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CONFERENCE OF FEDERAL RESERVE GO E R N S

THIRD DAY_,

Saturday, March 22, 1919,
1 o ' c l o o k a.m.

The conference met, pursuant to adjournment, at
1o'clock a..m.
Governor S t r o n g :

At the c o n o l u s i o n of l a s t n i g h t ' s

session, a committee was appointed to report later upon
t o p i c No. 1,

Reserve Bank Insurance, but Mr. Kenzel c a l l s

my a t t e n t i o n to t h e f a c t t h a t we ho.ve done n o t h i n g on t h e

s u b j e c t of p e n s i o n p l a n s , which is

r e a l l y i n c l u d e d in

the g r e a t e r s u b j e c t of i n s u r a n c e .

Would 1 t be t h e w i s h

of the meeting to take some action on that subject, to
appoint a separate committee or to refer the matter to
the s ame commit tee?
Governor M@Dougal:

I would suggest that this body do

what we undertook to do t h r e e years ago, t h a t is formu-

late S)me workDble plan whereby a pension fund can be
established in behalf of the employees of the Federal
Reserve Banks*
Governor Strong: How would you go about it, Governor
MoDouge.l?


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Governor McDougal:

By

studying t h e pension plans

that are in existence, as you are doing, as I understand,
in New York. And by appointing a committee, and by securing the necessary permission and legislation, if
necessary, to enable us to carry it
Governor Strong:

out.

I gather from your remarks that

you suggest we first a s k the F e d e r a l Reserve Board if
they will be sympathetic with the idea of the reserve
banks establishing a pension plan?
Governor McDougal:

Yes.

Governor Strong: 1oot we appoint a committee to
function in case the Board expresses sympathy with the
plan-

Governor M c D o u g a l ;

Tho.t w o u l d be my i d e a .

Governor Strong: You offer that as a resolution,
Governor McDougal?

Governor McDougal: I do, yes.
The Cpairmant Is there any discussion?
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(There was no discussion, and t h e r e s o l u t i o n betng

duly seconded, was carried.)
The Chairman:

I w i l l a p p o i n t t h e s ame committee

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BRANCHES OF FEDERAL RESERVE BANKS.

The extent of s e r v i e rendered to member

a.

banks.

b. The value of such service to member banks
of the district in which the branch is

located.
Governor Strong:

In the opinion of the meeting,

the services rendered to member banks for the establishment of branches, in furnishing prompt s u p p l i e s of currency and collection f a c i l i t i e s , are of sufficient impar t a n c e

to justify the establishment of a system of branches,

even though the expense involved is considerable, and
frequently without regard to the earnings of the branches
f r o m discount o p e r a t i o n s .
Geographical conditions l a r g e l y determine the

extent of tho transit f a c i l i t i e s in each b r o n c h .

The

e x t e n t to which b r u n c h e s are p e r m i t t e d to g r u n t credits
to member banks must be gor e r n e d by l o c o l

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geographical,

and other c o n d i t i o n s , which vary so g r e a t l y in t h e diff e r e n t d i s t r i ts

t h a t no g e n e r a l f o r m u l a cnn be s t a t e a

to g o v e r n t h a t t y p e of b u s i n e s s .


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v a l u e of service rendered by
t h e b r a n c h to o t h e r F e d e r a l Reserve Banks.

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Governor Strong:

The e x t e n t r-ina

vt1. l u e of s e r v i c e

which may be r e n d e r e d by b r a n c h e s to o t h e r F e d e r a l
R e s e r v e Bunks is c o n f i n e d a l m o s t e n t i r e l y to t h e e f f e c t i n g of prompt collections and transfers, which w i l l be

developed w i t h experience.
d. Cost of operating branches.
Governor Strong:

In t h e opinion of the meeting,

t h e value of the branch should not be meaaured by its

earnings or by cost of operation, tut by the value and
e x t e n t of th s e r v i c e s which tt

is capnble of rendering

to the member banks, to the parent bunk, and to the other
reserve banks.
In the cases of branches established for the purpose of s u p p l y i n g currency a n d t r a n s i t f a c i l i t i e s , w i t h

discounts conducted in t h e head office, no earnings can
be shown, a n d t h e o n l y m e a s u r e of t h e value of t h e

b r a n c h would be t h e volume and v a l u e of t h e services
rendered.

Toa c o n s i d e r a b l e e x t e n t , the a c n e d c o s t

t h e b n . i n c h r e p r e s e n t s a r e d u c t i o n in t h e c o s t

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f.

Use of

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a g e n c i e s i n s t e a d of b r a n c h e s .

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Governor Wellborn:

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h a v e o n l y h a d e month's

e x p e r i e n c e w i t h an agency, b u t we

h:·iVe

g:re[ti:, hor;es t h a t

it w i l l f i l l t h e b i l l .
Governor S t r o n ;

It is the opinion of the confer-

ence that we have not sufficient e x p e r i e n c e ut this time
to e n a b l e us at this time to form a definite o p i n i o n
upon this

v e r y important question.

when we h a v e further

experience and have learned h a t the developments
agency st Savenah are from GJovernor

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b l y from other Governors, :tn Districts where agencies

have been estoblished, we will probably be in a position
to make recommendations.
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CONCENTIATION OF GOLT AT FEDEFAL RESERVE BANKS.

a..

