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Hamlin, Charles S., Scrap Book — Volume 265, FRBoard Members




205.001 - HAmlin Charles S
Scrap Book - Volume 265
FRBoard Members

Form F. R. 131
1111

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

4110

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM

Office Correspondence
To

The Files

From

Mr. Coe

Date

August 12, 1941

Subject:

After correspondence with Mrs. Hamlin (see letters of May
25 and June 4, 1941) the items attached hereto and listed below,
because of their possible confidential character, were taken from
volume 265 of Mr. Hamlin's scrap book and placed in the Board's
files:
VOLUME 265
Page 4
Earnings and Expenses of F.R. Banks, October 1935.
Page 7
Preliminary memorandum on money market and credit conditions
for the Federal Open Market Committee, October 22, 1935.
Page 9
Report of the Open Market Operations to meeting of the Federal
Open Market Committee at Washington, D. C., October 22, 1935.
Page 15
Memo to Mr. Hamlin from Mr. Carpenter re Governors' Conference,
October 23, 1935.
Page 19
Business and Credit Conditions - Board of Governors of F.R. System,
Division of Research and Statistics - October 18, 1935.
Page -37
Memo to Mr. Hamlin from Mr. Owens re Authority of Senate Munitions
Committee to Subpoena Witnesses and Compel Production of
Documents.
Page 69
Letters to and from Governor Strong on appointment of Bank of
England as correspondent.
Page 81
(X-9360) Issuance of General Voting Permits.
Page 91
Memo to Mr. Hamlin from Mr. Smead re Section 13 of the F.R. Act.
Page 101
Memo on proposed request for information re large deposits.
Pare 1Q/
Letter to Chairman Eccles from J. H. Frost of Federal Advisory
Council.
Page 109
Memo to Mr. Hamlin from Mr. Carpenter attaching recommendations
submitted by the Federal Advisory Council.
Pape 129
Minutes of Governors' Conference, October 23, 1935.




Pow

C ONFIDENTIAL
Not for publication

B-811
EARNINGS AND EXPENSES/AF FEDERAL RESERVE BANKS, OCTOBER,

Current expenses

Earnings from Federal
Reserve
Bark

U. S.
IndusPurDisGovt.
counted chased trial
securities
bills advancee
bills

4110

1935

October

Month

1935

Commitments
to make
industrial
I advances

Other
sources

Total

Exclusive
of cost
of
F. RI
currency

Total

Current net
earnings
Rate on
paid-in
capital

Total

Per cent

Boston
New York
Philadelphia
Cleveland
Richmond
Atlanta
Chicago
St. Louis
Minneapolis
Kansas City
Dallas
Salikancisco

$918
9.059
395
176

$(394

4 5az
144.1

$155
5,059
1,261
5,726

$221,630
1,036,357
265,859
300,121

$164,302
603,223
188,644
220,642

$173,493
641,438
199,292
230,093

$48,137
394,919
66,567
70,028

1,318
226
869
2,091

1,999
2,612
18,841
5,541

178,409
131,082
465,137

131,876
106,185
246,082
119,072

141,005
115,722
269,756
128,729

37,404

9.6

15,360

4,3

195,381
21,435

19.1
6.8

120
1,320
500

461
14,392
1,043
5,058

119,486
160,175

1,967

108,385
138,831
114.400.1;3
2118„5a1

105,678
138,043
98,685
206,622

110,176
141,931
101,566
226,229

9,310
18,244
23,949
47.397

151,367

3,164,069

24,455
22,000

2,329,057
3,427,561
2,321,606
3,42e,259
2,362,839
4,074,792
36,034,032 23,516,500
41,014,208 23,831,591

2,479,430

948,131
968,040
1,573,403
11,305,777
16,308,349

$205,407

151,437

378
107
4
85

114i.6
1,441
346

-22,819
5,492
8,277
1,725

109
1,030
647
238

276

100:45
4,4kg

334
322
866

TOTAL
,376
1935 13,146
October
947
15,111
September 1935
55,60 13,235
1934
October
Jan. to Oct.1935135,876 33,975

974,681
231,602
282,775
122,199
435:705
140,376

969

62,148

95,437
3g,6o5
L691
16,917
1,178,642 33,674,674 190,335 820,530
3,445 1,025,988
23,524 38,634,809
19341,188,4 7! '37,950

BOARD OF GOVERZORS
OF THE FTDEAL RESEaVE SYSTEM
NaEWBER 12, 1935




6..
9.1
6.4
6.7

$2,375
8,752
357
1,558

$11,881
34,219
31,014
8,710

137,034

3,157,722
3,888,784

150,164

125,515
273,626

2,460,219
2.501,389
24,726,255

24,705,859

January - October 1935
.
net
Current
earnings
Less accrued
Rate on
dividends and
net charges
paid-in
Total
capital
(current) to
profit and
loss*
Per cent
6.3
$42,859
$552,130
2,307,640
4,700,200
9.7

600,563
765,571

4.9
7.1

392,319
299,969
2:399,637

9.5

141,761

349,988

8.2
22.7
10.6

155:SU7
1,925,461
159,688

3.7
5.5
7.4
5.5

185,114
238,805
298,558
522,923

7.1
7.1
9.
5.9

5,725
45,875
127,012
48,982

8.6
8.7
12.6
9.4
13.4

11,305,777
16,306,349

9.4
13.4

4,967,895
10,061,482

-137,357
94,362

G-4

*Exclusive of profits of 14,722,227 on sales of United States Government securities held in Special Investment* Account.

VOLUME 265
PAGE 4

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CONFIDENTIAL

PRELIMINARY MEMORANDUM ON MONEY MARKET AND CREDIT CONDITIONS
FOR THE FEDERAL OPEN MARKET COtSMEE,
OCTOBER 22, 1935.
Excess Reserves and Federal Reserve Policy

Five months have passed since the last meeting of the Federal Open Market
Committee when we discussed Federal Reserve policy with particular reference to the
question of excess reserves.

During this period the System holdings of government

securities and total Reserve Bank credit outstanding have remained virtually unchanged, but excess reserves have increased from $2,180,000,000 on March 6 to
2,910,000,000 on October 16.

This increase has been due mainly to further gold

inflow, and to a less extent to Treasury disbursements of free gold and an increase
in silver certificates in

excess

of retirements of national bank notes.

In attempting to reappraise our policy with respect to excess reserves
at the present time, we must find answers to two questions.
is there that our present policy is having desirable results?

First, what evidence
Second, what dangers

are there that a continuance of the present policy may have undesirable results?
Having answered these questions, we shall be in a better position to consider
whether and when and in what ways our policy might wisely be changed.
As stated in a memorandum presented at a meeting of the Ekecutive
Committee on April 17, the theory of creating excess reserves was that in a depression, when the capacity and willingness of banks to lend and of private enterprise to borrow have been impaired, excess reserves would put pressure on the )
banks to buy government securities, thus forcing down the yield on these securities
to the point where bank and other investment funds would flow over into private
capital investment.

The signs then discernible that this pressure had begun to

work have since become clearer.

One very favorable indication is the progress

of the government war debt conversion program, which has now been entirely completed.
There have been converted over "8,000,000,000 of bonds into bonds and long-term




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notes at a saving of over 1-;) on the bonds and more on the notes.

Probably the

chief financial development of the last seven months has been the appearance in
large volume of private refunding issues bearing interest rate reductions of from
1% to 1 3/4%.

During the seven months period ended with September, over

$1,300,000,000 of domestic corporate refunding operations were conducted.

In

addition, there was $750,000,000 of state, municipal, and farm loan refunding, exclusive of government guaranteed issues.

This is evidence that the reduction of

yields on short-time investments and on government securities is having its expected effect upon the yields of corporate end other bonds.
In this period, also, the signs of business revival have become clearer.
Perhaps the best evidence is that the decline this year from the spring peak of
business activity was markedly less than in any year since the depression began,
and was arrested earlier than is usual.

From the high point of January, general

business activity lost by May only about 25% of the previous advance, since which
time the index of production has tended moderately upward.

In the three preceding

wave movements since the bottom of the depression in 1932, from two-thirds to
100% of each upward movement was lost in the subsequent decline.

At present it

appears that a number of consumer goods industries are nearly back to their predepression level.

The automobile industry has made a notable recovery, although

at the moment production is low owing to the early introduction of new models.
The heavy goods industries still remain the center of the depression but steel
production has now recovered to 50% of capacity and machine tool orders recently
have made the best showing since 1929, although they have declined somewhat in the
last two months.
There is thus some fairly clear evidence both in interest rates and. in
the state of business that our long-continued policy of easy money and excess reserves is having the desired results.




To what extent these results should be

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ascribed primarily to credit policy or to other factors is now, as always,
problematical.

Doubtless, the long duration of depression and the consequent

wearout and obsolescence of durable goods has been an important, and perhaps the
chief, factor in recovery.

Also, the strengthening of the capital structure of the

banking system undoubtedly played a large part in stopping the cumulative processes
of hoarding and deflation.

Another important factor has been the rise of agri-

cultural prices and the consequent increase of farm income.

Another factor in all

probability, though this has been a much debated question, has been the government
spending program.

But there can be no doubt that the presence of large excess

reserves has played a fundamental role, not only in financing governmental expenditures but also in paving the way for the revival of private capital investment.
As the process continues, we should expect to see its effects in further
expansion of bank deposits and bank assets.

Already the expansion of bank deposits

has proceeded at a pace that has been exceeded only during the World War.

Net

demand deposits of weekly reporting member banks (91 cities) have increased by
$6,400,000,000 since March 1933, and $1,400,000,000 of this increase has occurred
in the past seven months.

The total of net demand and time deposits of these

banks, exclusive of government deposits, now amount to more than $20,000,000,000
and exceed the pre-depression level.

Time deposits remain substantially smaller

than in 1929-1930, and demand deposits in "country" member banks (which are not
largely represented in the weekly reporting member banks) are still considerably
below 1928-1929 levels, but have shown a rate of expansion during the past year

1)
nearly as rapid as in the city banks.

On the other hand, loans and investments

of the reporting member banks have made a more moderate recovery, amounting to

(1) The latest figures of deposits of all banks in the country are for
December 31, 1934, when the total was $44,800,000,000, exclusive of
interbank deposits. This is the highest since the December 1931
call. The peak of deposits of all banks was approximately
$56,800,000,000.




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$3,315,000,000 (October 9) since March 1933.

This change has resulted from an

increase of $4,153,000,000 in bank holdings of U. S. government securities, including government guaranteed securities, accompanied by a decline of
loans, and little change in securities other than governments.

807,000,000 in

Since last March

total loans and investments of banks have shown a net increase of $581,000,000.
Loans on securities have decreased moderately to the lowest levels of recent years,
and all other loans are little changed for the period, a seasonal increase of
$200,000,000 in the last two months having offset an earlier decline.

On the

other hand, an increase of $801,000,000 has occurred in bank investments, of
which government securities have accounted for682,000,000.
These figures indicate, first, that our easy money policy and the monetary
and fiscal policy of the government have been followed by an extraordinary expansion of bank deposits, which thus far has come primarily from expansion of bank
investments in government securities and from heavy gold inflow (and in the first
few months after the bank holiday from return of currency from hoarding);

and

second, that in the aggregate the recovery of private business has thus far not
been financed by private borrowing from banks.

It is not unusual in an early stage

of recovery from depression for business expansion to be financed out of corporate
funds previously idle or invested outside the business.

In this connection, re-

funding issues themselves become a source of funds available for further production,
in so far as they release earnings which might otherwise have to be set aside to
pay off or reduce maturing capital issues.

But this phase of recovery is usually

preliminary to borrowing of new money, and before we can accept present indications
as conclusive evidence that business revival is firmly established, we must look
for an increase both in bank assets other than government securities and in new
corporate issues.

It is especially important, during this recovery, to watch for

these developments because, in the present instance, government borrowing and




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spending are undoubtedly supplying an important part of the funds which industry
is using, and the transon from public to private spending, as recovery proceeds,
should be indicated by a transon from government security flotations to new
corporate issues and private borrowing from banks.
This brief review of the business and finannial situation appears to indicate that our credit policy is now being accompanied, quite definitely, by
desirable developments.

What are the dangers which may arise from a continuance

of this policy, and what are the sign IS

which should tell us when and how to

change it?
There are two possible dangers from a continuance of our present policy.
The first is inflation arising from expansion of public credit through
nued financing by the banks of government budgetary deficits.
inflation arising from expansion of private crPdit.

eSc

The second is

The first danger is that with

whicS we were primarily concerned in the memorandum presented last April.

As was

then indicated, there is an important difference between the effects of pressure
of excess tank reserves against a fixed total of government debt and this same
pressure when exerted against a continuously increasing volume of public debt.

In

the latter case, there is danger that the overflow of bank funds into private
channels may not occur, that the banks will become more and more heavily loaded
with government securities, and the government do a larger and larger part of the
nation's borrowing and spending.

In the experience of other nations a long-

continued process of governmental deficit financing through the banking system has
always led at same point to rapidly rising prices, either through actual monetary
expansion or through fear of potential expansion, and at this point the process
has always become cumulatively uncontrollable, government deficits rising by reason
of the rise 5f prices and the lag of revenue 5ehind expenditures, the whole process




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being attended by grave economic and political disruption and disorder terminating
in collapse.
The continuance of our present policy, as was pointed out in the earlier
memorandum, rests upon the assumption that this danger can be avoided.

There is

an important economic difference between budgetary deficits arising from extraordinary expenditures of a compelling nature, such as the financing of a war or huge
indemnity payments, and budgetary deficits resulting from depression.

There is a

definite economic basis for the theory that in the latter case a reversal of the
forces which in depression produce the deficits should in recovery correct them,
for as recovery proceeds the need for extraordinary government expenditure should
be reduced and government revenue should be increased through the reemployment of
the factors of production.

But, on the other hand, it would be both naive and dan-

gerous to suppose that the process is self-operative, and that recovery will now
automatically correct the budgetary deficit.

If the basis of our present policy

of continuance of large excess reserves is correct, namely, that recovery from
depression affords an opportunity for transition from public to private spending
but that failure to seize this opportunity at the proper time can have only harmful
results, it will be necessary from this time forward to keep a close watch upon the
course of government revenue and expenditure.
The threat of uncontrollable government inflation now appears to be less
than it did to many observers last winter.

This is true not only because the re-

covery appears really to be under way, but also because the deficits themselves
are proving to be considerably less than was feared six months or a year ago.

The

actual deficit for the past fiscal year was $3,575,000,000, including $574,000,000
of sinking fund, as compared with the official estimate of $4,869,000,000.

Though

the original estimate was doubtless overstated deliberately, the decrease has been
due also to the increase of revenue and to the lag of actual expenditure behind the




It has been easier to appropriate money than to devise the means of

estimates.
spending it;

the result is that expenditures are still being made to a large ex-

tent out of appropriations from the preceding fiscal year and actual expenditures
continue to run behind the estimates.

In the past 3 months, actual net expenditures

have averaged $275,000,000 a month as against the first official estimate for this
fiscal year's deficit of $4,529,000,000 which has been revised to $3,282,000,000
iI the President's recent budget message.

There is also same recent evidence of

a desire on the part of the Administration to control extraordinary expendituresl
It would be unsafe, however, to assume that the government's spending
program will dry up from either lack of desire or lack of ability to find ways to
spend the money.

There are still sone 19,000,000 people on relief, there is the

$4,800,000,000 appropriated by the last Congress, there is every indication of a
renewed drive in the next session of Congress for a bonus law which, if enacted,
would probably add some $2,000,000,000 of extraordinary expenditure, and a
Presidential election is approaching.

Probably the most serious problem now bear-

ing upon our policy regarding excess reserves arises from the contemplation of
these actual and potential extraordinary appropriations.
effect upon the business recovery which is now under way?

What will be their
If business confidence

is not shaken and if the banks continue to absorb government securities, public
spending on such a scale as this might well impart an undue stimulus to business
activity.

It is not impossible that we might find ourselves, much sooner than we

now think, facing our second danger,that of undue private business and credit expansion.

On the other hand, if such a program of public spending, particularly if

the bonus is added, should shake business confidence and impair the ability or
!willingness of the market to absorb government sncurities, we might find ourselves facing the first danger outlined abovc,, pure governmental inflation.




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The possibilities which have been discussed do not, however, appear to
necesitate as yet any change in our policy regarding excess reserves.

They merely

raise questions for the future and indicate what factors in the current situation
should be most closely watched.

If this really is the beginning of a genuine re-

covery, it ought to mean that steps will be taken looking toward, not an immediate
balancing of the budget, but some fairly definite schedule of tapering off extraordinary expenditures,the speed with which that is done depending upon the progress
of recovery.

It may well be that we shall have a permanent problem of relief as

England has.

The very fact that relief has been organized on a national scale may

mean that unemployables previously taken care of informally and privately will become permanently a charge upon the public budget.

Passage of the social security

legislation, which is desirable in principle, almost certainly means a permanent
increase in relief expenditures as compared with the pre-depression period.

But the

important considerations should be that such expenditures should be kept down to the
adequate minimum, and above all that they should be made to find their place in a
balanced budget.
If, as recovery proceeds, the effective steps are not taken toward budget
balancing, there would certainly be ground for questioning whether the Reserve
System is justified in continuing its present policy with respect to its security
portfolio and excess reserves.

We need not stop to consider anew the difficulties

of making a reversal of our policy effective under such circumstances.

Some of them

have already been discussed in the earlier memorandum, such as the Stabilization
Fund and the powers granted in the Thomas Amendment, whereby the Administration
could easily override our efforts if it chose to do so.

There is the further very

practical difficulty that if we should attempt to sell our securities to the
market, which at the same time was being offered new government issues to finance
budgetary deficits, the result might be such an impairment of the market as might




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not only give a severe setback to business recovery but force the government along
the road toward inconvertible currency inflation, which so far it has avoided.

The

mere mention of these possibilities indicates how indispensable it is for the
Reserve System and the Administration to cooperate in the formulation of a program
best suited to recovery and to the transition from public to private spending which
should accompany recovery.
If matters proceed satisfactorily in this regard, the larger question for
the future will be the relation of our policy to the progress of business recovery.
There is the very definite possibility that private credit expansion, once it gets
under way, may be difficult to hold within wholesome bounds.

Total reserves are

now more than double required reserves and interest rates are unprecedentedly low.
As has frequently been pointed out in our earlier discussions, we ought not to allow
our fears as to how we are to control credit expansion in the future to obscure our
realization that in some form and to some extent such expansion is not only inevitable but desirable if we are to have a genuine and complete recovery.

What the

Reserve System ought now to be considering very seriously is both the methods whereby credit expansion is to be controlled in the future and the timing of this program
of control.

One previous source of rapid credit expansion peculiarly difficult to

control, stock exchange speculation, has received special attention during the
depression, and it seems probable that the new powers of the Board of Governors of
the Federal Reserve System and of the Securities Exchange Commission to govern not
only the supply of such credit,but what is perhaps even more important to regulate
the
demand for it, will put us in a stronger position in this respect than ever before,
particularly as the "loans for the account of others," which were so serious a problem in 192?-29, are now forbidden by law.

But it seems inevitable that with excess

reserves of such magnitude, undue credit expansion will sooner or later get under




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d.
way through one channel or another unless appropriately controlle

This is not

and business
the place to examine in any detail the criteria by which undue credit
expansion can be recognized.
question.

That is a most difficult and a highly controversial

It will probably not become a pressing question until the heavy goods

to
industries have recovered and the general index of production has returned
normal.

At the present time the

Board index stands at 89 as compared with

58 at the bottom of the depression in July, 1932,and with 119 in 1929.

Building

n 28%
contracts are still 71% below estimated normal, and steel ingot productio
below.
The more pressing question is that of the nature of the control program.
We have the following major instruments of control:

power to alter reserve re-

quirements, discount rates, open market operations, and powers of "direct control"
against stock market use of credit.

In what order should these powers be used if

and when control becomes essential?

This is a question of very great magnitude

which cannot be discussed fully within the scope of the present memorandum, which
a
is addressed mainly to the question whether there is any immediate ground for
change in our credit policy.
But there is a direct connection between this question of the order in
which the instruments of control should be used and the question of our attitude
toward the continued growth of excess reserves.

During the past two years it has

been repeatedly pointed out that excess reserves have gone on increasing, very
rapidly and very substantially, not as a result of open market operations or of any
deliberate policy of the Federal Reserve System, but in response to recurring inflows of gold following upon devaluation of the dollar.

At the time. of the passage

of the Gold Reserve Act in January,1934, excess reserves, mainly as the result of
open market operations, were $800,000,000;




they are now $2,900,000,000.

Grantinc

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that it has been the Federal Reserve policy ever since February 1932 to maintain
pressure for credit expansion through excess reserves, no one supposes that the
System would have deliberately created any such volume of reserves as now exists;
and the question has been repeatedly raised whether, granting the desirability of
large excess reserves, it is desirable to permit them to accumulate indefinitely.
It may well be asked whether, at some point, we should not intervene, not to prevent credit expansion but merely to prevent further accumulation of superfluous
reserves which will only add to the difficulties of credit control when the time
for it arrives?
This question, which is surely very pertinent, reveals the extraordinary
nature of our current situation which is without precedent in central banking
history.

If a central bank creates reserves by open market operations, it can con-

tract them by the same method.

But today excess reserves owe their origin, in the

main, not to open market operations but to the modification of our monetary standard.
So long as gold continues to flow in on such a scale as this year and last, we
could not hope to eliminate excess reserves by open market operations alone.

As a

practical matter, the most that we could do through the sale of government securities
would be to reduce them in part and thus psychologically to check their use in
credit expansion.

It is partly because we fear that the sale of securities at this

time would have such a result now when expansion is still necessary for business recovery

that we have continued in our present policy.

If, on the other hand, a

reversal of our open market position did not prevent credit expansion now, our
sales would only weaken our power to control such expansion later.
In these circumstances it seems not unlikely that the first step in control may have to be the raising of reserve requirements.

Must we not recognize that

the modification of our monetary standard in January, 1934, carried with it as one




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CONFIDENTIAL

REPORT OF OPEN MARKET OPERATIONS
OF THE FEDERAL OPEN MARKET COMMITTEE
MEETING
TO
AT WASHINGTON, D. C., OCTOBER 22, 1935

The present holdings of Government securities in the System Special
Investment Account remain practically unchanged at

$2,223,149,000.

Transactions since May 27, the date of the last meeting of the Federal
Open Market Committee, were as follows:




(1) Redemption at maturity of
$374,274,000 miscellaneous Treasury bills
replaced by purchases in the market as follows:
$245,104,000
3,000,000
310,000
10,250,000
1,100,000
900,000
600,000
23,950,000
11,650,000
75,060,000
250,000
2,000,000
100,000

Miscellaneous Treasury bills
3
% T/N due 2/15/37
3 1/4% " " 9/15/37
11
2 5/8% 11
2/ 1/38
11
3/15/38
3
%
11
2 7/8% 11
6/15/38
11
11
9/15/38
2 1/2%
11
3/15/39
1 1/2%
ft
6/15/39
2 1/9
11
ft
12/15/39
1 3/8%
3 1/4')o Tr. Bds. 1944-46
3
%
1946-48
"
ft
11
1946-49
3 1/8% "

The purchases of $2,350,000 of Treasury bonds
included above were made during a period of weakness in the market following the first sale of
bonds by auction on May 27.
The purchases of $23,950,000 - 1 1/2 per cept
Treasury notes due March 15, 1939, dated
September 16, 1935, were made in accordance with
the agreement of the executive committee to buy
up to $50,000,000 of this issue in addition to
the amount purchased to replace fourth-called
Fourth 4 1/4 per cent Liberty bonds.
The other replacements of bills by notes were
made largely at times when Treasury bill6 were
not available in the market or when the note
market was weak.




