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For Release on Delivery
Expected at 10;00 A.M. (E.D.T.)

Statement by
Paul A. Volcker
Chairman, Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
before the
Subcommittee on Commerce, Consumer, and Monetary Affairs of the




Committee on Government Operations
House of Representatives

April 30, 1980

Before turning to the substantive questions in your letter
to me, Mr. Chairman, let me say I am aware of a good deal of
confusion, misinterpretation, and questions engendered by the
initial press reports about my, or the Federal Reserve's involvement in certain loans to Hunt interests.

In the circumstances,

I particularly welcome this opportunity to outline my role, and
that of the Federal Reserve, with respect to assessing the financial
repercussions of recent silver market speculation.
As you are no doubt aware, the Federal Reserve has no statutory
or other authority over commodity markets in general or the silver
market in particular, nor over brokerage or commodity houses buying
and selling commodities for their own account or for others.

We

do have supervisory responsibility for member banks, but, with one
exception, our legal authority does not reach to particular loans
to particular customers, nor are we ordinarily informed of specific
loans or lending decisions except as part of the ex-post examination
process.

The Federal Reserve does, of course, have a general interest

in developments in any market that bears significantly upon economic
and inflationary developments, and particularly on developments that
may affect the safety of our financial institutions, most especially
banks.
Because of that general interest, I did initiate inquiries
of other agencies with direct responsibility for, or sharing a
general interest in, the performance of the commodities markets
when reports and rumors first surfaced last fall of unusual




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speculative activity in silver.

Those discussions led to little

or no specific information beyond that publicly available.

On

October 6, 1979, the Federal Reserve did make a general request
to banks to refrain from speculative lending as part of the credit
restraint program introduced at that time.

That action was not

specifically directed to the silver marketf but did reflect our
growing concern about speculative price developments in a number
of sensitive commodity markets.

Indeed, as we indicated at the

time? the highly speculative atmosphere contributed to our decisions
with respect to monetary policy generally.
We continued to follow price developments in the silver and
other commodity markets as part of our normal economic intelligence
throughout the fall and winter.

During this period, we had no

knowledge, apart from rumors reported in the press, of the size
or value of the Hunt positions in the silver market, or of any
bank lending against silver.

As you will recall, prices moved

sharply higher in December and January, amid intensified inflationary
expectations, but began to fall rapidly after an environment of
intense credit restraint developed.

In January and February, the

organized commodity exchanges also acted to increase margin requirements substantially and to limit individual positions.
The first indication I had of any potentially serious financial
consequences arising from the sharp fall of the silver price was
in an urgent call at midday on Wednesday, March 26 from a leading
brokerage house, indicating that Hunt interests were failing to
meet substantial margin calls and that certain loans the brokerage




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house had with banks, secured by Hunt silver, were either undermargined or in imminent danger of becoming undermargined.

As a

result, the firm was concerned that its capital position could
fall below certain requirements imposed by the SEC or the New
York Stock Exchange if the silver price continued declining, and
if further margin calls went unanswered.
I immediately alerted the Chairmen of the Commodity Futures
Trading Commission and the Securities and Exchange Commission, as
well as Treasury officials.

That afternoon, as well as in ensuing

days, the concerned agencies urgently began to develop farther
information about the extent of the Hunt involvement in the commodity
markets and the potential exposure of other brokerage houses,
commodity dealers, and commercial banks involved in Hunt business.
While precise and comprehensive data were difficult to obtain, it
quickly became apparent that hundreds of millions of dollars were
involved in silver credits or personal loans of one form or another,
There were also large amounts of credit outstanding to various Hunt
business enterprises; while those latter credits basically appeared
to grow out of ordinary business requirements and to be well secured,
the close relationships of those businesses to the Hunt family warranted
close scrutiny of the degree of insulation of those credits from
the personal fortunes of the family.
During this period, careful consideration was given by me and
others to possible action by the Federal Government with respect
to the silver market, but in the event no special government action




regarding the markets was deemed appropriate and desirable.
The Federal Reserve, itself, as I noted earlier, has no authority
over commodity markets or brokerage houses.

However, among other

things, the SEC and CFTC undertook to inspect the position of
certain brokers or commodity dealers with Hunt-related accounts,
and both the Federal Reserve and the Comptroller's Office, using
examination authority where appropriate, began to develop more
detailed information on the extent of commercial bank loan exposure,
including information on the collateral or other security for loans
to the Hunts and Hunt-related companies.
Late on Friday, March 28, I learned of some particularly
large forward contracts providing for the purchase of silver by
Hunt interests from the Engelhard Minerals & Chemical Corporation
at prices far above the current market.

Settlement was due after

the weekend, with no apparent prospect for payment.

Engelhard,

while itself in a strong profits and asset position, felt they
might be faced with a decision on Monday to sue the Hunts for
payment, forcing probable bankruptcy and possibly triggering
massive liquidation of silver positions to the peril of all
creditor institutions (and indirectly placing in jeopardy the
customers and creditors of those institutions in a financial
chain reaction)o

The alternative, as the company saw it, was

to negotiate with the help of some banks a credit to the Hunts
or intermediaries that could provide time for repayment and




avoid forced liquidation of silver in an already nervous,
depressed market.

