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Remarks by
HUGH D. GALUSHA, JR.
President
Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis

at the

1968 MARUC* Convention

Bismarck, North Dakota

June 21, 1968

Midwest Association of Railroad and Utilities
Commissioners -- Bruce Hagen, Chairman.

It requires a certain temerity plus a general ignorance of the
processes of utility regulation for a representative of the Federal Reserve
to appear on your program.

My guess is that if the gyrations of monetary

policy have not complicated in a direct way your lives as regulators the
last three years, they certainly have those of your constituency in the
utility industries, and therefore indirectly yours.

In a time when the

trend of reliance on debt financing by public utilities has once again
turned up, we have been making it increasingly difficult for them to predict
rates and availability of credit.

I need not remind you of the extraordinary

variations in both of these money market variables in this period.
The Wall Street Journal, I think it was, had an article this
spring on the shift in backgrounds of chief executive officers from o p e r a ­
tions or law to the financial side.

And no wonder.

The employment of money,

either the corporation's own or other people's, is a most important factor
in the success or failure of the contemporary enterprise.

A knowledge of

interest rate behavior, the probabilities of adequate credit sources, and
the carrying forward of the broadest possible list of financial options, are
the hallmarks of a successful corporate manager.
this been true in the utility industry.

Especially, I suspect, has

Caught between relatively inflexible

customer rates; the imperatives of an expanding U.S. economy which require
almost continuous plant expansion with long leads and lags of planning,
construction and cost recapture; and a monetary environment that can change
dramatically within hours on occasion; the utility's financial officer has
had one of the most challenging and frustrating jobs in American industry.




And there is no reason to expect it to become easier.

It is

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entirely conceivable that interest rates will fluctuate, not only more
frequently, but more widely in the future than they have over the long-term
past.

It is also quite possible that firms will find themselves periodically

facing severe shortages of institutional funds, as they did in 1966 and
have come close to doing in 1968.
as this requires justification.

A statement with as unhappy implications
There are two reasons for believing that

this m a y be so.
The first of these reasons has to do with our emerged role as
banker to the world with enormous foreign holdings of liquid dollar assets
and a central position in world trade.

Our mone t a r y posture is not only

affected by the political and economic climates of other countries, but is
a major influence on them as well.

This requires that we conduct our affairs

with one eye on developments around the world which impinge upon our economy
and the strength of the dollar; while the other eye must be appraising the
potential effects shifts in our monetary and fiscal policies ma y have on
other countries.
An example of each might be useful to make this point credible.
Foreign events which have affected us in significant ways in the last 24
months include the deterioration of the British economy; Vietnam; student
and labor unrest in France.

The list could be continued.

All the resources

of the international monetary system have been tested, and then some, in
the last two years.

Devaluation of the pound; closing of the gold pool;

the freezing of mone t a r y gold stocks; periodic pressures against various
currencies, including our own, with the franc the latest to join the club.
All of these have required an appropriate reflection in U.S. mone t a r y policy.
At the same time, domestic pressures exerted by tightening U.S.
mone t a r y policy have forced the major U.S. banks to look to the Euro-dollar




- 3 market, and which in turn has resulted in tremendous flows of short-term
credit back to the U.S.

The Vol u n t a r y Foreign Credit Restraint program,

which has inhibited the export of U.S. capital by U.S. corporations to
foreign countries for the construction and operation of overseas subsidiaries,
has forced these same corporations to turn to foreign capital markets.

When

m a jor U.S. banking industrial corporations enter the capital or m o n e y markets
in any other country of the world, not excluding even the highly developed
countries of western Europe, it produces demands and pressures against these
markets of major dimensions.

Inevitably nationalist political pressures

appear to resist what one Frenchman has referred to as the American challenge.
And of course, the continued deficit in our balance of payments
has contributed to inflationary pressures abroad.

It is not an attitude

of do-good or the Golden Rule that causes us to be concerned about our
neighbors in the world, but a relatively newly developed attitude of e n ­
lightened self-interest.

The realization that no m o dern nation can operate

its fiscal and m o netary policies in a vacuum has come as hard to the countries
of western Europe as it has to the U.S.

But come it has.

One of the most

encouraging developments of the last few years has been the appearance of
an extraordinary degree of cooperation among central banks of the western
world.

Instead of pursuing narrowly defined national goals, these banks,

including our own central bank, the Federal Reserve, have shown an e x t r a ­
ordinary degree of cooperation in working out mutual responses to inter­
national m o n etary pressures.

While in the short run some of these responses

m a y appear against a country's national interest, the long-run payoff is no
longer questioned.
Stability of exchange rates and preservation of the international
m o n e t a r y system are inextricably bound up in the preservation of the




- 4 political systems in the separate countries.

This has carried with it a

certain loss of freedom on the part of each nation to be mischievous; or
to put it more bluntly, perhaps to make a fool of itself.

Countries like

the United States that consistently run a deficit in their balance of
payments can expect criticism from their peers and other countries, and if
steps are not taken aggressively to attempt to redress the criticized
situation, the offending country can expect disciplinary action which can
be manifested in m a n y unpleasant ways.

This places a burden on policy makers,

whether they be the determiners of fiscal policy or those in the Federal
Reserve responsible for mo n e t a r y policy.
Turning to the domestic side, this country is committed to goals
of fu l l - e m p l o y m e n t , stable prices and a substantial rate of economic growth.
Again, as our society is organized, there are two ways of working towards
these goals on the national level.

