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REM\BKS OF MB RoBERI p K\YQ PRESIIENI, t-EDERAL KESERVE HANK QF CHICAOO TO 11-£ lAL~ A~EA lWBUSTBIAL liM'1ISSION DECEMBER ~-' 19/9 I I IT IS A PLEASURE FOR rlf TO BE HERE TODAY IN WHAT I COBSIDER TO BE THE INDUSTDAL HEARTI..AND OF 0-fICAGO AND 11-IE MIJMEST, THIS GROUP REPRESENTS SQYE OF 1HE r,,osT Ir-t'ORTANT INDUSTRIES AND FIRMS IN TI-IE COUNTRY, l HAVE AND WILL LEARN Ml.Oi FRQ'J! YOU ABOUT OUR ECONG1Y--1't>RE n-tAN I'LL EVER BE ABLE TO LEARN FRCl'1 11-fE STATISTICS, WE COLLECT A LOT OF NLMBERS IN 11-f IS COlM"RY Bl.Tr ll-lEY NEVER lELL 'THE \-'IHOL..E STORY AND FREQl£NTLY OON' T TELL lHE RI GIT STORY. IT IS lliROUGH MEETINGS Sl.Oi AS TH IS lliAT MJST VALUABLE INR:>RMA.TION, So BE OF MY Tit'E M\KING FORMAL RErAARKS, I GET MY FOREWARNED, l'M f'OT OOING TO SPEND ALL I I-OPE THAT WE WILL HI\VE AMPLE TIME FOR YOU TO aJ,tENT ON BUSINESS CONDITIONS AS YOU SEE 11-fEM AS WELL AS MY RESPONDING TO YOUR QUESTIONS, MJsr PEOPLE ¼Ol.LD AGREE TODI\Y ARE VERY THAT lHE STATISTICS ON ECOr\OMIC CONDITIONS PUZ7..LI NG IF OOT OOflNR IGHT CONFUSING, So~ OF TI-fE NLMBERS SUGGEST THAT TI-IE ECOffl-1Y IS !EAKENING, PERHAPS VERY RAPIIl.Y, THE LEAJ)ING INDICATORS SOOGEST ™AT AtrrIVITY IS DECLINING, Dl.RABLE crons ORDERS ARE SOFTENING, AUTO SALES AT LEAST FOR JXM:STIC CARS ARE NOT OOING VERY WELL AND f-OLGING IN 11-iE MIJJMEST, AS SOME OF MY REALTOR FRIENDS DESCRIBE IT, HAS COUAPSED, Bur ON 11£ OTHER IIIE WE ARE STIU.. r.oVING AHEAD, TOLD THAT CAPITAL EXPENDITURES ARE CCJIMERCIAL CONSTRLCTION IS STRONG, RETAIL SALES PI CK8J UP IN f'hVEMBER AND 'THE ll'JErvPLOYMENT RATE DECLINED, AAE WE OR ARE WE f'OT IN A RECESSION OR r,,rJVING INTO A RECESSION? https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis -2- AA 11-fE WALL STREET JouRNAL ARTICLE !ESTERDAY SUGGESTED, THE Mt\JORilY OF FORECASTERS HAVE ACCEPT8) TiiE VIEW THAT lHE EcorfflY IS IN A SLlW, BUT IF YOU RFAD THE Wf-OLE ARTICLE YOU HAVE TO CONCLUDE lHAT MJ\VBE ll-lE MAJORITY ARE srnE AND r~YBE ll-fEY AREN'T. Ecot01ISTS HAVE BEEN ACCl.5ED FOR MANY YEARS OF BEi NG lWJ ARMED-ON ll-lE ONE HAND BUT ON lHE OTHER 1-WID, NOA# I ITTfilER IF ECOOOMISTS S1-Dl.lD l'l>T BE ACCUSED OF BEING OCTOPUSES--THEY SEEM TO HAVE SO M\NY HANDS, THIS IS TOUTED PERHAPS SO, flf> niE ~T WIDELY RJRECAST In'INTURN IN IT WAS NITICIPATED IN EARLY 978, U.S. HISTORY, THEN FORECASTS FOR MID-d978, 1978, A SOLID PROJECTION FOR EARLY 1979, CLEARLY IN PLACE IN THE SlfflER OF 1979, WELL, Ml\YBE THE FALL OF 1979, A HIGH Pf{)BABILilY BY THE END OF lHIS VF.AR AND ro, M'\YBE IT \'ON 1 T REAU.Y s1-rn UP IN A srnE BET IN THE FALL OF 11-E Nll'1BERS, l.NTIL TI-IE FIRST QUl\RTER OF il.980, IF YOU MUST FORECAST, FORE- CAST OFTENf J OON 1T WANT