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Por Release on Delivery
8:15 A.M* EDT
June 13, 1994

Remarks by
John P . LaWare
Member, Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
at the
American Bankers Association's
1994 National Regulatory Compliance Conference
Washington, D.C.
June 13, 1994

Good morning.

In all my 35 years in the private sector as a

banker, I never saw myself keynoting an ABA Conference on
Regulatory Compliance.

But, after six years on the job at the

Fed, I am reconciled to my new role as a regulator.

I try always

to be a reasonable one and avoid, to the extent possible, adding
to an already suffocating burden of regulation on banks.

But the

Congress in its wisdom often overdoes its legislative act and
imposes unnecessary, rigid, restraints on regulators' ability to
use their judgment.
In our report to Congress in 1992, the Exam Council
attempted to catalog and define the burden on banking
organizations.

We have also attempted to rewrite some of the

regulations to simplify language and ease the burden.

But in

spite of our efforts, the implementation of FDICIA has added
significantly to regulatory burden.
One way to reduce burden would be to eliminate overlapping
and redundant supervision of banks by federal regulators.

It was

in pursuit of that goal that the Treasury proposed last fall to
collapse four regulatory entities —
and the FDIC —

the OCC, the Fed, the OTS

into one new Federal Banking Commission.

As you know, we at the Federal Reserve support the concept
of consolidation but could not support the idea of a single
agency.

For a time we engaged in a public debate with Treasury.

But in February both agencies recognized that we needed to
compromise, and the decision was taken to sit down together and
work out the differences.

Our discussions with the Treasury led

to a mutual accommodation involving significant compromise by

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both sides, but which also creates a considerably streamlined
structure; which will work well; which meets many of the primary
concerns of both the Treasury and the Fed; and also addresses
some of the principal concerns of banks about regulatory overlap
and overkill.
The principles we have incorporated in the agreement are as
follows:
First —

A continuing participation by the Federal Reserve
in the regulation and supervision of the largest
banking organizations, recognizing the important
role the Fed must play in maintaining the
integrity of the payment system, the operation of
the window as the lender of last resort and
maintaining the stability of the financial system.

Second —

Reduction in the number of federal regulators in
the interest of economy of operation,
standardization in rule-making and statute
implementation and elimination of redundant
examinations by multiple agencies.

Third —

Preservation of the dual banking system and the
distinction between a federal and a state charter.
This system, in place since 1863, has served the
country well.

Fourth —

Preservation for commercial banks of the right of
choice of a federal regulator.

Fifth —

Avoiding, if at all possible, imposing any
additional cost burden on the banks as a
consequence of this regulatory restructuring.

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In my opinion, we succeeded in incorporating all of these
principles.

We will be able to present to the Congress a

proposal which both the Treasury and the Federal Reserve can
enthusiastically support.

I think the banks, the Congress, the

Administration and the Federal Reserve are all anxious to move
toward reform in this area.

Unfortunately the complexity of the

legislation necessary to implement these reforms made the
drafting process a longer one than we had anticipated.

In view

of the heavy legislative calendar, we decided to wait until the
new Congress meets in 1995 to present our proposal.

It will

undoubtedly require extensive hearings in both Houses.

It is, in

our judgment, better to give it the full time frame of a Congress
rather than try to squeeze it into the final few months of an
election year agenda already loaded with health care, welfare
reform, interstate branching, community development banking, and
increasing attention to derivatives.
I want to turn now to another topic, since I am not able to
share with you at this point the details of our regulatory
reorganization proposal, beyond what I have already said.
The subject of derivatives is being discussed currently in
an overheated environment created by recent market volatility,
one or two sizable accidents, and media treatment which has
created an aura of mystery and danger.

Those factors have

stimulated the usual reaction of Congress which is to want to
regulate everything that moves.
Some would like us to believe that derivatives are a new
phenomenon —

in fact, so new, so complicated and so dangerous

that no one presently living can possibly understand them, let

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alone know how to manage them.

Not so!

