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REMARKS BY
RICKI TI6ERT HELFER
CHAIRMAN
FEDERAL DEPOSIT INSURANCE CORPORATION
BEFORE THE
ABA NATIONAL CONFERENCE FOR COMMUNITY BANKERS
ORLANDO, FLORIDA
FEBRUARY 27, 1995

ILLUSIONS CAN BE FUN - ORLANDO IS A MONUMENT TO THAT - AND
ILLUSIONS CAN SOMETIMES BE COMFORTING, BUT THAT DOES NOT MAKE
THEM ANY TRUER - EVEN HERE IN ORLANDO. TODAY, BANKERS CAN TAKE
COMFORT IN HARD FACT. FACT ONE: AMERICA’S BANKS TODAY ENJOY THEIR
STRONGEST CAPITAL LEVELS IN THIRTY YEARS. FACT TWO: IN RECENT
YEARS, AMERICA'S BANKS HAVE REPEATEDLY EXPERIENCED EARNINGS
RECORDS. FACT THREE: IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS, AMERICA'S BANKS HAVE
LARGELY REBUILT THE BANK INSURANCE FUND.
WE AT THE FEDERAL DEPOSIT INSURANCE CORPORATION CAN SAY WITH
PRIDE THAT NO BANK DEPOSITOR HAS LOST A PENNY OF INSURED MONEY
AND THAT NO U.S. TAXPAYER HAS PAID A SINGLE CENT FOR THIS DEPOSITOR
PROTECTION.
WE CAN SAY THAT BECAUSE YOU - THE BANKING INDUSTRY - PAID FOR
THAT PROTECTION.
I CONGRATULATE YOU ON YOUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
ITIS A SPECIAL PLEASURE FOR ME TO ADDRESS COMMUNITY BANKERS. MOST
OF THE 7,000 INSTITUTIONS THE FEDERAL DEPOSIT INSURANCE CORPORATION
DIRECTLY SUPERVISES ARE COMMUNITY BANKS -- BANKS LIKE THE FIRST CITY
BANK IN MY HOMETOWN, MURFREESBORO, IN TENNESSEE.
INDEED, HISTORIANS HAVE WRITTEN THAT THE FDIC WAS CREATED SIXTYONE YEARS AGO TO ASSURE THE SURVIVAL OF THE SMALL, COMMUNITYORIENTED BANK AT A TIME WHEN MANY OF THE MOST POWERFUL PEOPLE IN




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THE COUNTRY ADVOCATED GIANT, NATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS AS THE
ANSWER TO THE BANKING CRISIS OF THE EARLY 1930s.
THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT THE LINK BETWEEN THE FDIC AND THE
COMMUNITY BANK IS A STRONG AND ENDURING ONE - AND ONE THAT GOES
BACK TO THE FDIC'S BEGINNING. MARRINER ECCLES, THE CHAIRMAN OF THE
FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD IN THE 1930S, WAS NO FAN OF SMALL BANKS NOR
OF THE FDIC. HE WAS, HOWEVER, WIDELY ACKNOWLEDGED FOR HIS
INTELLECTUAL HONESTY.
IN HIS MEMOIRS, HE WROTE THAT THE BANKS THE FDIC SUPERVISES HELD A
SPECIAL PLACE IN THE HEART OF PRESIDENT FRANKLIN DELANO ROOSEVELT.
ECCLES WROTE DISAPPROVINGLY THAT, IN PRESIDENT ROOSEVELT'S VIEW,
"THE STATE NONMEMBER BANKS REPRESENTED THE SMALL,
DEMOCRATICALLY CONTROLLED INSTITUTIONS, RESPONSIVE TO LOCAL
NEEDS, WITH OFFICERS WHO HAD THE WELFARE OF THE HOMEFOLKS AT
HEART."
IN MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, THAT WAS CERTAINLY TRUE.
I WENT TO COLLEGE - AND GRADUATE SCHOOL - ON SCHOLARSHIP.
CONSEQUENTLY, I WAS ALWAYS ON A TIGHT BUDGET. WHEN I WAS IN
COLLEGE, MY FAMILY BANKED AT A COMMUNITY BANK IN SMYRNA,
TENNESSEE, WHERE WE THEN LIVED - DOWN THE ROAD A PIECE - AS WE
USED TO SAY - FROM MURFREESBORO.
I WILL NEVER FORGET THAT THE BANKER CALLED MY MOTHER WHEN MY
CHECKING ACCOUNT DROPPED BELOW $25 TO MAKE SURE I HAD ENOUGH
MONEY TO COVER UNEXPECTED EXPENSES.
WE WERE NOT BIG CUSTOMERS OF THE BANK - FAR FROM IT - BUT THIS
BANKER HAD THE WELFARE OF ALL HIS CUSTOMERS, INCLUDING ME, AT
HEART.
THAT WAS WHAT COMMUNITY BANKING WAS ABOUT THEN.
THIS IS WHAT COMMUNITY BANKING IS ABOUT TODAY.
I AM NOT HERE TODAY, HOWEVER, TO DISCUSS MY MEMORIES - HOWEVER
FONDLY I HOLD THEM. RATHER, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE
THINGS GOING ON BACK IN WASHINGTON - WHICH HAS BEEN DESCRIBED AS
AMERICA'S LARGEST THEME PARK, WHERE THE LINE BETWEEN REALITY AND
FANTASY IS SOMETIMES BLURRED - OFTEN ON PURPOSE.




