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I'OR RELEASE ON DEI.IVERY
Tuesday, September 25, 1973
ti.U., P.D.T. (12 Noon, E.D.T.)




MONEY PAYMENTS IN PERSPECTIVE

Remarks of
GEORGE W. MITCHELL
Vice Chairman
Board of Governors
of the
Federal Reserve System

at the
First Annual Conference
of the
Charge Account Bankers Division
of the
American Bankers Association

Los Angeles, California
September 25, 1973

MONEY PAYMENTS IN PERSPECTIVE
When one is waist deep in the riffles of his favorite
trout stream, he has little occasion to speculate on where the waters
are coming from and where they are going.

Luring a fish with his fly,

retaining his footing and retrieving his catch absorb all of his
energy and attention.
When I am asked to make a perspective review of recent
developments in the payments mechanism, I find myself in a payments
trout stream handicapped by a very immediate interest and concern with
the consequences of current payments developments on banking relation­
ships and the financial environment.

These consequences are not

unimportant; they involve such issues as (1) the relationship of banks
to other depository institutions in payments services; (2) the problems
for effective monetary control that can arise from conferring payments
powers on thrift institutions; and (3) possible anticompetitive
implications of a payments technology which may entail neither public
participation nor public regulation.

At the moment these problems and

issues are uppermost in my thinking.
In my perception, then, it is not surprising that the high­
light of the past year and the current scene has been the emergence
in Massachusetts and New Hampshire of the interest-bearing NOW account,
evidencing both a desire on the part of mutual savings banks in those
States to participate in the payments mechanism— and a way of doing so
that is appealing to customers.

At the same time, the savings and

loan industry has been showing an intense interest in electronic




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payroll crediting in two operating areas— California and Atlanta.
This

Fall the Congress will probably begin consideration of the Hunt

Commission recommendations on the roles and powers of depository
institutions.

Thus, the "thrifts" today evidence a keen desire to be

participants to at least some degree in the money transfer system in
order to broaden their competitive base or, at a minimum, to retain
their present access to depository customers.
All of these developments may seem at least once removed
from your interests and problems but, I think, they have several
implications for charge account bankers.

The most obvious is that

another "outside" competitive force may be in process of developing.
It would use as its transactions base savings accounts in mutual savings
banks, savings and loan associations and professionally managed credit
unions.

Commercial banks would presumably be offering a similar service.

Such competition is virtually nonexistent today, but it can grow
rapidly by taking advantage of the technological achievements in the
banking industry to get off to a flying start.

Given a Congressional

endorsement to the general tenor of the Hunt Commission recommendations,
the "thrifts" have a large and loyal clientele to which they could
offer various kinds of payments services.
The second implication for your industry is the feature of
greatest appeal (and controversy) in the NOW account— the offering of
interest on balances in an account from which, as well as to which,
transfers can be made.




Explicit interest in the form of credits,

-3instead of implicit interest in the form of transfer privileges, will
raise, in my opinion, the whole issue of pricing money transfer services
not just in the two States, but generally.
Traditionally, checking account services have been priced
with a deposit balance roughly set or fine-tuned, depending on the
customer and the institution.

However well suited to the past this

practice may have been, a casual or indifferent attitude toward pricing
transfers from accounts paying competitive interest rates would be
unrealistic.

Unless such services can be produced so cheaply they can

be regarded as "throw-aways", their pricing will need to be stated
specifically.

If household accounts are to yield a competitive interest

return, many account owners will want to know how much a debit will
cost them or how it will impact on their interest accruals.
I believe the Massachusetts-New Hampshire experiment raises
a vital issue for your industry because it has now become an adjunct to
the payments system and is offering a service whose cost (apart from
the explicit credit charge) is hidden from the customer's view because
it is subsumed in the price of the commodity or service which he
purchases.

To be sure, "convenience credit" was not your invention

but was taken over as a well-established retail practice; however, as
your business extends to more consumer markets and as the credit card
displaces more and more cash transactions, the hidden charge becomes
more and more incongruous with consumer interests.

It presses con­

venience services and costs upon users without giving them a clear-cut




-4opportunity to evaluate that service by its price and to adjust their
utilization accordingly.

In effect, it can discriminate against trans­

actions on a cash basis.
Of course, paying by cash in the form of currency and coin
involves hidden costs too, which are not known either by consumers or
vendors.

They are, in fact, so widely dispersed in the form of

protection, insurance and handling expenditures by vendors, buyers,
banks, and governments that no one, so far as I am aware, has been able
to add up their total resource utilization.
Another pricing anomaly in the payments field is the so-called
"free" checking account.

To be sure, banks offering such services can

provide for interest charges on their customers in a variety of ways,
but these charges may bear little relation to the total costs involved.
We know something about the costs of check payment within and without
the banking system, including such cost factors as merchants' experience
with returned checks.

However, how the burden of check costs is split

up between the bank on which the checks are written, the banks in which
they are deposited and the intermediate institutions, including the
Federal Reserve, which handles them in the collection process, is
ordinarily a case-by-case study.
These illustrations of aberrations in pricing policy for
alternate means of payment go a long way to explain the pricing
practices adopted by your industry.

