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FEDERAL DEPOSIT INSURANCE CORPORATION

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Statement on
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"TO EQUALIZE COMPETITION BETWEEN STATE AND NATIONAL
BANKS AND FOR O T H E R PURPOSES"

Presented to
Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs
United States Senate

by

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Irvine H. Sprague, Chairman
Federal DepositZ/Insurance Corporation

5302 Dirksen Senate Office Building
10:00 a.m.
O o e c e m b e r 17, 1979

Good morning Mr. Chairman, members of the Subcommittee.
We are here today to discuss legislation that would confer
permanently on State-chartered banks the authority that national
banks have enjoyed for 46 years to lend at a m a x i m u m interest
rate of one percent above the discount rate, regardless of State
law.
We support the thrust of this bill, S. 1988, but only as an
emergency measure to meet a disruptive economic situation which
some States themselves cannot deal with at this point.
We would note that at the time the national bank provision
became part of the Banking Act of 1933, the Federal Government
exercised no systematic supervisory or regulatory authority
with regard to State-chartered banks unless such banks had
voluntarily joined the Federal Reserve system.

It was only with

that landmark Banking Act of 1933, which established Federal deposit
insurance for State-chartered as well as National banks, that
Federal supervision and regulation of State no n —member banks
was also begun.
As a general principle,

I am opposed to interfering in matters

traditionally a state concern, such as usury laws.
situation may be an exception,

The present

in a limited sense, because the

current phenomenon of volatile, high market interest rates
colliding with relatively low usury ceilings is causing severe
distortion of fund flows.
After careful consideration, we have decided that the present
circumstances justify our support of the bill with some limiting
amendments.

Specifically, any law should expire in July, 1981,

to provide time for action by states with constitutional problems




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and by July, 1980, for states that can act by legislative means.
We understand that several State legislatures and the District
of Columbia already have taken action this year.

More are

in the process.
In short,

it would be poor public policy to legislate p e r ­

manently to address what we hope will be one of those temporary
aberrations that unfortunately occur from time to time.
Without addressing the reasons for or the merits of usury
ceilings, we all know the effects when market rates rise above
usury limits.
Usury laws do work.
down rates.

The uncontested fact is they hold

They also in some instances dry up the market.

If usury ceilings apply only to certain classes of borrowers,
lenders will tend to shift funds to loans not covered by the
ceiling when market rates exceed the usury ceiling rates.

In

some cases, this could involve a shift from loans to other
types of investments such as T r easury or Federal Agency
obligations.

In other cases it ma y mean making loans outside

a normal trade territory in another State where the usury ceilings,
if any, are higher. In extreme cases in some States where the
ceilings apply broadly to most loans made by specific types
of financial intermediaries, loanable funds in those institutions
may dry up as savers and investors shift their money to market
funds which can pay higher rates because their income is not
inhibited by the lower usury ceilings.
However,

it should be noted that usury ceilings are not

the only State laws that restrict the flow of financial resources




Good morning Mr. Chairman, members of the Subcommittee.
We are here today to discuss legislation that would confer
permanently on State-chartered banks the authority that national
banks have enjoyed for 46 years to lend at a maximum interest
rate of one percent above the discount rate, regardless of State

law.
We support the thrust of this bill, S. 1988, but only as an
emergency measure to meet a disruptive economic situation which
some States themselves cannot deal with at this point.
We would note that at the time the national bank provision
became part of the Banking Act of 1933, the Federal Government
exercised no systematic supervisory or regulatory authority
with regard to State-chartered banks unless such banks had
voluntarily joined the Federal Reserve system.

It was only with

that landmark Banking Act of 1933, which established Federal deposit
insurance for State—chartered as well as National banks, that
Federal supervision and regulation of State no n —member banks
was also begun.
As a general principle,

I am opposed to interfering in matters

traditionally a state concern, such as usury laws.
situation may be an exception,

The present

in a limited sense, because the

current phenomenon of volatile, high market interest rates
colliding with relatively low usury ceilings is causing severe
distortion of fund flows.
After careful consideration, we have decided that the present
circumstances justify our support of the bill with some limiting
amendments.