The precise nature of the proposed credit

was rather vague to me, but the question did arise as to whether
such a credit would in any way be considered speculative within
the context of our credit restraint program.
After informing other government officials of this development and considering all the implications of the matter, I interposed no objection to Engelhard pursuing whatever negotiations the
company felt essential to protect its own position, but made it
quite clear that the net result should not be to free funds for
renewed speculative activity by any of the parties.

In view of

the wider implications, I asked to be kept informed of the progress
of any negotiations.
While fulfilling a speaking engagement before the Reserve
City Bankers Association meeting in Boca Raton, Florida that
weekend, I learned that the Engelhard and Hunt interests would
together approach a group of banks with a refinancing proposal
late in the evening on March 30 in Boca Raton.

While the nature

of that proposal was not known to me, I asked to be kept informed
because of the potential implications for the silver and financial
markets.

Subsequent to the negotiation (and well after midnight),

I was informed that the banks had, or planned to
by the Hunts and Engelhard on business grounds.

reject the proposal
Neither I, nor any

other government official, either instigated or guided these
negotiations.




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Following the rejection of the proposal to consolidate
and restructure the Hunt silver indebtedness, negotiations
proceeded through much of the night directly between the Hunts
and Engelhard.

The results of those negotiations, involving in

part the transfer of certain oil properties owned by the Hunts
to Engelhard, became known to me in the morning8 and were announced
the same day.

This exchange of assets for the Hunt indebtedness

to Engelhard involved no credit extension.
In the following days, the Federal Reserve and other agenciesr
continued efforts to develop more comprehensive information on the
extent of Hunt and Hunt-related obligations and to appraise the
potential vulnerability of banks and other intermediaries.

While

very large amounts of credit remained outstanding, those creditors
who had appeared to be in the most vulnerable position appeared to
have extricated themselves, albeit with some losses (some of which,
at least, have since been recouped).

Together with representatives

of other agencies, I also turned attention to ways of developing
means of avoiding further extreme speculative episodes of this
kind in the future, with all their implications for the stability
of financial institutions and financial markets.
The credit referred to in recent press articles first came
to my attention in a general way at the initiative of one of the
lead banks involved on Easter weekend.

By that time, lending

banks had more fully appraised their overall exposure to Hunt
interests and had reached at least tentative conclusions regarding




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the value of available Hunt assets and those of key Hunt-related
companies.

A small group of banks developed a concept over the

next few days about a method of restructuring the Hunt silver
indebtedness in a manner that would greatly strengthen the
security position of creditors with outstanding silver loans or
contracts*

In the process, new creditors would in some instances

replace existing creditors, while other creditors would essentially
exchange old loans with new.

The new bank loans would be to and

secured by the assets and earning power of, perhaps the strongest
of the Hunt-related companies, the Placid Oil Company.

Control

over the silver and silver contracts, with appropriate safeguards,
would pass into the hands of that same company.
loans to the Hunts would be paid off.

Silver-related

The immediate purpose would

be to protect more securely the interests of existing Hunt silver
creditors, bank and non-bank.

That result, in itself, was not,

and is not, contrary to the broad public interest in the stability
of financial markets and institutions.
I recognize that the outcome, while plainly desirable in the
interests of the creditors and financial stability generally, could
have as a by-product some stabilization of the financial position
of the Hunts themselves.

For that reason, my particular concern

was that the funds not be used, directly or indirectly, to support
new speculation by Hunt interests in the silver or in any other commod
market.

Moreover, while the creditors and others have a legitimate

interest in not forcing liquidation of silver in an unreceptive




market at the expense of their own stabilityf that of other
institutions, and the market itself, continued concentration of
a massive silver position in the hands of one family or institution
is fundamentally unhealthy for the performance of markets.
The bank negotiators indicated they fully understood iuy concerns on these issues; they have assured me that all parties to
the potential loan agreement recognize and share the concern.
On that understanding, and after consulting with other
government agencies, the bank negotiators were informed that our
main concern was that the loan be structured in such a manner,
through appropriate covenants or otherwisef that the fund^ not
directly or indirectly be used for speculative purposes? that
indeed the parties to the agreements refrain from silver and
other speculative commodity purchases for the life of the loan.
Provided that stipulation could be met, the banks could reasonably
conclude we had no objection, within the framework of our loan
restraint program, to the negotiations proceeding along the lines
of the general concept of the financing arrangement as a whole as
outlined to me.

The business and credit judgments .involved are,

of course, entirely their own.
I would emphasize, too, that the arrangements, if completed,
will be essentially a restructuring of existing obligations rather
than fresh credit, although the total of new bank loans could
exceed outstanding bank loans.

The difference would reflect re-

financing of obligations on futures or forward contracts or loans
extended by brokerage houses from their own funds.