Possibility of further increase in gold

holdings.

Governor 3trong:

Who.t is the estimated amount cf

g o l d in the bunks of the C l e v e l a n d d i s t r i c t , G r e r n o r

Fancher?
Governor ancher:

It ts very hard to form any esti-

mate of the holdings of the banks, but they are small.

We

have tarted an aggressive campaign in which we offered to
s t a n d a b r a s i o n e n d t h e s h i p p i n g c h a r g e s , And tha.t b r o u g h t

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by t h e banks t h a t d i d n o t want to s t a n d t h e a b r a s i o n .

We t h e n s e n t out a letter to a l l the member b m k s , and
t h a t b r o u g h t in qu i t e a s u b s t a n t i a l amount of g o l d and

gold oe:rtiflc&tes.

We f o l l o w e d that up in December

with a n o t h e r Jetter, r e f e r r i n g to the s t a t e m e n t s
of t h e member banks on f i l e w i t h t h e a.gent.

··Na went

t h r o u g h a n d made a l i s t of i n s t a n c e s h e 1 e t h e r e was

over 1,
member b a n k .

and we addressed a s p e c i a l l e t t e r to t h e

That brought in some gold.

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did t h a t

in F e b r u a r y , end we have b e e n r e c e i v i n g g o l d e v e r y d a y .
You have g o t to work: on c e r t a i n b a n k s .
Wu knew of a c e r t a i n bank in

our S t a .te t h a t h a d

$ 5 , i n g o l d c o i n in 1 t s v a u l t , and we h=ve b e e n
working a l o n g q u i e t l y to g e t t h a t , and me f i n a l l y p r i e d
it

loose.

I do not think there is h a r d l y an instance of a
s u b s t a n t i a l amount h e l d by a n y member- b a n k .

I t h i n k we

now have a l l t h e amounts i n .

With regard to the State banks, we are n o t so
w e l l i n f o r m e d , b e c a u s e we do n o t h a v e a c c e s s to t h e i r

statements. Our larger b ® k s bring in their gold right

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a l o n g as it
didly in

a c c u m u l a t e s , and t h e y have c o o p e r a t e d s p l e n -

that respect.

Governor Morss:

We

know from

the'

Comptroller's

r e p o r t how much the national banks havo, and we c r n
e s t i m a t e to some extent what the S t a t e Banks h a v e , but it
is n o t so e a s y to a r r i v e at

t h e amount h e l d by t h e s a v -

ings banks.
we e s t i m a t e t h a t t h e r e is orobo.bly in our d i s t r i c t

five million dollars.
could.

We have gotten it

in as best we

The b u l k of t h a t g o l d seems to be held by s a v i n g s

ban ks f o r c a s h r e s e r v e , or by S t a .te I n s t i t u t i o n s as r e s e r v e in l a r g e b i l l s , 1
requests f o r gold
just receive

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We hove o c c a s i o n a l

c e r t i f i c a t e s in t h o s e amounts*

We have

F e d e r a l R e s e r v e Notes of l a r g e denomino-

t i o n , and v-re a r e be p i n n i n g o.gr1in on t h e b a n k s , t e l l i n g
t h e m t h a t we have t h e s e l a r g e n o t e s , and ve want t h e m

to exchange their gold for them.
It h a s o n l y b e e n r e c e n t l y t h e t "e have ha

a suffi-

c i e n t s u p p l y of t h e l a r g e d e n o m i n a t i o n n o t e s to w a r r a n t

our s t a t i n g t h a t , unc we have not y e t r e c e i v e d n r e n o r t
on t h e r e s u l t •
Governor M i l l e r :

I h e r e a r e b e t w e e n t e n e n d twelve

million dollars in our district, and the banks are taking

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e h D v e rrritten p e r s o n a l l e t t e r s to

e v e r y b a n k and have gotten a g r e a t d e a l of gold f r o m them.
Governor " e l l b o r n :

I co not b e l i e v e I could make

an e s t i m a t e t h a t would be w o r t h a n y t h i n g at

91l.

We

have about two t h o u s a n d State banks in our district,
and I b e l i e v e t h e y h o l d u c o n s i c e r a b l e amount of g o l d .
We have b e e n u n a b l e to g e t t h e m i n t o t h e system, and e
have no

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y to a r r i v e at

t h e amount t h e y h o l d .

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have received gold from most of our r.i.ember banks, ano I
would s a y there is hardly over a m i l l i o n dollars in o l d

held by t h e member banks of our d i s t r i c t .
D e p u t y Governor P e p l e :

We have f o l l o w e d t h e

policy o u t l i n e d by Mr. F a n c h e r , e x c e p t t h a t me have o n l y
r e c e n t l y s t a r t e d a c a r e f u l i n v e s t i g a t i o n of t h e s t a t e -

ments of the member banks " i t h a
remaining gold.

view of coralling the

The manager of our B a l t i m o r e b r a n c h

r e p o r t e d sometime a g o that t h e r e wes some f o l d in

Maryland which he could get i n n s soon as our large bills
were available; that the g o l d wos h e l d by the banks b e c a u s e t h e r e mere no l a r g e b i l l s , e x c e p t g o l d certifi-

cates, a v a i l a b l e •

The large bills have just been de-

livered to us recently, and we think we will get in more
of t h a t g o l d .