TO BE TOO HARD ON EC0f0.11STS, FoRECASTING IS A DIFFICLLT ART EVEN IF SOM:: SHROUD 11-EIR ART wrrn Hll'll:REDS OF EQUL\TIONS AND H)lRS OF mPUTER TIME--AND BESIDES, I'M AN ECOtmIST TOO, HELP BUT FEEL TI-IAT MANY EOOf'mlSTS HAVE FALLEN INTO TI-() Bur I CAN'T TRAPS, ONE, THE FEELING lliAT 1l-EY ARE ONLY l.SEFlL AND SLCCESSFUL ~EN 1l-lEY IDENTIFY A RECESSION--S0'1ETirES DEFINED AS Thn QU'\RTERS OF DECLINE IN THE REAL our- PITT OF (:(ODS AND SERVICES IN THE ECOra-1Y-REAL GNP, TOTAL OlJTPUf ADJUSTED FOR PRICES, AND SECOND, MANY EOOf0.1ISTS HAVE f'OT ADJUSTED TO THE FACT TiiAT HISTORY IS NOT REPEATING ITSELF WI"ll-lOUT ~-'ODIFICATION; TI-iAT IS, lHINGS ARE DIFFERENT mMY BECAUSE WE ARE BEING AFFECTED BY TION, https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 15 YEARS OF RISING INFLA- -3- Now THE FIRST POINT, THAT ECOtffilSTS ARE TRYING TOO HARD TO SPOT Bt.rr WHAT EVERYONE ELSE \.'OlLD AGREE IS A RECESSION MAY SEfM l.NIMPORTANT, IT ISN'T, SorvE ECDrrnl STS HAVE BEEN LOOl<I NG SO HI\RD FOR TI£ TREES THAT THEY HAVE FORGOTTEN lliE FOREST, THEY HAVE BEEN LOOKING SO HARD FOR 1W) GNP THAT THEY HAVEN'T e,J>HASIZED QUI\RTERS OF NEGATIVE FIGLRES IN REAL ENOUGH WHAT Hf\S BEEN HARAENING THROLGIOlIT THIS YEAR, As A RESlJ..T THEY H.l\VE GIVEN POLITICIANS AND BUSINESSMEN TI-IE IMPRESSION THAT ONLY SCJ£11-ilNG IDENTIFIED AS A RECESSION IS IMPORTANT, OBVIOUSLY, THAT ISN'T TRUE, I WOULD SUC,PECT TI-fAT ~ONE OF YOU CARE FR0'1 THE STANDPOINT OF YOUR BUSI- NESS WHEniER OR NOT THE ECO~ IS IDEIITIFIED BY lHE OFFICIAL ARBITER OF Sl.0-f MATTERS, 11~E NATIOML A RECESSION, You ARE Bl.REAU OF ECDf'nMIC RESEARCH, AS BEING IN U'IDERSTANDABLY t,ORE INTERESTED IN TI-IE STRENGTI-1 OF D8'-wID IN YOUR MI\RKETS, WHETHER LIKELY TO WEAKEN OR IMPROVE IN THE r-DJlHS CERTAINLY, AN 0VERAU.. WEAKNESS IN THE ECONCNf WITH 00 Gfnffii IN AHEAD, REAL OlJfPlJf IS If-'PORTANT TO YOU BlJr ~I-IAT TAG SQ\1EONE PlffS ON IT IS NOT, THE FACT IS-EMPHASIZED ONLY RN~ELY BECAUSE OF THE SEARCH FOR SCJ,E- TI-f I NG TO ~IHICH TI-IE NAME RECESSION CAN BE ATTAOiED--TI-iAT WE HAVE BEEN LIVING IN A SLtr:JGISH ECOf'01Y TiiR0UG-IOLrr TI-HS YEAR, PB\L ECDrmlC OF ~JUST OVER ONE PERCENT AT AN ANNU\L RATE FOR THE FIRST NINE GR<MrH ~ OF 11-tE YEAR IS HARDLY THE PICTLRE OF A STRONG ECOtav1Y, AN ECON0-1Y, WHERE IN SPITE OF WEAKNESS, PRICES CONTINUE SCM:lH I NG TO ms~ AND ACCELERATE IS HARDLY APPLAUD, THESE ARE 11-IE DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE ENTERED INTO V0LR PLANNING AND ACTIVITIES, AND TiiESE ARE TiiE DEVELOPMENTS TI-fAT CONCERN US AT THE FED, r~r w--fETI-fER OR f't>T WE SHJULJ) PlIT A NAME HAD ONE OR lWO Ql.AATERS TAG ON THEM, Nor WHElrlER WE'VE OF NEGATIVE GRO,ffit, Bur RATI-IER l-lCM OOES ONE PRO- CEED TO CORRECT