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REM\BKS OF MB RoBERI p K\YQ
PRESIIENI, t-EDERAL KESERVE HANK QF CHICAOO
TO 11-£ lAL~ A~EA lWBUSTBIAL liM'1ISSION
DECEMBER ~-' 19/9
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I

IT IS A PLEASURE FOR rlf TO BE HERE TODAY IN WHAT I COBSIDER TO BE
THE INDUSTDAL HEARTI..AND OF 0-fICAGO AND 11-IE MIJMEST, THIS GROUP REPRESENTS SQYE OF 1HE r,,osT Ir-t'ORTANT INDUSTRIES AND FIRMS IN TI-IE COUNTRY,

l HAVE AND WILL LEARN

Ml.Oi FRQ'J!

YOU ABOUT OUR ECONG1Y--1't>RE n-tAN I'LL

EVER BE ABLE TO LEARN FRCl'1 11-fE STATISTICS,

WE COLLECT A LOT OF NLMBERS

IN 11-f IS COlM"RY Bl.Tr ll-lEY NEVER lELL 'THE \-'IHOL..E STORY AND FREQl£NTLY OON' T
TELL lHE RI GIT STORY.

IT IS lliROUGH MEETINGS Sl.Oi AS TH IS lliAT

MJST VALUABLE INR:>RMA.TION,

So BE

OF MY Tit'E M\KING FORMAL RErAARKS,

I GET MY

FOREWARNED, l'M f'OT OOING TO SPEND ALL

I I-OPE THAT WE

WILL HI\VE AMPLE TIME

FOR YOU TO aJ,tENT ON BUSINESS CONDITIONS AS YOU SEE 11-fEM AS WELL AS MY
RESPONDING TO YOUR QUESTIONS,

MJsr PEOPLE ¼Ol.LD AGREE
TODI\Y ARE

VERY

THAT lHE STATISTICS ON ECOr\OMIC CONDITIONS

PUZ7..LI NG IF OOT

OOflNR IGHT

CONFUSING, So~ OF TI-fE NLMBERS

SUGGEST THAT TI-IE ECOffl-1Y IS !EAKENING, PERHAPS VERY RAPIIl.Y, THE LEAJ)ING
INDICATORS SOOGEST ™AT AtrrIVITY IS DECLINING, Dl.RABLE crons ORDERS ARE
SOFTENING, AUTO SALES AT LEAST FOR JXM:STIC CARS ARE NOT OOING VERY WELL
AND f-OLGING IN 11-iE MIJJMEST, AS SOME OF MY REALTOR FRIENDS DESCRIBE IT,
HAS COUAPSED,

Bur ON 11£ OTHER IIIE WE ARE
STIU.. r.oVING

AHEAD,

TOLD THAT CAPITAL EXPENDITURES ARE

CCJIMERCIAL CONSTRLCTION IS

STRONG,

RETAIL SALES

PI CK8J UP IN f'hVEMBER AND 'THE ll'JErvPLOYMENT RATE DECLINED, AAE WE OR ARE
WE f'OT IN A RECESSION OR r,,rJVING INTO A RECESSION?


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AA 11-fE WALL STREET JouRNAL ARTICLE !ESTERDAY SUGGESTED,

THE Mt\JORilY

OF FORECASTERS HAVE ACCEPT8) TiiE VIEW THAT lHE EcorfflY IS IN A SLlW,

BUT

IF YOU RFAD THE Wf-OLE ARTICLE YOU HAVE TO CONCLUDE lHAT MJ\VBE ll-lE MAJORITY
ARE srnE AND r~YBE ll-fEY AREN'T.

Ecot01ISTS HAVE BEEN ACCl.5ED FOR MANY

YEARS OF BEi NG lWJ ARMED-ON ll-lE ONE HAND BUT ON lHE OTHER 1-WID,

NOA#

I

ITTfilER IF ECOOOMISTS S1-Dl.lD l'l>T BE ACCUSED OF BEING OCTOPUSES--THEY SEEM
TO HAVE SO M\NY HANDS,

THIS IS TOUTED
PERHAPS SO,

flf>

niE ~T WIDELY RJRECAST In'INTURN IN

IT WAS NITICIPATED IN EARLY

978,

U.S.

