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Department of th e T R E A S U R Y

COMPTROLLER OF THE CURRENCY
THE ADMINISTRATOR OF NATIONAL BANKS

WASH., D.C. 20219 447-1798

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FOR RELEASE ON DELIVERY
May 19, 1975
"Remarks,,,of James E. Smith
Comptroller of the Currency
Before the Annual Convention of
The Pennsylvania Bankers Association,"^
^Atlantic City, New Jersey
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It is a particular pleasure for me to address the
Pennsylvania Banker's Association this morning, for the National
Banking System really started in your state. First Pennsylvania
holds National Bank Charter Number 1, originally issued in 1863.
My message today deals with the present and future of
banking, rather than with its honored past. Information
processing technology now makes it possible for banks to serve
the financial needs of their customers with far greater speed and
convenience than was possible even a few short years ago. EFTS
is the acronym used to describe the electronic delivery of
financial services to the customer where and when he wants them.
To insure a common_basis for understanding my views of
electronic banking or EFTS,) it may help to review theli>asic elements
in a system. Computer terminals are normally linked to a bank
computer by telephone lines. The terminal may be as simple as a
touch-tone telephone or as complex as an automated teller machine.
The important thing is that these terminals simply permit a
customer to transmit transaction instructions to his bank. Thus
the services may be made available to the customer where he is
rather than forcing him to come to where the bank is.
Though the terminals are the most visible components in
an EFTS system, the real action takes place in the programs and
on-line account files on the bank's computer. These programs
define the transactions that can be accommodated through the
system and handle all of the accounting tasks for the customer
and the bank.
Gomputèr terminal networks are certainly not new.
Airlines and retailers have been using them for years to log
reservations and record sales. Some of the more innovative bankers
had been seeking ways to employ this technology to better serve
the consumer and a number of limited EFTS experiments were
undertaken around the country.




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Perhaps the most significant of these was the installation
of simple $500 terminals in Hinky Dinky supermarkets in Lincoln,
Nebraska, in January 1974. First Federal Savings and Loan of
Lincoln had developed a system which would permit their customers
to make deposits or withdrawals from their Savings and Loan
depository account through these supermarket terminals. Thus,
simple transaction services were made available to customers during
store hours, 7-days a week in contrast to the limited hours of
operation of First Federal's branches.
Of perhaps greater significance to the financial industry
than the First Federal - Hinky Dinky experiment itself was^
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the sequence of events surrounding the FHLBB "place of business
funds transfer regulation that made the services legal for
federally chartered S&L's. First, a perceptive and innovative
savings association manager discerned a customer need and
developed a service to satisfy that need. When the regulatory
status of that service was not clear, he sought enabling regulation
to permit his association to employ existing technology in a
creative fashion. The experimental regulation followed, to be
further modified five months later based on experience rather
than conjecture.
The Federal Home Loan Bank Board followed its initial
regulation with a modification in May of 1974 and new EFTS plans
were being translated into competitive services by an increasing
number of savings and loans. My constituents, the national banks,
started clamoring for clarification of their legal ability to
compete. National bankers, banker associations and state regulators
from 14 states approached the Comptroller's Office questioning
the interpretation of federal law, the interaction of federal
law with diverse state laws, the competitive balance within the^
banking industry and between banks and other financial institutions,
and the future development of electronic banking services which
will benefit the banking public and alter traditional banking
methods.
In response to these forces for change, the Comptroller s
Office initiated an exhaustive review of the law and began
formulating a position on EFTS. The results of this review were
published on December 12, 1974 as an interpretive ruling clearly
setting forth as a matter of law and sound public policy that
off-premise customer bank communication terminals (CBCT's) could
be operated by national banks without regard to the restrictions
contained in federal law regulating branch banks.
Underlying this interpretive ruling was the historic
responsibility of the Office of the Comptroller for the
establishment and development of a National Banking System and




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the obligation implicit in that charge to periodically take
account of the competitive environment facing national banks.
That the competitive environment was substantially altered in
January 1974 by the Federal Home Loan Bank Board is clear. My
obligation to preserve and enhance competition, to assure that
available technology could be employed to improve the quality and
efficiency of banking service to the public, is equally clear.
The CBCT ruling was intended as a clarification of the
non-branch status of these terminal systems and as the removal
of a legal barrier to National bank competition with federally
chartered Savings and Loan Associations.
I recognized the
potential state law problems faced by state chartered commercial
banks and, at the request of the Conference of State Bank
Supervisors, incorporated an nurgedn deferral until July 1, 1975
for those national banks operating in states where legislation
would clearly prohibit state banks from electronic competition.
This deferral period allowed state legislatures to assess the EFTS
issues and determine the appropriate legislation governing t ^ s e
state chartered institutions under their jurisdiction. Ten (10)
states have enacted EFTS legislation, seventeen (17) more are
expected to address the issues during the current session and^
twenty-seven (27) have existing legislation insuring competitive
equity between state and national banks operating in their state.
This legislative progress is a genuine tribute to the
state supervisors, bankers associations and individual banking
leaders within each state. The issues are indeed complex and
confusing, given so little actual experience to date.
I can not overemphasize the value of this experience,
for regulation or legislation based instead on conjecture or
speculation clearly runs counter to innovation in this preliminary
stage of EFTS development. The minimal extent of our initial
regulation represents a carefully considered decision that
regulation should follow an experience curve and be limited to
those situations where experience demonstrates the need for
regulation. This position was substantially supported during the
March 14 Senate hearings on S-245, the proposed EFTS Moratorium
Bill, by testimony given by other Federal regulators, several
industry trade associations, and the Department of Justice. As
experience is gained, I shall carefully and decisively employ my
regulatory authority to preserve and enhance competition in the
public interest in accordance with my Congressional charter of
accountability.