w-iAT APPEARS TO BE A LONGER TEF?1 PROBLEM FOR Ol.R SOCIElY, https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 4lJNFORT~TELY, FOCUSING ON TI-IE TAG OF RECESSION CAN LEAD US ASTRAY, SlOi A TAG OOES TEND TO BE IMPORTANT IN THE HALLS OF CoNGRESS AND IN 11-IE h'HITE tnUSE, /\Nn REACT I Wt-EN A SL~I IS tW1ED AS A RECESSION POLHritlANS TEND TO TO REACT IN TRADITIONAL TERMS OF STI MlLATI NG TifE EC0tVMY I THEY OPT FOR FASTER GRCWTI-i MEANING A HIGHER RATE OF INFLATION, 1-v\RDLY Sot£ni I NG NEEDED, I CAN'T KEEP EC0~ISTS FROM US I NG THE TERM RECESS 1~, \1-tAT B01HERS ME IS lliAT lHE NJ1ME RECESSION BECOfvES A CONCEPT, AN IDEA, 11-IAT INFLlENCES TI-IINKING BY POLITICIANS MID ECOtO"1ISTS ALI KE ABOt.rr WHAT ll-lE PATTERN OF ACTIVITY WILL BE OVER TI-IE PERIOD AHEAD, THE ~ATTI:RN THAT GET LOCKED IN IS lliAT IF WE ARE fvOVING INTO A RECESSION, ACTIVITY ~"ILL DECLINE, UN8'1- PLOYMENT RISE, PRICE PRESSUP.ES r,r.JDERATE AND THEN TI-IE ADJUSTrlfNT TI1E WAY, ACTIVITY WILL INCREASE, AND cMPLOYMENT RISE, our OF IN OTHER \«JRDS, AN INTERRUPTION TO 0l.R ECOf'rnV--SOMETHING TEMPORA.RY, I THINK "IW\T lHIS IS THE WRONG WAY TO LOOK AT IT, WE NEED TO TAKE A LONGER LOOK AT WHAT IS GOING ON IN OUR ECO~. WE WIU. 00 ASTRAY ESPECIALLY IN PBBLIC Ecor·l.lMIC POLICY IF WE SIMPLY CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR 11-iE iEMPORARY DlSRLATION OF A RECESSION AND USE THAT AS A BASIS FOR OUR ACTIONS, 11-iAT WE ARE J THINK LIVING IN A DIFFERENT \'llRLD, Arm ECOt01I STS HAVE FALL.EN INTO, httY ALL nfAT IS TiiE SECOND TRAP OF THESE ERRONEOl.S PROJECTIONS OF A RECESSION? BECAUSE lHE OLD RELATIONSHIPS Ar'-'ONG EC0t01IC VARIABLES OON'T HOLD IN 11-fE SAME WAY, AND TI-IE~ REASON FOR THIS IS THAT OUR EC0r-OMIC LIFE HAS BEC°'1E INCREASINGLY DISTORTED BY TI·fE RAVAGES OF A i15 YEAR INA.ATION, Ecot-rnISTS HAVE HAD DIFFICll.TY IN IDENTIFYING A RECESSION BECALSE THE 6 ~ 1lil\T WAS OCCURRING AROUND THEM DID OOT HAVE TI-IE USUAL SIGN- https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 5POSTS, THERE HAVEN'T BEEN LARGE INm:NTORY FLLCTUiffJONS INIU:ED BY SPECULATION, THERE HADN'T BEEN A FIXED INVESiMENT BCOM WHICH WOLLD LEAD J-bus ING, TO A lnlNTlRN, ltITI L RECENTLY AND EVEN THEN ONLY IN SCATTERED LOCALITIES, WAS HJLDING tP WELL--AFTER ALL ISN'T EAD, 1.8 MILLION HOUSING STARTS THE UNEMPLOYMENT P.ATE WASN'T RISING: IN FACT, EMPLOYMENT CONTINUED TO GROW, So YOU COULDN'T BE IN OR HEADING INTO A RECESSION, n-tlNG WAS VF.RY WRONG, ECOt01Y, Bur YET SQ\1E- INFLATION, Ir HASB:EN THE ~R PROBLEM FOR 11-iE IT HAS BEEN THE CAUSE OF WEAKNESS--DJSGUISED TO rWN BECAUSE, IN OOLI.AR TEf?t'lS, 11-tINGS WERE OOING WELL. RECORDS IN OOLI.AR TERM~ • Bur f'l>T Au-nsT 1N REAL TERMS • EVERYONE MA.KING NEW UJNSU-1:R SPENDING