But that does not mean that such

pricing philosophy is optimal, either now or for the long pull.




What

-5is needed in your industry, I believe, is a careful evaluation of events
in train that are leading toward explicit pricing of transfer services.
This issue would become particularly acute if your charge card also
serves as a cash card.

When will that happen?

Essentially, it depends

on the evolution of the technical and economic bases for handling
immediate and deferred payments, and that issue in turn depends on
transaction volumes, communication networks and public and private
involvement in the payments mechanism.
1 doubt there is much I can add to your knowledge of recent
Federal Reserve activities in the payments system evolution.

We have

attempted to keep the industry pretty well abreast of our thinking and
actions.

We are still in the process of completing the installation

of our new high-speed wire network linking all 43 operating Federal
Reserve offices, including new Federal Reserve Clearing Offices.
now 18 offices are hooked into this network.

As of

Early in 1974 another 19

offices will be added and within a year our expectations are that all
Federal Reserve offices including two or three that may be opened in
1974 will be included.
The wire links between Federal Reserve offices and the
"Street"--the commercial banks with which we expect to generate or
receive wire transfers in volumes that justify such links— are being
put in place as rapidly as mutually satisfactory arrangements for inter­
face can be worked out.

While a relatively small number of commercial

banks have been connected with the system up to now, these banks have




-6the capability of providing a very large volume of daily activity.

We

find that wire transfers through Federal Reserve facilities are rising
at a 26 per cent annual rate.
While the volume of work coming into the automated clearing
houses in California and Atlanta is less than many expected, the interest
in facilities of this type is growing and several ACH arrangements are
scheduled to go into effect in the next few months.
A newer development— the point of sale terminal--stimulated
by the Atlanta project and experiments in Columbus, Ohio, and Syosset,
New York, is attracting considerable interest among commercial banks
and within the Federal Reserve.

The emergence of POS terminals as an

operating reality has a tremendously important bearing on your future.
However, rather than attempt to delineate our interest or
project our role in point of sale terminal operations, I think it would
be more useful to discuss the problem generally as an issue of inter­
facing public and private interests in future payments arrangements.
In doing so, I hope not to be considered to be denigrating or in any
way discounting the very considerable contribution bank credit card
sponsors have made in furthering public acceptance of an interest in
the practical improvement of the payments mechanism.

I doubt anyone

outside your ranks is more aware than I of the operational and acceptance
difficulties you have faced and surmounted.

But 1 see other challenges

ahead, including the problem of pricing to which 1 have already alluded,
and especially the need to assure that the public interest will be




-7adequately represented as the payments system undergoes, as it surely
will, general adaptation to electronic technology.
As I interpret Congressional authorizations and relevant pro­
visions of the Uniform Commercial Code, commercial bank practices,
Federal Reserve participation in clearing activities and policies, and
Department of Justice antitrust posture, present payments practices
have been generally consistent with the public interest.

Competition

governs the services of individual banks, and payments transfer develop­
ments are unlikely which will present problems with respect to transfers
from one demand deposit account to another within the same institution.
It is practicable for any customer who seeks improved or different
service to move his account to another bank.

However, for payments

which involve two banks, one for the payor and another for the payee,
the system for clearing becomes more structured— and progressively so
as the number of combinations of banks increases and eventuates in
various kinds of cooperative arrangements.

Absent a public voice or

participation, these arrangements can become excessively concerned
with corporate interests.
The Federal Reserve has long provided a national clearing
system linking all banks— members directly and nonmembers indirectly.
This system has not been exclusive--the nonpar system, for example,
was, and what is left of it still is, outside of Federal Reserve clear­
ings.

Correspondents' balances can function as clearing media also

and do so largely outside of the Federal Reserve.




The volumes of such

-8clearings has, in general, been roughly in proportion to the quality
of service rendered by the Federal Reserve,

Large volumes of payments

go through city clearing houses in which the Federal Reserve does not
ordinarily participate unless it has an office in the clearing city.
All of these arrangements are familiar to you and I only
recite them to indicate there is no unequivocal guideline or precedent
out of the past which establishes how the public's interest will be
protected as the electronic payments system takes over.
Since it appears to me, at this point, that credit cards will
probably become cash cards and in that case will, and should, be used
to effect money payments directly, I am concerned as to the way in
which this money function should be regulated or policed or performed
as a joint venture with a public agency so as to assure maximum pro­
tection to the public interest.
It is not clear to me that competition can be counted on to
play much of a disciplining role when transfer arrangements involve
associations of banks.

Nor does there seem to be a significant pre­

cedent for using public-utility type regulation of money transfers.
Therefore, my tentative preference is for continuation or extension
of the present degree of Federal Reserve participation in check clearing
into the field of electronic funds transfer.
The difficulty at hand as visualized by some who would like
a choice of clearing arrangements is whether paperless technology can
make competing clearing systems economically feasible.




In some degree

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this is an engineering or management problem; in some degree an issue
for public policy.

It most certainly is a confrontation you cannot

avoid as your activities expand, if your cards, instead of the check,
become a general vehicle for transferring funds from one account to
another.




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