HISTORY,

THEN FORECASTS FOR MID-d978,

1978, A SOLID PROJECTION FOR EARLY 1979, CLEARLY
IN PLACE IN THE SlfflER OF 1979, WELL, Ml\YBE THE FALL OF 1979, A HIGH Pf{)BABILilY BY THE END OF lHIS VF.AR AND ro, M'\YBE IT \'ON 1 T REAU.Y s1-rn UP IN
A srnE BET IN THE FALL OF

11-E Nll'1BERS, l.NTIL TI-IE FIRST QUl\RTER OF

il.980, IF YOU MUST FORECAST, FORE-

CAST OFTENf

J OON 1T WANT TO BE TOO HARD ON EC0f0.11STS, FoRECASTING IS A DIFFICLLT ART EVEN IF SOM:: SHROUD 11-EIR ART

wrrn

Hll'll:REDS OF EQUL\TIONS AND

H)lRS OF mPUTER TIME--AND BESIDES, I'M AN ECOtmIST TOO,
HELP BUT FEEL TI-IAT MANY EOOf'mlSTS HAVE FALLEN INTO

TI-()

Bur I CAN'T

TRAPS,

ONE, THE

FEELING lliAT 1l-EY ARE ONLY l.SEFlL AND SLCCESSFUL ~EN 1l-lEY IDENTIFY A
RECESSION--S0'1ETirES DEFINED AS Thn QU'\RTERS OF DECLINE IN THE REAL our-

PITT OF (:(ODS AND SERVICES IN THE ECOra-1Y-REAL

GNP,

TOTAL OlJTPUf ADJUSTED

FOR PRICES, AND SECOND, MANY EOOf0.1ISTS HAVE f'OT ADJUSTED TO THE FACT TiiAT
HISTORY IS NOT REPEATING ITSELF WI"ll-lOUT ~-'ODIFICATION; TI-iAT IS, lHINGS ARE
DIFFERENT mMY BECAUSE WE ARE BEING AFFECTED BY
TION,


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15 YEARS

OF RISING INFLA-

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Now THE

FIRST POINT, THAT ECOtffilSTS ARE TRYING TOO HARD TO SPOT

Bt.rr

WHAT EVERYONE ELSE \.'OlLD AGREE IS A RECESSION MAY SEfM l.NIMPORTANT,

IT ISN'T, SorvE ECDrrnl STS HAVE BEEN LOOl<I NG SO HI\RD FOR TI£ TREES THAT
THEY HAVE FORGOTTEN lliE FOREST,

THEY

HAVE BEEN LOOKING SO HARD FOR

1W)

GNP THAT THEY HAVEN'T e,J>HASIZED

QUI\RTERS OF NEGATIVE FIGLRES IN REAL

ENOUGH WHAT Hf\S BEEN HARAENING THROLGIOlIT THIS YEAR, As A RESlJ..T THEY
H.l\VE GIVEN POLITICIANS AND BUSINESSMEN TI-IE IMPRESSION THAT ONLY SCJ£11-ilNG
IDENTIFIED AS A RECESSION IS IMPORTANT, OBVIOUSLY, THAT ISN'T TRUE,

I WOULD

SUC,PECT TI-fAT ~ONE OF YOU

CARE

FR0'1 THE

STANDPOINT OF YOUR BUSI-

NESS WHEniER OR NOT THE ECO~ IS IDEIITIFIED BY lHE OFFICIAL ARBITER
OF Sl.0-f MATTERS, 11~E NATIOML
A RECESSION,

You ARE

Bl.REAU

OF ECDf'nMIC RESEARCH, AS BEING IN

U'IDERSTANDABLY t,ORE INTERESTED IN TI-IE STRENGTI-1 OF

D8'-wID IN YOUR MI\RKETS, WHETHER LIKELY TO WEAKEN OR IMPROVE IN THE r-DJlHS
CERTAINLY, AN 0VERAU.. WEAKNESS IN THE ECONCNf WITH 00 Gfnffii IN