One is through fiscal policy, which

simply defined relates to the collection and spending of governmental revenues.
The second is through monet a r y policy, which is the province of the Federal
Reserve.

The point has been made over and over again that these two policy

streams must be coordinated if we are to have consistency in our progress
towards attainment of these goals.
I ’ll not belabor this point because I'm sure it is accepted as
an article of faith.

Unfortunately, acceptance as an article of faith does

not mean observance.

If the recent past is any guide, fiscal policy is not

going to be as flexible and responsive as our complex and fast-moving society
requires.

If this is so, and I desperately hope I am proven wrong, primary

reliance will continue on monetary policy as a stabilization technique.

It

appears incontestable, for example, that government spending is going to
fluctuate greatly over the coming years.




If unrest continues, and there is

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no reason to believe that it w o n ’
t, sharp changes in government spending
will be necessary.

Riots at home, like brush fire wars abroad, require

that m o n e y be spent quickly in amounts geared to the requirements of what
often turn out to be open-ended c o m m i t m e n t s .

This would argue, then, that

if government spending fluctuates and especially if it spurts sharply upward
from time to time from a rising trend and tax rates are not responsive, then
m o netary policy will have to be flexible; which is another way of saying
interest rates will have to fluctuate a great deal, caused in substantial
measure by conscious and deliberate intervention in the money markets by the
Federal Reserve.
At the risk of seeming immodest, I will say I have learned something
in the last three years.

It has been proven, I think, that too much should

not be expected of the Federal Reserve System.

It cannot be counted on

single-handed to restrain inflationary pressures, or to forestall crises of
confidence in the dollar.
Mo n e t a r y policy is applied in a general way in the United States;
that is to say, it cannot be deliberately aimed at special sectors of our
economy.

M o n e t a r y policy is largely applied by the nongovernmental sector

through the countless decisions by the people who have m o n e y to lend and
people who want to borrow, with each setting their own priorities.
priorities are determined with an eye to customer relations,

These

interest rates,

profit expectations, supplemental considerations such as participations, etc.
The list could be continued, but no matter how long it got, national economic
priorities would not appear.

As a believer in letting the market place

determine allocations of credit as much as possible, I still have to admit
that this produces injustices during periods of acute credit stringency
because it does not apply equally to all sectors.




The housing industry in

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1966 was an obvious example of a single sector bearing a disproportionate
share of the burden of m o n e t a r y policy.

M o n e y simply was not available for

this industry at any price, which brings me to a point of controversy perhaps
with some of you.

M y guess is that rate is no longer as important as we

once thought it was.

Most borrowers are more concerned with availability,

assuming of course that they pay no greater rate than their competitors are
required to pay.

There are obvious economic ceilings of interest rates in

terms of the ultimate business decision to go ahead or to cancel an expansion
plan, but my guess is that these limits are muc h higher than have been tradi­
tionally thought.

I am not sure that there exist m a n y major psychological

limits to interest rates.

Even the home buyer who was a hold-out for so

long at a 6 percent rate has surrendered.

To put it another way, if a

businessman or a consumer needs a capital good and must finance its purchase,
rate considerations are less important than availability.
It is interesting that in m a n y areas, including North Dakota, the
real limit to responsiveness of interest rates to market pressures on the
demand side m a y be the usury laws.

Born because of the ingrained prejudices

of human animal against m o n e y lenders and sustained by the populist tradition,
usury laws have lost mu c h of their relevance.

As m o n e y has moved to a

position of commodity, it must be bought and sold freely if it is to be
responsive to public demand and distributed equitably around the economy.
And here is where vie run into an obstacle on the supply side.

Savers are

responsive to rates, and here is where another of our inequities in the
uneven application of m o n e t a r y policy emerged.

Unless thrift institutions,

whether they be banks or savings and loans, are able to compete freely in
buying m o n e y which is their stock in trade, the investor or saver takes
his m o n e y to the market place and buys the investment paying the higher rate.




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This phenomenon, known as disintermediation, has been a painful experience
for these thrift institutions forced to stand by and watch savers either
slow down their rate of saving in their institutions, or reduce their
accounts in real terms to buy securities paying rates substantially above
those offered by the thrift institution.

Congress, in an attempt to equalize

the competitiveness of thrift institutions among themselves, that is to say,
banks vs. savings and lo a n s , passed a bill in September of 1966 authorizing
regulatory agencies to set limits.

Unfortunately while this m a y give a

certain measure of insulation to savings and loans from commercial bank
competition, it did not insulate the other group from market group competition,
and this again has shifted the rate reaction to mone t a r y pressure from these
institutions to the m o n e y markets themselves; hence, the very sharp run-up
in rates paid by utilities among other borrowers for their m o n e y in recent
months.

But m y point is that there is no hope for it.

The continued failure

of this country to find a way to build flexibility and responsiveness in
fiscal policy means the primary responsibility will continue on m o netary
policy.
economy.

It is simply not designed to bring about massive changes in the U.S.
When it is so used, it is always going to produce great fluctuations

and, as perhaps more i m p o r t a n t l y , changes in the availability of credit
capacity.

What this means for regulators of public utility industries, I

am not quite sure.

M y guess is, though, a premium will be placed upon your

flexibility and responsiveness to meet fluctuations in the financing capa­
bilities of your constituency.