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(2)

Redemption at maturity of
$24,645,450 - 2% Consols called 7/1/35
1,468,800 - 2% Panamas (1936) called 8/1/35
8/1/35
"
(1938)
519,160 - 2% "
replaced by purchases in the market as follows:
$10,722,000
2,000,000
7,045,000
600,000
6,265,900

(3)

-

Miscellaneous Treasury bills
% T/N due 2/15/37
3
3
% " " 4/15/37
3 1/4% " " 9/15/37
1 3/8% " " 12/15/39

Conversions under Treasury offering dated June 10 as follows:
$62,909,900 - 3
% T/N due 6/15/35
74,223,300 - 1 5/8% " " 8/ 1/35
for 137,133,200 - 1 1/2%

(4)

fl

6/15/40

Exchanges in the market as follows:
(a) In anticipation of maturity of

for

$31,085,000
11,500,000
40,401,000
5,000,000
2,500,000
947,000

-

3
5i) T/N due 6/15/35
1 5/8% " " 8/ 1/35
4th 4 1/4's called 10/15/35
2 1/2% T/N due 12/15/35
2 7/8% "
4/15/36
1 ],/e;',
6/15/36

47,032,000
2,000,000
2,000,000
40,401,000

-

Miscellaneous Treasury bills
3
% T/N due 2/15/37
3 1/4% " "
9/15/37
1 1/2% ft
3/15/39

In accordance with the agreement of the executive committee on August 29 to exchange the 4th
4 1/4's in the Account for notes rather than for
bonds should the Treasury make an optional offering, total holdings of $40,401,000 of the Fourths
were exchanged in the market for the 1 1/2 per
cent notes as reflected above. This exchange was
effected in the market rather than directly with
the Treasury owing to the provision of the Banking
Act of 1935 requiring all purchases and sales to
be made in the open market, the precise interpretation of which there had not been opportunity to
discuss fully.




•
3

(b)

In accordance with the agreement of the executive committee to purchase up to $50,000,000
of the new issue of 1 1/2 per cent notes due
March 15, 1939, dated September 16, 1935,
against corresponding reductions in other holdings, $23,300,000 of the new issue was purchased in the market against sales in the market
as follows:
$8,000,000
1,700,000
600,000
1,000,000
3,500,000
3,250,000
5,250,000

-

Miscellaneous Treasury bills
3 1/4% T/N due 9/15/37
3/15/38
%
3
ft
9/15/38
2 1/2%
6/15/39
2 1/8%
12/15/39
1 3/8%
U
6/15/40
1 1/2%

Together with $23,950,000 of the new note
issue acquired as Treasury bill replacements
(noted in paragraph 1) purchases under this
authorization amounted to $47,250,000.

(c)

To improve the maturity distribution in the
Account, as follows:
Miscellaneous Treasury bills
1 1/2% T/N due 9/15/36
et 12/15/36
2 3/4% "
,t
t?
e
4/15/37
3
/0
,I
9/15/37
3 1/4%
tt
3/15/38
3
%
ft
9/15/38
2 1/2% ft
It
3/15/39
1 1/2%
It
6/15/39
2 1/8% It
It 12/15/39
1 3/8%
el
3/15/40
1 5/8%
it
it
6/15/40
1 1/2%
3 1/8% Tr. Bds.1946-49
tt 1951-55
gt
3
%
ft
1943-45
3 1/4%
tt
1944-46
3 1/4%
et
1946-48
3
%

$28,565,000
5,000,000
6,500,000
6,400,000
2,000,000
5,000,000
5,000,000
5,000,000
18,700,000
1,000,000
6,500,000
10,000,000
100,000
1,350,000
3,500,000
6,000,000
1,300,000
for

78,165,000
1,500,000
12,500,000
7,500,000
500,000
11,750,000

-

Miscellaneous Treasury bills
% T/N due 2/15/37
3
6/15/39
2 1/8% " "
3/15/40
1 5/8%
3 3/8% Tr. Bds. 1941-43
1945-47
2 3/4% " "

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4

$40,600,000 of the above purchases of
Treasury bills were made within the past
few weeks in exchange principally for
four and five-year Treasury note maturities in an effort to partly restore to
former levels the proportion of holdings
in the Account maturing within two years
which it has been increasingly difficult
to maintain in the face of recent largescale refunding by the Treasury of shortterm debt into longer maturities. The
extent of this operation by the Treasury
is reflected in Exhibit "G" attached.

(5)

Transfers of participation within the Account in accordance with the agreement at the meeting of the Federal
Open Market Committee on May 27 with respect to the
distribution of holdings of government securities among
the banks, as follows:
$ 5,000,000
3,153,000
5,000,000
10,000,000
5,000,000

- to Minneapolis from Chicago
vt
- " Richmond
ft
PT
VT
Cleveland
TV
TV
TI
Philadelphia
ft
H
It
Dallas

On August 5, transfer of $5,000,000 participation
from New York to Dallas was made, reversing transaction of last April 30 when New York took over this
amount from Dallas to aid their reserve position.
Owing to subsequent decline in reserve ratio, this
$5,000,000 participation was transferred back to
New York on September 4.
As a net result of the transactions since May 22, the amount of holdings
in the Account maturing within two years was reduced by $285,570,000.

As a par-

tial offset to these transactions, however, a net of $85,660,000 of other issues
moved into the two-year classification since May 22, and the actual reduction in
two-year maturities amounted to only t199,910,000, which figure may be considered
the amount of net shifts under the authority of meeting of the Federal Open Market
Committee on May 27 to make shifts between maturities up to $250,000,000.

It has

not been necessary to make use of the authority obtained informally by letter to
make additional shifts between maturities up to $100,000,000 beyond the original
authorization of $250,000,000.




5
Profit realized on sales of government securities in the System Account
this year to October 16 amounts to $4,647,393.85.

Each bank's pro rata share in

this profit as held in Suspense Account on that date was as follows:
Boston
New York
Philadelphia
Cleveland
Richmond
Atlanta

$ 328,161.77
1,314,361.98
351,612.52
450,058.27
236,213.09
196,937.96

Chicago
St. Louis
Minneapolis
Kansas City
Dallas
San Francisco

$

670,344.74
221,127.65
133,691.58
215,806.38
134,802.31
394,275.60

There were no operations in bankers acceptances for System Account during
the period May 22 - October 16.




Attached to this report are the following exhibits:
rA" - Maturity distribution of holdings of government securities
in System Account at the end of each month 1932, 1933, 1934
and 1935 to October 16, and net changes since May 22, 1935.
- Classification of issues held in the System Account on
May 22 and October 16 and net changes by issues during
this period.
It CIT

- (1) Participation by Federal Reserve banks in System Special
Investment Account and (2) total holdings of government
securities by Federal Reserve banks close of business October
16 and the amount of (1) and (2) over or short of pro rata
ehare based on ratio of each bank's expenses, dividends and
charge-offs for 1934 to total for the System.

11Dtt

- (1) Participation by Federal Reserve banks in System Special
Investment Account and (2) total holdings of government
securities by Federal Reserve banks close of business October
16, 1935 and the amount of (1) and (2) over or short of pro
rata share based on ratio of reserves in excess of amount
required for a 55% ratio.

11E11

- Earnings of all Federal Reserve banks for the nine months
ended September 30, 1935, and estimated annual rate of earnings of all Federal Reserve banks on basis of government
security portfolio as of October 15.

"F" - Chart showing average earning rate on holdings of United
States Government securities in System Special Investment
Account and average yield on outstanding Treasury bonds and
Treasury notes, 1934 and 1935 to October 16.
- Interest bearing public debt and System Account holdings
maturing within one year and from one to two years on
May 22 and October 16, 1935.

MATURITY DIS'ERIBUTION OF HOLDINGS IN YSTal- AC COUNT
D OF EACH MONTH (In millions of dollars)
A.thin
Six
Months
$165
191
299
583
716
744
733
622
606
651
765
779

1932
Jan.
Feb.
Mar.
Apr.
May
June
July
Aug.
Sept.
Oct.
Nov.
Dec.
1933
644
Jan.
577
Feb.
709
Mar.
570
Apr.
May
543
June
656
July
659
621
Aug.
706
Sept.
860(A)
Oct.
845(A)
Nov.
887(A)
Dec.
1934
Jan.
887(A)
Feb.
987(A)
799(A)
Mar.
730(A)
Apr.
717(A)
May
June
765(A)
732(A)
July
705(A)
Aug.
Sept.
654
Oct.
749(A)
Nov.
752(A)
Dec.
794(A)
1935
Ian.
790(A)
Feb.
863(A)
Mar.
747(C)
Apr.
727(D)
May
584(E)
June
525(E)
July
494(E)
Aug.
454(k)
Sept.
425
Oct.16 566
Net Change
since,
•••••

(A)
(B)
(C)
(D)
)
)

p

Includes
Does not
Includes
Includes
Includes
Does not




'iithin
Per One
cenlYear
29 $ 355
375
32
475
44
778
57
51 1,058
48 1,106
45 1,098
38 1,029
998
37
40 1,051
47 1,046
48 1,021

3-5
ithin
Per- Years
Pr-1 Two
centlYears cent Inc.
63$ 355 63 $ 375 64
641
69!
475 69
779 76
76
75 1,115 79
64
71 1,173 75
67 1,167 71 132
63 1,194 73 110
61 1,170 71 134
75
64 1,229 75
77
64 1,227 75
62 1,203 73 101

'CallPer- able
cent Bonds
- $212
212
212
239
290
4
322
336
8
6
336
336
8
336
4
4
336
336
6

E.-yailBIT

"A"

I
Per- Other Peri
cent Bonds cent Totals
567
37 $ 587
36
687
31
1,018
24
1,405
21
1,559
21
1
21
-,635
1,640
21
1,640
21
1,640
21
1,640
21
1,640
21

41
36
44
35
32
37
36
32
34
39
43
40

903
856
856
725
823
879
903
1,025
1,102
1,257
1,235
1,216

58
53
53
45
49
49
50
53
53
57
56
55

1,107 71
1,090 67
1,090 67
958 59
962 57
1,117 62
1,143 63
1,191 62
1,278 62
1,443 .66
1,435 65
1,426 64

116
203
203
335
384
335
341
394
452
498(B)
511(B)
520(B)

7
12
12
20
23
19
19
21
22
23
23
24

336
336
336
336
336
336
336
336
336
252
252
252

22
21
21
21
20
19
18
17
16
11
11
11

25
25

1
1

1,559
1,629
1,629
1,629
1,692
1,738
1,820
1,921
2,066
2,193
2,223
2,223

40
44
36
33
32
34
33
32
29
34
34
36

1,216
1,190
1,034
1,008
991
972
939
1,018
868
964
968
953

55
54
47
45
44
44
42
46
39
43
43
43

1,426
1,415
1,287
1,476
1,475
1,354
1,321
1,365
1,258
1,342
1,349
1,405

64
64
52
67
66
61
59
61
56
60
60
63

520(B)
531(B)
659(B)
488(B)
489(B)
550(E)
583(B)
539(B)
646(B)
647(B)
640(B)
584(B)

24
24
30
21
22
24
26
24
29
29
29
26

252
252
252
195
195
195
195
195
195
110
110
110

11
11
11
9
9
9
9
9
9
5
5
5

25
25
25
64
64
124
124
124
124
124
/24
124

1
1
1
3
3
6
6
6
6
6
6
6

2,223
2,223
2,223
2,223
2,223
2,223
2,223
2,223
2,223
2,223
2,223
2,223

35
39
33
33
26
23
22
20
19
25

950
950
889
1,087
976
887
829
856
850
874

43
43
40
49
44
40
37
38
38
39i

1,394
1,460
1,379
1,524
1,416
1,281
1,233
1,181
1,193
1,213

62 595(B)
65 529(B)
62 603(B)
69 519
64 615
58 748
55 796(F)
53 848(F)
53 836(F)
54 816

27
24
27
23
27
33
36
38
38
37

110
110
56
0
0
0
0
0
0
0

5
5
3
0
0
0
0
0
0
0

124
124
185
180
192
194
194
194
194
194

6
6
8
8
9
9
9
9
9
9

2,223
2,223
2,223
2,223
2,223
2,223
2,223
2,223
2,223
2,223

-200

t-216

-102

o

-16

Fourth Liberties "called"
include Fourth Liberties "uncalled". maturing October 1938.
First Liberties, Panama's and Consols "called"
First and Fourth Liberties, Panama's and Consols "called"
Fourth Liberties and Panarp,a's "called" „
include 3 3/9% T. B. 1940/43, callable 6/15/40

0

•

•

•

EXHIBIT "B"
CLASSIFICATION OF ISSUES HELD IN THE SYSTEM ACCOUNT ON MAY 22 AND uCTOBFE 16, 1935
AND NET CHANGES BY ISSUES DURING THIS PERIOD
(000 Omitted)
Holdings
May 22
Total Holdings of
Treasury Bills

$

TREASURY NOTRS
3
% Treas.Notes due June 15, 1935
IT
If
Aug. 1, 1935
1 5/8%
ft
11
Dec. 15, 1935
2 1/2%
it
it
Apr. 15, 1936
2 7/8%
it
ft
June 15, 1936
1 1/8%
it
I?
Aug. 1, 1936
3 1/4%
ft
tt
Sept.15, 1936
1 1/2%
ff
TT
Dec. 15, 1936
2 3/4%
It
It
ii
Feb. 15, 1937
3
It
ft
Apr. 15, 1937
3
II
tt
ft
Sept.15, 1937
3 1/4%
tf
IT
it
Feb. 1, 1938
2 5/8%
tt
Mar. 15, 1938
3
It
June 15, 1938
2 7/8%
11
it
it
Sept.15, 1938
2 1/2%
It
IT
Mar. 15, 1939
1 1/2%
ft
June 15, 1939
2 1/8%
it
it
Dec. 15, 1939
1 3/8%
it
it
if
Mar. 15, 1940
1 5/8%
ft
it
June 15, 1940
11/2%
TOTALS
LTBERTY LOAN AND TREASURY BONDS
4 1/4% 4th L/L Bds.called 10/15/35
3 1/4% Treasury Bonds of 1941
3 3/8%
"
" 1940-43
3 3/8%
" 1941-43
3 1/4%
" 1943-45
3 1/4%
" 1944-46
it 1943-47
3 3/8%
ft
It
tt
1945-47
2 3/4%
it
3
%
1946-48
tt
it 1949-52
3 1/8%
ft
3
%
1951-55
2 7/8%
" 1955-60
2
% Consols 1930 called 7/1/35
ff
2
% Panamas 1936
8/1/35
it
2
%
1938
8/1/35

Holdings
Oct. 16

525,235 $

93,995
85,723
67,621
136,886
50,000
79,042
58,957
98,868
65,685
84,175
84,750
60,205
97,099
65,924
81,981

128,375

$1,420,781 $1,533,281

$

40,401 $
42,700
2,000
2,000
25,000
39,000
3,000
40,000
2,015
1,350
53,034
24,645
1,469
519

93,995
85,723
5,000
2,500
947
5,000
6,500
10,000
2,645
790
10,250
2,250
8,400
5,150
82,651
6,450
77,076
1,000
121,883
$112,500 Net

$40,401
44,300
2,400
4,500
21,500
33,250
3,000
11,750
40,700
2,015
31,034

TOTALS

277,133

194,449

GRAND TOTALS

$2,223,149

$2,223,149




Decrease
$29,816 Net

495,419 $

62,621
134,386
49,053
79,042
53,967
92,368
75,685
86,820
83,960
70,455
94,849
74,324
76,831
82,651
87,935
77,076
129,375
121,883

81,485

Increase

1,500
400
2,500
3,500
5,750
11,750
700
1,350
22,000
24,645
1,469
519
$82,684 Net

IDENDS AND CHARGE-OFFS FOR 1934 TO THE Torr:J, FOR THE SYSTEM
(000 Omitted)

Participations in
System
Account
(4-0

411

Ratio of
Holdings
in
System
Account
(B)

Ratio of
Expenses,
Dividends &
Charge-offs
Year 1934
(C)

Participations
(+) Over or
(1-) Short of
Pro Rata
Share Based
on Ratios
in Col. C
(D)

Total Holdings
(Portfolio and
Participation
in
System
Ac ount)(E

Ratio of
Total
Holdings
(F)

Total Holdings
(+) Over or
(-) Short of
Pro Rata Share
Based on Ratios
in Col. C
(G)
6,205-

157,677

6.49%

164-

742,614

30.59%

62,807+

%

26,349-

177,120

7.29%

41,389-

9.81%

9 3/4%

1,267+

218,024

8.98%

18,694-

116,715

5.25%

5 1/4%

116,716

4.81%

10,748-

Atlanta

94,209

4.24%

4

Chicago

292,948

St. Louis

6 3/4%

156,982

7.06%

New York

622,318

27.99%

28

%

Philadelphia

173,734

7.81%

9

Cleveland

218,024

Richmond

Boston

.i;

3

6,919+

0

iP

3

%

5,283+

94,213

3.88%

2,902-

13.18%

11 1/2%

37,286+

355,689

14.65%

76,483+

107,700

4.84%

4 3/4%

2,100+

108,200

4.46%

7,124-

mapolis

68,054

3e06%

3 3/4%

15,314-

75,081

3.09%

15,965-

Kansas City

106,659

4.80%

5 1/4%

1G,056-

106,741

4.40%

20,723-

66,475

2.99%

3 3/4%

16,893-

76,475

3.15%

14,571-

199,331

8.97%

8 1/4%

15,921+

199,331

8.21%

969-

Dallas
San Francisco
TOTALS

NOTE:

32,223,149

100

%

100

%

$68,776 -dj.

32,427,881

100

%

3139,29C Adj,

Charge-offs do not include reserves for possible losses, Self Insurance or abnormal real estate depreciation.




EXHIBIT "D"
(1) PARTIC=ION BY FEDERAL RESERVE BANKS IN THE SYSTEM SPECIAL INVESTMENT ACCOUNT AND (2) TOTAL HOLDINGS OF GOVERNMENT
SECURITIES BY FEDERAL RESERVE BANKS CLOSE OF BUSINESS CCTOBER 16, 1935 AND THE AMOUNT OF (1) AND (2) GV-R OR SHORT
OF PRO RATA SHARE BASED ON RATIO OF RESERVES IN EXCESS OF AMOUNT REQUIRXr FOR A 55% RATIO
(C)
(B)
(D)
(E)
(A)

411

Boston

Ratio of
Reserves in
Excess of
Amount
Require e_
For a
55% Ratio
6 3/4%

ParticipationE
in
System
Account
$

156,982

Participations
(+) Over or
(-) Short of
Pro Rata Share
Based on Ratios
in CclumnA
$

6,919+

Total Holdings
(Portfolio and
Participation
in System Acct.)
$

Total Holdings
(+) Over or
(-) Short of
Pro Rata Share
Based on Ratios
in Column A

157,677

$ . 6,2C5-

%

622,318

422,562-

742,614

398,490-

Philadelphia

5 1/4%

173,734

57,019+

177,12(

49,656+

Cleveland

5 1/4%

218,024

101,309+

218,024

90,560+

Richmond

2

%

116,715

72,252+

116,716

68,158+

Atlanta

1 1/2%

94,209

60,862+

94,213

57,795+

Chicago

20 3/4%

292,948

1683355-

355,689

148,096-

St. Louis

2 1/2%

107,700

52,121+

108,200

47,503+

Minneapolis

1 1/2%

68,054

34,707+

75,081

38,663+

Illsas City

1 3/4%

106,659

67,754+

106,741

64,253+

3/4%

66,475

49,801+

76,475

58,266+

5

%

199,331

88,173+

199,331

77,937+

1CC

a
/0

$2,223,149

New York

47

Dallas
San Francisco
TOTALS




$590,917 Adj.

$2,427,881

$552,791 Adj.

•
EXHIBIT "E"
EARNINGS OF ALL FEDERAL RESERVE BANKS
FOR THE NINE MONTHS ENDED SF=MBER 30, 1935
Earnings do not include $4,647,393.85 profits (as of Oct. 16, 1935)
on security sales, now held in Suspense Account.

Boston
New York
Philadelphia
Cleveland
Richmond
Atlanta
Chicago
St. Louis
Minneapolis
Kansas City
Dallas
San Francisco
TOTALS

Available for
Depreciation
Allowances,
Reserves and
Surplus

Gross
Earnings

Current Expenses
and Net Deductions
from Current
Net Earnings

$ 2,071,117
10,147,184
2,326,575
2,787,966
1,635,926
1,285,040
4,808,660
1,406,561
1,095,901
1,470,156
1,130,672
2,440,713

,,,, 2,028,183
8,241,90
2,468,005
2,701,547
1,507,306
1,124,126
3,016,043
1,249,106
1,031,597
1,423,771
1,008,506
2,387,733

.t

$32,606,471

$28,189,313

$4,417,158

42,934
1,905,794
141,430 (A)
86,419
128,620
160,914
1,790,617
157,455
64,304
46,385
122,166
52,980

(A) Deficit




ESTIMATED ANNUAL RATE OF EARNINGS OF ALL FEDERAL RESERVE BANKS
ON BASIS OF GOVERNMENT SECURITY PORT.Y'OLIO AS OF OCTOBER 15
(Exclusive of Profits on Sales of Government
Securities and Year-end Charge-offs)
Total Earnings
Total Current Expense

t40,500,000
29,500,000

Current Net Earnings

$11,000,000

Net Charges (current) to profit
and loss
Dividends
Total Deductions
*Available for Surplus

$ 600,000
7,800,000
8,400,000
$ 2,600,000

*This amount would be increased if profits on sales of Government
securities exceed year-end charge-offs, or decreased if year-end
charge-offs exceed profits on sales of Government securities.

.eccerul Roserve Bani
c!
!
.:nrtmEint
Eeporto :e.

EXHIBIT "F"

rEe z
28 26

YIELD
PER CENT

4.
,
.

3.

—
U.S.T REASURY BONDS
_.

3.D

II
i14
VII

.....-

5
2
.
I
I
I
_1

SYSTEM SPECIAL
INVESTMENT ACCOUNT
•
•

1.

1

/
/
/

'`t
I

1

^N.
•
•.‘

ef
,
/
/

•
./ •
t

...........-....s_1..._

ki
•
•
‘.

/
•
•
I
•
•
q %I'
•
•
•••- 11‘00%....ok
Nom...•••-•

(1-5 YEAR MATURITY)

J




FM

J
AMJ
1934

l'h,

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•

U.S.TREAS URY NOTES

—

,

t

1.

ft.."
. •
\
i

4

-

AS

OND

J

F

M

A

M
1935

J

A

of U. S. Government Securities in System Special Investment
Average Earning Rate on Holdings
on
Outstanding U. S. Treasury Bonds and Treasury Notes
Yield
Account and Average

0

v.b

12

of the necessary conditions of its continued operation the necessity of some
- fUhaamental readjustment of our whole system of reserve requirements?
But whatever program of control may be chosen, it seems certain that-coordination of Federal Reserve policy and the Administration's fiscal policy is the
first and the fundamental prerequisite to its success.

Upon the achievement of

this coordination depends fundamentally the timing of any control program, for
whether we employed open market operations or an alteration of reserve requirements
as our first measure of control, we would be facing the definite risk of a stoppage
in the government bond market, with all of the undesirable consequences.which might
follow therefrom, unless our policy were closely timed and coordinated with a
Treasury program of budgetary economy and control.




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EXHIBIT "G"

INTEREST BEARING PUBLIC DEBT AND SYSTEM ACCOUNT HOLDINGS MATURING
WITHIN ONE YEAR AND FROM ONE TO TWO YEARS ON MAY 22 AND OCTOBER 16, 1935
(Dollars in millions) Interest Bearing
Public Debt

Eay 22, 1935

$56,538

Maturing Within 1 year
1?

