauiWeiSS,
"Gary Cohen" <gcohen@fc1c gov>, "Mma S1mha1" <ms1mha1@fc1c gov>
05/04/2010 01 02 PM
L1st of FCIC Documents for 5/5/10-5/6/10 Heanng

Mr. Karp,
Below please find our final list of documents that we may reference or disclose in
connection with our hearings tomorrow or Thursday.
The first two documents are the only ones that we are adding to the list that we had
previously provided to you. Please let me know if you have any questions.
Best,
Sarah Zuckerman
Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission
szuckerman@fcic.gov
202-292-1388

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Minutes of a Regular Meeting
of the Board of Directors
2008-03-12 Bear Stearns
Weekly Mortga!!e Risk
2007-03-22 Bear Stearns
Minutes of a Regular Meeting
of the Board of Directors
2007-03-22 The Bear Stearns
Comganies Inc. Finance and
Risk Committee ofthe Board
of Directors Charter, aggroYed
by the Board of Directors
2007-03-29 Jeff Maxer and
Thomas Marano, Fixed
Income Overview
2007-04-21 Email from Ralgh
Cioffi to Gerald Cummins,
Matthew Tannin and John
Gessinger
2007-05 Funding and
Liquidity Package
2007-06-16 Email from Paul
Friedman re Old Lane
2007-06-24 Email from Tom
Marano to Warren Soector
2007-07-23 Memo from Bob
Ugton and Pat Lewis re:
Fundil}g & LiguidityPackaged
2007-08 Fitch Presentation
2007-08-15 Email from Paul
Friedman re Thornburg
2007-08-15 Email2 from Paul
Friedman re Thornburg
2007-08-15 Email from Tom
Morano to Lisa Anzalone
2007-09-18 Bear Stearns
Minutes of a Regular Meeting
of the Board of Directors
2007-12-12 The Bear Stearns
Comganies Inc. Minutes of
Sgecial Meeting of Board of
Directors
2008-0 1-08 Bear Stearns
Breakdown of Revenue from
John Paulson
2008-01-09 Emai I from David
Rawlings re Paulson Partners
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Risk Governance Diagnostic
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Weekly Mortgage Risk
2008-02-15 Email from Sam
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2008-02-20 Memo from Dan
Chen re Weekly Mortgage
Risk
2008-02-27 Email from Paul
Friedman re Non-Agency
AAA Financing for Non-IG
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2008-02-28 Email from Mary
Rose O'Kane to Mike Alix
2008-03-08 Email from Paul
Friedman re Thornburg
2008-03-09 Email from Paul
Friedman re Thornbuw
2008-03-12 Memo from Tom
Morano, Paul Friedman,
Wayne Buchman re
Thornburg Mortgage
Forbearance
2008-03-12 Email from Paul
Friedman to Tom Marano re:
Fixed Income
2008-03-12 Email from David
Rawlings to Alan Schwartz re
Client Calls
2008-03-13 Email from
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Eichel re: Bear Credit
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2008-03-13 Bear Stearns
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