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i.;INUT2i> or MEETING or ttUS FKD&UL ADVliiOHY COUNCIL May 19, 1919, A regular statutory meeting of the Federal Advisory Council was hold in the Federal Reserve Board room, /ashington, DC*, Monday, May 19th, 1919, at 11 A U* Present: Messrs* Janes B. Forgan, President, L L Rue, Vice-President, D. G* Wing, A B liepburn, if 3 Rowe, J 0 Brown, C A Lyerly, E F Swinney, E P film ot, A L M ills, and Merritt H. Grin, Secretary. Absent: Messrs, F. o. Watts and C, T« J iffray* Mr. Jaues B. Forgan, President, called the meeting to order at 11 A L* He stated that the Governor and other members of the Federal Reserve Bpard would come in at 11:15, when Governor Harding would speak upon the topice already submitted by the beard, in his le tte r of April 25, 1919, and perhaps present additional topics for the Council's consideration* On motion the minutes of the Counail meetings held February 17th and 13th and of the Sxeoutive Conuaittee held February 18th, 1919, copies of which had been sent to inembers by the secretary, were approved* The report of a special meeting of the Executive Committee held in Sashington at the instance of the Federal Reserve Board, Malrch 20th, 1919, to confer with the Governors of the Federal Reserve Banks, copiee of which had been sent to Council members by the secretary, was on lotion accepted and file d . Mr. For'an also reported that the secretary had sent Council members a stenographic copy of the proceedings of the Conference referred to and a copy of the Comment s and Rulxngs of the federal Reserve Board with respect to recommendations isfride by the Sov«mors at said conference^. Mr. Lyerly suggested thatthe ciiair ask the federal Reserve Board i f they recotmaetlded to Congress any amendments to the Federal Reserve Act* On w tion the President was requested to take the matter yp with the Governor of t e Federal Reserve Board* The President laid before the Council Governor* Harding's le tte r of April 25, 191J, submitting certain topics to the Council for consideration at th is meeting, alao certain topics suggested by Mr. A. L. k i l l s . Copies hereto attached and made a part of thaM minutes* The Governor and meisbers of the Federal Reoerve Board having arrived the Council adjourned for joint session* Secretary, FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD WASHINGTON O f fic e of the Governor April 25, 1939- Dear Mr. Forgan:In reply to your request that the Board send you a l i s t of topics which i t would lik e to have discussed at the next meeting of the Federal Advisory Council, i t is suggested that the Council give consideration to the following: I# Investment power of the United States (a) Demands for capital at home and abroad. (b) Division of investment power between home and foreign needs. II. Maintenance of Exports. (a) Intensity and duration of foreign demand. (b) Best method of financing exports. (c ) What would constitute satisfactory security for foreign credits? III. Investment Trusts. IV. Foreign Exchange situ ation . ( a ; To what extent does depreciation tend to reduce buying power abroad? (b) Adjustment of trade to new basis of supply and demand on altered level of quotations. V. War Finance Corporation. (a ) How can i t best cooperate with commercial banks in extending credit based on export transactions? Use of acceptances. (a) Can trade acceptances payable at a member bank be remitted for upon collection without chargeJ (b) Domestic Acceptances - Definition of the words "re a d ily marketable staples" which appear in that paragraph of Section 3.3 of the Act read ing, as follow s: "o r which are secured at the time of acceptance by a warehouse receipt or other such document conveying or securing t i t l e covering readily market able staples V II. Limitation of to ta l volume of outstanding ac ceptances of foreign banking corporations organized under the provisions of Section 25 of the Federal Reserve Act to a specified m ultiple of the foreign banking corporations c a p ita l• NOTEt The practice of the Board has been to authorize new foreign banking corporations to accept up to six times their capital stock, but as th is lim it has been reached the proportion has been increased so that in one instance# at le a s t , a foreign banking corporation was authorized to accept up to twelve times i t s capital stock* A recommendation as to a fin a l lim itation is requested* Very tru ly yours* W. P. 0 . Harding, .Governor. B» Forgan, President, Federal Advisory Council, Chicago, 111. Topics Suggested by Mr. A* I** Mills ]4 Have 5$ redemption fund transferred to Federal Reserve Bank of d istrict so national bank notes may be redeemed without sending to Washington. 2, Altogether too many s ta tis tic s are required of member banks* The work en tailed together with the Liberty Loan work make it almost impossible to keep up the bank work; for instance, the la st two or three years there have been six statement ca lls a year. Five are plenty. The request for interest accrued but not collected, e tc. increases a bank's misery without adding to the security o-f the depositors. 3, Have Branches own their own building. 