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AS YOU KNOW, THE FDIC BOARD FOUR WEEKS AGO PROPOSED SIGNIFICANTLY
LOWERING DEPOSIT INSURANCE PREMIUMS FOR BANKS. SOMETIME AROUND
MID-YEAR, THE BANK INSURANCE FUND WILL BE RECAPITALIZED AT THE
LEVEL MANDATED BY CONGRESS. BY THAT POINT, THE BANKS WILL HAVE
BUILT UP A RESERVE OF NEARLY $25 BILLION. SOMETIME AROUND MID-YEAR,
WE WILL REACH THE TARGET THE LAW REQUIRES OF $1.25 IN RESERVES FOR
EVERY $100 IN INSURED DEPOSITS. THE FDIC WILL NOT KNOW THAT GOAL
HAS BEEN REACHED WHEN THE EVENT OCCURS BECAUSE WE RELY ON THE
C AT I. REPORTS YOU FILE WITH US TO DETERMINE INSURED DEPOSIT LEVELS.
WHEN THE GOAL IS REACHED, HOWEVER, THE TIME WILL COME TO LIFT THE
COST AND BURDEN ON BANKING FROM HISTORICALLY HIGH INSURANCE
PREMIUMS.
THIS COST AFFECTS NOT ONLY BANKS BUT ALSO THE CUSTOMERS THEY
SERVE. UNDER THE FDIC'S PROPOSAL, PREMIUMS WOULD DROP
SIGNIFICANTLY FOR NINE-OUT-OF-TEN BANKS IN THE COUNTRY. FOR THE
BANKING INDUSTRY AS A WHOLE, ASSESSMENTS WOULD FALL FROM ABOUT
$6 BILLION A YEAR TO $1.1 BILLION. WE WOULD STILL BASE PREMIUMS ON
THE RISK THAT INDIVIDUAL INSTITUTIONS POSE TO THE BANK INSURANCE
FUND. WE BELIEVE THE LAW REQUIRES US TO DO THAT.
WE WOULD TRY TO SET ASSESSMENTS IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THE 1.25
TARGET. WE BELIEVE THE LAW REQUIRES US TO DO THAT, TOO.
THE $1.1 BILLION FROM ASSESSMENTS COMBINED WITH INVESTMENT INCOME
ON THE FUND WOULD ENABLE US TO MAINTAIN THE TARGET, TAKING INTO
ACCOUNT PROJECTED LOSSES TO THE FUND.
ALL IN ALL, WE ARE TAKING A REASONABLE, CAUTIOUS APPROACH.
THE FDIC'S PROPOSAL REWARDS GOOD BANK MANAGEMENT AND PROVIDES
INCENTIVES FOR LESS THAN FIRST-RATE PERFORMERS TO IMPROVE BY
EXPANDING THE PREMIUM RANGE FROM 4 TO 31 BASIS POINTS. THIS
APPROACH IS MORE REFLECTIVE OF LOSSES TO THE INSURANCE FUND AND
FAIRER TO THOSE INSTITUTIONS THAT MAINTAIN HIGH STANDARDS. THE
RESPONSE TO THE FDIC'S PROPOSAL HAS NOT BEEN UNIFORMLY POSITIVE.
SOME BANKS SAY 4 BASIS POINTS IS STILL TOO HIGH A CHARGE FOR DEPOSIT
INSURANCE FOR THE BEST BANKS BECAUSE LOSSES TO THE BANK INSURANCE
FUND WERE SO LOW LAST YEAR.
THRIFTS INSURED BY THE SAIF COMPLAIN THAT THE FDIC BOARD DOES NOT