AHEAD,

REAL OlJfPlJf IS If-'PORTANT TO YOU BlJr ~I-IAT TAG SQ\1EONE PlffS ON IT IS NOT,

THE FACT IS-EMPHASIZED ONLY RN~ELY BECAUSE OF THE SEARCH FOR

SCJ,E-

TI-f I NG TO ~IHICH TI-IE NAME RECESSION CAN BE ATTAOiED--TI-iAT WE HAVE BEEN

LIVING IN A SLtr:JGISH ECOf'01Y TiiR0UG-IOLrr TI-HS YEAR,

PB\L ECDrmlC

OF ~JUST OVER ONE PERCENT AT AN ANNU\L RATE FOR THE FIRST NINE

GR<MrH

~

OF

11-tE YEAR IS HARDLY THE PICTLRE OF A STRONG ECOtav1Y, AN ECON0-1Y, WHERE
IN SPITE OF WEAKNESS, PRICES CONTINUE
SCM:lH I NG TO

ms~ AND ACCELERATE IS HARDLY

APPLAUD,

THESE ARE 11-IE DEVELOPMENTS

THAT

HAVE ENTERED INTO V0LR PLANNING AND

ACTIVITIES, AND TiiESE ARE TiiE DEVELOPMENTS TI-fAT CONCERN US AT THE FED,

r~r

w--fETI-fER OR f't>T WE SHJULJ) PlIT A NAME

HAD

ONE

OR lWO Ql.AATERS

TAG ON THEM, Nor WHElrlER WE'VE

OF NEGATIVE GRO,ffit, Bur RATI-IER

l-lCM

OOES ONE PRO-

CEED TO CORRECT w-iAT APPEARS TO BE A LONGER TEF?1 PROBLEM FOR Ol.R SOCIElY,


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- 4lJNFORT~TELY, FOCUSING ON TI-IE TAG OF RECESSION CAN LEAD US ASTRAY,
SlOi A TAG OOES TEND TO BE IMPORTANT IN THE HALLS OF CoNGRESS AND IN 11-IE
h'HITE tnUSE,

/\Nn

REACT I

Wt-EN A SL~I IS tW1ED AS A RECESSION POLHritlANS TEND TO
TO REACT IN TRADITIONAL TERMS OF STI MlLATI NG TifE EC0tVMY I

THEY OPT FOR FASTER GRCWTI-i MEANING A HIGHER RATE OF INFLATION,

1-v\RDLY

Sot£ni I NG NEEDED,

I CAN'T

KEEP EC0~ISTS FROM US I NG THE TERM RECESS 1~,

\1-tAT B01HERS

ME IS lliAT lHE NJ1ME RECESSION BECOfvES A CONCEPT, AN IDEA, 11-IAT INFLlENCES

TI-IINKING BY POLITICIANS MID ECOtO"1ISTS ALI KE ABOt.rr WHAT ll-lE PATTERN OF
ACTIVITY WILL BE OVER TI-IE PERIOD AHEAD, THE ~ATTI:RN THAT GET LOCKED IN
IS lliAT IF WE ARE fvOVING INTO A RECESSION, ACTIVITY ~"ILL DECLINE, UN8'1-

PLOYMENT RISE, PRICE PRESSUP.ES r,r.JDERATE AND THEN TI-IE ADJUSTrlfNT
TI1E WAY, ACTIVITY WILL INCREASE, AND cMPLOYMENT RISE,

our OF

IN OTHER \«JRDS,

AN INTERRUPTION TO 0l.R ECOf'rnV--SOMETHING TEMPORA.RY,

I THINK

"IW\T lHIS IS THE WRONG WAY TO LOOK AT IT,

WE NEED TO TAKE

A LONGER LOOK AT WHAT IS GOING ON IN OUR ECO~. WE WIU. 00 ASTRAY
ESPECIALLY IN PBBLIC Ecor·l.lMIC POLICY IF WE SIMPLY CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR
11-iE iEMPORARY DlSRLATION OF A RECESSION AND USE THAT AS A BASIS FOR OUR
ACTIONS,