Specifically,

any law should expire in July, 1981,

to provide time for action by states with constitutional problems




-3and discriminate against particular lending institutions. For
example, New York, which also has a relatively restrictive usury
ceiling, restricts the activities of savings banks in several
important ways:

New York savings banks may not make automobile

and certain other consumer loans;
deposits;

they may not accept business

they are subject to a more restrictive borrowing

limitation and to more restrictive branching rules than other
depository institutions in the State.
PROVISIONS OF S. 1988
S. 1988, as introduced, would permit State-chartered insured
banks, Federal and State-chartered insured savings and loan
associations, small business investment corporations, and Federal
and State-chartered insured credit unions to charge one percent over
the Federal Reserve discount rate (or the rate permitted by State
if that is higher) on all loans, notwithstanding State usury
statutes.

The bill would be permanent, but a State could at any

time after its enactment make the Federal law inapplicable in that
State by adopting legislation to that effect.
The purpose of S. 1988 is to achieve parity between the
loan rates that may be charged by national banks and by Statechartered banks and other financial institutions.
EMERGENCY RELIEF
I would propose that the effective life of S. 1988 parallel
that of Public Law 96-104, the Arkansas interim relief law, which




-4provides for a temporary usury override on business and agricultural
loans of $25,000 or more until July 1, 1981, unless the voters act
sooner on a constitutional proposition or the State legislature
reimposes the ceiling.
The July, 1981, deadline —

as well as a July, 1980, deadline

for States with statutory ceilings —

is also used in the nationwide

counterpart to the Arkansas usury law that is contained in H. R. 4986
the omnibus banking bill now in conference.
Both deadlines occur again in another Senate passed measure,
H. R. 4998, a stopgap extension bill, which also adopts certain
provisions from the bill in conference,

including the nationwide

Arkansas usury law provision as modified to include the separate
expiration dates for States with constitutional and statutory usury ■
ceilings.

H. R. 4998, as passed by the Senate, would also authorize

remote service units for Federal savings and loan associations,
automatic transfer services for commercial and mutual savings
banks, and share drafts for Federal credit unions —
March 31, 1980 .

all through

Withou t this authority, all such services must cease

at the beginning of next year under the terms of a Court of Appeals
ruling last April.
There are two other provisions in the stopgap bill, both similar
to language in the H. R. 4986 omnibus bill.

One would preempt State

usury ceilings for certain loans secured by residential mortgages,
although States would be permitted to reimpose such ceilings within
two years of the bill's enactment.

Unlike H. R. 4986, the version

in the stopgap bill, H. R. 4998, would give the Federal Home Loan
Bank Board authority to make rules and issue interpretations




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-5concerning the usury provision, and H. R. 4998 would give
institutions six months after enactment to make commitments to
lend without regard to any reimposition of usury ceilings by
State law, so long as the loan is made within two years of
enactment.

Finally, H. R. 4998 would require a 45-day study

(instead of 90 days as in H. R. 4986) of difficulties faced by
depository institutions with sizable portfolios of low-yielding
mortgages.
The House counterpart to the Senate amended H. R. 4998 was
introduced last Tuesday and was scheduled for Floor action today.
H. R. 6100 would simply extend authority for remote service units,
automatic transfer services and share drafts through March 31, 1980.
I understand that the motion today under suspension will be to repass
H. R. 4998 with the text of H. R. 6100 substituted for the Senate
language.
The July, 1980, and July, 1981, usury preemption dates have
been twice passed by the full Senate.

It would seem appropriate

in considering S. 1988 to follow precedent.

Further, by the very

act of incorporating an expiration date for the usury override
authority, we would make it clear that the Federal intention in
S. 1988 is to gain time for States to address the problems on
their own.