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g e t a l l t h e g o l d we c a r , s n d t h e banks have c o o p e r o t e a

v e r y w e l l in s e n d 1 n c us t h e i r g o l d f o r Fec1eral r e s e r v e
notes.

I c o u l d n o t sy

j u s t hom much t h e r e is

in

t h e d i s t r i c t nom*
Governor Lynch:

••e have g o t t e n in p r a c t i c s l l y

a l l t h e mold t h a t c a n be o b t a i n e d u n t i l t h e Ler;'islatu:re
p l a c e s t h e C a l i f orn:tt:4 b a n k s upon t h e same bus l s , ns r e -

gards reserves, as the national banks.

A satisfactory

b i l l h a s b e e n i n t r o d u c e d , and I t h i n k we w i l l p a s s 1t

at t h e present session.
in a b o u t

If it o e s pass e should get

twelve m i l l i o n d o l l u r s .

able amount of g o l d b u r i e

There is a c o n s i d e r -

in the district in s a f e deposit

b o x e s ond o t h e r p l a c e s , e n d that " o l d " 1 1 l drift g r a d u a l l y

into the banks.
I t h i n k Lt Ls s a f e to s a y t h a t t h e F e d e r a l R e s e r v e
Bank m i l 1 h a v e s u b s t a n t i s l l y a l l of the m o l d in

the

district inside of the next ten years, or five years, poba.1:)ly.

The g o l d h a s d i s a p p e a r e d f r o m c i r c u l a t i o n .

as this buried g o l d comes out in a tr·ansa.otion

As s o o n

1t d:rifts

into the banks and comes in to the Federal Reserve Bank.
That :ts t r u e w i t h r e g a r d to t h e n a t i o n a l b a n k s , a n d w i l l
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Governor Biggs:

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After personal e f f o r t , I t h i n k

we h a v e s e c u r e d p r a c t i c a l l y a l l t h e g o l d in our d i s t r i c t .
Our banks have b e e n v e r y h e l p f u l s i n c e b e f o r e t h e ho11

days.

A great many of our banks paid their employees in

g o l d and t h e r e was an u n u s u a l r e q u e s t f o r it
of t h e h o l i d a y s .

in a d v a n c e

The b a n k e r s have p r a c t i c a l l y t a l k e d

t h e 1:r p e o p l e o u t . of t h a t , anc " h i l e t h e y w i t h d r e w s c e r -

tain amount of gold within a period of several weeks,
t w i c e as much 9lmost as we had b e f o r e came i n .

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we have a l l . t h e g o l d in our d i s t r i c t t h a t c a n be g o t t e n
i n , now'

h e r e is v e r y l i t t l e of 1 t b e i n g h o a r d e d .

Governor TuicDouga.1:

·,,:e have c o n d u c t e d o. continuous

campaign f o r two y e a r s or more, t h r o u g h c o r r e s p o n d e n c e
w i t h s o m e t h t n g l i k e f i v e t h o u s a n d banks of t h e d i s t r i c t ,
w i t h t h e r e s u l t t h o t me have t h e g o l d f l o w i n g s t e a d i l y i n t o
the bank.

ne have r e c e i v e d most of t h e g o l d t h a t is

the d i s t r i c t .

we a r e g e t t i n g it

in

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it in for the last five months, at the rate of about
$ 2 , 3 , a month.

The b k s a r e s e n d i n g it

in r e g u l a r -

l y , and we a r e r e c e i v i n g f r o m f i v e to f i f t e e n s h i p m e n t s
a d a y in sma.11 amounts.
g o l d now a v a i l a b l e .

It

I t h i n k t h e r e 1s v e r y l i t t l e
h a s b e e n coming in s i n c e t h e Armis-

t i c e was s i g n e d a l i t t l e more g e n e r o u s l y .

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r e s p o n d i n g to requests, and the gold is coming in satisfactorily.
Governor VanZandt:

"e have combed our d i s t r i c t

f a i r l y w e l l ; e x c e p t i o n a l l y w e l l , I mould s a y , owing to t h e

f a c t t h a t so much g o l d is n e e d e d f o r e x p o r t a t i o n to

Mexico that whenever any of the bo.nks need gold for this
e x p o r t b u s i n e s s we ha.ve to order· it

f r o m t h e sub-tressury.

I would estimate that there is not over to

and

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mil1ions of dollars in gold in the banks of the district

now.
Governor " o l d :

State bunks.

The banks in our d i s t r i c t a r e mostly

There are about 3 , s m a l l State banks as

a g a i n s t about 3 m e m b e r banks.

They have b e e n v e r y gen-

e r o u s in shipping in their gold for the past Jdnr or

more, but t h e s t r e n m h a s d r i e d up an

coming in less frequently, ond

t h e i r s h i p m e n t s Dre

in v e r y smell omounts.

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I l e f t 1 n s t r u o t 1 o n s last week to examine t h e n a t i o n a l
bank reports f o : r March 4 t h and where any member b n k
showed s h o l d i n g of $ 5 o r more, t h e y h o u l d be w r i t -

ten a letter urging them to,ship it 1n.