11-iAT

WE ARE
J THINK

LIVING IN A DIFFERENT \'llRLD,

Arm

ECOt01I STS HAVE FALL.EN INTO,

httY ALL

nfAT IS TiiE SECOND TRAP

OF THESE ERRONEOl.S

PROJECTIONS OF A RECESSION? BECAUSE lHE OLD RELATIONSHIPS Ar'-'ONG EC0t01IC
VARIABLES OON'T HOLD IN 11-fE SAME WAY, AND TI-IE~ REASON FOR THIS IS
THAT OUR EC0r-OMIC LIFE HAS BEC°'1E INCREASINGLY DISTORTED BY TI·fE RAVAGES

OF A i15 YEAR INA.ATION,
Ecot-rnISTS HAVE HAD DIFFICll.TY IN IDENTIFYING A RECESSION BECALSE
THE 6 ~ 1lil\T WAS OCCURRING AROUND THEM DID OOT HAVE TI-IE USUAL SIGN-


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- 5POSTS, THERE HAVEN'T BEEN LARGE INm:NTORY FLLCTUiffJONS INIU:ED BY
SPECULATION,

THERE HADN'T BEEN A FIXED INVESiMENT BCOM WHICH WOLLD LEAD

J-bus ING,

TO A lnlNTlRN,

ltITI L RECENTLY AND EVEN THEN ONLY IN SCATTERED

LOCALITIES, WAS HJLDING tP WELL--AFTER ALL
ISN'T EAD,

1.8

MILLION HOUSING STARTS

THE UNEMPLOYMENT P.ATE WASN'T RISING: IN FACT, EMPLOYMENT

CONTINUED TO GROW,

So

YOU COULDN'T BE IN OR HEADING INTO A RECESSION,

n-tlNG WAS VF.RY WRONG,
ECOt01Y,

Bur YET SQ\1E-

INFLATION, Ir HASB:EN THE ~R PROBLEM FOR 11-iE

IT HAS BEEN THE CAUSE OF WEAKNESS--DJSGUISED TO rWN BECAUSE,

IN OOLI.AR TEf?t'lS, 11-tINGS WERE OOING WELL.
RECORDS IN OOLI.AR TERM~ •

Bur f'l>T

Au-nsT

1N REAL TERMS •

EVERYONE MA.KING NEW
UJNSU-1:R SPENDING

AFfER AD.JUSlM:NT RlR PRICE INCREASES 114S BEEN MJVING OOWN ALL YEAR, REAL
Pl.Ra-tASING POWER

HAS BEEN Il:CLINING, NOT FROM A SLIPPAGE OF 8~PLOYMENT

OR A DECLINE IN r£JMINAL INCOME, BlIT FR(lv1 INFLATION,

ONE CAN

ONLY GlESS ~A--IAT 11-tE Ir-PACT OF INFLATION HAS BEEN ON OUR

ECOr-DMIC BEHAVIOR, THERE IS NO WAY OF MEASlP.ING

11--IE

DISTORTIONS

m OLR

IECISIONS, OUR EFFORTS TO PROTECT OURSELVBS, OR THE TRUE VALUE OF THE
ASSETS WE I-IAVE TRIED SO HARD AS BLSINESSMEN AND INDIVIDl.14.LS 1t> OBTAIN,

Bt.rr, rn

SPITE OF TI-IE ca'1PLEXITIES OF 11-IE INFLATION PHEtOM:OON,

I

HAVE 00 OOUBT 1HAT IT IS TiiE PRIMARY R>RCE LEADING TO TI-iE PERCEIVED WEAKNESS IN OUR ECOtf1''1V,

AND IT IS TI1E COURSE OF INFLATION lHAT WILL BE 11-IE

MAJOR IETERMINANT OF OUR ECOtflvlIC HEALTI-1 IN lrlE t,Otm-lS AND YEARS AHEAD,

r'™ WHERE OOES ALl_ OF 1H IS LE'AIJ us?

