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For release on delivery
-Wednesday, September 16, 1981
1(3:00 AM, EDT

Statement by
Paul A* Volcker
Chairman, Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System




before the
Committee on the Budget
United States Senate

September 16, 1981

I am particularly pleased to be here today.

It provides,

first, an opportunity to congratulate this Committee on its
leadership in measures already adopted to begin the process of
controlling the steeply rising trend of Federal spending.

Looking

ahead, I would like to consider with you the efforts that must
continue to be made to restore sound, non-inflationary growth
to our economy, recognizing the relevance to that objective of
healthy capital and money markets.
You are as aware as I of the difficulties in the current
economic scene.

Many individuals, businesses, and municipalities

are facing substantial stresses and strains, and much of the
discontent focuses on the persistence of extraordinarily high
interest rates.
In this situation, we must not lose sight of the fundamental cause of our current predicament:

the buildup of inflation

and inflationary pressures over many years.

A lasting resolution

of our economic problems generally, and the interest rate problem
in particular, will be found only in success in the battle against
inflation.

Should we be diverted from that objective, our economic

and financial problems will only be aggravated.
The fact is we can now begin to see significant signs of
progress in the fight on inflation.

The various measures of

prices this year have all shown somewhat slower rates of increase
than in the preceding two years.

While some sectors of the

economy are indeed under heavy pressure, the overall level of
economic activity is higher, and the rate of price increases
lower, than almost all economic forecasters thought probable
at the beginning of the year.




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Under the circumstances, it may be frustrating to
observe the skepticism and doubts reflected in the recent
performance of many financial markets.

I believe that

skepticism will be proved unwarranted.

But what is important

in that connection is not my belief or yours, but whether we
persevere in policies and actions to justify confidence.
The markets are reacting to the harsh reality of continuing inflationary momentum and heavy current and prospective
financing demands.

More broadly, they reflect the hopes and

forebodings of millions of citizens about the future as they
make investment decisions.

The hard fact is that repeatedly

in the past efforts to combat inflation, to curb deficits, and
to limit monetary growth were not sustained over a long enough
period to bring success.

For all the signs of progress today,

we need to recognize that, in some respects, the toughest part
of the job remains ahead.

We also need to recognize there is

no safe, painless alternative to the fiscal and monetary objectives
we have set for ourselves; indeed, a sense of retreat would not
only aggravate the present problems, but could set back the
prospects for restoring growth and stability for years to come.
In the area of monetary policy, I think we are all now
generally agreed that inflation will not be brought under control
without persistent restraint on growth in money and credit.
History provides ample evidence that inflation will not subside,
and price stability be maintained, without confining the longerterm trend growth of money and credit to amounts consistent with
the growth of output.




The Federal Reserve has stated its intention

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to pursue such a policy of restraint.

As I reported to the

Congress in July, we are reasonably on track currently in
achieving our reduced money supply objectives this year.
We also recognize, in the years ahead, growth in money
and credit will need to be further reduced.
In a situation of inflationary momentum and rising
costs,monetary restraint, however necessary, is not an easy
process.

I must also quickly point out the alternative of

trying to accommodate the provision of money to inflationary
demands could only be more painful over time.

We have learned

the hard fact that we cannot live comfortably with inflation,
that it only undermines our growth potential, and that it will
inevitably bring higher, not lower, interest rates.
What we as a government can do is to relieve the
pressures on the credit markets, on monetary policy, and on
the economy growing out of our fiscal imbalance.

As you are

well aware,the Administration and the Congress have taken
very large steps, in a remarkably brief period of time, to
stabilize and reduce the Federal tax take relative to national
income.

Indeed, as a percent of GNP, revenues should fall by

over 2 percent by 1984, reversing the climb to a post-war peak
of over 21 percent in recent years.