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To gain maximum benefit from that limited experience
gained by savings and loans and commerical banks alike,
public hearings were held on April 2nd and 3rd. Thirty-five
witnesses testified and several institutions filed prepared
statements to aid our evaluation of the original CBCT ruling.
The hearings reaffirmed the undesirability of premature or
anticipatory regulation, for this would serve to stultify the
optimum development of this technological development.
Witnesses described the variety of competitive options
available to smaller banks which may lack the resources to
independently offer their customers the convenience of EFTS
services. Cautions were raised regarding systems security,
consumer rights and liabilities, and the unrestricted geographic
coverage of the initial ruling. We listended as intently to
these cautions and concerns as to the enthusiastic support of
the ruling by others.
One witness suggested specific revision to limit CBCT
installations to a bank's home market area before any further
geographic expansion were permitted. Such a limitation also would
help to allay the fears expressed on behalf of small banks, and
thus promote the healthy development of the banking system, both
state and national, by focusing the attention away from an
unproductive intraindustry dispute and toward the development
of techniques to meet competition from other industries and to
better serve the banking public. Others encouraged that some form
of sharing be allowed so as to permit national bank participation
in several regional, statewide or multi-state joint ventures
currently in the planning stages. Though I do not favor sharing
as a general rule, especially where a bank has adequate resources
to competitively develop and install its own CBCT's , the argument
for allowing sharing where consistant with anti-trust laws was
persuasive.
Following the hearings, we carefully evaluated the testimony
to determine the next regulatory step. A modification to the
ruling was announced May 9 with the following major provisions:
CBCT's are definitely not branches. The Federal
Deposit Insurance Corporation announced their support of this
contention on Monday, May 12 and will soon issue a formal statement
on the subject.




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deposit taking institutions already serving the trade area of the
proposed CBCT.
Consumer protection procedures including disclosure
to customers of their rights and liabilities and safeguards against
wrongful or accidental disclosure of confidential consumer
information are now required by the notification process.
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Permission has been granted for national banks to use
CBCT's installed and owned by another bank or third party. The
modified ruling also permits national banks to participate in
statewide networks such as those legislatively permitted in
Nebraska and Kansas, and contemplated in Missouri and Minnesota.
-- Specifically excluded from reporting requirements are
those terminals whose sole function is to accomplish a
verification or authorization function, a funds transfer for
payment of goods or services, and through which neither cash is
dispensed nor cash or checks left for subsequent deposit.
In addition, the May 9 modification makes quite clear our
intent to consult closely with the Anti-trust Division of the ^
Department of Justice to insure that no potentially anti-competitive
activities or arrangements are permitted under this ruling. On the
consumer protection aspects of the ruling, each notification will
be reviewed by my Consumer Affairs Department to insure compliance
with the spirit and the laws already enacted dealing with the
relationship between a bank and its customers.
Congress quite clearly expressed its concern that EFTS
be allowed to develop with a minimum amount of government regulation
or intervention and a minimum of competition consistant with adequa
consumer protection when it established the National Commission on
Electronic Funds Transfer Systems last October. Though the Commissi
has yet to be formed, I strongly support its Congressionally
imposed purpose and functions. The Commission shall enjoy a unique
opportunity to draw upon the most capable people in the industries
and government agencies represented and to elicit the broadest base
of data from which to draw its conclusions.
I am most anxious
for the Commission to be formed and commence its great tasks, tor
the Commission findings should prove most valuable to regulators
and the industry alike. Accordingly, I intend to imploy the May
CBCT Modified Ruling substantially unchanged until the final
Commission report is available for guidance.
Thus, experience can be gained in a controlled and orderly
environment, benefiting the Commission activities, and banks can
proceed with their planning and capital investments^for electronic
banking without fear of the ground rules changing significantly
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hrovide protection for the unwilling non-competitive bank nor to
Establish a competitive advantage for any particular group of
banks. Rather, it is to enable national banks to meet the
'competitive challenges of other financial and non-finaneial
service institutions in a free market economy for the benefit of
the consumer and banking industry alike.
Free market competition, however, does not imply lack of
To the contrary, restraint must be
exercised by banks in those situations where imprudent or unusually
venturesome actions are likely to work to the detriment of the
.industry as a whole. A miximum of good faith and prudent judgement
must be exercised by bankers and regulators, both state and national,
during these early days of EFTS so as not to kill innovation through
counterproductive and lengthy litigation.

restraint or regulation.

This is the time for thorough assessment of all options
available to a bank in its competitive forays. Simply because EFTS
activities may now be regulatorily permissible, the basic business
decision process must prevail.
Capital adequacy and bank earnings
[must be critical factors in the evaluation of competitive options.
Where a national bank serves a trade area which spans state boundaries,
as is the case in a number of metropolitan areas, the bank would
be well advised to consult with the state banking commissioners
in both states before installing a CBCT under our regulation. This
consultation should have as its objective, the reconciliation of
bankers' competitive objectives and the state regulators' concerns
for competitive equity on the part of their state chartered banks.
I and my staff would welcome the opportunity to meet with the
bankers and state regulators on an informal basis to work cooperatively
and dilligently to achieve professional innovations in banking
services for the public benefit.
Some form of limited reciprocity
agreements between state regulators is clearly perferrable to
repeated and unnecessary litigation, though this office does not
shirk from the prospect of future litigation.
In conclusion, it is my firm belief that reasonable people
can agree on developments which break genuinely new ground for
the banking industry and the public. Let us substitute reason
and rational analysis for emotional response.
Such is the task
of the National Commission and so must be the charge to regulators
and those who are regulated. Good faith and good will on all
sides of the issues and a willingness to consult and work toward
the establishment of informal agreements can permit much progress
to occur, even in the absence of express legislation, by the states*




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