We have else

s e n t out c i r c u l a r l e t t e r s to t h e non-member S t a t e
banks.
I w o u l d n ' t a t t e m p t to s a y how may ho" much there is

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ls a v e r y s m a l l amount so f a r as

the holdings of the banks are concerned.

I i m a g i n e there

ls still some held in the stockings.
Governor S t r o n g :

The s i t u a t i o n in New York h a s

been covered as f u l l y as p o s s i b l e .

We know what g o l d

is there, both through na t i o n a l bank r e p a ts and through
the reports to the State Superintendent of Banking·
ly speaking, there is 4

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n the national banks,

sto. te banks end s a v i n g s bunks, the greater p1:crt of which
is

h e l d by New Yo:rk C1 ty member b a n k s .

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coming 1n regularly, in comparatively small quant1t1es.
We expect to get additional gold from the banks thnt hold
large denominution gold certificates in exchange for the
new large denomination Federal Reserve notes•

A fe of

t h e New York C i t y banks m a i n t a i n t h a t t h e y s h o u l d c a r r y a

po:rt1on of their reserve in gold 1n their own vaults, and
we probe.bly w i l l n o t be s b l e to c o n v i n c e t h e m t h a t t h e y

should not do t h a t b. Demand for o l d .
l.

In exchange for F e d e r a l reserve nd es
r e c e i v e d a.t F e d e r a l r e s e r v e ban k s .

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Governor Morss:

Almost no demsnd in exoho.nge f o r

F e d e r . 1 Reserve n o t e s ' D.nd a.bout 6w,

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t r i u . l purposes•

Governor . M i l l e r :

We have no demand.

Governor " e l l b o r n :

None.

Deputy Governor P e p l e :

P r u c t i o o . l l y none.

Governor Lynch:

A v e r y s m a l l demond.

Governor-Biggs:

None.

Governor McDougal:

Governor Van Z a n d t :

No mu t e r i o . 1 d emo.nd.

No demand in exchange for Fed-

e r a l D e s e r v e n o t e s , b u t a c o n s i d e r a b l e number of u p p l i c o . -

t i o n s f o r g o l d to e x p o r t i n t o Mexico.

Governor "old:
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P o s i t i v e l y no demand in exchange

f o r " e d e r e l R e s e r v e n o t e s , and a v e r y l i m i t e d demand on

the part of small monufactue:ris, which we ho.ve supplied
with our a b r a 1 d e d gold.
Go e r n o r S t r o n g :

New York.

We have a l e r g e demand f o r g o l d in

One :reason is t h e demand f o r l a r g e denomina-

tion gold certificates for bank reserves, where they want
to l o o k up t h e s e c e r t i 1 ' 1 c e t e s vri th out t h e n e c e s s i t y of
f r e q u e n t l y c o u n t i n g small b i l l s .

We h a v e a c•Jns t; erab le

and c o n s t a n t demand for the t r a d e s , . , · h i c h is a re.
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gold thot is exported under licenses of the Gold
Comm1 t t e e •

At

t h i s time I b e l i e v e our demo.nc f o r p-old

would run considennbly in excess of our receipts.
Governor t r o n g :

After the foregoing discuss ion

on t h e s u b j e c t of c o n c e n t r a t i o n of g o l a , t h e c o n f e r e n c e
mn.kes t h e f o l l o w i n g recommendations:

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That t h e F e d e r a l Reserve Bee.rd s e n d s p e c i f -

1c d i r e c t i o n s to each Reserve Bank, calling attention
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to the importance that no obstacle shall be o f f e r e d
at a n y r e s e r v e b a n k or 1 ts b r a n c h e s to t h e immediate

redemption of Federal Reserve notes in gold.
2.

That e a c h r e s e r v e b a n k be r e q u e s t e d to k e e p a

cn:reful r e c o r d of u 11 rece:1.pts of g o l d and t h e so u r o e s

from which t h e go1d comes, and

of a l l payments of g a l a

and t h e p u r p o s e s f o r which t h e payment is made, whether
for redemrtion, f o r manufacturing purposes, f o r export,

for reserves of banks, or otherwise; that this informat i o n be a s s e m b l e d in a. r e p o r t to be :render·ed monthly to
t h e Feder•e.1 R e s e r v e B<l1. rd ir1 .such f o r m t h a t t h e a.ct

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g o l d mwement through t h e reserve s y s t e m can be cslculated

and made a matter of record.
(Resolution regarding provisions of the new tax
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is to be inserted at this p l a c e • )
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Suggestions ss to improvement in present
facilities, so that reserve banks may render incrensed or better service to
member banks,

Governor St,rong:

'11he m e e t i n R r·ecog:nizea t h 9 t t h e

p r i n c t p u J . :.mpr-ovement in p r e s e n t f a . c 1 l i t 1 . e s vvill o,:mstnt

in e.n i n c r e s . s e in t h e number of banks r e m i t t i n g a t
p a r , ano tho.t a g g r e s s i v e s t e p s s h o u l d be t 8 k e n , a f t e r

the next 1berty Loan, with the object of outt!ng
a l 1 non-member banks on t h e par l i s t .
b.