1-2 years
Totals

System Account
Holdings

Percentage Held
in System Account

976

14.93

2,854

437

15.31

$9,392

$1,413

15.04

t4,644

$

874

18.82

2,106

339

16.10

6,750

$1,213

17.97

$

October 16, 1935
Maturing Within 1 year
It

1-2 years
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Form No. 131 •

Office Correspontence
To

Mr. Hamlin

From

Mr. Carpenter

FEDERAL RESERVE
BOARD

411

Date

October 95, 195s.

Subject:

o

18-852

For your information there is attached a copy of the digest, which
was read by Governor Calkins at the meeting yesterday, of the actions taken
by the Governors' Conference on October 23, 1935.

VOLUME 265
PAGE 15



Governors' Conference
October 23, 1955

of
I. - Requirement of Board of Governors that reports of indebtedness
employees in the Federal Reserve Agent's Department be made
semi-annuarty.
This topic, which was not on the program, was submitted
by Governor Young, with the explanation that the Boston Reserve
bank directors asked for an annual report of inelebtedness from
employees of the bank and that it was confusing to have different
policies in effect in the two divisions of the staff.
Voted to ask the Board of Governors
to revise its request for information regarding indebtedness of employees of the
Federal Reserve Agents' departments to
provide for annual reports in conformity
with the general practice of the Federal
Reserve banks.
II. - Report of Leased Wire Committee.
Voted that the report be accepted
committee's recommendation apthe
and
proved.
III. - Report of Standing Committee on Collections.
Voted that the report of the Standing Committee on Collections, and its
recommendation that each Federal Reserve
bank determine for itself a method of
handling drafts drawn on non-banking
institutions, received on Saturday, and
whether the float arising therefrom should
be absorbed, be approved.
IV. - Report of Committee on Reimbursable Expenses.




Governor Fleming, Chairman of the Committee, teported
informally on the progress made.
Voted that Governor Fleming's report
be accepted as an interim report of the
Committee. The Committee was instructed
to continue its studies and report to the
next conference. It was the sense of the

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Conference that the Committee should take
reasonably prompt steps to ascertain from
the Treasury and the various Governmental
agencies the extent to which they will
agree to reimburse the Federal Reserve
banks for expenses chargeable to them
under the instructions contained in the
Expense Manual.
V. - Shipments of currency and coin to nonmember banks within the district
and to points beyond district limits.
Voted that this is a reasonable accommodation to accord to nonmember banks
within the district provided the shipping
charges are reimbursed to the Federal Reserve banks and that there was no objection to performing the same service for
nonmember bmilrs in adjoining districts
provided the nonmember bank is located in
a city or town adjacent to the district
boundary, upon the same basis.
VI. - Desirability of Reserve banks adopting a time schedule for direct
sendings by Air Mail.
Voted to refer this to the Standing
Committee on Collections for study and
report to the next conference.
VII. - Meeting days of Directors.
Voted that it is desirable that meetings of the Boards of Directors of the
twelve Federal Reserve banks be held on
the same day and that the Board of Governors be asked to arrange with the several
Reserve banks for uniformity in this regard
to become effective after February 1, 1956.
VIII. - Postage surcharge on currency and securities.




Voted that the Board of Governors be
requested to consult with the Postal authorities with a view to bringing about a
discontinuance of the surcharge applying
to such shipments made by the Federal Reserve banks.

-sIX. - Acceptance of deposits of uninvested trust
funds by Federal Reserve
banks (Board letter, X-9253 of July 12 1935)
Voted to recommend that:
1.

A member bank operating a separate
trust department, or
2. A trust company engaged exclusively
in conducting a trust business and
owned by a member bank,

be permitted to carry, at the option of the
Federal Reserve bank, an account on the books
of the Federal Reserve bank representing trust
funds awaiting investment or distributi
on.
Transactions in such trust account must
be confined to transfers to and from the reserve account of the member bank.
Governors Seay, Schaller, Norris and
Fleming voted in the negative.
X. - Board of Governors' Building Account.
Revision of accounting procedure to permit charge-off
of
entire amount of assessments or establishment of
appropriate reserves.

•

Voted that assessments levied by the
Board of Zovernors of the Federal Reserve
System, to purchase a site and construct a
building to house the Board, be charged to
Profit and Loss by the Federal Reserve banks.
XI. - Publicity requested by member banks inclu
ding newapaper copy to
be prepared by the System featuring at times par
check c'_earance.
Voted that the furnishing of such publicity material be left to the discretion
of the individual Federal Reserve banks.
XII. - System interest in threatened litigation with
trustees of FletcherAmerican National Bank.




Voted that if a suit is filed against
the Federal Resf-rve Bank of Chicago it

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41 Dt

BOARD OF GOVERNORS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
itPI.I
and
Division of ILJ1sJi1óW

BUSINESS AND CREDIT CONDITIONS

CONFIDENTIAL

F-




October 18, 1935
Cr. 10




•

BUSINESS AND CREDIT CONDITIONS

General summary
Business conditions
Industrial production

Page
1
4
7

Employment and payrolls

11

Domestic trade

16

Foreign trade

16

Prices

17

Profits and dividends

20

Credit conditions

21

Member bank deposits

21

Bank debits and turnover of deposits

24

Member bank loans and investments

24

Money rates and bond yields

25

Security prices and security loans

26

Co.pital issues

30

Treasury finance

32

•
BUSINESS AND CREDIT CONDITIONS

General summary
Sustained activity of business at a level near the high point reached at
the beginning of the year is the outstanding fact in the current economic
situation.
The increase over last year has been chiefly in industries producing
durable goods, the low level of activity of which has been the principal characteristic of the depression.

Residential building has shown a marked and

sustained increase this year, for the first time since the decline which began
early in 192g, but the volume of construction is still relatively small.
Greater activity in industry has been accompanied by an advance in the
income both of industrial workers and of farmers, and the distribution of
commodities to consumers has also increased.
accumulation of stocks of commodities.

There has been no evidence of

Wholesale orices of farm products and

foods have continued to advance, but at a slower rate than in

1933

and 1934.

Prices of most industrial Proftucts have shown little change in the past two
years.
Notwithstanding the improvement in business, there is still a large
volume of unemployment and the burden of relief continues to be heavy.
Continued ease in the money market and the accumulation of a vast amount
of idle funds in the hands of investors have been reflected in a revival in
the caoital market.
year since 1931.




Security flotations have been in larger volume than in any

For the most part they have been refunding issues reducing

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the debt service, but there has also been an increase in the amount of new
money raised in the capital market to be used in :art in liquidation of bank
debt and in part for productive purposes.
Industrial profits have increased, and there has been a sustained advance
in security prices--representing the effect of cash buying by investors.
Bank loans to brokers have not increased and security loans to other borrowers
have declined.
Expansion of total bank loans and investments has been continuous during
the year and has reflected for the most part additional purchases by banks of
United States Government obligations and of securities guaranteed by the
Government.

Bank deposits have grown as the result chiefly of gold imports

and disbursements by the Government, and demand deposits of member banks are
at a higher level than at any previous time.
In recent months disturbed conditions abroad and expectations of a rise
in security prices have resulted in a large flow of capital to this country
and consequent imports of gold.

These imports have been the chief factor in

carrying member bank reserves to a new high level, as shown in the accompanying
chart.

Notwithstanding a considerable increase in legal reserve requirements,

consequent upon the increase in deposits, and a more than seasonal growth in
the demand for currency, arising from the greater volume of trade, excess reserves of member banks increased further and at $2,900,000,000 are at the
highest point on record.
Immediate prospects in the business situation taken as a whole appear
to be favorable.




•
MEMBER BANK RESERVE FUNDS
AND FACTORS OF CHANGE IN THEIR VOLUME
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS

Since January 31,1934
Wednesday figures

10

BILLIONS OF DOLLARS

I
Money in Circulation
,
"&el

,

,t
r...•"oft

"V
••••'1

6
-

0,..............40.,,,
9

5
Gold Stock
.

Member Bank
Reserve Balances

-1

8

4

7 ,

J...

-,

3

Treasury Cash and
Deposits with F R.Banks
_

2
Reserve Bank
Credit
...-,----..--, -.Treasury 8c
_National
Bank
2
Currency

Non-member Deposits and
Other Accounts

-

--0

F. MA. M. J. J. A. S. O. ND. J. F M. A.M. J. J. A. S. O. N. D.




_

---

1934

1935

II

Illi

1

ilii

II

ll

F. M. A. M. J. J. AS. 0. ND. J. F. M. A. M J. J. AS. 0. N. D.

1934

1935

0

_ 4Business Condons
During the first three quarters of 1935 industrial activity and

IS

ployment have been maintained at a level higher than in any of the four
preceding years and abaut half wazy between the lowest point of the depression
and the 1929 level.

The increase

nSroducon over last year, mounting to

about 10 percent, has been largely in durable manufactures, particularly
autS mobiles, machinery, and steel,

rhile output of non4.durable manufactures

in the aggregate has Shown a relatively small increase.
Since the beginning of the year, industrial activity has shorn less
chaage than in the corresponding period of any other recent year.

In

September the Board's seasonally adjusted index ras at 88 percent of the
1923-1925 average as compared with a high point of 91 percent in January
and a low point of 85 percent in May.

Industrial prices also have fluctuated

within a narrow range and there has been no general accumulation of stocks
of industrial products such as occurred in the rapid speculative advance in
prices and production during the summer of 1933.
The volume of.residential bung, which had remained unchanged at exceptionally low levels in 1932, 1933, and 1934, has shown an increase this
year, reflecting improvement both in the real estate situation and in the
mortgage market.

The current level is approximately twice that of last year

and one-fifth that of the peak years 1925 to 1928.
building has continued at a low level.

Commercial and factory

There has been less public con-

struction in recent months than a year ago; currently, however, a considerable amount of new public work is being undertaken.
Incomes in industrial communes have increased someWhat, as compared
with a year ago, reflecting primarily increased industrial activity.




Relief

•

-5expenditures by the government have continued at a high level.

Factory

payrolls for the first three quarters were 10 percent larger, and there
was also an increase in wage payments on the railroads, where employment
declined somewhat but wage rates advanced.
Industrial profits have also been larger than in the corresponding
period of 1934.

The largest increases have been in the automobile,

building materials, machinery, and electrical equipment industries,
while the profits of public utilities, vch had shown a relatively small
decline during the depression, have decreased somewhat further this year.
Agricultural income has been above that of a year ago by

as

7

percent, chiefly as a consequence of higher prices for livestock and
livestock products.
while

Marketings of livestodk have been sharply reduced

IS production has shown a considerable increase over last year,

when draught condons prevailed.
The voluma of domestic trade has been somewhat larger than a year
ago, particularly in rural areas.

Purelases of hausehold equipment -4,nd

automobiles have shown a substantial growth, lnd the dollar volume of
sales by department stores has been larger, with the most marked in—
creases over last year reported in recent months.
Although economic activity has increased substantillly from the
low levels of the depression, the current level Is considerably below
that in 1929 and the volume 9f unemployment continues high.
The accompanying table shows a comparison of business conditions
in September and the first three quarters of 1935 with condons in the
years 1929, 1932, 1933 and 1934.




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BUSINESS CONDITIONS
Index numbers, 1923-1925 = 100

ConstrucDepart- Whole- Retail
tion con- Factory Factory nent
food
sale
Industrial
employ- paytracts
prices
pricos
store
production
rolls sales
ment
awarded
2/
1/
)
(value
1929

119

117

105

109

111

95

157

1932
1933
'934
1935

64
76
79

2g

46
49
62

69
67
75

65
66
75

102

25
32

64
69
79

Jan.-Sept.3j

g7

31

Si

6g

7g

go

122

Aug.3j
Sept.i/

87

3g

g2
pS2

70
p71

79

gl
gl

122
124

pgS

p41

pg2

loo
ill

p--Preliminary.
2./ 1926 = 100; index of Bureau of Labor Statistics.
2/ 1913 = 100; index of Bureau of Labor Statistics.
ale and
3j Indexes for periods less than a year, except those for wholes
ion.
retail prices, adjusted for seasonal variat




Industrial production
Since the middle of 1932 there have been four periods of increased
industrial output, each quite different from the others.

Some of the dif-

ferences are evident on the accompanying chart, which shows the Board's seasonally adjusted index of industrial production and the production of iron
and steel, automobiles, other durable manufactures, textiles, meatpacking,
other non-durable manufactures, and minerals, all expressed in terms of points
in the total index, so that it is possible to see just how much of any
movement in the total index is accounted for directly by changes in activity in
any of these industries.

The indirect effects, such as an increase in the

output of materials owing to an increase in output of finished goods, are
not shown separately.




A




INDEX OF INDUSTRIAL PRODUCTION
POINTS IN
TOTAL INDEX

ADJUSTED FOR SEASONAL VARIATION, 1923 - 25 AVERAGE FOR TOTAL=I00

POINTS IN
TOTAL INDEX

100

100
Total
Industrial Production

90

90

80

80

70

70

60

60

50

50

20

20

Iron and Steel

10

10
Automobiles
0

10

10
Durable
Manufactures

0

0
30

30

Other Nondurable
Manutactures
..
ilk

20

10

20

Textiles

10

Meat Packing

20

20
Minerals

10

10

0
1932

1933

1934

1935

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The first of the four advances was in the summer of 1932.

It was small

in amount and reflected largely an increase in textile output from an unusually low level.

By the following March, at the time of the banking

crisis, production had declined to about the same level as in the middle of
1932.
The second advance, stimulated by the reopening of banks, the low level
of stocks of certain commodities, and the prospect of higher costs and higher
prices in many lines, was widespread and exceptionally rapid.

Output of

semi-finished products showed the most rapid expansion in this period, and
the index, which is based in large part on output of such products, advanced
41 points in four months, from
to 100 percent in July.

59 percent of the 1923-1925 average in March

This advance, partl.y of a speculative character, was

not sustained, however, and beginning in August there was a general, rapid
decline in output, which by November had brought the index down to 72 percent.
The third advance in the index, to a high of

86 percent in May 1934,

reflected primarily increased output of steel, Part of which was purchased
for stock in anticipation of price advances announced for the third quarter.
Increased automobile production was also a factor in this advance.

After

May the index declined rapidly, reflecting chiefly an abrupt decline in
steel production which continued at an exceptionally low level for several
months.

There was also a decline in activity at textile mills while meatpack-

ing showed a marked increase, largely as a consequence of the draught.
The low point of this downward movement in the index of industrial production was reached in September 1934, partly owing to the textile strike in
that month.




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- 10 -

The fourth advance, from this low 1)oint of 71 percent in
September 1934 to 91 percent in January 1935, was general for the industries shown on the chart, except that in the meatpacking industry
activity showed a rapid decline during this period.

The level of

industrial output reached in January was somewhat higher than that
reached in the spring of 1934 and has been largely maintained.

This

is the first advance that has not been followed in the immediately
succeeding months by a sharp decline.
this year is g5 percent for May.

The lowest index reported so far

The most recent index, for September,

is gg percent, and there is no indication of a decline in the immediate
future.
Steel production has boon maintained generally at a level of between
40 and 50 percent of caracity and currently is at 52 percent, reflecting
sustained demand from many sources, ospcially the automobile and machinery and miscellaneous industries; orders from the railroad and building
industries have continued to bo in limited volume.

Automobile production,

which had incroasod from a low level of 1,400,000 cars for the whole year of
1932 to 2,g00,000 for 1934, has totaled 2,900,000 during the first nine
months of

1935. output was sharply reduced in September as preparation was

made for new models which are now being produced in increasing volume.




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residenLumber output has increased considerably, accompanying an advance in
tial building and increased activity in the furniture industry.

Textile

production as a whole has been unuaually stable at a level somewhat higher
than was reached at any time during 1934.

This hiher level, however, has

been due chiefly to unusually large production by the wool industry, partly
offset in the total by a relatively small volume of output in the cotton
textile industry.
At mines output has fluetuated more from month to month this year than
in other recent years on account of uncertainties concerning a possible coal
strike, Which finally occurred in September and was settled after a few days.
Employment and payrolls
Total volume of employment is slightly higher than a year ago and substantially above the lowest level of the depression.

It is, however, con-

siderably below the 1929 level and, with a Erowing number of persons of
working age, the volume of unemployment continues at an unusually hiEh level.
The course of factory employment since 192S is shown on the accompanying chart with separate lines for employment in the industries producing
durable manuf.Ictures, such as iron and steel, automobiles, machinery, lumber,
and furniture, and for employment in the industries producing non-durable
manufactures, such as foods, textiles, and loather products.
adjusted for seasonal variation.




The figures are

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12

FACTORY EMPLOYMENT
Ad.usted for seasonal variation

MILLIONS OF EMPLOYEES

-

10

9

9

8

8
Total Factory Employment

6

6

5

5

--.._..,.•••'''''-''—'‘
4

4
%....
".............,

.

Nondurable

i

iI

Group

*
a

Ii

_

3

N41

.0.

3

Durab e
Group
2

w

2

1

1

0




0
1928

1929

1930

1931

1932

1933

1934

1935

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13

The total number of wage-earners employed at factories in August was
about 6,goo,000 as compared with
in the spring of

6,600,000 a year ago, a low of 4,900,000

'933, and a high of 9,000,000 in the middle of 1929. Pre-

liminary figures indicate that in September the number employed showed a
seasonal increase.
In 1929, as in most of the earlier post-war years, the number employed
in the durable group was slightly larger than in other manufacturing inclustries.
in

From the high in 1929 to the low point of the depression, the decline

non-durable.group

was about 1,500,000 persons, while in the durable

group it was about 2,700,000 persons.

The aubsequent increase reported for

the durable group has been larger than for the non-durable group, amounting
to about 1,10,000 persons as compared with 900,000.

Thiu year employment

in both groups has been maintained with little change, with the durable
group generally higher than a year ago.

Detailed comparisons for leading

groups of industries are shown in the following table.




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FACTORY EMPLOYMENT
January-August 1935
Average
number
of
emrloyees

Change from
year qgo
Number of
Percent
employees

Total

+111,100

+1.7

Durable group

+119,300

+4.1

S,2OO

-0.2

+15,2oo
+11,600

+3.5
+2.3

Automobiles and parts
Machinery
Non-ferrous metals and products
Lumber and products
Iron and steel and products
Transportation equipment, other
than automobiles
Stone, clay, and glass products
Railroad repair shops
Non-durable group 1/
Textile wearing apparel
Paper and printing
Chemical group, except petrbleum
refining
Textile fabrics
Leather and products
Petroleum refining
Food products
Rubber products
Tobacco Products

1/ Includes a few miscellaneous industries not shown soparateIy.




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Employment at mines has fluctuated considerably in recent months, reflecting the threat of a strike in the bituminous coal industry; the average
for the year to date, however, is about the same as last year.

On railroads

employment has shown a seasonal increase since the beginning of the year,
while in public utilities little change has been reported.
Payrolls at factories for the period from January to September this
year have been about 10 percent larger than a year ago and on the railroads
payrolls have also been larger, partly on account of higher wage rates.
Payrolls at mines and public utilities have shown little change.

The figures

for these four groups of industries are given below; for other groups, such
as trade, construction, professional and government service, no satisfactory
data are available.

AVERAGE WEEMY PAYROLLS IN FOUR GROUPS OF INDUSTRIES
(In millions of dollars per week)
Jan.-Sept.
1934

Jan.-Sept.

1935

Change

Total--factories, mines, railroads,
public utilities*

183.9

199.0

+15.1

Factories
Durable group
Non-durable group

126.5
58.3
63.2

138.3
66.4
72,4

+12.3
+8.1
+4.2

Mines

12.7

12.4

-.3

Railroads

28.0

30.0

+2.0

Public utilities

22.9

23.8

+.9




*Steam railroad repair shops are included in factories and also
in railroads, but the duplication has been eliminated in this
total.

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trade
.The total amount of domestic trade

asSoon larger during the first

throe quarters of 1935 than it was a year ago.
in rural areas, as reported to teIeparmen

Sales of general merchandise

of Commerce by mail—ordor

houses and chain stores, have boon Tubstantially larger than in any other
year since 1930.

Department store sales, as measured by tho Board's season—

ally adjusted index, have shown an increase during this year and the average
for thc third quarter was g0 porcont of the 1923-1925 average, as compared
with

75

percent in the third quarter of 1934.

Sales of automobiles showed

a considerable advance in the early part of the year and were well maintained
until September when they declined prior to the introduction of new models.
There has been an increase over a year ago in the sales of chain grocery
stores, owing in part to higher food prices, while in chain variety stores
sales have been in about the same amount as last year.
Foreign trade
In the first g months of this year the value of exports ws about the
same as in the corresponding period last year while the value of imports was
S ne—fifth larger.

The excess of exports amounted to $23,000,000 as compared

with $259,000,000 a year ago.
Reflecting chiefly the effects of last summer's drought, exports of meats,
lard, and grains showed a marked decline from last year and imports of live—
stock Products, grains, and feeds increased. Exports of cotton showed a
marked decrease and the quantity,of tobacco exported was also considerably
smaller. Exports of automobiles, machinery, and crude petroleum, however,
have beon in larger volume than last year.




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The increase in imports this year has been general,with marked increases over a year ago reported for sugar and tin, as well as for meats
and grains.

Imports of crude rubber have been larger in value but slightly

smaller in volume.
Prices
Since the beginning of the year the general level of wholesale prices
has shown less change than in the corresponding period of any other year
since 1929.

The course of the index has been gradually upward, with an ir-

regular advance from 7g percent of the 1926 average in the early part of
January to S1 percent currently.

As is indicated on the accompanying chart,

movements in the index have been largely dominated by changes in the prices
of farm products and foods, while prices of other commodities as a group
have shown little change from the level reached in the autumn of 1933 and
maintained throughout 1934.




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WHOLESALE PRICES
PER CENT
110

1926 average = 100

PER CENT
1 10

100

100

90

90

80
,.
Other
Commodities)
i
70

., •e"'••No,.........,,,

e -

,
\
...,/
All
Corm

80
i.... .....

1 r`.titif

70
.

60

60

Foods

50

50
Farm Products

40

40

30 .....,..




..-....._ 30
1932

1933

1934

1935

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The principal changes in prices of farm products and foods
have been marked increases in the prices of livestock and livestock products, a rapid decline in the prices of grains other
than wheat, and a smaller decrease in the price of cotton.

Wheat

prices declined in the early part of the year but from the end of
June to the first week of October they advanced rapidly, and although they have declined somewhat since then, they are now higher
than at the beginning of the year.

Prices of sugar have also

shown a considerable increase.
7hile other commodities as a group have shown little change,
there have been marked laovements in the prices of several individual
commodities.

Since last spring prices of hides and leather, silk,

textile products, and scrap steel have advanced, and since summer
nonferrous

metals have -Iso increasnd.

Prices of tires and tubes

and. crude petroleum have shorn declines curing the year.
Retail prices of foods advanced considerably during the early
months of the year, reflecting chiefly a sharp rise in meat prices.
Since April there has been little net chanze in food prices and at
the present time they are approximately 6 percent higher than they
were a year ago.




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111

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Profits and dividends
Industrial profits, as indicated by reports of large corporations,
were somewhat larger in both the first and second quarters of
in the corresponding periods of last year.

1935

than

Automobiles, building materials,

machiner7, and electrical equipment were among the industries showing the
most marked increases.

Results for the third quarter are not yet available,

but known developments indicate that profits were above those of the previous year.

Since 1932, when industrial corporations were cenerally operat-

ing at a loss, profits have recovered substantially, but their current
volume is still only about one-third of that attained in 1929.
During the first half of

1935

profits reoorted by public utility

companies were somewhat below those of the previous year.

Since the re..

cession in this field, however, was much less than for industry generally,
profits of utilities are almost two-thirds as high as the best levels
reached a few years ago.

