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April 23, 1995

Derivatives, Technology, and Challenges Ahead
Remarks by
Susan M. Phillips
Member, Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
at the
Conference of State Bank Supervisors
San Antonio, Texas
April 23, 1995

Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
Comments Before the Conference of State Bank Supervisors
San Antonio, Texas
April 23, 1995

Introduction.
I am delighted to be here to address the CSBS. It is particularly a pleasure at a
time when the commercial banking system appears to be so strong. The
industry has posted its third consecutive year of record profits; bank capital
ratios are near 20-year highs; and the volume of nonperforming assets has been
sharply reduced.

The strength and competitive posture of the U.S. banking system has
implications not only for the country's long term economic growth, but also for
the viability and success of the dual banking system. We have seen the types of
unwanted responses that can come from regulatory agencies and from the
Congress when the condition of the banking system declines too far. We have
also seen the kinds of problems that borrowers and local economies can have
when their access to credit is interrupted. Such interruptions can occur either
because their banks failed or were merged out of existence or because the lender
needed to rebuild its own strength.

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Fortunately, we now seem to be on a different track than we were in theearly 1990s. Washington even seems to have a friendlier attitude toward the
banking industry. Future challenges for the banking system more likely may
come from sources that are fundamental to the nature of banking and to
financial markets, rather than from politicians or even bank regulators.

In my remarks today, I want to discuss some of the trends in banking that
I believe will challenge both the industry and bank regulators in the years ahead.
Certainly I will talk about derivatives-that is an important challenge for us all.
But I believe it is time that we put derivatives into the proper context of all the
challenges facing the banking industry and its regulators. As we address these
challenges, it is important that we work together, hopefully learning from the
lessons of the past.

Technology and Innovation
A principal challenge—and a source of new opportunity-is technology and
financial innovation. Both directly and indirectly, technology is fundamentally
changing the nature of financial institutions and the activities of bank
supervisors. These changes affect the prospects for current and potential legislation.

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One of the more obvious effects of technology has been the creation and
tremendous growth of securities activities and derivatives products and the
increased importance of managing market risk. Not only large banks, but many
small and medium-sized institutions, have turned increasingly to derivatives,
structured notes, and securitized products in an effort to manage risks and to
enhance their returns.

In large part, this trend is good. Despite the highly visible problems of
some investors and traders, the Federal Reserve has consistently argued against
legislation that would restrict or discourage the use of derivatives. We believe
derivatives are useful products that can help bankers manage risk. By providing
risk management tools, derivatives fundamentally help promote economic
efficiency and real growth. Because of the leverage and complexity of these
instruments, however, they can also create significant risks if improperly used.

The key, as several unfortunate experiences demonstrate, is to understand
and manage the risks appropriately. Toward that end, the Federal Reserve and
the other federal banking agencies have issued a number of policy statements
designed to improve the management of risks in new, more complex financial

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products.

In 1993, both the OCC and the Fed issued guidance regarding bank-

use of derivative instruments. A few months later, the Fed also distributed an
extensive trading activities manual to its examiners and to the large trading
banks. Last year, all three federal banking agencies--and the OTS as well
--issued further guidance regarding the risk of structured notes. All of us
highlighted the risks in these products and emphasized the need for banks to
analyze the risks carefully before making purchases.

In our guidance, the Federal Reserve has emphasized the management of
activities and risks, rather than the management of product lines. Banks should
manage the underlying risks, regardless of what an instrument is called. That
approach seems most sensible to us, especially in an era of rapid innovation.

Whereas our 1993 guidance focused on trading activities, a companion
statement issued late last month focused on investments in securities and the
management of derivative products held by end-users. There are notable
differences between the two documents, but both stress the same underlying
principles:

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(1)

The need for boards of directors and senior management to be
informed and actively involved in the risk management process, and

(2)

The need for adequate policies, information systems, and procedures
for measuring and controlling risk.

Day by day, the business of banking and the practice of risk management
become more complex. Banks and other financial institutions have adapted by
developing increasingly more sophisticated methods for measuring risks.
Supervisors are adapting, as well. Evidence of this supervisory evolution can be
seen in the structure of recent regulatory capital proposals incorporating market
risk.

Less than two weeks ago, for example, the Basle Committee on Banking
Supervision issued for comment proposed capital standards for trading activities
of internationally active banks. An important element of that proposal was the
alternative it offered for banks to base their capital standards on the results of
their proprietary models. This offer to accept internal models is precedentsetting for bank regulation and acknowledges the complexity of bank activities
and the advances some in the industry have made in measuring and managing risks.

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Nevertheless, when developing the standard, supervisors believed that it •
was necessary to place some restrictions on the modelling process in order to
achieve the required level of rigor and consistency among banks. But even in
developing the standard, the restrictions were designed to be as compatible as
possible with the industry's own risk management procedures.

A similar approach was taken in the domestic proposal for measuring
interest rate risk that was issued for comment in September, 1993. As with the
recent Basle initiative, that IRR proposal also offered banks the use of their
internal models. Indeed, that 1993 proposal may have helped pave the way for
the international agreement that proposes the use of internal models for trading
accounts. The IRR measure is still being finalized, but it should be issued
sometime this summer and will continue to offer a significant role for bank
internal models.

As we go forward, we might see more supervisory and regulatory
techniques that rely upon a bank's own evaluations when we can be satisfied
that a bank has sound management practices in place, including internal controls
and risk management systems. This approach stresses that the responsibility

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•rests with management to design and enforce sound policies, practices, and
controls. I believe that is the only approach that can work in the long run.