D e s i r a b i l i t y of h a r m o n i z i n g p r e s e n t
1 n t e r · - d l s t r : t c t time s c h e d u l e s , at

least between Federal Reserve cities.
Governor S t r o n g :

A oommi t t e e of t r a n s i t s x p e r t s

1s now engaged in t h e s t u d y of time s c h e d u l e s , wt th t h e
o b j e c t , among o t h e r s , of ho.rmonizing p r e s e n t i n t e r - d i s -

trict tlme schedules.

they expect shortly to submit a

report.
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Reduction in flont carried by Reservo banks.

Governor S t r o n g :

The committee of t r a n s i t e x p e r t s

w i l l i n c l u d e in this r e p o r t v a r i o u s p r o p o s a l s f o r t h e

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reduction in the amount of float carried by Federal
R e s e r v e Banks, including revisions of intra-district

and inter-district schedules•
It is recommended that the iedero.1 Reserve
Boards secure from the freosury Department such rulings
a.swill reduce the float now arising by r e a s o n of immediate credit for the various checks received on dep it
in Federal Reserve Bunks as the Government's fiscal
agents.
d.

Recommendation of F e d e r s l Advisory c o u n c i l

that items be sent directly to City or
town in whioh they are payable-

Governor Strong+ It is urgently recommended to the
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t}Oe r u l Hes e r v e Bou rd t h a t no e x t e n s i o n of t h e p l a n

f o r direct sending of items be now underteken until the

number of par p o t n t s 1s , i n c r e a s e d und u n t : l1 t h e mechani-

co1 problems of the collection system are o r e fully
developed and the sy tem is working smoothly.
In s d d i t i o n to t h e recommendations above m e n t i o n e d ,

the attention of the B o g r a is

c s l l e d to the probability

of t h e r e n e w a l of an a g g r e s s i v e enmpaign, under t h e
l e a d e r s h i p of t h e s m a l l e r banks of t h e country, to

secure the r e s t o r a t i o n of exchange by amendment to the
Federal Beserve Act.

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o'clock

p.m. of t h e s me d n y ) .
AFTER FECESS

The c o n f e r e n c e r e a s s e m b l e d , pur·suant t.o r e c e s s ,

at 3 o'clock p:m.

Governor Strong:

The meeting will come to order,

e.n.d v:e w i l l take up t h e next t o p i c , which
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number 1 4 .

WIRE SERVICE.

a. Probability that entire cost "ill have to
be assumed by reserve banks a.fte:r tr.e
V i c t o r y Loan campaign has be-en completed.

b. Suggestions as to improvements in prosent service.
Governor McDougal;

I move t h a .t it

ts t h e s e n s e of

the meeting that we continue the o r a t i , n of the l e a s e d
wire service in the interest of thes ervice.
Governor Lynch:

I second t h a t .

(The motion b e i n g d u l y seconded, was c a r r i e d ) .
Governor- McDougal:

I have a memorandum h e r e which

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f i g u r e s showing t h e volume of t h i s s e r v i c e .
" T a k i n g December as an a v e r a g e , f i g u r e s c o m p i l e d

f r o m r e p o r t s r e c e i v e d f r o m F e d e r o l F e s e r v e Danks, and t h e

Federal Reserve Board, show:
" T o e . 1 number of messages t r a n s m i t t e d du:r1.ng t h e

month, 22,947; total number of words during month, 1,212,528.
Average number of words per message,53.
Toto 1 c o s t ( i n c l u d i n g e x t r o c o m p e n s a t i o n to o p e r a t o r s )

for month, $1,354,39.
Cost f o r month per me:Jse.ge,

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TotD.l c o s t J.f commercial w i r e s had b e e n u s e d , ( f i g u r ed

at Government r a t e )

$ : 1 . . , 8 . .5.

Cost per message 1f commercial wires had been used,
( f i g u r e d at

Government r a t e ) ,

65."

Under s u b - t o p i c ( b ) , suggesti_i:,ns as to improvements

in present service, Governor McDougal moved that a committ e e be a p p o i n t e d to cons 1.der t h e mat t e : r of 1nc:rea.s i n g

efficiency, and all other points in connection with the
o p e r a t i o n of the w i r e s .

(The motion, having been duly seconded, was carried).
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Governor S t r o n g :

I w i l l npno:tnt Governor j\tcDouga.1

and Governor ii'ancher on the t comm.1ttee.
Mr• K e n z e I - s u g g e s t s t h a t t h i s c o m m i t t e e aJ.so be c a l l e d

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of codes, and it was so ordered.
15.

PENALTIES FOh DEF IC IENCIES IN MEMDEF BANK

RESERVEC.

Desi:ra.bi1:!.ty of adoption of uniform method
of determining deficiencies 1.n Reserves, and
asseasing p a n a l t i e s .
Governor McDougal: I offer a motion thr,t the practice be made uniform by assessing on the basis of a twoweekly p e r i o d •

(The motion, having been seconded, was lost).