Railroad companies as a group failed to earn

their fixed charges during the first half of

1935,

as in other recent

years.
Dividend declarations for a large group of corporations during the
•first nine months of the year as compiled by the New York Times aggregated
$2,000,000,000, an increase of about $100,000,000 over the previous year.
Several of the largest banks in New York City have recently reduced dividends because of low average yields on available funds.




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•

Credit Conditions

Member bank .400.111
Deposits at member banks have continued to show a rapid growth during

1935,

reflecting principally the influence of gold imports and of disbursements

by the Government of funds raised through the sale of obligations to the banks.
The following table shows for recent years the various types of deposits at all
member banks.
DEPOSITS AT ALL MEMBER BANKS
ON SPL7CTED CALL DATES
(In millions of dollars)
Adjusted
demand*

Time
(excluding
interbank and
Postal Savings)

United
States
Government

Postal
Savings

16,324

13,053

34g

115

3,766

June 30

12,0g9

g,102

o6

7gg

3,340

1934 June 30

14,261

9,096

1,65g

585

4,397

31

15,66

9,315

1,636

452

4,905

June 29

17,530

9,747

779

307

5,442

1929 June 29

.1933

Dec.

1935

Interbank

* Demand deposits, other than those of banks and the United States
Government, plus certified and officers' checks, cash letters of credit
and travelers' checks, and due to Federal Reserve banks (deferred credits),
minus cash items reported as on hand and in process of collection.
On June 29,

1935,

adjusted damand deposits, which exclude United States

Government deposits, interbank balances, and reported "float," amounted to
$17,530,000,000.

This is the largest amount ever reported for member banks,

but demand deposits at nonmember banks and at all banks continued below their
previous peak.

Time deposits at member banks, excluding interbank and Postal

Savings deposits, increased in the first half of this year and at $9,750,000,000
were $1,650,000,000 larger than two years earlier, but considerably smaller than
in the period from 192g to 1931.



111

4

The recent decline in Postal Savings deposits at banks reflects the direct
investment of funds by the Postal Savings System; the amount of deposits
held by the public in Postal Savings accounts has shown little change since

1933. The continuous growth in interbank balances, which are now the largest
on record, reflects an increase in idle funds held by banks.
That the growth of deposits has continued since June, although at a
somewhat slower rate than in the second quarter of this year, is indicated
by figures for weekly reporting member banks in 91 leading cities, shown
on the chart.

Adjusted demand deposits at these banks increased by over

$200,000,000 between June 26 and October 9, while time deposits showed a
small increase, notwithstanding a decrease in Postal Savings deposits,
which are included in the figures shown on the chart.

Balances of domestic

banks continued to increase, and there has also been some growth in recent
weeks in deposits of foreign banks, reflecting the movement of short-term
funds from abroad.




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23

MEMBER BANKS IN LEADING CITIES
DEPOSITS AND LOANS AND INVESTMENTS
Since Sept.5,1934
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS

Wednesday figures

BILLIONS OF DOLLARS

20

13

Total Loans
and Investments

12
Adjusted
Demand Deposits

.

19

18

11

J U.S. Gov't
Direct Obligations

_

MI
7

Balances bf
Banks in U.S.

5

45
...........,

..N..
--.....-..„.„,
"
.
Time Deposits

.Other Customers'Loans

—

3

..- •
•
...No
•••t ..,••%•J••...se •
Other Securities

4

•,

_

Loans on Securities
to Customers

3

2

1U.S. Gov't.
Deposits
Loans on Real Estate
.111=11

IMIN• 11•111......=
+
••••

Street Loans
..... - ........•am

Balances of
Foreign Banks
.0.— . .......... 6.........
0




.460•

..11.

At

1935

1

-

4.

Securities Guaranteed
by U.S.

........a......,eo.,.....

Acceptances
Commercial Paper
. . I . .

S. 0. N. D.I J. F. M. A. M. J. J. A. S. 0. N. D.

1934

=•
.101.,•

.

.

. .

S. 0. N. D. J. F. M. A. M. J. J. A. S. 0. N. D.

1934

1935

0

J.11

•

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•

Bank debits and turnover of de_posits
Reflecting an increased volume of financial and other business transactions, the amount of debits to depositors' accounts at banks has been
larger in 1935 than in any of the three previous years.

At banks in 140

cities outside of New York debits in the first three quarters of this year
were 13 percent larger than in the same period last year.

In New York City,

where debits are to a considerable extent affected by speculative stockmarket activity, the increase amounted to 6 percent.
The increase in debits for the country as a whole has been somewhat
slower than the growth of deposits, and therefore the rate of deposit turnover has decreased slightly.
Member bank loans and investments
Loans and investments of member banks have increased this year by a somewhat smaller amount than in the same period last year.

This difference has

reflected in large part the smaller volume of borrowing by the United States
Government and its agencies this year as compared with last.

Another factor

has been the retirement in July and August of bonds bearing the circulation
privilege,

Holdings of direct obligations of the United States Government

by all member banks showed little change in the first half of the year, while
those of weekly reporting member banks in leading cities, as indicated on the
chart previously shown, have increased by about $200,000,000 since June.
Additional securities

purchased have exceeded in amount the circulation

bonds retired.
Obligations fully guaranteed by the United States Government increased
by $570,000,000 at all member banks in the first
half of the year, reflecting
in part an exchange of partially guaranteed for
fully guaranteed securities.
Since June weekly reporting banks have shown a further
increase.
of other securities also increased during the
year.




Holdings

•

Total loans of member banks declined in the first half of the year,
but since the end of July loans of weekly reporting banks have increased
somewhat.

Loans on securities to customers continued to decline,

other

custS mers' loans showed seasonal increases in the spring and again in
recent weeks.

Loans to brokers and dealers in securities, which are dis-

cussed more fully in a subsequent section, fluctuated wn a relatively
small range, reflecting principally operations of dealers in Government
securities.
Money rates and bond yields
Short-term money rates have continued at low levels during 1935, with
rates on open-market commercial paper at 3/4 of one percent since January,
those on call and time loans on the New York Stock Exchange at 1/4 of one
I- rcent since April, and rates on acceptances at liS of one percent throughout the year. Yields on 9-month Treasury bills, which declined in the
ol the
first halflyear to .05 of one percent in July, have recently been between
.20 and .25 of one percent.
Rates charged on prime loans to customers by "onks have shown a further
slow decline during the year.

Rates at New York City banks now average

less than 2 3/4 percent; those in other northorn and eastern cities,3 3/4
percent; and those in southern ana western ces, about

percent.

Yields on outstanding Treasury bonds continued to decline during the
first half of the year int rose somewhat in August and September as a
consequence of declines in prices.

Yields on high-grade corporate bents

have been relatively stable at a low level since early in the year.




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Security prices and security loans
There has been a substantial increase in security prices and in stock
market activity during recent months, reflecting for the most part cash
purchases by investors.

The following chart brings out the fact that this

rise in prices of securities has not boon accompanied by an increase in
security loans.




27

S

SECURITY LOANS AND STOCK PRICES
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS

BILLIONS OF DOLLARS

Wednesday figures
1
LOANS ON SECURITIES
BY REPORTING MEMBER BANKS

5
_

5
_

Total
Loans on Securities

4

4
_

_

.

3

3

Loans to Borrowers
other than Brokers
and Dealers

_

_

2

2
_

Loans to
Brokers and Dealers
.. ... ,

1
_

.

0

0

PER CENT

PER CENT

120

120

1

_

-

STOCK PRICES
I
421 Common Stocks

"

80

80

40

40
-

0

....




1932

.

.

0

.

1933

1934

1935

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The average increase in stock prices since last March has exceeded
30 percent, according to the most comprehensive available index, While
the security loans of the weekly reporting member banks have shown little
A small increase in their loans to brokers and dealers in securi—

change,

ties has been offset by a decrease in their security loans to other cus—
tomers.
It is an unusual

development for a rise of 30 percent in stock

prices in a short period of time not to be accompanied by an increase in
the amount of bank credit used for carrying securities.

This unusual con—

dition is due in part to the abundance of funds in the hands of investors
and in part to the effects of the Boardls Regulation T, which limits with—
drawals of cash from margin accounts for the purpose of realizing profits
from a rise in stock prices, and thereby reduces the need of borrowing by
brokers.
A somewhat paradoxical situation arises out of the nature of the formula
for determining margin requirements stated (but not proscribed) in the law
and adopted by the Board.

The formula provides that a loan on a security

must not be greater than whichever is the higher of:
(1) 55 per centum of the current market ierice of the
security, or
(2) 100 per contum of the lowest market price of the
security during the preceding thirty—six calendar months,
but not more than 75 per centum of the current market price.
The theory on which this formula was based was to provide for a con—
stant increase of restraining influences as the prices of stocks advanced
further and further above their lows.

The way the formula works out in

Practice is not entirely consistent with this theory.




Up to the point

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when the price of a stock rises to 133 percent of its three-year low it is
permissible to borrow as much as

75 percent of

sISare

price and an in-

crease in price can result in pyramiding of profits. From
the price reaches 182 percent of
reI ains constant at

until

sI' the amount that can be borrowed

S.
percent of teIw price.

percentage of the margin to

aII

During that period the

eIermisse loan increases, but the actual

amount that can be borrowed remains unchanged and, therefore, no pyramiding
is possible.

When the price of the security gets above 182 percent of its

low, the formula results in a constant 45 percent margin requirement.

This

is the highest proportionate margin Provided for in the formula, but since
every increase of $1.00 in thc price of
an increase of

eIsc from

aIIn

permits

55 cents in the amount that can be borrowed onbe-

comes possible once more to pyramid profits arising from price advances.
In this way the formula, though providing a higher margin requirement for
stocks that have advanced rapidly, results in removal of the anti-pyramiding restraint when the stocks have advanced beyond 182 percent of their lows
At the present time stocks in which two-thirds of the trading is done,
including many market leaders, have emerged from the anti-pyramiding zone
and, though subject to the 45 percent margin requirement, will afford
opportunities for pyramiding profits in the event of further advances'in
Irices.
The course of

eiiare

in the immediate future requires close

observation to determine whether and when a change in the formula or
in the level of required margins shall become desirable.




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Capital issues
The supply of funds seeking investment and the low level of
money rates brOught about a revival of the capital markets beginning early in 1935.

New issues, particularly for refunding

purposes, were offered in increased volume in March and have
continued to come into the market in a volume substantially
Total issues increased from $140,-

above that of recent years.

000,000 in January and $100,000,000 in February to $290,000,000
in March.
month.

Since then they have averaged about $500,000,000 a

This compares with average issues of $140,000,000 a

month during the years 1932-1934 and of $740,000,000 a month
during the period 1925-1930.
Capital issues for the period Jan-nary 1--September 30,
1935, totaled $3,530000000, including $2,560,000,000 for refunding existing securities and $970,000,000 for raising new
capital to be used in part in liquidation of bank loans and
in part to improve or expand plant and equipment.
The increased flow of new securities into the capital market
during 1935 has been chiefly for the purpose of reducing interest
charges on existing debt.

Nearly three-fourths of the securities

were offered to refund outstanding securities into issues bearing
lower coupon rates.

In fact the total issued fcr refunding pur-

poses during this nine-month • period exceeds the amount of such
issues during any post-war year.




Refunding issues of the farm

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loan and Government credit agencies totaled $g65,000,000, inof
eluding offerings to redeem $400,000,0001Federal land bank bonds
and $325,000,000 of Home Owners' Loan Corporation bonds guaranteed
by the United States as to interest.

Public utility companies

were the next most important group participating in refunding operations.

They issued $760,000,000 for refunding purposes, in-

cluding twelve issues varying in amount from $30,000,000 to $70,000,000 each and aggregating $530,000,000.
Corporate issues have become a more important factor in the
capital market in 1935 than in any year since 1931.

Total issues

by corporations in the period January 1--September 30 were $1,00,000,000, including $1,370,000,000 for refunding purposes and $230,000,000 for new capital.

In addition to the refunding issues of-

fered by public utility companies, which have already been mentioned, $120,000,000 were offered for this purpose by railroads,
$340,000,000 by various manufacturing companies, and $110,000,000
by companies producing and refining oil.

Corporate issues to raise

new capital averaged $35,000,000 a month during the period April 1-September 30, which is in excess of average monthly issues for such
purposes in any year since 1931.

Stocks, preferred and common,

have been issued to only a small degree.

Nearly three-fourths of

the issues for new capital have been in the form of long-term bonds
and notes.




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Treasury finance
During the period July 1 to September '60, 1935, Treasury expenditures, excluding debt retirement, were :1_,700,000,000, receipts totaled ::1,000,000,0001 and the public debt increased by
0700 000,000.
On the basis of revised budget estimates, included in a recent statement by the President, the deficit (excluding debt retirement) for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1936, is expected to
be about $2,700,000,000, as compared with a deficit of :,.;5,000,000,000 in the fiscal year 1935.

aereas during the fiscal year 1935

the Treasury met a large portion of its deficit by drawing on its
previously accumulated general fund balance and the public debt
showed an increase of only 11650,000,000, it is anticipated that
during the current fiscal year the deficit will be met principally
by borrowing and the public debt will increase by $2,600,000,000.
During the current calendar year the Treasury's refunding program has included about
redemption.

51 700,000,000 of its bonded debt called for

The retired issues include a,870,000,000 of 4th Liberty

Loan bonds on April 15, the remaining n1,250,000,000 of 4th Liberty
bonds on October 15, :a
1 1 930,000,000 of lot Liberty bonds on June 15,
600,000,000 of Consols on July 1 and
bonds on August 1.

About

75,000,000 of Panama Canal

!I'4.,e0o,00o,000

of this bonded debt was

retired by exchange offerings; the new issues included !':,2,510,000,000 of 2 7/8 percent 20-25 year bonds, r;'570,000,000 of 2 3/4 percent 10-12 year bonds,'
,860,000,000 of 1 5/8 percent 5-year Treasury
notes, and $430,000,000 of 1 1/2 percent



1/2 year Treasury notes.

I

te

Att.

jz.
on October
leth the redemption of the remaininc; 4th Liberties
INW
begun in
15 the Treasury completed the refunding -pro-gram which was
October 1933 with the first call of the 4th Liberties.
program about

Under this

,875,000,000 Of bonds have been retired, including

all remaining war bonds and practi

y all mie-v;ar bonds.

Redemp-

tion of about 61900,000,000 of these bonds was made through ox'change offerings of notes and bonds carrying lower interest rates
and with varying periods to maturity and about 61,900,000,000 have
been redeemed in cash or are subj -:ct to cash redemption.

The effect

of the exchanges was to reduce the interest charges on that part of
,100,000,000 per annum.
'
the redeemed debt by about




Form No.131
• t•

Office Correspontence
To
4'0M

FEDERAL RESERVE
BOARD

111

Date July 242 1935

Mr. Hamlin

Subject: Authority of Senate Munitions

Mr. Owens

Committee to Subpena Witnesses and
gompel. Produoti_on—of_Daammenba. _
•

At Mr. Watt's request I have investigated the authority
of the Senate Munitions Committee to subpena witnesses and to
require the production of books, papers and documents.

As a result

of such investigation I have reached the following conclusions:
1. The Committee has the authority to require you to
appear before it as a witness and to testify regarding any natter
pertinent to its investigation.
2. Although the Committee has no general power to require
the production of your private papers or correspondence, it may
require the production of such private papers and correspondence as
are pertinent to a matter into which it has authority to inquire for
the purpose of carrying out its legislative functions.
3. The Committee has the authority to require the Federal
Reserve Board to produce such of its minutes, correspondence, and other
records as may be pertinent to a matter Into which the Committee has
authority to inquire for the purpose of carrying out its legislative
functions.
4. A witness before the Committee would not have the right
to refuse to answer a question on the ground that the testimony sought
to be elicited by the question would constitute hearsay evidence.
5. Refusal to appear before the Committee or to produce
VOLUME 265
PAGE 37




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docunents in response to a subpena would be punishable by the Senate
as a contempt and would also be punishable as a misdemeanor under the
provisions of 2 U.S.C.A. Secs. 192, 193, 194.

DISCUSSION

The Senate special committee to investigate the munitions
industry was created by Senate Resolution 206 adopted March 28, 1934.
Among other things this resolution provides:
"For the purposes of this resolution the
committee or any subcommittee thereof is authorized
to hold hearings, to sit and act at such times and
places during the sessions and recesses of the
Congress until the final report is submitted, to
require by subpena or otherwise the attendance of
such witnesses and the production of such books,
papers, and documents, to administer such oaths, to
take such testimony, and to make such expenditures, as
it deems advisable."
The above quoted provision is essentially the sane as
that contained in Senate Resolution 349 creating a Senate committee
to investigage ocean and air mail contracts.

The comparable provi-

sion of S. Res. 349 is as follows:




"For the purposes of this resolution the
committee, or any duly authorized subcommittee
thereof, is authorized to hold such hearings, to
sit and act at such times and places during the
sessions and recesses of the Senate in the Seventysecond and succeeding Congresses, to employ such
clerical and other assistants, to require by subpoena or otherwise the attendance of such witnesses
and the production of such books, papers, and
documents, to administer such oaths, to take such
testimony, and to make such expenditures, as it
deems advisable."

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The above quoted provision of S. Res. 349 was involved
in the case of Jurney v. MacCracken 293 U.S. 543, 55 S.Ct. 375,
79 L. Ed. 89 (1935).

In that ease an attorney named Maeracken

received a subpena to produce before the Committee certain correspondence with his clients regarding air mail contracts.

After receiving

the subpena he permitted a client named Brittin to remove and destroy
certain correspondence which he had been ordered to produce.

The

Senate ordered MaeCracken, Brittin and others to appear before it
to show cause why they should nat be punished for contempt of the
Senate an account of destroying and removing the correspondence in
question. EacCracken failed to appear before the Senate, was arrested
and taken into custody, and petitioned for a writ of habeas corpus
which was denied by the Supreme Court of the District of Columbia.
The action of the Supreme Court of the District of Columbia was
reversed by the Court of Appeals and after granting certioria the
Supreme Court of the United States reversed the decision of the Court
of Appeals and held that the Senate had authority to punish MacCracken
for contempt of the Senate even though the act which constituted the
contempt had been completed.

In discussing the authority of the Com-

mittee investigating ocean and air mail contracts to require the production of papers, the Supreme Court of the United States stated:




"It is conceded that the Senate was engaged in an
inquiry which it had the constitutional power to make;
that the committee had authority to require the production of papers as a necessary incident of the power
of legislation; and that the Senate had the power to
coerce their production by means of arrest. MeGrain v.
Daugherty, 273 U.S. 135, 47 S.Ct. 319, 71 L. Ed. 580,

-4

Refusal of a witness to appear and testify before a
Congressional Committee not only subjects the witness to punishment
for contempt but also renders him liable to punishment under the
provisions of Secs. 192 and 194 of 2 U.S.C.A.

These Sections pro-

vide as follows:
§192. Refusal of witness to testify. Every person
who having been summoned as a witness by the authority
of either House of Congress, to give testimony or to produce papers upon any matter under inquiry before either
House, or any committee of either House of Congress, willfully makes default, or who, having appeared, refuses to
answer any question pertinent to the question under inquiry, shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor, punishable by a fine of not more than $1,000 nor less than
$100, and imprisonment in a common jail for not less than
one month nor more than twelve months.
§194. Witnesses failing to testify. Whenever a
witness summoned as mentioned in section 192 of this
title fails to testify, and the facts are reported to
either House, the President of the Senate or the Speaker
of the House, as the case may be, shall certify the fact
under the seal of the Senate or House to the district
attorney for the District of Columbia, whose duty it shall
be to bring the matter before the grand jury for their
action.
Another Section dealing with the privileges of witnesses
to

refuse to testify before a Congressional Committee is Section 193

of 2 U.S.C.A. which provides as follows:




§193. Privilege of witnesses. No witness is privileged to refuse to testify to any fact, or to produce any
paper, respecting which he shall be examined by either
House of Congress, or by any committee of either House,
upon the ground that his testimony to such fact or his
production of such paper may tend to disgrace him or
otherwise render him infamous.

/2e

_

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Section 192 of 2 U.S.C.A. was held constitutional in
the case of In Re Chapman, 166 U. S. 661, 17 S. Ct. 677, 41 L.
Ed. 1154 (1897).

To the same effect is Sinclair v. United States,

279 U. S. 262, 49 S. Ct. 268, 73 L. Ed. 692 (1929), which upheld
the conviction of Harry F. Sinclair for refusing to answer a
question pertinent to an inquiry before the Senate Committee on
Public Lands and Surveys in its investigation of the Navy oil
leases.
In the above case it vas contended that the question
asked Mr. Sinclair

WRS

not pertinent to the investigation and

also that it involved a private matter into which the Congressional
Committee had no authority to inquire.

The question was related

to a contract between Mr. Bonfils and Mr. Sinclair regarding the
Teapot Dome oil fields.

The Supreme Court of the District of

Columbia ruled that the pertinency of the question was a matter
of law and decided that the question was pertinent.

On appeal to

the Court of Appeals of the District of Columbia, Mr. Sinclair
contended that the question of the pertinency should have been
submitted to a jury.

Certain questions of law were certified to

the Supreme Court of the United States which held that the question
of pertinency vas a matter of law to be decided by the Court and
vas properly withheld from the jury.

The matter of whether a

question is pertinent to the Congressional investigation is a




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matter of law because Congress has no general payer or even any
express power granted by the Constitution to conduct investigations.
Its authority to investigate and to subpoena witnesses is purely an
incidental function and extends only so far as is necessary to
enable Congress to carry out its legislative functions.

In view of

the fact that Congress has authority to legislate regarding the
control of the munitions industry, it would seem that it has
authority to require testimony and the production of any correspondence, books, records, or documents which would have a bearing
upon the conduct of the munitions industry or on the financing of
sales of munitions.
The leading case holding that Congress has no authority
to examine into purely private matters except insofar as it may
be necessary to do so in order to perform its legislative functions
is Kilbourne v. Thompson, 103 U. S. 168, 26 L. Ed. 377 (1880).

In

that case the Supreme Court held that a Congressional Committee had
no authority to examine into the history and character of a real
estate pool in the District of Columbia since the affairs of the
pool were involved in litigation before a bankruptcy court and
thus the investigation had become judicial rather than legislative.
The Supreme Court traced the historical development of the power of
Congress to conduct investigations and to subpoena witnesses before




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it and held that there was no general power to inquire into private
affairs of witnesses except to the extent necessary to enable the
Congress to carry out its legislative functions.

Later cases have

cited Kilbourne v. Thompson with approval but have made it clear
that if a natter is pertinent to a subject which Congress is investigating in order to legislate thereon, an exemption is not obtained by
the witness because of the fact that the matter would otherwise be
a private matter.

See McGrain v. Daugherty, 273 U. S. 135, 47 S. Ct. 319,

71 L. Ed. 560 (1927).
In view of the fact that the rules regarding hearsay evidence
are primarily for the purpose of preventing unreliable evidence from
reaching the ears of the jury who are considered to be untrained in
evaluating evidence, it is my opinion that a witness before a Congressional Committee could not refuse to answer a question on the ground
that the answer would constitute hearsay evidence.

The Committee is

not a court and it seers to no that judicial rules of evidence would
not apply.

Although the rules as to pertinency and relevancy are

applicable to Congressional Committee investigations, they are not made
applicable in order to save the tine of the court, jury, end litigants
and to prevent confusion of the jury, as is the case in a judicial
proceeding, but because the Congressional Committee has no power to
examine into a matter which is not pertinent to the performance of its
legislative functions.

Thus the rules as to pertinency and relevancy

relate to the scope of the inquiry and the power of the Committee rather




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than to the quality of the evidence as is true of the hearsay rule
in judicial proceedings.
Furthermore, the rule against hearsay is not a ratter of
privilege which may be invoked by the witness-but instead is a matter
which may be raised by the opposing attorney by way of objection or
by the Court on its awn motion in order to prevent the introduction of
hearsay evidence.




air

Respectfully,

2
seph T. Owens,
Assistant Counsel,

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FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD
WASHINGTON
December 27, 1916.
Dear Governor Strong:
I duly received your Christmas card and want to thank you for
your kind thought of me.

