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August 2, 1954
Internal Memorandum
Visit to the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis, July 20th through July 22nd.
The technique of handling a visitor from this Committee, which the
St. Louis Bank used, was so satisfactory from my point of view that it is worth
noting. There is about that bank an atmosphere of Southern courtesy which is
very soothing.

I had understood that I was going to see Mr. Deming, Vice Presi-

dent in charge of Research, but when I arrived and telephoned at 9s15 I w a s told
that Mr. Deming was on vacation and that Mr. Dale Lewis, also a Vice President,
would look after me. Mr* Lewis not only sent a bank car for me to the hotel,
but asked Mr. Clarence M. Stewart, Manager of the Little Eock Branch and an old
time employee of the Federal Reserve System, to take me in hand, Mr. Stewart
came to work at the bank on November 5, 1914* A tall, white-haired, cigar smoking,
lean and amiable person, he was full of small reminiscences of older days*

His

memory was keenest in regard to people and the mere sight of a photographed face
would remind him of a string of events. He was not so good when asked for events
or for periods, and it must be confessed that some time was wasted with him while
he tried to find small bits of memoranda and memorabilia which might have been what
I was looking for according to his idea of that*

Nevertheless, the process of having

someone who dates back to very early days and who can be appealed to for memory of
this and that is very useful.
Arriving at the bank I was welcomed with Mr. Lewis and introduced to Mr.
Johns the President. I was then taken to an officers1 meeting which convened at
10 a.m., seated at the President's right, and introduced to the officers there
present. After a short explanation of what Mr. Johns understood the project to
be about he asked me to speak to them and tell them in more detail. I talked for
about five minutes.




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This technique was very useful in that it gave the officers the same
understanding of what the Committee was trying to do. It saved a great deal of
time as the three days went on for I did not again have to repeat what the project
was about. Also from the point of view of the officers they all heard and presumably understood the same thing which should also have been useful.
After the officers1 meeting, Mr. Stewart telephoned to foraer Chairman
William McChesney Martin, Sr., whose assistant he had been, and invited him to come
to the bank for luncheon. The degree of warm personal affection and pride which
played a part in this operation was very nice to see. It was obvious that the two
men had known each other well and for many years and that there was mutual affection
between them.
It should be noted, although perhaps this is not the place, that this is
one of the few banks in which the first Chairman rather than the first Governor
played the important part*

The reason and more detail will be explained in the

interview with Mr. Martin.
The Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis has a good research department.
The head of that department under Mr. Deming is Mr. William Abbott. The librarian
is a young woman, Constance Pfaff, who has come in rather recently and who is very
quick and eager to understand the purposes of this Goiamittee. They gave me a better
picture of the research function of this bank than I have gotten of any bank.

I took

with me a questionnaire which was designed to find out what the bank had, (this questionnaire will have to be revised in October when Miss Burnett comes into the Committ e e ^ work) and a list of what was in the archival vault of the New York Bank. These
were simply for a trial run and they did little more than to indicate what our present
idea of archives is. Nevertheless, they were useful in stirring up interest and
questions.
I found that, as in so many banks, the filing system is under question.
Things do not seem to be clearly organised and Mr. Stewart was constantly going



here and there to try to ruffle through old files in order to find out what was
wanted, levertheless, Miss Peple had come down from the Board while Chester
Davis was head of the St. Louis bank to modernize the filing system and put it
in the subject file type.
Most of my time, outside of that spent with Mr* Stewart, was spent
with Mr. Abbott, Miss Pfaff and other members of the research department• On
the last day I still had so much to learn that I asked if a working luncheon
might be held of the chief research people. This was done and we talked at
length about the problems of this Cossmittee and the problem of writing a history
of the Federal Reserve Bank. Various names were brought forward, the most hopeful
of which was Ross Robertson who is on the staff of the St. Louis Bank in the research department. Robertson is about to publish an Economic History of the United
States from 1914 to the present time. The publisher is Harcourt, Brace• Further
inquiry should be made about this.
The last item on the St. Louis program was an interview with President
Johns. (See separate memorandum.)
This way of handling made a far more rounded visit than that in Chicago
where nobody seemed to have very much idea whom I wanted to see and where I was
allowed to drift from one elderly employee to another, all of whom had small
memories, but not important detail. In the future I think it might be well if
some form of outline could be sent politely to a bank before I go there so that
there will be a better preparation.
The only thing one can say, and this was said very much earlier in the
game, is that these introductory visits do give me a picture of the bank and the
bank a picture of the Goxsmittee's project far better than writing letters can do.
Each visit leaves me with a desire to go back and pick up loose threads. Each time
I have tried to establish sufficiently good relations with officers in the bank
so that a return visit would be welcomed*



It should also be noted that more preparation on my part is valuable.
Thus far I have not been able to read all the annual reports of all the banks •
Nevertheless, a closer attention to the main lines of growth and development
within the region as well as to the individuals whom I should probablj like to
see would be helpful. It is a close question how much one can ask for in advance
and there are times when it is well not to seem to know too much. An interview
which starts out of apparent ignorance sometimes goes better than one which starts
well primed with background information. Nevertheless, I continue to recoiamend
background information to isyself or to anybody else doing this particular kind of
job.

MAslk