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Minutes of the Financial Stability Oversight Council
May 30, 2019
PRESENT:
Steven T. Mnuchin, Secretary of the Treasury and Chairperson of the Financial Stability
Oversight Council (Council)
Jerome H. Powell, Chairman, Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System (Federal
Reserve)
Jelena McWilliams, Chairman, Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) (by telephone)
Jay Clayton, Chairman, Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC)
J. Christopher Giancarlo, Chairman, Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC)
Kathleen Kraninger, Director, Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB)
Mark Calabria, Director, Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA)
Joseph Otting, Comptroller of the Currency, Office of the Comptroller of the Currency (OCC)
(by telephone)
Rodney Hood, Chairman, National Credit Union Administration (NCUA)
Thomas E. Workman, Independent Member with Insurance Expertise
Steven Seitz, Director, Federal Insurance Office (FIO), Department of the Treasury (non-voting
member)
Charles G. Cooper, Commissioner, Texas Department of Banking (non-voting member) (by
telephone)
Eric Cioppa, Superintendent, Maine Bureau of Insurance (non-voting member)
Melanie Lubin, Securities Commissioner, Maryland Office of the Attorney General, Securities
Division (non-voting member)
GUESTS:
Department of the Treasury (Treasury)
Brent McIntosh, General Counsel
Heath Tarbert, Acting Under Secretary for International Affairs
Craig Phillips, Counselor to the Secretary
Bimal Patel, Deputy Assistant Secretary for the Council
Eric Froman, Principal Deputy Assistant General Counsel (Banking and Finance) and Executive
Director of the Council
Howard Adler, Senior Advisor, Office of Domestic Finance
Stephen Ledbetter, Director of Policy, Office of the Financial Stability Oversight Council
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
Randal Quarles, Vice Chairman for Supervision
Andreas Lehnert, Director, Division of Financial Stability
Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation
Travis Hill, Senior Advisor to the Chairman

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Securities and Exchange Commission
Jeffrey Dinwoodie, Senior Counsel and Policy Advisor for Market and Activities-Based Risk
Commodity Futures Trading Commission
Michael Gill, Chief of Staff
Consumer Financial Protection Bureau
Hallee Morgan, Attorney-Advisor
Federal Housing Finance Agency
Sandra Thompson, Deputy Director, Division of Housing Mission and Goals
Comptroller of the Currency
Robert Phelps, Deputy Comptroller for Supervision Risk Management
National Credit Union Administration
Andrew Leventis, Chief Economist
Office of the Independent Member with Insurance Expertise
Charles Klingman, Senior Policy Advisor
Office of Financial Research (OFR)
Kipp Kranbuhl, Acting Assistant Secretary for Financial Institutions, Treasury
Stacey Schreft, Deputy Director for Research and Analysis
Federal Insurance Office
Kevin Meehan, Senior Insurance Regulatory Policy Analyst
Texas Department of Banking
James Cooper, Senior Vice President for Policy, Conference of State Bank Supervisors
Maine Bureau of Insurance
Mark Sagat, Assistant Director, Financial Policy and Legislation, National Association of
Insurance Commissioners
Maryland Office of the Attorney General, Securities Division
Christopher Staley, Counsel, North American Securities Administrators Association
PRESENTERS:
Proposed Interpretive Guidance on Nonbank Financial Company Designations
• Bimal Patel, Deputy Assistant Secretary for the Council, Treasury
• Mark Schlegel, Attorney-Advisor, Treasury (available for questions)

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U.S. Nonfinancial Corporate Credit and Leveraged Lending
• Craig Phillips, Counselor to the Secretary, Treasury
• Richard Farber, Senior Advisor, Treasury (available for questions)
Equity Market Structure
• Brett Redfearn, Director, Division of Trading and Markets, SEC
• Richard Farber, Senior Advisor, Treasury (available for questions)
Executive Session
The Chairperson called the executive session of the meeting of the Council to order at
approximately 3:04 P.M.