THE ECON0-1Y HAS BEEN WEAKEN I NG

AU. YEAR AS A RESt:LT PRIMARILY OF INFLATION,

MJRE PRONOL.l'JCED AS WE ffiVE INTO
FIRST HALF OF NEXT YEAR,
O)lU)


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THAT WEAKNESS Will.. BECCJ--1E

1900 AND "1AY WELL CONTINLE

THROUGt 11-iE

LEAVING ASIIE DEVELOPMENTS IN TI-fE MIDEAST, w-iI0-1

CHANGE 11-iE WttJLE PICTIJRE--t-1)ST LIKELY R)R 11-iE hORSE, llHS

- 6PATTERN IS PRETTY MOCH IN PLACE,

\!iERE WE 00 FROM THERE IS SIGNIFICAITTLY
1

RELATED TO \+IAT KIND OF PUBLIC ECOf'O~IC POLICY WE TURN TO,

lF WE

REACT TO A "RECESS ION," AS

I MENTIONED

EARLi ER, AND ATT81PT

m STIMULATE ne.wm TI-IROlliH

PUBLIC POLICY, WE Will. GET SOME OlITPt.rr GAINS

Bur, 1N MY v1 EW, ooT MLCH,

THE OLD TRADEOFF Is 001 LIKELY To BE n1ERE.

WE WILL GET ffiRE INFLATION BOTii ACTIJl\LLY AND ANTICIPATED,

So

fvV\YBE A

RESPITE IN THE FALL OF 19[-I) AND TI-IEN OFF AND R~NING TO A r1>RE SERIOUS
Slm\TION IN

19~1 AND

BEVOtID,

WE HAVE TO MJVE TO ~URE LONGER TERM, TO M:lRE FORWARD LOOKING
ECONO~IC POLICIES,

THE BASIC ENVIRONMENT Ht\S CHf\NGED,

WE ARE ~ LIVING

IM A SOCIETY IN wHI0-1 RESOLRCE CONSTRAINTS ARE VERY REAL, OUR GRO'tm-1,
Ol.R EXPANSION IS SUPPLY (l)NSTRAIN8J, OIL IS ll-fE MJST OBVIOUS, THE INCREASES IN PRICE THAT HAVE OCCLRRED HAVE a-fANGED TI-IE CAPITAL VALUE OF
OUR EXISTING PRODLCTION PROCESSES, WE ARE ALL POORER--IT COSTS US "°RE
IN REAL RESOURCES
PRODLCTIVITV,

m r£T THE

SAM: OUTPlIT.

J\Nn WE ARE CONSTRAINED BY OUR

THE PERFORrW·JCE HAS BEEN MISERABLE IN THIS AREA,

WE HAVE A SECULAR ~T /1. CYCLICAL PROBLEM,

INFLATION, OIL AND PRO-

DICTIVIlY ARE ALL LEADING TO SLCMER GR<JtlTH IN OUR ECOl'[)M'(,

THIS IS WHAT

WE MUST TACKL.E-OOT AS A RECESSION PEEN0'-1ENONBJT AS A LONG TERM ISSLE,
THESE ARE BUDGETARY AND TAX DECISIONS TO BE Ml\DE IN WASHINGTON.

Bur WHAT

ABOt.rr r.-ONETARY POLICY? HERE

I AM

TALKING ABOUT Ol.R NEEDS

FOR OlHER TYPES OF Ecorf.Jv1IC POLICIES Wllmlff SAVING A W)RD AOOLIT 11-iE ONLY
REAL POLICY ACTION IN TOWN-TI-iE ECOfffllC POLICY AREA PRAISED OR C0~8)
BY Al.M)ST EVERYONE,
r•bNETARY POLICY HAS AN ESSENTIAL ROLE TO PLAY IN CORRECTING w-il\T

l

IBAVE IJDENIJIFIED AS lrfE M/\JOR INITIATOR OF TiiE WEAKENING ECOl'[)M'(--INFLATION.
THE ACTIONS TAKEN ON 0croBER 6 AND SO WIIELY PLBLICIZED AND DISCUSSED ARE