Looked at in isolation,

the new tax law offers the prospect over time of improving the
environment for business and personal savings and investment.
Investment incentives should be strengthened*by the capital
cost recovery provisions; the lowering of top bracket marginal




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taxes should help to increase the availability of venture
capital; and incentives for productive activities -- for
saving, working, and risk-taking -- should all be enhanced.
But we cannot escape the fact that tax changes also
involve a large loss of revenue in the years immediately
ahead; receipts will be about $80 billion less in 1984 than
at the existing GNP-tax ratio, and about $150 billion lower
than the pre-existing tax rates would have produced at the
same level of income.

There are, of course, two sides of the

budgetary equation, and we start from a position of a large
deficit.

Without spending restraint in place alongside tax

reduction, the Federal Government will continue to pre-empt
a large fraction of one of our scarcest resources -- savings.
Then, the most credit-dependent sectors of the economy would
inevitably remain particularly vulnerable, just as they are
today, in effect left with the crumbs from the national
economic table.

And even businesses directly benefitting from

tax reduction and new incentives will find themselves in strong
competition with the Government for available savings, blunting
the very objectives sought.
The problem -- which, of course, manifests itself in
exceptionally high interest rates -- will not, and can not,
be solved by inflationary money and credit creation by the
Federal Reserve.

The net result of that would be to incite

further borrowing and ultimately damage savings as well.




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Nor can a "solution11 be found by trying to ration scarce
credit and savings by some arbitrary and ultimately unenforceable system of credit controls; indeed, efforts by borrowers
to protect themselves and consequent market disruptions would
likely only make the situation worse.
What can be done -- and done consistent with our short
and longer-run objectives -- is to provide assurance that the
Federal fiscal position is indeed clearly on the track toward
balance.

On the spending side of the fiscal equation, the

Congress and the Administration have begun an effort unprecedented in my Washington experience to scale back the growth
of Federal outlays.

At the same time, it is evident that,

given the size of the tax reduction, the spending cuts made
so far -- large as they may be in historical perspective -have been only a

lf

downpaymentff on those needed to bring

expenditures into alignment with the receipts side of the
budget.

The Administration budget estimates presented to the

Congress during the debate on the tax bill always assumed a
large amount of as yet unspecified cuts for the fiscal years
ahead.

Those estimates have themselves been based on relatively

optimistic economic assumptions.

As I understand it, in voting

tax reductions by large majorities, the Congress accepted the
challenge of cutting the spending suit to fit the revenue cloth.
Failure to carry through on efforts to slow the growth
of Federal expenditures in amounts commensurate with the need
would leave us with the reality and prospect of large deficits




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in relation to our savings potential, with its inevitable
implications for financial markets and for sectors of the
economy dependent on credit.

The harsh fact is that the past

track record has not been encouraging; the Federal budget has
been in deficit in all but one of the past twenty-one years.
More often than not, deficit forecasts have been successively
enlarged with each new estimate.

It is doubts arising out of

this experience that, it seems to me, lie behind much of the
market skepticism.
More generally, our patience has been tried by efforts
to deal with inflation, and past efforts have been relaxed
prematurely.

Doubts that inflation will be brought under

control continue to act perversely as an incentive to borrow;
for their part, lenders remain reluctant and want to protect
themselves against the prospect of declines in the real value
of their assets.

Thus, even in conditions in which the economy

as a whole is sluggish at best, we have had strong inflationgenerated demands for credit pressing against constrained
supplies, which only serves to push up interest rates.
Aside from these expectational effects, the direct
impact of budget deficits on the market seems to me evident
in the data.

Net of capital consumption allowances -- that

is, the amount necessary to maintain the present stock of
business investment and housing -- we generated about 170
billion dollars of savings last year, reflected largely in




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business retained earnings, personal savings, and state and
local pension fund contributions.

That is what we have at

current levels of income to add to our plant and equipment,
to inventory, to housing -- and to finance the Federal Government deficit.

As shown on Table I, the financing required by

the combined unified deficit and off-budget Federal financing
totaled over $80 billion, nearly one-half of the total available.
The point is often made that, relative to our GNP, our
budget deficits are relatively small by international standards.
So they are.

But so are our savings, and it is the relation

between the two that counts.