The Chairperson began by welcoming Mark Calabria, the Director of the FHFA, and Rodney
Hood, the Chairman of the NCUA, to their first meeting as members of the Council. The
Chairperson thanked J. Christopher Giancarlo, Chairman of the CFTC, for his service. The
Chairperson also thanked Craig Phillips, Counselor to the Secretary at Treasury, for his work.
The Chairperson then outlined the meeting agenda, which had previously been distributed to the
members together with other materials. The agenda for the executive session of the meeting
included (1) a presentation on the Council’s proposed interpretive guidance on nonbank financial
company designations; (2) an update on U.S. nonfinancial corporate credit and leveraged
lending; (3) an update on equity market structure; and (4) a vote on the minutes of the Council’s
meeting on March 6, 2019.
1. Proposed Interpretive Guidance on Nonbank Financial Company Designations
The Chairperson then introduced the first agenda item, a presentation on the Council’s proposed
interpretive guidance on nonbank financial company designations, which the Council had
approved on March 6, 2019. The Chairperson turned to Bimal Patel, Deputy Assistant Secretary
for the Council at Treasury.
Mr. Patel stated that the public comment period for the proposed interpretive guidance had
closed on May 13. He noted that the Council had received 26 comment letters, and he described
the types of commenters, including industry advocacy groups, other advocacy organizations, and
financial companies. Mr. Patel stated that 20 of the commenters generally supported the
proposed interpretive guidance, including the proposal for the Council to prioritize its work to
identify and address potential risks to U.S. financial stability using an activities-based approach
(ABA) and the Council’s proposed analytical enhancements to the nonbank financial company
designation process. Mr. Patel noted that six commenters were generally opposed to the
proposal, arguing it would limit the Council’s tools for addressing risks to financial stability.
Mr. Patel then highlighted several issues that numerous comment letters had addressed. For
example, he described the comments regarding the Council’s proposed methodology and process
for assessing risks under the ABA; the proposed changes to the Council’s nonbank financial
company designation process and analysis. He noted that several commenters supported the
Council’s extensive engagement with existing primary regulatory agencies under the proposal.
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Mr. Patel also noted certain areas where commenters had requested further detail, including the
Council’s approach to voting on transitions in the ABA and designations processes and the
Council’s definitions of certain terms in the guidance. In addition, he described comments
supporting and opposed to the proposed designation “off-ramp” under the guidance. Mr. Patel
concluded by stating that staff supporting the Council would work together to review the
comment letters and consider potential changes to the guidance, with the goal of publishing final
interpretive guidance by the end of 2019.
2. U.S. Nonfinancial Corporate Credit and Leveraged Lending
The Chairperson then introduced the second agenda item, an update on U.S. nonfinancial
corporate credit and leveraged lending. He introduced Craig Phillips, Counselor to the Secretary
at Treasury, who described recent market developments and highlighted the ongoing
collaboration among financial regulators on this topic.
Mr. Phillips noted that the Council had discussed nonfinancial corporate credit and leveraged
lending at its previous meeting, on March 6, 2019, and that the President’s Working Group on
Financial Markets had subsequently discussed this topic. He described banks’ exposures to
leveraged lending, stating that the exposures were relatively limited and that there did not appear
to be significant concentrations. He noted, however, that outstanding leveraged loans are
relatively high compared to U.S. gross domestic product, and that further research was needed.
He stated that Treasury and other agencies would continue to work together to assess this issue.
He also highlighted the importance of assessing risks related to collateralized loan obligations
and funds with exposures to leveraged loans. Finally, he noted analytical challenges related to
data availability and definitional questions regarding leveraged loans.
3. Equity Market Structure
The Chairperson then introduced the third agenda item, a presentation on equity market
structure. He turned to Jay Clayton, Chairman of the SEC, and Brett Redfearn, Director of the
Division of Trading and Markets at the SEC, for the presentation.
