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B U I L D I N G —
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i think the Cheirgan o f thie aceting should

aecompeny them to aake the explanstion.
We. Somyt T n e t i e whet i sean, t h a t the Chosiraan
Should aceompeny the reculer coamittee that has been adires~
Ging the Board.

ise Se. Pol’:

t t le mot

mitties, exeept that the cha

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S a r y i© have a nee cone
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s senterense should

i

be ihe spokesman.
The Cheireweam:

Y o u herve heard the action, genilesenm

ie there any discussion?

(There wee nO distuesion.

f h e motion was put

UpPOR & Jen aml say vote and carried.)
ioe Cheiraent

f r e comalttce i e thereupon potified t o

eall upen t h e Sererve Board a n d aileait t h e matter t o then.

(Thoreupen ths committees, conzisting o f “&.
trom (Cheairaan o f t h e Gonfeorence),

i . G e e a r “ells,

cewyer ami Ge, Mevoagal, left ihe hearing reom te call apon
the Pederal seseorpve Board.)

ee Heterd: I

move that Govermer Aiken take the —

hay smd thet wo centioue the se@ting.
(She m o t i o n ȴ c a r r i e d . }

(fherenpes the mreting went inte inforaal diseusgion, which discussion ihe stenographer wes directed not t o
report. )

(After t h e lapse o f e n hour t h e consitice returned t o
e

hearing room
end “x.
Cironghee resumed the Chair.)
h
t
The Chairmen: G u n i l e w m ,

w e have submitted t o the

Pederal Reserve Hoard a l l o f the matters that v e agreed


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ehnoala be aubmiited, ami they whli teke umicr aévisesent
ihe recesseminifion 1

r e p e r d t o mseahorahip i n ihe banking

evsecin tions #8 Subsitied further without clesussion t h e seacrandusa

in regard t o Circular Ne- L S eni regulationsiios. 2

to 6,

iatliusive.
He submitticd m e m e verbally t h e muibject. o f ihe

of checks o f fo@eoral reserve banks, the edjustment o f balamees, ond ihe definition o f the wor’ "pa".

W i t h o u t re-

Viewing the discussion, t h e result was a n invitetéon t o
this conference t o acet with the Federal Recerve beara i n

their beard room at G:50 o’ sleek tonigith, :
Govete exectly one hour t o the discussion o f the matter o f
hamiiing ¢hecscs o f fedural recerve banke and allied subjects-~- snd myinlag else.
i @xplained t h e t tiere were «

good sany unfinished

items o f business o n our program, e n d i f they P o n Sem t o

they could put « limit o n cur meeting tonight, but. ic give

usengugh tine te eller be «a fair expression of opinion by
ony governcr eho carmked t o spenk.om the subject; thet, w e
would t h e n like t o come back t o our room acd take u p our

| weguler program. T h a t seemed to amet their views, and 1t was
| agreed that inet wae the thing t o do.

i @Ell now ask Me. Aiken to mic a verbal report of
whet hes traemepired i n our abeenee?

Ur. Aliment

i n the ebsence of the commlites ve took up

the consideration o f Circular No. 7 7 eovering warrente, and
| it was saccest

t h a t w e inquire o f the Federal Reserve

Sead whether i m ithe sesoal paragraph o f paragraph @ sinict:


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funcde ohewlée net b e included.

S i n k i n g funds a r e n o t

enumerated i m the indebtedmesa i n finding net debt i m tne
manicipelity.

T t wee suggested that w o make inquiry i n re-

gare t o iheat.
ceetéen 3, i n regard t o the limitation e f 25 per cent,
was left epeu for dlecussios.
These were ihe only suggestions i n regerd t o Circuler

Proposed ¢ircuiar No. Te, e s t o regulations relative

+© state benke and trust sempuntioes cubseribing for stock of
fotderal reserve banks, eat teken u p
The thmec parcpraphs o m page 1 were epproved.
On page &, "Applieetions for Admission”, paragraph 4,
Seetion a, i t wae voted t o wake the foliewing wswndment, # 6
thet the parecraph cheuld reads
"under culhorizatton o f a n affirzstive vote o f shareholders representing «

uajority o f ite shares,

t o wake ap=-

| plication t o the Pederel Reserve Boerd, through the chairman
of the foderal reserve b a n k i n the cictrici,

t o subseribe

for o m amount o f ectoek i n such fegeral resorve b a n k equal

at par t o 6 per cent of ite sapitel and surpiue.*
feetion B wae emended t o read a n follews:
"> make @ etatoment o f iis condition o n a form prepered

by the federal Reserve Board, accompanied b y a certificate
of the majoriitg, t u t i n n o cage less t h e n five o f its

| @irectors thet in their opinion the assets wore sctually
worth at least the values a s which they a pear i n such state-|
mont.“
“6 bmi gotten t o the bottom of that page i n tho con
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o f that matter when your comalttee returned.