While I have not troubled you with many letters

inquiring as to your health, yet you can be sure I have

kept myself

informed almost day by day from those who hear from you, and the news I hear is
certainly delightful.

However, do bear in mind that you must take time, but

how ever long that time is before you can come back absolutely cured we shall
rest content, so I trust you will not worry about it.
Governor Harding tells me that he has written you about our announcement the other day of authority to the New York bank to appoint the Bank of
England its foreign correspondent and agent, so I will not bother you with any
of the details.

I feel, however, that the news was received with great favor

throughout the country as evidencing an indication of the Board to take up the
matter of foreign exchange in a practical way.
With best wishes for the New Year, believe me,
Very sincerely yours,

(Signed)

Hon. Benj. Strong, Jr.,
41 Montview Boulevard,
Denver, Colorado.

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C. S. Hamlin

Denver, Colorado,
January 2, 1917.
Dear Governor Hamlin:
It was gooc, to hear from you and I appreciated your writing
me very much indeed.

My progress is satisfactory but slow just now,

but, as you realize, my temperament does not fit in very easily with
this irksome inactivity.
Governor Harding's letter about that announcement has not yet
reached me and I await it with interest.

It is, of course, most

satisfactory to feel that we are now going to be in position to link
up our Federal Reserve System with the Bank of England and ultimately
I hope with the Bank of France and with the other great central banks
of Europe.

It would seem to me that the supreme importance of this

relationship had not been fully appreciated, not as to present conditions,
but as to the great advantages which will result from such alliances in
future years.

The only fly in the ointment is the fact that the Board's

announcement really violated a very sacred pledge which I had entered into
with Lord Cunliffe and having been made as it was might discredit me abroad
and worse than that cause him a good deal of embarrassment with his own
directors.

Concerning all of that, however, I will be able to write more fully

a little later.
With warmest regards and every good wish for the New Year, believe me,
Faithfully yours,

Hon. C. S. Hamlin,
Federal Reserve Board,
Washington, D. C.
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FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD
CONFIDENTIAL

WASHINGTON
January 9, 1917.

Dear Governor Strong:
I duly received your note of January 2nd and cannot tell you how
glad I am that your progress is satisfactory, even though slow.

The main

thing to achieve is progress and a slow steady gain in the long run is much
better than a sudden change which may later give way to further set-backs.
I fully share your gracation at the authorization of the Board
to the Federal Reserve Bank of New York to appoint the Bank of England as
its foreign agent and to open reciprocal accounts with it, and I hope, with
you, that similar action may speedily be taken with the other great central
banks of

eIwrd
I cannot, however, quite comprehend your further statement "that

the Board's announcement realy violated a very sacred pledge which I (you)
had entered into with Lord Cunliffe and having been made as it was might
discredit me (you) abroad and worse than that cause him a good deal of
embarrassment with his own directors."
I think, on reflection, you will see that
Board passed and published

eIve which our

was really an authorization to the Bank of New York

to take up the matter of the appointment of a foreign agent with the Bank of
England.

eIve contained no reference to any preliminary conversation

or understanding which had been had with the Bank of England.

On the contrary,

the vote clearly relates to future action and not to past understandings.
As a matter of fact, the memorandum of your talk with the directors was never
read officially at a meeting of the Board.

On the contrary, the Board felt

that if, acting under its authorization, you were to proceed to enter into any
arrangement with the



Ei.nk of.England, the arrangement itself w1uld be formally

-2submitted to us for our approval.
Speaking confidentially, I would say that the warning the
Board felt impelled to give to the banks of the United States as to keeping
their affairs liquid and avoiding investments in securities which though
nominally short time may ultimately develop into long time bonds, was
resented at the first, and some intimation even

WES

given that it revealed

a Pro-German inclination on the part of the Federal Reserve Board. It is
hardly necessary to say to you that this was a pure banking matter and
that the Board in giving its warning simply performed what it deemed to be
its duty in warning the banks of the United States as to the necessity
of keeping their assets in a liquid condon.

When, however, the Board

had voted to permit your Bank to appoint the Bank of England as its foreign
agent the Board felt that it would be plainly improper to keep such a vote
from the public.

It was perfectly clear to us that it was our duty to

mention the fact in our forthcoming annual report and we felt that the
only proper way was to take the public into our confidence and state what
the vote was.
So far as any action of the Board is concerned, it would, of
course, be open for the Bank of England to decline to enter into any
arrangement as to an agency, so far as our vote at least is concerned.
Speaking personally, I
in any embarrassment through

as

not believe that you will be placed

eIubcaton of this vote of the Board.

It was received with enthusiasm by the press of England and also universally
by the press in this country.

I only hope, as I have said, that it may

be the beginning of many other arrangements with the various great central
banks.




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With my very best wishes for the New Year, believe me
Very sincerely yours,

(Signed ) C. S. Hamlin

Honorable Benjamin Strong,
4100 Montview Boulevard,
Denver, Colorado.







Denver, Colorado,
January 15, 1917.

CONFIDENTIAL.

My dear Governor Hamlin:
I was delighted to receive your confidential letter of the 9th.
As you may imagine, it is only my correspondence that prevents the
development of a mental stagnation out here - that would be about the
worst fate that I could contemplate.

I am making good progress,

although at this stage it is rather slow, particularly as I am disbarred as yet from much active exercise, partly on account of the weather
and partly due to the excessive caution of my doctor, but I have added
a total of 18 lbs. to my weight by some mysterious process, and that of
course indicates progress, if nothing else does.
In reply to what you say about the foreign arrangements, I am
much tempted to write an elaborate account of the situation, but, having
already done so to the office, possibly it is better for me not to repeat
now.

Had the Board's intention to make the announcement been communicated

to me, I could have pointed out many reasons why it was unwise as could have
been done also from the office in New York, but little good can come
from worrying over spilt milk, and I am now hoping that my health and
arrangements at the bank will permit me making another trip to Europe
this summer and make these foreign arrangements complete and effecting and
as comprehensive as present conditions justify.
In conclusion, let me suggest that the establishment of these
relations between the System and the great banks of Europe is to my mind
the most important development which can now be undertaken for the purpose
of regulating after war developments, and I know that that view is shared

by some of the most important bankers both in New York and aborLd.

I

hope that no consideration will interfere with their prompt conclusion.
With kindest regards and again many thanks for your letter,
I am,
Very truly yours,

Hon. C. S. Hamlin,
Federal Reserve Board,
Washington, D. C.

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FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD
WASHINGTON
January 19, 1917.
CONFIDENTIAL:

Dear Governor Strong:I was very glad to receive your note of January 15th.
If you have added eighteen pounds to your weight, I am sure you ought
to feel that you have made splendid progress.
You say that if the Board's intention to make the
announcement had been communicated to you, you could have pointed
out many reasons why it was unwise.

When I see you I think I can

whisper a few words into your ear which will satisfy you, that it was not
only not unwise, but was the highest part of wisdom.
By the way, I notice in the Journal of the American Bankers'
Association for January, 1917, an interview with the Governor of the
Bank of France to the effect that he hopes a similar authority can be
given to the Federal Reserve Bank to enter into negotiations with the
Bank of France.
I have read many editorials in European papers and every one
welcomes the authority to enter into the proposed arrangements as most wise
and beneficial both to the United States and Great Britain.

I earnestly

hope that we can now go farther and make similar arrangements with the
other great European and Asiatic banks.
Trusting soon to hear from you again and with the kindest
personal regards of my colleagues, believe me,
Very sincerely yours,
(Signed) C. S. Hamlin
Hon. Benjamin Strong,
Denver, Colorado.



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Denver, Colorado,
January 26, 1917.

Dear Governor Hamlin:
It was very good of you to write me again and I do not
want to seem unresponsive to the needs of any important situation,
particularly when I am so far away and out of touch with things, but
that announcement, as I wrote you, did give me a great shock.
I am now corresponding with Governor Pallain of the Bank of
France and feel quite sure that we can conclude negotiations with that
institution, but in Paris much more than in London many difficulties
arise in dealing with so important ana technical a matter by correspondence.

Were I on the ground right now, I am sure the matter could

be promptly concluded.
This situation as to foreign correspondents better than any
other in my experience illustrates the truth of the saying that a man with
money is always popular.
If I live and keep my health, you will see our bank in a close
and important relationship with all the great central banks of Europe where
such relationships can be of value, and it is one of the matters which
has been uppermost in my mind ever since we started our organization.

When

that part of the work is done maybe I will retire and grow potatoes.
Again thanking you for your letter and your good wishes, I am,
Very sincerely yours,

Hon. C. S. Hamlin,
Federal Reserve Board,
Washington, D. C.

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FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD
WASH!NGTON
ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE TO
THE FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD

X-9360
November 9, 1935. .

SUBJECT:

Issuance of General Voting Permits.

Dear Sir:
consideraThe Board of Governors has for some time been giving
general voting
tion to the determination of the conditions under which
member banks purpermits may be issued to holding company affiliates of
n 9 of the Fedsuant to section 5144 of the Revised Statutes and sectio
eral Reserve Act.
ject.

subMuch thought and effort have been devoted to this

of Congress in
Special consideration has been given to the intent

to the issuance of
placing upon the Board the responsibility with respect
er the finanvoting permits and in providing that the Board shall consid
of its management
cial condition of the applicant, the general character
upon the affairs
and the probable effect of the granting of such permit
tion, grant
of its subsidiary member banks and that it may, in its discre
or withhold such permit as the public interest may require.
made of
In this connection, the Board has had an examination
other relevant
the history of this legislation, including the debates and
in a concise manmatters, and there is attached a memorandum summarizing
light upon the purner material which it is believed throws considerable
pose that Congress had in view.
the inIn the endeavor to carry out what appears to have been
wing standard
tent of Congress, it has been proposed that the follo




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votconditions be prescribed in connection with the issuance of general
ted
ing permits, in addition to such special conditions as may be warran
by the facts of individual cases:




1.

2.

That, as soon as practicable and, in any event) within
two years from the date such voting permit is granted,
the undersigned will charge off or otherwise eliminate
from its assets, (a) the part of the carrying value on
its books of its investments in stocks of subsidiary
and/or affiliated organizations which is in excess of
the adjusted value of such stocks, after effect shall
have been given to the deduction of all estimated losses
of such subsidiary and/or affiliated organizations, all
depreciation in stocks and defaulted securities, and all
depreciation in all other securities not of the four
highest grades, as classified by a recognized investment
service organization regularly engaged in the business
of rating or grading securities, as shown by the latest
available reports of examination of such organizations by
the appropriate supervisory authorities and/or as shown
by the latest appraisal of their assets by other examiners,
e
auditors or appraisers satisfactory to the Federal Reserv
four
the
of
not
ties
securi
in
Agent, (b) all depreciation
highest grades, as classified by a recognized investment
of
service organization regularly engaged in the business
other
all
in
losses
rating or grading securities, (c) all
assets as shown by such reports of examination and/or appraisals, (d) all other known losses;
That the undersigned will take such action within its
power as may be necessary to cause each of its subsidiary
State banking institutions to charge off or otherwise
eliminate from its assets as soon as practicable and, in
any event, within two years from the date such voting
permit is granted, (a) all estimated losses in loans
and discounts, (b) all depreciation in stocks and defaulted securities, (c) all depreciation in securities
not of the four highest grades, as classified by a recognized investment service organization regularly engaged
in the business of rating or grading securities, (d) all
other losses, all such charge-offs or eliminations to be
based upon the latest available reports of examination
of the banks by the appropriate supervisory authorities;




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3.

That the undersigned will take such action within its
power as may be necessary to cause each of its subsidiary banking institutions to maintain a sound financial
condition and to cause the net capital and surplus
funds of each such subsidiary banking institution to
be adequate in relation to the character and condition
of its assets and to the deposit liabilities and other
corporate responsibilities of such subsidiary banking
institution;

4.

That the undersigned will take such action within its
power as may be necessary to cause each subsidiary
national bank or affiliate thereof to comply with the
recommendations or suggestions of the Comptroller of
the Currency based upon any report of examination of
such bank or affiliate made to him pursuant to authority
conferred by law and to comply with the regulations or
requirements of the Board of Governors of the Federal
Reserve System made pursuant to authority vested in it
by law;

5.

That the undersigned will take such action within its
power as may be necessary to cause each subsidiary
State banking institution or affiliate thereof to
comply with the recommendations or suggestions of the
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System or
its designated representative in the district in
which the institution is located based upon any report
of examination of such institution or affiliate made
pursuant to authority conferred by law and to comply
with the regulations or requirements of the Board of
Governors of the Federal Reserve System made pursuant
to authority vested in it by law;

6.

That the undersigned will not make, and will take all
necessary action within its power to prevent any of
its subsidiaries and any other organizations with
which the undersigned or any of its subsidiaries is
affiliated from making, any loans or extensions of
credit to, or purchases of securities under repurchase
agreements from,the undersigned or any of its subsidiaries or any other organizations with which the
undersigned or any of its subsidiaries is affiliated,
or any investments in, or advances against, securities
of the undersigned or any of its subsidiaries or any
other organizations with which the undersigned or any
of its subsidiaries is affiliated, except within the

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same limitations and subject to the same conditions
and provisions as are applicable under section 23A of
the Federal Reserve Act to such transactions involving
member banks and their affiliates; except that this
paragraph shall not apply to loans or extensions of
credit by any organization to its own subsidiaries,
or the purchase of securities under repurchase agreements by any organization from its own subsidiaries,
or the investment by any organization in the securities of its own subisdiaries, where such transactions
would not otherwise be subject to the limitations,
conditions and provisions of section 23A of the Federal Reserve Act;
7. That the management of the undersigned and its subsidiaries will be conducted under sound policies
governing their financial and other operations, including statements issued relating thereto; that the undersigned will maintain a sound financial condition; that
its net capital and surplus funds shall be adequate
in relation to the character and condition of its assets and to its liabilities and other corporate responsibilities; and that, except with the permission of the
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, it
shall not cause or permit any change to be made in the
general character of its business or investments.
Before taking final action upon the proposed standard conditions,
the Board desires to give the applicants an opportunity to present their
views in writing.

You are, therefore, requested to transmit to each hold-

ing company affiliate in your district whose application is still pending
a copy of this letter and a copy of the inclosed memorandum, in order that
it may have an opportunity to submit to you in writing such constructive
criticisms and suggestions as it may desire to have considered by the
Board. Please transmit such criticisms and suggestions to the Board as
promptly as possiblO, and in all events not later than fifteen days from
the date of this letter, together with your own comments.




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It is the Board's desire to issue general voting permits
before the next annual meetings of stockholders in all cases where the
circumstances warrant such action; and the Board will do everything in
its power to accomplish this result. If it be found that in some instances it is not possible to do so, the Board contemplates that, in the
absence of exceptional circumstances, it will issue limited voting permits to enable the applicants to vote upon the election of directors and
routine matters at such meetings.
In order that this work may be expedited, your cooperation in
obtaining the views of the applicants and transmitting them to the Board
with your comments at the earliest possible date will be greatly appreciated.
Very truly yours,

Chester Morrill,
Secretary.

Inclosure.
TO ALL FEDERAL RESERVE AGENTS.




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RESPONSIBILITIES OF BOARD IN GRANTING
GENERAL VOTING PERMITS TO hOLDING CCUPANY AFFILIATES

The Banking Act of 1933 provided for the regulation of
holding company affiliates of member banks and made it necessary
for aach organizations to obtain voting permits from the Federal
Reserve Board (now Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
and hereinafter referred to as the "Board") in order to vote stock
which they own or control of member banks.

This was an entirely

new field of legislation and numerous questions have arisen concerning the Board's powers, duties and responsibilities in administering the

and in acting upon applications for voting permits.

In order to clarify this matter, this memorandum will review the
legislative history of the pertinent statutory provisions and discuss
the Board's powers, duties and responsibilities in the light thereof.
The &liking Act of 1933 contained the pertinent provisions
of law in substantially their present form.

Such provisions, except

certain minor amendments made by the Banking Act of 1935, are set
out in full in the Board's Regulation P, a copy of which has been
furnished to each holding company affiliate.

However, at the outset,

attention is directed to the following provision:




"Any such holding company affiliate may make application
to the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
for a voting permit entitling it to vote the stock controlled by it at any or all meetings of shareholders of
such bank
rustee or trustees holding
s sharethe stock
o
h
holders so to vote the same. The Board. of Governors of
the Federal aeserve System may, in i‘ts_dis_erotion, grant
I withhczid suchL permi.t as the pubiS iPterest may require.

In acting upon such application, the Board shall comider
the financial condition of the _applicant, the genera), chazactor of its maAagement, and the, probable efAtect _of the
granting of _such permit up_on the p.frairs of such bank, but
no such permit shall be granted except upon the following
conditions:" (6ection 5144, Revised Statutes, as amended
by Banking Acts of 1933 and 1935.)
EARLY LEGISLATIVE HISTORY
Agitation for banking legislation had resulted in the introduction of a number of bills in Congress and an investigation by
the House of Representatives prior to 1930.

The original Glass

Bill (S.4723), introduced on June 17, 1930, during the Second session
of the 71st Congress, became the basis for an extensive investigation
of the national and Federal reserve banking systems by a sub-committee of the Senate Committee on Banking and Currency (pursuant to
Senate Resolution 71 of that Congress).

One of the subjects of the

investigation was group and chain banking and in this connection several representatives of large bank holding companies appeared before
the Committee.

This bill and the investigation by the Senate Commit-

tee was the basis of the Banking Act of 1933.
The original Glass Bill contained a provision that no corporation, association or partnership should vote the stock of a national
bank but did not contain a similar provision with regard to stock of
State member banks.

During the investigation it developed that it was

impractical to terminate the holding company affiliate relationships
immediately and that the then proposed legislation probably would result
in holding companies terminating the charters of their national banks




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and reorganizing them as State banks in order to avoid the effect
of such legislation.

The representatives of the holding companies

themselves suggested various forms of regulation to which their
companies might properly be subjected. (See Report of Hearings
Pursuant to Senate Resolution 71.)
On January 21, 1932, Senator Glass introduced a revised
draft of his bill (S.3215) which incorporated new provisions suggested by the information secured by the investigation.

This bill

provided that no affiliate or corporation, association or partnership owning more than 10 per cent of the stock of any national
bank should vote the stock of such bank.

However, in another

section it provided for the issuance of voting permits to such
organizations by the Comptroller of the Currency.

This section

provided that the Comptroller might, in hia discretion, grant or
withhold such permits as the public interest might require but
that no permit should be granted except upon certain specific conditions.

Under this bill the Board would have had no connection

whatsoever with the issuance or revocation of such permits.

Neither

this draft nor the next contained provisions relating to the voting
of stock of State member banks.
On March 14, 1932, Senator Glass introduced a further
revision of his bill (S.4115) which became the basis for further
hearings by the Senate Committee on Banking and Currency.




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this bill the actual issuance and revocation of voting permits
was to be handled by the Board but all other functions in connection with voting permits (relating to examinations and the filing
of agreements) were placed in the hands of the Comptroller of the
Currency.
In testifying before the Senate Committee, the Comptroller of the Currency objected to the regulation of holding company affiliates of national banks without similar regulation of
holding company affiliates of State banks on the ground that such
regulation would force banks out of the national bank system.
During the hearings some objection was also made to the provisions
giving the Board the right to grant or withhold and to revoke
voting permits at its discretion. (See Report of Hearings on
S.4115.)
SUBSTITUTE PROPOSAL OFFERED BY THE BOARD
During the hearings on this bill the Board unanimously
recommended to the Senate Committee two entirely new sections as
substitutes for those then in the bill relating to the regulation
of holding company affiliates.

The outstanding features of this

proposal were as follows:
1.

Holding company affiliates of State member banks as

well as those of national banks were to be regulated.
2.

The regulation of holding company affiliates of

national banks was to be placed solely in the hands of the Comptroller




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of the Currency and the regulation of holding company affiliates of
State member banks was to be handled by the Board.
5.

The issuance of voting,permits was to he eliminated.

the right to vote bank stock was to be made solely- dependent upon the
filina of certain agreements with the Comptroller or the Board as the
case mit4ht be, and the Comptroller and the Board were to be given no
right to use their discretion in granting or withholding the right to
vote bank stock.
This substitute proposal offered by the Board is of particular significance because the Senate Committee rejected it and
incorporated in the next draft of the bill only the first of the
above listed features of the proposal.
PROVISIOM) AS ENACTED.
On April 18, 1932, Senator Glass introduced a new draft of
his bill (S.4412) in which the provisions with reference to the issuance of voting permits were in substantially the same form as the provisions of the Banking Act of 1935.

Holding company affiliates of

&tate member banks were made subject to tho same provisions as holding
company affiliates of national banks and the issuance and revocation
of all voting permits was placed solely in the hands of the Board.
Despite the objections made at the hearings, the Board was directed
to issue or withhold voting permits as the public interest might
require.




For the first time the following language appeared in the bill:

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"In acting upon such application, the Board shall consider
the financial condition of the applicant, the general character
of its management, and the probable effect of the granting of
such permit upon the affairs of such bank * .* * *"
This provision was obviously inserted to supply the Board with
a guiding principle to follow in exercising its discretion in the issuance of permits.

As more fully discussed hereinafter, this provision

was very similar to the provision in section 9 of the Federal Reserve
Act relating to applications of banks for membership in the Federal Reserve System, the references to financial condition and management being
almost identical.
In this draft of the bill, the agency granting the voting permit was for the first time limited in the exercise of its discretion in
revoking such permit by the provision that a permit might be revoked "if
at any time it shall appear to the Board that any holding company affiliate has violated any of the provisions of the Banking Act of 1933 or of
any agreement made pursuant to this section."

A marked similarity may

be noted between this provision and the provision in section 9 of the
Federal Reserve Act relating to forfeiture of membership in the Federal
Reserve System.
This bill also contained the definition of holding company affiliate which appears in the Banking Act of 1933 and provided that voting
permits should be required only of such organizations.

There were copied

into the bill the provisions contained in the previous drafts to the effect that no voting permit should be issued except upon certain conditions
relating principally to examinations, building up of reserves for stock




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liability and divorcement of security affiliates.
This draft of the Glass bill underwent many further revisions
and was debated at length in Congress; but the provisions concerning
holding company affiliates and the issuance of voting permits were
not substantially modified.

They passed virtually unmentioned during

the debates, and the Committee Reports supply little information concerning their intended interpretation.

Group banking was discussed

on the floors of Congress primarily in connection with the proposed
provisions relating to branch banking.

Regulation of holding company

affiliates was not a controversial question since group banking systems
apparently had no friends in Congress and the bill prepared by the
Committee was apparently accepted by Congress without any substantial
questions being raised.

ATTITUDE OF CONGRESS TOaRDS
REGULATION OF HOLDING COMPANY ItIFFILIATES
As previously noted, the regulation of bank holding companies was an entirely new field for legislation.

Congress was

dealing with a subject about which it had little familiarity and
Congressional leaders fully realized this fact.

They ar4aveattr felt

that there were evils to be corrected but that to a considerable extent they were groping in the dark in preparing legislation on the
subject. This is demonstrated by the extensive investigation undertaken and the numerous revisions of the proposed bill.

It is further

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no discussion on the floors of Congress.

Congress was apparently

willing to leave this problem to the committees and its technical
advisers and to the sound judgment of the members of the Board
who were to have charge of the regulation of such companies.