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-7NEITI-ER MYSTERIOI.J:, toR OB.~CURE,

THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM IS ACTING TO

BRING IXMN TI-IE RATE OF f\'ONETARY GROITH WHIOi, IN lliE LONG TERM,
MlU)R ELEMENT IN OUR INA.ATION,

SLPPLYING FEWER

OF

REnt.eING THE RATE

fvDNETARY GROffii BY

TO THE BANKING SYSTEM HAS MEANT AN

RESERVES

INTEREST RATES SINCE THE IEM,c\ND FOR MOO

HAS

THE

IS

IN

INCREASE

EXCEEDED 11-iE RATE AT WHICH

11-iEV ARE SUPPLIED,

WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN SCM:

IN lliE RATE OF t1>NETARY

r-'OIERATION

GROffi-1

At,ID IN THE FACE OF A WEAKENING ECOtn'1Y, INTEREST RATES HAVE ALREADY

W~ I LE

BACKED OFF FROM 11-IEI R PREVIOUS HIGHS,

lHE IRRNIAN

INTEREST

CR I SES tAAY CAUSE

RATES

TEMPORARY FACTORS SLCH AS

TO JI..MP

UP AGAIN, 11-E LONGER

TERM TREND WITH THE MJNETARY AGGREG\TES GROWING AT A SUMER PACE AND
ECOf0',1IC ACTIVITY LESS VIOOROUS, SHOULD BE~. BECAUSE INFLATION OOES
AFFECT

INTEREST RATES, ll-lE EXTENT OF TI-fE DECLINE WILL

BE

CONSTPAIN8)

BY

THE PROGRESS ntAT IS MADE ON INFLATION,
rnNETARY POLICY HAS BEEN

ERRONEOIBLY

ECO~HC OOWNTURN,

rhJESENSE! As

LONG BEFORE OCTOBER

6,

THAT

REAL Ecort)MIC ACTIVITY,

I

ACCUSED

OF PRECIPITATING TI-IE

INDICATED, TI-IE SLOWING WAS UNIERWAY

OUR "'ORE RESTRICTIVE ACTIONS WILL IMPACT ON

I OON'T DENY BUT IBEY ARE NOT OF SUFFICIENT MAGNI-

TUDE TO PRECIPITATE A SEVERE IXMNTI.RN OOR W:>1.l.D TI-IEY REW\IN

IN TiiE FACE OF A SIGNIFICANT At-ID SHARP
r1>NETARY

POLICY

REVERSAL

OF OUR

CANNJT, BY ITSELF, BE 11-iE TOTAL

AS RESTRICTIVE

ECON<Jt11C FORTIJl'liS,

SOUJrION

PROBLE~-IN A REALISTIC SENSE OOT EVEN THAT OF INFLATION, Ir
THE

SLPPORT

OF OUR 011-iER TOOLS OF PUBLIC

POLICY,

TO OUR
REQUIRES

J3ur WHAT WE HAVE PUT

IN

Pl.ACE IS A SET OF POLICIES IN 11-IE rvoNETARY SPrERE 11-iAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH
A SOLUTION TO

AT LEAST

TIE

CAN BE BROLG-IT INTO LINE,


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INR.ATIONARY
My

CONCERN

IS

PROBLEM IF 0~ OTHER PUBLIC POLICIES
TI-IAT

lHE LIMITED PROGRESS WE HAVE

-8MA.DE IN MJNETARV POLICY AND TiiE ATTENMNT, ALBEIT lNil:SIRABLE, \\'EAKENING

IN ll-lE ECOf'Of{, WILL l.£AD THOSE IN PLBLIC LIFE TO TI-IE DECISION THAT WE
HAVE OONE AU. WE CAN IN SOLVING OUR EC000\1IC PROBLEMS,


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