SO y o u sugs s t theelinination e f para-e

SiROR T h e a t was mot brought t o « vote.
Gheirmans

i n e m t h e comideretion

o f Clreulear 7 3

Mead concluded with n o actien o n paxacraph € Of section 4.
(Informal Ciscussion follewsd wiki

negrepher was directed not t o report.)
i. TOlLig: i

weve a n i recormeng t h a t i b e words after

tim word “exereisins” i n S e e t i o n £ of paragraph ¢ be stricken
that t h e l e n g u e g e f o l lowing t h e t i n s e c t i o n 3

omd that the worl “now” b e inserted juet before the

Ti Chairmant

I t is proposed, i n considering this

cirtuler, thet there ehall

b e « new p

a g r a p h imoerted later

whieh will previde for that regulation.
it i s weved ani
f

paragraph C, ection 4, following the word “exercising”
o

at

be stricken out.
(The m o t i o n wa. p u t o m « yea and m a y Vole a n d

carried.)
tne Chairman:

b G @ you now wish t o sentinuwe threusgh the

a

circular o r t O <cheues sow the pahtiing I n Of par xt icraphe i n
ister portion o f the o f ailer
i #ivguld c a y thet w o pat the n e w p a r a g r a p h
4h umier t h e general hendime “Generel Provisions."

o n page

4.
The Chairman:

< % will w o w b e i n order f o r coansel t a

cictate t o the stenographer the paragraph t o be in wePrTtod
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i. Curtiss

A t t h e o m o f the secoml paragraph o n

3 should b e inserted tne following:
“%wech state tenks o r trust companies sduitted t o sembership shall not b e permitted t o excreise functions other

than were boing excreised a t the time o f ite sdmission,
without. obtaining the prier approvel o f the Federal Seserve
Board.”
ap. S o n y i

move that ihe lemguage s o dictated b y

Secretary Gurtis b e embodied a g an amemiment a t the end of
the secon! poragraph o n page 3 of Scguletion Mo. 7%.
, “ a . Prenchers I
fhe Cosirman:

second that epiion.
i s there any debate?

There w a e m o debate.

T h e motion was put o n a

yea end fiay voto ani carried.)
The Chairewan:

T h e next q<sestion is “Exaninetions",

paragraph 5, page 2.
“pe. BeCord: I

meve i h

w e past “Exmuimations’,

paragraph 5, without eny further conusnt.Tre Chairman:

i t . ic moved emi secomied that paragraph

S, heaving t o do with ceauimations, v e accepted i n its present
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I s there eny further debate?

(There was n o debate.

f h e sotion was put o n a

yea and may vole ani carried.)
Me. iden: i

mow move that this conference adjourn.

(after @incussion the motion wa withdraw.)
a. Yold: I

move that we adjourn at six o'slock.

+ “ebougali: i

@ove ihat before sation i s taken o n

thet ootion w e get a n expression «cs t o hew far w w have —

and how for we have to go.

Tsie Chidrmans A

I umfiorstand
P

w e have covered

any Other open market. transactions.
purcnase o f mitionai b a n k ecceptsconpiancas
S i a t
o f banks other
a than national banks;
sy
e e e m e r
SAB AORS S A F

He

e

x e Facei «
E e c h e b l y

e

ee G E E & B O G «

* conmoragad

demand
nL o e motice and protest
e
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aleo make

PER as

fa

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a

t

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tostate bank seubersid) f h e r e i c aleo tho question fe
of digcount rates which w e bave slrceady diveupeed rather
wy discuss
2 Se
eF
a

the federal res@rve banke o n various
miter:

o f interest, which w e sorteinly ought t o develop a t

inia meting es one of the resulte of cur meting heres that
16 BOm0 reguler menus of keeping the other eleven benks in
Ya

*
procedure miintained i n any ome bank.

=

K e

started that by the interchance of cirmilars end this is a
subject that ve cen very well. afford te spend « few aoments
Oke
Tne L a s t

ie

t h mubicaet

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o f p o n d ing

wLih.