Perhaps this will force States to reconsider usury

ceilings for whatever decision States wish to make.
It is true that a usury ceiling has the same effect whether it
is imposed constitutionally or statutorily.




It is also true that

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States with constitutional ceilings cannot change them without going
through the lengthy, deliberate process that includes a vote
by the people.

States with constitutional ceilings do not

have the option, for example, of calling a special session of
the legislature to address the usury question.

So it would seem

fair to provide states with constitutional ceilings with an
extra year in which to address their problem.
A bill revised as we have suggested would focus its relief pri­
marily on one state in severe need.
—

Pub. L. 96-104 —

The new Arkansas usury law

does offer relief with regard to business and

agricultural loans of $25,000 or more and H. R. 4986 and H. R. 4998
would make this nationwide, but the situation in Arkansas for other
important loans —

including mortgage and consumer —

is nothing

short of critical.
I have asked Arkansas State Bank Commissioner Beverly J.
Lambert, Jr., to keep us provided with up-to-date information
on the lending situation in Arkansas.
With the discount rate currently at 12 percent, the effect
of Federal law is that, except for loans covered by Pub. L. 96-104,
National banks can lend at 13 percent, but State banks

are held

to the 10 percent constitutional ceiling.
Mr. Lambert tells me that lending by State-chartered banks
has come almost to a standstill in Arkansas.

He says that such

banks are making virtu a l l y no mor t g a g e loans and very few con­
sumer loans or small loans to the people who really need it most.




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Mr. Lambert says that state banks have put much of their money
into participations in large corporate loans with national banks.
National banks, of course, were able to charge above the usury ceiling
even before Pub. L. 96-104 provided interim relief for business
and agricultural loans of $25,000 or more.
Mr. Lambert says that a number of the 192 State-chartered
banks in the State may convert to national charter next year if
there is no remedy.
I also asked our Regional Director who supervises Arkansas
banks to spot-check three different areas in Arkansas to det e r ­
mine what loan rates were being charged by competing National
and State banks.
He reported that business and agricultural loans of
$25,000 or more, which are exempted by Pub. L. 96-104 from the
State usury ceiling, are being made generally in the 15 percent
interest range by both National and State-chartered banks in
all three areas.

Some State banks also were making other com­

mercial loans at 10 percent in the three areas.

National banks

were making commercial and agricultural loans of less than $25,000
for 13 percent in all three areas.
Personal loans in the three areas were being made at the
respective limits — — 13 percent by National banks and 10 percent
by State banks.




Real estate loans were not being made in any of the three
areas by State banks.

National banks were extending real

estate credit in only two of the three areas and charging
13 percent.
Arkansas,

in the spirit of PL 96-104, already has set about

addressing the usury ceiling question on its own.

The Arkansas

legislature, which was not scheduled to meet again until January,
1981, did not adjourn this year and will continue the general
session early in January to consider the drafting of a proposed
usury amendment to the Arkansas Constitution.

Legislators will

consider four proposals to (1) remove the usury ceiling completely,
(2) set the ceiling at five points over the discount rate,

(3) set

the ceiling three points over the discount rate, or (4) authorize
the State Legislature to set the usury ceiling.

Any amendment

approved by the State legislature would have to be submitted to a
referendum.
Another proposed amendment dealing with the usury issue alre ady
has been drafted by an Arkansas constitutional convention which
met last summer.

The convention is scheduled to review the draft

and put it into a final version in June.

The convention's proposal,

which is scheduled to be submitted to a voter referendum in the
November, 1980 , election would give voters the choice between keeping
the 10 percent limit or approving a ceiling that would float five
points above the discount rate.




-9QTHER PROPOSED AMENDMENTS
Finally, I would propose three technical amendments to S. 1988.
In the interest of equity, we recommend that the Committee modify
S. 1988 to include insured foreign bank branches.

And we recom­

mend these other technical changes:
Section 101 proposes a new Section 26 to the Federal Deposit
Insurance Act.