(See Table II.)

I would quickly add that the effect of a deficit on the
economy and capital markets can only be judged in the context
of a particular economic situation.

There may be relatively

little risk of "crowding out11 in a period of high actual or
potential savings, falling investment demands, adequate homebuilding relative to demands, and low interest rates.

But that

is surely not the circumstances of today, in which we have a
clash in the market among competing demands.
The essence of my comments today is simple.

There are

intense financial pressures on many firms and individuals.

We

would all like to see relief from those pressures as soon as
possible.

We don't want them to recur.

Ultimately, that is

dependent on dealing with inflation -- and policies that do
not recognize that reality can only prolong the pain, whatever
their surface appeal.




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Dealing with inflation, in turn, requires restraint
on money and credit growth.

Entirely consistent with such

restraint, reduction in Federal deficits -- and the perception
that those reductions will be continued until balance is
reached -- will greatly help to relieve market pressures and
to make room for the investment and housing we want.
I can appreciate the irony, from your point of view and
mine, of some recent financial market developments.

Amid

encouraging signs of progress on inflation, with your strong
efforts toward expenditure control, with firm monetary restraint
in place, the markets seem to be expressing doubts.

But after

all, Americans have not seen for many years a successful fight
on inflation

or balanced budgets or so massive a tax reduction.

A lot of bets on the future are still being hedged against the
possibility that you, and we, will not carry through.
We have been at critical junctures before in the fight
on inflation -- and the bleak reality is we have not had the
foresight and the courage to stay the course.

That is why we

have gradually come into the grip of the most prolonged and
debilitating inflation in our entire economic history.

The

lesson is clear -- we must carry forward on the basic fiscal
and monetary course upon which we have embarked.

To do less

would not only throw aside the signs of progress we are seeing?
it would inevitably make even more difficult an attack on
inflation in the future, with all that would imply for our
economy and our society.




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We mean to do our part, and I am sure we can count
on this Committee to carry on the effort it has so well
started.




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Table 1
SOURCES OF SAVING IN THE UNITED STATES
(National Income and Product Accounts Basis)

1975-79
Billions
Percent
of dollars of GNP

1980
Billions
Percent
of dollars of GNP

Gross national saving^
Capital consumption

353.3
201.0

18.1
10.3

457.2
287.2

17.4
10.9

Net national savingsPersonal
Corporate
Other

152.3
82.7
47.0
22.6

7.8

4.2
2.4
1.2

169.9
101.3
44.3
24.3

6.5
3.9
1.7
.9

Memo:
Federal government deficit^
(unified plus off-budget)

-60.9

-3.1

-83.4

-3.2

1. NIPA gross saving excluding NIPA federal surplus (or deficit) plus
net foreign investment (sign reversed).
2. The federal deficit on an NIPA basis averaged $425 billion in 1975-79,
2.4 percent of GNP, and was $61.2 billion in 1980, 2.3 percent of GNP. The
off budget deficit, alone, averaged 14.3 billion in 1979-80, and was $15.3
billion in 1980.
SOURCE: U.S. Department of Commerce, Bureau of Economic Analysis, National
Income and Product Accounts. All rates are calculated as the average value of
item for the period, divided by the average value of GNP. Details may not add
to totals because of rounding.







Table 2
INTERNATIONAL COMPARISONS OF SAVING
(U.N. System of National Accounts Basis)

1975-1979 Average
Gross
Net
Saving
Saving-*

—Percent of gross domestic product—
Canada

20.8

10.1

Japan

32.0

19.0

France

22.8

11.6

Italy

22.2

12.2

Germany

23.0

11.8

United Kingdom

18.0

6.8

United States

17.2

4.9

1. Gross saving less capital consumption allowances.
SOURCE: Organization for Economic Cooperation and
Development, National Accounts of OECD Countries,
1962-1979 (Volume II). All country data are reported
according to the United Nations System of National
Accounts, which differ from the United States NIPA.
Details may not sum to totals because of rounding.