T h e -@ is also « revtoasendation that a ruling b e

modo by the federal Reserve Board s s t o vhat sonsiltutes a
time éoposit.

T h e r e i s alw t h e subject o f purchasing

actounting records, recommended b y the organization coeamitLoe.

a i m there j e the question o f whother v e should col-

lect notes for other federsl reserve banks; the qestion o f

the form of the nome; t h e relation of the sub+treasury and

the relation of the clearing hous« im connestion with collection charges, ami the question e f the payment o f bank
cxaminers selected b y the federal reserve agents for bank
oxemination.
The Ghairaan: i

would like t e make a general recom-

meondation, i f sescome cares t o put es motion t o that erfeet,
to @ brief tabuleted
fora b y topics, mumbered a n d Lettered, instead o f the fora
in which it. now appears i n Cireules Ss, 75, o n d that t h e

Governors goncrolly recoasemd t o the Pederel Heserve Beard
thet the regulations o f i e Board b e rexiueed t o thet forn
of headings and divisions e f toples covered p y ihe regula=tions, i n such a way @ @ that i t is mechenfeally simple t o
arrive o t e n understanding o f the reilations.
i@. Prancher: i
a. Wold:

uke @ motion t e thet effect.

f f seeorm! thet motion.

The Chairman:

* h e motion has b e o m made a n d seeonied,

i nave stated it.

i s there any diacussion?

(There was n o discussion.

T h e sotion was put

& yea oni nay vote, and carried.)
86 Chairmen: G o v e r n o r Wells, o f St+ Louis, oske that
the Seeretery read « communication which he had received

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f r o m the president e n d t h e coume<l o f a n important trust

company i n hic district, bearing upen the s u b ct of siate
bank snmaberahip.

T h e letior will b e reed, anm@, with the

epprevel o f the covernere vill. b e o r d e r e d : p a r t o f

the record o f the acting.
(The letter referred t o ie a z follows:)

"Henorauble Holia Yells, Governor,
Federal Reserve B a n k o f Saint 1

Pollowing o u r verbal inte reéheuge,

ive you & senorandum i n writing o f my views a s t o otete
benks e n d trust companies cntering t h e F e d e r a l Reserve A s -

sociation, i have t o say?
In section 9 of ithe A c t thore i s a n express provision
that State benks and trust companies may become member

banks. Senator Aldrich's bill, as originally presented,
aid n o t permit State banks a n d trust companics t e enter.

fhe argument wes made s o strong t o him, ond t o the 4onctary
Comission, t h a t h e ehanged h i s bili s o a s t o permit State

banks and trust companies t o c o m in. T h a t , o f course,
moant State banie emi trust companies a s t h e y wore-<<- or~
ganized under t h e laws o f the several States, necessarily

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provides e v e n that State beanie that m a y b e insorporsted

ia: m e y come inseotion 9 provides x

x = = x = "The Grgenization Con-

or ihe Pederal Reserve Seerd, uxier such rules and

regulations as it may proseribe, subject to the provisions

Pas section, a a y permit applying bunks", ete., t o become

Under t h i s , there ony
that t h e rales and r e

G

a

n make a n y anid

at tne discretion a m i ploasure
oF ithe Soarmd, and that “subjeet t e t h e previstions o f this
scetion” s o r e l y aeams thet t h e p ovieions e f the scetien

following have t o be part o f the rules a n d regulations; o r
Be “ h t WOR s o e m 1 O b e the preper cenctruetion,
that all the rules ond rogulations head toe be such es were
rectical i n their essential features, limited b y
visions o f this sactice

t h e rules a n d regulstions b e i n g

morely t h e incidentel things t h e t were nueecese ary t O a n order-

ly aman carrying out of the things euthorized.
28 Second? e

r

o f Section 9 provides that the

“eceral Seserve Bonrd s h a l l "“steablish by-laws f o r the goner=
eeting

al gocermacnt o f ite conduct i n m a k b e m upon applications made

state tanks” mud ete., a n d then says, “such by-laws
41 require applying benke, not organized under the federal
to couply
Reserve, atid.
Capital réqui«ments, a z

suvmit t o the examination and regula<
tions prescribed b y t h e federal Recerve Board” ,<<— ithe rest

of thet paragraph merely ccfining whet was meant b y capital
requircuent.

a

y construction o f the matter i s that, i n
cd

uenitoning these throe things t o be covered b y ithe by-laws,
Congress intomied that those three -cneral restrictions
Gheuld b e all thet epplied t o epplying state banks a n d trust
companies, s m i that ithe direct expression o f them excluded