Mr. Redfearn began by describing key characteristics of current equity markets. He noted
factors including extremely high transaction speeds; widespread use of varying algorithmic
trading strategies; market fragmentation and complexity; the ownership structure of exchanges;
competitive dynamics and pricing structures in various areas, including market access and
market data; and increasing market concentration in market making, trading, financing,
clearance, and custody. He then highlighted examples of extraordinary market volatility, and he
described measures the SEC and other regulators had put in place to address those types of
issues. In particular, he described the SEC’s Market Access Rule, which generally requires
broker-dealers to implement risk-management controls and supervisory procedures that control
the access they provide to markets, and Regulation Systems Compliance and Integrity, which
generally requires certain SEC-regulated markets and other market utilities to have certain
measures in place concerning their systems resiliency and security, provide certain notifications
to their members and to the SEC upon the occurrence of systems disruptions and other events,
and conduct systems testing, among other things. He also noted other measures the SEC had
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implemented, including certain restrictions on short sales in certain circumstances; a “limit up–
limit down” mechanism adopted by the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority (FINRA) and
the securities exchanges that prevents certain trades from occurring outside of specified price
bands; and market-wide circuit breakers that have been updated by FINRA and the securities
exchanges.
Mr. Redfearn then described the “maker-taker” exchange pricing model. He explained that in
this pricing model, exchanges offer rebates to providers of liquidity (“makers” of liquidity) in
order attract limit orders and compete for market share, and charge a transaction fee to market
participants who trade against resting orders (or “takers” of liquidity). He described several
concerns that have been raised related to maker-taker pricing, including whether the SEC’s
current regulation of exchange pricing models is effective; incentives that lead to potential
conflicts of interest; the possibility that rebates could contribute to excessive intermediation; and
the potential for increasing complexity and market fragmentation. Mr. Redfearn then described
the SEC’s transaction fee pilot rulemaking, which is intended to generate data to test the effects
of existing exchange pricing models. He stated that data from the pilot program would be used
to facilitate an empirical evaluation of existing exchange pricing models and whether they are
furthering statutory goals.
Mr. Redfearn then described issues relating to market data and market access. He noted that
currently, in U.S. equity markets, the provision of market access and market data is not uniform
and could be described broadly as a two-tiered system: proprietary data streams and access
services sold by exchanges that are fast, content-rich, and expensive; and public data feeds that
are slower and provide less-extensive data. He pointed out concerns that have been raised
related to the effectiveness and fairness of this structure, including asymmetric information and
access across different types of market participants, additional implicit trading costs for those
using inferior services, a potential lack of competition in the provision of these services, and
continued cost escalation, which could foster additional consolidation. He noted ways in which
data asymmetries can affect retail investors. Mr. Redfearn then stated that the SEC staff is
evaluating potential regulatory responses to these market data and access issues. He concluded
by noting that the United States has the largest, deepest, most vibrant equity markets in the
world, and that regulators must be vigilant, monitor their functioning, and identify ways to
improve them.
Members of the Council then asked questions and had a discussion, including regarding potential
risks arising from algorithmic trading and concentration; the rapid changes in equity market
structure over the last 20 years; the potential for market-making issues in the futures markets;
and the importance of ongoing collaboration among regulators on these issues.
4. Other Business
Before concluding the meeting, the Chairperson asked Director Calabria and Chairman Hood
about their priorities in their new positions. Director Calabria noted his focus on issues related to
housing finance reform, and Chairman Hood highlighted his attention to cybersecurity issues at
credit unions.

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5. Resolution Approving the Minutes of the Meeting Held on March 6, 2019
BE IT RESOLVED, by the Financial Stability Oversight Council (the “Council”), that the
minutes attached hereto of the meeting held on March 6, 2019 of the Council are hereby
approved.
The Chairperson asked for a motion to approve the resolution, which was made and seconded.
The Council approved the resolution by unanimous vote.
The Chairperson adjourned the meeting at approximately 3:34 P.M.

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