4. Have member banks examined by Federal Reserve Bank at expense of Federal Reserve Bank. 5. Permit to join the Federal Reserve System state banks in c itie s of 50,000 pop ulation or over and having $300,000 capital and who were doing business prior to Nov. 2 , 3 9 3 4 , provided such banks set aside 30$ of their net earnings in surp3fus until their capital and surplus equal $2 0 0 , 0 0 0 . P. The Federal Reserve Bank and it s branches should maintain a credit bureau for the benefit of the member banks and to which they can apply for information concerning commercial paper and double borrowings. 7. Have branch banks supply silv er and fractional coin to member banks without cost. Should be free from sub-treasury. 8. Put Representative in the f ie ld to explain thoroughly to state banks the ad vantages of the Federal Reserve Bank System. 9. Is it desirable in each Federal Reserve D istrict to appoint an Alternate or Proxy who may represent the D istrict Member at meetings of the Federal Advisory Council? 10. As the Recommendation of the Council at it s la st meeting reading as follows: "The Council recommends that the Federal Reserve Board as a matter of addition al service to member banks request the Federal Reserve banks to receive on deposit for immediate credit from member banks national bank notes unfit for circulation” , has been opposed by the governors of the Federal Reserve banks and has not been acted on by the Federal Reserve Board, should the recommenda tion be further urged by the Council. jo in t a & ijj^ N o r THE mSRAi. ADVISORY COUN;ii, AND T.Ji jfcU&HAL Ri>~, -tV* BOARD. ilny l'» , 1519. As arranged a joint session with the Federal Reserve Boarfl waa h«ld at 11:15 A M. Present— The following K*eaib«rfc of the STederai Reserve Board: Governor i( Is 0 Hording, Uessrs. A C liilie r , J 5 i.liam a, C S Brualin, and J A Broiorick, Secretary; and tne following merabere of the j-'aderafc Adv-'iery Cfoisiexl: Jfe ident, JaweB 3 Forgan, Vice-President, L « Rue, D ’ ‘ing, A B Hepburn, 3 3 --SWo, JOBrown, C A Lyerly, & f Swinnoy, & P tfilmot, A L Mill;;, ind Merritt H Grin, Secretary* Mr. Fortran called the meeting to order and aeked Governor Harding to address the meeting* Governor Harding talked o« raost of the topics in a general way, explain ing tho Board’ s attitude in regard io thera. He also referred to the condition of the Dallas Federal Reserve Bank, which having exhausted it s reserve by subscribing for U S Treasury C ertifica tes of Indebtedness had been rediocount.nit heavily tfith other Federal Reserve brinks and in thia connection suggested that the Council make a recommendation on the general subject of what should be dona when a Federal Reserve baak’ o reserve is practically exha ated or is ajTt^ined by borrowing fror other Federal Reaerve Banks. After a general discussion of sonie length the Council voted to adjourn^, until 2:30 P M. t-.ry. 3* Tho Council ztot xt 3:30 F tt* Froaent: President, Jajcoea B. Forgan, Vice-President, I* L Ruaf 0 0 -tfinS, A B Hepburn, / 5 Rove, J 0 Bro-j«, C A Lyerly, S F Swinney, - ^ /il~ot, A L « u l i i , and 4 erritt H &rim# liccrotary* Oovornor iiarding m s also present* Before leaving he aug,seated ae & additional topic for t h e Council'# oonaid oration the following haiaoval of tha Embargo of Gold exports* ' ‘•to'* 5 \ Q* ta. | . . . ,• {= The Council then took up the topics submitted by Governor riarding ina for-aulated recoiatjendations on them. The topics aug-oated by IJ*. iiilla *9re alao considered and formal recoauaendations perpared on such of thorn as rafc thought advisable* D ring the afternoon the i-ion. Cbarter Glass, Secretary of the treasury, csuaa in with Governor Harding to m o t the Council neiabors in an in for -al dinner. i>osretary Glass le f t the ajeeting* Before Governor iiardxng le f t i*r* Forgan asked him i f the Federal Reserve Board had reeouiaandad any aotmdaenia to the Federal Keaarve Act to tha preaent eeasion of Congress* Governor iriarding replied that tho Board haa not mde any such x*ecomt;«ndations to Congress but that he had in mind a change in the law providing for eleven directors four of whom to be elass G Birectors appointed by the Federal Reserve Board, and tho Governors to be elected by the Boards to be also e x -o ffis io rcazabara of the Boards. ;ie aaked tne Council to consider th is topic and uoke a recom-ndation thereon* The Co uncil then res ^ued it a work* The Go ^ico.1 ajuin postponed consideration u n til the next jaaeting of the subject considered at previous seating, of basing the reserves of meubor banks on th® character of the depocita neld rather than on preaent c la s s ific a tio n by reserve ind central rose:.iti«s# The attached printed copy of reco;-u«ndation having &ten fyr&LLXy approved by the Council wore ordered submitted to the Federal Rtaervv uoard. v . vt five tfixrty o*clock m-b&r* of tne fed eral Reoerve Beat A having arrived f 0r tha joint session tha sweating adjourned# Si-CVvKVAKY • The Council** reco mandat ion a are as follow s; •* a!...... < oth •• **«u*. ‘ :l '• -? -i D iw *■ tgf ooiltfoi t- rJSjjf great RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE FEDERAL ADVISORY COUNCIL T O THE FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD M ay 19, 1919. T O P IC N O . 