AFfER AD.JUSlM:NT RlR PRICE INCREASES 114S BEEN MJVING OOWN ALL YEAR, REAL Pl.Ra-tASING POWER HAS BEEN Il:CLINING, NOT FROM A SLIPPAGE OF 8~PLOYMENT OR A DECLINE IN r£JMINAL INCOME, BlIT FR(lv1 INFLATION, ONE CAN ONLY GlESS ~A--IAT 11-tE Ir-PACT OF INFLATION HAS BEEN ON OUR ECOr-DMIC BEHAVIOR, THERE IS NO WAY OF MEASlP.ING 11--IE DISTORTIONS m OLR IECISIONS, OUR EFFORTS TO PROTECT OURSELVBS, OR THE TRUE VALUE OF THE ASSETS WE I-IAVE TRIED SO HARD AS BLSINESSMEN AND INDIVIDl.14.LS 1t> OBTAIN, Bt.rr, rn SPITE OF TI-IE ca'1PLEXITIES OF 11-IE INFLATION PHEtOM:OON, I HAVE 00 OOUBT 1HAT IT IS TiiE PRIMARY R>RCE LEADING TO TI-iE PERCEIVED WEAKNESS IN OUR ECOtf1''1V, AND IT IS TI1E COURSE OF INFLATION lHAT WILL BE 11-IE MAJOR IETERMINANT OF OUR ECOtflvlIC HEALTI-1 IN lrlE t,Otm-lS AND YEARS AHEAD, r'™ WHERE OOES ALl_ OF 1H IS LE'AIJ us? THE ECON0-1Y HAS BEEN WEAKEN I NG AU. YEAR AS A RESt:LT PRIMARILY OF INFLATION, MJRE PRONOL.l'JCED AS WE ffiVE INTO FIRST HALF OF NEXT YEAR, O)lU) https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis THAT WEAKNESS Will.. BECCJ--1E 1900 AND "1AY WELL CONTINLE THROUGt 11-iE LEAVING ASIIE DEVELOPMENTS IN TI-fE MIDEAST, w-iI0-1 CHANGE 11-iE WttJLE PICTIJRE--t-1)ST LIKELY R)R 11-iE hORSE, llHS - 6PATTERN IS PRETTY MOCH IN PLACE, \!iERE WE 00 FROM THERE IS SIGNIFICAITTLY 1 RELATED TO \+IAT KIND OF PUBLIC ECOf'O~IC POLICY WE TURN TO, lF WE REACT TO A "RECESS ION," AS I MENTIONED EARLi ER, AND ATT81PT m STIMULATE ne.wm TI-IROlliH PUBLIC POLICY, WE Will. GET SOME OlITPt.rr GAINS Bur, 1N MY v1 EW, ooT MLCH, THE OLD TRADEOFF Is 001 LIKELY To BE n1ERE. WE WILL GET ffiRE INFLATION BOTii ACTIJl\LLY AND ANTICIPATED, So fvV\YBE A RESPITE IN THE FALL OF 19[-I) AND TI-IEN OFF AND R~NING TO A r1>RE SERIOUS Slm\TION IN 19~1 AND BEVOtID, WE HAVE TO MJVE TO ~URE LONGER TERM, TO M:lRE FORWARD LOOKING ECONO~IC POLICIES, THE BASIC ENVIRONMENT Ht\S CHf\NGED, WE ARE ~ LIVING IM A SOCIETY IN wHI0-1 RESOLRCE CONSTRAINTS ARE VERY REAL, OUR GRO'tm-1, Ol.R EXPANSION IS SUPPLY (l)NSTRAIN8J, OIL IS ll-fE MJST OBVIOUS, THE INCREASES IN PRICE THAT HAVE OCCLRRED HAVE a-fANGED TI-IE CAPITAL VALUE OF OUR EXISTING PRODLCTION PROCESSES, WE ARE ALL POORER--IT COSTS US "°RE IN REAL RESOURCES PRODLCTIVITV, m r£T THE SAM: OUTPlIT. J\Nn WE ARE CONSTRAINED BY OUR THE PERFORrW·JCE HAS BEEN MISERABLE IN THIS AREA, WE HAVE A SECULAR ~T /1. CYCLICAL PROBLEM, INFLATION, OIL AND PRO- DICTIVIlY ARE ALL LEADING TO SLCMER GR<JtlTH IN OUR ECOl'[)M'(, THIS IS WHAT WE MUST TACKL.E-OOT AS A RECESSION PEEN0'-1ENONBJT AS A LONG TERM ISSLE, THESE ARE BUDGETARY AND TAX DECISIONS TO BE Ml\DE IN WASHINGTON. Bur WHAT ABOt.rr r.