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PROPOSE LOWERING THE SAIF PREMIUMS AND THEY, THEREFORE, WILL BE
COMPETITIVELY DISADVANTAGED.
RECONCILING THE COMPETING INTERESTS IS NOT EASY, BUT THE LAW QUITE
EXPLICITLY REQUIRES THE FDIC TO SET BIF AND SAIF PREMIUMS
INDEPENDENTLY.
THE SAVINGS ASSOCIATION INSURANCE FUND IS MUCH FARTHER AWAY FROM
ACHIEVING THE TARGET OF 1.25 IN RESERVES THAN THE BIF IS. SAIF STANDS
AT ABOUT $1.8 BILLION - MORE THAN $6.8 BILLION SHORT OF THE $8.6
BILLION IT NEEDS TO CAPITALIZE FULLY. ASSUMING MODEST INSURANCE
LOSSES AND A DECLINE IN THRIFT DEPOSITS OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS,
SAIF IS EXPECTED TO REACH ITS TARGET IN THE YEAR 2002, IE SAIF-INSURED
INSTITUTIONS CONTINUE TO PAY PREMIUM RATES AT ABOUT THE SAME
LEVEL AS THEY DO NOW. SOME THRIFT INDUSTRY EXECUTIVES ARGUE THAT
THE PUBLIC INTEREST REQUIRES THAT NO DIFFERENTIAL EXIST BETWEEN BIF
AND SAIF PREMIUMS. THAT COULD CONCEIVABLY MEAN THAT BANKERS
WOULD CONTINUE TO PAY SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF $6
BILLION A YEAR INTO THE BIF UNTIL THE SAIF RECAPITALIZES IN THE YEAR
2002 - OR $42 BILLION MORE THAN THE $25 BILLION THE BIF WILL HAVE AT
MID-YEAR.
LET US LOOK AT THE FACTS CALMLY.
FIRST OF ALL, EIGHTY-SIX PERCENT OF SAIF-MEMBERS ARE RATED WELLCAPITALIZED AND BEST-MANAGED - NOT TOO FAR OFF FROM THE 91
PERCENT OF BANKS RATED AT THE TOP OF THE ASSESSMENT SCALE.
SECONDLY, THERE IS A 1960S MENTALITY AT WORK HERE IN THE ARGUMENT
THAT THE BIF PREMIUMS SHOULD NOT BE LOWERED UNTIL SAIF PREMIUMS
CAN BE LOWERED.
THE ARGUMENT ASSUMES THAT BANKS AND SAVINGS AND LOANS ARE CLOSE
COMPETITORS OUT TO SERVE THE SAME CUSTOMERS - AND THAT THEY ARE
THE ONLY COMPETITORS SERVING THOSE CUSTOMERS. THEREFORE, WHAT IS
GOOD FOR BANKS HAS TO BE BAD FOR THRIFTS, AND WHAT IS BAD FOR BANKS
HAS TO BE GOOD FOR THE THRIFTS - OR SO THE ANALYSIS GOES. WE ALL
REMEMBER THE REGULATION Q INTEREST RATE DIFFERENTIAL.
THE PROBLEM WITH THE ARGUMENT IS THAT THE WORLD HAS CHANGED A
GREAT DEAL SINCE THE 1960S. WE ARE NOT FACED WITH A ZERO-SUM GAME
OF "BANKS WIN, THRIFTS LOSE.” THE SITUATION IS FAR MORE COMPLEX
THAN THAT. BANKS AND SAVINGS AND LOANS HAVE A HOST OF




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COMPETITORS. BANKS AND SAVINGS AND LOANS CAN -- IF THEY CHOOSE TO
DO SO - SEGMENT THEIR MARKETS - SEEK MARKET NICHES. FURTHER,
NEITHER BANKS NOR THRIFTS ARE MONOPOLISTIC PUBLIC UTILITIES. TENS OF
MILLIONS OF AMERICANS ROUTINELY BYPASS BANKS AND THRIFT
INSTITUTIONS ALTOGETHER, BUT STILL HAVE THEIR FINANCIAL NEEDS MET.