As

stated by Senator Norbeck, a member of the Committee on Banking
and Currency (Congressional Record, Vol. 75, p. 10332, daily publication):
"The new system of banking in the Northwest,
commonly referred to as chain, is, of course, the
group system of banking, controlled by the holding
companies. It has been quite a problem with this committee to know what to do with this new system of banking, which had no foundation in law or in experience.
The committee was of the view that strict regulations
should be enforced, but reached the conclusion that it
was impossible then to enforce very strict regulations.
They did not want to assume the responsibility for important changes in times like these."
However, there is no doubt that Congress desired as
strict regulation of bank holding companies as might prove practicable.

Congressional leaders started out with the idea that

such companies should be completely abolished.

The majority report

of the Senate Committee filed in connection with Senate bill 4412
criticised the group banking system but said that practical considerations made control preferable to complete abolition.

The

minority report filed by Senator Norbeck referred to group banking
as an evasion if not a violation of the law.
On the floor of the Senate, Senator Glass stated that it
was hoped that the strict regulation of the bank holding companies




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would cause them to go out of business.

During the debates on

Senate bill 4412, he said:
"Somewhat akin to investment bank affiliates, we undertake to deal with the question of holding companies, the
system of holding companies being one species of what
is known as chain banking. It is a species of chain
banking that is largely devoid of responsibility. * *
* * But the committee was convinced that they needed
pretty severe supervision, restraint, and examination,
and I want to say for those officials that they were
cheerfully willing that that should be provided. We
have incorporated in that provision of the bill many
of the suggestions made by them not because they were
made by them, but in spite of the fact, because all of
us were very suspicious when we entered upon the consideration of that phase of banking.. * * * * Therefore we have undertaken to encompass them with such
restrictions and restraints and requirements of examination and reporthope, may induce them perhaps
to go out of that sort of banking at their convenience."
(Congressional Record, Vol. 75, p. 10202 - 10205, daily
publication.)
Later during the debates in May, 1935, he said:
"We deal with holding companies, and we deal with them
so severely -- but, I am frank to sLy, with their consent -- that they expect to dissolve within the 5-year
period given them; * * *"
(Congressional Record, 73rd Cong., 1st Session, p. 5819 daily publication.)
.
Senator Wheeler's attitude was shown by the following
reference to one holding company during debates on branch banking
provisions:




"It might be called tothe attention of the Senate that
this corporation, as a matter of fact, was nothing more
nor less than a promotion scheme by a few men in the
Northvest who went out z..nd took a lot of sound, safe
banks in the Jorthwest and poured intc their corporation a tremendous lot of watered stock and unloaded it




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upon the directors, stockholders, and other citizens
of the Northwest.
"The reason why some of those banking institutions
are not in the shape that they. should be today is
not because they have not been part of a branchbanking system but because of poor management and
because they are loaded up with stocks and bonds
which have little or no value today, if ever."
(Congressional Record, Vol. 76, p, 2154 - daily
publication.)
In supporting the branch banking provisions Senator
Vandenberg expressed his views regarding group banking:
,All of the vices, if there be vices, that are
'
conjured against branch banking already exist in
the theory of group and chain banking. The alleged vices exist without the offsetting advantages
of common, open, and mobile responsibility which
exists in branch banking."
(Congressional Record, Vol. 76, p. 1495 - daily
publication.)

CONGRESS INTENDED BOARD TO EXERCISE ITS DISCRETION
There can be no question but that Congress intended the
issuance and revocation of voting permits to be a discretionary
matter.

Evury draft of the bill providing for voting permits

contained express provisions to this effect and stated that
voting permits were to be granted or withheld as the "public
interest" might require.

The Board urged the adoption of its




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substitute proposal which would have entirely eliminated the
elements of discretion and would have given the holding company affiliates the power to vote bank stock as a matter of
right upon filing agreements to comply with certain requirements written into the Act, but this proposal was rejected by
the Senate Committee.

The Board did not want this discretionary

power and representatives of some of the holding companies objected to the Board being given such power; but Congress insisted upon granting it.

CONGRESS WAS CONCERNED WITH FUTURE
OPERATIONS OF HOLDING COMPANY AFFILIATES
Congressional leaders were not only interested in the
present operations of the various bank holding companies but
were also interested in future operations.

Representatives

of some of the companies went to considerable length to show
that the operations of their companies were not harmful to the
public interest.

Senator Glass and Mr. Willis, technical adviser

to the committee, on several occasions suggested by their questions that the high character of the present management was no
guarantee or protection against future mismanagement. (See Record of

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The representative of one

of the large holding companies, in admitting that such was the case,
stated that that was one reason why his company desired regulation.
During the debates, Senator Glass

said:

"Some of these holding companies have been admirably managed,
managed by bankers of character, long experience, and great
skill. Many of them have done no great harm. In fact, they
will tell you that they have done great good. * * * * There is
this to be said, that if one of those holding companies -- as
some of them have -- should come under the administration of
unscrupulous persons, the amount of harm that might ensue is
hard to conceive."
(Cong. Record, Vol. 75, p. 10202-10203, daily publication.)

INTENT OF CONGRESS REGARDING THE PRESCRIBING OF CONDITIONS
Certain conditions to the granting of voting permits were prescribed in the Act, but the language indicates that they are only basic
or minimum requirements designed to correct evils definitely established and known to Congress, and it is apparent that Congress intended that the Board should further regulate holding company affiliates
of member banks.

The Congressional investigation extended into many

features of holding company affiliate relationships and it is indicated
that members of the Senate Committee felt that there w3re other evils
inherent in the group banking system with which they were not specifically dealing but with which they expected the Board to deal in acting upon
applications for voting permits.

As indicated by Senator Norbeck's

comments quoted above, the Senate Committee in drafting the bill did
not deem it practical in the circumstances to write into the bill as




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strict regulations as many desired and insisted on vesting the Board
with discretionary power in order that it might make such further
requirements as circumstances should justify or demand.
As previously noted, the draft of the Glass Bill

which, for

the first time vested in the Board complete jurisdiction over

and sole

responsibility for the regulation of holding company affiliates of member banks, provided that the Bard, in acting upon applications for
voting permits,

should:

"* * * consider the financial condition of the applicant,
the general character of its management, and the probable
effect of the granting of such permit upon the affairs of
such bank, * * *".
The

obvious purpose of this provision was to give the Board a

guiding principle to follow in exercising its discretion with reference to the issuance of voting permits.

It is very significant that

this guiding principle is very similar to, and apparently was copied
feom, the following guiding princ4le contained in section 9 of the
Federal Reserve

Act with reference to the admission of State banks to

membership:
"In acting upon such application the Board of Governors of
the Federal Reserve System sha4 consider the financial condition
of the applying bank, the general character of its management, and
whether or not the corporate powers exercised are consistent with
the purposes of this act."
In adopting a similar guiding principle governing the issuance
of voting permits, Congress knew that for

many years it had been the

practice of the Board in admitting State bunks to membership in the Federal Reserve System to prescribe conditions of membership designed to




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require such banks to create and maintain a sound financial condition
and good management, and not to change the general character
their busincss without the prior approval of the Board.

of

These con-

ditions of membership included both conditions precedent and conditions of a continuing nature.

As recently as 1927 this practice of

the Board hnd been the subject of much discussion in Congress; the practice and the reasons for it had been explained at length, and Congress
had specifically rejected a proposal thich would have taken away from
the Board the power to prescribe conditions of membership for State
banks.

At the time of the enactment of the Banking Act of 1933 the

Board was following the policy of prescribing t: dozen or more standard
conditions in connection with all applications for membership.
In view of its knoTledge of the Board's pr,7ctice with respect
to the admission of

State member banks and in vieu of its action in

prescribing a guiding principle with rcspect to th( issuance of voting
permits very similar to that previously prescribed ':Tith respect to
admission of State banks to membership, it seems reasonable to assume
that Congress intended the Board to follo-r with respect to the issuance of voting permits practices and policif:s very similar to those
which it had followed for many years with respect to the admission of
State banks to membership.




Form No. 131

Office -Correspontence
To

Mr. Hamlin

From

ar,Smead

FEDERAL RESERVE
BOARD

41/
Ehite

November 15, 1935

Subject:

In accordance with - your telephone request, there is attached a
statement showing by Federal Reserve districts the number and amount of
loans to individuals, partnerships and corporations made under the third
paragraph of Section 13 of the Federal Reserve Act from the date that
paragraph was added to the Federal Reserve Act, July 21, 1932, to
November 8, 1935.
The figures in the attached statement do not include loans to
individuals, partnerships and corporations secured by United States
Government obli,ations made under the last paragraph of Section 13 of
the Federal Reserve Act.

Under this paragraph the Federal Reserve banks

made 82 loans amounting to $4,845,136.

Attachment.

VOLUME 265
PAGE 91




411.

LOANS TO INDIVIDUALS, PARTNERSHIPS AND CORPORATIONS
MADE UNDER PARAGRAPH 3, SECTION 13, OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE ACT,




JULY 21, 1932 TO NOVEMBER 8, 1935.

Federal
Reserve
Bank
Boston

Number of Individuals,
Partnerships and Corporations accommodated.

Amount

2

$35,000

New York

3S

806,500

Philadelphia

20

117,202

Cleveland

••••••••

Richmond
Atlanta

6

122,650

Minneapolis

26

113,922

Kansas City

31

256,298

123

1,451,572

Chicago
St. Louis

Dallas
San Francisco

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Confidential
R. and S.
November 20, 1935#

MEMORANDUM ON PROPOSED REQUEST FOR INFORMATION RE LARGE DEPOSITS

Purloose
The Board of Governors in formulating its general policies is
interested not only in the volume of deposits but also in_the turnover,
now and in the future.

One factor that has a bearing on the turnover

is the distribution of deposits among different economic groups, about
which almost no current information is available.

Since

1933

$51- billion of new demand deposits have come into existence,
happened to this purchasing power?

over
What has

Has it been distributed among all

economic groups or has the bulk of It come to- Tost tcnporarily in large
corporate accounts?

It is known that deposits in New York and Chicago

are far in excess of their 1929 peak,

It is also known that demand de—

posits in the central reserve city and reserve city neriber banks have
increased over

$4

billion since

1933.

If this represents a growth of

large corporate balances what bearing will this have on the probable
future demandfor bank credit and on the volume of new capital issues?
As there are over fifty million separate accounts a complete cover.-age and classified distribution of deposits would be a large task.HIt
is known, however, that in 1933 about 45 percant of total deposits .1,4re
,,r
in 47,000 accounts of over $50,000 each. It appears, therefore, thib-"'
information on the larger accounts in the Larger banks would throw cAl—
siderable light on what has happened to the deposits created in the
past two years while involving a ninimum of trouble to collect.

3R,T4gmw.loi265



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Procedure
The original suggestion was to obtain information on identical
accounts at intervals during the past six years.

If, however, the

inquiry were confined to a few accounts in a few banks it would be
impossible to determine whether the changes shown were actual changes
in corporate accounts or merely represented shifts between banks.
it
If the inquiry were limited to the period since the bank holiday
is believed that changes due to shifts of deposits would be minimized.
It is now proposed, therefore, to investigate the feasibility of obtaining information on all accounts above a certain amount, classified by
manufacturing, trade, public utility and railroad, financial, personal,
and other, as of a recent date, and the same accounts as of June 30,
1933.

The broad classifications would preclude the possibility of

identifying the ownership of any deposit.

If the information here

suggested were obtained it would throw light upon the present distribution of the larger deposits and would aid in determining what has
happened to the deposits created by Government financing and by inflows
of gold.
Questions
The specific questions on which assistance is solicited from the
Advisory Council are as follows:
Accounts above what size in New York and Chicago banks would
include some 30 or 40 percent of their deposits?
2.

Accounts above what size in the 76 largest banks outside of

New York and Chicago would include some 25 percent of their deposits?




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3.

Would the tabulation and classification of such accounts

involve much inconvenience?

Before proweding with the inquiry the answers to these questions
would be sough,; from the individual bankers affectedt

In the meantime

the Board will appreciate any assistance the Advisory Council may give
it in this matter.




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November 21, 1935.

Mr.-Hamlin:

At the request of Mr. J. H.
Member
Frost,
of the' Federal Advisory
Council, I am sending you herewith a
copy of a letter of this date from Mr.
Frost to Chair= P-iccles and a copy of
the statement referred to therein for
your personal information.




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ilowialhar

1:.- )36.

Ilenorable Morriner Bo Ifieslee, allairmale
Board of Governor. St Pisdoral itesorve
vashinden. Di* Qc,,
DOWS,aleoloas
In view of the diffieulties involved in a general
dissuasion in which twenty nen are taking part, I feel that I
would Ube the privilege of presenting to you a eon et the
statement whiah .1 made to the Advisery couneil &a sumo* of
the resolution anthorisin,:-; the statement mode by the council
to the Board today, and whisk latter statement I prepared Auld
ressenended to the Cowmen for adoption* As stated to Ir.
killer in the Joint meeting* there was -neither a dissenting
/Os nor an unfavorable comes* fro* way member of the Omincil.
Illy diseire, purely ullefficia13.y,
this statement is
Ow
the
submitted
to
they
have unanimously
yen has been
eippreved althea* Mr* Perkins bed *rakes
eft the meeting and
opippresaity
of
tworessing
ilapeelAt
MA as
Istsrally I de not request that you maks ani
Ornement or reply although this, of course, is net inter A to
battiest* that I should not be glad for you to complete:. "allow your own inclination and desire in that reepoet*
IP

I only weed, you to have my personal views in nor*
oemprehensive and intelligible forst than they *WA be arts, this ameleing. and I as sending a copy
pressed at the smotin6
to each number of the board of Govmpaore. I as aloe wattng
a oopy to re* Oradmiebiser aro that he nay possibly understand
my point of vita* Of wires Ian not trying to convert hix.
to ny views and an sorry that What I said this morning could
have been understood as being equivalent to such harsh critisian
as shaming a "defilement* of the Systems




Very truly Inure,

Since the last meeting of the Federal Advisory Council,
when the Council presented to the Federal Reserve Board a resolution
bearing upon the static condition of the holdings of Government obligations by the System, I understand that a considerable amount of
discussion has taken place over the Country, and some expressions by
people of importance have been made, recommending that something be
done to eliminate or reduce the present volume of excess reserves,
in order to lessen the probability of a wild orgy of credit inflation by the banks of the Country.
It is my personal conviction that the danger referred to
is a very real one, and that prevention is much more feasible and
desirable than correction after the movement is well under way.

In

the interest of brevity, I shall not discuss the many reasons why
the danger is imminent, or all of the many advantages of preventive
over corrective measures.
I shall merely call your attention to the fact that more
than two years ago, after a season of run-away purchases of Government obligations, which reached the almost incredible total of
$2,430,000,000.00, and created excess reserves of more than

$soo,000,000soo,

the management of the Federal Reserve System dis-

continued these purchases on the grounds, either, that they had
created enough excess reserves to arrest a deflation which, to some
people, seemed to be a necessary and natural phenomenon of readjustment, or that additional excess reserves would not accomplish the
purpose.

Since that time somewhere between two and three billion

dollars (nearer the latter amount) of gold imports have come into
the Country, thus enabling member banks to completely eliminate rediscounts, to increase excess reserves to more than three billion




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dollars, and at the same time to purchase I know not how many additional Government Bonds.

In the face of these momentous phenomena,

the managers of the Federal Reserve System have allowed' matters to
drift with no action whatever designed to affect the course of events,
and it seems clear to me that we have now reached a point where the
Federal Advisory Council can no longer postpone the giving of constructive advice to the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System without being guilty of neglect in the performance of an
obligation clearly imposed upon them by law.
It is my further understanding that the matter has had
the earnest consideration of the Board of Governors of the Federal
Reserve System, and that also the Open Market Committee of the System
have been considering what action, if any, should be taken by the
System at this time with respect to the matter.

Also, the Council

has received a communication from the Board, commenting upon the
Resolution of the Council previously referred to, and suggesting
that, "If the Council has any proposals to make with respect to the
operation of the Open Market Account of the Federal Reserve System,
which it believes to be pertinent in the existing situation, all
factors considered, the Board will, as in the past, be glad to
receive them and consider them."
In view of this suggestion or invitation it is my belief
that the Council, if it wishes to maintain a proper relationship
with the Federal Reserve Board and perform its statutory function,
should take a clear and well defined position and make carefully
considered recommendations which will be for the best interest of
the Country as a whole, and which can be justified by sound logic
and sound economic theory.




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I have understood, correctly or not, that, in most discussions by those who have spoken publicly, and by the Open Market
Committee as well, there has been considered the advisability of
action upon two distinct lines:

1.

The selling or "permitting to

run off" of a portion or all of the holdings of Government securities
now held by the Federal Reserve System,

2.

The raising of Reserve

requirements, as now permitted to the Federal Reserve Board under
the Banking Act of 1935.

And I have further understood, correctly

or not, that the second method has generally been recommended, and
that in fact the Open Market Committee have so expressed themselves.
I shall assume, for the purpose of discussing and comparing the merits of these two plans, that the Council agrees with me
that the use of one or the other is desirable at the present time.
Even if the Council should conclude, after consideration, that no
action whatever is desirable at this time, the question of which
method to use first, will some day be up for decision, and a discussion now of which will be the correct procedure will certainly
not be out of place or entirely wasted.
It is, of course, apparent to everyone that selling Governments or increasing reserve requirements will decrease the amount
of excess reserves, but there is a vast difference between the other
effects of the two actions, and to me the distinction seems to be of
paramount importance.

The first method would reduce reserves pre-

viously created by arbitrary and artificial action (this language
should not be construed as a condemnation of that action at the time
that it was taken, although I personally disapproved), whereas, the
second method would not change the amount of reserves in the slightest degree.




It would simply change the name of a part of these

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artifically created reserves from "excess" to "required", although,
of course, it is true that either action would have the immediate
effect of lessening the amount of bank credit which could be built
upon reserves as now carried.
I fully agree that over expansion of bank credit is the
danger most apparent to all of us, but I do not agree to the proposition that it is the only danger or the most serious one, - simply
the most apparent to those who have not thought the problem through
to a correct conclusion.
A question of much greater importance is that of the
purity and soundness of our currency, and of the reserves of Member
Banks, which are potential currency, and on which, as a base, all
bank credit is superimposed.
Of course, we all know that Silver Certificates and United
States notes or greenbacks are unsound elements in our currency
structure, but since the Federal Reserve System can have no direct
control over those forms of currency, I shall leave them out of this
discussion.
Reserves of Member Banks and Federal Reserve Notes, when
they are represented by gold holdings or gold certificate holdings
of the System up to a full one hundred percent, are, of course, free
from all impurity, but the moment that either Federal Reserve Notes
or Member Bank Reserves are issued or created against anything other
than gold or gold certificates, it is my opinion that, precisely to
a corresponding extent, the purity cmommandrocas of the circulating
medium, or of Member Bank reserves (the basis of bank credit) has
been impaired.

TIM=4;then Federal Reserve Notes are issued,

or Member Bank reserves are created against re-discounts or bankers,




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acceptances, is not a serious one in reasonable amounts, for the
reason that the underlying security is of a self-liquidating nature,
and, as the need decreases, the amount of such secured notes or such
created reserves will automatically and correspondingly decrease.
In fact, this fluctuating dilution of the purity of both Federal Reserve Notes and Member Bank Reserves is the basic underlying theory,
and the most desirable feature, of the Federal Reserve System, since
it supplies the elasticity necessary for expansion to meet emergencies or unusual demands, and then to automatically contract after
the need or emergency has disappeared.
When, however, Federal Reserve Notes are issued or Member
Bank Reserves are created against Government Bonds owned by the
System, the

/7-is a serious one, and much more so than when

against other assets, for the most excellent reason that Government
Bonds are not self-liquidating instruments, and currency secured by
them or bank reserves created by them are absolutely "fiat", and
just as dependent on the unsecured promise of the Government as if
no Bonds whatever had been issued or pledged.

Just as if the Gov-

ernment had paid its expenses with "printing press money", which
would immediately come into the hands of the banks, and be deposited
in turn with the Federal Reserve Banks, thus creating Member Lank
Reserves, or potential currency to be withdrawn at will.

Likewise

the supply is not automatically elastic, but is dependent upon the
judgment of a small group of human beings to be known as the "Open
Market Committee".

It is, therefore, my reasoned opinion that hold-

ings of Government Bonds by the System should be of a very modest
amount (from two to three hundred millions) which can be increased
and diminished from time to time for the purpose of moderating




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seasonal fluctuations in the money market, and also to alleviate
to a degree the effects of non-seasonal and unusual imports and exports of gold.

Certainly, today, without fear of successful demon-

stration to the contrary, we can make the statement that this Country,
or the banking system, is operating on the basis of "fiat" currency
or "fiat" reserves - one or the other, to the extent of
$2,430,000,000.00, dependent for soundness upon absolutely no other
single thing than an unsecured promise of the Government.

Unques-

tionably, this condition should never be permitted to occur, even
in the case of a poverty-stricken people, and certainly not in a
Country of the power, resources, and gold holdings of the United
States of America.
If my reasoning up to this point is sound, and if excess
reserves should be reduced or eliminated, would it not be far sounder
policy to reduce or eliminate them by following the first method
(selling or permitting Governments to run off) and thus, at the same
time, to purify both the circulating medium and the holdings of the
System, representing Member Bank reserves.
I fully realize that, even after the Federal Reserve System may have disposed of its entire holding of Government obligations, the Treasury Department might release the so-called "gold
profit" of two billion dollars in one way or another, by the purchase
of a corresponding amount of Government Bonds for cancellation, or
to be held by the Treasury, by the payment of a Soldiers' bonus, or
by using it to defray the general expenses of the Government, although I understand that, under either of the last two mentioned
methods, new legislation would probably be necessary.

Assuming

that the Treasury Department should follow any one of these courses,




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two billion dollars of new excess reserve would be immediately created, and, in such case, in order to curb an undue expansion of bank
deposits by the extension of bank credit on the base of reserves so
created, there would only be left as a method, the invoking of the
power of the Federal Reserve Board to increase reserve requirements,
which, to my mind, might be a most desirable or even urgently necessary course to pursue.
I appreciate the truth of the published statement of at
least one of the very prominent economists of the country to the
effect that the vast over expansion of credit between 1922 and 1928
was largely due to the very low reserve requirements which we had
inaugurated during the War, and that a raising of the reserve requirements would diminish the potential effect of a given volume of
reserves, insofar as future expansion of credit is concerned.

How-

ever, the first thing to do, and the thing of the greatest importance, to the soundness of the banking structure, is to purify the
currency, and to purify the composition of member bank reserves, by
the elimination of Government obligations from Federal Reserve holdings, or by reducing such holdings to a small amount; no larger than
necessary for their proper function outlined above.

Then, if fur-

ther curbs should be necessary to check unsound expansion of bank
credit, will be the time to begin to increase reserve requirements.
Now, as to the practical working of the two plans It has been urged that reduction of the amount of Government Bond
holdings would cause selling by banks, and a depreciation in the
market price of bonds.

Naturally, this is literally and necessarily

true, but isn't it equally true that increasing reserve requirements
will have the same effect?




I am keenly conscious of the fact that

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an action by the System, either by one method or the other, will
drastically affect the market price for Government Bonds, of which
we and most good banks hold an inordinate and disproportionate
amount, but, at the same time, I believe that any fair-minded and
sound thinking banker, if he thinks the matter through, will inescapably reach the conclusion that we had all of us better face the
fact that our Government Bond holdings are only worth present market
prices, due to the fact that the Federal Reserve System has created
$2,430,000,000.00 of "fiat" reserves by the purchase of Government
obligations on the open market to a corresponding amount.

Beyond

question, this is an artificial situation, and one which was never
contemplated by the original framers of the Federal Reserve Act, or
by the sound economists who, during the life of the Federal Reserve
System, have defended it as a sound agency for holding the reserves
of Member Banks, and for furnishing to the country a safe and, at
the same time, elastic circulating medium.

Some day the System must

e purged of this impurity, and never will we see a time so favorable for its elimination as when excess reserves are sufficient in
volume to permit the entire operation without forcing rediscounts
by Member Banks.