Governor F a n c h e r :

I move t h e t we have a uniform

method of c a l c u l a t i n g reserves.
(The motion, having been duly scconded,w
Governor S t r o n g :
a d o p t e d , it

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carried)u

A f t o r t h e s b w e r e s o l u t i o n was

was found t h a t t h e p r a c t 1 o e s , which v a r y in

t h e d i f f e r e n t Feder-al Reserve Dis t r i o t s , cannot be chs.nged
by agreement among t h e Gove:rnors, and if

un1fo:rm1.ty ts to

be obti ned in the method of calculating deficiencies
:tn r e s e r v e s , 1 t vd.11 be n e c e s s a r y to have it

a d o p t e d by

r e s o l u t i o n of t h e e d e r a l Reserve Board, t h e a l t e r n o t i v e b e i n g t h e continua.nee of' methods which a r e n o t u n i -

f o r m in t h e d i f f e r e n t d i s t r i c t s :

The d± c u s s i o n d e v e l -

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reserve requirements in some districts, and it is suggested that any rule which may be developed for uniform method
of calculating deficiencies, provide an exception in the
c a s e of these institutions so that they may be more severe-

ly dealt with•
16.

FOFM OF APPLICATION FOR EMPLOYMENT AT FEDERAL
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RESERVE BANKS.
Governor Strong:

It is respectfully suggested

that the Federal Reserve Board consider whether a ruling
should not be issued as to the form of blanks used by
a p p l i c a n t s for· p o s i t i o n s w i t h F e d e r a l r e s e r v e b a n k s ,

which would eliminate the possibility of criticism
arising on account of some c;tscr:tm:tnu tlon in matters
of race or religion.

It is also suggested that it may

be advisable, in the interest of the system, that employees d Federal Reserve banks should only be citizens
of the United States, or th@ e who have declared their
intention of becomtng citizens.
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BANK

NOTES.

Suggestion of Federal Advisory Council that
reserve banks receive national bank notes on
deposit, and pay out in place of them clean
Federal Reserve notes.

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Gover!:or G t r o n a :

The m e e t i n g urn n:i

p r o v e o of t h e s r r e s t i o n of t h

1 1 1 o u s

MIPltltE§!FJUfflattt!P

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Federvl Advisory Council.

1 8 . OFFICEFS OF FEDERAL RESEEVE EI-\NKS ACTING ON
COM"!'UTTEES OF Bi\NKING ASSOC I.<\TIONG.

Governor S t r o n g :

It

is

t h e unanimous v i e w of t h e m e e t -

i n g that t h e recommendption of t h e Governors made in 1 9 1 7 ,
t h a t o f f i c e r s of h e s e r v e bnnks s h o u l d n o t s e r v e on c o m m i t t e e s
of b a n k i n g a s s o c i a t i o n s , be f o l l o w e d o u t .
19.

DIRECTOM3 Al'ID OFFICEhS OF F . R . PA1\JKS - MENTION
O;J'

CCNNECTION WITH FED"ERAL RESERVE BANK IN

DEALHJG WITH PRIVATE ENTERPRISES IN WHICH THEY

MAY BE INTERESTED
Governor S t r o n g :

I r i s s u b j e c t v i s d i s c u s s e d nnd v i e s

were e x p r e s s e d " h i c h t h e c o n f e r e n c e

f e r s s h o u l d be

s ta t e d v e r h n l l y to t h e Governor of t h e F e d e r a 1 . : : ' s e r v e
ry

t h e Chn.irr:.an of t h i s m e e t i n g •

t

is

t h e u n d e r s t a n d i n g of t h e c o n f e r e n c e t h o t

t h e F " d e r a l K e s e r v e Board hns t a k e n c o g n i z a n c e of t h e
p o s s i r 1 . l i t y of

1111:'arssrr,.ent,: n r i t . i n a - 1.n t h i s "l'l"lf'lttBr,

and the conferences expresses its hEnrt encor.sement ct
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ADDITIONAL PAR POINTS,

PAR POINTS---CAMR IGN FOF

Gov e r n o r S t r o n g :

This s u b j e c t h a s b e e n co, e r e d

in the :recommendation submitted to the Board on topic

21.

CHECKS AVAILABLE BUT NOT PAYABIE AT A FEDERAL
FESEFVE BANK.

S u g g e s t i o n that clearing houses put on d i s c r e t i o n a r y l i s t s checks marked "The omount of t h i s
check is i m m e d i a t e l y a v a i l a b l e w i t h o u t deduction, upon p r e s o n t a t i o n at the Feaeral Re-

serve Bank of
Gr e r n o r S t r o n g :

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m e e t i n g recommends t h a .t t h e
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p r a c t i c e d e s c r i b e o under th1.s h e a d i n g s h o u l d , if

possi-

b l e , be c h e c k e d and u l t i m a t e l y e l i m i n a t e d .

22.

JGGESTED AMENDMENT TO SECTION 5 2 2 OF

REVISED STATUTES.
S u g g e s t i o n by F e d e r a l Adv1so:ry Council
removing limit of bills that a b a n k
might n e g o t i a t e by endorsement.
Governor Wold:

I move t h a t we concur in t h e

recommendation of t h e Federal Advisory Counc1.1 upon this

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(The ' m o t i o n , having been d u l y seconded, was c a r r i e d ) .
The Chairman:

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t h e c o n f e r e n c e by G o v e r n o r s .
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FAILURE TO B T A I N DUPLICATE CHECKS TO REPLACE
CHECKS DEPOSITED BY THE COLLECTOR OF INTERNAL

REVENUE, AND LOSS IN THE MAILS.