AS WE ALL KNOW, THE MARKET IS HIGHLY SENSITIVE TO COMPETITIVE
ADVANTAGES AND DISADVANTAGES. SO HOW DID THE MARKET REACT IN
THE FIRST WEEK AFTER THE FDIC PROPOSED THE NEW PREMIUM SCHEDULES
FOR BANKS? THE VALUE OF PUBLICLY TRADED SAIF-INSURED INSTITUTIONS
ROSE 5.9 PERCENT, WHILE THE VALUE OF PUBLICLY TRADED BIF-INSURED
INSTITUTIONS ROSE 3.3 PERCENT. THE DOW JONES AVERAGE OVER THAT
WEEK ROSE 2.7 PERCENT.
HAVING SAID ALL THAT, HOWEVER, I MUST NOTE THAT THE THRIFTS DO
HAVE A PROBLEM IN CAPITALIZING THE SAIF - AND A SAIF PROBLEM IS AN
FDIC PROBLEM. AS INSURER, WE HAVE TO BE CONCERNED THAT THE SAIF IS
UNDERCAPITALIZED. THE ANSWER TO THE PROBLEM IS NOT TO
DISADVANTAGE THE BANKING SYSTEM. THE ANSWER IS TO BUILD AN
INSURANCE FUND FOR THE THRIFTS THAT IS JUST AS STRONG AND SOLID AS
THE FUND THE BANKS ENJOY.
THAT IS NOT EASY.
THE PAST STILL HAUNTS THE SAVINGS AND LOAN INDUSTRY, AND
PARTICULARLY THE SAIF. FORTY-FIVE CENTS OUT OF EVERY DOLLAR THAT
FLOWS INTO THE SAIF FLOWS OUT TO SERVICE BONDS THAT PAID FOR THRIFT
FAILURES BEFORE THE CREATION OF THE RESOLUTION TRUST CORPORATION.
IF YOU HAVE EVER TRIED TO FILL A BUCKET WITH A BIG HOLE IN ITS SIDE,
YOU KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT.
THIS DRAW ON THE SAIF - TO MEET PAYMENTS ON FINANCING CORPORATION
OR "FICO" BONDS, AS THEY ARE CALLED - TOTALS $779 MILLION A YEAR.
THIS FICO OBLIGATION IS THE MAJOR OBSTACLE TO THE CAPITALIZATION OF
SAIF. THIS IS NOT A NEW ISSUE.
EIGHTEEN MONTHS AGO, FDIC ACTING CHAIRMAN SKIP HOVE WROTE
CONGRESS WARNING THAT THE FICO OBLIGATION CREATED A STRUCTURAL
PROBLEM IN THE CAPITALIZATION OF THE SAIF.
IF THERE HAD NEVER BEEN A FICO OBLIGATION, THE SAIF WOULD




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CAPITALIZE IN 1996.
IF THE FICO OBLIGATION WERE REMOVED TODAY AND WE MAINTAINED
TODAY'S PREMIUMS, THE SAIF WOULD RECAPITALIZE IN 1998.
AFTER THAT, A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENTIAL WOULD BE MUCH LESS LIKELY
BETWEEN BIF AND SAIF ASSESSMENT RATES.