Supervisors need to understand the risks and ensure that the bank's
practices and procedures are appropriate and consistent with its activities. Thus,
increased emphasis must also be made simultaneously on improvements in the
quality of disclosure, regulatory reporting, and even accounting data. But the
focus should be on making sure that the banker is doing the job well, not on
second guessing bankers or dictating detailed management procedures. That
approach, which avoids micro-management, seems more practical, even
necessary, with the advance of technology and the growing sophistication of risk
management techniques.

The Basle proposal that I mentioned illustrates the kind of risk
measurement techniques available to banks as a result of advances in portfolio
theory, financial pricing models, and technology. In this case, the modelling
technique relies on a concept known as "value at risk." This is a statistical term
that identifies the maximum loss that one might expect to incur from a particular
portfolio during a specific period of time with a specified level of statistical

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confidence. For example: "I can say with 95 percent confidence that the bankwill not lose more than $10 million on its existing trading portfolio by close of
business tomorrow."

To be able to make that statement, the banker must know the bank's
exposures--in a timely manner and in detail, and must also have information
about the historic volatility of relevant market rates and prices and, depending
upon the nature of the model, even their correlation. Of course, the bank also
needs a modelling system to pull it all together.

Such complex and data-intensive calculations produce a much more
accurate measure of risk than some of the traditional standardized "rule of
thumb" approaches to risk and capital management. Such techniques, though,
require a good deal of computing power, but that aspect is becoming less of a
problem every day. I recently read that if, during the past 30 years, Detroit had
kept pace with Silicon Valley, a new Chevrolet would get 2,000 miles/gallon,
cruise at 7,500 miles/hour, and cost 12 cents. Today, and more so in the future,
banks must be able to process and evaluate information ever more efficiently.

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Better Analysis of Credit Risk
While banks, at least the largest ones, are applying complex statistics and risk
measurement techniques to market risk, much more needs to be done with credit
risk, which remains the principal risk for most commercial banks. The difficulty
in this area centers around the availability of data. Decades of data are readily
available about the market prices for stocks, bonds, and foreign exchange rates.
But there is virtually no comparable database for loans-at least not for loans to
small unrated companies, which are the principal business customers of small
banks.

With the ever-increasing power of computers, one way or another, more
needs to be done bv the industry to improve the efficiency and effectiveness of
the lending process.

I do not mean necessarily improvement with respect to the

administrative procedures of processing and documenting loans, but rather with
the process of analyzing and pricing credit risk. Otherwise, banks will continue
to repeat the same mistakes of reducing prices and credit standards in good
times and then suffering when the bad times come. Unless progress is made in
this area, bankers will become more and more vulnerable to nonbank

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competitors who are more willing and able to distinguish between different
levels of credit risk.

By their nature, banks operating in small communities tend to know more
about the character and personal characteristics of their current and potential
customers than do larger banks operating in large urban areas. That has been a
fundamental strength of the small bank, and one that has helped it to compete
effectively, so far. However, this traditional advantage may be eroded by
technology and the increasing capability of larger institutions to harvest
available information for all that it's worth, and to use that information for their
marketing, credit scoring, and risk management efforts. It is important that
banks of all size keep alert—not to resist the inevitable march toward more
efficient financial markets, but to remain responsive to a customer's condition
and needs.

Pressures on Operating Costs
Growing competition has placed a great deal of pressure on banks to reduce
operating expenses and to economize. Since 1990, the number of commercial
bank employees in the United States has fallen by 2.0 percent-that's 30,000

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jobs. The number of commercial banks has declined much more--by 15 percent,
or almost 2,000 institutions. Meanwhile, bank assets have increased by 18
percent.

The result of all of this is greater productivity in the banking system, but
it is also pressure that I'm sure all of you feel. Moreover, it is pressure that is
not likely to diminish in the next few years, with the removal of interstate
branching restrictions and with further erosion of barriers between securities
firms and banks. Many of you will continue to feel pressure to reduce or
minimize costs. Such steps may be necessary, but they can also present
potential pitfalls, as banks—like so many other industries today-try to restructure
their operations.

Cost cutting presents a particular challenge for all of us-banks and
supervisors. If institutions are too ruthless in cutting costs, they may undermine
the loyalty and the commitment of their remaining employees. All institutions
need officers and staff who are willing to make a commitment and whose goals
and philosophies are consistent with their own. As a central banker and a bank
supervisor, I have seen many cases where institutions failed—and even where

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markets were jolted-because employees were poorly trained, supervised, or
committed to their work, or because executives, themselves, had only short-term,
self-interests in mind.

In the months and years ahead, federal and state supervisors will need to
revisit their own operating structures as interstate branching begins to kick in.
How we respond to this fundamental change in the structure of the banking
system can have important implications for the future of the dual banking
system. National banks could have a material advantage if their supervisory and
application procedures are much more streamlined than those for state-chartered
banks. State and federal supervisors must take appropriate steps to ensure that
our own procedures are not excessive and that we do not have redundant,
inefficient, and costly exams.

Conclusion
On behalf of the Federal Reserve, I look forward to the next few years as we
deal with the challenges ahead. We are likely to see banking legislation that we
want and to experience further gains in technology and financial innovation.
This is an excellent time for banks to reassess their goals and future prospects

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and to ask themselves how they can best deal with the challenges, make an
adequate return, and meet their customers' needs. Supervisors clearly have
some planning and coordinating to do of their own.

The balance sheet and general financial strength of the U.S. banking
system is stronger now than it has been in decades, and the economy-while
slowing—is still relatively strong. It may be tempting to let credit and other
operating standards slip, as has happened at such times in the past. I hope we
can all learn from the mistakes of the past and move forward to take advantage
of advancing technology and financial innovation. This will not only set the
stage for more record earnings in the years ahead, but also provide the
opportunities for that growth to be sustainable.

Thank you.