Governor S t r o n g :

The

conference unanimously recom-

mends to t h e F e d e r a l Reserve B o a r d , tho.t t h e Board s e n d

a c i r c u l a r letter to all F e d e r a l r e s e r v e banks r e q u e s t ing a r e p o r t as to the e x t e n t of t h e difficulties and of
possible losses which they have e n c o u n t e r e d by r i n s o n
of l o s s e s :tn t h e m a i l s of checks d e p o s i t e d by i n t e r n a l
revenue c o l l e c t o r s , of # h i c h d u p l i c a t e s er, n n o t be
o b t a i n e d , by r e a s o n of t h e fa:Li_ur·e of t h e c o l l e c t o r s

Cf

i n t e r n a l r e v e n u e to k e e p a d e q u a t e r e c o r d s and d e s c r i p -

t i o n s of checks so d e p o s i t e d .

It

is

f u r t h e r recommended

t h a t upon r e c e i p t of t h e s e reports t h e F e d e r a l Reserve
Board u n d e r t a k e , in b e h a l f of t h e Feder-tJ1 Re s e r v o Banks,
to s e c u r e such r e l i e f in t h i s m a t t e r as t h e T r e a s u r y Dep a r t m e n t is a b l e to afford•
24.

PENALTIES F

DEFICIENCES IN RESERVE. (On

the program suggested by the Board-topic
No. 15).
Governor S t r o n g :

This t o p i c has already been die-

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Uniform t i t l e f o r bone d e p a r t m e n t s

1n

Federal Reserve Banks.
Governor Strong:
this

In the absence of Governor Miller,

topic was passed.
26.

Advisability of securing an amendment to the
postal laws, increasing the weight limit on
franked mnil mo.tter-

Governor S t r o n g :

In t h e ubsence of r::-ov'3rnor M i l l e r ,

this topic was passed.

27.

Our g e n e r a l campaign for additional par points,
and in connect!on with this, our campaign for
i n c r e a s i n g s t a t e b a n k membership.

Governor Strong:
c us s:ton under

28,

This toric is covered in the dis-

top1 c No• 1 3 . ,

How con excessive borrowing on the part of ind i v ! d u a l banks be b e s t r e g u l a t e d .

Governor Gtrong !

This topic has been d:tscussed under

t o p i c 5-B.
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29.

Exchane charged by Ne..rYork Bunks on Federal

Reserve exchange drafts.
Gov e r n o r S t r o n g :

It

is recommended t h a t F e d e r a l

Reserve Bank drafts be placed on the par lists of all
Fed e:ra 1 r e s e r v e banks.

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U n i f o r m f o r m of endorsement s t,.mps u s e d by
F e d e r a l R e s e r v e Banks

nd

t h e i r members a u -

t h o r i z e d to senc1. i t e m s d i r e c t ..
Governor S t r o n g :

It

is reco"n:nAnded thn.t. t h e s ub.ject

of unifor·m ondor8ement stam"t)s be r e f e r r e d to t h e s p e c i a l
cornm1ttee of, t r a n s i t e x p : : " t s f o r investit21.t1on·:tnc1 recommenda.t.i on.
31.

P r e s e n t method of recovering f o r p o s t a g e nnd
.tnsurnnce f o r s h i p m e n t s bt;;;reen F e c e r n l Re·s e r v e Ban k s •

Governor S t r o n g :

It 1s recom·nended t h a t t h i s q u e -

ti.on be r e f e r r e d to t h e n e x t m e e t i n g of .A.ud:t t o r s of

Federal Reserve B n k s .
32.

Real Estate and Bank Buildtng.

(Ge

Bonrd's

t o p i c No. 9 ) .
Governor S t r o n g :

This

s u b j e c t vs

d i s c u s s e d and

recommendations made ot t h e m e e t i n g of t h e G o v e r n a s

on

Thursday.
533. 2 ,

D uu t i e s of t h e F e d e r a l R e s e r v e A g e n t , n non pp r o

r

c o o r d :tna t i o n of h i s 1rork w i t h t h u t of t h e Governor.

Governor Strong:

above top 1c,
AftBr 1scuss1on of the u.

the conference requested the Chairmen to discuss this eubj e c t i n f o r m a l l y w i t h Gr.:,ve:rnor H a r d i n g .

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For-motion of Cr·edi t Department and t h e extent
to which the banks n.re j u s t i f i e d in g e t t i n g

first hnnd information regarding paper offered for reC!sc?unt.
Governor S t r o n g :

This t o p i c was d i s c u s s o d at

an

earlier s e e s i o n under heading No• 6, credit statement.
35.

C a l c u l a t i o n of i n t e r - e s t .

T r e a s u r y Department pays on a 6 5 a u y bnsls
while all the Federal Reserve Banks except
those of New York and Boston c a l c u l a t e intere s t a n d d i s c o u n t on a 6 d y b a s t s . Cannot
u n i f o r m i t y be o b t a i n e d in t h i s r o c s r d .