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THRIFT INSTITUTION EXECUTIVES HAVE TOLD ME THAT IF THE FICO
OBLIGATION WERE LIFTED FROM THEM, THEY COULD LIVE WITH THE
PREMIUM DIFFERENTIAL FOR THE THREE YEARS IT WOULD TAKE THE SAIF TO
CAPITALIZE.
SIMPLY PUT, I AGREE WITH JONATHAN FIECHTER, ACTING DIRECTOR OF THE
OFFICE OF THRIFT SUPERVISION, THAT THE SAIF PROBLEM IS A FICO
PROBLEM.
KEEP IN MIND THAT THE ASSESSMENT BASE AVAILABLE TO SAIF TO MEET
FICO OBLIGATIONS HAS BEEN SHRINKING, ALTHOUGH THE SHRINKAGE HAS
SLOWED CONSIDERABLY IN THE LAST YEAR.
WHY?
THE LAW CREATED TWO TYPES OF INSTITUTIONS WHOSE SAIF ASSESSMENTS
CANNOT BE USED TO MEET FICO INTEREST PAYMENTS - SO-CALLED OAKAR
AND SASSER INSTITUTIONS - AND OVER TIME THE NUMBER OF THESE
INSTITUTIONS HAS GROWN. TOGETHER, OAKAR AND SASSER INSTITUTIONS
REPRESENT 30 PERCENT OF THE SAIF ASSESSMENT BASE. THE REMAINING 70
PERCENT OF THE ASSESSMENT BASE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FICO
OBLIGATION. OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS, THE RATE OF SHRINKAGE IN THE
ASSESSMENT BASE AVAILABLE TO MEET THE FICO OBLIGATION HAS SLOWED.
THE BASE SHRANK BY ONLY 1.8 PERCENT IN THE FIRST THREE QUARTERS OF
1994, COMPARED TO THE RECORD HIGH RATE OF 7.6 PERCENT IN 1990.
THE CURRENT EXPERIENCE EXPLAINS WHY FDIC ECONOMISTS PROJECT A 2
PERCENT PER YEAR SHRINKAGE RATE GOING FORWARD. THE FDIC RESEARCH
AND STATISTICS DIVISION HAS STRESS-TESTED SAIF UNDER A VARIETY OF
CONDITIONS, INCLUDING THE GROWTH OR SHRINKAGE OF THRIFT DEPOSITS,
THE PERCENTAGE OF THRIFT INDUSTRY DEPOSITS HELD BY OAKAR AND
SASSER INSTITUTIONS, AND PROJECTED THRIFT FAILURES MEASURED BY
ASSETS.
HERE ARE SOME OF THE ECONOMISTS' FINDINGS: IF THE DEPOSIT BASE
SHRINKS 2 PERCENT PER YEAR, THE FICO BONDS CAN BE SERVICED WELL INTO
THE SECOND DECADE OF THE TWENTY-FIRST CENTURY. IF THE BASE SHRINKS
SUBSTANTIALLY MORE, THEN SERVICING THE FICO BONDS COULD BE A
PROBLEM EARLIER, PERHAPS BEFORE THE YEAR 2000. IF THE OAKAR AND
SASSER PORTION OF SAIF CONTINUES TO GROW, IT WILL BECOME
INCREASINGLY DIFFICULT TO MAKE FICO INTEREST PAYMENTS FROM
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OF A BIF-SAIF PREMIUM DIFFERENTIAL. IN CONTRAST, IF THRIFT DEPOSITS
WERE TO GROW DRAMATICALLY, IT WOULD NOT SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGE
THE TIME IT TAKES FOR SAIF TO CAPITALIZE. CHANGES IN TROUBLED ASSETS
AND INTEREST RATES WOULD HAVE FAR GREATER EFFECT ON THE
CONDITION OF THE SAIF THAN CHANGES IN THE GROWTH OF THE DEPOSIT
BASE WOULD.
IF A 20 BASIS POINT - TO USE A ROUND NUMBER - DIFFERENTIAL EXISTS
BETWEEN BIF AND SAIF ASSESSMENT RATES AND WE RETURN TO THE
INTEREST RATES AND ASSET QUALITY CONDITIONS OF THE EARLY 1990S, IT IS
PROJECTED THAT ASSETS AT FAILED SAIF-MEMBER INSTITUTIONS COULD
INCREASE AS MUCH AS $2 BILLION OVER FIVE YEARS.
WHILE THESE ARE NOT INSIGNIFICANT NUMBERS, THEY ARE STIT T
MANAGEABLE FOR THE SAIF AT CURRENT 85 PERCENT RECOVERY RATES ON
FAILED ASSETS.
THE FDIC RESEARCH DIVISION EXPECTS TO RELEASE THE RESULTS OF ITS
ANALYSIS LATER THIS WEEK.
IN SETTING A 1.25 TARGET, CONGRESS RECOGNIZED THAT $1.8 BILLION IS NOT
ENOUGH TO ENSURE A SOUND SAIF - ONE WITH A LARGE CUSHION TO
ABSORB THE COSTS OF THRIFT FAILURES. THE FAILURE OF A SINGLE LARGE
INSTITUTION OR AN ECONOMIC DOWNTURN LEADING TO HIGHER THAN
ANTICIPATED LOSSES COULD RENDER THE FUND INSOLVENT. THIS IS TRUE
REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THERE IS A BIF-SAIF PREMIUM DIFFERENTIAL.
IT IS CLEAR THAT THE SAIF'S PROBLEM IS NOT A PREMIUM DIFFERENTIAL
BETWEEN SAIF AND BIF. THE SAIF'S PROBLEM IS MEETING ITS FICO
OBLIGATION - REGARDLESS OF WHETHER A DIFFERENTIAL EXISTS.
WHAT IS TO BE DONE?
A NUMBER OF PROPOSALS HAVE BEEN ADVANCED - SOME REQUIRING
FUNDING BY CONGRESS, SOME NOT.
ONE IS TO MAKE OAKAR AND SASSER ASSESSMENT REVENUE AVAILABLE TO
MEET FICO OBLIGATIONS. THAT APPROACH WOULD SLOW CAPITALIZATION
OF THE SAIF, HOWEVER, WITHOUT SOLVING THE FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM.
THE FDIC'S GOAL IS RECAPITALIZATION OF THE SAIF AS SOON AS FEASIBLE.
ANOTHER IS TO USE TREASURY FUNDS APPROPRIATED FOR THE RTC TO
REMOVE THE FICO OBLIGATION. THIS WOULD REQUIRE LEGISLATION.