Derivatives have been

around for a long time and have been used primarily to contain
risk by providing a way to hedge price volatility, primarily in
commodities but also in financial instruments.

Futures and

options contracts are veterans of generations of use in the
commodities markets, and short positions, puts and calls have
been factors in financial markets as well.
To be sure, these instruments have not always been used
solely on defense or to minimize risk.

By their very nature,

they can also be used for speculative purposes.

But, then, what

financial instrument cannot be used for speculation?

In the most

simplistic illustration, it can be argued that a person buying a
share of stock expecting the price of that share to go up while
it is held, is speculating.

If the price goes up, there is a

profit; if it goes down, there is a loss.

And, if the company

invested in fails, the investor loses everything.

The size of

the bet only makes it more dramatic, but it doesn't change the
fundamental elements of the transaction.
The complexity of certain of the newer, more exotic
derivative instruments may make their operation more difficult to
understand, particularly under varying degrees of volatility in
the markets.

To try to understand these new instruments, very

sophisticated mathematical models have been designed to simulate
the behavior of markets and of market instruments during episodes
of volatility which are usually triggered by wide swings in
interest rates.
During the recent episodes, some of the models failed to
provide the guide to safe harbor because they assumed narrower

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swings in interest rates than actually took place.

Should we be

concerned because of the magnitude of the losses incurred by
investors in the Granite Funds or by Procter & Gamble?

I think

not!
Those who invest in hedge funds like Granite are well-heeled
speculators, willing to take very significant risks in pursuit of
higher than usual profits.

Where the minimum investment is $250

thousand or even as much as $1 million, are we really concerned
that some of the rich high-rollers lose a bundle in the course of
a market adjustment?

Well, I, for one, have not shed any tears.

And, my protective instincts are not stirred by the plaintive
cries of "foul” from a giant manufacturer which walked eagerly
into a highly speculative transaction with a huge bet and stayed
with it while the market piled on the losses.

By the same token,

is anyone really concerned about the roulette player at Las Vegas
who loses the farm?

No!

And, there is no evidence that gullible

widows and orphans are playing the derivatives market unless they
are very rich widows and orphans who should know what they are
doing.

And, in that case, who cares.

Much of the current rhetoric urging legislation to regulate
derivatives and their use focuses on threats to the safety and
soundness of banks.

Some argue that proprietary trading in

derivative instruments is extraordinarily risky and, therefore,
inappropriate for banks with insured deposits.

But, making term

loans to businesses is probably the riskiest business of banks,
and we don't give that a second thought.
A simple but useful definition of banking is that the banker
essentially manages financial risks for his depositors.

His job

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is to manage risk not avoid it.

It is certainly reasonable to

assume that exotic, or at least exotically named derivatives are
riskier than single-family mortgage loans.

But does it follow

that they are, therefore, unmanageable and should be prohibited
to banks?

Or, even more ridiculous, that the only ones who

understand derivatives are Member of Congress who can set the
world right by yet another legislative adventure in micromanaging the banking system?
Let's be realistic.
mysterious.

Derivatives are not new.

They are not

And, if managed properly, like any risk, they are

not particularly dangerous.

An Indianapolis 500 race car is not

in and of itself a dangerous vehicle.

It is only dangerous and

life threatening in the hands of an ordinary driver.

And, in

that analogy lies the answer to the question of what to do about
derivatives.
I am convinced that with full disclosure by banks of their
derivatives activities and exposure, trained examiners will be
able to assess the risk inherent in the activity and then make an
informed judgment whether the risk management process in the bank
is adequate to protect against a disastrous loss that would
threaten depositors and shareholders.

A satisfactory risk

management system for a trading bank must include:
1.

A position monitoring and reporting system capable of
keeping management absolutely current with market
developments and the bank's position.

2.

Stop-loss disciplines to automatically trigger close­
out of deteriorating positions.

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3.

Exposure limits for each category of risk undertaken
and these should be specifically known to and approved
by the board of directors.

4.

Credit policies and procedures for adequate assessment
of counter-party credit risk.