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As the negotiations proceeded, I suggested to the banks that
they describe the nature of the financing in writing so that I
could respond in writing to pin down explicitly the safeguards
against speculative activity.

As a step toward that end, I and

my associates met with bank representatives, as well as with outside counsel involved in writing the loan agreement, so that a
clear understanding could be conveyed as to the nature of those
safeguards.
These negotiations were then, and are tcday to the best of
my knowledge, incomplete.

I believe a fair conclusion from my

discussions with the banks would be that the Federal Reserve would
not object to the conclusion of the negotiation —

indeed would

have no reasonable basis for such an objection in the framework
of the loan restraint program —

provided the restructuring of

the indebtedness in the manner indicated did not contribute to
fresh speculative activity.

That remains my judgment today.

I hope this recital makes it evident that neither I, nor any
Federal Reserve or government official, instigated or guided the
negotiation of the credit.

I did repeatedly insist that any

possibility of fresh speculation by Hunt interests* be avoided,
while not barring orderly resolution of the potential credit and
market problem.

Indeed, we can count ourselves fortunate that

while the Hunt family bears the losses and the residual risk,
the fabric of our financial institutions has been unimpaired and,
assuming the negotiations are completed, we will have in place




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protection from renewed Hunt speculation.
The larger issues remain.

There is evidence indicating that

there was an attempt to control the supply of a significant commodity;
to some degree, this stimulated uncertainty and inflationary
expectations more generally.

As the market price declined,

funding of the speculative positions required substantial
amounts of credit, and certain market intermediaries had,
wittingly or not, committed an excessive amount of their own
capital in support of speculative activity in one commodity by
a single group of people.

As the market values collapsed, some

of those institutions were placed in jeopardy, and their failure
could in turn have triggered financial losses for others and
severe financial disturbances.

Even today, a substantial fraction

of the privately held stocks of silver remains concentrated in
the hands of one group —

an unfortunate heritage of the past.

Organized commodity markets perform important economic
functions.

They provide a means for producers, middlemen, and

consumers alike to hedge positions acquired in the ordinary course
of business, facilitating production and commerce.

They encourage

broader participation in markets, including the kind of "benign"
speculation that assures market liquidity and bridges temporary
imbalances in ultimate supply and consumption.

The markets provide

for both buyer and seller a,clear set of price quotations established
in highly competitive markets.




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If the markets are to perform these functions, the costs
to those participating in the market cannot be too high, but
the legitimate "hedgers" and "speculators" that together make
the market cannot effectively function.

Yet, those same low

costs can attract an unhealthy kind of speculation, exemplified
by the Hunt activities.

At the extreme, while it is very rare,

situations can arise in some of the more limited markets where
relatively few operators (or even one group) may be tempted for
a time to operate in such a manner as to virtually control the
available supply and push the price to extremes in the hope of
reaping extraordinary profits.
In the end, the best defense against that type of behavior
must be the discipline of the market itself.
with efforts at "cornering" that failed,
experience has had a chastening influence.

History is replete

I hope the recent silver
But memories are short?

human greed leads to temptation; and an attempt to corner, successful
or not, can be extremely damaging, not just to the speculator, but
to all those who count on the stability of markets and financial
institutions.
The question is how to minimize the dangers —
without smothering the markets in their useful —
everyday work.

arising rarely -—

even indispensable -

I have no specific recommendations to make this

morning about the structure and regulation of these markets.
Indeed, I would caution against striking out with hastily conceived
restrictive legislation with respect to organized futures markets.
Those markets already have some considerable financial safeguards




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embedded in their structure.

One danger from excessive regulation

or the imposition of heavy costs is that activity will shift to
unregulated channels here or abroad, potentially leaving the
markets more vulnerable than before to manipulation or credit
weakness.
I do not suggest at all that the status quo should be left
unquestioned.

In discussions with colleagues in government, I

have urged that the interested agencies sponsor, and complete
within the shortest feasible time period, a dispassionate study
drawing upon thinking and experience outside the government as
well as within —

and the simple fact is the requisite knowledge

and experience within government is limited.

Specific questions

of the amount and form of margin requirements, of position limits
for traders, prudent capital requirements for market middlemen,
and other issues are sure to be relevant, and no single reform is
likely to provide a complete answer.
I am simply not able today, in so highly specialized an area,
to indicate with any confidence detailed judgments on these questions;
indeed, I believe it would be unwise to do so before I can benefit
more fully from the thinking of others familiar with market needs
and problems.

But I assure you I intend to pursue this matter,

and to share my conclusions with the relevant Committees of the
Congress.
Finally, I cannot refrain from emphasizing that the environment of inflation, and the uncertainty and doubts about the future
that accompany inflation, provided the fertile breeding ground
for the recent speculative activity in commodity markets generally




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speculation that reached an extreme form in the case of silver*
Stable, well functioning markets ultimately depend upon a sense
of stability and confidence in our currency —

and certainly that

sense of stability is at the center of our policy considerations
in the Federal Reserve.




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