What a ghastly mistake it would be to increase

reserve requirements, and at a later date attempt to eliminate Government Bond holdings which then could only be accomplished with the
accompaniment of the acquisition of an equal amount of rediscounts,
by drastic credit deflation, or by a reversal of policy, and a reduction of reserve requirements previously established.
The longer we put off the necessary correction, the more
devastating will be the effects.

Suppose we wait until the banks

of the country have loaded up with a few billion more bonds at still




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higher prices, and then still longer, until there may have arisen
an appreciable demand for the use of bank credit for commerce, industry or agriculture, or for all three of them, or let us suppose
that we wait until gold is moving outwardly instead of inwardly, as
will surely happen one of these days - is it not all too apparent
that a reduction of the System holdings at that time would create
a condition in the bank capital structure too horrible to contemplate?

Without any qualifications whatever, I state that, if the

Federal Reserve System does not at once begin the process of purification of the currency and their investments representing the reserves of member banks, there will never be a time when any political
administration, including the Congress, will permit, or could afford
to permit, any reduction whatever in the bond holdings of the System.
If the System intends to allow to pass by, the present opportunity
to reduce or eliminate fiat reserves, would it not be fairer to
everyone to make it entirely clear by legislative action that the
United States intends permanently to operate with a currency or
Member Bank reserve structure built upon a minimum government bond
holding by the System of $2,430,000,000.00?

Is it fair, or even

honest, for the Government to sell bonds to its citizens on a market
absolutely created by the System holdings of such bonds, unless its
citizens are assured by legislation that these holdings will in
perpetuity be maintained?

And is there a member of this Council,

or a member of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System,
or a reputable economist in the country, who would be willing to
recommend or sponsor such legislation?

Why should a nation capable

of maintaining the soundest currency in the world and a banking
system capable of operating on the soundest reserve structure in the




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world deliberately resolve to permanently have the most artificial
and unsound base for its currency or bank reserve structure (a Government promise) which has ever been conceived in all the hundreds
of years of currency and credit manipulation and experimentation?
Would any one have the temerity to recommend the return to a currency redeemable in specie with this mountain of sand for a foundation?
Now, let us see how changes in reserve requirements would
actually function.
Is it not true that, if they should be frequent, they
would make it utterly impossible for banks to intelligently lay out
and follow a credit policy without constant fear of an arbitrary
action by the Board?

This desirability of avoidance of frequent

changes in reserve requirements means that, if reserve requirements
are to be increased at all, it should be done by a substantial increase at one stroke, say 25, 33-1/3 or 50%.

A 25% increase would

be equivalent to the sale in a single day of approximately
$625,000,000.00 bonds, and a 50% increase would correspond to a
sale of $1,250,000,000.00 bonds.

How much safer and more reason-

able would it be to allow the Government Bond holdings to run off
a reasonable amount per week, and then to gradually increase the
run off" as, in the judgment of the Open Market Committee, might
seem to be feasible and advisable.

Think of the advantage of being

able, if the effects seem to be too severe, to reverse the policy
from time to time and buy back a part or all of the amount which
had been permitted to run off.

In other words, the first plan is

flexible, while the second plan is rigid, and a step once taken can
be retraced or modified only with great difficulty, and with the




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inevitable result of dangerous confusion to the planning of Member
Banks.

These reasons seem to me to make it clear that, from an

administrative standpoint, the first plan is so much more workable
that there should be no hentation as to choice, but the basic and
soundest reasons for preferring it are those given in the earlier
part of this discussion:
Momber Bank reserves.

purifi,cation of the currency, and of the

Let us not eliminate excessreserves by any

procedure whatsoever which will leave the impurity untouched, and
thus make permanent a "fiat" element in the currency or the bank
reserve structure.
Bankers and the general public, as well, are enjoying
the seductively pleasant sensations which uniformly accompany an
inflation of the currency.
True it is, beyond peradventure, that its elimination will
lower the market price of government bonds, but the loss and suffering which would occur as a result of corrective measures at this
time will be as nothing in comparison with what the people of this
country will have to bear if the correction be much longer delayed.




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Form No.131

Office Corresponitence
To

Mr. Hamlin

From

Mr. Carpenter

FEDERAL RESERVE
BOARD

Ehae

November 251 1935.

Subject:_

urn

CONFIDENTIAL
There are attached for your information copies of the statement
and recommendations submitted to the Board by the Federal Advisory
Council at the meeting on November 21, and copies of three letters
received from the Secretary of the Council nnaer date of November
231 1935.




16---852

Copy
FEDERAL

ADVISORY

COUNCIL

38 South Dearborn Street
Chicago, November 23, 1935.

Dear Mr. Morrill:
I beg to acknowledge receipt of your letter of
October 30 in which you state that the Board of Governors
of the Federal Reserve System would be interested in receiving any proposal which the Federal Advisory Council might
wish to make in respect to the statement wHich it handed to
the Board on September 24, 1935, in which attention was
called to the large amounts of government bond holdings in
the System and which have not varied for a long time.
I am instructed to inform you that the Council
adopted at its meeting on November 20, 1935, a recommendation which it handed to the Board of Governors of the
Federal Reserve System at the joint meeting of November 21.
In view of the fact that the Federal Advisory Council was
advised by the Chairman of the Board of Governors of the
Federal Reserve System that the Board does not have the
authority to initiate open market operations, the Council
requests the Board to submit the recommendation to the Open
Market Committee and it wishes that the Board would submit
this recommendation to said Committee at an early date, if
necessary calling a special meeting of the Committee for
that purpose.
Very truly yours,
(Signed) Walter Lichtenstein
Secretary
Mr. Chester Morrill, Secretary
Board of Governors of the
Federal Reserve System,
Washington, D. C.
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Copy
FEDERAL ADVIPORY COUNCIL
58 South Dearborn Street
Chicago, November 25, 1955.

Dear Mr.
I beg to acknowledge receipt of your communication of November 12, 1935, in which you convey the information to the Federal Advisory Council that the Board of
Governors of the Federal Reserve System is desirous "of asking a small grou of the larger member banks to fill out a
schedule showing in each case the deposits of the bank's
fifty or one hundred largest depositors on four dates in
each year for the past six years, classified by a broad
classification, etc." I am instructed to inform you that
the members of the Council as individuals see no reason why
banks should not be willing to give the information requested by the Board. They feel certain that the banks which they
themselves represent would be willing to do so. On the other
hand, the Council as such did not feel that it was advisable
for it to take any action in this matter and believed that
the Board should ap-roach member banks entirely on its own
responsibility.
Very truly yours,
(Signed) Walter Lichtenstein
Secretary
Mr. Chester Morrill, Secretary,
Board of Governors of the
Federal Reserve System,
Washington, D. C.




Copy
FEDERAL /DV SORT COUNCIL
38 South Dearborn Street
Chicago, PTovember 2F), 1935.

Dear Mr. Morrill:
You will recall that at the joint meeting of the
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System and the
Federal Advisory Council which adjourned at 1:05 P. M. on
Thursday, November 21, there was considerable discussion
regarding the question of publication of Recommendation No.
1 of the Council dealing with the question of open market
operations and excess reserves. After the adjournment of
the joint meeting, the Council met alone and authorized
the President of the Council to hand a memorandum to the
Chairman of the Board of Governors to read as follows:
'
,The Council believes that its recommendation
numbered I of November "1, 1935, dealing with open market
operations and excess reserves of member banks Should be
nu'-lished on or before December 20, 1935, which will ,7ive
mr,le time for consideration of this recommendation by the
Open Market Committee of the Federal Reserve System."
Very truly yours,
(Signed) Walter Lichtenstein
Secretary
Mr. Chester Morrill, Secretary,
Board of Governors of the
Federal Reserve System,
Washington, D. C.

RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE FEDERAL ADVISORY COUNCIL TO
THE BOARD OF GOVERNORS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM

November 21, 1935.
Topic No. 1.

Open Market Operations.

RECOMMENDATION:

The Federal Advisory Council, in view of the fact

that it has been advised by the Chairman of the Board of Governors of the
Federal Reserve System that the Board does not have the authority to
initiate open market operations, requests the Board to submit the following recommendation to the Open Market Committee and to call for that
purpose a special meeting of said Committee at an early date.
The Federal Advisory Council of the Federal Reserve System has received the communication of the Board of Governors of the System, wherein
reference is made to the statement of the Council made to the Board at
its meeting of September 24, 1935, concerning the amount of Government
securities held by the System, which has not varied for a long time, and
calling the attention of the Board to the basic theory of open market
operations: that there should at all times prevail sufficient flexibility
to prevent undue expansion and contraction in the credit structure of
the country.

The Council enquired whether the Board agreed with the

principle enunciated.
The present communication of the Board recognizes "the necessity
for the consideration of the factors referred to in the statement as
elements in the determination of open market policy" and closes with the
statement that "if the Council has any proposals to make with respect to
the operation of the open market account of the Federal Reserve System,




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which it believes to be pertinent in the existing situation, all factors
considered, the Board will, as in the past, be glad to receive them and
consider them".
The Council is fully cognizant of and thoroughly appreciates the
importance and significance of the obligation imposed upon it by law "to
confer directly with the Federal Reserve Board" and "to
in regard to discount rates, rediscount business, note
iercomnd
issues,
reserve condons in the various districts, the purchase and sale of
gold or securities by reserve banks, open, market operations ja said banks,
anI the general affairs of the reserve banking System", and it has given
its most careful and earnest consideration to the suggestion by the Board
that it will be glad to receive from

eIunc

such proposals as it may

make with respect to the open market account of the System.
As a result of this consideration

eIunc

desires to call the

attentiIn of the Board to the fact that, since the discontinuance, more
than two years ago, of open market purchases by the System, excess reserves
of member banks held by the System have now reached the unprecedented total
of more than three bon dollars, which may well be considered as a IS
upon which addonal bank credit can be extended to the extent of at least
thirty bon dollars with a corresponding increase of bank deposit
bilities.
The Council believes that there have now been some considerable
dences of recovery in business, of an increase in prices generally, and
parti,cularly in the security markets of

eIcunr

with the possibility,

at Least, that a too rapid advance of security prices could easily develop




-3into a new wave of speculation such as preceded the market collapse of
1929.

The constant pressure of the very large excess reserves of the

member banks creating a plethora of the available supply of bank credit
has a very distinct tendency to foster and encourage speculative activity,
increase prices, and raise the living cost of the population.

The Council

believes that, even with the practically complete elimination of excess
reserves, the banking system of the country would still be prepared and
ardently desirous of meting any and all legitimate and proper demands
for bank credit, and it i; strongly of the opinion that, in order to
obviate the probability of an undue and dangerous credit inflation, it is
desirable from every point of view to eliminate or at least greatly reduce
the excess reserves now being carried in the System.
Since the enactment of the Banking Act of 1935, there exist two
methods by which this can be accomplished.

1.

The selling or "permitting

to run off" of a portion or all of the System holdings of Government securities.

2.

Raising of reserve requirements.

The Council has most earnestly considered the question as to which
of these two methods might be the more desirable under the present circumstances and has determined to recommend as strongly as possible the first
method.
The controlling reason for this is the indisputable fact that so
long as Government bonds are held under the ownership of the System, either
the currency of the country or the reserves of member banks, to a corresponding extent, are dependent entirely upon a Government obligation.

The

world history of currency and banking has demonstrated the dangers inherent




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in such a system or policy too many times to make it necessary for them
to be elaborated upon in this communication,
There is, however, another reason for preferring the first method,
namely, the ease and flexibility with which it may be administered.

Under

that method, Government security holdings may be permitted to run off or
may be sold, rapidly or gradually, as in the judgment of the Open Market
Committee, may seem to be feasible or advisable.

If at any time, the

effects seem to be too severe, it is possible to suspend or even temporarily
to reverse the policy.
Under the second method, namely, increase of reserve requirements,
rigidity is substituted for flexibility, since it must be entirely apparent
to any one that frequent changes in reserve requirements would create a
chaotic condition in planning for the future by member bank management.
Finally, the Council wishes to make perfectly clear to the Board
that, after Government security holdings of the System have been eliminated
or greatly reduced, and if, then, further curbs upon speculation should
seem to be desirable, there would certainly be no possible objection to
an increase in reserve requirements.

On the contrary, it would become

the clear and plain duty of the Board fearlessly and promptly to take
such action.




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RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE FEDERAL ADVISORY COUNCIL TO
THE BOARD OF GOVERNORS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM

November 21, 1935.

Topic No. 2.

Regulations in Respect to Margin Requirements on
Collateral Loans of Banks

RECOMMENDATION:

The Federal Advisory Council understands that the

Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System is contemplating
issuing regulations to deal with the control of collateral loans
to be made by banks.

The Council, therefore, reaffirms herewith

its recommendation of May 15, 1934, reading as follows:




"The members of the Federal Advisory Council are of
the opinion that the Federal Reserve Board before issuing
regulations under this bill, provided it is enacted into
law, should make a careful study as regards the needs of
the situation. It should be pointed out that the power
conferred on the Board is to be permissive and not mandatory. Consequently, there is no need for the Board to issue any regulations until there is evidence that there is
necessity for them. In general the members of the Council
feel that if the Board conscientiously can refrain from
adding unnecessarily to the innumerable regulations, orders,
and laws of all kinds under which banks are at present compelled to operate it will be doing a distinct service.
"If and when the Federal Reserve Board deems it necessary and advisable to issue regulations under this provision of the proposed law then it is to be hoped that the
Board will bear in mind the need for maintaining adequate
markets not merely for securities listed on the more important exchanges of the country but also for securities
which have merely a restricted local market and those which
are sold over the counter and not listed. Stringent regulations may result in destroying the market for the securities of small worthy industries and thereby possibly destroy
these industries themselves by making it impossible for them
to obtain needed capital"

e

The Federal Advisory Council acknowledges receipt of
the letter of the Secretary of the Board of Governors of the
Federal Reserve System dated November 12, l935 in which the
Board asks the advice of the Council in reference to "the desirability of asking a small group of the larger member banks
to fill out a schedule showing in each case the deposits of
the bank's fifty or one hundred largest depositors on four
dates in each year for the past six years, classified by a
broad classification", etc.
The members of the Council as individuals see no objection to banks giving the information, but the Council as
such does not desire to express an opinion on this subject.




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GOVERNORS'

CONFERENCE

.ashington, D. C.
October

23, 1935

The meeting was called to order at 12:00 o'clock noon.
PRESENT:

Governor Call‘ins, Chairman, and
Governors Young, Harrison, Norris,
Fleming, Seay, Newton, Schaller,
Martin, Geery, Hamilton, and Deputy
Also Deputy
Governor Gilbert.
Governor Burgess,
Mr.Strater, Secretary.

TOPIC

REQUIREMENT OF BOARD OF GOVERNORS THAT
REPORTS OF IgDEBTEDNESS OF EPLOY7-27
17 YEE FEDERAL T2T7
ERVE Adfffs, TTMT-

LIENTS "EE :IADE SEMI-ANNUALLY.

BOSTON

Under date of April 29, 1933, the Federal Reserve Board ad.
dressed letter X-7425 to all Federal Reserve Agents requiring
that reports of indebtedness of all employees. e..''the Federal Reserve Agents' Departments, as of July 1,

1933,

be furnished to the

Federal Reservz, Board, and suggesting that the Boards of Directors
of the several Federal Reserve banks give consideration to the
adoption of - a similar policy with respect to indebtedness of bank
officers and bank employees.

Subsequently, in its letter of Dec-

ember 20,1934 (X-9052), the Board requested that reports of indebtedness of members of the staff of the Federal Reserve Agent be submitted semi-annually as of January 1 and July 1 each year.
Governor Yourig explained that the Board of Directors of the
Boston reserve bank requires an annual report of indebtedness from
each officer and employee of the banking departments, and that it
was somewhat inconsistent to have different policies in effect in
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the two divisions of the staff of the bank.
The discussion developed that for the most part tho reserve
banks are now requiring only annual reports from bank officers
and bank

employees, as experience indicates much more time is

consumed in obtaining reports from the larger staff in the banking
departments and in comparing reports with those previously made,
as woll as in compiling a resume for consideration by the Board of
Directors of the bank e

It was the consensus of opinion that the

practice in this regard should V° uniform in its application to
both classes of employees.
VOTED

to as

It was therefore

the Board of Governors to revise its request

for semi-annual information regarding indebtedness of employees of
the Federal Reserve Agents' Departments and to provide instead annual reports in conformity to the general practice of the Federal
Reserve banks,

TOPIC - REPORT OF LEASED WIRE COMMITTEE
copy of the report of the Leased ':Tire Committee dated
October 21, 1935, was furnished to each of the Governors and, after
a general discussion of the committee's recommendations, it was
VOTED

that the report be accepted and the committee's recom-

mendations approved.

TOPIC - REPORTS OF STANDING COMIIITTEE ON

The report of the Standing Committee on Collections dated
July 12, 1935, at the request of Governor Calkins, Chairman of the
Governors' Conference, was submitted to each of the Governors directly by the Chairman of the committee.

This report deals with

the desirability of uniform procedure in handling telegraphic



transfers of bank balances, in round amounts, for the account of
nonmember clearing banks over the commercial wires, at the expense
of such banks
VOTED

After discussion, it was
that the report of the Standing Committee on Colloo.

tions, dated July 12, 1935. be accepted, and its recommendations
with respect to telegraphic transfers of funds for the account of
nonmember clearing banks be approved.
The report of tho Standing Committee on Collections dated
September 23, 1935, which was submitted previously to each of the
Governors at the request of Governor Calkins, Chairman of the
Governors' Conference, was also considered &

This report deals

with the handling of drafts, as cash items, by Federal Reserve
banks received on Saturday drawn on nonbanking institutions which
arc closed on Saturday, and reviewed its recommendations made in
previous reports,
VOTED

After discussion, it was

that the report of the Standing Committee on Colleo..

tions. dated September 23, 1935, and its recommendations that
each Federal Reserve bank determine for itself a method of handling drafts drawn on nonbanking institutions received on Saturday
and whether the float arising therefrom should be absorbed, be
approved.

TOPIC

REPORT OF COLIIAITTEE ON REIBURSABLE EXPENSES

Governor Fleming, Chairman of the committee, submitted an
informal report on the progress made by the committee since the
last Governors' Conference, and explained that the committee had
deferred taking up the subject of reimbursement for actual expenses with the Treasury and various governmental agencies, because of the fact that major banking legislation was under




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Itself.

After discussion, it was

VOTED

that Governor Flemingls report be accepted as an in-

terim report of the committee, and the committee was instructed
to continue its studies and report to the next conference.

It

was the sense of the conference that the committee should take
reasonably prompt stops to ascertain from the Troasury and the
various Government agencies, the extent to which they will agree
to reimburse the Federal Reserve banks for expenses chargeable to
these agencies under the instructions contained in the Expense
Manual.

TOPIC - SHIPMENTS OF CURRENCY AND COIN TO NON.
MEMBER BANKS WITHIN THE DISTRICT AND
Y7 710INTS BEYOND DISTRICT LIMITS --

Kansas City

The discussion which followed developed the fact that most
of the Federal Reserve banks were making shipments of currency or
coin, or both, to nonmember banks within the district upon the request of their member banks, and the shipping charges were collected from the member bank making the request.

It also developed

that shipments to points beyond district limits were made in some
cases but only to a limited extent.
VOTED

It was

that this is a reasonable service to extend to non-

member banks within the district, provided the shipment is ordered
by a member bank from its Federal Reserve bank, and, provided fur.
ther, that the shipping charges arc reimbursed to the Federal Reserve bank.
VOTED

It was also
that there is no objection to performing the same ser-

vice, upon the same basis, for nonmember banks in adjoining




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districts at the request of a member bank to its Federal Reserve
bank, provided the nonmembor bank is located in a city or town
adjacent to tho district boundary; and, provided, that sach a
service may be performed more expeditiously and conveniently than
would be the case if it wore initiated by a mombor bank in the ad.
joining district.

TOPIC.DESIRABILITY OF RESERVE BANKS ADOPTING
A IlcliviE=FIEDULE -TOTDIUXT SEITDINn
BY AIR MAIL

CLEVELAND

After discussion, it was
VOTED

to refer this topic to the Standing Committee on Col.

loctions for study and report to the next Q011ftrcmCce

TOPIC - REPLACKIENT OF OLD FOIL' FEDERAL RESERVE
NOTES

NEW YORK

It devolopod during the discussion that a large volume of
new undolivored Federal Reserve notos, of the old series, are hold
for the account of the Federal Rotorvo banks.,

It appeared to be

the desire of the Treasury to avoid, if possible, the further distribution of Fodoral Reserve notes boaring the gold redemption
clause, and that it would be desirable to print a sufficient quantity of the new form, without the gold clause, for distribution to
tho Federal Reserve banks.

The expense of making this change is

oat/mated at approximately $2,000,000 for the System, and there

was some qu-stion as to whether tho cost of the change should be
borne by the Federal Roserbo banks or by the Treasury.

While no

action was taken, tho hope was expressed that the Treasury might
arrange to assume this expense.




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TOPIC

MEETING DAYS OF DIRECTORS

RICHMOND

This topic was discussod in the light of the amendment to
tho Federal Reserve Act embodied in the Banking Act of 1935.
which .requires each Federal Reserve bank to establish rates of
discount and purchases, subject to the review and determination
of the Board of Qovernors of tho Federal Reserve System, every
fourteen days, or oftener if deemed necessary by the Board of
Governors.
VOTED

It was
that it is desirable that meetings of the Boards of

Directors of the twelve Federal Reserve banks be held on the same
day, and that the Board of Governors be asked to arrange with the
several Federal Reserve banks for uniformity in this regard to
become effective after February 1, 1936.

TOPIC

FAIMENT OF CHARGES ON I:COMING CURRENRICHMOND
CY a51757t7TT------

It was the consensus of opinion that if, as, and when - further reduction in the expenses of the several Federal Reserve

banks was doomed necessary or desirable, consideration should be
given to a discontinuance of absorption of transportation expenses ia connection with shipments of incoming or outgoing currency,
or both.

TOPIC - POSTAGE SURCHARGE ON CURRENCY AND
RICHMOND
Governor Seay expressed the opinion that the heavy surcharge
imposed by the postal authorities on shipments of currency and
securities

wt-As

out of proportion to the service performed, par-

ticularly as the charge covered transportation only and Federal
Reserve banks are obliged to effect insurance at additional cost




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to them

It was his conviction that the Federal Reserve banks

should be exempt from the application of the surchargol

After

discussion, it was
VOTED

that the Board of Governors be requested to consult

with the postal authorities with a view to bringing about a discontinuance of the surcharge applying to such shipments made by
the Federal Reserve banks,

TOPIC • ACCEPTANCE OF DEPOSITS OF UNINVESTED
TRUST FUNDS IA FEDERAL RESERVE
BARS (Board letter X-9253 of
fuly 1, 1935)
4111.1.1111.•••••imlit.••••••••

The Board's letter was discussed in detail, and it was
VOTED

to recommend that a member bank operating a separate

trust department, or a trust company engaged exclusively in conducting a trust business and owned by a member bank, be permitted
to carry, at the option of the Federal Reserve bank, an account
on the books of the Federal Reserve bank representing trust funds
awaiting investment or distribution%

Transactions in such trust

account must be confined to transfers to and from the reserve account of the member bank%
Governors Seay, Schaller, Norris, and Fleming voted in the
negative..
Adjourned at 12:50 o'clock p4 me to reconvene immediately
as the Federal Open Market Committeo4

At 2130 o'clock p. in. the conference reconvened with the
same attendance as at the previous session%




TOPIC - BOARD OF GOVERNORS BUILDING ACCOUNT
1.
REVISIO/ OF ACCOUNTING PRUt-

DIJRZ-T7-FERITTY

rHARaz.opr

6P

ENTIR - AMOUNfi OF ASSnUffgTS
OA EtTALISHITEITT 5T APPROPRIATE RESERVES

SAN FRANCISCO

The setting up of an asset account on the books of each of
the several Federal Reserve banks, representing assessments paid
to the Beard of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, to provide
for the acquisition by the Board, in its own name, of a site in the
District of Columbia for the purpose of providing suitable and adequate quarters for the performance of its functions, was considered to be undesirable because of the involved character of the trans
action and, after discussion, it wae
VOTED

that amounts levied by the Board of Governors of the

Federal Reserve System to purchase a site and erect a building to
house the Board, be charged to Profit and Loss by the Federal Ro.
serve banks.