1. — Investment power of the United States. (a) Demands for capital at home and abroad. (b) Division of investment power between home and foreign needs. Recommendation : The investment power of the United States depends primarily upon the amount of the country’s savings and the portion of such savings available for new investment, of both of which it is difficult to secure a reliable estimate. Since we entered the war the demand for capital at home for municipal and corporation needs has been restricted by government mandates and surplus savings have been more than absorbed by government issues, for war purposes, including large loans to our Allies. Not only have current savings been thus absorbed but future accumulations have been largely drawn upon. T h e ordinary requirements of municipalities and corporations relieved from government restrictions will doubt less, from now on, be largely increased, while the demands of the Federal government, although likely to continue an important factor for some years to come, should gradually be diminished. T h e demands for capital at home will and should receive our first attention. T h e railroad requirements, especially when they are returned to their owners by the government, will have to be met. Railroad securities will have to be protected and the market for them stabilized. This should have the effect of reestablishing a better market for all our domestic securities and of preparing the way for a market for foreign investments. It would seem that with the large international balances likely to continue in our favor we should have a large surplus of capital available for investment in the securities of our debtor countries. In the interest of our foreign trade it will be necessary that such investments should be made, otherwise the means of settling balances due us by foreign countries will not be available to them. T O P IC N O . 2.— Maintenance of Exports. (a) Intensity and duration of foreign demand. Recommendation : Undoubtedly the undeveloped portions of the world, such as South America, and the East, will continue to need our goods, especially our raw products and certain kinds of machinery. It is not likely, however, that many of the European countries will continue indefinitely to require our manufactured goods in large quantity. It is probably not even desirable that we should seek to control European markets indefinitely, otherwise our Allies, if prevented to any great extent from selling goods in their own territory might find it impossible to readjust their own finances. M oreover leaving out of account all question of wages and the like it is very doubtful if w e could compete with the European countries in many lines of manufactured goods on an even basis in view of the cost of their transportation. T h e sale of agricultural implements will doubtless continue to Russia and similar countries when reliable governments are again established in them. (b ) Best method of financing exports. Recommendation: The best method of financing exports is for the foreign purchaser to arrange through his bank open dollar credits with Am erican institutions. In some countries such as Finland it is impossible to obtain dollar credits and it is still necessary to arbitrage through London. T h e burden and exchange risk in such transactions should be thrown upon the purchaser who in making his estimates must take into account the fluctuations that may take place in the relation of value of his currency to Sterling and the relation of the value of Sterling to the Dollar. H e is in a better position to do this, however, than the Am erican exporter. (c ) W hat would constitute satisfactory security for foreign credits ? Recommendation: In countries whose financial condition has not been too seriously inflated or otherwise impaired their government, municipal, or public utility obligations deposited in this country would constitute satisfactory security for foreign credits. In the case of undeveloped countries such as some of the South American states it may be necessary for the country to mortgage its customs revenues or in some such way to secure the payment of its debts. This may be the only way in which such countries can get the credit they require and without which they would find it difficult to make progress. The obligations of the foreign corporations, firms, or individuals, who pur chase our raw materials or manufactured goods, endorsed or guaranteed by their banks or bankers and (or) by their governments, would probably in some cases form the best obtainable security. T O P IC N O . 3 — Investment Trusts. Recommendation: This seems to be a very feasible method of floating foreign bonds in this country. It has already been adopted by the organization in N ew York of the Foreign Bond and Share Corporation, with an authorized capital of $10,000,000, the initial payment of which is being made today, and will doubtless be followed by other similar concerns as the necessity for them arises. T h e people of this country have not heretofore invested in foreign securities to any great extent and in order to accustom them to do so it will undoubtedly be necessary to have the foreign securities thoroughly investigated and held by corporations organized for that purpose in this country, which, in turn will issue their own stock, bonds or debentures, based upon the foreign investments they make. T O P IC N O . 