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January 25, 1954
MR. ROBERT V. Roosa
Interview, 1/25/54

I talked with Mr. Roosa about the process of developing
files 'which w o l d be generally useful. I described to hi® the
classifications already contemplated, that is, the persons file, the
bibliography of unpublished material, chronology of events, and eventually a bibliography of published material, along "with a subject file
as yet unspecified*
He said that he did not think that a chronological file of
events only would be adequate as the early years, and even the later
development, contained a great deal of thinking i*hich showed on the
surface only at a later stage* He suggested that a loose subject file
could usefully be set up with perhaps some fifteen headings ^hioh
would attract material uhlch later on could be classified systematically •
Asked -what headings he would suggest, he said that in the
early years it was important to differentiate as between objectives and
techniques, as much thought went in both directions. The men "who
thotjght in terns of objectives were of two kindst

there were, on the

one hand, those ^who were trained in traditional banking ways and
thotight mostly in t e m s of establishing good credit; and, on the other
hand, those who consciously or unconsciously were groping towards new
mechanisms of control.
Of the men interested in techniques, some of them thoiaght in
terms of qualitative controls, such as tests of credit or economic
indicators as yet to be established. A large body of thought on the




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on the other hand* went into quantitative aspects and concerned itself
with definitions of good credit, etc*
A third step •was concerned with the development of selective
techniques as criteria for judging, for instance, consumer credit,
stock market credit, real estate credit* Under this heading would
come emphasis on instruments of control, standards of eligibility for
discount*
This latter field of thought is for the moment quiescent
but it occupied a. great deal of time at one period.
Discount rate would be another heading and with it discount
mechanisms.
Open market operations would have to be divided between
commercial paper which was important in earlier years and government
securities which occupy the field at the moment* There has been much
thought on two distinct purposes of these operations* Should they be
directed solely to affect bank reserves, or, second, should they be
directed to affect the credit structure?
In the early years, most of the men working in this field came
out of banking and were imbued with traditional banking training* They
were faJ&iliar with a series of panics in which money became tight and
hard to get* They thought that once a central reserve was set up and
ways arranged for it to move through the country, there should not be
a recurrence of the familiar panic financial stringency pattern. For
them inflation that followed World War I and the consequent depression
came as a considerable shock; for some reason they saw that the central




- 3 reserve plan was not working as they expected it would} and the problem, as they saw it, was to find the reason for this*
It was during this period that the concept of controls as
a purpose of the Federal Reserve System was forced on them and, in
part, by their academic critics• This concept was not popular among
the group of men who had already been attacked by people* who thoi^ght
the entire Federal Reserve idea wsocialistic•" The whole early period
was one of the development of central banking theory during the process
of practice im the field and against deep-seated prejudices of the
men >?ho were in charge.

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