TOPIC - PUBLICITY REQUESTED BY MEMBER BANKS
--INCLUDING NE7TSPAPER COPY TO BE
"PREPARED BY THE TYSTE2- FnTURING
AT TIMES PAR CHEC/ CLEARANCE

CHICAGO

After a general discussion, it was
VOTED

that the furnishing of such publicity material be

loft to the discretion of the individual Federal Reserve banks.

TOPIC - SYSTEM INTEREST IN THREATENED LITIGATION WITH TRUSTEES OF FLETCHER.
777,TICAN NATION,a BANK

CHIC.AGO

Governor Schaller explained that the liquidating trustees of
the FletchermAmerican National Bank of Indianapolis, Indiana, were
seriously considering filing a suit against the Federal Reserve




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Bank of Chicago to recover the amount of drafts drawn by the
Fletcher-American National Bank on its reserve account prior to
the declaration of a banking holiday in the State of Indiana,
and which were subsequently paid by the Federal Reserve Bank or
Chicago.

Due to the involved situations created by the declar-

ation of banking holidays in numerous states,and restrictions int..
posed upon the withdrawal of deposits in various localities, it
was felt that serious complications might arise if the threatened suit was actually filed and successfully prosecuted*

After

discussion, it was
VOTED

that if such a suit is filed against the Federal Re-

serve Bank of Chicago, it shall be deemed a matter of System interest and that general counsel for the Board of Governors may,
in his discretion, call upon counsel for one or more of the Federal Reserve banks for assistance, or with the approval of the Board
of Governors employ special counsel to defend the suit.

TOPIC - GRANTING OF SICK LEAVE TO EMPLOYEES
12 EMISS O THrRTY DAYS

KANSAS CITY

Governor Hamilton referred to the Federal Reserve Boards
letter X.7303 of December

5, 1932,

which centomplates that individ-

ual consideration of each leave of absence, on account of sickness,
be considered and the payment of salary approved by the Board of
Directors of each Federal Reserve bank.

It was the general opinion

that consideration of such cases by the Board of Directors each
month involves a discussion of many minor details, and that, in any
event, the Board of Directors depends very largely upon the executive
officers of the bank to determine if such salary payments are justified.




After discussion, it was

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VOTED

that a definite procedure for the approval of the

payment of salaries to employees absent on account of sicknoss
be adopted by the Board of Directors of each Federal Rosorve
bank, and that such procedure be submitted to the Board of Gov.
ernors for approval.
VOTED

It was further

that Governors Hamilton and Martin be appointed a

committee to discuss this matter with the Board of Governors.

TOPIC - RESPONSIBILITY OF CHAIRMEN AND
--751
-2SIDENT8 OF FEDERAL REnRVE
STNIt 'UNDER 77:7717T7TroF 1935

PHILADELPHIA

After a brief discussion, this topic was passed without
action.

TOPIC

REVISED REGULATIONS OF BOARD OF
GOVERNOR-t

NEW YORK

It was understood that the Board's regulations were being
tentatively revised by the Board's staff preparatory to consid.
eration by the Board, and that copies of the tentative revisions
were being sent to each of the Federal Reserve banks for consideration and suggestions,

This topic was therefore passed with-

out action&

TOPIC .DISCOUNT RATES
In-LOANS
RATE

on.

NEW YORK

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The Governors discussed the whole matter of rates under
this provision of the Act, and it was the general opinion that
the establishment of an abnormally low rate at this time was of
no particular importance; nevertheless, it was felt the fact that
most of the reserve banks had established 10b rates at the minimum figure stated in the Banking Act of 1935 should not be construed as a precedent which would prevent appropriate increases



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in the rate commensurate with the character

or

the collateral

and the earnings therefrom accruing to the member bank.

YORK

TOPIC - FOREIGN EXCHANGES

NE

TOPIC - GOLD AND SILVER 210VEMENTS AND
InNUTAITTZTABILTZATT7N

NEVI YORK

Governor Harrison left the meeting at 3:30 o'clock pe m.,
and advised the Governors that he would send to ouch of them a
memorandum covering the above topics.

TOPIC - REOPENING OF PRIVATE CAPITAL MARKET
1. —7EFUNDIrd—TRD NE'j ITSUES
2.
MORTGT.GE MOT'? MARKET
COTERATIU7 WITI1 FEDERAL
STITTMG ADMINISTRATION
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NEW YORK

Deputy Governor Burgess discussed these topics informally,
but no action was taken.

Adjourned at 4:00 o'clock p. m, to meet with the Board of
Governors at 10:00 o'clock a, m. on Thursday, October 24.




H. F. STRATER
Secretary.

REPORT OF STANDING COMMITTER ON COLLECTIONS
TO
GOVERNOR J. U. CALKINS, CHAIRMAN OF GOVERNORS' CONFERENCE
July 12, 1935

The following topic was submitted to the Standing Committee on
Collections by the Governors' Conference of May 27 and 28, 1935,
with the request that the Committee's report and recommendations
be presented to the Chairman of the Conference:
DESIRABILITY OF UNIFORM PROCEDURE IN HANDLING
TELEGRAPHIC TRANSFERS OF BANK BALANCES IN ROUND
AMOUNTS FOR .4CCOUNT OF NONMEIZBER CLEARING BANKS
OVER COMMERCIAL ITIRES AT EXPENSE OF SUCH BARKS.
In its letter of February 21, 1922 (X•3337), the Federal Reserve Lioard adopted certain rules and regulations for the guidance
of Trederal reserve banks in connection with wire transfers of
funds. These regulations provided that telegraphic transfers
should be accepted from and paid to member banks only but stated
"as some of the Federal reserve banks are under obligation to
accept telegraphic transfers from their nonmember clearing banks,
they may for the present continue to make such transfers." It
appears that under these regulations Federal reserve banks were
temporarily permitted to make telegraphic transfers for nonmember
clearing banks over the leased wires. In its letter of June 21,
1924 (X-.4099) the Federal Reserve Board issued revised regulations
governing the use of the Federal reserve leased wires and the making of telegraphic transfers both over the leased wires and the
commercial wires. These regulations, which were adopted uniformly
by all Federal reserve banks, provided that telegraphic transfers
of funds should be accepted from and paid to member banks only,
whether such transfers were made over the Federal reserve leased
wires or over the commercial telegraph wires, and since July 1,
1924, the effective date of the regulations, there has existed
no provision for making telegraphic transfers for nonmember clearing banks.
The Standing Committee on Collections in its report to the
Governors' Conference of April 1, 1929, covered very fully (pages
3.9) the whole subject of transfers requested by nonmember banks
and recommended (page 4) that the Board's regulations as set forth
in its letter of June 21, 1924 (1-4099) be amended to permit telegraphic transfers of funds to be made for nonmember clearing banks
under the same conditions as they were made for member banks.
This reoommendation was not approved by the Governors' Conference,
it having been felt that nonmember clearing banks should not be
furnished the same transfer service as member banks, and the
Board's regulations were not changed.




The Committee has given further consideration to this sub.
jeot and feels that, since nonmember clearing banks are permitted
to carry clearing accounts with Federal reserve banks, and since
reserve banks collect checks drawn on them, some provision,
however restricted, should be made which will permit them to
transfer funds both to and from such accounts.
The Committee recommends, therefore, that the Federal Reserve
Board be requested to amend its regulations to provide that telegraphic transfers of bank balances in round amounts, i. e. multipies of 4100 be tiocepted from and paid to nonmember clearing banks
and that such transfers be made only over the commercial telegraph
wires at the expense of such banks.
If this recommendation be *reproved by the Governors and accepted by the Federal Reserve Board, it is further recommended
that the semi-annual par list issued by the Board include a list
of nonmember clearing benks by districts in the same manner that
state member banks are now shown, and that the monthly supplements
to the par list record the changes in the list of nonmember clearing banks, in order that the operations of the Federal reserve
under the revised regulations may be facilitated.
,,anks
The Committee suggests for the consideration of the Federal
Reserve Board the followirr paragraphs of revised rules and regulations for uniform use by all Federal reserve banks in their
circulars relating to wire transfers:
r:RA'ZSFI:RS OVER LEAL;ED
1. Only transfers of bank balances in round amounts, that is
multiples of $100, will be made over the Federal reserve leased
wires. The term "bank balance" shall be construed to mean an
accumulation of funds comprising en established account maintained by a member bank with its Federal reserve bank or with
another member bank.
2. Telegraphic transfers of funds over the leased wires will
be made for and paid to member banks only. Such transfers will
be made without cost to member banks.
The descriptive data in telegrams transferring bank balances
over the leased wires must be limited to the amount to be transferred, name of the member bank to receive credit and, when
necessary, name of its correspondent member bank, and name of
member bank with which request originated.

3.

4. Transfers of the proceeds of individual collection items will
not be made over the leased wires.
The Federal reserve banks maintain, at large expense, a
leased wire system over which it is necessary to transmit a heavy
volume of important communications. Member banks are requested
to cooperate with us in attempting to avoid overcrowding the
leased wires by not making requests for telegraphic transfers of

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as well through the
small amounts, or those which can be made
mails.
TRASFERS OVFR COMIaRCIAL WIRES
for any purpose and in any
1. 'Ielegraphic transfers of funds
iptive data will be made
amount and without limitation as to descr
r banks. While such
membe
for
over the commercial telegraph wires
to member banks only,
transfers will be accepted from and paid
vidual, firm or corporaindi
,
they mey be for the use of any bank
tion.
ces in round amounts, that
2. Telegraphic transfers of bank balan
the commercial telegraph
is multiples of $100, will be made over
transfers will be acwires for nonmember clearing banks. Such
of any nonmember clearing
cepted from any member bank for the credit
for the credit of any
bank, and from any nonmember clearing bank
bank.
member bank or any other nonmember clearing
reserve banks transThe cost of all telegrams between Federal
wires will be charged
ferring funds over the commercial telegraph
for which the transfers
to the member and nonmember clearing banks
should prepay the
are made. Ilember and nonmember clearing banks
telegrams to
and
s,
sfer
tran
cost of telegrams requesting such
it will be sent
cred
sing
member and nonmember clearing banks advi
'collect."

3.

LIABILITY OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK
will use due diliThe Federal Reserve Bank of
telegraph to the
gence and care in the transfer of funds by
to the account of the
receiving Federal reserve bank for credit
errors or delays
payee bank, but will not be responsible for
caused by circumstances beyond its control.




Respectfully submitted,
Standing Committee on Collections.
O.
C.
H.
J.
J.

U. Attebery
H.Coe
F. Striates
.16. Toy
S. Walden, Jr., Chairman

October 21, 1935
REPORT OF iriE LEASED WIRE COMMITTEE
To the Conference of the Governors
of the Federal Reserve Bankss
At the ',lay 1935 Conference of Governors, the Leased gire
Committee submitted a letter received from the Federal Reserve
Board under date of May 7, 1935, commenting upon the. recommends.
tions of the Leased 4ire Committee contained in its report dated
November 30, 1934, and approved by the Governors' Conference at
its meeting in Nashington on February 5, 1935. The Leased Wire
Committee had recommended certain changes in the accounting
procedure ana had also suggested changing from Morse to Teletype
service. The Federal Reserve Board reviewed the report and
suggested (1) that further consideration be given to the advisability of the Federal reserve banks' billing direct to various
Governmental agencies for the cost of business sent over the
main line wires; (2) that with respect to Teletype equipment*
the committee make a further study with a view to determining
whether the page machine or the tape machine is preferable, as
uniformity in the type of machine to be adopted is desirable, and
(3) that the Leased Wire Committee make some recommendation as
to the policy to be pursued by the Federal reserve banks in
connection with vrsonnel in the event Teletype service should
installed throughout the System. After conferring with the
various Federal reserve banks, the committee makes recommenda.
tions as followss
1.

2.




In view of the fact that it will be necessary in
order to secure reimbursement to furnish copies
of telegrams sent over the leased wires for the
acreount of Governmental agencies, whether the
billing is made direct or through the Federal
Reserve Board, it is recommended that all such
agencies be billed direct by the respective bank
and the Board for the cost of messages sent over
the main line wires.
Six banks have indicated a preference for the tape
machine and four banks for the page; one can adapt
itself to either, and one, while stating that it is
not in favor of chantilm from Morse to Teletype service s stated that it felt the page machine was less
desirable than the tape machine. Teletype tape
equipment service is now in effect on the following
main-line oirouits:

Chicago-San Francisco
Chicago-Kansas City
Chicagoa.Dallas
Chicago-St. Louis
Chioago-..linneapolis
The committee will give further study to this subject
before making a recommendation.

3.

The committee recognizes that the personnel problem is
a difficult one and feels that to a large extent this is
sonething that each bang will want to work out for itself.
The committee recommends, however, that in the event the
change is made from orse to Teletype each bank should
mak, every effort to adjust this problem as soon as possible in order that the system is not charged with salaries
in excess of those thct should reasonably be paid to cola.
potent teletype operators. This might be effected by finding other positions for their present Morse operators in
the bank or elsewhere, or in lieu of this by giving them
ample notice so that they may adjust their vffairs accordingly.

:he suggestion was recently made by one of the Federal reserve
banks that a considerable saving in cost would be effected if certain
mainline wires were re-routed. Pccordingly, the Leased Wire Committee requested the American Telephone 14 Telegraph Company to make
a survey of the traffic handled on the wires which would be affected
by the proposed change with a view to determining whether or not
such re-routing would be practical or advantageous. This survey has
just been completed and the representatives of the telephone company
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state that while the proposed re-routing as originally submitted
would not be advisable, it appears that certain changes in the
present setup may be possible which will result in some reduction
in cost. The committee will give this matter further study and when
conclusions have been reached will take the matter up with the offices concerned.
In view of the foregoing, the committee suggests, that the
recommendations with respect to accounting procedure be put into
effect as soon as practicable without awaiting further developments
on the Teletype or re-routing the wires. These recommendations
which follow are the result of questions which have previously been
raised, and with the exception of Aecommendation No. 9 are substantially, those contained in the Committee's report which was approved
by the Governors' Conference in February 19351




1.

Is the expense of operating the Leased Wire System
properly allocated?
It is the sense of the committee that a more accurate
record would be reflected if the leased wire operations of the Federal Reserve 3oard were set up as a
direct expense incurred by it and if in the monthly
reports showing classification and number of words
transmitted sqoh operations of the Federal Reserve
Board were included in that portion of the report which
has heretofore been confined to the various Federal
reserve banks,

2.

Is the cost of reimbursable business handled over the
leased wire system properly allooated/
It is believed that the present plan for allocating
reimbursable expense in connection with messages
transmitted over the main lines of the Leased dire
System, namely, in proportion to the total nuber of
words handled, is satisfactory. (For proposed change
in the method of securing reimbursement, see aeoommenda.
tion No. 9)

3.

Should messenger service be charged to leased wire operations?
It is felt in view of the varied practices among the
Federel reserve banks that meseenger service should
not be charged to the Leased lire System, except
possibly in the case of the Federal Reserve Board, if
it develops that in its ease it is necessary to maintain a messenger service to make delivery of telegrams
to the Treasury Department.

4.

Printing and Stationery.
The cost incident to printing and stationery appears to
be comparatively small, and it would seem that the
expense of maintaining records incident to determining
such cost would offset any savings that might accrue by
charging the cost to leased wire operations. It is
therefore, recommended that such cost be abosrbed by
each individual bank.

5.




Cost of counting the number of words in messages.
It is believed that the expense incident to counting
the number of words is an appropriate item to be
charged against leased wire operotiens; also other
clerical help which is assigned exclusively to work
on main line business.

6.

Expense in connection with branch wires.
The branch wires are essential for communication between
the head office and the branches, and insofar as such
operations rare concerned it is felt that branch wire
expense should not be charged to the Leased Wire System.
However, it is suggested that each Federal reserve bank
ask for reimbursement from the Governmental agency con
corned for the cost of 1,ranch wire messar..;es if the volume,
in the opinion of the bank, warrants reimbursement.

7.

Salaries.
As indicated in the Board's letter, operators' salaries,
operators' overtime, retirement contributions, and wire
rental are now being charged to the Leased Wire System
and we believe such charges should be continued. In
addition to such items, we believe that supper money
should be considered as a proper charge.

8.

Salrriea of Washington operators.
While such salaries are carried on the payroll of the
Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago at present, we believe
in view of the practice outlined under Recommendation
no. 1 that salaries, overtime, supper sv..)ney, workmen's
compensation insurance premiums, contributions to the
retirement fund, et cetera, incurred in the Washington
Leased Wire Office should be paid by the Federal Reserve
Board.

9.




Advisability of having each reserve hank bill the various
Governmental agencies for the cost of messages sent over
the main line leased wires by the banks for the account
of such agencies, rather than to follow the present practice of reporting reimbursable business to the Board,
which in turn charges the respective agencies.
The committee recommends that each Federal reserve bank
bill the various Governmental agencies direct for the
cost of messages sent over the main line leased wires
by the banks for the account of such agencies.
Respectfully submitted,
George J. Schaller, Chairman
Georse H. Hamilton

REJORT OF STANDING CWMITTEE ON COLLECTIONS
TO
CONFERENCE OF GOVERNORS

September 23, 1935

At the request of the Federal Reserve Board the following topic was referred
to the Standing Committee on Collections by Governor J. U. Calkins, Chairman of the
Governors' Conference, in a letter dated August 16, 1935, in which he asked the
Committee to make its report and recommendations to the next Governors' Conference:
HANDLING OF DRAFTS (as Cash Items) BY FEDERAL RESERVE
BANKS RECEIVED ON SATURDAYS DRAWN ON NON-BANKING
INSTITUTIONS WHICH ARE CLOSED ON SATURDAYS.
The Board's letter requesting Governor Calkins to refer the question to the
Standing Committee on Collections contained the folloring paragraphs:
"The Federal Reserve brlak in writing to the Board stated
that the question for determination is vbether such items
received in cash letters for presentation on Saturdays
should be handled by the Reserve bank as cash items with
the Federal ReFerve bank absorbing the float until Monday
or whether they should be treated as non-cash collections
for credit to the bank's endorsers when paid.
"It is assumed that similar situations may exist in other
districts and for this reason it is felt desirable to
have the Standing Committee on Collections of the Federal
Reserve System look into the question and submit a report
and recommendation at an early date with respect to the
policy it feels should be followed by the Federal Reserve
banks in the handling of auch drafts."
For a long time it has been the practice of certain large non-banking institutions to draw drafts on themselves, usually payable through banks.

These items

as a rule are collectable at par and serve the purpose of checks although they nre
technically non-cash items.

The method of h-ndling by Federal Reserve banks in the

different districts has alwvs varied and when the uniform circular regarding "Collection of Cnsh Items" which was adopted by all Federal Reserve banks effective
September 2, 1930, was being drafted by the Standing Committee on Collections and a
sub-committee of counsel for the Reserve banks, including Mr. Wyatt of the Federal




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Reserve Board, the question was raised as to whether Reserve banks should be permitted to handle such items as cash items.

It was finally agreed that, inasmuch

as such items were collectable at par and could be handled very easily as cash
items while it would be burdensome and impracticable to handle them in large volume
as non-cash items, the Reserve banks should be permitted at their option to receive
and handle them as cash items, and the following paragraph was included in the uniform circular under the caption "Items which will be accepted as cash items":
Such other items, collectable at par in funds acceptable
to the Federal Reserve bank of the district in which
such items are payable, as we may be willing to accept
as cash items. When any such item is accepted as a
cash item, we will give credit therefor in accordance
with the provisions of this circular and our time
schedules; but with respect to such item the "Terms of
Collection" set forth in our current circular on the
subject "Collection of Maturing Notes and Bills, or
other Non-Cash Items" will apply.
It will be seen from this paragraph that when such items are collectable at par
they may be handled as cash items and credited in accordance with the published
time schedules but are subject to the same terms of collection as non-cash items
It was not intended that such items should be considered as checks cr that they
should necessarily be handled as cash items but simply that a Reserve bank be permitted to receive and handle them as cash items if it desired to do so as a matter
of convenience subject to the uniform terms of collection applicable to non-cash
items.
On July 14, 1932, the Standing Committee on Collections rendered a report
to the Chairman of the Governors' Conference regarding the questions involved at
that time in the receiving and handling by Reserve banks of items which were
formerly drawn directly on or payable at banks but which were then being drawn by
the makers on themselves payable through banks or on themselves directly to avoid
the payment of the tax on chocks.

As stated above it was the purpose of the uni-

form Check Collection circular of September

1930, to permit Federal Reserve

banks in the districts where such items were payable to determine whether they




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Upon the

passage of the Revenue Act of 1932 and the imposition of the check tax, however,
the practice became very general for business concerns, Yhich formerly had drawn
checks on their commercial banks, to draw drafts on themselves.

It was realized

that such items were taking the place of checks and it would be exceedingly impracticable, expensive and disrupting to the departmental organizations of the Reserve banks to suddenly begin handling as non-cash collections such a large volume
of items which were formerly checks.

It was also thought that it -;ould be very

confusing unless all of them were handled uniformly either as cash items or as
non-cash items.

The Committee recommended therefore that such items when col-

lectable at par be handled only as cash items, and if the bank through which they
were payable would not pay them as cash items without the deduction of exchange,
the Reserve banks should decline to handle them at all.

The report stated that,

inasmuch as the number of depositors drawing items on themselves payable through
banks or on themselves directly was increasing and the practice was becoming
general because of the tax on checks, great confusion would exist in the Reserve
banks unless they adopted a uniform policy with respect to handling and receiving
such items, and in view of the conditions in the Reserve banks the Committee felt
that they should not be handled except as cash items.

This recommendation was

made in the then existing emergency, but since the tax on checks is no longer in
effect and no occasion exists now for depositors to draw drafts on themselves to
avoid the tax, the Committee can see no reason why Federal Reserve banks, in the
handling of such items, should not revert to the practices in effect under the
uniform circular prior to the passage of the 1932 Revenue Act and so recommends.
With respect to the handling of such items received on Saturdays which are
drawn on institutions which are not open for business on Saturdays, the Committee
is of the opinion that, since conditions in the various districts are so entirely
different, it is not practicable, and probably not desirable, for the practices of




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the Reserve banks to be uniforu, but that each Reserve bank should decide.for
itself how such items will be handled according to the merits of each case, the
volume of items, the conditions existing in the locality in which they are payable,
and its own experience under the laws of the states within its district.

It seems

to the Committee that under the Negotiable Instruments law the Reserve banks would
be safe in holding such items when received as cash items on Saturday for presentation on the following business day (Monday), and in doing so they are further
protected by reason of the fact that while such items are received and handled as
cash items they are, according to the terms of the Chock Collection circular under
which they are accepted, subject to the terms of collection applicable to non-cash
items.

The Committee feels that there should be no objection to the absorption of

the float resulting from the hold-over of such items for ono business day, which
in the vast majority of cases would be of little consequence.

The question of

Auch float will be absorbed, however, should be left to the determination
of ea llikerve bank in deciding how it will handle such items.
whethi




Respectfully submitted,
Standing Committee on Collections
0.
C.
H.
J.
J.

M.
H.
F.
M.
S.

Attebery
Coo
Strater
Toy
Walden, Jr., Chairman