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A THIRD PROPOSAL IS TO USE APPROPRIATED FUNDS TO CAPITALIZE SAIF.
A FOURTH PROPOSAL IS FOR BIF AND SAIF TO SHARE THE OBLIGATION 50/50.
AND A FIFTH PROPOSAL IS FOR BIF AND SAIF MEMBERS TO SHARE THE FICO
OBLIGATION PROPORTIONALLY, BASED ON THEIR PROJECTED BASES FOR
ASSESSMENT. UNDER THIS WRINKLE, BIF MEMBERS WOULD PICK UP 77
PERCENT OF THE FICO OBLIGATION AND SAIF MEMBERS WOULD FUND THE
REMAINING 23 PERCENT.
FINALLY, THERE HAS BEEN TALK OF MERGING THE FUNDS AND HAVING
MEMBERS PAY TO FUND THE OBLIGATION.

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ONE DOES NOT NEED A CRYSTAL BALL TO SEE THAT BANKERS HAVE A VITAL
INTEREST IN ASSURING THAT A REASONABLE AND FAIR SOLUTION EMERGES
TO THE FICO PROBLEM. IT MAY BE A COMFORTING ILLUSION TO THINK
OTHERWISE, BUT IT WOULD BE AN ILLUSION NEVERTHELESS. I URGE YOU TO
BE PART OF THE DIALOGUE. THE FDIC’S PROPOSALS ON BIF AND SAIF
PREMIUMS ARE OUT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. I URGE ALL OF YOU TO GIVE US
YOUR VIEWS. ALL COMMENTS WILL BE CONSIDERED CAREFULLY AND
THOROUGHLY BEFORE THE BOARD TAKES FINAL ACTION.
THE HEALTH AND STABILITY OF THE FINANCIAL INDUSTRY IS IN THE
INTEREST OF ALL WHO ARE A PART OF IT - PARTICIPANTS AS WELL AS
REGULATORS - BANKS AS WELL AS THRIFTS. NOTHING CONTRIBUTES MORE
TO THAT STABILITY THAN SOUND INSURANCE FUNDS.
THANK YOU.




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