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these mentioned i n ihe act, them the state banks ami trust
eompanice cannot, cafely corms Into this oystem—— becouse when
¥ er once in, there i c a o wey t o get cui, ané ihey might
be subjact t o rules, regulations anG restrictions o f o n
extreme ueture, o f which iney hed n o Emowlecdge when thoy
came in, a n c whieh rules, regulations a n d restrictions c o u l d

be changed a t the will o f the Sederel Segerve Hoard.
the amidenusl bank i s protected agelnet this easy change,
beesuse the Satioml m a k act i e all provided f e r b y Act
changed txeept b y amendment through

enoiher act of Congress.

iftim “ederal ecerve Hoard will construe the Federal
CSePvG A C G G B t h e theory thet Songress intended t h a t state

DAES cil truct companies, a g they exlel or may hereafter

exiet, unior thoir charter posers, as expressed im the yaerying lows o f the ceveral itates, can eome inte the Federal
LeSSIVG uyStem, subject only to the previtions o f this seetion (?)}, then the state banke ami trust csoupandes will
knee where they stend, ami thers will be, 1 ikink, n o eirri-

culty i n bowing a scerdial cooperation o m their part i n atteining the full fruition o f the Federal Reserve Act.
Ne damage thet t can coe could w e f r o m this construe- |
tion, begemse titre are cxprese repiriotions i n that section
aS {) rocerves ami e g itel, Limitation o n loans, prohibition
ageinst purch sing its oun stock, o r withdrawing o r impairing espitel, o r paying uncerned dividends, and then there
is ziven the full ami complete right d

exemination, the

Seme a f existe for a mtional bank. t h e r e f o r e , t h e Besorve

Soard, through its proper agencies, would be in position to

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State bank o r trust ogepany which desires edmis2icn L o the e c e r a i Headrve cyetem will b e required:
{u)} v a d e r sucLoerisation o f ite Lirecctora, 1 6 make apPlicotion t e the Pedepel Recerve Suard, through t h e
Chohimaan o f ine becerg] Keserwe G a n k I m the Listrict,

Lo Subscribe for e n emownt o f eteck i n euch Federel
Heeerve Bank equel a b par t e G2 o f its expital and
hurplua.

3} 2 0 make & Statemont o f ita soncition, o n a form
prepared b y the Federal Reecrve Coaml, accompanied

by & cortificate o f not Lees than

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f ite dGires-

tore thet i n their opinion t h e assests a r e actually
2 @t least t h e values « t which they appear i n such
Staten.

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t e furnish e certified copy of ite charter ani
any suenmdmente thoreto, together with a susuary there+
of, howling t h e powers whieh i t i s s o w oxcrceicing a n d

time powers which i t is not mow exercising.

EXAMINATION.
oe T h e Pederal Keserve Doom,

i n conjunetion «ith the

Federal Resérve Senk of the disirict, sither through the lecal
ote te Sanking Depertiaent, o r otherwise, w i l l cauge o n emuain-

ation t o be m d e o f the applying tank, after which the Federal
gecopve Board, with a etatement o f the opision of the Governor
ond t h e Fecucral Reserve Agent, u p o n the fmllowing points:


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“hethey 218 capitel and surplus cre unimpaired.
veether ite aanmnagement i s catjefraetory.
Concerning the ¢harectear o f ite depesits.

Conctrming ithe character of its loans and invest~-


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Nineteen
Poarteen.
ae, James B . iebougel,

Hew Ylliard cotel,
Wasrdn- toms b e C e

Dear 1 . Seomagels
am Sryant hes brought « setter t o ay attention Loday
whdeh I think ought t o b e discussed a t your meting, a n d

that i s the reserve thet such banks a s the Pullman Trust and

“eVings Dank will be required to cerry if they cowe inte the
Federal Reserve System.

the Pullen Trust ema Sevinge Deni, a s you know, hag n o
Geposits wade byether banks and does not act i n the sapasity

of a reserve agent for anybody. T h e r e are a large number
of the Suailer State Genke i n Chicago i n the same s f tuation,
a8 y o u ynoew better then i a.

The fullaas Beuk bee Geposits o f sbout jfagQ0O O05, o f
@WRLCh [2,800,400 are tavings deposits and ~1,6%O,250 gubject
‘te Sheek.

i f they were t e enter the federel Reserve cystem

hey would therefore b e required t e carry a n idle reserve
of
rbout 4 1 0 0G

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