-ONETARY POLICY? HERE I AM TALKING ABOUT Ol.R NEEDS FOR OlHER TYPES OF Ecorf.Jv1IC POLICIES Wllmlff SAVING A W)RD AOOLIT 11-iE ONLY REAL POLICY ACTION IN TOWN-TI-iE ECOfffllC POLICY AREA PRAISED OR C0~8) BY Al.M)ST EVERYONE, r•bNETARY POLICY HAS AN ESSENTIAL ROLE TO PLAY IN CORRECTING w-il\T l IBAVE IJDENIJIFIED AS lrfE M/\JOR INITIATOR OF TiiE WEAKENING ECOl'[)M'(--INFLATION. THE ACTIONS TAKEN ON 0croBER 6 AND SO WIIELY PLBLICIZED AND DISCUSSED ARE https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis -7NEITI-ER MYSTERIOI.J:, toR OB.~CURE, THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM IS ACTING TO BRING IXMN TI-IE RATE OF f\'ONETARY GROITH WHIOi, IN lliE LONG TERM, MlU)R ELEMENT IN OUR INA.ATION, SLPPLYING FEWER OF REnt.eING THE RATE fvDNETARY GROffii BY TO THE BANKING SYSTEM HAS MEANT AN RESERVES INTEREST RATES SINCE THE IEM,c\ND FOR MOO HAS THE IS IN INCREASE EXCEEDED 11-iE RATE AT WHICH 11-iEV ARE SUPPLIED, WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN SCM: IN lliE RATE OF t1>NETARY r-'OIERATION GROffi-1 At,ID IN THE FACE OF A WEAKENING ECOtn'1Y, INTEREST RATES HAVE ALREADY W~ I LE BACKED OFF FROM 11-IEI R PREVIOUS HIGHS, lHE IRRNIAN INTEREST CR I SES tAAY CAUSE RATES TEMPORARY FACTORS SLCH AS TO JI..MP UP AGAIN, 11-E LONGER TERM TREND WITH THE MJNETARY AGGREG\TES GROWING AT A SUMER PACE AND ECOf0',1IC ACTIVITY LESS VIOOROUS, SHOULD BE~. BECAUSE INFLATION OOES AFFECT INTEREST RATES, ll-lE EXTENT OF TI-fE DECLINE WILL BE CONSTPAIN8) BY THE PROGRESS ntAT IS MADE ON INFLATION, rnNETARY POLICY HAS BEEN ERRONEOIBLY ECO~HC OOWNTURN, rhJESENSE! As LONG BEFORE OCTOBER 6, THAT REAL Ecort)MIC ACTIVITY, I ACCUSED OF PRECIPITATING TI-IE INDICATED, TI-IE SLOWING WAS UNIERWAY OUR "'ORE RESTRICTIVE ACTIONS WILL IMPACT ON I OON'T DENY BUT IBEY ARE NOT OF SUFFICIENT MAGNI- TUDE TO PRECIPITATE A SEVERE IXMNTI.RN OOR W:>1.l.D TI-IEY REW\IN IN TiiE FACE OF A SIGNIFICANT At-ID SHARP r1>NETARY POLICY REVERSAL OF OUR CANNJT, BY ITSELF, BE 11-iE TOTAL AS RESTRICTIVE ECON<Jt11C FORTIJl'liS, SOUJrION PROBLE~-IN A REALISTIC SENSE OOT EVEN THAT OF INFLATION, Ir THE SLPPORT OF OUR 011-iER TOOLS OF PUBLIC POLICY, TO OUR REQUIRES J3ur WHAT WE HAVE PUT IN Pl.ACE IS A SET OF POLICIES IN 11-IE rvoNETARY SPrERE 11-iAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH A SOLUTION TO AT LEAST TIE CAN BE BROLG-IT INTO LINE, https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis INR.ATIONARY My CONCERN IS PROBLEM IF 0~ OTHER PUBLIC POLICIES TI-IAT lHE LIMITED PROGRESS WE HAVE -8MA.DE IN MJNETARV POLICY AND TiiE ATTENMNT, ALBEIT lNil:SIRABLE, \\'EAKENING IN ll-lE ECOf'Of{, WILL l.£AD THOSE IN PLBLIC LIFE TO TI-IE DECISION THAT WE HAVE OONE AU. WE CAN IN SOLVING OUR EC000\1IC PROBLEMS, https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis I 1-DPE OOT,