5.

Authority to make exceptions to position limits and
stop-loss procedures vested in senior management
officials who are not responsible for the profitability
of the trading operations.

6.

Market models used for designing investment and trading
strategies must enable management to "stress test" the
bank's position to identify emerging problems in a
changing market.

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And, finally, management, both top management and
trading management, should have a thorough
understanding of the instruments and how they are being
used and trading management should be experienced in
trading in volatile as well as stable markets.

If examiners have enough information disclosed to them to
make an accurate assessment of the degree of risk undertaken by a
bank, they should then be able to judge the ability of a given
institution to handle that risk and take whatever steps are
needed to adjust individual institutions to their risk tolerance.
Legislation would inevitably try to set standards or
parameters for the industry which ignore individual differences
among institutions.

On the other hand, with disclosure and

trained examiners, the supervisors will be able to recognize

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individual capacities and permit broader range for those who are
qualified and restrict participation for the amateurs.
I am sure you sense my aversion to legislated regulation
when good supervision can do a better job.

I only hope that we

can persuade Congress not to jump in, at least until there is a
better reason to do so.
I want now to turn to another regulatory issue which is a
potential source of real trouble to banks, but which we may have
an opportunity to deal with more rationally.

Banks are being

beset by efforts to transform the Community Reinvestment Act —
CRA —

into a system of mandatory credit and resource allocation

with cease and desist orders and civil money penalties as the
price of noncompliance.

This re-invention of CRA was undertaken

in response to a Presidential request to re-vamp CRA regulations
to eliminate unnecessary paperwork and to put more emphasis on
lending in minority and low- and moderate-income neighborhoods.
Those are certainly admirable goals enthusiastically embraced by
all of us who believe in CRA as sound public policy and who have
recognized that its enforcement in the recent past has often
concentrated more on form than substance.
But, oh my!, the proposal recently out for public comment,
which was drafted by the regulatory agencies, has little relation
to the President's request for reduced record keeping since it
suggested new reporting requirements on banks which would add
tremendously to regulatory burden.

In addition, it proposed

standards for bank lending and branch locations which were
blatant attempts to allocate credit and resources.

Congress in

its wisdom over the years has assiduously avoided credit

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allocation, even in fervent pursuit of its most cherished causes.
The recent proposal was an outright administrative contravention
of the historic intent of Congress.

One might also argue

successfully that since the Community Reinvestment Act does not
provide for the imposition of fines or other punitive measures
for noncompliance, inclusion of such measures in the current
proposal is without foundation in statute.
Putting more definition into compliance standards for CRA is
certainly desirable.

It would help bankers manage the compliance

of their organizations and it would help examiners to have better
defined standards for compliance examinations.

I would contend,

however, that both of those desirable goals can be achieved by
less draconian measures than those recently proposed.
The most sensitive nerve-ends in that proposal related to
the imposition of quantitative market share standards for CRA
lending; a requirement that banks have branches which are readily
accessible to customers in low- and moderate-income
neighborhoods; and the possible imposition of cease and desist
orders and civil money penalties for banks found to be
substantially not in compliance.
The quantitative lending test based on market share was
clearly intended to allocate credit and is highly questionable
from a public policy point of view.

Perhaps equally important,

the scramble to make loans in a defined market in order to reach
market-share compliance requirements could result in safety and
soundness problems.

After all, the classic way to move market

share is to offer a better deal. In marketing loans, unless I
have missed something in a long banking career, a better deal

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means any or all of the following:
terms, or relaxed credit standards.

lower interest rates, better
Any one of those, carried to

an extreme could create safety and soundness problems.

A

combination of all three is a sure formula for disaster.
There is already anecdotal evidence from one or two
metropolitan areas that banks are paying bounties to anyone who
refers a successful minority or low- or moderate-income loan
applicant.

In anticipation of the proposed regulation being

adopted finally, banks are apparently already playing the numbers
game to get loans on the books.