4 . — Foreign Exchange situation. (a) T o what extent does depreciation tend to reduce buying power abroad ? (b) Adjustment of trade to new basis of supply and demand on altered level of quotations. Recommendation: It would seem that the depreciation of the currency in any given foreign country will tend to reduce the purchasing power of that country by practically the amount of such existing depreciation on the aggregate amount it has to spend in other countries. If, for illustration, Great Britain has a certain amount of money wherewith to buy goods in this country and if Sterling has depreciated, say, 10 °/o, in relation to the Dollar, it is obvious Great Britain will be able by just that much less to purchase goods in this country. If however, the Sterling has depreciated 10 °Jo in relation to our dollar and only, say, 5 % in its relation to the Argentine peso, then likely such raw materials as can be had from either country would be bought in the Argentine rather than here. This however, does not change the fundumental fact that in every instance the depreciation will affect the purchasing power of Sterling by just the amount of its depreciation in relation to the currency of other countries. If the depreciation of Sterling becomes very great it may in time prevent Great Britain or other countries from purchas ing anything in this country except such raw materials as cannot be obtained elsewhere in sufficient quantity and which are essential for the maintenance of industry or life. It is therefore to our interest to see to it, that the depreciation of the currency of any country with which we have trade or financial relations does not become so heavy as to hamper the proper development of such relations. Depreciation of international exchange is a deterrent to actual purchasing and will reduce the total amount of a country’ s purchases considerably below its purchas ing power. T O P IC N O 5.— W a r Finance Corporation. H ow can it best co-operate with commercial banks in extending credit based on export transactions ? Recommendation: By independently financing the longer time credits based on export transactions. TOPIC NO. 6. — Use of acceptances. (a) Can trade acceptances payable at a member bank be remitted for upon collection without charge ? Recommendation: In our opinion trade acceptances, provided they are payable at banks which are members of the Federal Reserve Bank clearing system, like checks. should be treated W e understand that at least some of the Federal Reserve Banks are now treating them on the same basis as checks, but in some cases they meet with charges made by the collecting banks, which they of course in turn charge to the depositing bank. A uniform method in regard to the collection of such items would be desirable. (b ) Domestic A cceptances— Definition of the words “ Readily marketable staples” which appear in that paragraph of Section A c t reading as follow s: I 3 of the “ O r which are secured at the time of acceptance by a warehouse receipt or other such document con veying or securing title covering readily marketable staples.” Recommendation: “ Readily marketable staples” should be construed to mean all raw products, such as cotton, grain and other foodstuffs, ores and common chemicals enjoying a broad market, thoroughly standardized and fairly non-perishable. There may be some lines of manufactured goods sufficiently standardized as to methods of production, styles, uses, customs and other factors and for which there exists a broad enough market to warrant their inclusion in a list of “ readily marketable staples” and it would be desirable if the Federal Reserve Board after full investi gation, were to issue a list of staples which it considers readily marketable at all times and under all conditions. T O P IC N O . 7 — Limitation of total volume of outstanding acceptances of foreign banking corporations organized under the provisions of Section 25 of the Federal Reserve A ct to a specified multiple of the foreign banking corpora tion’s capital. (Note) The practice of the Board has been to authorize new foreign banking corporations to accept up to six times their capital stock, but as this limit has been reached the proportion has been increased so that in one instance, at least, a foreign banking corporation, was authorized to accept up to twelve times its capital stock. A recommendation as to a final limitation is requested. -10— Recommendation : W e doubt if a specific multiple of the capital of a foreign banking corpora tion operating under the Federal Reserve A ct forms the proper limitation of the total volume of its outstanding acceptances. It is self-evident that a much larger acceptance business may be safely done where the acceptances are satisfactorily secured by a great diversity of merchandise shipped to many different firms in different parts of the world, than