Since our Act already contains a Section 26, the new

section should be 27.
Section 202 of S. 1988 would add a new Subsection 18(2) to the Act
The proper sequence would be Section 18(m).
FDIC REGIONAL SURVEY
In order to obtain up-to-date information on the situation
around the country,

I had my staff conduct a telephone survey

of our 14 Regional Offices last week.

The following informa­

tion was obtained from our Regional Directors.

Listed by Region

are those States which impose usury rates of less than 13 percent
on one or more significant categories of loans. Comments contain an
indication of the type of loan subject to the more stringent usury
limit, but since State laws vary so with respect to definition of
loan type and frequently include numerous exceptions, the comments
are somewhat general.
The most severe problem appears to exist in Arkansas and
is well publicized.

Twenty-two other States have a restric­

tive usury rate on one or more types of loans but, in several
of these States, there do exist enough exceptions or opportunities




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with respect to other types of loans to give State banks some
flexibility by structuring loans properly.

For instance,

if

the single payment rate is overly restrictive, the bank might
be able to offer an installment loan.
Following are capsule summaries of the situation in the
23 States:
NOTE:

REM =

Region
Memphis

Real Estate Mortgages
State

M

=

Thousands

Comments

Arkansas

10% m a x imum on all loans.
Some
relief recently obtained on busi­
ness and agricultural loans over
$25,000

Mississippi

Some smaller consumer loans limited
to 10%.

Minnesota
Montana

Several rates more limited than 13
Consumer loans generally limited
to 12%

South Dakota

Consumer loans generally limited
to 12%

North Dakota

Consumer loans generally limited
to 12%

N e w York

REM (single family) limited to
10 1/4% + 1/4 additional each 3
months

N e w Jersey

REM (single family) limited to
10 1/ 2%

Omaha

Nebraska
Iowa

Loans generally limited to 12 1/2%
Has floating rate keyed to U.S.
Treasury securities - currently
at 12 1/4%

Richmond

South Carolina
North Carolina

Loans to farmers limited to 9 1/2%
Consumer loans under 25M limited
to 12%

Minneapolis

New York




Region
San Francisco

Comments

State

Consumer loans (including mortgages)
over 5/000 - 12%
Owner occupied purchase money
mortgages - 12%
Consumer loans for personal p r o p ­
erty (includes mortgages) and
commercial loans under 50M - 12%

Arizona
Oregon
Washington

Atlanta

No States with usury limit problems
Vermont

Boston

12% on personal and mortgages National banks thought to be
holding at 12% also

Chicago

No States with usury limit problems

Columbus

Ohio
West Virginia

8% except for mortgages, loans
over 1 0 0 M , and Corporations.
Other exceptions also exist
11.5% on personal loans

Dallas

New Mexico
Texas

10% secured - 12% unsecured
10% to individuals (personal
and business) - 12% on REM's

Kansas City

Missour i

Madison

Wisconsin

Based on U.S. Treasury rate currently 11.4%; goes to
12.8% in 1980
12% basic ceiling rate

Philadelphia

Maryland

12% rate on single payment
loans of over 3,500

As the above table shows, it is difficult to determine the
precise impact of usury ceilings on the competitive position of
State banks.

One important reason for this is that we cannot know

exactly how many National banks are able to use their rate-ceiling
edge to advantage and to make loans which are uneconomical for
State banks.

In addition,

interest rate-ceilings affect indivi­

dual State banks differently, depending on the demand for




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particular kinds of loans and the availability of alternative
methods by which State banks can meet these credit needs.
CONCLUSION
The FDIC regards S. 1988 as a needed form of relief during a
time when economic conditions are placing many financial institu­
tions, particularly the smaller ones,
drying up funds for borrowers.
usury override authority

in a cost squeeze and are

We believe, however, that the

should be temporary giving States

time to respond.




Thank you for this opportunity to testify.