If that sort of behavior is

widespread, I smell real trouble down the road.
The proposed imposition of an obligation that banks have
branches readily accessible to low- and moderate-income customers
is certainly an attempt to allocate bank resources and has a
questionable relationship to the extension of credit.

Modern

lending techniques do not require a branch facility either to
solicit business, take applications or service the customer.
Automated teller machines provide access to cash and deposit
facilities which are probably more efficient than a branch from
the customer's point of view in any case.

A standard of

convenience and need related to branch location is a reversion to
standards of 25 years ago.
completely obsolete.

Technology has made those standards

Most banks today are shrinking their branch

networks, not in abandonment of markets, but because there are
other more efficient ways to distribute services than through
brick and mortar branches.
The proposed imposition of punitive measures for substantial
noncompliance raises legal questions since the Community

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Reinvestment Act itself contains no provision for noncompliance
penalties other than the implied authority for regulators to turn
down applications from institutions with unsatisfactory CRA
records.

It seems obvious that the inclusion of cease and desist

and civil money penalty authority in the proposal was designed to
force the proposed allocation of credit and resources in
furtherance of social engineering goals.
As a matter of public policy, I have grave concerns over
that course of action.
are eminently sound.

The purposes for which CRA was enacted
Banks do have a moral obligation to meet

the credit needs of the communities in which they operate.

Over

the years since CRA enactment, the Federal Reserve has developed
programs and conferences and publications designed to encourage
banks to take an aggressive stance in community lending.

The

Federal Reserve emphasis has been that it can be good, profitable
business when done the right way and the incentive ought to be
profitable opportunity rather than avoidance of costly penalties.
I think our approach has worked.

Banks all over the country have

sponsored programs of lending that have channeled billions of
dollars into cities like New York, Philadelphia, Boston,
Pittsburgh, Los Angeles, Denver, Atlanta, Dallas, Houston and
many others.

In addition, banks in smaller cities and rural

areas have learned how to meet the specialized needs of their
communities with safe and sound lending programs.

It has always

seemed to me that positive incentives like profitability and
economic development are better than fear of retribution and
fines.

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But the news isn't all bad.

Thanks to the over 2,000

comments the agencies received, we have a solid basis for
substantially revising the proposal in an attempt to eliminate
the worst aspects and achieve the President's original objectives
of more lending and less paperwork.

We are working to find ways

to encourage more lending without allocating credit and resources
and I hope we can avoid any onerous new reporting requirements.
There is a serious legal question raised by the proposed
imposition of cease and desist orders and civil money penalties.
To my way of thinking, the best way to deal with that is simply
to drop it.
A new CRA proposal probably merits another round of public
comment and I hope the agencies will all agree to that.

Better

to take a little longer with this project and get it right this
time.
There are, of course, other regulatory issues in which we
all have an interest.

FAS 115 and its impact on portfolio

management and regulatory capital is an important issue.

The

purists would argue that changes to capital as a result of mark
to market exercises should be reflected in calculations of
regulatory capital with the attendant risk of triggering prompt
corrective action even though the losses posted are unrealized.
My own view is that a bank is a going concern and unrealized mark
to market losses and gains should not be posted to the capital
account for regulatory purposes.
Interstate branching, which will be in conference, raises a
host of regulatory compliance issues which very well might delay
final action long enough for the bill to die with this Congress

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in December.

I hope not, but there are so many technicalities it

may simply be impossible to deal with all of them in conference.
Regulatory compliance is tough now and it will probably get
tougher.

Congress likes to legislate and increasingly banks

offer an opportunity for them to micro-manage by statute.

Also,

at a time of fiscal constraint at the federal level, the credit
capacity of the banking system offers a convenient mechanism to
finance social programs.

The capital of bank shareholders is

substituted for public funds.
I wish I could offer a brighter outlook for the future.
cannot.

I

The danger, as yet unrecognized in Congress, is that the

burden of regulation will suffocate the banking industry by
putting it at such a competitive disadvantage to other providers
of financial services that it cannot survive.
Thank you for your attention.
answer your questions.

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I would be glad to try to