11-overnor S t r o n g :

It

ls

recommended t h a t

a is

counts

w i t h F e d e r a l r e s e r v e banks and b e t w e e n F e d e r a l r e s e r v e
b a n k s , be c a l c u l a t e d on t h e b u s is

of 365 d a y s a y e a r ,

b e g i n n i n g July 1st, next.
36.

Necess 1 ty f o r theba.nks mGi n t a 1 n 1 n e : a.n a g e n c y to
and v i t n e s t h e d e s t r u c t i o n of F e d o r e l
R e s e r v e Bonk n o t e .
count

Governor Strong:

It

is s u g g e s t s d t h a t the F e d e r a l

R e s e r v e Board a s c e r t a i n f r o m e a c h of t h e F e d e r ? l R e s e r v e
Banks t n e t o t e l oos t and t h e c o s t per t h o u s a n d af p r e s e n t

fo.c111t1es, und a probable early increase in this c o s t ,
for witnessing the destruction'of Federal Bank notes, at
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recommended by Mr· Emerson to Mr· B r o d e r i c k , be ex.a.mined
w i t h a v i e w of d e t e r m i n i n g whether t h a t , or some o t h e r
p l a n , c a n n o t be a c o p t e a , which w i l l r e l i e v e t h e bmnks
of t h i s e x p e n s e , or at

l e n s t reduce i t .

I havB o. l e t t e r f r o m t h e tJn:t t e d S t a t e s D e r t m e n t
of L a b o r , I n f o r m a t i o n and E d u c a t i o n a l S e r v i c e , a d d r e s s e d to S e c r e t a r y G l a s s , i n q u i r i n g whether t h i s
m e e t i n g p r o p o s e s to c o n s i d e r t h e q u e s t i o n of f i n a n c i a l
cep1.ta1 n o r m a l l y av£i.1lttble f e r . i n v e s t m e n t s in t e m p o r a r y
builc11.ng l o a n s and l o n g t e r m m o r t g a g e s , in c o n n e c t i n
w i t h the e f f o r t s of t h e Dopnrtment to s t i m u l a t e the building industry.
It

is

It

is a s i m p l e m a t t e r to answer t h i s l o t t e r .

e n t i r e l y w i t h o u t our P r o v i n c e .
Governor Lynch:

I move t h a t the l e t t e r be r e f e r r e d

to the Chairmen for s u i t o b l e reply.
( The m o t i o n , b e i n g d u l y s e c o n d e d , wus c a r r i e d ) .
Governor McDougal:

I would l i k e

to b r i n g up t h e

s u b j e c t or f o r w a r d i n g to Washington m u t i l a t e d F e d e r a l
reserve notes.

Unaer t h e pre·:rnnt p:r'.)ctloe, s u c h n o t e s

a r e f o r w a r d e d to Washington u n c a n c e l l e d , r e g i s t e r e d mat 1,
i n s u r e d , or e x p r e s s e d , a.nd t h e c o s t of s u c h s h i p m e n t

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Th1.s c o s t c o u l d be v e r y

Plo. ter·L.:1. l

l y r e d u c e a i.f

we c o u l d be p e r m i t t e d to ship m u t i l a t e d Federal Reserve
n o t e s of o t h e r Federo.1 R e s e r v e Banks to Washington 1n
t h e sa.me manner s

we do our omn*

D u r i n g 1918 a s a v i n g of $ 5 , 3 9 3 . 5 3 c o u l d have b e e n
made on Fede:ro.l R e s e r v e n o t e s s h i p p e d to Wash 1 n g t o n by us
f o r o t h e r F e d e r a l H e s e r v e Bon.ks, n.nd on our Federo.1
R e s e r v e net e s , s h i p p e d by them.

F r o m t h i s you oon s e e

tho.t t h e s a v i n g f o r t h e t " e l v e d i s t r i c t s v o u l d be w e l l
w o r t h wh.1l e .
Th;i.s :ts cm i n t e r e s t i n g m p t t e r and ought to be

considered•
The C h a i r m a n :

. h a t do you recommend?

Governor McDougal:

I mould recommend t h a t con-

s i d e r u t i o n be g i v e n to t h e s u b J e c t by t h e Boo.r-o.
(Informal d i s c u s s i o n followed).

Governor Dtrong:

It is suggested that the Federal

R e s e r v e Bon.rd g i v e c o n s i d e r a t i o n to t h e a d o p t i o n of
some p l a n by which F e d e r a l R e s e r v e Banks may be p e r m i t t e d to s h i p R e s e r v e n o t o s

o t h e r Feder@l R e s e r v e

Bunks, unfit for circulation, cancelled snd split, as
they do m1th thetr own notes.


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(Governor H a r d i n g e n t e r e d t h e c o n f e r e n c e room,

and after a little 1nformel·discuss1n the conference
ao journod, sub,ject to t h o c:.;11 of t h e Fede:rr,1 Reser•ve
Board).

NOTE:

The c o n c l u s i o n s o x " r e s s e

r e c o r d were d i c t a t e

hy

t h e C n i r m a n wnd approved by

c o n f e r e n c e in e a c h instonce.


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