where such acceptances are secured by relatively large shipments of one line of merchandise to a comparatively few consignees in more or less the same part of the world. The strength of the acceptance business lies in the wide distribution and the diversity of the merchandise against which acceptances are made, the staple quality of the merchandise drawn against and the strength of the shippers and consignees. W e are therefore inclined to advise that the Federal Reserve Board should not lay down very specific rules, but should leave the foreign banking corporations some latitude in doing this business, always making careful investigation as to the nature and quality of the business done and the risks assumed by such corporations in granting too large individual lines of credit against any single kind of merchandise. A D D I T I O N A L T O P IC S SU GGESTED BY G O V E R N O R H A R D IN G . T O P IC N O . 8 — W hat should be done when a Federal Reserve Bank’ s reserve is practically exhausted or is maintained by borrowing from other Federal Reserve Banks? Recommendation: W here any Federal Reserve Bank is in an overloaned condition resulting in a too prolonged deficiency in reserve, the corrective measure to be applied in our opinion would be an increase in the rate on loans whether secured by government securities or otherwise, T O P IC N O . 9 — Amendment to Federal Reserve A ct to provide for increasing the Boards of Directors of Federal Reserve Banks to eleven members, four of whom should be Class C directors appointed by the Federal Reserve Board, and the Governors to be elected by the Boards to be also ex-officio members of the Boards. Recommendation: The Council approves of the suggestion of Governor Harding that the Boards of Directors of the Federal Reserve Banks should be increased to eleven members, four of whom should be Class C directors appointed by the Federal Reserve Board, and that the Governors elected by the Boards of Directors should also be ex-officio directors. -1 1 — TOPIC NO. 10.— Embargo on Gold exports. Recommendation: In the opinion of the Council the time has arrived when the embargo on the export of gold can safely be lifted. T O P IC S S U G G E S T E D B Y M E M B E R S O F T H E C O U N C IL (M r. Mills) T O P IC N O . 1 1— H ave 5 °jo redemption fund transfered to Federal Reserve Bank of district so national bank notes may be redeemed without sending them to Washington. Recommendation: In view of the fact that the gold formerly carried by the National banks in their vaults is now concentrated in the Federal Reserve banks, w e would suggest for the consideration of the Federal Reserve Board whether it would not be logical and at the same time improve the service to member banks if the 5 °Jo redemption fund were transferred to the Federal Reserve banks and have them redeem national bank notes without sending them to Washington. T O P IC N O . 12 — Have Federal Reserve banks supply silver and fractional coin to member banks without cost. Recommendation: T h e Council recommends to the Federal Reserve Board that they should consider the advisability of having Federal Reserve banks, as an additional service to member banks, supply them with silver and fractional coin without cost. T O P IC N O . 13— It is desirable in each Federal Reserve District to appoint an Alternate or proxy who may represent the District member at meetings of the Federal Advisory Council ? Recommendation: T he Council refers this matter to the Federal Reserve Board with the request that they submit it for the opinion of their legal counsel and report his finding as to the legality of such procedure to the President of this council before its next statutory meeting. The following members of the Federal Advisory Council were present at this meeting: James B. Forgan, President. L. L. Rue, Vice-President. D. G . Wing, A . B. Hepburn, W . S. R ow e, J. G . Brown, C. A . Lyerly, E. F. Swinney, E. P. Wilmot, A . L. Mills and Merritt H . Grim, Secretary. -1 2 — JOINT S«ii3lON OF THS FSD&HAL RBS1SRYB BOARD AND TdS FSDERAL ADVIBuRY COUNCIL iiay 13, 1319, A joint sesaion with the Federal Reserve Board was held in the Fedsral Reserve Beard room at fiv e th irty P H. present, the following members of the Board: Governor Harding, A C killer, J S ./i l l i a a s , and J A Sroderick, secretary, Present: ilea re . J mas S. Forman, President, L L Rue, Vice-President 3 0 ^ing, A B Hepburn, ti S ’iowe, J BBrown, C A Lyerly, £ F Bwinney, & P Jiliaot, A L M ills , and * r r it t 4* Brim, secretary* Absent! jiesiirs, F Q Vatts and G T J if fray. Governor Harding called the naeting to order and asked for the Council’ s report, which Ivlr, James B, Forman then read to the meeting. The topice were then discussed to some extent in a general vty.as wall as other matters re la tin g to the Federal Res rve system. C on troller /illiam n suggested that members of the Council report c nditions as to noueing f a c i l i t i e s , includ-ng stores, e t c ., in the various federal Heserve d i s t r i c t s . A ll present indicated a shortage of houses of ail sinds especially in the large c itio a At 6:45 P M ths meeting adjourned. ■ •. .« Secretary,